UPDATED: March 27, 2011 10:14 pm
Barbados Government: “Shanique Myrie is lying. There was no body cavity search”
After three days of investigations, however, McClean told reporters:“There is absolutely no truth to a story carried in a Jamaican newspaper on Thursday, March 24, that a female citizen of that country was body-searched by Immigration officers on arrival at the Grantley Adams International Airport.”
In a prepared statement, she added: “Chief Immigration Officer Ms Erine Griffith has refuted this allegation made in the Jamaica Observer. She has confirmed that her department and Customs ‘have carried out extensive investigations and the claims were baseless’.”
From The Nation story: Finger Rape Claim Untrue
Shanique Myrie: “I am not lying. They are the ones who are lying”
“I am not lying. They humiliated me and searched me like I was an animal. They can carry me back to the Barbados airport and I can show you every room they took me into. I can identify the woman who defiled me. They are the ones who are lying,” she told the Sunday Observer.
Shanique Myrie in the Nation News: Jamaican Myrie plans to sue
UPDATED: March 25, 2011 3:57 am
Barbados Government says Shanique Myrie involved in Human Trafficking
“No record” of vaginal search.
The Barbados government issued a statement late last night about the Myrie incident. Does “no record” mean the vaginal search never happened or does it mean something else? We’ll be watching this story closely, but as we said before…
“Even if Ms. Myrie was suspected and then deported for good reason such as gang affiliation or crimes committed in Jamaica, she deserves to be treated with human dignity.”
That dignity is not only about ensuring that when necessary, cavity searches are performed by qualified personnel under as clean and dignified circumstances as possible, it’s also about a bare foam mattress with no bed linen, no shower etc.
Barbados scored badly in the latest Trafficking in Persons Report, so on one hand it is good to see the authorities paying attention to the problem. On the other hand, as the Trafficking in Persons Report states, one of the big problems with prosecuting the traffickers is that the first reaction by authorities is to immediately deport the witness, in this case Ms. Myrie.
It looks like our leaders need to read that Trafficking in Persons Report again because rather than charging the Bajan male trafficker mentioned by government, they sent the witness back so the trafficker will continue in business.
As the TIP Report says of Barbados:
“Law enforcement and immigration officials continued to summarily deport undocumented foreigners without determining whether they are trafficking victims, the government opened no investigations into possible cases of sex or labor trafficking, and it did not prosecute any trafficking cases during the year. Therefore, Barbados is placed on tier 2 Watch List.”
… from page 73 of the Trafficking in Persons Report 2010 (available at US Dept. of State link here)
Our original story…
Is our title really so provocative if it is the truth?
Jamaican Shanique Myrie (photo above) flew into Barbados on March 14, 2011. Upon arrival, she was strip-searched and then a female Barbados Immigration officer shoved her finger into her vagina twice while continuously spewing venom about Jamaicans, according to Ms. Myrie.
Immigration officials thoroughly examined her clothes and luggage and found nothing. Nonetheless she was denied entry, confined to a cell for the night and then summarily ejected onto a flight the next morning without time to brush her teeth or shower.
“Every time that a flight arrives from Jamaica, the nothing-to-declare line is automatically closed. We are treated like criminals by the authorities.”
Jamaican Jaydene Thomas, now an attorney in Barbados
Persons detained by Barbados Immigration deserve respect and dignity
We don’t know if Ms. Myrie is a convicted mass murderer, prostitute, Nazi party member and child pornographer who was coming to Barbados to destroy our country. What we do know is that she was not carrying a kilo of cocaine in her luggage, clothes or vagina.
We also know that she was placed in a cell with another woman being deported. The cell contained one raw foam mattress with no bed linens.
Even if Ms. Myrie was suspected and then deported for good reason such as gang affiliation or crimes committed in Jamaica, she deserves to be treated with human dignity.
After reading the Jamaica Observer, we don’t believe that Barbados Immigration authorities are in the right here. We believe that they acted improperly, but we’re willing to listen to the other side of the story.
What we need to hear from the Barbados Immigration leadership…
Bajans, Jamaicans and the world need to hear more details about why Ms. Myrie was chosen for special attention. Is it that she was a single Jamaican female traveling alone? Or is it something more.
If the standard is “single Jamaican females traveling alone must undergo a finger in the vagina to be admitted to Barbados”, then Jamaica and the world need to know.
If Ms. Myrie was given special attention for other reasons, the world needs to know that too.
Further Reading
Jamaica Observer: Finger-raped in Barbados
Barbados Free Press 
Why r u surprised! we all know their reputation, or r u blind to what’s going on in the world!!
I think if this is true, it is a terrible thing to do to anyone, guilty or otherwise; surely there are other means of verifying if a person carrying drugs or otherwise. I have read people go to great lengths to get illegal drugs, etc, into Barbados, but immigration behaving like this is so degrading to anyone. Come on Barbados this is the 21st century, and this is not good for our tourists image .
Oh please. BFP, you are getting more sensational than the Nation Newspaper. There was a point in time when your posts were rational, logical and not pandering to headline grabbing crap.
It is disappointing to see that you have conformed.
Lady Anon, BFP tell it like it is. That’s what happened. No drugs found. What was the reason for this brutality? Because she is from Jamaica!
Barbados Immigration owe an explanation to everyone, not only the woman.
If this is true as she describes it – it is disgraceful no matter where you are from or where you are going – it is a shame it happened in our island. The officer in question should loose her job and be made answerable to all human beings. If people are not publicly held accountable for their actions things will never get better.
man wiv no shame: “Why r u surprised! we all know their reputation, or r u blind to what’s going on in the world!!” Spoken like a true racist and bigot.
If you have one drop of African blood in your veins, man wiv no shame, you would see how you are perpetrating and supporting the same bigotry that whites held against all people of colour for centuries.
Are you seriously suggesting that ALL Jamaicans should be painted with the same brush? Are you suggesting that every man, woman and child in Jamaica have criminal or evil intentions?
If you are a person of colour, man wiv no shame, perhaps you need to go look in the mirror to remind yourself of that fact?
Excuse me for going off topic:
this is just a slight plight to Mr Victor Fernandes that consideration be made into the removal the lone gospel station in Barbados from the 97.5 frequency.
Barbados prides itself on being a relatively morally grounded state. This did not come solely by chance as some may believe. It has been the prays, and wisdom of those who went before us, who have positioned Barbados to be the envy of the region, and the world for that matter.
Can anyone of us really explain how a 4×4 country could be so prominent on the world stage without divine intervention.
We in Barbados can not boast of large deposits of oil, gold, bauxite, nor diamonds.
But most certainly we can boast of our people. Many of people have been bless of God, and we owe a tremendous lot to God.
Though we do not realize it the laws which govern our society are based almost solely on the teaching of the Christian faith. One only need to look at societies in the eastern sections of the world to see that those who follow other gods are always in turmoil and at war.
I therefore will plea with Mr. Fernandes to reconsider the removal of Gospel 97.5 station which is loved by both Christians, and non-Christian alike.
No longer will Barbadians be able to wake to the word, and music of God. No longer will our young children be able to call in on afternoons and express themselves in song, poetry, and general chat, as the door to their beloved station is being closed on them.
Are we in Barbados willing to forsake God? Do we believe that the society will be better for it? Do we believe that if we follow the almighty dollar and become rich we and those we love will be able to move freely in a deviant society?
Do we believe that in forgetting God and deviance propagates itself throughout our society that the tourist will come to these shores to be manhandled? Will offshore companies continue to come?
Mr.Fernandes, you believe in providing humanitarian service, encouraging high ethical standards in all vocations, and help build goodwill and peace in the world, as a Rotarian. Please do so through the good work your radio station Gospel 97.5 has been doing in changing and maintaining lives in Barbados.
I thank you Sir.
p.s:
To Christians and those who enjoy the programming on 97.5, please buy a fifty cent stamp and send a short note to Mr. Fernandes at Starcom urging him to maintain his good work.
Firstly, this is my first contribution here, however I feel compelled at this point and I am willing to take the lashes that may follow.
This type of behavior is unacceptable and inexcusable; anyone that condones this obviously has never thought that this could be their wife, mother or sister. These are not doctors or people with medical training, who gives them the right to probe anyone.
If there are major concerns about visitors from our neighboring islands or anywhere in the world and these measures are to be implemented, we as a proud tourist destinations, we must then put the correct personnel in place to conduct these very private searches.
Employ someone who is not only trained in the correct procedure but also someone who has compassion and understanding, someone that does not destroy the moral or dignity of an individual. Then, as in this case, the individual does not leave our shores feeling as though they have been degraded or humiliated.
I tend not to spend much time typing with my two sore fingers about foolishness but please “Anonymouse Not By Choice” brush that chip off your shoulder, though I am not I am referred to as white and I have never thought of any colour as being treated different. I am still yet to see how humiliating and degrading anyone could be acceptable. The foolishness stated by “The man wiv no name” is just that IGNORANCE don’t be offended by those with obviously little sense or none at all.
I felt physically sick reading this article. This hapless traumatised woman was raped and so far as I am aware rape is a criminal offence in Barbados. This whole episode needs a full and thorough investigation at the highest level. I have heard similar stories from fellow Jamaicans who have been physically and verbally abused. This kind of behaviour is utterly dispicable and the authorities should put a stop to it.Thanks to the action of a few Barbados is taking the headlines for all the wrong reasons.
Isn’t it time the world legalized Cannabis…I said CANNABIS (-not “drugs”)
and got all this sorta nonsense over and done with??
Just so others can know I have my letter to be posted to Mr. Fernandes, and should have it on his desk first thing next week. I will continue to urge others to do the same.
Please join me in getting these letters out to Mr. Fernandes. Persons have petitioned for the showing of the Black-Swan movie. Let us do the same for an even better cause.
Every letter mailed counts. Gospel 97.5 is too important to the Barbadian landscape. How are we going to receive proper programming when this station is amalgamated with VOB?
Is VOB going to cut Pastor Ferdinand Nicholls during the day. Is it going to cut Senator Reverend Dr. David Durrant with his program during the day? Is it going to cut all those ministers who are on the radio at night with so much listenership that when they entertain calls the phone lines are jammed even late at night at Starcom Gospel.
If advertisers really understood the power of 97.5 Gospel they would spend more of their hard earned advertising dollars at Gospel 97.5 where listenership is always high as it always carry wholesome programming for an audience which is unable easily listen to the many other radio stations.
Cuts to the gospel programming will be the order of the day. I therefore urge others to spend 50 cents for a stamp to help save not only Gospel 97.5, but to save the nation Barbados.
Was there a tip or evidence that they may be ‘drug mules’? Did drug dogs sniff them out or something? If the accounts are true that the officers uttered anti-Jamaican slogans then there could be some intent to shame them.
I would normally wait for the full report before rushing to judgement, but in Barbados any commissions take years, the evidence tends to be wishy-washy. And the findings are never published publicly in such a way that the majority of the population ingests the information.
Case in point: When the FBI came to Barbados what were the findings? When Her Majesty’s Glendairy prison burned down what were the findings of that commission? Ohh well, another day in the life of sun, sea, and sand.
I honestly do not believe this story. Other islands love to bash Barbados yet they do not stop coming here.
You do not have to believe THIS story, however when you continually hear stories like this then you must wonder… This same thing has happened to many others and have been reported. The Jamaican government does nothing.
LOL there are 3 sides to a story..hers, ours and the truth. I had hell at a Jamaican airport for NOTHING. Think I care? Nope!
Are you seriously suggesting that ALL Jamaicans should be painted with the same brush?
‘ANBC’, no, only 99% of them!
Here’s a much nicer Jamaican.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3490017/Night-Stalker-Britains-worst-sex-attacker.html
Thanks to Jamaicans, our reputation in Britain is *hit, and the ***tards don’t even have the decency to apologise or endeavour to mend their ways! Even Africans don’t want anything to do with us, largely because of them! Bajans would rather not see what’s going on and pretend it’s not happening. The Immigration authorities in Bim aren’t stupid!!
If the treatment of this Jamaican national was above board, then it should be very easy to give an account of the matter with regard to what transpired and why, without of course revealing any information that might compromise our security or affect/endanger information sources. It would seem that there was a belief that this woman was a drug mule. Whether there was actual information to support this, or it was simply that she was Jamaican is the question. It is disturbing to think that she may have been subjected to a cavity search without her permission, without her being charged for any alleged crime, and without there being any documentation that this was done. Hopefully this was not the case.
Shame on the our detractors in Barbados. I am a Jamaican broadcaster and was planning a broadcast from your country.
We have cancelled our trip and will be going to Cuba instead. We dont want to subject our female colegues to such abuse. I surely will not be coming in a hundred years. All Jamaicans are very very angry. Only an apology from your Government will change our impression from now on with Barbados..
This is a horrible story and if true, someone should lose their job over it, but, I find it odd that she claims to have been searched by an immigration officer, rather than a customs officer.
I just spoke to my wife about this and she said that she read somewhere (i think it was Barbados today) that the reason this happened is because the women lied about where she was staying and she was actually staying with a known drug dealer. If this is true then it should make you guys think a little harder before hitting that post button. Be nice to have the facts about this before you post such a sensational headline. Besides, isn’t “customs” responsible for searching people – not “immigration”?
I do not believe her story and I’m not even Bajan. Any self respecting woman would not have subjected herself to be stripped search and cavity searched if her entry to another country was purely innocent. She’s upset that after she did all of that she still wasn’t able to stay for her intented purpose which was to remain in B’dos illegally.
I am disappointed with the large number of Bajans that dont seem to like Jamaicans. Just two months ago i was told by a Jamaican here in Montego Bay where i live that he went t.o Barbados and the treatment was very unpleasant.
With our huge population (Approx. 3 million compare with Barbados Appropx. 290,000.) Just imagine just 10% of Jamaicans visiting Barbados, the boost it could give to the economy.
As a broadcaster here in Jamaica, i will have to do my part warning my fellow citizens about the danger and risks travelling to Barbados. I saw the lady on TV and i believe her story.
The Jamaica Observer that break the story would not put her story on its front page without through analyis, taking into consideration the high credibility of the publication that is owned by Sandals owner, the respected Gordon “Butch” Stewart.
It shows that this so call Caricom Intregation is a sham. Before we work together as one Caribbean, as soon as some problems arise, instead of fixing it, the hate and division took over.
We have no regret in cancelling an outside Broadcast that we were planning for our radio station for 5 days in Barbados, taking into consideration that there are females in our team. Moreover, as a male, i am mindful of some custom officer staring up my “you know what”.
Enough said.
To Micah, just because of this rare incident you will not be coming to Barbdos in a hundred years?!!!!??? Well let me tell you something, If there is any place in this world that people should try to avoid it is jamaica! Your country has some of the highest rates of crime in the region and its people are some of the most venemous and hurtful! But yet, many of you self righteous jamaicans would be extremely offended if people were to dare say that they would never travel there. Jamaica is the epitome of hate and distress, having some of the highest rates of murder and hate crimes( I.e. Crimes against gays) in the world! Tourists constantly complain about the lack of hospitality felt while vacationing in your island among your people. But yet you stil have the audacity to come on here and derail Barbados after reading a story of which you do not have all the details. Sounds to me that you are an extreme xenophob or just ignorant if this rare ghastly occurrence in a tropical paradise influences your prespective.
Minister Harry Husbands says there is no record of the search. Give me a break. Was he really expecting if it happened to be documented. Do the Police record their ways of getting confessions????
Simply disgusting if true. The government needs to issue a statement on this clarifying the procedure and policy. Folks we trying to be better than a third world country but this if true puts us back beyond third world. If the Government say nothing and do nothing that should tell you where we sit in the world. And all you people need to get the chip of your shoulder of which island or country your from…we all humans trying to all live a better life and leave a better place for the next generation after we go. If you hear nothing from our government then that will tell you a lot.
I’m not sure why all of you are forgetting the bigger issue here… the woman was allegedly finger-raped by one our immigration officials. It doesn’t matter to me if she was the victim or the perpetrator of whatever human-trafficking/drug-ring crime that denied her entry, the point is that she is entitled to basic human rights, including proper treatment at the hand of foreign officials until her innocence is proven/disproven (and even if she is a crook, there’s still no need to do anything more than interrogate and return home). I very much doubt any internal investigation will be carried out so we may never know the truth for sure.
In the meantime stop spewing the anti- nonsense and try to be more concerned with the violation of someone who only “appeared” to be guilty of something. Yes, you can point out that it happens in other countries, but that is no damned excuse to allow it to happen anyway. We’re supposed to better than that.
To prince of Barbados, It wasnt Micah that make the comment but me. You post “Tourists constantly complain about the lack of hospitality felt while vacationing in your island among your people”. Question: How come 1.6 million visit our Island every year.
Your comment “But yet you stil have the audacity to come on here and derail Barbados….” I have never visited your country. With such hate that you posted about Jamaicans, can you imagine you seeing me in your country?
Goodness! We must ask ourself, how did we get to this. Read your posting again and see who is demonstrating hate.
Wouldn’t be great if those cameras were installed? Then the reviewing investigator could show the evidence of what really took place.
The reasons for cameras are to keep both the travelling public AND the officials “honest”.
If there was video footage then it would be less likely that this lady would come out with a false story. The flip side would be that the alleged offending party would be charged, removed from their posts or retrained.
Put in the cameras in the immigration and customs areas!
THAT BEING SAID – VIDEO EVIDENCE IS NOT APPLICABLE IN A COURT OF LAW!
I am going to have a good soak in the sea now…
This whole expensive exercise of scrapping the sovereign passports and implementing this “CARICOM passport” was supposed to stop profiling. As you can see, big waste of money… Since the West Indies Federation broke up all these leaders want to keep revisiting this colonial plot of lumping up the Caribbean together… Its time to get over it… Do you think the nations of Asia say they can’t survive without one another? Do you think the tiny nation of Taiwan says they can’t exist without having a one-region court with Singapore? Do you think Thailand says we can’t compete in the world so we need a single market with Papua New Guinea? No, the go out pull up their boots and work on their own national development. Instead CARICOM leaders which are so ineffective at leading productive nations blame all of their country’s ills on smallness. Bahhh! There are some nations in Asia just as small.
The sad part is, after these Caribbean leaders keep saying “we can’t do anything as a nation without a single market” people start believing it! Barbados didn’t have a single market in the 80s and 90s, yet it was higher on the Human Development Index than now? OTOH the Dominican Republic’s economy is surging ahead without all this “CARICOM thing”. So what gives? CARICOM still hasn’t spelled out what role the “Associate members” (all British overseas territories), will have in the organisation have they?
Anyway I’m sorry to hear this happen to the poor lady. I bet it is traumatic but unless CARICOM merge all the region’s immigration departments together nothing isn’t going to change.
BF, as far as i concern; duh in welcom in Bim, whether or not ‘they submit’!!
Good for music, sport n CRIME n that’s about ***ing it!! Useless ********!!
To Al Robinson
Yuh see you! Jamaicans DONT like Bajans and Bajans DONT like Jamaicans for the most part! That is how it is. But for your ignorant ass to go and say that you would never visit Barbados in a hundreds just because of this situation is pure CHUPINESS! YOU’RE JEALOUS!!!! jamaica is the CENTER of HATE! I as a Bajan cant talk to a jamaican about Barbados without them kissing duh teet or rolling duh eyes or saying something offensive about my island. I am currently living in NY and all the jamaicans I have come in contact with were EXTREMELY RUDE & NEGATIVE!(shows you that jamaican ignorance is international!) I was on the bus one time and had by bookbag in the seat next to me and this jamaican lady gets on the bus and instead of asking me kindly to move my bag she instead harshly says “TEK YUH BAG UP” and I said excuse me and she said again “TEK YUH BAG UP!” I told her next she needs to watch how she talks to me! And as soon as another seat opened up I haul my ass from dey and I lef she feeling so BLASTED STUPID! YOU DONT HAVE TO COME TO BARBADOS BECAUSE WE WOULDN’T WANT YOU THERE! STAN’ HOME!
P.S.
I have and NEVER WILL visit jamaica because I DON’T want to be shot, mauled, kidnapped or beaten!!!
LONG LIVE BARBADOS
GEM OF THE CARIBBEAN SEA!
And another thing why are jamaicans always trying to undermine the size of Barbados? Like being a small island is something shameful?!? Barbados is a creation of Mother Nature, so her small size is BEAUTIFUL!!!
I LOVE MY BARBADOS
I LOVE MY BARBADOS
I LOVE MY BARBADOS
I LOVE MY BARBADOS
I LOVE MY BARBADOS
I LOVE MY BARBADOS
Well said Bajan Price. Finally the Bajans seem to be waking up to the Jamaican menace, of which I’ve been warning them for years, usually to harsh criticism. Well said to u and others, and how true!
BP, they’re the most ignorant ***tards u could hope to find on the face of this planet!!
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@”man wiv no shame”: You finally giver yourself away BIMBRO.
“Barbados Government says Shanique Myrie involved in Human Trafficking”. I’m a little slow today so, please explain how a finger led body cavity search would get to the bottom of a Human Trafficking ring? Secondly, some are asking why was there no video recording to document this “inner view” by Immigration? Would YOU want or consent to a video recording of yourself undergoing a full body cavity search? I think not. Who wants to find themselves on YouTube or BajanTube unintentionally. Go figure.
A word of caution to the Government of Barbados – truth or not, we are having too many accusations of hostile behavior toward our fellow Caribbean citizens. It would be in the interest of the country’s reputation that greater attention be paid to investigating complaints before rushing to defend, dismiss or lay blame.
Remember folks, Barbadians travel a lot and we may find ourselves in the hands of patriotic immigration and customs officers eager to make amends.
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We wuz hoping to find about 25 lbs of compressed herb up in dey!
You well know how some women capacious-so!
I mean…REALLY!……………………….
Good points Jumbie
The simple fact is that no tourist, whatever nationality, should be subjected to this kind of violation without just cause.
Since the government is too gutless to allow security cameras into these areas for security purposes, and immigration doesn’t have to file and disseminate a report for all people to see, what consituted such a viloation, then nothing will change.
If they had reasonable cause to do a strip search to see if she was carrying drugs weren’t they checking on the wrong cavity?
Wunnuh think Bajan Officialdom nice??
Here’s a story that NEVER made the Press,
but I happen to know of it first-hand
from one of the several Trinidadian victims!
…………………………………………..
Remember the Flying Fish Wars that were happening some years ago?
in little bajan minds?
-while the Trinis were checking their flying fish
for Barbados serial numbers?
Remember that?
Everyone of minimal intellect here on the 166 sq.mi. of oceanic rubble
was all het up over something they could do Nothing about?
Well around that time
A group of about 8-10 wealthy Trinidadians booked the cruise of a lifetime
Orinoco. It was a Fred.Olsen ship they boarded,
having flown up from Trinidad to catch the cruise out of Barbados.
They were checked-in, boarded the ship and started unpacking their clothes,etc. for what would be a memorable 2 week trip.
Knock on the door.
Sorry sir but Barbados Officialdom says your Yellow Fever innocculation record is not valid.
Not just yours sir,
but your entire Trinidad party’s innocculation record is bare boo,
despite the shots having been done at several different Trinidad medical establishements.
Obviously NO-one in Trinidad knows how to rubber-stamp the things properly.
And so the entire party was evacuated off the ship.
Major disappointment.
Unplanned overnight stays in hotels on land,
and unplanned plane trips back to Trinidad next day, with long faces.
NO refunds from the cruise line, since “the fault” that stopped them from cruising was nothing to do with the cruise line, it was up to the passengers to see that their documentation was in order.
Barbados Officialdom decided it wasn’t.
No reason was given: none had to be given.
No-one could be held accountable. No names.
No officers stand up to say it was ME.
_________________________________
Nice story, nuh?
Left a reeaall nice taste in the mouth of the Trinis,
who no doubt went back to Trinidad and circulated the story about how “nice and friendly” the Bajans are
and no doubt pulled all manner of Barbados investment too!
DAAH fuh lick we!
——————————
Dah did we shot at Trinidad, fuh dem tekkin-way WE flyin fish, you know?
We got the phone call next day, with the unbelieveable story that shocked and mortified us, to say the least.
I was SHAME to my core to be a Bajan,
– to be even assoc,. with this phuckup place!
Trust me, we are CUUUTE when we ready.
Nasty nasty people, half of us.
Dear Bajan Prince/Prince of Barbados/I LOVE BARBADOS!!!
Your excessive nationalism
speaks VOLUMES to the problem we have here!
It means nothing.
It contributes nothing, other than making you feel good
about yourself, the island’s inadequacies and voluntarily-low standards which so suit 90% of its inhabitants.
Your love of the place you merely happened to be born
(no choice on your part)
does NOTHING to correct any of the myriad social problems we face.
Talk/love cheap — it tek MONEY and will-power to buy rum
and to get stuff DONE — but de sun hot,
an um cud always do tomorrow, you know?
To Bajan Prince: every country, nationality and race has its stereotypes. Your ignorant and inconsequential diatribe is an embarrassment to decent Barbadians. You strike me as someone who struggles to retain information and easily goes off course. You met some Jamaicans with attitude and so it justifies what happened to the young Jamaican woman at the airport. This is so reminiscent of white police officers here in Britain who learn that a Black male has committed an offence; instead of going after the culprit they arrest and charge the first Black man they come into contact with. What if that was you Bajan Prince how would you feel? Guilty for being Black and in this case guilty for being born Jamaican; what is the difference?
Why are all our Strip Clubs/Brothels filled with beautiful Jamaican young ladies?
I think this situation is unfortunate for both countries. No matter how we Caribbean folk competitive, and like to bash and generalize about each other, this is not something I’d wish on my worst enemy (violated in an airport!). I am not going to argue whether the allegation is true or not.
What is clear is that the Government of Barbados must put things in place so that an allegation like this can be easily proven or disproven. Can an officer take a visitor into a room unaccompanied by another officer? Are there clear rules/ regulations put in place to let officers know what action to take in what circumstance? Are allegations of misconduct investigated? If investigated, has anyone been found guilty of misconduct and action taken? Are there no cameras in the airport? To be clear, if the answer to these questions, with the exception of the first question, is no then there will be more accusations and embarassing reports. Transparency is the key to avoiding an issue like this.
I understand the hurt that Jamaicans feel, the story is appalling, but I will not say I won’t visit Barbados. Not even because of some of the thoughtless comments made on this page (you know who you are). I’ll be back in Barbados one day, hanging out with one of my best friend, a Bajan.
I also understand that if this accusation were made by a Bajan in Jamaica, I wouldnt want to beleive it was true. But I would hope that the truth could be proven quickly! Because I would like to feel secure that when my friend from Barbados comes to visit me in Jamaica, nobody in Jamaica could think to serve up such an indignity!
If only to protect the officers(plural) in such a situation
there should be MUST BE cameras
recording everything visible, done and said in the interrogation room.
There MUST BE two officers present for such things!
Something went badly wrong.
Now we see Egg all over GAIA Customs face!! Big time!
From the sound of it, this is a evil-minded spite-search!
Maybe the J’ca lady came off too haughty for one of our overly-procedural female Customs Officers
The Bajan Prince does have a point even if he is saying more than necessary. You all shouldn’t be so hasty as to shoot down his comments because he did not say that he condoned the mistreatment of this Jamaican national. Unfortunate occurrence though, just comes to show you their is NO true Caribbean paradise.
If, per Mr. Husbands, the man she was to stay with is a known “human trafficker” why is he not in jail?
@Ah Lie: Because you need a better gene pool
@ Docta Suss.
My point is that if we control these clubs, then we can control the demand for trafficking of persons, and probably solve issues at points of entry.
I think we should let this issue be properly investigated, because there are three sides to most stories.
I don’t think we should be shouting across the sea on this matter as it will cause other problems to germinate.
Anonymouse, does it matter so much too u?!! – poor thing!!
Trying to justify the horrible treatment of this woman by saying that Jamaicans are drug mules, drug dealers, rapist murders etc is so very unfortunate. Since Barbados is such an upscale, international society, I am shocked that it does not have body scanners to screen Jamaicans instead of taking our women to a private bathroom and finger them to try and find out what all those Bajan men are going crazy over. Barbados is a black country like Jamaica with more police and a smaller population so your crime statistics is going to appear to be lower, plus your government covers up crime or blame it on Jamaicans living there. Get real Bajans – you are not all that. The big hoe Rihanna done spread it out for all the world to see. No dancehall reggae, yardie or Jamaican criminal can top your girl for the title of most immoral! Rememeber while we are notorious we are almost famous for so many things that you will never be able to achieve. Keep your strong dollar and sexual sadism – we deal with ours openly and nuh feel nuh way, we will overcome. Which Jamaican eat Bajan products. What do you produce? Just a bunch of house niggers. Bet you don’t finger a white person. Small, orderly, tidy sick society of sexual sadists!
Two Anns on this forum!
Look for this headline on Fox News soon….
TOURIST SEXUALLY ASSAULTED AND DEPORTED FROM BARBADOS BY IMMIGRATION/CUSTOM OFFICIALS. BARBADIAN SENATOR RESPONDS TO HER PROTEST WITH CLAIMS THAT SHE IS INVOLVED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
Victims of Barbados:
– Terry Schwarzfeld, Canada, beaten on vacation in Barbados and later died as a result of the attack. Initially covered up by local govt. & media.
– Andrew Thompson, UK, robbed & shot on vacation with wife in Barbados. Initially covered up by local govt. & media.
Either that immigration officer in on drugs, because I fail to believe the official would have engage in such a dispicable display of verbal abus, and or this lady from Jamaica is not telling the whole truth about this matter.
Reading most of the comments and it is clear to many Barbadians have a strong hatred for us Jcans. Therefore there could be some truth to what the girl has claimed about the words the officers spewed while searching her. Still, I see their point. I would hate us too. We J’cans are a proud set and lond before the world knew anything about B’dos et al they knew about Jca. Afterall J’ca is the Caribbean. Forget about regional or Caribbean integration. Other islands just don’t count.
B’dians need to stop drinking the haterade, it does no good.
Btw let me make this absolutely clear, we J’cans have the God in us and the will to withstand earthquakes, hurricanes etc. Note how many hurricanes approach our island, make a U-turn, head to other island and cause mass destruction and chaos?
Mssg to you Barbadians: Please cure yourselves of hater-syndrome because any weapon formed against us J’cans will not stand!!!
As far as drug trafficking is concerned it is not just a J’can problem. I am certain that as the Caribbean is a trans-shipment route all the islands are guilty. Besides the Jcan gov’t has been cooperative in the war on drugs and there as been a serious crack down wrt to personnels acting as carriers.
The thing I don’t understand is why would any J’can travel to B’dos. We have the same, sand, beaches, ppl with better vibes and better tasting food. If you look at the Caribbean food section here in the UK one will decipher that most of the Caribbean foods are those from Jca and even if not made in Jca they use J’can names (eg Blue Mountain) to market it.
I usually support Caribbean integration but if other Islanders behave like a$$ then I change my mind
If her story is true…this is disgusting, and the person/persons involved should be fired .
If the story is not true, it would be interesting to know why the story was made up.
There never will be cameras in interrogation rooms at the airport.
Why did over 17000 Jamaicans visit Barbados last year, if we treat them so badly?
Imported Jamaican meat patties taste horrible.
Barbadian foods taste even worst, all that long water sous. Anyways no point getting into a slanging match. Jamaica is the Caribbean, our beauty, food, music, coffee, athletics a tops. Other islands simply follows.
There are B’dians living in/ visiting J’ca, as there are Jcans living in and visiting our Islands. The thing is we Jcans are naturally a warm and friendly bunch we don’t have time to watch who are visiting.
I live in the UK, but it is obvious now that I wouldn’t endorse anything with the TT or B’dian seal.
I cannot blame you guys for your backward mindset. Now I understand why Mary Lynch had to get rid of her B’dian husband by sending him to the grave. He married the poor woman and subjected her to a miserable life. J’cans don’t need to take crap. Forget about regional integration. I wouldn’t support it, less I was dead.
Come to think of it Rihanna is the only prominent B’dian I know. Who are they?
Well that immigrattion officer had to feel twice, she had to make sure what it is that B’dian men crave, real good stuff that they cannot get on home soil.
I meant immigration
yatinkiteasy, it is always better to eat patty fresh from an oven. Besides you need to put it in the oven and not microwave. If you got to Juici beef or Tastee and eat their patty you never ever live in B’dos.
Anyways I still know we have better tasting foods, so no biggie
Wow it amazes me anytime there is an important issue like this we end up a talking about anything. Hmm, like who food not good. Who is more known. Which island better. Who cares? This lady allegidly went through hell. Even if cameras arent allowed there have to be some of procedure. Decisions to search people, or send them home should not be impacted by how someone feel about a group of people today. Policy needs to be clear.
@One Jamaican
I agree with you.
I would like to ask why should any immigration officer have the right to placed their hands in any cavity of traveler, whether national, or non-national. Is it standard that an immigration officer the world over to do whatever, once you are trying to entering a country?
This is not a Jamaican issue, this can even happen to a Barbadian re-entering the country, who might be suspected of carrying drugs.
any foreigner, or rather black Caribbean national flying into Barbados, is CONSTANTLY subjected to the over enthusiasm of Bajan immigration officers.
Whites/tourists get first class, professional service. Guaranteed a suspected CAUCASIAN would not have received such treatment.
I am a black West Indian and I HATE traveling to Barbados primarily for HORRIBLE degrading, condescending, ill mannered Bajan Immigration.
Barbados is beautiful, why must the first encounter be so UNPLEASANT???
Me here say Barbados full up a Batymen. Why you dont stick yuh finga up dem baty!!!!!
@ One jamaican, it is clear that what this immigration officer did was to single out this Young lady because of her nationality. For that reason I have to bring up things like food and our culture. I can only suggest that there are some misconceptions/ jealousy of us.
I believe Shanique, not because she is my fellow Jcan but I have heard similar stories b4. And in Jca they say, ‘What nuh go so, nearly go so.’ The B’dian officials are going to cover up this as much as possible to protect their image. Perhaps next time we should send an undercover team to expose them.
That officer should be suspended, pending investigation.
Babbzy’s Cuntery speaks we hope you Barbarians listen….
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1770389591259&oid=178671207454
The inexplicable treatment accorded to Miss Myrie and the callous undignified attitude of Barbadian airport authorities and their representatives should be condemned by every person in contact with this story. It is disgraceful and enough for Jamaica to examine the country to country relationship and those involved in such undignified behavior should be fired and a public apology should be made to the people of Jamaica. Disrespecting any foreign nationals with such unwelcomed behavior is bad.
BFP some of the things written on this blog is so disgusting why not take it off, and let the authorities investigate, to give a reason for all this. Some of the writings are so degrading to women, who may be their mothers, sisters, children, wife or girlfriends, quite disgusting. What if it is not true, what happens then? and if it is true, then let the GAIA deal with it, and the law courts.
First of all, Jamaica and Jamaicans are not better than Barbados and Barbadians, as well as vice-versa. This earth and everything and everyone belongs to only God and Jesus Christ, unless you as an individual chooses to follow the devil. I am a grateful, happy and very proud Barbadian living in Canada, now if this story is true, it was wrong the way the Immigration Officer handle the situation and if it is false, everyone, meaning Barbadians and Jamaicans should listen and watch first for the honest truth that has to be said, on both sides, before throwing hatred and insults at each other, because doing that does not a make an individual or group feel and look any better. For too long now all the Caribbean islands look down on one another, each thinks it’s better than the next because their are bigger or have mountains etc. But after all the aruging and fussing and fighting, we all must die one day and all the beauty and richness and success of an island or of an individual will not make us go to be with the Lord. But honestly, it is more than a fact that Jamaicans do have attitude problems with all other Caribbean islands. Most other islands have for a very long time talked about their displeaure for Jamaicans. Jamaicans must learn to be more humble and Godly, because all of us and our ancestors only got to these Caribbean islands because of SLAVERY and again these are Gods islands not ours, so be very extremely careful about how your trying to insult Barbados and other islands. And as a whole most black people world wide have a big problem with other black people. Many African-Americans do not like Caribbean Blacks and African Blacks and many African Blacks do not like Caribbean Blacks and African-Americans. Believe it or not NOBODY IS BETTER THAN NOBODY FOR NO REASON AT ALL. So everybody needs to smarten up for their own good, and the whole truth and nothing but the truth will come out very soon, regardless of if this individual is lying or not.
Bajan Prince living in New York. Your rhetoric shows your blatant ignorance and hatred for Jamaicans. ow did you get to New York and why is it that you are so bitter about my fellow countrymen? I have been to Barbados on three occasions and have not been subjected to the callous rudeness that was accorded to Miss Myrie at your airport. Face it, the treatment was and still is inexplicable. The officer searching the passenger was rude and disrespectful not only to the passenger, but to my Jamaica. I have many good friends in Barbados, but this story is seriously one of hate and overreaching and has no place in country to country relations. Finally, stop your hating and try to love a Jamaican and you will see that you are prejudiced by hate.
@ KIM: Which would your prefer, the allegation of assualt being true or false?
@Jamaica is the Caribbean. Didn’t a bunch of tourists get food poison eating Jamaican jerk chicken a month or two ago? Better foot my tail… I wouldn’t want my vacation meal to be my last.
Better food my tail..
@ J.Payne: Terry Schwarzfeld of Canada’s vacation to Barbados was her last. She and her friend were beaten barbarically by a local and died as a result of her injuries. The Barbadian courts only gave him 15 years.
…if what you say about tourist getting food poisoning from jerk chicken is true…it was surely accidental…and no one died…however the senseless beating of this woman was intentional and she subsequently died!
btw…sorry about your tail
@ J Payne
The tourist were poisoned from seafood THEY prepared themselves…shows your level of ignorance. I guess you dont fall in the 90% literacy rate your country boasts about.
anyways, the height of ignorance displayed by many of you here is appalling, Jamaicans included. its so unfair to profile and stereotype based on where you’re from. Everybody will think there food, country, music is the best. its natural. nothing is wrong with that, but when you become so closed minded because of what you hear about and based on your perception then you are no better of than the “criminals” you are so trying to bar from your country. Am i to think that there is NO crime in B’dos and all Bajans are God fearing, church going holier than though christians? I really think not. There is good and bad everywhere, but you must first get to know the person or situation before you being quick to judge.
@Kim, you are being very hypocritical you are saying that everyone is same and talking about God and blah blah blah but yet you are quick to say Jamaicans have an attitude problem, how many jcans have you encountered to make such a generalization? or are you just going based on hearsay?. We are often misunderstood and thats very sad. I’m glad i have bajan friends that make me the wiser to know that not all bajans believe they are better than everyone else and I am glad they have us j’cans as friends to know that we are not all criminals and drug mules. Its all about education and everyone on here needs to learn about the other and experience it before being quick to judge. This tit for tat is not helping anybody but highlighting how we treat each other as Caribbean ppl. Its ashame.
What happened to Ms Myrie is unfortunate, if it is true, and if happened in Jamaica i would be just as upset. I hope that immigration worker gets fired.
I guess ethnic profiling is alive and well in Barbados.For those who condone this conduct remember bajans travel also and to Jamaica as well.But I am going on the assumption that the information published is factual .
Kim you turned around and shoot yourself in the mouth. You started out as if you were all for unity then end up stereotyping. Your attitude stinks, how about that?
The Barbados gov’t seem to have a policy against Caribbean Nationals. They do not want us in Barbados, I simply have not gone to Barbados since. There are 100+ countries around the world; Where you are not welcome simply stay away. For an island that depends on the tourist dollar the systems and some of the people there don’t get.
Just letting you know Barbados is not the last place on earth and I do not have to visit your over priced place. So to your politicians and your immigration when the international tourists stop coming because of your poor service, I wont be coming to spend my hard earned dollars to be treated in a degrading suspicious manner by some of your untrained, fit to clean pit toilets Custom Officers!
J. Payne we take pride in preparing our food, I cannot recall anyone dying via food / water poisoning after visiting our Island. Perhaps you are confusing us with Mexico.
Anyways back to the story, I hope our Gov’t get to the bottom of this. Otherwise forget about Caribbean integration. How would your Gov’t feel if we treated B’dian Nat’ls coming to our island like that? Pls remember there are B’dians living and working in Jca. Quit the stereotyping, because two can play that game.
Would like to travel to alot of places, but if I never travel to Bdos it is not a biggie. Afterall there is a host of other islands were I can get nice sun and beaches.
Shanique is good that she had not stooped to the Immigration woman’s level and spit in her face. I bet that woman is unattractive? Damn unprofessional and jealous
Nobody has been suspended pending an investigation into Ms Myrie’s complaint ;what does this say about Barbados that prides itself in upholding the law? Everything I’ve heard so far about the treatment of Caribbean nationals and especiallyJamaicans suggests the following thinking by the Bajan authorities: ”if you’re white you’re all right and the country welcomes you with open arms whoever or whatever you are, after all, white folks don’t commit crime; if you are black step back while we finger you, degrade and humiliate you just for the pleasure of it and then send you home on the next flight”. Somebody at the top is giving the orders and it explains why these people are so casually confident in behaving so appallingly knowing full well that their bosses condone their vulgar and depicable action and will continue to protect them regardless of the offences they commit. Where is the transparency? This really is the real Barbados with holes in its pants and its backside exposed for all to see.I have never been to Barbados and strangely enough I was planning a trip there with my daughter soon but now that I’ve become aware of the degrading treatment meted out to Jamaicans I will stay away.There are large Jamaican communities living in North America and Europe. Jamaica has a population of nearly 3m people and an equivalent number live abroad mainly in the above countries.These stories of maltreatment are spreading like wildfire thanks to the diffrerent mediums of communication available and many I’m sure will not visit. To the powers that be remember that Barbados is overly dependent on tourism for its very survival; it puts food on your table.This has become international news; everyone is talking about the wild beasts at Grantley Adams airport who take pleasure in spewing their venom on unsuspecting travellers to that island. Clean up your act Barbados it stinks and does not augur well for future intercountry relations. REMEMBER THE OLD ADAGE; WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND.
@”Jamaica is the Caribbean” PLEASE STOP TALKING!!!!! YOU SOUND SO IGNORANT!!!!!!!!! SHUT UP PLEASE!
@Anonymous
The only you would know that Barbados is as you say “full up a batymen” is if you slept with one yourself! Now I wonder whose the “batyman”?!??!!
Oh and learn how to write in proper english you sound IGNORANT!
>>>>>>>>BFP EDITOR TO THIS READER<<<<<<<<<
Choose a name an stick wit it. MOre than one name is astroturfing and not allowed here.
george for bfp
Strangely, if Jamaica heard news of a Barbadian woman being violated in such a manner is another country we would all come to her defense without question. We would see her as a woman first and Caribbean national second and be just as offended if she were Jamaican. Furthermore, had the circumstances been reversed we would not stand for some custom/immigration agent doing that. Ask any of your nationals how they are treated in Jamaica and only a minute few, if any, would have anything negative to say.
@George: Thank you for not censoring the comments, free speech is important.
http://www.stabroeknews.com/2011/opinion/letters/03/26/women%E2%80%99s-groups-should-denounce-the-treatment-of-the-jamaican-woman-by-barbados-immigration/
I am a black Bajan national who has been living in Barbados for over 20 years. Just reading the story made my heart sink. My first thought was “I hope this is not true”, however from reading the comments made by Miss Myrie, it sounds very typical of those in authority at the airport. Regardless of the reasons for a cavity search, these procedures should be carried out in a sterile environment, not a bathroom, with another female witness/officer present. Official documents should be signed with the names of boths officers along with the name of the person being searched. Not a consent form, because I can’t imagine anyone wanting to consent to a cavity search.
More often than not when returning to Barbados, the ‘nothing to declare’ section is closed, and I too have to go through the ‘something to declare’ section. On every occassion, I would stand in line at a male officers station as the women always seem to be ‘out to get you’. It is unfortunate, however I must agree that Bajans seem to be getting more hateful, rude and abnoxious by the day.
To the poster who had an rude experience on a bus with a fellow passenger, rudeness happens everywhere, all the time. For instance, last week I was in line at the subby counter at a supermarket in Oistins, an employee walking past, hand on stomach and remarked to another employee that she was ‘going to hol’ a shit’!! Yes, I complained, but it doesn’t mean I would never return to that supermarket ever again.
Growing up in London, we embraced our West Indian community, there was no dislike towards those of another island, in fact it was an educating and enlightening experience.
If this is in fact a true story, I’m sure those guilty parties are trying hard to cover their tracks. And, if this indeed the case – heads should roll, from the top all the way down!
‘Big Up’ my Jamaica people, from a Bajan you loves you!!
@ Jamaica is the Caribbean …. You ask why Jamaicans would travel to Barbados? Well it’s because it’s one of the few countries including Antigua(where i’m from) where they do not need a visa to travel to and they are not coming for sun, sea or sand. They are coming to STAY illegally and not a few ..most of J’cans in Antigua come on ‘vacation’ and then hook up with a local who sets them up with a ‘housemaid’ job or they do ‘security’ work. After doing this for 7 to 10 years they apply for the Antiguan passport then fly off the Europe, North America visa free never to be seen again. Jamaicans claim they have the best music, food and they are the Caribbean but then turn around and raise hell when immigration sends them back to paradise. Why?
Here in the UK, Jamaica and Barbados are arguably the two best known places in the Caribbean. Jamaican food and music is better known; Barbados has a much better media reputation. Neither reason merits a “jump and wave” to my mind.
So it’s a shame that some of the comments on such a pertinent issue have descended into name-calling.
As a Bajan working in the UK immigration advice sector I see the prejudice that many of my Jamaican clients face on a daily basis; and things are about to get a hell of a lot worse. I agree with Anonymouse Not By Choice that we need to be careful about perpetrating bigotry against ourselves.
The Barbadian government must deal with this incident in a more open way. But bad-mouthing each other in the meantime just makes us both look petty and childish.
I still stick by my words. I will boycott anything with TT or B’dos seal of approval and i urge fellow Jcan to do so too. I hope PM Bruce Golding do something about this and the 3 other cases made mention this week.
Jamaica should pull out of CARICOM, most of the islanders are a bunch of a$$e$. If they cannot respect our Islanders why should we even interact/ do business with them?
BimLove I would like you to shut me up. BFP can delete my comments if they like. I am so angry and is not me. Ms. Myrie behaved proper. Wished she hand spat in that woman’s eye and blind her. Pity she did not refuse to be searched, guess she did not know her rights.
We need answers hard and fast about why was this allowed to happen, that is all
Jamaica is the Caribbean
March 27, 2011 at 2:35 pm
I still stick by my words. I will boycott anything with TT or B’dos seal of approval and i urge fellow Jcan to do so too. I hope PM Bruce Golding do something about this and the 3 other cases made mention this week.
Jamaica should pull out of CARICOM, most of the islanders are a bunch of a$$e$. If they cannot respect our Islanders why should we even interact/ do business with them?
Not much to boycott here in Barbados…I wish you luck!
Well for starters Carib cement is one.
The fact is I am sure if it was a B’dian National visiting our shores we wouldn’t succumb them to such awful treatment, treat others how you would want others to treat you.
Since I don’t have the power to get justice, I really hope the Jcan Gov’t pressure the Bdian gov’t for answers. I cannot imaging CARICOM without J’ca (ask your gov’t), but what is the point if our Nationals are ostracized and ill-treated? No point. Would this happen to a Polish visiting the UK? No. Shouldn’t happen to even a dog.
house slaves fighting down field slaves, mulattos fighting down house slaves. this is how the plantation system was able to thrive, by the massa creating division among slaves. this division empowered massa. this slavery mentality has remaind etched in our genome and we children of slaves continue to hate and hurt each other only to to be accomodating to the browning next door or the white customer at the supermarket.
this psychological scar sadly has plagued our caribbean for centuaries, and we sensless children of slaves instead of embracing each other celebrating our likeness and respecting our differences we struggle to get from the canefields to the house and into massa’s bed!
Correction *imagine
SLAVERY MENTALITY!!!!!!
@caribena
so well said. It is time to unite as Caricom and those that do not see that will hold all of the Caricom back.
There is an article in the Advocate today on the BGI matter. No government would ever admit that it did happen. However after reading the article I have come to the conclision that if both the Jamican and the Barbados governmenst have now exchanged official complaints about this as well as other similiar matters, there is obvioulsy a large element of truth to what has been complained about.
HERE IS MORE FROM MISS MYRIE IN THE JAMAICA OBSERVER BELOW.
Everyone here in Jamaica is angry as hell. I start to see the effect of the boycott of Barbados goods already. The shelves that used to be almost empty was full yesterday.
‘Barbadians are the ones lying’
They humiliated and searched me like I was an animal, says J’can woman who complained of horrific cavity search.
BY KARYL WALKER, News Editor Sunday, March 27, 2011
SHANIQUE Myrie, the Jamaican woman who complained of being finger-raped and humiliated by Barbadian immigration authorities earlier this month, has hit back at claims by the Barbadian Government that she was not subjected to a body cavity search.
On Friday, Barbadian senator Harry Husbands claimed there was no record of Myrie being searched by either immigration or customs officers and alleged that the Jamaican was a victim of human trafficking.
MYRIE… I can identify the woman who defiled me
“Shanique Myrie, on arrival in Barbados, claimed she would have been staying with a female resident, but a closer investigation however revealed she was actually staying with a Barbadian man who actually facilitates the entry of non-nationals into the island,” Husbands was quoted in the online edition of Nation News as saying.
But yesterday Myrie was livid at Husbands’ statements and threatened to sue the Barbadian Government for the treatment meted out to her.
“I am not lying. They humiliated me and searched me like I was an animal. They can carry me back to the Barbados airport and I can show you every room they took me into. I can identify the woman who defiled me. They are the ones who are lying,” she told the Sunday Observer.
Myrie insisted that she was defiled by the Barbadian authorities at the Grantley Adams International Airport on March 14.
In her interview published in the Daily Observer on March 24, she said: “The lady took me into a bathroom and told me to take off my clothes. I did as requested. After searching me and my clothes she found no contraband or narcotics. She then asked me to bend over, open my legs and spread (my private parts). She said that if I did not comply then she would see that I end up in prison in Barbados. When I bent over and spread my (private parts) I felt something enter my (private parts) and when I looked between my legs I saw her gloved hand in my (private parts). I screamed and stood up.
“She then told me if I obstructed her doing a cavity search she would have me locked up. I bent over again and spread. She again inserted her fingers and poked around. I felt like I was being raped. I was so hurt and ashamed. I felt dirty and defiled, I don’t even know if the gloves she used was clean or had been used on somebody else,” she said.
Myrie, who said the immigration officer removed her identification tag before humiliating her, also said the immigration officer expressed her hatred for Jamaicans.
“I am going to sue them,” she went on.
The trip was her first out of the island and Myrie lambasted Husbands’ claim that she was a human trafficking victim.
“I went to visit Mrs Pamella Clarke. When I arrived at the airport they asked me who I came to and I gave them her number. They called her and she told them she wasn’t feeling well and had sent a man called Daniel to pick me up. They asked me about Daniel and I told them I did not know him. I have no reason to lie. They are the ones that are lying,” she said.
Myrie said she was locked in a room with another woman whom the Sunday Observer contacted yesterday. The woman, Rickrisha Rowe, said Myrie cried all night as she recounted her ordeal.
“I saw her being carried up and down by a man and a lady. She was crying when she came into the room and she told me what they did to her,” said Rowe.
“She said they stripped her two times and that the woman was squeezing her breasts as if she could cut her skin and put something inside them. She said they made her bend down and spread,” said Rowe, who revealed that she was also denied entry into the island because she had overstayed on a previous visit.
Rowe, however, said she found that strange because she had returned to the island without a problem since the time she overstayed.
She said the conditions in the cramped room were deplorable.
“I was locked in the room for over 12 hours. There was dirty toilet paper stuck on the wall and the place was filthy. You wouldn’t want to lean up anywhere. The bed was small with board and a raw sponge. In addition, the place was freezing. It was very cold, don’t care what you put on,” Rowe said.
Both women claim they were herded out of the room minutes before the flight back to Jamaica and were told they would only have time to wash their faces and brush their teeth.
Myrie’s claim sparked outrage in Jamaica and abroad and Public Defender Earl Witter has been mandated by Security Minister Dwight Nelson to investigate the incident. Witter is scheduled to meet with Myrie this week.
HOW ABOUT THIS HEADLINE IN THE JAMAICA GLEANER?
Myrie’s claim sparked outrage in Jamaica and abroad and Public Defender Earl Witter has been mandated by Security Minister Dwight Nelson to investigate the incident. Witter is scheduled to meet with Myrie this week.
@Dessalines: All people of this world should have the right to be free and lawfully pursue happiness wherever on this planet they desire. And so should an individual from Jamaica if him or her chooses . If you really think about it they are not “coming to STAY illegally” they are actually doing ‘housemaid’ job or they do ‘security’ work, marrying one of you, suffering indignities from people like you for 7 to 10 years so they can apply for an Antiguan passport which to them is a gateway to the world and their dreams…and after dealing with the likes of you why would they ever want to be seen on your tiny island again? Jamaica does have the best music, food and as a proud confident people with a unique culture we need more room for our expression and ambitions. In other words, Jamaica is too small for us and we resent being restricted and will constantly find ways and means to escape any form of unfair confinement even if it means putting up with the likes of you for 7 to 10 years…what have you done with the freedom you have? Have you been to Europe or North America? Jamaican is not what we are, it is WHO we are! It’s stamped in our DNA and not passport so not matter where we are we are Jamaican and don’t pretend to be otherwise. Have you ever seen a Jamaican pretend to be Antiguan? Well I have seen Japanese, Germans, Americans, Africans,… even Antiguans pretend to be Jamaican. Jamaica has contributed more to your culture and identity than the few passports you have issued to our nationals. Btw…I am sure if your people and island was more welcoming they would feel a greater desire to stay for I know with the contribution of hard working Jamaicans you would improve as a nation.
@dr Suss ..the hallmark of any great country is in it’s ability to provide the highest standard of living for it’s nationals…at least Antigua has done just that plus providing a higher standard of living for 1000s of Ja’s and Guyanese ect…you claim music, food, sports, bauxite however rue main export is economic refugees..I attended university in Paris and did a semester in Lausanne however I never entertained the thought of staying in Europe.
@Dessalines: Hmmmm…maybe you should have studied closer to home perhaps you would’ve been less ignorant…
@dr Suss You are proving my point exactly with what we have to put up with. Jamaican envy of the ‘small islands’ who have out performed them economically. Having the best music and food doesnt put food ion the table and we re sick and tired of the No 1 nation in the cbean sponging off the smaller countries. The least u can do with ure ‘greatness’ is pull u re own weight. And yes i see jamaicans pretending to be Antiguans every day..in St johns they claim birthright here, on Tagged and Facebook they list their nationality as Antiguan. Europe and North America (even the Caymans,Tortolla etc) have shut out Ja’s due to the degradation of living standards associated with crime/prostitution within the Ja immigrant community in those countries. So now Antigua Barbados et al have become the meccas of the c’bean for desperate jamaicans trying to escape their cultural paradise. You yourself said it ….any form of unfair confinement … That sums up for me how Jamaicans really feel about Jamaica.
@Dessalines: Are you suffering some form of delusion of grandeur?
@Dessalines: btw…u argue like a woman…are you?
If the allegations are true, the perpetrator should be seriously punished. That said, so far the investigations found no evidence. But whether further investigations take place (either in the form of an internal investigation conducted by the Ministry or a publicly televised Commission of Inquiry, I am concerned that some people will not accept the findings of any investigation until it supports the alleged victim’s version of events. I am not a fan of our immigration officers and their treatment of CARICOM (and even some Barbadian) travelers, but I am a fan of fairness and due process.
Today’s Advocate says 851 Jamaicans have been sent back since 2008.
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False accusation
3/27/2011
http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?more=local&NewsID=16628
Senator McClean: Jamaican body search claim a fabrication
“Over 50 000 persons travelled to Barbados from Jamaica from 2008-2010, with only 851 of those being refused entry.”
851 out of 50 000 that isn’t even 2%……
Actually 2008-2010, not “since”.
I stand 100% behind Bajan immigration officers who go to work everyday to protect me. They are our homeland security people. They stand between people who can do harm to Bajans and Bajans. I thank them for their services.
So far I haven’t seen anyone make an attempt to investigate Ms. Myrie. Most people are taking her word for what happened. I am not that easy to convince. Following are some questions I would like the Jamaican media to ask Ms. Myrie
1 Why was she visiting Barbados?
2 For how long has she known the woman she claims she was going to stay with?
3 What is her profession in Jamaica and what is the profession of the woman she claims she was going to stay with in Barbados?
4 Has Ms. Myrie ever been accused of lying publicly?
5 Does she have a criminal record?
6 Does she have a history of mental instability?
It isn’t fair to allow her to make an accusation that is damaging to so many people and that required Bajans launch an investigation without her having to undergo an investigation herself.
