“We urge financial advisers considering recommending consumers paying monies or further monies over to any of the companies in the Harlequin group at this time to proceed with caution.
You should ensure that consumers fully understand the risks involved with the investment. You should also advise consumers to obtain legal advice from lawyers in the country where the property is located before proceeding with any investment in a company in the Harlequin group.”
… UK Financial Conduct Authority
The last five or six months have seen a lot of talk of plans and schemes to rescue the investments of the poor folks who believed everything that Dave Ames said about Harlequin’s business plans. Nevermind that even the most mathematically challenged should have been able to see that Harlequin’s ability to continue to build relied upon finding new suckers, ah, ‘investors’ willing to suspend their disbelief as if they were watching a child’s cartoon on Saturday morning.
Harlequin was first and only a Ponzi scheme where payback to earlier investors was only possible with money from new investors. I’m not sure of the current situation but I think it is something like only 300 units built out of 6000 sold, and no money left to build the missing units.
Or so I think. No doubt one of our readers can provide the current stats.
The UK Financial Conduct Authority remains concerned about plans by various Harlequin entities to ‘save’ investors’ monies… with only a small additional investment. Ha!
Have a read of the notice and then… class, discuss!
Update to information on investments made through Harlequin Management Services (South East) Limited (“Harlequin Property”)
The Financial Services Authority (FSA) issued an alert to financial advisers on 18 January 2013 regarding this subject. Since 1 April, the Financial Conduct Authority is one of the UK’s two new financial regulators, which has replaced the FSA.
The alert sets out our expectations where financial advisers recommend overseas properties purchased through Harlequin Property. It also sets out what advisers need to do before recommending an overseas property investment through Harlequin Property.
The full text of the alert can be found here. The FCA’s Harlequin page can be found here.
Since this date, important developments have taken place as follows:
On 5 March 2013 the Serious Fraud Office (“SFO”) announced that they, together with Essex Police, are looking into complaints in relation to the Harlequin group. They ask investors who have invested in specific resorts to contact them. Full details of the announcement along with a complete list of the resorts and how to contact SFO.
On 23 April, 2013 Harlequin Property filed to enter administration and Shipleys LLP have been appointed as administrator.
We are aware that on 13 May 2013, Harlequin Hotels & Resorts approached investors to state that Harlequin Property (SVG) Limited, another company within the Harlequin group, is working with SIPP and SSAS providers to facilitate the completion of built properties at Buccament Bay Resort. They invite investors who are in a position to fund the balance outstanding from their SIPP and SSAS or wish to relocate their investment from another Harlequin resort, to contact Harlequin Hotels & Resorts.
We wish to remind financial advisers that our expectations where financial advisers are asked for advice on overseas properties purchased through Harlequin group were set out in the alert of 18 January, which remain valid. Also, please note that Harlequin Property (SVG) Limited is not regulated by FCA and it is not a company incorporated in the UK. Harlequin Property (SVG) Limited is based in St Vincent and the Grenadines.
We urge financial advisers considering recommending consumers paying monies or further monies over to any of the companies in the Harlequin group at this time to proceed with caution. You should ensure that consumers fully understand the risks involved with the investment. You should also advise consumers to obtain legal advice from lawyers in the country where the property is located before proceeding with any investment in a company in the Harlequin group.
Barbados Free Press 
Speaking from a pro-islander point of view, maybe – just maybe – the
ultimate disposition of all the Harlequin entities is coming to a head.
Hopefully hard lessons have been learned by all and the different
developments can be finished in a somewhat less ambitious, scaled
down form that makes economic sense.
Someone once said -“the plains of ambition are bleached white
with the bones of those who tried, and having tried -failed”.
I wonder who in the right mind would complete on Buccament Bay? Could it be one of Ames many lies? how many to date completed = nil. Now 50+ smell a rat? Of course, he needs more money to keep going.
I do not trust Ames to contact investors with anything from RL- he will lie and slither.
RL needs to keep the pressure on Ames. He does not have long before liquidation or the SFO takes him away.
The whole thing stinks from start to finish, if it wasn’t for a few people who stood up to Ames, he would have continued.
RL is the only firm that has refused to be shaken off by the various dirty tactics employed by HP.
As Sid mentioned its their business and I for one would not begrudge them any money if the can helps some people out of this mess.
The real pity is the people burdened with debt for many years to come. They have little or no chance of seeing their money again.
The damage Ames has done will be around for many years. I honestly believe he will not nor his family benefit from such horrible actions.
Nikki Crozier has done a dam sight more that fat fatchett
@BFP, why are you regurgitating an article from the 17th June? Do you, or your sponsors, not think that things have moved on from then? If you cannot think of something new has a headline why not just shut up? Not that someone is pulling your strings eh?
Talk about biting the hand that feeds you…what a jerk !!!
Bob the FCA alert remains. And yes things have deteriorated even further. I suppose the usual suspects are also behind BFP now.?.Has it not dawned on you that Ames despised in the Caribbean.
@FDNRM, Are you completing on one of the fifty units?
Garreth Fatchett is only interested in obtaining SIPP investors from the list he is seeking from Ames. He knows full well that a viable rescue plan is just not on the cards.
Harlequin will be forced into liquidation shortly.
It should prove very interesting when all goes belly-up since
(with the exception of the D.R.) the Caribbean companies are
chartered in SVG. I should wonder that the legal-eagles of
SVG-BGI-St Lucia are already forming alliances. Are there any
CARICOM laws that come into play. The BIG mystery though
is Dr Ralph Gonsalves, who as an avowed socialist, will be among
the various PM’s “primo inter pares”.
.
I have a question for anyone who is close to Ames. Is he serious about getting things back on track? Does he genuinely think he is going to see better days and avoid liquidation?
Ames has been placed in the corner by the stat demands.
Crozier has done the personal side, Fatchett has done the corporate.
A great pincer movement by the lawyers.
Ames is losing control of events.
The agents in the main are Harlequin owners.
The IFA’s are in the same boat.
Fatchett will go after them all. Make no mistake.
Clients will turn to Fatchett when he offers them the opportunity to get some cash back.
Why cry over them ? They have been very greedy.
Fatchett will be out smarted next week by another set of stat demands by unsecured creditors who are not investors.
Fatchett is not as smart as people give him credit for.
He is quite smart. Went to Cambridge Uni for his notarial qualification.
He seemed quite approachable and friendly when I spoke to him.
He is also supportive of others who are doing different things to him.
It would be interesting if non investors jumped in. At that point, the game will be up.
Who will these mysterious creditors be ?
Or maybe Mr. Fatchett needs some one else to take this down.
I wonder was Gareth at Cambridge when Manderfield was?
Doubt it. She is not a notary, so unlikely.
Mr. Fatchett will get the work either way, if i were him I would sit back and lets it all go tits up, must be better than dealing with the toxic toad and his arse licking solicitors.
Whatever way you look at it. Ames must go. Ames will go. Ames will be removed. Scum pure Scum.
Question – Other than the SIPPs just what can Fatchett do
in the UK? Seems to me BB, Merricks, H-Hotel and Blu are
all SVG companies.
There’s a rumor going round speaking of IFA’s ….. that all is not well with several agents at TailorMade 😉
Agents have turned the tables on Harlequin and TM’s senior management, for a deal.
Recent statements state that TailorMade told agents that Harlequin’s accounts were checked by themselves and the SIPP companies each month………. errrrm What accounts?
The best bit, Alistair Burns has been recorded saying the very same thing at a joint Harlequin and TM ‘road show’
Amazing what people will do when faced with a nasty solicitor.
We have heard the same thing.
Can you blame them?
Being sued and forced into going into bankruptcy, or stiff TM and Ames? They won’t be selling or getting outstanding commission payments….. it’s a no brainer.
No honor among greedy salesmen, mine was big mates with that smoochy Scottish fag Burns.
Ames will go, investors hate the little prick. The finance companies must look at him and think………….. is he on drugs?
It was bound to happen. Attack the agents, one of Mr. Fatchetts finer moves. The loyalty is gone. Lets hope the demise of the Ames family and Simon Terry comes real soon.
Here’s hoping that Terry goes down for as long as Ames.
Most people think little legs is scum, that his wife and family are nothing more then scum. And his trusted lawyer Simon Terry is pure scum. Lets hope they all get sent down.
What does it feel like to have failed in such a spectacular fashion?
Many Blame Dave Ames; it’s that nasty old bitch Carol who is full of piss n vinegar.
She takes so many anti depressants she rattles.
Gary Player in this article claims “it is about giving something back let us all hope he still feels that way when this has gone tits up.
http://garyplayer.com/news/news_detail/harlequin_agent_reserves_first_gary_player_hillside_villa/
@sid, I am really surprised you think Ames is going to give an honest position/answer to anything. He has robbed you all, he could not run a bath never mind a resort. What he can do is set up schemes to part you with your money and he does that well. Financiers will not be looking at Ames thinking he is on drugs, they will look at Ames and think the investors were on drugs. He does not impress. It has always been a mathematical, logistical and practical certainty that this could never remotely work. Amazing how simple it was – CGIs, fancy brochures (ames even says in his terrible speech at the Grove that people were buying brochures), and celeb endorsements, champagne and shows and people were signing cheques and contracts. Never mind location, never mind escrow accounts, never mind whether the resorts could work in their chosen locations, never mind that Ames was a bankrupt, had never run a resort, construction site or development company. A great conman, and you can bet that Simon Terry et al will have burned all their hard drives and anything that can incriminate – so you all need to keep all correspondence.
Anon 10:46 AMEN !!!
Further, that link to Gary Player sums up the misleading ways of Harlequin. ‘One of best beaches in St Lucia’ It is without question one of the worst beaches on the island, and can barely be described as a beach for much of the year. Inaccessible site, awful site for a resort, wrong side of the island, could and would never work. Plus they don’t even own the land as they have not fulfilled their end of the deal.
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Lets be brutally honest SVG is not really a nice place is it?
I love this article where Ames says something like who knows maybe we could be instrumental in making the next Tiger Woods more like the next Bernie Mandolf. lol
http://www.fly-2let.co.uk/news259.html.
I have noticed that if you trawl the net there is still plenty of lies we were told to be found I am sure it will all come in useful so guys lets all start backing these up for future reference.
So much to do so little time.
I have a communication from the ‘The Great One’ regarding my enhancements to Buccament Bay.
Surf Bob,
I need a Masonic lodge built, but with my obvious panache and inevitable style.
This is my vision.
There will be 3 degrees, Diana Ross is the first.
No aprons, white gloves and funny hand shakes.
Nipple clamps,chains & gags etc will be the order of the day
Dominique will be director of ceremonies
It will be a sort of ‘Performing Old farts Academy
I will be referred to as Dave is Magnificent (D.I.M)
Run along…….
@FDNRM, how come you’re suddenly on radio silence?
Forgot, I mentioned my Tailor ‘Fazed’ IFA, last night, I have the whole training process – the lot.
Just to prove here is an extract…….
”A new good reason to contact your clients, sell the concept, the dream.
Interesting back narrative. Alternatives often have a ‘hook’ that grabs the attention of clients. Can be fun! The commission is as you know is a market leader and paid prior to completion”
He is singing like a canary all the way to Cock Spur street…… looks like it’s not only Ames in the Cross Hairs.
Is that shredding I hear in Warrington???
So who will grass who?
Will Ames say,
‘Not me Gov I am a developer never sold anyfin’
Or will TM say
‘ Not me Gov ‘Ames told me to say that’
I suspect Ames will sacrifice them all.
The TM recording will be fun to explain, firmly puts the Network sales director KM in the spot light.
A few more extracts
Most people ‘sleep walk’ into retirement,
They take what is offered! easy picking!
All existing pensions are analysed by TailorMade Independent.
They work on the client’s behalf to ensure that the regulated advice given is in the client’s best interest and your pocket
TailorMade Independent 1.25% Annual Management Charge payable on all SIPPs on millions that’s good all round!
Unlike a traditional pension a SIPP allows you to invest pretty much where you like eg Harlequin.
Ames has 2 options i) make it work and satisfy all investors one way or another; ii) take liability for so many people being in the situation they find themselves in – which they are only in because they believed the promises that were made to them.
The buck has to stop somewhere and it has to be with the business owners and directors. TM will also have to answer for themselves, but Ames knows he could of stopped taking on new investors if he knew he couldn’t honour the commitment.
@Sid: Option 1 cannot possibly happen. Option 2 is based on the premise that he has a moral compass – What do you think?
Harlequin will not be selling anything else. it won’t be allowed to happen,Harlequin as we know it has gone, it is no more.
@icu4wotur, in my opinion, option 2. A moral compass would be nice and would make life easier on everyone, but he will be held accountable whether he puts his hands up or not.
Hi Leaky, then why does he keep sending updates telling everyone things are on track? Why not just face facts?
Ames could not find his own arse let alone a moral compass hence why he blames everyone else for the demise of Harlequin
TAILORMADE INDEPENDENT (IN LIQUIDATION)
I have just had a call from TM advising me they have started liquidation proceedings.
A creditors meeting will be held on 11th October 2013.
RSM Tennon will then be officially appointed.
More information will be sent out by TM
It could not of happened to nicer people 🙂
The best news I have had for a long time break open the champagne
Does that mean TMs Professional Indemnity insurance cover ceases? If it does, it is bad
news for investors who have not started the claim process.
The insurance companies will go for the directors…. keep telling you all Karma an all that 😉
Alistair Burns Aston Martin may have to go, Oh dear the school fees?
@SGD,
Sorry, you are wrong on that point.
Providing you have got your claim in and the insurance company have been notified the claim stands.
If you have dithered and sat on the fence ignored advice from Reg Legal regarding ‘get your claim in’ ( about February 2012 ) its your own fault…. harsh but true.
FSCS is your only choice, and that’s caped at £50k; plus you have to prove the misselling.
The early worm……………
Aston Martin=Hire
TM offices=Rent
House=Partners name
If the TM news is right then Dave has no reason to protect the agents anymore.
Well done TM .
Dave – now is the time to throw those agents into the sea.
Would TM have any legal reason to be doing this i.e. to avoid legal action being taken against them or is this likely to be a purely financial decision?
I imagine that this is just the “property overseas sales arm” ??
and not ALL of TM
TM have jumped before they were pushed.
They worked in a portakabin until they found dodgy investments. Then the sky became the limit.
They have ridden the light fantastic. There have been great times. There have been freebies.
Now they face being unable to continue as advisers. How the smug mighty have fallen.
There will be no sympathy from clients or the TM agents.
What is good is that the door is open for investors to go to the FSCS. This in itself is a result.
The next step in this process will involve other agents falling apart.
Whether Harlequin follows is down to the Statutory Demand holders. They are blocking the finance.
@sid – it is their financial advice company .
eg the crown jewel.
TM are finished.
Is FDNRM’s silence a good sign or a bad sign?
Well I bet the IFA’s won’t be sleeping well tonight, time to go after them personally, if they have a house or a car……. start to worry.
All I think you will find that the authorities have begun their much anticipated move. TM went ahead of the authorities moving in. The liquidation of TM has caught Fatchett by surprise.
Does it matter?
All this means is that if you dilly dallied about, didn’t submit your claim to TM in time you have lost out; especially if your claim is over £50,000.
This may well upset the Government as they will be picking up the tab via the FSCS.
This may well just give the SFO a much needed kick up the arse to move on TM and HP?
Sadly for investors this sorry mess is grinding to a halt. And it is now out of everyone’s hands including Mr. Fatchett. Arrests are imminent.
What a nob: Anonymous
September 18, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Explain.
It’s only the sales arm ) ….. in Warrington.
It’s because of all the negative publicity and the Irish builder, otherwise we would have been selling and reselling units until the cows come home!!
It was a great scam, commission up front, then just sell it again to some other mug.
We all knew the finance was never going to happen.
Ok an arrest is the act of depriving someone of his or her liberty usually in relation to the purported investigation or prevention of a crime.
Imminent as in ready to take place.
Is that explained for you?
TM makes no difference to HP or RL.
Their clients are now limited in their options. Unless they made a complaint before today. Many didn’t because TM tole them not to.
No one knows about SFO on this site. End of.
This is a sign of the end starting properly.
Wait a minute . TM told their clients they were checking the monthly accounts.
That would be a fraudulent misrepresentation. Personal liability time.
Everyone has a leak. Everyone.
Anonymous
September 18, 2013 at 5:14 pm………….. Arrest who?
So, the directors can be sued? I was at a meeting when that Scottish slightly effeminate looking guy said TM checked HP’s accounts – this was in Warrington.
TM are not the only ones feeling the heat. Harlequin’s former accountants have been visited in recent days by the authorities. The demise of TM and the very recent visit by the authorities to WK might very well be connected. Another company paid a visit was Mike Slade and Co. in Rayleigh, Rochford in Essex.
Mr. Ames
We can only like in hope 🙂
Inter company debts……………… Oh Poop
Please explain what that means, I am very worried, is that good or bad?
It is very bad.
Could you please expand?
Meet the team.
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/alistair-burns/2/391/793
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/peter-legerton/27/3b1/67b
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/robertshaw3
Is that sirens I can hear in the distance?
TM have no effect on the intercompany position.
Do not let people nonsense.
Ralph, are you able to shed any light on things?
TM have gone into admin – big deal. They smashed people’s pension and the FSA told them to sort it. They cannot do so. Hence the insolvency procedure. The directors will be attacked for fraudulent misrepresentation as they lied to investors.
It would explain why FDNRM has been so uncharacteristically quiet today (and yesterday in fact).
I’m not putting the boot in, it just seemed strange – and now could seem to make sense.
Could it not take some of the heat of HP if TM are seen as the ones who have been mis-selling? Or will it put them under closer scrutiny?
FDNRM – feeling nervous yet ?
Ralph- feeling marginalised yet ?
@sid
Spot on. HP did not do the selling in the main. Agents did.
Ames will be pleased as this will allow him to focus on the refinancing.
@anon
Why Mike Slade ? He is an accountant.
“I have seen the accounts of Harlequin on a monthly basis” (in a slightly camp Scottish accent). Oh dear
I’ve never been able to understand why there is a sense that Ames could step aside entirely from the “mis-selling by agents” allegation. It was after all, his product that they were selling. Presumably, most of the information that they passed across to their clients, and on which they based their advice, came from Harlequin; ergo the problem was potentially at source (or so they could argue). Clearly they should have done their own DD and risk profiles etc — but Ames is on film characterising it as a very low risk investment. It seems odd that he should be able to bear no responsibility if that proved not to be the case.
Refinancing amongst all of this seems rather fanciful – the idea that the way would be paved because those who had previously sold the product had been forced out of business doesn’t make much sense.
And does TM disappearing not take away one of HP’s largest individual creditors?
TM is a creditor of HMSSE. HMSSE are also in admin.
The Insolvency Act moratorium means the Administrator of TM cannot bring any action against HMSSE.
An exercise in futility.
@sid
Ames did not sign off the stupid pensi0n transfers. He did not say “no” to the money. However, he did not sign them off.
Ames does not have the permissions to do this.
@sid
Tailormade are an agent of the Ames madness. They all have properties on SVG.,
So, this in a roundabout way a good thing?. Ames can give GF the database because they are working on a plan – together.
And the FSCS will payout, would they in turn chase HP like the PI insurance companies may have done??
All a little confusing for me…..
Arh, but they could have been sold more than once, what a laugh it would be if it’s to another IFA company 😉
Dave Ames will be on the blower tonight selling them again…. 50% off for cash – must complete next week.
Timing very good from a restructure perspective.
TM sang the Harlequin mantra, that is, all information TM gave to clients came from Ames and Harlequin directly.
Yes Michael Slade is an accountant but he was also the chief financial officer for Harlequin between June and December 2010. In December 2010 he resigned.
@Flumper. No.
Ralph,
Why did he resign ?
Why should we feel marginalised? We have been very busy. We feel sad however that Fatchett continues to give hope to all investors when he knows full well that a rescue plan cannot be mounted. He also has failed to publish the Report on Buccament Bay.
The Fatchett “Rescue” Plan if that’s what Fatchett wants to call it, could be hugely expensive indeed for investors.
We have no idea why Mr. Slade resigned
@Ralph.
How can you comment and make such statements when you have no idea what’s been discussed between GF and DA?
Could this whole thing be a coordinated by the Mason’s was there not talk ages ago about all of them being in the same club?
@Ralph
Your going to have to wait a little longer for the insolvency you crave.
It is obvious to me.
Ames – Mason
Fatchett – Mason
Walton – Mason
Terry – Mason
Baker – Mason
Paddy O’Riley – None Mason
Erica O’Iron – None Mason
This “gulling” lark is getting out of hand.
Surely not.
Ralph,
Report on BB is coming with Investor Trust bundle. Do not worry.
We will dangle some straws for you to clutch at .
@dogslobber
Are you seriously suggesting Paddy O’Halloran / John / Crozier are all fellated by EB in succession ?
@ 3 rd Degree.
I have a mate who drove me to a meeting in Manchester, he did say Ames, James Baker I think? and some army guy were were defo masons.
they stand funny or somthin and have special words and stuff.
he said ames walks with his left foot first? makes no a sense ro me?
how did yuo now bout em?
@T Cain, it’s true. Ames always walks with his left foot first and often his right foot first. If you watch him closely you will see it for yourself.
@ T Cain.
If you understood the vows, Masons take, in particular, senior Masons you would indeed see that it’s not altogether such a ridiculous theory.
The manner of their preparation gave it away to me.
The method of their entrance.
Left foot down the room right foot across, forming a square.
I noticed Ames wore jewellery when he entered the room. He left and then was divested of all things metal. Seemed a bit odd to me.
How about the fact that Ames had nothing to give in the cause of Charity when he was asked ?
Odd that, because when he returned to the room he then said he would have given freely.
Good point.
I did ask him why he thought the sun could sign in SVG and Basildon at the same time.
He told me that the sun at its meriain could ineed cover the world. Just like freemasonry. I did
Some investors are real numpties. They want RL to pay for them to be bailed out. It is like a benefits dependency job. FFS
I was told he wore a slipper because he had gout
Bro Haw Haw,
There is a report
I was told he wore a pinny as he enjoyed to cook up books. Odd as paper is very flammable
What about Bro B Storey from the Lodge of Stupidity.
Or Bro M Ames who has been appointed Treasurer in the Lodge of Carbon.
Or Bro O’Halloran who has been appointed Tiler in the Lodge of Construction ?
It is so obvious now. How could we have been so stupid ?
All the Trustees will be mason on the new board. So mote I be , I say !
Bro Junior Warden,
What is the first care of every freemason ?
Bretheren,
I rise for the first time to see if ought is proposed for the good of Harlequin generally or this the website of lunacy specifically.
Bretheren,
Nothing remains but to lock up our secrets uniting in the act of fidelity fidelity fidelity…
Royal Arch – Seven Capital – Jim Baker
Eleventh degree – Scottish Rite – Alistair Burns TM & James Cannon
Rose Croix – Walton
Fatchett – Grand Lodge office
Ames – Holy Royal Arch
Trustee Board = Fellow Brethren.
Happy to meet……..Sorry to part……
given all the posts, I think anybody that is a mason should remeber the vows not to disclose and of their secrets….not a lot of houring that solomn pledge here
heureux de rencontrer à nouveau
Brethren brethren all.
So mote it be.
Enough slipshod behavior.
.
http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/the-12-masonic-signs-of-recognition
If you meet the named ones check these signals out
Masons also go to jail …so mote it be.
Name me one high profile mason in jail?
@ Ralph, are you one of these masons?
http://www.ftadviser.com/2013/09/18/pensions/sipps/ombudsman-backs-standard-life-over-esoteric-sipp-investment-QfV9AH95MDDQPPRiSmSp5I/article-0.html
Is this meant to scare people? Because its totally irrelevant. Next Worried investor will be on here moaning like the old hag she is.
So Ralph has jumped ship to the R Legal forum where nobody knows they’re full of sh*t!
You mean Eralfp 😉
http://www.ftadviser.com/2013/09/19/investments/alternative-investments/harlequin-distributor-s-advisory-arm-goes-into-liquidation-cjmUJUbR31K40B6BQ79QuJ/article.html
‘Ralph’ is Erica Broughton and a couple of misguided followers from her really silly forum, (before she lost the plot and started imagining all manner of things).
EB has been peddling her wares to anyone who will give her the attention she so badly craves.
Constant contact with ‘the Irish builder’ and his cronies, they play her like the proverbial fiddle, it’s tragic really.
EB has no interest in Harlequin working. She want’s it to fail and take the Ames family down with it. ‘The Irish builder’ needs it to fail, then he won’t have to pay any damages.
EB also want’s the impossible.
Ames out, Harlequin to fail, refunds given, 10% returns – all the things we were promised.
It’s a little conflicted and pie in the sky.
By now unless you are a half-witted moron Harlequin is on the edge of liquidation and you will face certain loss of most of your investments.
With TailMade going into liquidation, another avenue has been cut off for redress claims.
It’s time to decide what you want………
bet there are a few people kicking themselves they never got the claim in @ Talor made? don’t worry all is well mate…… yeah honest.
Scum all the greedy ba**ards
Evening all. We would like to clarify the following we are not Erica Broughton and we are not Newman.
We have an issue with the way Fatshit is dealing with this fiasco. We are also bemused by the way Paul Walton seems to have hijacked the Harlequin Investor Group forum. Walton claims to have had his money back? Yet is driving on with his support for Gareth Fatshit.
Is that why it’s so quiet on here, everyone’s jumped onto the HIG forum? is that the RL forum or is the HIG one separate?
And I recall somebody mentioning that Fatchett had a forum just for his clients. Is that true?
GF has tried to rail road this trust through. The RL Harlequin investment forum and the answers provided by RL are rather bizarre.
For example RL stated 2 weeks ago the “TRUST” would not include the 50 units being completed on, now they claim they are included.
GF has been offered credible information which will demonstrate that Harlequin double sold properties, but he has decided not to pursue this just yet.
GF has been given information which would suggest at the very least that Harlequin were operating in an illegal manner yet he has failed to acknowledge this.
GF has recent court documents which demonstrate that Harlequin units were sold in an illegal manner, he is fully aware of what is contained in the court documents but again has failed to acknowledge this fact.
What the rest of the world does not know will not hurt them we suppose.
Now we also know that GF is in regular contact with Grant Thornton, a company that has made no secret about the fact that it is their “off the record” belief that Harlequin and Ames have acted in an illegal manner.
Yet GF will not comment on this, merely stating that everything on BFB and this and other forums is just wild speculation.
Well GF, you stated that you would seek to get Stat Demands in the Dominican Republic despite have previously been advised that this was impossible.
You stated that you would enforce Stat Demands in St. Vincent even though you were advised by Williams and Williams that this could not happen because of Government interference.
You claim you have negotiated a trust with Ames, but this trust apparently will only be open to your clients, yet Ames stated that all Buccament Bay investors will be invited to join the trust. Is Ames saying that investors will be invited (subject to a fee of course) to become clients of yours. How bizarre. How truly bizarre.
Who is going to run the trust? Paul Walton and his friend Richard Ingham?
GF you have stated that you will provide full details of this “Security” package by tomorrow evening. Ok we will wait.
Sid RL posted a link on the Harlequin Investors forum stating that RL had set up a forum and RL provided a link to the forum which brought you right back to Harlequininvestment Forum which now appears to be run by Paul Walton.
RL then responded to worried investor last night pooh poohing the suggestion that they had set up a separate forum.
Odd behaviour.
So predictable 🙂
Someone asked a difficult question of Erica on the RL blog (so, so sorry worried investor) and all this hot air happens – no content.
Boring boring boring.
Ericaralph – what happened to all the documents you were promising to up load?
JP Morgan Chase got themselves in some hot water today. Incidentally this is the same bank Ames was crowing about claiming to have had a meeting with the senior executives of that bank last week.
How long more will investors tolerate this bullshit. Seriously?
Ask Fatshit he has them all.
Thanks Ralph. So am I right in thinking that the only active forums are this one and HIG i.e. http://harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk/?
What your bullshit, Ericaralph?
Who is your ghost writer?
@Sid,
Don’t you think if Ralph knew about the ‘other site’ he would post it.
The only blog is the one you mentioned.
I think Richard Ingham would be perfect for the job
@ Ralph has many guises.
For quite some time we were Newman now we are Erica. We are neither. But heh carry on with attacking any and everyone you feel you believe is Ralph.
Gareth Fatshit, Simon unethical Terry and Dave Ameless know what information we have, it really does bother them that we have it. And Fatshitt you should be concerned.
We have a huge amount of information and YES we have given it ALL to the authorities.
Its not our fault nor is it our problem that Fatshit is miss leading investors and giving them false hope.
That’s HIS problem.
Sid as far as we are aware yes. And RL confirmed last night that they do not have a separate forum.
As you can Sid we are rattling the cage of Ameless and Fatshit.
And we are quiet happy to do so. And we will continue to do so until such time as either a decent transparent and credible “Rescue” plan is offered to all investors or Ameless and his companies are liquidated.
Ralph, the only thing you are succeeding in; is making Erica look more stupid than normal.
She runs round and round.
Her website(defunked), the other blog (defunked), BFP ( shamed off), RL blog (as worried investor) and on it goes.
She even wrote to Obama for Christs sake! The woman is ill.
I hope she does not return to the more intellectual blog 😉
Well what a surprise. Erica, sorry “worried Investor” has been advised not to post any more on th RL site by her “legal advisors” and suddenly ” Ralphy is climbing all over BFP again. Funny I didn’t see anything about DA crowing about JP Morgan Chase. Perhaps someone has a tape recording from Simon Terry.
To all –Team Ralph seems to act in mysterious ways, but I
for one remain something of a believer..oh will this ever end!!!
I have just been told of an unconfirmed rumor that because of Ralph the whole Ames family have confessed, so scared of this all powerful one.
GF has been has been found guilty of the most awful crime imaginable; trying to help clients – imagine that!
Erica, go and boil your fat head
Nice FDNRM nice. You were calling Ralph Jeremy for weeks but now Ralph is Erica. I take it you are still Bob Story, Harlequin apologist, mouth piece for a fraudster. What a repulsive way to make a living.
@Anon, I suggest you read RL site. You might be a bit more informed. That last post was not me by the way. We all know that Ralph is more than one person, and we know who they are.
@Bobby — Prove It !
All,
If anyone wants to come to our office and talk to us about issues relevant to Harlequin, please feel free.
We struggle to deal with anonymous people.
@ Ralph’s you are of no importance and you just hate that.
All you have done is got bits of information about Harlequin from other equally obsessive nutters, come up with a ‘name’ but achieved nothing – because you know nothing.
You can’t keep that dangerous woman on a short enough leash, she open her big fat gob and makes you all look desperate and pathetic.
Anyhow, how is the Irish thief??
Ralph as far as the investor trust goes do you think I would put myselfbusiness forward to be shot down by people who can do nothing but criticise and probably have a website created by Erica trying to destroy your livelihood? So dont worry about me and the trust – Count me out!
After reading this blog since Mar/Apr the only thing that I am
certain about is that David Ames is a fraudster/Ponzi artist and
that the English are truly eccentric.
Lol you guys really don’t get it. We are not Newman nor Erica. One of the many on here more stupid then normal is Bob. Lol.
Now we really could not give a monkeys what a few wholly unintelligent supporters of Harlequin and Ameless have to say on the topic as they masquerade as human life forms.
What we can safely say is that Ameless and his wife and son will soon have no more say in matters pertaining to the future of Harlequin.
What we can also say with absolute 100% confidence is that Fatshit is not the only one with Stat demands. Oh yes he knows about the others. So quickly quickly pay him, because very shortly, we would guess about a week, these Stat demands we are referring to will be served.
See there are many many unsecured creditors who are not investors, who are owed money and have already taken legal action, with judgements due tomorrow. (Or should we say confirmation that Ameless did not pay as previously ordered) Yes Fatshit knows about all this.
But Fatshit honestly believes that Ameless is also a victim in all this.
Tomorrow Fatshit is going to “UPDATE” investors as to the “mechanism and time scales’ for setting up the trust.
This might be of interest to those who truly believe that Fatshit will save the day, but we already know that it will be short on hard facts and will not give any indication as to the cost of setting up the trust to each investor.
But lets see what tomorrow brings shall we. It is irrelevant in the over all scheme of things. Fatshit knows that his plans for a trust will be challenged down along the line.
But by then he will have taken investors cash and blamed someone else for the failure of the trust as a result of the liquidation.
Remember Fatshit knows the trust will be challenged and probably successfully by any IP. But what can.Fatshit do? He bet on the fact that Harlequin had 10’s of millions stashed away and now reality is dawning on him that this is not the.case.
@TS You are a funny character lol. You have no idea who we are and therefore no idea what we know.
You are fully entitled to tell the masses on here who you think we are or what we know.
On the latter point only time will tell. We are very happy with the information we have on Harlequin. 100% confidant on the issue of double selling. We know that there are massive problems associated with the SIPP contracts.
We know all about the issues pertaining to land ownership. The bribes, the forged completion sheets, the other forgeries etc etc etc.
We are very happy that the information provided to the authorities is pretty damn convincing.
And at the end of the day it will be they who ultimately decide Amless’s families faith.
As for Fatshits offer to anyone to call in for a chat and impart information, any information passed onto Fatshit will of course be kept in the strictest of confidence and passed onto Simon Terry in the same manner. Ie in the Strictest of Confidence.
Dear Mr. Walton a few weeks ago we asked about the report you undertook at Buccamemt Bay. We have 1 question on this given that the report has to date not surfaced, were you the reports only author or contributor? See we know the answer to this, and it was not the answer you gave previously.
@TS We don’t know how the “Irish Thief” is, nor do we know who you are referring to, but we are fully aware of the identity of the Basildon Bandit. Ames and his family ( Scum).
And as for the Ames family being cowards, hmmmmmmm yup they are and bullies.
What is totally bizarre here is you have Walton being the hero with RL. You have TS and Bob and A N Other attacking Mrs Broughton, but TS and Bob have never once given their views on Ameless, despite all the negative publicity being generated by that dysfunctional family.
Instead Bob and TS feel it necessary to bully and intimidate who they see as worthless scum and a threat to Harlequin.
Harlequin is finished my friends and so too are the wholly dysfunctional Amless family.
Look up the meaning of Harlequin. ….a clown . The whole thing is a joke ! Investors…just have a good laugh , like DA and family .
Dear Mr., Miss; Mrs., Ms., Ralph(s)
I simply don’t have time to answer your question on the report.
I have been far too busy, meeting Richard Ingham in Miami, David Campion in Barbados, then rushing over to have dinner with Dave Ames at Buccament Bay; whilst enjoying the free holiday Harlequin apparently paid for.
In my spare time, I’m engaging in some unnatural sexual relationship with BOTH Gareth Fatchett and Dave Ames!!
When I do get a spare moment. I like to hijack the Reg Legal blog and play ‘hero’ with Gareth whilst being a high-ranking Freemason.
Furthermore, I need to prepare because I will be apparently on the ‘trust’ with Richard Ingham.
Anyway, Ralph(s) why are you so concerned about the report?
You did mention you had someone at BB taking pictures and doing a report for yourselves?
Anyway, what do I know, I apparently IMPORT Chinese wallpaper?
Last time I checked we work as a sales agent supplying around 30 counties have never imported a single roll of wallpaper to the UK;
I wonder how you could have been given such incorrect information and by whom?
Must go very busy busy 😉
well here we are, today Mr Fatchett will announce the detail of the rescue and restructure ( I am informed ) . Whether this will benefit the great unwashed or just the chosen few remains to be seen . I will certainly not be committing to the plan untilI have taken independent advice which is no disrespect to Mr F just a mark of my enduring distrust of anything Ames related .
Ralph talking a load of sh*t yet again. This is embarrassing to read now. It’s like watching Eddie The Eel swim the channel!
Just stfu and get on with your worthless life, you pathetic tool.
“Oooh, we have this! And that!”
Nobody cares, you’ve been exposed far too many times.
It looks like I’ m getting right up Ralphs nose again. GOOD. Always a good sign when the personal insults start again. Question for you Ralph, if I’m such a no mark why do you feel the need to comment about me? And if you insist you are not Newman and Broughton, why do you fee l the need to deny it? If you do not give a monkeys about others on here, why do you feel the need to comment about others? Bully mrs Broughton? Do you mean asking her questions when she said she would “answe all questions put to her” if you want bullying how about publicising my personal details on here to try and intimidate me? Now whose the scum.
Anyone with an ounce of common know’s Ericaralfs game.
Erica Broughton irons out the creases in Paudie’s and Newman’s grubby arseholes with her grey cow tongue.
Everybody knows Ames’s game.
Erica grabs daughter Steph and shoves her cow tongue down her throat causing her to vomit into Erica’s mouth – she swallows with gusto and smiles showing her single green tooth. The watching Paudie and Newman ferociously tug at eachothers flaccid weeping maggots as Erica and Steph begin to 69 like a manatee wrestling a walrus.
@Ralph, how many times can you cry ‘Wolf’
You now have the same credibility as Mrs Broughton
@Lord Haw Haw. What would you like is to do ? We made a decision to pass all the information on to the authorities. What would you like us to produce? We will see then what we can make public given that we have passed our findings to the authorities.
@Ralph, make yourselves public. If you are not Newman/Erica then you have nothing to loose have you.
@ Ralph,
All you have is talk, no proof, an old out of date spread sheet is hardly enough for a conviction. I just don’t believe your hype anymore, and you talk or RL giving false hope……
Your just vindictive.
That is not a good sign.
Dear all, if “What a load of bull” is indicative of those who support Harlequin and the Ames family then sadly our investments were always at risk.
Those comments are a sad reflection of us as UK citizens.
It seems to me that Harlequin’s supporters best form of defence is to stupidly attack others with absolute nonsense. It really does nothing except fill up the thread with rubbish. It certainly gives us no confidence in Ames or his senior staff that any thing can be rescued from this.
We are clinging onto hope that our hard earned money invested in Harlequin can in some way be saved.
The thief is financing the operation, Erica would do it for nothing, not the ghost writer.
Where is Worried investor? must have gone on a pie eating binge.
Well said Anon@9.18
At least the Irish thief is funding something which is more then what can be said about Mr and Mrs Ames. All that pair of thieves are doing is funding first class flights to Australia and The US. Oh yeah and building a nice little house in the Grenadines. And taking money from Hotel Blu.
Dear all,
if ”Ralph” is indicative of those who want to destroy Harlequin and the Ames family then; sadly our investment.
Those comments are a sad reflection of us as UK citizens.
It seems to me that Anti HP supporters best form of defense is to stupidly attack others with absolute nonsense.
It really does nothing except fill up the thread with rubbish. It certainly gives us no confidence in Ralph his senior staff they don’t want any thing to be rescued from this.
We are clinging onto hope that our hard earned money invested in Harlequin can in some way be saved, that’s the only choice we have so why not try?
‘A ‘level’ playing field.
September 20, 2013 at 9:34 am
Well done!!
All of this is irrelevant.
it matter not one jot.
It’s puerile.
For the less academically gifted; I will make it simple.
Regulatory Legal or Liquidation decide.
How original. Harlequin supporters are doing just what Anonymous referred to.
Just clogging up the thread with non sense. Meanwhile most of us who are not SIPP investors have lost most if not all.
So who do I blame for this, can someone on here tell me how and why this happened? Please.
Anon.
September 20, 2013 at 9:47 am
To be brutal, because we were stupid and greedy. Ames is incompetent.
Bottom line people.
When we get the RL update read it and make a choice.
1. do nothing
2. support it
Take alternative advice if you wish, but most investors deep down know they have little choice, but to accept.
simple.
@ Ralph.
Any other great plans? how much is you IP in Lundun going to give you as a kick back? 😉
all crap, you have been out done.
Ahh you can all call the woman and her daughter but they have not had your money have they?? stay focused and try to recover what you can out of this mess
no but they want to block any attempt at a rescue, can’t argue with actions.
Do you have any proof??
same proof as fat ralph, big fat zero, but i will ask if i can show the documents lol
more to follow
If there is no proof then possibly Ames has done nothing wrong so why are we all on here and what is Garreth Fatchet trying to Rescue? If Ames has done nothing wrong why don’t we all stop now. And wait for him to get finance. He said he is about to get finance so why not back away, give Ames a chance.
Why not give him a chance?. His vocal.supporters on here might be able to answer this question.
In every business difficulty there are always people who are disparaging of anothers attempts to resolve the problems . In my opinion that does not allow either side to indulge in abuse and offensive behaviour .
If parties can all bring a reasoned argument to the table perhaps we can move along with a form of a solution other than constantly have to work ones way through interminable stupid posts to get to read anything sensible .
Gareth Fatchet is now the only option for those investors who have not appointed / instructed anyone and consequently we should attempt to keep him on side for the duration of the negotiations and not make him wish he had never begun this horror story.
@anon 9.47. Unfortunately, investors have themselves to blame for investing in this without any due dilligence. The business model was more than ridiculous. Ames lied profusely to you via his various agents and glossy brochures, the forecasts and promises were simply not remotely possible, even for the best, most experienced and best funded developer or operator in the world (ames is none of these things – he was broke with zero experience) The locations were very poor, and resorts themselves as designed could only lose fortunes, if they were ever built. No feasibility study could possibly have been done by Ames. The business was very clearly designed to part naive investors with money, and that money first and foremost was to be given to agents, IFAs and the Ames family. As he found more people who could not see through this, he came up with more resorts, random small hotels, just to have more stock to “sell” via outrageous lies and claims about returns. That is what happened, so there cannot be any denial of this. They all got their cash out first before even planning permission was in place, or land owned. Shocking, fraudulent, illegal, and transparently against the interests of the investors. So, again, investors should have seen through this and not invested, but Ames set this business up to lure you in and steal your money. The reality provides all the proof you need, up to you all to decide what to do about Ames now. Sadly, investment is all gone, a few cents in the dollar at the very best is the likely outcome, but wish you well if you can get more.
if you dont give it a chance you pillock it all over, i don’t like it but we are f***ked without it..
I note fat ralph has not sensible rescue plan, fat ralph is full of shit. at least fatchett is a trained solicitor – not some old scrubber woman
@ Ralph where is your report, the one with the pictures going back to 2010, don’t tell me, it’s with the authorities and you will have to ask permission..
Should Ames not have been arrested by now?
Even you must admit you look a bit of a cock, you and Broughton don’r fool anyone.
Paying his moronic followers to try to bring HP down and cripple any chance of a rescue plan – that’s what Ralph is about – damaging you investment.
Stupid fat cow
I really do not care about the Broughton all I know is you are ruining our investment and if this is how the “investor trust” operate I want nothing to do with it.This is not how a legitimate business behaves
Ralph is now thinking how to stop the less literate one from writing anything else. The RL site has thankfully been spared since Thursdays deluge of drivel.
The only people who are damaging the investment is David Ames and his cronies posting your vile rubbish on here. You really think people want to keep their investment with people like that?
what gets my goat is a group of arrogant arse holes like ralph, telling me what to do, but worse they are trying to foce the issues for the benefits of someone who stolem from us.
i think ames is a shit and a conman, the irish bloke is scum, ralph little beter.
scare mongering
Bob I think you have proven to everyone that you have no life. I think it is about time you went and got one. Since when did you become admin on the RL site? It’s about time you gave up silver surfing. Your beginning to bore everyone with this crap about the Broughton’s
You hate her because she was right all along she might have gone about it the wrong way but she was right
I just wish I had heard her shouting from the rooftops five long years ago,
I am guessing you all do to
This is all very odd indeed.
We have a solicitor who could assist in a potential rescue – yes?
We have a solicitor who help people with redress claims – yes?
If a rescue plan is not forthcoming then its goodbye to you money.
So, why are you all fighting????
Dave is my life
Folks we are waiting the news this evening from Mr. Fatchett. If he comes up with a viable, workable plan for all, fantastic. We will most definitely support it. If however the plan is more of the same cock waffle, then we will begin to publish the documents we have.
So the ball is firmly in Mr. Fatchett’s court.
Neville,
I have never posted on here before but I am sick of Harlequin trolls
this has ruined my life
@Jules go to the reg legal site its not so silly providing worriedinvestor and I lostmyhome ( the only two who have silly names) are not trolling about.
The only people who are responsible for all our losses are the Ames family. Ames blames everyone else and we like sheep tend to follow suit.
It is Ames who has brought is to where we are. It is Ames and his family that took our money.
We are quick to chastise others, to attack them.
How many investors lied on the forms when applying for mortgages to get the deposit money for Ames.?
Is that not fraud.?
Who arranged and assisted investors in doing this. ? Ames did.
And what will happen this bunch of mortgage investors, they will loose everything.
Mr..Walton said as much.
We were shown glossy brochures, told about huge returns, given commitments and promises, etc etc etc, All by the Ames family.
Yes Ames has a lot to answer for, too much in fact.
However, we did decide to invest and not do any DD, an internet search or legal advice would have been enough.
Yes, that is mortgage fraud, but again they did sign it, and not read it properly.
If people don’t pay the secured loan, yes they could loose the house.
However,lenders will listen and be accommodating, more often than not they don’t force a sale of the property.
Maybe RL could help on this for a small fee?
@ Ralph, turn the record over. Will the ”authorities” let you publish them?
Who to, the few people on BFP 😉 Hardly the Telegraph is it?
I am embarrassed at being a UK citizen. Most of us are UK citizens posting on a Caribbean blog site and demonstrating what a stupid, greedy bunch of people we really are.
We are also an embarrassment by allowing fellow posters be attacked in the most vile and demeaning of manners.
Making sexual inferences about individuals as a way to get our point across is being seen by many as the way we normally behave.
Mr..Ames took our money, of that there is no doubt, what he did with our money afterwards is immaterial now, what he failed spectacularly to do was to give us what he promised. Against this back drop there are those who are vehement in their support of Ames and Harlequin, yet their vile and degrading actions demonstrates not only to me but to the wider community that we invested our money with a bunch of dishonest thugs and bullies.
There is a concerted effort on this site to use foul and abusive mechanisms to degrade and humiliate some who are brave enough to speak out against Harlequin.
FDNRM for example is taking personal vendettas to new extremes. Yet has never once suggested a solution to the problem.
We are all here because of Harlequin, in one way or another.Yet our blogs are seen by the wider world and all we are doing is embarrassing ourselves and demonstrating that we are easily led and swayed by others who hold all the cards.
We are all really at the mercy of Ames, Fatchett, O’Halloran, Newman, and Crozier, we have no idea what any of the above players are willing to do or what actions they are prepared to take.
We can only speculate, but any of the above individually appears to have resources far greater then many of us can dream of mustering.
To all the above this is just business.
To many of us its our life savings and the actions of a few will have a serious impact on our future lives.
Bravo anonymous…..so elegantly and aptly put. As is normal in society, it is the small minority who ‘rule’, in this case spoil what could be a helpful, supportive forum. And it appears the majority of us total close to 6,000. The number who post these vile remarks numbers less than 0.1%. Long live the majority and moral conduct.
Funny how posters on this forum accuse others of being in league with those who oppose Harlequin. We had attacks on individuals claiming they were in bed with the builder and claims that the builder was behind the attacks on Harlequin in order to prevent court cases from going ahead.
Well whilst the usual suspects were running around and indulging in a mindless attack on some. Harlequin and the Irish builder appear to have been working away in the back ground on their own little deal. The FT advisor ran a story on line yesterday on Harlequin and Tailor Made Sipp and have stated that the ongoing court battle over £8.5 million has now been settled in Harlequin’s favour.
I wonder what the terms of the settlement were, how much was paid and most importantly what has Ames done with the cash. Funny but I do not think we will ever find out.
So who will Harlequin supporters now blame for trying to destroy the rescue plan.?
@Anon 2.55 your damm right I have a personal vendetta. You hide behind Annonymous. All my personal details were posted on here, name, address, telephone number, e mail address. Details of my contract ( although incorrect) do you think I’m going to take that shit laying down you idiot? No fucking way.
FDNRM: Temper, temper litlle Bobby. LOL. Ha,Ha, etc etc
You are no longer at the mercy of Ames.
The decision is in the hands of Shipleys, RL and the SFO.
Shipleys because they control HMSSE
RL because they control the Statutory Demands
SFO because they can arrest people
Dear FDNRM, If you have a genuine grievance why not make a report to your local police, why engage in futile and denigrating attacks on those you suspect of having an involvement in publishing your details.
Would it not be better to engage in some form of reasoned debate on the topics being discussed, possibly putting up reasoned and credible counter arguments.
Was it not you who gave details of Mr. Newman out on this forum ? And Mr. MacDonald ?
Is it not a little hypocritical of you to behave in such a manner. ?
Have you proof that Mr. Newman is indeed a contributor to this forum ? Or indeed Mr. MacDonald.?
Were you aware that Harlequin struck a deal with the Irish builder. ?
I know you might be upset or of a sensitive nature and I feel for you.
But two wrongs really do not make a right. Surely we as UK citizens can at least behave in a more decent way. We are investors in foreign countries, and we use blog sites from foreign countries, yet as ambassadors for our country the UK we have really let our selves down.
FDNRM some of your details are publicly available on the RL forum and you appear to have no issue with this. Somehow I think your reasons run much deeper then those stated by you.
I wonder therefore if this might not be the appropriate forum in which to vent your displeasure.
There goes Bob again, calling someone who posted a perfectly reasonable post an idiot. See Bob will attempt to disrupt any forum which may ask probing questions of Harlequin or Mr. Ames.
Bob you are really showing that Harlequin supporters are worthy of the title “Redefining Intelligence and Decorum” in the Caribbean.
Bob Storey’s been bullying Erica and bad mouthing anyone who opposed Harlequin for what seems like years now. It’s only a month or so since Bob was unmasked. Before that time he was conducting his personal vendetta against Erica and anyone who dared to suggest that Ames was anything other than business visionary and demi-god under the anonymous guises of 36, Fatchett Does Not Represent Me and Sporting Man to name but three. Bob Storey is a case study in passive aggression and a thoroughly evil minded and nasty piece of work.
@Anon 5.22 re the police, I did and that stopped the silent telephone calls.re details of Newman/MacDonald, those details were posted AFTER my details were published. There was no point in being anyone else but myself on the RL website after my details were posted on here. RL was my choice, BFP was not.
@Anon, 5.36 “taking vendettas to a new extreme” is perfectly reasonable? I think not. Stupid comment.
@anon 5.40 oh look 3,Annonymous posters. How original is that. 5 weeks not a month. For someone who keeps records of this site, your not very accurate are you.
Bob has indeed engaged in an almost constant attack on Erica and her family adding Jeremy Newman, his wife, Mr. MacDonald and his Mother and then an individual from Wallcrouch amongst others. Yes when he was exposed his manic attacks increased in their veracity.
Bob is a complete hypocrite but will not give up on his relentless campaign of hatred against anyone who dares speak out against Ames or Harlequin. He is sadly not representative of the large majority of investors and his actions on public forums are a complete embarrassment to genuine investors.
@Anon (another one) what a complete exaggerated post above, any “attacks” as you call them are reciprocal to the posting of my personal details. As Anon 5.22 suggested, go to the police, if you dare. Go on DO IT
All,
We welcome sensible debate on our site. We expect the discussions to become more detailed and practical as investors weigh up their options.
We are probably better off ignoring the fool. And lets try and discuss the very important issues.
Has anyone yet received any news on the much awaited RL update on the rescue plan.?
@ Harlequininvestorgroup Please can you tell us where your update on the rescue plan is so we can debate the issues.? We await the details as promised.
Anonymous,
Something is happened as RL were telling us an update is expected tonight via Harlequin.
@Anonymous
The Update in the form of a Harlequin Update and a RL letter is going out tonight to ALL investors. The “opt in” process needs explaining to investors who are interested.
The survey we are running shows us 71% of people would be prepared to vary their arrangement to support a re-finance / re-structure, with 26% with no fixed view. A very small % are against and kind of effort to seek a solution.
The key is informed and educated consent. There will be different views. There will be disagreements. There may be a rejection of the proposals.
However, that is better than a void which is filled with nothing.
@ Harlequininvestorgroup thank you for the update. I wonder could you tell us how many Investors took part in the survey.?
Secondly and we await the Harlequin update of course but surely the update should really come from Regulatory Legal as opposed to Harlequin. It is RL is it not, that are mounting a rescue plan. Having Harlequin update us on a rescue plan which had to be formulated as a result of Harlequin’s miss management does not instil us with much confidence.
@anonymous – Harlequin have the entire investor database. We need it out to everyone without breaching the Data Protection Act.
Survey – just under 400 investors.
Dear Investors
Following on from our announcement last week that Harlequin intends to initially grant security over the common parts of the Buccament Bay Resort (with further security at other Harlequin resort sites to be offered at a later date) to a trust set up on behalf of investors, we write to you with further information on how to become involved in this process and, in doing so, best protect your investment.
This week has been dominated by a series of meetings that follow Harlequin obtaining local law advice in St Vincent & The Grenadines confirming that it is able to grant this security to a trust. While it was initially thought that the trust would only be open to Buccament Bay Resort investors, due to the huge interest in this offering, Harlequin has decided to widen the net and ensure that the trust is open to all investors with a valid contract who haven’t or aren’t in the process of completing on a Harlequin property. While the trust will be an independent entity set up for and on behalf of investors, the security is a Harlequin offering and Harlequin will therefore play an integral role. The key facets of the trust are as follows:
• The proposed trustees are in the process of obtaining professional advice that will provide guidance on the type of trust to be set-up; drafting of the Trust Deed and related legal documentation can then start. It is likely the trust will be set up in the United Kingdom (rather than offshore).
• Five trustees will be appointed to the board of the trust with a majority vote required for key decisions. The intention is to obtain a balanced cross-section of knowledgeable trustees who can assist Harlequin to achieve its goal of development of investment properties.
• The trust will require investors to agree to the conditions set out in the Trust Deed.
• The trust will provide for events where the security can be varied if a proposal is put to the board that will realistically assist investors and Harlequin in achieving their goals.
This is a significant step forward in Harlequin’s restructuring plans and we urge all investors to join together and take action by signing up to help build a more secure future with Harlequin. Harlequin will release more information in the coming weeks but in the meantime invites you to read the attached letter outlining the role of Regulatory Legal Solicitors as a law firm that can provide advice on protecting investors rights within the trust, the mechanics of how the trust will work, and how to opt-in to the proposed independent investor trust.
Sincerely,
Harlequin Hotels & Resorts
Funny old world, ay it ?
Harlequin are in the hands of RL now.
Those stat demands must be making Ames worried.
Dear Ralph,
You need to get the fraud evidence to RL ASAP. Otherwise they might just pull a restructure off.
All,
Look at the use of phrases.
“significant step forward”….
Left foot first I assume.
Ames, Fatchett, Terry …… Brethren all
Fatchett’s brother Walton is the senior brother.
He is dictating play. I bet he is not even an investor.
Bob is not a mason as he denies Fatchett. He would walk step by step if he were.
This is all very surreal. So obvious to me.
Who will the five trustees be ?
Erica, Newman, Paddy, Bob and Crozier !
They will object to everything and each other.
I am sorry to say that this move simply delays the inevitable, buys Ames more time and offers him legitimacy by being part of this trust. Once again, he is using investors’ naivety to get the best possible result for himself and GF is supporting this as he knows there is no other option than liquidation. However, the business makes no sense, two resorts that lose money and a massively insolvent set of companies contracted to build thousands of other properties. It can only end up in liquidation, it really only requires a moderately experienced developer to see this given all the factors involved. Sadly, there appears to not be a development or Caribbean expert among any of the investors or lawyers (remember lawyers are not businessmen) and this trust effort is a giant waste of time and money. You will not get anyone to provide finance, and even if you were able to self finance, there is not a resort planned in this entire charade that could possibly break even in the location and style planned. A trust without Harlequin involved may make a little more sense, but even then is still delaying the inevitable.
This all boils down to a pre-emptive plea bargain that
keeps Ames out of prison. For God’s sake people…pull the plug!
Will the trust have to take on all the costs of maintaining these areas ? So instead of having a monthly income and a property worth some hundred’s of thousands… you actually get a small share of bit of land that has no real value and costs you each month to maintain? I hope I’m wrong ?
Best of a bad job Gareth …. But thanks anyway
I am amazed that some young hot-shot lawyer in SVG has not
jumped in offering his services. From what has been written
here Williams & Williams are too politically connected to the current
government to be of much use. (It is not weird but it is not in the
interest of the current government to high-light their rather suspect
connection to Ames). All in all the proposed -“trust”- is a most
disingenuous. Ultimately just what do those sign on expect to
recover?
The trust is for the common areas of the registered land, the 19.05 acres. The ponds and paths. Basically that’s it folks.
Good man Fatchett. 8 months and this is what we get
. A trust over some paths and ponds,
. The Ames family to play an integral part in the trust.
. A clause built into the trust whereby the trust can be varied to suit the requirements of investors or Harlequin.
. The trust is a Harlequin offering. Not RL.
. Because of legal privilege you have to become a client of RL to join.
. At least 4-6 weeks away from probably a further update.
. Despite Harlequininvestorgroup claiming to have 1100 members, fewer than 400 filled out the on line form. 36% of HIG members responded. 24% of HIG members are to date willing to vary their contracts.
8% of all investors responded.
5.5% of all investors are willing to vary their contracts to date.
It would be interesting to see how many of the investors want Ames to stay in the business. Maybe RL could let us know.
This is not a very strong mandate.
How much does it cost to sign up to the trust ? How much does it cost month on month ? What is hoped to happen to the trust in the long term ? What is the real aim of this strategy? What is it supposed to achieve ?
The Darwin awards are gonna need to increase their number of awards this year…there are 5,950 here (I have allowed for fifty people who can this as what it is (the likes of Sid and Ralph) who automatically qualify for a nomination
This is a scam, you have all lost your money Ames has screwed you. By srpeading the scam across IFA, across multiple small corrupt countries etc etc etc he has pulled off a very clever scam…YES a scam
I say this only once YOU HAVE BEEN HAD
A zombie can see this is a fraud…disgraceful that the SFO have not jumped in yet…YET
A trust that owns ponds and paths, that is open to other people who have paid for units on land not owned, with no planning permission and nearly £400 million GONE This is a rescue package, and a lot of peeps inc GF think this is a deal, there really aint no hope at all for the future of mankind
I would this to all work out…but FFS IT AINT GONNA HAPPEN Lock the bastard and his familly up now (the Ames familly are no better than kiddy fiddlers)
Yep gonna be a lot of peeps in line for a Darwin award
Stop Wait do not drink anymore of the kool-aid!!!
We need to get our act together and work as a team if we do not want this let us go to the authorities and tell them what we do want.
This is our resort paid for with our money it does not belong to the Ames family it belongs to yours,so start to do something about it.Just a thought,
What about asking that CPC woman have they managed resorts like this before?
Masons the lot of them !
You lot are thick. You haven’t even got a full breakdown and you are moaning.
Do you not realise that RL know its broken. They are trying to control the refinance.
Ha ha ha . Collective action. No chance.
I like the part where they say “Harlequin have decided to widen the net”
You can’t make this stuff up ….it’s incredible that anyone with half a brain would believe one single word from them , far less trust them after the total cock ups they have done over the past 6 years or so.
It is beyond comprehension that any rational person who has witnessed events of the last 7 years would enter into a trust involving Harlequin. Genuinely have to be without the ability to make a sensible decision, which unfortunately is what led you to buy from Ames in the first place.
Dear Mr. Fatchett, please explain!!!!!
Shall we all forget it and await the liquidators ?
Security (however limited) or being an unsecured creditor. The choice is yours.
Ralph,
You do not need to worry about your objectives. Investors are so dumb they will simply moan.
While you all cackle like old hags waiting for Ames to be tried and hung, your investments will go down the pan.
Ames will not win. Neither will you.
Bob / FDNRM (although by proxy Fatchett does now represent Bob) cannot control the stupid, ignorant masses who care more for Ames being hung than protecting their own money.
The Ralph win will be by default.
If I was Fatchett i would tell you all to F**k off, let it go tits up, then you miserable bunch of ungrateful w4ankers will come crawling back for the FSCS claims
Lets just liquidate it, that’s what fat bitch Broughton is after, then you all will have something proper to moan about, when you are still paying your mortgage in ten years time for nothing.
Will that make you all happy?
Agreed.
Fatchet has put lots of work to get this far, and all you lot do it moan and expect something for nothing.Tossers
The security is better than nothing, and nothing is what we have now.
Any level of control, the possibility of finance, and or new management is clearly a good thing – that is of course you want it to fail.
Some investors are really stupid.
if Ralph / Broughton etc. carry on their campaign and I loose my cash investment I will divert my time, money and resources into a very similar ‘expose’ into every facet of their lives – past and present……….
Simple.
Get security, replace Ames, get fiance, FSCS cliams or PI.
give it a go, if it fails it goes bust.
I don’t subscribe to the over simplistic notion that any security is better than no security. The proposed security is worth very little, will be expensive to obtain and difficult to realise. In fact the act of calling in the security may lead to significant liabilities, for example, if the condition of the common areas falls in to disrepair, which is a distinct possibility. People need to accept that the project has failed and that the situation is irretrievable, save for professional negligence claims against the degenerate advisers who served to facilitate this shambles. There seems little point in paying more money to kick the can down the street. Reculer pour meux sauter.
Bob/FDNRM (although by proxy Fatchett does represent Bob) big ? There my son.
@becareful what etc….obvious to see how easy it was for Ames to suck you into the scam…….it will liquidate and you will lose all your cash….it is as simple as that
what two words are commonly said to describe a group of 5,995 totaly stupid people…..errrrrrrr
Harlequin Investors
I can’t believe you people keep using the word investment. And worse, think your ‘investment’ can be saved. It was a get rich quick scam for Ames, he got rich quick, the money is gone.
This latest plan is laughable. The 6000 properties will never be built, so instead of a holiday home you’re being offered 1/6000th of a share of some mosquito infested ponds. perhaps Mr Lars can give us an idea of the price per sq foot in St Vincent, which should give you an idea of what your ‘investment’ is worth.
You’re being led along with a carrot on a stick, with the promise of green pastures just over the next barren hill. And like a donkey you’ll soon discover there is no pasture, you’ve been used for someone elses personal gain and to add insult to injury, it isn’t even a carrot Ames is dangling. He can’t afford one, Its just a stick painted orange.
Perhaps the next letter to “Dear Investors” should instead start “Dear Suckers”.At least the content would then be believable.
Whatever the outcomes GAreth has tried to assist .Others chose different routes . One thing shines clear the investors have lost the trust in Ames and for any operation to succeed in any form Ames must agree to go.
A professional team with a resort management history need to be found and the cash investors must be prepared to put in more money.
The days of spoon feeding are over we need to step up to the plate and be adults , we have chances but we need to do some serious growing up and realise the deal we may get will not be the deal we bought into . That’s life in the big world
The fat stupid one aka Broughton aka Ralph aka worriedinvestor etc has only one aim, to keep O’ Halloran happy – that means liquidation.
She is as blind and gullible as FDNRM .
The Broughtons equal Mr and Mrs Smith international spies who’s mission has been to take Ames Baby lets all expose them we can all then claim refunds from the British government.
One thing is certain she aint no Angelina an he aint no Brad
@ Gareths fan club.
I agree but for some getting free advice from an approachable solicitor is just not enough!
He should pay for the survey, do free legal fees, take lots of shit, meet that odious little crook all for nothing 😉
All the nay slayers, go and find another solictor – see what they will charge and the come back and have a moan.
Gullible is that the same as gulling?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder …….in essence intelligent people will now focus on options , dickheads will focus on weight watchers losses this week .
Threats and idiots have no place in my adult investor world so can you respectfully fuck off now .
Next weeks post bag:
1. Letter from Tennon TM have gone bust circa 1500 HP investors
2. Letter from Aimes, ooops I have no money
What a mess, imagine the less intelligent investors filling in the complex FSCS forms,
Yes I did commit mortgage fraud, but its not fair I want my money back – I was just greedy and now that nasty Mr Fatchips wants me to pay him, the bloody cheek.
Walton in a mason have you seen his ring? my Dad has one and it swivels round showing some symbol on the back – w4nker the lot of em
forgot, the fees for being a mason run into £1000’s i think they have to give a % of all the money to each other. they must help each other out or they all gang up on you and then you getting banned and and that. that explains why he attacked ames then got his money back and now seems tobe helping him out.
ames is a manson aa well all solicitor are masons
Meanwhile, back on planet earth £400 million is still missing.
@ Ralph, anymore news on all those important documents you were going to upload? Did all the authorities give you permission?
Has President Obama replied to you yet?
Bobit, what’s your thoughts on the plan? Will you be changing your name?
Dear Fellow investors,
You need to make your mind up.
Put your feelings about Ames to one side, ask the question do you want to rescue YOUR investment?
If you do get the Reg Legal pack, read it; then decide.
@ Ralph where is your report?
I know its totally you Richard thats behind all these posts and what you are doing to try and discredit me it wont work. I am an honest nice person. Ames had the money and FDNRM is your mate you sicko.both sicko’s
it will all be over soon and not before time, we know whats been going on and you have all been meeting up planning. BB is just a sewerage plant
FDNRM is a lowlife at the same level as you. i know and will prove what you are upto its a disgrace the things you will do for money with you little bum boy walton and all your disgusting vile post you horrible excuse for a man i have ever come across. the truth will prosper and you are a vile nasty man
A guy defrauds you. Your lawyer then sits in a friendly manner with the fraudster to work out how to secure a fraction of your money. The fraudster is laughing at you all.
Gareth’s fan club
September 21, 2013 at 3:33 pm
With you on that one. Fatchett is doing the best with the crap hand he has been dealt. I would tell investors take it or leave it.
Whats your plan plonker ? Anonymous arse
@Ralph, what’s your plan now.
Let me guess its all with the authorities and Ames will be arrested 😉
Wigan has run out of pie’s there has been a splurge in comfort eating
To be fair, those in this mess were stupid enough to invest in the first place, so not surprising they cannot see the reality now, as they believed total fantasy originally from an obvious fraud. Understand the straw clutching going on now, however wasting energy and money. Move on, it has gone, you have been had. Only way you will ever recover funds is to liquidate what is there, or file claims via other channels depending on how you gave Ames your money in first place. And ensure authorities deter others fraudsters from doing this again to others.
What the flumper whumper has been let out the looney bin?
@Erica,
1) I have never met Richard Ingham or Paul Walton.
2)are you ready to answer any questions as you are an honest open person?
3)have you passed your last rant through your legal team?
4)if you think I am a vile nasty man then I will take that as a compliment. “Honest nice people” don’t publish personal details like you did, do they.
Why hide behind ” worried investor” Erica, we all know who you are. You just want to bring DA down, it’s your own personal Jihad.
In fairness to Erica she has succeeded Ames is down and soon to be out. Once the new team is in place there is no place for him.
The lawyers (all of them) have done the investors proud ….. Bit of appreciation would be nice especially for Gareth who did a sterling job.
You can’t polish a turd. You’ve been had, and if you’re happy with a share of some ponds then you’re just the kind of unsophisticated investors Ames was targeting.
By the way I have a bridge for sale, its near the tower of London………
A number of Stat demands are being served on Harlequin on Tuesday. Mr. Fatchett has been the most public of solicitors but represents less then 10% of purchasers. It will only take a small number of claims to tip this into the abyss.
There is also a very big problem with the completions. In order to tick all the legal boxes in SVG a valuation has to be undertaken in order to allow the completions take place. Mr. Fatchett has stated that Harlequin cannot afford to carry out this or any valuation. Now investors are being asked to pay for this.
Harlequin is insolvent. Mr. Fatchett has not yet obtained a valid mandate from investors.
Mr. Fatchett has stated that it is his Stat. demands which are preventing financiers from coming on board. However prior to Mr. Fatchett and the Stat. demands Harlequin tried but failed to obtain finance.
This was also before the SFO / FSA, FCA / Essex Police probe. Anyone who honestly believes that financiers will come on board against this back drop need to be certified.
Harlequin owe millions in Barbados and until this debt is paid no one will get their paws on Merricks or Hotel Blu.
Landowners in St. Lucia are enforcing contracts they signed with Harlequin and are retaking land they sold to Harlequin.
Assets are being dissipated. The aircraft in Antigua are about to be seized in lieu of debts owed in that country. The aircraft engine and hull insurances have lapsed and the aircraft have not been maintained in recent months.
Whilst all this is going on Mr. and Mrs. Ames are having a home built for them in the Grenadine Islands off St. Vincent.
It is remarkable that none of the 5000 or so investors have not gone after Ames personally. He is the sole owner/director of the company “investors” contracted with. He has broken so many laws as a company director, breached so many contractual requirements, before you even begin to mention fraudulent misrepresentation, purchasers should have been going after him personally long ago if he had not fulfilled the terms of the agreement to refund money. Instead, he travels the world first class on the money you gave him, builds properties for himself and lives the high life still. His wife and kids all live well now. On your money.
Get with the programme , that was done months ago by a different group.
Hannah ….. Shut up or we will have another night of FDNRM banging on
Sorry Hannay
If DA is truly building on one of the Grenadines it would be
interesting to know if any of the missing building materials from
Buccament can be accounted for. Also fascinating to here that
he has finally found a contractor that he is happy with…just saying
I think Walton is a big fat Freemason who bums David Ames because he got a free holiday
Where is he building? I know he went to Mustique a couple of times. Is it there?
Anonymous
September 21, 2013 at 7:04 pm
You know Ralf your such a lump of nob cheese. grow a a pair instead of hiding behind anon – sad old fat toss pot
SGD
it’s just smoke and mirrors, having a laff at your expence.
SGD – Some months ago someone posted here that Ames had
purchased a small barren waterless island somewhere near
Mustique.
ps. Can you imagine him welcomed on Mustique?
Ames has purchased a shag fest pad for him and his ‘Dom’ in Barbados it funny we all see the fat old fool sneekin round – he got a floppyone he no manmeat
ay Ames is the Richard Branson of SVG $1 million to Gonzo he do anyfin he want, he do the diggle wiv local cash for gash
There goes the neighborhood !
“Gonzo”…..love it !!!
Matt Ames is partial to a bit of ‘Local’ stuff when his wife has gone home, but he prefers the tradesman entrance.
We heard Bequia, but it cant be confirmed. He will get the builder to build it, then when its 70% complete he will sue the builder and claim that this is further justification as to why he cant complete his resorts.
Why would we hide behind Anonymous? We are “Ralph” not Ralf and we are anonymous just like everyone else on here. Lol
We have the photographic evidence of all the Ames sexual activities, they are not the only ones who can hire PI’s
We have pictures of ‘Gonzo’ having a gobble.
Ralph —You go girl (?) !!!
Hi Ralphs lol. If we were Bob we would say that is not us, but heh this is an anonymous site so who really cares, keep gobbling, it ain’t gonna make a darn bit of difference. Ames is finished and the trust ain’t gonna work. Liquidation its the only way.
Ralph, put up or shut up.
Apparently you have everything, but we can’t see it. If we don’t see it,we don’t believe it.
Use your pedophile’s file sharing site and prove it, otherwise crawl back into your hole. You have nothing.
Not only does Ralph have nothing….neither do “Investors”…nothing….no returns, no interest payments, no titles to anything. Ames has it all. Now he is offering to be part of a Trust administered by Harlequin of common areas of the resort .insane! It’s sad that the authorities have let so many innocent people be screwed by a twice bankrupt ignoramus .
@ Ralph,
what about the ‘proof?’ the ames arrest, the documents worriedinvester was ‘asking’ for permission to upload the on the RL site?
you are truly pathetic
Lets move off the subject of no proof Ralf he/she/it is unimportant.
What about in the light of no other options – the security and rescue plan, or are we just going to carry on like a bunch of fish wifes
I am happy to see Worried investor and I lot my home have stopped trying to disrupt the RL blog with their inane repetitive boorish comments.
Sad nasty deluded people
Ralph did not take our 400 million Ames and his wife did. So why the hell should we rescue them? Because that is what the rescue plan is. An Ames rescue.
investors will get the RL info pack. They can then make up their minds.
The stat demand holders block Ames. So if the answer is “no” then it is over.
It’s been over for years. People want proof? Where are the 6000 unstarted units?
Anon
September 22, 2013 at 11:09 am
You idiot I am trying to rescue MY investment you imbalanced brain.
Ames is going top be dealt with later..
@ Decision Time
Some common sense at last.
I see Ralph is quite must be busy uploading all that proof and years of reports and pictures.
Pity nobody gives a shit about him now.
You lot are dumb.
If you don’t support HP to get finance, you have lost all your money.
So, get the information pack from RL have a look then decide if you want to try and save something, or put it down, kill it off.
Doing nothing is the same as pressing the self destruct button
Sorry D and B, but I think you are dreaming if you think financing is possible. Has noone here raised finance before? How can you get finance for a set of companies that are so insolvent? No audited accounts, fraud investigations ongoing against the business, liabilities in the hundreds of millions, no source of revenue to pay back, as the current revenues do not cover operating costs of the two resorts, not to mention guaranteed returns and interest payments. The completion payments will not help the finance search as it is a drop in the ocean of what is needed, and what security can they pledge given all the other people that have claims on that security in the form of stat demands, cautions and broken contracts. You already have lost all your money, may get cents back when assets sold off, just make sure you get Ames personal assets too.
Would not entering into a trust with HD/DA at this late date
nullify your original contract, exonerate Ames and leave you
with a lot less than originally contracted years before? Ames
goes scott free and you are left with a tenuous claim on pathways,
ponds and public areas. My prediction is that it will all go bust
and the government of SVG will seize the property and publicly
auction it to the highest bidder. Which I also predict will not be in the
millions but in the low hundred thousands…sic transit gloria !!
Don’t be daft how can the SVG government do that, that’s the sort of rubbish Erica would say………….
The food and beverage director left after finding it impossible to work with Matt Ames
Matt Ames has been removed from his current position amid complaints about his aggressive management style and lack of experience running a bankrupt resort.
Such a lot to do, so little time.
I will offer my services as food and beverages director. The first thing I will do is introduce boxes of wine and jellied eels.
My design for a Masonic temple is coming along fine, the only snag is that we will have to hold the meetings on the beach and that’s disappearing fast
Investors in Harlequin – listen.
The game is up and the money has gone,you have only one shot at trying to make it work.
I have had enough of Harlequin, its sapped the life out of me not just financially.
Yes, let’s sign up to the trust, get rid of Ames, get external financing, build the resorts and all live happily ever after.
The gullibility of investors really is quite staggering, although I suppose that very same naivity was always a key factor in allowing the debacle to develop to the extent it did. Ames and the agents preyed on the foolish and the vulnerable. Nobody with an ounce of investment knowledge or business acumen would have subscribed to the Harlequin proposition nor in the current scenario would they throw more good money after bad.
Mystic Mog (4:03) In the Western Hemisphere it is called
eminent domain. In SVG there is a very left-of-center government
and the opposition isn’t too far behind. Face facts man …
@Anonymous
September 22, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Hello Ralph.
Very interesting why a ‘non- investor’ would take such interest and effort in Harlequin 😉
@Anonymous
September 22, 2013 at 5:18 pm ( another one)
I’m not a man.
So, not only is SVG a nasty little grotty island; it’s corrupt too?
Maybe they Deserve Ames a match made in the Caribbean!!
If the investors are apathetic, then liquidation is the only option.
So in reality, by the end of this week, we should know.
Gulling. Will Ames be able to gull in an open prison ?
Erica,
Tell Mr M he is a sad bitter old ex partner.
@sdi – i agree, the investors are pathetic and liquidation is the only option!
@ Good Old good old
Investors are not the only ones owed money. But most importantly Ames and his wife are both thieves and liars.
@ Good Old, good old, this is our first post today, amazingly there are others out there who understand that the “Harlequin” trust is nothing more then a shambolic attempt to get Ames and his family off the hook.
Ames was very smart…take the dosh in the uk so peeps thinks its the uk they are dealing with) then in the small print say it is an offshore company in a very corrupt country (so even the prime minister aint gonna be shouting fraud very loud…peeps in glass houses an all that) then dont disclose any records (so the chasers have no information whatsover to go on) they obtain citzenship of said corrupt country (can then live there even if charged with mega fraud, n guess what actually the sun shines n it quite a nice place to reture to [in luxury of course]
and the final twist pay judas bob to instill confusion
so simple, its the work of a genius…..shame it is a fraud and illegal in most countries…shame on the FCS and SFO not to be able to do much
As I understand it his UK passport could be suspended so that he
can’t leave.
The Harlequin / RL Investor Trust.
We have had a look at the proposed Harlequin / RL investor trust. In our opinion the trust on the face of it offers absolutely no security to current purchasers.
Effectively investors will be asked to forgo their contractual rights in lieu of a trust supposedly being established to give investors some form of security over their current investments.
What is alarming about this trust from the information we have is that investors will be asked to forgo all contractual rights prior to understanding or ascertaining the value of the asset being held by the trust.
In our opinion Harlequin Investors are gambling with a loaded dice.
Furthermore once Harlequin Investors have given up their rights as per their contracts they will then be asked to share the cost in having the asset to be held in the trust valued. The reason given for this by RL is that Harlequin are not in a financial position to have this done.
The asset being offered in to the trust are the common areas of the “Registered” lands on which the Buccament Bay Resort is situated. The trust does not include the lands on which investors units are located.
The “Registered” land currently comprises of some 19.5 acres. The common parts comprise of pathways, ponds, some grass areas, the Ice cream parlour, the Trader Vics Restaurant (not yet complete) and 4 no. retail units.
* The Bay View Beach restaurant, Jacks restaurant, Swimming Pool, Spa, Reception, Gym, Kids Club, Night Club location, Back of House, Saffron Restaurant, Indian restaurant, Tennis Courts, Football Pitches, Cricket Net area and Beach areas are not included in the assets being put into the proposed trust. These are not located on the 19.5 acres of registered lands.
In 2011 Harlequin claimed that the value of the Buccament Bay Resort stood at £150 million. The valuation arriving at the claimed figure was however never made public by Harlequin and therefore in the absence of any valuation Harlequin’s figure cannot be relied upon.
There are currently circa 100 units available to complete on. The value ascribed by Harlequin to these units is approx £30 million. There are approx. a further 190 units at various stages of completion. 50 of these units are in Apartment Block 2. The value ascribed by Harlequin to these units according to Harlequin’s last sales prices was circa £14 million. The remaining 140 units are on average 60% complete giving a value of circa £26 million.
Harlequin claimed in court that some £20 million was spent on the pool and Restaurant areas above see *.
A further £5 million could be ascribed to the value of the sports facilities (although this figure is almost certainly far too high).
This gives a total valuation of £95 million based on Harlequin’s own figures.
However a true valuation would have to take in to account the profitably or otherwise of the resort, and given that Harlequin refuse to release any accounts pertaining to the resort a true valuation can not be derived at.
An easier way to get a value for the common parts of the Buccament Bay Resort is calculated below.
There is 849,420 sq ft (19.5 acres) of registered land at Buccament Bay. Investor units are located on circa 360,000 sq ft (c 8.3 acres) of this leaving 489, 420 sq ft (11.2 acres) of common parts to be held in the proposed trust.
Locals have been seeking circa £5 per sq ft. for the land Harlequin wish to purchase at Buccament Bay. For the purposes of this exercise we will give a value of £25 per sq ft for the common areas (ponds and pathways). c 21% of the sq ft rate to construct the units.
Therefore the value of the common parts to be held in the trust would be £12.3 million.
The average deposit paid by investors for a unit at Buccament Bay is £90,000.00 and c 1,100 have been sold. Given that the value of the asset to be held in the trust is c £12.3 million the average value to each investor would be c £11,000.00 or c 12 % of their original deposit paid. After legal fees, valuation costs etc of say £2500 per investor the figure reduces to c 9.5 %.
If every investor in Harlequin was to buy into the trust (as Harlequin have invited) this would give each investor security equivalent to c 3.1% of their original deposit paid.
In essence investors are being asked to forgo their existing contracts in which a cumulative total of £400 million was paid in deposits in return for an asset valued at £ 12.3 million or in other words to take a 96.9 % hit on their initial deposit excluding any legal fees that will have to be paid.
What does this do for Harlequin? It allows them to right off 96.9% (387.6 million) of the 400 million owed to investors if every investor was to join the trust and given that investors will have to relinquish their contracts they will have no future recourse against Harlequin.
The trust would only work for investors if the value of the cumulative total of deposits taken equalled the value of the security being offered. In reality the trust would only work if only 136 investors were to opt in to it.
For instance Ames could sell the assets of Harlequin not covered by the trust, pay the trustees the £12.3 million and walk away with the rest. All totally legal.
At least with a liquidator investors have a chance of recouping anywhere between 5 and 20 % without having to pay any legal fees.
The only true beneficiaries of this proposed trust will be the Ames family and Garreth Fatchett.
To set up the trust is a good thing to do. To agree on a rescue package to save Ames is a bad thing to do.
Take this advise seriously. The value of the security as described is not and will never be worth the amounts mentioned on this forum.
Set up the trust so you can use the trust as the vehicle to buy out all assets once the liquidation is announced. You the investors will get control of all assets and control of Ames. Once you have the control you can realize the assets and share whatever comes in from future transactions. Such a strategy would make a better return than the proposed rescue package.
Good luck
More TM piffle
http://www.iexpats.com/harlequin-resort-promoter-administration/
No wonder they were Ames agents
Ralph, what about all you documents and proof? You can do better that a doctored sales spread sheet??
Got bored of asked you, you just don’t come up with the goods.
I would like to put myself forward for the investor trust, myself and David share the same views on many things
API, so boring you must be an accountant.
Without droning on – what you say is based on guesswork because no information has been give for you to base your silly claims on.
Simple choice between siding with:
1. The Irish builder who nicked your money ( Ralph plus others)
2. The English ‘Ponzi’ buffoon ( Diddy Dave)
3. The rescue plan ran by a company of solicitors. ( Reg Legal)
I could be wrong but don’t they seem like a safer bet, in the absence of a viable alternative?
People get hung up about if Ames will escape ‘justice’ with this rescue plan.
They are not linked.
If he has done wrong he will be punished.
The rescue is trying to get something out of a bloody mess.
If the rescue plan works or fails it won’t change anything for Ames.
At least RL are regulated and insured. By far the best option.
ITvET vRL
Reg Legal will not be involved with the trust after its established is my understanding of this I may be wrong but that’s my understanding .
Don’t think Ralph or Dave are regulated………… or insured
RL have told us they will exit stage left the moment the trust is established.
They want it to be independent of Harlequin / Ames and themselves etc.
Is Paul Walton a mason ?
Is Gareth Fatchett a mason ?
Is David Ames a mason ?
Is Simon Terry a mason ?
http://www.nottinghamshiremasons.co.uk/index.php/craft-freemasonry/craft-news/611-w-brother-david-smith-50-years-certificate
See the link the to the Lodge of Harlequin. Why call it Harlequin ?
erm …..
I don’t see what relevance it has on Harlequin or any rescue plan if I am a Freemason or not.
I will say, for the record I have been involved in Freemasonry for nearly thirty years and they do some very good charity work.
Clearly someone has picked up several Masonic words and creating mischief and misinformation.