I personally have been the victim of liars who claimed I said and did things I did not say or do on more than one occasion, so I usually need some additional evidence before I believe most people’s stories these days. Some liars can be very convincing. There was a case in the U.S. in which a group of teenage girls accused a male teacher of improper sexual conduct. Their story was believed until an honest girl stepped forward and told an adult the girls lied. The group of girls then admitted they lied against the teacher. There was another case in the U.S. in which a boy told his father a man who lived across the street from them molested him. His father murdered the man, only to find out too late that the child had made up the story. There was another case, also in the U.S., in which a woman claimed her estranged husband was beating her. She was on a cell phone with a 911 (emergency) dispatcher screaming “Stop” and acting as if her husband was attacking her. She told the dispatcher to send a police officer right away. She was lying. The only thing that saved her husband is the fact that he had a surveillance camera on his house which captured his wife faking abuse.
It is possible that Ms. Myrie and the other woman could have been bitter about being denied entry and while waiting for hours to be sent back to Jamaica concocted the story that is making headlines now. Since they are not on trial, they won’t be cross examined by anyone. This story will most likely always be a “he said she said” story that cannot be proven or disproved. Since we are not likely to ever know what really happened, I am standing by my people.
P.S.
In February 2010, a Jamaican man showed up at the airport in Barbados claiming he planned to spend one week on vacation in Barbados. For some reason, the Bajan immigration officer was suspicious of him. Upon further questioning, the Jamaican man admitted he had swallowed 64 pellets containing marijuana. He was a drug mule. He was sent to the hospital and an x-ray was done. The x-ray showed the pellets. He was sentenced to a brief term in prison in Barbados.
I think to prevent situations like Ms. Myrie’s case in the future, the Barbadian government should put cameras everywhere in the airport and make sure more than one officer is with potential deportees at all times.
For all we know Ms Myrie makes a living being probed on a bar counter in Jamaica for money and was hoping to explore her possibilities in Barbados where the dollar is a lot stronger. I hope she goes through with the lawsuit then we’ll know the truth
In a way, I am hoping Ms. Myrie files a lawsuit, because it is the only way an investigation is likely to be launched into her background and that she will be cross examined. Her witness will be investigated and cross examined also. Without a lawsuit, people will just take her word for what happened, and I am not convinced she has told the truth.
BFP, when I read your blog, I get mixed messages. Sometimes you put out posts that show you care about Barbados, but sometimes you put out posts with titles like the one attached to this story. Your title is “Jamaican Women Welcome in Barbados if They Submit to a Finger Up Their Vagina.” Surely you know that title is damaging to the reputation of Barbados, especially since you don’t even know if the story is true. You obviously used the words you used to get “hits” to your website. Your popularity is obviously more important to you than the image of Barbados. Barbados Underground used a more respectable title and they have gotten more responses to their post than you have to yours. You can increase the number of comments on your site if you simply write about topics that are interesting to Barbadians. There is no need to try to add shock value to your stories.
@Dessalines and @JustSayinBajan: hmmmm…your myopic views, if shared by the officers at the airport, makes her allegations all the more probable …
” Upon further questioning, the Jamaican man admitted he had swallowed 64 pellets containing marijuana.”
Upon questioning? Like, ‘excuse me sir, but are you trafficking drugs’, answer’well,yes as a matter of fact I swallowed 64 pellets’?
Or did he get his tail burse as in’listen, I gine burse wunna ass if you dont tell me de trute, tek dah’ wallop, answer ‘doan killmu, yes, yes ah sorry, I swallowed some ganga’
Can she goto Jamaican police station and have a sketch artiste draw who did this to her? I know I would have the persons face imprinted on my memory ‘name-tag’ or not.
A simple solution to the Jamaican sex trade traffic, is to impose Visa restrictions on Jamaicans . We know that 99% of Jamaican ‘vacationers’ to the ‘small islands’ are unemployed and are unable to get a visa to go to the States/UK/Canada which is why they target the more developed small countries where the standard of living is much higher. This way the target countries can establish whether or not the applicants are gainfully employed or if they are economic refugees coming to exploit the education, health and general social services.
@Dr Suss … If our vision is myopic then lets add St Maarten to the list of myopic visionaries also. They just introduced Visa requirements for all Jamaicans and Guyanese travelling to those islands. So St. Maarten becomes the latest in a long list of fed up small islands, who cant take the alien invasion anymore. The music, food and unique culture is just too much for them.
http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headline-Guyanese-and-Jamaicans-need-visas-to-visit-St-Maarten-5551.html
Smellie,
Regardless of how they got the information, I am just glad he didn’t get the chance to distribute the marijuana to Barbadian children or adults.
I read today that last year 25 Jamaicans were deported from Barbados on drug charges and that so far this year (3 months have not passed) 7 have been deported on drug charges. A few months ago, a Jamaican teenager who Bajan immigration officers allowed into Barbados, but who did not leave when he was supposed to, was on trial for stabbing a Barbadian teenager to death. Months before that, a couple of Jamaican men who Bajan immigration officers allowed into Barbados, along with a Bajan accomplice, were arrested for armed robbery. It is believed they committed as many as 15 armed robberies in Barbados. Armed robbery involving guns is a relatively new phenomenon in Barbados, though it has been common in Jamaica for decades. A while back, a couple of jamaican men who Bajan immigration officers allowed into Barbados, again along with a Bajan accomplice (appears they recruit Bajan idiots once they arrive), had a shoot out with Bajan police. Bajan police are not accustomed to having shoot outs with people. Again, that is something that has been common in Jamaica for decades but is only now creeping into Bajan society. Last year a Barbadian woman was murdered by a Guyanese man who Bajan immigration officers allowed into Barbados.
I am very concerned about CARICOM nationals introducing problems that are common in their countries but not common in Barbados into Bajan society. I don’t want to have to dodge bullets, stay barricaded in my house, or go to bed worrying about being murdered in my house.
I want Bajan immigration officers to use whatever means necessary to keep me safe from criminals and to protect the livelihoods of Bajans. Last year, a man from Dominica went into Antigua and murdered an American tourist. The Antiguans are paying for that crime. Cruise ships canceled trips to Antigua because of that incident and I am sure potential tourists who read about the crime decided not to go there. That man from Dominica didn’t care about his Antiguan “brothers” and “sisters” when he committed that crime.
Many tourists who visit Barbados say safety is one of the main reasons they visit Barbados instead of other countries. We must protect ourselves. Ms. Myrie can sue and her countrymen and others can boycott if they want to. I want Bajan immigration officers to continue to be vigilant in trying to stop dangerous people from entering Barbados. I want Bajans to remain safe.
I think the nice lady from Jamaica should be given, free airfare, a free week in Barbados , at a nice Hotel, with all expenses paid… and then arrest her for filing a false accusation against the authorities at the airport where she was supposedly finger raped.
She could be from Timbuktu..Its a concocted story…and I`ll bet 6 Jamaican Patties on it!
what i found a little strange tho about the story is that the observer did not mention that the jamaican lady reportedly had her breast fondled. why didnt she mention this but told the other lady that was in the room (rickrisha rowe) who told reporters?
I just read an article in the Barbados Nation online and want to point out how people can lie and how the lie can be spread on the internet. I will prove my point by copying and pasting sections of reports from several sources.
JamaicaObserver.com March 25, 2011
JAMAICA’S former Honorary Consul to Barbados Marlon Gordon says his staunch advocacy on behalf of Jamaican nationals who are being discriminated against in that eastern Caribbean country cost him his post.
Gordon resigned in a huff as Jamaica’s consular representative in that country in January, and the Barbados government had been less than welcoming of him because of what he says is his ‘no-nonsense’ stance on their wholesale disdain for Jamaicans. “The Barbados government is upset because I talk up. They have made the post vacant in circumstances which have now exposed the Jamaican public to abuse. It is quite obvious that the government doesn’t want anybody to stand up,” he told the Observer.
CaribbeanNewsNow.com March 26, 2011
Although Barbados authorities deny Myrie’s allegations, her complaint was supported by Jamaican Honorary Consul to Barbados, Marlon Gordon, an attorney, who was subsequently stripped from his honorary position because it is alleged that he stood up for the Jamaican woman.
NationNews.com March 27, 2011
Meanwhile, the Foreign Affairs Minister [of Jamaica] is refuting reports that Marlon Gordon, the Jamaican Honorary Consul to Barbados, was removed because of his staunch defense of Jamaicans in Barbados. A report in Friday’s Jamaica Observer newspaper, quoted Gordon as saying that he resigned in January because the Barbados government was not receptive to his complaints. But Baugh, speaking on a radio programme said, “that story is not in harmony with what I understand. “We appointed him to be our Honorary Council in Barbados and he was not approved and when we inquired, we learnt the reason why and there were other reasons which I will not go into. I read the article in the Observer and it had nothing to do with that at all, there were other reasons,” he said
See my point. One source says Marlon Gordon said he was sacked from his job (in January 2011) for standing up for Jamaicans in Barbados. Another source claims he was sacked for standing up for Ms. Myrie (in March 2011). Another source says Mr. Gordon was not sacked for anything having to do with standing up for Jamaicans. A member of the Jamaican government refuted him on a radio station in Jamaica!!! You can’t believe everything you read folks.
Dessalines, you country is developed because you have unrestricted access to our Jamaican market. Do you know how many Barbadians are living in Jamaica? No Barbadians, Trinidadian, Antiguan etc. can say they were ever mistreated while in Jamaica.
Whether you believe it or not Jamaica is CARICOM’s largest market. We sell your products in hundreds of Jamaican stores all over the UK and North America.
This wound won’t be healed anytime soon. We are calling on the boycott of all Barbados products and services in Jamaica.
@Africanus … I have no idea of Antiguan products being sold in Jamaica or in Jamaican stores worldwide. Please enlighten me. As to the boycott…shouldnt you wait until the outcome of the investigation on both sides?. It is premature to me. Frankly I do believe that the Ms Myrie was a stripper/prostitute going to Barbados to ply her trade, got caught in her lies and was deported. She then fabricated the story to get back at the Bajan authorities.
so you were assaulted and the first place you run is to the media? not your local police but the media. interesting. i really hope this gets the full attention of the police and is investigated in its entirety
Dessalines, our targets are Barbados’ goods and services.
Since the story of this woman was published other Jamaicans, white and black, have come forward to share their stories.
What these stories have shown is that BARBADIANS have a deep-seated hatred for the Jamaican people.
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A Tale Woe In Barbados
I am a born Jamaican national, who has been living in the United States for the past 22 years. I have visited Barbados on a number of occasions. I would go there because I honestly fell in love with the island and I have a lot of Bajan friends who live in the US.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/letters/A-tale-of-woe-in-Barbados_8581598
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/letters/A-tale-of-woe-in-Barbados_8581598#ixzz1HrK7NbHF
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Jamaican student attacked in Barbados
published: Monday | March 27, 2006
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20060327/news/news4.html
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‘Barbadians are the ones lying’
They humiliated and searched me like I was an animal, says J’can woman who complained of horrific cavity search
BY KARYL WALKER Online News Editor walkerk@jamaicaobserver.com
Sunday, March 27, 2011
Ian Francis
3/27/2011
“22 years ago I was part of a sports team that represented J’ca in Barbados. The majority of us were white, but 2 teammates were not – when their host family saw who they were hosting, these Bajans abandoned them at the airport at 11 PM with nowhere to stay. Fortunately, a cousin of my mother (who was married to a black Bajan) was at the airport & kindly took them in for the duration of the competition.
Most Bajans are racist to their core and DO NOT LIKE JAMAICANS-ignore them. “
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Barbadians-are-the-ones-lying_8588601#ixzz1HrL3scY5
Barbadians are a lot like President Barack Obama. People are always attacking him from all sides, but he always manages to stay one step ahead of his attackers and continues to move forward despite all of the attempts to sabotage him. We Bajans will continue to move forward, because we have a plan and a vision for what we want for ourselves and our country. We will not be deterred by haters. The only thing that can destroy us is if we stay in CARICOM and allow large numbers of CARICOM nationals with different ideas, agendas, and behavioral characteristics to migrate to Barbados and impose their self destructive lifestyles on Bajan society.
Myrie claimed the immigration woman officer removed her badge before the cavity search. Do immigration and cutoms officers wear badges? Anyone?
WTH…come on folks do better than this!!!!. As a Jamaican I am disgusted with the comments of the Bajans. Are your minds so small that you cannot think global? Jamaica is the largest market for your goods, if that changes do you not think that it will affect your economy?
Jamaica and Jamaicans made the world stop and remember about other small Islands. Keep it up and we shall see how far it takes you all. Say what you want to say and guess what we shall overcome. No more Shirley Biscuits etc will be paid for with my money. And may I add, I don’t know why on earth a Jamaican would want to visit your little hole called Island? we have far better than you all can dream of. We are the 8th wonder of the world…take that to the bank and if you don’t like it bite it!!!! Please send back all Jamaicans we need to stop supporting, going even remembering Barbados.
Hundreds of callers and txt messages to my radio show here in Jamaica voice their outrage at this blatant disrespect for a human being. Even if she is what d Bajans are making here to be? Is this the correct way to go about it. The boycott of bajans products is in full swing. 99% of my listeners say that they are not purchasing Bajan Products until justice is done. I visited a number of supermarkets and the owners told me that most of the confectionaries frm Barbados are not moving. Let them stay there and rot. I use to buy the biscuits and other products. I switch to our neighbour the USA products. check the geography, Jamaica is far closer to the USA than Barbados. A tourist told me yesterday that he was visiting Jamaica 12 times, I asked him if he ever travel to Barbados, he asked me where in Greece that is. I don’t know what our Govt is waiting on to get out of this so call Caribbean Integration that have no respect for our nationals. Jamaica allows $65 million us dollars worth of goods from Barbados duty free under Caricom while we export only 28 millions us dollars to Barbados. 280,000 market which Is the population of Barbados is not viable, we need to get out.
Wait hold on tho peeps…. I am not putting my head on a block for a boy but seriously this story is way too sensational. Those who are taking up arms and running with this need to take a step back and examine everything. If this is true, I hope the involved parties are dealt with to the full extent of the law, but also realize that if it is proven to be false this will damage Barbados’ reputation and also cause backlash to Jamaicans who are on the island as well as any looking to visit our rock…. People need to THINK about their actions and words because in the end they could come back and bite you in the ass….
Am sure a nothing less than a FULL investigation is being carried out..
Kerisa,
I read the Jamaica Gleaner from time to time. I know from reading it that quite a few Jamaican women have been brutally stabbed and shot to death in Jamaica in recent weeks. It doesn’t look to me like Jamaican women are held in high esteem in Jamaica. They are slaughtered right along with men in the unrelenting blood letting that is going on in Jamaica.
I think Jamaicans would be better off focusing on trying to eradicate some of the gangs and reducing the number of guns entering the country than focusing on boycotting Barbados. I was shocked when I saw an entire community of people rallying around that drug thug Dudus recently. I was even more shocked to learn that your Prime Minister might have connections to Dudus. When a country reaches a point where entire communities rally around drug dealers and people at the highest levels of the government are also involved with them, the country is in serious trouble.
Go ahead and boycott Barbados if you want to, but that is not going to solve your most pressing problems. If I were a Jamaican woman, I would rather take my chances in Barbados than in a gang, drug, and crime infested neighborhood in Jamaica. You couldn’t pay many of the Jamaicans living in Barbados any amount of money to return to Jamaica. They are going to ignore folks like you and keep living in the relatively safe paradise known as Barbados.
Al Robinson
March 28, 2011 at 5:15 am
Hundreds of callers and txt messages to my radio show here in Jamaica voice 99% of my listeners say that they are not purchasing Bajan Products until justice is done. I visited a number of supermarkets and the owners told me that most of the confectionaries frm Barbados are not moving. Let them stay there and rot. I use to buy the biscuits and other products,
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Good, so we should not buy Jamaican products either, and we import a lot…up to now. Better buy the foreign products too, better quality and clean. Besides, bajans jams etc are much better now, not the big lotta preservative and so on that in the Jamaican.
seems to me that al robinson et al have an anti bajan agenda and just needed a sensational report to justify it. calling for a boycott of our goods and ban travelling here. before a shred of evidence to the claim is brought forth.
initial investigations showed glaring contradictions she made on entry as well as the story corroborated by rickrisha rowe (about the breast fondling that was never added to the report by myrie) we as bajan ppl demand a full investigation in order to clear our name so ppl like al robinson can eat humble pie and return to his talk show and apologise for jumping the gun and so easily be duped by his own countrywoman.
Jamaicans have paved the way for our docile Caribbean brothers and sisters to be accepted in the UK and North America.
Your island is the size of one of our 14 parishes. It is for this reason that during slavery Barbados and had no other option but to obey their slave masters. This kind of attitude has it advances and disadvantages. The disadvantage is that after the emancipation of slavery, of all Caribbean people Bajons were the ones found most docile for King Leopold of Belgium to trick back into slavery. In the 1800s when King Leopold was looking for a bunch of docile, naïve laborers to abuse he sent for a bunch (maybe 400) of Bajons. He chose Bajons because you have always obeyed your slave master. When those Bajons got to the King Leopold’s Congo, Africa, they immediately realized that they were tricked. They tried to protest on the docked and I think one was killed. The rest was immediately loaded like cattle onto a train and taken to the interior and returned to slavery in modern time. Do you think this could ever happen to a bunch of Jamaicans?
Now, given the level of violence in Jamaica do you think that if Jamaicans really hate you, you could be safe in Jamaica? Why it is your island is so peaceful and yet you are the ones abusing my people?
Anyway inspite of your contempt for Jamaicans, I cannot find it in my heart to hate you. We Jamaicans will never be as petty as you small minded Bajons.
One Love.
u spew your venom and then end it with “one love” and “bless”
how humorous.
if at the end of all this it was PROVEN that the lady involved is a liar, what will all you jamaicans who jump the gun say? one love?
If looking for a vacation (in the sun), Barbados is not the place to visit, imagine yourself, mother, sister, daughter or any female subjected to a “CAVITY SEARCH” from a non-medical staff at a airport. UMMMM! NO! I cannot begin to imagine that, just the thought of it repulse me. “SAY NO TO BARBADOS”.
Please see the above which I will get out there via the social media. Until an apology is made to Ms Myrie.
Anonymouse By Choice,
On this thread, you have lectured “The Man Wiv No Name” aka Bimbro (maybe) about how wrong it is to promote bigotry and to paint a whole group of people with one brush.
Please go to the thread called “Barbados Immigration officer: Evil? Misogynist? Racist? Stupid? You Decide” on this website and see what you said about Bajans. On that thread, you claimed you were a White woman from Canada. I told you then I doubted that is what you are and still doubt it today.
There is a lot of venom spewing.. as a christian wait for a full investigation. History has been that allegations are made to discredit people, but when the truth comes out and the damage is done.. what comes next is a simple apology. eg. many people were placed on death rowe because of a lie (Ray krone 2002 case) Caribbean is too small for this. Boycott barbados products all you want, but when one door closes another will open. If it revealed that CIO did wrong she should be given the full extent of the law, sending a message to others not to abuse their authority. For now LET PEACE REIGN. I travel with a lot of them on Metro North.. it is an ugly sight when they get on the cell phones, cussing their own people in jamaica. Bajan living in the US.
Heard on the radio today:
Strip searches in Barbados are done with two immigration (or is it customs?) officers of the same gender as the suspect present. The suspect is asked to remove his (or her) clothes and to squat. The suspect is NOT touched by the officers. Body cavity searches are NOT done at the airport but are done at the hospital by a physician.
Now this does not prove or disprove Myrie’s allegations but at least citizens and bloggers now know what are the authorized procedures if (like me) they did not know before.
From now on these are the actions:
1)Check for all products “MADE IN BARBADOS.
2) make note of the expiration date then shove them aside.
3) Call the Consumer Affairs Commission of Jamaica. They are vigilant and do not allow expired goods for even a day. Don’t forget to let them know that they are Bajans goods, they will understand and urgently clear them to Riverton City dump or the closest that are spread out across the Country.
4) We will start enjoying Bajan goods again after a full apology from their government to Ms Myrie.
5) support our other Caribbean brothers & sisters. Look for goods made in Dominica, oh I love their products. Buy goods made in St. Lucia, Trinidad, (Ja & TT are partners in Air Jamaica.). Don’t forget Guyana, they can give Barbados land space for free. We are the largest purchaser of Guyanese rice and they respect their fellow West Indians.
6) Buy lots of products from our neighbour the USA. they are closer to us than Barbados.
7) WARNING: if you are a female don’t go there unless you want a finger up your Vagina. Male? Worse!
AFTER A FULL APOLOGY WE WILL AMEND WITH OUR ONCE CARIBBEAN COMRADE.
My listeners are responding 100% which is more than everyone in Barbados many times.
Carol Boeth
March 28, 2011 at 3:32 pm
If looking for a vacation (in the sun), Barbados is not the place to visit, imagine yourself, mother, sister, daughter or any female subjected to a “CAVITY SEARCH” from a non-medical staff at a airport.
…better than a ‘deep cavity search’ by a thug in downtown kingston, held down by four others, all holding guns. So, Jamaica not the place to go either it seems.
Al Robinson
March 28, 2011 at 5:10 pm
My listeners are responding 100% which is more than everyone in Barbados many times….
that okay, what demographic of Jamaicans are your ‘listeners’, I bet all from downtown kingston, none from better jamaican neighbourhoods…
see in barbaods we recognise that quality better than quality….obviously you do not…
by the way, ”Trinidad, (Ja & TT are partners in Air Jamaica.)”….at least now T&T and Jca cooperate in the air, unlike the time when the butter knife come out..and the saviour hand had to get stitched, but then he was from a better broughtupsy side of Jca….save Jca bad publicity there…caused by temper tantrum as usual…
tut, tut
@Al Robinson
Question 1: Why make note of the expiration date if you’re going to throw Bajan products them in the dump?
Question 2: Will you have security at those dumps to ensure those who frequent the dump will also boycott Bajan products?
Question 3: How stupid would you feel if it turns out that Miss Myrie’s story is a fabricated one?
I agree that if the story is a true one, heads should roll and apologies be sent to all those concerned…..
baje gem you wasting your time. i come to the conclusion that Al robinson is an alarmist jack ass.
I think it is a very great idea for the Jamaicans to boycott Barbadian products. This is showing and telling us Bajans, to think positive in a negative situation and to continue to grow and suceed, we know that we have the brain power, talent and people to do it, FULL SPEED AHEAD. Always continue to be strong my fellow Barbadian Sisters and Brothers in Jesus Name. We can, without a doubt accomplish things that we haven’t even done before, continue to be Positive do not focus on negative, evil doers, we know who we are in Jesus, and do not ever be intimated, bullied, and have fear of what man can say and even do. Stay on the right path, do not pay any attention to any kind of bad from anyone, this is a really good thing. Think about it, these things happen to teach us all vital lessons of life, and how we are supposed to better ourselves and each other. So, please Barbadians do not be negative anymore, pray and bless our enemies and friends, do not be like others that choice to be bad. Use our Brians, Intelligence; Wisdom; Strength; Power, to solve our problems, stop fighting with people and anything that you cannot change, that only God himself can change. Just continue what we have always be doing, despite the meaness of others, focus on the good future that with only God we can and will have. Stop responding to negative people that don’t have any means to want to make human kind and this world any better for themselves and others.
@ Oh Come On
You’re right…I was bored!! Lunch break over, back to work!
asafa powell, usain bolt, sanya richards, veronica campbell, merlene ottey, the host of track stars courtney walsh, bob marley, shaggy, sean paul, sean kingston, jimmy cliff the host of music stars jamaica netball team, the bobsled team, the first black man to fly solo around the world, marcus garvey, condelesa rice, colin powell, 50 cent, shaquille oneal, tyson beckford, NAOMI CAMPBELL, busta rhymes, harry belafonte, sheryl lee ralph, david paterson, patrick ewing, louis farakhan, NOTORIOUS BIG, ERNIE SMITH, HEAVY D, OLIVIA, PRETTY RICKY, CAMILLE MCDONALD, DAVID REIVERS, SHARI BELAFONTE, CORBON BLEU, CLAUDE MCKAY, CHILI DAVIS, DEVON WHITE, BEN GORDON, SANDRA DENTON, check a lot of america black stars whether politions, track, music or movie star have jamaican blood in them, the first non american girl to win the american speeling bee since 1971 jodian maxwell GUESS WHAT!!!JAMAICA WAS VOTED THE 3RD KOOLEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!!! JAMAICA WAS THE FIRST COUNTRY IN THE WEST INDIES TO GO THE FOOTBALL WORLD CUP!!! DID YOU ALL WATCH THE OLYMPICS AND THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP WOWWWWW!!!! ELIZABETH TAYLOR LOVED JAMAICA BEFORE SHE DIED UNFORTUNATELY SHE EVEN BOUGHT A PIECE OF LAND HERE JAMAICA IS LOVED BY MANY C HOW OUR ACCENT IS COOL EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD LOVE IT (KARTEL VOICE OH!, AWHOIEE, AHAHA) I KNOW YOU U ALL LOVE OUR MUSIC, REGARDLESS OF THE BAD THINGS U TALK ABOUT IT, AND U NO WAT U JUST LOVE THE SLACK ONES DONT YA! TALK ABOUT OUR FOOD IN AMERICA, CANADA, UK WE HAVE OUR OWN FOOD PRODUCT ROW IN SUPERMARKETS, U NO HOW THE WORLD LOVE OUR JERK CHICKEN AND OUR RED STRIPE BEER, WE JAMAICANS GOT IT GOIN ON Y’ALL WE ROCK!!!! PLEASE DONT GRUDGE WE, DONT ENVY WE, WE R A POOR COUNTRY STILL RECOVERING FROM SLAVERY, YES WE HAVE A CRIME PROBLEM JUST LIKE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND GUESS WAT U TALKING CRAP ABOUT MY COUNTRY WONT STOP THE MILLIONS OF TOURIST COMING IN 2011! SPRING BREAK NEGRIL A WEH THE TING DEH WE GO PARTY ATI WEEKEND MI SEH!!!! JAMAICA HAVE NO PROBLEM MAN PEACE!!!!! JAH BLESS!!!! JAMAICA LAND WE LOVE CWAN STOP WE!!!!!!!! STAY TUNED TO THE BOYS ANG GIRLS ATHLETICS CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR UNUH AGO C MANY USAIN BOLT DOUBLE (LAUGH AFFA BADMIND HEHEH, LAUGH AFTA AGAIN WEH DEM GRUDGE WI FA FRIEND CAUSE WI ALOT TALENT)
@ Africanus
…Your island is the size of one of our 14 parishes. It is for this reason that during slavery Barbados and had no other option but to obey their slave masters. …
This may be true, but how many schools are in your parishes? We have eleven (small, tiny) parishes. However, I can assure you that each parish has in at least four (FREE) schools. And yes, we obeyed our slave masters anf went to school; hence our literacy level.
@ Al Robinson
Just curious what would happen or what would you say to you listeners if it is proven that she is lying?????
Should she then come out and apologise to Barbadians???
Lets hope that the truth will come out of this investigation so stop spreading your hated on a Bajan blog without first having all the facts. You were not there not one of us was in that room so we cant say for sure what happened and what did not happen.
Its sad that some people on here seem to think at ALL Bajans hate Jamaican you should say SOME and what is even more sad is that some of these people making these statements seem to have never been to barbados….. so how would you know HEAR SAY????. Its ridiculous to base your opinion on what someone else says and no experience of your own because in that case if everyone went on hear say about what happens in Jamaica then you would not have such high numbers of tourist you boosted about in one of your former posts.
Point being that you should not base your view of every person in a country because of the actions of a few.
I am a BAJAN and i dont hate anyone nor am i jealous i have come into contact with some jamacian men and women and have had no problems with them. I have honestly never heard anyone around me at home at work or any of the schools i went to (which by the way had some Jamaican students) saying that they dont like Jamacian so that is news to me.
Are the many reggae artists who frequently come to Barbados and perform to large and appreciative audiences going to stay away from Barbados? There is a big show carded for May 01. I wonder what are the opinions of the 53, 100 (fifty three thousand and one hundred) Jamaicans who visited Barbados between 2008 and 2010?
calling disgrace on my country telling the world about our crime situation the bible speaks about it, the crime, the national disasters, war and guess what barbados is no exemption from the devil we call satan, i am encouraging the world to pray for my country Jamaica, barbados might not have a high crime rate but the devil is everywhere, to all of my jamaican stop now stop the arguing too much tourist r coming to jamaica and they r doing everything in there power to scare them so that they can come to there country DEM A GO HARD ON THE ADVERTISEMENT ON CABLE! TALK ABOUT OUR CRIMINAL BACKGROUND ONE DAY YOU R GOING TO MESS WITH THE WRONG JAMAICAN CONTINUE TO TREAT US LIKE MONGREL DOGS BECAUSE JAMAICANS R PEDEGREE A WI NUH FRAID A NUH BODY WE R ALL BLACK PEOPLE AND BECAUSE U HAVE LOW CRIME RATE, HIGH LITERACY UNUH THINK UNUH A ROYALTY CAN TREAT PEOPLE LIKE DOG, THERE MIGHT NOT B ALOT OF MURDERS IN BARBADOS BUT AM SURE THAT THEY R RAPIST, THEIVES, DRUG DEALERS, EXTORTIONIST, HUMAN TRAFFICKERS (LOL) AND TERRORIST DOWN THERE DONT PRETEND LIKE UNUH PERFECT LEAVE MY JAMAICAN PEOPLE ALONE AND STOP TREAT DEM LIKE THIS U MIGHT NT B MURDERS BUT U SURE R THE LIVING DEVIL
I think we need to finish this foolish talk and move along. We black people have too much history to continue with this “crab in a barrel mentality”.
To all Caribbean peoples we Bajans love Wunna!!!!
@ILOVEBLAHBLAHJAMAICA …LOL an impressive list of accomplishments or should I say vicarious conditioning which plagues Jamaicans nationals…lets work on the others now, like for example where we small islands that can fit in one parish rank out of 182 countries worldwide
GDP per capita
Bahamas 32nd Barbados 43rd Antigua 46th Jamaica?86th (your ahead of Burkina Faso)
Human Development Index (Standard of Living index)
Bahamas 32nd – Barbados 37th – Antigua 47th – Jamaica 104th (did you send all the food to the supermarkets in the UK and Canada?)
Literacy rates (ability to read and write)
Barbados 5th Antigua 21st St. Kitts Nevis 54th Jamaica 115 (you beat Lesotho be proud )
No cause for alarm anyway your still No. 1 in the world in inferiority complex syndrome as evident with rampant skin bleaching culture, No. 1 in crime, No. 1 in garrison politics, No. 1 in economic immigrant refugees (yes you beat Haiti)
The saying ‘to whom much is given much is expected’ is totally lost on you ‘dont it’?
@Human: Have you been reading the comments from the beginning? After all the disparaging and prejudicial remarks coming from a few non-Jamaicans in this forum it is easy presume that we are not viewed in high regard in Barbados and Antigua (yes, some insect got involve in this fowl fight, yes I am referring to you, Dessalines). One would think that most Jamaicans are poverty stricken, uneducated, nefarious – involved in crimes ranging from the poisoning of tourist to prostitution and drug smuggling. No doubt Jamaicans are going to assume a defensive posture. n.b. there are more Jamaicans with computers and cell phones with access to the internet whose comments would drown out the anti-Jamaican ones on this or any other blog if seriously motivated to do. How can you assume that she is involved prostitution? And obviously she was not found with drugs or she would’ve been arrested. Is it customary for prostitutes to be probed vaginally in Barbados? Do you know how many of your tourists are escorts/call girls who visit Barbados with their clients on an annual basis? Are they violated upon entry to the island by overzealous government officers who like many others worldwide are drunk with power and authority? Do you think they would willingly admit such an horrid act? Do you think the Governments of Barbados and Jamaica is not aware of the diplomatic, commercial and political implications of this incident? The safety concerns of their respective citizens in either country is also a priority. Any government would love to bury a story about a tourist being criminally assaulted in that manner by agents of the state and Ms. Myrie is not backing down. The Government of Jamaica cannot ignore this, even if they could, because of the present political climate in the country if you have been keeping up with events here. Barbados need to produce that agent rather than cover up. Ms. Myrie can easily identify the accused and there should be a list of all who were assigned to work on that specific day. It is a police/legal matter. It – is – not – going – to – go – away. How would you feel if you or your’s was subjected to such violation?
correction (you’re ahead of Burkina Faso)
If ever there was a good time for Barbados to switch to the LARGE bloc of countries known as the Union of South American Nations now is it……. Heck Guyana and Suriname already joined…. Leave CARICOM right there….
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations
CARICOM will never work.
15 nations.
Britain seems unwilling to allow Montserrat to join the single market (with free movement) because people can move to Montserrat and use that as a backdoor to become British/EU citizens. So that leaves 14 nations.
Bahamas have problems with illegal immigration from Haiti so they don’t like free-movement provisions either.
So that brings ‘committed countries’ total down to 13.
Guyana and Suriname already join the Union of South American Nations. So that drops the total down to 11. Belize is moving ahead and deepening ties with the Central American bloc.
So now is 10 nations…….
Trinidad and Tobago said they don’t want to be no ATM. So that leaves 9. Which is what? Barbados and the OECS??
Well all them OECS nations are already committed to Venezuela and that nation’s ALBA/PetroCaribe bloc. So that leaves just BARBADOS as the committed one….
Now who’s the smartest in the region????
Ohhh yeah. Haiti is in there too. But- can Barbados afford to keep Haiti’s economy afloat with the level of poverty there? Not bashing just calling it as it is.
@ DESSILINE BARBARIAN I PUT OUT THE LIST OF JAMAICAN ACCOMPLISHMENTS BECAUSE U PEOPLE R MAKING IT LOOK LIKE THE ONLY THING WE R GOOD FOR IS INVOLVING IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES THATS ALL THE ACHEIVEMENTS YOU HAVE I DONT C IT HAD AN EFFECT ON THIS WORLD WITH THE LITERACY I THOUGHT YOU BAJANS WOULD FIND THE CURE FOR AIDS AND CANCER A LONG TIME AGO AND CREATE A VARIOUS TYPES OF INVENTION THAT WOULD AID IN MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE (UR THE ONES BRAGGING ABT IT UR LITERACY) AND IT PAINS U 2 C OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS RIGHT POOR THING, NOW IF U LIST RIHANNA THEN UR TALKING PEEEACCCCCCCCCCCCE!!!!!!!
LL COOL J; MEGAN GOOD; STACEY DASH; ERIC HOLDER–US ATTORNEY GENERAL, OBAMA ADMINISTRATION; DOUG E FRESH; GRANDMASTER FLASH; AMBER ROSE; LAMMAN RUCKER; ALISON HINDS; RYAN LESLIE; SHONTELLE; MELYSSA FORD; AUTURO TAPPIN; JADA PINKETT SMITH; AUSTIN CLARKE; GEORGE LAMMING; SHIRLEY CHRISHOLM; ADRIAN FENTY; RIHANNA; AFRIKA BAMBAATAA; GWEN IFILL; CUBA GOODING JR & OMAR GOODING; MARI MARROW. There is an extreme amount of Celebrities, Politicians, Athletes, Writers, Journalists that all have Barbadian blood, there are so numerous to name them all here, even JULIAN MARLEY’s mother is Bajan. Early Barbadians also founded the States of North & South Carolina, that is why their are so many families that are tracing their roots right back to Barbados today. Also the Cities of Austin, Texas, Charleston, South Carolina, and the lists goes on.
UR
1. BADMIND
1. JEALOUS
1. ENVY
1.GRUDGEFUL
BAJANS DONT BLEACH? U CWAN GET BROWN, U CWAN GET BROWN UNUH COULDA BUY EVRY CAKE SOUP INNA TOWN A BET UNUH A BUY CAKE SOAP, IF UNUH CWAN BUY DEM UNUH MUST HAVE A FACTORY ALREADY
YES WE HAVE A HIGN CRIME RATE DESSALINE BUT A SATAN CWAN DO NUTTEN ABOUT IT MRS BADMIND.
AT LEAST WE HAVE SEVERAL GREAT ACADEMIC ACHEIVERS WITH LOW LITERACY RATE U HAVE A HIGH ONE AND STILL NOT MAKING ANY SUBSTANCIAL IMPACT ON THIS WORLD DO SOMTHING FIND A CURE
AND AM A NORMAL GIRL I CAME THIS WEBSITE AND I JUST HAVE TO DEFEND MY COUNTRY JUST LIKE UR DEFENDING YOURS MAM
AGAIN I HAVE TO DEFEND MY COUNTRY BECAUSE U GUYS ARE MAKING IT LOOK LIKE WE R ONLY FOR CRIME THATS Y I PUT THE LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENT GOT THAT!!!!!!! WHAT A WAY IT AFFECT UNUH IT HURTS MI SORRY!!! UNUH REALY BADMIND FI REAL
One can easily assume she is a prostitute. She fits the profile – travel alone – staying with someone they dont know personally – bleached skin – hair weave – tattooed skin – occupation ‘hair stylist or nail tech etc. We have 1000s of Jamaican strippers/prostitutes in Antigua. They are unemployed at home and lie to immigration here saying they are self employed (nail technicians, hair stylists, dress maker) and that they come on vacation (from what I dont know) After vacation time (3 weeks ) is up they apply for an ‘extension’ so they can work as a ‘bar maid’ or ‘housemaid’ or ‘security guard’ usually facilitated by some resident pimp or madame. They then end up on a bar counter dancing nekked as they born being ‘fingered’ by all and sundry for $5 (visit Wendy’s or Diamond Ice whenever you’re in Antigua) If the patron like what they feel or smell they are taken to a back room where they are serviced for a fee. I know your sense of pride is hurt to hear this but your country women for the most part are whores who travel the ‘small islands’ selling their bodies for sex. Not all I must add, but the problem is such that our Security Minister as recent as last week, raised the alarm in the media about JA/GT nationals turning to prostitution in even larger numbers due to the downturn in the economy. That’s the honest truth. I am not making this up.
PS If Ms Myrie turns out to be a bank teller or accountant who was violated by officialdom in BIM, I will be the first to apologize in writing to her and all Jamaicans in general.
I think the Jamaican government is being HYPOCRITES…….considering it does the same somewhat……….but to 12 year old girls !!!!!!!!!
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http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110217/lead/lead4.html
“The Airports Authority of Jamaica is investigating a mother’s claim that her 12-year-old daughter’s privacy was violated at Kingston-located Norman Manley International Airport’s security checkpoint.
The mother, who The Gleaner has chosen not to name to protect her daughter’s identity, filed a complaint with the Airports Authority, noting that a female security officer asked the child to remove her pants and underwear following an upper-body pat-down search.
In her email to Lieutenant Commander John McFarlane, director of aviation security, the mother wrote: “(The officer) then questioned her about her menses, then told her to reclothe herself.”
The mother, who expressed shock and concern, said her daughter experienced embarrassment and trauma.
“I would like to prevent this so it doesn’t happen to another minor,” she told The Gleaner yesterday. “If I was there, you would read about me being locked up.”
The child was travelling on an early Monday morning flight to Fort Lauderdale with her father and a relative.
“My daughter’s father asked if he could be with her and the officer told him no. When my cousin asked, as she is a woman, she was also told no.
“It was when the officer saw (my daughter’s) sanitary pad in her panty that she asked her to put her clothes back on,” the mother said.”
@ILOVEJAMAICA For me to be jealous or envious or grudging of anything or anyone – at first they need to have something that I want or have accomplished something that I cant. Jamaica/Jamaicans have nothing Antiguans want. Our currency is stronger than yours, our education is better (and free ) relative low crime rate, our passports gets us all over the world visa free etc. How many Antiguans are living in Jamaica or would want to live in Jamaica. 5 or 6? How many Jamaicans are flocking to Antigua for the high quality of life – between 6 to 11 thousand. Whose lifestyle is more attractive Antigua (10 000 Jamaicans ) or Jamaica (10 Antiguans) .
Also, watch for an upcoming episode of the NBC show Who Do You Think You Are? I beleive it’s on this week. Actress Gwyneth Paltrow traces her ancestors to Barbados, so take a look.
FINALLY U REVEAL THE REAL REASON BEHIND WHAT IS GOING ON LOL!!!!OH I C THIS THING IS ABOUT JAMAICAN WOMEN LOL!!!
MRS DESSALINE MAM I NO PEOPLE WHO BLEACH, WHERE WIG, WHERE TATOOS WHO R HIGHLY EDUCATED AN R DECENT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
OK BCAUSE OF THE WAY SHE LOOK GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO TREAT HER LIKE THAT! U R A VERY BIAS PERSON YOU SEEM TO HAVE HATRED FOR JAMAICAN WOMEN, U R THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO WILL JUDGE ANOTHER BCAUSE OF THERE APPARENTS
R U SAYIN THERE IS NO PROSTITUTE ANTIJAMICUANS OK, R U SAYIN THAT THE ONLY SET OF PEOPLE WHO R INVOLVE IN PROSTITUTION IN THE ISLANDS R JAMAICAN WOMEN (THEY R NO BAJAN OR ANTIGUAN PROSTITUTES) IS THAT WHAT U R SAYIN OK MAM
AND I GUESS U GUYS DONT BLEACH, WEAR TATOO OR WEAR WIG
I NOW CONFIRM U ENVY JAMAICAN WOMEN
JUST DEFENDING MY JAMAICAN WOMEN WHOM MEN IN THE ISLANDS LOVE SO DARELY LOL
I GET UR HUSBAND HAD A HIT WITH A JAMAICAN GIRL THAT Y U DNT LIKE HUH
I LOVE MY COUNTRY JAMAICA AN I LOVE TO BLAH BLAH AND DEFEND IT BCAUSE I AM PRAYING EVRYDAY SO THAT GOD CAN SAVE US SO THAT BADMIND PEOPLE LIKE UNUH CWAN STOP ENVY US
JAMAICAN LAND WE LOVE
Bjans r certainly idiots proof right here in this forum. Let us sit back n watch your tourism deplete unthil a public apolopy is givem by govt.
@I LOVE MY COUNTRY BARBADOS: If you are a Black Barbadian the only thing you have in common with Gwyneth Paltrow is that your ancestor was once your massa.
@Des’cucaracha: Your country must have such an amazing appetite for sex that you would need to import such unpalatable prostitutes from Jamaica. If your stats are correct your tiny island must be one big red light district. Is it that your women are so horribly grotesque and incapable of providing satisfaction to their males? How can the problem Jamaica if there is such a huge demand for prostitutes exists in Antigua?
Please note the days of offshore money is over? no more money laundering and tax-evasion (ask the BVI) and tourism is such a fickle enterprise as there are so many more attractive destinations than the Caribbean that play Russian-roulette every hurricane season. Trinidad is no longer a ATM so who will Antigua seek help from if faced with a natural disaster. We are all in the same boat on that one. Go easy and don’t get too enthusiastic.
CORRECTION: @I LOVE MY COUNTRY BARBADOS: If you are a Black Barbadian the only thing you have in common with Gwyneth Paltrow is that her ancestor was once your massa. FYI…MANY JAMAICANS CAN TRACE THEIR ANCESTRY TO BARBADOS AND VISA VERSA…chill
That woman is a bold face liar !Don’t bluff !I challenged you to come back to Bdos and identify the woman,then and only then,would the whole caribbean know the truth.You would never come back to Bdos,for fear of being EXPOSED AND SUED FOR FALSE ACCUSATIONS !
@michael: …and what if she does? and what if she is truthful?
I strongly believe she is a prostitute who was upset that she could’t join her partner, who as we say in Bdos ‘pick fares on Bay St.’
THIS IS THE PROBLEM MICHEAL IT IS NOT JUS MISS MYRIE IS A HOLD LOT OF JAMAICANS WHO R SAYING THEY HAVE BEEN VERBALLY ABUSE BY THE IMMIGRATION OFFICERS IN BARBADOS U THINK ITS ONLY MISS MYRIE Y WE JAMAICANS R ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATING U GUYS HAVE BEEN SO UNFAIR TO US JAMAICANS FOR YEARS, WE R LETTING OUR VOICE B HEARD THAT IT MUST STOP U WANT EVIDENTS GO ON YOUTUBE AND LISTEN TO BABBZY SHE WILL GIVE U THE EVIDENTS AND GUESS WAT SHE IS A BARBADIAN!!!!! WANT SOMEONE TO SUE! SUE BABBZY I GUESS SHE IS MAKING FALSE ACCUSATION TOOO UNUH REALLY IN DENIAL STOP IT!!!!!!!
@Doctor Suss!She would never come back,I guarantee you that!Remember,a LIAR MUST HAVE A GOOD MEMORY to start with.Here in Bdos,there is a plan afoot ,to prove once and for all ,that she was NOT fingered !
I GUESS BABBZY ON YOUTUBE IS A LIAR TOO, SHE SEEM TO HAVE A GOOD MEMORY AND SHE IS A BARBADIAN SHE IS EVIDENTS!!! GO SUE HER, LOOK AT (JUNIOR REID MANAGER) TELL DEM TO INVESTIGATE DAT TO AN STOP BEEN IN DENIAL UNUH CRAZY BAD!!!
@Anonymous !The topic is not verbal abuse.Bajans too, have been verbally abused in other countries as well,so has Antiguans,St.Lucians,Guyanese and others.,but our women have never stooped so low as to say that they had been fingered after being denied entry into another country.
From Barbados Free Press to Readers: Attention Please
Please stop yelling IN ALL CAPS.
1/ It’s very rude.
2/ Nobody reads it all the way through because it is so difficult.
Thankyou,
Robert
@michael: a plan afoot to doctor the logs and reassign or send the accused overseas on vacation…don’t worry there is a thing called karma…if she is lying she will get hers and if the b’bdos govt. cover up the mess well u will read about it on barbadosfreepress.com one day….either way there will be a conclusion to this vagina war
Maybe her thought of losing out on a mimimum of 60 bucks a client got to her head.Here in Bdos we too have our share of Bajan prostitutes,but I have never heard of any one of them being deported from other countries for prostitution.Guyanese,Trinis and Jamaicans top the list,and on arrival come up with a lot of fancy stories,only to be seen in the red light districts,day and night.
And I will continue to love my country Bdos, TOO !Our Immigration Officers are too PROUD to put their fingers into women to search for drugs.If that is the norm over there,it certainly is not over here !You Jamaicans have been known to have conceal drugs in your body cavities.You have been known to have swallowed drugs , and bring them in juices,furniture and so on,into Bdos.
Furthermore as you Jamaicans continue to have a serious drug problem in and out of Jamaica,I am 100% certain that at the Air and Sea Ports,they are personnel stationed there to carry out body searches on ANYBODY ,who they are suspicious of.,and those searches include vaginal and anal.Refute that Doctor Suss and Anonymous!
even the bjan man dem grudge jamaican women to my word!!!! yes micheal i now no that bjan really dispise jamaicans thank you for telling us, you jamaicans right all of us r drug dealers! what a something. and all jamaica women r prostitutes dessalines call jamaican women whores! am going to blog in my country cant beleive this, poor jamaica land we love thank u bp. we now get the chance to see how some bjans feel about jamaica. to all of my beautiful jamaican women hold ur head high listen to kartel (its like a movie gal u a star d show).
Jamaicans are trailblazers
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John Russwurm
“…Russwurm was not a native of America. Born in Jamaica on October 1, 1799, he moved to Quebec as a child and then to Maine, where he attended Bowdoin College and wrote term papers on Toussaint L‘Ouverture, fiery leader of the Haitian Revolution. In 1826 Russwurm became only the second African American in the U.S. to earn a college degree.”
Joined with another african american to published the first black newspaper in the U.S.
Source: http://www.blackpast.org/?q=aah/russwurm-john-1799-1851
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Maurice Ashley
First black Chess Grandmaster
As a child growing up in Jamaica, chess was just one of the dozens of games Ashley played with his siblings. It wasn’t until his family moved to Brooklyn, N.Y., that he began taking the game seriously.
Source: http://www.goddesschess.com/chesstories/blackgm.html
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Claude McKay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_McKay
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Robert Sutherland
Robert Sutherland a Jamaican was the first Black man to study law in North America. Upon his death in 1878, Sutherland’s left his entire estate, an amount that was almost equivalent to the Queens University (Kingston, Ontario) annual budget.
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Joel Augustus Rogers
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/rogers-ref.html
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Jacob DeCordova
Jacob A. P … on June 6, 1808, founded the Daily Gleaner in 1834, and the city of Waco, Texas. Jamaicans not only founded a city in Texas, but also assisted with the development of that state.
Barbados: Current reports of drug trafficking; activities of drug dealers and gangs involved in drug trafficking; attitude and interventions of the state and police
The United States Drug Enforcement Administration’s Website includes a report entitled The Drug Trade in the Caribbean: A Threat Assessment (n.d.) that provides the following information on narcotics and narcotics trafficking in Barbados:
Barbados is one of the small islands that comprise the eastern edge of the Caribbean transit zone for drugs traveling from South America to the United States, Canada, and Europe.
Drug traffickers use Barbados and the other islands of the Lesser Antilles as a staging area for airdrops and smuggling by small vessel. Most of the cocaine seized in Barbados comes from couriers that transit Barbados’ Grantley Adams International Airport. The airport is a major international hub that provides daily direct flights to the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom (UK).
Bibles Used To Smuggle Cocaine From Barbados To Canada
When Our Pastor Said “Get High On The Lord”, I Don’t Think He Had This In Mind…
A 21 year-old man was arrested at Toronto Pearson airport for bringing 4 kilos of cocaine into Canada from Barbados. There is no indication in the news story as to the man’s name or whether he is a Barbadian.
i thought u guys were perfect lmao!!!!!!!! bye thanks bp i now beleive miss myrie u guys r so unfair take care
wow i thought u guys were perfect lmao!!!!!!! canada beware
Jamaicans in Heaven
St. Peter came to the Lord and said, ‘Lord, I have to talk to you. I have a problem. I know we didn’t have many Jamaicans in heaven so you instituted an affirmative action plan and we are supposed to have 10,000 Jamaicans in heaven. But they are causing so many problems! They have torn down the Pearly Gates by swinging on them. They have let in another 10,000 of their bredrin (brethrens) through the fence. They are constantly hanging out by the gate disturbing Angel Gabriel begging for a ‘bly'(opportunity) for their baby modder (kid’s mother), cousin, sista (sister), neighbor, granny, auntie…
Whenever it is their turn to watch the gates they keep letting in heavy, good looking women(large women). They have stolen my harp. They have gotten jerk sauce all over their white robes. Drum pan (a kind of barbeque grill made from 55 gal drums) chicken is being sold all over the Streets of Gold. Some are walking around with only one wing because they are”STYLING’. Angels must have two wings to fly! Some of them have put on chrome wings and are dazzling the other angels when they are flying.
The white robes are eternal and must be washed five times a day. Some haven’t washed their robes since they arrived because they didn’t come to heaven to ‘slave’. Some have refused to take their turn in helping keep the stairway to heaven clean because ‘dem ah no helper'(they don’t do domestic jobs). Many who came here because they used salt are still using it because they don’t like ‘ital’ food. Some refuse to wear their halos because ‘it will mess up their hairdo’. Some are wearing it backways. Others are wearing it with the tags still attached to them.
Others have discarded the white halos and are wearing red, green and gold ones instead; they claim these are ‘bashy’ (looks more trendy). Most of the women have discarded their white robes and are wearing “batty riders'(micro shorts) claiming that they have pretty skin and want to show off their ‘bandy legs'( bent legs). Reggae music is blasted at all hours of the night. Their cellular phones are worn on their robes and keep ringing during prayers. Recently there was an altercation between Adam and one Jamaican who claims he was only ‘checking out’ (intense gazing) Eve. They have planted Ganja in the Garden of Eden since the soil is so fertile claiming ‘man and man haffi hustle’ (they have to earn a living).
What should I do? The Lord said, ‘It wouldn’t be fair to not let Jamaicans in heaven. They have just as much right to be here as other nationalities. Maybe we just don’t know how to deal with them and are using the wrong approach. Let’s check with someone who has more experience dealing with them. Let’s call the Devil.’ The Devil answered the phone and said, ‘Hello, Lord. What can I do for you?’ The Lord said, ‘we have a problem up here, and we’d like to talk to you about it.’ The Devil said, ‘Just a minute, I’ve got to put you on hold.”
The Devil was gone for five minutes. He came back to the phone and said, ‘OK Lord, I’m back. What’s up?’ The Lord said, I would like to talk to you about a problem up here.’ Again the Devil excused himself and put the Lord on hold for fifteen minutes this time. Finally, the Devil came back to the phone and said, ‘Lord, I am really sorry, but I can’t talk to you right now. I have to go. These damn Jamaicans down here…… I don’t know where they found water, but they have put out the fire and yesterday they even had air conditioning installed saying ‘man come yah fe chill'(We are here to relax).
dont bring god in ur nastiness u little devil, what a disgrace !!!! ewwwwwh oh my unuh r so badmind, grudeful, envious, god protect this beautiful island from this satan psalm 35 fi u fool what an idiot!!!! Jamaica mi seh peace and love.
ILOVe you BARBADOS!
Thank you Barbados Free Press for your untiring service in trying to drag Barbados’ name through the mud.
We Barbadians hope that when you have achieved your agenda that you will move on to one of the other Islands.
Again on behalf of all Barbadians THANK YOU!
It seems people will believe everything that they read and hear these days.
I remember when Michael Jackson was accused of molesting young boys, he settled the first case out of court and that opened the flood gates. All of a sudden every little boy from America to Pakistan had been abused by poor Michael.
Well Michael said I will not settle, to do so would invite everyone else and set further precedent. Put me on trial. He was put on trial for the charge and was acquitted by a jury of his peers. Thus ended the lawsuits.
I can forsee that if people see Myire is successful with her campaign of libel and slanderous terror, it will open the flood gates, and soon people who never even came to Barbados or know where it is will complain they were violated by the Barbados Immigration.
@All Jamaicans on BFP. This topic has degenerated into chauvinistic name calling, chest beating and downright insults. It is obvious from the posts that most Jamaicans have little or no clue as to life in general in the rest of the Caribbean and are totally in the dark as to how their fellow countrymen/women are making a living in this region. 89 has taken objection to me calling the women whores and promised to blog in JA about it. Well I do not know what else to call women who have sex for money.
I welcome the blog anyway because I think Jamaicans at home need to be au fait with the human trafficking/ sex industry their sisters and daughters (even mothers) are caught up in just to make a living. Even some JA men are resorting to performing oral sex for money as was the case of the 23 year old young man who stabbed his ‘john’ to death in Carlisle last week. How desperate can life be in JA that a man prefers to work on his knees rather than return home?
No one is denying Jamaica’s cultural contribution to the Caribbean or the world in general. Marley (Bob that is) is one of my favorite icons. All we are saying is that that hotbed of creativity and greatness coupled with natural resources NEEDS to be realized into economic opportunities for all Jamaicans and not just the political and white elite. Shooting the messengers on this blog (burying your head in the sand) will not improve the situation any. Nor will living vicariously through Bolt, Marley and Colin Powell achievements improve your lot in life. Start shooting (constructively) at your policy makers. Demand quality education, housing and job opportunities from your leaders, call a boycott on your policy makers as loudly as you do for Bajan products. 89 start a blog on unemployed JAs having to leave home to be exploited sexually to make a decent living. We are not the problem, however we have become embroiled in your mess up to our necks as plane loads of JAs are dumped on our small islands weekly to compete with nationals for the scarce resources. JA isn’t poor because of slavery, (Barbados,Bahamas Antigua etc had slavery also) its poor due to poor management and it’s lack of investment into it’s most valuable resource. Its people.
http://www.caribarena.com/antigua/news/latest/economic-hardship-luring-more-sex-workers-2011032697014.html
ok miss dessalines i no u hate jamaican women because u jus love to belittle them it mus b that u guys r nt satisfying ur man that y bcause if u were they would be out of business oh please come on talk abt name calling and insult u must be crazy do u read the things u rite abt jamaican women even went as far as calling them whores i feel sorry for u dessaline u seem to b a victim, i cant beleive after all u have said abt us jamaican u have the decency to talk abt name calling and insults callin us “whores” what have jamaica women ever done u to mam this is outrage!! u r a deceiver dessalines, wat u think u can talk all the horrible things abt my country and we should jus read it and dont say anything, what have jamaican ever done to u guys, dessalines arent ur country having economic and social problems u people disgust me! arent there any prostitutes and criminals in your country stop belittling and disgracing jamaican women with ur double standard behaviour, all u people ever do is talk crap abt jamaica and u never c any good in our country and when we try to show u some good u call it insult u people have to b crazy there r a lot of ur country men in international prisons, there r drug trafficking and all soughts of criminal activities in ur country come on there is proof, pray for jamaicas crime situation and stop celebrating it to satify ur ego and hatred for my fellow jamaican desselines u r a deceiver u call jamaican women whore this is OUTRAGE!!!!!!!! and should not be broadcast on barbados press!!!!!!
@Dessa’cucaracha: Antiguan men desire Jamaican male prostitutes too?! OMG… it must be like Sodom there…
No Dr Suss it was two Jamaicans. The deceased was I hear, well do to however.