Thought so !
Paul where is the report?
I am from a family of Freemasons; it is fairly common in my profession to belong to a lodge.
Would I be correct in stating about 4 or 5 of the products \ Companies TailorMade promoted ( and took huge commissions) have gone bust?
The slightly effeminate Scottish chap and Rob ‘shorty’ Shaw should not be allowed to fleece anymore ‘investors’
No doubt ‘Ralph’ has sent the information to the authorities.
I am “on the square”. So what ?
I too am ”on the level” and there is nothing wrong with it.
I knew it !
I am a Mason and belong to the Orange Lodge, That’s where I met David. It’s one place we can meet without any bally slags.
S&F Jeremy Newman … President of the Royal Masonic Trust for Girls and Boys. … Past Presidents of the Grand Charity, the Royal Masonic Trust for Girls and Boys, the Royal Masonic Benevolent Institution
It looks like the Masonic silly season has started again.
I struggle to understand how this has any relevance in helping any restructure.
I would be cautious about most of the things you read on here, they have a level of fantasy about them.
@PW I agree, any talk of a restructure plan is total Fantasy!
@Ralph any news? What’s up Erica got your tongue?
This site is becoming very slow. Where have people gone ?
Actually when FDNRM-Bobby-36-et alia, are/is taken out of the
equation it appears to be about normal to me. Praises the
powers that be for the respite.
Not much to add. Those in the region and with experience and practical business minds have said that the trust as proposed makes little sense, and delays the inevitable winding up of a completely failed business and that the scammers should be held to account. Those investors who still live in hope believe that some rescue can be performed that will keep the business going and make profits. One can only wait and see now. Clear arguments have always been put forward as to why Harlequin have long since been an insolvent failure that should be wound up, whereas to date noone has put forward any plan that demonstrates why and how this is not the case.
@ Anonymous
September 23, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Hello Ralph 🙂
FDNRM – Why don’t you answer Anon/6:59’s last sentence?
@Fdnrm 7.30 pm
Whether the person posting at 6.59 pm is Ralph or not, perhaps you could articulate exactly how the “rescue plan” is likely to result in a profitable enterprise capable of making a return for investors and external financiers.
This is not a trick question and anyone is free to answer (since obviously FDNRM will not). And please try and expand on the “anything’s got to be better than liquidation” refrain, which seems to be what currently passes for a business plan.
I am anon at 6.59, not Ralph but a citizen of the Caribbean fed up with the charade that is Harlequin and all its sordid “business” activities.
Anonymous
September 23, 2013 at 8:03 pm
Hello Ralph is Erica’s tongue still up your Irish arse
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery!!
This is Anon 6:38…….I spoke too soon !!!
Well if the rescue plan works or fails only time will tell, but better to try than just give up like a cheese surrender monkey
RL had 500+ new people today. Only 4000 odd to go.
Where have all these people gone ?
The are being held against their will in a secret location until the treatment starts to work and they agree to liquidation.
investors need to read the following releases. although they relate to another investment that failed the outcome of this could have serious consequences for any fscs claims in relation to harlequin as the fscs are
delaying on settlement decisions until the SFO have completed their findings.
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress/project-bijou-arck-llp.aspx
http://www.fscs.org.uk/news/2013/september/update-for-investors-in-arck-llp/index.html
my latest comment awaiting moderation so you may want to check out latest releases from sfo/fscs regarding ARCK.
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress/project-bijou-arck-llp.aspx
http://www.fscs.org.uk/news/2013/september/update-for-investors-in-arck-llp/index.html
No there all ok. Work to start in earnest soon. Its important that all investors join my trust. Its my trust after all. Fatfuckfeatures cant beat me. No one can. I am untouchable. So fuck you all. I have your money, and fatfuckfeatures knows this.
O Halloran, what the hell are you doing on here. I destroyed you. I am God. Who the fuck do you think you are stealing the money I stole. Its was my money to steal. My money.
Controlling access onto and around the site might not be such a bad idea, after all, what value does a building have if you have to negotiate access to it with a third party?
If liquidation of the existing company was accepted as inevitable then holding control of something as simple as access over the pathways might be a valuable bargaining tool with any buyer and probably the only chance to salvage something from the wreckage. A prudent person would, of course, be very careful about who they allowed into any such controlling group.
Remember Fatcheeks beat Norwich & Peterborough into submission, they paid £54m and then had to merge with Yorkshire BS.
He also beat up Capita over CF Arch Cru – £54m (FSA untervention)
Took down Arck LLP – £68m. (SFO intervention)
Do not underestimate RL.
Funny old world,
Reg Legal recovered over £170 million
Ames lost £400 million…………..
I nicked millions…….£34 million…………..
Ames spent £10 million on legal fees
When you mess with them Mason types ya stuffed, The Duke of Kent is the the boss Mason, he just asked the Queen for help.
The government, SFO, and FSCA asked Fatchips to take this on and are paying him and them others.
Yeah, and now the Government will pay up for Ames via the FSCS.
Telling me its a funny old world
Bob, what’s wrong Dave told you to stop bloging?
Or have you got a refund?
I understand that all the TM scum and Ames are in it all together, I total get it. But I will be working without a break to bring them all down. I don’t sleep now anyway since Harlequin took my husbands pension. We invested in Brazil but Gary Player is a liar to because he never never was going to do anything. I wrote to him and told him so. What has Ames done with the money, who said he could buy plans and fly first class – the idiot.the resort pumps sewerage out at night and kills fish.
I did not say he can buy a hotel, just to show off to his bit of stuff, disgusting way to behave. I have been abused online and by harlequins legal team – I taped the lot of them. He took all our money and he wont pay it back I have just sent all the evidence to No 10 Downing street and the white house.
niar – Bob is wrestling with his demons…..the dude has issues !!
This forum is dying now. A few posts per day.
game over. you all lost all your money. they won.
you were suckers. now only the lawyers get the money.
so stop. its over. you lost.
Watching at train wreck in slow motion is no fun.
All Harlequin investors should email or phone for a trust pack.
http://www.harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk
Thank you.
Is there a way for an ex-supplier but non investor to join
harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk ??
Ames defrauded you all in the most open and obvious way possible, lied all the way through the process, no one thought to do their own DD and just believed him and all his agents. People tried to warn others, but Ames spent your money on silencing any critics or websites that challenged him. Clever, but extremely devious. He got your money, shared it between himself and his agents, built a few % of his obligation. It’s gone, move on. Let authorities deal with Ames.
@worriedinvestor I dont Mr Obama will reach for the red button to nuke ames….he wont even get to read the letter
@Erica aka worried investor, did you run that past your legal team, has Crozier ok’d it?
Hi FDNRM, I’d be interested to know your thoughts on the new plan. Will you be signing up to it?
@Sid.
Bob of all people should sign it unless he really is daft as a brush, he has paid for his unit and only has Ames word – oh dear!
@Keep your friends close …
Maybe the penny has dropped and they have all called Reg Legal for the investment pack and eventually decided it’s not looking good.
The SFO will be looking at TM, as they say on the TV – follow the money.
Are you going to sign up then 36/FDNRM/Bob Storey? You used to be so vocal about the Harlequin business model.
If I were a TM director I would be nervy.
Other recent SFO matters have included the main adviser being charged.
Replace Stone with Burns / Shaw etc ….
Four charged in ‘bio fuel’ investigation
14 August 2013
Four men connected to Sustainable AgroEnergy plc have today been charged with offences of conspiracy to commit fraud by false representation and conspiracy to furnish false information, contrary to section 1 of the Criminal Law Act 1977, in connection with the investigation by the Serious Fraud Office into the promotion and selling of “bio fuel” investment products to UK investors. The value of the alleged fraud is approximately £23m and the offences are said to have taken place between April 2011 and February 2012.
The men, all British nationals, are:
– Gary Lloyd West (age 52) of Hertfordshire, the former Director and Chief Commercial Officer of Sustainable AgroEnergy plc
– James Brunel Whale (age 38) of West Sussex, the former Chief Executive Officer of Sustainable AgroEnergy plc
– Stuart John Stone (age 28) of Shropshire, an Independent Financial Adviser associated with Sustainable AgroEnergy plc
– Fung Fong Wong (age 57) of Middlesex, the former Financial Controller of Sustainable AgroEnergy plc
West, Stone and Wong have also been charged with offences of making and accepting a financial advantage contrary to section 1 (1) and 2 (1) of the Bribery Act 2010.
The SFO commenced proceedings today against the four and they will appear before Westminster Magistrates Court on 23 September 2013.
“Promotion and Selling” – I would widen the nerves up somewhat if I were a major agent. Especially if the IFA got a free villa.
There is a suggestion that one SIPP providers director got a free villa.
Wouldn’t Burns take his punishment north of the border ?
He would be very popular in an “open” prison.
HMP Analcleft.
poor Fung Fong….’tis better to be right than Wong
@ C an’t U nderstand N asty T ailormade S ipp’s
Say’s it all really.
S pecial H arlequin I nvestor T eam
Say’s it all really .
That’s why TM shut up shop, an insider told me it’s the SFO they fear most.
Some of that inflated commission made its way back to Dave Ames via an off shore company set up.
TM had been given two beach front villas.
investors need to read the following releases. although they relate to another investment that failed the outcome of this could have serious consequences for any fscs claims in relation to harlequin as the fscs are
delaying on settlement decisions until the SFO have completed their findings.
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress/project-bijou-arck-llp.aspx
http://www.fscs.org.uk/news/2013/september/update-for-investors-in-arck-llp/index.html
I don’t think shutting up shop will help anyone. As they say, what’s done is done. If I was in anyway connected to HP and had in anyway benefitted financially I would be shitting enough bricks to finish off at least one of the apartment blocks.
Sid – Its not easy to let go. There is no way that that’s gonna
happen. There are no sewerage connections, no paved road,
nothing !!!!
I think you may have misunderstood my last post anon!
Sid – Where did I go wrong. t would help but it is not
possible.
The trust will not work. Even Fatchett knows it will be challenged successfully by the Liquidators. Yes the Liquidators. Sadly Fatchett knows so much more then he is telling investors. And he knows funding for Harlequin aint going to happen. He also knows liquidation is inevitable.
And what a month October is going to be for Ames. Another round of court actions coming up.
The only redefining that the Ames family have succeeded in doing is redefining insolvency law in the UK and Caribbean. Any investors even contemplating joining the trust should seek independent legal advice. And should wait till the 1st week of November. Fatchett appears to have smashed his moral compass along time ago. Shame on you Fatchett. Shame on you.
anonymous55
It’s will end up the same, of that I have no doubt.
@Storm Clouds are Gathering
Hello Ralph,AKA Erica’s ghost writer.
You really do like making outlandish statements with out any proof, you uneducated super morbidly obese woman.
Imagine 12 months ago when TailorMade and Harlequin were basking in the success of the ‘Harlequin model’ life was good… really good, first class flights, lots of money the gravy train would never stop.
It did……….
Now look at them!!
Never fear what goes around comes around, it can just take a little time.
Trust me……….;)
“sins of the father” means that the spiritual or emotional burdens of previous generations, unknown to the recipient, can be passed down to succeeding generations.
@ Gareth’s Groupies
I am not Ralph or Erica. According to the UK court listings for October the Ames family Mr. and Mrs. are down for three court dates, with HP SVG and HH&R down for one.
Those in the trust will have been considered as having obtained preferential creditor status. And a liquidator may very well over turn the trust.
And it may just be that the trust will stand as part of the CVA process with HMSSE.
The ignorant do not know, because the intelligent chose not to tell them. Why burden their limited brain cells.
@Storm Clouds are Gathering
Don’t care who you are but you are full of shit, no facts like Ralph 😉
It was so easy for TailorMaid to sell the dream to you stupid Northern, flat capped, labour club loving, common people – you just wanted to show off, its all your own fault.
Crazy, crazy old World.
In one corner we have, FDNRM. He, bless him, won’t have a wrong word said about Harlequin. He has a silly name, Fatchett by default could represent him in the future.
In the other corner we have, the Irish builder & Erica plus a few other hanger’s on. They won’t have a good word to say about about Harlequin – they want it to go bust, pretty obvious why.
What is bizarre is why the ‘self proclaimed’ savior of investors has anything to do with someone who stolen our cash?
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS COCK FIGHT WE HAVE INVESTORS.
Some of them are in a terrible position unable to make ends meets because of the ‘investment’ this will be affecting their health, this I have no doubt of.
Some ‘investors’ will just brush it off because they can afford it or it was ‘only’ £20k or £30k of a pension. Each ‘investor’ is different.
What would be a crying shame, if because of apathy, the rescue plan were to never get off the ground.
So there are no court cases in October? Thats good news. Isnt it?
And you think my name is silly! How can Erica be in a cock fight?
FDNRM are you going to sign up to the trust or are you happy to stick with what you have? Have you completed on your property yet? Are you concerned about the future of Harlequin?
@FDNRM
Is that all you can say?
You are a very odd chap
Do you feel happy?
Is your £150,000 is safe with Toxic Toad Ames?
This is how the world ends: not with a bang but with a whimper.
@GB MEP I’m more than happy, but not for any reason you might think.
We hope to get the numbers of investors to agree to the trust, it’s our only option to avoid liquidation – that is not a route we want to go down..
Another Acronym 🙂
Reminder, all Harlequin investors need to complete a trust application form.
Please contact:
http://www.harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk
Regulatory Legal Solicitors – 01384 889900
Thank you.
@FDNRM, do tell?…
@K Freeman Harlequin investors do not need to apply for a trust pack. They can do so if they wish but it is not a necessity. It might be that RL would encourage investors to do this.
Question re: RL…….aren’t there full disclosure laws on the books
when a law firm solicits business? –which is exactly what RL is doing.
@FDNRM, let me guess…are you getting a refund?
Anon /Erica,
Grow up. You cannot stop the trust.
What guarantee would I have that Ames will have NOTHING to
do with trust…nada…niente…nunca?
FDNRM is happy coz dodgy dave has bunged him his dosh back, as a pay back for stirring all the crap on here….Bob is a Judas
@game over, do you know that for a fact or is that speculation?
@anon 6.47. Harlequin is not the world. It is a scam set up by a crook to lure in naive vulnerable investors to rob them of their money. It worked, but it really does not affect others, as others who were real investors and developers knew it would end this way so the world went on normally without these buffoons.
If Bob Storey has received a refund at this stage of the day, having already received income payments, then I have no doubt that the payment will be set aside by the liquidator as unfair preference.
Don’t spend the money yet Bob.
NOT FOR ANY REASON YOU MIGHT THINK. Do you lot not read?
The ‘normal’ MO for Ames is to have a meeting with the likes of FDNRM, give him the well rehearsed, it’s not my fault, but everything will be fine; pat him on the back and he goes away happy.
That’s all that will have happened. There is no money left.
If no refund then we can only assume that the day job is going well and that Bob has earned an extra star!
For those unaware, the stars represent four different modules of training: Quality, Service, Cleanliness, and Operational Excellence. Crew members work and train in various areas of the restaurant. They gain skills that are rewarded with a star once a level of clear understanding and application has been reached. Having all four stars demonstrates a competent knowledge in all areas of the restaurant operations, such as operating a till, preparing products, working in the dining areas and hygiene and safety knowledge.
My guess is that Bob has finally mastered the art of cleaning around the rim – well done Bob.
@Anon 9.22 get a life you sado.
Meanwhile…………back in the real world……….HP is on the edge or bankruptcy.
@Iwfh and your the “real world?” Your post of 7.28 showed you know Jack.
I’m an investor, Harlequin Investors, if they wish, can apply for a trust pack by contacting Regulatory Legal Solicitors:
http://www.harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk
01384 889900
Thank you
Here’s an interesting narrative arc – http://www.pimlico-flats.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1838&start=280
Read posts by anon_2 on pages 15 – 17. You have to wonder just how they were so brainwashed into believing the hype – and what exactly it was that jolted them out of it? However they still say that they think that the resorts are viable – did any of the investors do any kind of research??
Something never rang true about that anon_2 — though the volte face just makes it even more curious.
@ Anonymous September 26, 2013 at 3:25 pm
I agree with you about anon_2. It just read like a clever PR stunt from HP HQ. I wonder why the about turn? Maybe getting ready to dis RL or anyone else who stands up to HP.
Lady Vivien,
I went to the RL meetings in Warrington and they said no such thing.
They are lodging claims and like all things they will take time.
They have track record in these issues. Be patient.
Lady Vivien,
I too was at the meeting at Manchester.
I can only assume giving yourself a title like ‘Lady Vivien’ you have a high opinion of yourself.
Let me guess; you were the ‘Mutton Dressed as Lamb’ and you stood near the back?
Mr Fatchett said no such thing, you nasty vindictive woman.
Could that be the Steph (@4:39) that Bobby S. has been posting
such vile, vicious, misogynistic comments about. Just to let
you know Steph there are some of us who applaud your approach to this disaster.
Ask mi mum. She knows about the court hearings.
She wont tell as Paddy O’Riley will not let her.
How predictable
I have not yet received my refund, it will be from the insurance company who have agreed to uphold the claim.
TailorMade have gone into liquidation.
@Anon 4.57. I was not even at Warrington and I don’t know who STEPH is. What an idiot you are.
I know what you are all up to, i totally get it now.
Ames has paid you all to turn against me and to have me followed, no rescue will work I will see to that we have all the evidence and all the authorities have its two. ames will end up in jail and so will some of you like mr storey ou sad sicko
When the rescue plan fails because of the negative input from O’ Halloran, Erica Broughton and all the other weirdos……… I have a question:
Will you feel guilty when someone harms themselves or jumps of a bridge
Because of your actions?
They will have absolutely no possible hope when you get your liquidation.
Maybe ask Dave for some tips, he seems to put it about a little 🙂
What’s his bit on the side called?
It matters not. RL have loads of people, but not as many as they will need.
GF is very frustrated as he knows the idea will fail due to apathy.
Erica / Paudie – you will have your way.
Investors – you will lose out
The failure of Harlequin is all Erica’s fault. It was all going so well until she started stirring things up!
It’s very sad Harlequin has given her such severe mental illness.
But the fat old gobby cow should stick to what she knows best, washing peoples skiddies.
@ Paul Walton
That is a waste of time, I would give you a real one up the wrong un for nowt 😉
Standard offensive idiots involved with harlequin. Only one person to blame for loss of investor money. Dave Ames. Crook, thief, liar.
Does anyone know what Comrade Gonsalves take is on
“recuse plan” ?
No but his stance will presumably be influenced by the famous Ames missing suitcase incident and the rumoured payments made to his wife for “interior design” services at Buccament Bay.
I wouldn’t have thought that he would rock the boat too much while Ames is still in the frame in case some information about the alleged payments finds its way into the public domain.
@FDNRM, yes I have certainly been very busy with my ‘conquests’ according to some.
I have just carved another notch on my imaginary BFP bed post, you will have to share it with:
Gareth Fatchett
Richard Ingham
Dave Ames
Bob Storey
Dr Gonsalves is on record as saying that Buccament Bay and the Argyle airport are developments that go hand in hand, so I imagine he is taking a close interest. I suspect that he will have cause to regret the rash decision to grant citizenship to Dave Ames, especially if Ames goes on the run with a Vincy passport.
As citizenship through investment is being touted by many Caribbean nations one hopes that they are also watching and noting and properly examining the credentials of those applying for citizenship, otherwise it could become discredited very quickly.
@ BB
Well in that case the have both been a monumental failure.
I’m an investor, would Harlequin Investors who wish to apply for a trust application form contact Regulatory Legal Solicitors:
http://www.harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk
01384 889900
Thank you.
@FDNRM, I’m very interested to know why you’ve suddenly lost your voice on here after being so vocal for so long, and what your recent news is? The timing is interesting considering the recent movement. Are you sure you won’t be changing your name to AHFRM (Ames has fully reimbursed me)?
Hi FDNRM, I must say your answer did make me chuckle, but it does seem like you’re avoiding the question.
That’s a tempting offer I must say. Will the wedding breakfast be fish & chips with boxed wine served in plastic cups?
The person using all the foul language is coming from IP: 93.174.93.145 that is an anonymous proxy.
And it’s not me either Sid
I know it wasn’t Bob. Don’t worry, I have a higher opinion of you than that.
@ FDNRM,
And I was going to tell you off about ‘Kiss ‘n’ Tell’ 😉
What happens in Buccament Bay should stay in BB!
@Sid,
That’s what they all say, now all my proclivities are all over BFP!!
im not being funny, but, how are those harlequin guys still alive…If it was my investment they would be goners..Come on Mr Branson, get in there and make a fortune…Show em how its done
@DD what are you taking about?
Not a single post yet today. Really? I hope that’s a good sign.
Yes, what’s happening?! No Ralph, no Bob, come on guys I’m missing you.
Low occupancy at BBat the moment. In the single figures I hear.
It will likely be inability to pay bills at the two operating resorts that brings this sham to an end, rather than the authorities or the law. Ames refuses to pay stat demands anyway so that will not likely bring things to a close. There is no rescue plan that can possibly work as the business is so upside down and was designed to scam rather than create a profitable enterprise. If they get through to Christmas at these resorts, the joke that is Harlequin will drag on a while yet.
End of October is the key.
@Sid, you may want to register for the RL site for updates. There you will find that Erica has morphed into Ralph/Worriedinvestor/I lostmyhome and now API. Having said that it really is the same old rubbish. They are now quoting from the Redbook, but for some reason are having difficulty uploading it to the site. No surprise there then.
Perhaps occupancy at Buccament Bay is being intentionally run down prior to the massive building program which Mr Ames announced would begin this week?
so a loss of home and pension is “the same old rubbish ” tells you everything dont you think?.how can you deal with these people?
@clod (clod, good that) I suggest you read through the RL threads before making an ill informed and ill judged comment.
The Harlequin Empire is on its last legs, desperately trying to lure in investors to complete on BB – what fools some people are.
It’s all going to end soon.
Ames is offering substantial bonus payments to any of his sales staff that ‘hook’ an investor to part with the cash and complete.
Dear Mr. Walton and RL, we have read your comments above, for fear of being attacked there is no alternative to liquidation unless Harlequin receive a substantial cash injection. What would come from completions will not be enough.
RL need to point out to investors the pitfalls of the trust as being proposed. RL have to date failed to do this. Our concerns are the following.
(a). Mr. Walton stated the following.
“SIPP investors
If the company is still trading you can submit a claim for bad advice, you can recover all costs. If they’ve gone into liquidation, you have the FSCS scheme, but it’s capped at £50k SIPP trustees, can be sued for not carrying out due diligence. Take action now on both. ”
Mr. Walton is correct in his statement above, however if the advice originally came directly from Harlequin to the IFA etc (and there is plenty of evidence to suggest this happened) then there is no doubt that the underwriters insurers will seek to recover the monies paid out from Harlequin thus closing the loop.
(b). Mr. Walton goes onto further state, and yes to be fair to Mr. Walton he does expressly caveat his statement.
“If the SIPP investors get their money back (and it’s happening now) to be blunt Harlequin don’t have to give it back, someone else will. This then gives the cash / finance investors a chance of Harlequin not going into administration.”
The problem is with the underwriters insurers, they are looking at paying out sums totalling in excess of 200 Million Sterling. Insurance companies are not known for their generosity and given the sums involved, it would be very naive of investors to think that the insurers will just pay out and that will be an end of the matter. RL have been asked this question about the insurers in the past but have remained resolutely silent on this matter.
We would be very interested to know if RL are willing to answer the questions below.?
Do RL think there might be a chance that the Insurers would seek redress from Harlequin for the compensation paid out ? And if the insurers sought redress from Harlequin could this not put Harlequin into liquidation ?
(c). The trust itself is not a Rescue Plan, Mr. Walton has stated that no one has come up with an alternative to ” The Rescue Package “.
Investors are being miss guided here, the trust is “NOT” a rescue package, not for investors anyway.
(d). Many have said on this site that they believe that the contracts are worthless, this is an “UNTRUE” Statement. In the event of a liquidation contract holders could recover circa 5%. or an average of 4,500 pounds.
What would investors recover from the trust as being proposed?
An average of 3,960 pounds less legal fees and funds expended to opt into the trust, so in essence c 4.4% less legal fees etc.
Why less then 4.4 %?
The trust as currently being proposed is for the common areas of the Registered Land at Buccament Bay. There is currently no valuation of this. This is rather odd in the context of Ames statements that he had the Buccament Bay property valued in 2011. This valuation would assist in RL ascertaining an approx value for the common parts.
We have ascribed a a value of 12 million pounds for the common parts, however it has to be understood that a true valuation of the Buccament Bay Resort will have to take into account the turnover and profitability of the resort.
The units at Buccament Bay have been grossly over valued by Harlequin at least according to the RLB Red Book valuation of 2009 which is being sent to RL in the morning. (For what ever reason we ae unable to upload it onto the site)
The valuation could be very much less then the 12 million we have allowed. The valuation cannot be based on the values of the properties as advertised by Harlequin.
If all SIPP purchasers seek alternative redress as suggested by Mr. Walton this will leave approx 3000 investors who might opt into the trust. The more investors who opt for the trust the lower the average value to each investor will become.
There are currently c. 6000 investors in Harlequin, 5000 first time purchasers and c 1000 double sold units either just double sold or investors awaiting their funds via the resale route.
Secondly and more importantly contract holders in St. Vincent have certain rights as to the land / properties they are purchasing as enshrined in St Vincent law. This is a fact, why do RL not address this issue with investors? Whay are investors not told about these rights ?
(e) There is absolutely nothing to prevent investors keeping their contracts and still opting into a trust. And RL have failed to date to explain to investors why they will have to forgo their contracts in order to join a trust. Why don’t RL come out and state that the contract issue is one of the caveats that Ames has laid down in order for him to accept the idea of a trust.
The issues with the trust as currently being proposed by RL.
(1). The trust as being proposed is for the common parts only of the registered land in St. Vincent (the 19.05 acres) and not for all lands which encorporate the Buccament Bay site which are either owned by Ames or other Harlequin entities.
(2). If investors forgo their contracts and opt into the trust and in the event that Harlequin are liquidated possibly as a result of the SIPP insurers claiming against the Harlequin RDC’s or third party stat. demands from suppliers and others there is every chance that the liquidators will challenge the trust as being a preference given to unsecured creditors. The trust could be disolved because the IP could demonstrate that it was not legal and without their contracts the investors will have no further grounds for redress.
Investors in this scenario will get zero, however if they retain their contracts they could get c 5% eventually from a liqudator.
Can RL gurantee that an IP will not challenge the trust and can RL state what the effect of a sucessfull challenge by an IP on investors would be if they forgo their contracts ?
(3). RL have put forward the argument that if Investors will forgo their contracts in exchange for membership of a trust this would assist Harlequin in obtaining a CVA thus diminishing the threat of liquidation of the RDC’s.
This would benefit Harlequin, but aside from the value of the trust it would be of no benefit to investors.
As stated in a previous post, the trust assists Ames by legally righting off a debt by Harlequin to investors of some 97%. or 388 million pounds of investor money.
In essence Ames would benefit from the value of all the land and resorts owned by him minus the value of the trust.
Now can RL please for once explain to investors how this will be a good thing for them?
Once investors forgo contracts there is no going back, no round 2 of negotiations no second bite of the cherry.
The trust is not a rescue package, In order to rescue Harlequin for the benefit of investors the debt burden has to be reduced and fresh finance injected.
RL are not in a position to tell us how or where the external finance will come from to fund Harlequin. In order to protect Harlequin from potential liquidation Harlequin will have to demonstrate an ability to service their current debt pile which is in excess of 400 million sterling. A huge cash injection is required to safely protect Harlequin from potential liquidation.
It is the current debt pile that is scaring potential financiers. Gone are the days that financiers are willing to acquire debt piles as assets. Given that many of the contracts have passed their completion dates Ames cannot argue the point that it is Harlequin that are owed the money from investors, Harlequin has failed to provide what it was contractually obliged to provide and as a result are in default of their contractual obligations.
Even though it might be hard for investors to undertand, the current best option for all concerned is a liquidation of Harlequin and their related RDC’s if the best that can be put forward is a trust in it’s current format.
If investors wanted to retain their investment albeit in a different or diluted form, then get together, unite. 6,000 investors between them could raise some 60 million pounds, an average of 10,000 per person. Some could afford more, some alot less but with a bit of strategic thinking, a proper management team in place, RL to guide the investors through the legalities, and to deal with a liquidator and a deal could be struck with a liquidator, the investors could take control of 100% of the assets of Harlequin, a fresh start.
No historic debt or issues. Look at it like a management buyout. No worries about being chased down by the SIPP insurers, The trust as currently proposed is too small. Its all about timing.
Investors who opt into the Trust in its current proposed format and who forgo contracts stand to loose everything.
Mr. Walton has stated correctly that it is Bad, Really Bad, but the “TRUST” as currently being proposed is “Worse” alot “Worse”.
RL please could you please take on board what we have said. RL you are fully aware that what we have stated is an accurate reflection of the scenario facing investors. The “Trust” as proposed is not a rescue plan. Is it not time that the issues above were addressed ?. Investors need proper guidance, RL can provide this.
It’s possible some investors have only just been advised there is a serious problem.
I will try and summarise the current Harlequin situation and options available, if any.
In other words cut through the many thousands of comments and opinions, not all of them helpful.
These are just my thoughts, in summary, and blunt.
Please run it by your solicitor to be on the safe side.
Harlequin ‘today’
We are where we are, the reasons why, let’s leave to one side – it’s happened and can’t be changed.
If Harlequin don’t get finance soon they will go into liquidation.
SIPP investors
If the company is still trading you can submit a claim for bad advice, you can recover all costs.
If they’ve gone into liquidation, you have the FSCS scheme, but it’s capped at £50k
SIPP trustees, can be sued for not carrying out due diligence. Take action now on both.
Cash or finance investments.
Harlequin cannot give you your money back, it’s gone.
The interest payments will not start again.
This group more than any need the rescue plan to work, other than taking legal action against individuals, or issuing a stat demand they don’t have many options available. There is no magic wand.
10% guaranteed income
I don’t believe it will ever happen
The Trust and rescue plan.
Please check this with your legal team I could be way off the mark.
If the SIPP investors get their money back (and it’s happening now) to be blunt Harlequin don’t have to give it back, someone else will.
This then gives the cash / finance investors a chance of Harlequin not going into administration.
I’m assuming that the Trust will be mainly cash or finance investors. Security will be given and a Trustee group ( not the Ames) will look after the investors assets.
The Ames family
If they have done any wrong doing I feel sure they will answer for it.
If anyone has any evidence don’t ‘blog’ about it pass it to the authorities let them deal with it.
Summary.
It’s bad, really bad.
Liquidation means cash or finance investors will get very little of the investment back, and it will take a long time.
Nobody has come up with an alternative to the rescue package or liquidation, lots of posts and comments but no real alternatives.
At the moment RL is all we have.
Grim Reading part one = Paul Walton and is therefor worth a read. Grim Reading above that is Erica/Ralph/Worried Investor/API who only have one aim which is liquidation. Don’t be fooled into the scenario that investors could “club together” to by tha assets. API knows that this would not be achieved. That would lead the way for another group, perhaps an Irish builder” to buy the assets from the liquidator. Also don’t foreget that if HP is liquidated then any forthcoming legal actions would be null and void. Who would that benefit I wonder?
Bob Storey you are a complete freak. You are jumping from forum to forum shouting your stupid litle head off. You have never once added anything of value to any discussions. You are one very sad bastard. If you are typical of the rest of Harlequin investors then one can understand why they are in the mess they are in.
The criminal actions would not be null and void though. And yes you really are one sad nasty bastard Bob.
Bob you really think that Ames can win all the court cases? This is the same guy who pays off witnesses, lol the same guy who forges documents, the same guy who bribes politicians yeah yeah he won in Ireland, and now the case is being appealed. And what about all the other cases? You are an idiot. Ames is shitting himself over the Defamation case. Why do you think that is Bob? And what about the other cases? And are your mates in the SFO still not looking at him. ?
Listen Bob you are an idiot. Did you know that Ames wanted to pay a guy to kill someone? No bet you did not know that…. Ames is totally messed up and so are you. Now why dont you go back to the RL site or one of Mr.Inniss’s porn sites.
@anon/anonymous/anonymous. How predictable. The liquidation trolls out in force. Do you hide behind Anonymous IDs on the RL site. Just cannot stand an alternative view can you. Defamation case? Shitting himself? Well he could always drop it. But he hasn’t has he. Oh by the way API are jumping from site to site. But that’s ok then.
@fdnrm I.cant be to badly informed,and there is nothing wrong with my judgment as my total loss in this debacle to date is zero .and will remain so
Bob Storey/36/fdnrm/sportingman etc is a Harlequin troll and in the standard Harlequin business of misleading and trying to get investors to do what is best for Harlequin but not for themselves. It has been said before, but sadly anyone who invested in Harlequin demonstrated a lack of business acumen as what they were selling was very clearly absurd and unachievable, so really should take some better independent advice now. Liquidation seems to be the most obvious way to recover any funds, participating in anything that involves those who set the scam up in the first place is not wise, and with so many contracts in breach, no p and l’s from BB or Blu do people even know what they are trying to save etc (by the way, I wonder how Blu is doing given that US$650 rate was promised by Harlequin sales manager, when he compared Blu to the established beachfront hotels the Bodyholiday, East Winds and Cap Maison, and said they would get 85% occupancy, when in reality they get US$100 and 30% occupancy, as they did when it was the Village Inn)
Anonymous/Anonoymous/anonymous. Do you have a name or ID? Anonymous is well …….Anonymous.
Anonymous & Anonymous, you sound very much like Erica.
Now, she is sad bastard taking sides with someone who stolen investors cash.
I rest my case.
Maybe, the twisted plan is for the irish builder to buy the resorts from the IP and set up a love nest with the fat one.
4-5% in a liquidation, that for the average investor would be eaten up with the SIPP charges in a couple of years so you are actually getting nob all back.
good acronym.
liquidation is almost inevitable – I am sick of the whole thing
Ames =Scum
O Halloran =Scum
Would not be beyond realms of possibility that the two worked in cahoots to defraud the investors.
The issue of redress is not quite as straight forward as some make out.
On the question of the SIPP provider’s liability (“SIPP trustees can be sued for not carrying out due diligence”) the chances of a successfull prosecution on these grounds are slim to say the least. There have been two high profile cases in the last year firstly involving Hornbuckle Mitchell and secondly Standard Life (only two weeks ago) where the pensions ombudsman specifically ruled in favour of the Sipp trustees, arguing that there was no requirement for the sipp provider to undertake extensive due dilligence on esoteric investments beyond establishing that the investments would not incur tax penalties if purchased by the pension scheme. The Ombudsman confirmed that where the investment had been taken out before October 2012, when the UK FSA published more stringent guidelines for SIPP providers, including the requirement to undertake more robust due dilligence on investments, basic checks by the provider to ensure that the investment was permitted without tax penalty under HMRC rules were all that was required of the Sipp trustee.
Following this very clear judgement, entirely consistent with the earlier Hornbuckle Mitchell case, it is very difficult to imagine a successful prosecution being mounted on the grounds of poor due dilligence. It is of course possible that the sipp providers have been guilty of wrongdoing or maladministration in other areas aside from due dilligence, which for all I know may have been the case.
The Hornbuckle and Standard Life cases have been covered extensively in the press so full details can be obtained via a simple google search.
The case against the IFA’s is obviously much more clear cut, though the limits of PI and FSCS compensation levels is of key relevance.
Anon:5:49 A possibility that Ginger Girl intimated on BFP
months ago. Were they not both sighted at the Barbados Hilton
in mid-February?
anon @5.58 . agree. have also posted this information for those that wish to read from the online sources. also posted re arck as this may be of importance also as fscs awaiting on sfo findings until deciding on recourse.
Fatchett does not represent me.
September 29, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Anonymous & Anonymous, you sound very much like Erica.
Now, she is sad bastard taking sides with someone who stolen investors cash.
I rest my case.
Maybe, the twisted plan is for the irish builder to buy the resorts from the IP and set up a love nest with the fat one.
BOB STOREY THE NONCE OF NUNEATON
You are not well liked around here are you FDRNW/36/ Bob Storey? No one has a good word for you. You are a stupid Harlequin lackey paid to be a disruptive gobshite on forums. You don;t care about any of the other investors. You are disgusting and selfish and think only about your own self & what you have done is criminal.
Has anyone at HIG/Paul Walton/RL had sight of Harlequin’s business plans in relation to construction of each resort and also forecasts and budgets for the resorts they operate and ones they were planning to open?
Specifically, given they had sold all these properties, one has to assume they had in place clear build plans and pricing in order to have ascertained what they could sell the units for. So, it would be useful for investors to see the detailed construction numbers for Marquis in St Lucia, Merricks in Barbados, and the three in the DR as well as for building out BB. It would then be useful to see operating budgets and forecasts for Allamanda/H Hotel (as well as build plans for same), Blu and BB. All this work must have been done as they must have had a plan in place to have taken all this money. It would be interesting to see these to understand how they were planning to role out these massive resorts and fund their construction and at what cost, and when they were expecting them to reach break even and profit, and how they were planning to cashflow pre-opening expenses and any losses of the first couple of years. Again, every developer has all this in place before they take any money so should be easy to get these if Harlequin are now cooperating with investors. There may be investors who can offer good advice and help if they had these numbers to review.
Anon:8:49
Since it is patently obvious that HD will never release any information
perhaps Ridgeview-ICE Group-Krauss Manning-Procure It Direct
might be able provide the information. For God’s sake they must
have had “scratch sheets” or something to proceed on. Or were
you just being sardonic?
Ames has been flogging properties below the cost to construct for years.
Take the example of the Hideaway in the DR. Sold for £24 million. Cost to construct £28 million. Break even ? NO.
Sales Commissions £3 million
Land Cost £2 million
Guaranteed Return @ 10% per annum for 2 years. £4 million
Overhead, Legal Fees Design Costs £1.5 million.
Total Cost £38.5 million
Income £24 million
Deficit £14.5 million.
Ames has sold c 6000 properties. The properties are avg 1,100 sq ft each. 6,600,000 sq ft. Avg construction cost in Caribbean £120 per Sq Ft. Total £792 million. Common area infrastructure cost 12% £96 million. Back of House, Restaurant Areas, Sports Facilities, Land cost, legal fees management overhead etc. 20% £158 million.
Total costs £1.046 billion.
Deposits £400 million.
Total Sales £1.33 billion
Less commissions £200 million
Less guaranteed returns £266 million
Less transaction taxes £50 million
Total income £814 million
Deficit £232 million.
These figures do not take into account that £400 million has already been expended on opening 100 units and 4 restaurants.
When we make an adjustment for this allowing for 200 units to be completed.
The deficit increases to £362 million. In order to construct the units for the available sales income the units would have to be constructed for £63 a sq. ft.
Or if you leave out all the common areas and back of house, restaurants, tennis courts, football pitches, golf courses etc. The units would have to be built for £96 a square foot.
Says it all.
Anon 10:52………Do you have any idea why Bobby/FDNRM et alia
has the inability to grasp your information. Is he lacking some
sort of gene inn his DNA?
They will claim that these numbers are fabricated etc and you don’t know what you are talking about. In the absence of hard data, these are reasonable assumptions although I would allow for more than US$200 per square foot for top end. 120 pounds is about US$200, so would say you are being conservative if they were really seeking to achieve a 5 star finish. Also omitted from the above is interest on mortgages they are obliged to pay, as well as pre-opening expenses which are often very high, more so for the locations they have chosen, plus of course cashflowing losses, which we know to have been very large according to Harlequin’s Mark Sawkins. The above would have been patently obvious to anyone who had done any research of business plan of any sort.
To all the endless Anonymous’. Give yourselves a name or bugger off. These endless Anonymous rants aren’t making your lonly voice heard, quite the opposite, I simply scroll through hopingto avoid Erica’s mad rants.
Choose a name, and speak intelligently. There are important issues to discuss. I’m only thankfulthat Ralph (erica and dixon) have gone to greener pastures.
@ anonymous September 29 8.49pm
When I was invited by an agent to invest many years ago I asked loads of reasonable due diligence questions including the ones you have posed. I asked to see the construction programmes, contracts with the construction partner, evidence of research to support the RoI claims, evidence that the income guarantee was backed by some substantial underwriters…
The agent expressed some surprise that the promotional brochure wasn’t sufficient for me to beat his door down to sign there and then. None of my questions were ever answered and so I walked. It seemed pretty clear that the target investor was the naive kind that wouldn’t bother them with penetrating questions.
my cabana is worth a quid a brick
September 29, 2013
Why would Erica team up with the thief who stolen investors cash?
Please answer me that!!
Maybe she is getting paid by the Irish builder, £30million, not bad eh?
All the Anon’s ( lets just call you Mr X)
OK, OK I get the picture. Harlequin is up the creek without a paddle.
investors may get 4-5% back if they are lucky in a liquidation.
Sipp’s should be OK.
That’s about the gist of it?
@GBM Why do you state that Erica has teamed up with Dave Ames ? Why would she do that ?
@shafted
Good one 🙂
The Irish builder she teamed up with, Little thief
Ames is Big Thief
I agree with a previous poster, initially O’ Halloran and Ames could have both had the hands in the till, then something went wrong???
Sluts the lot of them!!!
Little Thief might get exonerated by the appeal court then little thief becomes big problem for Harlequin. But Ames does not care the losers will be investors. Ames has his exit planned. He know little thief will come after everything if exonerated. Little Thief will take what is left. No matter what happens Investors loose.
Big thief and little thief are the same, just bigger numbers.
Alas it’s the investors that will get a good shafting.
That’s the problem investors need to come to terms with, no happy ending.
Also need to realize it was all a scam from outset. No detailed build plans in place, just all set up to get commissions, not to build. No finance all set up, no escrow etc.
I have long thought that the irish builder had become part of the scam….The whole thing as anon above 11:03 says…the whole thing was never ever set up with a credible business plan, it was always grab and run
He may not have been on the fiddle at first, but once he got an insight to what was going on and how Ames was plundering whatever he could….well why not join him
I think the irish courrt case was just a charade to create a smkoescreen for HP to buy time and hopefully scam more funds into the rip off….time in any fraud is as important as the fiddled cash
Lot of peeps with hands in till on this one
Quiz Time,
When the Irish thief fraudster seen how stupid Ames was and no doubt seen others ripping him off – he thought why not?
Either way HE STOLEN INVESTORS CASH.JUST LIKE AMES.
That makes anyone associated with the Irish builder a thief too.
Are you listening Mrs Broughton?
Bob Storey (The Nuneaton Moron): By implication you have just accused Mrs Broughton of being a thief. Aren’t you a brave little Troll hiding in your Loo!
And anyone associated with Ames such as yourself a thief too. Hoisted by your own petard FDNRM
I am a thief I filled my fat rotting face with big macs from my job at mc donalds then regurgitated them into Paul Waltons mouth like the baby bird he is. He lapped it up something rotten.
@my cabana is worth a quid a brick. Ah bless poppet, let me explain something to you. I will try and make it simple as you only appear to have one brain cell. You see nasty people sometimes impersonate, oops sorry too big a word, try to make it seem someone has posted in your name. Follow so far? And guess what poppet, some nasty person has done that to me. Now while you try to understand this get your mother to bring you your tea in front of the TV, where no doubt you are trying to increase your intelligence.
The same goes for you Icu4wotur. You are such an idiot you probably believe Ralph,API etc are different people.
Some people are sooooo gullible
The cracks are appearing for IFA 😉
http://www.ifaonline.co.uk/ifaonline/news/2297616/positive-solutions-admits-error-over-harlequin-advice-offers-redress
Ames will try to stuff RL at the finishing line; the only way the toxic toad will give anything away is when he has no other choice.
The man simply can’t be trusted.
Who will pay for the trust if Ames has no money to do a survey?
My name is a good acronym to describe The Amesless One
Or maybe this one 🙂
Or maybe this one 🙂
Will Ames dare go to the investor meetings ?
Actually no I don’t follow FDRNW. no one has tried to impersonate me. And what’s all the condescending ‘poppet’ shit about? Sounds like sexism to me.
fdnrm
I used think you seemed an ok person….but I can now see you are one of lifes losers and a toal dickhead….oh and witha bit of luck you will end up behind bars as you are obviously in on the scam…people like you deserve to lose their investment
@The black peal, care to explain why you think I am a thief?
@My cabana is worth a quid a brick.
The “poppet” bit is to try and make you feel ok about yourself. You obviously have issues relating to realism and facts, (FDNRW)?
“Now, she is sad bastard taking sides with someone who stolen investors cash.
I rest my case.
Maybe, the twisted plan is for the irish builder to buy the resorts from the IP and set up a love nest with the fat one.”
You obviously thought I posted the above. WRONG
Whereas you obviously posted the following
“BOB STOREY THE NONCE OF NUNEATON
You are not well liked around here are you FDRNW/36/ Bob Storey? No one has a good word for you. You are a stupid Harlequin lackey paid to be a disruptive gobshite on forums. You don;t care about any of the other investors. You are disgusting and selfish and think only about your own self & what you have done is criminal.”
You see what YOU actually posted is childish and stupid. Did you finish you tea and have you done your homework?
From the ifaonline article posted by Gareth’s Groupies:
“Harlequin – which has taken about £400m from investors to invest in properties across the Caribbean – has been rocked by problems since the start of the year, including three alerts by the regulator, an investigation by the Serious Fraud Office and Insolvency Service, and its sales arm going into administration.”
And still some people support Harlequin, think that there is a rescue to be had, and that all will turn out ok. There is clearly unlimited optimism in the world and little critical thinking.
When the vultures have finished picking over the bones of Tailorfazed, I will put an offer in to buy the database – then give it to Mr Fatchett.
Alternatively, I may bid for the company (what’s left of it) just to stop the sissy Scottish guy from doing a pre pack 😉
Will Dave Ames turn up at the investor meetings?
To say what:
”Errrrrm the interests payments I promised you would restart, well….. I won the Irish courts case.
This errrrrmmm Trust thingy its really good, but it’s not ready yet…………just sign here don’t worry its blank trust me……because if you don’t sign today – because of the Irish builder, you will loose the whole investment
Sign now….. don’t bother with legal advice it will just cost you money and Buccament Bay is an award winning resort.
Errrrrrmmm It’s not my fault That Irish builder…………………
The client database at TM will be for sale from the liquidator.
Erm…
Ames does need to get a few other points across:
“Erm, that bloody Irish builder, who I had not yet met or heard of, made me give all your money away in commissions to agents and others. I always thought it was a bad idea, but I was naive. He talked me into it, said it would encourage them to sell to people who knew no better. I was also made to take a load of it for myself and pay my family who worked so hard behind the scenes looking after me, the chosen one. It’s not my fault I acted unethically, it was some accountant I had not yet employed or heard of made me do it. I didn’t want the money. Despite being bankrupt and having no prior business successful experience and no money, I was a millionaire anyway.
Erm, now, the fact is I did say that people would arrive to Buccament in a ferry from Barbados or St Lucia and clear customs on property. It’s not my fault that was such a stupid idea, I just did not know it was entirely infeasible. Someone should have told me, i can’t be expected to run a business and make sensible decisions. It’s not my money anyway, so why should I care? When I said the marina was almost complete, I had no idea it had not started. Erica Broughton told me it was almost finished and I was just a little naive and took her word for it. In the same way they should have told me the sites I bought were awful and my plans for the resorts ridiculous. How was I to know? So, for Buccament Bay, I had to go and buy planes to help fill the resort. I did not know you needed licenses and I did not know that they were only 9 seaters and would not be an efficient way to fill the place. Someone should have told me my times table and about local law. Anyway, you get cold towels on arrival and it has won some awards, so what does it matter if it loses money? Not my money.
Now, I can honestly say also that whilst I had not yet planning permission on any of the sites I had sold on, I did think it was a good idea to go and buy a couple of other small hotels so that investors could get a return sooner, as those other poor buggers in the other resorts will be waiting years and frankly have no chance of ever seeing a brick laid, even though someone forced me to tell them otherwise. Fortunately, I did not need to do a business plan, I am an innovator and genius so I could just feel that this was the right thing to do. Who needs business plans and structure when you are a genius maverick? I could have made that roadside Inn into a luxury 5 star hotel charging 5 star prices. I redefine luxury – cold towels etc. I was planning to charge US$95 per night and then raise it to US$700 per night one day once people knew about the place. It would have worked if it had not been for some irritating investors getting upset about me breaching their contracts. It’s their fault for signing them in the first place. As for H Hotel, that would have been open within the 6 months I had said if it was not for the laws of nature making it impossible. It is clearly is not my fault if the human body cannot perform miracles, and without getting paid.
As you can see, none of this is my fault. If you trust me, just give me some more money and Marquis Estate will be open in 10 minutes. Trust me”
Seems like Ames doesn’t not want to hand over the customer contacts to RL – that’s very odd, what has Ames to hide? A lot it would appear.
Very odd from a Man who is just on the verge of going bust and loosing 400 million quid.
Ames is in a real tail spin……….
Completions??????
Finance?????????
Do I go to the meetings???
If he gives grants access to all investors = exposure to double selling!
Brazil, ooops did I mention Brazil and the missing couple of million
Yes, in a bizarre twist he needs investors agreement or its game over.
If it all goes wrong, the SFO may well not be too keen to hang back, they don’t want to jump in if there is any chance of a resurrection happening.
Are any meetings being held in Bethany 🙂
Maybe, with his God complex Dave can part the sea and then we can drive to SVG?
This will have Ames spitting his dummy out!!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/property-club/10343795/warning-check-property-company.html
A para from the Telegraph article by Kate Faulkner that Gareth’s Groupies posted the link to above…
“As an investor, it is vital to check out a company and its directors before you give them your business. According to the accountancy firm Wilkins Kennedy LLP, estate agent insolvencies rose by 57per cent in the 12 months to June 2013. The cause is a historically low number of properties to sell or let…”
Interesting to see that ‘property guru’ Phil Spencer (who endorsed Harlequin as a good investment) is still spinning his stuff as an ‘experienced landlord’ in the side bar. Didn’t one of his companies go tits up for more than half a million?
Ironic really that employees of Wikins kennedy had an input in part to the problems of HP. Perhaps it should also read “It is vital to check out a company and its employees before you give them your business”
Bob you are just so full of shit. You have no idea what’s going on. You really don’t. Wilkins Kennedy and Co. will end up destroying Ames and he knows it.
Well you could say that Ames should have checked out the Irish builder’s company before he gave him his business AND agreed a legally binding written contract too.
The only input WK had in Harlequin’s problems was that they were morally and legally unable to agree to sign off the audited accounts because of the flimsy information and insubstantial finances that were presented to them by Harlequin.
Bobby anything of value to add about that or Phil Spencer’s endorsement of Harlequin?
So, it looks like the Four Seasons development is about to be restarted. Some very heavy hitters in the frame to take it on – should be good news for Merricks and H hotel then? Errr – probably not, a government spokesperson is reported as saying that it is of concern that the successful new partner “is actually prepared to build a hotel, and in a reasonable time frame” Somehow I doubt that Harlequin Property under either the original management or the new rescued version can be ‘trusted’ to deliver the goods. At least some people have learnt lessons from the HP debacle.
The Irish builder is getting a lot of bad press. They asked Ames repeatedly for a fidic yellow book contract. It was Ames who consistently refused. The Irish case is just one of many smoke screens. And the Irish case is being appealed. But we will have FDNRM accusing me of all sorts for saying it as it is. FDNRM will also point you in the direction of the judgement and state that Wilkins Kennedy were up to their necks in it despite Wilkins Kennedy not making an appearance. FDNRM sadly knows very little about what is going on. The Irish judge was highly critical of the International QS firm RLB but FDNRM like Ames always sidelines that issue.
The Irish case is being appealed but FDNRM and Ames have discounted this. Harlequin were awarded 0.37 % of deposits received or 0.1% of total sales. Take this in the context of the 50% of deposits paid in commissions, or the 5% of deposit money the Ames family took.
If FDNRM understood what the judge stated, the judge stated that he believed Ames that Phase 1 of Buccament Bay should have been built for £19 million, or circa 74 USD for 5 Star . Its easy to use investors money to bribe witnesses.
@Anon 9.02 Very selective in your posting. If MY copy of the Irish court case is correct then
1)MacDonald PERSUADED DA that a contract was not necessary.
2)WK were not “up to their necks” it was two of their employees, Newman and MacDonald, which was stated in the court case and involved in the fraud.
3)Why do you think I have discounted an appeal? I have made no comment regarding an appeal as I know no details of it.
4)Who bribed who? Care to put some meat on that accusation? Was the judge bribed.
@EL2. So are you saying that there was a legally binding contract with the Irish builder? This is somewhat contrary to what everyone else believes.
So you dont think that WK employees had anything at all to do with HP problems, like forced to resign or being investigated by the IOCA? As to Phil Spencer, WTF is he?
Bribes you ask, meat on the bones? Government officials in the Caribbean, witnesses in court cases, forged documents, forged architects certificates, the list goes on.
MacDonald is not an employee of Wilkins Kennedy, he is an equity partner not that you would understand what that means.
MacDonald was not in court so are we to believe what Ames said about him as being true?
Ames promised to build resorts for 5000 + investors yet failed miserably to do so.? So can he be really believed?
You consistently call the Irish builder a fraudster, yet you know there is an appeal but heh if Ames says the builder is a fraudster who are you to question that. You want to believe Ames go ahead. Ames is a pathological liar who pays people to lie for him. FACT. Dalligan, Manderfield (ex Harlequin), Taylor, Terry, to name but a few of the lying scum that Ames surrounds himself with.
Where is the £400 million FDNRM. You have never answered one question asked of Harlequin.
You like Ames will continue the blame game. Why do you not raise the issue of RLB.? They were chastised by the judge for their involvement in the fraud. Why not mention them.
What about Panama FDNRM, how were those investors repaid. ? Or Australia, the resort sold out but never built ? Liquidation WILL happen.
What about Panama and Australia? Details or summary please.
Bob you fool. Why would a sailing association investigate accountants? (IOCA)
It is IACEW you pillock. And Phil Spencer is a supposed property expert who had a number of UK TV Shows, ” Location, Location, Location” and ” Relocation, Relocation” both on channel 4. His own Company Garrington Home Finders Ltd went into administration.
He was a big fan of Harlequin and Dave Ames having been paid handsomely to endorse the Harlequin product.
Bob you are a complete ignorant pathetic idiot and an apologist for the fraudster Ames.
Please peddle your unintelligent ramblings somewhere else. You really are a true ambassador for Harlequin, demonstrating very low intellect and no understanding of any of issues surrounding Harlequin.
Ames sold out a development in Panama in 2006 that was never built with a business partner of his Bob Kainth. He sold out a development in Perth Australia in 2008 called Ravenswood on land owned by his in laws the Kellihers. This was never built either and then you have Thailand. You might find that not only was investor money paid over for a particular development not used for that development but might have been used to refund previous investors.
Ames has previous.
He goes from one scam to the next, a true conman, cannot be reasoned with and to consider doing business with him is foolhardy in the extreme. He will eventually go to jail or he will flee with all the stolen money. FDNRM is in the Harlequin scam up to his neck too.
Ames is scum.
FDNRM would ague with a speak your weight machine. The evidence is overwhelming and still he continues to contradict and twist posters’ words. What a horrible life he must lead. Nothing to do all day except desperately try to save his paymaster Ames.
@Anon/Anonymous/Anonymous/Anonymous (you are starting to look a bit stupid not being able to think up a name)
Of course I know the difference between an employee and a partner, looks like I touched a nerve there then. And I’m quoting from the court judgement, or was the judge bribed?
Bribery? PROOF you idiot. Listing a number of supposed actions means nothing. Thought you would know that being an intelligent? person.
What about Panama and Australia, I know absolutely nothing about them. How about my car needs two new tyres? Care to comment about that? Or perhaps you would like me to comment on the budget problems in the US?
I see there is no comment about the IACEW investigating Newman and MacDonald then? Is it not happening?
And you think I am supposed to know who Phil Spencer is? Why should I?
@EL2 firstly well done for not hiding behind the ID of Anon etc etc. Having said that you obviously dont like a different view to your own. And my life if fine thank you for asking.
It’s so simple, the Irish lying scum ripped of the English lying scum.
It would help if all the anon posters could give themselves an ID, just so we can follow an individual’s point of view rather than a comment coming from one of many. Even if it was just a number or something simple. You wouldn’t have to reveal anything personal.
@Sid, you might find that all the Anon/Anonymous posters are the same person.
@FDNRM.
But they are both lying scum. Interest payments were going to be restarted by July – that’s what Ames said in front of his investors.
What do you sat to that?
I suspect he won’t say anything — he tends not to address direct questions like that. If he does, he’ll blame it on the Irish builder/WK/Erica/that journalist at the Echo, or a combination of these.
FDNRM likes to forget that he stubbornly clung to his own anonymity until it was taken from him. Now he simultaneously criticises it in others whilst getting worked up about the fact that his was removed.
I would suspect that it is the software/board interface that leads to the profusion of anonymous posters, as opposed to any sinister bombardment by one individual (it seems fairly clear that the syntactic variations and habitual spelling errors across different postings confirm that it is not just one individual — I would have thought that any fool could see that). Sid’s point is a fair one though — as they usually are.
It’s nice of you to say so Ted. I’m just trying to keep my opinions as balanced as possible until we know where we stand.
@Ted, he did say that, shortly before Erica’s husband said he would F****K kill Ames I was at the meeting and seen it for myself – were you?
Shaun Ghents has to step it
Ames may be guilty of not being very articulate, I agree with that.
He is not, as much as it pains me say it, stupid.
Far from it.
I seen him work the ‘crowd’ in investor meetings, he seamlessly moves from a ‘difficult’ question to an easy one.
Unless the ‘difficult’ questioner is persistent it remains unanswered.
It’s very well done indeed.
Apologies @Scum or Scum, I was talking about FDNRM not responding to the question – I know that Ames said that. Sorry for not being clearer.
I too was at Warrington, unfortunnately you are wrong her hubbby a big fucker I wouldnt want to taccle was shooting at a Tailormaid guy
I was waiting around to have a word with Dave at the endd of the meating and they was all nicey nicey it does make you think if it is all a set up think abowt it
@Ted, you are forgetting something very fundamental.It should be my choice if I want to remove my anonymity, not the right of others. I changed my ID, and posted the fact to FDNRM to state my position.
Also my post was in direct answer to one previous. Perhaps how could explain how a forum doesnt work in simple terms.
poster 1: the weather in the UK is not very nice today
poster 2: Its ok where I am.
Poster 3: Why did you not comment about the weather in France?
You see the answer is only relevant to the original post.
I’m sure you will get the hang of it one day.
By the way do you think that Ralph/API is one person?, .
I seen it i was at the front, he is not big only about 5ft 4 but looks fat, erica was shouting at ames and sean gent had to restrain him, he did shout something like that.
why you telling lies – it was infront of a few hundered people and even erica omitted it.
does it matter, the money has gone along with my council penstion
Oooookay, FDNRM I have a little time, so…
“@Ted, you are forgetting something very fundamental.It should be my choice if I want to remove my anonymity, not the right of others.”
I don’t disagree, but if that if that is your position why have you demanded that other posters post their full names and details of their investments etc before you will respond to them — and why do you get so worked up about the notion of anonymity in general? Do they not share your right to this? Seems a little contradictory.
“I changed my ID, and posted the fact to FDNRM to state my position.”
And extremely clever of you it was too. Must feel great to see how things are currently unfolding with this in mind.
“Also my post was in direct answer to one previous. Perhaps how could explain how a forum doesnt work in simple terms.
poster 1: the weather in the UK is not very nice today
poster 2: Its ok where I am.
Poster 3: Why did you not comment about the weather in France?
You see the answer is only relevant to the original post.”
I’m afraid you’ve rather lost me with this one (and not just because of the grammar in the first sentence). I was talking about your habit of avoiding direct questions in general, but you seem to have erroneously misinterpreted this (I *think*) as some sort of failure on my part to understand the topography of internet fora — not to worry though, I’m sure you’ll have a little personal jibe about how that’s somehow my fault in order to deflect attention and bolster your sense of self worth. Oh…
“I’m sure you will get the hang of it one day.”
Here it is! How intelligent of you to make this strange and unnecessary little (non)dig.
“By the way do you think that Ralph/API is one person?”
I neither know, nor care. It is so peripheral to the massive — and massively serious — core issues, that I can only judge any attempt to focus on it as an attempt to distract from what should really be being discussed. What I can say with some certainty, is that not all of the posters above posting anonymously are the same person; I don’t claim to be any sort of expert, but even a basic knowledge of forensic linguistics makes that very apparent.
On a general, and far more important note, some of the accusations that are being, and have been, levelled are very serious. I have no idea any more where the truth of any of these lie (and this goes for the ‘for’ and and ‘against’ camps), but it is striking how many of the recent suggestions have gone unanswered. I am staggered that the authorities are taking such a passive position when the stakes are so high; the consequences to all of this are very serious, and it’s very clear that people need proper help and proper information — it seems that they are getting neither. The ongoing lack of actual meaningful, detailed information nurtures a sense that there may be something to hide.
@I was watchin……………
An appalling attempt at trying to write like an under-educated person – why would you do that?
@Ted, because in many cases the comments were of a personal nature based on my personal details being put onto this forum. If you have read any of the previous posts going back to Aug the 11th then you would see what I mean. Blocked phone calls which I have chased down to the originator. If you have a “little time” I suggest you read through what you have written before you post it and remove the sarcasm. I am not in the slightest bit interested in anyones opinion of me or their thoughts on my “self worth”
Correct grammar and spelling as you seem fit, it seems it something you like to do.
I’ve been here for a long time FDNRM and I am very well aware of what has occurred. I would respectfully suggest that if you think that making comments of a personal nature is uncalled for, you resist the temptation to do so yourself — likewise, if you have an aversion to sarcasm, perhaps hold off on it in your posts. I’m sure that Erica at least, would see a degree of hypocrisy in your previous message (and no, I’m not her, I’ve never met her, I know nothing about her).
As I say, I’m not defending for a second the fact that you were publicly named and certainly not the disclosure of your personal details — though from what I understand, the “blocked phone call” was in fact “a” blocked phone call and I struggle to see why that is something that would elicit such consternation (though could, of course, if there were a number of them).
I didn’t actually correct any spelling or grammar (and didn’t even mention the former) so I’m not sure what you’re basing that on — or why you’d leave with a dig like that. I think you can be fairly safe in the knowledge that no one’s particularly interested in your “self worth,” they may be more interested though in any attempt to deflect attention from the main issues in this matter.
I am sure that people would be genuinely interested to hear your genuine, considered and reasoned take on the current state of affairs. You’ve been here for a while, and should have a useful perspective. I’m not talking about an evasive answer, or an allusion to things that “people don’t understand,” or a blame game; I’m talking about your actual perspective and how you see this unfolding and why.
@TED: Clear, concise and intelligible reasoning. Unfortunately in FDNRM you are dealing with a sad person who has a no moral compass or empathy with those that have genuinely lost so much. He’s on this forum (and others) to disrupt and gain nothing but an egotistical high. He’s a dot on the page of life -infinitesimally small and will be totally irrelevant and a very lonely example of the human species (and a loo hogging ipad abuser) once the Harlequin debacle has been put to bed once and for all.
@icu4wotur, a dot am I? And you cannot stop posting about a dot. Says a lot for your sad life doesn’t it.
@FDNRM: SOoooooooooooooo. predictable. Get back in your Loo you LITTLE DOT! LOL, Ha, Ha, Ha etc etc
@icu4woturic stop stalking me and get a life. In fact all you post about is me. Is this some sort of obsession.
@fdnrm
Care to offer an opinion on the current state of affairs? My own view is that liquidation is inevitable and a rescue plan can and will not work. What’s your considered view?
I don’t have all the details to make an informed opinion. I don’t like the idea of liquidation because that is the aim of Ralph/API and do we know who they are? I could make a guess.
“I dont have all the details to make an informed opinion” we will all remember who said that will we not,I await the sarcasm which we all know will follow that will put me in my place,so much easier than answering a question or giving an opinion,When Dave says jump just ask how high
You see Anon, ask a question, give an answer and some idiot who does not like the answer comes up with crap as per above. So not really worth trying to answer the question in the first place is it.
@clod, (clod lol) have you got an opinion or do you just spout crap?
Fdnrm – Fair point. Ralph I know but who’s API?
@fdnrm my opinion is anyone who has lost money with hp were not very well advised
Either Bob is an idiot, or he is being paid to block any attempt by folks to discuss the Harlequin mess. Weather he is FDNRM, 36 or Bob …its the same idiot.The best approach is to totally ignore him. Do not respond to his childish challenges.You will get nowhere because he is being paid to sit on the loo with his i pad and cause distractions to reasoned comment.
He will go the way of Harlisuccess, yorkipoo and other assholes.Oblivion.
Spell check..should be wether, not weather.
Whether
@DADNPM, how many attempts at spell check do you need? You recommend people ignore me and then you put up a rather long winded post about me. How bizarre. .
this discussion is all about me. ME I tell you…… me. I want to be the centre of attention and I will create any drama all about me me me me me me. I will even alter what people say so that the discussion reflects on me. I love me and I am a self centred selfish git . its all ericas fault and the irish builder and the accoutnant and WK cos Dave said so.
On a serious note, what is Ames going to talk about in the forthcoming investor meeting?
He will be savaged, you have to give him a teeny weeny bit of credit for turning up?
Well okay, you don’t 😉
@BOB FDNRM writes…. In the last 24 hours there have been 14 posts from people posting about me to which I have replied 9 times. So yes it is about me in the eyes of others, I dont know why but so many people have such sad lives, including you.
Email from RL sent this morning:
All,
Investor Trust
We have agreed with Harlequin that we will draft the trust document with our barristers. This avoids any suggestion that the drafting of the trust document has not been done independently. We will be using specialist counsel from No5 http://www.no5.com to assist us in the drafting.
Harlequin Invite
Harlequin are going to invite all investors to the meetings. We should have a good turn out of investors at the meetings and in order to make sure we have the correct size venue, you need to book on the via the website.
The venue information will be released only to those people who have booked on with us. We cannot have the situation where we have a room for 50 and 200 people turn up !
PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU BOOK ON VIA THE WEBSITE.
London / Basildon Date
We have moved the dates by two days to accommodate the attendance of David Ames. Please refer to the new dates.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Forgive me FDNRM, but you didn’t answer my question. To say “I don’t have all the details to make an informed opinion” isn’t really good enough — furthermore though, it enormously problematises your position in general: If you are not in receipt of enough information to make an informed opinion, why are you so steadfast in your views. It seems an admission that your position is made on instinct — which isn’t really befitting of the circumstances.
It also confuses me as to how you can follow that by saying…
“I don’t like the idea of liquidation because that is the aim of Ralph/API and do we know who they are?”
Because either you have the information, or you don’t. Why consider yourself able to speculate on one half of this, but not the other. It seems disingenuous. Ultimately it could only be…
“I could make a guess.”
Yep, a guess. But why only guess about this?
With respect, you managed to find time to issue antagonistic replies to other messages before actually addressing — or in fact, not addressing — the question I asked you, which is something that doesn’t make a great deal of sense to me. Also, I politely asked that you find an a response that doesn’t rely on the blame game — but you weren’t capable of doing so.
I actually don’t think that this is a personal vendetta against you, as much as an attempt to get you to substantiate what you are saying. You are the only person who regularly posts on here in support of Harlequin, that being the case — and with the stakes being what they are — it doesn’t seem unreasonable to expect you to be able to actually articulate your position. You are constantly on a passive, negative standing, rather than actively engaging and ultimately that just seems dubious.
I reiterate, I am essentially open minded here and am willing to form an opinion based on the information as it presents itself. From an objective point of view, I struggle to see why you aren’t able to make a stronger case for your position or actually properly refute the arguments made. All your rhetoric appears to rely on apportioning responsibility to other parties: this isn’t good enough.
Wow Ted, you spent all that time writing about me. You have posted on here 5 times any every post has been about me. “Forgive me FDNRM, but you didn’t answer my question.” Well guess what Ted, I have no intention of answering your question. A forum is a place where people can post their thoughts and opinions. They do not have to justify them to anyone. Got it.
Whoops! There you go again FDNRM getting angry and aggressive, but not actually addressing anything — so now I’m wondering why that would be?
You’re quite right, I have posted 5 times about you, but as I said above not because I have any interest in you but because I would like to know why you hold the opinions that you do — they might have some relevance here (let’s be honest, the broad swathe of opinion seems to issue in one direction).
I would take issue with your point about the fact that a forum doesn’t implicitly mandate some sort of substance to the opinions presented; notwithstanding that however, there is clearly something very suspect about an opinion that is so vehemently asserted with such a resistance to substantiation.
Wooops Ted, posting about me again. “there is clearly something very suspect about an opinion that is so vehemently asserted with such a resistance to substantiation” In your mind perhaps, but guess what I dont give a shit whats in your mind. I would suggest you stop obsessing about what is in mine. Its not healthy..
Hi FDNRM, you are frequently asked on here as to what your personal opinion is of HP and what your hopes are for the future. Yet I don’t recall you ever offering a direct response when asked and do wonder why. You are clearly in the know and have what I believe is a wealth of information that could be put to good use if you were to share it. You seem to always think people are looking to catch you out or expose you, but maybe less informed investors are actually looking up to you as someone who might have something of value to offer. I’m sure your opinion would be welcomed and appreciated by many if you were to share it. We’re all in this together so should be helping one another, shouldn’t we? If not, what’s the point on being on here?
Bob knows nothing just is hoping Dave will stick to his dirty little deal – thats all.
It’s all coming to ahead very soon 😉
An intelligent commentator who wishes to express an opinion will take whatever information he or she has available and come to an opinion based “ON THE BALANCE OF PROBABILITY” The opinion will then ALWAYS be informed and the only question is how informed.
A commentator who states that he or she has no opinion because he or she does not have sufficient information has no business making ANY comments and that includes disparagement of those who have expressed a comment based on the information THEY HAVE to hand.
Naturally such reasoning is lost on those who have their own agenda which will include rubbishing any opinion which differs to the one they have been unable to articulate and nothing is ever going to change there.
Fatchett’s little plan looks after a few, allows Ames to walk and gives everyone else basically a high risk investment which could need on going funding. Fantastic Rescue “NOT”. The plan as proposed will mean investors give up their contracts to Fatchett. And joining a trust. A new company takes on the management of the resorts. Ames gets the boot.
Beware of Greeks or in this case Indians bearing gifts.
Yes, that is the way that the civil courts work in Ireland. The judge in that case looked at the available information and assertions by both sides and came to the opinion that “ON THE BALANCE OF PROBABILITY” the money taken from investors by Ames and given to O’Halloran should have only been used for the building of Buccament Bay despite no written contract being in place and hence found in Harlequin’s favour.
Incidentally the Judge NEVER concluded that any crime had ever taken place it was only ever a breach of implied contract. Also it was never an option for the Judge to say that he didn’t have sufficient information and therefore could not decide between the two parties; he was duty bound to make a decision based on the available information i.e. evidence, not whether that evidence was “informed enough” (had O’Halloran said that he had clear evidence that he was entitled to use the money how he saw fit but couldn’t show the court then the Judge would have had no option but to ignore it and form an opinion based on what information he did have. And that is the way that all intelligent people come to an opinion.
In the wider context of the entire Harlequin project, Harlequin have patently held back information (accounts) that might have supported their assertion that they have acted properly on behalf of their investors, or maybe the withheld information might have made it clear that harlequin have acted improperly throughout. However In the absence of that information a wary investor is not only right to be suspicious of Harlequin’s motives but would be downright stupid to think otherwise. In the world of investment, no news is always bad news (assuming you have made the effort to get it) and any decisions that need to be taken should be based on that assumption.
And there you go again FDNRM.
I’m happy to repeat myself because it’s important.
“Wooops Ted, posting about me again. “there is clearly something very suspect about an opinion that is so vehemently asserted with such a resistance to substantiation” In your mind perhaps, but guess what I dont give a shit whats in your mind. I would suggest you stop obsessing about what is in mine. Its not healthy..”
I’m not obsessing about what’s in your mind, I’m keen to know why you are convinced that things with Harlequin are not as other people see them. I think it’s important. I’m sure that I’m not alone in being desperately hopeful that there may be some way out of this for those people who stand to lose substantially — the counter point of view to the general consensus here is very important, but without substance it’s meaningless. I don’t think that’s so unhealthy — in fact, I think quite the opposite.
The standard petulant rebuttal about “not giving a shit” (how old are you?) doesn’t really wash: I’m perplexed as to why you would get so worked up about this, and would be so resistant to engage in mature, meaningful dialogue.
FDNRM sole role is to antagonise and disrupt reasoned debate and discussion on the issues surrounding Harlequin. Anyone who speaks negatively of the Ames family or Harlequin is subjected to a torrent of sometimes highly offensive verbal diarrhea or diarrhoea (can be spelt both ways). FDNRM represents all that is rotten and wrong with Harlequin.
And is typical of the disdain and contempt which Ames and his wife have towards anyone who might dare question both the ethics and morals of the Ames family and Harlequin.
FDNRM spends his time jumping from forum to forum attacking variius posters and questioning the veracity of the information being supplied by rubbishing the information without providing reasoned argument or proof that information being provided is inaccurate.
@ANON 1.38 I proved the excel spread sheet was doctored. As you obviously jump from forum to forum you should have remembered that. ooops
No FDNRM you “claimed” not “proved” that the excel sheet was doctored. Neither did you provide any documentary proof to demonstrate any anomalies with the sheet. Nor could you state with conviction or proof who doctored the sheet instead, making implications that the sheet was doctored by those with anti Harlequin agendas.
no you didn’t Fdnrm!
Hang on a minute, dates for the investor meetings have to be changed as Ames cant make it?
WTF does he think he is?
As I see it, he is going to be asking investors to relinquish their contracts and join his trust, effectively downsizing, still with no guarantees of any further finance, so it will no doubt still fall over.
And why are we being asked to do this?
Basically so he can continue for a little while longer and save his ass…. Yet he cant be bothered to turn up for important meetings…. Am I missing something?
Bob, no answers from you please, your pro Harlequin rhetoric has become very tedious and tiresome.
@WDBK YES I DID. My own personal Cabana was incorrect. If it was 100% accurate then I’m sure Laura Millar would have published the information. But she choose not to do so. It contradicted the .post of Ralphs when he/she/they etc decided to post details of my contract on BFP. So you detectives out there, which was right then? Perhaps as per Anon 1.29 the “balance of probability” that it was doctored should suffice. Facts are facts, the excel spread sheet was inaccurate.
C’mon FDNRM, I think it’s fair to say that you carry the brightest torch of all of the pro-HP investors, so give us all some good news. Tell us why you are such a satisfied investor? You never know, you may well turn the tide of opinion. There’s obviously something you know that we don’t that might make us all feel much more positive about the situation we find ourselves in. Go on, tell us your secret….
Isn’t it uncanny that when Bob FDNRM gets asked really awkward questions, the diction and grammar in his replies improve remarkably? Could it possibly be that he is being cajoled by someone from the Harlequin PR office?
Gee – You mean to say that HD still has a PR Office. That is
going to look great on someone’s c.v. They have done one hell
of a job.
Katharine Manderfield (HP Network Sales Director) did one hell of a good job in promoting the Harlequin business model and the properties too. She ‘believed’ it so much she claimed she invested in seven or was it eight cabanas on the beach at Buccament Bay. So shove up Bob Storey cos Katharine’s cabanas take precedence over yours.
News on the grapevine…………….. Walton used to sell for Tailormade
Does Katharine advise you what to say BobFDNRM?
Walton is a mason.
we are now heading to 2014 (not far off). how ironic that as far back as 2006 concerns were raised via various forms regarding this investment. directors of companies who were instrumental in the sale of this ignored all the concerns and chose to promote this- why??? i reported this scheme on 2 occasions. i have no formal pension qualifications BUT to promote and recommend a full transfer into an unregulated, non protected, non escrowed, no track record investment to me seemed pretty “high risk” .shame the the other fully qualified IFA’s chose to ignore this basic TCF requirement because they perhaps thought they could get way with it
This was first touted as a scam all over the Caribbean business community back in 2006, as stated above, and many forums raised valid questions, and each one was shut down by Carter Ruck and co, until Harlecon came along a few years later, long after thousands had been scammed. Incredible it has lasted this long and the Ames walk free.
@EL2 any comment about the discredited excel spread sheet. In fact do you have an opinion about anything apart from an opinion about me. Why not comment about the issues rather than post about me. I’m flattered, but don’t understand your rhetoric. 3 posts tonight, all about me. Why?
@what does bob know. You have gone very quiet. I guess you now understand that the excel spread sheet was flawed.
I am thinking about moving to StVincent and living in my cabana. I have only paid 30 per cent,but have nowhere else to live,I have not received a single penny from my investment. What do you all think of that ?
Wow – You would be putting your life at risk. Bobby (fdnrm) used to
rant on and on and on about crime in Barbados to Merricks investors.
He has gone very quiet of late. Read ( I-witness-news.com ) and
you will find that there is at least one murder per week in St Vincent.
The island is lawless and governed by an out and out Hugo Chavez
fellow-traveler. Sad really but my guess is that BB will win d up
in a year or two as a squatters compound……Good Luck !!!
Hang on a moment this has gone too far!!!
I have been accused of many things on BFP, mainly to do with unnatural sexual exploits with just about anyone, Gareth Fatchett, Richard Ingham, FDNRM, Dave Ames etc etc.
But I do take offence at this latest slur working for TailorMade
( in liquidation) That’s just unkind!
The comment about Freemasonry, I have been involved for nearly 30 years but I fail to see how that is relevant to anything??
Hi Paul W, how do you manage to juggle Freemasonary with such a complicated love life?
It’s tricky, but now TM is in liquidation, I will have a little more time 😉
Hi Paul, Can you give me an answer to why no one, API/RL are answering the question I have posed on the RL blog regarding the Redbook that API made a great fuss about posting on line or sending through the mail. Was it received?
@FDNRM: Because you are a non-entity LITTLE DOT. (Pot and Kettle come to mind regarding not answering RELEVANT question). LOL.Ha, Ha, etc etc
now TM are in liquidation does anyone have any info on other agents such as invest5star among others
Not a Twitter from Invest5star about Harlequin since April 2013. And they were really thick with Dave and Carol et al.
But never fear because the lovely Kim W is now involved in one of the latest multi-level marketing gimmicks to hit the UK – Vi. She’s a hard working lass and was last seen in Amesbury and Salisbury flogging a ‘Weight Loss & Fitness Platform’. Seems it involves imbibing pouches of organic seaweed, extruded iguana pooh and macerated bus tickets over 90 Days.
Whatever happened to whatshisname? the welsh one? name escapes me.
@EL2 well done a post without not mentioning me. I’m impressed.
Now if only we could get a post from Bobby without
him mentioning himself…….that would be impressive.
@Anon, go onto RL. Trying to get the truth from Ralph/API but sooooo difficult.
FDNRM how much is Ames paying you to make a fool of yourself. Just looked at RL site, you are being as disruptive as you can be. You are a clown. You really are stupid.
Go away you fool.
Bob I feel sorry for most people who are going to loose their money, but the more you harp on about absolutely nothing the more you turn readers like me against Harlequin and the Ames family.
As an ambassador for Harlequin you are doing an excellent job in demonstrating that this was a terrible investment.
You appear inarticulate, ignorant and uneducated. A Baffoon. @ Anonymous there is no point in asking Bob to go away, he will not. He apparently believes everything Ames tells him. Bob thought this investment would make him rich, he thought that the fraudster Ames would make him rich. Being a fool and greedy don’t mix well. As was once said there is one born every minute.
And here come the stooges, Anon/Anonymous (just waiting for the other Anons to turn up) If you idiots want to believe everything that Ralph/API post then thats up to you. But there again perhaps you are closer to Ralph/API than you let on.
#FDNRM I have invested in Buccament Bay. You seem happy. I don’t know what to do. Do you think everything is just bad PR and that Mr. Ames is going to keep his word. I don’t want to rock the boat. I think Harlequin are ok. Should I stick it out? Have you any advice, I could do with something positive. My whole life savings is gone into this. I am very worried.
@ GS Bob / FDNRM is a freak. He will not answer your questions. He is paid by Harlequin to disrupt and antagonise. He is a pathetic excuse of a man. He lost his job and spends his days attacking everyone.
He is just a stupid twisted horrid individual.
Also, you mustn’t be mistaken into thinking that Bob is so gullible and inarticulate partly due to him being immature. Believe it or not, he’s in his 60s!!! Just goes to show what happened when people were allowed to leave full time education before they were able to read and write properly.
I think he’s genetically thick though. No amount of education could have made him bright enough to spot a scam like Harlequin. He can’t even spot it now despite hovering on this forum for years, reading all the overwhelming evidence, and arguing against it like a retard!
fsnrm, is an example of what happens when you let cousins inter breed
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring boring boring
Bob you gonna answer George you fucking freak. ?
Nice
@FDNRM Bob RL have answered your question on the valuation but for their purposes it is out of date. Could be the 2009 valuation that is out of date. The one you claim is bogus. Pull out the IPAD and get onto RL and interrogate them. Cmon Bob. You keep making statements. Cmon wakey wakey you fool.
To all readers and contributors of this forum. Bob Storey aka FDNRM aka 36 etc etc etc is keeping copies of all the nasty things being said about him and reporting the online abuse to the police. Tick tock, tick tock everyone. Bob is doing this because all you nasty people are attacking him and Saint Dave. Mr. Ames is an honourable decent citizen who was misguided by dodgy accountants and business advisers. He was robbed by every contractor and engineering firm.working for him. All controlled by the nasty Irish builder who made everyone turn on Mr..Ames. Even everyone on this site who questions Ames is working for the Irish builder. Even RL.and Garreth Flatface are under the Irish man’s spell. The property in Dubai was not bought by Mr. Ames it was Mr. Newham who made Mr.Ames buy the property.
When he books flights with Virgin, Virgin make him travel upper class. They force him against his will.
He wants to give to everyone who wants to get their money back.
But he gets threatened by some dodgy east end people who force him not to give the money back. The resorts could all.have been finished but those corrupt Caribbean countries will not give him planning permission. They also made him bribe them. But he told the BBC that it was not he who bribed anyone it was MaxDonald.
He knew the banks would give him no money, he did need it. He told the Caribbean governments that he was bigger then Donald Trump. Trump needed bank money. Mr. Ames did not. Dan Ames played for the UK youth team in international football, bet you never knew that.
Wonder if I will be allowed access to the RL meeting after my embarrassing episode last time? I showed everybody what a fat little prick I was so I only have myself to blame!
To make it up to Dave I may offer him Erica for a night – I could tempt him by getting her to wear her short skirt an no bloomers – giving him a glimpse of her keema naan (a shaved fanny with the very tip of the bacon sticking out!)
More chance with Erica than my daughter Steph – she’s as rough as a Skeggie Donkey – a bint that will let anybody get their leg over for a quid and has flies all around her arsehole!