It is sad to know that the Bajan’s in this forum condone such an act on another black woman. If this had taken place in Jamaica or any other country to any woman (PERIOD). I would as many other Jamaican would be fighting for that cause. Such a very sad thing to see such vemon and hate coming out of people (BLACK) for another and even moreso an entire Black Caribbean country. Lord I pray for our “BLACK” sisters and brother. MASSA!! Have certainly left us hating each other. Sad to know that Bardados is still stuck with the massa mentality. Just to let you’ll know that I still love you as my black brother and sisters. Maybe the Bajan’s need to try loving themself first, from whence they will be able to extend “LOVE” to others. Peace and love to all, even those that “HATE” us Jamaican. FYI! Remember this is anything should occur with any of you Bajan’s us Jamaicans will be defending you’ll always.
@Dessa’cucaracha: yeah right!
@Anonymous I see you have difficulties with your reading and comprehension. Not surprising with that high illiteracy rate. So let me spell it out for you. I really don’t care what Jamaicans do in Jamaica, that is their business. Yes there are prostitutes (you seem to prefer that word to whore) and criminals in Antigua. Jamaican (plus Guyanese and Santo Domingans) prostitutes and criminals that is. If all of them would pack up and leave Antigua tomorrow you would never hear another word from me about Jamaica or Jamaicans.
My Jamaican brother and sisters please I beg let us exit this forum, there is no reasoning with these people, they show more ignorance than anything else. Now that we know how they really feel about us, let us exit gracefully. If it means taking their bread (Tourism) away from them. Let us do that. They are not even worth trying to have a dialogue with them. V E M O N!!! Towards Jamaican is what I see here. SAD! SAD!! SAD!! Let us pray for them, and in so doing campaign to stiffle their economy. Peace out.
@Dessalines you sound like a ignorant baboon.
Oh STFU Carol. Before you take our bread and stifle our economy (you cant even manage your own) …please take all your brothers and sisters along with you (to live in Canada ) or where ever you are illegally. Ooops sorry, they would need a visa right- and a job and bank letter to get one (last I heard pimps don’t do job letters so ure screwed)
@Dessalines I saw some Jamaican woman must have taken your Bajan man or if you are a man a Jamaican man took your woman. You certainly are a sick, and mentally deranged individual. If I was your Government I would sue you for representing the country. You need prayers my dear. Negative for the country which you love so very much. SAD! You sound like someone with an inferior complex. Then again you ought to learn to love yourself with your accent to. YUCK!!
dessalines u mad u mus b mad, mam am writing in abreviation as i alwys do on d intnt hahha hha ha u a one big mad woman, u lick u head, ys JA have a low literacy rate ur country have a high one and yet ur still a third world country wid di high literacy rate i think u guys should have already position urself as a 1st world country doptodo, oh its feel good to write inna patois u jealous of jamaican women doptodo, i have a degree in social work doptodo i guess all jamaicans r illiterate too rite ur a hater! i neva noh seh antigua inna di same category as japan, china and america, y y’all hate JA suh what a doptodo r u a victim mam u seem to hate prostitutes guyanese teck u man, i honestly bleive seh uh badmind and grudge jamaican women, again doptodo it must b that u r not satisfying ur man thats y these guyanese, jamaican and santo women r doin good business.
If the Bajan individuals in this forum really had any sense they would have acted much better in this forum. Firstly they have no idea as to whom has been watching this forum. For a country which strive on tourism, I would have shut my mouth. When an allegation such as this one is out in the media. Then to come into this forum and watch the dialogue here. HMMM!! Wow these are the folks which someone visiting Barbados would be meeting. Did you notice that I enter this forum as myself and not hiding as anyone else? HMMM! I bet many of you here if working, work in teh “TOURISM INDUSTRY”. Have you forgotten that this is your bread and butter? HMMM! Keep going @Dessalines.
doptodo d amount a antiguan and bjans who overstay in canada, uk illegally jus bcause they r no visa restrictions not to mention america doptodo go and take ur mad pill r u bipolar hater drop a sleep the uk and canada soon fix unuh business continue show up doptodo think dem nah watch unuh undercover criminal activities drop sleep hater dessaline!
@Anonymous (LOL)
“take ur mad pill r u bipolar hater drop a sleep the uk and canada soon fix unuh business continue show up doptodo think dem nah watch unuh undercover criminal activities drop sleep hater dessaline!”
JAMACIAN dont like bajans andwe know that to much in barbados nowyou know doing what remember who broke up the federation when a bajan was the prime minister they had to be a reason if she was search and you are known by the company you keep i know there are the most ignorant people to deal with and like to be bullies too .an i notice here of late people who are not barbadians want to tell us what to do in our country but you cant tell them about theres and if i had my way all those involve in drugs i would put before a firing squad and let the defence soldiers shoot them down that way you wont have to feed them or find a place for them to live and that money would be able to do some else to help our nation
Caribbean Unity…from reading these comments, I wonder if we’ll ever truly have that again.
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Barbados: Current reports of drug trafficking; activities of drug dealers and gangs involved in drug trafficking; attitude and interventions of the state and police
The United States Drug Enforcement Administration’s Website includes a report entitled The Drug Trade in the Caribbean: A Threat Assessment (n.d.) that provides the following information on narcotics and narcotics trafficking in Barbados:
Barbados is one of the small islands that comprise the eastern edge of the Caribbean transit zone for drugs traveling from South America to the United States, Canada, and Europe.
Drug traffickers use Barbados and the other islands of the Lesser Antilles as a staging area for airdrops and smuggling by small vessel. Most of the cocaine seized in Barbados comes from couriers that transit Barbados’ Grantley Adams International Airport. The airport is a major international hub that provides daily direct flights to the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom (UK).
Words of henery george::
“those involve in drugs i would put before a firing squad and let the defence soldiers shoot them down that way you wont have to feed them or find a place for them to live and that money would be able to do some else to help our nation” lol what hatred ur taking action on jamaicans by treating us like dogs canadians r going to take action too spit ur venom on jamaicans wht goes around comes around!!!!! everything u say abt jamaicans the canadians r saying abt you spit ur venom of hatred towards jamaicans and we will neva b afraid of bjan firing squad or defense force we have a army too u forget u man of such hate.
Peace
Stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupst!
We in Barbados have to get dread! Stop bringing drugs into Barbados. Stop coming here to sell your ASSets! You are NOT helping our economy! You are useless!
Jamaica: U will what? Ban Bajan products?
Who sells more to whom? You to us or us to you? Try it! I am going to read every label in the supermarket and put the squeeze on your sub-standard products.
Guyana: I woudl suggest that you be quiet. The only export you guys seem to have is people. And not rocket scientists, Mathematicians, Actuaries or even good general workers. You try to export your waste here as if this is a wasteland or dumping ground for your un-wanteds! Un-acceptable!
If she was subjected to a cavity search, I am certain that she has been under watch for sometime now. What value do Jamacians coming here three and four times a year deliver to Barbados? Are they working in some quantifiable industry? Assisting in building our economy by their valiant efforts and impeccable work ethics or exlemplary skill sets? If so, then I submit that we are at fault for being over-zealous. But alass, if every blinking Jamacian left these shores bar none, the country wouldn’t sink or even fail. If Jamacians still think that they are two places in the world, Jamaica( affectionaly called Yard ) and Foreign , then stay inna Yard! Dont come here!
Shanique Myrie is not an highly educated Jamaican, therefore , for her to give those detail/graphic reports of her ordeal in Barbados means that she is a genius, if she is not talking from what she experienced at that airport.
You keep discussing other issues about her motives in Barbados, but what does any of that have to do with the finger-rape and the humiliation she suffered at the hands of a Barbadian immigration authorities who, based on most of your feedbacks, have grown frustrated with Jamaicans? Are you saying that you are justified to do what you did because you suspected that this woman was lying? If this is the case, then wouldn’t your long history of hate for Jamaicans make her story more believable? Your accounts of the events are based on speculations, while Shanique Myrie and other Jamaicans stories are based on their experiences in your country.
Your history of contempt for the Jamaican people makes this very easy for any rational thinking person to believe. A white man told us that Barbadian hates Jamaican, because 22 years ago two black Jamaicans in a sport team were left in your airport at 11 ‘O’ clock at night, while the other white Jamaicans were accommodated. Jamaica should never forgive Barbados for these abusive and obviously racist actions. You are a mentally enslaved people. Your attempt at trying to use Jamaica’s current socio-economic conditions to justify your hate us is all a farce. Your contempt for us stems first from jealousy, because we are more open-minded, friendlier and forceful.
You hated us when Jamaica had the best economy in the Caribbean and the strongest dollar in the world. This shows that your contempt for us is deeply rooted in jealousy and envy. As long as you are doing economically better than Jamaica, that is all fine for you. In the meantime, Jamaica has always been there for our Caribbean neighbors. We may not want Federation, but no Bajan or any other Caribbean nationals can make the claim that the “high crime-rate’ Jamaican society has ever targeted their citizens in Jamaica.
Since you hate us then we should not trust foods coming from Barbados. If someone hates you don’t eat his food, because you never know what he puts into it.
Given the amount of hate coming down right now on Bajans from Jamaicans, I for one will
1) not be frequenting any Jamaican restaurants or Jamaican fast food joints out of fair they may add a little “secret sauce” to the food so they can get even.
2) visiting any local strip joints which are staffed mostly by beautiful Jamaicans for fear of being knifed or needled during a lap dance.
This will cause an economic fall out for every one, sighs.
u no for years barbados have been geeting away with drug trafficking and the uk us and canadian goverment r aware of it,bjans have been taking advantage of the fact that they dont need a visa to go to uk and i think canada every year hundreds not to mention thousands of bjans have overstay their visit in uk and canada, i bet the bjan drug lords work with jamaican drug lords too lol!! the uk and canada must stop the double standard too and impose visa restriction on them because of there undercover criminal activities they have the evidents to investigate the drug lords in barbados but bcause of the low murder rate they ignore it but one day it will be revealed! and trust jamaicans will be rejoicing, yes we r flocking ur country every year but u r smart u r flocking the uk and canada with drugs and ur prostitutition rings ur attacking the first world countries lol, laughing and rejoicing at jamaicas crime problem to satisfy ur ego dont worry ur time will soon come wait until the drug lords in barbados turn against themselves GOD watch over jamaica, barbados is also a transit that helps to flood jamaica with drugs and guns! undercover criminals am proud to be a jamaican! God please help jamaica to fight against this monster i call crime so that these inhumane individuals can stop showing us this amt of hatred GOD u no and i no that they r nt perfect but wats in the dark must light
All this name calling and chest stomping will get us no where. First for those who see all the nearly five million Jamaicans as wrong doers show just how uninformed you are about us.
Its best we stay on the topic of the abuse to this woman and the sugestion that this is something systematic which if true does not bears well for barbadoes.
The Earth is getting increasingly smaller for all its people and more and more we have to do our best to get along as best as possible with each others.
@Dessalines, you are misguided. I have worked in all the Caribbean islands. Jamaica has the best infrastructure and public facilities in all the Caribbean. The only place that I see that one could compare to Jamaica in terms of facilities is Trinidad.
Eastern Caribbean people eat and live very simple lives.
I got along with all Caribbean people. Each is unique in its own ways.
You cannot talk about GDP when it comes to Jamaica. A large part of the Jamaica economy is underground economy. GDP doesn’t mean that you as an individual have any money. It could well mean that you have 1 percent of Antiguans and/or foreigners controlling all the industries.
You Bajan’s are “SICK” how did the dialogue which began with the abuse of a female (at the airport) become one of “HATE”. It is so very sad. That the mentality of you, whom do not know themselves sow such “VEMON!”. Who are you people really? Are you even “HUMANS”? Please I beg stop your lies, Jamaican’s in this forum did not enter with ‘LIES and HATE”. We came to have civil discussions RE: Allegation. And the hate which I have seen coming from you people are dispectable. @henery george “those involve in drugs i would put before a firing squad and let the defence soldiers shoot them down that way you wont have to feed them or find a place for them to live. ” Now I am realy concern for my people in your country. @Barbados Free Press, please note I will be reporting this site.
@Errol Townsend – “CONCUR”.
With that being “SAID” which of the intellectual Bajan here is willing to begin such a dialogue? This is an allegation, what really took place at the airport with Ms Myrie? And why would a non-medical personnel do a cavity search? Let us not make allegations that this lady is “A Whore/Prostitues” etc., etc., she is someone’s child. Whilst thinking this through, please remember you may be a female, have a mother, sister, daughter, neice or wife. How would you react if this happened to one of them or yourself? Think people think, and think with intelligence and not ignorantly. This is not about Jamaica and or Barbados, “BUT” a human being. While on that think also “WHY” this “HATE” towards the people of the country. I can only speak for myself, I love all my (BLACK) brothers and sisters. I have personnally invited people to view the comments in this forum and can only imagine the feedback which will come back from the comments here. Black folks why do we still have that massa mentality, this is like the house and field “NEGROES” fighting once again. Free yourself for once and let us dialogue “RESPECTFULLY”.
“A WAR ON CRIME”
SPEECH BY
HONOURABLE MR LESTER B BIRD
PRIME MINISTER
AT THE END OF POLICE WEEK
ON FRIDAY, 5TH SEPTEMBER 2003
“One murder, therefore, is one murder too many.
Incidentally, because the crime figures in Guyana and Jamaica are high, and because we have sizeable communities of Guyanese and Jamaicans in Antigua, I am aware of the popular belief that the majority of crimes here are perpetrated by Guyanese and Jamaicans.
This is not so.
And, it is time that we put an end to this myth. For in looking in the wrong direction, we will fail to see the principal source of our problem.
Our prison population, excluding six who are at large, now stands at 173, of which 132 or 76 per cent are Antiguans and Barbudans. This figure clearly indicates that the majority of crimes in our society are committed by our own people.
This is not to say that foreigners do not commit crimes here. They do. But, the danger in believing that the majority of crimes are committed by foreigners is that we may place so much emphasis on them that we ignore the main areas of criminal activity.
At the moment, of the 173 persons in prison, there are 12 Jamaicans, 7 Guyanese, 7 Dominicans and 6 UK citizens. The majority of them are in jail for drug-trafficking offences. Of the others, 3 are from St Vincent, 2 are from the Dominican Republic, another 2 are Americans, one is St Lucian and another one is from Trinidad.
Of the 3,172 crimes reported in 2002, foreigners committed only 68 or 2.4% of them. And, of the 68 crimes, 19 were for the possession of drugs. Guyanese committed 0.6% of the reported crimes in 2002, Jamaicans 0.3%. Dominicans 0.4%, Dominican Republicans 0.1%, and British 0.1%. Others, such as Belizians, Americans, Kittians and Vincentians committed 1 crime each. This means that our own nationals committed 97.6% of the crimes in 2002.
Mr Chairman, let me make it clear that even though it is a fact that our own nationals “
Read the complete speech at:
http://www.antigua-barbuda.com/business_politics/prime_minister/pm_speech_policeweek.asp
Carol Boeth, how is it that you want a dialouge with “intellectual” bajans on a blog that you are reporting? Hypocritical much? Don’t you understand that forked tongues only bring division. You are causing confusion.
words of fyan bunna
Guyana: I woudl suggest that you be quiet. The only export you guys seem to have is people. And not rocket scientists, Mathematicians, Actuaries or even good general workers.
so i c from fyan bunna u guys hate guyana too y u have to be attacking guyanese people thank god u have a high literacy rate, fyan bunna leave the guyanese alone ur 1 of the brilliants bjans right? could neva bcause u seem to have a brain of a two year old, and by the way it seems to me that u bjans think ur better than everybody else in the caribbean, u have a spectular literacy rate thats y u r goin around disrespecting people because u deam them as illiterate what a stress!!
@BurlyHombre there is not one Jamaican in this forum threatening to kill anyone. This sort of “HATE” must be reported. Call it whatever you wish my dear. Too much “VEMON” filtering through some of the people (not all) from Barbados. So any united Black brother / sister here wishing to discuss this then let’s have a go at it “RESPECTFULLY”.
Do you believe that the situation at the airport with Ms Myrie could have been handled in a more appropriate way?
@Anonymous let’s challenge them to dialogue “RESPECTFULLY”.
To all my bajan bro/sis:
“The price of hating other human beings is loving oneself less.”
REMEMBER:
” We hate some persons because we do not know them; and will not know them because we hate them.”
Jamaican’s are peace loving people, please know that. Which is why we need to know what took place at your airport to our Jamaican sister. I wish you all knew yourself, if you did know yourself. Then and only then would you know she is also your “BLACK” sister too.
@Carol Boeth
Please address the article in question with your honest opinion minus the ad hoc attacks on Barbados and Bajans in general.How would you address this ?
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110217/lead/lead4.html
@Jay please quote me correctly. “Call it whatever you wish my dear. Too much “VEMON” filtering through some of the people (not all) from Barbados. So any united Black brother / sister here wishing to discuss this then let’s have a go at it “RESPECTFULLY”.
(not all). And let it be known that I apologise to Barbados Free Press. I will not report the site, as we need to have the “World” witness the behaviour of the few bajan in this forum.
@jay
u bjans r the ones disgracing jamaican and guyanese women, and rejoicing at us having low literacy rate and our crime problem to satisfy ur own ego and hatred for us! u deceivers implying that all jamaican women r whores and drug dealers u r a disgrace to the black race, 97.6% of crimes in 2002 were committed by bajans lester bird said it but yet u guys were blaming guyanese and jamaicans for it, this hold saga is not abt us its abt u bjans despising jamaicans bcause u r badmind, grudgeful and envious and we no, go get ur own swag and stop pretending to be us. There is a reason y people around the world r saying that barbados is an unfriendly country u have no love in ur heart all u do is hate, hate, hate i bet u will be voted as the most unfriendly country in the world.
To all of you in here, what if this lady story is not true and she is just fabrication this story because she was not allowed entry in the Island , from what I read in the newspapers I do believe that she search this happens all over the world, she is not the first or the last. Do people leaving Jamaica get search from time to time? or you just take a plane there and leaving without any questions from Immigration officers please let me know… have a great day
@justme
What is it that you do not understand from this? It is “YES” an allegation. Which is why a full investigation is needed. to prove if is is true or “LIE”. Who are you or I to say she is telling a lie without? It is an allegation. Get the investigation going?
Jamaican women welcome in Barbados if they submit to a finger up their vagina? WHY THE GOVT. OF WOULD ALLOW THIS TO BE PUBLISH PLEASE TAKE THIS DOWN HOW ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE READING THIS WHAT WOULD THIS DO TO BARBADOS REPUTATION OR YOU DON’T CARE? FREE PRESS YOU SUCK
@Jay, that is a simply story to analyze. Just leave your emotions aside and try and dig deep into that thing you call “Smart Bajon Brains” and just maybe with some stroke of luck, you may be able see the differences and similarities in the two cases.
The immigration officers in Barbados and Jamaica conducted themselves differently. One was professional, while the other was emotional and unprofessional.
I was very surprised to see the article in the Jamaica Gleaner about the 12 year old Jamaican girl who was forced to remove her pants and underwear for a female officer at the airport in Jamaica. I wonder what would have happened to her had she not been wearing a sanitary pad? It is shocking to learn that the officer would not allow an adult to accompany the girl when she was taken away to be searched. I wonder why that Jamaican woman found it necessary to search one of her own Jamaican citizens like that? To me this case is worse than the Myrie case, because it involves a child.
Jamaicans seem to have amnesia about this case, because there is no mention of it in any articles about the Myrie case and some Jamaicans are acting as if someone being asked to submit to a search at an airport is something foreign to them. It is not as if the incident happened years ago. It happened only last month!!!
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110217/lead/lead4.html
@carol boeth, do you have a place to clean or children to cook for? nothing is going to come out of this so you keep the hype up Idiot
@justsayinbajan
u people r pretenders u r the ones partaking in criminal activities and r blaming it on jamaican and other caribbean nationals, continuously being in denial and only focusing on miss myrie and nt lookin at the bigger picture that jamaicans have been treated like dogs by the bajan immigration over the years. boasting abt the fact that u dont need visa to travel lol, and implying that we jamaicans r illiterate come on get a grit seriously u people have issues lol.. whats with the showing off lol am a jamaican an we have alot to celebrate, we r high acheivers the world is in love with us
justsayinbajan continue to be in denial mam, ur immigration put her finger in myrie and tell har how all u jamaican come to barbados to do is steal our man i bet she was searchin to fine what jamaican women have that she dont have.
so wat that article prove that ur immigration should do it too lol a wah dis man. the little girl is a jamaican and she was not subjected to being verbally abused. ur immigration RAPED miss myrie thats the different.
there is no justification for it no matter what u say i thought u people were genius.
ok then continue to finger rape jamaican women bcause its justifiable for his mercies endureth forever.
What does slavery have to do with allegations of a Jamaican national getting assaulted in Barbados? Last I checked, even the oldest person in the world is too young to have been a slave under the Trans-Atlantic slave trade…..
@JustSayinBajan: we are also upset about that…all the more reason why we are offended by your hate crime against Ms. Myrie…. if you took some time to read the article with your high literacy level…u would see that…
1. “The child was travelling on an early Monday morning flight to Fort Lauderdale with her father and a relative.”
The child was to board a flight to the United States and is subject to all post-9/11 regulations.
2. ” …a female security officer asked the child to remove her pants and underwear following an upper-body pat-down search.”
It is obvious that a foreign object was discovered during the pat down. TSA regulations require significant care in situations such as this (ROK shares my personal views on this one).
3. “My daughter’s father asked if he could be with her and the officer told him no. When my cousin asked, as she is a woman, she was also told no.”
Standard procedure to allow the child to be questioned without intimidation or coercion if contraband or explosives were found.
4. “It was when the officer saw (my daughter’s) sanitary pad in her panty that she asked her to put her clothes back on,” the mother said.
Please note the agent did not touch the child but instructed her to disrobe and subsequently discontinued after she discovered what the foreign object was. The child was not subjected to degrading vaginal probing and verbal abuse.
There was no malice on the part of that agent in Jamaica compared to the one in Barbados who acted unprofessionally and treated Ms. Myrie with significant disrespect. I am upset as a parent for the intrusion into the child’s privacy regardless of the circumstances. Your attempt to inject this article to draw parallel is quite disingenuous and has illustrated the opposite of your intent.
Old pirates, yes, they rob I;
Sold I to the merchant ships,
Minutes after they took I
From the bottomless pit.
But my hand was made strong
By the hand of the Almighty.
We forward in this generation
Triumphantly.
Won’t you help to sing
These songs of freedom?
‘Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs,
Redemption songs.
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our minds.
Have no fear for atomic energy,
‘Cause none of them can stop the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look? Ooh!
Some say it’s just a part of it:
We’ve got to fulfill the Book.
Won’t you help to sing
These songs of freedom?
‘Cause all I ever have:
Redemption songs,
Redemption songs,
Redemption songs.
—
/Guitar break/
—
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery;
None but ourselves can free our mind.
Wo! Have no fear for atomic energy,
‘Cause none of them-a can-a stop-a the time.
How long shall they kill our prophets,
While we stand aside and look?
Yes, some say it’s just a part of it:
We’ve got to fulfill the book.
Won’t you have to sing
These songs of freedom? –
‘Cause all I ever had:
Redemption songs –
All I ever had:
Redemption songs:
These songs of freedom,
Songs of freedom.
@ Carol Boeth
I did NOT quote you at any time ,I directed the question at you concerning the story I linked within the post,nothing more.Please re-read what I wrote and what are you thoughts on the story WITHOUT the sensationalism if possible.
@Anonymous
Never in any post did I say what my nationality was,The person you speak of mentioned they were of Antiguan birth from what I could surmise and read thus far as I only read the last half of the comments.I also did not direct the question to any other person other than Carol because she doesn’t seem to extend any grandiloquent speech.Naming all Bajans as blah blah extends the exact same ignorance you purport.Last I checked accordingly the country was named the second best nation amongst all Commonwealth countries for a WOMAN to be born in followed by Trinidad.Jamaica is 12th which is pretty good I think.Notice I did not use any ad hoc attacks……..hmmmm.
Click to access because-youre-a-girl.pdf
@Africanus
Really,You think so ? How is it professional to ask a 12 year old national of your own country as an officer such a thing and deny the parents access ?Yet again,I never mentioned my nationality.Do you see where I’m getting at here……we give labels to things before they are self evident.I think we should see where this goes before labeling entire countries on BOTH sides as insert Rhetorical Jingoistic BS here.
@Docta Suss thanks for clarifying that.
Completely different situation, this individual had her fingers in Ms Myrie Cavity. Why will you not just admit that it was wrong, this person is not a medical person to have conducted that kind of search. It is not about Barbados vs Jamaica, but the “RAPE” of a woman. We are only requesting an investigation to ensure that this is never repeated to another female. Why are you people condoning this behaviour?
You know how I see this whole thing ending ? Citizens of Jamaica will be continued to be inspected even more by Barbados Immigration or customs if this things goes bad or good because the incentive is there.
Anonymous:
Let me get this real clear. No apologies clear!
We Bajans are snooty and many times self absorbed. We look down our noses at other Caribbean islands as “low-islanders” and other derogatory terms. But let me be abundantly clear. We have had way too much hate thrown at us the moment we attempt to protect our borders and speak fact regarding how other islanders come here and attempt to do as they please. I don’t care about the literacy rate etc etc, we got our problems here, but we ent letting people cum bout down hay and du wuh dem please cause dem doan like we!
We have done enough of the self hate with respect to other islands and how we allow them to come to our shores and operate with impunity. Don’t like my comments, dont read them! Dont like us, you can leave here if you are based here. Should we let prostitution reign here fuelled by greed, stupidity and ignorance just because it is a way to facilitate another country extracting money , un-taxed and un-regulated I might add, from out shores?
NO. We like we! And we will protect Barbados faults and all!
Thank you.
@Jay there is no debate here about inspections to be done. We are speaking about a “Cavity Search” in a room with a non-medical staff. Let us stay on track please. We are not here to discuss anything other than the way in which the search was conducted. Imagine your mother, wife, sister, niece, grand0-child, cousin, aunt etc., etc.,. Would you condone it then? Everyone think about it for a few minutes.
Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight. – Proverbs 12:22 (KJV)
It’s time to move on folks. This is a “he said she said” story that, unless someone fesses up, can never be proved or disproved. A delegation from Jamaica is supposed to be going to Barbados to discuss the matter and a member of the Jamaican government is supposed to bring up the issue at a CARICOM meeting. Ms. Myrie claims she is going to sue. Let the government officials, Ms. Myrie, and her attorney fight it out. It doesn’t make sense for us to continue to argue about it. Either Ms. Myrie or Bajan government officials are playing us for fools. I don’t plan to participate in the mess anymore. Goodbye
@jay
You know how I see this whole thing ending ? Citizens of barbados will be continued to be inspected even more by jamaica, usa, canada, uk, trinidad, guyana etc Immigration or customs if this things goes bad or good because the incentive is there. what goes around comes around
@Anonymous: nope…there will be no tit-for-tat in Jamaica…however, the hate crimes committed against other Caribbean nationals in Barbados will become a bigger international embarrassment if the government and people of Barbados do not approach this issue more constructively.
@dr suss
ur right our immigration will not stoop so low anyway so right
This is shocking. Barbadians are so barbaric and bigotted. Come on let us forget about CARICOM, we (Jca) are definately a major player, ask your gov’t. There are alot of B’dian Nationals living in Jca. I thank God that we are not small minded as most B’dians here. We don’t ill-treat and ostracize ppl as you do.
Even if Ms Myrie was a prostitute she still has human rights, even animals have rights. Besides a lot of Jcans have been complaining about such problem of illtreatment, so it is something we need to explore. The problem is it seems most of you B’dians are a bigoted bunch with serious hatred for us Jcans. This is a sad day for Caribbean integration, really sad.
Is B’dos so crime free? Is it not also a transhipment port? Is every Bdian wealthy? Don’t they migrate too? Could fool me, there are B’dian living in other countries without papers, why? If B’dos is so perfect.
The comments make me sick to know that our Gov’t does business with your country. The comments are absolutely dreadful.
If J’cans aren’t going to Cavehill pls stay out of B’dos. They brag about 90% literacy rate, I think that percentage was made up. That is the thing with us Jcans, we are too God damn honest. Now we see that honesty ain’t always the best policy.
I admit there are a few bad ones yes, but the majority of Jcans are good, honest people.
PS: Even if it is not a product of Jca it was influenced by Jca. Even your very own Rihanna sometimes sings in a Caribbean tone that is influenced by Jcan music. Hip-Hop is a derivative of reggae. The popular dances that RnB singer like Usher uses in some of his videos is influenced by the dancehall culture. The Reggae boyz brought dancing to the football fields now football players know how to do a celebratory dance after each goal. we are still the ‘Vibes ppl’ of the Caribbean, so much we helped you guys to had more appeal to Soca and you call it Dancehall soca. You guys can cackle till God come, badmind doesn’t help anyone.
a bunch a small minded peeps
You have the nerve to say strip searching a minor is different to a cavity search on an adult where is the hue and cry she too is a Black woman who was asked to submit to a degrading act.
@carol bothe the Bible also says “let he without sin cast the first stone”.
From what I see the Jamaican immigration/customs officials are doing the same job.
What we would like to see is Ms. Pamela Clarke and Daniel come forward and corroborate Ms. Myrie’s statement. We in Barbados as you noted are very docile so these people if they exist will not be victimised. I am sure that everyone in Barbados will be glad when this debacle has been settled.
We Barbadians will agree to issue an apology to the people of Jamaica if this story is true. However, it should be noted that all islands are expected to protect they sovereignty that is why the Customs officials are given the power to search and carry out their duties in accordance with the Laws of Barbados. Any departure from their mandate is a dereliction of duties.
In the event that this is untrue we will expect to see all of the Jamaicans who bombarded this blog with apologies as well as letters to all of the same major news networks to whom they have sent this story as well as the amount of funds required for the Barbados Tourism Authority to repair the damage caused.
To the others who wonder about whether or not this was a white woman what would occur I invite you to view the following:
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/locked-up-abroad/4389/Overview#tab-Videos/06911_00
@ Justme I can’t bother with this cack, cack, cack. But Jcan Immigration has been instrumental in the fight against drugs, ask Britain. B’dos can boast about GDP, atleast we have x-ray machines and if we suspected someone we would give them an enema rather than finger rape them.
Getwitthetimesthatsall.
To BFP we note that you usually keep ip addresses.
Please keep the ips for the Bajans who demeaned Jamaica on this blog. Would appreciate the same being done for the Jamaican’s who are engaging in the same behaviour.
You may be called on a later date to provide the same
Thanking the Jcan Gov’t in advance for attempting to get to the bottom of this. If it is one thing I know about us Jcans is that we (as in Shanique)wouldn’t waste lawyer time. The fact that the B’dians are gonna cover this story up I know we are even more determine to expose them. After all that is the nature. Still they got a tourist industry and image to protect but we just need the truth.
This is what Bob Marley called ‘educated dunce.’ You all can boast about literacy rate but you all don’t even know how to convert theory to practical, guess you cannot live in a non-book environment. But it all has to do with the confidence and that is what we Jcans have in excess. Now I see why the few Jcans with education (as you want to put it) do so well when they get out there. Now I see why we boast some of the most noticeable nurses (Mary Seacole durind the Crimean war), lawyers, doctors, teachers etc. Do you know that the first black scientist to make significant contribution to xenotransplantation is a Jcan? Also I see why we often do will at Miss World. It’s all about the confidence, it goes a long way.
As a Bajan i feel very ashamed to even know that our authority with power could ever treat another human the way they did. And it state clearly that although we brand Jamaican as everything we think bad when i analyse the situation Bajans are far worst than Jamaican. I have travelled to jamaica on several occasions and i have never been finger searched or treated badly and as bad as things is they are one friendly heck of a people no wonder our men love there women so. I had the opportunity of a good daughter-in-law and i am happy the choice my son made and was very happy it was not a Bajan woman. We need to stop this hate crime of bajan women thinking jamaican women are taking away their men. if this was not the case they would not have treated this women the way they did. and on behalf of the bajan people i do apologize for this shameful incident
the name calling and accusations started when team jamaica started spewing dem hate and venom towards my country. it seems like most jamaicans believe myrie, yet get offended when we believe our government.
there is no way i gonna sit at my pc and watch ANYBODY wash dem mout ova my country barbados. you dis my country i dis yours, you verbally assault my ppl i gine tell wunna bout wunna stinking mudders.
imagine yall jamaicans come on here and insult us over an accusation you have no evidence ever occured yet tell us that we should hush like lambs and take it like we owe wunna someting.
jamaicans want an apology from government. FOR WHAT? they already said ms myrie never got cavity search. apologise for something that never happened? schupes.
100Jan
You really are not a true Bajan you behaving as if you come from the Ghetto of Barbados we cant fight fire with fire. You were not there you have no clue what happened so hush hush and go read your bible and let us ask our Lord for forgiveness for the Bajan authority at the airport because in our hearts we knew they did something wrong. and you know that too
What is wrong with you Bajan you are showing the world what a set of terrible people we are. the world is reading our response to a crime that has been committed and we know for a fact that Bajan hates Jamaican, Trinidadian, Asian and every caribbean women that comes to our shore…it is such a disgrace the way we display our selves at time.
Wrong is wrong and let us stop defending it anymore. we think we are better than other caribbean island but we are so far from it. There is not much that come out of Barbados but a lot come out of Jamaica and I think they are a proud hardworking nation and we should stop treating them like animals
amanda obviously you were there since u know for a fact what she said happened, happened. btw we dont want you apologising on our behalf since at this stage its still an allegation. but since you were there do you mind telling our local authorities how it happened?
thing that got me is that most ppl commenting on the issue felt sympathy and compassion for the victim (if what she said was true) but then igrant ppl start coming in and talking a bunch of bullshit like they were right next to her
Thought you were a Barbadian Amanda.
How come it is now you Bajan[s]?
i know you cant be a bajan cuz for you to insult us by saying we hate “Jamaican, Trinidadian, Asian and every caribbean women that comes to our shore” either shows you are ignorant or an imposter.
Btw if truth be told I have never heard a Bajan woman mention a Jamaican woman tiefing she man or even express dislike for them.
Guyanese yes!
Jamaicans no!
St. Lucians no!
Trinidadians maybe?
Vincie nah dem is we girls!
what got me is dem come on here, insult us, we strike back, then they run back to dem blogs and online groups to reference the retaliation as “look what de bajans tink o we” it is deceptive.
I am not worried about them.
I want them to give the same hue and cry for the invasion of that 12 year old’s privacy when the Jamaican immigration/customs strip searched a child (they refused to allow an adult to accompany the child).
When that is done then I will believe that the outrage the have on Myrie’s behalf is genuine rather than just seeking to destroy Barbados’ reputation which the majority of them seem to be bent on
Some of us Bajans get to travel to other country to see how people treat each other while other of us stay home and think everyone else who is not from Barbados are animals and i wish some more of us would start visiting these other islands to see how these people live, the live lives just like us. And it bothers me to even think that if i should put myself in this girls shoe and someone in jamaica or any other country did this to me i would not be hurt. I grew up in Holetown i am every inch Bajan and i am proud of it and will not allow my fellow Bajan to let the whole world hate us and think we are a society of monsters because of trival matter. so i wish we would wake up and realise that the caribbean does not belong to us. Not because i dont hate other caribbean country does not make me less of a citizen of Barbados
amanda please report what you saw to the nearest police station since you witnessed what happened.
I have not only travelled to another country I have lived abroad.
I have gone into stores where the discussion was about us caribbean women being HIV carriers. How Jamaican women carry away their men and that Barbadians take away their jobs.
Where caribbean nationals are treated like the scum of the earth and told to go back where we come from.
As I have said already if this allegation is true then Barbados should apologise to the Jamaican people. However, if it is shown that there is no merit to the allegation then who will be footing the bill to repair the damage done to our reputation.
My question to you as a Barbadian (if in fact you are one) how do you justify under any circumstances the venom which was spouted by the Jamaicans on this blog where we are told that we are the house slaves and that we are educated dunces, etc.
we are supposed to humble our self and be silent as they drag us through the mud T Y. we have an ongoing investigation in an alleged assault but currently our reputation has been assaulted. whatever the outcome the damage is done. everytime a foreign national enters our shores and overstays or conducts illegal activity it is an assault on our nation. everytime a bajan does the same it also is an assault on other nations.
I can believe Myrie, it is not the fact that she has been deported, it is the way in which it was done. There might be no evidence of the search, yeah right. Cover up maybe? But I hope the Jcan Gov’t rattle de B’dian Gov’t. You guys barking up the wrong tree.
Anyways my Jcan peeps, let us not lose sleep over what these small minded bigots think. It ain’t worth it.
‘Man tief’- the B’dians girlfriends need to step their game up. If the fowl coop is clean the cock won’t stray. Still ppl have the right to be with who they love and no doubt y’all can stop that. I remember in england a B’dian man liked me off. But no way, he needs to be thought about the effect of toothpaste, Jamaican women don’t like stinking mouth men.
100jan
you really are representing my country in a way that i must say i am ashamed of. use this media as a way and means to let others now that Barbados is very beautiful and so are the people i wish you would stop the negativity and show more sympathy to this woman or should I take it you are a man. if this really happen i dont have to report to the authority because there is a God who rewards us according to our works and if she is lying then she will be punished and if our authorities are lying they will be punished and i prefer to leave the vengence to the Lord okay 100jan. and lets not show the world how bajans can behave badly on the internet. Have a very good night sleep.
100jan, well if you read the comment then you will see why some of your countrymen fit the bill of educated dunces and house slaves.
By the way you ppl are proclaiming the girl was illegal, blah blah when she did not even enter the country on two feet. Ppl have a right to travel. How do you all know of her intentions? Stereotyping are we? I for one wouldn’t live in Babados, not every Jamaican are thirsty to occupy your Island (SINK THAT IN YOUR LITERATE BRAIN).
Let me make this quite clear I will never descend into the gutter to make my point.
I am an articulate woman who benefited from free education and can get my point across without having to descend to your level.
Maybe it should be noted that Barbadian women are not held in high esteem because of our lack of game. We are not held in high esteem because we don’t give up the goods that easily we make them wait so in the interim they have affairs with other caribbean nationals and in the end who do they return to Barbadian WOMEN!
Thank you I think you are showing strong symptoms of juvenile dementia. You don’t convince me much. I am happy to have paid for my BSc at UWI, Mona and MSc in England. I am also a realist and not a dreamer. I am an articulate woman too. However, it is what it is. Thetruthdoeshurts!!!!
Amanda now all of a sudden you speak with uncertainty. instead of outright certain that what the gal said happened happen you now use phrases like “if this really happen”and “if she is lying” i knew you had it in you girl.
and to no headache over small minded ppl continue to spit your bullshit if it makes you feel better, continue to insult our ppl. i just hope our authorities continue to be vigilant on land, air and sea to keep our borders protected from WhOEVER threatens it.
just remember if you diss us we will diss you right back.
the truth hurts my mum always say. If it ain’t sticks and stone I don’t and won’t budge. I know we will get to the bottom of this, if The Barbadian Goverment even cover up this story and say they have no recollection then next time beware of our undercover investigators. We will get the truth in the end.
Btw, protect your borders by all means. It is your countries right (don’t affect me at all).
you know 100jan
i am going to leave one thought with you…if you could change this world to make it a better place what would that be…something for you to now say your prayers and think about. I think it is time you go to bed you are not the true spirit of Barbadian..you really behaving as if you are ready to war and we boast of a free education in Barbados where it should make its people smarter. but i am sorry to tell you that you are not showing that affection…dont read my words wrong when they are printed please…not all Barbadian are pleased with the way some of us Bajans behaves
Correction (country’s rights)
Thank you!
March 30, 2011 at 2:55 am
I am not worried about them.
I want them to give the same hue and cry for the invasion of that 12 year old’s privacy when the Jamaican immigration/customs strip searched a child (they refused to allow an adult to accompany the child).
When that is done then I will believe that the outrage the have on Myrie’s behalf is genuine rather than just seeking to destroy Barbados’ reputation which the majority of them seem to be bent on
Thank You!! when this is mentioned they all go quiet and side step it.
While I maybe showing signs of juvenile dementia I think that you are suffering from narcissistic personality disorder.
Enjoy the rest of your night.
Amanda you are one of those types of people that i would hope never called to jury duty or be a judge. you would send a person to jail before the case start properly. while your stance is guilty until proven innocent my stance is innocent until proven guilty.
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110217/lead/lead4.html
better being a narcissist than suffer from dementia, as I say we are only interested in the truth. The possibility does exist that she may be lying. However, it is not the first Jamaica Nationals cry abuse from Barbadian immmigration and not all of the are prostitutes, security guards etc. As a member of the CC we cannot take it lightly. If this is the way Barbados treat us then we need to look at how we do business. Fact is you ppl need to quit labelling in us. If that is how the Barbadian immigration will treat our citizen then I think your immigration officials are on drugs. Don’t get me wrong, it is their job to protect the border, but somewhere along the line I see paranoeia (side effect of drug taking).
Thank you, you enjoy your night as well. The truth shall set us free. The truth is important to me than to worry about our reputation/ image.
The lat time I checked they used brand Jamaica to sell Adidas, Clark’s Puma et al (See brands using our black, green and gold colour to market their merchandise). Nevermind branding us as the criminals of the Caribbean. The Jamaican Government need to look at ways to collect our Royalties, but that is another situation. Right now I want the truth and to protect our citizen’s human/ constitutional rights.
That is all.
I am sorry but the reason that Jamaicans are profiled abroad is through no fault of Barbados it is through your brothers and sisters doing.
It is because of their continued behaviour at home and abroad that has them being branded and put on the watch list of every nation.
We in Barbados do not say that this could not have occurred. However, what Ms. Myrie may not be aware of is the fact that the person to whom she was visiting is on a watch list of known traffickers. The Jamaican people and government do not know whether there is an ongoing investigation in place to target the known traffickers. Where the Government could have been saving Ms. Myrie.
The Jamaican people do not know the fate which Ms. Myrie may have been subjected to if she had been allowed to enter.
Maybe that should be your talking point.
Btw.
Symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder would be where the suffer has delusions of grandeur which are not in keeping with the reality.
@ Thank you, you don’t need to tell me who is a Narcissist. Don’t speak about ‘Jamaican profile abroad’. There is good and bad, let’s may that a few bad, of which I am not proud but hey watch list or not let me tell you this ppl still love brand Jamaica. It has been used to market so many product, some of which has been made in countries such as China and India. Last yr Adidas dedicated one of there line to Jamaica, so did Puma, Clark’s et al. There is the Dunn’s River brand in London, which sells Caribbean food. Need I go on. We are much loved than we are hated. Our Gov’t should look at ways to collect our royalties.
Anyways, it doesn’t matter who she was coming to Barbados to see. I am talking about the appalling treatment she received. You can cackle until God comes there is no way you can justify it. We cannot blame you guys from refusing her entry but there is a way to do things. DO YOU THINK YOU COULD ABSORB THAT IN THAT LEARNED HEAD OF YOURS? PERHAPS YOU HAVE A ONE-DIMENSIONAL BRAIN. Education is not always an end all.
@ Thank you there is good and bad associated with Jamaica and mostly good. When I went to Heidelburg in Germany and said I was Jamaican the reception was great. I have never told anyone abroad that I am Jamaican and get a poor reception. I don’t want that to change so I guess I wouldn’t visit Barbados.
At no point have you spoken on the issue of the 12 year old who was strip searched in Jamaica.
What about her rights?
Where is your outrage at that?
Is it that Barbados needs to read between the lines, Jamaica may protect its borders but Barbados cannot because it is:
a small island
jealous of Jamaica
does not have the same brand power
has very few famous people
afraid that a Jamaican will steal there men
are batty men
have juvenile dementia
are house slaves
are docile
Well we thank you for pointing out all of these factors.
If Jamaica wants to then it can heed the call of its citizens and withdraw from Caricom and the CCJ. However, that would be higher tariffs on the goods which they sell throughout the caribbean including their reggae singers who will be required to obtain work permits to perform abroad.
By the way, sometime last year the Privy Council recommended that the caribbean states deal with their own cases rather than going before the Privy Council.
@Thank You: Since you insist…I will repeat….we are also upset about what happened to the 12 year old young lady which is all the more reason why we are offended by the hate crime against Ms. Myrie…. if you took some time to read the article more objectively u would see that…
1. “The child was travelling on an early Monday morning flight to Fort Lauderdale with her father and a relative.”
The child was to board a flight to the United States and is subject to all post-9/11 regulations.
2. ” …a female security officer asked the child to remove her pants and underwear following an upper-body pat-down search.”
It is obvious that a foreign object was discovered during the pat down. TSA regulations require significant care in situations such as this (ROK shares my personal views on this one).
3. “My daughter’s father asked if he could be with her and the officer told him no. When my cousin asked, as she is a woman, she was also told no.”
It is standard investigative procedure to allow the child to be questioned without intimidation or coercion if contraband or explosives were found.
4. “It was when the officer saw (my daughter’s) sanitary pad in her panty that she asked her to put her clothes back on,” the mother said.
Please note the agent did not touch the child but instructed her to disrobe and subsequently discontinued after she discovered what the foreign object was. The child was not subjected to the degrading vaginal probing and verbal abuse Ms. Myrie claimed to have experienced while in Barbados.
There was no malice on the part of that agent in Jamaica compared to the one in Barbados who acted unprofessionally and treated Ms. Myrie with significant disrespect. As a parent I find the intrusion into the child’s privacy upsetting regardless of the circumstances and I empathize with the parents of the little girl and support them in their complaint about the system. To inject this article to draw parallel is quite disingenuous and it has in fact illustrated the opposite of your intent.
Actually no it does prove my point.
Ms. Myrie provided suspicious information to officials. As a result they assumed that she did not have good intentions and decided to search her bags. Nothing was a cavity search was done.
At this point the story disintegrates as on one hand it was the Customs, immigration and now today the Police who did the search.
By the way I have travelled from the USA while having my menses I went through the x-ray scan and at no point was I asked to strip so that they could determine what was the foreign object on my person.
Again, as I stated above your comments smack move of malice than a need to find out the truth.
If the USA and Jamaica can protect their borders from a 12 year old then why can’t we to a person who travelled from their country to a known human trafficker.
Also, I think we need to leave all of the conspiracy theories until the matter has been dealt with by the Government officials.
Oh hey guys, now it’s the police that did it. So first Immigration, NO CUSTOMS, NO IT WAS THE POLICE. Next it will be Pope John Paul who fingered Myrie.
This will now become an occupation for poor Jamaicans. Jamaicans who have never even heard of Barbados will soon claim that Barbados raped them and the flood gates open.
Miss. Myrie will be shut down for once and for all soon enough.
Wait maybe it was all 4 at the same time? Customs Immigration Police and Pope John Paul (his ghost) defiled poor Miss Myrie.
Really the lot of you Barbadians should be ashamed, saying how can we do this to someone else? A mere allegation from someone whom it is clear and when our own checks are done has never held a job beside, dancer/stripper/whore.
The same bajans that when their children are caught red handed with guns and killing people, they say “NOT MY BOY”
I really am ashamed to be Bajan for real. Because bajans are UNPATRIOTIC and really don’t deserve the free education that you get.
@ THank you. I suspect that Ms Myrie was branded without even finding any illicit substance. Right now it is best you sit back like us and wait for the investigation. Although I feel like the Barbadians are going to cover up this fiasco. The truth will come out one day.
bajans are just as outraged at what was alleged. not becuz ms myrie is a jamaican but because she is a human being. only after the insults and verbal assaults that alot of us have recieved from jamaicans are we reciprocating. before the investigation is finish we got them demanding apologies, organising boycotts. if ms myrie went through that ordeal as a human being i sympathise with her and am outraged by my customs department. will i act premature and demand heads roll? no, i sit and wait.
Most travelers don’t realise this but when they are in a border control area many of their civil rights are in effect moot. It is unlikely that anything will come of the lawsuit. Border control officers in any jurisdiction have very wide ranging powers of search and seizure that are quite frankly scary.
What the young lady describes is a body cavity search, not professionally conducted, but when you cut through the words that is what it was. Customs can legally carry out these searches if in the judgement of the officer they think it is justified. It is unlikely that any lawsuit on these grounds will have any success.
On being constrained in the cells, once again she is unlikely to have much success as the only people who can claim a right to enter a country are the citizens of that country.
She might have a case for defamation against the minister in question for in effect calling her a liar, but that’s about it.
Missing from your free education system is what is called, “Critical Thinking Skills.” The victim doesn’t have to know the occupation of the person who searched her. What is important is that she can identify the person who abused here. If Ms. X did the search and Ms. X is an immigration officer, but the victim says that Ms. X is a Customs Officer that is not important because all that is needed is the identity of the person who committed the act.
For this woman to give such detail description of what happened can only mean that she is either a victim, or liar who has a personal vendetta against the barbarian people or the Barbadian female who search her has a personal vendetta against Jamaicans coming to Barbados.
Based on the feedbacks from most Barbadians and your long history of mal-treatment of Jamaicans, based on the stories of various victims, I see no reason not to believe this woman’s story.
If this was done in Jamaica against a Barbadian, we the Jamaican people would be outraged at the culprit, just as we are with all criminals. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for ignoring the crime because of the nationality of the victim.
Jamaicans,you mean to tell me that you all stripped search a 12 year at the Airport,which is a FACT !and now you have the gall to support a known whore solely on an ACCUSATION?Come on ,you are living up to your reputation that you have some of the most illiterate people in the hemisphere.Look,the man who was to pick her up runs whore houses in Nelson St.and Bay St.,two well known red light districts.
I do not hate Jamaicans,as a matter of fact ,Bajans in general love Jamaicans,but when you all can talk about boycotting things from Bdos and the like,just remember it can work from both ends,and we import more from Jamaica than you from us.I am glad that it is heading for the Courts.Did Ms Myrie actually hired a Lawyer,or was one provided by the State? In any case she would eventually turn out to be a major embarrasment for herself,her Lawyer and her country.WAIT AND SEE!
@Michael: Evelyn Mensah was one of the 100 odd Ghanaians and Nigerians who were stranded in Barbados in 2008. She was taken into custody by our Immigration Department and was placed in a detention facility. Mensah subsequently reported that she was sexually assaulted by a male security officer….and now there is this hate crime claim by Ms. Myrie against your border agent… if you took some time to read the article more objectively u would see that…
1. “The child was travelling on an early Monday morning flight to Fort Lauderdale with her father and a relative.”
The child was to board a flight to the United States and is subject to all post-9/11 regulations.
2. ” …a female security officer asked the child to remove her pants and underwear following an upper-body pat-down search.”
It is obvious that a foreign object was discovered during the pat down. TSA regulations require significant care in situations such as this (ROK shares my personal views on this one).
3. “My daughter’s father asked if he could be with her and the officer told him no. When my cousin asked, as she is a woman, she was also told no.”
It is standard investigative procedure to allow the child to be questioned without intimidation or coercion if contraband or explosives were found.
4. “It was when the officer saw (my daughter’s) sanitary pad in her panty that she asked her to put her clothes back on,” the mother said.
Please note the agent did not touch the child but instructed her to disrobe and subsequently discontinued after she discovered what the foreign object was. The child was not subjected to the degrading vaginal probing and verbal abuse Ms. Myrie claimed to have experienced while in Barbados.
There was no malice on the part of that agent in Jamaica compared to the one in Barbados who acted unprofessionally and treated Ms. Myrie with significant disrespect. As a parent I find the intrusion into the child’s privacy upsetting regardless of the circumstances and I empathize with the parents of the little girl and support them in their complaint about the system. The agent in Jamaica appears to be doing her job. However, the same cannot be said about the agents in Barbados in the case of Ms. Mensah and Ms. Myries if her allegations are proven to be true despite the expected cover-up by by a politically weak government in Barbados and diplomatic grandstanding by a similar such government in Jamaica.
what evidence does the jamaican ppl in general have that myrie get finger rape? dem “feel so” “she said so”
WTF?
based on that alone the barbados government should apologise and be brought to justice.
man piss in muh pocket.
ONCE AGAIN GOING TO COURT IS A WASTE OF TIME, IF THIS LADY WAS REALLY FINGERED THATS WRONG, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THIS IS A DEAD ISSUE, THE ONLY THING A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO IS NOT LEGAL IN BARBADOS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS LOOK OUT, THE IMMIGRATION DEPT. WILL BE LOOKING FOR YOU, AND TRUST ME “SELLERS YOU ON THE LIST FIRST FOR DEPORTATION” @ $100.00 A HEAD I’M WILLING TO WORK PLEASE CALL ME (245-9721)
africanus you are so wrong
first thing you said and i quote “The victim doesn’t have to know the occupation of the person who searched her. What is important is that she can identify the person who abused here. If Ms. X did the search and Ms. X is an immigration officer, but the victim says that Ms. X is a Customs Officer that is not important because all that is needed is the identity of the person who committed the act.”
incorrect. that is like someone going to court to report being assaulted by a dark male and then coming back later and saying the man was a white albino of european decent. when you are accusing a country of malice you dont make those kind of errors.
i quote you again “For this woman to give such detail description of what happened can only mean that she is either a victim, or liar who has a personal vendetta against the barbarian people or the Barbadian female who search her has a personal vendetta against Jamaicans coming to Barbados.”
so you admit there could be other reasons why this accusation was made? from the “stories” she heard about barbados what is stopping her from fabrication based on the horror stories she heard around the campfire that all you bajans spew about us?
so far i have heard from you bajans that most bajan men are effeminate or outright homosexuals, that our women believe jamaicans are man tiefs, that we still bow down to massa, that we worship the white man. and the list goes on.
I am so glad now that this is going to a high court, so the truth and nothing but the truth will come out. And I trust it will be an international court where their can be no bias, so that all this hate talk can stop. We are all Caribbean people, and we should try to get along. We cannot live without each other, so please stop the hate, and let justice be done.
correction all you bajans should be all you jamaicans
anonymous sorry but i believe the damage has already been done
if an international court was to even rule in our favor or it was found that she did infact was lying. it brought out the beast in both nations
@ Dr. Suss
If I’m not mistaken you seem to have a particular interest in such events………… and I dare say you maybe Mr. Girvan or Comissiong?However,since you mentioned “OUR Immigration Department” I’m leaning toward being Mr. Comissiong.
1.The child was to board a flight to the United States and is subject to all post-9/11 regulations.
From since when do JAMAICAN officers have to comply with US law ? US CBP do their checks @ US port of entries.
2.It is obvious that a foreign object was discovered during the pat down. TSA regulations require significant care in situations such as this (ROK shares my personal views on this one).
Yet AGAIN,What does that have to do with JAMAICAN officers stripping a 12 year old girl !!!!!
3.It is standard investigative procedure to allow the child to be questioned without intimidation or coercion if contraband or explosives were found.
LOL,Are you serious ?The story also mentioned,””Unfortunately, we’ve seen incidents where two-year-olds ingested cocaine for trafficking. It is very sad.”
Does that mean 2 year olds are even questioned without their parents as well ACCORDING TO US REGULATIONS IN JAMAICA.
4.Please note the agent did not touch the child but instructed her to disrobe and subsequently discontinued after she discovered what the foreign object was. The child was not subjected to the degrading vaginal probing and verbal abuse Ms. Myrie claimed to have experienced while in Barbados.
How is it any different,telling a child that they cannot be with a parent during “probing” isn’t exactly comforting not to mention BY YOUR OWN COUNTRYMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!
The situation with Ms. Myrie is an allegation that both Governments need to discuss from the public heat to get the extent of what took place.
Let’s see how this whole thing goes over the next two days.I can see the people of Jamaica standing by the Myrie Story and the people of Barbados standing by the officer in question………
In that last part,I mean both sides will obviously be sticking to their version of the story that either side has told.The MAIN problem that I see is that are no clearly defined rules and interpretations are done solely from a country to country basis.
I think the promotion of what is called “FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT” should be scrapped by Caricom as it implicates the wrong message.There is absolutely NO such thing currently and I don’t think the Barbados Public at least from what I’ve seen and heard can accept that only “Skilled and Controlled Migration” throughout the CSME.
Well well welly well well..
Who knew that so many people here had actually accompanied Ms Myrie all the way through Barbados customs? That “innocent and abused victim” – no wait, I mean “drug trafficking prostitute hoe” seems to have inadvertently stirred up a real hornet’s nest.
As for the achievements we’ve bought up in our one upmanship against each other, come on children… Bajans this, J’cans that. Who needs other races to stereotype us? We’re perfectly capable of doing it all by ourselves.
Please hostile Bajans, shut up and sit down. Hostile Jamaicans, sit down and shut up. Let’s at least wait for further investigation on this before casting rockstones at each other.
In the meantime for those who want to talk about boycotting products because of discrimination, many Asian businesses still discriminate blatantly against their black customers. So… anyone want to start a revolution in the black hair industry? You know, just for starters…?
Bajans are perverts this is the type of things they engage in, thinking they can go around fingering people. i suggest all Caribbean country stay away from this Petifiler nation.
laugh affa badmind hehehe laugh affa dem again hehehe a weh dem grudge wi fa wi friend
watching boys and girls championship oh boy am looking at several merlene otteys and usain bolts in the making!! Jamaica to the flipping world awhoeeii
all dem cwan do and all dem cwan say a mighty god a lead way.
I-Octane “No Love Inna Dem” Song Lyrics
Chor:
All type a things them warn yo
Yo neva dis yo neva argue
Soh how them waa hide an corn yo
Them cyaa fine yo them a sen woman fi call yo
All type a things them warn yo
Yo neva dis yo neva argue
Soh how them waa hide an corn yo
Them cyaa fine yo them a sen woman fi call yo
Yo si di blood weh a run up inna dem
Mek badmine just stan up inna dem
thats why every organ numb up inna dem
L>O>V>E tell yo non up inna dem
Cash Flow di blood weh a run up inna dem
Mek badmine just stan up inna dem
thats why every organ numb up inna dem
L>O>V>E tell yo non up inna dem
Verse:1
Dem bwoy deh wi grudge yo fi yo toe fi yo footback
Grudge yo when yo a draw money when yo put back
Clashflow mi a warn yo when yo walk yo look back, caaw anytime yo wi get a cuff caff
Dem Boy deh wi grudge yo fi notnoh
Grudge yo fi sopmuh
Grudge yo fi yo shirt, dem wi grudge yo fi yo button
Cashflow dem grudge mi fimi greens caaw mi noh eat meat but mi a tell to dem wi grudge yo fi yo mutton
Tru
REP Chro X1
Dem grudge mi when mi eye open when mi eye lock
Dem grudge mi anytime mi fligh out when mi fligh back
An when mi drop inna mi yaad
MI fine out seh powder did sprinkle
Mi fine out seh oil drop
Cashflow mi wonder weh dem love
Cause everything dem grudge
Evry evrything dem grudge
I born red fi evrything
them waa I man dead fi evrythingggg… yeah!
Rep Chor X3
Outtro:
Dem grudge yo when fit
Grudge yo when yo sick
Grudge yo when yo song flap an when yo song hit
Dem grudge yo… Fi anything
Yeahhh dem grudge yo fi everything fi evrything yeahhhh
Hey them sick!
To Anonymous…kiss my brass bowl!
@yatinkieasy
its hurts dont it lmao!! Yeahhh dem grudge yo fi everything fi evrything yeahhhh
Hey them sick!
Yo si di blood weh a run up inna dem
Mek badmine just stan up inna dem
thats why every organ numb up inna dem
L>O>V>E tell yo non up inna dem
Cash Flow di blood weh a run up inna dem
Mek badmine just stan up inna dem
thats why every organ numb up inna dem
L>O>V>E tell yo non up inna dem
From Bob Marley to all the bajans out there slandering jamaican women calling dem prostitues
No woman, no cry (Repeat 4 times)
Said said
Said I remember when we used to sit
In the government yard in Trenchtown
Oba, ob-serving the hypocrites
As they would mingle with the good people we meet
Good friends we have had, oh good friends we’ve lost along the way
In this bright future you can’t forget your past
So dry your tears I say
No woman, no cry
No woman, no cry
Oh my Little sister, don’t she’d no tears
No woman, no cry
Said, said, said I remember when we used to sit
In the government yard in Trenchtown
And then Georgie would make the fire light
Log wood burnin’ through the night
Then we would cook corn meal porridge
Of which I’ll share with you
My feet is my only carriage
So I’ve got to push on through
But while I’m gone…
Everything’s gonna be alright
Ev’rything’s gonna be alright
Ev’rything’s gonna be alright
Ev’rything’s gonna be alright
Ev’rything’s gonna be alright
Ev’rything’s gonna be alright
Ev’rything’s gonna be alright
Ev’rything’s gonna be alright
No woman, no cry
No, no woman, no woman, no cry
Oh, little sister, don’t she’d no tears
No woman, no cry
No woman, no woman, no woman, no cry
No woman, no cry
Oh, my little darlyn no she’d no tears
No woman, no cry, yeah
any sister no she’d no tears, no women no cry
No woman no cry, no woman no cry
No woman no cry, no woman no cry
Say, say, said I remember when we used to sit
In a government yard in Trenchtown
Obba, obba, serving the hypocrites
As the would mingle with the good people we meet
Good friends we have, oh, good friends we’ve lost
Along the way
In this great future,
You can’t forget your past
So dry your tears, I say
No woman no cry, no woman no cry
Little darling, don’t she’d no tears, no woman no cry
Say, say, said I remember when we used to sit
In the government yard in Trenchtown
And then Georgie would make the fire light
As it was, love would burn on through the night
Then we would cook cornmeal porridge
Of which I’ll share with you
My fear is my only courage
So I’ve got to push on thru
Oh, while I’m gone
Everything ‘s gonna be alright, everything ‘s gonna be alright
Everything ‘s gonna be alright, everything ‘s gonna be alright
Everything ‘s gonna be alright, everything ‘s gonna be alright
Everything ‘s gonna be alright, everything ‘s gonna be alright
So woman no cry, no, no woman no cry
Oh, my little sister
Don’t she’d no tears
No woman no cry
I remember when we use to sit
In the government yard in Trenchtown
And then Georgie would make the fire lights
As it was, log would burnin’ through the nights
Then we would cook cornmeal porridge
Of which I’ll share with you
My fear is my only courage
So I’ve got to push on thru
Oh, while I’m gone
No woman no cry, no, no woman no cry
Oh, my little darlin’
Don’t she’d no tears
No woman no cry, No woman no cry
Oh my Little darlin’, don’t she’d no tears
No woman no cry
Little sister, don’t she’d no tears
No woman no cry
______________________________________________________________
Don’t cry women
WELL SAID June I am 24 yrs old and I am very disappointed the the reactions from both governments, especially Barbados because I am a Barbadian and expect much better. This situation should have been better managed from the start and want is happening now as really casting a awful light on us regionally; however, what is even worst is the bashing of each other that is taking place among our ppls at this time. We are trying to become something that we once were before the 1800s and that horrid trade, in my view we need not trash each other like this it is CHILDISH BEHAVIOR. Cooler heads need to prevail , to my fellow bajans just imagine that this lady was a Barbadian how would we feel. I think we would feel the same way may Jamaicans feel right now (angry). Let us not be defensive but be honest with our-selves customer service in Barbados needs to be improved especially at the ports so that all our visitors feel welcome and protocols need to be but in place so that this type of accusation can never be leveled without a robust and CREDIBLE response.
Side note: To those who believe this will destroy caricom just humble yourselves. A United West Indian state may not happen in our life time but I’m sure it will. Remember some of the most radical slaves died without ever seeing freedom and yet here we are today freed. Things (especially in this region) take time.
terry if this lady was a barbadian in jamaica i wud feel the same way.
i would wait until the full investigation is finish and do the exact same thing jamaicans are doing now AFTER it is shown that the country is guilty. not b4.
i wont go with a feeling that it happened
I am truly amazed at how quick most writers are to believe the young lady’s story and to condemn Barbados’ officials. One question that must be asked is whether a search of the female vaginal caviy area by a competent authority without permission of suspect is deemed to be illegal in Barbados or any other jurisdiction. I honestly do not know the answer. If it is legal and there are clearly defined parameters for such then one cannot truly conclude that Barbados’ officials acted in an unwarranted manner.
Secondly, the lady in question alledgly first claimed that it was immigration officials who searched her. Then we heard it was the Customs dept, now we hear that it was the Police. There seems to be some inconsistency here.
Next, we see this matter quickly engage the attention of the Jamaican politicians on both sides. We hear the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Jamaica demanding an investigation, and even when Barbados Foreign Minister concludes the investigation and publicly declares that evidence points to the cavity search being unfounded, Jamaica Government claims such is untrue and wants to escalate the mater to a toothless Caricom!
Meanwhile an Opposition politician in Jamaica takes on te case pro bono so as not to be outdone by the Government of Jamaica and threatens to take the matter to the International Court – a total joke.
I would wish to remind all that Barbados is still a sovereign state that can determine who can enter and who should leave its jurisdictions. No Jamaican or anyone else can freely, now should freely walk into Barbados. they cannot do it elsewhere.
In repect of Mia Mottley’s statement today, I can only say that the BLP is confused. Ms Mottley, who has close ties to Elombe Mottley who has been spouting anti-Bajan venom in his new land Jamaica really has no credibility on such issues. When she was Attorney General of Barbados not a word was heard from her about police brutality in Barbados on Barbadians; not a word from her when foreign women were subject to verbal an physical abuse when she was in charge; not a word when others were deported in droves under her.
I am amazed at how Bajans have turned against their own Government and public officers and are prepared to believe a Jamaican young lady who could not even get it right in terms of where or with whom she was staying.
Based on all that has transpired, I am beginning to believe that this young lady is really being used as a pawn on the chess table. The Jamaican Government is trying to deflect atention from the Dudus enquiry. There will be no winners here – only loosers.
jamaicans lucky, we bajans like to cry down our own at the first opportunity.
even tho nothing was proved yet. dem got bajan allies demanding apologies etc etc
Very well Contradiction I agree with you. I would like to think that I would wait for a full hearing of the facts before coming to a conclusion myself. However, I understand were they are coming from and instead of being defensive, and I’m not dealing with this situation in particular, we need to hear what is said and use it to improve. I’ve heard so many complaints about our immigration and customs agents at the airport and as reasonable man I cannot conclude that they are all totally baseless. Finally, in sensitive situation which require a physical search of a person ( is this really 2011) put procedures in place so that we can vigorously and without fair of contradiction substantiate our version of events. eg. Camera’s documenting visually and/or audio recorders, informing passengers of their rights before search, having a number of independent personnel present documenting events( caricom surrogate if necessary ), anything at all is better we just cannot have the statuesque were it is a he said she said situation.
I love Barbados I and I,m not saying we should apologies for accusations if we can prove that they are untrue, of course not. However I reiterate the point, we should not be subjecting woman to any degrading treatment especially not our own, and if this is the case at the airport I will not “bat a eye’ at condemning it. Anyhow, I hope cooler heads win the day and that ppl of good will on both side will resolve this situation amicable. The two governments should not war over this issue in public and the language they used in the media should be aimed at smoothing passions not inflaming them. I hope the Jamaican ppl will not allow sensationalism by so called professional journalist make them believe that Barbadians or Barbados has anything but the utmost respect for them and their Government ( This one of many certainly does). And I hope they can also understand that we are facing issues regarding a some of their nationals with respect to prostitution, drugs, and other contraband and help us do something about that. This is a underlying issue here that needs some ventilation. I hope my Jamaicans friends are not in denial about this. I just pray for MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING is this situation really intractable?
Terry,
Michael,
Amanda,
After reading your blog, it really proves that not all Bajans portray warped, uninformed views. The level of hate that some Bajans portray towards Jamaicans is remarkable.
Today i had a number of Bajans that called my radio programme and was very surprised with the number of them in Jamaica. They come across as honest, caring inviduals. I beckon all Jamaicans to stop visiting this blog, it is a waste of time.
Don’t get me wrong, the creators of this site comes across as fair, balance and clearly understand the tenets of good Journalism, being a media practioner myself. Do you see how some Bajans critized THE BARBADOS FREE PRESS for their headline with this blog? INTOLERANCE TO THE EXTREME.
There are a few Skums on this blog that present themselves as true Bajans and is only destroing the good reputation of their country and spreading hate.
What is going to happen? The Barbados Govt. is not going to admit it.
I don’t think the Jamaican Govt would admit it as well taking into consideration the embarrassment. The Jamaican Govt is sending a team to Barbados. If Ms. Myrie is correct, then both countries will settle at CARICOM and all signatories to the treaty will have to put things in place based on the rules, especially for the free movements of people and goods across the region, so that the action similar to the Immigration Officials in Barbados does not happen again.
Tell me, is it impossible for us, the descendants of slaves to work together for a common good? The Europeans removed all barriers despite their cultural and language barriers. Perhaps, when other regions strengthen themselves and we black people continue to spread hate and fight again each other, then we might go back to where we started, colonized!
As the great Caribbean icon, Bob Marley said, “free ourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind”.
I did Outside Broadcasts from Grenada and Antigua and find our Caribbean Brothers and sisters to be very courteous. We were planning to go to Barbados but postponed based on advice not to so due to the current tensions concerning the treatment to miss Myrie, especially the hate coming from Bajans. Safety comes first.
By the way, i saw Miss Myrie on TV several times. She is articulate and bright and I believe her story.
All in all, to all Jamaicans, don’t get into any cass cass with a few underprivileged despots who have nothing to do. The reason why their ego soars is because they think they have an audience. As soon as we stop, they will start to chip over themselves and fade away. I BEG OF YOU MY COUNTRY MEN. PEACE!
Terry,
Michael,
Amanda,
After reading your blog, it really proves that not all Bajans portray warped, uninformed views. The level of hate that some Bajans portray towards Jamaicans is remarkable.
Today i had a number of Bajans that called my radio programme and was very surprised with the number of them in Jamaica. They come across as honest, caring inviduals. I beckon all Jamaicans to stop visiting this blog, it is a waste of time.
Don’t get me wrong, the creators of this site comes across as fair, balance and clearly understand the tenets of good Journalism, being a media practioner myself. Do you see how some Bajans critized THE BARBADOS FREE PRESS for their headline with this blog? INTOLERANCE TO THE EXTREME.
There are a few Skums on this blog that present themselves as true Bajans and is only destroing the good reputation of their country and spreading hate.
What is going to happen? The Barbados Govt. is not going to admit it.
I don’t think the Jamaican Govt would admit it as well taking into consideration the embarrassment. The Jamaican Govt is sending a team to Barbados. If Ms. Myrie is correct, then both countries will settle at CARICOM and all signatories to the treaty will have to put things in place based on the rules, especially for the free movements of people and goods across the region, so that the action similar to the Immigration Officials in Barbados does not happen again.
Tell me, is it impossible for us, the descendants of slaves to work together for a common good? The Europeans removed all barriers despite their cultural and language barriers. Perhaps, when other regions strengthen themselves and we black people continue to spread hate and fight again each other, then we might go back to where we started, colonized!
As the great Caribbean icon, Bob Marley said, “free ourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind”.
I did Outside Broadcasts from Grenada and Antigua and find our Caribbean Brothers and sisters to be very courteous. We were planning to go to Barbados but postponed based on advice not to so due to the current tensions concerning the treatment to miss Myrie, especially the hate coming from Bajans. Safety comes first.
By the way, i saw Miss Myrie on TV several times. She is articulate and bright and I believe her story.
All in all, to all Jamaicans, don’t get into any cass cass with a few underprivileged despots who have nothing to do. The reason why their ego soars is because they think they have an audience. As soon as we stop, they will start to chip over themselves and fade away.
I BEG OF YOU MY COUNTRY MEN. PEACE!
Sorry for the placement without name. I give my full name, unlike some of the imposters who claim that theY are the voice of Barbados. Not the radio station VOB that my very good friend Elombe Motley that now live in Jamaica used to host a programme “DOWN TO BRASS TACK”.
Terry,
Michael,
Amanda,
After reading your blogs, it really proves that not all Bajans portray warped, uninformed views. The level of hate that some Bajans portray towards Jamaicans is remarkable.
Today i had a number of Bajans that called my radio programme and was very surprised with the number of them in Jamaica. They come across as honest, caring inviduals. I beckon all Jamaicans to stop visiting this blog, it is a waste of time.
Don’t get me wrong, the creators of this site comes across as fair, balance and clearly understand the tenets of good Journalism, being a media practioner myself. Do you see how some Bajans critized THE BARBADOS FREE PRESS for their headline with this blog? INTOLERANCE TO THE EXTREME.
There are a few Skums on this blog that present themselves as true Bajans and is only destroing the good reputation of their country and spreading hate.
What is going to happen? The Barbados Govt. is not going to admit it.
I don’t think the Jamaican Govt would admit it as well taking into consideration the embarrassment. The Jamaican Govt is sending a team to Barbados. If Ms. Myrie is correct, then both countries will settle at CARICOM and all signatories to the treaty will have to put things in place based on the rules, especially for the free movements of people and goods across the region, so that the action similar to the Immigration Officials in Barbados does not happen again.
Tell me, is it impossible for us, the descendants of slaves to work together for a common good? The Europeans removed all barriers despite their cultural and language barriers. Perhaps, when other regions strengthen themselves and we black people continue to spread hate and fight again each other, then we might go back to where we started, colonized!
As the great Caribbean icon, Bob Marley said, “free ourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind”.
I did Outside Broadcasts from Grenada and Antigua and find our Caribbean Brothers and sisters to be very courteous. We were planning to go to Barbados but postponed based on advice not to so due to the current tensions concerning the treatment to miss Myrie, especially the hate coming from Bajans. Safety comes first.
By the way, i saw Miss Myrie on TV several times. She is articulate and bright and I believe her story.
All in all, to all Jamaicans, don’t get into any cass cass with a few underprivileged despots who have nothing to do. The reason why their ego soars is because they think they have an audience. As soon as we stop, they will start to chip over themselves and fade away.
I BEG OF YOU MY COUNTRY MEN. PEACE!
Senator Maxine McClean does not want this issue to be discussed on call in programmes.Wonder why? maybe Clico should not be discussed on the call in programme either!!
Al Robinson you say BFP is demonstrating balanced journalism because its headline makes us Bajans look bad? You obviously are a newbie.You should know BFP always portrays Bajans and Barbados and its institutions in a bad light. Jamaicans have a bad reputation around the world for criminality and drugs. Jamaicans reputation in sports and culture otoh is very good. Bajans are law abiding people known to be orderly tolerant and literate.The Jamaican media took what Myrie said as the truth the journalistic tenet of it being an allegation until proven was left out by Jamaican media and that has caused much emotionalism. Us law abiding Bajans want to see justice done we must let the system work and the facts surface to see who is culpable until then its just an allegation. This woman could be lying.
Barbadians are treated with disrespect and hatred in most of the CARICOM islands we travel to but we dont run to our media complaining, if the woman wants to go to court let her do so and let the chips fall where they may let the truth come out.People like you Robinson are encouraging your countrymen to hate Bajans.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Barbadians-tighten-the-screws—More-Jamaicans-beaten–locked-up–kicked-out_8607625
Barbados the World is watching. Remember “Tourism” is needed for your Country to strive.
@Al Robinson concur bro. Let it be known that you enter as yourself and not hiding who you are. It is extremely hard reasoning with these folks here it appears that they ae not getting the point at all, everything is scattered in their brains and they only preach “HATE”. SAD! SAD! SAD! Indeed.
REMEMBER: If we are willing to be responsible for everything that happens to us, for everything that we do, we become free. My Bajan brothers and sisters are you there “YET”?
@Wait a minute most “BAjan’s” in this forum show no respect for themself, so how is it possible for them to show respect to others? Ask yourself that question?
Carol Boeth
March 31, 2011 at 1:36 pm
@Wait a minute most “BAjan’s” in this forum show no respect for themself, so how is it possible for them to show respect to others? Ask yourself that question?
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Sign up for a course in English comprehension fast. wtf.
It is amazing how all the “absent ” speak with such authority. I say..if you don’t feel welcome in a place…..DON”T GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Wait a minute comprehension and the likes of you do not go hand in hand my brother. 🙂
@ wait a minute
listen miss carol boeth comprehension is quite intact and by the way if u must know ur take on the english language is quite embarassing and annoying, thank god ur writing these blogs because trust me i would not want u to talk to me with the horrible tone, everything with u guys have to do with education thats all u got u go an do a course in how to sound like a human speaking standard english mr einstein!
I believed this story is TRUE, firstly why would someone publish this story if it wasn’t true. Bajans treat ALL OTHER CARIBBEAN ISLANDS the same. However the TOURISTS are treated with respect and are allowed without any questions. But other SISTER ISLANDS ARE LIKE CRIMINALS. We the people who come to barbados to spend our MONEY AND SHOULD BE TREATED THE SAME. Alot of CRIMES that happen in barbados are NEVER published, because there are afraid it would drastically interfere with TOURISM. I AM GLAD THAT THIS WOMAN STOOD UP FOR WHAT’S RIGHT.
@Anonymous are in school here? Deal with: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Barbadians-tighten-the-screws—More-Jamaicans-beaten–locked-up–kicked-out_8607625 and Ms Myrie
Based on what I have seen here, it should be clear to everyone that quantity in education has nothing to do with quality. It is a fact that even with Jamaica’s inadequate Jamaica system; we are so creative a people that we are able to produce more engineers, doctors and overall university graduates than the whole Caribbean combine. Most of these Jamaican go to North America and find jobs after college in the U.S.
I was in an electrical class in NYC, where you had Caribbean, Asians and of course Americans and the most frequent question is why so Jamaicans are studying electrical engineering or engineering. Of all the other Caribbean islands only one Trinidadian was studying mechanical engineering at that university. Two Jamaicans were studying mechanical engineering and close to 20 Jamaicans were studying electrical engineering. The final project of one of the Jamaicans was so good that he was given a scholarship to do his MSc. The other Jamaican now works in the design department at a Japanese US car manufacturing company. The head of the chemistry department at the university was a Jamaican professor who graduated from Harvard. There was also one Haitian and one Jamaican professor in the electrical dept. We were many and the few other Caribbean nationals usually come over and join our large gatherings. We were always proud to see Barbadians, Trinidadians, and Dominicans trying to improve their lives in the U.S.
Just down the road from us are Columbia University and the only Black PhD. engineering student was a Jamaican who got a scholarship directly from Jamaica to Columbia University. He told me that all the other students were Asians.
Franklin W Knight who occasionally writes for the Jamaica Observer is a professor at the Johns Hopkins University Department of History (see http://history.jhu.edu/Faculty_Bio/knight.html), Another Jamaican is Harvard professor Orlando Patterson who wrote the following books:
Patterson, Orlando (1965). The Children of Sisyphus.
Patterson, Orlando (1982). Slavery and Social Death.
Patterson, Orlando (1991). Freedom in the Making of Western Culture. (Later renamed Freedom, Vol. 1: Freedom in the Making of Western Culture)
• Patterson, Orlando (1999). Rituals of Blood: Consequences of Slavery in Two American Centuries.
• Patterson, Orlando (2006). Freedom: Freedom in the Modern World.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/orlando-patterson#ixzz1IBaT2s5K
The quality of our school system shows in the amount of Jamaicans who have achieved U.S. university scholarships; the most recent was SIXTEEN-year-old Damien Chang who got a perfect SAT score.
Tuesday, February 22, 2011
SIXTEEN-year-old student Damien Chang has created local history by becoming the first Jamaican student to earn a perfect 2,400 score in the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) for college admittance in the United States.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Jamaican-student-posts-perfect-SAT-score_8412404#ixzz1IBk17nTL
“Jody-Anne Maxwell from Kingston, Jamaica, was the winner of the 1998 Scripps National Spelling Bee at the age of 12. She was the first contestant from outside the United States and the first black student to win in the history of the competition.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jody-Anne_Maxwell.
There are many Jamaican university lecturers all across North America.
The chairman of Ryerson University in downtown Toronto is a Jamaican. Even the road which takes people to McMaster University in Hamilton Ontario, called Lincoln Alexandria was made in honor of a Jamaican who became the first mayor of that city.
Let me just close by saying that, we Jamaicans don’t prey on the weaknesses of our Caribbean neighbors. I have worked amongst all the Caribbean nationals and as much as some people from islands, other than Barbados and Trinidad, can boost about their education, the facts are not there to prove it.
@STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS, they do not get it. When words get out, they will certainly feel it where it “HURTS”.
This does indeed need to be researched further. Someone may not be telling the truth. On the one hand we had a couple gays in Barbados going Canada and seeking asylum by saying they were mistreated in Barbados only to confess they lied… We don’t know if she did the same but I feel it is a bit early for the Hon. Senator to say it could not have happen.
Sometimes people lie. http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/gay-scam/
What all Jamaicans and open-minded Bajans, like Amanda, are saying is that the Barbados government has the right to kick out disruptive people from their country. As a Jamaican, I am proud of how proud and protective you are of your country.
However, we are not saying that you don’t have the right to suspect someone and conduct a search. What we are all saying is that you should do your job in a professional manner. You cannot allow emotions and prejudices to influence your decisions. All despotic leaders and tyrants are ruled by their emotions. Hate and stereotype stem from emotions.
Now, a lot of bajans are condemning Jamaicans for believing this story, they then go on to say that we should wait for the investigation to reveal the truth, but in the same breathe and sentence, they are saying that no such thing was done. And it is for this reason why, I encourage them to get some training in critical thinking skills, because how can you lambast us for believing Shanique Myrie ‘s story, yet in the same sentence and breath you believe that she is guilty. This shows that you lack the ability to be objective, open-minded thinkers.
Now, if you go to a new country, at first, you won’t necessarily be able to distinguish the people in uniform, therefore what you think is an immigration officer, may well be a custom officer or a police office, but what you will get right is the color and physique of the person. The fact that Bajans believe that a mix up in the profession of the airport worker, is important just show that they are looking at the smaller issues surrounding this case.
Now, I will add a website where you can go to get some lessons in logical fallacies. The website is http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/tu-quoque/
“Tu Quoque Fallacy
Explanation
The tu quoque fallacy is committed when it is assumed that because someone else has done a thing there is nothing wrong with doing it. This fallacy is classically committed by children who, when told off, respond with “So and so did it too”, with the implied conclusion that there is nothing wrong with doing whatever it is that they have done. This is a fallacy because it could be that both children are in the wrong, and because, as we were all taught, two wrongs don’t make a right.
Example 1
(1) The Romans kept slaves.
Therefore:
(2) We can keep slaves too.”
The Bdos government should apologised to whom ?Ms Myrie ?No people ,it is the other way around !She should apologise for the hurt,hatred,and all that she has done to the people of Bdos and Jamaica .She is wasting her time making a living out of whoring .She and Ms.Rowe should be in Hollywood seeking out acting roles.Very good actors I must say !Since you were heading to the red light districts of Bdos,dont you think you should be heading to the US to be a porn star instead ?or were you actually using Bdos as a springboard to get there?Now that your hopes have been dashed,you have decided to let loose your venom and lies against Bdos.Bajans are not stupid,Myrie !You say you are depressed ?why ?because YOU know,that sooner rather than later,you and your partner WILL be ridiculed both in Jamaica and Bdos,when they find out about your concoctions.
I like how the story change from “immigration” to “police”. Next, “detention cell-mate” ?Who done it? Who shot JR as well.So many questions.I guess the trauma is affecting recollection consistency . I wasn’t aware as well that I had moved to France what with all these “neutrals” proclaiming BIM to be guilty till proven innocent. I guess the burden of proof lies with the accused these days.
I guess its easier to believe widespread corruption within the immigration and customs than to believe Ms. Myrie is a liar because a woman would never make up such a story. What does Ms. Myrie do, is she credible. Are Jamaicans behind her because she is credible or because she is Jamaican
@micheal
i honestly beleive that you r on the borderline, who r you to call a woman a whore, its obvious that u r having alot of hatred for jamaican women, what you grudge them too lol, the bajan prostitutes r smart they no where the money is so they r in the us and canada no need for miss myrie to go there cause the bajans women have already captured that market u doptodo.
Quite a few Jamaicans are calling into Voice of Barbados’ Down to Brasstacks today eh? The ones which I heard said they’ve had no problems with airport officials.
@Al Robinson
Are you not the same Al Robinson that was calling for a boycott of all Bajan products roughly two days ago?
http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/jamaican-officials-visit/
Finally some commonsense from our Government and senator McClean.
“The aim is to get to the truth . . . and the facts,” she told reporters at the Culloden Road, St Michael headquarters of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “Justice must be done and seen to be done.”
It was insensitive to dismisses the Jamaican lady’s case “of the cuff” as she had done in her earlier statements. Let us have a fully transparent investigation please. In the mean time, please improve costumer care and service at the ports ALL of our visitors deserve it.
@Africanus
Google the Jamaica Police Force then google the Royal Barbados Police Force.
Tell me what you see.
Drug Squad police officers usually have the word Police written on their Blue uniform in white.
Only special constables in Barbados carry Batons all other Police Officers carry guns. This is in relation to the guys who alleged that they were beaten by the Police with batons.
Artist: Elephant Man
Song: Usain Bolt Nuh Ling
Tell dem elephant man dem grudge wi fi wi music all we accent a style dem! so wi ago sweep deh weh, all haters drop a sleep nuh linga ayyy nuh linga
SWEEP!!! A whappen to dem Bolt?
Jamaica, Jamaica, Jamaica, SWEEP!!!!
Di fastest runner come from a we acre (SWEEP!!!!)
Jamaica, Jamaica, nuh linga, nuh linga, sweep dem up just like a paper
Chorus:
A history Jamaica a create dung a Beijing
Di whole brand new stadium nearly cave in
Usain start sweep and di whole crowd ragin
When di female runner dem gwaan win it was amazin
History we go create dung a Beijing
It’s like di whole stadium nearly cave in
Usain start sweep and di whole crowd ragin
When di runner dem gwaan win it was amazin
Verse 1:
Signal di plane! Sweep like Usain!!!
Jamaica bigger and we better and we faster than before
Improve so much since two thousand four
Rememba when we dominate all di world endured
Over and then grief a bare medal we a score
Jamaica now oonu love how we olympics dem dweet
Look how much country a face we and get defeat
When Bolt win di hundred meter yuh nuh see him weep
DANCE AND GI DEM A CLEAN SWEEP!!!!
Chorus:
A history Jamaica a create dung a Beijing
Di whole brand new stadium nearly cave in
Usain start sweep and di whole crowd ragin
When di female runner dem gwaan win it was amazin
History we go create dung a Beijing
It’s like di whole stadium nearly cave in
Usain start sweep and di whole crowd ragin
When di runner dem gwaan win it was amazin
Verse 2:
Jamaica shocked di world like country gwaan revolt
Usain a run strike dem like a lightnin bolt
Di tide is high but we movin on like John Holt
Faster than a bullet comin from a forty five colt
Di world seh dem shocked but we neva surprised
Cau we know seh Jamaica have di fastest man alive
Who a di hundred meter nine point six five
Buck up inna Shelly Ann and har bee hive
Chorus:
A history Jamaica a create dung a Beijing
Di whole brand new stadium nearly cave in
Usain start sweep and di whole crowd ragin
When di female runner dem gwaan win it was amazin
History we go create dung a Beijing
It’s like di whole stadium nearly cave in
Usain start sweep and di whole crowd ragin
When di runner dem gwaan win it was amazin
Jamaica to the world! peace
@Anonymous: You would have to be a Jamaican to understand what you wrote.
To Baje Gem:
Yes! The same Al Robinson, and i can tell you that it is going very successful.
i LIVE HERE IN jAMAICA AND I C
Innocent until proven guilty I always heard but I guess once this little island is accused it is the other way around . At least we know now how Jamaicans feel about us, no wonder they could never be Caribbean unity . I hope our local Immigration keeps up the good work keeping out undesirables and when they profile certain individuals it is with good cause and 99% of the time justifiable
De Jamaicans dem not all hignorant
@Help, I am no English teacher, but let me try and see if I can help you.
“Drug Squad police officers usually have the word Police written on their Blue uniform in white.”-help
The word “usually” may be defined as “more often than not.” Which means that the possibility exist that, while dealing with these Jamaicans, the police were not wearing IDs.
“Only special constables in Barbados carry Batons all other Police Officers carry guns. This is in relation to the guys who alleged that they were beaten by the Police with batons.” –Help
What you are saying is that it is impossible for these police at the airport to have batons. Oh, My God!!
i c there is two of us on here by the name anonymous i wonder what is going this not my name at first hmmmm way to bfp i love my country jamaica bfp hmmmm wats up with the confusion lol tricks in trade matches box in business
@rasta man u no wat i wrote but badmind stan up in a u so u cwan even comprehend lol
@Anonymous,You still got me !!!
To Baje Gem:
Yes! I am the same Al Robinson, and it is going on very successful.
The Bajan products in the supermarkets are not moving.
People are saying that because of the hate to us they do not trust your products because foreign objects could be included.
The blog that states that Jamaica buys less from Barbados. Here are the facts balance of trade facts for 2010.
JAMAICA PURCHASES ?????
WAIT A BIT.. STOP THE PRESS.. I just saw a headline on today’s Jamaica Observer “BARBADIANS TIGHTEN THE SCREWS -more Jamaicans beaten, locked up, kicked out of island”.
I would like to hear the Bajans opinions on this one.
Here is the latest in todays Jamaica Observer.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Barbadians-tighten-the-screws—More-Jamaicans-beaten–locked-up–kicked-out_8607625
@Africanus
the word police is stenciled into the uniform.
police do not carry id. they carry badge numbers which are on the shoulder.
@Al Robinson
only special constables carry batons. They are foot cops who do regular traffic patrol. All other officers carry guns.
Myster Roberrson, we bajans does doan beat people jess so, we ain like wunna mad people from jamaika.
Bajans are not a agreesive persons and we does doan feel up people jess so neider. I hear wunna does kill bullers in jamaika, is true?
Bajans doan kill bullers….we does let dem live an let live….we hear two dat wunna like tuh smoke grass …doh i cyan onnerstan why anyone would smooke whuh de cows duz eat.
Then wunna bring dis dutty wine ting. dat too i cyan onnerstan, why wud anyone want dutty wine, if iz bad, trow it way.
wunna also do tings whuh i hear is daggerin, when wunna having sex, an effin yuh use a dagger in sex, i cyan onnerstand whuh a finger got so much attenshun.
but really, dey aint got a bajan dat doan like jamaikans…we aint got nuttin so.
but nuff nuff bajans doan like drugs..an effin wunna brining drugs…to buhabyduss…we does get vex…
yuh have a gud day….even if after yuh have de dutty wine an smoke de grass an do de daggerin, i ent tuh sure i gun see wunna again…dat like soun dangerous tuh me…
To de igrunt Anonymous Poppit who said….”Bajans are perverts this is the type of things they engage in, thinking they can go around fingering people. i suggest all Caribbean country stay away from this Petifiler nation.”
Ef I wuz tuh meet you, ah would hol’ yuh down a trow couple licks in yuh!
HOW DARE you say such a thing?! You like you’z a idiot yuh! Just because of the scorn of one you want to degrade the many who call Barbados home! And you wonder why jamaicans get treated the way they do! Get over your ignorance and think next time you make such harsh statements like that! ASSHOLE!
372 comments….well 373 now…..must be a BFP record!
Jamaican’s do more business in Barbados than vis a vis. Hello?? Digicel—-, LIME—-, CMMB, Air Jamaica (on occasion), All the Jamaican artistes that does come to Barbados….
Correction **not** CMMB, I meant JMMB…. Also GraceKennedy… As mentioned LIME and Digicel are both Jamaica based.
Jaydene Thomas,Jamaican Attorney, living in Barbados. Please go home and keep your comments to yourself. Leave us with our small island, cou cou which Jamaicans claim is for the dogs, and our sugar dumplings. I forgot our rice and peas. You cook peas and rice.
Read the stories the three guys are alleged to have told the immigration officer!!
They will make you laugh.
The first time I went to the US was on my way back home from studying.
I landed at JFK.
I had two degrees, man I was heducated.
The immigration officer asked me what work I did to which I truthfully and factually responded “I am unemployed”.
Who tell me say so.
Straight to the little room!!
I learnt alot that day about heducation!!
A Jamaican moved to Barbados and bought a donkey from an old Bajan farmer for $100.00. The farmer agreed to deliver the donkey the next day.
The next day, the Bajan farmer drove up and said,
‘Sorry, but I ‘have some bad news. The donkey dead.’
De Jamaican said, ‘Well dat alrite, just gi mi, mi money back.’
‘Can’t do that. I spend the money already.’
De Jamaican said, ‘Ok, den. Just leave the donkey wid me.’
‘What are you going to do with it?’ the Bajan farmer asked.
Jamaican: ‘a goin raffle de donkey.’
Farmer: ‘You can’t raffle a dead donkey!’
Jamaican: ‘Yeah man. Watch. I nah tell nobody it dead.’
A month later the farmer met up with the Jamaican and asked,
‘What ‘appened with that dead donkey?’
Jamaican: ‘Bwoy the donkey raffle off. I sell 1000 tickets at $2.00 a piece
and make a profit of $1898.00.’
Farmer: ‘Didn’t anyone cuss?’
Jamaican: ‘just the man who win. So mi giv him, back him $2.00.
Jamaican: ‘yu have no cow a sell????’
Terry,
I did not intend to comment on this thread anymore, but I want to correct you. If you read the link that you attached to your comment, you will see that it was Jamaica’s Trinidad-based High Commissioner Sharon Saunders who said, “The aim is to get to the truth . . . and the facts,” and “Justice must be done and seen to be done,” not Maxine McClean.
Maxine McClean, much to my delight, is still standing firm like a true Bajan. All of the people who are threatening Boycotts against Barbados will learn shortly that when Bajans are threatened, we play along quietly for a while, but don’t back down. At the end of the day, we do what we think is best for us, and those who threaten us will have to do what they think is best for them. In this case, Jamaicans and others will be sent the message that they can proceed with their boycotts if they want to. We will not be fazed by them.
Sick folks. No compassion, love or understanding for others. SAD INDEED!! ” Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.”
If you are familiar with Jamaica, I can probably bet you (and win) you never knew half of these interesting facts on Jamaica. I myself was even surprised at some of these findings. Here you go!
• Jamaica has the most “churches” per square mile of any country in the world. Source-Guinness Book of World Records. Over 1,600 “churches” all over Jamaica. That number is growing.
• Jamaica was the first country in the Western world to construct a railway, even before the United States! This was only 18 years after Britain!
• Jamaica is the first Caribbean Country to gain Independence.
• Jamaica is the first team from the English-speaking Caribbean to qualify for the Football (Soccer) World Cup. This was the 1998 championship.
• Jamaica stands strong in 3rd place on the list of countries to win the Miss World titles the most! [Hmmm!] The only countries to have won it more than Jamaica is India, Venezuela and the UK, but considering the size of Jamaica, you have to say that this achievement is monumental!
• On his second voyage to the New World in 1494, the tip of the Blue Mountains in Jamaica was the first land sighted by Christopher Columbus.
• Jamaica was the first commercial producer of bananas in the Western Hemisphere.
• Jamaica also was the first island in the Caribbean to produce rum on a commercial basis.
• The Manchester Golf Club in Jamaica, established in 1868, is the oldest in the western hemisphere!.
• Apart from the United States, Jamaica has won the most world and olympic medals.
• 2006-2007: World Fastest man and woman- you bet, are Jamaicans [Asafa Powell and Sherone Simpson].
• Jamaica has more multiple (two or more) live births than anywhere else in the world.
• Jamaica was the first country to impose economic sanctions against the apartheid regime of South Africa.
• Jamaica is the third largest island in the Caribbean.
• Jamaica was the first Caribbean island to enact legislation, “The Motion Picture Industry (Encouragement) Act” to promote the making of films.
• Jamaica is the first country to sign a Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria grant agreement.
• Jamaica was the first tropical country to enter the IOC Winter Olympics. The bobsleigh team’s efforts inspired the film ‘Cool Runnings’.
• Jamaica was the first colony England acquired by conquest. This was in the year 1655 when the Spanish were driven from the island.
• We have the second largest butterfly in the world? (The Giant Swallowtail).
• Another of the interesting facts on Jamaica is that it was the first British colonial territory to establish a postal service (in 1688).
• Jamaica was the first Caricom country to liberalize the telecommunications sector. Since then, other Caricom countries have opened up to competition.
• Another one I found to be one of the most interesting facts on Jamaica is that Jamaica was the first country in the Caribbean region to launch a web site, jamaicatravel.com. This was in 1994!
• And if you know none of the above, (which is fine) I expect you at least know that Jamaica is the birth place of Robert (“Bob”) Marley [smile]
• that Port Royal in Jamaica was once labeled ‘The wickedest city on Earth’?
• that the Jamaican Flag is the ONLY flag in the world, that doesn’t share any of the colors of the American flag?
Now my friend, get out and share your new found knowledge of Jamaica
@Africanus
“• that the Jamaican Flag is the ONLY flag in the world, that doesn’t share any of the colors of the American flag? ”
That would have been cool but…..
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Gallery_of_sovereign_state_flags
However: Libya, Mauritania, Sri Lanka???
“Jamaica is the first Caribbean Country to gain Independence.”
???
Cuba, Dominican, Republic, Haiti (The world’s first Black Republic!)
@africanus,
Your list is so short but I understand space may not allow you so here are some more.
Jamaica is the first country in the English speaking Caribbean to operate a radio station.
Jamaica is the first in the English speaking Caribbean to get electricity in Black River.
Jamaica is the first in the English Speaking Caribbean to elect their first Prime Minister in 1962.
Jamaica’s former Prime Minister Edward Seaga was the first head of Govt invited to the White House by President Reagan when he was elected.
Jamaica was the first and only Caribbean to pull out of the 10 member West Indian federation. The federation calapse immedately with the Trinidad Prime Minister Eric Williams saying 1 from 10 leave 0.
Three cheers for the English speaking Caribbean first Prime Minister Sir Alexander Bustamante for backing out of the federation. Oh! Oh He is from Jamaica.
You know what? I leave the rest to Africanus to continue.
Al Robinson, so far Eastern Caribbean people have been abusing our people while they come to our shores study, holiday and live in total comfort. Yet, they keep messing with a lion that is sleeping.
Although the British conquered Jamaica in 1655, they really didn’t settle Jamaica in any comfortable way until about 1700, 45 years later, because once the maroons tiptoed from the higher grounds and saw them clearing the lands below, with their docile Bajan slaves, they would go down and burn them out. The British were mostly confined to the coastal areas of Jamaica. They could not settle the interior and this went on for 40 to 45 years.
We are hoping that this little disagreement between Barbados and Jamaica will be settled amicably, so that there will be no need to add number 140.
A Time Line of Rebellions in Jamaica
1. 1494 3 May Columbus discovered Jamaica
2. 1508 Year Columbus family propriety rights for Jamaica recognized
3. 1655 10 May British Capture Jamaica from Spanish
6. 1664 June Four hundred planters came from Barbados
7. 1664 July Sir Thomas Modyford came with 200 planters
8. 1670 Year There were 70 Sugar Works in Jamaica
9. 1673 Year Population 7,768 whites, 9504 Negroes, total 17,272
10. 1675 1 September 1100 Surinam Settlers Arrived (to St. Elizabeth)
11. 1678 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, Caused by prolongation of martial law
12. 1684 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, first serious one
13. 1686 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, sanguinary, at Chapelton, Clarendon
14. 1690 Year Slave Rebellion, Chapelton, Clarendon
15. 1691 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, many white people murdered
19. 1702 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, eastern districts
26. 1717 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, repeated attempts, causing great alarm
29. 1722 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, Musquito Indians introduced to quell it
34. 1734 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, the Negro town Nanny taken
35. 1738 1 March Jamaica, Rebellion, under Cudjoe
37. 1739 June Jamaica, Rebellion, under Quaco, in Trelawney
38. 1740 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, speedily subdued
40. 1745 Year Jamaica, conspiracy to assassinate the whites
41. 1746 Year Slave Insurrection
46. 1758 Year Jamaica, Rebellion in Trelawney
47. 1760 Easter Monday Jamaica, Rebellion, under Tackey; Port Maria, 60 whites 400 Negroes killed
48. 1764 Year Population 166,454 (146,454 Slaves)
49. 1765 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, Coromantees the insurgents
50. 1766 Year Jamaica, Rebellion in Westmoreland
52. 1768 Year There were 651 Sugar Works in Jamaica
54. 1769 Year Jamaica, conspiracy discovered in Kingston
55. 1771 Year Jamaica, conspiracy; assembly of 500 surprised by the militia
57. 1775 Year Population 209,617 (12,737 Whites, 4,093 Free Coloured, 192,787 Slaves)
58. 1777 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, followed by thirty executions
61. 1782 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, St. Mary’s under Three-fingered Jack
65. 1785 Year Population 30,000 whites, 10,000 free Coloured, 250,000 slaves
68. 1793 Year 2nd Maroon War
70. 1795 July Jamaica, Rebellion, Trelawney Maroons
71. 1795 2 August Martial Law, Montego Bay destroyed by fire
72. 1796 Year Jamaica, Rebellion, Maroon War; 600 transported to Nova Scotia to Sierra Leone
74. 1798 Year Jamaica, Rebellion,under Cuffee; Trelawney great destruction of rebels
75. 1803 Year Jamaica, conspiracy to murder the whites discovered
78. 1808 27 May Jamaica, Mutiny of Black Troops, 2nd WIR, Fort Augusta
79. 1808 Year Jamaica, conspiracy of a very serious character
80. 1809 March Jamaica, conspiracy against the whites in Kingston
97. 1831 28 December Slave uprising in St. James, Trelawney, Hanover, Westmoreland, St. Elizabeth, Manchester
98. 1832 Year Jamaica, Rebellion; 200 killed in the field; about 500 executed
100. 1834 1 August Slavery Abolished
107. 1841 Year Riot in Kingston
114. 1865 11 October Morant Bay Rebellion
139. 1962 6 August Independence from Britain
Sources:
“Important Dates in the History of Jamaica”, compiled 21 September,1988 by Madeleine E. Mitchell, amended
November 18, 1996
“Pictorial”, Ernest Henriques de Souza J.P., 26 August 1986
“A Record of the Jews in Jamaica from the English Conquest to the Present Time”, Jacob A. P. M. Andrade, 1941
The government needs to deport all of these foreigners before they destroy the country.
You should respect each other and refrain from disputes; you should not, like water and oil, repel each other, but should, like milk and water, mingle together.
Take personal responsibility. Never think “it’s not my job”. It’s a cop-out to say, “What can I do, I’m only one person.” You don’t need everyone’s cooperation or anyone’s permission to make changes. Remember this little gem, “If it’s to be, it’s up to me.”
❤ 2 u all.
Check the video rasEdison on Youtube . No where else in the world would you see such. It speaks volumes. Bajans let’s rest our case !
Well well, its a small wonder with all that rebellion that all your people can’t get along with your one another let alone anyone else! and tell us, are you actually listing these rebellions as achievements? because l0oking at you all today we have to ask -what did it achieve for jamaicans?
The statisitics and facts that can be read by any fool about jamaican crime anywhere doesn’t make for good reading, so is it any wonder that people are suspicious of jamaicans. This is a rod you lot have made for your own backs and needs to be cleaned u by yourselves. Jamaicans get touched up in britain and american airports much worse but not such a big deal is made of it so why are they trying to make such a big deal out of this? mistreatment must be tackled everywhere but maybe its more acceptable from the white man for jamaicans.
People everywhere are very wary as to how you jamaicans work at being devious and when you don’t get your way you make the most noise (like empty barrel) its high time jamaicans wake up to the fact that all the back biting and jealousy you are known for is catching up with you, there are so many other websites where people are complaining about jamaicans stink atitude and abruptness, cutting your eyes, staring aggressively, begging in private and boasting in public. Always dealing with the past because your present sucks but yet you always talk about your artists and althletes, if your island is sinking and stinking under – gang, ghetto and garrison plantation politics and corruption how come these so called suck-cessful people can’t help their own and why are jamaicans fleeing jamaica and coming to complain in barbados???
AS I SAID, CAVITY SEARCHES HAPPENS TO JAMAICANS IN THE DEVELOPED WESTERN COUNTRIES AND ITS BECAUSE YOU ARE KNOWN FOR DRUGS CRIMES -PERIOD right from ben johnson with drugs in sport and others like dwane johnson (sprinter) let alone buju banton and that big crime lord (don) that caused a big international case between jamaica and the USA christopher deadass coke – drugs, drugs, drugs drugs, and it isn’t ganja either. I hope you get the point. if jamaicans are not happy with bajan hospitality just g’long.
It seems there is now a clear Barbados/Jamaican division. Everyone wants to think they are right. I think people should let the investigations be done and let justice take its course. Instead, I am now seeing posts of Jamaicans issuing threats to Barbadians and this is where I will now get involved. MOST Jamaican nationals are overly aggressive, rude, worthless and the list is endless. I have come into contact with some and the end result was not nice at all. They leave their country, come to Barbados and look for trouble. Let me state though that I am simply speaking of my personal experience with them. There is no need for them to be hurling threats around to people of my country. Would this not drive home the point further? I have always heard that Jamaicans don’t like bajans and since this incident reared its ugly head all of them are at our throats. If Barbados and Barbadians are so horrible why are they all flocking here by the thousands? Food for thought.
If I was a Jamaican politician I would milk this for all its worth. Drown out the noise fro the Dudus inquiry.
We in Barbados must do all we can to protect our borders. Perhaps the time has come for the installation of full body scannners. Frequent travellers beware! What will be the long-term effect of all this exposure to radiation
Africanus you boast about the rebellions and the Maroons. You should also boast about how they signed a peace treaty with the British and agreed as part of that treaty to return any other slaves who ran away to the British instead of allowing them to join the Maroon community. What an example of Jamaican sell outs huh?
To add to the list of famous bajans –
Lynn Taitt credited with creating the sound SKA born in trinidad to bajan parents. his arrangements and guitar style dominated jamaican music in the 60s he played on records by Derrick Morgan, Desmond Dekkar, Lee Perry, Ken Booth, Bob Marley, Joe Higgs amoung others. THE POWER BEHIND THE THRONE!
Crop over began in 1688.
Earley bajan calypso was called BANJA SPOUGE music created by Jackie Opel in the 1960s.
The man who wrote the song DAY-O daylight come an me wan go home, was BAJAN.
J Albert Thorne born in Barbados 1860 (schoolteacher) introduced the back to africa idea to jamaica. Started the African Colonial Enterprise distributing pamplets about the back to africa movement and set the stage for Marcus Garvey. THE POWER BEHIND THE THRONE!
BAJANS -Arnold josiah ford and Mignon Ford spaer headed the first back to africa mission in the 1930s. Created the treasured universial ethiopian anthem – Ethiopia thou land of our fathers, the land where the gods love to be.
Prince Hall -BAJAN, clergyman and abolitionist born 1748 Established the African lodge of the honourable society of free and accepted masons of boston in 1775. The first lodge of black freemasons IN THE WORLD and fought in the battle of Bunker hill. died 1807.
The gullah dialect of the carolinas resembles the BAJAN dialect. The carolinas of america being settled by bajans as early as 1660.
Bari Johnson -Bajan and pioneer on jamaican media and drama landscapes, worked extensively with Jamaica Cultural Development Foundation,formerly The Festival Commission,
THE POWER BEHIND THE THRONE!!!!
Furthemore someone was boasting about jamaican products on shelves, the Jamaicans have been recieveing help from the British government for a long time thats why their athletes and artists got the boost in britain and a man with a song and a sauce, but that doesn’t explain why jamaica is such a mess and relies on sex tourism -thats what has made your island popular since the sixites, when the USA came up into jamaica kicked all rasta ass and made your own police bun down your ganja fields (the USA took what they wanted though) sex tourism is what they left you with (rent-a-dread and miss rubup on the beach) from the yougest to the oldest do it. There is child sex trafficking, prostitution, garrison gang culture that has caused the worst gun and drug crime in the whole of the carribbean not to mention the incest rate is so high that a prominent lawyer down there wants the men to be castrated. The Young girls and women are getting raped off down there at a phenominal rate that expains why there are 3 million of you let alone america or canada. Canada in nova scotia is where the british government made a deal with the maroons to move them to after slavery. THE MAROONS were a group of slaves that were marooned on that island after the spanish left, after which the british used the island to put all the slaves that went mad on all the other islands onto jamaica.
I don’t know where Africanus got all those first from but they can easely be dismantled. The nearest crossing from the west coast of Africa where all the slaves were taken from initially to the carribbean is into BARBADOS and thats where the planters set up the first parliament. From there the whole of the carribbean was ruled by the british and while some countries like jamaica boast of independence they still come under british overseas territories (owned by the queen ) in other words.
Jamaicans still live a hand to mouth existance and rely on the british government. Jamaicans in britain have even been recruited to spy for MI5 in their own communites against their own people, just so they can have a JOB.
Oh yes and they are so craven for jobs they also spy in the work place to knock out anyone whose not jamaican.
I don’t know what all the boasting is about but it all looks like non- sense in light of the facts, don’t it?
@Grant Lee. It could be another way to try and get more publicity for Jamaica as well….. After all, didn’t the Jamaican government tell Barbadian authorities that they were pros at dealing with a media crisis/manipulating media to have a favourable outcome?
http://www.nationnews.com/index.php/articles/view/jamaica-touts-benefits-of-media-links/
Jamaica has been in the news quite a bit this week.
http://www.mmdnewswire.com/million-international-ponzi-fraud-and-money-laundering-scheme-34247.html
@Maroon, this is how most people interpret what happened, but they don’t read enough to understand what they are actually saying.
Are you saying that the same people who were rebelling against the British were also returning slaves? Wouldn’t it make sense that those maroons who were captured were allowed to live in peace if they promise the British to return runaway slaves? Given the fact that there were rebellions over a 150 year period, it doesn’t make sense that the British were fighting the same maroons who were returning runaway slaves.
Young maroons turned old men and later settled down. In order for them to live in peace they have to agree not to accommodate run away slaves.
Barbados, why are you people so stupid, the same prejudice you have against jamaicans, is the same the racist white people have against blacks, you fools. So you bajans can continue acting like you some black kings, but you will always be a Nigger like us jamaicans, to the white man. To the ediot above they say the same thing about black people being aggressive, violent, criminals, I know when you bajans here people say things about black people that is not true, you feel bad because most of the time they are not true, they are just stereotypes. So don’t put all jamaicans in the same pot as if we are all the same. Jamaicans are loved worldwide unlike Barbados who are unknown to the world. Jamaica is the best island in the Caribbean full stop.
@Isis, I have placed the timeline of rebellions to show the absurdity of the arguments coming out of Barbados. We have a history of rebellion and you are saying that we hate Barbados, yet inspite of the social state of our country, our history and your claims that Jamaicans hate Barbados, no Barbadian was ever abused in Jamaica. Never!!
Most of the ideas in your heads are the result of your own insecurities. If Jamaicans hate Barbados prove it to all of us. Search the internet for online conversations between Jamaicans and bring the results here to show that, before this incident, we spend our time fussing about Barbados. Now go and do the same about you hating on Jamaicans and see how easy it is to prove your hateful obsession with Jamaica.
The facts will show that although you claim to be the civilized ones, you have shown more contempt for Caribbean nationals than any other people.
Yes maroons stop fighting the british and sold out their fellow runaway slaves (when the price was high enough)negotiations were struck after slavery.
jamaica was once well loved – past tense. now its just known for violence and crime, not only in jamaica but whereever your people are and when its
its not that-its for your backstabbing. Even in your own cultural history bag-owire sold out marcus garvey, a jamaican called archie had something to do with the killing of Malcomn X and not to mention someone shot after bob marley, corrupt police in jamaica killed Peter tosh as well as other dead artists.
STOP bleating on about your stupid sex tourism, everyones fully aware of that. You can look at any report from any organisation and see facts about yourselves, stop decieveing youselves jamaica. The tourist who come now stay on the resorts and are warned to do so. The ones who return are living in the past reminesing about your glory days when in actual fact everything has changed horribly. Jamaica is a land of natural beauty but even that is changing with the pollution from hotels and chemical factories down there – have you checked that out recently!
As you can read from others on this site, bajans are equally well known and our island is well loved too, plus nobody complains about us around the world but when people trouble us and assume we’re a soft touch then our teeth and claws come out, alright!
@Not so fast, thanks for the correction.
@Guest, you are angry and confuse. When people are angry, during a conversation, I get the impression that they don’t know what they are talking about. When you can compose yourselves and behave like a civilized human being then we can talk. I want logically strong arguments, not emotions.
I turn long held beliefs on their heads. Just claim yourself and proof your case about the maroons so that I can counteract.
Calm yourselves and correct the logic of your first sentence.
Taking into consideration, the global recession and Jamaica’s high crime rates, here are some figures for repeat visitors for Barbados and Jamaica. The numbers may vary, but as can be seen, Jamaica has a much higher percent of repeat visitors than Barbados.
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[Jamaica] Tourism arrivals up 12.7 per cent in March
Josef Forstmayr to be named president of CHTA soon
BY AL EDWARDS
Friday, April 09, 2010
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/tOURISM-NUMBERS_7524489#ixzz1IJvGJ6tw
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1. Jamaica enjoys 52 per cent repeat visitor arrivals – Business …
Jul 23, 2010 … I can double visitor arrivals to Jamaica tomorrow morning. I can double the spend which is low but can be higher. I can increase the foreign …
https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/…/Jamaica-enjoys-52-per-cent-repeat-visitor-arrivals–Bartlett_7820874
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• Caribbean Vacations – Tropical Barbados Vacations
More than forty percent of visitors to Barbados are repeat visitors each year. Barbados is a charismatic island with a unique charm and warmth: with mile after mile of …
http://www.gemsbarbados.com/barbados.asp
all these lists of achievements and still a jamaican cannot travel no where in the world without a border patrol official taking extra precautions against them bringing illegal drugs or illegal activity to dem country. smh.