The comment above is a sad endorsement of Ames and his loyal supporters. As ambassadors for Harlequin and for UK investors the comment above is neither humorous nor intelligent. If this is the best that Ames and his loyal band of dysfunctional supporters can up with then investors never had a hope with this company.
Ames by nature is a coward. But will encourage others to behave in a manner that is or should be embarrassing to us brits.
Ames took £400 million and through his total lack of management skills, allowed this money to be squandered. Now he seeks to blame everyone but himself for his business model which has from the offset been challenged and in the absence of external finance could never have worked.
And now once again we have an attack on someone who’s only sin was to have invested in Harlequin. Someone like thousands of others who fell for the sales gimmicks of Harlequin and parted with their hard earned cash. And who after many years asked for their cash back albeit in a more vociferous manner then many.
So do the genuine public condone the sad and infantile attacks on those investors who wish to speak out.? I do not think so.
In the better times Ames used Carter Ruck to silence any criticism of his business model. Now that he no longer has the resources to fund Mssr’s Carter Ruck he resorts to using anonymous blog sites such as this in order to attack any one who dares raise in a public way issues with respect to his companies. He hopes that these sorts of mindless, sad and pathetic attacks will cause other investors to think twice before being more vocal about the issues they have with Harlequin.
Ames of course will deny any culpability in these attacks.
He is however directly culpable. He is after all the person along with his wife and sons who took investors money and engaged in fraudulent misrepresentation and massive deceit.
As an American I want to thank who posted above. It is incredible
the infantile antics that occur here. (But also as an American I am
equally ashamed at the infantile antics occurring in my Congress.
Has the world truly gone mad?)
And what about your government almost reaching its borrowing limit, having now borrowed £16.7 TRILLION!!!!! SHIT!!!!! What are the monthly repayments on that?!
Once America goes bankrupt, we’re all up shit creek.
Sorry about that, of course it’s $16.7 trillion, not £16.7 trillion, so not as bad as it could be. Phew.
@The worst of Brittain, while I for one do not condone the type of comment posted above, after all I have been subject to the same rhetoric, dont forget that the one your are talking about “who’s only sin is to have invested in Harlequin” did drive past someones house taking photographs of their house, accuse them of employing an PI and was advised by the police to stop their actions. I would suggest you have a short memory.
@ICU4WOTUR,”Unfortunately as this forum is a free for all, it gives licence to the uneducated, unethical and downright puerile sentiments of the moronic few” Well you fit right into that description dont you. Talk about hypocrite.
I’m not British you bunch of fucktards! Funny what assumptions are made on here! Crack on morons!
Also bit fuckwitted to think Ames has any influence on my posts? I fucking hate Ames and I hate the Broughtons too!
SVG is a crime ridden horrible little corrupt island. When you drive to Buccament Bay you are glad you are not on foot – feels unsafe and dirty. Once on the resort you don’t want to leave.
Buccament Bay is an unfinished building site in the middle of noware with a false beach that’s eroding. They pump sewerage into the sea at night.
The interest payments will NEVER START
The 10% return WILL NEVER BE PAID
The other resorts WILL NEVER GET BUILT
Investors will NEVER GET THEIR MONEY BACK
Harlequin will GO BUST
AMES MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH THIS
WTF is back I better not see him at the meetings I will be watching
Worriedinvestor – is that rhyming slang for child molestor? What has my comment got to do with WTF?
Having met WTF I wouldn’t get too mouthy! Get ready for a second prize if you front him up tough guy!
@Worriedinvestor, what has SVG got to do with you. Your investment is in the DR. What’s more I doubt you have ever been there.
All this slanging match on here….yet the con man and his bought cronies all walk around free spend your money like water…..you need to get it all sotered, you are behaving like rabitts in headlights, whats the matter dont you want to accept the truth the dream is over and it isnt going to happen, recover what you can and extract your revenge by making sure Ames goes behind bars
no wonder so many gave so much to a con man, even easier than stealing the collection tin from the blind shop
Even a blind man – do you have anything to say apart from the obvious that has been regurgitated by the know it alls hundreds of times before? Think your smart you spastic?
WorriedInvestor – John, why would you wish not to see me at the meeting, can you please clarify?
Is it the embarrassment of the whole PI/ harassment police investigation too much of an embarrassment to take?
Just to clarify, I have not posted for many weeks so do not assume I insult you!
I will be at the meeting, I won’t be hiding, so come and introduce yourself, takes more of a man to do that than hide behind your keyboard.
I do not condone violence but if you wish to operate on that level then I won’t shy away? Next time your outside my house taking photographs of my house and kids for your perverted wife you might be man enough to ring the doorbell!
I personally want to go to the investor meetings, listen what RL have to say and Dave Ames; without witnessing Erica Broughtons hysterical out bursts or her husbands violent ways.
If investors feel the need to act in such ways, they should not attend and spoil in for the more civalised investors, who have some capacity for sound reasoning and judgement.
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Well said Isabelo!
I forgot to mention Dave Ames – we don’t need to be told about:
– the Irish builder
– you won the court case
– WK
– the £30 million case against WK
– BB awards
– negative press
But do what to know:
– finance payments?
– ROI?
-cash investment?
-Brazil?
– other resorts?
– will you step aside?
– £400 million?
– what’s the ‘rescue plan’ do you have one.? The time for bullshit is over
Isabelo – if investors had any capacity whatsoever for sound reasoning and judgement they would not have become investors in the first place.
Anonymous well worked on you mong – very helpful
Cannot think why you want to listen to Ames. Each time you say, time for bullshit is over. Then he bullshits you, and you go back again 6 months later saying time for bullshit is over. And the cycle repeats itself, as it has for many years now. The world knows he is a lying conman, yet you still want to listen to him. Why?
JPB – you are a degenerate. Do you think making repulsive sexual comments about fannies, bacon etc or calling people mongs and spastics is “helpful”? You really are a vulgar, hateful excuse for a human being. I don’t expect that you are married or have children but if you are I wonder what your wife or children or maybe your mother would think about the vile filth that you write. I’m sure they’d be really proud of you.
@Anonymous? the poster engaging in this embarrassing tirade is doing nothing to further the discussions pertaining to Harlequin.
Bob Storey is using a similar tactic but in his case rather than resorting to infantile and downright disgusting comments, Mr. Storey’s style is to question and demand evidence again in a most infantile manner on issues raised by posters.
Both of these posters refuse to partake in meaningful debate on the issues at the heart of the matter.
What both of these posters are attempting to achieve is to divert attention away from the very serious matters surrounding Harlequin.
There is no excuse or reason for anyone to use the expletives being used by JBP unless their sole purpose is to disgust individuals to such an extent that they will cease to visit this particular blog site.
As stated previously Ames will deny culpability but it is Ames who is responsible for this. No one else.
And as stated previously such infantile behaviour does nothing to promote future investment in the Caribbean.
Harlequin and their investors are becoming the laughing stock of the business community throughout the Caribbean. The tragic events surrounding Harlequin are being overshadowed by the absolute ignorance of a few who might honestly believe that through their actions they will be able to turn the public perception of Harlequin into a positive one by attacking all those who dare question Ames and Harlequin.
Harlequin as a business in it’s current form has failed spectacularly, and the individuals with responsibility for this are the Ames family and their senior management.
Despite the expletive attacks and infantile approach to the debate the fact remains that Harlequin as a business is finished and investors will loose most of their money.
Harlequin was never a business, always a scam.
Worried investor – are you not going yo reply to my question?
You seem like an ignoranus – that’s not a typo before the spelling police turn up, it means your an idiot as well as an arsehole!
JB Pieceps…..your comments show that you are void of any intelleigence and can only resort to bad mouthing……no wonder HP failed with with low life like you supporting base life people like ames
It may take time, but be scared coz life alwyas has a way of balancing the books, although in your case it started at birth with brain damage, maybe your cousins inter bred like stupid Bob
Enjoy yur investment (dont gorget to save the profits coz you gonna have to geive em back)
Sordid misfits, deluded investors, foul mouthed supporters, scams, stolen money, no planning permission, fraud, lost pensions etc. Welcome to Harlequin.
@The worst of Britain. I will say to you what I said to API who felt had to come to the defence of Worriedinvestor. If investors has questioned some of the rhetoric given to them by HP and their financial advisors they might not be in the position they are in now. Do you not agree that DD should have been carried out. Now I am conversely asking Ralph/API/Worriedinvestor, who all hide behind aliases, to justify some of their claims. Is there a problem with that? Should we all just nod our heads and glibly agree with their protestations. You might, but I am sure as hell not going to. “SVG is a horrible crime ridden island” not as crime ridden as say Jamica which has a great tourist industry. Throwing out off the cuff statements can only be damaging to mine, and perhaps your, and the investments of others. I think that is the essence of a meaningful debate, don’t you?
@FDNRM No one should accept what a third party states with out some semblance of proof or reference point in which to back up the claims being made. But there is a huge amount of public information available on Harlequin.
FDNRM you yourself in fairness will have to accept that you too have and continue to make statements of fact with respect to individuals with out backing up your claims. You have stated on numerous occasions that Mr. Newman is behind many of the posts on this site yet none of us have proof of this.
I think we should all agree that the disgusting posts and associated expletives do nothing to further the debate on the issues pertaining to Harlequin.
thousands of investors are afraid of losing their life savings and all Bob writes about is me me me. selfish nasty lying lowlife
go on Bob save your own skin sod all the rest.
@The worst of Britain, Mr Newman has, and probably is, still on this site. I know for a fact he reads the comments on this site. for one, just after my name was published by Ralph why was he looking at my Linkedin site, Dont forget Mr Newman has previous with the Harlecon site. He is no innocent bystander. His actions along with the Irish Builder were referred to as fraud by the judge in the case.
I would agree with you regarding the disgusting posts, I have been on the receiving end of them in the past. Perhaps in the future you will defend me when they are leveled at me, the post above is a case in point?
let’s talk about me
Stench of hypocrisy when the HP apologists criticize other investors for lack of DD and gullibility. Meanwhile ‘Teflon’ Phil Spencer being puffed in the Torygraph as one of the leading movers and shakers in property, perhaps he and other celebrity endorsers should be accountable for the damage they have caused?
Caribbean nationals are often conservative and rather old fashioned in their manners, so I can imagine how offended many will be by the vile comments posted here. The ignorant remarks about SVG and other nations by investors of every stripe do a disservice to the entire region – should SVG be considering rescinding Ames citizenship for disrespect?
At a time when reparations for past crimes are being discussed is it not appropriate to hold to account those who by their greed and selfishness bring further hardship to the region?
FDNRM Dear Sir, no where in the Irish Judgement does it state that Mr. Newman had anything to do with Fraud. It is wrong to state that.
You also are making statements that may or may not be true about visitors to the site. But you state this as fact yet how can you prove that Mr. Newman is a contributor on this forum or indeed a visitor to the site. He may well be but how can you state this with certainty?
When you state that Mr. Newman is no innocent bystander are you suggesting he has done something wrong or is he to be applauded for exposing the massive issues pertaining to Harlequin.?
Could it be that Mr. Newman discovered something inherently wrong about Harlequin and given the apparent slow pace of the authorities decided it was time to “stop the con” for better use of words.
The defamation case should be very revealing on the issue given that Mr. Newman’s defence against the defamation claim is not denial but that the defamation was justified given the way Harlequin managed their business.
I for one would be nervous of an educated whistle blower and what he might reveal.
I do not subscribe to the notion that Mr. Newman conjured all this up to protect the Irish builder.
@The worst of Britain, a very lengthy defense of Mr Newman, one has to wonder why.
@BBaywatch, you really are a numpty. Your comment relating the anti SVG comment ” SVG is a crime ridden horrible little corrupt island. When you drive to Buccament Bay you are glad you are not on foot – feels unsafe and dirty. Once on the resort you don’t want to leave” was posted by an ANTI HP POSTER. Why should this comment influence any decision regarding rescinding .DA citizenship for disrespect?
Forum is circular. The crime has already been committed, the money has already been defrauded and dished out to those behind the fraud. People are not going to get money back, nor anything more built. This really is a matter for the authorities and investors should be putting pressure in that direction.
I don’t understand the anti-Harlecon comments. Pretty much everything they said on there has turned out to be correct. If more people had taken notice of their warnings, there would be a few more people around who would have kept their savings intact.
Am not aware of any of Harlecon’s content being disproved. I would have thought more people would be suing the Ames and directors.
I have just had a read on the RL site, and have to comment here in defence of BFP. People seem to confuse the posters on BFP with the actual site and hosts.
If it wasn’t for BFP and their impressive stance taken with regards to resistance to Harlequin and Carter Ruck bullying (one of the very few truly public sites to do this – remember BFP isn’t JUST about Harlequin), then Ames would have managed to silence the criticism from just about every corner in order to make it easier for him to continue getting away with what he is doing (pissing all over his investors, in short).
One of the reasons I believe BFP have managed to pull off the seemingly impossible task of resisting closure at threat of libel (or silence on anything to do with the Harlequin scam) is because they take an almost complete hands-off approach in terms of moderation. Therefore, all the illiterate, revolting, crass, pathetic defenders of Harlequin are as free to post as those criticising the ponzi-like scam.
There seem to be some new-comers to the game (a game in which I for one have been actively playing since 2006 in the Singing Pig days) who ridicule and besmirch BFP. Well more fool you guys. BFP have been the most active and prolific media portal for those trying to keep the public aware of the lies, deceit and fraudulent activities of Ames to use.
Good luck to all the late comers. But please show a little more respect to BFP and the enormous pair of iron balls it has been showing off for years and years.
Unless you call somone a fag or acuse them of rimming someone
but anyting a bout a woman that’s okay 🙂
Yes, respect is definitely due to BFP. Who knows how many more poor fools would have been fleeced if BFP had not provided a forum whereby Ames and his bunch of crooks could be held to account without fear of persecution or prosecution. Whilst greed and self interest seem to account for much of the hot air and rhetoric surrounding Harlequin (even where the anti-HP brigade is concerned) it is heartening to know that there are still a few people around with principles and purpose. Well done BFP.
I have just caught up:
summary
1.Money has gone all of it
2 No interest payments will start / or building
3.Cash investors are history will get pennies
4. SVG is a horrible little island full of criminals
5. Ames is an idiot if he turns up / does not turn up
6. He will have nothing constructive or new to say
7. Broughton should not attend with he thug husband
8. Newman I would trust over Ames,
9. FDNRM is insane
10. Paddy the builder is Ralph / AIP and wants it to go bust
11. There is no finance
12. The rescue plan is??? Who knows?
13. It’s the end of Harlequin.
You did miss something!!
There is a group of people who do not want What the fuss to attend why would anyone want to be anywhere near a creep who see women as he does?
BBFP did out him as being the disgusting cretin that he is maybe a few of us ought to teach him a few lessons……… disgusting vile excuse for a man
@anon 6.29 does it not occure to you that some quite nasty people will impersonate a poster to stir it up. And you have taken the baite. Previous posters have praised BPF for their work on this, but they do very little about impersonating posters. Are you suggesting some sort of violence at the meetings? I hope not.
fdnrm….you would need to be pretty low to impersonate you bob, you are no better than a judas….but lefe will get ya back coz it always does, so keeping looking back for life to spring up and bite ya
its gonna be so poetic lol
@FDNRM. Don’t worry, you’ll be ok. I don’t think anyone will assault an OAP even if you are a complete tube.
Please help the non-British…what is an OAP?
Not me that’s for sure.
Old Aged Pensioner.
THANKS…
Anonymous – firstly I do not care what you want and I will be at the meeting. You clearly don’t know me as if you did you would know I have the upmost respect for women.I haven’t posted here in weeks and weeks so I’m not sure why I am getting criticised.
You must be pretty arrogant to think you can dictate where I can and can’t attend and as an investor I have every right to be there.
What’s the lesson your teaching that you need the help of others. I’m happy to meet you prior to the meeting just give me a time and a place.
Either name yourself or keep quiet, your all talk.
@ what tha prick
you have kno respeckt if you did yo wold not say the thingds you did here mounths ago and come backi waniny trouble the othet day.yoo ames scrum evyone hate yoo yoo fink yoo hard yoo not met hardd
I have been caught out impersonating other posters
i wasnt clever enough to remeber to change my name back duh!
@Anonymous
October 6, 2013 at 6:29 pm
Who is whats the fuss? If you are condoning violence, you seen to be of the same mold as Mr Broughton. Some of us want a meeting without violence.
Isabelo – I do not agree with violence but I do not like to be intimidated into not attending a meeting.
Anonymous does not have to threaten he is watching – I will meet him, that’s all I’m saying.
The illiterate moron that posted above is accusing me of posting insults – what I’m saying is that people impersonate me and post in my name.
Will full Masonic regalia be required for the meetings? What degree will the meetings be opening in?
Thank you WTF,
It would be wrong and embarrassing for all concerned if Mr Broughton had to be retained again.
It would no doubt give Mr Ames great pleasure if he felt threatened and involved the police.
I find this whole thing despicable.
What’s the fuss, if you have been impersonated on here don’t you think people are doing the same to Erica? To cause an argument?
Isabelo, I know who you are don’t you think someone in your profession should know how to behave themselves?
So, Ames is to attend the Investors meetings?
Is he bringing his heavies with him for protection, or can he not afford them now?
Be interesting to hear what the little b#llshitter has to say this time round?
Im new to this site and only found out its all gone wrong – i will visit the meeting where is it?
@Conned, dammed if he does, dammed if he doesnt. At least he has the balls to stand in front of people at investors meetings. For someone who only has a watching brief for your clients, I guess you will not be there then?
Conned – Why would Ames need security at the meeting? The security came about because of the Irish Builder Case not investor threats!
It can not be a pleasant prospect for him to stand in front of angry disillusioned investors, but he must do it.
Let’s see if he does, he has never been one for keeping his promises in the past – he may not even bother.
As for someone knowing who I am, that’s too weird to comprehend.
WTF… He doesn’t go anywhere without security and you know that!
Bob… Balls??? My clients??? As usual you couldn’t be further from the truth. And yes I will be there, wouldn’t miss it for the world.
I will no doubt recognise you Bob by your brown nose…!
If that dangerous woman and her hen pecked husband come along, winding the other morons up into a frenzy – the first meeting may well be the last.
There is only a certain amount of verbal abuse even Dave Ames is prepared to take.
You may be mindful of the alternatives.
@Conned, these meetings are for investors only. You said previously you were not an investor. Have you been telling porkies? Resorted to the silly insults again have we. How tedious.
Will you be attending any meetings Bob?
I dont have to attend any meetings as this does not affect me. i payed for my cabana and dave took care of me.
Bob will be sat with Erica and Knuckles
Cannot believe anyone is interested in what ames has to say. It is a certainty he will lie again, he only lies. What a waste of everyone’s time. Investors are almost as much of a laughing stock as Ames with their ongoing delusion.
Anonymous – Who says we are interested in what Ames has to say? Most people want to listen to RL!
Why don’t you just fuck off and stop trying to stir shit?
@ John Broughtons pieceps bit pot at kettle that isn’t it? Your a massive fan of shit stirring why don’t you take your own advice?
Fake FDNRM why don’t you go and wipe your mother in laws arse and your mothers too come to that.
Wiping arses is about your level.
Why have you moved these 2 old bags in with you? You after their pension books and inheritance now your investment is on its arse?
Hows the rental money flowing?
Hows the police investigation into the blocked number to 07825740778
@Conned, blocked tel no was to my home number. Idiot. The rest of your fowl rant above is complete and utter rubbish. Pathetic.
@Conned.
You are obviously poorly schooled just like your mother; that dangerous woman.
I really hope you attend the meetings with ‘knuckles’, we will have him arrested – I know you won’t be able to control the Neanderthal Northerner 😉
Maybe, we will have a restraining order taken out against you all, I assume you know what they are?
I want to see what Ames has to say about Brazil.
He had the money, never owned the land, and said he would give it back – where has the money gone? Dubai? Thailand?
TS – you make me laff! You think a restraining order will stop John getting at Dave Ames or Richard Ingham aka WhatstheFuss! They will both be hospitalised! Why don’t you TS join them, you will all get in one ambulance!
My my Conned, what a big person you are, naming names, making threats, posting inaccurate telephone numbers. All from behind the safety of a key board. What a big person you think you are. Like to identify yourself? No guesses to what that answer will be.
The RL site is API free now that hiding bravely behind a keyboard has been banned.
Actual investors discussing issues. Whatever next ?
@Grumblweed. You will now get a volley of abuse from the Anons now, aka the API/Ralph mob
@ TS – AKA Katharine Manderfield I guess motherhood isn’t keeping you busy. My mother is dead you sick fuck so how can she be dangerous?
Who is We? Are you admitting there is more than one of you? Is that because you are easily two people 😉 Not long now until you’re in the clink with Dave it will be like old times for the two of you 😉
@conned, and you call TS a “sick f**k? Do you read some of the garbage you write. You set the standard now you reap the rewards.
@Grumbleweed, you spoke too soon. Looks likeRL have gone soft on them. Usual garbage “we have lots of information” etc etc.
Bob just read API’s post and it does ask some very interesting questions. Have not seen any rubbish from them. What have you brought to the RL site? Or this one?
Bob I apologise API are anti Harlequin. Shame on them, RL ban them, sue them. Please maintain the status quo, lets treat all investors like mushrooms.
@the names etc etc, yes you are right API are ANTI HP. They have an agenda. And the word is THEY. RL said they would have to have one spokesperson, they have not done that, they use statements with a scattergun approach, and do not supply the facts to back up the statements.
If you cannot see that then that’s your call.
You will be heading the same way as your mother if you start something you can’t finish at the meeting with your aggressive threats.
Did your mother die of shame after having you as a sibling?
You and Worried investor think your John Wayne!
Ridiculous. What facts are required? How about some facts from Harlequin? Where is the money? Where are the resorts? Where are the planning permissions? Business plans? Guarantees? Loan interest payments? Accounts for BB? Blu? How about some proof that this is not a scam, when all facts show that it is? You act as if proof needs to come from those who have a problem with their contracts being breached or being ripped off, as if they should prove the contracts are breached or that their holiday units don’t exist. Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds? The facts are clearly weighing against Ames and Harlequin. How about some proof he has not systematically stolen and ripped off thousands of people? The facts are that there are no resorts, there are no planning permissions, there is no money, there are no accounts, the guarantees will not get paid, loan payments cannot get paid, agents IFA’s and the Ames took most of the money, Blu and BB lose money, properties were sold on land that was not owned by them. You will say yawn, boring, heard it all before. But those are the only facts and they are irrefutable (other than you saying prove BB loses money etc, but even if you don’t believe that, the facts say enough) I am not Ralph or whoever else. The above clearly shows this is a scam. Prove otherwise.
interesting to see that many ex harlequin agents/advisers/fa’s are attending the RL meetings. perhaps RL could ask those attending whether as well as being investors WHO were also agents/advisers/sold this investment and ask some discerning questions regarding this.
Bob, you may need to high tail it over to the RL site real quick. API are going mad. Its time you got RL to shut API down otherwise the peasants just might revolt. All though Ames feels many are revolting anyway.
I can hear the oxen braying as they are hitched to the
tumbrels as I type.
(Confession — I have no idea what sort of sound an ox makes)
Touche’
People bang on about facts to prove that this is a scam…but HP and Ames dont come up with any proof to counter the scam claims.
If HP simply build the properties they took the money for all would be fine…but they cant and the Irish builder didnt steal enough money to stop the developement.
So a simple thing if HP is not a scam, provide info to prove it wasnt
Come on bob even you can understand this question…..
@RL can you be trusted? You said on your site that API or anyone would not be allowed anymore to post anonymously. API would have to post through a spokesperson. Is API someone’s name? You seem to have backed down from your stance. Why is this?
what the hell will ames say to the Brazil investors today? will he even turn up? this bunch could see him in jail – the contracts states he would give the money back not steal it.
A very simple answer, we will lie and blame everyone and anyone.
@The names etc etc, you were capable of multi tasking, which obviously you are not, you would have read the RL site and seen that I have brought this up with no answer. Muppet.
The investor meetings have all the ingredients for a riot.
Ames has squandered £400 million, many investors have only just been made aware there is a massive a problem (after being lied to by HP and IFA’s)
Throw into that mix certain investors having ‘tough guy syndrome’ behind the keyboards.
= A COMBINATION FOR A RIOT.
I can see the other meetings getting cancelled for safety reasons if it all turns nasty.
@The names etc etc. I wouldnt worry about me too much. I think you should worry about yourself if the above is anything to go by.
Is there anyone out there thinks that Harlequin or Dave Ames has a chance of succeeding, or only if Ames goes? I have only come across FDNRM that sicks up for him or HP?
@Heart of Gold – Nob of Butter, if the Broughton’s are investors then they are as entitled as anyone to be there and shouldn’t be kept away. If Anyone behaves badly at the meetings then that will have to be dealt with at the time and it really shouldn’t come as a huge shock to anyone that investors are so angered by the current situation that they may react physically – and I wouldn’t blame them. We are all different after all and react in different ways. The fact that there is so much to be angry about is undeniable and Ames does have his work cut out trying to appease investors at this time – but as they say…if you can’t take the heat.
@Heart of gold ect,
The truth about the Broughtons is they have not posted on here for months, as it has been said there are people who want to cause trouble and who post anonymously on here claiming to be them. As far as I am aware they feel badly let down by BFP and the way that they have handled certain postings and will not ever post on here again.
The Truth – Sounds like John Broughton is back peddling or lost his bottle! Leave it to the young bulls John your old and out of shape!
The broughtons do post on here, maybe not so often and they definitely read the posts!
@ HOG NOB – You are clearly a nob jockey you can’t even spell There or Their you fuck wit.
BFP tell us all when the Broughtons last posted on here?
@ HOG NOB What’s up jealous that I get to see more vagina than you old chum?
I was simply trying to help you stop making a total prick of yourself you fucking mong.
Go fuck yourself then!
Another impostor FDNRM may be some things but he is not so vulgar.
Any news on the Brazil investor meetings?
Does Ames still have his meat and two veg? 😉
Ohh I dunno Loony Tunes
FNDRM has called posters a c u n t, a pi llock, or a moron in the past.
I’d call that vulgar.
@Loony tunes, thank you for stating the obvious, well to some anyway.
@EL2, And you can tell when it is me or an impostor? You have fallen for it also, and I will call YOU a pillock.
Yes as I said FDNRM…
some of your posts have been vulgar, inept and crude.
@EL2, ah bless is Pillock a bit strong for you? You sensitive soul. Perhaps the rough and tumble of this site is a bit much for you. And what do you think of some of the comments made about my family? Now that comment will be interesting and revealing about your moral stand.
The super morbidly obese family should not be allowed to attend for several reasons, the main one is they simply take up too much space.
I really don’t want to get too close in case I catch ”Fat”
@ TS Why would you be at the Tailormade meeting when you are not an investor or a creditor you dumb fuck.
They should never been allowed to invest with their council house mentality.
I bet the big fat daft cow was bragging to all her Coronation St. type neighbours.
Until it went wrong – what a shame 😉
I won’t be attending fear not
Letter B4 action = why pay for that? £399 steep for 1 letter?
25% plus Vat
So £100k costs you £30k in fees???
the illiterate trolls are out early tonight
everyone can see through your stupid nasty comments about the broughtons
change the record pleeeze coz you are SO BORING!!!
@EL2 what do you think about conned comments. Is that classed as vulgar and crude? Any comment on that?
Nob,
Are you here just to shit stir?
I think YOU should stay away YOU are a trouble maker
TS is Katherine woller who should stay on the farm with the other ugly cows
how many units have you had free on commission Katherine?
how many units did FA get free for selling us suckers units?
Anonymous – I have never condoned violence like worriedinvestor/ conned/ Neanderthal Broughton – are you going to the meeting to give somebody a kick when they are on the floor
Think that going after IFA’s will solve your problems? – think again
http://www.ifaonline.co.uk/ifaonline/news/2299029/ifa-pushed-into-administration-over-gbp15m-arch-cru-liabilities
regd. the ifa article highlighted by bbaywatch.my understanding of the law was that you could not come back as a director in the circumstances as they appear to be in this instance. Just think about it take millions in deposit for a product .lnvest those funds in what you fancy,go pop and then start again buying back these assets for peanuts,nice work for the monkeys if you can get it
@TS You would know all about disabilities wouldn’t you 😉
I will make an offer to buy TM, to thwart a pre pack liquadation.
Then sell the database.
That rather camp Scottish chap won’t get a sniff at it.
You wouldn’t be able to talk about wiping ones bottom anyway with the shit that comes from your mouth! You need to start wiping it dear.
Have you got your kid selling carbon credits from the pram yet or are you still pedalling the old Harlequin train wreck??
Let’s talk about Harlequin the reason we are all here, What happened in the Brazil meeting today with Dave and Fatchett? Did he explain why he “forgot” to buy the land. Talking about the fat ones is very tedious now I seen a pigeon have a shit before that is how interesting it is reading the crap you put on about them.
@ PaulWalton,
is your screen thingy a pic you took at BB when you were on hols? and was you Grust grust.fatralph and harlequin investor on the old-new newsfeed ect or is you screen thing anyone can buy just wondered??
Or is every post on every thread with that logo down to you??
The Manderfield baby must be this karma thing that people rattle on about on here!
Erica Broughton is a sick woman but everybody ridicules her – age is the only difference between her and the baby!
All,
IFA / Agent Meeting
Harlequin are meeting agents / IFA’s on Thursday. We hope that Harlequin spell out the need for agents / IFAs to take responsibility for their actions.
It is inevitable that the “Rescue” element will be run alongside the “Redress” element. We cannot see any reason why an investor is not going to seek to obtain redress if it is available.
Agents / IFA’s were paid very high commissions to sell Harlequin. There were many alternatives they could have chosen for peoples money (Prudential / Standard Life etc). However, they chose Harlequin and they are now stuck with the responsibility of the advice.
Our message is that anyone who has advised properly (whether regulated or unregulated) has nothing to fear.
IFA / Agent who are investors
With an investor hat on, it makes sense to consider the Investor Trust / Restructure as an alternative to liquidation.
However, for any IFA / Agent, this process will kick off the parallel “Redress” projects. Therefore, it creates an obvious conflict of interests.
The other worrying issue is that some agents / IFA’s are still insisting on calling the current Harlequin position a “blip”. Many investors are being sheltered reality by agents / IFA’s who are either hiding the truth or living in cloud cuckoo land.
We are pressing Harlequin to ensure that all investors are invited to consider the Investor Trust proposals.
It would be an irony if the thing that defeated investors in liquidation was the very agents / IFA’s who sold it.
Meetings
Keep booking on. We are mindful that we may need bigger venues shortly. We will publish venues by the close of this week.
Conclusion
Having had the Brazil meeting today (although admittedly a smaller group) we feel that we have a pretty good handle of the issues which will be raised at the Investor Meetings. We are working hard on the issues we did not expect to include them in our presentations.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
So the IFA’s are being thrown to the dogs for the greater good, absolutely brilliant.
Told you all so.
Taylormade, HMSSE, Matt Ames, IFA’s, ……………. more to follow…..just take a little more time.
I know Erica is some things but even she isn’t that low.
Believe me she is, and her fat cow daughter is the same.
My my TS why so much hatred for them? What have they done to you?
Try the baby comment sick fucking freak
You had a go at them before that comment? Care to answer the question properly. What if it wasn’t Erica or her daughter?
I’d also like to point out that it seems obvious that FDNRM has an imposter. I don’t believe any of his recent comments have come from him, especially the comment to TS about her baby. It’s all very tasteless.
This all seems like a fairly transparent and cynical attempt to stymie, or jam, discussion or dissent on this board.– why that might be, one can only wonder.
What is very clear to me at least, is the abuse heaped upon any of those who have spoken up, and the manner in which it is issued, is a fairly stinging indictment of those involved with this company and its values.
To discuss this Broughton woman as “dangerous” is ridiculous and some of the strangely superior, and prejudicial comments about “northerners” are contemptible.
Onto more serious matters; I’m still confused how IFAs etc are now being chastised for doing the very thing that Harlequin relied on them to do in order to get them to this point (where would they be had those sales not been made?) The way that I understand it, the only reason that the advice is being alleged to be suspect is that the product is alleged to be suspect — if the claims that Harlequin have made had proved to be true, there would be no problems.
It matters not; the IFA’s will get sued – Investors just want their money back and don’t give a red cent how they get it. That’s life, the World we live in.
The poor devils that invested cash need HP to work, tough but true.
The reality is that going after the IFA’s is a genuine means of getting some investors their money back, whether the IFA is at fault or not. If this activity is successful it could take away a significant chunk of investors which could downsize the remaining number to a manageable size. And Ames will be all for it as he doesn’t have to do any of the work or foot the bill. It’s a win-win for him, though I’m sure he knows he’s solely responsible….deep down.
But that money doesn’t disappear — the creditor is just replaced.
Any insurers involved, will merely mercilessly pursue the debt themselves surely?
I’m sure there’s a way to restructure the business so that there is no redress for the insurers. I have confidence in Fatchett.
@Sid, well spotted. I have been out all day and just got back. No doubt some of my stalkers will know that. Your comment about the baby is absolutely spot on. How sick some people on this forum are.
By the time the insurance companies get moving, the redress claims will be paid out and the ‘assets’ of old HP moved to ‘a new co’. leaving the insurers suing a company with no value.
Such a course of action would be highly fraudulent, and if proved would be actionable — with potentially very serious consequences for those involved.
If proved.
Also, proving intent would be tricky.
And if, they chase it, if, if , if.!!!!!!!!!!!
There would be some legal way round it – do I give a toss if i get the money back, no i don’t.
Taking £400 million is highly fraudulent, Irish builders nicking money is fraudulent, peoples saving have been lost, peoples pensions totally gone, many are ill because of this and you go on about it like some moral person. people have been used and abused because of this man. i dont trust anyone anymore.allways after something
I think it’s very naive to think it will just disappear — Ames didn’t forget the Irish builder after all, and that was for a fraction of the potential sums being discussed here.
It’s not an issue of morality, it’s an issue of practicality.
Investors have been generally under resourced in their pursuit of this matter through legal channels, insurers will not be — it seems likely to me that with such resources the “ifs” that the Mole talks about would swiftly become “whens.”
The IFA’s / SIPP providers are going to be made the scapegoats.
Look at Fatchett’s track record in the past. He’s very very dangerous in these circumstances. He knows that the only way to lessen the burden on Harlequin overall is to get rid of investors. Hence the mass claims. He will line up a formidable array of legal firepower to do this.
Ames does not care. He is probably relieved that Fatchett has not purely focussed on taking Harlequin out.
The Irish One should have retained RL and told him to go get Harlequin. That would have done the trick.
Anon 4:14pm
You just don’t get it do you !
The plan has been designed by very senior masons.
The 3 degrees! Lol
RL have now bared all anonymous posters from their site. Well done RL. How long before Lostmyhome/Worriedinvestor/API/ Ralph reappear on here? I give 24 hrs.
Bobbie you should be rejoicing! I thought anonymous posters
were your BUGBEAR.
Boaz
Channel 5 now – recognise anyone ?
Shiboleth
Masonic corruption simple
Ames is a Freemason.
Fatchett is a Freemason.
Walton is a Freemason.
Terry is a Freemason.
Deal done to protect the brethren.
The Brits are so insular… Who cares about the Masons?
What has HD done to Barbados and SVG?
The last few blog posters are idiots. Four hundred millions pounds
sterling are missing ………..duh…..duh …… where is the money?
A Masonic trust would work
@The 3rd
That is what investors are going to be offered except they don’t know it yet.
So mote it be. W Bro Ames will be given a fresh start
Give all praise to the Worshipful Master, beloved by us all on the square ……
Who’s pulling who’s strings ?
Walton has said he is on the level nothing wrong with that, Ames too. Mason are generaly good folk
SMIB
ts got Masons involved its a done deal with the government, its already decided – whatever the outcome.
There has been some speculation on here that it is feasible to transfer all the worthwhile assets out of HP into a new entity leaving insurers to pursue a worthless company. It’s been noted that it would constitute a fraud and noted again that proving it would be something else. If such a transfer could be done – and it’s by no means certain it could – why hasn’t Mr A done that now, (or begun the process) leaving Investors to chase a shadow? Maybe he has?
@Anon, I think we all need to accept that there are things going on behind the scenes that we know nothing about. I for one though am beginning to feel more comfortable now that Fatchett is taking a grip on the operation.
Does anyone know if Richard Ingham aka WTF a mason too as he seems to be involved with the inner circle?
Does anyone else wonder what RL is in this for? It does seem very odd that they seem to be putting a lot of effort into this for what seems on the surface, to be little return.
If you believe in Santa Claus then maybe they are just your run of the mill super heroes who just want to see justice done but I’ve not yet met any solicitors who answer to that description.
A cynic might suggest that they are essentially a claims management company with a legal arm so it’s all about getting that all important list of SIPP investors from HP so that they can start cold calling for clients they can help sue their IFAs. They certainly have tried hard to get that list from DA in the past, ostensibly to contact them to get their views on the Trust. That failed; (presumably DA knows the value of the list and the leverage it gives him) so they then asked DA to contact them all with details of the meetings together with veiled threats that if he didn’t then they would take that as a sign that he didn’t want HP to be be saved.
They also don’t seem to be averse to having DA continue either running HP/BB or having serious influence in the running of it.
I do wonder what will happen to their interest in the Trust once they get their list.
No doubt I will be told by subsequent posters that RL are the next best thing to Santa Claus and that any criticism is just an attempt to liquidate HP but maybe others will post their ideas on what is in this for RL or maybe RL can post a response?.
RL want the redress claims and the glory of the rescue.
Win / Win for them and probably for many investors a win too.
Ames knows that he cannot do it without RL and the reverse applies.
Masons one and all.
RL are not a charity and I’m sure can see a number of ways to profit from HP. I don’t think they will be too concerned about glory or saving the day. I’m sure they’re in it for the money and good luck to them. For every £1 they make, some lucky investor will have probably seen a tenner….and what’s wrong with that?
In the US “trial lawyers” (a nice way to say ambulance chasers) generally
work for 40-50% with NO UP-FRONT FEES.
RL are going to bring hundreds and hundreds of claims. It’s what they do.
They have worked out that the numbers are massive and so are the rewards.
They only way to look at it is if RL win, we all win. I don’t have a problem with Fatchett getting fat off HP. I hope he fills his boots!
Sid,
Gareth Fatchett is one motivated and driven individual. He is at the top end of what he does. Never going to be well liked by everyone.
Having dealt with him before, I know that he wins 95% of cases his firm takes on. Millions in redress etc.
He is not here for the fun of it. Harlequin has tried everything to shake him off. Didn’t work. The same cannot be said for all the other lawyers before and since.
Legend has it RL told Carter Ruck to “bring it on”. They didn’t.
Ames is really lucky that RL are trying to help him. My view is that if RL win, then investors will also win. Easy to decide who’s side your on looking like that.
I am looking forward to the presentations next week. The Master and the Apprentice ?
Well put Richard. I do get a sense that the mood of investors is improving and confidence is on the up and I credit that to all the hard work Fatchett and his team have put in. You have to hand it to them, they have and continue to play a very good long-game.
I am not sure why the mood of investors should be improving.
Unless they can get money back from the IFA’s, all they have is the promise of a share in the common areas at Buccament Bay – split 5000 ways. Buccament Bay is, of course, only partially built, has almost no chance of being completed as funding will be impossible to obtain and is, from some accounts running at 20% occupancy, so cannot be making a profit.
Apart from Buccament Bay, there are various second-rate sites which appear to be owned by Harlequin companies which the investors have no relationship with or by Mr Ames himself.
I don’t think it time to be getting too excited yet…….. and in answer to the inevitable question about what I would advise then – liquidation!
If there are 9000 contracts, that surely means there was some monkey business in the sales, doesn’t it? There were never 9000 units planned were there?
As we are now well into October I presume that the resumed building at Buccament Bay is the cause for greater confidence – Mr Ames did assure investors that this was going to happen post the ‘Irish’ case, and of course he wouldn’t mislead them would he?
I suspect that the RL attempt to gain control over the access onto and around BB resort is in anticipation of liquidation and a way of getting some leverage when negotiating with any buyer. At the moment no external financial provider is going to consider putting money in if they have to deal with two entities pulling in different directions, so if HP (or whichever dependent company) is liquidated then RL, as a single party, would have to be negotiated with in any buyout deal. I very much doubt that they would be able to get investors money back, but they might well improve on the dividend offered in a straightforward liquidation.
I’m sure that the usual crew will turn up to post personal attacks following this, but then they do treat the whole affair like the finals of some wierd TV talent show, rather than cold commercial reality.
9000 units! That explains Ames continued resistance to provide the sales data. The fact that he is now handing Fatchett the information he needs shows that he is starting to play ball. So if we’re now up to 9000 investors, does that mean HP actually took £600m in deposits?
@BBaywatch, as the “Irish case” has gone to appeal then it would be prudent to wait till then dont you think?. Which talent show do you have in mind, the X Factor or Strictly?
Well done Fatchett at least he had a big enough pair to take on Carter Ruck ( who seem docile now) after not being paid by Ames.
Ames is so weakened now he would roll over and take one up the wrong un without any lube.
GF will have to make a massive donation to Masonic charities out his fees, that just the price you pay for having them onside.
Ames is certainly not a Mason; he would steal the lodge donations and forget his words.
Does anyone actually think the Masons are involved? Or do you think the power they allegedly have is bunkum?
BB@7.18 am
Personally I’m not so sure that RL having control of access and communal areas would lead to a significantly increased dividend for investors. It may simply be another reason (as if any more were needed) for the small list of potential purchasers to walk away. Factor in the costs associated with obtaining and maintaining control and the benefits seem marginal at best.
ATTN: Gareth Fatchett
Gareth
Could you please make contact with me at your earliest convenience. I respect we are not investors/ purchasers but am now informed we are HMSE’s largest creditors. I believe we can furnish you with a substantial amount of information you currently seek and aid your campaign considerably.
Regards
Andrew
A.Smith
CEO
Procure it Direct
http://www.procureitdirect.com
API, Ralph, now M White and that fat cow Erica and that Irish robbing builder bastard
You just keep lapping it up.
The CEO of Procure it Direct has to contact GF by a social media site and RL web site? Phones not working any more? Professional or what.
Don’t often agree with you FDNRM, but it really does seem very odd to make contact with a law firm via a blog. But then everything about this debacle is odd and murky. Obvious misleading and scamming has gone on for years, people fighting about assets that are worth very little and a business that most likely loses fortunes, a chairman who has unjustly enriched himself, changed plans, bought planes, been filmed telling lies, had a dodgy builder with no contract, etc etc
@Anon, and I thought for a minute we were having a love in and you spoil it. Mind you I have to be careful what I say on here, a post of mine has been lifted onto the RL site back from July. Some people need to get a life.
have to agree with Fafchett dnrm some people on here are obsessive and need to get a life other, than posting on here,maybe they could be employed in the construction of overseas developments ,i understand positions maybe vacant
clod – Robert is the classic case of ….”do what I say, not what I do”.
The Irish robbing builder bastard has a fetish for fat; hence him teaming up with that dangerous woman and Newman.
They all want to move to America and feed each other junk food and plan Harlequins downfall.
Wow TS – you are one sick, hateful individual. You need help.
Andrew Smith turns up – another gentleman with sticky fingers!
TS – you will have to be careful John “Knuckles” Broughton will line you up for a good beating too! He’s already threatened Ames and teach Richard Ingham a lesson!
Investor meetings will be abandoned after Wednesday – exactly what Broughton are aiming for maybe?
If Andrew Smith is advertising on social media for GF telephone number then I’m not surprised his company are a creditor. What a way to run a company.
@Anon,11.53, if all you have to worry about is a grammatical error then you need to get your head out of the sand. It’s a good job you can spell Anonymous because thinking of an actual ID would obviously tax your one brain cell.
@Anon 12.02 Yawn zzzzzz
The thing you forget Paddy, is hand writing experts can detect certain styles and patterns. Hence why we know, Ralph, API, Malcom White, is that Irish builder.
The very one who stolen investors cash.
The very one who is trying to force liquidation.
9000 contracts – 120 built.
Jail waits.
Erica Broughton’s presence will spoil the meetings for all investors….It better she keeps away – she has proved she can’t control herself the last time.
This is not about her, it’s the 6000 investors.
This is a one off event I certainly don’t want her spoiling it before I get chance to attend the meeting in London.
@Anon, 3.37, hello Paddy, firstly calling someone “love” and “sweetheart” shows a lack of class and is very sexist. Em perhaps there is nothing you can do about that. And picking someone up on grammar is also pathetic. And no one is suggesting that any problem with HP is to do with .34%, that was the amount of damages awarded, not the amount misappropriated. More and more damaging information released on RL? Unsubstantiated rhetoric by a consortium that only want liquidation. Well will tell you where the money is soon. Yeh right, sometime in the future. Just like the Redbook and the discredited excell spread sheet. Boring.
Are former vendors allowed on the RL web-site and if so how does
one do it?
@FDNRM (LITTLE DOT and ipad abuser):
The point about calling someone sweetheart – banal to say the least. However the rest of the sentence obviously struck a nerve:
“physcology experts tell “us” that they can detect patterns of fear and anger from the rhetoric. Akin to the results of a lie detector test”.
Take it easy Bobby boy the straight jacket beckons. LOL,Ha, Ha, Ha, etc. etc.
As soon as I saw your ID pop up I could have written your post. Soooo boring.
@FDNRM: and your response sooooooooooooo predictable. Nite Nite LITTLE DOT. LOL, Ha,Ha, Ha, etc etc
My interest is piqued. What is the reference to LITTLE DOT?
So gullible are posters on here. You actually believe what Malcolm the Irish builder says. So sad
@the last two morons who posted above, and I do not have such a grasp of the English language as you two.
I think Bob knew he was shafted when his rent that was due first week in July and it never came – I think it’s a bit sad however peoples only comfort is Bob Storeys misery! Hope it continues to comfort you in old age when your pensions are being enjoyed by the Ames family! Justice at last – have you stopped your childish chuckling? Was your lost investment worth your 2 min laugh at Bob?
Thank F#ck that Bob le Nob has finally been silenced on RL. Twat!
Could someone explain what’s happened for those not on RL?
Qu 1.
What anger level (1-10) with 1 being laid back do you think Ames will have to deal with at the meetings ?
I am going for a 5/6 in most places, but 8/9’s in the late Warrington and Basildon meetings.
Qu 2.
Best presenter – Ames – the experienced old hand. Always manages to persuade people and has a £400m track record or Fatchett – younger and more likely cleverer, but does not have the Ames touch ?
@FDNRM: My childish chuckling chops are sore. Imagine being rubber dicked by your pal, (how could that possibly happen?). Never mind Bobby Boy – you’ve had your minute of infamy as the Nuneaton Goebbels. LOL,Ha,Ha,Ha etc etc
Childish? Just about sums you up.the spelling of your ID just about sums you up. Childish.
I am still confused why ‘investors’ would side with the Irish builder who stolen their cash it’s a little like some bizarre Stockholm syndrome.
Imagine if you were a TM agent a year ago earning the big dosh 😉 and now you have no job, and face ruin when action will be taken against you personally – It’s called irony.
Where you aware that the Irish builder made death threats? These were taken very seriously by the Ames family.
About a million spent on security.
You think he want’s to help investors – get real.
He want’s HP down the pan so his court case is dropped.
The man is a thief plain and simple.
I hope the TM agents come to the meetings!
A thief like Ames Mr 9000 contracts………….. they were in it together something went wrong and they fell out.
I see the complaint into the Hillsborough disaster has been instructed that no Freemasons can be involved, as they have allegedly been covering up for fellow brothers…
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/hillsborough-freemason-cops-banned-working-2366200
If ames does not go to jail for his fraud, will send terrible message as to state of justice system in the uk. Stanford and madoff got hundreds of years, the uk needs to follow suit. He is a criminal.
if he does the first round is on me! The little runt.
I once fell foul of a Mason and his contacts, in the end I gave them what they wanted, there was no aspect of my life they could not get involved with.
I don’t care who or what happens I want my money back – I would even join Bob’s sect if it worked! Or the irish builders movement
All,
September 2013 – Survey
Just under 300 verified investors took part in the survey making it statistically accurate to +/- 3%.
Over 95% thought it a good idea that investors received security over land. Over 90% wanted the security extended to all Harlequin property holdings.
The question of the role of David Ames was surprising. Bear in mind this survey was taken before Mr Ames has had to present his position and explain his vision for Harlequin going forward. Just over a quarter of people wanted Mr Ames to stay on with Harlequin Mk2 to assist any new shareholder. 7% of people thought that Mr Ames only was the right person to solely lead Harlequin forward. These figures, do provide a majority against. However, like a Prime Minister mid term, these figures do show a stronger base of support than many predicted.
The thorny issue over funding a restructure led to a near 50/50 split in people willing to pay for such a security. This figure is encouraging as most people clearly though they could be asked to pay many £1,000’s more. The estimate cost of investors being part of an investor trust is going to me nominal, which means we expect the financial side of the opt in to be significantly higher.
We will send a further survey after the meetings to get the immediate views of investors.
Remember, ceteris parabus, the proposal will be with you in the last week of October 2013. At that point, matters are going to become real as decisions will need to be made.
Final Meeting Bookings
Keep them coming. We do not want to have 300 people turning up for a venue which we only had 150 confirmed bookings. It would in those circumstances become difficult to manage a meeting.
Conclusion
Thank you for your patience and we look forward to welcoming you to Warrington on Tuesday.
The agents will come. They want a soft ride from RL and will try to be disruptive.
Imagine the mess as they cut off their noses to spite their faces !
Ceteris Parabus – wow, RL are going to baffle everyone.
I do wonder why anybody in their right mind could ever imagine that external finance would ever be available for BB – trust or no trust. It was never available when HP needed it and owned ALL the land (not still owned by the original owner) Now it appears that the prospect of owning a few paths and other common areas is going to convince someone with $100m+ to spare to sink it into this venture – why? Would you?
No, the reality is that the further money for building out BB must come from the same people as before – investors; and they are also going to have to pay for any ongoing operating losses.
I have real concerns over the proposed trust and I won’t be subscribing or giving up my contractual rights unless they are purchased from me. I don’t care whether that is HP or the Trust. The contract is the only leverage I have and I’m not giving it away for free just because the “practically nothing” that is being offered is better than the absolute nothing I’m told I have now.
Lots of posts on here dwell on the question of who is worse (or better) DA & HP or API and its constituents. More importantly who is more believable?
It is clear they both have their own agendas and are clearly putting their own interests first.
API have published a lot of material and made numerous assertions that put DA and HP in a very bad light and is, to say the least, potentially very damaging; but how much of it is true? Presumably, if not true, HP could release the accurate information that counters these assertion, to date they have not done that, in fact the reason that API’s assertions may have gained traction is the total absence of ANY verifiable information from HP. RL themselves have had enormous difficulty getting verifiable data from HP. Just recently a casual remark from them implied that there were 9000 contracts and not the 6000 that had previously been stated and assumed to be accurate.
Frankly given HP’s and DA’s track record they would do well to actually BE transparent rather than just promise it at some indefinite point in the future.
Until such verifiable transparency has occurred I’m willing to believe the worst and to do otherwise would be an extension of the gullibility I’m ashamed to have displayed in the past.
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Well put, API obvious what the game is, DA, well enough said he is a total idiot.
Will any plan work with him involved – NO
In some perverse sort of way you have to give Ames some credit for turning up to a bunch of investors when he, and only he, has lost £400 million.
No chance I would do that; but then I am not deluded.
Will you be attending any meetings?
Ames is fighting for his life and his liberty. He will turn up and assume the role of the well meaning visionary, entirely honourable in intention but the victim of external forces and outrageous fortune. He is playing to the galleries where the SFO sit, their Opera glasses clenched firmly to their eyes.
yes
I beg to differ; he will play himself. The bumbling old fool. How many times will he mention the Irish builder, WK and those out to harm Harlequin?
If investors still cannot see that Ames see this up as a scam from the outset, there really is no hope for them ever in business. Hard to swallow perhaps but the evidence is staring you in the face. Not sure what you all expect from him at the meetings. The one thing he has been is consistent with the lying, lack of information and accounts, and over promising/passing blame. Listening to him is a waste of your time, as it has been for years, as well of course as a waste of money.
It’s all coming to a head, the game is over, the money gone, some stashed, I just hope the SFO grow a pair and do something.
Bored with the whole thing now.
if the meetings don’t turn out to be like an old wild west bar fight I will be amazed.
This would allow Ames to play the victim.
Those that can’t behave would be better to stay away. London and Basildon will be crazy for sure.
The whole thing is to crazy to comprehend – he will stand there and say what? Ooops sorry I blew all your money…. but the Irish builder and WK are to blame.
Note to Dave: We don’t care about that, don’t say it! 😉
@FDNRM: Don’t go Bobby Boy – you’ll stand out like a sore thumb. It’ll be the permanent toilet seat imprint on your behind that’ll give you away. LOL, Ha,Ha, Ha etc etc
The SFO will pounce on Ames the moment he loses control of the project and he knows it.
It is my opinion that Ames wants to be seen publicly to be trying to turn things around to appease the SFO whether he believes he can succeed or not. He’s going to have to work pretty hard if he wants to avoid prosecution.
If anyone gets a chance at the meeting, could they ask Ames how the delivery of titles to BB property is coming along? A year ago he stated in a newsletter that he was then delivering them.(Quote below is from Harlequin Newsletter, September2012.)
“In the early days of selling property in the Caribbean, some people said that this
was all too good to be true and that it wouldn’t happen. I feel that we have proved
them wrong as we are now in the process of handing over legal title to the
properties at Buccament Bay Resort, which is a significant step and completes the
cycle that we promised all those years ago.
We look forward to a great future for all our investors and I thank you for your
continued support.
Kind regards
Dave Ames
CHAIRMAN, HARLEQUIN HOTELS & RESORTS”
Then ask him if what he said was true.
Ask about the “Guaranteed Mortgages”
Now, now, yatiniteasy, you know Mr Ames is well know for saying SVG is a third world country with no computers – so maybe that’s why its taking soooooo long 😉
Bob, whats up your Ipad ran out of charge or its fell down the loo?
Given that according to Ames himself, the marina at BB was almost finished almost 4 years ago, and was going to be one of the best marinas in the world, not just the Caribbean, would be interesting to know why he said that given that it still has not started. Also, even if he did hand over title a year ago as promised, 120 or so titles is not a lot to show for 7 years and 400m (which of course he failed to do anyway as he is a conman) If he thinks that is some great achievement and a fulfillment of promises, I wonder what he would have to say to those at Merricks, or Marquis? What has been achieved for them? Would he care to answer why he was selling without planning permission and co-mingling funds when investors were told they were not co-mingled? etc etc.
talking of failed marina projects – here is a timely reminder of the far reaching and widespread damage that an ill conceived and badly managed and executed ‘development’ can have on the environment and locale –
investors – NB – 20 years on and this is still the subject of ongoing litigation!
Imagine today in Warrington,……
If Erica sits between Bob Storey and Richard Inghams, John Broughton sits next to Dave Ames who is sat next to Nikki Crozier, who is sat next to Paul Walton, who sits next to the Irish builder I could go on….. 😉
The Traitor made, bunch sit next to Reg Legal, who sit next to the PHIG.
Just one big happy family what could possibly go wrong!!!
Why on earth would I want to go to Warrington?
To enchant your claque….
I today seen the Brotherhood in action with my own eyes.
So what happened yesterday? Can anyone comment?
Hi Sid,
Overall it went very well. A couple of people understandably very irritated and upset.
Gareth Fatchett very clearly stated without investors agreeing to the trust there would be no finance and Harlequin would go bust.
Investors would be given information in order to make an informed choice.
They would sign a waiver for some of their rights in the existing contract, for example taking legal action for a few years to let HP stabalise.
However, there would be several clauses in the waiver, subject to there being finance by ‘such a date’, a build plan, and so on. If these were not complied with the waiver would be terminated
If investors agree, Mr Ames said the money if there to build all the resorts and they would honor the 10% returns and 50% room share rate.
It seems like the only viable choice. If investors get redress say by a SIPP claim they simply drop out of the trust.
Sorry to Part – who was the members of the brotherhood that you saw?
Some big guy, Paul Walton…. not sure about GF but I think so – they usually are….. like the Police
Sorry to Part – so how do you know they were the brotherhood an when you say you saw it in action, what did you see?
Thanks Paul. Was there any mention of investors having to invest any more money or will it all come from outside financiers?
To do all the legal stuff with the trust it will be about £200 per contract,and about £50 per year to run the trust. There will be 5 Trustees all investors.
That seems a fair price to me?
Paul, in essence this all seems very positive: The one thing that I’m unclear about is the statement that the money is there to build out what has been planned. Was this substantiated at all? Where is this money coming from?
That very question was asked; DA said he can’t say yet who it is yet ( I assume on request of the lenders) However GF stated it would form part of the information, because otherwise why would you sign!
He won’t allow the waiver to happen without full disclosure, that was my understanding of it. So, it seems like investors will start to know whats going on…….
@ Heart of Gold.
The funny handshakes and stuff with the why they stand
Thanks Paul. So people with multiple properties will have to pay £200 for each?
Good to see there was no disruption from Knuckles and the two fat, common, Northern ‘women’
Doubt they have ever been to London – so we should be safe.
I expect people were on their best behaviour out of respect for Fatchett.
It is fairly painful to see people who made a terrible mistake investing in Harlequin and Ames make more and more mistakes. Sometimes in life it is better to cut your losses and move on, accept an error has been made and get out, for the sake of saving time and peace of mind. The business model Ames concocted does not and cannot work. The resorts he has planned in the locations they are do not and cannot work. By continuing to keep this zombie of a business alive, you are deepening and widening the bottomless pit of wasted time and money you already have been wallowing in. Ames has taken your money and given it away to his family and agents and has fallen criminally short on his contractual obligations, and yet still you wish to deal with him. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Liquidation is touted as an agenda of those who wish to see HP fail – it already has failed, it never had a chance. Liquidation is a means of getting something out, whereas the alternative will see you get nothing out and take many years to realise that. If this advice as offered by many experienced business people is ignored, and a trust is set up with clear guidelines as to what will happen if certain targets are not met, then sincerely wish you all luck and in fairness can see why some investors would see this move as giving it one last try. A good business person can see when the game is up, a desperate one ends up losing more.
It strikes me that everything hinges on the issue of finance, and to be honest the “it’s all in hand, I just can’t give you any details or information yet” line is one that sounds very familiar. It’s good to see that this is something that is not lost on Paul and everyone else.
Let me guess, that’s a masonic phrase is it?
@Sid, that question was asked also.
To be fair to GF, I don’t think detail like that has been decided.Maybe a discount for multiple purchasers; but I honestly don’t know.
@Anon 1.35pm.
Yes, we have all been told finance is just round the corner many times before…… this time if it’s not it will be the end. Shipley’s can’t wait forever. It’s good that these details will be disclosed to investors – a first!
December seemed to be the maximum they will wait…..
@Sid, its a new one on me if it is 😉
@Anon 1.21 why are you pushing the liquidation line when you use the expression ” you” not “we” That would suggest you are a 3rd party not an investor. If that is the case then what is your interest?
Thanks for giving some straight answers to some straight questions Paul, it makes a pleasant change.
I continue to be very surprised that this story hasn’t received wider media attention.
@FDNRM.
What’s your views on the trust?
@CB If Buccament Bay is spun off as a separate, stand-alone
corporation with only the original investors it might work -HOWEVER
when it is proven that Barbados, St Lucia and Sto Domingo investors’
deposits have been used at BB it just won’t fly. Just too many
fingers dipping into a not so very “5-star” pot.
Ames will no doubt get kicked out soon, or go to jail that’s all this is about.
The SFO will nab him when this deal gets ‘sorted’.
Things are happening very few people are aware of. It’s always about the money and the people who run this country don’t want to be picking up a bill for bailing out Mr David Ames.
The deal is done, people just don’t know yet.
Was it clicky at the meeting? Did the Freemasons say anything in the meetings?
http://invisibler.com/lulzsec-and-hidemyass/
Heart of Gold.
Only to the ones who are well versed in Allegory.
“However, at this time I am
pleased to confirm that we have a Letter of Intent from one financial institution that
is offering to fund the cost of building a new hotel for Harlequin to operate, and
another lender that is on the verge of offering us finance to build in the Dominican
Republic. ”
Another lovely quote from Harlequin Newsletter Dated Sept 2012.This was from Mr Ames himself, not the Irish builder.
@Gareth Fatchett,
Your forum is as bad as here allowing racist remarks I do wonder what the employers of the posters would think about this
@Paddy O’Halloran and Erica.
You pair of hypocritical toss pots. You both have stooped to gutter level many times we all know that – you deserve each other.
A few Irish jokes………… poor little Paddy got upset diddums, did the obese one jump to your defense, just like FDNRM does for Dave?
The Trust seems to be upsetting you, what a shame 🙂
Anyway according to the Mail, today. on the front page we should be kind to fatties.
Mind you do you get the mail ‘Up North’ it’s the Sun you read, is it not?
Anyway got some cows to feed…..
Unfortunately RL have resorted to censorship in order to protect the Irish Builder. Despite the lies and bile by Ralph/API/Malcolm White, some anti Irish posts and the whole of the threads have been taken down. Which begs the question, what are RL afraid of with the Saintly Irish one?
Now remember Bob, no nasty comments about the Irish, you know it upsets a certain individual 😉
Seems like you can steal £16million, but not allowed to take the Mick?
I do remember the Irish builder / Ralph/ API/ Malcolm White/ Worried investor – being rather nasty to our Bob?
Even Malcolm White knew he was onto a loser last night. Who would complain about jokes about the Irish? Someone Irish maybe?
Bob et al, Bob at least the others remain anonymous. Why do you think RL removed the posts. Why do you think they told everyone they had to tread very carefully when it comes to Mr. O Halloran and Co. But I suppose anyone stupid enough to invest in Harlequin is stupid enough to believe Ames. And Bob you are one of the most stupid people I have ever come across.
Ameless said O Halloran was toast, so why was he on a business class flight to New York last week with some of his cronies.
Hello FDNRM, I have to say you are the most vile and disgusting man I have ever come across, my mother is 78 and invested some of her savings in Harlequin 5 years ago. To look after her grand kids.
We have seen the posts on Regulatiom Legal’s website and felt that Mr. Wites comments were fair and balanced..Your attacks on people you dont even know are ambarrasing. So from some one whos mum has lost everything. And I never use these words. Fuckoff You Arrogant little prick.
@Lost Investments, interesting, so you think that Mr Whites comments regarding MY investments were fair then? “And I never use these words. Fuckoff You Arrogant little prick” Very eloquently put. Mr White is a liar and I will show you next week if you can be bothered to read through your bile.
@Lets attack the Irish, No lets attack Irish builders who carry out fraud.”so why was he on a business class flight to New York last week with some of his cronies”. How the hell should I know, You are the know all, you tell us. .
@Lets attack the Irish
Let’s be very clear here. O Halloran is a thief and has had all his assets frozen, I fly first class – what’s the big deal Paddy?
@Lost Invesments
Blame the IFA because she was clearly conned, so sue them. Bob is in his own little way trying to protect his investment.
Being rude and nasty just gets you told off.
Mr White is the irish builder who nicked your mothers money, along with WK who were in on it too
@Lost Investments, by the way how ironic that you would defend the Irish builder who has been convicted and implicated of fraud.Whatever you may think DA has not been convicted of anything as yet.
Yes, but he has the fat one to defend him; sorry fat ones.
The Irish builder thief did not get much sympthy thats defo, he is just scum and a coward nicking from old people
painful for me to watch, feel ill – what a pair of Tw*ts
i understand building work was done without contract ,thats one thing,but can someone tell me how this irish chap actually got his hands on this money.did he raise invoices? was he just given it ,? can someone tell me? if poss without a large dose of obscene sledgehammer wit or inane sarcasm
He was given weekly draws without qualification….
(and these draws were astronomical and went un-challenged)
and without an invoice for part or payment on account or even pro forma i suppose
@Lying scum, I know how you feel. I love his opening statement “Dave says he’s going to build all these big huge resorts and you all say it’s not gonna happen”. Funny that!
The fat bald Irish builder bastard if he is only 40 in this recording no wonder he is so angry!!!
‘ We jurst in de area, we can tarmac ya pathh fur a ghood price, we can we can’
I understand who him and Ames were good mates now.
Would someone, anyone…….translate into understandable
English what Carrot top just wrote….
Yes indeed.
The Irish builder gentleman looks much older than his reported forty years of age. He also has a rather follicly challenged appearance he is a bit of a chubby chappy.
The stereotypical reference to an Irish ‘navvy’ who try’s to sell stolen tarmac whilst having ‘a job in the area’ was alas, common practice, by Irish workman.
The job was always cheap and nasty – a con job.
Overall the impression is he looks to be, a big fat Irish conman.
My God! – it’s like reading James Joyce…..thanks
While in the mode of reminding yourselves of fat lying conman, remember this one?
Sorry I can not watch him.
Rome is burning and investors are fiddling. Lol Cmon lets attack the Irish, whoaa cos the Irish Fat Bastard and his band of merry followers are about to assist in the derailing of the Fatshit rescue plan. Lol
Aww, Lol. What a sad pack of people the Harlequin investors really are. Oh yes Dave, two bags full Dave, we love you Dave.
Bring on the Injuns. They will save the day. Lol
Fat Ames and the Fat Irish man are as bad as each other.
But the both done well out of investors.
minus anonymous and multi idents equals a nice peaceful day
Can I come back on here they don’t like me on the Reg legal site? And I was only trying to derail any rescue plan they had.
As bad as Ames.
Over on the RL site investors are now saying they lied about their mortgage applications, sorry folks you committed fraud. Plain and simple.
As for the other idiots on here well Ames is making a bolt for the barn yard door.
And your nemisis with his compadres will take the stinking mess down.
I hope to help you all focus, make a date with yourself and then try and move on!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2466093/See-dawn-Stonehenge-Swing-trapeze-Snorkel-coral-reef-The-inspiring-story-dying-BBC-girl-s-vowed-wring-drop-joy-life.html
@Fraud.
It’s a fraud fest!!
Ames
IFA’s
Irish builder
dodgy court documents
Investors
Where will it end?
@Lets attack the Irish
Come on you must admit the fat Irish man come across as bad as Toxic Toad? But, Ames outwitted him.
Pretending to be all those other people was so transparent and pathetic.
Dave only ever try’s to be ‘Dave’ because being himself is difficult enough.
Both a pair of heartless conmen – simples
The meetings are really informative; an overwhelming majority want to join the trust. In reality they have little choice unless they are ill advised.
The trouble causing fractions in the most are staying away, Dave Ames is the best on his feet I have ever seen him.
This thing may very well work or……….. it’s the only choice.
I have not read one post on here or on the RL site from anyone
who claims to be an investor in H-Hotel, Barbados. If the property
is owned unencumbered by Harlequin (probably one of its SVG
entities) could it not be sold/mortgaged to raise instant cash to
pay for a sorely needed audited financial accounting of all
the HD properties? Should’nt this be done before DA absconds
with whatever it is worth?
The two Harlequin offices in Basildon in Essex no. 11 Honywood Business Park, the HMSSE offices and no. 9 Honywood business park the Harlequin Travel Offices are now being sold by Dedman Gray estate agents and can be seen on the Dedman Gray website.
7 Capital are looking to take over the management of Buccament Bay and are working with Regulat Legal Solicitors.
I don’t believe for one moment that will happen. Is this based on any fact or just some fairy tail?
@ Fraud.
That’s great news.
I hope the harlequin staff all get sacked and 7 Capital bring in there own.
Can you put the link on here?
Could be they are just trying to raise cash to keep afloat?
Don’t need a legal team. Don’t need salesmen. Don’t need the Stenning family.Don’t need Ames……
Told you all Karma……………….
We need investors working with investors to the same end.
The Irish builder and his cohorts is bad Karma an evil presence.
The chances of selling / mortgaging the H hotel to raise cash quickly are minimal. the place is a ruin. it will be years before it sells.
SGD – Deep down i guess I was asking where did the money
come from to purchase H-Hotel. If one bloody cent came from
Merricks deposits I think that that would constitute out and
out fraud.
Maybe your right, Nevertheless, all in due course if there have been fraud committed it will be dealt with at the correct juncture.
She must ave been a good sh*g
http://www.herald.ie/news/courts/builder-using-40m-fund-to-lavish-his-lover-27957342.html
How very odd indeed. RL state a few days ago that they need to tread carefully when it comes to the ICE group and co. And now we are getting a frenzy of pathetic activity not just on the RL site but here too. I wonder why?
It does appear that the ICE group have totally rattled Ames’s cage.
A man rips people off for 400 million and blames every one else.
ICE start talking on RL and Ames’s supporters go nuts lol.
How very very telling.
Ames is doing a deal with Newman and Wilkin Kennedy.
Ames is selling his UK offices.
7 Capital is the new company.
7 Capital is an RL client.
Many Mortgage Clients committed fraud.
@insider. “Ames is doing a deal with Newman and WK” and of course you know this? How? Proof?
@Insider, such an intelligent angle you bring to the debate. Using words of more than one syllable. Impressive. So you dont think that Malcolm White and the Irish builder are the same person? What DA said is that his lawers had been contacted by WK to arbitrate. No secrete there oh knowledgeable one. MW is a liar, I have proved it. You believe what spin they tell you. .
@Insider.
Really; is that the best you can do? Pretty lame.
As an outsider look in 😉
It appears to me, that it’s the Irish builder and WK that are worried. Who had his assets sold? Who is going to be ‘toast’
Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof Proof
@Insider….right from the get-go I have always thought suing
in SVG was the most logical approach for an investor.
Congratulations!! Seems to me that RL is nothing more than a
middleman syphoning off more cash making a complex situation
even more complex.
The Irishman
right from the get-go I have always thought suing
in SVG was the most logical approach for an investor. Simply because its a corrupt nasty little country where the PM is looking after Ames, not to mention costs.
Paddy is getting desperate. Must be low on tarmac.
Quite a number of investors have taken the St. Vincent route.
I was at the RL HP meeting the other day. I heard about the builders assets being sold, some were offered to us in St. Vincent months ago before the Irish case was even decided.
Our lawyer told us not to accept the kind offer from the Ames family given that the Ames family had no right to sell those assets.
Those assets were not even part of the Irish case, if I had agreed I would have ended up in possession of stolen property.
Its funny Ames rips us all off, then turns up at a meeting and everyone takes on board everything he says as gospel. Says it all really.
I am very surprised at the Stance RL are taking, they do need to be very careful or they too will end up on the wrong end of a class action.
But FDNRM et al apparently know better, I suppose that’s why they invested in the first place.
@Insider, only one builder has been implicated in a court for fraud. Only one accountant has been implicated in a court for fraud. Same goes for one accountancy firm. If you are an investor then the Irish builder ripped YOU off also. How do you feel about that?
What bothers me is that investors are being frightened into thinking their only option is the trust.
From what I can make out, all the trust is doing is costing investors more money, relinquishing them of the option of any action against Harlequin or Ames, getting Ames out of trouble for a while longer, and convincing 7 Capital they can pay Ames/Harlequin money and take over the resort without the threat of investors calling on their rights under their contracts with Harlequin.
In no way is the trust going to enable investors to get deposits back, get payments restarted on their loans or get 10% returns started on completed units.
What exactly IS the benefit for investors? Saving Harlequin from liquidation, and Ames from threat of legal action, whilst continuing to service loans taken out years ago and relinquishing any expectation of a return?
There is very very little, if any, advantage in the trust over liquidation. It is of huge and disproportionate advantage to Ames and Harlequin, and not investors.
Action in the Caribbean is the simplest way to get deposits returned for contract breech, and seemingly, the Harlequin Caribbean companies have assets to meet any judgements against them. But action in the Caribbean can take a couple of years, so unfortunately not an option for those who haven’t yet started that process.
@AnonRU, Action in the Caribbean is not an option for the 2000 ish investors not covered by SIPPS claims. Liquidation = nothing, Trust = something. And the trust does not relinquish the option of action against DA, Dont prejudge what will be in the proposal to investors.
“Action in the Caribbean is not an option for the 2000 ish investors not covered by SIPPS claims.”
That quote there, Bob, is a good demonstration of how, as usual, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
All contracts are with Caribbean companies. The vast majority of them are in breach. Therefore, investors can sue for breach under Caribbean jurisdiction.
Now piss off you ignorant prick.
@AnonRU, good sensible answer. If you had any grasp on reality then you would know that many investors are struggling to pay the £200 requested by RL for the trust. How do you propose they pay for and work with Lawyers 1000s of miles away. Swearing is a sign of lack of intellect and losing the argument, Thank you for proving me correct on that one.
This does sound rather familiar. let me think what this latest revelation would result it??????
Oh yes…..liquidation……..who would benefit?
Yes, correct the nasty irish man
He has lost……….his assets LOL
And only one group being investigated by the police and SFO that being Harlequin and Mr. Ames and his family. Funny how you seem to have forgotten that.
Irish case under appeal so lets wait shall we. Even you have said we need to wait previously. Now as previously stated fuck off.
@Insider DA Investigated? Correct. Charged? No. Found guilty? No. Irish builder? Well we all know his track record. Irish case is under appeal, correct. Unfortunately the Irish case will be under appeal for the award of damages, the facts cannot be disputed. He is implicated in fraud and nothing will ever change that. “Now as previously stated fuck off.” It will take someone better than you for that to happen Mick.
No, its not forgot you rude Irish ‘man’, but you just want liquadation. You pathetic nasty man.
You have been out witted by Ames, so its true what they say about the Irish being thick 😉
Ames stolen and sold your assets – classic love it 😉
Such Irony
Now, now don’t get in a paddy lol
The lack of reality grasping is a common thread here. You invested with a bankrupt conman, who then further showed that he was a conman via many lies told on camera and via actions taken by him (no escrow, paid himself first before planning permission let along building, taking on a dodgy builder with no contract and who knows what conversations must have taken place for that to have happened etc etc) He then finally opens a business that loses money hand over fist – who do you think was funding those losses? Overpays for a very poor little hotel in St Lucia, buys planes, other little hotels with your money etc etc. It should come as no surprise that you have all lost everything already. Liquidation may get you something back, stat demands and force liquidation and some monies will be raised by disposing of the assets. The trust delays the inevitable and probably shrinks the pot. The best hotelier in the world will struggle to make BB profitable, as with Blu. The worst hotelier in the world would not even bother building Marquis or Merricks or the ones in the DR as they make little sense as they are, in highly competitive markets. To then say liquidation=nothing, trust=something shows a lack of understanding of the fundamental business that people are “investing” in – it loses money and I suspect always will, and the businesses all have such massive liabilities they really must be liquidated. Previous operators of Blu always lost money, BB is just the wrong hotel in the wrong place. Liquidate, get something, and go after Ames – he is a director of these companies, go after him personally as there is ample proof of negligence and fraud.
Bog off Paddy. Liquidate Liquidate Liquidate. Same old. You are not an investor so you have just wasted your time writing the above. We can all see you for what you are. A fraud.
FDNRM, you are a million miles from a savvy business person since you invested in this sham. It makes you poor at spotting good and bad investments. The above post actually is accurate, whereas you have never posted anything of substance to explain how the business can work, where it went wrong and what can be done to actually make it work, namely produce profits that will find their way into investor pockets. People should heed good advice from smart people rather than burying their heads in the sand and hope that proven inexperienced poor decision makers will perform a miracle. Look where you are now after the decisions and in action taken to date….I am afraid you make yourself look like a fool each time you post, a man easy to get to part with money with nothing intelligent to say or add.
@Anon, “people should heed good advice from smart people” That would be you then Anonymous. You are that smart you cannot think up an original ID.You are that smart you engage in conversation with me who is according to you “looks like a fool” What does that make you then.
Congratulations Anon:1:31……….It has been half an hour and
the cocky Mr. Storey has not been able to come-back with one of
his less than specious dumb-ass retorts.
For anybody needing to know what an Irish Bhaji is – it’s the thick black, spicy, onion smelling Thora Hird that emerges from the back body the morning after one takes on board an excessive amount of stout!
Paddy your a clown!
We have an Anonymous congratulating an Anonymous. Or is Anonymous talking to himself?
More useless insubstantial retorts from FDNRM. It is clear why you are a terrible businessman. Everyone on here is anonymous, except you sadly (I don’t actually agree that people should get exposed if they wish to remain anonymous, so on that note your indignation was justified) so I am going to make myself anon12 for reference and I posted at12.19 and 1.31. If you were able to come up with posts of substance as to why Harlequin is a business that can work, then that would be more helpful than empty posts, I can see why it does not work and it has been pointed out many times. I am not engaging with you, I was actually just keen to point out to investors who wish to prolong the mess that currently exists that I see no benefit to doing so and cutting losses and getting out is the best option based on the evidence available as to the viability of the current businesses, as well as past experience of seeing these things play out. You decided to try to attack a post that had more substance than all yours put together. Anyway, I have said my piece, it’s up to investors what they do, but most people I know in the islands are sick to the back teeth of Harlequin and Ames and those associated, so would ideally like to see the whole thing wound up and everyone move on, and SVG try to make a go of Buccament Bay. Not going to repeat myself, good luck all.
It has been reported on the RL site that finance is contingent on
legal action being suspended. It has been reported on BFP today
that several investors have initiated legal redress in the islands.
Doesn’t that make any rescue plan/Trust an effort in futility?
To get through the SVG courts it will take years and have to get over about 6 hurdles then would a court close HP at the detriment of 6000 investors? Won’t happen plus Ames political allies slow it down further!
Good luck to them – you know anybody managed to sue anyone who has no cash? They need the trust to generate funds to settle their claims!!
Financial suicide they are committing!
No clean title can be issued as long as an on going law action
is in progress. Stop fooling yourself!
Anonymous
October 20, 2013 at 2:49 pm
No idea but Pannone, Reg Legal or Chambers No 5 will know 😉
@ Portly Paddy.
You must be going crazy Ames sells you assets and wins in court – no even the most loyal of your followers shun you.
First Irish Farmer: “My cow fell down a hole and I had to shoot it.” Second Irish Farmer: “Did you shoot it in the hole?”First Irish Farmer: ” No, in the head.”
Paddy & his wife are lying in bed & the neighbour’s dog is barking like mad in the garden. Paddy says ‘To hell with this!’ & storms off.
He comes back upstairs 5 mins later & his wife asks ‘What did you do?’
Paddy replies ‘I’ve put the dog in our garden, lets see how they like it!’
Anon,
Title is not being granted. A series of mortgages in favour of investors is being granted.
It is odd that people refer to cases and cannot even produce the case numbers.
The Irish Appeal winning is as likely as Ames winning £30m from WK.
I am surprised the Irish One engages so much. If he sat back HP will fall apart.
Investors who have invested £50,000.00 will quibble over £200. They are that short sighted and thick. Ames will get a high %, but it will not be enough.
If they can’t get £200, I just don’t believe it. What the F**K were they doing investing?
Looking at the other site
I see now that it is now all about half a dozen people posting up
We the investors are all we are now concerned about, forget locals in St Vincent, employees, former contractors and investors in other countries we are not interested in their point of view and if they are in debt or losing their homes also because of Harlequin not paying them tough.
I personally would like to know how many people are owed money by Harlequin?
How many companies have on going court cases against Harlequin?
Will this effect the trust?
Why would we not want all information and points of view?
How can we make a informed decision without this information?
Some people want to remain anonymous as they have NDAs from Harlequin days.
If only investors can post does that exclude Gareth and Tobias,
How can this fit in with openness and transparency? it does not does it.
The way some people attack others remind me of pigs at feeding time so really we are only allowed one point of view and that is Harlequins and the trust.
We will lose our home soon and will not be able to get credit for many years to come as our once perfect credit rating has been trashed.
What was once our dream has now become our worst nightmare we will not ever agree to a trust that any of the Ames family are allowed to be any part of and cannot believe anyone would.
I suppose that you don’t have to be an ignorant, greedy, exploitative, selfish neo-colonial racist to invest in Harlequin – but if you are then obviously you are not alone.
@ Anon 101 your post just about sums it up. ‘…forget locals in St Vincent, employees, former contractors and investors in other countries we are not interested in their point of view and if they are in debt or losing their homes also because of Harlequin not paying them tough.’
Think yourself lucky 101 because when you lose everything you have social security benefits to help you out (paid for by us UK taxpayers). It’s a great pity that the people of St Vincent and other nations, who have also been shafted in this fiasco, which incidentally you were party to, do not have anything to fall back on. Not that you’d care though. Serves you right! Your attitude stinks.
@EddieLizzard2
Don’t be taken in by the spiel it’s the Irish builder that’s posting and he is a nasty horrible excuse for a man.
I think you’ve all been taken in.
You are missing the point!
This is the attitude of the other forum and that is why we do not post up as soon as anyone posts up something that the forum do not stand for which is (All things Harlequin) you are attacked.
Now they are deciding it is only a forum for investors the forum is sticking up two fingers to everyone else connected to Harlequin and anyone else who has a problem it is tough and we are not the builder we are an investor who have had all we can take we went into this venture thinking we were helping locals as well as ourselves but now find this pack mentality something we want nothing to do with. We need a forum for everyone not just investors so Thankyou BBFP.
The other forum is now another forum basically run for and on behalf of Harlequin and Dave Ames
wrong! You, and other investors, went into this without doing any proper research or background investigation. If you had you would have realized that this was a proposition that could not be achieved. Of course you didn’t want to know of any reasons why it would have be wise not to invest, you just saw that big fat carrot dangled in front of you and the impossible returns forecast and just wanted to believe that it was all true.
I don’t for one moment believe anyone who says that their motivation was to help the locals, after all, now that you have gotten yourselves up to your necks in this mess you expect UK government bodies and the UK taxpayer to bail you out, you are only interested in helping yourselves.
There have been many blowing the whistle on this since 2005, there was plenty of information about the companies and people involved available, and anyone who was sincere in wanting a partnership investment with local nations would never have become involved.
You bet your shirt on the equivalent of winning a lottery jackpot and having failed you want your money back – tough – stupidity has consequences.
Dear Erica Steph & Paddy,
Why not set another website up, you can post all the stuff you ever wanted? Wow imagine all that power!
Only things that can never be validated of course, no mention of the Irish court case; only negative comments about HP and liquidation.
You all could have a combined massive fatty orgasm 😉
@BB
You are correct.
Most of the investors were driven by GREED and ”Keeping up with the Jones”.
Now, they want to be bailed out; moaning about the £200 fee charged by RL for the costs. Idiots.
Working class; uneducated scum.
BBaywatch……a little harsh perhaps. Let’s not forget the fawning
LOCAL politicos that allowed this to happen too. SVG does everything
but canonize Dave Ames.
@Anon 101. It was part of the judgement in the Irish court case that large sums of money was owed to suppliers and contractors by ICE, which is not HP.
Anyway I’m off for tonight to take my small wrinkly old dick and put it up my wife’s big fat fanny it’s like chucking a sausage up an alley way 😉 Nighty Nighty
Bob,
Have you changed your name to John Broughton?