WOW!! Angry Black Folks.UMMM! OMG!!
@Africanus. I can’t say yes or no because I don’t know about it. But some blacks still resent that some African persons (on the continent) sold other Africans into slavery.
It is interesting to know that Bajans have such a grudge and hatred for us Jamaicans, and I see it manifested in many of the comments made here. We are reacting now, but for quite some time now, I have the understanding of the hate that fills most bajans against us…. I am not going to attempt to analyze the cause of this, but you can rest assured that I am one Jamaican who doesn’t have much time for you Bajans either. However, unlike you, it isn’t hatred; it is indifference. If you don’t like me, I don’t like you either; and you would never find me on your shores. Do be careful though, because if you do harm to our people, harm will come to yours. This is inevitable. If you mistreat our people, we will do the same to yours. Now if this is not the road that you want to travel: Shut up and learn to stop your “ass-kissing” ways, and treat people as you would like to be treated…. You can’t use your ugly brush to paint every Jamaican as being the same. It would be equally wrong of me to say that all Bajan men are homosexuals. (Now you all know your reputation in the annals of sexual misdirection….) There is something useful that might come out of you kicking us in the teeth at this point: It might cause us to unite and take care of our Island, so that we can leave yours alone…. So much for CARICOM?????
Isn’t it funny that when people make comments about others being emotional they’re are the worst, look at this warren j above, and why is it that jamaicans continually ignore the fact that there is pure gay man on their island, even Ian flemming the spy and writer of the James Bond films lived in Jamaica and he was a big gay(batty) man and loved little jamaican boys -FACT. What about J FLAG down there too.
MOST of the repeat tourist to jamaica are those same peadophiles from britain and america thats got the catholic church in ruins, let alone the Irish with their Magdelene laundries etc. Furthermore its jewish money that has conrolled what comes into your island for a long time, thats why you all have the same mad churches on every corner as if thats helping you. the jews are satanists and responsible for slavery of the african continent that is suffering from the same problems as jamaica but they are dealing with their sell-outs by killing them…..
This is in reply to the comment left by @JA. What gives you the audacity to insult Barbados and the people of Barbados? We don’t dislike ALL Jamaicans just because we are bored and want something to do. SOME of your people have brought it about on themselves and our reaction towards them is most certainly justified. I have a couple Jamaican friends and I think they are nice. On the other hand I have met some that are rude and extremely obnoxious. It is rather nice of you to think that your country is the best in the Caribbean, kudos to you my dear as you seem to be patriotic but sadly this is far from the truth. At this stage there will be a lot of hatred leveled towards Barbados and at the end of the day so many Jamaicans come here and set up camp in MY country. As I have said before and I will say again some Jamaicans are rather rude and they could do without coming here. Please don’t blame my fellow Bajan posse for the animosity geared in their directions. Peter will pay for Paul …. you know how it goes, I hope.
Dr Suss you have explained the issue about that 12yr old girl so often even the illiterate in Jca (as they say) would understand. The fact that these literate ones on here keeps repeating it means either their literacy skills questionable and the statistics reported in their country wrong etc.
So if Ms Myrie doesn’t possess a university degree? Should that mean she should be ill-treated? or cannot give account of the fact that she was abused? A lot of educated ppl are prostitues, besides we don’t know if Ms Myrie was one.
Btw you ppl are so damn concern bout your image, but are doing a rotten job at protecting it.
I am not going to stoop to your level and preach hatred against the Barbadian ppl, or even stereotype them.
C’mon my fellow Jamaicans, it is a waste of time commenting on this site. Esp sincemost Bajans here a showing off how bigotted and immiscible they are. It is ok for Bajans to flock to other countries, but feel treatened when others visit their shores. What sim’ting.
@ Proud Bajan, I pity you. Guess it goes both ways for the Bajans coming to set up camp in Jca too. You are pathetic, anyways let me not waste time and adjectives on you.
Correction: BARBADOS was and is the first and only first country in the world to produce RUM.
We are trying to point out how hypocritical Jamaican’s are on this issue.
Here you are up in arms over the Ms. Myrie’s issue and the same thing is happening in your back yard.
You all on several occasions noted how stupid Barbadians are as a people how the people on this thread have shown nothing but disgust against Jamaican’s however the first pot shot on this thread was by whom a Jamaican.
As noted above while each country has a lot to lose from this fall out if it is that you decide to boycott Barbadian goods and services and withdraw from Caricom what do you expect will happen. Barbadians will retaliate!
This will only escalate the problem because while we may stand to lose millions from our exports to Jamaica our Business people may only be forced to seek out those emerging markets which they are not afraid to enter. Which is a good thing.
Conversely, Jamaica may lose a lot more not only the fallout from the loss of exports to Barbados, companies may start to think twice before hiring Jamaican nationals, Reggae artist will be required to meet the stringent Immigration Rules currently in place for obtaining work permits.
While we admit that several Barbadians work and reside in Jamaica compared side by side which one of us will also have an economic loss. Remittances from the diaspora is what aids the Jamaica government with its foreign reserves and these remittances include those from Barbados.
By the way the withdrawal of Jamaica from Caricom would mean that all Jamaican’s who enter into the Caribbean job market would be prevented from doing so as they would no longer be classified as a skilled Caricom national.
Which ever scenario that the Jamaican’s decide on it should be noted that not only Barbados will suffer from it but Jamaica as well.
We in the Caribbean cannot survive without each other FULL STOP. PERIOD.
So stop that rhetoric and come to terms with the fact that each Caribbean nation is parochial and while we spout this one Caribbean vision we are all nationalistic, however we all need each other.
we are supposed to just sit and watch as jamaican bloggers drag us through the mud. yall would realise is that it was these same jamaican bloggers who are cussing and dissing us. all we are doing is responding and then hearing that WE are the ppl propagating hate? i guess we arent the DOCILE and passive slaves that yall thought we were and it is shocking to you that we are responding to your crude and unwarranted attacks.
@ J. Payne, Africans who blame themselves for selling each other don’t understanding the slave history of the world. Although I have never taken a history course, I have an in-depth knowledge of what took place from the time of the Egyptian Empire to our modern time.
Anyway, when put in its proper context and considering the technological inferiority of a besieged people, nobody who has taken the time to study the maroons or the African people can say they sold out each other.
When the British captured Jamaica there were about 1500 Africans under Spanish rule in Jamaica. Some of these Africans were killed, some captured and some took to the hills. How much took to the hills we don’t know, but one thing that is sure is that as time went on English soldiers, hunting dogs, hundreds, if not thousands of Mosquitos Indians, the local mulattos and people from Cuba were brought to Jamaica to contain these brave men who were fighting for their freedom. This means that
The book entitled, Maroon Societies, Rebel slave communities in the Americas, by Richard Price is a compilation of different works. Chapter 14 was written by Bryan Edwards. On page 236, he wrote, “For in 1738, governor Trelawney, by the advice of the principal gentlemen of the island, proposed overturns of peace with the maroon chiefs. Both parties were now grown heartily wearied out with this tedious conflict. The white inhabitants wished relief from the horrors of continual alarms, the hardship of military duty and the intolerable burthen of maintaining an army. The maroons were no less anxious for an accommodation: they were hemmed in, and closely beset on all sides; their provisions destroyed, and themselves reduced to so miserable a condition, by famine and incessant attacks, that Cudjoe afterwards declared that if peace had not been offered to them, they had no choice left but either to be starved, lay violent hand on themselves, or surrender to the English at discretion.”
As far as I know, there are no records to say that although the maroons agreed to return runaway slaves they ever honor this agreement or how many slaves they returned, because they were in competition from other bounty hunters to capture runaway slaves.
The purpose of the British army was to capture runaways and suppress the maroons. Maroon participation was a minor part of this campaign.
@Africanus
Thank you for the history lessons.
Hope you have had the opportunity to educate your country men on their history as well.
It is sad that with so rich a history that the Jamaican nationals which are highlighted are those who bring a negative connotation to your country.
With these history lessons as well as the incident Jamaican’s can no decide that we will no longer allow these people to drag their name through the mud and portray your country as drug infested and violent society.
Jamaican politicians will distance themselves from this Garrison school of thought.
Barbados is a small country where nothing remains hidden and we can guarantee that the truth with this Myrie saga will come out.
@guest, you seem to lack the ability to focus.
I have already concluded that most bajans suffer from the same psychological defeats of right-wing haters. You imagine things, you revel in the failures of others and find some of the most outlandish explanations why people fail or succeed. You can never get a right-wing hater to admit to the truth. I presented to you the facts of the percent of return visitors and before you admit that the facts show that Jamaica has a higher percent of return visitors and that your claim were based on false information; you switched to some wild propaganda, and start disrespecting people. Something is wrong with all of you. All of these hate about Ian Fleming and Malcolm X killers are all new to me and can only be the vocabulary of minds stuck in the gutters.
You cannot reason with emotional people because they are not rational.
My granduncle use to say, “It is easier to wring water out of iron, than to put knowledge into fools.”
so africanus, one question. with all our accolades and achievements and better this and that and higher return rate. tell me why jamaica is so poverty stricken and has such a bad reputation? is it a case that the world just hate jamaicans? tell me why worldwide border patrols are extra vigilant when you are concern, tell me why the world’s view on jamaicans are aggressive and rude.
you gave us a lesson in history now give us a lesson in reality.
Africanus attack on me is completely emotional and stupid as ususal.
you are someone who will sit on this website forever talking rubbish when everyone knows the truth anyway! look at the way you tried to couch the fact that maroons did infact SELLOUT their fellow slaves -(they were in competition eh? Its you who can’t ADMIT anything let alone deal with PRESENT DAY JAMAICAN problems.
This is what makes people fed up with jamaicans, all your double talk and double standards as well as living in the past and always talking about your tourist figures which don’t mean anything, peodophiles like the phillipines too and their tourism is very good because of it. What is that saying for Jamaica’s problem with drug crimes there and abroad – Jamaicans are over represented in prison systems in, America, Canada and England and these countries are beginning to throw jamaicans out or not let them in – in the first place. Apart from being POOR despite all that tourism you talk about, drugs from colombia flows through your country and the guns from america with which you shoot and kill each other. You have the worst murder rate DEAL WITH THAT and stop making personal attacks, anyone can read your the biggest Hypocrite on this site.
The whole point of this argument was about this jamaican woman who CLAIMS she had bad treatment at a barbados airport – well if its true anyone who did that should be fired – IF on the other hand she’s a liar, prostitute, drugs mule or trouble maker I hope the barbados government throws her in jail with some hard lesbians then she’d really know what a finger fuck is!
The fact that she wants top lawyers from jamaica to come into barbados to TEST ours is turning this into HYPE anyway. It should be dealt with according to bajan procedures first, then if she’s not satisfied like with any other country she can call for redress, but NO already for attention seeking sake Jamaican media are making a meal out this. After the Christopher deadass Coke affair do you know how many Jamaicans were thrown out of the states, and they’re still throwing you lot out – Fact!
If there continues to be unexplained murders in barbados, then Barbados should throw all your asses out- In barbados you live by our laws like anywhere else – if you don’t like that or us – DON’T EVEN BRING YOUR ASSES THERE- SIMPLE.
Barbados doesn’t need jamaicans for anything. I want this issue to be squashed quickly because it brings out the ignorant. Pure investigation, proof, then we’ll see.
All barbadians need to do is SPY on all non- nationals to find out who is doing what on THEIR island -JUST LIKE AMERICA AND ENGLAND AND CANANDA, thats why these countries want all your details the minute you land and when you over stay they come looking for you!!!!!!
Most jamaicans could do with going back to their homeland anyway especially the suckcessful ones -artist and athletes because you can’t just RELAY ON TOURISM and as much as you all boast even that isn’t doing it for you so i can see what jamaicans want a media circus. HA HA
HERE WE ARE JAMAICA, SOME FACTS ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS!
sexual abuse and exploitation, but the police and child authorities have never seen the need to document the activities of local paedophiles
Police statistics show 700 to 900 sex abuse cases against minors annually, but the authorities believe many more cases go unreported and undocumented.
The majority of the perpetrators are males, but the police statistics do not identify offenders by age grouping, only indicating that they are over 17 years old.
Local experts define a paedophile as anyone who is sexually attracted to and molests a child five years his or her junior, but legally Jamaica has labelled the offence ‘carnal abuse’ or ‘incest’.
Available statistics from the police on sex crimes against children – which include buggery, carnal abuse, incest and rape – indicate that every year, hundreds of children under 16, the legal age for sexual consent, are the targets of predators.
Inspector Grace Gordon at the Centre for the Investigation of Sexual Offences and Child Abuse (CISOCA) in Kingston and St Andrew insists, however, that a single case is one too many.
“From the standpoint of the centre, I can safely say that a lot of children are being affected by paedophilia,” said Gordon.
In March alone, CISOCA had 11 carnal abuse cases.
But: “One is too much,” said the policewoman.
Data from the statistics unit of the Jamaica Constabulary Force show that:
In 2005, recorded sexual abuse cases involving children under 16 included:
. 337 cases of carnal abuse, with 320 of the perpetrators over 17 years old;
. 380 cases of rape, with 350 of the perpetrators over 17 years old; and
. 14 cases of incest, with the majority of the perpetrators being the children’s fathers.
In 2004, the numbers were higher:
. 409 cases of carnal abuse, with 373 of the perpetrators over 17 years old;
. 465 cases of rape involving children under 17 years old, with 406 of the perpetrators over 17; and
. 32 cases of incest, with the majority of the perpetrators being the children’s fathers.
Two of the more disturbing cases in 2005 involved the double rape and murder of two primary school girls – Shanna Kay Legister, 9, and Sheneka Shakes, 8 – in Town Head, Westmoreland, whose bodies were found inside canefields near their school, a day after they were reported missing on June 30; and the abduction, rape and murder of a six-year-old girl, Shaneika Anderson, from a food market, downtown Kingston on May 1.
“I can tell you that the police are anxious to find this little girl’s killer,” Corporal Troy Anderson said in June 2005 of Shaneika’s killing.
“The savagery of the murder shook up many persons, including some hard-core policemen and women, and they have vowed to find her killers.”
Both cases have gone unsolved.
There are indications that the island’s problem with paedophilia runs deeper than that reflected in the statistics.
Dr Sidney McGill, a family and clinical sex disorder therapist, is not surprised by this. The reality, he noted, is that not every case of paedophilia is reported or even acknowledged by some parents.
McGill theorises that there is an ’embarrassment’ factor.
To acknowledge the abuse, he said, is to bring to the fore inadequacies that many people and parents feel.
“The reality of it is so traumatic and brings out a lot of the deficiencies in the Jamaican family structure, which includes problems of economics and not having a father in the home. And so a mother, for example, does not want to accept (that her child has fallen prey to a paedophile) initially,” said McGill.
“You also have some mothers who are very over-protective and the child feels claustrophobic and does not feel that they can go to their parents.”
Children, said McGill, who is also head of the Ocho Rios-based Family Counselling Centre of Jamaica, may also have difficulty talking about the incident since the paedophile is usually someone they trust.
“It could be the Sunday School teacher, a close family friend, a neighbour, a cousin or so on,” said McGill.
“You are angry with the perpetrator but he is also somebody that you think highly of. The thing about paedophiles is that they are so very secretive and a lot of times, the children they offend are known to them and they are very well liked. They bring them into their own confidence and into their own trust. So when they offend the child, though the kids know it is wrong, this is also somebody who has treated them very well.”
The victims of paedophilia, meanwhile, are left with emotional scars.
“The effect of paedophilia is awesome,” noted psychiatrist Terrence Bernard. “The child is going through a lot of developmental changes, growing not only physically, but also psychologically. If sex occurs at a time when it really should not be happening, then the effects are going to be damaging.
Rape has a deleterious effect on an adult who is fully grown. The effects are multiplied in a child because of the effect on their development. Their development may be arrested or it may be warped in some way.”
They also, he said, have to contend with issues of sexual identity.
“The damage, which occurs includes the effect on the child’s sexuality. Some children will respond by becoming sexually inhibited. Some will respond by becoming promiscuous,” explained Bernard.
“Many of them think that what happened to them is their fault. This compounds the situation because they experience guilt and shame, in addition to the fears, anxiety and other emotions associated with a traumatic experience.”
Bernard also identified paedophilia as being among the ways in which children were exposed to homosexuality even as they run the risk of themselves becoming sexual predators.
“Homosexual paedophilia is one of the ways in which young people enter into homosexuality if it is done by someone of the same gender,” said Bernard. “Boys may be molested by men and girls may be molested by women. In other words, it becomes a form of initiation into homosexuality. The victims sometimes become sexual predators themselves.”
It is against this background that parents are encouraged to keep the lines of communication open with their children, even as they see to their supervision.
“We just have to beg the parents, the caregivers to spend some time with your children.
JAMAICAN CRIME STATS: Top Stats All Stats
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> % of managers surveyed ranking this as a major business constraint 54.44 % [1st of 38]
Car thefts 258 [50th of 46]
Corruption > % of managers surveyed ranking this as a major business constraint 45.56 % [2nd of 39]
Courts > % of managers surveyed lacking confidence in courts to uphold property rights 26.67 % [34th of 39]
Frauds 1,149 [47th of 48]
Jails 7 [51st of 80]
Murders committed by youths 2 [72nd of 73]
Police 7,033 [41st of 47]
Prisoners 4,744 prisoners [95th of 168]
Prisoners > Female 7.3% [13th of 134]
Prisoners > Foreign prisoners 4% [48th of 86]
Prisoners > Per capita 176 per 100,000 people [43rd of 164]
Prisoners > Share of prison capacity filled 117% [62nd of 128]
Sentence Length 2 [32nd of 21]
Total crimes 39,188 [47th of 50]
Transnational Issues > Trafficking in persons > Current situation
Jamaica is a source country for men, women, and children trafficked for the purposes of sexual exploitation and labor; information suggests that women from the Dominican Republic and Eastern Europe are also trafficked to Jamaica for sexual exploitation; women and children are trafficked internally from rural to urban and tourist areas for sexual exploitation; there may also be trafficking for domestic servitude and forced labor
Transnational Issues > Trafficking in persons > Tier rating
Tier 2 Watch List – Jamaica is placed on the Tier 2 Watch List based on the determination that it is making significant efforts to undertake future action
United States extradition treaties > Date signed June 14, 1983
United States extradition treaties > Entered into force July 7, 1991
Unpaid diplomatic parking fines 0 [129th of 143]
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SOURCES: World Development Indicators database; The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention); The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention); The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention); World Health Organization: World report on violence and health, 2002; International Centre for Prison Studies – World Prison Brief; All CIA World Factbooks 18 December 2003 to 18 December 2008; Wikipedia: List of United States extradition treaties ; Cultures of Corruption: Evidence from Diplomatic Parking Tickets Ray Fisman Edward Miguel Columbia University and NBER University of California, Berkeley and NBER 2006
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Jamaica, a small island nation (4,411 square miles) in the Caribbean, with a population of 2.6 million has had a stable democracy since it attained independence from Britain in 1962. The World Bank classifies the country’s economy as Lower Middle Income; the gross national income is US $2,820 (PIOJ, 2005a). Children under age 15 years constitute 31% of the population; individuals under 25 years represent 50%; the working age (15-64 years) population represents 65%; and people over 65 years comprise 7% (World Factbook, 2006; Williams, 2001). In keeping with the promotion of the country as an exotic and hedonistic destination, tourism is the leading industry (Dunn, 2001). However, the island scores low on many of the social indicators of child well-being. There is widespread poverty and a widening social gap between the rich and poor as evidenced by concentrations of extreme wealth, a shrinking middle class, and a stagnant economy (Brown, 2001; World Factbook, 2006). The country is plagued by double-digit inflation, a large debt (135% of the Gross National Product), a huge and constantly increasing exchange rate, mounting civil unrest, a vigorous illegal drug trade, and gang violence (Harriot, 2002; World Factbook, 2006). The adolescent fertility rate is high (112 per 1000 births) with 85% of Jamaican babies born to unmarried mothers and 50% without a registered father (World Bank 2002). In 2002, an estimated 19.7% of the population lived below the poverty line (PIOJ, 2005a).
The State of the Poor in Jamaica
UNICEF concerned by child abuse data
UN body wants greater Gov’t intervention
Jamaica Observer
Wednesday, August 04, 2010
ALARMED by evidence of persisting child abuse, UNICEF is applauding efforts by the Office of the Children’s Advocate to protect Jamaican children.
In a release today, UNICEF said it supported the call by Children’s Advocate Mary Clarke for Government to increase investment in child care and protection, covering also state care.
UNICEF cited data from the accident and emergency units of public hospitals for January-June 2009, covering children aged 0-9 years old:
– 314 children suffered from burns;
– 372 were accidentally poisoned;
– 468 suffered blunt injuries; and
– 121 were sexually assaulted.
For the same period in 2009, boys and girls aged 10-19 years accounted for:
– 26.2 per cent of all intentional injuries;
– 30 per cent of all stab wound cases;
– 35 per cent of all attempted suicides;
– 17 per cent of all psychiatric cases; and
– 61 per cent of all Jamaicans who reported being sexually assaulted (mainly girls).
During the period March 2009 to March 2010, 2,093 children went missing and only 1,020 returned home according to data collected by Betty-Ann Blaine’s organisation ‘Hear the Children Cry’.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/UNICEF-concerned-by-child-abuse-data#ixzz1IRboyupw
Here are the reasons why your people are poor and desperate, don’t ever point at or accuse bajans – wait for the facts of this case until then all of you jamaicans can chew on these facts and the ones above, NUFF SAID!
Crime and Tourism – The Reality:
The threats to tourists in Jamaica follow in ascending order of importance:
Harassment: Outside of the resorts, regular harassment can be expected to varying degrees. If you are white, and driving around, expect to hear regular yells of “White man!”, “White bwoy!”, “Joe!”, “Jakes!”, etc, in most districts, whether urban or rural (this does not apply to Kingston and the corporate area, where the population is more mixed – it primarily applies to the western half of the island). Ignore all of this and keep on driving – you’ll get used to hearing it eventually, and it will then be less irritating. When walking or bicycling (and we do not recommend this), things can be more intense. You will be approached by people who are very insistent that you stop and talk with them. If you do not, you will be accused of disrespecting them, and berated in an intimidating way. If you do stop, tremendous pressure will be put on you to give them something (money). You cannot win either way. Keep in mind that they are unlikely to chop you, so don’t fear for your life, but it’s not particularly enjoyable having to put up with that crap. Bottom-line: don’t walk – drive.
Theft: In Jamaica, if it is not locked-up, or nailed-down, it is liable to be stolen. This does not just apply to tourists and their touristy things, but to farmers, shop-keepers, and environmental NGO’s. It is a rare person, whether tourist or resident, who has not had something stolen in Jamaica (having your car broken into is a given, unless you, or an employee, keep a close eye on it). You must always be on guard for this. Even if you are very careful, the thieves will get to you eventually. When it does happen, don’t blame yourself for having slipped-up – consider it as inevitable.
Road-blockages: Obstructing roads with debris, burning tyres, etc, has become a popular pastime in Jamaica over the last few years. This can happen for almost any reason, from an increase in electricity rates to a local case of food poisoning. It is unpredictable and liable to happen on any main road at any time. This would only be a matter of inconvenience if it were not for the riff-raff who take the opportunity to rob those whose cars have been brought to a halt by it. Although the resort bus drivers are careful to bypass the disturbances (they’re keeping tabs on things with cellphones), it makes travel on the highways dicey for tourists and residents alike.
Stray bullets: Jamaica has many people running around with guns who have no problem using them. The murder rate in Jamaica is currently jockeying for top position with Colombia and South Africa, with Jamaica pulling ahead. In past years, the gunfire primarily occurred in Kingston and Spanish Town, but it’s now spreading out. St James (Montego Bay parish) has seen increasing levels of violent crime (murder), as well as all other parishes. At this time, the chance that you will catch a stray bullet (meant for someone else) while standing on a main street in many of the tourist centres of Jamaica is not zero. Fortunately, there are fewer gunmen in the bush than in urban areas, so the further you get from town in Jamaica, the better.
Homophobia: If you are gay, don’t even consider stepping foot on the island. Not only is it illegal to be homosexual in Jamaica, some Jamaicans believe that gays should be killed. The primary musical genre, Dancehall, is replete with songs that encourage this [4], [5], [6]. This belief is often acted upon, such as with the recent murder of Steve Harvey.
Rape: There are many single female visitors who come to Jamaica for sex, using the hired services of the many rent-a-dreads who congregate around the resort areas. Unfortunately, because of this, most single white women who come to the island are now regarded as being there only for that reason, and will be harassed accordingly. In Jamaica, “No means no” is not recognized amongst some segments of the male population and harassment can lead to worse things. If you are a single female, be very careful about whom you let become your friend, no matter how good the patter. [For those women who are hiring the male prostitutes, it must be noted that the island has a very high incidence of HIV, and as you already know, condoms are not popular in Jamaica.]
Murder: As noted above, Jamaica is one of the most murderous countries on the planet. Tourists are not generally exposed to this risk (much of it is tribal politics in Kingston), but it cannot be disregarded. To be clear on this: Your chance of being intentionally murdered while being a tourist in Jamaica is relatively low, but not as low as visiting Cuba, or Costa Rica, or a hundred other countries. If personal safety is the main concern with regard to your vacation, go somewhere else.
Crime and Tourism – What to do:
It’s possible to visit Jamaica successfully, without being cooped-up in a resort, if you’re an experienced traveller, have your wits about you, are cognizant of the risks, and can tolerate the harassment. However, if you’re a generally naive sort of person, and head out into the hills alone expecting to travel through paradise, harsh cold reality may soon intervene. If you can handle it, no problem. If you’re not sure, forget about it.
Those who don’t entirely trust their own abilities to deal with the real Jamaica can still get off the beaten track by linking with the right people, such as Accompong Town, Miss Lilly in Coxheath, et al. We’ll try to get more info and links up on that as soon as possible.
The Jamaican Caves Organization
Crime and Tourism – The Reality:
The threats to tourists in Jamaica follow in ascending order of importance:
Harassment: Outside of the resorts, regular harassment can be expected to varying degrees. If you are white, and driving around, expect to hear regular yells of “White man!”, “White bwoy!”, “Joe!”, “Jakes!”, etc, in most districts, whether urban or rural (this does not apply to Kingston and the corporate area, where the population is more mixed – it primarily applies to the western half of the island). Ignore all of this and keep on driving – you’ll get used to hearing it eventually, and it will then be less irritating. When walking or bicycling (and we do not recommend this), things can be more intense. You will be approached by people who are very insistent that you stop and talk with them. If you do not, you will be accused of disrespecting them, and berated in an intimidating way. If you do stop, tremendous pressure will be put on you to give them something (money). You cannot win either way. Keep in mind that they are unlikely to chop you, so don’t fear for your life, but it’s not particularly enjoyable having to put up with that crap. Bottom-line: don’t walk – drive.
Theft: In Jamaica, if it is not locked-up, or nailed-down, it is liable to be stolen. This does not just apply to tourists and their touristy things, but to farmers, shop-keepers, and environmental NGO’s. It is a rare person, whether tourist or resident, who has not had something stolen in Jamaica (having your car broken into is a given, unless you, or an employee, keep a close eye on it). You must always be on guard for this. Even if you are very careful, the thieves will get to you eventually. When it does happen, don’t blame yourself for having slipped-up – consider it as inevitable.
Road-blockages: Obstructing roads with debris, burning tyres, etc, has become a popular pastime in Jamaica over the last few years. This can happen for almost any reason, from an increase in electricity rates to a local case of food poisoning. It is unpredictable and liable to happen on any main road at any time. This would only be a matter of inconvenience if it were not for the riff-raff who take the opportunity to rob those whose cars have been brought to a halt by it. Although the resort bus drivers are careful to bypass the disturbances (they’re keeping tabs on things with cellphones), it makes travel on the highways dicey for tourists and residents alike.
Stray bullets: Jamaica has many people running around with guns who have no problem using them. The murder rate in Jamaica is currently jockeying for top position with Colombia and South Africa, with Jamaica pulling ahead. In past years, the gunfire primarily occurred in Kingston and Spanish Town, but it’s now spreading out. St James (Montego Bay parish) has seen increasing levels of violent crime (murder), as well as all other parishes. At this time, the chance that you will catch a stray bullet (meant for someone else) while standing on a main street in many of the tourist centres of Jamaica is not zero. Fortunately, there are fewer gunmen in the bush than in urban areas, so the further you get from town in Jamaica, the better.
Homophobia: If you are gay, don’t even consider stepping foot on the island. Not only is it illegal to be homosexual in Jamaica, some Jamaicans believe that gays should be killed. The primary musical genre, Dancehall, is replete with songs that encourage this [4], [5], [6]. This belief is often acted upon, such as with the recent murder of Steve Harvey.
Rape: There are many single female visitors who come to Jamaica for sex, using the hired services of the many rent-a-dreads who congregate around the resort areas. Unfortunately, because of this, most single white women who come to the island are now regarded as being there only for that reason, and will be harassed accordingly. In Jamaica, “No means no” is not recognized amongst some segments of the male population and harassment can lead to worse things. If you are a single female, be very careful about whom you let become your friend, no matter how good the patter. [For those women who are hiring the male prostitutes, it must be noted that the island has a very high incidence of HIV, and as you already know, condoms are not popular in Jamaica.]
Murder: As noted above, Jamaica is one of the most murderous countries on the planet. Tourists are not generally exposed to this risk (much of it is tribal politics in Kingston), but it cannot be disregarded. To be clear on this: Your chance of being intentionally murdered while being a tourist in Jamaica is relatively low, but not as low as visiting Cuba, or Costa Rica, or a hundred other countries. If personal safety is the main concern with regard to your vacation, go somewhere else.
Crime and Tourism – What to do:
It’s possible to visit Jamaica successfully, without being cooped-up in a resort, if you’re an experienced traveller, have your wits about you, are cognizant of the risks, and can tolerate the harassment. However, if you’re a generally naive sort of person, and head out into the hills alone expecting to travel through paradise, harsh cold reality may soon intervene. If you can handle it, no problem. If you’re not sure, forget about it.
Those who don’t entirely trust their own abilities to deal with the real Jamaica can still get off the beaten track by linking with the right people, such as Accompong Town, Miss Lilly in Coxheath, et al. We’ll try to get more info and links up on that as soon as possible.
The Jamaican Caves Organization
It has come to my attention that buju banton’s real name is myrie (excuse the spelling)the same as this woman thats complaining that our airport officials abused her, i think this was a set up considering that they knew buju was going to lose and this is an attempt to get money, and considering the media hype around it, it sounds like a conspirarcy.
Have our authorities do a background check on her, check it out and further more the death of DENROY DAVIS needs to be looked into as his cousin in england was targeted by jamaican gang run by jewish/ irish gang from london’s notorious east end, and unbelieveably it involved Venessa feltz, Edwina Curry (MP) and Alan Sugar, all jews. They had her tracked by phone, followed and attacked by jamaicans, took her education away, and her and her sons teeth driiled by a zionist dentist. DO NOT PANDER TO THESE JAMAICANS AT ALL. check out what i said and if you find that link is there between buju and this girl(as in sister or cousin), and the story of denroy and his cousin in england then you know this is a deliberate attack on bajans, thats being hyped and jews are behind this. I suspect foul play. The nation news paper ran the article about Denroy this week and then cetain staff at the paper were laid off(the ones who want to investigate properly) I want it all looked into by our high commission and investigative special teams.
Post a thank you to BAJAN and i’ll be in cantact
Bajans are really a bunch of ediots, look at all the lies these people come up with, what you bajans ediots need to do is mine you own damn business, you never see a jamaican researching anything about Barbados, but you niggers know a lot about us, you seem to only be pointing out the bad about us, most jamaicans don’t even know about Barbados, we jamaicans don’t think about you. You are modern day house negros, I hope one day, you will be judge, harrass, hated just for being black and then you will know hope it feels, because it happens everyday around the world, I will advice you house Nigger bajans to please google ” CHIMPOUT.COM ” you will see how white people and other races view blacks, not Jamaican or Haitians but niggers that’s what they say, you will see how they make fun of black people being executed, that black people are monkeys, apes, that blacks are criminals etc. Then you will begin to get a view if how they feel about you niggers, I warn you don’t go on that site if your a weak black person. Bajans your are fools thats all I can say.
CHIMPOUT.COM, CHIMPOUT.COM, chimpout.com, go on that site dumb ass bajans and all other house niggers out their. Bajans maybe you should go on that site and side with your white friends, because it seems you all have something in common example hating black people. O i forgot to tell they don’t say Jamaican or bajans they say Niggers because all niggers are the same, all deserve to die.
Jamaican Posses
Street gangs in the United States and Jamaica
Jamaican gangs, known as posses, formed during the 1970’s around Kingston, Jamaica. Although members of a given Jamaican posse tend to originate from the same neighborhood in Jamaica, notable exceptions include the Rat Posse, all of whose members have killed Jamaican police officers; the Hotsteppers, composed only of Jamaican prison escapees who have been convicted of a capital offense; and the Shower Posse, so named from its practice of showering victims with bullets. Between 1985 and 1992, more than 4,000 U.S. homicides were attributed to Jamaican gangs.
Jamaican Drug Trafficking Organizations (JDTOs), also referred to as “posses,” “crews,” and “massives,” are generally mobile, loosely knit groups that engage in a variety of criminal activities including; drug and firearms trafficking, money laundering, murder, assault, robbery, kidnapping, and fraud. They deal in several types of drugs, including cocaine, marijuana (ganja), heroin, and PCP. There are also the One Order and Clansman gangs, known mostly for extortion. The gangs have threatened residents and accused them of being police informers.
Violence is an integral part of JDTO operations and their members are usually well armed with modern weapons. Violence is most often directed at individuals perceived to be a threat to their illegal ventures, but they have little regard for bystanders. They are particularly brutal using torture, dismemberment and other extreme measures to intimidate rivals and members. JDTO members often resist arrest and have been in a number of shootings with law enforcement.
While JDTOs have been characterized as loosely knit, they have an extensive national and international network to carry out their illegal activities.
Historical Overview
Jamaican crime groups adopted a distinctly named “posse” to distinguish each group. They began as street gangs in Jamaica. Their formation was based on political affiliation, neighborhood, or group characteristics. For example, the Waterhouse Posse is from the Waterhouse area of Kingston, Jamaica
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The Shower and Spangler Posses are the oldest, largest, and most organized in the United States. The Shower Posse derives its name from the reputation of showering victims with bullets. This group supports the Jamaican Labor Party. Based primarily in Miami and New York, the Shower Posse has expanded to at least 15 other states and Canada.
The Jamaican Posses originally began trafficking in marijuana. Marijuana routes to the United States were established in the early 1970’s. Today the Jamaicans’ drug activity has extended to cocaine, particularly crack and is facilitated by airstrips and networks which were established to support the marijuana trade.
NOTE: In the early 1970’s United States aircraft, flown by smugglers, were known to make nighttime landings on the islands north coast highway to pick up loads of marijuana. The temporary landing strips was set up by blocking the highway to all vehicular traffic and by using highway emergency flares to outline the “runway.”
These pictures show what can happen when you cheat Jamaican drug dealers.
This U.S. smuggler had flown a prior load of marijuana out of Jamaica, but he made the mistake of paying for it with counterfeit U.S. currency. He later made arrangements for a second load of “ganja” and flew to the island to pick up his load. In reprisal for being cheated on the first load, the dealers set out the “runway” flares in a crocodile infested swamp lying parallel to the highway. The results of the trip were not what the pilot had envisioned.
Operations
The distribution of drugs is directed by high-ranking members. Drugs and weapons are stored in stash houses, also known as control points, which supply street-level distribution centers known as “crack houses” or “gate houses.” The loss of any portion of the operation will not completely shut it down. Street-level distribution points are expendable and the loss of a stash house is not disastrous
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Gate houses are often equipped with surveillance cameras and security devices. Weapons may be hidden in floors or wall panels and armed guards or “managers” keep law enforcement or other intruders from entering.
Jamaican traffickers enlist the services of youths and females as lookouts, drivers and couriers. The theory involved in using juveniles (also a theory supported by many other gangs of U.S. origin) is that, if caught, the punishment will be less severe than for an adult. Women are often used to purchase residences, automobiles and weapons.
Jamaican Posses Operating in the United States
The following is a partial list of identified Jamaican Posses operating in the United States. This list is only to show how wide-spread the posses are in cities throughout the U.S.
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BANTON POSSE – Baltimore, Miami, Washington, D.C.
BROWN POSSE – Houston
BUSHMOUTH POSSE – Miami, New York, St. Louis
CUBAN POSSE – Kansas City, Miami, New York, Philadelphia
JUNGLE POSSE – Boston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Miami, New York
MONTEGO BAY POSSE – Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Houston, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Seattle, Washington, D.C.
SHOWER POSSE – Atlanta, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Detroit, Hartford, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Seattle, Toronto, Québec, Washington, D.C.
SPANGLER POSSE – Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburg, Seattle, Washington, D.C.
NOTE: Due to law enforcement efforts, these locations may have changed in recent years. In addition to the posses named above, there are approximately 32 additional posses that have been identified.
SOURCES: USDOJ, FBI, ATF
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bajan u wasting time, Jamaicans do not go on facts or evidence (as you can see from there blogging, they go on a feeling). posting all that data on here is a waste of time. do jamaicans expect a border control official to say “well yuh know i like a good jerk chicken, ackee and saltfish and they were the first caribbean country to qualify for the world cup so let me let them in” it is the negative aspect of any country that assists in the assesments of its ppl. if barbados is known for astronomical crime rate or drug mules then by all means when we travel search us based on it. i travel the entire caribbean and also to the US with the work i do and i dont get major issues with customs when i show them my passport. why? because bajans are not arrested and found guilty of major illegal crimes and trafficking at these airports. it is unfortunate tho that jamaica has that rep, they are SOME POSITIVES there. but what is killing me is that jamaicans come on this blog and spew thier bullshit and attack us and raise negative things that they believe are true about barbados and dont expect us to retaliate.r
then they cut and paste the negative things we say about jamaica and jamaicans and drop it in another jamaican blog to solidify the argument that bajans just dont like jamaicans and to boycott our goods .
and these troublemakers are in the media so they easily propagate the hate.
it is obvious that some ppl in your country wants strained relations between these 2 nations. i dont see the benefit of it. but maybe you cud tell me what is jamaica to benefit by it.
@Guest, bajan and Oh come on; Jesus once healed a blind man and then asked the man what he saw. The man said, I see people walking as trees. Jesus had to give the man a second touch to fully restore his vision.
By the time human beings get to their 20s, they develop what is known as diametrical thinking. I has concluded that your mental states are somewhere between the ages of 12-15. You can read and see things, but lack the ability to interpret what you see. With the arrogance of a mature person and a mind of a 12 year old, there is nothing any rational person can do, in a short time, to reverse years of deeply ingrained pseudo-thoughts.
For you to post old data on Jamaica from as far back as 10 years ago, shows that you are a either a bunch of high school kids or just a bunch of dishonest, narrow-minded people.
If you so desire you can get the latest 2010 update on Jamaica’s economy from this website.
http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/jamaica/jamaica_economy.html
GDP – per capita:
$8,400 (2010 est.)
country comparison to the world: 122
$8,500 (2009 est.)
$8,800 (2008 est.)
note: data are in 2010 US dollars
[see also: GDP – per capita country ranks ]
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bajan
Jamaica, a small island nation (4,411 square miles) in the Caribbean, with a population of 2.6 million has had a stable democracy since it attained independence from Britain in 1962. The World Bank classifies the country’s economy as Lower Middle Income; the gross national income is US $2,820 (PIOJ, 2005a). Children under age 15 years constitute 31% of the population; individuals under 25 years represent 50%; the working age (15-64 years) population represents 65%; and people over 65 years comprise 7% (World Factbook, 2006; Williams, 2001). In keeping with the promotion of the country as an exotic and hedonistic destination, tourism is the leading industry (Dunn, 2001). However, the island scores low on many of the social indicators of child well-being. There is widespread poverty and a widening social gap between the rich and poor as evidenced by concentrations of extreme wealth, a shrinking middle class, and a stagnant economy (Brown, 2001; World Factbook, 2006). The country is plagued by double-digit inflation, a large debt (135% of the Gross National Product), a huge and constantly increasing exchange rate, mounting civil unrest, a vigorous illegal drug trade, and gang violence (Harriot, 2002; World Factbook, 2006). The adolescent fertility rate is high (112 per 1000 births) with 85% of Jamaican babies born to unmarried mothers and 50% without a registered father (World Bank 2002). In 2002, an estimated 19.7% of the population lived below the poverty line (PIOJ, 2005a).
The State of the Poor in Jamaica
@Guest, bajan and Oh come on; Jesus once healed a blind man and then asked the man what he saw. The man said, I see people walking as trees. Jesus had to give the man a second touch to fully restore his vision.
By the time human beings get to their 20s, they develop what is known as diametrical thinking. I have concluded that your mental states are somewhere between the ages of 12-15. You can read and see things, but lack the ability to interpret what you see. With the arrogance of a mature person and a mind of a 12 year old, there is nothing any rational person can do, in a short time, to reverse years of deeply ingrained pseudo-thoughts.
For you to post old data on Jamaica from as far back as 10 years ago, shows that you are a either a bunch of high school kids or just a bunch of dishonest, narrow-minded people.
If you so desire you can get the latest 2010 update on Jamaica’s economy from this website.
http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/jamaica/jamaica_economy.html
GDP – per capita:
$8,400 (2010 est.)
country comparison to the world: 122
$8,500 (2009 est.)
$8,800 (2008 est.)
note: data are in 2010 US dollars
[see also: GDP – per capita country ranks ]
Jamaica voted Best Caribbean Destination in 2010
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2010/12/18/38018/Jamaica-voted-Best-Caribbean-Destination-in-2010
New York.– Jamaica has again reaffirmed its position as a top travel destination, having been voted the “Best Caribbean Destination” by readers of the leading U.S. travel industry magazine Travel Weekly in its eighth annual Readers Choice Awards.
Jamaica edged its regional counterparts Aruba, Barbados, Dominican Republic, St. Lucia as well as the U.S. Virgin Islands to win the award for the second consecutive year.
“Jamaica is delighted to once again receive this top honor by readers of Travel Weekly. This award is testimony to our ongoing efforts to enhance the quality of Jamaica’s tourism industry, with continuous product development and expansion of our attraction offerings,” remarked Jamaica’s Director of Tourism John Lynch.
“We look forward to continuing to boost our appeal to travelers by offering the region’s best and most comprehensive tourism product.” The award was announced on Thursday, December 16 at a gala dinner at New York City’s Plaza Hotel.
Inspite of all our social ills.
Jamaica named World’s Leading Cruise Destination
Nov 15, 2009
For the fourth consecutive year, Jamaica has been named the World’s Leading Cruise Destination in the World Travel Awards. Jamaica also copped its fifth win as the Caribbean’s Leading Cruise Destination and Ocho Rios was named the Caribbean’s Leading Cruise Port. The awards, described by the Wall Street Journal as the ‘Oscars’ of the global travel and tourism industry, are decided by votes cast by travel professionals from 183,000 companies and tourism organisations in over 160 countries.
Source:
http://www.eturbonews.com/12777/jamaica-named-worlds-leading-cruise-destination
CARIBBEAN TOP CONTAINER PORTS BY THROUGHPUT – 2006
PORT 2006 2005 TEUs C/ W/ TEUs C/ W
RANK RANK RANK /RANK
Kgn Container Terminal (Ja.) 2,150,048 1 43 1,671,820 (1) 56
Free Port, (Bahamas) 1,463,000 2 63 1,211,500 (2) 72
Port of Spain (Trinidad) 324,539 3 165 322,466 (3) 173
Havana (Cuba) 317,105 4 178 259,328 (5) 193
Ro Haina (Dom Rep) 269,747 5 179 268,738 (4) 194
Caucedo (Dom Rep) 231,328 6 190 220,683 (6) 212
Kingston Wharves Ltd. (Ja.) 167,336 7 226 135,804 (10) 278
Pointe-a-Pitre (Guadeloupe) 154,432 8 236 154,263 (7) 266
Point Lisas (Trinidad) 147,136 9 242 145,246 (9) 273
Fort-de-France (Martinique) 142,110 10 248 149,901 (8) 207
Port-au-Prince (Haiti) 94,973 11 216 66,039 (13) 220
Barbados Port Inc. 92,507 12 266 88,759 (12) 307
Willemstad (Curaçao) 90,759 13 267 89,229 (11) 305
Oranjestad (Aruba) 57,054 14 297 53,500 (15) 319
George Town (Cayman) 49,056 15 300 62,900 (14) 299
St. John’s (Antigua & Barbuda) 43,859 16 285 14,550 (20) 342
Nassau (Bahamas) 37,232 17 328 36,882 (16) 401
Castries (St. Lucia) 32,112 18 332 29,667 (18) 411
Santo Domingo (Dom Rep) 28,713 19 341 11,244 (22) 464
Boca Chica (Dom Rep) 24,611 20 345 26,906 (19) 420
Roseau (Dominica) 11,097 21 377 12,826 (21) 459
Cap Haitien (Haiti) 1,639 23 487 1,685 (23) 488
C / RANK = Caribbean Rank
W / RANK = World Rank
you shouldnt be trying to convince us, let your citizens try and convince the rest of the world through your behaviour and actions when they travel . LOL
Africanus is really grabbing at straws with personal attacks and the data he tells you to look at is the oldest, all it says was the page was updated in 2011 NOT THE INFORMATION, this is why this stupidity will never end from jamaicans its very clear and besides that your very boring! but let me leave you with a very important piece about distraught, hopeless and mental implosion being felt by the future of jamaica.
Spike in child suicides
Psychiatrists say more children wanting to die
BY KIMONE THOMPSON Features Editor — Sunday thompsonk@jamaicaobserver.com
Sunday, April 03, 2011
FIFTEEN-year-old Tia Murray of Barracks Road, Savanna-la-Mar in Westmoreland, was found hanging from a mango tree in the community last week, the victim of her own hand.
She is one of two cases of suspected child suicides so far this year.
MURRAY… the 15-year-old girl who allegedly hanged herself last week
HAYNES… it doesn’t necessarily mean there is an increase in the number of children having depressive or mood disorders but more of an awareness among parents and teachers
BAILEY-DAVIDSON… I haven’t had so many before… I don’t know what is triggering this
MURRAY… the 15-year-old girl who allegedly hanged herself last week 1/3
Her family has said they saw no signs that something was wrong with the girl, but mental health experts point out that suicides are usually triggered by a particular stress event in which a person feels there is no way out, rather than by a long-term feeling of depression.
President of the Jamaica Psychiatric Association Dr Yvonnie Bailey-Davidson told the Sunday Observer that since the start of the year, the number of suicidal thoughts and attempts she has seen in children, both in her private practice and on consultancy visits to public hospitals, has increased astronomically and that the ages of those involved seem to be getting younger.
The spike, which she said she noticed for the first time in her 16 years of practice, represents a 50 per cent jump in the numbers she usually sees.
Suicide is a manifestation of a range of psychiatric disorders and those who attempt it, she said, are usually depressed, are “acting out”, or are psychotic.
“I’ve been seeing more suicidal ideation, more self-mutilation, and some of them are actually trying to kill themselves with overdose and hanging,” Bailey-Davidson said.
“I haven’t had so many before… I don’t know what is triggering this,” she confessed.
Clinical psychologist Dr Tammy Haynes has witnessed a similar increase in her practice.
“Over the last two years I have seen about a 50 -70 per cent increase in the number of children who are referred, but I’ve also seen an increase in the number of children under 12 during the last year,” she told the Sunday Observer.
“(Those under 12) haven’t got as far as thinking of killing themselves; sometimes they wish they just didn’t wake up in the morning. It usually has to do with problems they are experiencing at school. Some children may be victims of bullying, or they are having social skills problems or they are not doing well in school,” said Haynes, who specialises in neuropsychology.
But, as she reasons it, the figures may not represent a true increase in the number of children presenting with depressive disorders.
“(It is worrying) in a way because it’s unusual to see more and more children like this. However, in another sense, it is good that their parents are recognising that something is wrong and are taking them to see a psychologist or psychiatrist. Before, parents wouldn’t know exactly what was going on. If the child was suffering from depression or some sort of anxiety disorder they wouldn’t know what it is and the child would get into more trouble, be punished or just be ignored.
“But when you see more children coming in, it doesn’t necessarily mean there is an increase in the number of children having depressive or mood disorders, but more of an awareness among parents and teachers that something is wrong and knowing who to refer the child to, which is what I think is happening, moreso than just an increase in the numbers,” Haynes said.
In the 10-and-a-half years up to June last year, 33 Jamaican children and adolescents took their own lives, an average of three per year.
That’s the equivalent of three football teams or an entire classroom.
Of the 33, 26 were as a result of hanging, four were from ingesting poisons, and one each was caused by shooting, drowning and jumping.
The figures, which were provided by the statistics department of the Jamaica Constabulary Force, also show that 2001 had the highest number of reported child suicides for the period — 10.
The second highest number was five, the total for 2008. The years 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007 each accounted for three, while 2005 had two, and there was one each for 2000, 2004, 2009 and the first six months of 2010.
Data for the period July 2010 to March 2011 were not readily available last week, but according to reports carried in the media, in addition to Tia Murray’s suspected suicide, there has been at least one other case involving a child and one of attempted suicide by an adult in just the first three months of 2011.
In March, 35-year-old Constable Neil Buchanan was found on the floor of the Bluefields Police Station in Westmoreland with a gunshot wound to his head. His service pistol was found next to him.
In January, a man tried to kill the mother of his child and himself, but failed at both attempts. He reportedly shot at the woman, but missed, then shot himself. His wound wasn’t fatal and he was later hospitalised under police guard.
For the same 10-and-a-half year period, from 2000 to June 2010, the total suicide figure, including both children and adults, was 555. But it’s the trend among persons under age 18 that is more worrying, according to Bailey-Davidson, who ventured plausible reasons for the increase.
“Adolescents are more stressed; they are more exposed to sex matters, drug abuse, experimentation; they are bored. When you investigate, these are just minimal complaints, so you wonder (about) their coping strategies and the issue of self-control with their aggression.
“And the sad thing is we don’t have an adolescent unit to admit these adolescents and do therapy with them when we have these situations. We are badly in need of an adolescent in-patient unit,” the psychiatrist said.
The Ministry of Health operates 20 child guidance clinics across the island that treat children and adolescents. Where the cases are outside the scope of practice of the clinics, the young patients are referred to public hospitals or to private specialists. Children under 12 can be admitted to paediatric wards in general hospitals or to Bustamante Hospital for Children while adolescents get referred to the psychiatric ward (Ward 21) at the University Hospital of the West Indies.
“Ward 21 admits adolescents because there is nowhere else for them, but we need a place for adolescents alone, both in-patient and residential facilities,” stressed Bailey-Davidson.
“Many more people are not admitted because there are no beds for them. Ward 21 is a 20-bed unit and they don’t admit them (adolescents) to Bellevue. That’s why we need an adolescent unit; it’s knocking on our doors,” she said.
Bailey-Davidson, who specialises in paediatric as well as adult psychiatry, said she has also found that the tendency towards suicide is fuelled by a struggle to answer questions about the purpose of one’s existence.
“Research is showing that religious belief, having a faith where they worship and get along with other people and where there is support, both practical as well as emotional, and spiritual guidance, do well for adolescents to reduce the inkling of suicidal ideation and suicidal attempts. People need connection, they need guidance and a sense of well-being with respect to their existence on this earth,” she said.
On the subject of pre-teens and suicidal thoughts, Bailey-Davidson said children under 12 didn’t grasp the concepts of death and dying and suggested that in expressing thoughts to kill themselves, they are merely repeating what they have heard older folk say.
In 2008 there were three pre-teens who committed suicide.
In one case, a 12-year-old girl reportedly hanged herself in her bedroom after a fight with a sibling. In another incident, which occurred Sunday, February 10, the body of 11-year-old Natalia Morgan was found hanging by a piece of cloth from a breadfruit tree at her home in McQuarrie district, Hanover. Then, in July that same year, 12-year-old Romario Royes hanged himself when two of his pigeons escaped and he was unable to recapture them. In a cruel twist of fate, the birbs returned two days after the boy’s death.
In a previous interview with the Sunday Observer, the health ministry said it was seeking to increase access to the child guidance facilities and was undertaking an “ongoing programme of training teachers and guidance counsellors to equip them with the necessary skills to identify children and adolescents with, or who are at risk for developing, mental health problems”.
It said it had employed a consultant child and adolescent psychiatrist at the child guidance clinic which serves Kingston and St Andrew.
COMMENTS
4/3/2011
In the age of internet, cable and satellite Jamaica must brace for a lot of things that it is not accustomed to. There will be a lot more diseases, and other problems. Jamaicans used to be able to deal with issues but now we are seeing how other people deal with issues by just killing themselves. We change the food we use to eat so there are more obesities and diabetes etc. We don’t walk or go outside and talk to neighbors anymore we just sit and watch TV all day. Jamaica we have not seen anything yet!
Ainsworth Cole
4/3/2011
We need child pscycologist and counselors on the groung where they can have more contact time with these young people, the whole country is groning as more people becaome stressful. The stress levels in society are high and the activities and professional help to relieve the pressure is not there. Simple stress relieving activities and pastimes has common in develop countries and decent societies like going to the cinema for movies,parks etc is not there because they are, as I said just not ther
Brooklyn Jamaican
4/3/2011
Mr Editor, these are serious matters. Its one thing to print, but I think the comments section should be closed. Some people are heartless as can be seen by some of the comments about the NYPD death in yesterdays edition. Please do not allow reckless persons to sully the death of this young lady.
Paul Gentles
4/3/2011
This is a societal problem.
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I wish the good,and the young who are corupted in jamaica all the best
This is bare nonsense. Check if the woman was fingered or not and done, but dont make it a Jamaican vs Bajan thing.
You know thay got some Jamaican druggies and whores and Bajan druggies and whores.
Alla them tourist and cruise stats that wunna quote above are irrelevant. None of this people go in Kingston, all stay at Negril and Ocho Rios.
People dont want to see the whole Jamaica. When they come to Barbados they go all over, including enjoying eating with the locals in Oistins.
Different culture and we dont want it change.
Effin yuh dont like how we guard our borders, stay the hell away.
Go to US instead and enjoy how they check against smugglers.
According to this report[3] there are 13854 Caribbean nationals studying in U.S. universities. Of this amount of students, Jamaica has 4110 and Barbados has 440. ……………………………………………………………………………………
Signs that Jamaica is rapidly moving in the right direct is the amount of learning institutions which was added in the last 10 years. Many are not listed here, but between having the most students from the Caribbean studying in the U.S. and these top 6 universities full of students, I can see a bright future for Jamaica.
According to a 2011 web rating of universities of any worth, Jamaica now has 6 universities
[1] University of the West Indies, Mona
[2]University of technology, Mona
[3]Northern Caribbean University, Mandeville
[4]University College of the Caribbean, Kingston and Mandeville
[5]University College of agriculture science and Education, Port Antonio
[6] Mico University College, Kingston
According to the same web ranking Barbados just have one university worth mentioning
[1] University of the West Indies, Cave Hill Campus
Source:
[1] http://www.4icu.org/jm/
[2] http://www.4icu.org/bb/
[3] http://www.nafsa.org/_/File/_/ac08sessions/GS310.pdf
@Oh come on; all I am doing is posting in response to your postings. I have proven time and ago that you are totally ignorant about the facts on Jamaica. But you are so simple minded that I have to come back and break down everything to u like a child.
If Jamaica is voted top or even close to it, then we have already convinced the world!!!
My God, where do you people come from? What I trying at length to show you is that even with our many problems, we are showing signs of improvement.
We Jamaicans are a resilient people.
@Rubbert, as I have said before, all of you display qualities seen only in right-wing conservatives thinking. As long as Bajans are posting a bunch of crap, it is fine for you, but when you are shown up to date information, it is foolishness.
I have already studied the history of cocaine and marijuana from Napoleon’s invasion of Egypt where he discovered marijuana which came from India. I know about cocaine as legal social drugs amongst the elites of European and the U.S. I know that it was first given to blacks to make them work longer and then it was made illegal when blacks start hitting on white women. For your information, more than US$70B worth of cocaine pass over the Mexican-U.S. border every year into the U.S. The Emerald triangle in northern California produces more marijuana than anywhere else in the world. The fact that Jamaicans are targeted may well mean that they are trying to tap into a market which is protected by Americans for their own people.
Why was the name Middle East called as such? Wasn’t it in an attempt to steal Egypt’s history from the indigenous black African people and give it to Europeans? Now, try and use your brains for one moment, where are Negril and Ocho Rios geographically located and who are the managers and workers in these Hotels?