@anon101
What a load of vomit inducing BS, you want to close BB and all the stall will end up jobless, take about the sympathy vote….. not worked lol
@slbs – Isn’t capitalism wonderful?
Ames sells offices….why?
Yes it is, but selling your offices…….
http://www.dedmangray.co.uk/commercial-property/?q=1&min=0&max=10000000&tenure=&type=offices&location=&page=2
I think no 10 is empty and the ground floor of no 11 is used for storing the display models. Downsizing to a smaller building would make sense.
if they belong to Harlequin it would……
Hat’s off to Bob, he shut up the fat Mick
Yes hats off to Bob. Btw its no. 11 and no. 9 that are for sale. H dont own no. 10.
Again hats off to Bob. The rescue will fail at the due diligence stage. Game Over.
Hats off to Bob for blinding investors.
RL hold rescue meetings and Ames leaves fliers on chairs offering holidays for £99 per night at Buccament Bay at the same meetings. Farce.
And Bob becomes a hero. Farce
And RL have a get out of jail free card, Due Diligence. Farce
Hats off to potato famine – upset potato Padraig
@Game over, Hello Mick, suggest you speak to the estate agents regarding the HP property. I’m sure they would appreciate your correction. There is only one farce around Paddy. Guess who that is.
the irish rover has lost his assets – sold by the diddy dave
the dwarf is selling his assets – protected by fatshit and the untrust
The investors dont have £200 – time to call wonga
The mortgage money will never appear -((((( I lost my home in daves fiasco
the guaranteed mortgages dont exsist – ( more chance of life on Mars )
The resorts will never be built -Little boxes little boxes and they are all made out of ticky tacky
Harlequin Air is rusting away in St Lucia – more chance of coconut airways taking to the sky
the black pearl is scuttled( cant even do that properly) in Ottley – Argghh the black pearl me hearties ……
The money is in the bermuda triangle its simply dissapeared ……
But hey ho its nearly christmas
so Dave is going awandering along lifes dusty track whats the bet he is carrying our money on his back
as the great roy orbison once said “its over”
He also sang crying, with the lezzy KD Lang. Maybe Paddy is crying over his assets!
Padraig O Halloran goes to see the doctor because he is so obese
Doctor: I want you to eat regularly for 2 days, then skip a day, and repeat this procedure for 2 weeks. The next time I see you, you should have lost at least 5 pounds.
When the Paddy returned, he shocked the doctor by having lost nearly 60lbs!
“Why, that’s amazing!’ the doctor said, ‘Did you follow my instructions?”
O Halloran nodded… “I’ll tell you though, I t’aut I were going to drop dead on dat 3rd day.”
“From the hunger, you mean?”, asked the doctor.
O’ Halloran: “No, from the fookin’ skippin”
–
Game Over that’s all it is a Game and you are a sore looser
You HP trolls are so tedious and your crude repetitious ‘jokes’ are sexist and racist.
Do any of you have anything intelligent to add to the discussion or are you going to carp endlessly about the Irish builder? Ames handed over investors’ money and neglected to obtain a signed legal contract. Is this not a case of bungling incompetence by Ames?
In HD-World……obviously not !!!
Oh and whatever happened to that serious allegation about the suitcase of money that was allegedly ‘lost’ by DA earlier this year in a government office in SVG?
It’s true; all in good time old chap.
The reason the Irish fish eater is getting so much grief is because he pretends to be an investor, only wants BB to go down the pan.
Nothing less will be good enough – as a result F**king investors up.
Ames did it because he is a pillock, this fat turd is doing it because of just being a evil nasty bastard 😉
@EL2 any proof on the allegation? No thought not. Paddy is a liar, we all know it and it has been proved. What do you think about all the unpaid bills by ICE and his fraud?
@ FDFNRM
Actually Bob36, I’d be interested to hear what you have to say about all the unpaid Harlequin bills and the thousands of investors who are about to lose their life savings, pensions and homes. As you now, it runs into millions of pounds.
It would be nice to hear what Bob36 has to say about H-Hotel and
Merricks which the Irish builder had absolutely NOTHING to do with..
I think it goes without saying that Ames and the Irish builder are as dispicable as each other. I only wish the video of them together had been included in the sales pack. It would have done wonders to keep the number of sales down to a manageable level i.e. just Bob! Anyway, it’s a bit late to be stating the obvious but our money was clearly never in safe hands.
Ironic really when many lied about the true purpose of their UK mortgage applications, that too is called Fraud.
It’s also odd, blame the builder, blame the SIPP provider, but where is Ames in all this?
There will be no rescue, there can be no rescue, no accounts, no valuations (remember investors must pay for one), title deeds in different company names, due diligence yet to be carried out, potential litigation from SIPP insurers, ongoing Essex Police and SFO investigations, over 19 current cases in the Caribbean and the list goes on, what financiers will even look at this?
Attacking the builder is a futile exercise, he cannot influence the financiers, Ames said he was toast, Ames sold all his assets, aside from the 90% or so he used in lieu of cash to pay construction and hotel operating debts off.
The money is gone, the mortgage payments are gone, the returns are gone and soon all the contracts will be gone followed closely behind by Ames.
Hats off to Fatchett for giving false hope to thousands and keeping SFO and Shippleys at Bay.
Hats off to FDNRM for distracting investors.
Hats off to Ames for getting away with it, thanks in no small part to Fatchett.
Its only “hats off” when they get away with it…….and so far they haven’t.
Ames must go to jail. If uk is remotely civilized, he will die in jail.
@EL2 You interested what I have to say? No your not. your just on here agitating away as usual. Losing pensions? Keep up they will be the lucky ones.
It’s you’re, FFS you ignoramus
@Anon 666 DE DA DE DA spelling police. By the way there should a comma after FFS. Its called an interjection. LOL
It’s
BTW an interjection is a word not a punctuation mark. You ignorant no-mark.
I can understand the anger; Paddy had his assets sold, Broughton put so much misguided effort in; result ended up being a laughing stock.
And Dave Ames is still going strong 😉
They are both fat
I like being on here I get to spout bullshit all the time and you muppets lap it up.
Soon to be jobless.
A few questions for Mr Potato Head.
If you have such damming information on Harlequin & Dave Ames:
1. Why is he still operating?
2. Why did you lose the Court case?
3. Why has the SFO acted as you said many times the ‘authorities’ have the information.
4. How did he manage to sell your assets and freeze them?
So it must be true about the Irish being a bit Pat & Mick – Thick 😉
Just asking……..
@Anon 666 GET A LIFE. What an idiot.
The Irish builder is nothing but a thief, he is full of bullshit don’t listen to him
A company that owes 400 million hosts the FIFA World Cup trophy, sponsored by Coca Cola, followed up by a prize of a weeks holidays for all those rotund ones seeking to loose a few pounds before the Christmas Festivities. Bizarre.
@ Potato Famine
Why is Ames still operating?
Because he is not paying anyone as per their contracts. Has it somehow passed you by that RL are attempting to “RESCUE” Harlequin.?
Why has the SFO acted? Surely you mean why have they not acted?
Well the last time I looked which was 15 minutes ago, according to the serious fraud office, both they and the Essex police are indeed investigating Harlequin, which leads me to believe that they are acting, so possibly at some point they will prosecute, they may also drop the case, we just do nit know at this juncture, what we do know is they are still investigating Harlequin and the Ames family.
How did Ames manage to sell assets and freeze them?
Well that is a very good question, maybe Mr. Ames could answer that one. Or indeed his leading QC’s. That’s if they know about it, which of course they will deny all knowledge of.
Indeed Ames will ultimately deny that he sold any assets, it would be very interesting to see whether he would be prepared to reduce those claims to writing.
But heh it appears that some are willing to lap up everything the great POOHBA has to say as being factual.
That’s why people invested in the first place, and that is why people find themselves in the financial mess they are in as we speak.
So I personally would take everything the great POOHBA says with a very large pinch of salt.
Oh yes, I believe that the Irish case is being appealed. I am lead to believe it is being appealed on numerous grounds of fact and law, but Mr. Storey who appears to be very well acquainted with the case states that the appeal is purely in relation to the costs issues. So I could be wrong, yet so could Mr. Storey and god forbid, we do not want to stir that little hornets nest now do we.
But Mr. Fatchett will reveal all soon as he is engaging in due diligence, something maybe investors should have considered when buying into this.
£1000 down, nothing else to pay until completion, mortgage payments made on your behalf, then a completion mortgage at the end, then after all expenses were paid you would come out with as much as £40,000.00 a year, oh yeah tax free.
Wow.
Has anyone asked why Mr. Ames’s insurance policy would not cover the miss appropriation by the builders. Remember Ames accused the previous builder of theft too. Hence the plural.
But lets continue with attacking everyone anti Harlequin shall we, c’mon this is what this and the RL forum are really about. Some where we can all hide and slag off each other knowing we will never be identified. Where we can hide from our wives and husbands and live in a fantasy world, we can attack people knowing they will never know who we are.
I am not sure about you guys but it gives me a rush, its a power thing I guess, most have not got the £200 quid to pay Fatchett, so lets sit in a Starbucks and post anonymously knowing our IP will not be traced, and post absolute rubbish because it gives us a sense of worth and well being.
@ Irony
Spot on.
Irony do you not have anything else better to no old ladies to be mugging today?
What is so odd is the infatuation all of a sudden with the Irish Builder.
Ames has clearly stated that the Irish builder is “Toast” and that Ames froze “ALL” the Irish builders assets and sold them.
So the Irish builder is finished, gone, can do no more harm. Is Toast.
So have investors reaped a reward from this ? Has Ames resumed the interest payments ?
And surely given the damning evidence against the Irish builder and the judgement that showed that Wilkins Kennedy were in league and assisted the Irish builder in this heinous crime, why has Ames not sought to freeze the assets of Wilkins Kennedy and sell them too.
Oh apologies, Wilkins Kennedy are finished, that’s right and are going to pay Ames £50 million, why not make it a £100 million.
So why is there a rescue plan needed ? Why do investors have to enter into a trust? Why do they have to give up their contracts ?
Any financier would surely lend Ames £30 or £40 million on the back of Wilkins Kennedy’s insurers giving Ames £ 50 million.
Anyway that is immaterial, Ames has financiers willing to back him, so what’s the problem ? He has got the financial backing, £50 million from Wilkins Kennedy, millions more from the sale of frozen assets, a resort Paul Walton claims is making a profit.
So why the panic? Why is Garreth Fatchett full of doom and gloom. ?
Why are we even on here, upwards and onwards folks. Mr. Ames is a true creator, a visionary, and we have got him all wrong.
It is time to lead the charge in support of the Ames family. Horrah I say Horrah. Lets go over the top and defend the Ames family name to the death Horrah Horrah.
Three Cheers for Ames, Hip Hip Horrah, Hip Hip Horrah.
@Irony Yes it is ironic “Some where we can all hide and slag off each other knowing we will never be identified. Where we can hide from our wives and husbands and live in a fantasy world, we can attack people knowing they will never know who we are.”
And you use the ID of “Irony” Do you ever read what you are about to post?
@fdnrm…..this blog must suit you then as you think its a fantasy world
Bob, if you read my posts I was in fact making a point without having to lower myself to slagging off individuals.
If I had referred to you as a moronic, imbecilic, illiterate twat, who’s posts are nothing more than regurgitated Harlequin diarrhoea, then your last post might have made some sense, but I did not.
@Irony, dont criticise others for having an untraceable ID then do it yourself. That is true irony. That’s what we all expect from Paddy’s gang. .
One of the most profound things I ever learned is that you can never win an argument with someone who is too stupid or immature to realize they’re been refuted.
What I have noticed about truly ignorant people; is the thing they are most ignorant about is there own ignorance. They tend to stubbornly cling to the idea that they have all the answers and tend to be belligerent when someone challenges them.
Wise people I’ve noticed tend not to have a smug know-it-all attitude, but do realize they do not have all the answers.
Actually that’s how smart people get to be smart. By changing their beliefs when confronted with strong evidence to the contrary.
The key is to be intelligent enough to understand the evidence.
In a fight the first person to call the other person names or act in a derogatory manner towards them, is normally the instigator with something to hide.
Really like and enjoy your posts Mr. Irony but: someone/they’re
doesn’t parse very well…otherwise your English is about as
well edited at that in the “Economist”…….
@Irony, one of the things I have learnt is that someone who thinks they have won an argument because the other person does not see their point of view. That is what is known as egocentrism. Or they are very poor at stating their case. “otherwise your English is about as
well edited at that in the “Economist”…….” And the point is as well put as the Sun.
You bin smokin’ again Bob?
@ anonymous, apologies I should have stated “somebody” instead of “someone”. They’re, would be correct in the context of somebody. Lol
@ Anonymous, Ironically the irony of your reference to the Economist has been totally lost on Bob. Lol
Well I do suppose my post was intended to be understood by those highly educated readers on BFP.
@Irony, “Well I do suppose my post was intended to be understood by those highly educated readers on BFP.” Which includes? Thats right you. And you think you are intellectually better than who exactly? LOL
Ironeee do nit know lol
Its not old women he mugs just his Dad
GF seemed very cheerful to me….. so did Dave. Just that fat old Irishman, you know the one, with no assets needs to borrow from Pops 😉 and drag him to court.
Poor old chap
Irony
October 22, 2013 at 11:47 am
It this about me?
Bob, Im sure the 300K + costs Ames owes the builders father as a result of Ames loosing the action Ames took against him will make up for any monies the son might owe the father, don’t you think?
And I am sure you have all the facts, your ducks in a row so to speak, because no one can be as stupid, as to admit who they are and defend the indefensible, without being fully knowledgeable of all the facts.
You might someday wish to partake in a sensible discussion pertaining to Harlequin given your apparent full knowledge of events.
Seriously folks, why the sudden infatuation with the Irish Builder, why is Ames so rattled?
You guys bounce around like kangaroos on acid.
For a long time it was Newman and WK, then Broughton, now the Irish Builder. What is with you guys.
The builder is toast, Ames sold all his assets, Bob says the builder will loose the appeal, c’mon guys. Its over. Ames is restructuring, Fatchett is happy, all the investors must be happy too.
Harlequin are back, lets concentrate on all the good stuff. Ames won, he is vindicated, the SFO will drop the case. They know Ames is an honest decent man, so does Fatchett. So do all the investors, so does 7 capital. Everyone except the builder loves Ames.
Matt will get off, he did nothing wrong. So c’mon. Just cause the builder treats his family like crap. Who cares?
Ames loves his family. That’s what counts. He loves his investors everyone. Pull together. Let go of the past. I admit some of us are so jealous of Ames but we need to get over it. Fatchett is a decent upstanding solicitor and Ames an upstanding business man.
@In the know. And where does it say that Ames owes O’Halloran senior 300k+ costs?
And where did I say that Paddy would loose the appeal.?
Common Paddy, just because you have been sent packing from the RL site dont turn up here again with your lies. Who are you going to be today?
Ralph/API/Lost my home/Worried investor/I know something you dont? Why not have a real laugh and call yourself Irony. Sorry he’s just TOO intelligent.
in the know….think you been sampling the acid thats for the kangaroos, especially the last half of you post :-0)
Aye Paddy Paddy that’s what’s pissing you off 🙂
You wont get your way, anyhow did you pay your Dap back with out money?
Paddy you thick mick, you nicked money and got caught. you conned your old dad into this. only difference in you and ames, he has not been to court yet. he will.
So go and give EB one in the fat flaps
Has Paddy got any comment about his trip to London this week he was boasting about on RL last week before he got taken down?
Walter Mitty, that’s all he is
Ames is in London tomorrow another fascinating evening of drivel.
Wonder how many cheap holidays he will try and give away.
Lets keep the attacks going, yup that is sure to get your money back. C’mon Bob what about Wilkins Kennedy, Newman, Oldman, the postman.
The money is gone folks, all gone. Simples …………
Who is Oldman and the posman? Are these Irish code names for something?
I have never posted on this forum but have read with interest most of the posts on here and other sites, what is blatantly obvious is the extent to which those who support Harlequin will go to try and discredit the Irish builder. This against the backdrop of recent warnings from the RL solicitors that they needed to tread very carefully when it came to the Irish Builder and his colleagues.
Now I would be more inclined to pay heed to what a qualified legal firm has to say on the matter, then trying to be influenced by a bunch of anonymous on line racially abusive thugs.
One would have to be very naive not to take on board the RL warning. A bunch of nameless posters on an anonymous blog site posting what is sometimes racially motivated profanity only demonstrates that someone out there, presumably Harlequin have something to fear.
I guess this will soon come out in the course of the RL due diligence. We will just have to wait and see.
Well said…
I suggest Charlie Brown that before you start making the assumption that Ralph, API, Worried Investor and many more are whiter than white then read back through these threads. If you want to learn something start on another thread from August 11th. It’s paddy and his mates who are the Internet thugs.
Dear FDNRM, I am most certainly not saying that these guys are whiter then white, but I do know they have a lot of support amongst those in power in the Caribbean outside of St. Vincent.
They also are very well connected in the US and Middle East.
These guys are far from Toast as alluded to by Mr. Ames. And these guys unfortunately or otherwise have very deep pockets. They most certainly do not have the interests of investors at heart, that I will agree with you on, but only a fool would portray these guys in the way they are portrayed on this forum.
And RL are fully aware of this. Hence the warning from RL that they need to tread really carefully where it comes to these guys.
But if anyone has Harlequin skeletons hidden in the closet these are the guys who probably have them and if that is the case and I suspect it is, my guess is that they have yet to drop a bombshell.
Hence the reason RL state they need to carry out due diligence before a rescue can be implemented. This is the point at which RL will walk away.
I do not condone for one moment what these guys may have done, but Harlequin are very worried and that should concern all investors.
Gosh – I love a really good conspiracy theory……..
Then you won’t like this one Anon. It’s rubbish.
I’ve not heard anything about the Crozier 13 for a while. Are they still in business? Please don’t tell me they’ve been paid off!!
@ Charles Brown
P**S off Paddy, talk about blowing smoke up ya own arse.
You wish, have you ‘borrowed’ more money from your Daddy?
I’m dead scared now…………oooooooooooooooow lets drop our trust and join Paddy the well connected one.
what a load of W4nk
Sid, if they had they would not be able to say NDA’s
@ the one who stole our money.
The trust only benefits Ames, Ames and his cronies in HP are the ones who stole the money. You really think that there are 6000 idiots out there who swallow the shit you and that prick Ames spew out?
Any intelligent human being can see Ames and the HP senior management for what they are. Thieving, Lying uneducated scum.
And Fatchett wants out. He cannot save the day and he knows it.
Proof Darling; Proof 😉
Time itself will be all the proof we need.
A few serious questions for the Irish builder and his ‘Team’
No doubt you have information on Harlequin and the Ames family, that I accept.
However, if the information is so damming, and you have given it to the authorities. Why is Ames still peddling his wares?
Furthermore, why did you lose the Irish Court case?
One last question linked to the above unless you are holding something back, why not just sit back and let the whole thing go down the pan instead of posting under several aliases pretending that you want to help investors; clearly, that is not the case.
I firmly believe it will not end up in a happy situation unless you had regulated advice. I despise Ames and The Irish builder along with ALL Harlequin staff.
God will pay them ALL back, never fails.
At least Ames has the ‘bottle’ to meet his investors. The fat builder just hide behind his keyboard….. bit like me LOL.
Come to Basildon and say Hello? 😉
Sorry, missed you out Erica, I know you crave the attention. Any luck with your bingo wings?
How do you manage to get them soooooooo big?
Crooks selling to idiots, crooks then hiring other crooks, crooks steal money, idiots then somehow expecting to get bailed out by a very mediocre law firm. Net result, crooks win. All over a “business” that is flawed and worth very little. What a farce.
I was at the London meeting yesterday and have to say I’m glad I went and am now feeling much more positive about the future. Hats off to Fatchett who is clearly the brains behind the rescue and has done a fantastic job of developing a strategy that gives hope to all types of investors as well as safe guarding the future for locals in the various countries, as the resorts will get built and occupied by tourists. There is no guarantee of a happy ending but this plan is far better than anything else I’ve seen and seems realistic to me. My view is that Ames will play an ever decreasing role in the new HP and will eventually be managed out altogether, which is best for everyone. The resorts will be owned and run by professionals with input from the investor committee. Time will tell if Ames ever sees the inside of a prison, but we can’t really influence that and it is pretty irrelevant at this point in time. We are far better off focusing our efforts on making the new scheme work and protecting our futures.
After seeing the stupid one babble on in London yesterday I am amazed how that man managed to pull the whole thing off
If, and it, is a F***CKING bif if, this mess gets sorted it will be via a Trust and Ames got ride of.
He was is embarrassing idiot.
Sid, well said. He all but said he would ‘retire’ its the only way. But joking apart the man is an idiot.
Fatchett was good I have to say, told it how it was.
I know what you mean TTT. I think the Ames retirement is part of the plan that he will have no choice about. I see take overs time and again in my business and that’s what this rescue appears to be to me. The ‘Financier’ will bring in a new management team and will not want Ames and his people anywhere near HP. I also take your point about Fatchett. He came across very well and is definitely at the controls. If Borat were there last night I think he would say “Ames without Fatchett is like monkey without grinder”. And who the hell was that Bob bloke they dragged in from the 80’s?
Could not agree more with you Sid.
Bob bloke – The name has stuck.
No idea what that’s all about, this is the totally independent Pro Harlequin Group….., the very one Hatlequin’s solicitors ( ELS) registered the LLP for Bob bloke 🙂 The United to suck seed 😉
I bet he fancies himself as a trustee!! make BB all retro
I can only think of him as Dwight from the US version of The Office.
Looks like it is actually worth reporting to Action Fraud
http://m.west-midlands.police.uk/latest-news/press-release.asp?ID=5383
A woman from Dudley eh? Isn’t that where Fatchett’s from? Quick…let’s start another rumour!
@Sid
I had to Google him – your not wrong gave me much need laugh.
He looks like an IT geek, no personality and weird
http://theoffice.wikia.com/wiki/Dwight_Schrute
Anon405, come on Dave Ames never sold wedding dresses.:)
‘Breaking news’
Midlands solicitor Gareth Fatchett, found in bed with Dave Ames wearing a wedding dress, Dave Ames when questioned said;
‘Let me make it very clear I did not have relations with that man, It was the Irish builder ‘
Dwight is an investor. Who’d have thought it?!
Wow. And that was in the paper? It has to be true then. Tell everyone!!
I can’t believe Paul Walton wasn’t in there somewhere too. He’s always in there when it’s sexy time. It’s on all the forums. He’s banging everyone so was probably in bed with Ames and Fatchett. Spread the word!
Don’t be silly he was just in full Masonic ‘Dress’ 😉
Walton said ‘My moustache still tastes of your testes! ‘
That’s untrue he was seen at secret location in London
It is about time I was truthful about everything. I run the United To Succeed website I am part of the PHIG along with Paul Walton, Richard Ingham, Stephen W and James Shaw. I work at Globtek as a Sales Manager.
Naughty Bob, you been cheating on me?
My impersonator is too stupid to know my working situation now. How to make yourself look like an idiot on a blog lol. Is that you Jeremy, you like to look at my Linkedin site.
Got it now it’s all about the sex! That’s where the money has gone all having sexy time dressed up in funny stuff.
Why have a Linkedin site if you don’t want it looked at? Sort
of like a Ferrari with bald tires……..
Just because I have a site it doesn’t mean it’s up to date. And why would Jeremy Newman look at my site? Perhaps he wanted to help me with my tax planning.
I wonder how many volunteers will come forward to take a place on the Trust Board? I can’t see many volunteering, apart from it being time consuming, it will be a thankless task, no doubt getting insulted after doing your best!
Is anybody putting their CV forward for consideration or do you think GF & DA know who they want already?
FDNRM You aren’t denying that you are in the PHIG or running the united to succeed website?
Also was that you wearing that nasty shiny pinstriped suit yesterday evening in the London meeting?
@TS well I did not deny it because no one asked me. Believe it or not I am not the only person in the world with the name of Bob.
Bob Storey is not Bob stuck in the 80’s.
He did mention his name, it was not Storey.
Ames has booked a few one way tickets on Quantas. Adios Amigos. Its soon to be good night from the Ames clan. Exit Stage Left.
A catchy new name….
Ames will have some nasty little trick up his sleeve that is a safe bet.Don’t forget he is above the law.
Nah. I think it’s gone beyond Ames now. I think his last act will be to hand the business over to the new investors/owners and see out the existing court cases.
Give him his dues, he gives as good as he gets.
He also looks like a genius alongside Ames.
I vote we change the name of Buccament Bay to Fatchment Bay.
Only fair..
@ Fatchment Bay ?
I would prefer a more cautious approach.
Hoodwinked Bay
Or no frigging due diligence cove
Oh Oh Beautifull Lucky Buccamentbay
Anyone joining the un-trust should go here you would have to be a space cadet to agree to anything with Ames involved
If you went to any of the meetings, you can see very clearly that Ames is finished. He is the caretaker until either (a) the new financiers or (b) the liquidators are appointed.
Either (a) or (b) will need him – for a bit.
Jokes on you, go and aska child how to post a youtube link 🙂
anyone joining the un-trust should go here you would have to be a space cadet to agree to anything with Ames involved
Ya daft cock Paddy
Let me make this clear, I agree.
He won’t be around for long 🙂
Seems like the Trust is going to happen, the Freemasons get their way as always. Did anyone notice Gareth Fatchetts tie at the meetings?
If that’s not proof don’t know what else you need.
Glad that fat cow and fat Paddy finally have shut up, 🙂
Ran out of bull Sh!t ?
Sorry forgot to ask how’s your muffin top?
If he wore a Freemason tie he was hardly hiding the fact was he? And if he is so what?
Are we looking at 5 Freemasons as the Directors of the Trust?
Utter stupidity from the Harlequin trolls again.
Honestly, do any of you think you could ever be taken seriously in the world of business and finance?
I guess we all know Ames is deffo Fatchetts puppet these days. lolhttp://youtu.be/iQPXZ1vYWPE
@EL2 compared with you Lizzard. Yep. Same old boring boring comments. Yawn.
Anonymous
October 26, 2013 at 6:36 pm
I hope so they are the ones with proper connections. if it works why the F**K not?
Before you start your nasty retaliation; don’t put things in the public domain if you want to hide your light under a (large) bushel ;).
TS – you are a vile individual.
If you really think that the ridiculous fantasist Ames could ever have made a success of this exercise in delusion, Broughtons or no Broughtons, then you are even more stupid than you are spiteful.
@Anonymous, what a pity you did not call Ralph spiteful when my personal details were posted on here. Details which were not in the public domain.
Fantastic !!!…now Bob and Stephanie share being outed in common.
So I guess Roberto that from now on I should just consider 50% of
your non-ending constant bellyaching as worthy of any consideration.
Your grasp of logic and reasoning is zilch. What the hell does it matter?
I suppose since I am anonymous and your (not by your choice aren’t)
makes a difference. I say not !!! Bottom line is that Ames conned
you all.
Damn it……. I meant “you are”…Yikes ! My English after months of
reading this is going to hell……..
FDNRM Bob le Knob 34 Sportman, Bob Storey you were quite happy to post other people’s personal details on here before you got outed. You also stalked posters wives through their social media and posted innuendo here about their whereabouts. That’s creepy as well as pervy.
Your constant harping on about the Broughtons is nothing short of disgraceful.
So don’t come the bleating little innocent on here. Serves you right you nasty little hypocrite.
This would all of worked out perfect if it was not for the Broughtons they are the ones who had the first meeting and stopped DA from getting more money of people that is what has caused this problem.
Imagine what it could of been like if it was not for them……….
@in.the.sun. Wrong, no personal details from me until after that creep Ralph posted on here. Of course the reference to a cat walking across a keyboard would have been lost on you, or would it? You seem to be very well informed about my references to other people. And you call that creepy and pervy? Suggest you look at your own personal preferences. Or should I call you Poppy?
@Anon. more to the point what do you matter? Just like your ID, Anonymous in name, anonymous in content.
Nonsense KM! There is no one except DA to blame. It was doomed to failure from the very beginning. The Broughtons wanted their deposit back which they were legally entitled to. IF Ames had given them their money back you would all still be in blissful ignorance and dreaming of riches beyond your imagination. You still believe it could have worked. Do remember that all Ponzi schemes like this one run out of money when the bottom tier of people eventually stops investing. The warnings were there as far back as 2008 and you all chose to ignore them preferring to believe a dodgy salesman and his hair-brained get rich quick scheme.
The only people who made money out of this are the Ames family and the salespeople masquerading as financial experts (I’ll include the Manderfield woman in that). Scum all of them!!!
I am sorry you got sucked into it.
My what an ego you have ‘The Broughtons’ do you actually think you had any influence whatsoever? How very sad.
You seem to forget; admitting being all cosy with the Irish builder? Remember the one who pays for nice little holidays?
Keeps paying you still 😉 yep we know all about it.
How could a mother let her daughter get obese? Lead by example I say.
in.th,sun He did give them their money back for their Brazil investment as per their contract. The Broughtons were prepared to bring everything down because of their own private vendetta. So what you are saying is that if the Broughtons had got their money back for 2 Rivers Ralph/API/Malcolm White etc etc would not have appeared? Yeah right Paddy would have kept in his box.
I would love the ‘Broughtons’ to explain supporting the Irish builder, apart form the cash payments they receive on a regular basis.
Oh so that’s all right then Bob! The Broughtons got their money back. And you go and feckin’ on about them and the builder ad nauseum for months on end. Who has seen that you are all right Bob? I bet you won’t answer that one. Just come back with one of your a glib nasty insults.
I’ll lump you in with the Harlequin scum.
@TS proof please that the Irish builder is paying the Broughtons for their disruptive stance .
@FDNRM – How do you know they got money back “as per contract” are you a Harlequin staff member ?
Does this matter at all now Gareth has sorted it all out ?
GG.
The fat one confirmed that, she was refunded. She, also confirmed she was in contact with the Irish builder – frequently.
Then If I recall got so defensive when holidays were mentioned and who paid for them 😉
We have more proof of things than you would ever imagine – especially photographs………
I do not give a flying f ck about the fat one it is you lot on here who has destroyed everything for me, why would I want to invest in a company that behaves like this? why would I want to pay your wages for you to sit on your bony arses talking shit on here? nobody in their right minds would so good luck im out and when the vertically challenged one want to blame everyone else tell him to man up this is his fault
Now now Poppy, dont go purple with rage.
Just as I predicted. One of your twattish glib insults.
Well said The thieves and their merry men..
Still talking shit then Bob?
@in.the.sun, I dont have a clue what you mean. Or are you just a big pussy?
Bob’s got a real problem with women. He loves to talk down to them. In his mind it helps him to prove his superiority.
Of course I’m superior. No one is taking me to court.
See what I mean!
No, I don’t.
Bob just hates overweight women who try and ruin his investment whilst taking freebies from Irish builders who defrauded investors of some $30 million.
Why would they get involved with the builder 😉
Maybe a bit of fat on fat going on?
Just, pray tell, who allowed a $30 million fraud to occur? And
the figure is very doubtful……no records ever provided. The Irish
builder did not bring Ames down, Ames did it to himself.
FFS! TS What has a woman’s weight got to do with this? Are you for real?
Dave Ames lost your cash. He didn’t even get a receipt for it when he handed over. He’s got a very nice house though. All the Ameses have got very nice houses with swimming pools and flashy cars and take flashy holidays. All paid for with your money. Doesn’t that make you angry?
Sadly TS has become a little obsessive over the Broughton Family . No one can blame an investor for the mess this company is in however confused they became during the process . Thank god for Gareth who seems to have brought it back from the brink, even though I know I will not recover my investment in full at least I now understand the redress process and whats is really happening .
TS What evidence have you got? show and tell if not shut up you are sounding as bad as the Irish builder with his non existent evidence.
It appears that the chronics on the RL site have battened down.
Somehow Robert comes to mind as one who would argue against
climate change even as the roof over his loo is being blown away.
older news, but it seems to have passed below the radar. –
http://www.international-adviser.com/news/uk/reg-legal-and-ifa-entrepreneur
so how is this connected to the ‘Trust” I wonder?
It’s just the outright vindictive duplicitous nature of the Broughtons I have a problem with, hence me poking fun at their obesity.
They have done very well out of the Irish builder, yet they claim to be ‘Pro Investors’ utter rubbish. It’s just about the money.
Remember the ‘we have recording’s saga’, the,’ I’m being followed the saga’. I could continue, but it’s, frankly, boring.
They are just dysfunctional family; totally and utterly out of their depth in the financial and legal world.
Stick to ironing.
People who should never have invested money they could not afford to loose.
If you borrowed money to invest you are just thick. If you borrowed money to invest AND committed mortgage fraud – look at yourself for blame!
Then let it go TS….let it go.
@TS, Earlier you said “We have more proof of things than you would ever imagine – especially photographs………”
and then you say
“we have recording’s saga’, the,’ I’m being followed the saga’”
. Make your mind up!!
It really sounds to me that you are one of Harlequin and that You did follow them and you have gone out of your way to make their lives hell and if they did record Harlequin then it was obviously justified.
I do not give a f ck if they are all fat they are investors and unless you can prove all you say then shut the f ck up you are destroying our investment so go to hell
@TS is full of it.
I understand from your writing style and grammar; English is not for first language. Therefore, I forgive I forgive your waffle as it makes no sense whatsoever.
Unless you are just trying to appear stupid, in that case you have succeeded.
Give it a rest TS. You’re making yourself look so stupid.
I see that the Basildon skunkworks (Fibs and Porkies Dept.) is back in business posting TA reviews about BB. You can so easily spot these one post wonders that it does make you wonder how they get away with it?
And all just so that they can push one review by an obviously genuine traveler down the list so it is no longer in view. It wasn’t even an overall bad review, but it did contain the following –
“No trips were available due to a lack of numbers and we really wanted to go to the Tobago Cays. There is significant construction but this was stopped and you just get the feeling that the resort is in trouble.
The extras we were promised did not materialize but the food was superb.
One really hopes the place gets better support, it really deserves it. Their whole marketing strategy is wrong and running football in the Caribbean is not the best of ideas with no real nightlife or other activities available.”
It’s the Harlequin mindset through and through, never address a problem, either deny it exists, and sue anyone who says otherwise, or try and hide it under layers of BS.
@BB.
Bucc Bay is nothing special I will grant you that. Nonetheless, SVG is the real problem its a horrible, dirty, little third World country.
“Bucc Bay is nothing special” Was that due to Paddy’s building skills? Better now the drains are connected though.
Bob, it’s not good because its not good. It’s a F***ing building site. SVG is a dirty crime ridden shanty town.
‘Was that due to Paddy’s building skills? Better now the drains are connected though.’
No, more down to the original design & concept. The buildings at BB look like 1960s Soviet Bloc social housing. You can stuff them with as many flat screen tellies, fancy beds and coffee makers but as the old saying goes – you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
36/FDRNM Ask your mates in Basildon HQ if those drains are still pumping excrement into the bay?
I prefer the following;
‘can’t polish a turd’
in a recent article RL are quoted as saying returns possible within 3-5 years if trust accomplished and finance forthcoming. would be interesting to know how this will be achieved. have the sites now got full planning, have all the EIA studies been completed, have they obtained a full detailed costing on all sites as to how much these resorts will actually cost to build…. how many claims have actually been awarded by the fscs? what will happen if like Arck the fscs say they will not be making a decision until the SFO have completed their investigations. Any potential FSCS payout may be a long time coming..
Long time coming better then never 😉
You would know if you were on the trust would you not? Is that not one of the idea’s of it?
What’s up Paddy feeling left out?
“A third world country? ” Soon to have an international airport.
Haiti, Nepal, Ethiopia and Democratic Republic of the Congo some of the poorest countries in the world all have international airports. An airport has not benefitted the citizens of these countries, only burdened them with debt.
There is no infrastructure or large scale tourism industry on St Vincent to make an international airport financially viable. For your info there were 20 people staying at Buccament Bay a couple of weeks ago.
So what’s your point 36FDNRW? We realise that’s quite a difficult question for you and you might have to go ask your minders in Basildon. Off you trot then!
Forgot to add that nearby Canouan has an international airport but I believe service is currently suspended for big jets and night flights. It hasn’t benefitted the people or the businesses of the region so why should the new Argyle?
Buccament Bay resort may be a blot on the landscape, but describing the entire nation of SVG in such sweeping and prejudicial terms is both stupid and ignorant. Palm Island and the Bequia Beach Hotel have recently been in the top picks in Caribbean travel features in both the Telegraph and The Guardian newspapers and Bequia is widely regarded as one of the best quality destinations in the entire region. The Canouan Resort is a top quality development – with an existing first class golf course (if you like that sort of thing) that Harlequin could only aspire to. Yes, St Vincent island is underdeveloped and does lack infrastructure, but as I’ve always said, BB was the wrong development in the wrong place, a reflection of a management decision of total stupidity that was always heading for disaster, not the fault of the island. In fact Buccama was a favourite anchorage for visiting yachtsmen and rightly regarded for it’s simple charm – by those who appreciate that kind of thing.
The damage that Harlequin has caused will long have a lasting negative impact.
It would be interesting to hear what a corporate economist/planner
at AA, BA, AirCanada, or Virgin has to say. I predict that it will be
many years before direct continental flights are initiated. Certainly
the world economy has to drastically improve. Things are not looking
good for the Lesser Antilles.
The above two posts make me wonder if a -“rescue plan”- will ever
happen. Just exactly how many sun-starved Brits are currently in
the market for what amounts to a “time-share”. It seems to me that
DA sort of cleaned out the bottom of the barrel and what is left is the
high-high-high end which any Harlequin development will not appeal to.
@BB I am referring to the Island SV, It’s at best rough, people living in terrible conditions. The ‘Capital’ feels dirty and dangerous.
The crime rate of horrendous, sorry to upset you and all that; but its just not a nice place.
Bequia, granted is better.
The drive from the airport to BB, you think what the hell have I come to. Lets not mention the delays and Liat.
@FDISVG Who is FDNRW? Do you not know your W from your M? Haiti, Napal, Ethiopia, DRoC are not associated with tourist destinations so your analogy is rather strange. Perhaps you should refer to the post from “a Visitor to the Island” who mentions the one big problem for tourists to SVG, LIAT Who in their right mind would go to SVG and have that disaster to contend with. Now as you say, trot off to your Paddy minders for your next post. Good boy. See we can all play that stupid game.
@FDISVG, for your information Napal has 30 international airlines flying to it, Haiti 17 and Ethiopia 12. I’m sure SVG would find those numbers acceptable. No airport, no tourist uplift.
@A visitor to the Island
Based on what exactly? – a weeks stay with Harlequin at Buccament Bay? What are you comparing SVG with? Did you even know where St Vincent was before going there?
The same questions could of course be asked to many of the investors – perhaps if they had done just a tiny amount of research they might have realized why this resort would never be a success.
SVG is a very poor nation (which raises big questions about the degree of indebtedness that they have had to take on to finance the new airport) and there is considerable poverty and indeed crime BUT that isn’t the whole story.
If you want your holiday destinations fully sanitized before you condescend to visit them try Disneyworld.
@36/frdnw
It’s Nepal.
If you had read and understood my post you would see that I said that building international airports in poor countries does not necessarily benefit the citizens – only burdens them with debt.
Now why don’t you go and stalk some girlies on LinkedIn. That’s much more up your street.
BBaywatch – Strange that you mention it but a
PiratesoftheCaribbeanWorld in SVG would be right up
my alley.
@FDinSVG What is this frdnw? If you are going to be the spelling police get your own right first! Stalking on LinkedIn? not me I was the one BEING stalked idiot!
I can understand why everyone is uneasy about signing over their contracts to the trust I am very wary of signing over my contractual rights. I am speaking to my union solicitor about it so I am not having to rely on Gareth. I recommend everyone to speak to their union it is free of charge before signing over your contracts.
If anyone has a signed agreement of a refund which has not been upheld you are able to make a claim through the small claims court for a county court judgement.
Hi Anon75, I don’t think it’s that simple as you have the issue of the contract being with a company based in SVG….that and HP having no money to be sued for!
@Dave Ames, you’re obviously an impostor. The real DA would never be as charming and subtle as you!
That’s not true about the stalking 36/PERV but you know that already. Via social media, you stalked the female partners of posters you disliked and who were giving Harlequin a hard time. You then posted their names and addresses on here and said you were going to turn up at the venues they happened to be attending that weekend. Some people might say that’s intimidating.
So don’t play the poor ickle innocent victim.
Anon 75.
Yes you can up to a maximum £5k, then you have to enforce it, how do you expect them to pay out of what?
I’m sure that Harlequin is absolutely terrified of your Union.
Have you actually thought this through?
Financial disaster in SVG:
Who has poor little Bob stalked? He is a victim of Ralph aka Irish fat F**K
Sue DA personally – take the clothes off his back…
Many have tried, nobody got paid yet did they? Legal costs are so so high 😉
I have a contract that DA signed saying he would pay me back over eighteen months he stopped paying this late last year.
This contract is with Harlequin in Essex
The trust cannot just ride rough shod over this agreement can it!
Yes, legal fees are indeed very expensive; one only needs to ask any of Nikki Croziers clients.
The must have racked up what £100k? or £150k? In fees.
Recovered what exactly?
Nothing!
Not even gone to trial has it? The fees will be eye watering 😉
Einstein 75.
So what are you going to do with this contract? HMSSE is in Administration.
Join the rest of the unsecured creditors.
You will get pennies if you are fortunate to get anything.
You could always ask your Union.
TS don’t you or 36/POORKNOBBOB read the posts? What is it with you guys? All you want to do is agitate with stoopid posts about the Irish builder and women’s weight.
TS, I’m beginning to think you are as perverted as 36/bobbietallstories. Here’s a link to fat fetishism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_fetishism
Why don’t the pair of you fuck off and take it to yer room?
I would rather have a romp with Bob that that big fat lump Broughton – that goes for all of them.
As I suggested, TS why don’t you take your fantasies to your room. We don’t wanna read about them.
Yo getting a little too excited?
@FDinSVG. You are a hoot. For anyone to know about my posting regarding a cake stall in Bray you would have to be either
1)related to the person in question
2)stalking the same person.
So Jeremy which one is it. By the way you spelling “Ickle” is that meant to be little? Did the cat walk over your keyboard again? Oh and by the way I did not post their names or their partners names and addresses on here. More lies you paddy follower.
Is ONAN somewhere in the FE?
This forum is a vivid demonstration of how the internet can be used to divert attention away from the real issues. Those being
(a) Investors were miss sold (conned) into investing in Harlequin.
(b) Investors will not now see their promised returns.
(c) Ames has not (yet) been made accountable for his actions, whether that being the control of contractors, the control of investor funds or more importantly the money he has spent on various personal properties as was highlighted in a Basildon Newspaper Article this Saturday just passed.
(d) And no one has made reference to the ongoing police and SFO investigations into Harlequin and Ames in recent weeks.
It must also be remembered that many mortgage investors engaged in mortgage fraud by lying on their application forms.
What has Mr. Fatchett really achieved? A proposal were by those investors who sign up will relinquish not only their contracts but also the chance to seek legal redress against Harlequin and or Ames for a number of years.
In 7 years Harlequin failed to raise external finance, now a trust is being formed and investors believe that money will pour in.
There were reasons why finance was not forthcoming in the past. Yet in all the discussions surrounding Harlequin no one has examined this issue nor examined the reasons why finance was not forthcoming.
Many of the underlying reasons remain. There are no available accounts for Harlequin’s Caribbean companies. Occupancy of the Buccament Bay Resort reportedly hovers around the 10% mark. Airlift capacity cannot be blamed for this.
The Hotel in St. Lucia is being managed by a former agent and PR guru of Harlequin.
A strange redefinition of luxury in the Caribbean.
This post like others that raise pertinent issues will be attacked by those anonymous supporters of Harlequin.
But those posters are free to attack other posters, but all they are doing is demonstrating to the world at large why Harlequin was an investment to be avoided at all costs.
Bob, I dont think anyone gives a fuck about you, you fucking weirdo.
@ 36 Bob
‘Is ONAN somewhere in the FE?’
No it certainly isn’t you silly ol’ wanker. But you were close. (well ish).
@Anon. LOL if no one cares why are you posting about me. Obsessed? Financial Disaster in SVG seems to know a lot about me also. Another obsessive person.
Don’t flatter yourself 36/Blob
You is not important.
Any pro Harlequin posters care to comment on Michael Bradshaw’s reasoned and cogent post at 6.47 pm?
No, thought not. Just stick to the comments about fatties and paddys.
Yes Anon, what is the point writing a long post just regurgitating information that has been well discussed in the past? Absolutely pointless and just clogs up this thread so it takes longer to load up. There you have a comment. Happy?
@ANON
Regarding Michael Bradshaw’, it’s that fat Fu** of an Irish man, can you just piss off and shag Broughton (again)
How’s your assets Paddy?
Make up your own mind
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/57463.stm
I post what I consider a reasonable post and TS responds in the manner in which he/she does. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
One has to ask what it is the Irish builder has on Ames that rattles TS et al.
Sad really.
MBoHP- You go guy/gal!!!!!! I love it….
Be jaysus, Id say that Ames be shittin himself of the nasty bilder lol. Jaysus sure didnt he pay millions for that gobshite Ghent to protect him. Oh yeah, be jaysus we can say what we wont on here cause nobody knows us, oh yeah except for Bob, but hes a gobshite.
And sure why would we be saying anyting nasty about the bilder unless we hide behind stupid names and we is shittin it. Lol sure to be sure. But what is sure to be sure is Fatshit and Ames are shitten it.
Fatshit the hero.? Beware of leprachauns bearing gifts, or was that fairies. Fatshit knows it all because Ames told him. Lol
And Bob Story is one fuckin fool. Lol a fuckin ape. At least TS is a fuckin coward to be sure to be sure, but aye probably a cute coward lol.
@CTLOY At least spell my name right. Moron.
Bob Storey you are still one fuckin fool though.
Cowards the lot of ye lol & Michael Bradshaw
Paddykins please stop posting as other people it’s tedious, you have been beaten plain and simple.
Interesting you mention the word ‘coward’, you hide behind the Broughtons very simple people you manipulate; you loan money from frail father; you steal money from someone who you befriended, rip off investors.
Now you come on this blog, trying in vain, to bankrupt Harlequin.
F**of you fat c**t back to your lesbo wife
Paddy: A question were you such a poor looser at school? Or is all this bitterness because one of your catlickin priests took a shine to you 😉
Harlequin has always tried its damnedest to silence reasoned debate on internet websites. Sadly their method of attempting to disrupt threads leaves a lot to be desired and the above post is just one example of the many crude foul-mouthed posts they have left here. Can you imagine them speaking to their wives or mothers in such a derogatory manner? I bet they wouldn’t try it on at work either.
Disgusting.
I was referring to the post by Paddy the pot licker October 30, 2013 at 9:50 am.
One only hopes that the new financiers do not read this inane rubbish put on here by Harlequin who are destroying our investment Mr Ames has trouble controlling staff as well as our finance.
Strong minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
weak minds discuss people.
Fat Paddies who nicked your money, what do they discus?
Silly me, what to spend the 30 million on 😉
I’m not pro Ames; but anti Irish builder.
Not fond of kiddie fiddlers either, or preists
The Irish builder just wants any rescue plan to fail, then he will not have to pay back his ill gotten gains.
Why ANY INVESTORS would side with him, who knows? Well actually I do – money he pays for holidays and legal costs for his band of chubby followers.
Disgusting parasitic common scum.
@TS its naive to assume he would pay back anything in his case bankruptcy will be the first choice , no investor will see one penny of the claim . It is a well documented fact that the case has gone to appeal and even if this is a delaying tactic the money has gone never to return .
Most important now is the trust to secure the assets on behalf of the investors and move forward . The money has vanished from all sides so let us now work on our own recovery and rescue guided by Gareth.
Ames sold assets belonging to the ICE Group in St. Vincent and the Grenadines. Those assets were sold before the Irish Judgement was given.
The selling of those assets is in contravention of court orders and freezing orders in the Caribbean and this as Ames knows full well, will cause him huge problems in the future.
The sale of the assets allowed Harlequin to maintain operations at Buccament Bay. Many creditors including Kelly Glass were given ICE Group assets in lieu of monies owed to them by the Ames Family and Harlequin. The suggestion by Ames that the assets were sold to cover legal costs is a further demonstration of the dishonesty being peddled by Ames and those who support him.
The Irish judgement is now the subject of an appeal. Yet some on here, probably posting under multiple ID’s have pre supposed the appeal. FDNRM wrongly stated in the past that the appeal was in respect of the costs issues. It is in respect of the judgement as a whole.
TS wrongly states the amount in question is $30 million dollars, the amount in dispute is $13 million USD as is reflected in court documents.
This is 2% of all monies taken by Harlequin. So what about the other 98%? Are TS et Al seriously trying to convince the world at large, that this caused the collapse of Harlequin.
Garreth Fatchett has stated that those with SIPP contracts some 60% of purchasers will obtain redress for the wrongful selling of properties by their agents and IFA’s.
Yet those agents received in excess of £120 million in commissions. Some 30% of monies taken by Harlequin. Fatchett claims these sales were wrong, illegal, hence his absolute confidence in seeking redress.
Would the miss selling of the Harlequin product have come to light if there had been no litigation with the Irish builder? Now that is the question?
Is this why TS et Al are so upset.
According to Fatchett the properties were miss sold, illegally sold, which ever way you look at it. 1.2 Billion pounds worth of property was miss sold. And not a peep about this from TS et Al. Nothing. Did the Irish builder sell these properties? When would this illegal selling have come to light?
Ames to give him credit puts on a bloody good show at ineptitude and the crocodile tears might work on some. But was it really all the fault of the builder and those agents?
At the end of the day Ames was responsible for safe guarding 400 million of investors money, it is hugely apparent that he failed in his duties to do so. Yet the Ames family have benefited personally to the tune of some £20 million. 5% of all monies received and lest we not forget the assets in Dave Ames’s personal name in addition to the £20 million, assets acquired using investor funds.
For 7 years Harlequin have failed to raise finance, and yes there are numerous reasons why. FDNRM again wrongly states that this issue has been discussed in detail.
TS et Al have spent all their energies in attempting to divert attention away from the Ames family, probably in an attempt to sway investors into signing up to a trust and signing away their rights. Who knows? It is also probably an attempt, (although utterly futile in the long run), in diverting attention away from senior members of the Harlequin Organisation.
The future of Harlequin will be decided by lawyers, accountants (IP’s) and the authorities. And the childish, wholly inaccurate and utterly disingenuous comments being made by Ames’s loyal band of supporters on this forum will be swept to one side.
Here here @ In the know
But did Paddy connect the drains? Did Paddy pay all the bills the ICE group were invoiced for? So you question the accuracy of the Court judgement but then quote figures from that court judgement. Bit selective that isnt it.
I think we’ve passed the stage of finger pointing. We are where we are and portioning blaming isn’t going to change that. Let the authorities deal with any wrong doing….which they will when the time comes. All we should be thinking about is how we salvage the sorry situation we are in.
@FDNRM, you need to give up on trying to convince everyone that Ames was a victim in all this and that everything would of worked out had it not been for that pesky Irish builder. To date you’ve convinced only 1 person and you look at him when you’re shaving.
@Sid, I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. There are two sides to everything on this saga. Dont forget the Irish agenda, liquidation. And that would effect you as an investor. Are you ok with liquidation? If you are then I’m sure you will be able to look at yourself in the mirror when you have nothing and the vultures have everything for next to naff all.
“In the know” = Ralph = Newman & Paudie.
Fucking morons.
Most people are missing the point here.
ICE Group absolutely does not want liquidation. They have a massive counter claim against Harlequin. ICE Group are continuing to fight the allegations levied against them.
Should Mr. O Halloran succeed in the appeal, then the situation changes, most critically for investors.
Garreth Fatchett (wrongly) stated the following on the day the Irish Judgement was given. ” The good news for investors is that there is to be no appeal in the Irish Case”.
Since the announcement of the appeal, Mr. Fatchett has remained absolutely silent on the matter. We have however to take into context his warning to investors, albeit he has not clarified his statement, and that his the statement that RL have to tread carefully with regards to the Irish builder.
Any investor or more importantly any financier would have to look at this as being a key factor in providing any finance.
It was not Ames who sued the Irish builder but Harlequin Property SVG and Harlequin Hotels and Resorts.
The Irish appeal will be heard in about 12 months, should either side win, that’s it.
If Mr. O Halloran wins he undoubtedly will go after the assets of Harlequin Property SVG, whether they be controlled by Ames or an investor trust.
Conversely if Harlequin win, then either Mr. O Halloran will pay what has been ordered or possibly declare bankruptcy, who knows.
FDNRM mentions the drains at every turn, he fails to understand the purpose of the appeal. Indeed it was ICE Group’s contention that they were installed. Furthermore whether ICE Group paid it’s suppliers are not is wholly irrelevant to the appeal and indeed the matters at hand.
Harlequin reputedly owe millions to suppliers in the Caribbean.
But to dismiss the ongoing litigation not only between Harlequin and the ICE Group et Al, but the lawsuits taken against Harlequin and the Ames family in both the Caribbean and the UK is an act of folly on behalf of the investors, Investors have already entered into this blindly, by initially investing in Harlequin, now some are advocating that parties such as the ICE Group are to be written off as a future threat to Harlequin. To do this on the advice of Harlequin and their supporters is just another act of folly.
ICE Group have much to gain from the solvency of Harlequin. And little to gain from it’s liquidation. Civil court actions are akin to a lottery, no one can really call the outcome.
Why not just post under your true names. Not Ralph/API/Malcolm White etc. the post above is just the same cut and paste post from weeks ago. What do you suggest Jeremy, we all just sit about for the next 12 months for the Irish appeal. Yes that would be a good plan wouldn’t it. Not.
I cannot believe people actually think that someone is going to finance H why would they when if they wait a few weeks they could get it for pennies from the liquidator.
I think people need to be more careful what they are saying and implying on here no proxy is full proof
@FDNRM You really do need to read up on witness intimidation I know someone who got two years so maybe fatchett should represent you.
Comments on this forum regardless of which side they come from will do nothing to change the outcome.
That will be solely decided by lawyers, accountants and the authorities. And lest we not forget it, it is Ames who is facing potential criminal investigation.
No one is asking people to sit around for 12 months, but decisions ref the trust and Harlequin Property SVG will have to be made soon. Because in 12 months everything could still be lost.
All though with out external financing which despite what Ames is claiming, will not be forthcoming, the venture is doomed anyway.
@ S.T. FDNRM will continue with his racist and sexist remarks towards the Irish builder on this and other forums despite there being laws covering such attacks. His justification will be the Irish Court judgement and the fact that he is a victim himself of on-line bullying, so he claims.
TS et Al will continue with their attacks because they, like FDNRM have not been able to provide a coherent or rational explanation as to why the Harlequin business model has failed. Safe to say it was all the fault of the Irish builder and or a few investors who were brave enough to speak out.
To the Irish builder, you have been caught with your hands in the till, end of story.
Personally, I don’t give a shit, what I object to is your multiply IDs, and hidden agendas. You on here by your real name Padraig O’ Halloean or piss off.
You hid behind your lacky’s and didn’t even have the bottle to come to the investor meetings.
You coward at least Nikki Crozier attended the meeting you big fat Irish wimp.
@S.T. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Witness intimidation? Lol and who do you think is intimidating whom? Best laugh I’ve had for ages. Go on elaborate on your theory.
@itk. Racist and sexist comments? Breaking the law? We are touchy arnt we. Keep hiding behind your anonymous ID. Tell you what, sue me for my comments. Go on do it paddy.
Breaking the law, what did the Irish builder do with investors deposits?
Hardly Robin Hood is he?
Poster A posts a relatively coherent post. Although negative of Ames and Harlequin.
Poster B Responds, with poster A is a fucking thief who fucks fat people and lesbians.
(Good Response?)
Poster A adds more to his previous post.
Poster B Responds by knowing who poster A is and continues to call him a fucking moron, thief, lesbian lover, reminding all investors that Poster A is the Irish Builder who stole all their money.
Poster C pipes up saying that what poster A has stated has all been said before. Then poster C joins poster B in claiming to know who poster A is.
Poster D challenges poster C.
Poster C responds by stating that he is a victim of on-line bullying, and it was poster A who gave his details on line.
Poster D asks poster C to comment on Harlequin.
Poster C responds by telling poster D to sod off. He then continues to claim that everything poster A says is just lies and rubbish.
Poster C is a member of a legal site that is suing all the SIPP providers for misselling Harlequin properties. Yes Misselling. Poster C appears not to understand what this means.
Poster B pops back up saying that poster A is a lowlife Irish thief and scum bag.
Poster C responds by agreeing with poster B and quoting from a court judgement.
Poster E challenges poster C
Poster C responds by quoting from the judgement.
Poster B responds by calling the builder a cunt, fucking thief, lesbian lover etc etc etc.
Spot the Harlequin posters……
I wonder why , with several minor exceptions -all though for although/
with out for without – The alleged Irishman writes much better English
than the Englishmen? It is amazing that someone who I can barely
understand on Youtube writes so well. Something doesn’t compute!
My favorite is et Al (et al ?) Who the hell is Al ?
@Anonymous
Could be a terrorist cell? bit like the IRA
@GF nice bit of basic language there.
@STHS which poster does GF come under? Poster “g” for gutter?
@ anonymous. Bob Storey states categorically that it is the Irish builder who is posting on here, he is backed up by those other Harlequin posters who appear to be wholly unable to cobble together anything that resembles sensible or coherent argument.
But how could it be, the Irish man on the You Tube video seems about as intelligent as the great messiah himself, or could it be that the Irish guy in the video was playing to his audience, a bunch of greedy, unscrupulous agents who between them may have had an IQ possibly in the double digits.
We must not assume that the Irish Builder’s intelligence remains as low as that of the Ames family, many of their agents or indeed the senior management of Harlequin.
It would be difficult even for the Irish builder to maintain the level of ignorance and unintelligence as demonstrated by many associated with Ames for any period of time. One really does have to work hard in order to be as stupid as Ames or his wife.
Ames has ably demonstrated his ability to gather around him some of the most dysfunctional and unintelligent human beings to have ever emanated from Essex and Nuneaton.
Just one look at the likes of Bob et al.
@ Anon, no one can use the term “et al” with you as you are the same person using different IDs. Stop hiding, come out and be liberated. Or are you a closet builder?
Bob don’t you mean “Cabinet Maker”. Is that not a more common term than “Closet Builder”. Then again the Irish builder could be a “Carpenter” or a “brick layer”. Or indeed he could have a third level qualification, which would suggest he has some semblance of intelligence.
@Anon, more like a cobbler than a builder. He certainly cobbled his work together.
What was the Irish builders role in Merricks? Or Dominican Republic? What was his involvement in the Brazillian project: the one where deposits were taken on land that wasn’t even owned before the project was cancelled but the money kept! What was the Irish builders contribution to the sales process, which paid out 30% commission to agents? Was it the Irish builders idea to commingle investor monies as oppose to the standard practice of using ring fenced escrow accounts? Was it the Irish builder who chose to spend investor money on two rust bucket antique aeroplanes?
The more that I read the RL site the more doubtful it appears to me that
any sort of “trust/rescue plan” will ever gain traction. It simply gives
Ames legal immunity from SIPP borrowers plus those who sign up
for the RL plan. This greatly diminishes those who can go after Ames
directly. It might not keep Ames out of prison bunt it greatly lessens the
number of those who can. Bottom line is that Fatchett seems to be
doing pre-emptive work for Ames. It makes me wonder exactly who
it is that he represents. It looks like a court battle that could go on
forever.
Do not worry I have spoke to the SFO and the trust changes nothing:)
Do not worry about the Ames bail out group the plan is going to fail I have spoke to the SFO and the aptly named “trust” will not affect the plans of the SFO at all. It is not up to GF and other to decide what DA fate is oh dear 🙂
any argument over misappropriated funds can be easily solved ,just compare and examine contracts, invoices,qs reports and sign offs.and then a look at the audited accounts,also any local building inspectors reports if available and any minutes of meetings between contractors and clients may help.all these things help in any dispute i would say whoever is involved.also if the client provided material lets look at delivery tickets.any half decent company should be able to provide above.
“any half decent company should be able to provide above”….
Well when one is dealing with an out and out fraud it doesn’t even
equate to dealing with a 1/6000th decent company.
Yes absolutely, unless the plaintiff refuses you access to your records by getting an injunction against you and then deletes everything off your server, granted apologising for doing so. Lol
Boy this is one of the slowest train wrecks I have ever seen!
Months of delay attics and talks of a rescue plan from Heaven?
The guy has broken his contract by not delivering ….sue his ass and be done with it. You “investors” make me sick talking of a rescue plan..You deserve Ames, who is not so stupid, since he has your money.
No?
A new Anonymous –
What sort of recuse plan incorporates: SVI, BGI, D.R., Brasil and is
based in England. Jesus’ Cristo’ You might as well ask the Pope
for a solution.
@ODTPIS Of course the SFO are going to discuss their case with you.
The trust is worth jack-shit to the investors. Trouble is, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king, and Gareth is telling everyone the trust is the answer and that there is no other option.
Forgive me, but can I just clarify:
All the trust does is protect the assets in the Caribbean for investors in the UK to claim against isn’t it? Claim against under contracts that they’re going to relinquish? And there will be no returns on investments or reinstatement of investor interest payments will there? Anyone any idea what the “rescue” they speak of actually is, or has no-one thought to ask? God bless the stereotypical Harlequin investor, eh?
FDNRM – I’m totally confused regarding your opinion now – will you be subscribing to the RL trust or are you going to be looked after by Harlequin since you’ve been payed in full, have received a returned in the past, and have shown relentless loyalty to Ames and Harlequin?
FDNRM – Are you in on the trust?
Correction – I didn’t mean FDNRM has been paid in full; that is meant to read “since you’ve paid in full”.
Bob, you were telling the whole world a few months ago how the SFO had told you about Newman. You even mentioned a Joe, Joe who Bob?
Dont bother responding with some adolescent back tracking comment.
Oh beggar FDNRM is caught out again …. I couldn’t possibly comment .
I wish that Kenny Miller, a SVG citizen, would comment on all
this. He was there at the beginning and rather quickly fired when
the whole thing started to come apart………………
@Anon RU, do you just make things up out of boredom? Do you really think I would answer any of your questions.
@Anon, ok I wont.
@Dave and Joe, Caught out again? Regarding what exactly.
Not like you to be stuck for words 36/fperv
Dear Padyykins,
This is fascinating, and I must confess mildly amusing.
I have been deliberately truculent toward the Irish builder, to provoke a reaction ( from the non Irish builder who posts under many names) Would it be fair to say it worked and proved a point?
He is after one thing the collapse of Harlequin.
Regarding the SFO, clearly he has never spoken to them; they take information, but never ever give any away.
toodle pip!
Don’t get in a big big Paddy over this 😉
More lies expected in retort.
What a very odd post even by TS standards. A question was raised about whether the individual posting on here and the builder were one and the same, it appears TS now believes they are not. Care to comment FDNRM.
TS you seem a tad distracted today? Not your usual self? Busy Day perhaps? Busy long day perhaps? Bored are we?
@RLO Do you think its pervy to phone someone up and 5 minutes later publish their exact location? and directions to the police station. And you call yourself a real life observer? Real life idiot more like it.
no
…it’s pervy to stalk innocent women though, in the way you did.
I’m a little bored same old, same old. Another day another overpaid $
For the record, I do believe the Irish builder posts on here under many alias 100%
However, to be fair to him he is not as unintelligent as he appears on the youtube clip; don’t be fooled.
Many can’t write well, but speak with eloquence, many write well but as rough as a bear a**e.
Bob there you go again, justifying your stalking actions, by playing the victim card. And as predicted by others, you fail to answer any questions.
Bob would you care to re-enlighten everyone on your relationship with the SFO? You were most adamant previously on your relationship with that agency.
Can we take it TS that you have met the Irish builder?
Would you take the same line with the great messiah Ames. He too professes to be a genius? A creator, A visionary I believe he refers to himself as.
Whilst just a tad inarticulate.
Is Ames an individual who is a genius who just cant express himself? Ames should consider acquiring the same device that Professor Hawkins utilises. That way we might begin to understand the great one.
Good try Paddy.aka Ralph, API, and all the other names, too long to mention.
All I will say is they are both not a stupid as they seem.
Many a trick in the old dog yet 😉
I am not the Irish builder and I am a very poor investor thanks to all involved in screwing my investment.
This year I have taken a holiday in DR to view what we invested in my summary is Harlequin do not own half the land they claim to own in DR, Two Rivers will never happen because it is land that is protected because of the Mangroves growing there.
The two words that will never go together in my vocabulary are DA and Trust.
I have spoken to the SFO at length and asked questions about the trust and if it will affect them in any way shape or form and it will not.
I also asked them if GF could stop any legal proceedings against DA and he cannot unfortunately 🙂
I trust nobody none of them could lie straight in bed.
How did a ‘holiday maker’ gain access to the documents that back this up?
Who did you speak with at the SFO – this Joe chap 😉
expand of ‘none of them’ please.
@ Anon – reasons unknown
You are of course quite right. A charge on the land at BB would be pretty meaningless. Unless it is backed by a genuine debt (i.e. the Trust lends $10m or whatever to the landowner) It wouldn’t be hard to have a local court remove the charge at some convenient point in the future.
The only purpose of a charge is to prevent a sale of land until a court decided on the matter. The holder of the charge would have no right to usage of the land, in fact no say at all over it. The trustees will be completely powerless – a very frustrating position to be in if the hope was to exert some influence. To be fair RL have only ever said that it is better than nothing, if it is then it is only just better.
You are of course a legally trained professional in multi-jurisdictions ?
@Waae – For what its worth Anon12:11 could be a trained chimney
sweep. The man posted information of substance. I for one don’t
care what his background is. It is the message not the person that
counts.
I went to Barbados and found out H is built on an ancient Indian burial ground and Merricks is owned by a paedophile ring.
Is it any wonder you all got conned then!
Proof she says proof!
@RLO You do make me laugh. So you think making a reference to a cake stall is stalking. Now as I said before, for you to relate that comment to an individual person you would have to be either.
1)Related to the person and be aware of their movements
2)Stalking the same person.
So Jezza which one is it?
You really are just a hypocrite who set the bar pretty low when it came to stalking. And you think its ok to publish personal details on here. Live by the sword…etc etc.
Dont let that cat walk over your keyboard again will you.
@Anon 10.23 Tell you what send me your e-mail and telephone number and I will tell you all. Oh and your name. This should be quiet.
36 DFRM Let me remind you that YOU posted the details here. Don’t you remember?
@ What a Load of Bull, interesting comments.
Buccbay is built on part of a UNESCO world heritage site. During construction mummified remains of Arawak Indians were discovered and the site was documented by Archaeologists from the Government of St. Vincent.
All done above board and legal.
As for Merricks being owned by a Paedophile Ring, well now, that brings up a little bit of history. Ames started in the Caribbean with 3 other partners. There was a falling out between two sets of directors. One set of directors accused one of the other directors of being amongst other things, a paedophile.
This was never proven in court but was one of the allegations levied by Ames and what was then called MAM investments against the other director.
@RLO, it is an exercise in futility in attempting to deal with Bob, FDNRM. As previously stated all he will do is play the “I am the victim card”. He continues to claim on the one hand that most posters here are the builder, then are Mr. Newman.
He questions posters motives yet never gives an answer to a question.
He claimed in the past that the SFO gave him information pertaining to their investigations and even went so far as to suggest he knew some one in the SFO named Joe. He now refuses to make any comment on that matter yet questions other posters who have made similar claims with respect to their dealings with the SFO.
Bob also brushes aside as pure fantasy the notion that he, at some stage might be brought to account for some of his more salacious posts, even going as far as to laugh it off.
Bob like most who support Ames and Harlequin appear to live in a parallel universe. They are so far removed from reality it is not funny.
But to attempt to engage in rational debate with them is a waste of time. They respond by attacking or returning to the I am the victim speil.
I am a serving Police Officer in England and did happen to have my warrant card with me 🙂
The person at the SFO I spoke to has the initials DD I will not publish his name in full as I feel it is wrong to do so.
Also to get to the area where Two Rivers is supposed to be built was a very long journey in a 4×4 the area was very jungle and quite hostile. My Partner did say that they expected to see some long lost tribe or for Tarzan to appear
I did try to talk to DA after a meeting about this but he did not want to discuss this with us.
FDRM – you really are a waste of space here aren’t you.
You refuse to answer questions about whether you will be joining RL’s proposed Trust and prefer to stick to your pathetic, school girl bitching about the stalking and your identity disclosure. Who cares, Bob Storey? Idiot.
I know many Harlequin investors come across as dim, but at least most of them have now worked out that Ames is a liar, have admitted they were foolhardy to invest (Christ knows why a few of them are considering throwing in more money to help Ames float a little longer), accept they can kiss goodbye to their deposits, and that they will never see anything like the returns on their investments promised by Harlequin.
I find it comical that some investors are concerned they can’t complete without the guaranteed mortgages. Well, apart from the 100 or so investors with completed units at BB, NO investor should be worried about completing under the terms laid out in their contract! For a start, the majority of the units will NEVER be built, and secondly, due to the Trust and the time any development would take (following the fantasy investment) all contracts would have expired anyway!
What a long drawn out painful death this is.
@ TS, interesting that you state that Mr. Ames has a few tricks up his sleeve.
One has to wonder, where were those tricks when he was made Bankrupt not just ONCE but TWICE in the 90’s. Or was this one of his tricks.
Or what trick did he have up his sleeve when Loans Made Easy and Mortgages Made Easy failed in their primary goal, which was to make money.
Sorry I should caveat that by stating that Carol Ames made more money from franchising the brands to gullible, greedy people then SHE did from the operational side of the business which was a flop.
On that note one has to ask the question why despite owning not just one but two (subprime) lending companies were the Ames family unable to arrange mortgages for the Caribbean.
Surely owning such a business would have exposed them to many different financiers?
What trick did Ames have up his sleeve when he abandoned his investors in Thailand, laying those current troubles at the door step of Mr. Houghton his former? business partner in Thailand.
What trick did Ames have in Panama, where he sold out a development that never got built, nor on land never purchased.
What trick did Ames have up his sleeve when he sold out the Ravenswood Resort in Australia which again never got built.
So now we are being told that Ames has a few tricks up his sleeve with relevance to the Caribbean developments. One thing we can be sure of, this little trick will be of no benefit to his investors.
Looking back on it now, what you had is a bunch of greedy, unscrupulous former second hand car sales men, double glazing sales men and some former time share sales men, headed up by a pint sized, inarticulate former twice bankrupt, who along with his wife (a former employee of a swimming pool construction company) who lived in an average terraced house up to 2008 in Wickford, and their son Dan who up to 2008 lived in a small flat over a laundrette owned by his wife and her family and who worked in the procurement section of Royal Mail, all coming together to “Redefine Luxury in the Caribbean.
A company primarily funded through previously failed developments.
Promises made to naive investors promising huge returns.
Yet before a single investors unit had been completed the Ames family from 2006-2010 were able to amass a personal property portfolio of (a) properties at the 5 Star Fairmont Building on Palm Jumeriah in Dubai. (b) three properties in the 5 star Laguna Tower, Dubai. (c) Property at the Villa in Dubai. (d). A property in Brock Hill in Essex worth £1.5 million. (e) Two units bought in the Honywood business park for in excess of £1 million. (f) Two now completed properties at Buccament Bay, being the two largest properties.
In the same time frame 2006-2010 the Ames family were paid in excess of £6 million in dividends. All before a single unit was completed.
In the same period the Ames family paid out 100 million in commissions.
So yes TS, Ames has plenty of little tricks up his sleeve.
But very few of them will help him now.
It is time now to allow TS, FDNRM and all those other die hard supporters of Ames to continue their paddy bashing, Sexist and racial attacks on anyone who raises issue with Harlequin.
They will need to work fast and hard in order to push these recent posts down the line.
@RLO Details were published AFTER my details were published by Ralph. Check back if you can. I have the date, but put a bit of effort in rather than just throw accusations about. Ralph set the standards so blame your mates for setting the bar so low.
@Anon RU. And thats all you have, silly name calling. Why should I answer any of your questions. Invitation is open, e-mail/phone me with your details and name and I will answer you. Of course you can find ALL my details on here, not like your anonymous ID. And have a word with Real Life Observer about stalking. He seems to like bitching about it. Or is reading another posters comments on here a bit difficult for you.
@Anon 2.20. all that information. that looks like obsessive stalking to me.
@Anon – reasons unknown
No units have completed yet
Anon. Spoken like a true Irishman. Why are you such a coward? we all know its you, grow a pair you nonce.
@Anon 1.21. You really are quite stupid arnt you. You think that some one is going to contact me about “salacious” postings. Let me give you a bit of advice, a freebie. You see, and this might be difficult for you to believe, that there are imposters on this site. That is some one who posts with my ID but isnt really me. Are you still following, good, keep up. Therefor if anyone wanted to contact me about “salacious” posts then I could just say “not me Gov” And how would anyone prove it was me? Well they could contact BFP, who of course might be liable under the data protection act. Good luck with that and “mind how you go” LOL
@Anon RU, so you think I’ve been paid in full but you want to know if I will join the trust. Somewhat of a contradiction in those comments. Did not really give them much thought did you. LOL
Yes Bob. A coward to boot. You will deny attacking anyone on this site. ” Was not me Gov ha ha ”
Funny how you state you are not you with respect to some of the posts. But you along with your anonymous friends from Harlequin know beyond all doubt that I am the Irish builder, or is it Mr. Newman, or Wilkins Kennedy……………….
Was your name cloned on the RL site? Perhaps?
And you have not mentioned the recent contact between you and the authorities regarding the information you or indeed someone posting as you put up with respect to the SFO and Joe.
You were warned to wind your neck in with respect to claiming to be in contact with the SFO, were you not? If not who is your mate Joe you referred to in the SFO?
Or are you not the same Bob Storey who received a warning from RL about your conduct on that site?
Perhaps you are aiding and abetting Mr. Ames?
The UK data protection act does not cover Barbados. And Ames has an awful lot of enemies in Barbados. Even BFP would not consider themselves to be fans of Ames.
But please feel free to carry on.
@Anon 4.08 do you realise how stupid you look. You call me a coward, but hide behind the ID of Anon! Hypocrite. No one cloned my name on the RL site.
Again more stupidity. Recent contact with the SFO? You really have a vivid imagination. Warned to wind my neck in? Are you a part time fiction writer? No another fantasy.
I will carry on.
Carry on hiding behind your ID.
Mr. Storey, please keep up the great work. Love the reasoned counter arguments being put forward by you, Paddy Basher and others.
You have now fully convinced me and others that the trust is the last thing we want.
Again thank you for your invaluable contribution.
Dear All, I have to say that Mr. Storey and his colleagues on here and indeed the RL site are not representative of the majority of investors views or sentiments. I personally attended two meetings last week. My wife and I got to hear and see Mr. Ames in action and between the tears and nudges from Mr. Fatchett we were not impressed. We want our money back as do the majority of investors. We want nothing more to do with Mr. Ames or Harlequin.
We did feel that there was an element at the meetings who would back Harlequin to the hilt.
It felt like we were at an evangelistic healing meeting in the Bible Belt of the US at times. I was expecting Mr. Fatchett to jump up at any time, place his hands on Mr. Ames head and exorcise him of his demons. Then forgiving him and welcoming him back into the fold.
If that was not enough, sitting on a flyer offering us a £99 ppn offer at Buccament Bay was the straw that broke the camels back.
We are sick to death of the excuses, the blame, sell the assets and give us something back from the train wreck.
That’s all most investors now want.
@John de Lay, you would prefer liquidation? Why is that?
So Bob who is your friend Joe in the SFO.?And are you now denying your previous statement where you claimed the SFO told you about a complaint Mr. Newman made?
Well put Mr De Lacy, well put. Nothing seen as an asset of Harlequin
is appreciating in value. The quicker it is liquidated the better.
Not sure if any of you know but the new name for TailorMade is Cambridge May SIPP! They are still trading despite getting rid of most of their staff.
Dear Mr. Storey, I paid a deposit of £ 170,000 cash for a SPA Villa in 2009. I am now being asked to give up my contract and undertake not to pursue Mr. Ames for 3 years by which time the legal window to allow me to pursue Mr. Ames will have closed.
So if the choice is joining a trust where I have to give up all rights or keeping my contract and pursuing Ames through the courts, I will take the latter.
Mr. Ames stood up and explained that financiers were lining up to fund Harlequin. But Mr. Ames could not even produce a letter or expression of interest document.
I have letters from Harlequin going back to 2009 claiming that Harlequin were on the cusp of signing up for Finance.
There is no finance, I work in the financial services sector. Harlequin is known in the financial markets. It is known as a toxic brand. It has FCA warnings attached to it.
No legitimate financier will touch Harlequin with a barge pole. I could recoup 5-10% from a liquidator. I have been to Buccament Bay recently.
The resort is in an absolute state of disrepair and will take millions to bring up to standard. The resort has NOT been maintained. When I tried to raise this and other questions at the meetings last week I was told that there was no time left for questions because of a time over run.
My letters and calls to RL asking for sight of the report they had commissioned on Buccament Bay remain unanswered. But I have been there and I have seen the reality.
@john Lacy well If that’s your decision then fine. It’s a pity that you had to indulge in the puerile personal insults in your previous post before indulging us with your decision making process.
Bob are you for real, if indeed it is you. Mr. De Lacy did not insult you, you cretin. He made two valid points regarding you and some others. (a) You bring nothing of value to the discussions. (b) You are not representative of the majority of investors.
Always have to get the last word in Bob no matter how ridiculous it makes you. Ok who’s Joe, Bob. ? Go on. You cant answer can you cause you were warned off. All you are is a mouthy little fool.
@Anon, Mr De Lacys post was meant as sarcasm, that is obvious. Now get this straight NO ONE HAS WARNED ME OFF. Whoever you think your contacts are they are misinformed.
The other obvious observation about Bob Storey is that in most of his posts he is clearly an uneducated imbecile. But in others, he is able to construct a sentence and spell. Now, I wonder why on earth that is?
Harlequin are truly pathetic; writing responses for the monkey to type with the one finger his brain is able to operate at any one time. Or perhaps they’ve managed to teach him “copy & paste” after all these years.
@John De Lacy
What was wrong with the resort ? Any examples?
What’s happening to TailorMade? How can they just set up again?
Too much time spent in the loo can give one swamp gas fever
@Anon RU trot along, all you post are personal insults. Nothing to add, nothing of interest. Without me you obviously have no interest in life. We have had the usual, who is dictating your posts before, keep up muppet.
When was the last time you posted anything whatsoever to do with the actual investment and / or resort development? Never. You are an ignorant shit stirring Harlequin troll. Monkey boy. Everyone knows it, so you are wasting your time. Still, what else does Bob Storey have to fill his time with? Absolutely nothing. Except signing on to BFP every 4 minutes to post some pathetic school girl crap. Would be wonderful if someone one day forces your family to read your retarded contribution to this site. I think (unless the low IQ is genetic) they’d squirm with shame.
And Storey – STOP banging on about people insulting you, you retard. YOU insult people, and people insult you. Twat.
@Anon RU my wife reads your posts and it gives her a laugh too. You have just resorted to type. Now go away. I’m bored with you now. Off down the pub to discuss the merits of posters on Internet sites hiding behind false I Ds. What’s it called TROLLING. Yes that’s you.
To be honest Twat, I don’t think much of your wife at all. If you’re the best she could do, then …. pmsl! God, her life must be one miserable existence. Still at least your BFP and Broughton / Newman / O’Halloran obsession means the pair of you don’t have to talk to each other much. Sad fookers.
Boring boring boring. And you are obsessed with ME. You are an internet troll hiding behind a keyboard, no balls, no bottle, no conversational skills. Is twat the word of the year for you. Now go and watch the children’s tv program while the adults work on saving HP.
These post are all from a few people; question, don’t you think it’s become an addiction for you? Time to leave it alone?
It’s made some people ill.
Yes, Bob Storey is clearly addicted. I feel sorry for the guy. He’s so bitter and twisted. Obviously very unhappy. I don’t think the Harlequin/blogging obsession is helping him. It’s hard to feel too sorry for him though. He comes across as a very nasty and mean spirited man.
There is an operating hotel in St Lucia
There is land owned in St Lucia
There is a waterfront hotel shell in Barbados (H-Hotel)
There is a large parcel of property in Barbados (Merricks)
There is property owned in the Dominican Republic
There are commercial buidlings for sale in Baseldon
There are two airplanes parked in St Lucia
There is a burnt out Chinese junk in SVG
There is an alleged private island in the Grenadines
Certainly, even in a fire-sale, these assets must have some value.
The so-called “Trust’ does not address any of the above.
DA is a down and out con man…I am sure GF will rue the day he tried to sort this massive con out, as he will be tarred from the fallout this will create
time will pass, but Ames is deffo on borrowed time, way way too much smoke for all this to blow away (even if there is any masonic assistance…this is simply too big for anybody to assist, they will all be stepping back to avoid their fingers being burnt in the resulting fire)
The SFO will be sitting back waiting until the time is right and they are sure to be able to nail him…biggest difficulty is that the fraud was actually done outside the UK, but rest assured the noose is getting tighter and tighter as every day goes by (from people in the know)
be patient people be patient
Guess at Market values today US$$
Blu St Lucia..2.5million
Land St Lucia 11million
H Wreck Barbados 3 million
Merricks wasteland..9 million
DR Land 6 million
Basseldon buildings 1.5 million
Harlequin Planes .4 million
Chinese Junk.0
Total..about US34 million…Tops
Money taken in from “investors” about $600 million
Buccament Bay Resort Value(as is)..Max US45 million.
A fire sale will produce even less than above.
Do the math…everything says failure to me.
Where did I get these figures? Same place as Ames…stuck my finger in the air and wrote down my feelings.
FDNRM, you are doing a great job to convince us not to join the trust. You seem to be a die hard supporter of Harlequin and if investors with your attitude supports the trust, It is a NO NO from us. Thank you for convincing us to stay away, Great job and good luck with your investment.
@No Please, if your decisions on an investment are influenced by BFP then it shows you are a very unsophisticated investor who cannot make rational decisions. And your reason for supporting liquidation are?
Well goodness me, 36 pervFDM it’s nearly midnight GMT in Nuneaton and Essex and suddenly you can compose phrases and spell!
‘decisions’ was one of your ‘hard’ words and you’d never have got the letters in the right order before ‘unsophisticated’.
So who’s helping you with writing your posts tonight 36?
We can’t be arsed with your trite ‘spelling police’ jibes, so do please try and attempt to reply with something intelligent.
dear vinny
pleese ask mister ames or the solicitor wot the best way to answer this with is.
luffs& slobber Bob xxxx
Fatchett wont represent me because I am a cock. I dont care. I know I am right. I am the chosen won. I no everyone on hear. I no. I was abused on hear. I went to the police. Tick toc tick toc. You are all fools. Mr. Ames was abused.
You will all see soon. The trooth will win out. I dont care about u. U is all fools. Ames told me he will refine luxory in the Caribeen.
See i dont need help in riting a post. You canot spell. I can. You or all idiets. I no everting. The SFO and Joe tell me everyting. And NOBODY tole me not to say anyting. Do you here me. DO YOU HERE ME. GOT IT.
Hilarious!!
So choosing to put a significant amount of money into Harlequin in the first place (and seeing it through to the bitter end) qualifies someone as a sophisticated investor?
Oh yes! The other reason he knows he is sophisticated is because he has thought of an id (and cleverly allowed himself to be identified) whilst others haven’t bothered.
The major investment houses must be kicking themselves they let this genius get away.
Amazing what rubbish you ‘bloggers’ write. The end game has been decided, this is bigger than most can begin to imagine.
This goes right to the very top then filters down many levels.
I see the other site is becoming like this one and by Gareth’s so called friends how sad, soon no one will post anything useful for fear of being attacked. Poor Gareth to come home from his holiday and have to sort this crap out.
It matter not, all is in hand.
@The other site, do you consider “Fatchett does not represent me because I am an illiterate fool” and “Hatchett will not represent me..etc” , “in the sun” and “Anon RU” to be Gareth’s friends or just illiterate attack dogs? How useful are their postings?
In court yesterday Wilkins Kennedy admitted lying about Ames and HQ and made an official apology.
what a load of shit – sometimes you lot are just lunatics it never happened ……………court listings are public and baby it just wernt there
@pants on fire. So where was it? Jezza has been very quiet.
where was what – poster said court, nothing listed so didnt happen ;;;;; more lies
So how much is BB worth ? SVG can ill afford this sort of crime attack on Tourists. International Airport will only bring in more possible victims.
I am informed that a very pertinent question was raised on the RL forum by an investor who asked whether signing up to the Trust and amending his contract in favour of HP would compromise his appeal to the Financial Ombudsman Service.
RL’s reply was that it would make no difference but I wonder if that is really true.
For the FOS to award compensation doesn’t an actual loss have to be demonstrated?
The whole purpose of the Trust, I thought, was to attract finance and eventually build all the units which had been sold i.e. no loss.
By signing up to the Trust doesn’t that mean accepting a longer timeframe so unless the Caribbean HPs actually go bust somewhere down the line how will a loss be demonstrated.
Sensible and polite replies or observations welcomed.
The sooner Harlequin in all its entities is liquidated the more cash will
be available to eventually distribute. I wonder what sort of tax bill is
due for the past year for Merricks-Hhotel-St Lucia-BluHotel-D.R. and
then the biggie Buccament Bay. Each day just diminishes the value of
these properties. What kind of hangar/parking fee on the two airplanes
amount to. Time to get out and fold your hand.
Harlequin and Tust just don`t sound right together.
Trust
I see Erica Fatpot is back on this blog!
I see Erica Fatpot is back on this blog!
I see Erica Fatpot is back on this blog!
if interest payments are contracted to be paid and if that contract states a date when a return will be shown against that investment will a loss have occurred if the above cease or do not take place? also if a refund as contracted is asked for and for whatever reason does not take place is that a loss? any sensible thoughts?
Yes really helpful to the “trust” well done lets all call the fat one. Yawn Yawn
@clod – Your reasoning is what the Harlequinettes can’t seem
to grasp.
just a word on contracts.you can have the most legally watertight document known to man but unless both sides trust and respect each other it will never work ,just talk to people who do construction for a living ,im talking about firms that undertake projects and complete on time and in budget.in short people that know what they are doing
The Investor Trust pack will get overwhelming support as it is the only real option out there other than liquidation.
The Pack is in the post to investors. The die is cast.
I doubt RL would have bothered if they did not see something in it.
I doubt Bob from PHIG would have sought to muscle in without there being something in it.
Anyone seeing an average investor would have concluded that most people will have a punt to save their money.
The Irish Builder situation is irrelevant until the Appeal is heard. Even then it may prove a non event.
Harlequin is in a real mess. A true pickle. However, investors are the losers, not Ames. Hence they will respond logically and support the trust.
All read the agreed joint statement yet??????…..defamation case over
“He did not intend to suggest that the business operated by harlequin was in fact a fraudulent scheme” Thanks for that Jezza.
FDNRM what does Wilkin Kenedy say in the statement. And when does Ames get the 30 million.
Ames, Wilkins Kennedy and Mr. Newman reach an agreement on the defamation case.
Ames told investors that Wilkins Kennedy were going to have to pay 30 million and were going to close.
Tonight we have a joint statement.
Wilkins Kennedy deny any wrong doing. Mr. Newman says he got it wrong and the settlement is a secret.
Do we look that stupid. How much of our money has Ames spent on this? Like the accounts we now will not be told how much Ames got, so he is free to pocket this money, yet Fatchett tells us Ames is broke.
Well Fatchett he aint, Ames told us he was getting 30 million, I think we as investors need to now demand from Ames how much he got paid.
@DWRLTS. I think you are confusing the two cases. The main case against WK will be next year I believe.
FDNRM, sorry today’s announcement is it ,no trial anywhere ever .everyone goes back to their life case closed.
My bet is 500k so it’s goodnight from Dave and goodnight from Carol .
How much of that should the lawyers get?
What statement? Is there a link for it please?
This is the first part of the battle. The main event is next year.
Professional negligence claim and just where will our visionary get the fees from to take this case. Cos it ain’t coming from this investor
Next year will be no win no fee.
Hats off to Harlequin. I do not normally give them credit, but this may well be a stroke of genius. Get rid of the case that could have derailed them. The defamation case. Then go for the professional negligence claim. OUCH, bet Wilkins Kennedy are sorry now they did their deal with Ames.
And over on the RL site it appears that RL are advocating and fully supportive of this action.
@ Ouch – amazing to me only one post on the RL site after
almost an hour. And that was from RL itself. Could there be
maybe just a bit of censorship going on?
Well we will soon know everything DA has promised transparency in the meetings DA did say 40/50 Million that should put everything back on track we will not have to pay the £200 to GF now will we?
Will this be the end of the SFO enquiry I wonder?
Does anyone really believe a word DA says? Incredible!
You did not see DA in the meetings are you trying to say that when he was crying it was crocodile tears?
I thought it was lovely that GF helped DA when he was overcome with emotion they were like brothers
You need to see the bright side we are all working together and DA has a pot of gold for us “ALL” and maybe if some people cannot see the vision they can have a refund and the rest of us can carry on and make loads of money
One thing is now certain, those in power at WK are going to have many sleepless nights.
But is this a coup by Ames or an act of folly. Could Ames be pushing his luck? Some one’s head will most definitely roll for this in WK.
Talk about walking blindly into a trap.
But all said, this chapter has a very long way to run. None of this will affect the SFO investigation, what it might do however is drag WK into that particular fray.
Lest we not forget, Mr. Fatchett has pointed out that some 60% of the properties were miss sold.
The RL site is rather quiet. Aside from the apparent support of RL for litigation against WK.
However RL have a problem with the SIPP claims, all investors are being asked to join a trust before RL will proceed with claims against the FSCS.
But in joining a trust, the claimants will find it difficult if not impossible to demonstrate demonstrable loss. And if they can’t, then sorry but there will be no redress via this route.
And Fatchett knew or should have known this. Is this the reason RL are keen to support an action against Wilkins Kennedy for professional negligence.?
This would of course get Fatchett off the hook on the SIPP problem.
However does it get Ames off the hook? Just because Newman appears to have retracted his Harlecon comments in a deal with Ames, was this done on commercial grounds? Was a proverbial gun put to his head? Or was this genuine remorse on his part?
Given that FDNRM claims that Newman made a number of reports to the SFO, and Ames himself has claimed that the reports to the SFO emanated from Newman, it will be interesting to see whether the SFO now drop their investigations into Harlequin and Ames. And whether they take action against Newman.
If within the next week or so the SFO do not take any definitive action, one will have to assume that the deal struck today was struck as a result of commercial considerations as opposed to the truth winning out.
Ouch – you do not understand damage calculations.
The calculation puts aims to put you back in the position you would have been if not for the negligent act.
So you get Capital plus interest less value of investment. Regulator valued SIPP investments at £1. So you would need to deduct £1.
Genuine remorse – don’t be silly. This was a deal plain and simple.
SFO – they will continue as before collecting evidence etc.
For now investors have one real consideration which is to back HP (not Ames) and the trust or not.
As an aside, I thought DA and GF worked well together.
GF was supportive like a keen nephew would be to his special uncle.
You have to give them credit as they stood up to be counted, which is less than could be said for our Irish mate, Erica Broughton, WK or Newman.
The reality is that investor are keen to save their investment, not Ames. That is a crucial difference.
Let us all bash all the people who tried to help us!
If it was not for the likes of Jeremy Newman we would not now even know what Dave Ames was up to would we?
There is no denying that Dave Ames has spent ALL our money nilly willy
Hand up all those who would invest now knowing what you do because of this one mans brave stand?
It is obvious a deal had to be done to stop ALL the evidence coming out but it will still come out eventually Dave Ames will not be able to silence the SFO
The truth always comes out in the end 🙂
Where I think the SFO will be in a sticky situation is that if the original complaint came from Newman, and now Newman states “He did not intend to suggest that the business operated by harlequin was in fact a fraudulent scheme” then what was the basis of the complaint to the SFO. If the SFO continue and prosecute and loose then they will get sued for mega $. If they drop the case then they could equally get sued for destroying HP business through bad publicity.
My bet is that WK will now try and settle the other case before it comes to court.
@UTBSO, you think these people were helping us? They were doing it for their own greed. You think Newman, who was implicated in the Irish court case was doing this because he was a knight in shinning armour? Get real, it was greed and part of a fraud. Fraud of YOUR investment.
@FDNRM, I do not believe that Jeremy Newman took 400 million pounds from US that was your mate Dave Ames and anyone giving him more money without knowing exactly what happened to that money is pretty stupid.
This is like marrying the same woman twice unless we know where it went wrong the same mistakes are going to be repeated so lets not just brush all of your mates problems under the very expensive carpet that WE paid for!
@UTBSO. Well dont give him any more money, thats your choice. You want liquidation then?
Not necessarily I want answers and we never get them do we.
Jeremy Newman weather you like it or not did help highlight problems with Harlequin, even you have to admit that there are problems? do you wonder were all our money went?
one simple question…how can you sell a building(which you dont ever build) on land you dont own and then “lose” the money you have taken as deposits and it not be a fraud…and we are talking a serious amount of money here it has got to be fraud 100%
The Irish build cant be blamed for this or WK or anybody but the crook Ames
I suppose it’s like being mugged in the street, then upon hearing that the mugger himself got mugged some time later, you get really angry at the second mugger and blame him for everything because it must have been some of your money that was taken by the second mugger. Nowt so queer as folk!
@ FDNRM would you say that yesterdays release will be sufficient to allow the SFO to now terminate their investigations into Harlequin.
And would you not agree, that yesterdays settlement should be made known to investors. Surely some of this money could now be used to pay for the valuations.
When is the main trial against Wilkins Kennedy due to commence?
http://www.lovemoney.com/blogs/scams-and-rip-offs/scams/23043/sipp-trustees-are-exposing-your-pension-to-scams?source=1000485
Quote from the Trust Pack,
Harlequin is an unregulated investment and is therefore not afforded protection under the financial services & markets act 2000. Therefore, if Harlequin were to collapse then all investments would not be covered by the statutory scheme and would not, therefore, be automatically compensated.
We are going to need to review whether any common law or statutory duties have been breached in the provision of advice relating to this process. If so, then redress may be available to you. End of quote.
I would of thought that this process would of been carried out before issuing Statutory demands and informing everyone in their earlier meetings to go after the IFAs. I think this has been said to scare people into joining the trust
FYI, I note someone did a valuation earlier of various assets. GEneral feeling in real estate circles is the land HP own at Marquis would go for US$4m. The planes are in Antigua – they spent fortunes on those, and they were not suitable for what was being proposed they be used for. The pilots being paid ended up carrying bags at Blu as they had nothing to do, until they had enough and left. BLu is probably about US$2.5m as suggested, perhaps a little more, nothing like the US$6m or so HP overpaid for it, The acts of wastage by Ames are astonishing across the Caribbean. You absolutely do not want him anywhere near any business, whether you think he is a crook behind a massive scam or not. He most obviously is a crook, but if people do not want to see that, then at least see that with him involved in anything going forward you can expect more absurd decisions. Interesting also to see how all the proposals and discussions are about legal strategies, which is fair enough, but none about the business that is supposed to bail investors out. BB loses bucket loads of money, none of the other proposed developments make any sense. What exactly is being rescued?
@OUCH, I dont know how the SFO work or their mindset. However as it was Newman who first went to the SFO, on 3 occasions I believe, and as he has now uttered the words printed above, then I guess the SFO would be considering their position. But who knows. Especially as Newman would have been one of their witnesses in a fraud case.
As to the terms of the settlement, I believe it was WK who approached DA first for arbitration and the WK terms of that arbitration could have been a confidentiality clause. If that is the case then DA can do nothing about it.
I was interested to see that MacDonald was at the arbitration. I dont quite understand his involvement in the Harlecon site. Perhaps he would care to comment?
@FDNRM, Can I ask you how you know who were at the meeting?
It was on the announcement by HP
Sorry my mistake, I mis quoted the release, it did not say who was at the meeting, only who the claim was against. Just to clarify.
Will you please post the email up on Gareth Fatchett’s website I did not get it
Curious as to why anyone would listen to Robert Storey who is clearly on the payroll of HP in some format and was only one getting paid a rental return. Expect the usual reply lacking all substance that he gives everyone. Also does it not appear odd to anyone that Ames lured you all in with ridiculous lies during sales process, wasted all your money and breached all your contracts, and yet the investor lawyer is cosying up to Ames and working with him and protecting him? It does not seem right and think investors are once again being led up garden path. You have clearly been conned, what has happened is not legal and what continues to happen in terms of breaching of contracts is not legal – partnering up with the perpetrator of all of this is madness.
I do agree with you Gareth does seem to be too close to Dave I sometimes wonder who Gareth is working for?
I cannot afford the trust and do not want to get something for nothing so if I do nothing I will be classed as hostile, where would that then leave me if they get the 75% needed for the trust? could I still then start proceedings against Harlequin? or am I then f cked? any advice I am not sure what to do?
@Anon 2.29. Ha ha wrong on everything. Sign of panic when the personal attacks start. Anything I have posted today which is incorrect?
@Fdmr,36, Bob..have you got your title yet? Lol, Ha Ha , Yawn, Tick Tock…
Interesting how drastically room rates have fallen at BB…Late November 2013 from $674 per night..December..Xmas week…$880!!
These are about 50% less than quoted a few months ago….and that is the peak Holiday season.
Garreth Fatchett contacted a number of individuals on Friday morning and clearly stated to them who was in attendance at the very long meetings. So FDNRM was indeed correct.
Garreth Fatchet has since asked those same individuals not to divulge the information but unfortunately by that time the horse had bolted from the stable.
Whats rather worrying for all investors now is that redress looks like it is not an option.
Garreth Fatchet stated he had Stat Demands, what happened these, they were never enforced.
Garret Fatchet stated that he had commissioned a report on the condition of Buccament Bay, this has never been released.
Paul Walton a contributor to this site carried out the report, so maybe he can shed light as to why it has not been made public. Paul Walton has been a very strong advocate of the SIPP redress route, can he now offer investors his views on redress given the information contained in the trust pack.
Most investors have NOT received the press release from Harlequin. Why not?
It seems that the whole mess is falling apart rapidly. We now have Garreth Fatchet endorsing legal action against Wilkins Kennedy and indeed asking investors to support such an action. That action has nothing to do with us investors so now quite possibly we will be asked to fork out to support this action.
And Garreth Fatchet claims he is working for investors and not Ames or Harlequin.
Well sorry, I for one dont buy this any more.
@Anon 3.21 what’s it got to do with you? Lol, ha ha, tick tock BORIING
@Perplexed This is exactly why I worry!
Why is it some people seem to be in a inner circle of trust?
What happened to openness and transparency?
Their are certain individuals on Gareth’s forum that know more than others and say things like wait and see over the trust and talk about knowing the contents before all of us why is this?
We gave Harlequin our money to build us a cabana so how can they spend our money on all these legal actions?
@UTBSO Its because certain investors are very close to fatchett and he runs off at the mouth to them .
btw – the pizza was disgusting fdnrm
It’s all on a need to know basis, and you perplexed, don’t need to know.
Upon reflection Newman has been dropped in it by WK and the Irish builder?
Need to know basis?. So what about transparency? Is there something you are not telling us. Will Harlequin survive?
Very odd release. Newman has not asserted in these proceedings that Harlequin operated a fraudulent scheme. I recall the whole point was that the Ames family were operating a ponzi scheme.
There is a distinct difference between Ames and Harlequin.
The wording is most bizarre. On reflection the wording really makes no sense.
Maybe when Dave Ames said he would get 30, 40, or 50 million he will?
The Irish builder got a poke in the eye and lost his case…..
Lot’s of bull sh*t from him, but always jam tomorrow, never any substance to his long droning posts.
Come on Paddy, lets have something interesting..;)
he wont never any proof
The only bullshit is coming from Fatchett and Ames. How much did Ames get?
Oh yeah covered by an NDA. Will Fatchett still maintain that Ames cant pay for a valuation?
The agreement cant have been worth that much to Ames seeing that the Irish builder is being brought back into the discussion.
If above board and on the level, the way RL are going about getting the Trust off the ground is so, so, strange.
I’m supposed to cough up £200 + VAT if I’m in favour but if there aren’t enough in favour then the Trust doesn’t happen and I don’t get my money back. They could so easily have asked for expressions of interest from investors before taking any money.
Someone will cop a load of money, hundreds of thousands maybe, (500 investors in favour = £100K) and it could be 10 times that and still not be enough if there are, as alleged, 9000 contracts out there.
Is that the scent of ripe, ready to be plucked again, gullible investors they think they can smell. Well not this one, not this time!
Investors in this scam continue to be the most gullible easy targets known to man. Ames criminally defrauded you, and yet still you listen to him, and a lawyer who is clearly working with him. The money is gone, and the businesses are nonsense even if the money could be found. Bizarre.
Anon 6:47 – You truly raise more questions than have been answered.
UTBSO – are you paranoid? What investors are close to Gareth and if indeed there are any, isn’t this normal and nothing sinister?
Congratulations to Dave Ames and Harlequin for putting Jeremy Newman in his place.Two down & one to go.
I have taken outside professional advice & will be backing the trust 100%.its a case of sink or swim to dry land.nobody is going to try & destroy my investment I mean No BODY.
Wow Im sorry but those pesky police wont give up. But dont worry just sign away your contracts to me and everything will be just dandy. Incidently, WOW you did pick up your brown envelope, didnt you.? I left one for you and one for Garreth.
Good man. You know we must keep spreading the bullshit.
Anonymous
November 2, 2013 at 6:47 pm
RL are above board and on the level, I can understand your cautious approach, but you have little other logical choice.
@Dave Ameless
How many names do you have now Paddy? Don’t you get confused 😉
Still waiting for you alternative options!
WOW – dry land? Would that be being part of a massive loss making business with over $1bn in liabilities? Is there really not a business person amongst the investors? Learn when you have been had and get what you can. Liquidation is not such a bad thing in this case. Has GF actually shown a business plan that demonstrates how exactly you will get your returns via the “trust”?
Proof proof Paddy!
You have become boring now, what’s up Erica not talking to you?
Shut up Bob you horrible man, I have not spoken to him he is not my friend.
You are in this so deep you will be in trouble when the authorities get all your posts. The truth will come out and you will be shown to have took money to post on here and your 10% return will all have to be paid back. Ha bet you never paid tax on it did you ??? that illigal
I have one name and it aint Paddy or anything near it. But I suppose a question that should be asked, now that Ames and his merry band of loyal minions continue to crow from the roof tops, why not perhaps restart the development work. Ames claims he has won all the cases.
Surely he can start selling again. Afterall it appears,well at least according to Ames and the his band of merry servants that Ames is vindicated.
Given Fatshits latest revelation that redress will be next to near impossible, why dont you guys carry on flogging overseas properties.
Oh yeah, there is still the little matter of the SFO investigation. Oh yeah the little release that Ames has for some reason only circulated to a handfull of investors does not state that Mr. Newman wronged the Ames family. Harlequin were mentioned but not the Ames family.
Dave aimless.you are obviously not an investor.Why don’t you bog off? Your appeal is going nowhere.your rude reply shows what a low life pathetic creature you are.stop your pathetic rants.
It would be highly ironic if the Crozier group is able to legally attach whatever
“actual monetary” award DA received in the recent agreement. Don’t
they have a right to demand to know the amount?
The recent release from Harlequin is very odd. We had Ames recently telling us that he was expecting a pay out in the region of 50 million. Now he cant tell his investors how much of their money he has recouped.
FDNRM lets the cat out of the bag, then apologises. Then we have FDNRM stating that the meeting with Wilkins Kennedy was at the instigation of Wilkins Kennedy as was the NDA, but as per usual fails to back up his claims. Why would Ames want to settle with Wilkins Kennedy when he had a slam dunk case. And given the joint statement where WK stated adamantly that they had absolutely nothing to do with the defamation case, why would they pay anything to Ames.
Indeed Ames may have been advised to pay some of the WK costs. Who knows. ?
FDNRM exposed a number of investigating officers on this site and was duly reprimanded for doing so. FDNRM caused an issue when he stated he was friendly with one of the investigating officers a guy called Joe.
We have the usual Paddy attacks, again anyone who questions Harlequin is attacked. FDNRM is an absolute hoot. His card has been marked. His recent revelation that he will claim that any salacious posts which will be attributed to him in the future will not be pinned on him because he will deny it shows just what an absolute coward he is.
It might be time that he clearly identifies which are his posts and which are not.
The Paddy attacks however are interesting, Ames has clearly stated that the Irish builder is toast, so why the absolute infatuation by Ames’s most loyal supporters on this and the RL site?
It appears to anyone not directly connected to events that The Irish Builder is most definitely a major worry for Ames.
But I suppose most telling of all, the SFO/Essex Police investigation continues.
I am sure FDNRM will update us all on the investigation over the next days and weeks. Afterall he is connected to some of the case officers connected to the case or so he claims. We just had him today stating that Mr. Newman made at least 3 complaints to the authorities.
FDNRM’s continued revelations as to potential witnesses in a criminal case is rather worrying and as alluded to in the past does indeed fall under the crime of potential witness intimidation.
By just giving details of one witness in any criminal investigation is seen as witness intimidation. FDNRM’s actions might cause other potential witnesses not to come forward and this can also be seen as attempting to pervert the course of justice.
All in all very serious allegations indeed.
everyone all tied up in legal gymnastics and forgetting the core business of the company at the centre of this web of endless warnings, investigations,re=organizations litigation administration claim counter claim ,not to mention the web site warfare..I believe that business is property development.maybe more time developing property and less developing all these diversions may get something done towards that end ,What about a ceremonial laying of the first brick of the year to get the promised re commencement of construction going I would supervise for free .
@ Anonymous 8.56 pm You have made a very valid point. Ames will as you have said have to declare this UK asset.
One has to wonder how Ames will deal with this?
Wow, I am an investor and I find the arguments being put forward by the anti Ames Harlequin camps to be quiet compelling. I have yet to hear any thing that resembles reasoned argument from the pro Ames Harlequin camp. Ames was responsible for our money and he failed in his responsibilities. Harlequin has no money and none will be forthcoming unless and until the criminal investigations into Ames Harlequin are concluded.
I for one will not be joining a trust in which I have to give up all rights and I whilst I was a client of RL I am now as a result of obtaining the trust pack seeking independent legal advice. I am not alone in this and have been contacted by a good number of other investors who are all seeking independent advice.
For months now RL have given advice with respect to our SIPP claims which since obtaining the trust pack has turned out to be, sorry but only one word describes the advice “FALSE”.
I and I know others are also contemplating an action against RL for wrongful advice on the matter.
I have had enough of the promises and what is now wholly apparent to me a delaying tactic on the part of RL. I wrote a letter today to the SFO, Birmingham Police, Action Fraud and the SRA and included both the trust pack and all communication I received from RL over the past 8 months. I have included the numerous screen shots from their website.
A few months ago I was informed by RL that they had succeeded in obtaining a refund for their first bunch of clients known as the Hartland group. I discovered on Thursday that this information was not true.
RL wrote to me stating that they had stat demands issued for the Dom Republic. This was untrue.
RL have failed me as one of their clients. There is no more I can say on this matter.
Bobby – It was just announced that American Airlines is suspending
it JFK -BGI flights 14 Jan. It really doesn’t auger well for SVG ever
getting anything. As taps says – “day is done, all is quiet….”
@cold light of day – with respect, I would suggest that “I believe that business is property development” is wrong. The core business is surely operating resort hotels, the investment is indeed in property development, but unless the results of that investment, ie the resorts, operate profitably then the entire business cannot succeed. This might seem like semantics, but I believe that it is crucial as it is the central to the entire operation and the problems arising from the inability of HP to carry out their aims. I have yet to see any evidence at all that there was a demand on the scale required to justify the product that HP were intending to produce. Fractional ownership of developments has been used very successfully, notably at Cap Maison in St Lucia, but the success of that project was entirely down to the competence and reputation of the Gobat family who were behind it and their full understanding of the product and demand for it that they were producing.
The HP product conflates construction and operation and investors funds have been co-mingled between development, operation, marketing and all other areas requiring funding so that it is impossible to to now untangle the mess and make any kind of judgement on what has been spent wisely and what has been simply wasted. With a previously apparently bottomless money pit available to fund the running of the only open resorts surely there can be no way of knowing how or if those resorts can ever be profitable. Without that knowledge how can any proposal to restructure the business be credible?
The Crozier bunch won’t be paid out; that’s going full term and will cost them a fortune.
Seriously are we to believe that if everyone joins the trust finance will then follow? In the present climate? With the SFO still investigating? behave!
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Proof !
Typical responses by the pro Harlequin camp. Utterly meaningless.
It’s worth noting the latest on BFP on tourism. AA are discontinuing their direct flights from New York. Tourism is in massive decline and we have an ignorant illiterate twice bankrupt failed hotelier embroiled in litigation all over the place claiming that he will redefine luxury in the Caribbean.
Lest we not forget this. Ames has failed again. Yes he has. Hence the need for a “RESCUE” as referred to by RL.
Ames has failed yet Fatchett wants us to give up all our rights, for what? To assist the Ames family.
The core business of Harlequin is litigation. Using OUR money. Ames had nothing prior to Harlequin. Who has benefited from Harlequin? Yes only the Ames family, the management team in Harlequin, the agents and the solicitors. But none of us have.
WAKE UP EVERYBODY. Its time to let it go.
Well said anon @ 10.22, and well put – “ignorant illiterate twice bankrupt failed hotelier embroiled in litigation all over the place” You can add liar to that description – proven lies still available on youtube, proven crookedness in Thailand and everywhere he has been. All he knows is fraud – he knows more about fraud than how to put together a coherent sentence.
@Anon 9.02. Do you write children’s books at all. Your post of 9.02 was a great work of fiction. Let me pick you up on one of your inane stupid ideas regarding witness intimidation. As I have been interviewed by the SFO then I am a potential witness. Now it you really want to discuss this in more detail then feel free to e mail or call me. I can give you plenty of instances of witness intimidation. The rest of your post is pure fantasy. Warned for exposing officers of the SFO? What constitutes a ” number”? You couldn’t make it up. Except you do. All lies and more lies.
@worried investor. Give me a call and you can have my UTR if you are that worried. Does your post constitute witness intimidation I wonder.
Bob , what an idiot you are!
The SFO is a prosecuting agency. They prosecute serious fraud offences. So in that context I must ask the following question.
Why would an individual, Bob Storey,
who extols the virtues of Harlequin,
who apparently was one of the few investors in Harlequin who ever received a return,
a gentleman who goes to extreme lengths to support Ames and Harlequin,
who attacks any negative sentiment towards Harlequin and Ames on an almost constant basis,
and who attacks, gives details of other witnesses that could only be known to the investigating authorities and goes to extreme lengths to discredit who he claims to be witnesses for the prosecution, claim to be a witness to an organisation who’s primary role is to prosecute serious fraud.
The SFO do not cold call potential witnesses, they wait for witnesses to come forward. So one must assume that Bob Storey if he is to be believed approached the SFO.
So why did Bob Storey contact the SFO. He apparently is very happy with his situation, and as stated defends Ames and Harlequin to the hilt.
So was he sent in by Harlequin to claim that all was good within the Harlequin camp?. Was he sent in by Harlequin to discredit genuine witnesses?.
His behaviour on this and the RL site would certainly suggest his intentions were highly suspect.
Given that the SFO are a prosecuting agency, unless Bob Storey has a genuine complaint, then sadly the prosecuting agencies will have no use for him as a witness.
Ames’s defence team would be the ones to benefit from Bob Storey’s as a witness.
It would be what we would expect from Ames, school a witness in an attempt to scupper a prosecution. Sadly it is a very foolish practice to engage in, if indeed that is what Mr. Storey is doing and the legal consequences for Mr. Storey would be quite severe.
Then again the other plausible reason for Mr Storey’s behaviour is that he is just plain mad. Or maybe an individual with low esteem , possibly someone who lives a fantasy world through an I Pad. Someone who is lonely and does not get the attention he craves in the real world and obtains satisfaction from engaging with anonymous posters on anonymous blog sites.
If this is the case as outlined above then Bob Storey needs proper physciatric help and care and possibly medication.
When Mr. Fatchett met him, when Mr. Bob Storey went to great lengths to demonstrate that he was indeed receiving a return, Mr. Fatchett is on record as commenting that Mr. Bob Storey was an odd character being slightly disheveled and not what Mr. Fatchett was expecting.
Whatever the reason behind Mr. Fatchett’s actions they are highly questionable.
Correction I should have stated Mr. Storey’s motives are questionable as indeed are Mr. Fatchett’s.
Bob Storey is a Harlequin stooge. He has never presented an argument, coherent or otherwise, that outlines how the Harlequin business makes any sense and can recover, nor how it got to where it is and why the world should not see Ames as a scam artist, and that in fact the misrepresentation was not misrepresentation. He only makes irrelevant comments about an Irish builder. His only relevance is to highlight the lengths Harlequin go to hide/mask/deflect from their fraud, and it is hoped the SFO and other authorities take note of that. It has been their modus operandi since 2005.
tvfm pleasant. yes i agree ,just looking at it with my construction hat on.had a life time wearing it and old habits etc.
It’s time Ames distanced himself from the lunatic support fringe that is Bob Storey .This man has done more to distract from the trust than he has to promote it.
IMHO an agreement was reached between Wk Ames and JN to avoid wasting more investor money on legal actions for all sides , I also disagree with TS that Ames will take other claims in the UK to the bitter end , with what Gareth has achieved it would be puerile for Ames to continue all legal actions here as this would for certain discourage outside investment which is what is needed if the investors are to have any return. Gareth has done a brilliant job lets hope Ames sees his chance to regulate his position , give us the best chance of a financial return, pay who he needs to pay, get rid of the SFO and let us all move forward before this collapses in and we lose out forever
@Anon 12.25
“The SFO do not cold call potential witnesses, they wait for witnesses to come forward. So one must assume that Bob Storey if he is to be believed approached the SFO”
WRONG. as is the rest of you rambling in your post of 12.25. You obviously do not have the intelligence to check back to my earlier posts detailing the chain of events which made the reasons why I was contacted very clear.
@GG,
Do you really think that anyone can just “get rid of the SFO”
If the SFO have been given documents and evidence from WK and Jeremy Newman then the SFO can and will still use that evidence although it might suit a lot of people if this was to just go away it is not going to happen the only way the SFO will go away is if nothing untoward as gone on, One can only imagine what would happen if the SFO walked away and several months later everything went pear shaped and We as investors lost everything we would not even have our original contracts and could not sue anyone for three years and the new financiers and the Ames family got everything!
We cannot just push ahead without knowing what has gone before it is like trying to rewrite history this is not a game of monopoly to us this is our lives!
UTBSO-I am sorry you feel that way , I WASNT TRYING TO BE OFFENSIVE .My view is if the SFO remain involved in Harlequin we will not get the external finance now needed to cover the project – seriously would you give money to a company under investigation???
We will never know the truth regarding where the money went but its gone .I do not agree with the trust in everything especially the no suing Ames for three years but I think this is what meant by “the best of a bad job.”
Maybe there is a chance this clause could be amended , it would certainly ensure things progressed quicker.
I would not now give any more money to Harlequin unless they show some sort of books I think we all need to know where at least some of our money has gone.
I remember someone saying on here once that, If they cannot touch their pension until pension age, how can it be that DA can and did and spent it on all sorts and not what it was entrusted to him to do with. I think that that is a very valid point.
How many people do you know who are booking Caribbean holidays in the next Twelve months Two years? Six or Seven years ago we used to did we not I rest my case. Build it and they will come! All we are left with is a field of dreams sadly
“Build it and they will come”
Oh no they won’t. It was the wrong type of resort in the wrong place. Ames couldn’t even choose a beach with white sand and had to spend a fortune importing it at BB. FFS!
I am sorry UTBSO you have been done over. It’s a huge Ponzi.
@Eddie, Are you not scared that by saying it is a PONZI that Harlequin using OUR money will come after you?
It seems to me that they are picking people of one by one?
Who is next I wonder?
I think DA would not know what to do with his time if he was not arguing with someone, what’s the saying Cause a argument in a empty room that one!
One small but important point of order.
Harlequin Property is not covered by the FSCS. This is stated in the RL letter. This is quite correct.
However, the “activity” under the FSMA 2000 is regulated. That is where the liability line is created. That is the line RL are following.
The poor poster earlier clearly misunderstood this and then went off on a rant.
No, UTSS I am not scared of that scumbag!
Just think yourself lucky that if you lose everything you have social security and housing benefit to fall back on paid for with OUR money (taxpayers), unlike the people who got shafted in the Caribbean who have nothing.
Love your name/s BTW!
@EL2 of course you are not scared of anyone. Being a keyboard warrior hiding behind your ID you can say anything you like. Does it occur to you that investors who might loose everything are taxpayers also so its not just YOUR money?
Let me remind you 36 that we the taxpayers are paying YOUR Job Seekers Allowance while you post rubbish here day after day.
Hi, I was sent a joint release on Friday from Harlequin about the defamation case. Then this morning I received a call from Harlequin telling me not asking me to ignore the joint release and not speak to anyone about it or to send it to anyone as I would be in breach of a court order. Am I in trouble here? Because I have forwarded it on to many people.
no . of course not ……no Tomlin order no secrecy no agreement ames jumped the gun.
its already public so he is screwed. THE OTHERS COULD NOW SUE HIM AGAIN.
Oh dear Lizzard, and you think I get job seekers allowance. And what was the basis of that little gem of rubbish. You do really need to check the accuracy of your ridiculous statements. Just keep making it up as you go along.
@fdnrm “lose” and “loose” mean different things . Spellcheck does not correct for ignorance.
Odd behaviour. Investors are demonstrating why they got turned over in the first place. Rather argue than be constructive.
Paddy’s Dream is coming …
And being Anonymous does not hide stupidity.
So FDNRM what about the defamation settlement now. What are your views on this, given that the settlement has now been broken.
Who says the settlement has been broken? Anonymous 1? And who is Anonymous 1? HP could have sent an e-mail out to its data base but chose to call Anonymous 1. Believe what you like.
Bob the agreement has been broken. But you would not understand why.
But back to your relationship with the SFO. So not only are you one of the few if only person to receive a return. You are one of a few if only potential witness to have been approached by the SFO. Weird given that you have no issue with Harlequin or Ames.
So Joe told you all about their investigation.? So who is Joe, you previously claimed he was a friend who works in the SFO. So cmon now Bob, what is your relationship with the SFO. ?
@Anon,give me a call or an e-mail and I will tell you all. In your own name of course. In fact explain why the agreement has been broken. Tell us all.
See lawmakers post on the agreement Bob, its self explanatory. Now why do you wish to respond privately on the issue of the SFO when it has been you who has been most voiciferous on the issue.
Who is Joe, Bob?. You have stated he is a friend of yours. This is a serious issue. You get chosen by the SFO, you support Ames and Harlequin. You talk about other witnesses. You were warned off. You have not mentioned Mr. Newman since the agreement. Were you warned off here too.
@Anon, you need help, and quickly. I HAVE NOT BEEN WARNED OFF. Do you understand that statement? As you obviously cannot read then go to my post of Nov 1st 8.07. Who do you think Jezza is? No stop asking such stupid questions and making such inane comments. You are an idiot.
Ah Bob. No need to shout. We know you were warned off. But that is incidental. Just explain the relationship you have with Joe and the SFO. As you appear to have been chosen by them.
FDNRM …. Master of stupidity and ignorance.a perfect tool for DA.
@Anon, why hide behind the Anon ID? If you have so much information why not share it with the whole world.
Where is your proof I was warned off?
Why do you think I have been chosen by the SFO?
Do you now understand that I made a comment about JN after the press release from DA?
Why do you keep making up your stupid lies?
In fact, why are you on here?
@ Anon.
As per your usual crap you offer no alternative. Regarding the ones who benefited what about the 30 million USD you had for your rug munching wife?
Who many ID’s can the Irish Builder have? Truly bizarre.
Paddy could you explain what it is you are trying to achieve?
You seem a little upset that Ames has had another win, this is coming over in your frantic aggressive posts.
Do you need to speak to someone over your little Paddy’s 😉
Don’t tell Paddy you have given all you info to the SFO and Ames will be off to jail.
Full of waffle you are.
Lost to Ames! No wonder you are angry.
Anonymous
November 2, 2013 at 9:41 pm
I don’t believe that for one moment, you would’t be passing information to the Irish Builder would you 😉
You write just like him
@Anon.
Bob is ‘The Chosen One’
@UTSS The Harlequin investments are not covered by FSCS correct. But given the way Fatchett has cobbled together the trust and the wording of the trust the FSMA 2000 will not work either.
The FSMA 2000 is designed as compensation of last resort. Yet we have Ames and Fatchett both on record as stating that Harlequin can be saved. Ames has said that financiers are trying to knock his door down to give him finance.
And all will come good. Fatchett has supported this contention. Therefore suggesting that investors seek redress through the FSMA 2000, the act of last resort, smacks of Fraud. And Fatchett knows this.
@EL2 have you googled “how to claim job seekers allowance yet”? Do you understand the stupidity of your earlier post of 12.36. Have you gone to a darkened room chanting “what have I done. I have made myself look a right prat”
Typical Harlequin stance. Relatively coherent posts from the anti Harlequin camp. Paddy bashing from the Harlequin camp.
No Newman or WK bashing, lol Oh no, that would compound the current problem.
And now that WK in the joint statement claim no involvement in defamation the builder is now being accused of taking 30 million. Why not lets make it 200 million, or lets say 400 million.
Ames because of his arrogance put the deal with WK and Mr. Newman at risk.
A twice bankrupt, pathetic failure who cries at investor meetings and lies through his back teeth. The trust will fail because Ames and his wife are so reviled by all who meet them.
And BOB GET THIS. YOU HAVE IMPLIED THAT YOU ARE CONNECTED TO THE SFO. WHO IS JOE BOB? WHO IS JOE.? WHY STATE THAT THE SFO HAVE GIVEN YOU INFORMATION ON A CASE?
Anonymous
November 3, 2013 at 4:43 pm
Don’t be a cock,I would hope Gareth know the law!
But Paddy, he was your mate, where did it all go wrong? When you were caught?
Paddykins if ”A twice bankrupt, pathetic failure who cries at investor meetings and lies through his back teeth”
Beat me in court and nicked my assets that would P**s me off.
The Irish builder made death threats to the Ames family and barrister.
The Irish builder has a judgement to pay back money he stolen.
The Irish builder want’s Harlequin to fail.
Ames may be lots of things and not the most eloquent public speaker but he cannot be accused of the above.
The poison the Irish builder is spewing out day after day should be ignored.
He is a vile coward.
WRAE@apparently Gareth’s having a bit of difficulty on Tomlin law but Wikipedia can clear things up for the masses.
Most odd. So we have the Irish builder apparently the only one on here who is anti Harlequin, and everyone else pro Harlequin and Ames. Yet the coherent argument comes from the Anti Harlequin camp, with just personal attacks coming from the pro Harlequin camp.
And now we have death threats being made by the Irish builder against not only the Ames family but now his barrister as well. Next Harlequin will claim all the investors have received death threats too.
What utter rubbish. The Ames family and their companies are being investigated by the Serious Fraud Office and the Essex Police. A criminal investigation. RL and Garreth Fatchett are attempting to RESCUE Harlequin, which tends to suggest that Harlequin has failed as a business. Gareth Fatchett has also stated that some 60% of properties were miss-sold.
£400 million gone. Yet Harlequin will do anything to lay the blame for all this at the door of the builder.
And what about all the talk of taking Wilkins Kennedy down. Through the arrogance of the Ames family they wrote to some investors providing what they stated was a joint statement.
In it WK were vindicated on the defamation issue. But now we have heard nothing more. Now we are back to the Irish Builder. What do Harlequin and Ames have to fear from the Irish builder?
The Irish builder appears to really upset them.
@peter foster . cAn you prove what you say I have never heard anywhere that AMes and his barrister have been threatened. I urge you to prove the statement.
@Anon 1 you really are a bit thick aren’t you. Now you have resorted to shouting, silly boy getting in a bit of a paddy about it. Let me spell it out to you slowly. I. Am. Not. Going. To. Tell. You. Got it now want to supply the info about me being warned off? No because you haven’t got any. Oh and if you really want to know who joe is ask Erica, she has mentioned him in the past. Now go and heat up the potato broth and have an early night.
Possibly because MR OHalloran knows where the bodies are buried .both figuratively and factually
@ Lawmaker, Peter Foster is Harlequin. So he she should know. Ames would never lie.
@ Peter Foster You state that Ames cannot be accused of the above, you are correct. It is however being alleged that Ames has taken £400 million of investors funds and spent those funds not on what investors believed but much of it for personal gain.
A matter considered so serious that it is being investigated by the Serious Fraud Office and the Essex police. The Ames family and their UK companies are also being probed by the FCA , CIB and HMRC.
@ FDNRM there you go again. It was you who stated you were close to the SFO on this forum. But as usual you attempt to drag Mrs Broughton back into the discussion. See Bob you have made serious allegations with respect to the SFO and those are serious enough to merit a probe. But you are too stupid to understand the ramifications of your previous posts.
And Bob you were advised to wind your neck in by the authorities and by RL. But of course you will deny everything when you are brought to account for your actions.
You are a very very stupid individual and know nothing about any of the ongoing litigation.
You are the butt of jokes in most camps even the RL and anti Harlequin camps. I even suspect you make Ames and his lovely wife cringe at times.
FDNRM, PLease stop the lunacy , you are not helping HArlequin or Gareth. With each response you weaken the position of the trust. Every body and their dog has spoken to the SFO .when you ask them for info they always say they couldn’t possibly comment, obviously they haven’t said different to you because you are just an investor so please cool down , you are making the pro trust group look stupid
Benefit Bob, keep up the posts, you are stupid but your posts are a laff.
@Anon am I bothered? No. So just go away. You are adding nothing and I refuse to answer your stupid lies. For the last time, and I will not repeatp this again, no one told me to wind my neck in. Got that. So unless you have some fictitious proof I will not be drawn in responding to your lies again.
@GG. Even you have been suckered into the prat above allegations. I don’t know what he is talking about and now you seem to. Did I say they have said different to me? I’m making the pro trust look stupid? How is that? You seem to have a personal agenda looking at your earlier post today.
Bob , to make my position clear , I am in favour of the trust , I feel that your constant attacks on posters whoso ever they are does nothing to promote a calm sensible coherent group.I think now we should present a united front and cease the racial insults and abuse. It’s damaging to all of us
Who knows what the hell is going on. RL writes on its site that it only
has access to info on 2000 investors and that Harlequin controls the
rest. How can they legally form a “trust” if , -and this is a big if,- 2000
investors respond in the affirmative with cash deposits? We are told
at the meetings that DA supports the trust. Well why in the name of
Lucifer won’t he give RL the names of the remaining depositors. This
is sort of a weird support. Bottom line is that Ames will fight anyone
to the bitter end. And there will be a most bitter ending.
Sean Ghent and the rest of the security was hired due to threats by FT Paddy not because of investor threats -that is indisputable. This is another cost the investors has had to bear because of fat paddy! He was threatening Ames through his business in the Middle East. It was Paddy that was taking the risk there with the dollar that Ames has at his disposal he could have paid to sort paddy.
Paddy is all talk and no trousers with his gangster friends – I heard that he is that stupid he thought Little Mix was a group of Irish Dwarfs.
Michael Slaney – yes you are, your a cheap, leaching scum – are you a spud muncher like Paddy O?
Mr Aims said he would start construction when all the court stuff was over. So will he start construction. Mr. Fatchit has said he will help investors go after Mr Wilkin Kennedy who also stole Mr Aims money so surly it is all over now and Mr Aims can start again.
Hopfuly soon we will get our morgage money again.
@Michael Slaney
Stop being such a prick, you gutless Jiz money
@An Investor.
Jeez……….. Ames saw you coming, you thick shit, borrowed to invest lol
Welcome back Mr. Ingham another one of the die hards re-enters the fray.
Paddy bog hopper
Is Michael Slaney your latest hanger on?
@Gareths Groupies 6.52 “I feel that your constant attacks on posters whoso ever they are does nothing to promote a calm sensible coherent group.I think now we should present a united front and cease the racial insults and abuse. It’s damaging to all of us”
Gareths Groupies 8.14am “It’s time Ames distanced himself from the lunatic support fringe that is Bob Storey .This man has done more to distract from the trust than he has”
Thats you shown up to be a hypocrite LOL
Bob – that’s you shown up to be dense beyond words. Your
peasant DNA cannot be denied.
What an odd bunch of people you are. Do you actually think for one moment this is doing any good?
Its already drove many people round the bend, lets just leave this site to FDNRM and the Irish builder who has about 20 alias.
Bob seems a Pleasant Plucker to me; leave him alone
Drop the l’s and add h’s…….you’re probably spot on then.
MIchael Slaney you Smunt
I bet you join the trust.
Give it a rest Bob. You’re not helping anyone, not least yourself and the rest of the investors. Why not keep your mouth shut and let Fatchett et al get on with getting the Trust off the ground. Your constant half baked sniping at anyone even remotely critical of Ames and Harlequin is frankly pathetic, of no benefit and potentially damaging. We’ve moved beyond that now.
Hurrah for Michael Slaney – if he had done as much diligence
at the beginning he wouldn’t be involved. Frankly he is asking
questions and addressing concerns I’ve had.
Please send £240.00 to help needy lawyers at Christmas.
Or Text “GivingtoGaz” on 889900
BBAMB – please get your past participles right!
Ames is reviled here in the Caribbean. Today’s display on Barbados free press just demonstrates why this was such a terrible investment.
The personal attacks have done nothing to give comfort that investors will someday see a return. Mr. Fatchett’s desperate veiled threats on the RL website to attack anyone who threatens the trust is absolutely disgusting.
The decision on whether or not to join the trust is not Mr. Fatchett’s nor Mr. Ames to make. It is a decision each and every investors can make if they so wish. And the culling of reasoned debate on the issues has done more to damage any potential outcome to the trust.
The scaremongering tactics being resorted to by RL are to be quite honest despicable.
If the trust fails and most probably it will, it will have nothing to do with any influence Mr. O’ Halloran, Mr. Newman or Wilkins Kennedy brought to bear on proceedings.
The trust will fail because those who have advocated the trust have made it crystal clear their allegiance to the Ames family.
Mr. Fatchett has been at pains to point out on many occasions that he does not act for or represent Harlequin or the Ames family. It seems to be a case of ” he doth protest too much”.
Harlequin released what they called a joint statement on Friday on the defamation case. Within hours Garreth Fatchett was advocating support on the RL website amongst investors for an action against Wilkins Kennedy for professional negligence. However it became apparent that Harlequin had jumped the gun somewhat with respect to the press release.
This is not the first time that Garreth Fatchett jumped the gun. Within hours of the judgement in the Irish case being given, Mr. Fatchett tweeted, ” Good news for Investors, There is to be no appeal in the Irish case”
Now again tonight RL are attempting to rail road investors into signing up to a trust.
The trust issue has been handled in a most amateurish way. Tonight RL issued an update which deals primarily with costs, costs for valuations etc. Investors are still being asked to bear the costs of these valuations, the reason given in the past was that Harlequin had no funds, but on the weekend where Harlequin settled with Mr. Newman and Wilkins Kennedy and where Harlequin where most anxious to get this good news out to investors, it appears that Mr. Fatchett has not considered the possibility of getting Harlequin to contribute to these costs. Mr. Fatchett has also demonstrated the costs associated with posting out the trust packs, some £30,000.00, yet rather then suggesting that Harlequin now cover this cost, Mr. Fatchett is leaving the onus on investors to carry the brunt of these costs.
This despite Harlequin and the Ames family needing the trust to work.
RL suggested a trust but are now stating that investors must sign up ahead of any due diligence. They state this is due to both commercial and legal constraints.
But it was the original lack of due diligence that got investors into the trouble they are in now.
RL also now claim that again because of time limits and commercial restraints they cannot take a democratic vote on the trust.
Dec Appeal -well that gave me a belly laugh well said.
End Game-is it not possible to use the money he got in Thursdays settlement to offset costs to the investors?
Does anyone know if any simoleans actually changed hands?
Blue forms are what RL want.
Redress claims. The trust is the vehicle to get to them. RL would have the SIPP investors as claims and move on any day of the week. They are on home ground with the claims.
The Pink Forms are the cash needed to run the Blue Forms.
The trust could work. However, it will be attacked so much it will not get off the ground.
People will protest by sending in their Blue Forms only.
What a fantastic moment for RL. People protest by sending them what they wanted all along.
RL are being purposely “take it or leave it”. Why ? So people go for the free option.
What’s up with Gareth on the other site he is pushing hard for a yes without due diligence , could it be he will be dealing with the professional negligence claim against WK ………
That’s big big bucks in the save a lawyer fund
all the claim here and claim there its the builders fault its fdrm fault…….the question nobody wants/able to answer…how can you take in £400m in deposits mostly for property on land you dont own and then the money is nowhere to be found how can this not be a ponzi scheme how is it not a scam
does it make much difference to the Ames scam, other than to throw up some smoke
How can you take £50k..£100k more agree to build a property on a resort that never starts on land that aint yours
how can this not be dishonest
@End Game.
Sure you name should not be ‘Bell end Game’ because you are certainly a Nob!
I have been informed that DA will take the freezing order to the wire as he is feeling on top form after winning yet another case. 😉
CPC clients need very deep pockets……….. how much has it cost for getting how much back?…….Ooops that’s a big fat NOTHING.
People slag off RL over £200……..amazing…just amazing.
Maybe the Irish builder will stick his hand in his pocket for a few more holidays for his supporters.
I understand whale watching is popular in Iceland
TS do you mean the shop? By the frozen peas.
Yes, the Iceland shop.
I wonder if the clients will get a refund if it fails? LOL 😉
Lets look at numbers.
50k invested, paid so far lets say 5-10k in fees?
With more when it goes to court 5-10 more?
Call it 20k minimum
if, and it’s if you win 50% settlement
You could get 5K wow!!!
Or loose the lot plus costs
@TS & FDNRM, This is why the Ames and you guys are reviled throughout the Caribbean.
You had a settlement on Thursday with WK and Mr. Newman then breached the Tomlin Order. Not a victory. If Ames is feeling on top of the world why will he not restart construction on the resorts?
Unlike the previous cases Ames is a defendant in the freezing order case. You have a number of investors who have taken him to court in the UK because Ames is breach of his contracts with them. They have as a result asked for their money back as they are entitled to and Ames has refused. Hence they took legal action.
However investors should pay heed to your post. See RL are asking investors to relinquish contracts and undertake not to sue Ames or Harlequin. What hope will they have of ever seeing their money when Ames through your good selves is threatening to push the freezing order case all the way in an attempt to drive investors, (Ames’s investors) out of money.
Scum the lot of you, absolute scum.
Well said dismayed well said.
What absolute disgusting comments from TS. Now attacking investors who want their money back.
And crowing about another victory whilst Ames’s mate Fatchett has the begging bowl out.
@Dismayed, you keep banging on about this Tomlin order. Tell me, oh wise one, which part of the sample below has been breached by DA?
MADE ON [DATE] BETWEEN
(a) [Insert party name and details] and
(b) [Insert party name and details].
UPON THE PARTIES HAVING SETTLED THEIR DISPUTE BY MEDIATION ON
[DATE]
IT IS AGREED THAT:
1. [Party name] shall pay [party name] the sum of [£x] by way of [cheque/bank transfer
etc] by [time and date].
2. The sum referred to in paragraph 1 is paid and received in full and final settlement of
all [e.g. claims and counterclaims/matters set out in the pleadings dated x/matters set
out in the letter dated x] between [party name] and [party name], including [e.g. VAT,
interest and costs].
3. [Further, [party name] shall send to [party name] the [e.g. as built drawings numbered
x] by [date]].
4. [provisions as regards confidentiality or agreed press releases].
5. [Notwithstanding paragraph 1 above, each party will pay the mediator’s fees and the
expenses of the mediation on [date] in accordance with the separate mediation
agreement dated —]
6. [The Tomlin Order at [e.g. attached hereto] forms part of this settlement agreement.
[Party name] will file this Tomlin Order with [Court details] by [date].]
7. This settlement agreement shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with,
English law.
8. [In the event that any dispute arises in relation to the terms of this settlement agreement, the parties will endeavour in the first instance to settle it by mediation.]
I wait your words of wisdom.
Hotel Blu in St Lucia now selling rooms at $111 per night for late November.deduct agents commission and there is net about $80
BB rates have dropped to Us 626 for the same dates(all inclusive)Yet DA stated that the “high room rates” are what provides the high returns to investors.
The above rates coupled with very low occupancy means that money must be coming from somewhere else to keep these two puppies operating and there certainly is nothing left for investors to receive.
Lol you could not make this stuff up. FDNRM , Bob who normally cant cobble a coherent sentence together, this morning produces extracts from the mediation process on Thursday,
Last night Bob pm Garreth Fatchett on the RL site and asked Garreth Fatchett what a Tomlin order was. Bob however inadvertently posted his PM on the public forum on the RL site, the post has since been removed but lucky for me I kept a screen shot.
Good man dismayed for smoking these guys out lol.
Bob -Harlequin a witness for the SFO, what a laugh. Bob you really are a duplicitous little bastard, you and Fatchett are well matched. Lol
Ames and Co. are celebrating another victory. The new educated Bob produces text from a mediation process. So lets go to section 1. The section about money. If Ames won then where is the money? GF you tell investors Ames and Harlequin have no money. Paul Walton a stalwart on your site claims that Ames told him that Harlequin was making a small profit.
But putting that to one side. Ames is claiming victory in the mediation. GF you cannot now say Ames has no money, so please ask Ames rather then hard pressed investors to use this money to pay for the postage and for the valuations.
@Anon 12.30. “extracts from the mediation process on Thursday”? What planet are you on? It was an example taken from the web you idiot. So answer the question, what has DA done you stalker. And you know where you can shove your screen shot. Have you placed it on the back of your toilet door to admire. Sado.
Bob you have produced a template for a mediation process. So what? How does that prove a Tomlin order was not breached?
Why not produce the Tomlin order itself. ? Even better why not tell investors how much Ames actually received?
Oh yeah £1.2 million after all costs. So why not use this money to assist with the trust. £1.2 million and Fatchett says Ames is broke.
How does a sample prove an order was or was not breached, what shit do you smoke Bob. For fuck sake you really are a twat.
And I saw your post on the RL sight last nite. Lol You are a fucking pleb.
FDNRM @ 12.55 ” What has DA done you stalker ” ?
Very little by all accounts FDNRM.
Oh except he took £400 million and has nothing to show for it. Oh and has needed his companies to be rescued. Aside from that DA has done very little indeed.
TS 11.07 am .
I wonder will the investors get a refund if Harlequin fail. Lol
Lets look at the numbers.
£400 million + invested.
£200 million paid in Commissions
£30 million stolen by the Ames Family. Planes, Houses, Villas, Cash, Dividends.
£Millions on legal fees with more defending dozens of actions around the world.
Current Value of assets £1.00 x 9,000 contracts = £9,000.00
You could get £1.00 wow.
Or loose the lot.
Hang on, by joining the trust I give up my contract and right to sue Ames or Harlequin. I’ve just lost the lot.
Anonomous/Anon 1 You tell us if a Tomlin order was breached, where is your proof? Either put up or shut up you idiots. I would not have a copy, its confidential. There again if you say its been breached then it is not confidential any more. So again where has it been breached? Lets face it, it hasnt and you are just stirring things up. Last desperate throws by desperate people.
@Anon 12.31 (the fiction writer) All my posts are still on the RL site. You are just a pathetic liar who cannot do anything better than make up fiction. Send me your tel number or e-mail and I will send you a screen shot. Oh I forgot, you hide behind an Anon ID. Big Man.
the proof was issued by HARLEQUIN AT 6.15 FRIDAY by email I am sure didy dave will give you a copy of we could post up mine if your stuck
I have a copy. what exactly was the problem with the statement? are you going to state the issue.
Friday night, Harlequin send out a “Joint” release to some investors regarding the defamation case. Not all investors received this, just some. That in itself raises questions.
It has since gone viral as they say.
On an initial read of the statement it would appear that Mr. Newman was retracting his previous presumed assertions.
But on closer examination of the release, it states that Mr. Newman has NOT asserted in these proceedings that Harlequin was operated as a fraudulent scheme.
This is very interesting. In the public court documents relating to the defamation case, they state that there was a very high probability that Harlequin was operating a fraudulent scheme and not that they were.
Mr. Newman it appears is apologising to the Ames family if they had miss-construed what was being claimed, that is that THERE WAS A HIGH PROBABILITY that Harlequin was operating fraudulently as opposed to the Statement Harlequin WAS operating a fraudulent scheme.
So the Ames family sought clarification so to speak, and they got it. And Mr. Newman apologised if they got the wrong end of the stick.
But no where in the statement is there mention of the wording used in those public court documents.
Most lawyers including Mr. Fatchett will understand the significance of the wording. Indeed the allegations lodged in the court remain unanswered, that being that Harlequin was in all probability a fraudulent scheme. NOT THAT IT WAS AS A DEFINITE FRAUDULENT SCHEME.
Rather clever wording. Some how I feel that we will hear very little more on this from Ames or Harlequin at least publicly. Ames cannot expand on the agreed statement nor can Wilkins Kennedy or indeed Mr. Newman.
But to claim victory as a result of this statement where Wilkins Kennedy is acknowledged as having had no part in the defamation and Mr. Newman is clarifying his position regarding his stall as set out in his defence is rather odd.
All sides maintained their positions as set out in the public court documents and all sides have not deviated from their positions. But it appears as long as all parties behave themselves that the defamation action is at an end.
@very clever etc. at last a sensible objective view of the settlement without throw away comments not being backed up. I would have one question though, why was Mr MacDonald involved in the proceedings? Was he connected with the Harlecon site?
@Anon.
November 4, 2013 at 1:36 pm
You forgot to deduct what the fat Irish builder nicked.
@Very Clever, Yes Very Clever Indeed.
Who gives a shit?
Can Bob Storey or anyone explain how this is NOT a fraudulent scheme? This is something we have never heard before, not a single argument against this glaringly obvious assumption?
Ames lied on record many times, his agents provided totally absurd forecasts and his network of IFAs and agents sold a crazy investment to investors. People bought anywhere between 6,000 and 9,000 holiday units, starting from 2005. These units have not been built, for the most part there is not even planning permission, most of the money invested was given to the agents/IFAs, or was taken by the Ames as dividends and commissions. Investors handed over money for property, not for the Ames to enrich themselves prior to fulfilling their contractual obligations. Furthermore, airplanes were bought that serve no purpose, properties were bought for the Ames that serve no purpose for anyone but the Ames, a tiny fraction of what was sold was built and what does exist incurs massive losses, small irrelevant and unplanned hotels were purchased, people’s contracts were breached in a number of ways (units not complete, guaranteed returns not paid, mortgage payments not made etc) and yet Ames/HP are not honouring these contracts by giving refunds, Ames continued/continues to lie, SFO start invstigating, FSA issue warnings, still no sign of the money, units were in fact sold on land not even owned by Ames or Harlequin, a contractor is taken on without a contract (that is negligent at best) and he is responsible for US$13m disappearing. A ponzi scheme relies on new money to pay to initial investors – if ever a scam existed that needed new money to meet commitments of initial investors, this is it. How is this not fraudulent, or a ponzi scheme? Investors have been clearly defrauded. Robert Storey/FDNRM will most likely say this is old rehashed news, but noone has as yet provided an answer that can shine the above FACTS in anything other than a criminal light. The usual deflection is expected, but can any pro Harlequin person with a brain offer a theory on this. BTW, I am not an Irish builder, he clearly was in it for himself and only a total moron would have taken such an obviously self-serving person on. Birds of a feather perhaps.
@Dissmayed:
It seems you are more than a little upset ‘the freezing order’ will go it’s full term; how so?
You take ya chance an pay ya money 😉
You are not the Irish builder, not the same style.
Old news. What’s the answer then? Or are you just having a moan?
Quick Quick another breach of the Tommy order, sue them
http://www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/news/10783510.Harlequin_Property_s_former_accountant_apologises_over__Harlecon__website/
TS you claim that Ames is going to take the freezing order case all the way to court. You are a disgusting and vile individual.
Investors handed cash over to Harlequin on the promise that Ames would build and handover units.
Ames has failed to honour his contracts, instead he tries to blame everyone and anyone. A number of investors now have taken him to court in order to get what is rightfully theirs, that being their money back.
And you think your comment that I am upset because YOU claim Ames will fight this all the way. I am raging.
He takes our money, does not build what we paid for and you attack us for wanting OUR money back. Or would you prefer if everybody accepted what Mr. Fatchett wants us to do, that is give up our contracts and any rights we have to sue Ames and Harlequin.
Sorry we paid our money, OUR MONEY, and now we want our money back.
Ames had plenty of time to think about a plan. He said when the Irish case was over he would be restarting work in October 2013, he said he had interviewed a number of contractors.
GF on the other hand claims if investors do not give up their contracts and undertake not to sue Ames or Harlequin then the company will collapse.
And you have the audacity to tell me that I seem upset at your suggestion that Ames is going to fight this all the way, fight the fact he STOLE our money.
Go to hell TS. Go to Hell.
Now, now poppet no need to get all nasty and vitriolic with me; you decided to get your money back one legal route,it’s not worked out to well ( apart from the fee earners)
Calm down dear, calm down.
Leave someone with nothing to lose and you leave yourself in a very dangerous postion
Would it be wrong to say Harlequin was teetering on the brink ?
Good on you TS. You should be mocking every investor who wants their money returned and are legally entitled to it, they deserve it. What a bunch of jokers huh? Wanting back the money they’ve earned over the years when we all know it belongs to your pal Dave. Dave should fight team Crozier…..and he’ll win. After all, they only have are breached legally binding contracts to fight with when Dave’s got his reputation to fall back on. The funny thing is though that I heard Dave in one of the London meetings say that he admits he has made big mistakes and has let people down and they are perfectly entitled to have their money back….which he would pay if he weren’t skint. Now you say he wants to fight these same people. Sounds odd don’t you think? He also said he has already refunded hundreds of breached contracts in the last year. If you are right and he now wants to fight people who want a refund, then you really have to question the mans integrity and probably sanity. You’re really not doing him any favours making statements like that on here….but then maybe that’s your agenda?
Red and Blue forms, its another Masonic message
Red Cross of Constantine = Red
Blue Provincial rank It’s a call for all fellow Mason to join forces.
Why use these colors?
Don’t believe me look at this
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49465
We know why. The masons are involved throughout this process.
Audi, Vide, Tace (Hear, See, and be Silent).
Sir Arthur Knight Chairman, Courtaulds Ltd Bilderberg attendee (1977)
Ames had a connection to Courtaulds…… start to see a pattern?
David Wright Vice Chairman, Barclays Plc Bilderberg participant (2013)
Ames banked with Barclays………
The closest Ames came to courtaulds was a courtell jacket Carol bought for him in the 70s . He couldn’t frigging direct traffic.
One Ana Canga has just reported on the RL Site that Buccament Bay
has a hearing on 20 Jan 2014 to go into receivership. Can anyone
verify this. Come on BBaywatch find out for us.
BBaywatch is there any truth to whats being reported on the RL site
that Buccament Bay has a receivership hearing scheduled for
20 Jan 2014? You seem to have the best ears/eyes on the ground.
The Ana Canga post has disappeared…..very interesting!!!!
Hi All,
Did any of you take a screen shot of the Ana Canga post as not only has the post disappeared so has the poster
Amazing captain screen shot did not have a copy to sent to the SFO and all the authorities.
It never existed you berk!
Ames revels in the limelight. Loves to be seen hobnobbing with the rich and famous, a leopard never changes his spots.
So where did Mr. Ames come from? He claims on his website that he has had a string of successful businesses, an entrepreneur with over 30 years successful business under his belt.
But what were these businesses? He claimed to have sold a successful business to Courtaulds but they have no record of this.
He claims his son Dan played with the England youth squad, before Dans potential professional career was cut short because of Injury.
Ames himself claims to have at one point in time been the assistant coach at Southend United. Yet no one seems to able to recall any of this.
What we do know is Ames was bankrupt twice in the nineties. We know he worked as a double glazing sales manager for a few years in the early years of the noughties.
Former colleagues claim that when he established his property sales company in or around 2003 it was they who had to bank roll it. They also claim that Ames owes them the start up capital to this day. All though HMMSE was established in 2001, the selling of overseas property did not start until 2003, at which time Ames had lost his job.
He lived with his family in a three bedroomed terraced house in Cleres Crescent Wickford up to 2008 moving then to a multi million pound property complete with indoor heated pool, ponds and woodlands.
His son Dan Ames also acquired a multi million pound property in 2008 as did the other son Matt Ames. Matt and Dan joined the family firm in 2006. Prior to this Dan was employed by the Royal Mail in its procurement section whilst Matt ran a driveway paving business.
Ames started his Caribbean ventures at the age of 55 in 2006. Prior to this we can find nothing on line about Mr. Ames aside from his two bankruptcies in the nineties.
Most references to his ventures in Thailand, India, Panama, Australia and Cyprus have been removed from the internet, all though some cached information remains.
This is odd behaviour for a man who craves publicity, not odd though if that publicity was adverse.
Ames’s wife established HMSSE in 2001. It was through this firm that Ames was paid as his job as manager of a double glazed sales firm. This according to his original partners was done to circumvent his bankruptcy issues, but of course this cannot be verified.
Ames’s wife held the position of Office Manager at Patton Pools in Essex to 2004. In the evening time both she and Ames operated a business called Loans Made Easy and Mortgages made easy.
A sub prime lending agency, though not really a success the Ames family did make some money from selling Franchises in this operation.
In late 2005 Ames began selling properties in the Caribbean, most of the newsletters covering the period 2006-2010 have been deleted by Harlequin although a few remain.
The rest as we say is history.
And this is helpful how? We know he is not Lord Sugar!!
Out of interest was it business or personal bankruptcy ? Peter Jones, Simon Cowell all failed in business before making it big.
Never fear Captain Screen savers here. Yup we got it Fatchops. Oh we got “Do one” as well. Fast work Fatchops but not fast enough for CAPTAIN SCREEN SAVER.
PS the post is correct, it will appear soon on Eastern Caribbean Courts Website.
Now we must go and SCREEN SAVE THE WORLD…………..
I just love the hair makes me all….. well….. fizzy inside 😉
All,
Matters Arising
We have been very busy speaking to investors today. Remember, we are open throughout November 2013 until 8.30pm to take your calls and deal with your queries. Do not sit back. Please engage.
The vast majority of people have been supportive of the proposal. The most concerning calls are from investors who simply had no idea there was an issue. We have also had calls from investors asking how we obtained the data to mail to them. This is explained in our video update. Suffice to say, we did not handle any of the mailing process as this was done by a 3rd party under the permission of Harlequin.
Video Update
In order to ensure people understand a little more about what we are doing (and why), we have uploaded a short video. Please feel free to watch the video on the site or click on this link UPDATE Video.
Typo
We have uploaded all our documents on to the site for you to download. The eagle eyed will see that we have added a “7” on our bank account details on page 7. This gremlin is now corrected.
Third Party Instructions
We have instructed counsel from No5 Chambers (www.no5.com) to provide advice on elements of the trust proposal.
We intend to instruct the lawyers in the various Caribbean jurisdictions in the week commencing the 11th November 2013.
FAQs
We are collating these and will post them by the end of the week.
Conclusion
We expect the remaining letter to land tomorrow. In a few days we will be able to give an initial view on support for the Investor Trust proposal.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Swoon, Jeepers creepers you were quick!!
All this Super Hero talk……
what is ‘do one’ confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bankruptcy was personal 1996 & 1998.
It helps to understand who Fatchett is asking you to rescue, It is worth reading Fatchett’s letter dated the 1st. of November, in it Mr. Fatchett makes it crystal clear that the rescue, rescues Ames and Harlequin.
Could you do screen shot for me, in on a special site called redtube?
“Do one” was the response to Ms. Canga”s post. UP UP and AWAY, CAPTAIN SCREEN SAVER to save the world.
@ Ames the Real Story The Early Years
Thank you, one can happen………. twice!! well!
This just makes me think that IF some investor comes along they will boot him out, is that not a good thing?
CPS have a freezing order on his assets, SFO and all that – so he is a goner anyway?
Just need to get to the stage where he is booted out???
@Captain Screensaver,
Please do not be shy super hero post it up for us all to see
My hero Captain Screensaviour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who is paying GF for all the work being done? Could Ames be the only one paying him any meaningful fees and therefore GF working in a way that benefits Ames?
The post by Ames the early years is useful as it serves as a reminder that you are all engaging with a crook and GF and his firm are protecting him. It is extremely fishy. The business is just not worth saving, has anyone engaged Caribbean experts in assessing the business and the land yet? Without that information, you have no idea what it is that is apparently being “rescued”.
Folks, we urgently need you all to send in £200 + Vat. Time is of the essence, as you are aware it looks like Harlequin may be wound up in January, we have removed the post. But we do need your £200 + vat urgently, this is non refundable and we cannot guarantee that the trust or rescue will work, we will have nothing to do with it. Ames and his wife are responsible for this.
So please we need the £200 + vat before Harlequin collapse, we spent so much money on stamps and we are not going to be stung by this pyramid scheme.
So please our phones are going to be manned late all next week, we take Visa, Amex, Mastercard, cash, pension money, drafts, pay cheques and personal cheques, for those of you with financial problems we can arrange a Wonga Loan for you and we undertake to pay the first 3 days interest on your behalf. But hurry Ames is out of cash and creditors and the authorities are moving in.
So don’t delay, we need your cash and we need it now, NOW. WE NEED YOUR CASH NOW.
If you guarantee 10% return, and I can get use if the pirate ship and a discount on Harlequin Air, as well as a free week at Marquis Estate and a round of golf on Gary PLayer’s course there when it is built, then of course. Sounds like a bargain, almost too good to be true…..
Crikey!!!!! After watching the Fatchett video I could only be reminded
of late night TV in the States of all the over-the-top lawyers (the
ad-rates are a lot cheaper after mid-night) soliciting slip & fall, medical
malpractice, fender benders, subsequent back pain –well you get the idea-
fast talking lawyers preying on the gullible.
Fatshit could probably knock out a decent deal on a two previous owner ford escort . Must have done his legal training at “we buy any car .com”
Just in case any of you have not seen the Gareth Fatchett video here it is.
I do think Gareth would only be five foot four if it was not for his quiff.
The hair is totally spot-on, you couldn’t have done better…
Come on the hair is fab, you must admit that!
It looks like, along with a host others, Ms Canga was back in court on 30 October in SVG (Case No SVGHCV2012/0104). I wonder if Ames et al were unable to wriggle out of it this time? I cannot verify anything about receivership of Buccama (yet). That should put a spanner in the works no?
If the news about the Caribbean courts is true then i am sure Gareth will have something up his sleeve, there is no way Gareth would take money of people for the trust for the trust not to work is there? that would be like issuing stat demands and then not actioning them!
did anyone get a refund for them?
If for some reason Gareth did not know about the court action he does now no doubt he will make a statement as to where we all stand later today and how this affects the trust.
Have you seen the post on the RL site about O Hallaran trying to bribe investors and give them cash intensives, in return for insider information some have come forward.
Authorities notified.
I think that the word is incentive. Anyway how is that different
from “the Sun” paying for a story?
It depends on motives, one is for a story, the other for revenge.
A sad state of affairs when investors side with the very person who has been accused of taking other investors money.
It’s all about greed from the start to the very sad position we are in now.
Bloody money – I curse the lot of you.
Mark my words, think you been cleaver? Too late now
The SVG court cases are all Case Management Conferences, so not in themselves likely to precipitate immediate action (ie in the next few days/week) but might well be part of the timeline towards action in January.
The cases are not just against Ames and HMSSE but also against Merricks Resorts Ltd. so it does seem to be a broad front of action. Gossip at WTM will be interesting.
@Peter Foster,
It must have been deleted that thread as well as the one from last night WOW more gets deleted than put up. no wonder it is a crap site with about five posters on it.
That’s about 4 more than here, its all that Irish w4nkpot
BBaywatch – No mention of H-Hotel. Are there actually any investors
in H-Hotel or is it something that Ames used investors’ in other
schemes money for? That would be in and of itself fraud.
The supporters of that crooked Irish builder should be named
What about supporters of that crooked Essex “developer”?
We know who they are don’t worry, why give them the attention they crave?
The Fat Irish lump will drop them like a ‘HOT POTATO’ every pun intended 🙂
Wow, have you guys seen the story how Ames used forged documents in the builder case as verified by KPMG. And it seems he paid witnesses to lie. Perjury.
Authorities have been notified
Why is Ames so panicked by the Irish builder? What has his cage so rattled? Is it because Ames paid witnesses to lie?
The trust has failed, a little court case in the Caribbean taken by an investor from Scotland has brought down Harlequin. No one saw that coming.
And Harlequin of course will blame this investor for destroying the 1,000’s of other investments.
Like they blame everyone else.
anonymous , is this true , I have read the article but I belived the lawyer Commishing that no judgement had been entered can you clarify or give me the link please
So Peter, the builder, who Ames claims is toast is paying people for insider information on Harlequin. What’s the problem? Ames has maintained he has done nothing wrong so what dirt have investors got on him?
Peter the horse bolted along time ago. There is enough dirt on Ames to put him away for a long time.
Fatchett and his boss have suddenly realised this too. Fatchett’s boss has wrapped Fatchett on the knuckles, Fatchett now might just find himself out on his ear if he does not deliver the cash.
Fatchett’s boss has stated that RL will NOT be assisting Ames and Harlequin in the professional negligence action against Wilkins Kennedy or any other action for that matter. Nor will RL have anything to do with the trust.
Seems Fatchops went a little too far.
@Anon 12.15. No not seen the story. But more to the point, have you?
Old news Bob, the opposition in SVG gave the KPMG report to Panorama and a number of journalists. Everyone in BDS and SVG knows about the forgeries oh and the bribery too Bob. What oh you think it was just in the Irish case and so by deduction I must be connected to the Irish case so I must be the builder so automatically cannot be believed.
Well sorry Bob the issue of the forgeries is old news.
Paudie O’Halloran: guilty of fraud.
Jeremy Newman: apologises for the defamation that started the SFO investigation.
Wilkins Kennedy: coming soon.
The anti-morons will soon have nothing to cling to.
So the anti harlequin morons will be joining the investors, they too have nothing to cling onto.
@Anon 1.55. If there is nothing else to say new then lets regurgitate old news. More to the point where was DA press release on the Newman agreement in breach of the law? No one seems to be able to actually state what was incorrect in the statement. Funny that. When challenged the agitators go to ground. Perhaps I will warned off for bringing this up LOL
Bob, no one could give a flying fuck whether a press release broke the law or not. What they do give a fuck about is how Ames will repay them their money.
Ames took £400 million. Where is it? No one, not even you can justify, nor have you ever even attempted to justify Ames’s actions.
Ames and cheap whore wife are thieves. Scum and thieves.
I’m sure the trust is not at risk because of this one investor. We have known about her for a while now, so expect Fatchett has to. I expect she will be dealt with as necessary by Fatchett in order for the trust to progress. Let’s not look for extra drama as we have enough to deal with already.
The release said “agreed joint statement” you f*cking imbeciles.
“Uuuuuuh he’s a crook uuuuuuuuh!”
Claims begun by Newman who has now taken it back. Bring something new to the table or f*ck off.
Sid, Fatchett will not and cannot deal with Mrs. Canga and the other 50 or so claimants in the Caribbean.
It is clear from RL letter of the 1st November that RL are looking for an exit stratedgy.
Its the Irish builder who is unhappy Dave is on top form!
@Anon
November 5, 2013 at 1:17 pm
Where do you get this rubbish from? Sad fat Paddy Pervert
We all know your end game, what’s wrong someone sold your assets?
What about my free holiday and cash bungs will Paddy still pay out?
I have been such a good disciple; done whatever I’ve been told. Even though he stolen my money’
Kiss Kiss EB
Idiot……Ames “stolen” your money.
Sorry Anonymous 2:51 pm. Bad choice of words on my part. Fatchett may not deal with her himself but I am sure has factored her existence into the rescue plan.
Old news for some of you I know, but this link is for the newcomers…
http://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk/iesdatabase/viewdisqualdetail.asp?courtnumber=06674458
What with son Matthew Ames’ court case for fraud coming up again at the Old Bailey and the [alleged] receivership order for Buccament Bay in St Vincent it looks like January 2014 could be a busy month for the Ames family.
Who would I rather trust?
A law firm with a track record?
Or
An anonymous blog with a Irish builder who has a judgement for stealing investors cash?
Very difficult; is it not?
What about a law firm which uses a “blind” mailing to enlist clients
because the holder of the matter at question refuses to co-operate
100% even though the machinations of said law firm may mitigate
somewhat the legal vulnerability of that “holder”………..
This entire thing is sheer madness. In poker it would her time
to fold.
See I dont believe the Irish builder stole any money. Tery and Rhees offered me money if I would lie for Ames. I am not the only one. And Ames nows this. Tery asked lots of ICE emloyes to lie. He promised jobs and cash.
That is why Ames is hated in the Caribbean. He owes millions to local supliers. So u uk people no very little about what really went on.
Ames lawyer Commisiong was convicted of forging court registras signatures in the past. He is nowne in the Caribbean as a bent lawyer.
Matt treated the workers like slaves. The Ames are hated by the people. Many old workers are suing Ames in the court.
They are not welcome here.
Lizzard, just give it up. Old news. Do you really think there are newcomers on here? Its the same old crowd et al with multiple ID’.Try the Basildon Echo from 12 months ago. That will give you something to do. Now have you googled job seekers allowance yet? .Perhaps not, you will only get that wrong also.
Dear Purchaser/Agent,
We have received a number of queries from purchasers regarding the Investor Trust pack that was sent out by Regulatory Legal (R Legal) on Friday 1st November 2013.
R Legal prepared the pack independently and it was posted to you all through an independent third party printing and mailing house, under a non-disclosure agreement to ensure your contact details and data were protected and not shared with any third party. R Legal did not receive your personal details and Harlequin has ensured compliance with the Data Protection Act.
Harlequin contacted R Legal prior to the mail out last week and vigorously requested the opportunity to approve the pack to ensure accuracy and quality. Harlequin also sought confirmation from the mailing house that it would not send out the pack without Harlequin’s express consent. Unfortunately, the request to see the mail out was not granted by R Legal and the mailing house sent the letter without any input or approval from Harlequin, resulting in the pack being posted with what investors have identified as significant problems.
We share some of the concerns that have been raised with us and therefore it is important to make a few things very clear.
Harlequin’s position on SIPPs
Harlequin absolutely does not endorse R Legal’s position on SIPP providers, nor will it in any way support or facilitate R Legal in seeking redress for its Clients from SIPP providers. Harlequin values its relationships with SIPP providers and agents and sees no benefit in supporting any claims against them.
Trust
Harlequin, of course, supports the trust but does not agree that without the trust being entered into Harlequin will simply fail; however, Harlequin does stand a greater chance of success with the support of all purchasers through the establishment of the trust.
Harlequin believes that the trust provides security for purchasers which they would otherwise not have and considers it to be in everyone’s interests to sign up to it. R Legal has led the way and Harlequin will continue to support the firm’s efforts to promote this. The relationship between Harlequin and R Legal does not extend beyond that.
Your contract
As previously stated (and despite the contents of the letter from R Legal), your contracts are not with Harlequin Property but with one of the overseas development companies.
We hope that has provided some clarity.
Yours sincerely,
Harlequin
Harlequin have had two months to get their storey straight with REG LEGAL and then they post demotivating rubbish. Hymn sheet , singing same from – reorganise these words into a well known phrase .
@36 FDNWME
Seeing as you are so closely connected to Mister Ames and know so much about the situation in St Vincent Bob, I wondered if you have anything knowledgeable to apprise us with regarding the above post from x employe?
Also I’m surprised Bob. You and the rest of the vile trolls haven’t started shooting your potty mouths off yet about Mrs Canga’s genitalia or BMI. Have you been advised by someone to shut up about her?
@Lizzard, so now you are concerned because there have been NO posts about Mrs Canga? How very odd that comment is. Just to remind you I have never posted vile comments about anybodies genitalia or BMI and I have no responsibility for any other persons posts.
As a registered investor on RL , unlike you, I get a copy of every comment made by e-mail as it is made. I have no record of any post by a Mrs Canga. Perhaps Mr Screenshot can provide it? Or perhaps you have been suckered in by something that did not happen.
Well then Bob, you don’t get notified on every post because it was
there and ten minutes (or so) later it was gone. You probably get
notification once a post has passed the censor.
(I’m sure you meant to say above anybody’s and not anybodies).
from Harlequin: We hope that has provided some clarity
Oh yes DA/Harlequin in any format are not interested in helping investors and only want to save their own skin and retain as much as possible of the stolen money
DA is scam artist and this has and is a ponzi scheme and one big fraud
Yes it deffinately provides some clarity
@anon 7.49 nice turn of gutter language. Glad you believe everything you are told. I had a post withdrawn and was warned off. Oh sorry there it is. Where is mr screenshot when you all need him.
Bob – We (the anons of the world) really don’t need him. The truth
is the truth. That seems to be something that the Ames chorus
doesn’t seem to understand.