Can you or any black Bajan travel to all areas in the U.S. which calls itself the bastion of democracy? When, as a black person, I went to Germany I was told where to go, so if people come to a cosmopolitan area then it makes sense that they are warned not to go to certain places. It has nothing to do with the uniqueness of Jamaicans.
Don’t you see guys something has gone very wrong with your very narrow way of thinking?
convincing me on a blog by stating that tourists like to come to the area of jamaica that facilitates them isnt gonna make most of your ppl represent your country in a positive way overseas. its gonna make ppl come to and stay within your minute safe zone and then go home. why not invite them to roam your beautiful country and interact with all of these nice ppl in trench town, kingston and tivoli to name a few? are you familiar with the truman show?
no buddy u gotta get your attitudes and minds right. take care of your corruption, take back your garrisons.
a bajan telling you these things are taken as an insult but a jamaican telling you this would be preaching the truth.
when a jamaican can go to another country and not have to turn dem skin inside out to prove dem ain coming to do harm to another nation then you have convinced the world.
when a tourist can leave your tourist belt and venture away from the beaten path, then you have convinced the world.
and as a black bajan i have no limits to where i can go.
i been to the grittiest parts of N.Y and L.A
been down south too.
havent had an area of bim called a war zone as yet.
but keep making excuses for your actions and keep trying to insult or belittle us. deep down inside you know where your problem lies.
Doesn’t africanus talk bull, always lecturing like he/she knows everything, the information you provided was old and digging into ancient history has no bearing on your present!. Furthermore are you admitting that jamaicans are tapping into the drugs trade? because its very apparent and its also apparent what goes along with drugs are guns, slavery and all manner of nastiness. By you saying you were told where to go in germany, it means they are wary of jamaicans too. You can stop calling us right wing because we know what your doing and challenging all idiots. Everyone on this website and other websites are not going to let jamaican garbage go anywhere or say anything unchallenged, i hope you get the idea now.
I don’t care if you quote the bible it still isn’t going to help you and your propogandist ideas to breakdown barbados or her people anywhere.
Good people always suffer for the idiots in their midst(wolf in sheeps clothing) and you also know that people are posting up everything you lot do over the web, there is a back lash coming and you lot are sure going to get it. DON’T BRING SHIT TO US we won’t tolerate it, and i hope the bardados government chucks your asses out JUST for talking shit too.
Why even talk about what the europeans are doing, what about the Asian continent, they have more of a handle on drugs than jamaicans ever could and they’re everywhere!
There is a global econonmic recession and selling drugs has done nobodies economy any good whatsoever- so what is the point your trying to make?
Everytime someone hits you with facts and a strong point you vere off in another direction and its all crap, just deal with your own issues first before you meddle with anyone elses.
What you and your cronies are doing is just like slavery because 1. we know that your people and island are poor. 2. there is jewish and irish barons in the drugs trade that fuelling wars every where. 3. Jews own and monitor the internet and decide what crap goes and they’re very good at propoganda and hyping wars! 4. WARS only benefit those who can afford to wage them in the first place. 5.drugs and guns only bring death and destruction just like in jamaica -fact. 6. if a nation can’t hold its people together then its finished and people are beginning to wonder about yours!
Unfortunately the facts speak for themselves.
Jamaica’s election
The old guard outgunned
Ageing politicians lack solutions to Jamaica’s many problems
Oct 17th 2002 | kingston | from the print edition
http://www.economist.com/node/1392733?story_id=E1_TPJNSPP
IN AUGUST, Jamaica celebrated the 40th anniversary of its independence from Britain. To mark the event, a local newspaper conducted a now infamous poll. To the surprise and horror of many Jamaican politicians, 53% of respondents replied that the country would have been better off had it remained a British colony, while only 15% thought it would have been worse off. So it was perhaps to be expected that the island’s general election, held on October 16th, was greeted with some apathy. And the fact that it did not produce greater change says much about the stasis of the island’s politics.
@JP :I think
the same would go if the poll was done in Barbados
rasta man
April 3, 2011 at 10:50 pm
@JP :I think
the same would go if the poll was done in Barbados
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Thats untrue rasta man Barbados improved massively with independence Jamaica regressed thats why poll results would differ. Since you are a rasta you should distribute to Bajan rastas and the block boys who worship Jamaicans the cartoon the Observer newspaper out of Jamaica published about Bajans. It depicted Bajan men as homosexuals and that my friend is how every single Bajan man is percieved by Jamaicans so the misguided block boys who use and sell drugs trying to be Movado and BUju and terrorise poor neighbourhoods with their imitation Jamaican curse words and threats of violence must understand Jamaicans include them in their view of all Bajan men as all homos (bullers).!. The ZR wild men,the DJ’s, should see the cartoon as well because they kow tow to everything from the Jamaican dub artistes and play Jamaica crap and violence music non stop.The fellows in the housing areas and tough communities in Barbados are homosexuals to the average Jamaican.The wayard youth of Barbados should wake up and look for better alternative role models to Jamaicans who whether man or woman rich or poor beleive and are not afraid to say every Bajan man is gay (battybwoy}. Rastas and boys on the block take a look at the stinking cartoon from the Observer reproduced by Nation newspaper thats exactly how Jamaicans see you.
if anyone of you in cyberspace were defiled or assaulted in such a way would you report it to the police or to the newspaper first? just curious to the answers.
Felolow bajans, listen and wait for the results because we know we have been inviting and hospitable to our island guests for YEARS and we don’t need advice from failures. Africanus wants to tell us they have five or six universities and we have one- isit? well that one produce 100% literacy rate.
Jamaicans forget its not about quantity but quality and we know the music isn’t making it, everyone has wised up to nasty lyrics and behaviour and don’t want it at all. Its the information age indeed!
It will be pure detective work done over the web by anyone who starts anything now, anyone who knows anything will come forward and represent their own.
These gangs with the help of jews are tapping peoples phones and getting in your business and filming people and passing that information to their other idiots whereever you are, they usually have two to three phones on them. The next thing is they have skeleton keys that can open any lock and break in your homes. there is no sign of a break in but things are missing.
When they breakin they usually want your credit card details or any financial information to get into bank accounts or to steal your identity through your official documents like ,birth certificates, passport no etc – any thing official to prove who you are in other words. These details help them travel around , rob your bank accounts for money and fuels more crime every where.
This is the type of crime thats gone from Britian to Canada, LOOK UP JAMAICAN SCAMS -all the things JEWS taught them to do and we know that the jews, just like in 1929 with the stock market crash that they caused, have again caused this global economic crash, and everyone needs to go and read about JEWS too.
Courageous woman
Editor,
………
This incident is most unfortunate and I have no doubt that Shanique Myrie’s story is true, especially since a friend of mine from Grenada had a similar experience some years ago while visiting her mom who was living in Barbados at the time. My friend was too embarrassed to go public.
Read more at:
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/letters/Courageous-woman_8614884
@Oh come on, we gain knowledge thru’ experiences. I have travelled to more than 30 different countries around the world, including Barbados on more than one occasion, not for work or business, and I know a thing or two about our world.
Oh Come on, you never know how ignorant a person you are, until you open up your mind to new ideas. I am not asking you to believe anything I am saying, all I was trying to do, was to give you the facts and hope that you will see how narrow-minded you are.
There are currently some 2000 hate groups in America and given the history of hate in that country, I am not sure if you step out of line, they care whether you are an African America, a Jamaican, Obama or a Bajan. You have no concept of reality, because you live in your own little bubble.
@bajan, then all you have to do is compare the information and see if for instance the GDP is the same.
You are the first set of black people that I have ever seen who feel good, because another black nation or group of people is struggling. The reason being that you were forced or mentally conditioned by your European masters who still control most of the wealth in Barbados to the hateful mental state you now find yourselves. This kind of hate permeating through your society left no doubt in my mind that that Shanique Myrie is telling the truth.
Look guys, we must get to the bottom of this or else case, based on your arrogance, things won’t be good between Barbados and Jamaica if this woman don’t get justice.
1. bajan
April 3, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Africanus is really grabbing at straws with personal attacks and the data he tells you to look at is the oldest, all it says was the page was updated in 2011 NOT THE INFORMATION, this is why this stupidity will never end from jamaicans its very clear and besides that your very boring! but let me leave you with a very important piece about distraught, hopeless and mental implosion being felt by the future of jamaica.
@Africanus
I realise that you only respond to inflammatory comments which lead me to believe that no matter what is said here you have your agenda.
We thank you for the information rendered.
Now we give you the task of educating your Jamaican brethern.
Goodbye and good luck!
@watching closely: By the way I am not a rasta.
@guest, why is it you are so angry? Don’t you know that when it comes to badness, you are nothing but a silly dog barking from behind a closed gate? It is in your own best interest to make sure that justice is served.
You are a bunch of racists who were conditioned to think like your slave masters.
You reason like a mad man.
@Thank you, I respond to your comments which so happens to be all inflammatory.
I have no agenda other than to try to put knowledge into very dark places called Barbadian brains.
You are all mentally conditioned to adapt the hateful mentality of those who have coerced you into a place of servitude.
@guest wrote, “Africanus wants to tell us they have five or six universities and we have one- isit? well that one produce 100% literacy rate.”
Are you and the other bajans contributing to this forum considered literate?
@ guest wrote, “This is the type of crime thats gone from Britian to Canada, LOOK UP JAMAICAN SCAMS -all the things JEWS taught them to do and we know that the jews, just like in 1929 with the stock market crash that they caused, have again caused this global economic crash, and everyone needs to go and read about JEWS too.”
You are racists and your constant attacks on Jews just confirm this.
If you know anything about the U.S. politics or socio-economic conditions during and after the industrial revolution you would know that the people who control government were the Irish and WASP.
As a result of the depression Jews with their higher education were admitted into the municipal government jobs, which had serves as the start for upward mobility for many different peoples.
Look guys, you have no sense or knowledge of any thing. You have a general idea about many things, but very rude and careless with the facts.
God. Where do they get ignorant folks like these?
@guest: so…Bajans are ANTISEMITIC too….hmmm….a hate crime against a Jamaican woman and now antisemitic statements….hm….perhaps a swastika would be more appropriate then the trident?
the difference is that while bajans are trying to be objective on what happen since no proof has been brought forth, jamaicans make up there mind that it did happen. you are accusing a customs officer of a sexual assault, or is it police now? the ignorance of some jamaicans are baffling.
@Africanus
I don’t think anybody here has said anything about ‘feeling happy/glad’ that Jamaica has some social-ills. Heck, Barbados has some social-ills too which we all want to get to the bottom of. I think what most Bajans here including myself take issue with is, this a seemingly huge wave of Jamaicans that came on here and the first thing that do is bash Barbados from top to bottom.
The results of the investigation aren’t even out, and a large segment of people that claim to be form Jamaica come on here and start trashing everything about Barbados. In return, what you saw was a backlash of ‘who are these Jamaicans to come telling us how to be/act/say and do when Jamaica has its own social-ills too? And as some might say more- than what Barbados has at this particular time. That is what you are getting. I doubt anybody here takes solace in the fact that Jamaica has any problems. And actually many of the comments here that I see have been along the lines of ‘ok, do you recognise that Jamaica has problems to? Well if you do or don’t we hope that allyuh will get down to business and fix them.’
Here’s our problem….
British actress attacked by serial rapist in Barbados says island’s police were ‘only concerned with tourist image’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372881/Hilary-Heath-attacked-serial-rapist-Barbados-says-police-concerned-image.html#ixzz1IZ5HkPTA
Instead of addressing Ms. Myrie’s charges the Government of Barbados (politicians!) has sought to spin the story and rally public support as a distraction in attempt to cover up….that strategy is doing more harm than good…the above story is just the beginning…the longer this debate continues the more stories are going to surface heaping more embarrassment on Barbados and the entire region. Don’t focus on Ms. Myrie and “wuk” around the flag – demand that your Government do a transparent investigation…n.b. Playa Del Carmen is much cheaper than the West Indies!
This shows how far back the problem has been brewing, let alone when Jimmy Cliff made ‘the harder they come’ in 1974 highlighting all your issues.
Jamaica is in Deep Trouble
By George Wiggins
Published Jun 1, 2005
The 5th Columnist such as Seaga, Golding, Paterson, Davies, Knight, et al. are all too abundant amongst us, some being more prominent than others.
I noted the economic plans as set out by the great and good of this 5th Columnists brigade.
The amazing thing is that we are so desperate for a solution to our chronic socio–economic malaise that we jump at any and every proposed solution, without carefully analysing the implications of these postulations.
Because it is eloquently expressed does not mean it is of substance and has relevance. In other words because it sound good does not mean it is good. That is how the politicians have been conning us since independence.
Wake up Jamaicans, these blue prints for economic recovery will make us totally subservient to others.
If Jamaica becomes dependent on primarily tourism and exotic crops like Ackee, and imports all basic commodities, what happens when there is civil unrest and the tourist stay away or there is a hurricane that destroys the Ackee crop? Either of these likely events in isolation or in tandem would keep the tourist away and Jamaicans would starve or be dependent on the charity of other countries. Is Jamaica to become a floating hotel in the middle of the Caribbean where citizens only exist to serve tourist with such amenities as rent-a-dread, go-go dancers and other hedonistic practices?
What is the cause of tourist harassment? How will tourist harassment cease if the benefits of tourism only go to the few and not the many? Example: all exclusive resorts.
Jamaica should aim to improve the efficiency of agriculture and other productive sectors along with improvements in the quality of the products, thus encouraging more domestic consumption. This would be the best advertisement for Jamaican produce. If Jamaicans are not willing to consume Jamaican produce, why should others take the risk?
There is no rule of law in Jamaica: hence the holder of the post subverts the duties of the post to their personal whim, instead of the reverse. This has not encouraged stability since a change of personnel means a change of policies, priorities, procedures and practices. The result is lack of standards, lack of consistency and lack of continuity. This is very much in evidence in the civil service, security forces, local government and the commercial sector, resulting in rampant nepotism and corruption that has lead to, economic stagnation and the disintegration of the society.
No prudent financial investor is going to invest in Jamaica’s unstable socio-economic/political environment, when the returns on investments cannot be quantified in a deterministic manner, mainly due to the lack of financial probity. The current state of divestments is proof.
Jamaica should aim to consume as much of what it produces and import the rest of our requirements. Jamaicans should aim to produce a country, which is not dependent on tourism but would be a good vacation destination because of good governance and social justice.
However, the motive for writing this letter is not to berate or slander any of the participants in this debate, who think they possess the solution: more to ask Jamaican citizens to be more objective when reading all suggestions. There is always some egotistical person who will relish the opportunity to make profit from the suffering of Jamaican people. The current political oligarchy demonstrates this everyday. Even the so-called ghetto commentators (DJs) are making a good living.
The main reason why Jamaica is in a socio–economic mess is due to the legacy that the impact of slavery has had on the psychology of our people.
We Jamaicans have to face the fact that we suffer from an inferiority complex. This inferiority complex manifests itself in our over appreciation of foreign cultures (i.e. other peoples values and morals). Nothing is wrong with Jamaicans appreciating the values and morals from other cultures, but we must ensure that they have a positive impact on Jamaica before adopting them. The latter currently does not occur.
Currently Jamaica is in essence, a giant slave plantation, the economic/political oligarchs (Masters), the local dons / political enforcers (Overseers) and the ordinary citizen with no say (Slaves). Example: Masters reside in Plantation Heights and the Slaves reside in Cassava Piece.
This has created a two-tiered society in Jamaica. The uneducated aspire to be dons, (Overseer oligarchs) and the educated aspire to become members of the economic/political oligarchs (Masters oligarchs). This has the effect of perpetuating the current cycle of economic, political and moral decline.
Then there are the corrupt churches, which claim to occupy the moral high ground. Instead of articulating the case of the oppressed which Christian doctrine espouses, the churches postulates a false doctrine of compliance in the hope that Jesus will come tomorrow and clear up this mess. The churches themselves have become no more than businesses, which thrive from the offerings of the collection plate, hence their ubiquity in Jamaica.
It would appear that the bishops and deacons have forgotten that Christ gave instructions to prepare the church like a bride on her wedding day, for his return. This implies that Jamaicans need to take corrective actions to sort the mess out before Christ returns.
Journalist exists to perform the duty of informing the nation on what is happening and are expected to perform the role objectively. In Jamaica – like most other countries – this does not happen. There are those who postulate that they are the guardians of the citizen’s rights to free expression and the nation’s protectors against abusive government.
Well they too have failed the nation. The reporting is infrequently objective and more often blatantly bias towards the perpetrators of injustices against the ordinary citizens (slaves): in effect their reporting depicts the propaganda war between the different sects within the Master Oligarchy.
But if this chronic malaise is so far gone what has stopped rebellion? Well like most countries Jamaica has security forces that do the biddings of the Master oligarchs. They are given the task of maintaining the current socio-economic order (Plutocracy) by implementing policies that advocate extreme acts of barbarism and cruelty. Examples Breaton Massacre, Green Bay Killings, Beatings of Prison Inmates, Shoot first ask questions after (cause dead man tell no tales), etc, etc,
The members of the various governments (Master Oligarchy) along with the help of local dons (Overseer Oligarchy), rule Jamaica (Plantation) by fear and not by the consent of the people (Slaves). Progress in Jamaica is by patronage and very seldom by merit.
This socio-economic/political order has traumatised the nation (Plantation) and induced psychosis in the form of apathy, laziness, dependency and self-delusion. Jamaica has three institutions that offer therapy for this affliction namely, churches, rum bars and dancehalls, which respectively prescribe prayer, alcohol, music and marijuana as treatment.
Currently Jamaican people only work hard because they are forced to: hence the citizens (Slaves) work on behalf of the Master’s interest and to his agenda. Is it then surprising that the citizen never see the benefits of their labour?
Jamaicans are addicted to leaders (Masters) with great academic achievement. It is thought that this is the main prerequisite for leadership when in fact emphasis should be place on their altruistic nature. Looking at the qualifications of the most recent leaders and it is self-evident. Patterson is a Queens Counsel, yet he presides over an administration that demonstrates no understanding of the rule of Law. Seaga is reputed to be an economic wizard that has used these skills to defraud the nation’s finances.
Jamaica needs leaders with a reasonable level of academic training to enable them to be functional. However, the most important skills that none have demonstrated so far are team building, tolerance of different views, balancing the priorities of different sections of the population, financial probity, and above all putting the interest of Jamaica before self.
British imperialism with social accountability has been exchanged for economic imperialism by foreign powers without social accountability. Jamaica refers to this as INDEPENDENCE. Neither regime has worked on behalf of the Jamaican people.
Which developed nation is going to assist Jamaica when they benefit from the brain drain of our talented citizens, which they then use to power their economies?
Where there is no vision the people perish. Where there is injustice the people murmur. Where there is opportunity for the few and deprivation for the many, there is crime.
How can ordinary citizens in their fight for survival, be expected to respect the laws of the land, when these laws protect the entrenched interests of the perpetrators of injustices (the Master oligarchs)? Will the – past, present and future – ministers that preside over injustice and national insecurity answer this question?
CONCLUSION
This system cannot be reformed it has to be replaced because too few Jamaicans have a stake in the current corrupt order. WE HAVE UNFINISHED BUSINESS SINCE 1865. THE SPIRIT OF BOGLE AND GORDON MUST LIVE AGAIN. However, Jamaica’s problems cannot be solved quickly with bullets and machetes since that is currently part of the problem. It is time for the sword of reason to be exercised. It is time to equip the next generation of Jamaicans with a new sense of patriotism that puts the right of all Jamaicans above the rights of a few privileged individuals. A patriotism that extols the virtue, that the prosperity of each Jamaican is dependent on the good conduct of all Jamaicans. It will take a decade or two. SOLUTION
It is time for a new Order.
It is time for a new doctrine to be written.
It is time for a new economic system to be constructed base on social justice.
It is time for a new altruistic leadership to emerge.
It is time for it to start today.
@guest: What does that have to do with the alleged hate crime against Ms. Myrie by a single Barbadian border agent who was obviously ignorant as to the consequences of their action? that goes for @Africanus as well!…
ok, some of us don’t like them and some of them don’t like us…and the sun still rises in the morning…we all have our problems…fyi…to the people of Barbados…Jamaican’s do not envy or hate you, until now we were mostly indifferent, believe me…u guys know more about Jamaica than we do or even care about u (we are busy with our lives)… and same goes for Trinidad… until Kamla made her feisty remark the other day but we still love her…she was @#$& feisty tho…all that comes to mind is Carnival and Cropover (to a small minority of jamaicans who are into soca)…ask a Bajan who has visited our shores or lived in jamaica…aside from your funny accent…yeah it’s funny to us, like ours is funny to you…u are treated like one of us while we all struggle against the daily grind…your free education sends a lot of poor Bajans to school in Jamaica (yes, if they were rich they would go to the US, Canadian, UK etc. schools where rich Jamaicans go too) and they are acquainted with the hardships we face….when the money run out or get lost and Western Union is closed we share our grace bully beef and hardo bread and visa versa…let’s tone down the xenophobic rhetoric and demonstrations of ignorance masked as patriotism for some of these comments have now gone beyond the sublime…we both have asses in our govts who would love to use this to their advantage so that we focus less on the real issues…yours would like u to believe that jamaicans are responsible for all the ills in your country and things are so great otherwise…well guess what? look around you? are things really that great? when this thing with Ms. Myrie is over what next? our govt have their similar means of distraction? they are just as corrupt as yours!
@BFP: should be interesting to see an analysis of these comments…
how many jamaican vs bajans?
how many positive vs negative remarks? per country?
the level of hostility per county?
suggestions that ms. myrie may be a prostitute? per country?
how many believe ms. myrie? per country?
how may believe the govt.? per country?
do jamaicans really hate bajans?
do bajans really hate jamaicans?
@SUSS, what has any of this got to do with anything, allegations were made and in your beginning statement you are already assuming guilt is on the part of the airport officials. Ms Myrie went to the press with her allergation instead of the proper authorities thats whats wrong with the whole thing in the first place, there is a proper complaints procedure just like in britain or america, even for when you lose your luggage and you want to claim.
I think all the assuming should stop on both sides and wait for the full investigation!.
One jamaican newspaper was saying the ‘jamaica should declare war on barbados – why?
whoever’s idea this was made a huge mistake and there are some dark forces behind this that don’t involve ordinary jamaicans or barbadians.
There was entirely too much mud and shit slinging and questionnaires like yours really isn’t going to help at all, there’s alot of people reading this who don’t want to get involved because they are in loving relationships between jamaicans and barbadians. It will prove nothing.
The word hate shouldn’t even have entered the equation,because when i argue with my sister(for instance) or a cousin it doesn’t mean i hate them. We are black people who live in that region of the world that will end up being badly effected by any war, let alone a devastating hurricane or even (like japan, Haiti or Katrina) an earthquake and/or tsuanami, and in those times anybody would be glad for help from anybody! Those issues are still there not to mention what goes on in Africa, America or just about anywhere black people are I see, a perpetual cycle of death and destuction which isn’t necessarly of our making but it invariably always involves guns and drugs.
The things i put up were written by jamaicans for jamaicans to stop the cycle of self destuction on yourselves or others, the problems in jamaica will not be solved by creating more elsewhere and thats what everybody is trying to make you all see. Mud and shit slinging will always get out of order, and old facts do not solve the present problems BUT if jamaicans look back to see where it started going badly and why, they can avoid making those same errors again, its a lesson for all of us in a way because it can happen any where at any time. Japan was the 3rd largest economy in the world but now its people are fleeing from the radiation and those people have absolutely nothing left, mother nature took everything!
UP one day and DOWN the next but aleast they enjoyed years of growth and progress first, their grief will be for the loss of loved ones and property, not because they didn’t have a life in the first place!!!!!
if barbados is this terrible place to go, work and live why the hell do jamaicans leff where dem live and come here ? all the useless rhetoric that africanus et all are spewing about the moors and shit still doesnt explain this phenomenon.
the same little dot full of house niggers and batty boys as you call them still has this huge allure to your citizens. for god’s sake let jamaicans build jamaica up to how they want it to be whether positive or negative. there is no need for any bajans to try to explain to these ppl the importance of awaiting a full investigation. let them spew all the bullshit they want. a plane full of them will still land here tomorrow.
You Bajans or Barbadians , whichever one, are a set of stupid ass!
Take for example, this stupidiy- Rubbert wrote “People dont want to see the whole Jamaica. When they come to Barbados they go all over”.
@RUBBERT,
When tourists coame to Montego Bay where i live, they travel all over which is the same size as Barbados.
Understand this, because of our huge size compare to yours which is equivalent to just one of our 14 parishes, if a tourist in Montego Bay leaves for Kingston at 9am for lunch in 1 hour , he would return to Montego Bay at 6pm! It would be much longer if it is Portland , stupid.
And you Bajans all boasted how educated you are.
Indeed!, fools know how to create their own folly.
@ Bajan, yu full sh-t like crab with your gibberish (bout facts). Where is homosexual illegal in Jca?? So u are responsible for passing Jamaican laws now??? What a hell. It is ppl like you who help to spread propaganda to promote your hateful agenda.
Btw Kgn have some of the best night spots in the world if you know where to go. PPL like you are waste of platform. Anyway let us remember the real issue here, Myrie vs Gov’t. I hope the Canadians do justice and bring out the truth, whatever it is. That is the most important thing . I have no interest about what go on in Barbados as I have no plans to visit there. St. Lucia, Antigua, Cuba and Bahamas are more enticing for holiday. Although I don’t think all Barbadians are twisted and bigotted.
What does Buju Bantan have to do with this young lady, except similar names? I wouldn’t want you to be my lawyer if you love to resort to generalisation.
@ Rembrandt the same thing can be said about Barbadians. If Jamaica is such a dangerous country to live in, why do Barbadians live and study here? I have no problem with Barbadians travelling to my beautiful Jamaica, or even working here. The Europeans have overcome language barriers to allow integration and we don’t even have that. Oh well, I am not bigotted.
@al robinson
What has size got to do with Jamaican problems- except that they’re MONU-MENTAL. All throughout this sorry saga all we’ve been hearing about is the size of your island (its the third largest) and tourism , which isn’t impressing anybody. The tourism that you boast of hasn’t helped you lot at all as my previous article written by a jamaican tells you, all its brought you is gays(that your always lashing out about and peodophiles)
men, women and children are selling their bodies and drugs which in turn is fuelling arguments and gun crime. In the meantime all social, economical and political strategies have broken down BECAUSE very few of you care enough to fix things down there YOUR to busy running away from you problems and everywhere you go all you can read about is Jamaican crimes, it even has iits on place on the web- from Britian to Cananda!
There is nothing you can say that will even phase us, but your trying to start some kinda war, listen everybody is backing away from your sorry assses, we’re beginning to realise your not even sane to be talking so much garbage!
@rembhant – A plane full of them landed in England not so long ago and was turned right around, sad isn’t it
Don’t bring bullshit to our island (Ms myrie and buju share the same name then the killing of Denroy Davis ) its all too coincidental. I know who you all are and what your doing and its not going to work.
Fellow bajams, i recently read that certain criuse ships are being cut from destination barbados, then cliff richard after (how many years?) wants to leave our island. This is how the jews attacks people but they make sure they get their people out first. JEW AND IRISH GANGS (CIA AND IRA) ARE FINANCING THIS PETTY HATE FROM THE JAMAICANS, because we know the jamaicans are dirt poor right now. This is standard whereever the CIA AND IRA go – GUNS, DRUGS they have become well known for it. They are the evil gangs (mafia) of lower eastside new york and ghetto eastend of London who have come together to destroy black people, but stupid jamaicans can’t see that because they suck to much pussy and dick to even stand up and be counted, they prefer to join the garbage and have pickney with them for crumbs from massa table!
Nothing about bajans says we’re stupid but everything about jamaicans is currently pointing to just that, deal with your issues before you meddle in anyone elses.
Everybody body can even read that your argument are pathetic and worthless, we’re only wasting time because you all have nothing better to do, but i hear the english saying that barbados has an aging population, well they said the same thing about Russia and japan, But its britain that has the aging population and its frightened so they enlisted stupid jamaicans to defend them -ONCE AGAIN. KISS ASSES.
THATS EXACTLY WHATS HAPPENING!!
FELLOW BAJANS DON’T WASTE AMYMORE TIME ON FOOLS LET OUR AUTHORITIES DEAL WITH THIS, BUT BE READY IN ANY EVENT FOR TROUBLE BY JAMAICANS OR CIA /IRA GARBAGE MONGERS
Your Government has just re- commit to the free travel across Caribbean Borders. Therefore, you Bajans that hate us are going to be tired to see Jamaicans faces. You can all go and hang. After all, there will be enough Jamaicans there to take over.
Don’t worry, Jamaicans are civilize people so we will accept Bajans with open arms as we always do. Incidentally, i met a Bajan here in Montego Bay yesterday that work at one of our hotels, Sandals to be exact. Very pleasant young lady that love Jamaica and speak glowingly about the warmth of our people.
I am happy that you all admit that Jamaicans are not an easy lot, so whenever you see them walking in Bridgetown, those of you that have a grudge for us conceal your hate because if you try to be indifferent you might get a kick up your sorry ass. Yes, in your own country. Oh yes, there are sensible Bajans unlike some of these stupid ones on this blog.
From now on every Jamaican is going to be on the lookout for monsters like the one that shove up her finger up miss Myrie Vagina, perhaps, a sick lesbian who want to feel how tight it is. While i would never come to your Country when there are other places to go, if you don’t want my country folks to come to Barbados, tell your government to leave CARICOM.
Expect more Jamaicans and as my grand mother used to say, ‘who don’t like it bite it’.
Here is a special news for Bajans
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1372881/Hilary-Heath-attacked-serial-rapist-Barbados-says-police-concerned-image.html
Latest NEWS! Three Bajan cops rape Jamaican in cell.
Source: Today”s nation newspaper.
Surely, Barbados is sitting on a time bomb.
http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/cops-questioned-in-rape-case/
The nation newspaper is run by jews from britain who are fuelling this shit!
The time bomb has already gone off in jamaica, don’t worry we understand the feeling of hopelessness and despair for jamaicans, if anyone looks at any jamaican newspaper or caribeean newspaper i can guarantee there will be articles about jamaican rapes, murders, robberies and scams to add to all the other PAST attrocities. WELL DONE FOR YOUR GARBAGE TALK!
Here is another big one from your Nation newspaper in today’s edition.
This one is going to increase your country deep shit.
….and it is not coming from any Jamaican.
http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/barrack-on-the-attack/
We are with you 100% Al Barrack. Every Caribbean country have problems with Barbados. I wonder why?
A must read:
http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/barrack-on-the-attack/
as said earlier if barbados is such a bad place to live, why the france wont your ppl leave or stay in idylic jamaica? post all the links you want. why wont JAMAICANS stay in JAMAICA and not come here? the average jamaicunt wants to come here and further more overstay here. and when immigration gotta knock at dem house at 3 o clock in the morning to catch dem and send dem back home dem unreasonable.
Legitimate jamaicans are welcome to come here, the rest of the trash like who are posting garbage can stay at the dump. most bajans living in jamaica work or study legitimately
no one never said barbados is without its problems but a jamaican could learn something about patience and not jumping to conclusions. i could post a million links about your corrupt government and unprofessional and corrupt police but why bother? everyone and dem mudda know bout wunna already.
how wunna want to come to someone house, track mud on the carpet, open dem fridge and eat dem food wid out asking, get kick out and den cry out dat de owner of de house assault wunna?
schupes
dumbass jamaicans sicken me.
and if it is discovered that shaniqua myrie is a liar (that is more lying other than when she tried to feed bullshit to immigration officials regarding her stay) we wont hear a peep from yall anymore and she wont get into any trouble there either cuz lying, false accusations and corruption is business as usual there.
i still waiting on the mass exodus of jamaicans to leave here.
@al robinson -isn’t funny how all these allergations are just coming out very recently as if to back up the myrie case! Alex jones of INFOWARS was on russian tv talking about how the CIA/IRA pay people to sit on the internet and hype issues and fuel arguments (spies) in other words.
Go and read about the original jews (Mafia) of lower eastside new york and then the IRA and see who the jamaicans are dealing with, and their tenticles reach everywhere, look at this article(above) – a man from st.vincent now.
ITS THE INFORMATION AGE, LOOK AT THE CRIMES HAPPENING IN BRITAIN, AMERICA, ST VINCENT, IRELAND AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST JAMAICA, and furthermore lets check what jamaican procedures are for abusive airport officials because we know it happens everywhere – don’t we.
When people want to act stupid and talk stupid like @africanus and al robinson. Its time to check on everybodies airport treatment.
Jamaicans get treated like ms myrie in britian and america but it isn’t turned into a media circus with other countries joining in, this is just pure desperation and jealousy- especially in these hard economic times eh?
It seems that as economies fall (some faster than others) people from these destraught places who i might add are largely unskilled and probably looking for handouts and benefits where it has been cut off in their own countries – the only problem is Barbados is small and cannot accomodate all the scroungers who want to come begging so we will have to be very choosy, and to also make sure that people who come actually have a job, a useful skill (other than running and singing, which anyone can do) a place of residence ( other than a hotel/motel) and all other infomation by interpol on them.
Thats what happens in developed western countries, do we hear jamaicans or any other country in the caribbean complaining NO!
Barbados has the right to turn away undesirables whereever they come from.
BAJANS TIGHTEN UP, because although barbados has been a successful tourist destination for many years without complaint – we suddenly have a glut of them all at once, WHAT CRAP and we know it is.
There are a lot of white people living in barbados also who will suffer as a result of stupid accusation (by jamaicans and others) which even they know isn’t true. Tourism in general will break down and leave everyone in kaka because all trust will be gone. A certain group of disgtraught people have decided they want to carry on, but even they have to wait for facts and evidence of the Myrie case but as i stressed all angles will have to looked into because it seems some people just want money (just like the man in that article)
These gangs are good at raiding other peoples economies and not caring who gets hurt.
@J. Payne, I concur with much of what you have said. Peace.
GANGS OF NEW YORK
Read about the reality of African-Americans, who escaped from the south, and new immigrants, such as the Italians and Yiddish speaking Jews, in Postindustrial New York in the book called, “Still the Promised City? African-Americans and New Immigrants in Postindustrial New York”
Roger Waldinger (Author)
This book is used by some colleges for readings in political science. You will get a better understanding as to why NYC was a breeding ground for African Americans and immigrants gangs. Why it was so easy for new immigrants to be forced in forming their own groups (gangs) to survive in that harsh climate where they were denied jobs because language barrier and municipal corruptions.
The doors to government jobs began to open up to well-educated Jews after the collapse of the U.S. economy. Nepotism was the order of the day before the collapse.
@ africanus ahh what a sympathsize, I wonder if people know your the same eastend gang of london that comprise of jew, irish and jamaican that has been tapping peoples phones robbing, stealing and killing and starting trouble everywhere. Did you hear the lastest in london. The cheif reporter and second in command at the NEWS OF THE WORLD
(owned as part of the rupert murdoch media empire)newspaper have been caught for the phone tapping scandal that gripping england, especially after the expenses fraud at the house of commons. I would encourage all bajans to read about the scum that comes out of england, these ones called themselves politicians but where just common folk trying to act like they knew what they were talking about.
England has decended into hell, so i don’t know why i was reading about scolarship for studying over there for, students are dropping out of university because the fees are out of order. people are marching in the streets about cutbacks, student tuition fees, unnecessary expenditure on wars that shouldn’t even concern them and corruption in very high places, thats england at the moment!
Forget the long ass lectures africanus as this is just a forum for chat anyway!
I for one can’t believe that these people who are chatting all over this particular sitiuation for so long can’t even stay on the subject, still spinning round in circles, its really not worth all that, but your trying to make it look as if it is -well to bad, there’s more important things going on in the world anyway.
ALL COMPLAINANTS TO BE LOOKED INTO THROUGHLY!!!!!!!!!!!
Has the US done lock up dat druggie Jamaican singer in Florida that was charged with cocaine just recently?
Drug pushers!
three counts out of four boxy, mr myrie aka Buju banton.
Al Robinson, you are right that finger search is primitive, bajan should do like the US and form stings, to arrest drug dealers like buju banton, Jamaican extraordinaire cocaine man. Thanks for the good advice. I take it you are ashamed of your drug dealing countrymen and are just trying to help bajans do things differently so that they can lock up the cocaine pushing brutes.
bajans dont want our immigration to get away wid any slackness, the way these dudes are talking its as if bajans think its ok to physically assault someone. all most bajans are saying is lets wait until the investigation either proves ms myrie a liar or a victim. what jamaicans are saying is dem want apology, and a whole bran a cunt BEFORE evidence comes forth or investigation done, then they continue to accuse and spread shit dat she did for a fact get assault as if dem did hiding up in she pokey. this is what pisses me off. all it shows is dat most jamaicans are about strife. (which almost everyone in the world already believes this) then they insult our country, women, sexual orientation, education and basicly everything dem cud think of. claim dat jamaicans doan wish to visit here and ting. yet statistics show dem still coming by the plane loads. and that even ain include the skilled labor or students. and this attitude is what they are notorious for. they get in a passion and act before dem think things through or gather more information.
Bajan cops questioned in reported rape of Jamaican woman
Victim claims policemen allegedly raped and sexually assaulted her
Jamaica Observer
Tuesday, April 05, 2011
Barbadian investigators last night interrogated three police officers in connection with the alleged rape and sexual assault of a Jamaican woman while she was in custody.
The 27-year-old woman who is from Spanish Town, St Catherine, was arrested at the Grantley Adams airport in late February after about two kilogrammes of marijuana were found in her luggage.
She was taken to the Central Police Station where the incident reportedly occurred.
The woman claims a female officer let two male cops in her cell during her first night in custody and she was raped and sexually assaulted by the two cops who subjected her to taunts and inhumane treatment.
The alleged rape victim has since been remanded to the HMP Dodds facility in St Phillip and is awaiting her trial.
Efforts to contact Assistant Superintendent Curvan Harvey of the Royal Barbados Police Force proved futile.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Bajan-cops-questioned-in-rape-of-Jamaican-woman#ixzz1IhCx2vf4
http://www.jamaicanpolice.com/2011/02/five-policemen-taken-off-front-line-duty-for-allegedly-gang-raping-exotic-dancer/
police gang rape exotic dancer
http://www.jamaicanpolice.com/2010/06/policeman-charged-with-attempted-rape/
police charged with attempted rape
http://www.jamaicanpolice.com/2010/02/policeman-gets-18-months-for-indecent-assault-on-nine-year-old/
jamaican police love 9 year olds
jamaican police love dem own family
http://www.jamaicanpolice.com/2009/12/policeman-arrested-for-incest/
africanus no history lesson to add?
@ come on , wha gwan on, yeh dun kno de puhlice jess a reflexion a de sochiety?And we done know de conexxsion wid de coke man an de mins’sters. Corrupt nuh, man.
If i was from another island i would hate jamaicans too,i mean they do everything extra.when you mention the caribbean its the first island come to mind.
They could not just win the races in the olympic they had to break all records.
They could not stick with the caribbean sports they had to enter the winter olympics bobsled and now dog sled.
They could not just listen to the american music like everyone else they had to create there own Reggae music which is the signature for the islands.
They could not just sell one pound of ganja they had to sell containers.
When my girlfriend use to tell people in atlanta who never traveled she is from barbados they use to ask her where in jamaica is that.
@ christopher: love it
What a load of crap, yes EXTRA in CRIME, EXTRA in BRAGGING about nothing in particular, EXTRA in TALKING about things of little or non importance. There are many countries that can say they have a sporting record and YES the black americans carried the swing, from slavery coming through and NO they weren’t jamaicans – back then they were africans in america.
Bajans have intellectual persuits, like keeping ones country sane and healthy, keeping bullshit walkers and talkers out, improvement, stability etc
Anyone on our level will be quite welcome in our properous and popular country -BARBADOS. very well known and infact thats why desperate and greedy people who talk crap want to go there and start some shit BUT we’re onto them, black and white alike!!!!
you know why jamaicans are runners?
They run from crime scene
They run from their problems
They run from any sensible argument
They run from home and family
They run political and economical solutions
They run from themselves
and finally
They are running from their BRUK AN MASH DOWN counrty called JAMAICA
When you stop running long enough to start listening, let us know!
@christopher you hit the nail on its head.
Whenever Jamaica does something, a major part of the eastern Caribbean people really feels threatened. They believe that Jamaica is competing against them.
I have spent 5 years listening to them, without saying a word. You cannot sit down, without these eastern Caribbean people comparing and criticizing other Caribbean islands.
When the movie called, “Cool Runnings” came out; I was shocked to see an eastern Caribbean newspaper, asking this exact question, “Why do we allow Jamaica to upstage us in the movie business?” They were fuming because a Hollywood movie, about Jamaica bobsled team, was well received internationally and they believe that we made the movie because we believe we are better than them.
The same was true about reggae Boyz qualifying for the world cup. instead of them feeling happy for us, they became enraged with jealousy.
I was at a Caribbean party in NYC and about 2 ‘o’clock, we were all hungry and the only food we could get was some cold eastern Caribbean food. I am sure that if it was warm it would taste better, but right there at 2 am, with alcohol in my system, an eastern Caribbean nationals leaned over and whispered in ear, “ It taste better than patty, nu true.?” I could do nothing, but shake my head.
Jamaica: Debt, Economic Performance and Labour Productivity
by Michale Sheckleford, Jamaican national and COHA Research Associate
The Jamaican economy suffers from serious debt, high inflation and uneven growth rates
Current economic policies, such as exchange rate devaluation and debt-servicing, only exacerbate Jamaica’s economic downslide
To resolve this crisis, the government must implement measures aimed at sustainable growth, such as improving the quality of education and facilitating credit access for small borrowers
Ultimately, Jamaica may be forced to walk the Argentine road of debt renunciation in order to keep from going under
Jamaica Faces a Somber Future
The Jamaican economy has suffered numerous challenges and setbacks in the increasingly competitive global environment. Ultimately, if Jamaica cannot solve its problems by conventional means, it may be persuaded to take the Argentine road of debt renunciation.
Since the 1960s, when the country enjoyed growth rates ranging from 2 percent to 8 percent per annum, the island has been unable to sustain high growth rates over an extended period of time. Jamaica continues to be vulnerable to falling prices and worldwide economic shocks, which have contributed to the pronounced fluctuating nature of its economy. The primary economic problems currently facing the Caribbean nation include high internal debt, a large trade deficit, swollen interest and inflation rates, chronically elevated unemployment levels, as well as low worker productivity, all of which fuel political unrest and escalating gang violence.
Traditionally, the Jamaican populace has blamed its political elites for the country’s poor economic performance. However, the position of the economy is attributable to more than just poor policy implementation on the part of national leaders. External factors also play a large role in its present parlous position. The oil crises of 1973-1974 and again in 1978-1979 significantly damaged the heavily petroleum-dependent state. During the 1970s and 1980s, both the Manley and Seaga administrations, in an attempt to revamp the economy and with the aid of international financial institutions, embarked on a programme of macroeconomic and structural reform, which focused on liberalizing the economy.
Since the 1980s, the government has undertaken the responsibility of limiting the state’s role in the economy, promoting the development of export driven production, reducing the fiscal and current account deficit, as well as eliminating poverty and inequality. Thus far, these objectives mostly have been met with limited success. The debt situation is alarming and continues to hamper economic growth by drawing heavily upon resources that could be put to more productive uses. The debt overhang also limits the extension of credit to the weaker margins of the private sector, particularly towards medium and small borrowers. In order to improve the economic situation, policies aimed at sustainable growth, such as a greater investment in education, have to be implemented to increase human capital and the labour force’s productivity.
The Economic Situation in Brief
Currently, the Jamaican economy is service-oriented and accounts for 60 percent of the island’s GDP (US $12.17 billion for fiscal year 2005). The primary sources of foreign exchange include remittances, tourism and bauxite mining. The worldwide economic recession in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks had adverse economic implications for Jamaica. Even though the economy recovered partially between 2003 and 2004, the country still faces a number of long-term problems. The current debt-to-GDP ratio is 135 percent, pointing to a serious budget deficit which only expanded in the wake of Hurricane Ivan because of the expenditures necessary to repair the damage incurred by the natural disaster.
During the 1990s, there was a reduction in the inflation rate, which had been in the double digits for much of the 1970s and 1980s. The benefit of controlling inflation, coupled with an increase in remittances from overseas, brought much of the population above the poverty line, which had declined from a peak of 44.6% in 1991 to 16.7 % in 2001. The control of inflation, however, was achieved by increasing net foreign currency reserves, which was partly financed by borrowing. This eventually sank the country even deeper into debt. In the long run, this borrowing led to more debt financing as more money was allocated towards the payment of loans. This capital could have been far better applied to other sectors of the economy, generating much needed revenue and therefore improving socioeconomic conditions and reducing the alarming incidence of crime. Unfortunately, the inflation rate, which was in single digits since 1997, once again entered double figures in 2003. While the inflation rate is still in double figures as of 2005 (12.9 percent), it has been exhibiting a declining trend from a high of 14.1 percent in fiscal year 2003.
The Debt Crisis
The crisis currently affecting the Jamaican economy with respect to high debts, interest rates and burgeoning trade deficits, is grounded in the severe economic setbacks of the 1990s. This decade was characterized by negative or otherwise abysmal economic growth and high levels of unemployment. After realizing economic growth rates of 5.5 percent in 1990, the next highest growth rate for the Jamaican economy was only 2 percent in 1993. Furthermore, Jamaica experienced negative growth rates in GDP during the 1996-1999 period, when unemployment rates averaged over 18 percent. The Jamaican government absorbed debts amounting to 44 percent of GDP in the wake of the financial sector crisis of 1995-96, one of the most crushing economic catastrophes in the world in terms of its effects on GDP. This crash was due to the poor regulation and management of the Jamaican financial sector. Since the crisis, monitoring and regulation has substantially improved. It was this financial crash that primarily contributed to the island’s currently high debt-to-GDP ratio. Most of this debt is held by local creditors (90 percent), with the financial sector preferring to extend credit to the government rather than to the private sector.
Lending to private institutions has been considered “risky business” since the banking crisis, when non-performing private-sector loans led many financial institutions to declare bankruptcy. Also, the interest rates on government loans are higher than that of private loans, making government borrowing more attractive. Therefore, this limits the accessibility of capital to the private sector, particularly for borrowers who lack significant collateral (which is security for loans, such as land). With regards to government loans, domestic interest repayments are four times greater than foreign interest repayments. This played no small part in causing domestic debt to amount to approximately 37 percent of expenditures and 54 percent of tax revenues, in part because of the high as well as fluctuating interest rates on government treasury bills (monetary instruments used by the government to borrow money from the public). External debt now amounts to 60 percent of Jamaica’s GDP, and is governed by the floating exchange rate. Clearly, the current debt situation is very bleak. Economic growth has been stifled by crowding out private loans as a result of heavy debt-servicing obligations.
Policy Evaluation
The government’s policy of maintaining an unfavourable exchange rate is a double-edged sword. Along with reducing tariffs and eliminating duties on raw materials and other imports necessary for production, exchange rate depreciation continues to be one of the primary tools employed by the government to improve Jamaica’s competitiveness in the world market. It has been argued that a weakening currency improves trade deficits because one’s exports become cheaper relative to other goods on the market and therefore improves the competitiveness of one’s products in the global trading arena. Conversely, a declining exchange rate increases the cost of imported goods within one’s country. However, while such economic reasoning might be sound on the surface, other factors have to be taken into account. Jamaica is heavily dependent on imported raw materials, particularly oil, which is necessary for electricity generation, transportation and production. This is especially true in the bauxite sector, a heavily energy-intensive industry.
Since Jamaica is not an oil producer, this essential resource has to be imported. Moreover, the cost of oil is denominated in U.S. dollars, which has been appreciating steadily in value against the Jamaican dollar, therefore making this resource increasingly expensive on the domestic market. Currently, the exchange rate is roughly US $1.00: J$ 65.00, which not only increases the price of oil and its dependent processes, but also inflates the cost of production overall, making the final price of goods and services uncompetitive. This is one of the contributing factors to the escalating inflation rate. The free-floating exchange rate is also highly volatile, subject to sharp declines, therefore dampening investor confidence and stifling economic growth. In this light, the declining exchange rate seems to hamper rather than improve Jamaica’s economic competitiveness.
Another very serious trade off in devaluing the Jamaican currency is that, since the majority of debt is in American dollars, it is determined by the exchange rate. Thus, as the exchange rate continues to decline, the level of debt continues to escalate as a percentage of GDP, as increasing amounts of money have to be allocated towards debt-servicing. In the end, the debt overhang and interest payments will continue to increase, taxing the economy by using funds that could be put to more productive use.
A Better Approach
There may be more practical ways to improve Jamaica’s competitiveness in the global market. More could be done to boost labour force productivity. Education increases the human capital of any given society, leading to greater worker productivity and therefore economic advancement. Furthermore, the incidence of the young engaging in risky behaviour, including violence, is much lower (70 percent) for both sexes who possess a solid educational background. This is particularly important for Jamaica, which needs to increase labour productivity and reduce its crime rate. The high crime rate profoundly hurts economic development because it burdens the business environment with additional security costs. It also creates an environment of instability, producing reluctance on the part of both local businessmen and foreigners to invest in the island’s economy.
Improving the educational system, however, will prove to be an expensive venture. One way to raise the amount of funding allocated for education is to use savings created by reducing the roster of the government bureaucracy and its functions, in particular the ever-increasing public sector wage bill. Currently, the salaries of public sector employees account for about one-third of government spending. The cost savings to be realized by controlling salary increases can instead be invested in improving the quality of the educational framework. At the same time, the purpose of a society is that it is there to serve the needs of its people, which means that social justice measures need to be advanced, not retarded.
Jamaica’s large informal sector should also be taxed in order to improve the educational system, but one should not ignore the limited funds at play here. The informal sector in this instance refers to street peddlers, known in common parlance as “higglers,” along with other petty traders who currently do not pay taxes in order to operate their businesses. Taxation in the form of licenses and permits could be employed to achieve this objective. In addition, in order to retain the country’s trained professionals, more needs to be done to stem the “brain drain” afflicting the island. This can be achieved by producing incentives to entice young, trained professionals to remain on the island, through expanding industry, increasing investment and most importantly, by addressing the crime situation, which drives many to emigrate.
The Outlook
It is imperative that the debt overhang be eliminated and that policies are geared towards boosting the human capital of the country in order to improve Jamaica’s economic competitiveness. The current debt crisis is limiting potential private sector loans, particularly amongst small and medium borrowers who find it virtually impossible to secure credit. In turn, this makes it difficult for individuals to invest within the economy, again stymieing economic growth. Credit bureaus should be established to access credit reports in order to distinguish between those who will repay their loans from those who will not. This would encourage domestic investment in the Jamaican economy, be an essential source of additional tax revenue, as well as a credible means for employment. Also, the mechanisms for tax collection need to become more efficient to address the pressing problem of the country’s debt, and at the same time, provide the necessary funding to improve the educational system. Already, the current tax rates are high and burdensome. Therefore, raising taxes would only incite serious political and social unrest. Improvements in labour productivity would also enhance economic growth and international competitiveness, despite Jamaica’s comparatively high cost of labour in the region. Thus, it is imperative for the government to reduce the country’s debt burden and invest in education so as to increase Jamaica’s human capital. This would be perhaps the most obvious way to facilitate the island’s emergence from the chronic problem of poor and uneven economic growth.
Bajan
@Bajan, since you guys don’t want history lessons then go and do your own research on the reasons given when Europeans dominated the Olympics and look at all the wonderful things they say about their own race. When Hitler attended the Olympics and saw than black Americans were winning and destroying their racial stereotype theories, Hitler who had early associated European dominance of the sports to European superiority, changed and assigned something negative and inferior as to why blacks were now dominating the games.
Bajan, you are so mentally conditioned to think like the haters.
Skin Bleaching A Disturbing Problem In Jamaica
by E90 on September 26, 2008
in Uncategorized
Both men and women, mostly from the poorer parts of Jamaica, have turn to the bleaching cream to get that brown tan look that a lot of people are craving worldwide. But why is this so? Majority of the bleachers know that this practice damage their skin. They know it is not healthy, but they continue to do it and the authorities are not doing enough to stop this disturbing trend.
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This is definitely a social problem that needs to be addressed urgently. No longer should the government sit and watch people damage their skin because they think it will make them more beautiful or more accepted. This is so not the case, on the contrary they look a lot worse when they bleach their skin.
In the video below, the doctor said that some of them can’t even go out in the sun because of the sensitivity of their skin. He referred to them as Vampires, that was particularly funny.
The reality of the matter is these individuals need to wake up. It’s disgusting, it’s wrong, but if one can’t convince people to stop smoking, I don’t think anyone will be able to convince individuals to stop bleaching their skin. It’s the sad reality of life we have to live with on a day to day basis.
Do you think this problem needs to be address urgently or should we leave it alone, seeing that it’s their skin and they are not harming anyone?
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to check ones reality is not to hate, its to open ones eyes. Furthermore i don’t need lectures about what JESSE OWENS did infront of hitler and hitler was a fool who even cares about his opinions or theories, they’ve been blown to hell by the black race in general anyway!
Why might tourism be an economic problem in Jamaica?
No tourists, no economy.
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This is an odd question because without tourism and ganja Jamaica would have virtually no way to make money. Let’s face it, the island isn’t manufacturing very much of anything or producing many rocket scientists, now are they?
by Raider
Member since:
October 01, 2010
Tourism, or the lack of it, is hard on the economy of Jamaica since that is the major industry of that Island.
The Jamaican economy is heavily dependent on services, which now account for more than 60% of GDP. The country continues to derive most of its foreign exchange from tourism, remittances, and bauxite/alumina. Remittances account for nearly 20% of GDP and are equivalent to tourism revenues. Jamaica’s economy, already saddled with the lowest economic growth in Latin America, will face increasing difficulties as the global economy slows. The economy faces serious long-term problems: a sizable merchandise trade deficit, large-scale unemployment and underemployment, and a debt-to-GDP ratio of almost 130%. Jamaica’s onerous debt burden – the fourth highest per capita – is the result of government bailouts to ailing sectors of the economy, most notably the financial sector in the mid-to-late 1990s.
africanus you got bowled for six at your own game. how dare you try to prove your point by showing 1 or two instances of police allegedly abusing ppl in barbados when you are from the police abuse capital of the world?
all you seem to do is ramble and go off on a tangent, glad to see you get shut up at your own shit. And trust me bajans are not jealous of anything jamaicans do. we cheered on the reggae boys and wefelt pridewhen usain bolt shatered those records. but you cant have the good without the bad. we are dissapointed everytime drugs are netted in the possession of nationals and non nationals. i hate the lewd behaviour that is now being adopted by our impressionable youth. these skin out competitions and passa passas. these tight pants wearing, big shades wearing bad behaved rude boys dat cropping up under the influence of your dance hall artiststs. you have your positives which were highlighted by your ppl on here but your negatives are overshadowing you.
@ bajan i think its time for your meds.i am a jamaican i work for carnival cruise and have visted almost all the caribbean islands and i am not being bias when i say jamaicans have somthing that every other caribbean island envy and its BALLS,we are not scared and we dont follow when i just start working on the ship every one had to eat the ship food we jamaicans start cooking our own pot and all other islands start stretching there plate for food,but thats what we do we are trendsetters,and we may not be the richest but we are the strongest and the proudest,you would be amaze the places on this planet i go on the ship and people know us,a zimbabwe lady bow to my friend feet in spain and said bob marley open the world eyes to what was going on in zimbabwe.so i have positive experience of what my little island do for people on the other side of the globe,when we step of the ship in austria and the say where u from we said the carribean they said what? then we say JAMAICA oh jamaica i like u hey its a jamaican ,everyone surround us my blood run cold we drink and it for free,I am proud of my country .i can bet everyone who is bashing jamaica have reggae music in there music file,i dont have bajan music i dont even know what bajan ever create all i know they suck up to england,while we break away and create our own destiny and good or bad atleast we did it our way.no diss to bajans but the ones on the ship are educated fools and they are very coward we are always defending them yet they are always trying to compare our islands so they can feel better about there self so go ahead if thats what floats ur boat we are busy trying to make the next big leap.
yawwwn, yet let gangs control your politics, economy and your well being. give me a break. that strength you feel you have is weakness buddy. a strong country takes care of its ppl’s safety and well being. a strong country’s ppl take care of its country.
ok so jamaicans are suppling barbados with drugs big deal thats because the demand is there, if its not ja then it will be someone else,so why not ja cash in of the bajans junky habbits after all barbados is a boring country so its either drugs or booz,AND you are arrassing people at the air port, please,everyone knows the real jamaican drug dealers use cigarette boats and enter barbados by water while the small fries come through airport.
so get use to it after all what a big brother country is for,so say thanks and stop been snubs. b1tches, LOL.
Barbados is so badd, ent?