Its beginning to look more and more like the RL/Harlequin
match-up is a marriage on inconvenience…………
@36 FDNME
You totally ignored this part of my post Bob:
‘Seeing as you are so closely connected to Mister Ames and know so much about the situation in St Vincent Bob, I wondered if you have anything knowledgeable to apprise us with regarding the above post from x employe?’
posted by x employe
November 5, 2013 at 5:40 pm
“See I dont believe the Irish builder stole any money. Tery and Rhees offered me money if I would lie for Ames. I am not the only one. And Ames nows this. Tery asked lots of ICE emloyes to lie. He promised jobs and cash.
That is why Ames is hated in the Caribbean. He owes millions to local supliers. So u uk people no very little about what really went on.
Ames lawyer Commisiong was convicted of forging court registras signatures in the past. He is nowne in the Caribbean as a bent lawyer.
Matt treated the workers like slaves. The Ames are hated by the people. Many old workers are suing Ames in the court.
They are not welcome here.”
Oh and Bob I read Ms Canga’s post myself so I know it existed before it had to be removed.
Captain Screensaver exposes Bob and Fatchops.
https://anonfiles.com/file/495171b944808479a4703a6c4c6128bf
Up up and away, more to expose soon. Captain Screensaver……………
@ TS we know who you guys are too. Lol and what’s more we know you are all up to your necks in it. So how is Dave this evening, has he kissed and made up with Garreth yet?
Surely you must understand that Garreth’s independence must be seen as just that at least to the mugs (sorry that’s what Dave sees them as) I meant investors.
Now now, don’t get too upset, as Dave said earlier there is no need for a rescue, so I suppose there is no need to give up the contracts either, nor is there a need to undertake not to sue Ames or Harlequin.
Chat later TS.
Anonymous @ 9.46
Who is TS? It would be nice to unmask that toxic degenerate.
I’m clearly not on the Harlequin side (I’ve thought this was a scam for 6 years), but I’m concerned about RL’s slant on the Trust.
Why is it being argued by RL on their site that it’s either the Trust or liquidation? Does the trust mean no liquidation? Why is the Trust being discussed as integral to a rescue? What rescue does the Trust instigate? Is it guaranteed that outside investment will happen if investors hand over more cash to set up a trust, and if so, what will they get in return? Will the formation of the trust by investors paying (non-refundable fees) mean they will see a return on their investment? Does it mean resorts get built and investors’ contracts get honoured? Why is this ALWAYS a one way street with Harlequin? Investors hand over cash and MUST NOT answer questions, whilst Harlequin do what they like and guarantee nothing? What difference are RL making here??
It is disingenuous and misleading for RL to suggest this is a “rescue” to the Harlequin investors, the majority of whom aren’t bright enough to understand any implication anyway (a good example is Gob Almighty, James Shaw who’ll, like a thug, jump down the throat of any investor who raises any awkward question on the RL site – how dare anyone bother with due diligence now, eh? Just pay up – who cares what happens it’s the Trust, that’s all that matters!!).
I believe it is totally wrong for RL to be stating that it’s the trust or lose everything.
The statement should be, IMO,
“You’re more than likely to lose everything at this stage. You have half a chance claiming for misadvice via your IFA / SIPP provider, but they’ll fight and Harlequin appear to be supporting them. You can chuck more money to set up a trust although Harlequin state this is not required for the continued operation of the business. The set-up of the Trust will not make any difference to the fact that you are never likely to see the return of your deposits, or a return on your investment (as formerly promised by Harlequin) in this lifetime”.
Mirabile dictu ………some on the RL site are actually beginning
to reason out just what is going on.
Hmm, Michael Slaney is no fool. At last, a Harlequin investor with a brain and balls. It’s been years, and many many NDAs since we’ve seen one of those speak out on social media.
Anon to Anon @1049- You could not be more correct !!!!!!!!!!!
@pisshead 2 see you have started the sill ID calling again. In response to your question you make the assumption I am close to DA and I am able to answer a question I know absolutely nothing about. I don’t know anything about it. Got that.
Where the hell is Harlisuccess when you need him/her?
Some things are certain. There really was an Ana Canga and there really was a hearing on the 30th Oct which was a case management conference, at which a date would have certainly been set for the next hearing, so why would anyone lie about the actual date, which is the only thing that can be a lie (if it is).
More importantly if the date was a lie why didn’t RL simply correct that rather than remove the post, which is what they did.
The only rational deduction is that RL wanted to keep this little bit of inconvenient news from the investors as it would cast a very deep shadow over the whole point of the Trust and therefore dissuade many if not all of the investors from sending in their money.
When this all goes belly up, as it surely will, RL might just regret removing that post. I think it might come under the heading of professional misconduct.
Click to access casemanagementconference29thto31stoctober2013masteragnesactieag.pdf
Who would I rather trust?
A law firm with a track record?
Or
An anonymous blog with a Irish builder who has a judgement for stealing investors cash? Who pays cash to ‘investors’ to spy.
Very difficult; is it not?
Anonymous
November 6, 2013 at 8:21 am
What’s up Paddy Ames got you rattled? As well as your assets LOL
WELL T.S AFTER THAT STUPID DISPLAY YESTERDAY AMES GOT ME RATTLED.
That was a disgusting thing to do to Gareth when he is trying to save the investors and Harlequin
@ Anon 8.21am………Ana Canga is not the only one that has a case against Harlequin and DA in St Vincent . There are several more including some dealing with Merricks Barbados.
GG, if that email rattled and angered you, you need a few months in a clinic to chill out. Get a f*cking grip.
The pro Harlequin camp are doing all they can to bully investors into signing up to a trust. Fatchetts recent actions and his complete U Turn over the past 72 hours has rattled Ames.
Ames also knows that he is facing some serious potential criminal charges, sadly TS who is employed by Ames believes that attacking everyone who makes a sensible comment on here will vindicate Ames.
Same applies to “Death of Anti mob” etc.
The praise being heaped upon Fatchett is beginning to wane. It is now apparent that Fatchett has achieved nothing to date.
All he obtained was a mailing list. No due diligence has been undertaken on Harlequin to date, RL will not be joining or supporting an action to go after Wilkins Kennedy for professional negligence contrary to what Fatchett stated last week.
No idea yet of the true value of the properties, Fatchett’s proposed trust cannot work in some of the Caribbean countries due to their laws, the trust faces many many challenges. Most will not be over come.
RL will not have any part to play in the trust contrary to what Fatchett stated last week.
The pro Harlequin group have never once stated how this is going to work, odd when those on here are employed by Ames.
Bob refuses to acknowledge he got it wrong on Anna Canga, Harlequin have hijacked the RL forum, Fatchett is in Ames’s back pocket and will face severe repercussions as a result.
Fatchett’s boss is very uncomfortable with the way this whole thing is going. It would not surprise me if Fatchett was to strike it out alone soon. Fatchett could also be seen as aiding and abetting.
If I had a dog in this fight I would immediately contact the
Caribbean International Law Firm in SVG. With the number of
complaints they have filed they must be very up to date on any
and everything pertaining to Harlequin.
yeah , Ames is so rattled he has flew to the USA today – maybe banking the wilkins kennedy pay off ??????????????????????????
Fatchett’s boss !
Who’s his boss ?
GF Boss:
It’s the Duke Of Kent
Give up your right to sue DA and Harlequin…then wait..5 years for …what?
http://www.ifaonline.co.uk/ifaonline/news/2302888/law-firm-harlequin-can-be-savedbut-it-may-take-five-years
Fatchett is a partner in RL and reports to the managing partner. Captain Screen Saver will hopefully be able to post up details.
Ames is in the US, flew business class? funny Fatchett tells us he is broke. And we have to pay for everything, his UK company is in Administration, creditors are looking for him, and police hot on his heals. Yeah I bet he is a happy camper.
Fatchett will do nothing to cheese Ames off including it now appears putting his own career on the block.
Interesting article posted above, in that article Fatchett states if “WE” can turn it around………… Giving the impression in October that RL were behind the trust, compare this with the trust pack letter sent out on November the 1st. RL are to have no involvement in the trust. Harlequin is to be still controlled by Ames.
So can he explain his article / interview on IFA online? I am not the only one who has picked this up.
Shut up O’Halloran your boring me now
Trust a legal firm or a desperate Irish thief?
international-adviser.com/news/products/harlequin-settles-libel-action-against-former
Property investment firm Harlequin has settled a libel action case which it brought against its former accountancy firm, Wilkins Kennedy, and two former employees.
In a joint statement issued today, Harlequin and the Ames family who own the company, confirmed it had agreed and out-of-court settlement with Wilkins Kennedy LLP and former employees Jeremy Newman and Martin MacDonald.
According to the joint statement, the action arose from a website which alleged that the business operated by Harlequin was a fraudulent scheme. The statement added that the terms of the settlement are confidential, but “the offending website has been closed down and will not be reopened”.
The statement added: “Wilkins Kennedy and Mr MacDonald deny any involvement in authorising, approving or setting up the website or its content. Neither Mr MacDonald nor Wilkins Kennedy have asserted in these proceedings that the allegations were true.”
However, Newman admitted he set up and operated the website “and regrets his actions in doing so. Furthermore, the statement said Newman “did not intend to suggest, and has not asserted in these proceedings, that the business operated by Harlequin was in fact a fraudulent scheme”.
Both MacDonald and Newman were also found in August to have been “in league with” a former contractor of Harlequin who was found to have “fraudulently misappropriated” more than $13m.
At the end of July, the High Court of Ireland found Padraig O’Halloran, a former ICE Group contractor for Harlequin’s Buccament Bay Resort in the Caribbean, guilty of misappropriating the money from more than $50m which was sent to ICE Group for the resort’s construction.
During the case, it was revealed that both MacDonald and Newman who were working for the top-25 accountancy firm Wilkins Kennedy at the time, helped O’Halloran in his deception of Harlequin.
The judge found that MacDonald, a Wilkins Kennedy partner at the firm’s Southend office, and Newman, a tax manager at the company’s Egham office, were, despite being the accountants for Harlequin, in fact “in league with O’Halloran”.
The judge said: “I am satisfied that the evidence establishes that by the spring of 2010, MacDonald was working in league with the first named defendant (O’Halloran) and he had a serious conflict of interest in continuing to act for Harlequin.”
Very valid points being raised and it appears that many on the RL site are waking up to the fact that all might be not as it seems. Those in Harlequin must be rather deluded if they believe the posts on here are directed towards them.
Ames is in serious trouble, Harlequin are in serious trouble, Ames took £400 million and has nothing to show for it. Fatchett is back tracking. Harlequin are clearly demonstrating to all that they have nothing of substance to say but blame the Irish builder.
The SFO has stated today that they are still going after Ames, not old news.
If this is the best Harlequin can do, produce a potentially libellous online article. Lol
What court, where, found Mr. O Halloran fraudulently miss appropriated more then $ 13 million USD, and what court found Mr. Newman worked in league with Mr. O’ Halloran. And what no mention of the appeal, now that’s a surprise.
And no mention of where the other $611 million USD has gone. Yes I deducted the 13 million.
Surely Harlequin can do better then this. 2% was enough to bring Harlequin down.
No mention of the 50% paid in commissions to agents which RL and Garreth Fatchett state miss-sold property.
No mention of the £20 million siphoned off by Ames 5 %. Naw, of course not. And no mention of the ongoing police investigation. Absolutely not. Lol
Ames stole millions from investors, hence the reason why he is being investigated.
RL state that at least 60% of the properties were sold illegally by the SIPP providers yet Ames maintains they are his friends.
Ames who mugged everyone for 625 million USD then gets mugged as he claims for 13 million and now wishes to join the ranks of being classed as a victim.
Ahhh not very plausible now is it. The mugger got mugged and is now shouting from the roof tops. I am a victim, I am a victim.
Eh Hello, are not the Essex police and SFO still hot on your heels Mr and Mrs Ames?
My , how a few months changes relationships…see what Harlequin had to say about their pals at RL, a few months back.You can’t make this stuff up.
http://harlequinupdates.wordpress.com/tag/gareth-fatchett/
That just proves to be that Mr Fatchett not only has style and panache, plus an enviable head of hair, he is a clever strategist 😉
@Now Now.aka Fatty Potato face.
The latest SIPP letter from HP certainly does not look they are the best of mates,
The Irish embezzler and his band of merry women, were only recently saying GF was too chummy with Ames.
Maybe now they want to attack him because he has upset him!
Let me ask two simple and direct questions of those HP supporters on here.
Do you believe that Mr. and Mrs. Ames are decent citizens who have done nothing illegal or wrong aside from being too trusting of others and perhaps a little naive? Yes or No.
Do you believe what happened Harlequin is as a result of a number of factors combined, the economic crash, the theft by the Irish Builder and others and the involvement in the fraud of Wilkins Kennedy.?
Yes / No.
Let me ask three simple and direct questions of the Irish builder / supporters on this blog:-
Do you believe the Judgement; he nicked money off investors?
Why do his supporters support him, he nicked their money?
Why does he want HP to go bust?
News Flash! HP is not to go bust…they are already bust, as in no money to build, no money to pay debtors, no money to pay returns or loan guarantees, simply…bust, broke, washed up, finished.Why can’t some people just get it it?
Who will finance anything they are involved in?
Who will complete on units at BB when there are way more investors than units built?
Why have their BB rates and Blu rates plummeted recently?
A “rescue plan” is a dream for DA, and a dream come true for RL, who will pocket some cash from desperate investors.
Anon 4.15 “The SFO has stated today that they are still going after Ames, not old news.” Not old news, just bullshit. LOL
Insolvent trading is not legal in the Caribbean, as it is not legal in the UK or the USA. To knowingly trade insolvent and to do so whilst deceiving investors or shareholders is a criminal offense and the directors of that company are liable for massive fines and/or prison sentences. The Caribbean companies have been trading insolvently for a long time now – local and regional contractors are owed money, but also all the investors are owed either refunds or mortgage payments or whatever else it is that was agreed with those Caribbean companies. In the Caribbean, prosecuting such cases is not as straightforward as in the US or UK. However, with the condition of those companies, the bad reputation and massive liabilities combined with the disunited thoughts displayed by investors on various forums, thoughts or plans of a trust to improve the situation really do seem far fetched. Putting a claim in via a caution on property owned by a Harlequin company in the Caribbean and then seeing those companies liquidated may get you something sooner rather than an ongoing wait for a salvation that, if you stand back and look dispassionately at the situation, is just not feasible.
No we dont.
Reasons; (a). Ample proof that Simon Terry was actively canvassing witnesses offering financial inducements or in some cases threatening individuals that if they did not provide incriminating evidence they would face criminal prosecution. Indeed some of the latter threats were allegedly made in the presence of a QC Mr. Rees who still acts for Ames and the many Harlequin companies despite his chambers being owed just shy of £250,000.00.
(b). Ames, Terry and indeed Rees relied on forged documents in order to have the cases originally admitted to the courts.
(c). Ames had vital evidence destroyed and refused ICE access to their own documents.
(d). An appeal has been lodged. The grounds for the appeal are wide ranging.
(e). Harlequin witnesses lied on the stand. For example Mr. Ronan alleged that RLB had lied about valuations and it was contended by Harlequin that RLB were involved in the alleged fraud. This despite Ames inviting RLB to take over management of the construction of his resorts in late October / November 2010.
Indeed Ames has not sought to take any sort of professional action against RLB. Nor has he ever made reference to RLB.
(f). Ames claimed in court that little or no work was carried out at the Buccament Bay Resort for 2 years despite the fact that Ames visited the site on a monthly basis and continuously praised the 1200 construction workers for the huge efforts they were making, even referring to the progress in numerous newsletters that Ames has since removed from public view.
All of the above is common knowledge throughout the Caribbean.
The Irish builder has huge support not only in the Caribbean but also amongst the professional and legal community this side of the pond. Most intelligent individuals know Ames for what he is, a twice bankrupt liar and con man.
The answer to question two lies in the answer to question one.
And again the Irish judgement is the subject of an appeal.
As anonymous has correctly stated Harlequin are already bust. They have been trading insolvently since about 2008.
Now that these questions have been answered care to answer the original questions?
Bob aside from the fact that your credibility has been severely damaged by your claims about Mrs. Canga’s post on the RL site, and given that a number of journalists contacted the SFO in past 24 hrs. IFA online and FT Advisor to name but a few. Given your relationship with the SFO are you now stating that the SFO investigation is over?
See once again you have stated that the information regarding the continued investigation is ” bullshit ” or that the SFO have confirmed in the last 48 hrs that they are still investigating Harlequin.
A number of journalists confirm this in their latest articles in the past 24 hrs so why Bob are you saying this is bullshit?
100 – Your last sentence says it all.
On the one hand you have Harlequin’s criminal enterprise, and their employees who post on here to disrupt, distract and provide not a single coherent argument about the condition of the business and the potential future. On the other you have well reasoned posts with evidence (the lack of any development perhaps being the most blatant) This goes round in circles.
IFA’s are a funny bunch. Why did they think Ames would help them ?
The Redress Claims are part of the plan to reduce the number of investors.
RL state categorically that HP had their letter prior to mailing. RL said “no” to amendments. Well done them.
Did you see in the RL video that GF gave a masonic sign ?
How blatant do they want to be ?
W Bro Ames must have enjoyed watching it. His gavel would have been upright by the end.
From tomorrow our prices will be changing.
1. For women over 14 stone we intend to charge more. Rightly so. Greedy people should pay more.
2. For people daft enough to throw £100,000 plus away, we are going to double costs.
3. The rest can pay the £240.00.
While we at it, we can confirm we shall we having our winter conference in SVG. Mr Ames has generously offered free places for the tired RL staff.
Why does Bob The Patsy keep popping up ?
He was Ames’s stooge while RL were bashing him. Now they love each other he has been spurned.
Dave & Gareth 4 EVA
Bob is no more
It was more than just a sign, hidden messages in the words.
Are you referring to Bob ‘Operation Yew tree?’
If you play the Gareth Fatchett recording backwards you will hear him summoning the help of Beelzebub and swearing alliance to him.
I have replayed it backwards many time and all I hear is Ames shitting in his pants
Is your name Erica?
Ames is caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to IFA’s and SIPP providers.
The SIPP providers will claim that much of the due diligence was supplied by Harlequin.
Possibly using either forged documents, which Harlequin have used in the past on more then one occasion in furtherance of their business goals. Any culpability with respect to the false information contained in any due diligence supplied to the IFA’s or SIPP trustees on the part of Harlequin will most certainly cause the SIPP insurers to go after Harlequin for any final redress, which will not be good for SIPP trustees.
The due diligence the SIPP providers and IFA’s would have relied on in all probability came from Harlequin and their Accountants Wilkins Kennedy. Ames will undoubtedly blame Wilkins Kennedy.
A James Shaw is tonight claiming on the RL site that Ames’s case of professional negligence will nett Harlequin some £30 million.
It is difficult to see this kind of money being paid out, or any potential 7 figure sum being paid out without a fight. If Wilkins Kennedy have Harlequin Skeletons in their vaults then this is one sure way of getting Wilkins Kennedy to pour their hearts out to the authorities.
If Wilkins Kennedy’s insurers feel that Ames has any justifiable claim then they will most certainly seek a deal which will be fully covered by an NDA.
However this will also most certainly drag Wilkins Kennedy into the ongoing criminal investigation.
If on the other hand Wilkins Kennedy have nothing to hide, well Ames runs the risk of having much of his business and accounting practices exposed in open court.
Ames and Wilkins Kennedy have a number of issues they need to look at before going down this road of possible mutual self destruction. For example the details surrounding Project Orange whilst currently covered by legal privilege will not be once Wilkins Kennedy are embroiled in litigation. The legal privilege does not cover accountants and Wilkins Kennedy’s role in this alleged cover up could be used as a weapon by Wilkins Kennedy or indeed Harlequin.
Harlequin will not come out of this unscathed, for example Carol Ames has stated in open court that she was unaware of any of the financial matters pertaining to her company HMSSE, this despite the fact that she signed off the accounts every year and in doing so stating that she was fully aware of what was contained in those accounts.
Some say that such is the relationship between Ames and his wife that Ames will have no issue in tossing his wife under the proverbial bus.
This case will be a very prolonged and messy affair if and it is a very big if, it ever reaches court.
It is apparent to all with a legal interest in Harlequin that last weeks settlement had more to do with, who had the deepest pockets rather then getting to the route of the issues in that dispute, and contrary to what spin Harlequin have put on this, Mr. Newman’s defence in those proceedings was that it was his belief that Harlequin were PROBABLY operating a fraudulent business not that they were most definitely operating a fraudulent scheme. The devil was in the detail of the joint release. Very carefully worded. Mr. Newman off course apologised to the Ames family if they had miss-understood his defence.
He however did not apologise for suggesting that Harlequin was PROBABLY a fraudulent scheme as was attested to in his defence papers lodged in the courts and as referenced to in the joint statement.
The settlement suited Harlequin because they now do not have to go through the discovery process which would in all probability been very revealing to those with an interest in probing the affairs of Harlequin.
Sounds like Newman got stitched up to me.
Is the £500,000 paid to HMSSE true?
All,
Very busy again. Huge number of calls. Plenty of Pink / Blue Forms in the post.
“Walk Away” Investors
We have found a new category of investor. The “walk away”. Surprisingly, we have people who simply want to extinguish their contracts. Eg to take a 100% loss.
Resistance
We have also found some resistance from agents / IFA’s who do not like the Redress Option, We expected this and can understand fully why Harlequin needed to distance itself from this. Practically, investors want to retrieve as much of their money as possible. Many say, “I like my adviser, but ….”. At the end of the day, if the advice was unsuitable then at some point the questions will be asked. This happened with Keydata, CF Arch Cru and others. We can see no reason why investors will not want to review their position.
To balance this off, we have spoken to some really professional agents who have stuck with their clients. These agents have the goodwill of the clients. They will be fine.
We saw the update from Harlequin to SIPP providers / Agents etc. We could perpetuate the debate. However, what good does that do for investors ? It is a distraction. We have made our feelings known to Harlequin and vice versa. Matter closed.
Our priority and resources are seeking the best possible solution for investors. Nothing else.
SIPP – Technical Points
You do not need the permission of a SIPP trustee to be involved in either the Pink or Blue streams. A SIPP is a member directed pension scheme. You direct them, not the other way round.
There is no doubt some of the SIPPs do not like the idea of us and our wider legal team looking at them. However, when they have not undertaken a adequate due diligence exercise or allowed monies to be paid to the UK Harlequin company without checking onward transmission then what do they expect ?
We calculate around £3.5 – £4m p/a in SIPP management fees is being paid by investors. This is dead money and the position needs to be resolved. We cannot imagine that any SIPP investor would want to pay for a set up their neither needed or is suitable for them.
When we hear the first investor say “I like my SIPP too much to upset them by asking to explain themselves” or ” I do not mind paying over the odds for something I do not need”, we will be sure to let you know.
Conclusion
We have no doubt in our mind that things are moving in the right direction.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
HMSSE pulled out. Ames flew to NewYork this morning Business Class. Ames is using a bank in the US to funnel funds through to avoid the Crozier freezing orders.
Ames is now putting all cash through his US bank.
As they say catch me if you can.
Nikki will have his little winkle on toast if he steps out of line
Crozier does not have the balls to go after Ames. All bullshit no action. Ames could not give a shit about Crozier.
Insider – Very interesting. Could some of that money come from Dubai?
Because of the Homeland Security Act any deposit over $5,000 from a
foreign source has to declare where the money is from. It is pretty easy
to track money in a U.S. account.
We need Frank Cannon PI back.
Bob needs looking at.
How cautious is GF ?
I think he was initiated that way.
Ames is channeling funds from the travel side of his business through NY. Dave Campion Argo developments Barbados is building a villa for Ames on Bequia. Its not in Ames’s name. Campion is the key here. His company was funded by Ames.
US Banks are not such safe or secret places these days when large deposits are made-
Ames has been taking deposits for holidays for 2014 2015 and 2016. He has spent much of this money. Harlequin Travel has a cash shortfall. Some of the money from the settlement is to make up the shortfall. Will the police not stop this thief.
Retire in bequia ? Live like a millionaire? Sounds like the short arse double bankrupt Englishman did not do too badly for himself. His Investors? Not so much!
It remains to be seen if unpaid employees, contractors and suppliers will tolerate this situation .
So Gareth Fatchett endorses Bob Storey to be a trustee of the investor group ( reg legal site ) I personally think GF has been sniffing the sand at BB .
Thats me out then .
I think you must of been sniffing something.Very interesting that GF is endorsing this person and website
http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/robert-ladell-4
Law breaker; its the wrong Bob!
Go have a look at the latest on RL site about PHIG group
Hahaha hohoho. Lawmaker the muppet. It would be a good job if you were out. Best laugh I have had all week. Now you are called law breaker it seems by others. Come on you lot get your acts together. HaHa LOL
Bob, you should know by now anyone with a name of Robert is guilty.
Lawmaker stands corrected must have my idiot head today apologies to those offended by my actions
@Lawmaker / breaker!
I like your honesty. 😉 admitting you cocked up.
Bob Stuck in the 80’s Totally independent investor!!
PR consultant for HP registers the site, Harlequins solicitors are ‘the Office’ and the best they got done for a £10 million pound ‘error’
He can’t half pick ’em Diddy Dave
What is is with Bob’s?
We have the ‘original’ Bob; now we have Bob happy clappy chappy lets all hug trees and send out mixed messages Bob ?
He just need to F**k off and leave us alone, he want to charge a membership fee for his site – Shorty must have not followed through on his promises of payment, what a surprise!!!!!!
Bet he promised him some special nasty little deal??????
It’s all totally corrupt.
I wouldn’t be surprised one bit, if Bob PHIG is part of the same organisation? They all want to stick together watch each others backs.
I don’t usually buy into this conspiracy theory malarkey, but the information by James Shaw on the RL site can actually be backed up – unlike most of the posts by the ‘Anti Harlequin bunch’
It’s a very weird situation indeed.
I have been doing my own research on Freemasonrey and it does raise some searching questions, not all bad but some,it’s scary , if true.
It would be a fair comment to say, it attracts senior people and those with money and power.
I have a fairly open mind, but this is making me thing of something else is going on in the background we will never be privy to.
Aye Paddy Potato Pot Licker, get you concubines to defend this:
http://international-adviser.com/news/products/harlequin-settles-libel-action-against-former
TWO CARIBBEAN companies are suing an Irish developer over allegedly diverting for his own use large sums out of $52 million paid to his companies for a major hotel and resort development in the Caribbean allegedly left unfinished.
It is claimed Pádraig (Paudie) O’Halloran (40) misappropriated substantial funds to pay for his planned wedding in Ireland, to be organised by Weddings by Franc; buy property in the Caribbean; renovate his rented Barbados home; buy expensive cars and a $65,000 teardrop diamond ring for his girlfriend; and lease a private plane.
Mr O’Halloran, his girlfriend Suzanne Floyd and others are now being sued before the Caribbean courts by two companies owned by David Ames, of Essex, England.
Proceedings have also been brought in the Irish courts.
A former employee of Mr O’Halloran’s, Trisha Young, said in an affidavit the “key motive behind the siphoning off of funds was to continue to enable his beloved girlfriend Suzanne Floyd to live her lavish lifestyle”.
So Ralph is back again under a different name.
Paudie is so well respected that he only had Newman there to defend him? HAHAHAHAHA! GOOD ONE!
The Caribbean community so loved their prodigal son Paudie O’Halloran that they sacrificed him to the Irish courts so that he may cleanse them of their sins.
@ PMGG I think you will find that the article was dealt with by Now Now at 4.38 pm yesterday, but again it appears that Harlequin will rely on libellous information to defend their position. Hypocritical when its Harlequin who claim they were being libelled in the first instance.
And it is very odd that Mr. MacDonald is still very much an active equity partner in Wilkins Kennedy.
So PMGG how much of the money that Ames won is being given back to investors and given Fatchetts claims that Ames is broke how come he can travel first class to New York?
And what has happened all the cash deposits from the travel company?
And why are the SFO still actively pursuing Ames as confirmed by a number of journalists in the past 48 hours.?
And why is Argo building a villa for Ames on Bequia when Ames claims he has no money?
And why is Ames trying to sell his Dubai properties when he claims they are held in trust for HMSSE?
ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS I JUST MADE UP! DO IT!
Why is Ames making voodoo dolls of all investors and stabbing them with carrots?
Why is Ames buying a unicorn so that he can sell it to the Chinese?
Why is Ames controlling all news media with his powerful blue eyes?
Why are the SFO playing beach volleyball with Gareth Fatchett?
It is really apparent to all now that the Irish Builder is really rattling Ames’s cage. One can only imagine why.
Old news I know but ……
Yes let us all on here beat the Irish Paddy guy up!
Let us not bother to discuss Harlequin or Ames in fact why not get BFP to start a new thread on the Irish one and let us have this one dedicated to Harlequin!
So questions
1, Is Harlequin trading insolvently ?
2, Is the trust going to work?
3, If this Canga womans courtcase goes ahead where does that leave the trust as she would have all the land at BB?
4, Is the SFO still envolved?
5, Who paid for the Ames’s flights to America?
5,
@ Tdoatm I will try and best answer your questions.
As to investors, Ames demonstrated his loyalty towards investors by paying £200 million of the £400 million deposits paid in commissions to entities which it is now claimed illegally sold the properties. However even though the properties were illegally sold Ames claims in a recent letter that these agents remain a very important part of his business.
Ames took £20 million personally and failed to provide audited accounts for his investors which would have allowed his investors see how the money was being miss spent as it turns out.
TS demonstrated vividly Ames’s utter contempt at any investors seeking to recover their monies by stating that Ames will bring that case all the way to the wire.
Ames does not control media, he has and continues to provide the media with false and sometimes forged material. He has produced false accounting records to a number of entities. Fact. The BBC being one of the entities where Ames provided absolutely false information.
The SFO as reported in the past 48 hrs are continuing their investigation into Harlequin. I am not sure what you mean by your question, if you are implying that Fatchett is playing a game with the SFO, that may not be beyond the bounds of possibility. His relationship with Simon Terry and Ames has always been questionable. His recent U Turns on the trust and supporting Harlequin in their professional negligence claim against Wilkins Kennedy have raised eyebrows amongst many in the know.
I am sure however that any alleged wrong doing as seems to be alluded to by your good self will be dealt with appropriately by the authorities.
Anonymous
November 7, 2013 at 1:48 pm
Yes lets beat him up. 😉
He stolen investors money.
Yes, but how does he keep getting away with it and winning court cases?
It’s the Masons I totally believe that how else?
Quick, now…. RL blog GF said he is going to take on the WK case to help recover investors money.
And according to Ames in the Irish court case so did Wilkins Kennedy, Martin Mac Donald, Jeremy Newman, RLB , and Ridgeview Construction, lets see who else he claims stole money, ah yes Andy Smith, Procure It Direct, Alan Bell, Ken Picknell, Rodger Manning, DLA Piper, and countless others and yes Ames is on record in claiming that all these people stole money, so lets incite some violence shall we.
Ames, the Irish builder has you and your cronies well rattled, very well rattled. This is now hugely apparent by your current behaviour.
We wonder why?
He won one case, lost four previous cases, but does not talk about them. And the one case he won is under appeal. Funny how he used investor money to bribe witnesses.
In 2009 he won an apology from the Guardian Newspaper who claimed that Merricks was a desolate waste land, has any body been to Merricks recently?
He shut down the signing pig who claimed Harlequin were not a legit business, Fatchett now claims that 60% of the properties were sold illegally, so is that a legit business?
And the list goes on and on.
He is being sued for millions in the Caribbean and has lost all those cases. His lawyer is stalling for time by claiming he is too busy to deal with matters.
Crozier and CLC have him on the ropes, but he never tells us this, they have all his personal assets frozen.
So not sure why it can be stated that he is winning all his cases.
Jeremy Newman officially apologises and retracts his nonsense but some people with a vested interest still want to bang on about it.
Get over it, you lost!
Actually Anon – they do not have all of his assets frozen just the 2.4 or 2.5 million for their clients . Gareth has gone a different way and is securing some/all/most of us by mortgage on his overseas land .There wont be money for the people in the carribean not if they want to see the resorts work and have jobs and long term income.
So Insider this morning “DA flew to NY business class” Later Anon “DA is flying to NY First class” You people really should get your acts together. Talk about disorganized.
Dear death of the anti mob, I am investor in Harlequin, I am a little tired of the spin you and the other Harlequin employees put on everything.
I have given Ames my money and I have nothing to show for it. You people are absolutely disgusting vile filth.
Mr. Newman exposed you for what you are, thieves.
I gave the joint release to my solicitor and he said simply. Mr. Newman according to the joint release never said Harlequin was a dodgy scheme, he said that it probably was. Mr. Newman apologised to the Ames family if they thought he said it was. My solicitor said that it does not prove that Harlequin is not dodgy. He said it is a clever piece written to confuse most investors.
And Harlequin keep bringing it up. WHERE IS OUR MONEY AMES. You stole it no one else. You are a vile horrid conman. And so is your wife and family.
@MB, remember, DA has been charged with nothing. Newman has been implicated with O’Halloran in Fraud in the Irish case. Your rhetoric, while understandable, should be directed in more than one direction.
Mr. FDNRM, is it true that Essex Police and the SFO are investigating Mr. Ames?
How much did Mr. Ames win in the Irish case.?
FDNRM- NEWMAN WAS NOT IMPLICATED IN THE iRISH COURT CASE
I truly hope he starts an action against you now lets hope little davy has some money he can chase down to help you pay the bill .
“I RAN A WEBSITE FOR HALF A YEAR CALLING AMES A THIEF AND LORD OF A PONZI SCAM BUT I DIDN’T MEAN TO IMPLY HE WAS ACTUALLY A THIEF!”
MB you twat.
Investigating, not charged. Many people have been investigated by the SFO without coming to court.
The amount awarded was US$1.9m in damages.
de higher up de tree de monkey climbs…de more ye see dave’s tail.
And many ‘people’ including Harlequin are still being investigated by the SFO. Scroll down on the left and you’ll see Harlequin is still on the list of ‘dodgy’ companies.
As they say, ‘The SFO aims to keep victims and witnesses informed of the progress of their case,’
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress.aspx
so never fear
Dear FDNRM, Ames took 625 million US in deposits from us investors yet the Irish judge ordered O Hallern to pay back 1.9 million, so what happened the other 623.1 million US.
And I do not know any one who ever got investigated by the SFO. Are you saying that Ames wont be prosecuted.
You said before the SFO told you about Newman so have you asked them if they have stopped looking at Ames.
Did Newman lie to the police? Wont he go to prison for that. I am confused now. Can you explain it to me. You are the only real person on here.
The Irish builder is in a real tail spin!
Trust a Theef 😉 or a UK Law firm?
@ Bob likes to suck his own tiny knob.
Wish I could do that Bob!
@ Pressstud Pen is
It looks like you have nothing appropriate to add. What is your point? Have you even got one?
Would the Harlequin supporters just ever shut up. They have done more to focus attention on Ames and Harlequin then any Irish Builder or former accountant could have done.
Ames said the Irish builder was toast, Ames took all his assets and sold them. So that’s it. Irish builder finished. Unlike the Harlequin Resorts, in there case not even started.
When is the work going to resume? When will Ames stop lying.?
Seems as if there were 10 cases against various Harlequin companies listed for the case conference in SVG (29th – 31st Oct) involving Claimants Raymond Caldwell, Mark Gillooly, James Gillooly, Ana Canga, Robin Hutchings, Ian Craig, Gordon McCullock and Gordon Cunningham variously claiming against David Ames, Buccament Bay Resort Ltd., HMSSE, Harlequin Properties (SVG) Ltd, Harlequin Properties (Caribbean) Ltd., and Merricks Resort Ltd. That should keep the SVH lawyers busy for a while.
@MB, so that is the alias you are using now. Same old same old questions. Surprised you did not ask me who Joe is. With your multiple identities no wonder you are confused.
@Basildon bilious attack
Actually, it was an experiment in human nature; you took the bait.
Robert Storey has been vilified on this blog, some would say for good reason.
Moreover, it’s deemed ‘acceptable’ to bully and ridicule him and his family.
Apparently Bob being accused of self-fellatio is acceptable, but not to mention a something that’s not appropriate, by someone who has nothing appropriate to say.
I don’t expect you to understand, being a tad stupid 😉
Court cases, more cases but no proof! must be lesbo lover or the Wigan bunker.
Trust an Irish builder or UK solicitor???
Senior Management at Harlequin on a two day week, outlook not looking good.
General opinion we won’t be needed when finance in in place – got their own team.
BLLSMIB
You have made my day!
RL, coming after your IFA’s, look at this Yorkshire bank comment
http://www.ifaonline.co.uk/ifaonline/news/2305351/yorkshire-bank-goes-to-the-wire-to-respond-to-gbp23m-of-arck-claims
At the death of the Anti Mob, Sir have you read the joint statement? More importantly do you understand what it says?
Apparently not, which is most surprising given your relationship with Mr. Ames and your total support of him.
So you post in the hope that investors will believe you and Ames, one more time. Well believing Ames has gotten all the investors into the mess they are in.
Anyhow back to the pertinent wording in the agreed statement.
However painful this might be for Ames or the rest of you.
” Mr. Newman has admitted that he set up and operated the website and regrets his intentions in doing so” ( fair enough nothing contentious here ).
“He did not intend to suggest, and has not asserted in these proceedings”, (meaning he never claimed in court documents that Harlequin was a fraud, instead he claimed in court that there was a very high probability but not definitively that Ames was engaging in fraudulent activity) that the business operated by Harlequin “WAS” a fraudulent scheme.
The wording is very clever indeed. It however leaves the door open on the issue of whether Harlequin have indeed engaged in Fraudulent activity.
So Mr. Newman’s defence was that Harlequin in all probability were operating a fraudulent business, Simon Terry would have known that Mr. Newman would have requested documents from Harlequin had the case continued in what is known as the discovery process. Those documents could have put it beyond doubt that Harlequin were engaged in Fraudulent activity, so why would Harlequin want this come into the public domain.
Funny the spin Harlequin have put on this.
Well 6 days on and despite the follow on protestations by Harlequin and their supporters and their inferences that the SFO investigation was solely as a result of the allegations made by Mr. Newman on the Harlecon site. The SFO have confirmed in the past 72 hrs. to journalists that their investigation is still very much alive.
So it might now be up to the SFO to finally unmask the alleged fraud and prosecute those behind the fraud, including Katherine Manderfiled / Wooler, Dan Dalligan, Sara Tricker, Dave Ames, Carol Ames, Dan Ames, Nicola Kelliher, Matt Ames, Simon Terry, Simon Taylor, and others in senior positions in Harlequin. Along with certain IFA’s and agents. The directors of Tailor Made SIPP, Marcus James, Rowanmoor Group PLC, Guardian SIPP etc etc etc.
@legal Eagle, so a question for you.
If the above is correct then why did WK ask for mediation if Newman had such a strong case? If Newmans case was so strong then why did they not fight it? If WK had fought the action then your supossed documents would have been brought to light.
Also no one has suggested Newman was the sole reason the SFO got involved. What he did though was to start the process by going to the SFO on three occasions. Also of course a SFO investigation is still ongoing until it is closed. It’s not rocket science to understand that.
And finally your list of fraudsters did not include O’Halloran. Why was that?
RL are receiving way more blue forms than pink !
IFA’s and SIPPs – your going to cop for this !
A massive thank you to Garreth Fatchett and the team at RL. We thank you in advance for taking the Ames Family Fraudsters down.
Mr. Fatchett claims that SIPP providers mis-sold Harlequin products. Mr. Fatchett estimates this to be some 60% of the Harlequin portfolio.
Meaning 60% of commissions were wrongly paid. Or £120 million. Approx 1/3rd of this was kept by Mrs. Carol Ames through her company HMMSE, £40 million. If Fatchett is successful and he seems absolutely adamant his case is watertight he will be seeking recovery of all commissions paid in respect of the mis-sold property. If he doesn’t the SIPP insurers certainly will. And any investor who does not sign up to waive their rights to sue the Ames family will also have a cause of action.
Fatchett however is encouraging investors to waive their rights to sue the Ames family and Harlequin, Fatchett is walking a very fine line in doing this, and his advice will certainly be challenged by some when the fog of war lifts.
Fatchett hopes to push through a CVA for HMSSE. The CVA will save HMSSE, fantastic, this will allow a number of third parties come after HMSSE for a recouping or redress with respect to the wrongful commissions paid.
Whilst many believe that Fatchett is the saviour of the investors. It must be dawning on Fatchett that he has stirred up a Hornets nest.
He is now caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. He needs a knight in shining armour to get him out of this mess.
Fatchett has lost focus, on the one hand he claims to represent investors whilst on the other hand he has shown extreme bias towards Ames and Harlequin, this has more to do with the tail wagging the dog from the outset. As a result of his loss of focus, he has created the storm about to descend on Harlequin.
The trust will now fail. No financiers will look at Harlequin given the issue surrounding the commissions obtained by HMSSE on the mis-sold properties. And the looming threats from the SIPP insurers to come after Harlequin and the Ames family.
Fatchett has by his actions allowed the Harlequin Group to be liquidated. Goodman Mr. Fatchett.
1. Ames
2. RL – Investor Trust
3. Irish Builder
4. Agents / IFA’s
5. SIPP providers
You get to chose one to work with. Make you choice wisely.
FAO – Gotcha Now ..
The spat over the letter proves RL are doing their own thing.
The irony dawning on everyone is that RL’s due diligence process (to create the trust) will expose the wrongdoing.
What a mess.
@Simple choice — I go with none of the above. How about a #6 –
The Caribbean International Law Firm
@ FDNRM A few questions, one, who stated that Wilkins Kennedy asked for the mediation.? All matters pertaining to the mediation are subject of a Tomlin order/ confidentiality agreement with the exception of the agreed statement.
Mr. Newman is not employed by Wilkins Kennedy and was represented in the action by separate legal teams and QC’s as can be seen by the documents filed in the Queens Bench Division.
So his defence was separate and independent of Wilkins Kennedy and Mr. MacDonald. So in essence you had three independent and wholly separate parties in the case, The Ames family / Harlequin, Wilkins Kennedy / MacDonald, and Mr. Newman.
The Ames’s and Harlequin claimed the had been defamed, Wilkins Kennedy / MacDonald claimed they had nothing to do with the website nor responsibility for Mr. Newman’s actions which was reiterated in the joint statement. And Mr. Newman who admitted he was behind the Harlecon site.
Harlequin would have had to produce a huge amount of documents in what is known as the discovery process. This could have proved very embarrassing for Harlequin.
Wilkins Kennedy and Mr. Newman had a right under UK law to bring a security of costs action against the Ames’s and Harlequin and given Harlequin’s current financial position no doubt Mr. Newman and Wilkins Kennedy would have won.
A security of costs action means that the plaintiff’s in this case would have had to lodge a significant amount of money into court in the event they would loose the action. If Harlequin did not have the cash to do this Harlequin would have lost the defamation case by default. Now that would have been embarrassing for Harlequin.
Mr. Newman would have had to spend a small fortune in continuing the action. Money he most likely did not have.
So as you can see, Harlequin or Mr. Newman could have called the mediation. But given the ferocity of attacks by Harlequin against Mr. Newman, one has to ask why would Harlequin accede to a request for mediation if they had nothing to hide and knowing that a continuation of the action would in all likely hood result in the bankruptcy of Mr. Newman.
We will never find out who called the mediation as a result of the Tomlin / Confidentiality agreement but it does appear that it was the Ames family who benefited most from the mediation. Not with standing the fact that as a result of the mediation process Mr. Newman does not have to continue to fork out for legal costs.
We will never know, nor will we ever know whether Mr. Newman paid Harlequin or indeed if Harlequin paid Mr. Newman. As stated aside from the financial burden on Mr. Newman which Ames would have no issue in seeing Mr. Newman suffer from, it was Harlequin who in all probability had the most to loose.
Again you state that Mr. Newman went to the Serious Fraud office on three occasions, you appear to be making a statement of fact on this matter.and have indeed in the past alluded to the fact that you were privy to information from the SFO. Would you care to elaborate on how you came by this information. ? You are actually bringing into doubt the confidentiality afforded to potential witnesses of the SFO by making these statements of fact. Which in itself is a very serious matter.
I am dealing with criminal fraud in my posts, and as Mr. O’ Halloran does not fall into this category. The judge in a civil court found that Mr. O’ Halloran had engaged in fraudulent miss-representation and awarded costs to Harlequin as a result.
Ames and Harlequin are being investigated for criminal fraud, indeed serious criminal fraud, they are also being investigated by the civil authorities, those being the FCA and CIB along with HMSSE.
Jesus Christ is there anyone out there who can shut that fool Bob up. Even a blind man can see that there is increased monitoring of all posts here and on the RL site and Bob is single handedly bringing down the trust.
Bob just shut the fuck up you idiot. You are putting all our investments at risk. Fucking fool.
Bob clearly drifted into the realms of the insane some time ago.
imho JN did his best in getting some serious questions out there regarding the whole dynamics and viabilty of the HP proposition. the sfo are now investigating and the fca have issued warnings so again imho he honestly believed there was some serious concerns for investors and given the current situation some of those allegations have proven correct. SO why should he now open himself personally liable for massive solicitors fees to defend himself (job done so to speak as those with much deeper pockets e.g sfo can investigate further and let the truth be known). the joint statement issued imh0 just allows all parties to withdraw without the need to take litigation further and thus avoid further costs. standard practice in mediation proceedings. very carefully worded apology. AND BTW why are all court proceedings by HP civil and not criminal??? if fraud has been perpetrated?
People need to understand that mediation is not ‘called’ by one of the parties, it is a voluntary arrangement agreed between the parties sometimes as a pre-cursor to arbitration if a deal cannot be struck. Both mediation and arbitration are private, in that neither the public nor the press has a right to attend so commercial enterprises prefer it to court action which is akin to washing your dirty linen in public. Consequently, it is no surprise that the parties both preferred the private option because it meant that the sordid details would remain private – sounds fair enough to me.
yes indeed, IA , basically all parties will meet and weigh up the costs of further action or meeting in the middle and agreeing on a middle ground. a business proposition rather than a true reflection of the actual position. take your chance and have your day in court and win/lose , be liable for costs ? or settle and walk away with some costs /settlement and draw a line under it with no further litigation costs. DOES not mean that the truth /real facts have come forth just that all parties have decided that it is not economically viable to progress further.
@Anon 9.23 talk about the ranting of an idiot. You really think my views could derail the trust? My Harli Krishna follows are growing dramatically, I must get more CDs made for the 100s no 1000s of followers who must me influenced by my views. See how stupid your rant looks now.
Bob – the Bob who is the problem is the one from PHIG .
You are fine.
@legal eagle, ah yes the Tomlin order, and where is DA in breach of this? You never answered that did you. More scare mongering by yourself. And the files presented to the Queens bench division, are you sure you want to talk about that? Perhaps you would like to enlighten us on those proceedings? As for the defamation case, as the results were confidential you seem to know a lot about a confidential case. Let’s face it Mr Newman would not have paid any money, he has none.
Yes FDNRM there were many documents filed in the defamation case which were public. For example all the part 18 requests.
Sadly I know nothing about what happened in the mediation, it is after all you who stated that Wilkins Kennedy asked for the mediation, and I suspect Mr. Ames and or his colleagues have briefed you in contravention of the Tomlin order. But you of course will deny this.
What intrigues me however is your reluctance to make further comment on the fact that you claim Mr. Newman contacted the SFO on 3 occasions. I shall address this with the authorities in the morning as I am concerned that the SFO may be leaking information to your good self given your apparent knowledge of Mr. Newman’s alleged involvement as a witness in the Harlequin case.
Gareth is bullying people by saying that if you do not sign into the trust you will be classed as “hostile” ? How many people have joined Regualtory Legal website in the last week? I do not believe it is over 5000? Now Gareth has paid for the mail shot he should know exactly how many investor there are? so question for Gareth Fatchett how many investors are there?
This is just a scaremongering tactic learned at the knee of David Ames. I would enjoy seeing the future financiers taking any action against investors!
The trust and his good self are not our only source of redress, we still have options other than to line the pockets some more of the Ames family!
We have CPC working away quietly in the background and I am sure if people wanted to pursue agents CPC would take this on as well as the Ames family.
People could approach Panonne’s direct there is no reason to go through Regulatory Legal except to line Gareth’s pockets.
Bob, I know it’s not you.
Many thanks for exposing the leak 😉
or try to derail the trust, sick bastard
@Legal Eagle, again you refuse to state where DA is in breach of a Tomlin Order. Lets face it, he isnt and you are just fishing for information. Talk to the authorities? Yes why dont you do that. I would like the authorities to talk to Ralph, Private Dick et al (see Als back) Now there is a leake of private information if ever I saw any.
RL , Pannone and No5 Chambers – all mates together !
RL’s panel of lawyers includes these firms.
It is any wonder the agents could rip investors off when they exhibit signs of being so thick ?
It should be renamed as http://www.masons-warning.co.uk
@Risk Warning Calling clients thick=no clients 🙂
We visited the Reg Legal offices the other day, met several of the team, Becky, Tobias and the main man Gareth – he is quite a hottie !!!
The whole place was awash with pink, looked like Gay Pride event in Brighton or Canal St In Manchester 😉
Anyhow, we was concerned about a few little niggles
1. Irish Builder
2. The anti Trust bunch
In summary they are not worth worrying about, a minor irritation. Just like a spot on your you bum. Not nice to look at but ……. not important.
@legal eagle, well the old bill haven’t called yet. I need to go out, do you think it is ok? i dont want to get pulled over by the fire arms squad for witness intimidation do I. Mind how you go out there.
Its not about money: Padraig O Halloran is opposed to Freemasonry on his strict religious grounds.
Since Dave Ames joined the lodge they fell out.
Bob,
I doubt RL, Pannone or No5 would ever tell clients they were thick. More mischief I suspect.
Anywhere, who cares ?
Calm at last
TRUST ABOUT TO COLLAPSE.
FATCHETT CAUGHT LYING TO INVESTORS.
More to follow.
@Anon 12.40, can you not tell when someone is impersonating me?
More importantly I had a knock at the door this afternoon. Could it be plod coming to talk to me about witness intimidation, something called Tomlin, the Queens bench ( I nearly gagged on that thought) or someone called Jezza wanting to file my tax return? No it was the paper boy wanting his money. Perhaps I should until the early hours for the door to be battered down by the boys in blue? Perhaps I could get Legal Eagle to represent me? Whoever he is.
For the attention of Mr. Gareth Fatchett
C/O Regulatory Legal Solicitors.
CC. XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dear sir, we recently received the trustee pack and your letter enclosed with the pack ref GWF/ Harlequin dated the 28th of October 2013.
We have very serious concerns with the particular section of the letter under the heading “Alternative Course of Action”.
This section is contained on page 5 of the letter issued by RL and Garreth Fatchett.
We are now calling on Mr. Fatchett to clarify the statement contained in the paragraph above.
This section of the letter is wholly miss-leading and investors are urged to seek independent legal advice on the contents of the letter but with specific reference to this section.
Unless RL and Mr. Fatchett clarify the facts in this section, an assumption could be made that RL and Mr. Fatchett are attempting to coerce investors into signing up to the trust.
The following statements are wholly false with respect to all investors with the possible exception of the 100 or so investors who have been invited to close on their properties.
“The alternative course of action is not to engage with the offer being made by Harlequin Property to investors in relation to the creation of an investor trust and the securisation of land assets”.
“This will mean that any third party financier may consider you “Hostile” and likely to take action to enforce your contract.”
The statements are false for the following reasons.
(a). No third party has the right to take an action to enforce your contract with one of the Harlequin entities.
The only time a third party financier could attempt to enforce the contracts is if the Third Party Financiers purchase the assets and liabilities of Harlequin. Then and only then could they attempt to enforce the contracts and in the case of Harlequin this would be the contracts for which the 100 properties are currently ready to be transferred.
But the third party financier in this case would be bound by the terms of the contract, and would have to pay the late completion clause of the contract and also the 10% guaranteed return.
No one with respect to Harlequin, be it third party financiers, or potential purchaser will be legally able to enforce the bulk of the 9000 contracts. 8900 contracts will not be enforced.
They can’t as Harlequin are already in breach of contract with respect to the bulk of them and soon most others will have expired.
The contracts can only become enforceable once the resultant properties associated with these contracts have been completed. The bulk of the 9000 contracts have not been started with only 1% of the properties currently completed and a further 1% at various stages of completion.
Investors are advised in lieu of the above to seek immediate independent legal advice on this and on any further advice being offered by RL and Gareth Fatchett.
We also call upon Gareth Fatchett to formally state if he, RL or anyone connected with them or represented by them is considering an option to buy some or all the assets of Harlequin.
Mr. Fatchett will also need to explain the time bar consequences investors will face when relinquishing their contracts or rights to sue Harlequin.
We reserve our rights in connection with this letter and will forward a more detailed letter to the relevant authorities should RL and or Gareth Fatchett not deal with the matters raised.
Yours sincerely,
Concerned Investor Group.
You COCK, sure they will reply Paddy 😉
Have you sent it with a name on?
Silly fat Paddy.
So let me get this right , you want RL to comment over the internet on an anonymous basis . You must be very serious.
No surrender 1960.
1690 – my apologies.
Erica, stop being a silly girl.
Why not front up and post under your own name, you weirdo.
Paddy pot licker gets tongue burned
Paddy why did the girlfriend you tried to by leave you ?
Dave’s money ran out ?
Pervy Bob, in the sights of operation Yewtree
Why not pretend to be Ralph or Malcolm and post on the RL site ?
Or even better go to Bob PHIG, friend of the IFA’s ?
RL site now Fatchett makes $50, million bid for BB
Robert Ladell, is related to Dave Ames, via Masonic Devil Worship cult
Concerned investment group, Thank you for clarifying the issue of the financiers. I will now ask RL to clarify their position. I will also take your advice and get a second opinion.
I have been advised SIPP providers have been in meetings with RL to work out the best terms to avoid being forced into liquidation.
I have been told this by someone who works in this sector.
Sorry, I don’t have details yet. It would appear from my fellow investors PHIG seem to be setting up some sub group and talk of action!!
More to follow…..
# King Billy, who cares where the letter comes from, the content is what is important. And the content of the letter is very interesting indeed. Fatchett along with many others looks at this site, so over to you Gareth. I for one am very appreciative of others willing to provide vital information. You guys in Harlequin are really bothered by the Irish builder, you think he is the only one out there asking the “RIGHT’ questions? WRONG.
Padraig (Paudie) O’Halloran (40) diverted some US$1.48m (€1.1m) paid to two companies in his Ice Group for the Buccament Bay resort to his personal bank accounts in Ireland while further payments of about €150,000 were made from his companies to `Weddings by Franc’ for his wedding in Adare Manor, Limerick, which ultimately did not take place, Mr Justice Brian McGovern found.
Further payments totalling US$258,000 were also made from Mr O’Halloran’s companies to the Irish bank accounts of his father, Donal O’Halloran, ostensibly to repay loans which Mr O’Halloran claimed were made to him by his father some years earlier, the judge said.
The “Rescue Plan” never had a chance in hell . The Trust was to hold property at BB as security, that really has no commercial value on its own merit. Some pathways, pool, etc. do not make a 5 star resort .what an ill conceived plan that only desperate and gullible “investors” would buy into.
Then again , DA and Harlequin did a pretty good job of convincing thousands of people to fork out over £400 million based on CGI photos and videos of properties that did not exist, to be built on lands not owned by Harlequin, and for which Planning Permission had not been obtained.
Now, several years later, with almost nothing built, some of these same “investors” are willing to put even more money and faith into this so called “rescue plan” . The Ambulance Chaser Fatshit sees that he can profit from these poor folk’s stupidity and greed in some cases. Folks….there is no “happy ending ” here, as the girls at the massage parlours in Puckett say.
The developers are in breach of contract…..sue their asses and stop praying for miracles.
he court heard during a 31-day trial there was no written contract and money was diverted into personal accounts of Mr O’Halloran to fund lavis purchases, including a wedding, private jet, a racecourse in St Lucia, a car franchise business and renovations to a rented property on the Sandy Lane estate in Barbados.
Then Dave Sold the lot 😉 Kept the wife!
Potato face gets splashed with happy ending!
Paddy is a robbing scrunt end of.
What do ya call a leprechaun covered in cement,???…a wee hard man…
One day an Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman walked into a pub together. They each bought a pint of Guinness. Just as they were about to enjoy their creamy beverage, three flies landed in each of their pints, and were stuck in the thick head. The Englishman pushed his beer away in disgust. The Scotsman fished the fly out of his beer, and continued drinking it, as if nothing had happened. The Irishman, too, picked the fly out of his drink, held it out over the beer, and started yelling, “SPIT IT OUT, SPIT IT OUT YOU BASTARD!!!!”
Good on ya Mr. O Halloran or whoever you are. Lol the reaction from HP says it all. Lol
RL have some questions to answer. I just love it seeing the vertically challenged one spit out his duck eggs.
Paddy goes into a John Lewis department store and asks the shopkeeper, “Excuse me sir, but do you sell potato clocks?”
The shopkeeper looks at him and says, “Are you taking the piss? We sell cuckoo clocks, carriage clocks, grandfather clocks, alarm clocks… what the feck is a potato clock?”
And Paddy says, “I don’t know, but I start my new job at nine tomorrow, and the wife said ‘You’d better get a potato clock.'”
@Open Letter, it’s those relevant authorities again. You have of course left a name or contact address, or do ” concerned investor group” want to be contacted by BFP?
Bob its an open letter. Who cares who it is from. It makes a very valid point. And given the stupid but expected reaction from HP I am sure all the authorities will be made aware before the weekends out.
Nothing like the Streisand Affect.
Funny how you refuse to answer the question on how you know Newman went to the SFO three times.
So it looks like Fatchett might just have been rumbled. I always wondered why investors had to give up their contracts. So it was to allow 7 capital a client of Fatchett to take on the assets for a song.
Well Fatchett you have some explaining to do. Financiers seeking to enforce contracts.
It seems you have tried to frighten investors into giving up their contracts. You are scum. No better then Ames.
Wonder what else you know but are not telling. You lied about stat demands, where is the due diligence, and who else do you represent. If you live by the sword my friend be prepared to die by the sword.
And your friendship with Ames may just mean that your career is cut short.
Sad to see the end of a promising career of a young man derailed by coming into contact with DA.The man is Toxic!
@Anon, yes it is funny isn’t it. Need to know basis. Just the same as Anon 1 not saying how DA has breached a Tomlin Order. Or which witnesses have been intimidated
Erica / Step / Paddy – have the weekend off.
What will be , will be.
I have been informed of some rather worrying news.
Robert Ladel from the PHIG is trying to derail the Trust & been having some rather strange meetings.
What he don’t know that ‘We’ have certain obligations to each other, hence me knowing about the content.
PHIG:
Would you care to come clean on this matter?
Dave Ames:
Do you have no control?
For the attention of Mr. Gareth Fatchett
C/O Regulatory Legal Solicitors.
CC. XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dear sir, we recently received the trustee pack and your letter enclosed with the pack ref GWF/ Harlequin dated the 28th of October 2013.
We have very serious concerns with the particular section of the letter under the heading “Alternative Course of Action”.
This section is contained on page 5 of the letter issued by RL and Garreth Fatchett.
We are now calling on Mr. Fatchett to clarify the statement contained in the paragraph above.
This section of the letter is wholly miss-leading and investors are urged to seek independent legal advice on the contents of the letter but with specific reference to this section.
Unless RL and Mr. Fatchett clarify the facts in this section, an assumption could be made that RL and Mr. Fatchett are attempting to coerce investors into signing up to the trust.
The following statements are wholly false with respect to all investors with the possible exception of the 100 or so investors who have been invited to close on their properties.
“The alternative course of action is not to engage with the offer being made by Harlequin Property to investors in relation to the creation of an investor trust and the securisation of land assets”.
“This will mean that any third party financier may consider you “Hostile” and likely to take action to enforce your contract.”
The statements are false for the following reasons.
(a). No third party has the right to take an action to enforce your contract with one of the Harlequin entities.
The only time a third party financier could attempt to enforce the contracts is if the Third Party Financiers purchase the assets and liabilities of Harlequin. Then and only then could they attempt to enforce the contracts and in the case of Harlequin this would be the contracts for which the 100 properties are currently ready to be transferred.
But the third party financier in this case would be bound by the terms of the contract, and would have to pay the late completion clause of the contract and also the 10% guaranteed return.
No one with respect to Harlequin, be it third party financiers, or potential purchaser will be legally able to enforce the bulk of the 9000 contracts. 8900 contracts will not be enforced.
They can’t as Harlequin are already in breach of contract with respect to the bulk of them and soon most others will have expired.
The contracts can only become enforceable once the resultant properties associated with these contracts have been completed. The bulk of the 9000 contracts have not been started with only 1% of the properties currently completed and a further 1% at various stages of completion.
Investors are advised in lieu of the above to seek immediate independent legal advice on this and on any further advice being offered by RL and Gareth Fatchett.
We also call upon Gareth Fatchett to formally state if he, RL or anyone connected with them or represented by them is considering an option to buy some or all the assets of Harlequin.
Mr. Fatchett will also need to explain the time bar consequences investors will face when relinquishing their contracts or rights to sue Harlequin.
We reserve our rights in connection with this letter and will forward a more detailed letter to the relevant authorities should RL and or Gareth Fatchett not deal with the matters raised.
Yours sincerely,
They have OCD and it’s not just about eating.
Bob is trying to cobble something together with IFA’s and Agents.
He’s not going to succeed as RL / DA have already done a deal. End of
Having a pie fest with Paddy 😉
We want answers, why is Fatchett telling us we must give up our contracts, and why did he say financiers would come after us if we did not sign up to the trust.
A non Mason not a chance
These lot have not idea what’s going on!! Good for a laugh.
Bob How is your mate doing with Life time SIPP?
That’s Pervy Bob Lad del
The deals are done, end of story
Tim Huges Andy Reese ring any bells?
Should I go on?……
Declan Ashley?
Mr. Fatchett has given investors the distinct impression that they would be chased down by financiers if they did not sign up to the trust, he is demonstrating duplicity here and strong bias towards the Ames family whilst attempting to coerce investors into signing up to a trust.
He claims that he will have all due diligence carried out into Harlequin within a month?????? A fete no one has been able to execute in 7 years. If investors truly believe that Fatchett has their interests at heart the very deliberate attempt at coercion below makes it very clear that Fatchett is willing to walk investors blindly into a trust in which investors will gain no benefit. This is hugely apparent from the reaction by Harlequin to the latest posts.
It is time Mr. Fatchett stood up and explained his actions.
For the attention of Mr. Gareth Fatchett
C/O Regulatory Legal Solicitors.
CC. XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Dear sir, we recently received the trustee pack and your letter enclosed with the pack ref GWF/ Harlequin dated the 28th of October 2013.
We have very serious concerns with the particular section of the letter under the heading “Alternative Course of Action”.
This section is contained on page 5 of the letter issued by RL and Garreth Fatchett.
We are now calling on Mr. Fatchett to clarify the statement contained in the paragraph above.
This section of the letter is wholly miss-leading and investors are urged to seek independent legal advice on the contents of the letter but with specific reference to this section.
Unless RL and Mr. Fatchett clarify the facts in this section, an assumption could be made that RL and Mr. Fatchett are attempting to coerce investors into signing up to the trust.
The following statements are wholly false with respect to all investors with the possible exception of the 100 or so investors who have been invited to close on their properties.
“The alternative course of action is not to engage with the offer being made by Harlequin Property to investors in relation to the creation of an investor trust and the securisation of land assets”.
“This will mean that any third party financier may consider you “Hostile” and likely to take action to enforce your contract.”
The statements are false for the following reasons.
(a). No third party has the right to take an action to enforce your contract with one of the Harlequin entities.
The only time a third party financier could attempt to enforce the contracts is if the Third Party Financiers purchase the assets and liabilities of Harlequin. Then and only then could they attempt to enforce the contracts and in the case of Harlequin this would be the contracts for which the 100 properties are currently ready to be transferred.
But the third party financier in this case would be bound by the terms of the contract, and would have to pay the late completion clause of the contract and also the 10% guaranteed return.
No one with respect to Harlequin, be it third party financiers, or potential purchaser will be legally able to enforce the bulk of the 9000 contracts. 8900 contracts will not be enforced.
They can’t as Harlequin are already in breach of contract with respect to the bulk of them and soon most others will have expired.
The contracts can only become enforceable once the resultant properties associated with these contracts have been completed. The bulk of the 9000 contracts have not been started with only 1% of the properties currently completed and a further 1% at various stages of completion.
Investors are advised in lieu of the above to seek immediate independent legal advice on this and on any further advice being offered by RL and Gareth Fatchett.
We also call upon Gareth Fatchett to formally state if he, RL or anyone connected with them or represented by them is considering an option to buy some or all the assets of Harlequin.
Mr. Fatchett will also need to explain the time bar consequences investors will face when relinquishing their contracts or rights to sue Harlequin.
We reserve our rights in connection with this letter and will forward a more detailed letter to the relevant authorities should RL and or Gareth Fatchett not deal with the matters raised.
Yours sincerely,
Concerned Investor Group.
@ Tubal Cain You have no idea either my friend and watching Fatchett help that common thief Ames and his wife gloat is disgusting. Scum, lying thieving scum.
It is not funny for 7000 investors. Harlequin management greedy lying thieving scum.
Is everyone of the “concerned investor group” going to post this open letter? Which one would you like GF to reply to or are there more to come? This could be a long monotonous night. Come on Paddy get some co ordination going.
Bob, there is no real need to concern yourself with matters that are beyond your intellectual abilities to understand. I am sure Fatchett will attempt a rebuttal of sorts against the exposure he has been confronted with this evening.
Now when your IPAD pings you this evening with a notification that a new post has appeared on BFP, consider ignoring it for a change, take the weekend off to contemplate what a moronic idiot you really are.
I am sure GF would prefer if you left this little issue for him to deal with.
Now as you have been given a gypsies warning by the SFO, which you will deny, there is no need to explain why Joe told you about Mr. Newman.
Because he didnt, Mr. Ames told you. Mr.Ames tells you everything that he wants known because Mr. Ames knows you will fight his corner no matter what. Because he understands like everyone else on here and the RL site that you are the village idiot.
I have read the letter. It does not say that.
It says the financier would deem you (the investor) “hostile” and likely to enforce your contract. This is not the same thing as a financier looking to enforce your contract.
You do twist things. Have you nothing better to do ?
I will call GF’s colleague and ask them to clarify this.
Ames has given his trolls sorry senior management the sad news that the kitty is nearly empty. Hence the flurry of activity is now reduced to lunch times and closing time.
Awww, I am sure you guys (Harlequin senior management) can re-emerge like a phoenix from the ashes, and seek out new victims now you have Fatchett on the payroll.
Good news, while calling my RL contact they typed in the clarification.
The mischief makers have gone to a lot of trouble to create a problem which is not there.
Your best bet if you want the trust to fail is to sit back. Investors are not up to the job of saving themselves.
Just sit back !
Oh Bobby, Bobby wakey wakey, RL have responded. Your views on their response to the open letter perhaps. Do you agree with what they have to say?
You lot miss the point.
RL has a track record of winning group legal actions. The SIPP / IFA’s are going to receive claims whatever. Whether it be RL or anyone else.
The irony is that by the trust failing, RL win. Once people face a liquidation, they will have no choice.
If the trust goes ahead then RL will have to see it through properly.
So as said before and I will say again, the real winner for RL are the redress claims.
The trust is pocket change for them. I got their accounts. They make around £1.4m net profit. They have two owners. They have no debt. It is for that reason they can run these projects.
The letter of the 28th is blunt. It is not misleading. It may need some explaining, but it follows everything said at the meetings.
The response (certainly from my contact with RL) has been very good in relation to the trust.
Yes, it is likely that a mixture of Harlequin / Mr O’Halloran / PHIG will try a last minute swerve. To what end ? RL are equally happy whichever way things fall.
Concerned Investor Group –
Who on earth is going to pay more money to get independent advice on the independent advice ?
You really are silly.
Paddy is getting desperate and is deploying any old nonsense.
Let me issue you a tip. Your best bet is Bob from PHIG and the IFA’s / Agents. They’ll learn to Riverdance if you stop the claims.
If you can get them onside and offer a Paddy Plan, they will try to sell it to investors. It won’t work. What it will do is stop the trust.
Moderate investors will be peeved. However, Paddy, you don’t care about them, so everyone is a winner.
The conclusion then is that HP will fail, PHIG will still be mighty cross and will issue 10 more letters and you will get the litigation dropped against you.
RL will get the claims. That matters not as you won’t care about them by then. Gullible spouts.
@anon 9.01 so now you don’t think that Joe told me about Newman. Make your mind up. Did Joe tell me or not? Now it was DA who told me. Sure it wasn’t a leprechaun? When all else fails try the silly name calling. Always a sign that you are losing the argument eh Ralphy et al.
Bob,
Can you speak to Bob PHIG and explain to him that his scheming will mean he ends up crashing HP.
Paddy is irrelevant and you should not really engage with him.
I just saw the video of Padraig. He’s a fat boy, make no mistake.
His girlfriend according to my HP sources was quite nice.
Now he’s got no money, he must have to trade on his looks alone .
He must “surf” the net a lot now.
Who ever it was who wrote the open letter provoked a response from RL.
The question remains unanswered as to how third party financiers could have any influence over enforcing contracts. Unless the third party financiers are looking to buy into Harlequin.
RL will make their money from the redress claims. The insurers will then pursue the various RDC’s and thus cause the collapse of Harlequin.
Ames’s support for the SIPP providers has nothing to do with any future business plans he has with them. Ames is finished. Either the SFO will get him or the FCA. Or those multiple personal actions being taken in the Eastern Caribbean Courts.
Ames’s support for the SIPP providers stems from the provision of false and forged documentation to the SIPP providers as part of the due diligence packs prepared by Harlequin.
Q Wilkins Kennedy. Ames will claim that it was Wilkins Kennedy who provided false and miss leading information to the SIPP’s.
One thing is for sure Ames is finished. And about to become a bankrupt for the third time.
The IP’s will challenge the trust and in all likely hood the trustees will become unsecure creditors possibly without their contracts.
Unless RL and Fatchett are not very careful and it appears they learn very quickly given the very apparent U Turns of the last week, then they too could face potential action from investors who really did not understand the game being played.
RL have clearly stated this week that their work will be done once the trust is set up. Or so they claim. However if RL’s client is this third party financier then they are conflicted, not necessarily from a legal stand point but most certainly from a moral perspective.
There is absolutely no doubt that Fatchett believes most if not all what both Ames and Simon Terry tell him. He has developed a close personal relationship with these two gentlemen, which in itself is a potential conflict of interest. Fatchett will deny this of course.
The losers here will be those left in the trust no matter what else happens.
The Irish builder was on a business class flight to Dubai last week in the company of his very nice x girlfriend and was staying at the Madinat Juimeirah. So much for him being toast.
Anon 10.44 pm – or should I say Pudie.
Your constant misspelling of miss-anythingyoulike is such a give away.
All your rants are just the same old, same old. The usual shit stirring but nothing of substance. Stupid accusations and no proof. You never had any proof. If you had, you’d have produced it in court. You didn’t and got your arse kicked. Suck it up, fatso.
Now please do us all a favour an sod off back to the bogs where you belong.
Spudgun I am not the Irish builder, me and Dave go back a lot further then that. And old Davey boy knows that. And sadly Davey boy knows I will bury him.
Anon 11:02 – As they used to say in old Hollywood, “Sigh, my hero !”
Spudgun and all other Harlequin employees, whats with the obsession with the Irish builder, I have never seen such a fixation by a group of individuals on one person.
Does he bother you all that much. Apparently he does. It might be a miss nomer sorry misnomer to underestimate him. Is that a correct use of miss-nomer in this context, I do not know.
I mean why did Ames spend millions on security protecting himself and his “NICE” wife from the “Toasted” Irish builder. Or had the security more to do with the laundrette being run from the back of the Basildon offices or am I getting confused with the grubby little flat Dan lived in over his wife’s launderette, the flat where Ryan Mackey grew exotic herbal plants.
And why did Ames spend millions on surveilance , sorry I miss spelt or is it miss-spelt or indeed misspelt surveillance of the Irish builder.
Well if he is on this site I am sure he will abide by your request.
I am sure if he had any dirt on Ames he would have given the information to the appropriate authorities, or is that the sole remit of Mr. Newman.
And how do you know it’s the Irish builder on here?
Well whichever or whatever or indeed whoever is on here, one thing is certain, the Irish Builder is causing Ames and his “Nice” wife many sleepless nights, and one has to wonder why?
Oh I was being facetious when referring to Mrs. Ames as nice. She hit every branch of the ugly tree at birth lol and has dis improved or is it disimproved ever since.
She is so nice that shorty stuck her in the attic to scare away the mice.
Yes Pudie. Blah blah blah.
So you diss agree or is it disagree with me on Carol. I do miss her poems do you. Oh and the duck eggs.
Oy vey … The English …love them or I forgot.
Dave and Carol Ames took £400,000,000.00 of money and all Amses do is go on and on and on about a builder in Irland.
Two months ago it was an acountant from London and before that an Ironer from Manchester.
The Ames family have stolen our money and Garet Fatchit wants to save them. Scum dirty scum and thiefs. Thats all they are. I knew Carol in 2004 when they had nothing. I borrowed her money. I never got it back. She is a thief and so is her husband and family.
Dan the son married posh, his wifes family think Dan is to low class for there daughter, and they are right. Matt Ames paid for sex, the big I am. Never faitful to his wife and hated around these parts. The daughter was basicaly prostituted out for money. She hates Australia always crying.
Dave and Matt fell out over money. Everyone nos that here. The father culd not care about Matt only the mother tries to keep the family together.
noone except the criminals who work with them can stand them. And criminals do work with them. Scum the Amses are. Pure scum.
WDIT – Could you possibly be a past employee?
“Trust is earned” do not trust any of em!
I don’t give a toss about the fat Irish builder – just like winding him up and his band of equally fat concubines.
He nicked a few quid so he could get a shag, who could blame him?
Just like Dirty Dave, who was she Misty? Musty?
You mean the air hostess Ames hired to replace Carol as his PA. Then Carol sacked her, because only Carol makes paedo Daves porridge.
Tammy Clifton was the child in question.
That’s the one who used to make Daves ‘Porridge’
Pretty enough lass, but spotty and with dreadful legs. Nicknamed “Tammyflu” if memory serves.
It looks like Bob has dropped a bollock! nasty little man trying to block the trust.
Did Paddy pay him also?
So that little creep in bed with IFA and SIPP companies that have totally robbed us? what is he doing, he just wants to make some money what does he do bet he is another mason, hate them go away leave be alone.hate them all the same
Trust, rescue etc. What a joke. This a ponzi scheme pure and simple, not based on any solid business model. There is nothing to rescue, not sure why people are still living in denial.
Robert Ladell The new Savior for investors !
Don’r think so pervy Bob.
@EB.
Let me make it clear, Robert Ladell in certainly not a Mason.
I’m horrified about the revelations (proof for a change) about PHIG teaming up with some crooks that put us in this position in the first place. They will ruin the Trust.
Appalling people.
Mind you; should not come as a surprise when you consider what some ‘so called’ investors have done for the Irish builder.
The real EB did a deal with Dave on Wednesday 🙂
I know, because I know who got it for her. That’s why she like a church mouse now..
Tammy. Ames. Porridge.
My eyes! There isn’t enough mindbleach in the universe to deal with that image!
Noooooooooooo! quick nosh job under the desk
PHIG have lost the plot been exposed as some sort of splinter group against Reg Legal.
What a bunch of Scrunts
Ames is Clinton.
Bob, you been led down the garden path and into the wood Croft
I did not have sexual relations, my porridge pistol went off too soon.
Breaking News;
The rescue of Harlequin has collapsed.
The love affair between (ir)regulatory legal and Ames collapses due to intervention of the PHIG and the cowardly Liion . They took a Sipp from the devils cup…….
Insider – stop trying to panick people you bullshitter – I have spoked with both DA and GF over the weekend and the trust is coming together well! Why you think it’s funny to worry people?
Your either that fat bog trotter or that pedo looking Newman and his tea bagging partner Bob the PHIG
“the Trust is coming together well” What a complete farce. That a man who has openly taken millions for himself whilst blatantly ignoring his contractual obligations is being discussed as being involved as part of the solution is a clear indication as to how investors were conned in the first place. Never has such stupidity been witnessed on such a mass level. The lawyer in question is either in way over his head or far too close to the perpetrator of this scam for comfort. If you look at the entire business, it has absolutely no chance of doing anything other than lose more and more money, so why this futile strategy one has to wonder?
Can someone post up the “Walton” report?
Picture of Harlequin Investor Group – protecting investors
All,
It is a question which we have been asked. In order for you to understand the magnitude of the task and the type of people Regulatory Legal Solicitors will need to employ to carry it out, please find enclosed our key individuals and the organisations they work for. Between ourselves and the organisations listed below, we are going to provide the advice, drafting and due diligence information for all investors who join us. This is a serious undertaking and the values involved are significant. Therefore, we hope you can see from the size of the team and the organisation we are assembling we are going to do this to the highest standards.
No single investor could afford this process alone. Hence the need for a nominal payment per person who wishes to consider membership of the trust.
It is unbelievable that any investor would rely on their IFA / Agent to give advice or guidance on matters which they are neither insured or authorised to give. We can only seek to persuade people that cutting corners is a very bad idea and will ultimately end in them being prejudiced.
There are some significantly complex issues which have to be dealt with as part of the creation of the trust. Regulatory Legal Solicitors will be instructing the following organisations to assist.
Insolvency Advice – Richard Jones QC – Richard Jones Profile
Trust Advice – Nicola Preston – Nicola Preston Profile
Management of Overseas Project – Olivia Chaffin-Laird Olivia Chaffin-Laird Profile
Redress Claims (SIPP / IFA) – Kit Sorrell – Pannone LLP – Kit Sorrell Profile
•We are also in the process of appointing a surveying / valuing company to give us a value in relation to the land / buildings owned by the various Harlequin overseas companies. We will announce our choice shortly.
•We have also made contacted with lawyers in all the jurisdictions where Harlequin own property. Our team will handle the instructions with them all to ensure we ask the right questions and obtain the right answers for investors to consider.
•As you can see, we have put together a very experienced and capable team. All have significant and relevant experience in both financial services, insolvency and trusts.
•All organisations are going to be instructed and paid for by Regulatory Legal Solicitors. Their client for this purpose will be Regulatory Legal Solicitors on behalf of the investors. The risk sits solely with us.
All organisations are regulated with by the Solicitors Regulation Authority or the Bar Council. All are insured and full authorised.
Conclusion
We have a significant exposure to third party costs in setting up this arrangement. Hence our need to receive commitment from investors. Without it, we are not going to be able to commence our team on this very important task.
We would ask you to contact us with your queries. We are in the office until 8.30pm during this week coming.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Rl legal team, no wonder that scum bag Lion is shitting bricks ;
do you have a Report?
@Robert Laddel
Come clean stop being such two faced toad – say something PHIG!
Or do you only do it for Money?
Anonymous
November 10, 2013 at 1:33 pm
We were at the office of RL the other week and met some the team. What you are saying about the Trust is simply untrue
There must have been thousands of pink little bits of paper around. A very busy office, lovey people.
They were all ever so nice even got a chocolate finger, biscuit and a coffee.
What a cheeky little tw*t Bob Ladell is; RL let him get in front of 1000’s of investors because he claims to be Pro Harlequin and ‘for’ the Trust.
When his end game is cosying up to some little shit called Llion Jones, who want’s to start his own cut price Trust with ifa’s and Sipp providers.
In other words; saving his old wrinkly arse. He has been exposed and now, pathetically trying to say it’s for his clients, what a crock of sh1t.
The questions he asks are commercially sensitive!
Little shit Llion was part of a Pension investment (scam) that was closed down by the FSA, yes they did sign up people for Harlequin.
This little scam was One stop! It’s the usual IFA scam stuff Tailormade or the South.
Llion you have been nobbled.
I am totally disgusted with Mr Fatchett he was promoting Bob Ladell several days ago!
What happened to Due Diligence Mr Fatchett!!
You lie down with a dog and you will get up with fleas!!!
The wheels of the trust are moving. 9000 x £200= £1.8 million. I know this figure won’t be achieved exactly but it shows the power investors have to raise capital, in this case with a fairly modest outlay. In all honesty, investors have been left with no sensible alternative other than to pay the £200 fee. These figures give hope. Imagine what could be achieved once the Ames family have been replaced with rational thinking leadership and investor confidence has been restored.
What will happen, GOH, is that a rational leadership would look at the business. They would scrap Marquis in St Lucia, scrap Merricks and the ones in the Dom Rep. Most likely try to sell Blu for what they can get, sell the planes. They would restructure Buccament Bay so that it stops losing as much as it does. In several years, it may break even or make a modest profit. H Hotel may be worth completing, but not to the specs that were planned. What is likely is that the 200 quid will just give you the chance to prove what many know already, that the business is not worth more than whatever the assets can be liquidated for. Maybe worth spending that money to get that confirmation. The only consolation may be to see the Ames and their co-conspirators behind bars, but investors should be deluded or further misled that the situation is any better than a 10% recovery at best of investment, and if the trust pushes on, may be a little more than 10% but not for several years.
That Fat Northern Woman Erica
Anonymous
November 10, 2013 at 4:10 pm
So Obvious 😉
Hi Irish Fatty.
Anonymous
November 10, 2013 at 6:07 pm
Are you real ?
After the IP’s had their cut , couple of quid maximum left.
Tell me, oh portly potato face, who has the money to disagree with a huge IP firm when it comes to questioning their fees?
We all know that’s a really weak case to argue.
What happened to your meeting in London with a big IP firm back in August?
Bob PHIG and Bob FDNRM have both had cash from Ames to cause trouble, they are both Scum.
Lie with fleas catch a dog.
Lay with Broughton wake up fat
You certainly would not wake up with a erection!
@EB more lies. Why not just make something up to cause trouble.
Bob you have had cash off Ames, why is that a lie?
The last six posts on here are the exact reason that a “trust”
will never work. In fact probably never get off the ground.
@Anon “to cause trouble” ? You are confusing a contractual obligation with a back hander. Also I resent being called scum.
You’re not the only one entitled to contractual payments; Funny how you’re the only the one who received them.
@Anon, what’s “funny” about them. It’s been well documented on here so the matter is now closed
I don’t think the matter is closed. You were paid to act as Harlequin’s propagandist in chief and there is an SFO investigation into Harlequin ongoing. Who knows where that will take us.
Far from closed. Only one person is paid according to contract, out of thousands. That same person is continually protecting and defending Harlequin and disrputing reasoned threads, and that same person has never posted anything of substance. That person is Rob Storey, it is not over.
@Anon it will take “us” nowhere. Perhaps you are not aware with my connection regarding the SFO. Your comments are absurd.
“Perhaps you are not aware with my connection regarding the SFO” (sic). What are you talking about you old fool?
Take time and read the past 4000 posts on two threads. You might learn something. For an old fool it would appear my negotiating skills are better than yours.
FDNRM like Ames you are now firmly in the frame. Your protestations on here are frankly irrelevant.