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High marks for Barbados model
http://www.nationnews.com/index.php/articles/view/high-marks-for-barbados-model/
BARBADOS’ MODEL of development has been cited by a Harvard University professor as one of the best examples in Latin American and Caribbean.
Looks like *WE* are the Caribbean which people want to see and hear about. *wink*
Barbados at least functions for basic things. Hence why Guyana and Trinidad and Tobago wanted to confederate with us in the 1990s?
Source: Trinidad and Tobago Parliamentary Hansard of 26 January 1996. — “9th Sitting – 1st Session – 5th Parliament”.
Link: http://www.ttparliament.org/hansards/hh19960126.pdf
“In 1991, an initiative was announced by us (Trinidad and Tobago) which involved economic and eventually political association—and in this instance it was expressly stated, political association—between Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados and Guyana. That approach came about because of a recognition of the advantages to be gained by the respective populations involved.”
Note: If Barbados (1 quarter million people), plus T&T (1.5 million people) plus Guyana (3 quarters of a million people) confederated the population would be the same as Jamaica with nuff resources for so and times more land area…… It would have combined’ Barbados and T&T’s wealth with Guyana’s land resources and you’d see a Southern Caribbean powerhouse.
Very well said Bajan !Jamaica is the WORST place to live in the Caribbean.Who said that Ms.Myrie was finger raped ?Ms.Myrie,BRING PROOF or shut up !Hear say doesn’t count for a THING !Come back to Bdos and identify the Police Officer,the Custom Officer or the Immigration Officer,or was it a Red Cap,maybe it was a Security Officer !All like now YOU should have identified the person or persons. Your Lawyer together with the help of the Governments of Bdos and Jamaica,should have brought you back to Bdos under cover so that you could IDENTIFY the Officer in question.All the Bdos Goverment has to do,is to call a meeting for ALL staff of the Customs and Immigration who work at the Airport,and let Ms. Myrie make a guest appearance.I am confident that ALL OF THE STAFF WOULD ATTEND.Let her identify the rapist ,FULL STOP !
@ja we would gladly prefer to know nothing about jamaica, unfortunately everytime yuh turn around in barbados one in yuh face, everytime a drug bust is made, yall involved, everytime yuh open the court pages in the paper, wunna kill somebody or rob somebody. everytime yuh go to a social gathering it end in fighting between a jamaican and somebody. up until the other day immigrants were recieving free healthcare here. yes thats right the same country that you claim hate foreigners were spending bajan tax dollars to heal your sick. we have our social ills, but bajans have to start thinking about bajans since it is discovered that nobody ain thinking about us. we are this and we are that but when there is a issue in any caricom country we are up in the front lines donating and giving what little we have to help without expecting anything in return. you want bajans to stick to our own affairs? as long as some of your citizens come here and look to do negative things in bim, you are our affairs. i bet some jamaicans have come here and done positive things but the negatives too far outweigh the negatives.
there isnt one bajan that i have heard say that if myrie is telling the truth that justice should not be served. but no jamaican ain tink objectively and accepted the possibility that she is lying. cuz you ppl on here arent about getting to the truth, your so accustomed to being cast in the bad light that this is your oppurtunity to inflict harm for a change so rationale and objectivity went right out the window. we see links that you are posting about a jamaican girl being assaulted in a jail to help prove your pointbut back in february 5 of your finest allegedly gang raped an exotic dancer. (notice how i said allegedly and not outright found your guys guilty)
here whether the crime involves a foreigner or not it sparks national debate and justice is usually served, this is not business as usual in barbados as some of you would claim.
The high literacy rate in Barbados doesn’t speak volume at all. Perhaps y’all are autistic in Barbados. Look at the way you guys put your arguments across? Not too convincing, one big bunch of waste of timers
no need to convince yall about jamaica, wunna live deh, take a drive. open a newspaper, turn on the news.
WOW!
Legendary Jamaican drugs café is closed
By Jason Bennetto, Crime Correspondent
Among drug connoisseurs, crack addicts, Jamaican gangsters and social historians the Black and White café in Bristol has a legendary status.
Among drug connoisseurs, crack addicts, Jamaican gangsters and social historians the Black and White café in Bristol has a legendary status.
But within the police its reputation is that of the country’s most raided drugs den.
The Caribbean food café, where popular dishes include goat curry, has been a thorn in the side of the authorities ever since it was set up as an illegal drinking hangout in the 1970s.
In 1980 it shot to national prominence when a detective constable emerging from the café with a bag of cannabis was confronted by a group of black youths – sparking one of the most serious riots in Britain since the Second World War.
Dope-dealing at the café gave way to crack cocaine in the 1990s as Jamaican Yardie gangsters established themselves in the St Paul’s district of Bristol, where the eatery is based. Gun crime and violence quickly followed.
But now, after more than two decades of the struggle to bring law and order to the “Black and White”, the café is finally closing. The keys were handed over to police yesterday afternoon after legal action using new anti-social behaviour laws. In a few months’ time the city council will take possession of the dilapidated building, along with the Victorian terrace in which it stands, which is being demolished to make way for social housing.
Inspector Andy Bennett, the officer in charge of policing St Paul’s, recalled a housing association worker in Bristol being amazed to overhear a conversation while lying on the beach in Montego Bay between two Jamaicans talking about getting drugs at the “Black and White” in her home town. “People came to the café from all over the West Country and South Wales to buy drugs,” he said. “It was open 24/7. It was even known in Jamaica.”
The two-storey building sold Jamaican food, which was eaten at breakfast bars. Cans of Red Stripe lager could also be purchased through the food hatch. On each floor was a pool table, and it was around these that most of the dealing took place.
Police have made hundreds of arrests either inside or just outside the café for offences ranging from drug dealing to assault and robbery over the past two decades. Drugs have been found in customers’ jackets, behind a false ceiling panel, in the lavatories, the pool tables, and the backs of speakers. Officers have been attacked by customers and rioting broke out on two occasions in 1986. Weapons and illegal immigrants as well as drugs have frequently been seized at the café and several people have also reported being assaulted or held “hostage”.
On Saturday last week the police raided the café and seized about 200 £10 wraps of crack cocaine and a small amount of heroin and cannabis.
During the 1980 riots after a raid on the café a bank and a post office were attacked and a row of shops and a warehouse were set alight. Twelve police cars and several fire engines were damaged or set ablaze and dozens of people were injured.
After armed members of the Aggi Crew gang stormed in to the café and demanded a “tax” from a rival gang of Jamaican drug dealers, police took the unprecedented step of putting armed officers on 24-hour patrol in the district.
Steven Wilks, the owner of the café, took it over from his father who set it up in 1971. He has been fighting the police and city council to keep his business going. He told a court hearing: “For 30 years we have provided black food for the black community. I don’t sell drugs. The café has been subject to negative press since day one, but closing the café is not going to change the drug situation in St Paul’s. St Paul’s is rife with drugs. Crack cocaine has mashed up the community and we have all felt that, myself included.”
But local residents have rejoiced at the news of the café’s demise. Pete Woollard, who has lived in St Paul’s for 25 years, told the recent court hearing: “The dealers come down to the café to buy drugs. I have seen them on my wall chasing the dragon at 9am. This café is known throughout the world for drugs.”
TWO DECADES OF TROUBLE
Some of the incidents at Black and White café recorded by police over 23 years:
1980: Bristol riots after police raid Black and White café.
1984: Three officers attacked by customers after going into café to arrest a man.
1986, February: Two-day riot outside café after car chase.
September: Raid at café followed by three nights of rioting.
1992, February: Person seen to leave café and conduct a drugs deal, arrested and drugs seized.
August: Two suspected drug dealers stopped by police after leaving café and drugs found.
November: Drugs seized from pool table inside café.
1995, 8 February: Known offenders seen leaving café. Found with CS gas and drugs.
1996, 3 January: Two brothers shot in a disturbance outside the café. One later died.
1997, 25 July: Police raid, £20,000 worth of drugs seized, two arrests.
13 October: People arrested for supplying drugs inside café.
1999, 1 May: Murder of Gary Mignott outside café.
6 May-summer: 32 arrests for drug dealing.
21 June: Report of hostage at café.
2000, 31 May-10 August: Numerous arrests and drug seizures at the cafe.
14 December: Sock containing drugs found inside café.
2002, 1 January: Stabbing outside café. Man seen outside café pointing a gun at a woman.
12 February: 29 arrests for drugs and immigration offences.
14-15 May: Three people convicted of conspiracy to supply controlled drugs.
22 October: Drugs seized from hole in wall inside café.
27 November: Assault on officer inside café.
2003, 13 January: Aggi Crew gang stage hold-up inside café.
23 January: Café searched by consent, drugs seized from a hole inside toilet unit and also from inside an electronic bar game.
23 April: Report of 50 people fighting outside the cafe.
BFP…please close down this stupid and “going nowhere” topic.You will do Barbados and Jamaica a big favour!
@yatinkiteasy
I told everyone to wait for the outcome. When it comes to the burden of proof, it doesnt look good for jamaica -does it?
The drugs and guns link, plus the amount of suckcessful artists/althletes getting caught for drugs, high profile crime cases from america, britian and canada etc. Distraught economy, desperate sitiuation, the list is endless.
Anyone else who even tries to ‘dis’ barbados and her people will get a lashing to remember. These international newspapers that aren’t owned by jamaicans or barbadians better stop hyping. There are plenty of more pressing and important issues to be getting on with like ‘the global economic meltdown….GOT A PLAN!
She (Ms. Myrie) has been invited by the Barbados government back to Barbados to point out who she alleges abused her.
Will she come? Will her story further crumble? (It was this immigration, no- customs, etc.)
http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/barbados-open-to-myries-help/
http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/two-police-officers-to-appear-in-court-this-morning-to-answer-assault-charg/
Looks like Gov’t workers in Barbados are sexual predators.
Bajan, we are not proud of the crime that takes place in our country but you regurgitating stuff that you scan the internet for won’t bring us shame. You know why? I am sure the majority of Jcans are loving, law abiding people who will always put on a brave face and unite in the event of a tragedy.
Still we know that it is only a small amount of Jcan ahave no regard for the law, who are ostentatious in a bad wayso if you wanna run with that and use that to label all Jamaicans congratulations. That is what happens when ppl lack commonsense and open mind, they are myopic. Hope some day you will learn
The above is the way ignoramuses, like @bajan, put forth their arguments and there is nothing you can do or say to get them to see that they are not making any sense. Although, I have posted a website for you guys to develop your critical thinking skills, you have ignored my encouragement and adapted emotional arguments. The thing with emotional argument is that it doesn’t have to support premises. Conclusions are drawn, but you cannot see what it has to do with the premises of the arguments.
Let me try to break down bajan’s latest illogical arguments.
“I told everyone to wait for the outcome. When it comes to the burden of proof, it doesnt look good for jamaica -does it? The drugs and guns link, plus the amount of suckcessful artists/althletes getting caught for drugs, high profile crime cases from america, britian and canada etc. Distraught economy, desperate sitiuation, the list is endless.”
This case has nothing to do with drugs and guns, but a woman who said she was abused by a Bajan law enforcement official. Since this case made the news, people from different nationalities, including other Jamaicans, have come forward to accuse the Bajan law enforcement department of rape and other abuses, yet these bloggers are so mentally retarded that they cannot see that the only one who should be nervous is the Bajan government.
The focus here is that the Barbados law enforcement has a history of abusing foreigners. While it can be argued that Jamaicans has a history of antisocial behaviors, not Jamaicans are on trial here, just one single woman who is blaming a single Bajan government department which has a known history of abuse. Now, if you could prove that this woman broke any law while trying to enter Barbados or she has a history of violence, you would have a stronger case, but you don’t.
@africanus
You always claim your making an intellent argument but anyone can tell your just an annoying idiot who gets emotional with remarks like ‘ignoramuses’ and what encouragement are you speaking that we should adopt? I will not reiterate whats WRONG with the whole myrie incident or the fact that it might be an attempt to extort money ot that saboteurs and provocateurs like yourself, (who may or may not be in gangs) are controlled by some powerful people, who are no doubt racist in their agenda.
MY posts are there for facts against the mud slinging you and some others were doing, and no its not their to embarrass all jamaicans, but the posts WERE WRITTEN BY JAMIACANS FOR JAMAICANS and i don,t see what there is to be proud about @ waste of time. It gives the over all picture don’t you think!
Africanus, you point out that barbados enforcement has a history of abuse, well the jamaican law enforcement has a history of killing and abuse. Ms myrie is supposed to go an identify her assailant. If she was so called ‘finger raped’ like all your papers like to express it and who she ran to first then she should remeber who did that to her very clearly and settle this rubbish.
This case has been blown out of all proportion to be talking about logical argument!
I prefer to think about the earthquake hit haitians, ja[panese and other world affairs, ms myrie pales into insignificance when compared’
Africanus until ms myrie’s case is thoroughly investigated there is NO CASE to argue about, now is there!
lol
africanus et al are ignoring that one thing that we keep telling them, to WAIT UNTIL EVIDENCE OR A RESULT OF THE INVESTIGATION.
they dont want evidence, they want to stir up shit.
they even went as far as to draw links and make the claim that police here have a history of sexually abusing ppl and how we are perverts, then links had to be drawn to show jamaican police’s CONVICTIONS AND CHARGES of sexual abuse. some even with 9 year olds and incestuous relationships.
some even took pot shots at rihanna as if rihanna juck she finger in the jamaican woman crotch.
all i gotta say is show some evidence to support the claim. she was proven a liar once, who is to say she isnt lying again?
is it the police that did it or is it a customs officer, can one of you jamaicans that was the fly on the wall when this incident happen (so many) answer that question?
@bajan, if I appear to be annoying it is because ignorant fools like you exist in the world.
I am not intelligent. What I try to do is use facts to defend an argument instead of getting all emotional and hateful like you.
What evidence is there for you to even speculate by saying, “it might be an attempt to extort money to that saboteurs and provocateurs like yourself, (who may or may not be in gangs) are controlled by some powerful people, who are no doubt racist in their agenda”
You tell me where in the world anybody with an ounce of education, outside of politics, tries to defend an argument with speculations and innuendos. You are a propagandist. Your utterances are not unique. They can be found amongst bigots and xenophobes as well other sick minds who think that the world is out to get them.
To see how sick and twisted you are, you are the one mudslinging, yet you have the guts to come here and accuse us of such. It is clear that you don’t know the meaning of mudslinging because you are a dunce. And a very arrogant dunce. We haven’t posted any things negative about Barbados because contrary to what you might believe Jamaicans don’t think about our fellow Caribbean islands in the same sick and perverted way as you do.
We post studies and news reports to defend Jamaica against your ignorance. If you condemn our school system we post things, not about Barbados, but about Jamaica to show that you don’t know what you are talking about.
When you talk about our GDP we posted up-to-date statistics on Jamaica.
We are not here to defend Jamaica’s social problems, we are here to discuss this case, but we can’t do so because of dunce like you. I am trying to educate you up to a very basic level so that you can engage in logical reasoning.
@bajan wrote, “Africanus, you point out that barbados enforcement has a history of abuse, well the jamaican law enforcement has a history of killing and abuse.”
To point out the absurdity in your arguments look at the above “you too” logical fallacy.
This is a case between a Jamaican woman and a Barbados law enforcement officer. While it is true that Jamaican police are don’t have clean hands, the fact is that their actions have nothing to do with this case. The incidents surrounding this case took place in Barbados and it is about a Jamaican woman and a Barbados law enforcer. Your attempt to bring the Jamaica police into this argument makes no sense.
I pointed out that Barbados law enforcers have a history of abusing foreigners as a statement of fact. This history of criminal behaviors not only makes this woman’s story believable, but it will be used as a vocabulary of motive against the Barbados law officer.
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“….saboteurs and provocateurs like yourself, (who may or may not be in gangs) are controlled by some powerful people, who are no doubt racist in their agenda.”-bajan
There is nothing in any of my many comments, which would suggest that I am in a gang, getting paid to point out your illogical reasoning or hater.
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“ Ms myrie is supposed to go an identify her assailant. If she was so called ‘finger raped’ like all your papers like to express it and who she ran to first then she should remeber who did that to her very clearly and settle this rubbish.”-bajan
Let me try to get you to exercise that piece of crap you have for brains. Given her circumstance would it make sense or would it even be possible to report her abuse in Barbados, and if so, how? She came into the airport and was abused, then locked up and deported on the next flight, so when or how would it be possible to complain to the Barbados authorizes?
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“This case has been blown out of all proportion to be talking about logical argument!”-bajan
If to be blown out of proportion means to be logical, then from what tone/stance, if not anger and emotional, have you been commenting all along? Don’t u c something is really messed up with your way of thinking?
Barbados, jamaica is not your problem when it comes on to drugs,u guys are close to south america so the columbians are bringing in drugs by the water everyday and you know that, but u cant do anything because u dont have the man power to sourround ur coast line,so lets blame the jamaicans with there 1 oz of drugs comming through the air port every few months.please u can sell that bullshit to the people ,but we in ja knows better, barbados is small fish for us we dont have the time,so dont blame the entire jamaica for a few stupid people act.and barbados is not the little perfect island u guys are trying to make it.
@the truth
Look at how you can bullshit and talk crap, all the articles i put up shows that jamaica is known for drugs and gun crimes every where, even your althletes are reggea artists past and present and thats how its been spread. Even gregory isaacs and samuel jackson was known for their cocaine addiction. Jamaica is situated right next to nicaragua, honduras and colombia is right underneath jamaica, right where the drugs stem from in the first place and jamaicans have been plyers in that from morning, KNOW YOUR GEOGRAPHY AND HISTORY . Who can listen to your garbage when you come with arguments like that!
there is no where for jamaicans to go with their crazy arguments – all the proof is there for people to look up and see for themselves! this is the information age and there’s no point trying to blag and carry on blindly . PROOF is what bajans are dealing with no HYPE and LIES.
I don’t know why anyone is even paying attention to you lot and your issues in the first place!!!!
i feel that when foreign nationals are found guilty of crime here, after sentencing we should send them back to where dem come from to serve dem time instead of our tax dollars having to feed these ppl in our overcrowded jails. let them be a burden to their own country’s government (a little off topic i know)
‘@atlanta
Not at all off topic its all relating to crime and allergations of crime, your absolutely right, we don’t have to put up with other peoples garbage!
@bajan, people in the entertainment industry use some form of mind altering stimulant. It is not because they are bad people; it is because of the pressures which come from new found fame and the stresses of the job itself.
Your arguments about Jamaica’s drug use is equated to our bad behavior, but does that mean that artistes nurtured on Barbados soil don’t get sucked into the drugs industry? Who in his right mind would even associate Jamaican altheteles with drugs expect a narrow-minded person like you, who clearly has done nothing more than try to drag Jamaica’s name thru’ the mud.
Now on the matter of drugs and guns trafficking. Drugs flow from the south to the north and guns flows from the north to the south. Without the guns, it would be much easier for third world countries like Jamaica, to fight the scourge of drugs for which the United States of America has an insatiable appetite.
The United States made cocaine illegal almost 100 years ago, when it started having “bad” effects on the normally docile black people. For 100 years the mighty U.S. has been fighting against drugs, yet more drugs flow between the land border shared between Mexico and the U.S. than what gets into the U.S. by sea and air. Not only that, but how serious can America be when in post 9/11 guns are allowed, yes allowed, to flow freely into Mexico and the Caribbean from this rich country which has allotted billions to fight the trade. If after 100 years, the mighty U.S. cannot solve the drug problem what more do they want third world countries to do?
I am a practical man, so I know that the best way to solve a problem is to target the source of the problem, that is, if I am serious about solving the problem. If poppy is grown in south and Central America, a relatively small area when compared to the wider Caribbean area, why not concentrate on the SOURCES to choke off the supply? Why target Barbados, Jamaica, and St. Vincent, etc. when all the U.S has to do is target the drug factories in Latin America? You know why they don’t do it? Because AMERICA is the biggest bunch of trouble makers there is in the world. They have the largest ganja field right there in California and yet they are focusing on the less than 1 percent of ganja which by some stroke of luck gets into the U.S. by air and sea.
America is just talking crap about fighting the drug trade and they are allowing the guns to trade by land, air and sea from their gun manufacturers and merchants to drugs trade in the Caribbean and Latin America, yet a fool like @bajan blame the victims who get sucked into this trade. Just this week, my suspicious that all these things are happening because America is corrupt, when a news report reported that Mexican drugs cartels are corrupting American border patrols.
What Caribbean leaders need to ask the U.S. is why spread their resources so thinly when the cocaine factories and plants are all concentrated in Central America?
@bajan doesn’t want the facts from credible sources. No wonder he spends so much time mudslinging Jamaica. If we can trace problems from the present to the past then it would be easier to understand the problems we face today.
The U.S. is pressuring Barbados and other Caribbean islands about drugs and money laundering, while the U.S. is the main reason why the demands for drugs are so high.
See the web link to these accounts.
CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking
Main article: CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking in the US
Beginning with the Iran-Contra Affair, some politicians and journalists began arguing that the CIA contributed to the rise of the epidemic. Allegations ranged from the presence of drug ties to the Contra rebels, to possible direct involvement in drug trafficking by the Contras and even members of the CIA. The exact degree of awareness and involvement on the part of the CIA itself continues to be disputed. However, on April 17, 1986, the Reagan Administration released a three page report acknowledging that there were some Contra-cocaine connections in 1984 and 1985, arguing that these connections occurred at a time when the rebels were “particularly hard pressed for financial support” because U.S. aid had been cut off.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crack_epidemic_(United_States)
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History of Cocaine
http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/9712/appc.htm
Mexican cartels corrupting more US border officials?
Nearly 80 have been arrested in the last five years; hundreds more under investigation
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42061290/ns/world_news-americas/
The above headline could have easily read, Corrupt US border officials are giving Mexican drug cartel free access to U.S. markets.
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Calderon: U.S. needs assault weapons ban
He says guns from Americans are feeding Mexican violence
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37263405/ns/world_news-americas/
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Mexico drug violence not an ’emergency,’ White House says
Rule requiring gun stores to report multiple sales of assault rifles, other long guns, delayed
“While drug violence continues to spread in Mexico, White House officials have decided the situation doesn’t rank as an “emergency” under federal rules, officials tell NBC News. The decision scuttles — at least for now — a controversial proposal requiring gun stores in four Southwest border states to report multiple sales of semiautomatic assault rifles and other long guns to authorities.”
“…The Mexican government has been pressing the U.S. government for years to crack down on the flow of high powered weapons to the cartels. It had been hoping for stronger measures, especially after U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton flew to Mexico City last year and promised that the administration was “doing all that we can” to stop the trafficking of U.S. weapons south of the border.
The White House move was praised, however, by the NRA.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41495274/ns/us_news-security/
Pot growers thrive in Northern California
Cash crop now accounts for two-thirds of Mendocino County economy
“Since the 1960s, the so-called Emerald Triangle — Northern California’s Mendocino, Humboldt and Trinity counties — has increasingly become the haven for people looking to make a living growing marijuana.
“This is ground zero for marijuana. Nobody produces any better marijuana than we do right here,” said Dan Offield, a helicopter pilot and agent with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, as he examines the area from a bird’s-eye view.
Perhaps no one knows that better than Ukiah Morrison, a Mendocino pot grower. In most places, he would be considered an outlaw, but not in this neck of the woods.
“This is as natural as growing corn to me,” he said. “This is the lifeblood of the county. And it has been for more than 30 years.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28354324/
The below argument by ex crackman is not an attempt to drag Barbados name in the mud. I know and sympathize with the drug problems Barbados is facing. According to this source, drugs from Columbia are dropped off in Barbados.
Now, how is it possible for drugs to leave Columbia when the U.S. has a well-equipped, well-funded army in Columbia? Why is it that this boat was not intercepted while travelling for hours to Barbados?
While the U.S. government was paying a known Columbian drug dealer to setup Buju they could have easily paid that same Columbian less money to sit on the shores of Columbia to look out for submarines, boats and other drug activities taking place at the source.
No new drugs were found during the DEAs one year surveillance of Buju. They used drugs from government controlled warehouse to send Buju to prison while it is estimated that close to US$400B worth of drugs is floating around on American streets.
The web link for the below comment was found at:
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ex crackman said,
in July 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 am
I used to go on Holiday in the affluent “Sandy Lane” area of Barbados, the last time was in 2001. I used to be a heavy crack cocaine user, and used to buy powder cocaine or ready washed crack (freebase) at the Crocs Bar in Sandy Lane. The availability of the drug was out of this world, one night I even witnessed a cigarette boat dropping off bales of drugs on a beach! The drugs will never stop being dropped off there for further exportation! It was the best quality untouched cocaine I have ever had apart from San Andreas Island, Columbia!
Where there is a demand, there is a supply, the war against drugs is a losing battle, like Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc.
Legalize, Legitimize, Tax it!
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@africanus
Its time you shut up, all your arguments are non sense and everybody can read my posts and research jamaicans and drugs, let alone crime. Its also obvious that your one of the agent provocateurs. Your on every web site with regards to the jamaican stinking crime to try and disuade what people already know to be TRUE anyway.
So go on and waste your breath and i know who you are as well! still arrogant and stupid because massa has his hand thoroughly up your ass and you think you can get away with anything.
Well unfortunately, everfybodies on your asses and your not going to get away with anything anymore, so let it burn.
Its irritating to talk to people who are obviously crimminally INSANE.
Your last set of post do not explain jamaican involvement in crime, drugs and murder now does it? Furthermore as i’ve said the posts i put up were WRITTEN BY JAMIACANS FOR JAMAICANS so bite it stupid.
Non-sense talk and irrelevant articles to explain what? that drugs come from certain areas of the world that we most people already know about -dunce talk.
Be ignorant all your life people can tell your not normal but a very sad case!
@africanus
Its not bajans who started the mud slinging either and remember what the initial allegation was about in the first place, nobody wants the history or lectures by ignorant people who can’t slove their own problems.
Until jamaicans can clean themselves up and stop causin problems everywhereelse their will always be a backlash, and don’t think for one minute people don’t know what happening in their own areas and whose doing it. STOP deluding yourself. Jamaican involvment is clear.
We know the methods used bt the colombians to, extortion, coercion, murder etc the list is endless all the nasty shit that goes along with peddling drugs for ‘THE MAN’.
The are articles that go back to the sixties with jamaicans in drugs and crime but theres no point trying to educate the ignorant it goes right over thei head.
PEOPLE DO THE RESEARCH and then we’ll see whose talking for the sake of talking and wasting cyberspace and time eh!!
@africanus
Jamaicans must clean up their act
print share 0 comments Public Defender Earl Witter (FP)
Sat, April 09, 2011 – 7:08 PM
Jamaican’s Public Defender Earl Witter is calling on Jamaicans to clean up their act.
This has been the caution as more Jamaicans are coming forward complaining in the media that they are being unfairly targetted by Barbadian authorities because of the actions of a few.
Witter urged Jamaicans travelling to foreign shores to be exemplary ambassadors of the country in an effort to salvage the country’s already blemished reputation.
“How Jamaicans can help themselves is by ensuring that when they travel to Barbados and other foreign destinations they do not attempt to take in any contraband and when in those territories they obey the law. That way they will help salvage the bad reputation of Jamaican travellers caused by narco-traffickers and other illegal activities,” Witter said.
Witter’s call comes on the heels of complaints from a Jamaican woman Shanique Myrie, that she was finger raped and subjected to demeaning treatment from officials at the Grantley Adams International Airport before being booted out of the country.
Following Myrie’s revelation, more Jamaicans have come forward with accusations of discrimination against them by officials in Barbados. Among them are three Jamaican males who claim they were beaten, abused, locked up and sent back to Jamaica without explanation.(Jamaica Observer)
GET THE POINT !
@bajan wrote, “Your on every web site with regards to the jamaican stinking crime to try and disuade what people already know to be TRUE anyway.”
bajan, you are maaad. You talk as if, I have something to hide or I need to be afraid.
Just prove that you are not a crazy person, and support your ridiculous claim that I am “on every the web site with regards to the Jamaican stinking crime….”
Why should a “criminally insane” person encourage you to open up your mind to look at the bigger picture?
It is obvious to me that you are afraid even of your own shadow.
You are talking and I don’t need to know who you are. I use what you say here to determine that you are a fool.
If you don’t learn anything else during this exchange, please remember, “It is easier to wring water from iron, than to put knowledge into fools.”
It was a matter of time before Owen Arthur jumped into the Myrie fray to get as much political mileage as possible at the expense of GOB and patriotic Bajans. This failed politican who cursed Mara Thompson for being St. Lucian is now a regionalist again because he thinks saying what the Jamaicans want to hear will redeem him. He says there is is only one Barbados foreign policy but rubbishes Senator Mclean and GOB diplomatic efforts and praises himself for cursing our beleagured immigration officers when he was in office. Over in Jamaica their government and opposition singing from same hym sheet and tarnishing Barbados name as much as possible without facts while listening to only Myrie’s side of the story. Owen you are not helping and Bajans see thru you. Neither you or your party will be getting my or my families votes.
Bajan you are a retard, you could research Jamiaica till yu blue or black in the face. Ppl of the world still know and love us, eat your heart out.
@afric-anus
Oh dear did the article written by an official jamaican for jamaicans, hit a nerve. Although you spewed your guts out with gibberish that nobody cared enough to comment about, the last post said it all – FROM THE HORSES MOUTH as they say.
Afric-anus your back is right up and its telling with stupid insults isn’t?
The international fame jamaica enjoyed when Bob Marley was alive (and worked hard for) seems to have died with him because it PURE DESPERATION DOWN THERE and false allergations will not help i think thats what Earl Witter public defender is trying to tell you besides the drug problems. DON’T PLAY WITH FACTS they are there to educate the unwise, foolish, ignorant, bloody and simple minded, belligerent and finally dunce (brains that don’t work at all)!
Nobody wants to research jamaica but as long as backstabbing, lies and shit fill cyberspace about our beautiful island, YOU WILL GET IT FROM ALL ANGLES!
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL
Jamaica: Public Security Crisis – Facts & figures and Case Studies
21 July 2009
FACTS AND FIGURES
In 2008, there were 1,611 murders in Jamaica, which, while less than the peak of 1,674 in 2005, was an increase of 2.3% on 2007. 628 people were murdered between January and May 2009 compared to 688 in the same period in 2008 (Jamaica Constabulary Force).
Between 2003 and 2008, a total of 398 children have been killed by violent means either due to gang warfare or attacks, abductions, rape and murder. Another 441 have been injured by guns (Inter-American Commission of Human Rights, December 2008).
94 children were murdered in 2008 compared with 70 murdered in 2007 (Jamaican Constabulary Force).
The majority of killings, whether perpetrated by gang members of police officers, affect residents of socially-excluded inner-city areas. Residents of those communities also experience the highest rates of unemployment and the lowest standards in terms of access to water, electricity and security of housing tenure.
Only 4 convictions were reported between 1999 and 2009 out of a total of more than 1,700 reported fatal shootings. No convictions have been reported since 2006 (Bureau of Special Investigations, Jamaica Constabulary Force).
Less than one third of crimes are reported to the police (National Crime Victimization Survey released in January 2009).
CASE STUDIES
Anthony Nelson
On 7 January 2009, police shot dead Anthony Nelson, aged 22, and seriously injured, Ricardo Suckoo, aged 23. The shootings happened at a construction site at Central Village, St. Catherine, where the two men were working. Ricardo Suckoo told Amnesty International what happened.
“It was about 11.30am. We were sitting in the site having lunch when three policemen came from behind us. They asked us what we where doing there. We answered that we were working on the site. After that, they started shooting at us. Anthony was killed on the spot. I received several gunshots: in the hands, in the mouth, at the shoulder. I pretended to be dead but then a policeman kicked at me and realized that I was not dead. I heard one of the policemen saying ‘We have to stop because the carpenter is watching.’ If the carpenter hadn’t been on the roof witnessing the scene, I think they would have shot at me again.
The policemen put me and Anthony’s body in a van and drove towards the hospital. One of my colleagues tried to get in the van with us but he was kicked out. He then followed the police van with his jeep. The police was driving very slowly; probably they wanted to make sure I died before reaching the hospital. Again, I think that they could have shot at me if the jeep was not following.”
According to the police report, “a team of police was on special operation in the Central Village area when three men were seen acting in a suspicious manner. When accosted, the men opened fire at the lawmen, who took evasive action and returned the fire. Two men were injured and the other escaped. A gun was taken from the men.”
Ricardo Suckoo was hospitalized for two weeks following the shooting. He was then discharged and transferred to the Bridgeport police station. He remained in custody for a week, during which time his family had to provide care as he had not fully recovered from his injuries. He was charged with shooting with intent and released on bail. At the time of writing, he was still receiving medical treatment for his injuries including physiotherapy sessions, although the cost was sometimes prohibitive.
Investigations into the death of Anthony Nelson by the Bureau of Special Investigations and by the Police Public Complaints Authority have not concluded. At the time of writing, more than six months after the shootings, forensic reports had yet to be completed. Ricardo Suckoo does not know why police shot at them. Anthony Nelson’s mother told Amnesty International “I know my son is innocent, so let me hope justice will be made.”
Randall Richards
Eighteen-year-old Randall Richards was shot dead by police officers in his home in Kelliman Terrace, Waltham Park Road, Kingston, on 24 June 2008. His parents witnessed the shooting.
His mother told Amnesty International that several police officers knocked at the door of their house at about 4.30am. She opened the door and the officers came in and started to search the house. Police entered a room where two of Randall Richards’ friends were spending the night. She heard the men crying in the room and then gunshots.
The police came out of the room carrying the bodies of the two men and put them in a van parked outside the house. Randall Richards was on the veranda. The police came back into the house and saw him crying. His mother saw him standing in front of the policemen with his hands open in the air. She heard him cry out to her, “Mummy, mummy!” and one of the officers replied “Shut up, pussy!”. She said another officer then shot at her son and he fell to the floor. The police took his body to the van and drove away. According to the post-mortem, Randall Richards died from multiple gunshot wounds.
According to press reports, the police were carrying out an operation to arrest a man wanted for murder.
An investigation into the death of Randall Richards was opened by the Bureau of Special Investigations. At the time of writing, more than a year after his death, police statements had yet to be taken and forensic reports had not been completed.
St. Catherine communities
On 7 and 8 December 2008, Jamaican television broadcast video footage showing residents of the St. Catherine communities of Gravel Heights and Tredegar Park fleeing their homes and loading their furniture and other belongings onto moving vehicles. Around 200 residents had been given an ultimatum by armed gang members. According to media reports, they were told to leave their homes or they would be killed. Video footage showed police officers watching the residents flee, but not attempting to intervene. It is not clear what triggered the ultimatum. Some local commentators alleged that the threats were part of a battle between two rival gangs for political control of the communities. According to others, the ultimatums were linked to attempts at extortion.
It was not until some time after these events that the authorities took steps to enable some residents to return to their homes. When Amnesty International visited Gravel Heights and Tredegar Park at the end of February 2009, soldiers were guarding the communities and there were people living in some of the houses. Many people had returned after the deployment of troops in early January, but others had chosen not to because they feared reprisals. “Those who didn’t want to leave the house had their houses burnt. At least 18 houses were burnt” one resident told Amnesty International. By mid-March, most remaining residents had returned to their homes. Many found their homes vandalized.
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@bajan, you are rude, but I will forgive you and take your insults as signs of your mentally deranged state. I like you because you are predicable and you keep coming back for more.
I did write a response to your copy and paste piece from “Jamaicans must clean up their act.” but thought that you are a waste of time and you either don’t see that you are posting ammunitions to justify how ignorant you are or you are just plain stupid.
You have spent the past week painting a very bad picture of Jamaica. At no time did you even considered that there may be Jamaicans who are honest, yet you cut and paste a story directly from a Jamaica website and somehow believe that this will support your warped mind. At no time did you make the connection between the Jamaican author of that story and the 13 Jamaican comments, at the bottom of that story, in support of the public defender’s story. 12 of the 13 comments were made by Jamaicans and only one of those comments was negative towards Barbados.
What you have shown by that piece confirms that you have no idea about Jamaica and Jamaicans.
The fact the you keep praising yourself and searching the internet to know who I am, are all signs that you are just what I psychoanalysis you to be; a lying, crazy, stalking, propagandist, narcissist, bigot.
@africanus
Its you who is lazy,crazy and all other unmentionables, you have been hurling insults when i give you facts -too bad.
I’m just letting people know where to look for important information on the problems jamaica is facing -Truth, not lies and allergations.
I have not spent the last week painting anything negative about jamaica that isn’t already there -bite it
Just do what Earl witter says and CLEAN UP YOUR ACT, it stinks like your blogs.
Your attacks are completely unfounded, like ‘i keep praising myself’ nobody reading my posts will have ever said that so that proves your full of shit.
PLUS i consider everybody whose innocent in both islands and that why when stories like the myrie case get blown out of proportion, we have insulting idiots like you blogging rubbish about non-sense and attacking without any sense or reason. FACTS deal with it.
The facts are there for people to read and decide for themselves, now i can leave you to your garbelled crap.
The innocent will always suffer for the guilty eh!
This morning I read Jamaica’Observer account of the convicted drug runner’s rape at the hands of Barbadian policeman. We dont know if there is a shred of truth in what she said but the Observer, the Jamaica government and apparently all Jamaicans believe every word of this convicted drug smuggler. If what she says is true and proves to be so in a court of law then the offending police should be lost away in jail for ever like the low life who raped the Heath woman .If she is lying which is quite possible will the Jamaicans apologise? Dont count on it the same applies to Myrie a suspected prostitute.My concern now is for the safety of Bajans visiting or living in Jamaica. They should make plans to leave now. Jamaicans reputation for revenge and violence is well earned the world over. Jamaicans have convicted the entire Barbados population on hearsay from a convicted drug mule and a suspected prostitute and dey nah wan hear no back chat. Get out of Dodge my people.
In case you missed this one, shown below for your ease of reference, please support your “facts” with evidences.
If you fail to do that, then, I have proven my point that you are nothing but a lying, crazy, stalking, propagandist, narcissistic, bigot, and I have no more time to waste with you.
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@bajan wrote, “Your on every web site with regards to the jamaican stinking crime to try and disuade what people already know to be TRUE anyway.”
bajan, you are maaad. You talk as if, I have something to hide or I need to be afraid.
Just prove that you are not a crazy person, and support your ridiculous claim that I am “on every the web site with regards to the Jamaican stinking crime….”
It is obvious to me that you are afraid even of your own shadow.
You are talking and I don’t need to know who you are. I use what you say here to determine that you are a fool.
@second man, The Jamaica Observer quotes the woman verbatim; therefore the views expressed are not those of the paper.
These are the first 4 paragraphs of that story and the weblink where you can read more.
THE 27-year-old Jamaican woman who has accused officers of the Royal Barbados Police Force of rape and sexual assault has given a graphic and horrific account of the treatment she said was meted out to her after she was jailed in that country two months ago for drug smuggling.
The Sunday Observer obtained a copy of her signed statement, in which the woman, whose name we have been asked not to reveal, described the men she accused of the crime.
According to the woman, who lives in Spanish Town, she arrived at the Grantley Adams International Airport in Barbados on a Caribbean Airlines flight from Jamaica on Saturday, February 26. She cleared immigration, but was stopped by customs officials who searched her bag and found approximately two kilos of ganja hidden in a secret compartment.
She was strip-searched and taken to the Oistins Police Station where officers took a statement from her, but denied her the opportunity to make a phone call. They also denied her the opportunity to seek legal counsel, she said, and mocked her by saying that no lawyer would take her case because she had no money.
Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Jailed-and-raped-in-Barbados#ixzz1J9H68fNB
Britain’s dumbest burglar EXCLUSIVE by ANTHONY FRANCE
Published: Today
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BRITAIN’S thickest burglar has been jailed for six years – after leaving his passport, mobile and keys at a raid.
Dozy Kenneth Morgan’s abandoned backpack also contained his mugshot on a prison ID card, his birth certificate and a tenancy agreement with his signature.
Morgan, 48, was caught red-handed by the victim who returned home at 11.45am. The career crook fled through a kitchen window but left his possessions behind in Acton, West London.
An investigation by giggling police lasted seconds. When Morgan was arrested, he claimed the backpack was stolen and planted at the scene by another burglar.
Judge Simon Oliver called the defence “preposterous” at London’s Isleworth Crown Court last week.
A jury took an hour to convict him before it emerged he had 23 burglary convictions dating back 25 years. A source said: “He has got to be the UK’s dumbest crook.”
Morgan, of West London, had been out of jail for just three weeks before the burglary.
a.france@the-sun.co.uk
And there’s a picture of this ugly jamaican!
Not to mention the jamaican serial rapist of OLD WOMEN they caught recently in BRITAIN, please research at your leisure. Whole heap of freaks coming out of jamaica.
The upsurge in murders, rapes, gang violence and armed robberies have bludgeoned the flattering perception of the Caribbean as a “paradise” for tourists, and will prove quite challenging for the recently announced new initiative of the Caribbean Tourism Organisation (CTO) to market the region as a “one Caribbean” brand.
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While popular tourism destinations like Barbados, The Bahamas and St Lucia, were not part of the study on the implications of the policy of criminal deportation being pursued by the USA, UK and Canada, subsequent data have established that the presence of criminal deportees in those countries, (currently totalling approximately 900 in the case of Barbados), have contributed to a worsening of murder rate and violent criminality.
Between 1990 and 2005, a total of 33, 268 persons were deported to Jamaica as the country of their origin, after serving prison terms for various offences. Approximately 3,000 were sent back to Trinidad and Tobago. For the period 2000 to 2005 deportees to Guyana numbered 932 and 283 for Antigua and Barbuda.
SHARING BLAME
By identifying the USA and UK as countries that should “share the blame” for the crime epidemic afflicting Caricom states, like his own, because of their policy on criminal deportees, the prime minister of Antigua and Barbuda, Baldwin Spencer, current chairman of the 15-member Community, may have indirectly revived interest in the Beyond Boundaries study on this very challenging regionwide problem.
eye opener
The upsurge in murders, rapes, gang violence and armed robberies have bludgeoned the flattering perception of the Caribbean as a “paradise” for tourists, and will prove quite challenging for the recently announced new initiative of the Caribbean Tourism Organisation (CTO) to market the region as a “one Caribbean” brand.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
While popular tourism destinations like Barbados, The Bahamas and St Lucia, were not part of the study on the implications of the policy of criminal deportation being pursued by the USA, UK and Canada, subsequent data have established that the presence of criminal deportees in those countries, (currently totalling approximately 900 in the case of Barbados), have contributed to a worsening of murder rate and violent criminality.
Between 1990 and 2005, a total of 33, 268 persons were deported to Jamaica as the country of their origin, after serving prison terms for various offences. Approximately 3,000 were sent back to Trinidad and Tobago. For the period 2000 to 2005 deportees to Guyana numbered 932 and 283 for Antigua and Barbuda.
SHARING BLAME
By identifying the USA and UK as countries that should “share the blame” for the crime epidemic afflicting Caricom states, like his own, because of their policy on criminal deportees, the prime minister of Antigua and Barbuda, Baldwin Spencer, current chairman of the 15-member Community, may have indirectly revived interest in the Beyond Boundaries study on this very challenging regionwide problem.
i have being reading these comments presented by bajans and i jus have to laugh u guys r just jealous, thats all u got blah blah, lol only crime u r talking abt right i feel sorry for u guys, thank s that u r only blogging these comments because no one will want u to talk to them with that annoying accent and talk abt high literacy rate talk abt u guys learning to speak standard english in a more civilized way. Jamaica to the flipping world dont hate jamaica because she is blessed, continue to blog as long as u dont open ur mouth an talk. unbehalf of the jamaican people we r not hearing u so its ok.
I have never seen this level of immaturityin years from what I believe are intelligent adults. These exhanages are very evident slavery has been very destructive. For a bunch of people who have been “cut” from the same cloth I find it difficult we are allowing nationalism to reign.
OH SHAME, has someone devleoped a wedgy, can,t deal with facts? the good people of jamaica would like the criminal asswipes blogging rubbish to actually shut up because your embarrassing.
@tyrone smith, we may have been cut from the same cloth but its a pity that people like anonomous are illiterate-can’t deal with problems in home country!. walking talking destruction everywhere they go and getting a bad reputation for it! and bad as in stinking rotton…
here hol’dis
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Wuh loss Bajan you killing the Jamaicans with fact and fiction you got 89 and he posse in a tizzy.
The final solution would be to find the likes of 89 and have a friendly chat the Bajan accent would give them heart attacks lol Conversing with a Jamaican girl in Brooklyn last week did not understand a word she say but 89 got the balls to attack Bajan accent.
Keep the fact and fiction flowing Bajan you killing them with word.
Thank god for rihanna cause no one would no that their is a country name barbados that exist in this world, rihanna must be thankful that she lost that accent cause trust me its a painful accent and u guys stop pretending to be jamaican u jealous people!
@89
Don’t forget marvin gaye and diana ross -also bajan, they were kicking ass when the whole of jamaica was still asleep.
Umbrella girl strikes back
Rihanna and beyonce’
She’s been vilified in her native Barbados and by US media, and was seriously assaulted by her ex-boyfriend Chris Brown, but the Bajan Beyoncé, who performs in Ireland in a week, is still on top, writes BRIAN BOYD
You people are ridiculous. Arguing over which country have who or what. Is it that you have short attention spans? What was the issue again? Ohhhh yes, whether or not a woman was assualted in a Barbados airport. With all the crap above I almost forgot.
@ One Jamaican
Well said! I thought that it was just me who thought that. Things are getting too personal here. If the government cannot do it, maybe we should take it upon ourselves to exercise some tact and diplomacy.
To all you Jamaicans,Ms Myrie has been invited to Bdos, stay at a Posh West Coast Hotel,ALL EXPENCES PAID,a body guard( a legal Jamaican,of course) at her disposal everywhere she goes,a daily allowance if needed,all in an attempt to get her to identify the person who finger raped her.,also her Lawyer(s),were asked to accompany her on ALL occasions .WHAT DOES SHE DO ?Ms.Myrie,WE ARE AWAITING YOU !I am sure that over a thousand Bajans are willing to dig into their pockets to facilitate those moves,just to get to the bottom of the allegations.Come over ,we need to know if it was true,or if was a fabrication.Identify the culprit!She WILL be dismissed ,if it is true,I can guarantee that ! 95% of Bajans think she is lying outright,the other 5%,prefer to wait until they hear the 3 sides of the story.All of Jamaica believed her.
Make fun of Jamaicans all you want – but when you live in foreign and someone interferes with you (i.e., calls you The “N” word) the first person who has got your back is a Jamaican.
I don’t think Barbadians needs to pay
one cent for first class accommodations or compensation shanique myrie & her lying entourage to return to Barbados!!!!!!!
If shanique myrie returns to Barbados to describe the people that
she has accused of raping her, She should be booked to return back to
Jamaica ASAP and put right on the next flight out! then
She should be barred from returning to Barbados for a lifetime.
There are many rape allegations flying around daily , but
this Should not become open season for Jamaican or Guyanese
whores to gain free entry or the royal treatment in Barbados at our expense! Kick them all out of Barbados.
I hope they are still securing our borders
tighter than ever now, as the illegal will still
try to sneak into Barbados with full force now,
that they are really hoping that the allegation will make
human trafficking more lenient for them to get past customs.
Most of all! I’d like to see an interview with the sick woman who shanique myrie was supposed to be visiting in Barbados, the one
who could not meet or pick her up from the airport. Why was that story not expanded on or done in a local interview yet???
@heather
GOOD POINT! the whole thing is suspect and why does she want certain conditions to return and identify her assailant? and why the media circus and hype over something that happens evrywhere else, that is usually handled with diplomacy and order.
criminal gangs who are controlled (by rich fools) allow drugs mules and give them alibi and top lawyer when they’re ready, thats why i said people complaining about barbados hospitality and conditons should leave and never return, barbados need to tighten up. especailly when there are sudden unexplained murders and allergations of drugs coming directly into barbados – since when!
Read the CSME newspaper today and see whose shit stirring and setting things up. The first point of attack is to TALK WE ISLAND DOWN, allow the trash and garbage mongers in and then its all down hill from there. You can tell from certain bloggers that they don’t sound right in their head, no matter what facts you put in front of them they want to carry on with some shit that nobody cares about anymore. It shows an unwillingness to improve their own situation really- really dumb.
When it comes to crime in barbados, we need to start discerning whose non-national!
how does identifying who she claimed rape her prove that she is being truthful?
there isnt doubt that she came here and encountered customs, obviously she interacted with them. i cud meet any of yall now and tomorrow claim you assault me. 3 weeks later i pointing you out too, does it mean that u rape me?
can someone show me what pointing out a customs officer prove?
ok i thought about it , bringing her would not prove anything. but it would allow someone to be formally charged and allowing her to have her day in court. sadly to say jamaicans (and some bajans) believe that as long as you are charged with an offence that you commited the offence, i dont think they understand the judicial processes
@atlanta
The judicial process demands proof – not hear say. Ms Myrie needs to identify her alledged abuses so that charges can be brought -if any. The judicail process requires the burden of proof. It should have been obvious to a fool that she needs to prove all she said, nobody is going to go on just what she said or hearsay, let alone media circus hype and pressure from certain bloggers or polls. Proof, evidence and facts. Thats what you need to judge any case and nothing else. Thats as clear as its going to get!
Just read and see facts
The Fund for Peace – JamaicaJamaica is ranked the 96th most corrupt country out of 180 countries by Transparency … The Jamaican police are notorious for their human rights abuses and …
http://www.fundforpeace.org/web/index.php?option…id... – Cached – Similar
wrong time on blogs everybody should check theirs!
@ bajan u seem to be finding all the bad crime stuff about jamaica that all u got lol i feel sorry for u poor thing! oh my i dont even have time to right the positives abt jamaica lol badmind people drop a sleep. Its now fact that it is true that barbados have been riging and cheating on these exam because they r mark there the high literacy rate is fake because u guys have been suffering from it dont u see u r deam literate but yet u expose lack of knowledge
Stop been so badmind get ur own swag
Stop been so grudgeful towards jamaica
You envy jamaica because so much is going on for that blessed country.
Jamaica has a 44% decrease in crime this year jesus continue to bless and guide this country from these people who is happy abt it because they want to satisfy their hatred for jamaica. Crime is not a jamaican problem the world is having its fair share but god since these people are happy to see jamaica under attack from satan, (see how they r rejoicing) they must no that satan does not affect jamaicans alone, bajans continue to rejoice remember what goes around comes around. Peace!!!!!
Jamaica has a 44% decrease in crime this year jesus continue to bless and guide this country from these people who is happy abt it because they want to satisfy their hatred for jamaica. Crime is not a jamaican problem the world is having its fair share but god since these people are happy to see jamaica under attack from satan, (see how they r rejoicing) they must no that satan does not affect jamaicans alone, bajans continue to rejoice remember what goes around comes around. Peace!!!!!
@ bajan dont worry rejoice u poor thing wait until the bad boy crime hits ur door, celebrate bajan i never no that someone can celebrate crime and voilence.
hi joan, if you were following the discussion up until now u may realise why bajan is doing what he is doing. but what is this talk about bajans cheating and rigging exams?
show me the “facts” that you speak of
@joan et al
JUST LAST YEAR, theres your proof
Jamaica Crime Statistics for the Year 2010: Crime Totals
Larcenies 1,650
Shootings 3,700
Break-Ins 500
Murders 1,700
Rapes 1,650
Robberies 3,000
Total Crimes 39188
Source: 2010 OSAC Crime and Safety report
Actually the part about white tourists not being searched is ***incorrect***. Anyone see that episode of the show Locked Up Abroad with the women from Britain???
Atlanta_ what you said is very true!
Deported/Rejected People
who have hurt pride could travel here to point
the fingers at random Bajans all day and tell
really big lies to harm careers. It don’t mean a thing.
because it’s It’s not necessarily the truth!
Children do it all the time, to lay blame on
rivals & innocent children! Finger pointing, it’s an outdated
unreliable practice, like using ouija boards or dowsing rods.
I’d like all of the accusers & the accused take polygraphs!
& I’d like to hear from myrie’s femail friend
who lives here in Barbados, it’s strange that
We have not heard from her at all?
How Many people really invite friends from
abroad then stand them up at the airport???
Enough of the whistling in the dark with the
finger pointing and the “he said she said nonsense”
that don’t really prove a thing!
These are serious alegations the Jamaicans are
throwing around that can destroy someone’s career! Finger
pointing isn’t reliable, we live in high
tech world_ Lie Detector Tests are the way to go!
Hello all you happy jamaicans,
you once made beautiful music, what happened? is everyone so miserable and poor of heart that you have to piss pon everybody? We need you all to fix up, those figures speak for themselves! i can repeat them as much as you want. no point beating your chest when theres njothing to be proud about anymore.
The whole thing about it is that, you have artists and athletes and everybody thought you were doing very well that you might share, instead now we find just hate. If you read ALL the comments by you jamaicans they’re just insults and boasting – about what, we don’t understand in TRUE light of things happening down there and where ever your people are -bad mind and grudgeful are diffinately your trates and it shows and other people know.
I just feel it for the innocent children and good people in jamaica who really made jamaica what it was ‘de ols dem’ YES the ones who knew what it is to live , share, get along, move along. progress, not DEATH and all that goes with killing off peoples spirit and goodwill.
Make peace wid you brers and sistren because your killing off you one anuda like fly down there. I have a video to show and shock you too!
Locked Up Abroad, Barbados.
I’m surprised to see St. Maarten just slapped visa restrictions on Jamaicans.
Check the headline too nuh… “THE TINY Dutch dependency of St Maarten has become the **latest regional state to impose visa requirements for Jamaicans.**”
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20110414/lead/lead6.html
Thank goodness the Barbados passport is still good almost everywhere eh?
(quote)
Duncan did not provide details of what sparked the decision, but reports suggest that it was based on the increasing number of Jamaicans overstaying their time in the country.
The reports further claimed that officials in the country were concerned about a growing crime problem.
[ . . . ]
“The Cayman Islands and the Dominican Republic are the other regional states which have imposed visa requirements for Jamaicans.”
(end quote)
Wait, wasn’t Cayman Island once attached to Jamaica? 😮
truth is truth
Jamaica Crime Risk Advisory for TouristsJamaican Caves Organization Crime Risk Advisory for Jamaica.
http://www.jamaicancaves.org/jamaica-crime.htm –
please read all
@ bajans what u think tourist is goin to come to barbados instead after u blog this advisory lol u r really badmind… continue to celebrate jamaicas crime problem please remember that bardados is having serious issues with being a major drug transit country in the caribbean dont worry mr bajan rejoice at jamaicas crime situation bcause thats where u get satisfaction u will soon acknowledge that crime is not for jamaicans only but its a world wide problem
bfore this incident i have never heard a jamaican in media or anywhere hear them say anything bad abt barbados, so often overseas jamaicans defend bajans but after all this time some of u where friend enemies.
I ask my grandmother u ever hear a jamaican say something bad abt barbados her response was NO, you ever hear of jamaicans hurting bajans NO
the statistic shows that 97% of the crime that was committed in barbados were committed by them not foreigners.
The question remains why do some bajans hate other caribbean nationals so much cause i get to understand that barbados have being hurting guyanese, trinidadians an other countries too WHY.
jamaica has a 44% decrease in crime this year PRAY for the country dont rejoice and celebrate it!
thats all you guys can talk abt lol u poor thing, dont you think that any jamaican can go on the internet and copy crime thats were committed in barbados include murders and rape, drugs and travel risk advisory am looking at one now and blog them too but we no what we have suffered over the years so we dont celebrate crime and voilence….
for some reason u guys fall in love with crimes that were committed in jamaica thats kinda sick.
everyone saw what took place in haiti with regard to the earthquake, i heard a man from another country say that they deserve it bcause of there religious practices you r behaving like that man isnt that disgusting.
continue to hate jamaica because u dont run this world god run this world go feed on this usain bolt world records its on youtube or you might get pissed off because he is a jamaican and u r badmind.
@bajans
beautiful music we once made lmao i guess we once produce good athletes too u r really a badmind fellow and yes all is well with jamaica and we r smiling its pretty obvious that u dont no jamaica as everyone in the world does.
if is one thing u must not boast abt and rejoice at is crime bcause u dont no when its goin to happen to u, a tourist can go to jamaica an nothin happen and she or he could go to barbados and something happen u jus dont no.
it really seems like u r celebrating at jamaicas crime situation and thats really sick and disgusting am pretty sure u guys rejoice when there r natural disasters too.
jamaica is too bless so continue with ur celebration.
r these people really celebrating crime and voilence i cant beleive this no sah a which part dem mad people yah come from, i dont have time to go and the internet to dig up crime committed dont u think the internet is loaded with information of crimes committed in the country of barbarians. wow i guess these people were celebrating when hurricane evan struck jamaica a couple years ago.
@joan
no offense but it seems like you live under a rock.
you wrote
bfore this incident i have never heard a jamaican in media or anywhere hear them say anything bad abt barbados, so often overseas jamaicans defend bajans but after all this time some of u where friend enemies.