Much has been going on in the past 48 hrs.
@in the know. “In the frame” what for? Who cares. Where is Anon? Reading back through the last 4000 posts and getting am education on what has gone on in the past? Sorry Anon, I don’t want to be accused of witness intimidation. Lol
God, Booby…you are insufferable !!!
The trust is well and truly over. Bob Storey will continue with his silly posts.
In the know.( in Erica’s fat Bum)
If you think the trust will fail because of the ramblings of a mad man, you are as daft as the rest.
The Trust numbers are already enough
When some one posts a lie “Bob PHIG and Bob FDNRM have both had cash from Ames to cause trouble, they are both Scum.” then they can expect to get some back. If you dont like the answers then dont post rubbish. And thanks TS for that.
TS, Bob Storey has nothing to do with the collapse of the trust. Bob’s problems lie with the false information he provided the authorities, whilst he may have been getting a return of sorts he was one of the few if only one to do so.
Bob will laugh this off, but that is now a common retort from the scum who actively support and condone the fraud perpeptrated by the Ames family.
The trust will fail because the insurers will seek redress from Harlequin for any claims paid out.
They will do so on the basis that the due diligence information provided by Harlequin was in itself false.
Storey and others primary role has been to be as disruptive as possible and Storey’s complicity in this has not gone unnoticed. He will be brought to account for his actions. He like Ames believes he is untouchable and that the internet can be used as a forum in which to make unsubstantiated claims, and attack others with out fear of consequences.
Bob Storey you like Ames are SCUM.
Judging by the manic/chronic constant posts by Bob Storey I have
convinced myself he acted the same way with DA and finally DA
just gave up and started paying him “rent” on his supposed cabana
with the ever-changing number…
@ In the Know. You obviously are NOT in the know. And what false information do you think I supplied the authorities? Has someone told you something? Have you been speaking to Joe? What about the witness intimidation? You really could not make this up. The only thing you “know” about is how to write fiction.
Bob Storey the only individuals selling a cock and bull storey ( pun intended), are you and a few die hard supporters of Harlequin. The trust has failed.
Within 3-4 weeks liquidators will be appointed to HMSSE. In early Jan 2014 liquidators will be appointed to the balance of the Harlequin companies.
You are in the know Bob, hence why you are now firmly in the spot light. Any intelligent human being would begin to look at getting himself some very high quality legal advice.
You have been lying to investors on this and other forums. You knew you could not back up the lies. You are scum Mr. STOREY. SCUM.
@In the know. Hide behind your fictitious ID. A keyboard warrior? No a keyboard coward. Stop your stupid inane comments about legal advice, it’s puerile and lacking intelligence. Crawl back under your rock where you will meet others like you with one brain cell.
Possibly someone in the Islands can answer this question.
Is it possible for a “Trust” to be set-up in the UK that controls
Caribbean country chartered companies after their origin? Do
the individual countries have final say on just who can and cannot
control local companies? Especially when the “Trust” will only
control land and right-of-way on property that may not have been granted
clear title.
back to basic question.has anyone got a figure for the amount of finance to complete on all contracts.figure to include legal ownership of land ,planning and a myriad of local legal hoops to jump through also how much will this finance cost and who will be liable at the end of the day, also i dont know so i ask ,does the trust require 100% of investors to work??
Dear sirs,
We are investors in Harlequin having invested our pension and cash in a properties in the Harlequin Portfolio.
We received our trust packs last week, we were fortunate that we were able to retain independent legal advisers to advise us on the trust.
We have been advised that membership of the trust is fraught with danger. Contrary to what Mr. Fatchett has stated a trust of this nature cannot for legal reasons work in the Dominican Republic.
We have also been advised that as one of our contracts is for a unit although as yet not built at Buccament Bay, we have legal rights under the laws of St. Vincent far greater then those afforded to us in a trust.
We have further been advised that culpability does not just stop with Ames, IFA’s, SIPP providers and or agents. We have been advised that redress could be sought against Pat Cash and Andy Townsend and to a lessor extent Gary Player, given their support and indeed endorsement of the product.
We were given no doubt that should Mr. Fatchett pursue the SIPP providers / IFA’s that the insurers will seek to recoup or mitigate any potential losses by pursuing the individual Harlequin entities. And the mortgage Mr. Fatchett has discussed will be seen as a mortgage of preference with however no legal standing. Leaving trust members as potential unsecured creditors.
The issue of commissions paid in the event that Mr. Fatchett is correct in that 60% of properties were mis-sold was also raised. If the properties were indeed mis-sold as stated by Mr. Fatchett then any commissions paid as a result would have to be paid back including any commissions to HMMSE. Given the sums involved it will be very difficult now for Shipley’s LLP to approve any type of CVA.
Our legal advisor was critical of Mr. Fatchett to the extent that it appeared Mr. Fatchett was attempting to railroad the trust through in the absence of any thorough due diligence.
He was concerned that Mr. Fatchett has been working on the case for nearly a year, but has achieved nothing aside from attempting to induce investors to part with non refundable cash in order to allow him commence a due diligence process.
He was hugely critical of Mr. Fatchett on the issue of Stat demands. A stat demand is not an open ended threat instrument. And stat demands do have to be acted upon within a specific and tight time frame, otherwise the stat demands die.
Our legal advisor was some what bemused by the suggestion that financiers were waiting in the wings to pump money into Harlequin. As he said even if you take out the purchasers who will seek the redress option but allow funding for any redress action directly against Harlequin, the figure required to complete the resorts will be in the region of £700 million pounds.
He stated that no mainstream financier will be willing to risk capital in a company who currently is being investigated for serious criminal fraud, the risk exposure is further compounded by the very real risk that SIPP insurers will come after Ames and Harlequin to mitigate the losses they potentially are facing.
He stated that given that the group of companies were insolvent and had been trading that way for a considerable period of time, main stream financiers would have no real motivation for bailing this private, one shareholder, business out.
He has stated that on doing his own due diligence into the Ames family, they have continued to leave a trail of bad debts in their wake since approx 2003.
To sum up he saw no way in which the trust would do anything to secure our position, on the contrary he felt that given that the trust was based on UK law and not on the laws as pertain to the assets in the different jurisdictions, the trust as proposed would expose us to a far greater risk and result in little to no eventual recovery. He was also concerned that a tax could be imposed on trust members seeking to remove cash as a result of the trust in the future.
Given that no such instrument has been used in the Caribbean in the past, he was most critical of Mr. Fatchett’s time scales as they pertain currently to the legalities of setting up such a trust, where you have a combination of trustees and assets from a whole myriad of different jurisdictions with completely different laws on conveyancing, insolvency and debt issues.
His professional advice was that such a trust could not be established properly within the time frames, a trust of such size and complexity could take years to establish and cost millions, if indeed one was to do this properly.
We as a result will not be joining the trust.
@ The Redmonds – congratulations …you have one hell of a lawyer.
Whatever he was paid for that advise will be more than compensated
for if you follow it. I was once told by a distinguished US Lawyer that
“you don’t pay a lawyer to plead guilty” in the same vein I believe one
should not pay for the above advise and not heed it…..Good Luck!
Wow your “independent legal advisors” were well informed. How much did your “independent legal advisors” charge you for this detailed, and very personal view of GF. If you don’t mind me asking.
@mr and Mrs Redmond. As you are investors are you going to publish this on the RL web site, therefor giving GF the opportunity to answer you points?
Robert – You seem to ignore the detailed and personal view of
an immense failure…..stop being so selective in your comments
Yes, Bob, save it for the judge.
Come on Robert – how does this exonerate DA for being a lying
conman. Address that issue (or will your stipend cease?)
Thank you anonymous she is our daughter and a partner in a top 5 London law firm and we are very proud of her and indeed her husband who also works in the same firm and is a specialist in such matters. Both are great people.
FDNRM we are not clients of Mr. Fatchett, it must be obvious from our post why not. We hold the advise of our daughter and son in law in higher regard then that of Mr. Fatchett for many reasons. So we do not need secondary advice from him on such matters, we have made our decision and we see no reason or need to enter into ridiculous debate on what to us was a very simple decision.
We have posted up what we have been advised for all to see. Feel free to copy and post on the RL site FDNRM. We have made our decisions based on the sound advice we have received, its just a pity we did not seek our daughters advice rather than that of our IFA when originally investing. But hindsight is a wonderful thing.
FDNRM if we had, had to pay for the advice it would not have come cheap, but the best things in life do not come cheap and this includes good practical advice.
Thank you anonymous, our advisors are partners in a top 5 London Law firm. And we are very proud of both of them indeed as they are our daughter and her husband.
FDNRM we are not clients of Mr. Fatchett, and it must be obvious from our previous post why not. We hold the advice of our daughter and son in law in higher regard than that of Mr. Fatchett. So therefore we do not need a second opinion from Mr. Fatchett, we have made our decision and we see no reason why we need to enter into ridiculous debate on the issues surrounding how we came by our advice.
We have posted up the advice we were given, It is up to each individual to decide what they wish to do. FDNRM feel free to copy and post this on the RL website if you so wish.
FDNRM if we had, had to pay for this advice it would not have come cheap, but the best things in life do not come cheap and this includes good solid legal advice.
Our only regret is that we did not seek the advice of our daughter and son in law over that of our IFA when first investing in Harlequin, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
@ the Redmonds – yes you must have a truly amazing lawyer.
It maybe true that the Trust cannot work in the Dominican Republic, although you do not say why, maybe it is because they speak Spanish there and have a completely different legal system, whereas all the other islands where Harlequin chose to operate speak English and have loosely based English (or Canadian) laws regarding insolvency and real estate.
With regard to SVG, I doubt that your lawyer would know very much about how those islands operate unless of course he has previous experience of operating in that locality. Also, I doubt very much that your lawyer could prove culpability as far as celebrity endorsements are concerned unless they could demonstrate deliberate intent to deceive which is highly unlikely.
With regard to Trust members being unsecured creditors, that goes without saying. The Harlequin companies in the Caribbean owe money to employees, contractors, suppliers and Government Departments, under the Laws of the countries involved they will be preferential creditors ahead of the Trust members.
It is amazing that your lawyer was able to ascertain £700 million would be required to complete all the Harlequin resorts. Is he also a Chartered Quantity Surveyor with special information about current Caribbean construction costs? Perhaps he could provide a breakdown for us, i.e. how much per square foot has he allowed in the various Caribbean locations, and what about professional fees, contingency, escalation, infrastructure etc.
I do agree that no financier is likely to touch this company, Trust or no Trust, but you do not need a law degree to work that out. I doubt however that your lawyer would be in a position to comment on the insolvent trading position of the various companies bearing in mind that the accounts and not readily available.
I do agree that your lawyer is right to point out the different laws applicable in the various Caribbean locations that may prevent the Trust from being enforceable in those jurisdictions but I doubt that he has done sufficient research to honestly conclude that no such instrument has been used in the Caribbean in the past (the Caribbean is a big place).
It may well be true that such a Trust could not be established properly within the time frames and that a trust of such size and complexity could take years to establish and cost millions, if done properly. However, it is also true that seizing the assets of the Caribbean companies by those owed millions in the Caribbean is also likely to happen ahead of any worthwhile Trust being formed and if it does there will be little left for the UK investors after the local preferential creditors have rightly received what they are owed.
@ST – a bit of PC please. It was their daughter: definitely a she.
(and they should be justly proud of her)
The real elephant in this room is the corrupt political system
in the Caribbean that gives lip service to law but still maintains very much
a good-old-boy school of justice.
Anonymous – actually ‘he’ is just the shortened version of ‘she’ so they are interchangeable. What corrupt political systems in the Caribbean, surely not more corrupt than the UK or US?
@ST…Yes, in my mind the UK and US suffer a lot of corruption, but
My God, the shenanigans going on in SVG and Barbados are
beyond belief…..simply read the other threads on BFP and those
on IWN-svg. I rest my case!
@ Anonymous, so are you saying that the investors ought never to have invested in that part of the world in the first place because of its inherent corrupt practices, so why did DA tell us that is was a low risk investment?
Because DA is an ass
@Mr& Mrs Redmond, you don’t have to be a client of RL to post your comments, the only criteria is that you are an investor. With that criteria why not post your advice on the RL website? You are very critical of GF. Surely you would want him to have the opportunity to respond. No?
@ST you ask how a UK solicitor can know so much. In the past hour I googled construction costs in the Caribbean. RLB have a document on line called Caribbean intelligence report. It gives construction costs for 5 star hotels.
If we take each unit at being 100 sq mts the avg rate is $2000 USD per sq mt. Ames sold 9000 units according to Fatchett. 9000 units ×100 sqmts x $2000 usd = $1.8 billion USD. Fatchett also said Harlequin had 6,000 plots. Having double sold a further 3000 units.
6000 × 100 × 2000 = $1.2 billion.
50%-60% mis-sold leaving 40%-50%. $480 -$600 million. Or £320-£400 million. Add in mis-sold commissions paid to HMMSE £100 million.= £420-£500 million. Add infrastructure costs, legal costs, closing fees, conveyancing fees, taxes, finance interest payments £25-£50 million pa.
If the Redmonds daughter and husband are partners in a top 5 London Law Firm, then I am sure they would have access to legal knowledge from the Caribbean.
But your final question is bizarre in the context of where we are today. It belies belief that anyone would still take what Dave Ames says at face value. ” So why did Dave Ames tell us it was a low risk investment “, yes why did he, and furthermore who qualified him to give financial advice? Not the UK authorities.
Investing in this region need not be fraught with danger or difficulty. If due dilligence is carried out and a decent lawyer represents you, there is no more risk than anywhere else. I have seen people ripped off (Harlequin for a start) but even a tiny bit of DD would have sent most people running for the hills when it came to the rubbisj they were spouting and people realised how bad the locations were and ridiculous the plans. I have seen people ripped off in other places in the Caribbean too, but almost always their own fault for not being thorough before buying. The difference is here in the Caribbean people don’t get locked up for ripping people off, whereas in the UK and US they tend to. Ames would be staring down the barrel of a 200 year sentence in the US. With that said, Stanford carried out his shenanigans in Antigua but still got busted by the US. Ames most likely will in time suffer a similar fate.
Bob the Redmonds have already stated that they have no wish to engage Fatshitt. So why dont you post it up. Look what Fatshitt did with Cangas post he removed it within minutes and she was an investor.
Or what about the thread about those non SIPP clients, Fatshitt removed all of that. So how long would the Redmonds post last? 60 seconds? 2 minutes?
Dont be such an ass …..
@ Anon – I would hate to think that I would be paying legal fees to someone who just googled Caribbean construction costs and took what they found as red. For one thing DA was not building 5 star hotels he was building resorts which have a much higher cost per square foot as they are generally individual villas spread over larger sites with higher infrastructure costs. You really should not be consulting a UK lawyer about Caribbean development costs, it is not their area of expertise. Due diligence is about more than asking your daughter what she thinks or consulting the internet especially as construction costs vary enormously from island to island depending on availability of resources, local taxation, transportation and shipping costs etc. Consequently it would be grossly misleading to take a cost for one island and use it across all resorts. Anyone who wants to know what is really going on in St Vincent, Barbados, St Lucia and the Dominican Republic should talk to the local consultants and lawyers who operate in those jurisdictions. When Dave Ames first started looking at the Caribbean property market, prices were rising dramatically, therefore you could argue that it was a good location for 5 star resorts and potentially a good investment, not any more though, prices are now way below their 2006 levels and who knows when or if they will recover to previous levels and of course the money received as deposits was never spent on building the resorts was it – but that is another story.
After reading the above I can only say that in my mind unfortunately
the way the lower Antilles are going is some sort of modern day
“socialismo por todos” . In reality capitalism doesn’t fit.
@ST – I really don’t know why we seem to be at loggerheads.
It could never be reasonably argued that Buccama was a good location for a large 5 star resort. Marquis Estate is a terrible site (east coast, no infrastructure, barely any beach), Merricks a real challenge to market and sell to the travel industry, and the sites in the Dom Rep are also crazy for such an inexperienced developer where the real big boys operate. His plan was not researched and was quite simply terrible and guesswork. It was clear his plan was all about sales and commissions rather than the bigger picture of operating profits and so on.
US$200 per square foot is on the low side for high end, but I think the comments are reasonable by the Redmonds – I think their daughter was advising them based on what she could work out and she is in the ballpark and the decision taken therefore is based on reasonable arguments. As to insolvency, it is common knowledge in the Caribbean that Harlequin are not paying their bills, either because they cannot or choose not to (it is common knowledge in this region that BB is really struggling, which is sad but just not a well conceived product and badly managed)
Prices are generally well below the heights as stated above, but with that said, prime stuff has recovered quite well in some of the islands and are getting prices almost where they were, but only if very well managed and built. I doubt it will get back to where it was any time soon in terms of volume combined with price, but the good stuff still moves.
Don’t think anyone is at loggerheads in last several posts, sounds like reasoned commentary, a relief from the pointless name calling and meaningless posts that often dominate.
Mr. and Mrs. J Redmomd
You are full of shit, we know you are Paddy the Pot Licker
@Mr. and Mrs. J Redmomd
You went to such detail on a anonymous blog, and you are so proud an all why not name them.
Paddy you are a real wanker
@Mr & Mrs Redmond, if you daughter was such a font of knowledge and was able to give such an informed opinion, one has to wonder why she was not consulted before you made the investment.
@Anon, as I said, you only need to be an investor to join the RL site. Which then begs the question on whether Mr & Mrs R are genuine investors.
I was just about to ask that very question Bob!
I think we all know why don’t we Paddy……
We invested in 2007 whilst our daughter was still at school.
Mr. and Mrs. J Redmond
Of course, of course, Paddy. ooops sorry Mr. and Mrs. J Redmond 😉
Going from school to a partner in a top 5 law firm in 6 years. Wow that is some career progression. Normal training to become a solicitor takes 6/7 years in England. You must be very proud.
A child prodigy no less!!!
Who’s writing Bob36’s posts this morning or did he swallow a dictionary for breakfast?
No, he is just on form.My hero 😉
E I Bobbio our man dans le pissoir with the Lidl wine box of Chateau Wifebeater, the well thumbed copy of Forbes Mistakes in Investment and the Casio calculator, given away free with four gallons of four star in 1975. The sage of Nuneaton, confidant of the SFO and Mr Ames lap dog.
some hero
@Anon Aldi.
@FDNRM
You little fibber you told me Blue Nun when you grooming me
Bob, you seem to have gone full circle with Fatchett. It sounds like you’re now one of Gareth’s Groupies?
Many have changed Sid, who would have thought that RL and HP could be in the same room a few months ago?
Maybe Paddy will get all cosy with DA 😉
Now Erica has been paid out maybe she will too.
Has she?
Yep, done a deal with Ames direct.
Bully for her !!!
Could not resist that; to prove a point e.g. Mr. and Mrs. J Redmond
The fakes.
She got her money back from Paddy.
@FDNRM
Come on Bob, your due for a name change 😉 if GF going to represent you?
Erica got her money back from the builder? Why would he pay her? I believe Erica was one of Croziers 13. Have they been paid as well?
Think someone is pulling our leg Sid
A special request for Bob Ladell
Bob Snake has been sacked by Dave Ames.
He has gone too far this time.
@Reptilian Bob …… takes me back to the days of wigan casino … many thanks.
‘Bob Snake has been sacked by Dave Ames.
He has gone too far this time.’
Are they all called Bob?
I was wondering where the gobshite mouthpeice Bobby 3.4cms was ? Probably ‘legless’ on the Lidl brew. Don’t worry Bob, the Nuneaton Lidl is open until 8pm tonight. You can always get some more. Then come back here and entertain us with your rantings. No? Oh go on we love laughing at them.
@S&L ALDI! It’s open to 9.
Bob
You’ll be pissed by ten then. Bring it on you silly old fool.
No chance, off down the quiz. Conversations with real people with real names, not cyber bullies who hide behind false IDs who would get a smack if they tried some of the silly comments on here.
every poster on one side is said to be called Bob.the other side are said to be an irish builder ,why is this?why cant they be genuine people?
Good God, Boring Bob FDNRM knows people with real names?
Put him up for questions about financial investment, Caribbean history and Irish current affairs. LOL!
He’ll be pissed and talking stupid by midnight when he’ll back here trolling for Basildon?
Not if you are still on here I wont. Are S &A/L Keyboard warriors or keyboard trolls? Thats a no brainer for you pair of no marks.
@Gareths Groupies
never knew it had a Casino!
Bob PHIG are you still alive? Or have you become extinct?
SIPPs
We have posted the letter from Guardian and our response. We have also sent a copy of the two letters to all the other major SIPP providers.
There is nothing incompatible with the rights of the SIPP in assisting the investor trust. We hope that common sense prevails and an accord can be found. Please take time to review our response. The documents are on the home page of the site.
Agents
Unfortunately, we have had to go to High Court today to seek an injunction to prevent what we believe to be defamatory statements by one major agent about us. The injunction was granted to us.
Suffice to say, we will not stand idly by and be attacked . We understand why some agents do not like the “redress” option. However, attacking us with the sole purpose of discouraging investors to consider their rights is simply not on. We have seen numerous examples of the “do nothing” communication. If this continues, certain agents / IFAs will be the reason the trust does not get off the ground.
We have no problem answering questions and dealing with queries. We have dealt with the SIPP providers queries, we will also deal with the agents / IFA queries. The same applies to investors.
Conclusion
We are working hard behind the scenes to make this work for investors. We understand the concern about the “redress” option. However, we are not acting for the agents / IFAs or SIPP. Therefore, to be blunt, this is not our concern.
Focus on yourself as an investor. After all, this is designed to protect your interests.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Mr. and Mrs. J Redmomd
November 11, 2013 at 9:27 pm aka thick Irish Twat fuck off
Whoever the Redmonds happen to be it doesn’t matter.
There was so much common sense and basic logic in what they
wrote. Their post should be carefully considered.
The old injunction ! how’s on the receiving end of that one ?
The Redmonds are made up. Most HP investors are too thick to instruct lawyers.
Question: If the number of investors who do not join the trust is
(arbitrarily) 1000, won’t whoever re-finances have to satisfy whatever
outstanding liens, debts or judgements that they have. Would it be
smarter to be one of those (arbitrary) 1000 and be paid in full?
@reptilian bob – it was called a casino but it was really an all night northern soul dance venue , seven inch wedges and 36inch flared trousers and that was just the fellas.. ….. Thanks for the memory
“Gareth’s Groupies
November 12, 2013 at 9:41 pm”
Oh for Christ’s sake fuck off. You are boring beyond belief. Some of us live in Barbados, and we don’t give a shit about your really bad investment decisions. You made the decisions. Can’t you just deal with the consequences of your choices without being boring beyond redemption?
JB – It is wonderful to read someone with such a grasp
of the Queen’s English….more, more, more !
@Jack Bowman
Go and Rob a tourist you arrogant prick,
Mr. and Mrs. J Redmond
Maybe you could ask your daughter to get Sneaky Bob out of his embarrassing predicament? 🙂
@Jack Bowman I am completely happy with the decision taken to appoint Gareth and very unhappy about my decison to trust Harlequin /Dave Ames.
I am totally unconcerned you find me boring may I suggest you crawl back in your shack.
TailMade – So, there is a God after £500,000 damaged claim from RL
Made my day!
Alistair must be mincing around whilst Rob Shaw pulls whats left of his hair!
How odd. A Mr. and Mrs. RedmoMd post twice, then a 3rd post appears from a Mr. and Mrs. RedmoNd saying they invested in 2007 when their daughter was still at school. Then we had Bob and Co. jumping all over the original post.
RedmoMd is not RedmoNd Bob you fool. And the RedmoMd’s made very valid points.
Bob also took offence to the fact that the RemoMd’s chose not to post on Fatchett’s site, maybe they like me find the advice being given by Fatchett as highly questionable.
Fatchett stated in a letter on his website that he is precluded by an NDA from naming the new financiers. Can Fatchett answer the following question. ? Are 7 capital his clients and have they expressed an interest in acquiring the assets of Harlequin?
If he cannot name the financiers can he give a ball park figure for the amount being invested?
And can he answer a question being asked by many who are contemplating joining the trust, are the Ames family going to continue to maintain control of the Harlequin Group.
There are many other questions I have and will ask them later.
The “Remomds” made some excellent points, why every time someone makes a reasonable and valid point do the Harlequin supporters attack the Irish Builder.
I am now totally convinced that Ames is a deluded little conman who occupies his time by worrying about what the Irish Builder might have on him. And hoping that the Irish builder might show his cards on this blog.
Is the Irish builder the only one with the dirt on Ames the conman. I dont think so.
Bob have the SFO dropped their investigation? Its now 13 days since the mediation. Yet Harlequin remain on the SFO site.
Ames and his Wife are both con artists. They took 400 million, bought properties in the UK, properties in Dubai, properties in the UK.
Paul Walton claimed previously that Ames told him that Buccament Bay was making a profit. Fatchett claims Ames has no money.
Where is the report on Buccament Bay commissioned by Garreth Fatchett. ?
Where are the Stat Demands?
Will Fatchett enforce the Stat Demands if the trust fails?
Would Fatchett consider dropping the redress claims against the SIPP’s if that would help the trust and thus investors?
If not why not?
@Anon 4.44 If all you can come up with is the incorrect spelling of someones name you need to get a life Ralph. Remember DEFAMATION Same style, same stupidity Paddy.
Now do you know the meaning of NDA, does that mean NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. Now if you knew that then you would realize your question “Can Fatchett answer the following question. ? Are 7 capital his clients and have they expressed an interest in acquiring the assets of Harlequin?” is a really stupid one.
“Bob also took offence to the fact that the RemoMd’s chose not to post on Fatchetts site” That is ReDmomds you thick t**t. No I did not. Not only is your spelling S**TE but you cannot even understand the content of my previous post.
Re the SFO, ask them yourself, I could give you a contact name, but you would only misspell it. Perhaps his name was Tomlin.
Oh go on then Bob Storey, please give us a contact name at the SFO! Most of us can read and write, so don’t worry your little head about the correct spelling.
This link is from today’s Serious Fraud Office (SFO) website:
‘Anyone who believes that they have information which may be useful to this investigation can contact the SFO case team at’:
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress/harlequin-property.aspx
Why do you need a name? You have a link to the SFO so if you have something to add then just contact them. Of course that is the question, ” if you have something to add” What an idiot. Run along now and mind how you go.
But Bobby you said:
“I could give you a contact name, but you would only misspell it.”
Why can’t you give us that person’s name? You know, the one at the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) whom you have continually referred to and implied that you have a close relationship with.
The name is ……..eh………..ah, forgotten. That’s the problem being an ” old fool” lol. You will just have to keep guessing. Or just phone them up. I assume they take calls because they have always called me.
We cannot tell you who we do or do not act for.
What we can say is that we do not act for Harlequin or any of the potential financiers.
As for our tactics and approach, surely it would be unwise to disclose them on such a forum as this.
RLS – and I suppose your forum is superior although it is my idea
of what a roomful of Scientologists would sound like…..brainwashed,
stubborn lost-souls.
FDNRM ” The name is ……..eh………..ah, forgotten. That’s the problem being an ” old fool” lol. ”
No Bob, the problem is that you have continually deceived people here with lies and innuendo. You may be ‘laughing out loud’ but we are not. Most of us don’t find it remotely funny.
Let me remind you Bob, you said:
“I could give you a contact name [at the SFO], but you would only misspell it.” “I assume they take calls because they have always called me.”
All,
I wonder why Bob can’t give us that person’s name? Is that because he has lied about his supposed close association with the SFO and made it up?
“Brainwashed stubborn lost-souls” sort of Anonymous then.
Bob – Quick hook up your e-meter, breathe deeply and thank
L.Ron H. for your glorious life……..
@BD careful what you say. This could be construed as witness intimidation. I have never lied to anyone on here. If you had been around long enough on this forum, which I doubt, then at the beginning of this year I proved everyone wrong when I was doubted. Cost someone £100. But why should I prove anything to you, who hides behind an anonymous ID. Try to think up some more lies.
You still have not proven to anyone that you have clear title to
a cabana. Basically what you have is a chit.
Dear Sirs, this is our third post on this site. We shared the advice we received from our daughter and her husband for all to see. Our daughter is in her mid forties, we are pensioners who were conned into this investment by Harlequin and an agent of theirs.
We did not seek the advice of our daughter from the outset because we like thousands of others believed the letters from our agents and Harlequin including letters from Harlequin solicitors in the Caribbean. Letters that sadly have been proved to be untrue.
We are not the builder, accountants or members of any clandestine group with a mission to bring down Mr. Ames.
We are pensioners who only want to get our money back so we can at least have some peaceful happy times in our remaining days.
We hoped our post would have helped many in a similar position to our selves.
Many of the Harlequin supporters should be ashamed and disgusted by their cavalier attitude towards the many thousands of real investors who as a result of the absolute gross mismanagement by Harlequin and the Ames family have lost most if not everything.
Our losses are down to the senior management of Harlequin and the Ames family.
No one else but Harlequin, our agent and the Ames family enticed us to purchase using false documentation and bare faced lies. No one.
There are some on here who just need to grow up and shut up. Their attempts at defending Mr. Ames and Harlequin by exposing them as being inept at managing our money by blaming anyone and everyone else for their criminality. If indeed the builder caused the collapse of Harlequin or so affected their ability to trade, why did Mr. Ames continue to sell property after mid 2010. Indeed Mr.Ames sold property in Jamaica subsequent to his problems with the builder coming to light, selling property again on land he did not own.
It is time we all realised that Harlequin and the Ames family could never have delivered what they promised and we now hope the authorities will prosecute the Ames family and all the others who profited from this scam.
Some food for thought:
In 2008 Petite Nevis was on the market for $US 15,000,000. If Ames
bought it for 50% of that figure that is still $US 7,500,000. Could it
be auctioned for something close to that and the monies gained be
used to do a full audited accounting of Harlequin form the from the
beginning? Who really owns it : (1) an SVG company or (2) Ames
personally. Either way the money came from investors. People on
here need to accept the fact that Harlequin as a business concept
is fatally flawed. Once that fact has been accepted – GO AFTER
AMES WITH EVERY LEGAL BIT OF AMMUNITION AVAILABLE.
This also holds for the HHotel. Who actually owns it?
There is no way pensioners would post on here.
Why would you ?
Nathan,
This site is for fantasy island dwellers. It is for those who cannot influence matters but like a good troll.
The site gets less than 30 posts per day which is shared between 3/4 people. No one cares now.
There is nothing going on here.
Dear Al & Rob,
Do you have anything to give in the cause of charity ?
For the attn. of Mr. Garreth Fatchett.
C/O Regulatory Legal Solicitors.
Dear sir, this evening we received an email from the HIG and RL asking investors to fill out a form to indicate to you the level of interest in the trust.
This followed on from communication from your offices regarding a court action taken in Birmingham yesterday by your firm.
Tonight we have received an email from Harlequin asking investors to return the pink forms directly to them if they are unhappy to return them to RL.
We are also being told by Harlequin that they are seeking further information from you RL as to the necessity for paying the £200+ vat. And Harlequin are asking investors to return the pink slips to them without paying the cash.
It is time that you Garreth Fatchett called a halt to this absolute absurd nonsense.
You appear to have lost control of the situation. You have given investors a clear and distinct impression that you and RL were spear heading the trust for investors, you also claim that you do not act in any capacity for Harlequin or the Ames family.
As a result of the way that issues surrounding the establishment of the trust have descended into pure farce, it is time that you and RL made a clear and unequivocal statement as to the trust and as to the email tonight from Harlequin.
We await your response on this issue.
Concerned Investor Group.
Wow, Open Letter – At least some investors are parsing the
duplicitous information that is flying about. As for me, I am
dubious about anything and everything and wish I had the
resources to attack HD with everything I’ve got.
If the RL fee is £200 + VAT to set-up the trust and draft Trust contracts for trustees (former investors), then what portion of that is refunded if the trust doesn’t go ahead?
Prospective trustees won’t be expected to pay for the initial mailshot, surely, as that is an RL marketing expense, is it not?
I think it is reasonable that those investors who were willing to ‘take a punt’ on the Trust, and therefore pay full fee up front, should be expected to pay some of RL’s costs incurred trying to set it up for them.
What is it fair to pay if the Trust can’t go ahead due to lack of interest? Have RL given any indication? Of course, they won’t be retaining the full Trust fee paid up front, will they, as the work will not have been carried out in full.
You may be better of pooling funds to set up a legal team specifically to go after all the Harlequin and Ames assets, get cautions against them and work to bring charges against Ames himself. The idea of 7000 people forming a trust and trying to salvage what is clearly a business that was not designed to make profit but to make commissions is too far fetched for sensible people to sign up to. The business as is can and never will get you a return.
Anonymous 11:07 – All would absolutely be better off.
Well, if it was me, I’d be collating all the info I had from the time I was colluded into investing to use in a claim for misrepresentation and I’d be going for the IFA and Ames / Harlequin / Wooller and all the other senior sales staff simultaneously. And how could I forget Simon Terry!
But from what I can understand, investors just want to be led by the hand blindly. Lack of funds is a major factor of course. But I’d do some learnin’ and take it to court myself. Anyway, enough about me and what I would have done. I’m just trying to get the RL fee issue clarified to allay some fears about what may be the best option for investors who have no hope of getting their investment back.
Can RL please clarify what portion of the up front fee will be refunded to punters if the trust doesn’t go ahead?
It’s very simple to find out any matter on net as compared to textbooks, as I found this
post at this web page.
@Anon RU of course if you were an investor you could register on the RL web site and all your questions would be answered. As you are not what has it got to do with you?
Fatchett does not represent me. but you seem to be representing him.
What a conflicted torn soul you must be…
Paddy your ramblings are of someone truly panicking.
@Anon – reasons unknown
Try calling them you plonker
@ Open Letter
That is a lie Paddy.real gutter stuff now eh?
FDNRM, “As you are not [an investor] what has it got to do with you?” as you so rudely assert.
Thousands of people’s lives and their environment have been badly affected by the actions of Harlequin and the Ames family; not just those of the investors and they have as much right to speak out as you do Bob Storey.
@SFaB I suggest you read Annon RU posts. He is asking about the cost of mail shots, investor contributions to RL, what is fair to pay out if the trust does not go ahead? These are questions which have been asked, and answered on the RL site and are relevant to investors and no one else. Thats not rude, its fact.
It’s rude!
Its not only rude it is neocolonialist – in the sense that “I can use
my money to effect you however I want and you have absolutely
no business questioning anything I do” The Caribbean will be
much better off without the likes of Mr. Bob Storey…….
Neocolonialist? WTF Guess you will playing the race card next.
You’ve already played it Bob!
Has Erica Broughton been swimming again?
No chance of you swimming is there TS ? SHIT DOESNT FLOAT , and I so wouldnt want to loose you ……………………………….
Concerned Investor Group – why not approach RL properly ?
BFP is not the right place.
Lost me Taffy???
Were we lead to believe that the trust was to be independent of Harlequin and the Ames family??????????????
Was the trust not supposed to protect the interests of investors????????????????
Was this protection not required because of the problems surrounding Harlequin???????????
So why is the trust now apparently being pushed onto investors by Harlequin????????????
Surely given the Ames’s unequivocal support for the trust the Trust itself needs now to be questioned.
Ames tells us in his latest email to investors that the trust is to cover the ” COMMON ” parts of Buccament Bay. This is not what RL had been stating.
Have RL capitulated to Harlequin.???????????????
And why the continued fixation on the Irish builder????????????????
And what is investors protection if and when the authorities move??????????
They have the fervor of the newly converted in a sham religion.
The Trust is nothing more than a feel-good diversion which gives
Ames three precious years to roam free. What in heaven’s name
is wrong with the UK legal system.
Freedom is coming to Mr Ames.
Nothing at all wrong with the legal system , just some of servants are a little dodgy maybe ??
Anon 10:34
Admittedly I get a bit almost but-not-quite over the top. But (and this
is a big BUT): I don’t understand why a young politico aspirant in SVG
and just a bit to a lessor degree in BGI does not seize on this
Harlequin disaster (for the Islands and for the mostly innocent investors)
as a political issue. This said, it does not even begin to approach
the opportunity that some up and coming Labor MP could really
make his/her name over. After all after reading about this mess for months,
it is lower middle class workers who in the majority are being robbed
of their pensions. Also of their hopes and aspirations. Come on
legal systems.
Has the Snake Bob Liddell scuppred the Trust?
They are just as NASTY to Erica on the RL blog as they are on this
with the exception NO BODY PARTS ARE EVER MENTIONED. I
personally think that Erica has been a pretty good motivator. At
least for me.
What do you expect? Just when things are going well up pops fatty Broughton, how many people has she fell out with? How many stupid questions?
Plus lets not forget her relationship with the Irish builder.
All,
We have held a directors meeting this evening. Having listened to the feedback of investors and by way of addition to our letter of the 28th October 2013.
1. We will undertake the preparatory work for the Investor Trust to the end of November 2013. The cost of this will not be borne by investors. It will be borne by RL.
2. We will look at the position at the end of November 2013. Prior to that time we will do two things :-
(i) we will hold those monies already banked on our client account
(ii) we will not bank any further monies. All monies sent to us will be held securely.
3. We will not formally commence work until the start of December 2013 (which pre-supposes) that the level of support is in place for us to undertake the project properly. Therefore, until we notify investors, the monies will be refunded by us if the support is not in place. Support is building nicely. However, if we had received all the commitments made to our team by phone, we would already be underway.
4. We feel that 1 month is adequate time for all queries to be dealt with, hardship cases to be addressed and a decision to be made. Beyond that time we can only conclude that either :-
(a) people do not support the Investor Trust proposal or;
(b) people are not prepared to fund the protection of their own position.
The current position is that support to date has been satisfactory and in line with what we expected. We have spoken with investors who on our rough and ready figures would give us over 50% of people by number of contracts issued. We have little doubt that now the refund “issue” is removed investors will commit in greater numbers.
We have no doubt that after we start people will then rush to join. This is human nature and understandable. Our only comment is that the stakes for investors are too high to play this type of brinkmanship. We need the commitment during November 2013. December is a bad month to run projects due to the Christmas break.
Therefore, with our commitment to run the preparatory work at RL’s cost, we urge you to meet us half way and make a decision during November 2013. We do not think we can be any fairer than that.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
This may upset some people but I don’t give a shit about the Irish builder or Ames providing I don’t lose my investment.
I don’t give a toss as long as I am OK
Looks like Reg Legal have said two weeks for the Trust ,yes or no.
Ironic that someone who claimed to be Pro Harlequin – Bob Ladell could actually achieve something O’ Halloran has been trying for years.
The downfall of Harlequin.
I hope not.
Harlequin Advisers face Jail?
http://m.citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/two-banned-ifas-jailed-over-unauthorised-advice/a717471
But Alistair like it!
http://www.ifaonline.co.uk/ifaonline/news/2307196/law-firm-sues-harlequin-agent-over-defamatory-statements
Today we the workers were told that the Buccama Bay will close after Christmas. We were told we must not announce this cause if we do we wont get paid for Christmas.
So its finally over.
Who told you?
Its confirmed. Came from Dave Ames through Michael Ibrahim. Some staff have received half pay others nothing.
Ames promised work would restart in October. Has not happened. Creditors now moving on Buccament Bay.
Ames says trust will fail because of threat from RL to pursue IFA’s and SIPP providers. Staff were told RL to blame for closure.
But as they say the proof is in the pudding. Only 6 weeks to wait to see if Buccament Bay closes.
Fatchett has said he has seen a letter of commitment to fund Harlequin to the tune of £80 million.
Wonder will Ames use these funds to assist purchasers in financial trouble or is this letter real????????
There’s a thirty per cent discount over Christmas at Buccament.
The Basildon trolls have been quiet today. Something’s afoot?
Without daily maintenance Buccament will be a mold & mildew
pit within 90 days
Once BB closes and there is nothing to salvage…….will the SFO swoop and round the crooked Ames family?
Looks like Bobby Bellboy’s little earner is coming to an end…..”would you like fries with that” is calling
Doubt you can believe all you hear, but a staff member told me today they have not been paid for over a month. The hotel loses massive amounts, all investor money from other resorts has been used to date to cover those losses, but now there is no money then….I guess no choice but to close. MAybe Ames wants to take Xmas revenues for himself? Word is Ames apparently is making sure he has his own pocket still lined, won’t put his own money in that he stole. Blaming others as usual. Matt Ames viewed as a mixture of satan and a clown. Really leaving a good impression on SVG and other islands.
Buccament resort, as well as other resorts in the region has a huge turnover from 21st of December to 10th of January. Mr Ames must do whatever it takes to stay open until then, as a few million EC$ will be generated to his travel agency. The question is whether funds will be used locally to pay staff, suppliers and utilities. Be aware of a potential crash of their business model after 10th of January when the season drops to very low occupancy. No wonder RL wants the trust to be up and running before January. My advice for Investors who wants to join the trust is to wait until mid January, it will help you to see the real picture before committing to the trust which as of my opinion is a waste of time.
Concerned citizen
Concerned O’Citizen,
You mean until investors all lose out and Paddy picks up ?
What is the obsession with the Irish Builder? He is a very small player in this. The model/scam was in full flow before he arrived on the scene. The bigger picture is can the resort make money, can Blu make money, can the other resorts be built profitably and then run profitably. Does therefore the trust make any sense. The concern with the Irish builder is baffling. His case is on appeal, who knows how long that will drag on for. You cannot plan a business around litigation proceedings, and the sums in question are miniscule on the grand scheme – US$13m is not going to do a lot for Harlequin’s outrageously large liabilities. If Harlequin fails, it is because of Ames, noone else. It of course is clear to all it already has failed because of Ames. The trust, as laid out, will first ascertain exactly what the damage is and at that point most likely will realise it is beyond salvation. The financing thing is a red herring – it cannot be financed without audited accounts, whilst criminal investigations are ongoing, profits are non existent and with such huge liabilities. Change those, finance may be an option, if any of those factors remain (liabilities simply have to remain until either investors are paid back or have units built) then there is just no chance of finance.
The end of Buccama Bay aks concerned Erica.
All lies you just worried the trust is working.
BB is not closing that’s just very silly
Vested interest
I think you are totally wrong, why would Paddy the Irish builder be interested in a sinking ship, don’t you think he have enough of his shoulders. There are new and more profitable cons out in the world.
BB cannot sustain with present management, simple fact of life. Never mind the trust or nu trust. Electricity bill alone close in excess of 100 000 US$ per month and no occupancy, the days are counted.
Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen
People have been posting for months how BB is going to close. Some hotels even close up in the slack months. But guess what BB still open, still trading. Now they are getting into the busy season with strong revenue streams. All the doubters have been proved wrong, and will continue to be proved wrong. The above posts are just scare mongering for the sake of it.
So Mr Inside Info…..where is your proof. I’d love to see a P&L.
If a Trust is actually set-up will Ames have to supply it with
a monthly accounting? This should prove fascinating if so.
It will be available to the Trustees
@Anon 1.51 “where is your proof”? Has the hotel closed at any point? No. Is there any proof it is going to close? No. Those facts cannot be doubted. You don’t need inside info to see that.
‘Has the hotel closed at any point?’
BB couldn’t pay their electricity bill a couple of months ago and got cut off. The staff regularly don’t have their wages paid on time. I’d say that’s pretty close to the wind and a fine example of crisis management.
‘Now they are getting into the busy season with strong revenue streams.’
If it is full for Christmas why is HP offering 30% discount?
‘Some hotels even close up in the slack months.’
If it’s such a popular place why were there less than 20 guests staying? That is a loss maker. Why didn’t they close?
‘All the doubters have been proved wrong, and will continue to be proved wrong.’
Where is the Profit & Loss account? Where are the annual accounts for the last seven years?
FDNRM you don’t half post a load of propagandist rubbish on here at times. It’s so obvious it comes from the spinners at Basildon.
People,including me, were called liars, scaremongers etc when in Jan/Feb this year we reported that H Hotel and Merricks in Barbados only had a few workers on site, and that it looked like they would soon shut down.Guess what? Shut down they did, as well as the famous H Design Studio…everybody gone! Many people including Government owed money.
Also, when I said that the sale of Amarylis Hotel to Ames had fallen thru, (Which was boasted about in their Sept2012 Newsletter) I was called a liar by Harlisuccess and other Harlequin supporters. Guess what? The sale fell thru! It is still on the market ….more than a year later.
Buccament Bay? Will probably be kept afloat for as long as possible by Ames for a few reasons,not the least of which is that he is a proud Citizen of ST Vincent and the Grenadines, and may well take up residence there.
BB has lost all its top Management , Executive Chefs etc .The remaining employees are hanging on because they have no other choice…Matt Ames apparently was a disaster and was removed as GM.
It remains to be seen if they will survive after the “high Season” is over.
Rates have been discounted by over 30 % for Jan 2014, which is not a good indication of future income.(US$696 AI Jan 4th to 11th)
Fatchett released the following this morning. 82% feel the trust will help secure finance.
43% of people remain undecided.
The logical conclusion is that over 50% of people say yes.
With just under 500 people out of 5700 responding.
Is Fatchett getting a little anxious.
215 out of 500 remain undecided. 8 out of 500 said no. 277 may have said yes but have not sent in their pink slips.
Of the 277 how many work for Ames? Dan Dalligan has 8 units, Katherine Woller a similar number.
Fatchett says that at mid month that Fatchett will have a majority. 277 ????????? Add in the PHIG 277 ??????????? Add in Harlequin which is really the PHIG 277 ??????????
Lets triple these figures 277 × 3 × 3 = 2,493 Total number of investors according to Fatchett 5,700. This equates to 45 % support.
I think Mr. Fatchett is beginning to clutch at straws. Now he also appears to be back tracking from the redress option. So Fatchett are you now stating that 60% of the properties were not mis sold ?
And FDNRM Ames has redefined business in the Caribbean. Don’t pay staff, don’t pay taxes, don’t pay trade creditors and of course you will grow from strength to strength.
Carry on trading insolvently, you say revenue streams are getting strong, so what is happening all this strong revenue?, why are investors being asked to pay for valuations in December when revenue streams will be so strong.
So how come Ames is the only business man in the World who can openly trade whilst insolvent.
With such strong revenue streams and according to Fatchett £80 million of finance in the pipeline why do we need a rescue???
Hello Fat Paddy.
You forget one thing, well two.
Trust
Investment
You are not relevant. And boring.
@a place in the sun. And have they closed? Are they going to close? Lots of companies have cash flow issues at certain times. Tesco etc are extending their payment terms, so are others. And if they did close down in the slack periods could you imagine the doom and gloom posters such as you having a field day. Damed if you do damed if you don’t. You cannot have it both ways. You do put a negative spin on things, it’s obvious you are from the Wigan bunker. See stupid statements are so easy to make, so don’t make them.
The Big Disconnect – the chronic posters on the RL site all seem
to blame Bob Liddel of PHIG and the Harlequin stooges on this
site all seem to blame O’Halloran. May I humbly suggest that
neither of them are responsible for nor doomed Harlequin.
Bob PHIG F*cked up the trust.
Paddy just nicked a few quid.
Ames is ultimately to blame, but that’s not productive or going to fix anything.
BB sustains due to the fact that they have sold of heavy equipment, furniture and fittings, all which belongs to the investors. The activities should be investigated by SFO as it is clearly fraudulent activities.
If BB were dependent on the income from the operation it would have ben closed down a long time ago.
Fdnmr, you have no idea what goes in in St Vincent do you, but we who live here are concerned of the dangerous game Mr Ames plays. We can see a very unhappy ending ahead of us, not only for investors but also for us who live here. The Trust cannot save our people and will not save the investors.
If any investors still think it is a good idea to support BB operated by Mr Ames and company they should first of all make a trip to St Vincent to see and listen to the people what is really going on.
Concerned citizen
@ Katherine……..I feel your pain !
I have been many times where do you live? I just don’t believe you.
Bob Tesco dont need a RESCUE plan. Ames does.
Do you understand what trading insolvently means?
He took deposits from purchasers for properties yet did not have the funds to build the properties.
Now you have an attempt at a rescue plan to save his hide. Although I personally do not think the rescue plan will save him from the authorities.
And with the authorities still hot on his heals no financier will put money into this.
Its over, get over it Bob.
@concerned citizen, I have visited SVG, I have visited BB. So do you think the citizens would be better off if there was no BB? If so why?
Katherine – You may have been to BB many times BUT HOW MANY
TIMES HAVE YOU –
Dined in a local restaurant
Shopped in the town
Hired a car and toured the island
Made friends with a local and visited them at their home
Attended a church service
Bought the local newspapers
I suspect not at all because “all-inclusives” are segregated areas
that fly in all their supplies and only hire locals for obsequious labor.
Personally I think they should be banned through-out the Caribbean.
They are worse than cruise ship “day tourists”.
The above goes for you too Bob.
Bob FDNRM
You were there in St Vincent for less than a day. From the cruise ship you were on you disembarked and took a taxi to BB and then complained bitterly that you had to pay for your lunch and it rained. Don’t you remember?
You are not an expert on SVG and NO the citizens of SVG (and all the the nations where Harlequin has meddled) ARE NOT BETTER OFF! You have no idea what you are talking about Bob. Do some research at least before you post your stupid rants. You are a thick ignorant racist! Now why don’t you just fuck off and get a proper job!
FDNRM Ames owes millions in taxes, millions to suppliers, millions to Vinlec, millions to CWSA, money to Liat, millions to contractors, cut staff salaries by half, then pays them late, or does not pay them for months.
Ames cannot get any more credit here. No bank overdrafts. Nothing.
And how does this benefit the Island?
Furthermore Ames made promises to the government, to his local creditors, to contractors, stating that work would start on October. It hasn’t. He is out of time locally.
In Jan unless the water and electricity bills are paid up to date, Bucc Bay will be cut off.
Contractors and suppliers have filed multi million dollar law suits against Ames and Harlequin because they have waited long enough.
Many of these claims will commence in Jan.
Other Judgements against Harlequin are being signed off in January.
So FDNRM how does Ames or Harlequin benefit St. Vincent. Enough of the Harlequin BULLSHIT.
If a crook comes to town and sets up business, with money that does not belong to him, and hires local people, does that make him any less a crook? The Caribbean does not need more foreign crooks fooling the various Governments about how good they are for the country because they provide employment. Would a 5 star Hotel in St Vincent be welcomed by the Government and people…of course…but whose money built it and operates it? How much money does the operation owe to suppliers, contractors and the Government? Have any of the “Investors” in the project received title to their units? If not, why not?Have any investors received a return based on the room rentals? If not, why not? Has the company filed any financials since they opened for business? If not, why not?
You can only blame the irishman for so much.
@Alpintiot (it’s Tesco, not Tresco) just to set the record straight I did not complain bitterly about paying for my own lunch. It was a tongue in cheek comment, perhaps a bit too subtle for you. And you know I come from the UK so I know all about rain. I thought the racist card would be played by some idiot. I never claimed I was an expert on SVG, you obviously cannot distinguish between a question and a statement. Let me give you a clue, a question has a ? after it. See I asked a question regarding SVG and BB. Talking of stupid rants, I suggest you read your own post again. Pot, kettle, black ( sorry do you see that as racist? )
Princess Margaret probably knew more about SVG (and she only
stayed smashed on Mustique) than any Buccament Bay guest.
Apologies to most readers but Bob,
SHUT UP you RACIST IGNORANT ASSHOLE. You dont know St. Vincent. You dont know the damage Ames has done to the economy. You dont know what Ames has done to damage investment in the region.
So again SHUTUP and FUCK OFF.
Here here Anon. Bob keep your bullshit for the gullible investors. You are not from here so dont dare comment on what us locals know or see with our own two eyes and hear with our own ears. Ames is a criminal. Full Stop.
Bob you ignoramus: have you never heard of Tresco?
I do not give a shit if your comments were meant to be ‘tongue in cheek’ or subtle. I perceive you as a nasty racist bigot. I think others do too.
You are not a very nice person.
Anonymous
November 16, 2013 at 5:49 pm
Never, outside the resort is not to my standards. Most unpleasant.
Jeez…did she just say that !!!
Years ago in the poorest part of Port-a-Prince, the Cite Soleil,
totally barricaded off from what was probably the most wretched
slum in the Americas was the most expensive hotel in the Caribbean
at that time – Le Habitation Leclerc. Well Katherine, Layou ain’t that
slum and Buccament Bay ain’t that hotel. Why don’t you holiday
in Cap d’Antibes where you might be happier. And lets just hope
that your standards might be met.
Yes I did say that; It feels very unsafe a little uncouth.
@anon and the other idiots. Such nice people. Did you manage to think up those remarks by yourselves? Asshole, fuck off, racist bigot? Such a turn of the English language. You are that intelligent you are incapable of thinking up an ID apart from anonymous. Such articulate people.
All those guests flocking to Buccama for Christmas will lurve the marina full of swanky yachts and the pirate boat that you can see on the Buccament Bay website. They will also absolutely adore sinking into the luxurious deep white leatherette seats on Harlequin Air which can whisk you around the Caribbean islands in no time at all.
What’s the betting that the Ames, IFAs, loyal redundant-employees, accountants, legal eagles and all the other hangers-on will have a giant piss up holiday before the corpse that is Harlequin is laid to rest? Such nice people no?
BUT Will Bob and Mrs Bobby be invited too? Will Bob partake of a complimentary passage?
Here’s mud in your eye, sainte, chin-chin
Chardonnay in plastic glasses all round. Chink!
Is it true Erica Brooughton has been sectioned under the mental health act?
Ames has his money, he achieved what he set out to achieve, i.e. take large commissions without any thought to what he did to those who he ripped off, much like Madoff and Stanford. They are sociopaths, out and out criminals. Stanford still proclaims his innocence as Ames does, but it is as clear as day what has happened.
Is it not true that TS is so boring now with the EB references that we … um .. ah
zzzz…..
Pathetic. All the lame Harlequin support and their inane comments are pathetic, resorting to irrelevant swipes at particular investors and a builder who took a tiny fraction of the monies taken, only because Ames was so incompetent/crooked that he did not enter into a contract with the guy. Sad, pathetic scumbags. Investors having to look at forming a trust, what a bizarre situation – all being put together by a law firm who has no idea of what is happening on the ground in the Caribbean or really of what they are trying to save. Clearly first step is to find out, but if only they knew, like we do on the ground, what they are about to find out, then they would not bother.
The sad thing is that Bob Storey doesn’t even realise that his comments are vile, completely racist and deeply offensive not just to our good friends in the Carribean but also to most right minded people in the UK for whom he is a risible figure and an absolute embarrassment. On behalf of the UK I would like to apologise for this moronic dinosaur.
@Anon 9.41 when has £50m been a tiny fraction of £400m. Is an 1/8. That is not a tiny fraction.
@Anon 9.44. Get over yourself. How many people read this forum? You idiot. This is witness intimidation. Mind how you go Lol
Witness to what ????? What court in the world would give any
credence to anything you say?
FDNRM – Harlequin’s claim against Paddy has consistently been c. US$13.5m, or about £8.5m. Where, please, do you get £50m from?
Probably from his DummKopf
(God I hope that means dumb head)
To paraphrase Sheridan: the gentlemen is indebted to his memory for his jokes and his imagination for his facts.
They have the knowledge to make it work
They have the money
CariBBean.
Spelling tip: “T(w)o b(e) in the Caribbean”.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen such collective ignorance as that which I read on here and RL.
Harlequin certainly were effective at selecting their targets.
FDNRM – you again have exposed yourself as a total idiot. US$13m was the Irish result, not US$80m as you state above. As per all Harlequin stooges and tools, you are just a low life who thinks it is ok to rip of people en masse.
$US 50m was the amount Paddy was paid (awaits puerile racist comments) “and a builder who took a tiny fraction of the monies taken”
@Anon 6.37 And the “Irish result” was US$1.9m not US$13m If you are going to call someone a total idiot get your facts right first. Total idiot, right back at you.
@Anon RU, Reading RL are we? that would make you an investor then. Or are you creeping about on forums using someone else’s ID? Googled Job seekers allowance yet to improve your intellect?
It all is irrelevant. The trust will work, finance will happen and Paddy will have a tantrum.
Erica will take her obsession to an early grave, she is already ill and at high risk; being super morbidly obese.
Don’t worry about the redress option. Bob PHIG go the agents all unhappy about it. Part of the trust power struggle. RL had to back off a little in relation to it.
Let me reassure you, RL wanted the redress work in the first place. The pink bridge to it is worth the hassle to get the data.
If the trust works, RL benefit as they have tried.
If the trust does not work, redress is the only option.
Neat !
FDNRM (stupid name don’t you think, Stupid?); the builder may have been paid $50m, but he did actually build 100 or so units at BB, therefore can only have swindled a fraction of $50m. You thick twat. I always have to go and wash my hands after addressing you directly. Absolutely revolting.
an answer to the Irish question.compare value of work done to amount paid out,a check of the audited accounts should show both,any difference could be the amount alleged to be missing
Bob the PHIG nob Liddell wound up all the agents, they in turn wound up the investors.
All because Bob the nob wanted to run a Trust.
Now the Trust is in danger. One Trust and its not you Bob.
All,
13 days to go
We have 13 days before we are going to make a call on the trust. As we have said before, if all the committed investors returned their forms, we would already be up and running. Sadly, this has not happened and we are still treading water.
If there are major reasons for rejection, then we would like to overcome them. At the very least to answer the questions. We have posted a new page on our website to allow you to give us some feedback.
Issues of the Past
We cannot deal with the issues of the past relating to the sales as part of the Investor Trust. The Investor Trust is simply looking to add security to your paper contracts.
Next 2 weeks
In the next two weeks, you will need to ask yourself the question whether you wish to help Harlequin enter into a re-structure / re-finance process. This is the only route we can see for your investments to avoid near total loss. The reverse of the question is whether you wish to see Harlequin fail ? If so, the current level of activity from investors will achieve that.
There have been mistakes made by many parties and these will need to be straightened out, but not now. There simply is not time to have the post mortem at this point.
Agents / IFA’s
We know we have upset agents / IFA’s with our letter of the 28th October 2013. This has caused some to tell their clients to “do nothing”. To be fair, to the agents / IFA’s we can understand the letter of the 28th October 2013 causing them discomfort. On reflection, may be we should not have include our redress option in the letter. However, at the time, we took the view that we wanted to give investors the full picture. That was our judgment call. Like many judgments, in hindsight, it may have been better to have waited. The reverse to that would have been accused of not being upfront !
We are happy to meet with any agent / IFA who wants to understand the seriousness of the situation. They need to help their investors and themselves (most are investors also). It would seem very odd (at this point) if IFA / Agent investors sought to derail the trust as they did not like the letter of the 28th October 2013.
We know (as we have been told) that some agents / IFA’s wanted to create a second trust. This idea has been squashed by Harlequin who have made it very clear that they are only offering security to the trust we are proposing. In these circumstances, this clear affirmation of the position means that we have to find a way to move on. One trust – One security.
It is with that in mind, that we wish to state very clearly that the Investor Trust is our primary objective. Very simply, it is the most pressing issue. Agents / IFA’s need to engage their clients and be frank. They need to make it clear this is not a blip.
Activity during w/c 18th November 2013
This next week takes us to Belfast on Tuesday for two meetings with around 300 investors.
On top of this, we and PHIG will be speaking to agents / IFA’s and SIPP providers to get them fully on board with what needs to be done. We are aware of an agent / IFA / SIPP meeting this week. We have offered to attend.
Conclusion
There will be lots of activity this week. We will try our hardest by keeping our office open to deal with queries until 8.30pm each night. We will send our staff to Belfast and fund the meeting venues etc.
We will send a director to the agents / IFA / SIPP meeting (which will involve us taking loads of stick) if they want us to. We have the courage of our conviction to back this financially and with logistics.
If we ultimately fail, then no one can criticise our application or effort.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
@Anon RU, when you wash your hands can you wash your mouth out as well. You are so articulate arent you. You did not comment on how you manage to sneak around the RL web site. Not a bit embarrassed are we. Oh yes and the 100 units? that Paddy built. worth about £5 never mind 50m.
@FDNRM,
FFS I am sure Ames will love you for your knowledge of RB Valuations just what he need to get finance you fool.
We will speak later!
Bob Liddel is a birdwatcher and tree hugger and spends his free time when not fucking up the trust looking after a bit of waste land and a few birds.
Just the man for a trust 🙂
http://www.woodcroft.org.uk
Bob Baby
Looks like no one will work with this guy.
http://www.ladell.eclipse.co.uk/woodcroft/people.html
Including investors.
@TS I suggest you read the Irish court judgement again. “a potemkin village” Finance is based on the worth NOW not when Paddy left, Just concentrate on your Erica bashing,and leave the important stuff alone. .
Blind leading the blind. Does anyone in the “Trust” know about hotels and development here in the Caribbean? It is not easy, it is not for the faint hearted or the novice. Embarrassing – stick to what you know. In this case it is Ames conning people, and investors being fools. Investors, write it off and move on. Ames, face the music. RL, you are going to come up with egg all over your face in this saga. The HP model and business can only keep bleeding money. Get redress for those who can get it and stop offering false hope for others when it is clear the money is gone. Finance? That is simply ridiculous. There is more chance of Lord Lucan using Shergar for horseback transfers to the Harlequin pirate ship in the Buccament Bay marina than anyone financing this money pit.
Now Bob you of all people know the importance of a . I’m TS not T.S
Now carry on …….
My apologies.
Anonymous
November 17, 2013 at 12:36 pm
I assume you are an ignorant local, not savvy with international business? Finance will come and with it experts.
Ames will be moved aside.
You vile horrible man. You totally horrible man. All I ever wanted to do is save these people and investors form the ames family. TM took my husbands pension now lie about it. I am sick of it people are loosing there houses and ames lives in a big house he bought with our MONEY.
its totally disgusting the authorities have done nothing and all you lot do is talk about the irish builder – time will tell he is not guilty and will win on appeal that 100% sure.
I have again written to Obama and Cameraman so when ames gets a letter from them he will be totally screwed.
meanwhile BB keeps pumping out shit and killing off all the wild life in the area . its not even a 5 star hotel plastic glasses and false beach.
RL ames and PHIG are upto something very fishy
Why has anyone written to a camera man. Is Panorama about again?
There seems to be a widely held though unjustified belief (fostered and reinforced by RL) on the RL site that setting up the trust will save Harlequin.
It is unjustified because whether the trust exists or not, the only thing that will save Harlequin is sufficient external finance to continue and complete the resorts.
RL have encouraged investors to believe that such external (but anonymous) finance has been found by Mr A (how many times has that been said before) and is just around the corner but dependent upon the trust being set up.
Surely if these anonymous financiers are gagging to invest, providing the trust is set up, they would make their interest known to investors who (after checking that the financiers are viable) would be lining up to join the trust. Everyone’s a winner!!!
If you were a financier, keen to invest in this but only if the Trust is set up, wouldn’t you be doing everything you could to help it succeed?
Apparently not!! Something’s not right there.
Of course, the proviso for joining the Trust is that you give up your contractual rights – even if no subsequent finance comes forth – I’m sure it is just a coincidence that waiving all contractual rights leaves Mr A sitting pretty and is more than worth the value of a SIPP investor mailing list.
Anonymous
November 17, 2013 at 3:18 pm
No Trust no finance.
No Finance go bust
Come on oh so clever one what should we all do?
BobFKNOBNRM
‘Why has anyone written to a camera man. Is Panorama about again?’
Not known for your repartee are you? Or your grammar and punctuation come to think of it.
Erica, please continue comfort eating and ssh! It’s rude to speak with your fat gob full
Panorama, was stopped because it was before the watershed. Erica and her family were deemed far too fat and ugly.
Typical; Northern working class council house mentality.
@wmtb and you are not known for a sense of humor are you. Keep taking yourself seriously, no one else will.
Basildon SCUM on troll alert I see.
Posting repetitive offensive remarks about an investor who actually annoyed you by asking for her money back.
Your gravy train has crashed Harlequin employees and iFAs. I hope you get what you deserve.
3 YEARS OF REASONS TO REJECT THE TRUST. SOME OF YOU DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET!!!
And the alternative? The Irish builder can only afford to pay you and a couple of other supporters holidays 😉
What about the rest of us?
@Towie not, are you so gullible to believe the posts are always by the poster whose ID is used? If posters used their true identities ( take note Towie not) then this could be stopped. Perhaps you should go on Paddy alert also.
‘If posters used their true identities ( take note Towie not) then this could be stopped.’
Is that a threat then Bob?
Threat? How do you construe that as a threat? Bit sensitive aren’t you? Witness intimidation?
ROTFL @ Bob the nob fdrmn
its an old one
Good news – the trust will be going ahead.
RL have the funding for the trust already. The valuation money is causing them the issues. Problem is that the quote they have has more holes than they expected.
Watch for the joyous announcement shortly.
RL are good at PR and will tee up the stories with all their journalist mates.
Good news for Christmas !
My agent called me today, worked for Talormade – he said Rob Shaw and Alistair Burns were telling people to oppose the Trust. However, he told me in confidence to join; he, has joined.
It’s about some previous bad blood between them and Gareth Fatchett.
Dirty tricks the IFA’s will go to.
Ames and a number of Senior Harlequin staff due to be arrested and charged shortly.
This will not affect the trust but does remove one of the most contentious parts of the trust. The Ames family involvement.
Good News All Round.
It may be a very merry Christmas indeed.
of course Paddy, pathetic fat git you really are.
Thought Paddy was against the trust. Well thats what Harlequin have been saying all along. Breaking News was stating the trust will work especially with the potential removal of the last barriers. The contentious issue of the continued involvement of Ames.
Oh I get it now, ……………….. Harlequin dont care about the trust. Its now about what people say about Ames, twice bankrupt, liar, conman, thief, who has all his UK assets frozen, who is being investigated by the SFO and Essex Police and who claims to have £80 million quid in the pipeline. Yet cant raise the cash to do a valuation.
If it smells like bullshit it is bullshit. Yeah Fatchett saw a letter of intent, another forgery perhaps? Wheres all the other money Ames you said you had previously, remember you gave an interview in 2011 and financiers were knocking down your door to give you money.
Your a liar, a thief and just scum.
Keep blaming everyone else. You know the knock will come on your door very soon. And so do most of your senior management.
So if anyone speaks out about you Ames you blame the Irish Builder.
Listen you pathetic piece of dog shit. You better start paying your staff at Buccama cause there aint much else left there to steal.
You low life scum bag. Pay our wages. Or else.
@ W B Tiler, who did you call today? Yourself? Or did you call yourself predictions?
The trust may well happen, the Finance will not, and Ames and most of his crew will get arrested.
That is for sure. See Ames can lie to his investors, promise that the money is in the pipeline, and most of his investors will swallow this because they have nothing else to cling onto. But you and I know there is no finance, none. So what or more importantly who will Ames blame in the next few months.
A trust or CVA will not stop any criminal investigation.
why is so much abuse directed onto punters who ask for a refund as per contract.?also as in the vast majority of cases that contract appears to have been broken prior to any agreement not to sue what are the incentives for any of those involved to act with good intent.how would this all work if say a criminal case was to be pursued i ask as being a trust member in many respects is similar to a directorship insomuch that you have to act in the best interests of the trust whilst staying within the law of the land .I believe RL are acting in the very best interests of their clients ,but remember McMillan? “events my dear boy,events”
There isn’t any money coming, unless AMes give control to new owners, the government of SVG write of the tax, the trade creditors accept a haircut and the investors accept the dream is over and the best they can hope for is 30p in the pound for the common parts of BUccama. Don’t give a toss about the SFO it’s just to bloody late to save the investors money. It’s spent and gone long time ago
@all experts November 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm said:
“No Trust no finance.” – Proof of this please; and proof that Trust = Finance?
“No Finance go bust” – True!
“Come on oh so clever one what should we all do?”
We all should convince RL that they should contact the financier (whose “letter of intent” they claim to have seen) and explain that the investors need evidence that the financiers are committed to providing finance, how much and when, and what conditions it is subject to.
If they still wish to remain anonymous then RL can provide a written statement to investors that they have undertaken due diligence on the financier and the offer, and are satisfied it is genuine and viable.
Then and only then would I be prepared to join the Trust.
At the moment we only have Mr A’s word that it is all OK.
The Trust would be more credible if they could show any recent research into the potential of and demand for the Harlequin product. Given sufficient money anyone can build monster resorts but unless there is a proven demand by the travel and tourism industry the business can never succeed. Developers are returning to The Caribbean, but even the largest leading brands seem to be planning resorts of less than a quarter the size of the proposed harlequin resorts. Unless the other resorts are scaled back to the existing size of BB I cannot see how there is any possibility of this working. Of course if the resorts are scaled back then the investors returns will have to have the same treatment – perhaps that is acceptable to some?
Meanwhile over on Pimlico Flats forum (worth reading for the Damascene conversion of one pro HP poster) there is a truly startling suggestion as to the identity of the new financier. If there is a shred of credibility in that then no wonder RL want to keep it under wraps until everything is signed up. There would be riots if it turned out to be true!
A serious accident occurred at Buc Bay yesterday. One of the diving instructors got into difficulty. It took 16 hrs to medevac him to Barbados.
Seriously injured. Wonder what spin Ames or the dive company will put on this?
The Trust will happen, PHIG behind it, HP , RL and investors.
and the financier?
Dave Ames? Get real. Posters asking for the financier to be made public before the trust is signed up? Does it occur to posters that a condition of finance could be that their involvement is kept confidential until after the trust is established? That is the way companies operate, under a cloak of confidentiality. Also if the potential financier was made public there are people who would do anything to scupper this, so confidential it has to be.
Anonymous
November 18, 2013 at 9:49 am
The Irish builder stole his oxygen.
No, No Sid it was the negative publicity.
Did the Irish builder steal that too? I’m sure he had something to do with it. He’s to blame for every catastrophe that’s occurred in the Caribbean in the last 5 years.
There is only ever one reason why companies trying to do a deal, do so in secrecy. It is to prevent rivals getting wind of it before the deal is done. That is how companies operate!
So now we are to believe that there are at least two financiers – or maybe lots – aching to get in on the act! Lucky Mr Ames!
Although the supposed financier must be a little peeved about having their details disclosed to RL (despite the confidentiality clause) and RL publishing enough of those details to allow any supposed rivals (easy if you’re in the same business) to identify them.
Could Dave Ames be the new financier ?????? have Plimlico flats found the missing link ?wouldnt it be so bloody funny , cheeky and cocksure .
How could DA be the new investor? How would he raise £80m?
We think the new financier is Tailormade.
Sid
November 18, 2013 at 2:10 pm
How could DA be the new investor? How would he raise £80m?
remind me again how much has gone missing? Investors locked into a no sue deal, contracts torn up, debts shed = trebles all round!
Why do you think that?
It’s RL, they have the cash to roll in this game.
That wouldn’t be good for Fatchett after he has publicly stated that RL were satisfied that HP are skint. And if Ames has been hiding away £80m whilst failing to not meet contracted interest payments because of lack of funds…
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was RL as I know Fatchett can see huge long term gains if HP do get back on track and it would explain his enthusiasm and RL’s support of Fatchett. However, what puzzles me is that if Ames is soon to walk away, why would he care so much about upsetting the IFA’s and SIPP providers?
Its called a paper exercise … ie no cash changes hands till completions on the 50 units then money is used to pay of the court cases and the rest wait cos they cant sue for three years by which time they will be out of time lergally.
A beautiful ending ,Chapeaux Mr Ames
@RL…TSO, it won’t be that. There has been too much talk of a new outside investor for there not to be one.
Talk it up lads, talk it up!
Just speculating anonanon 🙂
Bob Liddell ( PHIG) was trying to put a deal together; whereby agents pooled all their properties ( including all the TM one’s) and set up ‘a cut price Trust’
Effectively, TailorMade would own all of the asset not investors.
This is the reason they defamed Reg Legal.They see the support gaining momentum.
Bob, was promised a position of authority in the new structure. DA and RL got wind of this and stopped it.
One Trust and it’s with RL.
I don’t know how Bob Liddell would have found the time, what with his bird-watching commitments and his radio show. I can never remember…is he Smashie or Nicey?
One love, people get ready
He looks like a pervy Bob to me ;(
He’s from the 80’s. If we’ve learned one thing this year it’s that most 80’s people were pervy.
Especially those linked to the ‘music’ industry 😉
their a ruomer that Robin King is getting rental from bucament Bay for a cabana but Bob story was not/!!!!?
who is Robin King?
Sean Ghent’s nom d’espionage…
Who is Bob Story?
He is better than Bob Lidell 😉
Bob le serpent sournois
TailorMade Have made a bid for BB, it’s been rejected.
Their Trust has failed because of investor backlash.
RL case is for £500,000 against them.
I always wondered how to say “forked-tongue” in French…
Don’t you know who you are FDNRM Bob 36?
You’ve been posting here and on other fora for months and we all know you as Bob or Robert Storey.
@ 7:34pm anon
did wonder if it was sean g
hent spinning stuff on BFP
That there is more Pink papers in RL office than Alistair Burns toilet 😉
Does anyone know?
Foxhole humor for the past couple of hours. The EndTimes
are upon us !!!
Knock at the door x 3
“There is a report”
Gareth loves crack.. make no mistake about that,
He’s an aggressive one that Rob Shaw. Like a yapping dog on your ankle.
I like speed. The drug of choice in the West Midlands
@And on and on, you fell for that one, hook line and sinker. LOL
Rob & Alistair cheque books at the ready!
You were told many, many months ago TM would all go wrong and it did. Next is your other companies.
Interesting reading – does this set a precedent for Buccament Bay I wonder. There are certainly parallels and this does demonstrate that the Gonsalves regime are prepared to put the interests of the nation first.
Where are the parallels? The land was acquired to build a hotel. No hotel was built. In case you have not noticed there is a hotel at BB.
Built as part of a massive ponzi scheme.
Which is closing in six weeks…
Just like it was closing months ago yeah?
Oops no it’s open and winning more awards!
@FDNRM
Of course, you do understand the complexities of the Alien Land Holdings Act and the conditions imposed on foreigners wishing to purchase land/property in SVG don’t you?
An application for an Aliens Land-Holding License must be submitted through a local lawyer to the Prime Minister’s office. Local lawyers charge a fixed fee of US$ 1,500 for making the application. Despite what Harlequin salesmen and agents say, it is a long and complicated process. What if Dr Gonsalves decides not to comply? After all the citizens of St Vincent have come off rather badly in this debacle.
None of the investors as far as I can see have a License and therefore do not have title which puts them in a precarious position, more so if the SVG Harlequin company goes into receivership. A winding up order is due to be heard in Jan 2014 BTW.
Yet another development debacle in SVG –
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g147383-i2331-k6953681-What_s_the_latest_with_Adam_s_Bay-Bequia_St_Vincent_and_the_Grenadines.html
Locals are getting very unhappy about exploitative developers who understand nothing about the islands fouling the place up with their failed get rich quick schemes.
@el2 in answer to your question, yes.
I guessed you would! Bob
Baie du Sucre, how bloody pretentious! Overlooking the stone-breaking quarry too – how picturesque!
BB Brain Watch
Let’s let it all go wrong then and all those lazy overpaid locals will have no job.
Serve you all right.
Katherine why not just come right out and say what you really think!
You, my dear, are a pompous old hag/crone.
@EL2 do you think they will use a top 10 accountancy firm to help develop the project?
Robert who is “they” ??
Jonathan Milne and Kelly Glass
Hi I’ve got some good news !
The Buccamentbay Harlequin sports academy has been nominated for the world leading sports academy 2013at the world travel awards.
The Harleqine sports academy is also a primary part of Harlequins corporate social responsibility programme,
Promoting better education through sport in the Caribbean.
for information purposes only. i note that on the rl site they are asking investors to provide as much info as possible for redress claims. to all investors you can request a full and detailed Data protection/ subject access report from your advisor/ifa/sipp/fs company. you can find a standard template if you search google. the cost is minimal (compared to your investment)and they have a duty to provide you with this information .letters, fact finds, reason for recommendation etc etc. this may help you in supplying more information to RL or indeed the FSO et al if you have decided to make a direct complaint (after following the set procedure for complaints via the fca website).
The World Travel Awards invites Hotels etc to “nominate” themselves. No good news here WOW. Its pure BS.
Another year has passed and another batch of awards is being proposed for the Resort which has supposedly redefined luxury in the Caribbean.
These new nominations are in respect of the sporting academies located at Buccament Bay.
But before we continue maybe we should take time out and pray for Richie from Indigo Dive, the Buccament Bay dive school. Richie was seriously injured in a diving accident over the weekend. Sadly the lack of insurance cover by both Buccament Bay and Indigo dive, and the lack of any immediate first aid at the resort meant that Richie was without adequate and vital medical attention for in excess of 16 hours. This is the time it took to arrange a medevac for Richie to Barbados.
I think it is time we pray for both Richie and his family. And hope that Richie can make a speedy recovery.
And it is time that Buccament Bay, The Harlequin Sports Accademy and Indigo dive provide the adequate insurances to cover their sports academy and indeed the resort, so that in the unfortunate event that another accident occurs and God forbid if it were to happen a guest, that the shambolic events of this weekend are not repeated.
We call on Dave Ames, Andy Townsend and Kay Wilson to ensure that adequate insurances are now immediately put in place and we call on Andy Townsend as the director of the Sports Academy to suspend all the activities until such time as proper insurance is in place.
It is sad that the management of Buccament Bay, Mr. Townsend or Kay Wilson are unwilling to acknowledge the serious accident which occurred out of a fear that it would bring additional, unwanted attention on the operations of Buccament Bay and Harlequin.
If a fund is started four Richie I should be happy to contribute.
I wonder if the companies that provide trip insurance are aware
that they just might be responsible for guest mishaps since it would
be totally impossible to get anything from Harlequin.
As a matter of fact Gonsalves should shut BB down until they provide
proof of coverage. As an aside why didn’t Comrade Gonsalves
fly Richie to Havana where he seems toy have pretty good political
connections? Surprisingly Cuba does have world class medical
facilities.
indeed. any more update on the fire precautions at BB following previous mishap/accident. hope richie ok.
What`s Richie`s Full name and where is he in Bdos..I would like to help.
How do you redefine luxury ? With Plastic for your cheap wines?
-Yat I think you are justifiably pissed…
If he was diving under the supervision of Indigo dive he would have been covered. Indigo dive pulled out of BB due to non payment, sound familiar?
The latest development is that Guardian, who are one of the SIPP operators involved with the Harlequin investment, are insisting on doing serious due diligence before they would agree to a change to the contracts they manage.
Not really surprising since RL have caused quite a stir insisting they are going to pursue the operators as well as IFAs over lack of due diligence in taking on the SIPP in the first place.
The problem for RL is that such due diligence would require much more information about the Trust, the exact nature of the contractual changes and the precise details of the alleged finance to be made available and the rights they will have over the “investment” none of which RL have or are likely to have any time soon. RL are not best pleased!
K Freeman
If you wish to receive FREE LEGAL ADVICE regarding your Harlequin investment.Please contact Regulatory Legal Solicitors on 01384 889900.
This so called accident, is it real? could it be that SVG has no decent hospitals, that’s the real problem? To blame allegedly having no insurance is just Paddy stirring things up.
Is it true? link to a independent report?
People get in problems all the time diving.
All,
SIPPs
We have seen the Guardian SIPP email stating that they require more information about the Investor Trust before approving it.
1. Regulatory Legal Solicitors wrote to Guardian (see SIPP Queries) answering the queries raised to us.
2. It appears that Guardian SIPP require further information from us / Harlequin. Whatever they require, we will get to them as a matter of urgency.
A SIPP is a member directed pension. The investment decisions sit with the member. The contracts with Harlequin are technically held by the SIPP Trustee. Therefore, without the consent of the SIPP Trustee, the vital pre-steps to bring about the Investor Trust and the securitisation cannot proceed.
We have consulted with counsel in relation to the proposed scheme. We do not believe that the improvement of the investor position in any way breaches any of the SIPP rules. Many of the contracts held by the SIPP trustee have been in breach for a significant period of time. These breaches have never been (to our knowledge) challenged. It is in this context that we invite SIPPs to agree to the Investor Trust process so we can proceed.
Therefore, at the point we are about to improve the position of investors, we need the positive support of SIPPs. We are ready to provide SIPPs whatever they need to enable this matter to proceed. It is our preference to work with SIPPs to help them to understand the proposal better.
Tomorrow, we will write to all SIPPs and post the letter on our website. It will urge them to act to protect investor interests.
SIPP / Agent Meeting – 20th November 2013
More importantly, PHIG and David Ames from Harlequin are to meet some (but not all) SIPP providers and major agents. We are hopeful that the issues that need addressing can be flushed out. We are also hopeful that the issues that have created by the “redress” option can be put to one side. It is now time to act in the interests of the investors.
Conclusion
The support for the Investor Trust is growing. We have spoken to agents / IFAs and dealt with some of the issues they have. Many are now actively recommending the trust. This is a mind set change as many were angry with us for offering the redress option. You will see from our video update of last night, that we accept that the focus needs to be on the Investor Trust as the priority. It is worth watching if you have not already done so.
Our hope is that PHIG / David Ames will be able to galvanise the agents / IFA’s / SIPPs in the meeting tomorrow. There will only be one trust and one set of security. Therefore, we have to work with our plan.
We will do our part to answer questions and provide as much information as we can to facilitate matters.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
SIPP’s are in trouble and they know it, we know it.
Dear Sir / Madam,
My name is Kay Wilson, I am the owner of Indigo Watersports Ltd.
My team and I have been devastated by aftermath of Richies accident, and have supplied all of the support that we could in order to assist Richie and his family during this very trying time.
I would like to clarify a few points;
Richie and his dive companion decided to take a dive on their own time afterwork.
Richie passed out following his second dive. His dive buddy immediately got him to the Buccament Bay Resort and raised the alarm. His colleagues, the resort security and resort doctor assisted Richie once brought to shore.
He was transported quickly to Milton Cato Hospital where he received first class care by the hospitals medical professionals.
Richie appeared to respond well to the treatment and gave no indication that he would require anything more than an overnight stay.
The following morning it became apparent that his injuries were more severe than anyone could have expected and he was transported with hours to Barbados for treatment. Richie is currently with his family in Barbados where his treatment continues, and we are hopeful that he will make a full recovery.
In the ten years that Indigo has been in business we have had an exemplarily safety record. As part of our service to Buccament Bay Resort we are required to have Public Liability Insurance policy in place.
I know that RIchie and his family will be heartened by the support shown for him during this time by the participants of this online community, however may I ask that anyone wishing to confirm Richies status contact me directly so that I may put you in touch with his family.
I can be contacted at info@indigodive.com
Regards,
Kay Wilson
Kay,
Thank you for this. It is a shame that some have seen this an opportunity to have a dig at Harlequin. The focus should be on Richie.
For some, they have no life other than arguing about Harlequin. Sad.
Well done Kay for setting the record straight. And for those who have used an unfortunate accident to try and score points and spread mis information, you are beneath contempt.
The divers name is Michael Richie Richards, he is currently in hospital in Barbados, he has no medical insurance nor will he receive sick pay.