FALSE
I ask my grandmother u ever hear a jamaican say something bad abt barbados her response was NO,
FALSE
thats all you guys can talk abt lol u poor thing, dont you think that any jamaican can go on the internet and copy crime thats were committed in barbados include murders and rape, drugs and travel risk advisory am looking at one now and blog them too but we no what we have suffered over the years so we dont celebrate crime and voilence….
this all started becuz of your ppl trying to make it a point to seek out negative things about us to cement your claim. it kills me that you ppl cry innocent and are the chief perpatrators in launching a vicous attack on barbadians. yall tried to attack us using a method that we are all to good at doing RESEARCH AND ACADEMICS. then when it backfired then you go back and tell your crew how bajans bad talking yall?
i find that most of you online are extremely deceitful i wouldnt be surprised if i go on a jamaican blog and see me quoting the following:
“no offense but it seems like jamaicans live under a rock. we are all to good at doing RESEARCH AND ACADEMICS. i find that most of you jamaicans online are extremely deceitful”
wunna attack from our ministers back down to rihanna who has done nothing to you and becuz we retort in kind the hate that yall spew we are celebrating crime?
dont worry crime is not a jamaican problem only i cant beleive this u guys r sick minded people and dont worry ur passports r ok for now so dont bragg about ur passport can take u anywhere continue to rejoice at these visa restrictions on jamaica because ur time is coming u people r mentally unstable and its cause for ur badmind thinking jamaica is all good why r u worring abt us a straight happiness in jamaica my youth we nice spring break ago hard right now, a shell wi a shell dung di place jamaica have no problem a wah dis man we good.
@jamerican
Barbabos is not a main transport hub for drugs, that was printed in that stupid CSME newspaper recently, but there are some [people who are non nationals who are trying to makew it so -tourist included.
There are gangs who travel arond in packs like hyena disturbing everybodies peace for a little profit, selling drugs for the CIA/IRA mafia, those people start wars, leave countries impoverished and then flood them with guns and drugs and watch while people kill each other.
Its a hopeless situation once it gets started and i hope bajans are weary of fri-enemy, those pretending to friends but stiring you towards drugs and some stinking badminded men -who just want to get in your knickers first, if that fails they want to drug you.
I think all bajans should read the travel advisory i posted up because you will aleast be aware of how certain people work at destroying other peoples hardwork. It took a hundred years to build the pyraminds in eygpt but a fool can tear it down in two seconds without ever knowing its secrets!
It seems to me that Some jamaicans want to ignore the facts about themselves in order to wage some kind of stupid war, that they’re not having much luck with. There’s a hell of a lot of information on the crimes that jamaicans are commiting in alot of countries, if you don’t like it thats too bad. its good that you have a 44% reduction but its still nothing on the total and it needs to come down significantly. THATS why there are visa restictions on jamaicans. Jamaican artist and athletes should have done more to help the island by now, other than its profile
Bajans will not take any bullshit without a fight, we won’t tolerate crap around us or about us. You can point to any number of countries that have crime too, and corrupt police and airport officials etc but at the end of the day this Myrie case was hyped up by the jamaican press and has certain Jamaicans insulting bajans (you can look at all the blogs to see where it even started)
You can’t come onto us all bullish, it won’t wash. neither will your sorry attempts to drag other islands into this stupi thing.
What i do see is an attempt to break down ours stringent security and borders to allow undesirables to come into our island and start the same shit they have on theirs – and thats the same reason they can’t or won’t stay in jamaica. Do you know hamy jamaicans go to England, America and Cananda fleeing persecution?
Lets face it, the situation stinks down there and other people know on the other islands too – thats why the visa restrictions. This Myrie case will only make Barbados tighten its borders even more anyhow! Then it should be obvious how the drugs and guns get in, in the first place – as if poor black people can even afford those things!!!
Isn’t it funny how alot of jamaicans stood behind ‘christopher dudus’ as well, but yet you have the cheek to call bajans names.
I REALLY DON’T THINK SO!
no one is celebrating crime or bragging. but barbados needs to remain vigilant of the ill of society from creeping in. unfortunately it already has. we are no saints or can we claim to not have some unstable minded ppl but its hard enuff fighting off the criminal elements of barbados to be importing such criminal elements. example the zr culture needs to be cutailed, this uncivilised mistreatment of our foreign nationals also have to stop. we need to be vigilant of or borders but yet act professional. now im not saying what ms myrie or the spanish town lady said is true or false im speaking generally. jamaicans are on the attack and we are expected to be the passive docile pompous blow hards that they heard we were. the most shocking thing to jamaicans are that we are not just sitting and taking these insults.
@oh come on
Thats what i’m talking about, they calls us names and didn’t expect us to hit back, it wasn’t even of supposed to have gone in that direction – let alone to drag other countries into it. I thought it would have been a sensible discussion of dos and donts or airport protocols atc, but no cartain people wanted a catfight and it got silly.
I hope it can forward from here progressively, but we won’t stand for insults and trash talk -simple.
@oh come on
u and i no where these comments r coming from u guys were describing and insulting jamaican women u forget and rejoicing and celebrating jamaicas crime problem, youth dont u think jamaicans r aware of the crime situation, u need to stop going around treating people like animals that what u need to do and for u to be goin around acting like barbados is a first world country is kinda misleading because barbados is no where near that category. So do what u do best continue to celebrate jamaicas crime problem because thats what u r good for u sick minded individuals.
@ bajans
the readers can testify so u can continue with ur cover up foolishness about name calling because the evidents is there and u r a women hater what u should do is tell a jamaican woman to her face, u have no respect for women, and u enjoy and glad to celebrate crime and voilence the evidents is there u women hater, and u r also a caribbean people hater u dont like nobody in the caribbean except for yourself and thats pretty sad no one is listening to you because ur acting as if jamaica is ur problem but yet its obvious that you treat guyanese and other caribbean national like mongrel dogs, everyone in the caribbean no abt ur history.
what war, and what is false i have never heard a jamaican in media or anywhere in jamaica say anything bad abt barbados, u r a bunch of friend enemies and crime lobiyist continue to rejoice.
i guess u were having a war with trinidad and guyana too so is that war lol u people r a bunch of snobs and u seem to like to show off over foolishness. get this barbados is not better than any other country in the caribbean.
u aint fooling nobody talk abt we trash talking rihanna snobs the world can see how u describe jamaican women dont be lying u aint fooling nobody but urself who r a portrat of hating, what they say abt rihanna is something good and u no that.
continue to rejoice over these visa restrictions on jamaica
contnue to celebrate the crime situation
continue to call and disrespect jamaican women (whores), u women hater, u stereotyping snobs
jamaica has a 44% reduction in crime and let me tell u a good over evil, we have been through it and god is going to take us out of it, so unuh gwan with unuh celebration. jamaica has not and have ever done you wrong u bunch of friendenemies.
u continue to insult bajans in general and still claim you dont
what a silly woman you are.
show me where a bajan said jamaican women are whores in a conversation that wasnt a tit for tat with jamaicans insulting us or our women.
the fact remains that during your ppl’s outrage on these issues, before you focus on the issue at hand and the authorities who were responsible you insult an entire country’s ppl. and when the ppl retaliate you act all shocked and shit. alot of you are very conniving and deceitful. i see you trying to put words in our mouths in these blogs so u can go back with your deceit and lies and say we bad mouthing jamaicans.
beginning and come down and see what your jamaican bretheren spew daily about us and see where our retorts came and you will see why certain facts about your country were digged up and why certain comments were made.
. start at post 1
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@atlanta
really now bajans have said several times on these blogs deaming jamaican women as whores so u gullang bout u business u little snob, jamaica have nt done u guys no wrong so u cwan gwan run off u mouth. u r the conniving and deceitful one u little badmind fellow dont worry continue with ur bragging all now u cwan touch a button, if u r d lawyer unuh gwan talk!
u r stereotyping snob gwey, the readers are not fool so u cwan tan deh a run off u mouth, jamaican women r not scared of u recognize, so gwan u r a little women hater.
julie is not silly u stereotyping snob, i read it for myself , dessilines, micheal and bajan is a set of barbarian stereotyping snobs, yes if u r talking as if all jamaican women r whores we must retaliate, if u r claiming that jamaican women r only coming to barbados to prostitute it must be that they r getting good business in ur country and it must b that bajan women r nt satisfying their men stereotyper the world can read
y is it that u guys r talkin so much abt jamaican crime problem snob we have been through it we dont need snob and lobiyist like u to remind us and let me tell u a good over evil jamaica has a 44% decrease in crime i have to remind u, a god a use this country to make it a better one member that.
streotyper before u look at the issue at hand all u people did was to stereotype and have the most horrible things to talk abt her u were the ones who jump to conclusion what the hell u guys no abt us jamaican women for you to be sterotyping snob go drop a sleep.
a mi fi tell u, easy uself youth, marcus garvey did alot for the caribbean so all anuh ungrateful snobs can continue to pick on jamaicans bcause a jamaicans put the caribbean out their for the world to see it.
jamaica will surpass this dont worry a nuff people a pray for us a jah a guide we. all a unuh badmind and grudgeful thats y u r attacking this wonderful country.
by the help of the father the crime is going to 0 member that so unuh gwan rejoice u think crime is for jamaica alone careful of what u celebrate and wish for people bcause trust it can back fire pah unuh badmind self.
jamaica land we love member jamaica have never done u wrong member that a good over evil. Jah continue to bless this country named jam dung.
Africanus,Bajan,Watching Closely,Baje Gem,June,Dessalines,J.Payne,read your comments with interest;but the most profound quote in this ‘war of words’ come from Carol Boeth when she says, ” I wish you all knew yourself, if you did know yourself. Then and only then would you know she is also your “BLACK” sister too.”
Anonomous,there is a difference between Barbudans and Barbadians , as referred to in the Lester Bird speech.Barbados or Barbadians are mentioned nowhere in the post.
comprehension skills are obviously lacking dalia. pray tell how is saying that alot of jamaican women come here to whore equal to all jamaican women are whores? i convinced some of you just pick out words in a sentence and create new sentences.
here we go, more wood for the fire
whore, dogs, cats, stink.
now someone shud accuse me of calling jamaican women stinking whores that eat cats. its silly really.
I posted the Locked Up Abroad thing because it was stated above that Caucasian tourists would never be subjected to scrutiny at Barbados’ airport. But as you can see, that isn’t true! Barbados’ airport I believe probably looks for people who act suspicious regardless of race. The girl above (in Locked Up Abroad), jf you saw the episode you would have noted she was trying to smuggle cocaine.
I have been checking this thread on a daily basis,and have learned a lot and laughed a lot.ISIS ,you made me laugh with your,’the Us kicked the rastas ass ,and that the mad slaves from the other islands were sent to Jamaica.’
It seems as though the posters have the ferocity with which Bajans can defend their island. There is no indication of they being ,”docile” here.That myth has been put to the test and found to be just that.
This is an interesting read.perspective from jamaicans.com
http://www.jamaicans.com/articles/primecomments/jamaicacriminalentities.shtml
@jaysun
jamaicans online regularly use jamaican patios with english and abbreviate dem wen riting its obvious that u r also a bajan snob lol, just for u to no if ur goin to stereotype and say am illiterate cause i see bajans already doin that. what i jus rote i cant spell rite? lol oh boy another snob, fi reals u r goin to judge that some1 lack comprehension skills wen bloggin what can u teach her abt comprehension another snob ur goin to question her literacy rite and mine too lol… typical bajan always questioning people literary skills aaah bwwoiee
pray tell how is saying that alot of jamaican women come here to whore equal to all jamaican women are whores? what r u saying here dnt understand its seems to me that u guys r always finding faults with ur black brothers and sisters u just feel that ur super literate so they always lack some type of literacy skills lol i am convinced and i think that the world no it that some bajan are snobs
some of u continue to b in denial continue celebrate all the bad things abt jamaica bcause we now no that u r in love with the negatives abt jamaica cause thats the only way u get satisfaction jamaica is too bless to be stress.
The carifta games was exciting talk about that, the caribbean is bless with talented athletes, whether bfp means well the title of this article is sickening regardless of what the article said that headline is disrepectful to jamaican women regardless of it content. If it was not for the headline of this rubbish it would not have gone this far cause when i came upon on it, i could not beleive Jamaican women welcome in Barbados if they submit to a finger up their vagina? am not even paying any attention to the question sign but i read the blog an u people must understand why jamaicans r retaliating on this article
it is not rite for u to stereotype and say that all jamaican women r comin to to barbados to do is prostitute, bajan and dessalines for example and y is it that u guys r expounding on the crime situation in jamaica arent there criminals in barbados.
and its the context of the blogs y jamaican will say ur deaming them as prostitutes and the context of how u r putting forward jamaicas crime it will come off as if ur happy u get something bad abt jamaica yeah rite cause u think ur good at sports and ur music is international, the world is in love with the jamaican language, ur women is beautiful, jamaica is famous, how comes they have a good tourism sector with that high crime rate, y is it that jamaicans seem to be so happy and the world c it thats y they even voted them the thirld coolest country in the world, how comes they r so happy ha!! with a crime rate like that. now look at that even the united states UN ambassador have jamaican heritage how comes people with their heritage are making such outstanding contribution to this world am so pissed who r they!!! lol
always say imagine a crime free jamaica some of u who r hating jamaica will get severe depression.
@ bajan dont think for 1 minute that jamaicans arent aware of the crimes and the bad political foolishness happening and yes there r bad politics in barbados too, we r aware of it we r sick and tired of it so it cant b for u to b belting it out like that we r aware everyday we get a reminder. yes jamaicans dnt act happy we r fun and happy people thats y we excel at everything arent u amased at how talented and educated we r regardless of the crime problem, arent u amased at the impact that jamaica has made on the world, u dnt for 1 think that we dnt no whats goin on yes we dnt need a stereotyper and snob like u to tell us.
Jamaica have a crime situation so does evrywhere in the world yes even barbados remember ur a small country if u have 9 person kill eg. in a year thats high thats a crime problem dnt forget that.. if u have 1 killing its a cause for concern…. Jamaicans r aware of the problem and we r suffering we dnt need snobs like u to remind us
ur not helping in anyway all ur doing is rubbing salt in injury and u no it and thats kinda sick and disgusting, u dnt use crime in that context it does not matter what u say thats what u r doing using jamaicas crime situation to add salt to injury and its wrong.
Jamaica land we love
It isn’t just Barbadians (Bajans) saying Jamaica has a crime situation. According to one recent poll, Jamaicans also feel crime is the biggest issue affecting that island.
Article: CRIME SCOURGE: Jamaicans list crime as country’s main problem
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:50:00
Source: http://www.cananews.com – CANA News
Link: http://www.cananews.net/news/131/ARTICLE/59881/2011-04-28.html
SNIP — KINGSTON, Jamaica, CMC -Despite official statistics showing that murders have declined by 44 per cent, Jamaicans still consider crime to be the main problem facing the country, according to a new opinion poll published here on Wednesday.
“These results are not saying that economy and employment are not important, what is happening is a relative comparison, people still think that there are still problems associated with crime,” said Professor Ian Boxill, who conducted the April 9-15 poll on behalf of the RJR Communications Group.
According to the pollster, 41.5 per cent of the 1,115 persons questioned identify crime as the main problem facing the country; while 23 per cent felt unemployment was the main issue with 15 per cent pointing to the economy.– END SNIP
Enough with all the trash talk, Ms. Myrie deserves an apology, and disregarding the incident because of pride helps no ones case, Imagine what the woman went through, and after demanding that she was wronged not even an apology, she was only snuffed at(how dare you Ms. Myrie be so bold)it just mere fabrication… put yourself in her shoes. We need to get off our high horses, do the honorable thing and let us move on
@ J Payne
i thought ur suppose to be einstein, every single jamaican is upset and sick of the crime and voilence that is going on in jamaica which one of us have not experience it.
its all over the internet cause we r frustrated sometimes we feel hopeless, u could post these articles till ur fingers fell off WE KNOW YOU SNOB so what 44% decrease in crime is still a big accomplishment and yes we still would not feel safe until crime goes away totally. END SNIP i get the feeling that ur telling me that 44% means nothing based on that poll i honestly beleive that u r a lunatic and ur worst than hitler, ur like racist and ur certainly a snob. U better understand that ur people r little bit and so often jamaicans abroad often stand and protect u guys dont worry now ur on ur own, its one thing u cant say is that jamaica treats ur people like slaves but i guess some of ur people wants to be slave masters that y they become snobs and wants to brutalize other caribbean nationals.
again if 5 people are killed in barbados in a year its a crime problem because of ur population u need to no that!!!! barbados often cover up the crimes because they want to protect there tourism be very careful on how u r smiling at jamaicas crime problem all now u dont seem to understand the context by which ur presenting these articles on the blog, J Payne u and ur cronies r using jamaica’s crime situation to build ur case that the country is build upon mahem and killing…. and ur fooling noone cause jamaica is way more than that.
we r not pretending like everything is ok, but we cannot let it hold us down again arent u amased how we brush our shoulders off and live our lives to the fullest, we have to live, ur just jealous cause u dont no how we do it, look at barbados low in crime, high literacy rate but yet it remain stagnant i makes no significant impact to this world, u no y is that bcause some of u r snobs so people dnt like u.
WE jamaicans still dnt feel safe regardless of the reduction in crime but we r goin to run for lives, we r goin to sing and deejay for our lives, we r goin to continue to take our education globally, check how many jamaicans are enrolled in universities worldwide and we r goin to use the opportunity to excel, we r goin to strive jamaica have more professional than ever, more boys and girls r enrolled in universities more than ever, who god bless no one curse u no y we can smile through our pain and suffering is because we r strong and we r determine. jamaica have more churches per square than any other country in the world jamaicans r god fearing people criminals r minority.
u r still goin to see jamaicans excelling regardless because we will never let crime hinder us from acheiving what we want. So i dont no what u guys r goin to do, jamaicans r good people we dont care if u want to stereotype anymore.
Continue to be in denial if u treat people like animals expect the same, one day ur goin to mess with the wrong jamaican thats all i have to say.
Jamaica land we love
You ppl arguing over who have this and who have that just seem like a bunch of illiterates. The matter is regarding Ms Myrie and how she was ill-treated by immigration official in Bdos.
Talk all you want Jca is still loved by ppl around the world, even Rihanna dedicated a section of her house to Bob Marley and always speak fondly of Jca. She was in Jca to film her recent video for her reggae song. Guess travelling enlightens some ppl. Rather than being locked in Bdos you llot need to go travel and enlighten yourselves. Jamaica has and will always be an integral part of the Caribbean All the stray cats above must know this…
Blatant Insensitivity
There appears to be blatant insensitivity couple with arrogance, deeply roots in the social tapestry of Barbadian society? I want to call attention to an issue that I believe is of great concern to me. I have notice quite recently that the attitude of some Barbadians who resides on the island; reflects an impertinent towards our Jamaicans neighbors with respect to the rape of the Jamaican national.
Since the rape of the Jamaican national which has stirred up contention between the two islands, there have been vacuous onslaught of generalizations directed at Jamaican nationals based on established stereotypical orthodoxy by some Barbadians. Irrespective, of this fixed and conformed way of characterizing Jamaicans; I nonetheless was taught as a child that Barbadians were hospitable people with an industrious spirit. But I have since discovered that we are also an arrogant people with a downright impertinence, for West Indians whom we deem economically and socially marginalize.
Furthermore, in recent weeks I have been acutely attentive to the current affairs on the island, since the debacle between Barbados and Jamaican unfolded into an unanticipated negative narrative. During the initial stage of the incident and beyond, one consistent theme started too emerged and that was, the arrogance disposition that has been displayed by some Barbadians, as their started rationalize the intricate dynamics of the incident.
Nonetheless, after reading about the complex details of the incident, I couldn’t help but to feel a sense of disappointment and shame for my homeland, its people, and our reputation. Due to the fact that prior to this incident, Barbados and Barbadians had enjoy a favorable reputation throughout the Caribbean and wider world in general; however, I must confess that based on my country’s historical unfolding I would have never envisioned my fellow Barbadians officials engaging in this kind of immoral turpitude.
There action were outrageous, but what troubles me most of all was the nature of the comments that were directed at the Jamaican nationals preceding this incident. Some Barbadians characterized Jamaican nationals with words that I wouldn’t endeavor to articulate here. Moreover, these people possessed the audacious impudicity to characterize all Jamaicans as drug dealers; this kind of mindset in my opinion imbues the principle of ignorance. And I would say to those people, “that which is woven in ignorance, must not be weaved in enlightenment” because many of my friends are Jamaicans who are people of high moral standing in their respective communities; and for one to arbitrarily assert this view, serve no good purpose but to subvert the good that those hard working and decent Jamaicans has done and are doing.
We must be circumspect with respect to the kind of comments we make regarding our neighbors; because this kind of behavior only gives rise to the further fragmentation of the fragile bond the glue the region together. I could comprehend to some extent that in an emotionally charge issue like this, how one can react irrationally; but we can’t afford to be so gullible as to let our passions be so easily harness by these kind of issues that we lose all respect for our fellow West Indian .
This reprehensible display of emotions has not place among people who rate themselves to be the best educated and well cultivated elements in the region. So therefore, I think that it is safe to conclude that there is relatively clear evidence that supports the view; that the characteristics of the modern Barbadian culture invites what I term, a blatant insensitivity for those who don’t merit our veneration.
Finally, this kind of behavior should invoke our moral condemnation; because we must bear in mind the fact, that every West Indian should be look upon with a deep sense of respect. Irrespective of the general accepted view we hold of each other; we should never underscore the important role we all play to make the region a better place. Yet it can be noted, that it’s only when West Indian people travel to foreign lands their come to realize the common strides that unity, rather the unfounded differences that separate them in the regions of the Caribbean.
Last time I came through immigration there was some who har at one of the booths. A woman tourist was being given a hard time by a boot faced immigration officier.
A more unwelcoming crew you never did see.
Lighten up you jerks these folks are bringing in money – I know we are too rich to need it but we are civilised aint we?
Hey you all Jamaicans,we are now in the month of May.Where is Ms .Myrie ?How come she has not yet identified the person ?Do you all still believe her,or are you all now coming to your senses ?Heard that she dont know if to say it was a Police Officer,an Immigration Officer,a Customs Officer or a Security Officer.I even heard a Red Cap baggage woman,who wears a blue cap was the culprit.Whoever she chooses to identify,it would be proven that she is a bold face lying whore.That is why she would not come back to Bdos.
Bajans and Jamaicans:
All of you behaving like insular stupid asses, the lot of you. my heritage spans both islands and right now the way both camps have conducted themselves has left me quite ashamed. Instead of waiting for a factual detailed investigation (bilaterally coordinated) it comes down to whose food is better and which country has the higher rate of crime. All i see are little children shouting at each other over the c’bean sea. YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!
Jamaicans check the name and tale of Tawana Brawley and get back to me.
Thank goodness everyone is off. I now have a whole blog for myself.
Now that tempers are cooled, everyone gone, i am going to change my mind and fly to Barbados on REDjet for a few dollars.
Let me see Barbados for myself. I no longer bitter with Bajans after meeting a number of them that worked here in Montego Bay.
They are friendly, wow! the ladies are sweet although not as beautiful as Jamaicans. Only the accent sound funny, but all in all, Most of our Bajan brothers and sisters are not the monsters as appeared on this Bolg.
TUT! TUT.. My own blog… Its great to be writing to myself.
Mark L. Fenton @
Oh! Your comment is the best in this blog. It would be a disservice to humanity if your are not a lecturer at some noble institution.
…..better for us if you are in the Caribbean.
You are a great thinker. Peace be with you.
I beg of you to let me re- submit your blog.
Blatant Insensitivity
There appears to be blatant insensitivity couple with arrogance, deeply roots in the social tapestry of Barbadian society? I want to call attention to an issue that I believe is of great concern to me. I have notice quite recently that the attitude of some Barbadians who resides on the island; reflects an impertinent towards our Jamaicans neighbors with respect to the rape of the Jamaican national.
Since the rape of the Jamaican national which has stirred up contention between the two islands, there have been vacuous onslaught of generalizations directed at Jamaican nationals based on established stereotypical orthodoxy by some Barbadians. Irrespective, of this fixed and conformed way of characterizing Jamaicans; I nonetheless was taught as a child that Barbadians were hospitable people with an industrious spirit. But I have since discovered that we are also an arrogant people with a downright impertinence, for West Indians whom we deem economically and socially marginalize.
Furthermore, in recent weeks I have been acutely attentive to the current affairs on the island, since the debacle between Barbados and Jamaican unfolded into an unanticipated negative narrative. During the initial stage of the incident and beyond, one consistent theme started too emerged and that was, the arrogance disposition that has been displayed by some Barbadians, as their started rationalize the intricate dynamics of the incident.
Nonetheless, after reading about the complex details of the incident, I couldn’t help but to feel a sense of disappointment and shame for my homeland, its people, and our reputation. Due to the fact that prior to this incident, Barbados and Barbadians had enjoy a favorable reputation throughout the Caribbean and wider world in general; however, I must confess that based on my country’s historical unfolding I would have never envisioned my fellow Barbadians officials engaging in this kind of immoral turpitude.
There action were outrageous, but what troubles me most of all was the nature of the comments that were directed at the Jamaican nationals preceding this incident. Some Barbadians characterized Jamaican nationals with words that I wouldn’t endeavor to articulate here. Moreover, these people possessed the audacious impudicity to characterize all Jamaicans as drug dealers; this kind of mindset in my opinion imbues the principle of ignorance. And I would say to those people, “that which is woven in ignorance, must not be weaved in enlightenment” because many of my friends are Jamaicans who are people of high moral standing in their respective communities; and for one to arbitrarily assert this view, serve no good purpose but to subvert the good that those hard working and decent Jamaicans has done and are doing.
We must be circumspect with respect to the kind of comments we make regarding our neighbors; because this kind of behavior only gives rise to the further fragmentation of the fragile bond the glue the region together. I could comprehend to some extent that in an emotionally charge issue like this, how one can react irrationally; but we can’t afford to be so gullible as to let our passions be so easily harness by these kind of issues that we lose all respect for our fellow West Indian .
This reprehensible display of emotions has not place among people who rate themselves to be the best educated and well cultivated elements in the region. So therefore, I think that it is safe to conclude that there is relatively clear evidence that supports the view; that the characteristics of the modern Barbadian culture invites what I term, a blatant insensitivity for those who don’t merit our veneration.
Finally, this kind of behavior should invoke our moral condemnation; because we must bear in mind the fact, that every West Indian should be look upon with a deep sense of respect. Irrespective of the general accepted view we hold of each other; we should never underscore the important role we all play to make the region a better place. Yet it can be noted, that it’s only when West Indian people travel to foreign lands their come to realize the common strides that unity, rather the unfounded differences that separate them in the regions of the Caribbean.
@ al robinson
Your windy, arrogant and foolish if you think that soliloquy was believable and the person’s name was fenty. Always with the ‘couched attack’ you think people can’t see through your words. jamaicans did all the attacking from the minute the issue and their press blew it all out of proportion. So we must keep looking for a real important issue of the killing of denroy davis a bajan national – after all our issues come first!
Then we can deal with minor ones, especially from desperate ‘yawning’ individuals. Jamaica is a mess and some of them are messed up too. These gang, ghetto and garrison people would like nothing better than to pull bim down to their level.
All the chat in the world isn’t going to persuade anybody of what your trying too hard to suggest especially for people that know bim people already so it doesn’t matter what you think, feel or believe does it.
You will never have a blog site where you won’t be challenged! I will give people the facts incase they don’t know where to look for them.
Does anybodyelse have any more stupid comments to make?
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@JAM. I am over the whole allegation.
I too very much find it strange that when the Barbados government asked her to return and point out who did whatever she claims she’s nowhere in sight! All of a sudden she doesn’t want to help with the investigation? I don’t know anybody who says their rights have been violated, or they’ve been personally violated and refused to point out who attacked them. I mean she doesn’t have to be scared because she doesn’t live in Barbados. Additionally, the minister in Barbados is a woman and would likely want to find anyone in customs who would do such a thing. I am beginning to question the whole claim and I’m sure enough glad the cameras will be going up in the Barbados airport…. Those that planning to come with false claims may have to think twice.
What anti-Jamaican sentiment in Barbados? Do you see how much work Jamaican artistes get in Barbados? Was it not the Jamaican Prime Minister who was invited to give a speech when the Hon. David Thompson (former) Prime Minister of Barbados died? I don’t think there’s an anti-Jamaican thing. Jamaica is no different from anybody else, they’re just another island.
These jamaicans are full of hype and rubbish anyway, leave them alone with their lies – it nah get them anywhere except on the garbage heap of life along with the corrupt and equally scandalous british and american governments!
You just have to read the history to know about all of them.
” @wilkki ” jamaicans don’t care about Barbados, so why the hell are you researching things about us ediot, Barbados doesn’t even come into the mind of most jamaicans, I can bet a lot of jamaicans couldn’t even locate Barbados on the map. Jamaicans are not hype, the correct word would be we are ” PROUD ” we are proud because so many great things came out of Jamaica, everywhere you go in the world people love Jamaica, we are culturally popular worldwide, our music, food, people etc. USAIN BOLT has been named the most marketable athlete in the world and he is more popular than Barack Obama. Jamaican students in America have the most ivy league collage graduates per capita than other country. Jamaica has had a Rhodes scholar every year ( except during the second world war when it was suspended ) since 1904. The Rhodes scholarship is the world’s oldest and most prestigious Scholarship, for students who will study at Oxford University in England. All the hatred that is coming from bajans is stemming from jealousy, you wish your country was famous like jamaica, but you people are badmind and that’s not going to take you anywhere even Rihanna said most of her haters are bajans. Rihanna is also shooting a music video in Jamaica, well more power and popularity for us. So bajans stop hating.
@Dalia ! Girl yu are certainly living up to the world wide FACT ,that Jamaica have some of the most illiterate people in the Universe.I never said ALL Jamaican women are whores.What I did say is that Ms .Myrie IS A WHORE.In every country in the Universe there are whores,so what is your problem ?I am going to repeat,WHERE IS MYRIE ?We in Bdos need her here to identify the person who she said did this to her.All you Jamaicans who were so quick to believe her,should now form a squad and go looking for her.She certainly has made you all look like a pack of idiots.Where are you all ?would you all now come forward and acknowledge that yu were DUPED by a known WHORE !Yu see illiteracy,it is a bitch !When yu are illiterate,yu tend to believe anything.Any bet that if someone had come to Jamaica and said that there are blackbirds in Bdos’ cutting teeth’,that a whole set of yu illiterate ones would be flocking to Bdos ,just to see those blackbirds.
” @MICHEAL” your are the one that is dumb here, you made a stupid statement, that Jamaica has some of the most illiterate people in the universe. Jamaica literacy rate is 86% compared to the African country called Mali with the lowest which is 26%, Jamaican male ( 15-24 ) literacy rate is 92% and female ( 15-24 ) 98%, so shut the hell up and stop making yourself look stupid, you can find all this information on the Internet. Jamaica has had a rhodes scholar every year since 1904, the only time we didn’t have one was when their was world war 2; Jamaican students in American have the most ivy league collage graduates per capita than all the other international countries that are studying at those collages. A lot of my teachers use to tell me in high school in America than Jamaican students are always well behaved, respectful, smart hardworking and that jamaican students are always a head of the class. So Micheal your perception of Jamaica is not held by most people worldwide, your badmind and jealousy is blinding you from the good of Jamaica. Our murder rate is down 44% and is continuing to fall more. Usain bolt has Been named the most marketable sport star in the world, Jamaica is the leading Caribbean destination for tourist worldwide each year, it seems to me sometimes that people worldwide love Jamaica even more than jamaicans themselves, CNN voted Jamaica the third coolest nationality in the world beating only by brazil and Singapore, newsweek magazine voted Jamaica the best place to live in the Caribbean. There are plenty more positive things about Jamaica Too many to write, so stop your hatred and jealousy of Jamaica because Jamaicans don’t even talk about your country.
@Lazy !I said Jamaica has SOME of the most illiterate people in the Universe,and it appears that you are one of them !I never said that Jamaica has the most illiterate people in the Universe.Furthermore,only illiterate people can commit the amount of murders SOME of you all commit year every year.How come though that you stick on to that one comment,and not comment on the whore Myrie ?Where is Myrie ?Tell her the Bajan law makers need her here to identify the person so that the matter can be taken to Court.Other people have done the research on the crime in Jamaica,and I am flabbergasted !Of course not all Jamaicans are involved in crime,only SOME illiterate ones.I am curious,yr murder rate is down 44% from WHAT ?Give me figures,yu should’nt be beating yr chest on that,because it is still WAY TOO HIGH !I think yu are having problems understanding the meaning of the word SOME.,and I would suggest that yu consult the Oxford Students Dictionary on the meaning.Yu can find that under the letter S, then so ,then som,and finally some,and BINGO ,there yu would find the meaning.
” mucheal ” well then, Jamaica does not have some of the most illiterate people in the universe, some of the most illiterate people live in the poorest countries in the world and every country has illiterate people also. Fool who are you calling illiterate, I can bet that I am more educated than you are, if you are even educated by the way, because I think you are a dunce, do you have a collage degree? I bet not. No not only iliterate people commit murders in jamaica and other countries ediot, murderers can be police officers, judges, doctors, politicians etc. George bush is a murderer, the rockerfeller family are murders, the rothschild family are murders, the jewish Zionist are murderers these people are well educated people but they are evil murders. You brainwash fool probably think the attacks on the twin towers(9-11) were done by Muslims and planned by a man living in a cave. Jamaica is not the only country where murders happen. Shanique myrie is not a whore, who are you to be calling someone a whore when you have a whore ” RIHANNA ” as your ambassador. The investigation is still going on, myrie has no reason to lie, your corrupt politicians are the ones who are lying because they don’t want Barbados to look bad, she said she will point out all the person’s who did it to her. Jamaica is not the first country that complained, how your immigration officers treat people horrible at the airport, Guyanese, st lucians, st vincent have all complained too. Guyanese people say they are treated like criminals in your cesspool country, your badmind is what is blinding your from the truth. Our murder rate is down 44% compared to last year figures, you can google ” Jamaica murder rate down ” you will see the figures, but you wouldn’t know that but anything negative about Jamaica, I bet you know that, you and the bajan people are a bunch of haters. What the hell you mean I shouldn’t beat my chest, if there are less murders in Jamaica I am most definitely going to beat my chest, one murder is one too many. It’s continuing to decline and I am happy, but I bet you are sad, because you don’t like too see anything positive about Jamaica. In the HOLY KORAN it says ” anyone who kills a single soul he is like one who killed all humanity ” and ” anyone who saves a single soul he is like one who saved the lives/soul of all mankind ” but no turn the other cheek foolishness. I know the meaning of the word ” some ” you don’t need to explain anything to me. What you should do is write a letter to your prime minister and ask him to make a public apology to jamaicans for the filthy nasty treatment shanique myrie had to go through at your tiny airport which is the size of our Ian Flemming airport in Jamaica and arrest the the immigration officers. Jamaica is the best country in the Caribbean, we don’t need your stupid caricom, caricom cannot survive without Jamaica, just like the federation, you need us more than we need you.
@Lazy !I will repeat !WHERE IS THE WHORE MYRIE ? All that jargon yu wrote means nothing to me,for I am now more than ever convinced that yu still don’t know the meaning of the word some.Instead ,yu all should have by now gotten hold of the whore Myrie,and shipped her back to Bdos,not to sell her body,but to identify the woman so that the Courts could investigate and bring closure.Our Prime Minister should apoligised to whom ?A WHORE ?Look about a month ago,the Prime Minister made a brief statement on the WHORE MYRIE,and from the tone of his voice and the words he used,he too is CONVINCED that Myrie is lying !and the longer Myrie remains in hiding,the more people,sensible Jamaicans and all ,would be convinced TOO !not illiterate ones like yu !How do yu know it was an Immigration Officer? I thought it was a Police Officer !But didn’t she say it was a Customs Officer or was she being confused with a Red Cap baggage handler who wears a blue cap?By the way ,the man who was supposed to pick her up ,operates a whore club here in Bridgetown.,and he said one other Jamaican came in about two weeks before Myrie,and was selling her body on Bay Street in Bridgetown.That one usually sits in a white chair on the same Bay Street.I passed there sometime ago, stopped and chatted,and lo and behold ,there was this pretty Jamaican offering her services for $60 Bajan.I told her I was going to the bank to get some money,but do yu know that up to this day I cannot find my bank or an ATM machine !
@Lazy, just like africanus you write rubbish, nothing about your economy or people at the moment says that you aren’t dependant on all the other countries you had the gaul to mention. As for some of the other caribbean countries – they better check their crime before they talk because any fool can check it.
Ms Myrie, buju banton, christopher deadass coke and all the other idiots coming out of jamaica are involved with drugs and crime -FACT.
@micheal its good we have people down on the ground to check what these idiots are blogging about, they make no sense and can’t keep track of their own argument let alone anyoneelses.
Its best to let them drown in this Stink stew they cooked up for themselves.
They pretend to be friends and stab people in the back, thats why bigger drugs lords like the CIA/IRA can use them like muppets – even though its they that get locked up for it-FACT.
leave them with their crazy talk its all they have left, most are finnished on drugs anyway. always peddling and medeling for the MAN
You guys are so silly. Here we are, black nations hating on each other. That’s why were sold into slavery in the first place, lack of unity. Stop with the hate. That’s why the other races are way ahead of us. Love to all caribbean people,
Where is Myrie ?I thought she was coming back to Barbados by the middle of August to point out the person or persons.What are all you ignorant Jamaicans saying now? I said from the beginning that she was lying and would never ever come back.I understand her Lawyers are saying that the Bajan Authorities didn’t say that they wanted to questioned her when she returns,when it is obvious to everbody that she just can’t come and point out someone and then go back.It is unbelievable,absolutely unbelievable that a Lawyer of all people,could use that as an excuse for not bringing her back.Man ,that is akin to a woman asking a man if he has an erection before intercourse.It should be clear by now ,very clear that Myrie is nothing more than a lying whore.,and the Bajan authorities should not even bother with corressponding with those Lawyers anymore.
@138 You are so correct.
“It should be clear by now, very clear that Myrie is nothing more than a lying whore”.
What about the Jamaican woman that was caught bringing drugs into Barbados and claimed that she was sexually molested if not raped by a police officer with the connivance of another police officer (female)?
Is she a lying whore too? Or do you think that since she was trafficking drugs she deserves to be punished by being sexually violated because that is where Jamaican women usually hide drugs?
Below thread meant for michael above:
It should be clear by now, very clear that Myrie is nothing more than a lying whore”.
What about the Jamaican woman that was caught bringing drugs into Barbados and claimed that she was sexually molested if not raped by a police officer with the connivance of another police officer (female)?
Is she a lying whore too? Or do you think that since she was trafficking drugs she deserves to be punished by being sexually violated because that is where Jamaican women usually hide drugs?
@ millertheanunnaki,first of all i think all women are whores by lying on there back and having a bunch of retards like yourself.@ 138 you are soo right,black people hate on each other too often,we all from the caribbean with african background,we need to start showing love and unity,it’s a disgrace,i’m a dual citizen of jamaica and united states,i call myself a proud black african female,people on here leaving comments saying jamaica has the highest crime rates,first of all crime is everywhere around the world,i’m from a christian family but that doesnt mean i’m perfect,but what you give is what you get back,meaning show love and others will show back the love
@ charm:
“millertheanunnaki,first of all i think all women are whores by lying on there back and having a bunch of retards like yourself.”
if you had the slightest shred of common sense you would been able to appreciate my ironic use of language. What I was implying is that Ms Myrie should not be described as a liarat this stage because a subsequent event involving the sexual abuse or violation of a fellow country woman can add credence to Ms Myrie’s case. In other words I am against maltreatment and abuse of anyone travelling to Barbados. Doy you get it now, charm? By the way, all women are not whores or are you trying to tell us something about your spear and distaff intellectual background?
millertheanunnaki
October 9, 2011 at 8:16
What about the Jamaican woman that was caught bringing drugs into Barbados and claimed that she was sexually molested if not raped by a police officer with the connivance of another police officer (female)?
Is she a lying whore too? Or do you think that since she was trafficking drugs she deserves to be punished by being sexually violated because that is where Jamaican women usually hide drugs?
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Two police officers were arrsted and charged in this case. If found guilty they will facethe full weight of the law as they deserve to. There is no public support in Barbados for what they are accused of. The Myrie case is different she is making serious allegations but refuses to return to Barbados for questioning and investigations to proceed. Truth is she maybe lying afterall.
kmt!!! Jesus is coming soon! See if it matters where u r from when He comes! We are placed here for a short time and we should all treat other with love & respect..Is heaven ur home? or is it Jamaica or Barbados?
I have read this blog with mouth wide open.
Firstly, in relation to the story at hand, I cannot say whether it was true or not because I was not there. Could the authorities be lying – possibly. Could the alleged victim be lying – possibly.
As has been stated elsewhere in all such cases wherever you are in the world there is a need for transparency. Those in authority need to be able to do their work without it being undermined.
In my professional working life in the UK, I have to ensure that I do not put myself in a compromising position. Whether or not the full truth comes out (no blame attached). It would be best for all parties that some form of monitoring be setup. The person being searched for example would be asked to sign documentation, have an independent person available and a right of appeal.
On the other subject regarding the Bajan/Jamaican competition, jealousy, hatred. I am not sure what is going on here.
My story is one of always wanting to display equaliyty. I was never aware of other West Indian groups growing up in the UK. But, I did realise that some black people did not like me. It is not until now that I realise that the group of people that did not like me were Jamaican. This did not concern me, until now and I thank the Jamaican women that gained my trust and then defrauded me. She has helped me to be more aware of the real differences between the islands. I was once told by a family member that it will never work because “..we are not one people..”.
Why?, you may ask. As a management consultant I was encouraged by a Jamaican women to support her to develop a business offering as she did not have the requisite accreditation’s. As part of the manipulation she lied to me about a white director that had been involved with her. Claiming that he and several other white people were racists. I made a point of not having anything to do with these people. It later transpired that she had lied. She also went on to trying to have money paid into my account without my knowledge and then wanted it withdrawn and paid to her in cash. At this point I severed all links. This is when she started to get nasty. She contacted all of my professional colleagues spreading lies and rumours. The result, I am unemployed and unemployable having not received £15,000 from her for work done and contracts gained. Will I trust a Jamaican again, never.
It is time we realise this. From my research the slaves that originally made up Barbados may have been different to those that made up Jamaica “..coromantees – rebellious..”. It is a fact that globally we are all different peoples and that it is partly nature and nurture. The slave experience may have been substantially different in Jamaica, but there is nothing I can do about that.
I would like to all, European, Asian, African or the decent there of. Currently I do not trust Jamaicans or at least the many that I have met to date. They are war like, argumentative similar to some of the war-like Africans still perpetuating war. This distrust extends to some Europeans ans asians who continue to continue the falsehood of race, class and colour.
Currently, I will distrust all Jamaicans until they prove otherwise. I will not prejudice them and professionally in my work I will do my job and support them. But, I will not trust wholeheartedly.
So, back to the original article. If the story is correct then, I feel sorry for the woman. However, If she believes that she is not being taken seriously then she needs to blame her fellow Jamaicans for the worldwide distrust of their word.
In the UK they have Gypsies and Travelers who have created their own poor reputation. Jamaicans have managed to do this themselves. In my example, The Jamaican I dealt with was in a great position to work with another black person to develop an enterprise that could have been a model of excellence. However, her greed has made sure that I profile who I am doing business with.
@138
It would help if Jamaicans were to be not only proud of their heritage but to show some allegiance to their fellow African decendents. But they are a half full nation who do not see the abundance in the world and believe the recism out there. So, if there is a black person working in a company that is not Jamaican. They would rather bad mouth them and drag them down to take the one “black”job. Rather than ask for a hand up and grown the black involvement. In the UK the eastern europeans are pushing there way into UK jobs and pushing blacks out. They are helping each other and have made great inroads by this method. It is true that the Jamaican contingent in the UK is larger, but their hatred of other blacks, criminal activity and lack of motivation has created a problem for all blacks. We await the race riots over here due to their crimes.
I would like Jamaicans for helping me find my Bajan roots. UK born I did not pay much attention to it. But, I will ensure that others know that I am not Jamaican.
Shanique Myrie case hearing in Barbados 18 April at 10.00 am http://www.caribbeancourtofjustice.org/judgments-proceedings/judgments-sittings
i would love for some of these bajans to come to jamaica and say some of these things that am reading and let us all see what happens
Jamaicans is some a de most fuck up lookin foolish cunts in de world just look at portia & bolt. Portia look like a broad face black chynee & bolt one a dem grey alians
Little disingenuous I’ll say? You should know of course, that there are more Jamaicans abroad than on the island of Jamaica, and the population of Barbados is no way close to that of Jamaica. Let’s face it right on, Barbadians have made great achievements internationally, as well as Jamaicans. But how can you in all honesty compare the numbers Jamaicans to Barbadians internationally. When there are less than million Barbadians live on the island of Barbados, and some 4 million Jamaicans resides on the island of Jamaica.
We need to abandon this petty animosity, and try to understand the bigger picture here; first and forth most, we are all West Indians with common aims, and a common destiny. So therefore,the survival of the region is going to depend on our unity as West Indians, rather than our petty fragmentations.
You’re quite right, Jamaicans are known for their reggae and dancehall music. But I’ve notice that when Soca music starts play 99.99% of the
Jamaicans I know ease their way off the dance floor. It has been said, and I’ve witness it myself, that most Jamaicans cannot dance to Soca music.
If you want to compare famous Jamaicans, then here is the Barbadian list.
1)Eric Holder U.S Attorney General
2)Check your history Barbadians discovered the State of South
Carolina in 1630
3)Prince Hall in the 1700s discovered the Black Freemasons in America
4)Shirley Chisholm first black Congress woman, first black women to run for the presidency
5)Grandmaster Flesh one of the inventor of Rap music
6)Dougie Fresh great rappa
7)LL Cool J
8)Cuba Gooding Jr.
Just to name a few my friend, you have to keep in mind also that Jamaica is much bigger than Barbados with the population to match.
correction jamaica’s population is approximately 2.8 million even though it is still larger than yours. anyway let me tell you something about jamaicans as long as you and a person dont have something personal they will not do such acts on to them as your fellow immigration officers did they are racist and unfair to my people so dont talk about petty animosity it may seems as nothing to you but its a big deal for me they should be arrested charged and removed from their jobs. as i was saying as it relates to persons who are famous i was talking musically and ll cool jay is the only person i know on that list who cares about Shirley Chisholm i dont even know her hence she isnt famous most of those persons you have on that list i would have to do some indept research on them they may be famous i meant popular among your people and probably a few person who have a degree in Caribbean history . let me give you some update about famous people and i know you know everybody on this list
sean kingston
sean paul
vybz kartel
movado
beenie man
lady saw
shabba ranks
shaggy
bob marley
and i was going to say busta rhymes but his parents are the ones who are jamaicans so i would leave that one out. Thats just for music and if i should ever go into politics and sports as you did i would have way more on that list and you know it?
The jamaican soldiers does be lookin real hungry how are they goin to get here…perhaps on red jet maby the jolly roger. As soon as Jamaicans artist get a hit they move to america and end up behind bars. What kartel,movado,bob or any a dem ever do ta help out jamaicans. One get lil money and bathe in clorox de next one face sa hard he jaws touchin he teet like he starvin or sumtin. Lastly most jamaican women got veiny lookin hands and deep voices like some real trannys
After you check your bags the dogs smell them, when you get to Barbados the dogs smell you again on the line. After the Bags reach BGI the dogs smell them again before you pick them up..When you pick up your bags , under cover police are there to see who pick up the bags.
So maybe the dogs smell some thing or some one tip off the police.
Nothing was found this time, but to all in the drug business, or who love to use or smoke. Dont smoke or be with others who do before you leave to come to BGI or the states ,, Leave your drugs and ways at home.
Why take the risk when BGI have their own Drugs at the Ports .
@Jamaica
Jamaica you have my sincere apology for my commingling of your statistical demographics. However, as I gave further thought to what I had written last evening, I subsequently realized I had mistaken the population outside of Jamaica, for that inside of Jamaica. Now let me say this much however , a lot my friends are Jamaicans. And I had in the past dated several Jamaican women,that I founded to be highly respected moral individuals.
And to quite frank, I hold no animosity whatsoever against Jamaicans; as matter fact I believe that the island of Jamaican is integral to the region .
In any event, I’ve realized that there is good, and bad in every nation, as well as ignorance and illiteracy, and Barbados is no exception to this general premise. Now, not to be too impenitence with respect to this comment, but you have spew a list of individuals with the exception of Bob Marley, that has contributed nothing with substance to effectuate change in the human- condition. I nonetheless,I respect they artistic abilities and they connections to the concept of caribbeanization. But you could of done better I think, and judging from your list I surmised that your young in age, I hope.
Now,Jamaica, with respect to Mrs.Shirley Chrisholm, I think that it is important that we as a people of color be mindful of our history. And quite frankly,Mrs. Chrisholm has contributed to it in a significant way. She was the first women of color to have been elected to the Congress of the United States, and the first woman in the history of the United States to run for the presidency.And I’m happy to say to you today, that she was educated in Barbados, in the early part of her life. So she not only represents Gender quality,Barbados,Caribbean, America,but she is the example left for young -black girl to emulate, don’t you think?
@Jamaica
Jamaica, the bottom line is this, we here in the Caribbean have in some
respects our own cultural idiosyncrasies, which speak volume about us as a people. So this idea that Jamaicans are some of the most ignorant people in the world, is with much substance. There is a say that the exception proves the rule, and quite frankly, this isn’t well founded in every case.
Let’s face it, whether we accept it, or we reject , the consensus seems quite clear, that the island of Jamaica has to some extent contributed to the image of the Caribbean, in both a negative and a positive way. Now, some here in the Caribbean thinks that Jamaicans are some of the most arrogant people in the world , but you haven’t seen real arrogance until you have met a Nigerian.
@Jamaica
The finally thing I’m going to say on this issue is this. It is important that we
critically survey the statements we make, especially when it comes to besmearing, denigrating, and vitiating the general character of a nation and its people . Yes, there has been a culture of corruption, and illegal active associated with the island of Jamaica. But as I said before, we can’t unilaterally or arbitrarily color with a broad bush, the collective Jamaican population for the criminal turpitudes of a few. When we do this, it does a disservice to the rest of the population that has no part in this kind of behavior.
I’ve realized that from time to time that there are going to be, disagreements, and we aren’t always going to see eye to eye on every given issue. But the thing I think we need to bear in mind is the fact that we don’t engage in behaviors which convey a message of impertinence. If we stay focus on the facts, however vague there are, we can’t go wrong.
have you ever heard of the term element of surprise don’t ever try to under estimate the JAMAICA DEFENCE FORCE
thanks for the info i didn’t realize that she was that type of person she must be very important to your country just like Marcus Garvey is to Jamaica. As a jamaican i must say you have earned my respect because i can see that you are a well educated person and can reason with unlike some of these people they seems to have a cognitive disorder or something. anyway you are quite correct about my age am just 18 and going to the caribbean maritime institute the best in the region even some of your people fly all the way to jamaica to come to that college and they are respected a 100 %
totally agree with that last comment I remember seeing a comment from bajans saying ” Jamacians give the west indies a bad name, everyone knows it. Being called Jamacian is nearly as bad as being called a nigger”
and “Typical ignorant Jamaican talking shit, get it into your thick coconut skull, nobody wants your kind in their countries because you are a bunch of uncivilized, ignorant porch monkeys only fit for drug running, raping and murdering”. these are live comments from youtube
@Jamaica
Yes, Marcus Garvey is well respected for his efforts to uplift the collective masses of black people. And quite frankly, he is one of my personal
heroes, because he is the first black man in the history of America, to arouse the collective conscience of black people universally.
As West Indian people, and people of African descent, (no impertinence intended to the other ethnics who are residing in the Caribbean) we should be searching for ways to enhance the region, and strengthening the superficial chains which connects and defines us as West Indians.
Seriously now, what benefits are there to be derived from calling one another distasteful names? My desire as a West Indian is to see a unified Caribbean, focus fundamental on science, and technology. Which I think will be the medium through which this cycle of dependency will be dismantle forever, Take for example China; one would have never imagined that America would have been indebted to china, one of the poorest nations in the world some fifty years ago, but it is.
This is the kind of vision I want to see for the Caribbean, a united Caribbean that is parametrically shifting to science, and technology, had did China and India,the two poorest regions in the world some fifty years ago.
our leaders have a very important role in making that vision come to reality that is the main reason why we have Caricom but it seems as if it is put in place for just free trade and freedom of movement. i would love to see more togetherness and love for each other
If it is true, then the woman who defiled her should be punished. It’s degrading. Better safety measures to stop this from happening again.
@ Jamaican
I think one of the reasons that the Caribbean Federation has failed was due in part to the issue of Natural Resources. Now if we have a Federation operating on a collective basis. Armed with the instruments of freedom of Trade and freedom of Movement then the more successful islands are obviously going to be burden by the much poorer ones.
A prime example of what I speak about can be drawn from the number of St. Lucian’s, and Guyanese who has been invading the shores of Barbados for many years now. Let’s face it, who wants to leave the country of one’s birth especially when there is economic and social stability. I believe to resolve the issue of legal and illegal immigration. Islands in the Caribbean would have to engage in what I call an impartial Distribution of Resources, you know that’s not going to happen.
Obviously, the idea of instituting an immigration quota defeats the original purpose of Caricom in the first. A quota entails preferential treatment and the abridgment of the freedom of movement one of the conditions of the Caricom. Now what I’m advancing here is mere speculation, and prior knowledge of these two institutions, so therefore I stand to be corrected.
I am in shock at this type of behavior by the Barbados Immigration Officers<My God no one should be subjected to such degrading treatment <I bet you a million dollars if it was a white woman from the U.S or Europe ,I bet you this would be on the housetops and the media would be having a field day ,In fact this wouldn't have happened.You need to get it together in that country and stop profiling people ,not every Jamaican is a drug trafficker ,Get rid of the fucking plantation mentality and stop acting as If your country is better than anyone other .Take pride in your country but don't disrespect other people .
Well an educated person would say the same thing but it seems majority of Bajans agree with the situation so obviously they dont like jamaicans
I do not even know how I ended up here, but I thought this post was good.
I do not know who you are but definitely you’re going to a famous blogger if you aren’t already 😉 Cheers!
People just doesn’t like Jamaicans, it’s a sad fact. you guys never prosper in no advance countries, instead they bring their crimes, something that is within them, Jamaicans gives other black people a bad reputation abroad with their Plantation mentality arguing over which island is bigger from which is smaller.lol their ignorance is international, intellectual people watch them and laugh, William Lynch saw all of this coming.
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Problem in the Caribbean (big problem) is that each country has become quite insular with the “am better than you mentality” toward each other, as a Caribbean person who is unable to call one island my nationalistic nightmare because each parent came from one or the other island and i was born in another with my various extended families, siblings, children, grandchildren etc all born in various islands and countries around the world, thank you GOD; am very qualified to say that the obsession with nationalism is the Caribbean’s downfall, they continue to copy all the wrong things from the industrialized countries because of politians and church leaders who lack positive vision and still carry around the plantation mentality like a badge of honor. Though we are supposed to be brothers and cousins to each other the dislike and disdain still remains unless one of our own wins an olympic medal or miss world or miss universe, then suddenly we are ONE PEOPLE, the day after that the disdain and dislike and disrespect returns. It’s tiresome and sends a totally wrong and mixed message to the young who have no choice but to continue the cycle of ignorance with very little chance of breaking it or changing the mentality.
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Before we can ever start to think about the unification of the people of the Caribbean, we must first eliminate the pervasive ignorance that continues to permeate the cultures of the Caribbean.
I am a Bajan living in the UK, and I would discourage any British person from Holidaying in Barbados.
Nowhere in the world would anyone want a body search to be taped. Any suggestion so is absolutely stupid. How many mules did they catch in Barbados during the past 2 years?
I think Ms. Myrie was a prober for other drug mules; many have been caught since the Myrie incident. Drug smuggling is a problem not the Barbados people or Government.
Caribbean governments need to do more this leads to lots of killings. Look at the two most powerful islands in the English speaking Caribbean they are in a Robbery, Rape, Kidnapping and murder epidemic. Very nice people slaughtering each other they ate the good people. The people who try to stop these cold blooded killers are the bad guys. It’s time for West Indians or whatever name we want to be called by be honest with ourselves. We have some bad horrible people amongst us.
correction are the good people not ate the good peope.
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Four years have passed today Jamaica is A bigger mess with A weaker currency. Where is your outrage for the Jamaican women and children you’have killed since. We are seeing more of you here in Bim now. Why are you here. Did you really think we forgot. The customs agents are still catching you bastards at the airport. This six months visa sh.t has to stop. To many you of crawling in we country. Sick Ca wanna crabs still coming.
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