We thank Kay Wilson for her clarification but are saddened by the fact that it took posters on this site to highlight the tragic incident.
Sadly there are differing versions surrounding the events, however the priority for all concerned is to pray for Richie and his family and hope he makes a full recovery.
Ms. Wilson would be well aware of the problems associated with Buccament Bay. There are no trained first aiders employed by Harlequin at Buccament Bay and the Resort doctor is in fact a local doctor who can be called to the Resort on an as needed basis.
In other countries a full HSA investigation would be conducted after such an accident and diving operations suspended pending an initial report at least on the cause of the accident.
It would probably be too much to ask either K Wilson or Buccament Bay to provide details of the insurance cover and the insurance company name for independent verification. Or is this covered by an NDA.
We are also saddened that Harlequin have made no statement with respect to the accident nor have they offered any support to Michael Richards.
Kay Smith was seen in photographs assisting with passing buckets of water to help put out the fire at Buccament Bay a year ago.
If it had not been for this site, people would have not known about the accident. It is absolutely normal procedure in accidents such as this to suspend diving operations immediately. There have been rumours circulating for quite some time now as to the adequacy of the insurance cover provided by both Harlequin and Indigo Dive at the Buccament Bay resort.
Sources very close to the Richards family have been the ones who have raised those very serious concerns. Would K Wilson be prepared to state that all Mr. Richards medical costs will be borne by Indigo Dive and or their insurers. ? Mr. Richards is facing many months in hospital and many more months after this in just recovering.
The Richards family are justifiably concerned as to who will foot this bill.
“Richie and his dive companions decided to take a dive on their own time after work” If that is correct then where is liability to Indigo and BB? Why should Harlequin be “expected” to make a statement? No one wants to see anyone injured under any circumstances but where is their obligation if a person is off the clock. And what has this got to do with anyone passing a bucket of water a year ago? I would have thought if a diver was diving in his own time then he would have had his own insurance cover.
Not even Vincey Newspapers seemed to have covered this sad event at BB..Strange.
Without knowing the exact nature of the accident lit is impossible to
comment. If it was equipment failure and that equipment is PADI
certified then it is incumbent upon Indigo to cease all operation
and follow PADI protocol. The letter from Ms Wilson was well
crafted in what it did not say. Bob Storey you can go on and on
ad infinitum but lives could be at stake.
Well said Kay. A timely and accurate summation of what really happened. It is a great pity that some have chosen Richie’s unfortunate incident as a means to have a pop at BB and Indigo Dive. Your track record is exemplary and the incident frankly had nothing to do with Indigo Dive as it was on his time, not yours. All of us appreciate the support that you have given, and no doubt will continue to give.
@John West, well said.
Well said Bob, indeed probably too well said, for Bob. Well said John West, now all Kay Smith needs to do is provide the public with a copy of Indigo Dive’s insurance policies. And that keep the doubters at bay.
While not wishing to change the subject from the diving accident, I’ve noticed the following Air Berlin (Germany’s second largest airline) expresses an interest in fling to SVG once the international airport is open. Now I wonder where all those new arrivals will stay? Does SVG have the spare hotel capacity to cope?
This isn’t Bob writing these posts.
There is a certain eloquence about his writing today isn’t there? Maybe he’s off the toilet now so isn’t straining while he types.
Please remember folks that there is no NHS or sick pay on the islands. An accident such as the one that has happened at Buccament Bay is catastrophic for a Caribbean family.
@EL2
Appreciate that, but I’m sure its not been the ONLY terrible accident that’s happened on SVG?
Just that this has a tenuous ling to Harlequin
Who said the accident happened at BB? The diver was taken to the BB resort. Stop trying to some way link the to BB to suit your own agendas. It is disingenuous to try and use his misfortune for points scoring.
Definitely not the fdnrm we’ve come to cherish and admire…
Buccbay now being advertised at £90.00 per night all inclusive per person including free transfers from Barbados, Sunset Cruise and 3 one hour free spa treatments.
This works out at £64.00 per night per person if you deduct the cost of the flight.
Take away the costs of the food and drink, the cruise, the three spa treatments, does not really leave anything left to pay staff or indeed give those enormous returns.
If the Germans are coming to Buccament bay,they will love the luxurious sun beds.
I wonder if the new investors are German?
Fdnrm, does harlequin own the land at Marquis estate where he sold all his units? Do they have planning permission? How do you support this company when the answer is no to such questions?
Bob is not posting anymore.
We want to show how irrelevant the Irish chap and his coven are.
That has been the instruction from above correct.
@Anon, nothing like bringing the conversation back to the usual crap. Aren’t you a clever boy being able to answer your own questions.
Trouble brewing; There has been a Report
booking a caribbean trip today…the travel agent mentioned BB, but then said not sure if it will still be there and the owner is a fraudster….so you maybe best to avoid that resort……we booked another island and resort
Kinda not looking good for ongoing visitors is it!!!…did surprise me, but if travel agents are shunning the place…..? The Harlequin brand and BB would seem to be a stay away brand??/…shame as the pics did look good
Tailormade (& Others) bid for Harlequin failed in spectacular fashion today.
DA if firmly behind the Trust, very much on form today.
The meeting was a fairly lively affair, in the end the majority of IFA’s / agents come round – self included.
Apart from a couple of idiots, we are for it.
Most of us have invested via SIPP or in lieu of commission payments – so either way we need it to work.
Paddy give up your looking foolish 😉 with your silly stories
Is that Tailormade in liquidation. Done such a good job with their own business they want to interfere with others.
Is it true that a SIPP provider owner is also an investor ?
It is obvious now that Her Majesty’s Government isn’t up to
the task. Time for some Island Nation PM’s to show a bit of
moxy and look after the welfare of their constituents.
@Amon 829 pm…where in heck did you see BB at 90 GBP per night? You must be dreaming.
Care to give a link…I see only 1200+ GBP per night from Dec 20 th to Jan 5th.
Please clarify, or your post is meaningless and very misleading.
http://www.getatraveldeal.com/hotel/buccament-bay-resort-st-vincent.html for the £65 per night deals.
Travel Republic is offering rooms at £357 per night pp from 19-26 December 2013. And they have plenty of availability through out December 2013 and Jan 2014.
ebookers are offering the resort through out December for £265 per night per person. They too have full availability through out December.
There are even better deals on line
@Lord Haw haw….if you refering to me…I live in north west Uk…and not Irish and am not an Irish bulder nor do I know any…well I have heard of McAlpines if that counts…….deffo a fair amount of paranoia on this site….funny old world
oh and nothing at all to do with the wigan bunker or any other pro/anti Harliquin group
I have just been catching up on the Regulatory Legal Website, Paul Walton has been commenting that he organised the first investor meeting with Regulatory Legal I thought it was the fat one? If it was Paul then it was him who was/is bringing down Harlequin maybe we have accused the wrong person all along?
I still believe it’s Masons who are propping this whole thing up. Fatchips had a Masonic tie on in the London meeting.
Say’s it all.
@ANON I think the fact is the meeting was organised By Erica however Paul Walton brought Gareth along as a legal advisor and the rest as they say is history ……….. but hell lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story.
@the brotherhood – dont you get a wind up when you see it .
Does it Fu****g Matter Broughton or Walton?????????????
I’m Just glad Fatchett was invited bollocks to the rest.
Bouughton is a nut job – that’s indisputable.
Mulder and Scully
You really don’t have the slightest clue what’s going on; or who is pulling the strings – such a shame.
@tgaotc- of course I have no clue why would I ? I am the frigging mushroom like the rest of the investors
Gareth was sporting a Warwickshire province tie !
And some investors are using secret code on the blog, James Shaw has some masonic sign of there too.
Paddy / Erica – us Harlequin supporters are now leaving.
You will be on your own now.
They were made for each other.
All,
IFA / Agent Meeting
Firstly, some good news. The meeting of IFA’s / Agents yesterday produced a result which brings the Investor Trust one step closer. The meeting was feisty and the issues difficult. A number of attendees have contacted us to report back the content of the meeting and the conclusion. The IFA / Agents made their point known to Harlequin / PHIG. Harlequin invited alternative options and very simply, it was concluded there are none. The Investor Trust is the only viable and realistic option to assist Harlequin. The lack of an IFA / Agent alternative brings to a close the debate. The IFA / Agents are now going to move on and support the Investor Trust.
We are happy to deal with any queries Agents / IFAs have. We have written to the IFA / Agent who set up the meeting to make that clear.
We would be very disappointed if any IFA / Agent continued to suggest a “do nothing” stance. That now serves no purpose. If investors have this response, then we need to know, so we / Harlequin and PHIG can tackle this.
SIPP
Our letter to Guardian SIPP (see front left of the site) of the 20th November 2013 was sent to all the other major SIPP providers. We now need the SIPP trustees to either (a) raise any queries or (b) make a decision.
We feel that this matter is not about one SIPP provider. It is thematic as it affects around 4000 people and their pensions.
In these circumstances, we are going to consider asking the FCA to intervene if no progress is made by mid next week. We simply have no choice.
This is not our preferred course of action, but we will have no choice shortly. We will write to SIPPs again urging them to engage.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
The key SIPP Companies who hold Harlequin are :-
Berkely Burke
Guardian Pension Consultants
Lifetime SIPP
Heritage
Alltrust
Rowanmoor
Curtis Banks (previously Montpellier)
Hornbuckle Mitchell
We have written to all these providers asking them to confirm their position vis a vis the Harlequin Investor Trust. It is our intention to ask the FCA to intervene if we have no decision by close on the 26th November 2013.
Well some good news, those die hard Harlequin Supporters have stated that they are leaving BFP. Let’s see how long that will last.
Interesting bit from RL. So if SIPP providers do not agree to the trust Fatchett will report them to the FCA.
Surely if they have done something wrong they should be reported anyway?
Dear Investor
Re: Harlequin Investor Trust
We believe that you may have received a letter dated 28 October 2013 from a firm of solicitors called Regulatory Legal, with the title ‘Proposal to create an Investor Trust’. The letter and accompanying document invites you to make a payment of £240 (£200 + VAT).
The letter is unclear on a number of crucial points and we have therefore written to Regulatory Legal seeking clarification.
In the meantime, it is our impression from the letter that joining the Investor Trust will involve a substantial change in the asset that your SIPP is holding. If this impression is confirmed by Regulatory Legal’s response to our questions, Guardian Pension Consultants Ltd (Guardian), as the SIPP operator, will need to approve the change. At present we are uncertain as to whether joining the Investor Trust will be beneficial to you.
Until we have received further information from Regulatory Legal to enable Guardian to properly assess the proposal, you may wish to consider refraining from making payment to Regulatory Legal. However, as Guardian is not authorised to provide financial and/or legal advice, we recommend that you discuss the matter with your Independent Financial Adviser.
We will keep you informed of developments.
Yours faithfully,
Guardian Pension Consultants Ltd
James are you the brother of Mr. Shaw from Tailormade, the same James Shaw on the RL site? I believe Tailormade are opening offices in Essex.
“The Investor Trust is the only viable and realistic option to assist Harlequin.” and there I was thinking that the purpose of the trust was to assist the investors, ah well, you live and learn eh?
Trust = Get Out Of Jail Free Card for Ames…period
I wish to clarify a point regarding my posting on BFP. I am fully supportive of the trust and GF efforts to assist all investors in HP. As this is reaching a critical period, which I believe will be successful, I will no longer be posting on BFP. If anyone posts on here as FDNRM it will be an impostor. Rumors my be started as I have been “warned off” like the SFO (bollocks) but this is a personal decision as I dont feel I can add anything else to the debate. The ball is rolling and will be unstoppable. Good luck to one and all, CD’s can still be bought if required, and dont all cheer at once else the BFP web site will crash. .
I am indeed the very same James Shaw, TM have made a second bid to Dave Ames for Harlequin.
My little brother say’s he will be taking over the Harlequin Offices next week
RIP Bob Storey
All the Harlequin supporters on this site have been asked, sorry warned not to engage in further debate, if that is what you call it, they continued to stir up issues which Ames and Fatchett felt were having an adverse affect on how most investors perceived Harlequin and the trust.
Bob Storey states he has nothing more to add to the debate. We thank him and the Harlequin supporters for their invaluable contribution to the debate. They alone have caused many investors to think twice about joining any trust. They have assisted investors in their decision making processes by demonstrating the ignorance and duplicity of both Harlequin and RL.
If there ever were a serious financial suitor for Harlequin, wouldn’t it
be in its best interest to set-up its own trust and invite all the investors
-free of charge – into it. I can’t imagine what financial entity would plough
the hundreds of millions in capital needed and still allow David Ames to be in
any way a part of the picture. That says to me that there is no serious
“rainmaker”.
It will by like a Warrington / Ireland bi-lateral discussion with odd Crozier chucked in soon.
What a pincer movement !
Erica / Paddy have no one to moan to anymore and the litigation will continue.
The agents have fallen into line. Commissions to be paid up to date may have helped. Contingent on trust implementation.
All the masons have rallied round to help W Bro Ames.
Very shortly the last piece of the jigsaw will be in place, the end of the RL forum. No more discussions and matey chats. Just straightforward silence.
Golden Masonic moments.
S&F
“For He’s a jolly good fellow”
Fellow = fellowcraft – 2nd degree mason.
When they have a celebratory meal, you watch them sing this to W Bro Dave, Bro Fatchett, Bro Ingram , Bro Walton .
You may call this the first trustee meeting if you so desire.
Happy to meet….
The Appeal in Dublin will be thrown out.
Wilkins Kennedy will settle.
“What is the first care Bro Ames ?”
“To see nought but masons are present ”
Will this be the start of every trustee meeting ?
ahhh notice that bad smell that was hanging around? it’s gone!
Some recent headlines from iwitnessnews svg in the past week:
-Anglican Archdeaconry to Hold Advent Mission Service on December 1
-Cyclist Dies after Colliding with Car
-Richie Spice to Perform at Can Fest 2013
…and not one word about the Indigo diver…is something being
covered up?
All that remains is………………………………… 🙂
FDNRM gone? Dreams do come true!
All,
We know that 85% + of people support the idea of the trust, with only 2% against it. The balancing being undecided. We suspect that when we do the new survey today, the numbers will have improved.
We know that since Tuesday the main agents are now in support of the idea, moving their “do nothing yet” stance to “join”. If you need to revisit your agent do so. The position has now changed. If not, let us and Harlequin know. We will then make contact with the agent.
We know that Harlequin support the one trust / one security proposal.
We support the proposal as we believe it the best way to achieve value from the current position.
PHIG support the proposal.
Yes, there are questions and queries still to be answered. We continue to do this via our office which will be open until 8.30pm until the end of the month.
We have received a good flow of Pink Forms and cheques (which we have not banked since our announcement). All bank payments are in our client account. In simple terms, we are ready to start the process having scoped out all the pre-planning work.
SIPP
The last piece of the jigsaw is the SIPP providers. We want them to :-
(a) pay the Investor Trust fees for clients from their SIPP accounts
(b) confirm they support the proposal (subject to the due diligence and their own review)
(c) suspend the annual fees being charged pending resolution of the matter.
The SIPP providers may say Yes to (a) and (b) , but No to (c).
Whatever they say, they need to say it soon. There are significant number of clients waiting for (a) and the whole project needs (b). Many clients suffer due unless (c) is implemented, particularly those with no cash in their SIPP.
We keep being told that the SIPP providers have “queries”. Having answered all their queries on the 11th November 2013 and then chased on the 20th November 2013, we cannot see what more they require. Both letters are on the site for you to read. If there are further queries then let us / Harlequin have them. We cannot deal with what we do not have.
The inaction of the SIPPs is a direct threat to your investment and we need them to play their part in protecting your interests. We have options if this continues. However, consent and being amicable is our preferred course.
We would urge you to contact your SIPP and impress on them the need to (a) make a decision or (b) provide an exhaustive list of queries so we can deal with them.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
All,
We have been informed that Guardian SIPP have made a decision and are “posting” a letter out to everyone.
Let’s hope that they have done the right thing, which will put them in a good light with investors.
As the matter is pressing, we would suggest any Guardian SIPP holder ring Guardian and ask them for a simple “yes” or “no” answer. Guardian appear to be able to email to everyone when they need to. Why a letter on a Friday now ?
In that way, we can all prepare for the actions which need to be taken next week.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Question…all the action seems to be related to BB…what about the investors in Merricks, in Brazil and all the other resorts on land not owned by HP that deposits have been paid and no refunds with money moved to elsewhere……is that not fraud what is….but why do these not get mentioned here at all????
3 posts all day. 2 re-posts of RL updates.
Paddy – your soap box is very lonely. Will Erica / Angela / other nutters have to post on RL now ?
What a fine example of management by Harlequin.
A poor SIPP candidate in a state of darkness.
The SIPP’s are about to feel the full wrath of the Brotherhood.
The Lodge is finally closed again.
36 Bob Storey’s farewell post reminds me of the insincerity of Richard Nixon’s resignation.
Bro. Bob will not rise to this taunt.
That dick Bob couldn’t rise for anything!
Get stuffed you fatty. You ex could be bought, just like a ho
Andy Dunlop anagram for a complete tit
At a total loss ????
play noun d
you plan d help !!!
The idiot is a one man band who has late accounts and a 3k loss last year.
Shows agents to be dumb sheep. Follow the tit !
DrH – Are you mental? No sense can be made of your posts.
All in good time, all in good time.
Finger pointing should come as no surprise. This purported scam required roles to be played by various parties. Ames came up with the business model, told lies to sell it, but needed IFAs, agents and SIPP providers to be the vehicle that brought the cash in for him and them. Ames doing well to still be involved somehow and even to get investors to agree not to go after him should they participate in the trust (subject to DD, which is very likely to show that the business is just too expensive to keep going) SIPPs and IFAs did no due diligence as even the slightest amount would have shown this to be an extraordinarily high risk investment at best if managed by the best developers in the world. As managed by a novice it was throwing money away. As managed by an alleged fraudster, it was giving him your money for nothing. Will be interesting to see what RL’s DD shows, and what the BB and Blu accounts show.
I rise for the second time to ask if anybody has ought to answer the question below
…all the action seems to be related to BB…what about the investors in Merricks, in Brazil and all the other resorts on land not owned by HP that deposits have been paid and no refunds with money moved to elsewhere……is that not fraud what is….but why do these not get mentioned here at all????
Would seem BB is all that matters
Maybe all the secrets have been locked away in a safe depository so mote it be
good questions, to which could be added – did anyone invest in Blu or H hotels? And if not who has title to them?
As ever there is no definite public information to go on so one can only speculate that the assets are now owned by all investors – effectively diminishing the value of their investment to a fraction of what they have contributed. The ‘mystery’ financier will presumably want preference and a commercial return for their investment (and a charge over existing assets) further diminishing the value of investors holdings.
The move under the ‘cone of silence’ (remember Man from Uncle?) by Harlequin supporters suggests a certain desperation – but it will probably all stagger on for a little longer yet.
@it really is game over
Are you a member of the RL site.
I would be very cautious about taking to much notice regarding the level of accuracy of these posts.
Since no “investors” in either H-Hotel or Blu have come forth and indeed
there are none and the purchase was made with other monies, then
Harlequin is a case of simple fraud. Lets not forget the properties in
Dubai that were purchased and later re-sold either.
Andy – your formal education is minimal. Why interfere ?
I rise for the third time to ask if anybody has ought to propose for the good of this the Lodge of Harlequin or the craft in general …..
Nearly time to lock up our secrets uniting in the act of …
@GAOTU I am not a memeber of the RL site…but there is nveer any mention of anything other than BB here so why is that? why no accounts being provided or possibly even kept…somethimg to hide maybe…hmmmm well that will unravel as time goes by, but there is deffo the strong look of a fraud
Harlequin as a brand is fatally wounded too much smoke to just blow away
@it really is game over
You should be a member you would be treated as a brother 😉
As the majority of the investors do not have title I fail to see how they can own any assets in BBay or any of the other Harlequin projects. The investors are not even preferential creditors in the pecking order should the SVG Harlequin company (or companies) be placed in Receivership and dissolved. As mentioned before, who knows what about the other Harlequin companies (and individuals) in the Caribbean that make up this web of deceitfulness and duplicity?
My guess is DA will let it go ‘tits up’ and buy it back for tuppence ha’penny under the guise of another company. It’s a marvellous debt-shedding exercise if ever there was one because it gets rid of all the major creditors AND those ‘pesky’ investors.
I can sympathise with most of the investors who now find themselves between a rock and a hard place, especially those who trusted the Ames family, the Harlequin agents and IFAs. What double-dealing scum they are!
Are you professionally qualified to give such an opinion?
@ GAOTU…maybe I am a member…but was taught to cautious at my initiation…….I am an honest one and did think ishonesty was frowned upon especially from within, maybe the cable tow and high water mark are round the corner for those dishonest brothers.
It really is game over …
Is not the penalty symbolic ?
@ Fidelity etc sadly true, but maybe now would a good time for it to become a reality
@ Erica Broughton [I know it is not she]
November 23, 2013 at 2:08 pm
Why do you ask if I am professionally qualified? What’s it to you?
Eddie – whether you are qualified or not is irrelevant.
This mess is now moving in a different direction.
@ FFF
You are absolutely right!
@It really is game over
Of course, and we are on the side of Brotherly love, Relief and above all Truth.
S&F
Questions for anyone who knows the answers:
1 – Harlequin SVG (DA) will “quit-claim” to a group of investors from
any and all Harlequin properties the “title” to the public areas at
Buccament Bay…is this correct?
2 – By doing this they relinquish the ability to sue DA directly for three
years and are in effect altering their contracts…is this correct?
3 – Since there are on-going court cases in SVG and not all “investors”
will be in the trust they can pursue Harlequin individually…is this correct?
4 – Since no investors have come forward as having invested in either
H-Hotel or Hotel Blu and if this is a fact, all the investors not a part of
the trust cash immediately sue DA for having used their money
fraudulently. ( I suppose this should also include the Dubai properties.)
…is this correct.
If all four questions are correct, wouldn’t it be better to not be part of
the trust?
Anonymous
November 23, 2013 at 5:51 pm
Hello Paddy/ Erica feeling lonely are we? Never mind Paddy may buy you something else, gastric band maybe?
How is you legal fight going 😉
-TS
Sorry dude. I am anon 5:51 and am sitting in my home in Miami. I’ve
never been to Ireland and England only once passing through Heathrow.
My questions are sincere and I don’t know the answers with any
certitude.
Of course you are.
TS – How’s this:
University of Miami is leading Virginia 24-13 with 12 minutes to go
in the 3rd Qtr.
TS give it a rest will ya? FFS! You is so boring.
The internet a wonderful thing, even Wigan gets a mention.
Weather in Wigan Cloudy 4C 😉
Looking at a bird table
It has been my sense for half a dozen months now that TS & fdnrm
are nothing but thugs in the employ of Boss Ames.
It has been my sense for half a dozen months now that the Broughtons
are nothing but fat thugs in the employ of Paddy O’ Halloran.
So we have something in common, no?
What’s he paid for recently? How is the medication working Erica? Ironing is that a seasonal thing?
TS… you are a total prick, jail would be too good for you
Well he certainly took up the slack left by the departure of Bob Storey.
ps. Hurricanes 45 / Cavaliers 20.
Ames is currently offering the common areas of Buccament Bay on the “Registered” land into the trust. This does not include Tennis Courts, Football Pitches etc or indeed most of the restaurants.
Ames is looking to have investors undertake not to sue him for a period of 5 years and not 3. Please see Guardian Letter.
5 years will make it too late to sue Ames after this date.
Any investor who does not join the trust can take an action against Ames and Harlequin.
The trust does nothing to protect investors interests. The plan by Ames would be to attempt to raise finance ( not guaranteed by any means) complete units and then get the 70% completion money from the purchasers. No guarantees, sorry no guaranteed mortgage. So if in 5 years time the investor cannot raise the 70% completion money, investor looses their 30% trust or no trust.
And Ames reserves the right to come after you for mortgage payments historically made on your behalf.
Fatchett wants SIPP holders to make a complaint to HMRC amongst others.
Fatchett states that the units were sold improperly, so as a result any investor who writes to HMRC will in all probability be taxed at 40% of their SIPP investment.
So investors run the risk of loosing a further 40% on top of their current losses.
Some Rescue.
The trust benefits Ames only.
Anon – Thank you. It appears to be an exercise in futility. I have just
one question. If Ames/Harlequin did purchase H-Hotel and Blu with
investors money can the non-trust investors sue for the equity in those
two properties?
Could it be that Fatchett/RL is more of a gift bearing Greek than the
candidate for canonization he is being made into on the RL site?
Oh Paddy talking to yourself. Its just you and fatty Erica. The rest of us come come on here to take the piss out of you.
A relatively easy option would be to join forces with a few other investors and obtain a freezing order against Ames’s Caribbean assets.
Neither RL nor Ames/Harlequin have referred to the ongoing criminal investigation by the SFO.
The creation of the trust will have no impact on the criminal investigations.
The SIPP providers will not budge. Some SIPP holders on the RL site stated that they will give Fatchett pink slips regardless of what their SIPP provider says, sadly Fatchett knows that these pink slips will not be worth the paper they are written on as they must be sanctioned by the SIPP trustees.
The trust only benefits Ames. There is no benefit accruing to investors.
Anon – l am amazed that your “relatively easy option” has not been
seized on before now. Decisive action should be the trump card.
It is gradually dawning on Mr. Fatchett that a rescue of Ames and Harlequin is becoming increasingly unlikely.
There is no doubt that the only ones to benefit from the trust would have been Ames.
The trust cannot succeed for a number of reasons as borne out by the Guardian SIPP response.
The creation of what is in all essence an Unregulated Collective Investment Scheme precludes the SIPP trustees from engaging by law.
RL have stated that they are going to ask the FCA and HMRC for permission to allow this.
The FCA nor HMRC will not give permission, how could they?
@ Anonymous 10.00pm, The freezing order route has already been used to great effect by Carter Lemon Cameron in the UK.
The posts of a rather fat Irish robbing twat and his fat accomplice, Erica freebie Broughton.
Getting a bit rattled eh?
Carter Lemon Cameron, yes I know all about that.
They will need very deep pockets indeed, this case is going to trial make
no doubt about that 🙂
Security of costs and the legals will be enormous – ask Paddy to Pay!
Great effect for who? The Solicitors?
Sleep well.
Sure you will all find the ongoing fees for CLC somehow.
How much have you paid already, close to £10,000 – for what may I ask?
Good night 🙂
Katherine – “this case is going to trial make no doubt about that”.
Fabulous – then all the money can be accounted for. I find the
British system of justice puzzling if what you and others keep saying is
that “you are to poor to afford protection under the law”. You really
are a twisted woman.
“you are to poor to afford protection under the law”.
It’s Too 🙂
Tut, tut, the uneducated & unwashed.
Honey – Princess Margaret died years ago…find a new schtick !!!
Is the statute of limitations not 3 years or something in most islands? If Ames cannot be pursued for 5 years, does that not mean that he cannot be pursued at all after that time? It does seem the trust is designed to benefit him and Harlequin more than anyone else. The contracts are all investors have and they have been breached. They can sue for money back now. I get that RL think that by fixing the business it may be worth more and investors collectively can then get their hands on more, but in doing so to forego contractual rights seems nuts to me. What is the point of the contract if it is being ignored/modified? To let the developer off the hook in this way makes no sense at all.
You clearly do not understand how a limitation standstill agreement works.
You want there to be a problem, so you can suggest bad things. Naughty as the uneducated (although there are only a few left here now) will believe it.
I am glad that you have mentioned UCIS. Of course a trust holding security via mortgagees, with the management of the property being independent would not be a CIS. S235 FSMA 2000 and PERG worth a look.
Sounds good to call things a UCIS. However , we all know that the number of people who understand CIS is minimal.
No ones on this site, that’s for sure.
RL have one aim and one aim only. To get the mailing list of SIPP investors. The setting up of the trust and the resultant surrender of contractual rights is merely the price to achieve their aim.
They have stated on their own forum that they will have no involvement in the trust after it is set up. Even those gullible suckers who post on that forum know the trust will be totally ineffectual without RL and yet they still pay homage to the “messiah”. It’s hard to feel sorry for them when they make it so clear they are gagging to be taken again.
Oh dear Paddy talking to yourself again, what’s up Erica fell out with you?
Poor Paddykins having a little tantrum are we?
Especially for Erica:
I am sick to death of any mention of that Woman; she is the one alongside that fat Irish twat who want to bring Harliquin down, the sick pair of fat fucks.
Its my money they are fucking with.
Erica…exposes (with others) the massive fraud that HP/DA is…no wonder the HP bastards dont like her
The Irish builder…saw the opportunity to steal…let me see 1% of the stolen money was it but gets blamed for bringing down the £400 million scam…so now its all his fault
Jail all the HP bastards (inc Nuneaton Bob) and throw the key away
Paddy and Erica are irrelevant.
Anyone who stolen money should be in jail, even the ones who took the stolen money for holidays etc. etc. 🙂 If you follow my gist.
Indeed, would you be referring to, among other things, the holidays
O’ Halloran paid for Erica? Plus of course many many other inducements.
All very repugnant.
This is Bob Lidels double:
@TS
‘Plus of course many many other inducements.
All very repugnant.’
TS You’ve been alluding to these ‘paid-for’ holidays for some time now. Can you provide us with any proof regarding this? I think we’d all be quite interested in your reply especially about the ‘many many other inducements’. All very well saying it’s repugnant but do please try and tell us why.
BTW Disclaimer: I hold Irish Builder in the same league as Ames & Co
OMG! that is Pervy Bob
All should read a fresh article BFP posted earlier today ref: the
diving accident at Buccament Bay. It asks some very pertinent
questions. Bottom line is that BB should immediately stop all
diving activity.
I bet Katherine replies with smarmy insouciance…
Blue forms – over 2000 received we understand.
Far from it; the diving should continue we don’t stop flying because of a crash do we?
You would have made a fantastic social director on the Titanic
no you stop stop flying because of a crash, but it is suspended until the full reasons for the crash are investigated and any action to prevent it again are put in place….so yes it should be stopped until the reasons are known and any remedial action taken.
Pretty soon you will need to be a diver to find BB, as it will have sunk deep into oblivion.
So, that must mean we close the Philippines down to tourism?
Let’s shut down SVG down; the rest of the island is certainly not a very nice place – most uncivilised to an experienced traveler like me.
Any diver would be cautious about diving in svg until the facts are published…..As a diver I would want to be sure that staff are fully aware of the symptoms and treatment of compression sickness and that the correct treatment given. so whilst the event happened at BB, I would be cautious about diving in svg full stop. This has highlighted the need for the medical facilities in svg to be aware of what at least is needed to treat an injured diver (that doesnt mean they have to have a decompression chamber….just be aware of how to treat and the urgencey to send a dive to the nearest one.)
The fact it happened at BB, doesnt surprise me as it does seem that corners are being cut.
The Pimlico Flats forum continues to provide interesting reading – including a reproduction of the Guardian letter to RL. If you are interested and haven’t read it start at
http://www.pimlico-flats.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1838&start=280
if for no other reason that you will be able to follow the progress of one poster from HP fanboy to considerable sceptic. The correspondence there also seems to confirm the opinion that the creation of the Trust is far more for the benefit of HP than for individual investors. Also reiterates that any incoming investor (rescue finance) will want commercial and legal precedence over existing investors. It increasingly looks as if existing investors are faced with the reality of a very long wait for only the smallest chance of a return – and a write down of their initial investment to a very small proportion of the original sum invested.
More worryingly still (in the overall picture) is that all parties still seem to be committed to the original business plan, without any kind of demonstrable proof that there is a demand for the product. Will January 2014 be the final curtain?
I prefer to take notice of my legal team rather than listen to some no mark people on a blog.
Look where ignoring “no mark people” has got you so far. These no marks, who include residents, citizens and developers in the islands have been warning about HP for 8 years. They know a lot more about what is happening in the Caribbean than a UK based lawyer, that is for sure.
Such a pink mound, of returns to RL – The Trust is happening.
Now here is a blast from the past:
Click to access showroom_launch.pdf
Note the reference to the purchase of Petit Nevis, charmingly called “Harlequin Island” in the brochure. I am guessing this must be from 2008, when it was announced that Harlequin had bought Petit Nevis. Subsequently, it was reported that they had not.
Is this the island where Mr Ames is purportedly having a house built with assistance from David Campion?
Did the Harlequin investors pay for the purchase of the island?
no thats bequia – he certainly never bought petit nevis …….
Mr Ames said he had bought it:
http://www.fly-2let.co.uk/news5.html
Surprise to come?
If the trust is established the investors signs away their right to go after Ames. They will get some pathways and public areas worth nothing as security in exchange of signing away their legal rights. Mr and Mrs Ames continues to collect the funds, now from the sale of lodge and food over the normally very busy Christmas and new year season, probably a few million EC$, and thereafter closes down the resort in mid January 2014 due to poor business and restructuring, leaves St Vincent with unpaid bills and unpaid wages.
What a surprise this would be for investors who joins the trust and Mr and Mrs Ames can live happily on the last collected funds for another few years whilst the participants in the trust need to sort out the mess they are involved in.
Before you sign on to the trust celebrate your holidays and await the outcome of BB drama until at least 15th of January.
Hello Paddy, you’re really scrapping the barrel now, gave me a laugh 😉
Must really piss you off that Dave sold your assets lol……
Maybe, more talk of the poor diver next?
Just in case you forgot:
@ TS…Erica may be minor, but she certainly keeps your bars rattled….and behind bars you and the other fraudseters at HP shopuld be…it will come…keep looking over your shoulder coz one day justice will be there
Maybe it is jealiously as secretly you have desires on her…..no she has morals, which is something you will never have
certainly Erica has been vocal but to no financial gain Why cant you leave her alone ? does she affect you so much ,you who are a multi investor?
That’s Dave Ames’ voice which can be heard egging on the Irish builder. They stood there together on the beach being filmed it’s just that with careful editing you can only see Ames’ hand come into shot and not his face. Lying Together might be a more appropriate title.
@TS
Just in case you forgot…perhaps you’d also care to share and post the interview Dave Ames gave to a well-known radio station boasting that he was, ‘ just putting the finishing touches’ to the marina at Buccament Bay.
And another thing TS your vilification of Mrs Broughton is absolutely vile. You are revolting and pig ignorant. How would you like it if your own mother or child was treated in such a derogatory manner?
Dave Ames also said he bought the beach in Brazil. Apparently he flew over it in his helicopter and it was so lovely that he landed on the beach and bought it straight away. However, that clip has been removed from the internet now. How convenient. I expect someone somewhere has got a copy though. 😉
A question of morals:
Is it morally wrong to take money from someone you know to have embezzled it?
To mock handicapped children?
@mulder and scully
Leave her alone, after the upset and trouble she caused? The people she attacked, the wild insane statements ?
Give me a case for ‘leaving her alone’ and I will consider it.
Things should start popping once the cursed “trust’ is set up
and effectively emasculates over half the investors. Then those with
far more considered agendas will spring into action. It going to bet
interesting shortly.
ps – it seems that Bob Storey has done a 180 degree and joined the “trust”.
Thus in a week he will be totally neutered.
Brazil – that splendid video can be downloaded from https://anonfiles.com/file/0876011f0e3101e3980826ac202deed2
Look like Bob PHIG is set for a takeover:
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/903758111
RAL Property Ltd……….. Is this the new Harlequin?
Hopefully tomorrow, have a memory stick of the recording of the IFA & SIPP provider meeting held the other week ,nearly four hours is not something I can download!
Anyhow, the plot thickens.
The options I have since found out about:
An IFA led takeover, no; this is not a joke. This would be ‘spear headed’ by Andy Dunlop an IFA who doesn’t even have a set of ‘proper’ accounts the ones available are showing a loss for the year of around £3000. Maybe no accounts is a bonus HP never had any!!
The other one involved some dodgy Reverend someone or other; I will have more details soon. Allegedly he is not a ‘proper Reverend’ it’s part of a rather dubious sales pitch; he has sold farmland in Argentina……Oh dear. He is very close to a company in the North West who sell SCS Farmland in…….. Yep Argentina….. they were at the meeting!!
I know it sounds like I’m making this up, but sadly, it’s true; albeit the details are a little lacking at the moment – when I get them, I will update you all.
You mean TM in Warrington,
They were all chummy with a Rev, but I can state for the record his name was NOT Flowers and he did now work for the Co. Op ethical bank 🙂
This is the one.
http://www.tm-ai.com/scs.html
Looks like another car crash in process.
Andy Dunlop aka one man band with no real accounts or company.
The master of Harlequin takeover
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07386074/PEARLY-GRAY-LIMITED
That’s it for now, as you can see we have nothing to worry about between Busybody Bob and Andy ‘asset’ Dunlop Harlequin will be in safe hands.
Who needs all these fancy solicitor types!
@SGD Dave Ames says a lot of things most of them lies He did not buy petit Nevis
Another Bob Busybody look a like.
All,
SIPP
We have drafted the SIPP response to Guardian. This will be sent and published on the site tomorrow.
We feel that the technical issue can be dealt with and subject to some technical drafting, we feel that we can satisfy the SIPPs.
We have been briefed on the “other options” referred to by Guardian. These options were spoken about last week at the agents / IFA / SIPP meeting on the 20th. No outline proposal, technical legal advice or structure has been proposed as an alternative to the trust. Therefore, we continue down the road to establishing the Investor Trust. Both ourselves and Harlequin have significant legal resource to call upon. We can assure you we have considered every option to seek to, offer investors more security.
The proposals we have been told about involve transfers of land (significant stamp duty) & company structures will involve an “equity swap” requiring a Financial Promotion. In theory, the suggestions were “options”. In practice, complete none starters.
Pink Forms
Harlequin are sending us 500 or so forms this week. We continue to receive batches of new forms everyday. We are on target to declare on the 2nd.
We cannot be complacent as we need everyone to respond. There are going to be stragglers and next week we will publish our position with regard to late joiners.
Conclusion
We are hoping that the SIPP companies will be pragmatic and positive to avoid the need for FCA intervention. If we need to call on the FCA / HMRC then we will not hesitate to do so.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Another porkie pie from Fatchett?
Both RL and Harlequin have significant legal resource they can call upon………
Thought Fatchett said Ames and Harlequin were broke and we the investors have to pay for the trust valuations etc.
So where is Harlequin and or Ames getting the money to allow him to call upon his significant legal resource?????
Again more BULLSHIT from Fatchett.
Its one or the other Garreth.
And how many of the pink slips are SIPP holders, and how many of Harlequin’s 500 are genuine and not agents and employees????
Looks like Ames got alot of support then. Under 10%. Does not say much for him.
500 in the last week. Way more blue slips though. Odd that.
RL ain’t broke. Look at the R Legal Limited accounts. Cash at bank etc.
They just don’t fancy paying for the freeloaders.
Erica,
You are mad.
As a box of frogs
TailorMade offering to invest your SIPP in a Company called Physical Gold Ltd.
The must surly have million’s in reserves? its a safe investment??
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/06776948/PHYSICAL-GOLD-LIMITED/financial-accounts#financials
http://www.physicalgold.co.uk/blog/
All that glitters is not gold!!!!!!!!!
I have looked at the Powerscourt Services Limited accounts. One of the directors is Robert Van de Weyer.
Click to access BiT_Winter_2009_Weyer.pdf
He is against “usary”. For the uneducated :-
“Usury (/ˈjuːʒəri/[1][2]) is the practice of making unethical or immoral monetary loans”
If he is the saviour, then we are saved.
I hope you are not inferring that they are not a Christian company set out to take advantage of the needy by being a man of the cloth!
Don’t mention the Co-Op Bank and Mr Flowers please 😉
Far too many ‘Bob’s’ for me, Baldy Bob, Busybody Bob, Bible Bashing Bob
Don’t forget potty Bob
Bob from Blackadder ?
Does Bob have a cunning plan ?
Erica is getting desperate
@ESTW.
That’s untrue, she was always been a bit wobbley.
When her and portly Paddy ‘get jiggy with it’ the World moves.
Baldy Bob Shaw with the sissy Scott 🙂 how the mighty fall
Click to access Newsletter2.pdf
My financial advisor who guided me into this mess is also called Bob. It seems to me that all Bob things related to Harlequin are jinxed!
This is on another blog 🙂
One of the ‘other solutions’ was offered by this company:
http://www.powerscourtservices.com/
Okay, few hundred quid website, but let’s look a little further
https://www.duedil.com/company/06061474/powerscourt-services-limite…
£100k cash hardly enough to take over a £400 million company?
Let’s not mention things like experience, legals, or support structures. A little bit of a silly idea.
They again like our friends, Pearly Gray Ltd, Mr Bob Liddell, Powerhouse don’t have a ‘proper’ set of accounts.
Now in this little cosy meeting were TailorMade.
Yes the very ones who sell SCS Farmlands in Argentina, ran by Powercourt services Ltd
TM also sell gold all sound very grandiose and high flying
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/06776948/PHYSICAL-GOLD-LIMITED/fi…
Surprised they don’t have assets of millions!
Hang on….another wonderful investment from TailorMade
http://companyrescue.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/green-oil-plantations-i…
They also sold property in Cyprus, that errrm also went a little bit wrong.
Maybe, they would like to submit a proper business plan so RL can have a good laugh, ooops sorry review of the competition.
Result:
Send a loaf and a fish, plus £20 to Rev. RWB Van De Weyer he has a plan; to refund the 5000.
TM will of course take their commission out of the £20, but never fear that will leave 10p.
The Great Rev. RWB Van De Weyer will then perform a miracle, he will turn the 10p into a rescue plan for Harlequin.
The fish and loaf, that’s just a prop.
Keeps growing just like Mrs.B
Paddy and Mrs. B are at such a loss, lost for words 🙂 so the comfort eat.
Whatever will they dream up next?
Even FDNRM got bored and moved over to the righteous side.
Bob FDNRM was not all bad, consistent.
Is Fatchett for real. In his letter to Guardian today he states now that Harlequin have some 4000 investors of which some 2000 are SIPP’s. A few weeks ago it was 5700.
Oh well its really immaterial now. The SFO are continuing their investigation. Trust or no Trust Ames is finished.
SFO Investigation = No Finance. But Fatchett knows this. Are not 7 capital his clients? are they not the potential Financiers? Is this a conflict of interest perhaps?
And what’s with all the waffle about HMRC. Fatchett states most SIPP’s were sold wrongly. Hmmmm so HMRC will come after investors for 40% of the monies they paid.?
Fatchett thinks not. He should stop thinking and perhaps consider asking HMRC to reduce this to writing. more BS from Fatchett.
Asking the FCA and HMRC to in essence save Ames’s little ass is frankly absurd, bizarre and comical.
Erica – sshh
Please leave RL alone, they are great lawyers. Delivering Harlequin for a song. That’s great performance for us.
Erica, why not tell the Law Society ? You could also unburden your other fantasies on them.
Oh dear lord.
I did think Bob was a mason. Clearly not.
The queen’s English is fascinating (small “q”).
Info for RL and investors:
1. Were the agents/ FS companies/ IFA’s aware of some of the concerns being raised over 4 years e.g forums on signing pig/ trip advisor etc ( i know they were shut down but they did have some valid questions that have since proven to be VERY valid? did they ignore them?)
2. were they aware of the existing court cases already in existence at this time ? did they contact the solictitors in question?.
3. how may warnings did the FSA now FCA receive before issuing their warning re harlequin?
Successful alternative investments?? all offered in the most part by the same companies who have set up individual ltd companies for each type of investment that they can shut down just before the bubble bursts .
Yes, SIPP trustees/providers should have done more DD in the case of harlequin and to be honest several more very high risk unregulated promotions on offer. were most transfers were done on a non-advised execution only basis (i may be wrong?). who is responsible ?adviser or SIPP ?
Tailor Made at right mess.
You will not survive another visit
http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/tailormade-reviews-harlequin-property-advice/a670278
I will ensure you get one, one call is all it will take me.
It’s not what you know, but who.
I know a lot 🙂
Who is responsible:
1. Advisor
2. SIPP
3. Government watchdogs absolutely….they don’t do their job!
The RL rebuttal of the points raised by Guardian (SIPP) are now available at the Flats in Pimlico forum (see posts above). Although extensive (running to seven pages) this clearly does not convince the poster, who has advised his family member not to join the Trust.
It does seem to me that HP is so toxic that by association, anyone dealing with them is open to question as to their motives – a point that RL have not addressed. It is, after all, a matter of confidence and quite clearly that is lacking in the ‘rescue’ plan amongst many of the possible participants. How any financier or hotel operator would want to have their name linked to this disaster is beyond me!
You have based you finding on what exactly?
Tailormade &
Lets hear your plans.
Do they involve any Religious brainwashing by the Rev ? Do I have to become a twitcher?
Have 8o’s hair and pervy glasses?
Be bald? Camp, Scottish? Have a loss making business? Sell dodgy investments? Be in administration? Have a history of failed investments plagued with legal action.
Had a visit from the FCA? Drive a a car like I’m James Bond? Do I need to have sold you the product that got you in this mess in the first place?
Sell dodgy stuff in Cypress?
No Due Diligence….on anything…..
You see, the company I have signed up to run the Trust are none of the above and I wonder if I have done the right thing?
They are a respected Law firm, with a healthy cash balance…
So confused.
What a cock
What a shame, where are we now
http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/articles/12021/1/TailorMade-are-bucking-the-trend/Page1.html
How many management 80’s words can Sex God Bob, get into a clip like that!
I need to go off and develop my idea’s, whilst holding my hand in the air, to facilitate my operational mode, so i can break out of that mind set that will help me deliver my goal of moving a tree!
Good God, this guy must have bored TM into submission.
It’s James, just being a bit cheeky!
Dave can you take busybody Bob back, PLEASE all is forgiven we give up.
How is RL protecting any value? There are cautions/liens on various HP assets that are not going to be removed, the businesses themselves lose money, there is no financing (that is a pipe dream, I know form experience that noone will finance anything whilst cautions remain and to remove those will cost many millions), the only value in HP is what there is now – some land and some buildings worth little. BB will not make money in the next few years, it is just the nature of where tourism is in SVG (a large hotel on SVG just makes little sense given all the pertinent factors such as airlift and market demand), and Blu is really not a good hotel and at best would make a few hundred grand a year under a good operator but for the last decade has only lost money (when it was Rainbow and then Village Inn) Harlequin has long been finished, all that remains to be seen is if David Ames goes to prison for this or not. The only thing RL seem to be achieving is delaying this, or stopping it. There is no value to anything Harlequin has done or represents, just what the bits and pieces may be worth. Appreciate RL may be trying to get to a position where someone can come in and run BB properly, and create value. The 240 quid spent will allow a due dilligence process, which will reveal what many people already know and that is stated above. They are giving David Ames a lifeline, and this is what really asks questions of RL.
And you know all this insider info, how? 🙂
No need to worry if all the stress of this kills you the good old directors of TailorMade have a solution
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/08640968/TALKING-WILLS-LIMITED/directors-shareholders
O’ Halloran has put forward a complex plan to Tailormade – a hostile take over of Harlequin – they just need to get the right amount of signatures.
Bob Lidell brokered the deal.
I fail to understand how there can be a hostile takeover if
no public shareholders exist. ….. Just wonderin’
all we want is the best outcome for investors.
Hmmm looks like BFP are removing posts ….an earler post of mine would seem to have been removed… maybe calling this a scam is what they dont like…yet you can abuse with foul language posters so long as it not called a scam
just wondering
Anonymous
November 27, 2013 at 11:22 pm
When I said hostile I was referring to the fact they are scheming to kick Ames out and his team out.
O’Halloran (the one with access to cash) would be at the helm. It’s way to personal with him, not about the money.
TM and Bob L are just doing the groundwork for O’ Halloran; they have had several meetings already.
The main problem is RL, so expect more dirty tricks from the Irish one.
Erica Broughton must be going nuts, she is infatuated with O’Halloran but hates TM – she will feel betrayed.
The whole thing has been too much for her, she never stood a chance. The Fat Irish fraudster used her like a whore.
@TS.
No accounting for taste; must feel at home with fat, stupid, common women, who hang on his every word (and wallet)
a brief summary of the accounts: For the Wonder of Warrington Tailor fazed
Ownership
The company is owned by TMAI Limited (maybe worth a look at their accounts if you are interested)
500,000 preference shares were issued during the year. Preference shareholders should get dividends before the ordinary shareholders – its states @ 4% of the nominal value of each share.
Results
The company made a loss of £227k.
£186k of this was due to 2 “one off” transactions – a write off of an intercompany balances & a provision for a contract where the supplier went into administration.
Basically this is saying, yes, we made a loss, but there were reasons for the scale of the loss – which wouldn’t happen in a usual year.
However, there I still c£40k of losses that are not accounted for by these 2 transactions.
The reserves of the company have reduced – as would be expected with the losses, however, the reserves reduced by c£377k meaning a further £150k has been taken from the company – most likely via dividends
Audit
It would appear the company had an audit last year & did not have one the year before. This may be due to them breaching the limits in 2012 – i.e. turnover being above £6.5m and them employing over 50 employees – however without sigh of the financial statements, this is merely speculation.
It could simply be that the parent company chose for them to have one this year – as anyone can have an audit even if they are not required to by law.
Thanks for that, one of my next customers 🙂
All,
Progress
The flow of calls, pink / blue forms continues. We are expecting 800 or so additional forms from Harlequin shortly. Our direction of travel is positive.
If you have not returned your forms then please do so. If you have any queries, please feel free to call us. Our staff are very much looking forward to normal hours from the start of next week.
SIPPs
We have responded to Guardian and asked them to make a decision by close tomorrow. We have sent them the opinion of Queens Counsel to help them. We will be responded to the similar questions issued by Lifetime SIPP tomorrow. Lifetime has also been sent the opinion of Queens Counsel. Opinion of Richard Jones QC – 27th November 2013
Apart from the questions, which we feel we have more than adequately responded to, we still have the rumblings of a very small number of disaffected people to deal with.
“The Disaffected”
The meeting between Harlequin of the 20th November 2013 and the agents / IFA / SIPPs has been well publicised. The number of attendees was not that large. However, many of those in the room came to ask David Ames direct questions as to (a) why he had agreed on a trust / security arrangement and (b) why he had chosen Regulatory Legal and their legal team. There are a number of comments :-
1. RL / Harlequin independently looked at all options to seek to secure investors better protection. The grant of security to a bare trust was the model which was most cost effective and easiest to implement. The Harlequin Investor Trust was not thought up on the hoof, nor was it proposed without careful consideration;
2. RL was not chosen by Harlequin. RL represents a significant number of Harlequin investors alongside any other legal firm interested in the matter. Additionally, RL has both the experience and understanding of dealing with distressed products.
The solution is a legal one. Therefore, the need for fully qualified, authorised and regulated lawyers was paramount. So was the need for independence from Harlequin. RL provide both.
The meeting of the 20th November 2013 was heated as many of the agents / IFA’s in the room were unhappy about the “Redress Option” (blue forms). This is understandable. However, it would be naïve in the extreme to think that the issues around advice / SIPP governance were not going to be raised at some point.
Responses to Queries
RL was delivered questions from a PHIG update – these were responded to within a day – see PHIG Queries. To date the questions posed continue to be posed on the PHIG website. However, disappointingly, the responses (which would provide balance) are not posted. They need to be posted so that investors who do not visit this forum can understand the position. Is there any wonder some investors are dithering when the impression is given that RL are not answering questions ?
RL delivered a very detailed answer to Guardian SIPP. Read it and then ask yourself why Guardian continue to prevaricate.
RL have acquired and delivered the opinion of Queens Counsel to Guardian / Lifetime / Harlequin / PHIG to deal with the technical issues which have arisen.
Alongside this, RL have answered 2000+ phone calls in the month of November 2013 to date.
We feel we have dealt with everything “thrown” at us.
“Other Options”
There are a multitude of options which could be considered if time and cost were no object. We understand that the proposals referred to as “other options” involve :-
(a) a share for contract exchange and then an AIM flotation – putting to one side how the AIM market would feel about a distressed company such as Harlequin, what about the cost ? Financial Promotions ? Stamp Duty ?
(b) a Limited Partner model with the investors having no say, but the management being conducted by agents. This proposal must have been lost in translation. . Without considering the technical issues, the costs and the taxation impact, which investor would want this option ? Not one of the proposers of this “brain wave” has any experience in running a hotel business / development business.
(c) the final model involved the consolidation of SIPP’s into some form of clever group pension scheme. This model would need FCA approval, HMRC approval and more importantly the approval of investors. It would not get it.
Our comments on “Other Options” can be found on our website. Look at the menu tab.
Dealing with the Objections
The primary objectors in our opinion need to understand why their agitation does little more than threaten the investor position. We have dealt with questions / objections methodically and answered them properly. There comes a point when it is obvious that the objections are without sensible foundation and are made with no other intent than to cause problems.
We are naturally very frustrated. However, we are not investors. Investors should be very angry that a few third parties seek to damage their position. To put a stop to this, we will be writing to the main protagonists to invite them to raise their queries constructively. We are going to invite them to attend a meeting with us and our legal team to flush out the issues. It may be that we cannot reconcile the position, however, we are prepared to give it a try. This is our last attempt. We were not allowed to attend the meeting on the 20th November 2013. We would have been prepared to argue our corner as we believe we are right.
Our view is that investors will not for very much longer stand for agitation by parties who in the main, are part of the problem, not the solution.
As we stand today (and so as not to pre-empt our decision on Monday) we will be proceeding with the Investor Trust. The agitators can sit like King Canute watching as the tide comes in around them. They will at that point be irrelevant.
Conclusion
We have yet again invested into this process by getting Queens Counsel to comment on the Harlequin Investor Trust. We have answered everything properly and in the open. Many agents / IFA’s have listened and are working to create the Harlequin Investor Trust. They should be applauded as they have put their differences over the “redress option” to one side for the benefit of investors.
The small minority now need to be shown why their agitation serves no purpose. We will make one last attempt and will be contacting those involved tomorrow. If beyond that point, they continue, then any moral claim they have to be looking after investor interests evaporates.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Come on chaps, lets look at you silly little plans? Maybe, Bob can move a tree? or talk about bees?
The others show how to run companies with huge losses? especially TM 😉
All,
We are digesting the Guardian letter Guardian SIPP – Letter of 28th November 2013. However, two simple conclusions –
(a) Investor Trust – “yes” in principle
(b) Fees coming from SIPP – “yes” in principle
The issue about RL being jointly instructed by Guardian SIPP is a matter we need to carefully consider as this appears to be an attempt to prevent us asking Guardian SIPP to justify their due diligence position.
Our view is that having Guardian “onside” is real progress. Now for the remaining SIPP providers.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Yes to end world hunger – in principle
Yes to end war – in principle
No, to Busybody Bob the bee keeper 100%
Yes to the trust 100%
Bob, you are a Nob
Anonymous (Erica / Silly Mick),
The Guardian letter is a mealy mouth capitulation. RL rolled them.
Another piece in the jigsaw towards the Investor Trust.
Does that mean that the litigation against Silly Mick continue ?
Bob, it is a grey day.
£227k loss by Tailor Made (a loss)
So the The James Bond car, was just showing off?
For the Irish:
British informal have an impressive or sophisticated appearance which belies the fact that there is nothing to substantiate it:
This is an interesting link on the Masons
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/57463.stm
As I understand it the masons moved to force Guardian.
Bro Gareth called on the help of the Grand Lodge.
They said “Whence did you come ?”
Bro Gareth gave the correct answer.
http://illuminazi.blogspot.co.uk/2009/01/uks-masonic-spy-rings.html
Tell me its wrong
I think that this James fellow is a Mason, on the RL he has a blue avatar, some say its a Mason thing.
Was this a threat from a Mason?
James Shaw
November 26, 2013 at 10:50 pm
Tailor Made at right mess.
You will not survive another visit
http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/tailormade-reviews-harlequin-property-advice/a670278
I will ensure you get one, one call is all it will take me.
It’s not what you know, but who.
I know a lot
Paddy ain’t a mason because he’s a left footer.
Erica, your are a woman.
The other main players are on the square. Hence the closing of ranks.
The rumour Is that the regulator had a word ….
S&F
I did read ages ago about Fatchett and others being Masons but did not believe it, is it not just full of crusty old men?
So mote it be …
I bet that QC that did that letter for RL was one they all are.
I totally knew Ames was a Mason, Fatchett had a mason’s tie on, Fatchett now loves Ames.
Walton, Gent, Terry, Ingham all masons.
All fitting together even the SFO not doing anything and Ames stopping Panorama.
Some people wont join now because they are Irish is because of totally religious reasons.
FCA I bet called the SIPPs because they were to to do so, by masons
The investigation into something I ask the police to look I was stopped, bet that was the masons too.
This is all about masons and I will expose them like i did with Harlequin
its a worldwide corruption involving evry thats why Ames gets away with ANYTHING
You cannot stop us….
To order Brethren.
W Bro Walton,
There is a report …
Don’t be disrespectful … Worshipful Brother Jones QC to you, you paddy commoner.
W Bro Fatchett,
Fraternal apologies I had a Knock (pause) Knock (pause) Knock (pause) at the door.
I had a communication that our Brethren from the authorities did indeed take action against those who stand against the Brotherhood.
@W Bro Paul Walton.
Who will be next? Will you be able to make them ‘tow’ the line?
I’m sat here with my slipper on, hopping you can shed some light on this.
Was it just a token of the Brotherhoods powers with Guardian or will it filter down all level of these organisations?
Come on Guys or should I say Cowans?
W Bro Walton, there is a report, W Bro Ames seeking admission with three Brethren from the Financial Conduct Authority.
All that remains……..
Lifetime next W Bro Brethren.
Do you wish to close in the third or use your power as master to resume in the second ?
I would be very disappointed if Bob the Bee was on the square with the rest of us..
W Bro Shaw – that looks very much like the apron for a PAGDC. Did you hold it as active rank?
I have since been promoted, but prefer not to divulge my current rank.
What do you conceal.
Is this you James:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/33rd_Initiation.htm
W Bro Shaw (or, perhaps by now VW Bro) – many congratulations.
I hele and conceal … any part or parts, point or points of the secrets or
mysteries …
This is disgusting, the more I read I totally know whats going on, just because i am a woman do not dare think i wont find you all out with your funny hand shakes and witchcraft. I think the only people who will expose you is the RC Church – your Satanic worshiping in 2014 is not allowed nor is animal sacrifices in your 33rd degee.
Racist as well not many ethnic minorities ay? gays no, just a white elitist organisation.
Ames will not get away with the rest of you stealing pensions an covering up i am on your case, dont you worry about that.
I will find a newspaper who will not be scared of you all, then you will be sorry. sick of the lot of you
it all makes sense now what you have been doing
Happy to meet….Sorry to part…..
S&F
And happy to meet again!
S&F, and I bid you good night.
….and as the runaway train heads towards the buffers, the band continues to play. All aboard are about to lose everything.
For those who have not read the correspondence between RL and Guardian (inc the QC’s letter) –
http://www.pimlico-flats.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1838&sid=51a8ae8facc5f1b921658fd56a541a0d&start=360
ably summed up by Nick –
“I don’t see how anyone can make any decisions before the Mortgagee is identified, and the terms of the mortgage published.”
As a bystander it all looks to me like nothing more than rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
@BBW
I would rarther stick with the opinion of a QC thank you very much, not someone with a silly name on a blog.
And a fellow brother.
Pearly Gray Ltd. have filed to be struck of Companies House, then the company it will be dissolved.
This means if nobody has a valid reason to object to this, the company has gone!
You have 3 months.
Perish the thought this could be just in case they have any claims made against them.
The other Pension companies who don’t fall in line, will be very foolish indeed.
SIPP companies and TM will all end up in Liquidation, the question is; are they so stupid they can’t see it?
hypothetical thoughts.Mr X starts an investment company with the best intentions but due to poor management and other reasons runs into trouble has financial and legal problems but with help from others just about survives ,so far. Mr Y sets up a ponzi outfit knowing one day it will end in tears.knowing this he sets in place at the very outset the end game,to include all the legal people likely to be called on maybe the legal people for both sides? Is it possible this could work? what do others think? all totally hypothetical of course
Does DA /Harlequin own all the land at BB that will be held as security by the Trust?
Shipleys latest report on HMSSE ltd available to view on their website.
Is the Irish builder a mason?
@yatinkiteasy
– and the status of the Crown Land built on without planning permission? The Alien Land Holders Licenses should show all the details, except of course that Dave is now Citizen Dave and as a national wouldn’t need one, which is rather convenient.
Anyone with an ounce of sense would send someone out here to find out what’s going on but heh no one as ever bothered with due diligence in the past so why start now?
-The View etc – interesting point. Has Fatchett, the seeming salvation
to all things Harlequin even been to SVG?
Yes – Gareth Fatchett has been and done due diligence
The man must be blind.
We know he has been because according to some Ames, Walton, Fatchett, Ingham and Ghent had a Masonic dinner at the resort!
I believe Mason’s eat children is that true?
Ye Mystique Lodge of Garifuna
The Wm. Has asked that your prove yourselves craftsmen
What about Simon Terry – mason ?
Yes he’s a mason but no use to the group now as Gareth is the alpha male legally now – Ingham is the most senior mason, ask Erica, she made a complaint to the police about him and they wouldn’t investigate it ( well brushed it under the carpet) Erica will confirm this for you!
Ingham is the real deal. Watch the masons become the trustees.
Bob the Bee may be the token none mason. The again …..
Bob the Bee is a weird chap. Upset about losing his subscriptions.
Wm Ames promised him a little something in return for his loyalty.
Bob the Bee is now out of control. What a rimmer !
Bob is now to be found playing with his bees & moving trees on grey days.
@Boaz
Ingham has now got the police watching Erica, when they found his Masonic rank
The fact that Pearly Gray Ltd. is being struck off (and we were made aware of it)
We know all about TM and what will happen next.
The SIPP’s will all follow next week Guardian was first because it was a woman.
Don’t you think it would be fair to say we are in the know 🙂
I acknowledge the correctness of the sign. Pass Boaz.
Police will ignore Erica. Paddy needs a new Patsy.Bob the Bee ?
SCS farmland.
Busy Body Bob Mate,
Conflicts of land tenure – small farmers are driven off the land: It is not unusual that in dubious transactions investors acquire land titles on land where small farmers (with rights of possession – legal occupation through “posesion veinteañal”, but without land title) have lived for decades and have always tilled the soil. There have been situations of confrontation between small farmers and bulldozers deployed for woodland clearance. In most cases, there simply is no public cadastre that would bring about a clear legal situation. One major obstacle to ensuring more legal certainty for small farmers is that land owners have to pay the costs of any land survey and of the legal procedure to acquire a land title themselves, which small farmers simply cannot afford. So they just stay on the land they have been occupying, hoping they will be left in peace – a hope which is more and more often frustrated as a result of the advancing agro frontier in the Chaco. The new owners typically submit a legal application for “restitution of property”, which, if granted, means that the small farmers can be evicted. And if a small farmer’s cattle, which traditionally are allowed to roam freely, gets onto a neighbouring large-scale plantation, it is simply killed – which means that the small farmers lose what little they own.
I advised Taylor Fazed to adopt a ‘holistic, cradle-to-grave approach’ so that’s why the now opened a new company Talking wills.
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/08640968/TALKING-WILLS-LIMITED/directors-shareholders#people-summary
Now, after Taylor (in Administration & cocked it all up) what to carry on shafting you when you are dead!
Who would trust them?
Blue Sky thinking – a fascinating post. But what exactly are you
talking about? How does it relate to Harlequin? Brazil properties,
Dominican properties or/SVG. Please explain.
Have a look at:
Don’t cry for me Argentina (Farmlands)
November 26, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Could anybody come up with a logical reason why the King of management speak, Bob Ladell; aka ‘Busybody Bob’ hasn’t put the answers to the questions PHID asked?
Reg Legal answered them last Sunday.they STILL have not been posted.
Possible scenario’s
1. He is miffed that his little plan of subscriptions failed
2. The Irish builders involvement
3. TaylorMade (in Liquidation) Pearly Gray (being struck off – told him not to
4. He is too busy moving trees
Bob, you are on my radar 🙂
Great news – the posters on here are 95% organised to make this thread less relevant to the Irish Builder.
Its working. So mote it be…
I had a communication passed down from way above my level, to have a look at TaylorMade. I won’t say who I work for – but I now have enough to make a move.
It’s them or me.
This is a part of our vows:
having my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by its roots
Bro. D Ames is also a senior member of the following, why do you think the Irish builder never stood a chance?
http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/orange.html
Remember operation Orange -It’s DA having a laugh 😉
I got a call from a ‘higher up’ to post on this blog, I work for the Cheshire Police? I don’t know why?
The plod – it’s a good place for a work shy copper from Cheshire to waste his day! The morbidly obese retards from Ashton in Makerfield have already wasted Greater Manchester Police trying to pursue a ghost in Richard Ingham.
Saying that crack on your a bunch of dimwits will give you something to do that won’t entail a lot of effort.
Hopefully when the unknowingly neo-colonials finish with their
idiotic Masonic crap and go on to other equally idiotic pursuits this thread
will get back to comment on Harlequin and the damage done to the
islands.
SVG is a shit hole of the islands – was before Buccament Bay and will be after all this – full of uneducated, unfriendly, criminals just looking for something for nothing. Nothing Harlequin has done has made it worse!
Ecps – 30% of what you just wrote I agree with…..
True, the most damage has been done to naive UK investors who were ripped off. SVG will always have BB, long after investors have lost it all and Ames is in prison. St Lucia will continue to be a stunning spot, great for holidays and for investment in the right product, Dom Rep won’t skip a beat about people being ripped off in the UK, Barbados also will not be affected – so obvious was the con, real investors won’t really worry about Harlequin’s antics. The bay at Buccama has been negatively impacted due to constant sewage being pumped into it and it remains to be seen if any affect will come from all the foreign sand (SVG based people can perhaps comment on the negative impact on SVG) Jobs were given to people which is good, although many local suppliers are not paid so they are out of pocket. Harlequin has made the SVG government look a little daft with their unwavering support of a business that raises its money for Buccament in the way it does (by using funds from sales on other islands) The jobs will be there long term though, and governments change. Those who really are up the creek are those who invested and have stood by and let themselves be taken for a ride whilst Ames and his cronies fill their boots.
Anon 1:14 —99.9% agree with that !!!!!!!!
Check out Prestige Real Assets ltd you may see some one you know also some sales patter may ring a bell.They say best place to hide a tree is in the woodlands dont they??
Cold light of day – pray tell ?
Mike Withey director one time of Invest5star
BB talk of it becoming a Masonic retreat for poorly Brethren, we have the members worldwide and the money.
That deal would work, providing you are on the level..
Bob PHIG, O’Halloran and Taylormade had a meeting at TM’s offices last Friday.
What scheming scum.
Bob is not on the level with us. He “came” from nowhere. Maybe someone sent him to attack our master ?
He looks ineffective . A committee man. A man who loves a meeting for the sake of meeting.
I smell danger. Is the Lodge properly tiled ?
Bro. Masonic Power.
The Lodge is properly tiled, fear not.
We will not allow our Master to be attacked, I have started the ”distress call’, to assist in this matter.
I have sent out the call “by signs”.
The brethren are responding. I expect to see various senior masons rallying to our cause.
For those of you that doubt the power of Freemasons:
http://www.trutv.com/conspiracy/bizarre/masons/gallery.html?curPhoto=13
Have you noticed James Shaw’s apron on the RL blog, hiding in plain sight?
What’s with all this Masonic crap? Do you ever think you will be taken seriously? You still have an investment worth nothing. And a ‘Trust’ where you cannot even trust each other. Idiots!
This is from a blog for people who are being bullied by Masons.
Read more:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=26698.0;wap2
Paul A Walton = AAA have you ever noticed his watch and ring all blue, he publicly admitted to having been a Mason for over 30 years.
Ingham made comments about Erica’s bird table.
Harlequins – what more proof do you need?
Masons are mad about the colour Blue. This is the dominant colour (Royal Blue) in Freemasonry. Anonymous FMs said look in the front or rear of their gardens and you will find Blue ceramic plant-pots or Blue bird baths/feeders. Or Blue vehicle .Blue clothes pegs (yes we’ve got it on video) Police (boys in Blue), Blue house numbers at their home or business. Blue background to their business signs or adverts. Blue painted gates and doors. The Masons normally have something Blue (at front/rear of house) that lets other pretend brothers know they are Masons. Blue items on car dash/rear shelf (no parking ticket).
Masons like Jesters, Harlequins, Punch n’ Judy. They are crazy about grid reference numbers and longitude and latitude references (lots of historical facts and events of these).
More Masonic Codes; If you know any Masonic families, the whole family will have an “A” in their christian names. The only exception if they already have an “A” in their surname. The A represents the “All Seeing Eye”
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14079
This is worth a read, a need for caution?
Blue Forms – Gareth Ward Fatchett – AAA as well.
Dave Ames -AA
Dan Ames -AA
Matt Ames – AA
Richard Ingham – AA
Who lives in Blue Bell Wood? You could not make this up.
This is how Ames has managed to keep out of trouble for so long.
@SIGO
Richard Ingham AAA
Gareth Ward Fatchett AAA
Paul Anthony Walton AAA
Triple A’s
Triple the code of A = 1 triple it
3 of them, 33 degree highest Masonic degree
333 +333 = 666 Mark of the Devil
3 x 333 = 999 Emergency services = Help
Invert 999 = 666
3 of them 3rd Degree
333 / 3 = 111 add 1+1+1 = 3 3rd degree
All hidden in plain sight.
Looks very sensible to me. Someone should ask them on RL site
So what we saying here? That a trust involving high ranking masons running the trust is a good thing for the rest of us – if so I have no issue with Fatchett, Ingham, Walton being on the board. I’m sure they are doing more to resolve than harm?
Could anyone imagine any financier wanting anything to do with Harlequin with the comments on this site being the most prolific example of what those connected with Harlequin are about?
It’s truly unbelievable the damage being compounded here. Utter stupidity.
Having read these masonic links I would rather have them in my corner than against me.
Why not?
Anon- RU – like financiers read this blog!! It’s a big load of bullshit – you numb arse dimwit! Ha ha ha what a nob you are!
@ECPS
The RL blog, yes I can see that – on here no way 🙂
Some of the financiers are senior masons. Erica did say Fatchett acts for seven capital. Technically no, however, they are both subjects of the great architect of the universe.
@Anon…reasons unknown, I totally agree..was probably the reason that FDRM, Harlisuccess and others were ordered to shut up.
Still , the Masons spin is just another distraction being put out there to provide a smokescreen for the real issues involving Investors and Harlequins failing enterprise in the Caribbean. Time will tell.
The RL blog can best be summed up as group of investors that have
been conned but have decided to forego legal redress for some sort
of pie-in-the-sky “trust” that legally forgives the one who fleeced them
for a period of five years in the ridiculous hope that there is a white-knight
saviour galloping around somewhere in money-land that will save them
all……….sort of a Stockholm Syndrome by Proxy.
The mind boggles !!!
Listen, “erica cooks paddys sock” (Christ, even your name revolts me, let alone your ignorance); you have no idea the level of due diligence that would be carried out prior to a multi-million pound investment in to a non-existant business in such a shed load of trouble such as Harlequin. Something like a trillion times the level of due diligence carried out by every single Harlequin investor.
Any prospective investor that did carry out even a minuscule amount of DD didn’t invest.
OF COURSE a financier is going to look at the absolute illiterate, uneducated, bullshit being spouted here. You really have no idea. And YOU call ME a dimwit?!!?
Bobs gone into hiding, or underground
I’m sure the contents of BFP will be discussed at Grand Lodge in the UK
and also.
http://grandlodgescotland.com/index.php/grand-lodge-171/structure/district-grand-lodges/141-district-grand-lodge-of-barbados
I actually like the name, why is it revolting? is it a Masonic term?
Barbados and the Eastern Caribbean, District GL of 18 Lodges – 1 in St.Vincent.
This lodge has been funded by Harlequin DA is the Past Master 2012 Year Book, 2013 Dr. Ralph has taken the Master role.
Dave Ames has moved to a more senior Provincial position.
BFP even comment
https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/tag/barbados-freemasonry/
The name is a demonstration to potential financiers (there are none) of the mindset and professionalism of Harlequin and its supporters.
It is quite incredible that such a shoddy cowboy outfit got this far, but that is wholly down to unregulated SIPP investments – and the UK authorities have an enormous responsibility for making this scam so easy. I hold them as culpable as Ames, Terry and Wooller.
What protection did any of those people who’d worked so hard for years to generate some sort of security in retirement have from the government? NONE.
The only hope they have is from RL and this “trust” (whatever that’s worth).
You can keep spouting your mindless prattle about Free Masons. This has f*ck all to do with free masons, but everything to do with scams, greed, unregulated investments and SIPP vultures.
Something does not sit right
http://www.caribbean360.com/index.php/news/barbados_news/590787.html#axzz2mGVYa8bd
You know what? I AM being a dick here, as I was allowing myself to be convinced that you (in your many guises) are pro Harlequin.
You clearly are not though as you are doing an outstanding job of trashing the shitty name Harlequin had managed to generate for itself even further into the ground.
I’ll just leave you to it.
I’ve just read the RL site. People ARE losing their homes.
And before people start discussing how the greedy UK investors in all their wealth deserve what’s coming to them and how it’s much worse for the SVG residents and employees – STOP THAT. Losing everything is bad no matter where you live. In fact, in my ignorance, I’d rather lose everything in a beautiful, warm country than a grey, rain soaked, freezing country where it’s too expensive for people to rent somewhere to live, let alone own somewhere, and where 35,000 people died from the cold last year (unable to pay their heating bills).
This is bad for investors who were totally and utterly duped. Trust or no trust, they will not get their money back as the business does not work. Well, not for anyone except sales agents, Ames, Wooller and Terry. One by one, they will either have to write off their loss due to Harlequin, or be broken by it.
SICKENING.
Anon RU, agree with all your posts. The investors bizarrely letting Ames off the hook will not stop UK authorities from following up on him, Terry etc, if they ever get around to it. The fact is as you say that investor money has gone and will just not be worth more than if everything was liquidated now, and more likely less as the longer BB and Blu remain open, the more losses that will be incurred.
There is simply no chance whatsoever that anyone will finance Harlequin. Not in a million years. There are no accounts for the two hotels, and certainly not auditted and from what I understand they will always be qualified anyway if they are ever auditted. They lose money. There are no end mortgages for the investors, and never will be. Caribbean banks don’t lend until a unit has block and parcel, and is complete. No other bank will lend either until unit is complete. 30% of purchase price already gone, so only 70% maximum left to come in anyway, and this will not be forthcoming from the majority. The locations for the resorts are either terrible or very very challenging to sell against the competition, and at the size they are will never work, not for 100 years. The sales price is often no more than the cost to build when you consider the amenities and infrastructure that has been promised so there is no profit anyway, just massive losses on developing the resorts. So you have a situation where investors do not have the means to complete, no new buyer is going to buy with the information now readily available on these developments, no accounts to show, loss making resorts, potentially massive loss making construction of the resorts, $600m already gone with only 3% of what is sold completed, land title issues on a few of the sites, and on top of it all you have people being investigated by the police and SFO. You also have nowhere near enough security to be able to borrow much anyway even without all the above issues. If any investor is relying on external financing, then do not get hopes up. It is just not going to happen.
Wow such an impressive post, that’s all really new informative information, do you think I should not invest then 🙂
This is the first time I knew Harlequin had a problem.
Looks like the Mason’s will have to sort out the right mess Pervy Bob and Daft Dave have made with the pink slips.
Quarterly Communication on the second Wednesday of December 2013 Project OrangeV2
Make a joke of it, but without external finance, what hope is there? Perhaps one of the many pro Harlequin people can advise us all how this can still work? Such a strong risk free business model, the successful visionary with 30 years experience in business must have back up plans.
Finance is agreed, as is the structure & the Trust.
It’s happening, despite the silly little IFA’s and their dreams of derailment..
Bob and his new mates will find out very soon how foolish they have been.
I have made some enquiries about Bob, he was ‘Blackballed’ at a Lodge meeting, so he was unwanted there too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackballing
Which masons will be on the trustee board? What’s the betting?
Anonymous i would love to pick your brain you are right in so many ways.I GAVE up a while ago trying to contact MR Aims about a group maybe lookjing to fund this project we could not evenget to the starting gate with all the lies.I SEE no way that this project will be funded by anyone if things stay the way they are please email when you can mraudelhierro@yahoo.es
Mason Talk, Irish Builder…etc all a smokescreen for what is , or is not going on with the rescue plan of Harlequin.
How can anyone in his right mind think that Harlequin will build anything more?
Even at BB, where things have come to a standstill, they have sold off tiles and other building supplies and equipment that were supposed to be used to finish the project. Merricks, the same, everything at the site gone…disappeared! Two “show” villas not even completed.Wild grass growing everywhere.
At Marquis StLucia and the two Projects in Dominican Republic…no construction even started.
When were they supposed to be finished? A few years back?Have contracts not been breached by the developer?
It boggles the mind that anyone who put (I refuse to use the word invested) their money into any of these projects thinks that they will ever see them finished, let alone get legal title to anything.
The tiles were sold off because they were not the correct colour, all
cabana / Lodges now must have BLACK AND WHITE TILES.to conform with UGLE rules.
Erica cooks paddys sock.
The most important ones, the Triple AAA’s who will Sweary on a volume of the Sacred law.
One of them will have to pass off a a women to keep the lefties happy.
So mote it be 😉
You will need a pasty basher, to keep them happy
Who are the AAA’s?
Look at the masonic tie ! The trust proceeds. That’s enough to bring on a potato famine…..
Harlequin Update 2nd December 2013 from Regulatory Legal Solicitors on Vimeo.
Mason Talk, Irish Builder…etc all a smokescreen for what is , or is not going on with the rescue plan of Harlequin.
How can anyone in his right mind think that Harlequin will build anything more?
Anyone interested in making money with a cast-iron guaranteed investment:
http://www.vebra.com/vebra/property/14510196
Completion expected 2011, apparently.
Only a fool would miss an opportunity like that; people are lining up to snap the seller’s hand off. MUST HURRY though as the prices increase on 1st January 2014. The capital growth in this investment is incredible.
Guaranteed mortgages for completion too. On my life. Gospel.
The RL update makes for good reading. Seems they’re not just dealing with the “Trust”. I look forward to seeing them kick some well deserving, sore, sorry, SIPP arses.
That leaves the SFO to ruin those lying, scumbag fraudsters Ames, Terry and Wooller.
I thought it would all happen this year. Looks like next year will bring retribution.
Of course, we do have little Matt’s trial in the Old Bailey in January to look forward to. Interesting little side show.
Bizarre that RL mention they are using Harlequin’s legal team as if that is positive. HP lawyers spent years with the sole focus of removing any negative discussion about HP from the internet, as well as years ignoring the requests for refunds, and sent threatening letters to unhappy investors. Something just is not right about how HP are being used as part of solution and the law firm of the investors is encouraging investors to essentially lay off the very people who set this scheme, or alleged scam, up. Hopefully it will work, just smells a little to an observer.
More Masonic Codes; If you know any Masonic families, the whole family will have an “A” in their christian names. The only exception if they already have an “A” in their surname. The A represents the “All Seeing Eye”
The Masonic Team.
Richard Ingham AAA
Gareth Ward Fatchett AAA
Paul Anthony Walton AAA
Triple A’s
Triple the code of A = 1 triple it
3 of them, 33 degree highest Masonic degree
333 +333 = 666 Mark of the Devil
3 x 333 = 999 Emergency services = Help
Invert 999 = 666
3 of them 3rd Degree
333 / 3 = 111 add 1+1+1 = 3 3rd degree
All hidden in plain sight.
RL want to be inclusive. The Trust will not happen if either Harlequin / RL are not on board.
Eleven Capital, it’s a clue in the name 3 x11 = 33.
(3 for 3rd degree)
The 33 Degree
Eleven Capital will be funding this, this is how Masons communicate in seemingly normal everyday talk.
Did you see Gareths Fatchets tie, in the latest update? It’s a Masonic one – brazen beyond belief.
Look at the date set by Fatchett 02.12.2013 – seems random- its not.
0+ 2+1+2 +2+0+13 = 20 / 3 = 666
They Worship Satan in – correct the 33 degree.
E,JY
What fine observation. Hidden in Plain Sight.
Some on here are on Magic Flute overload and have forgotten which magician made the cash disappear .or are thinking all the smoke and mirrors will fool the rest including police SFO FCA HMRC not forgetting the jolly old investors and fellow posters
One of my contacts who is also an investor called Harlequin on my request, acting a bit thick about the Trust, is it free? To pay Reg Legal or not?
The results were shocking.
It could be that Sonia Stenning, who worked in credit control; your typical rottweiler type maybe should not have picked up the phone, who knows.
Her two son’s Vinny and Sonnie work for Harlequin and have done so for Many years, their level of involvement in selling ‘investments’ is another story.
The summary of the call:
Harlequin doesn’t trust Reg Legal, because they attacked them loads ‘loads’ of statutory demands, and the negative publicity has been damaging.
Don’t pay Reg Legal just send in the pink form no cheque, not the blue form.
Reg Legal only wants to sue everyone, that’s what they do.
Harlequin is trying to set a Trust up and you won’t have to pay for it, this will upset the people who have already paid Reg Legal
I would urge all investors to call Harlequin immediately on 0855 888 4422 and see if this is a ‘one off’ from some embittered employee that has not managed to move on.
Sonia obviously does not fully understand what hard work it’s taken to get HP & RL working towards one aim to save Harlequin from Liquidation.
Maybe, Sonia, who knows may even save YOUR JOB and Vinny & Sonnie?
I think RL, should just pull the plug & F**K them all, They will get the money out of suing the IFA’s and SIPP companies.
Well done RL for taking down this ridiculous and very unhelpful post. Its a pity that it cannot be deleted from BFP also. “acting a bit thick” does not even begin to cover this stupid telephone call. Why anyone should think that someone who works in credit control would know about company policy is a bit thick in itself. Shame on you JS.
Looks like RL have put it back up! Well well. Lets all call the HP cleaning woman for a comment shall we?
The post is there you dickwadd.
The silly slag slag should not answer the phone, if she is so thick!
Well done JS 🙂
I think the post embarrassed Ames and ‘Sonia the shag’ as Ames likes to call her.
Ever wondered why he is soooooo close to the boys?
What a very inteligent move indeed.
PLEASE TAKE ACTION – YOU CAN FIND THE UPDATES ON THE FCA / MP CAMPAIGN ON THE WEBSITE
We are keen to ensure that we have the regulatory support to bring about the Harlequin Investor Trust. We want all investors to write to :-
(a) the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA)
(b) your MP
(c) your SIPP provider if you have invested via a SIPP
We know from our past endeavours that it is very important to have the regulatory authorities onside. The January & June 2013 updates from the FCA set out their regulatory concerns. We have liased with the FCA and have explained to them the basic structure of the Investor Trust. We now need to move matters on post our decision to proceed with the Investor Trust. These letters are designed to do just that. We have experience of utilising this approach in other projects we have been involved in. We need the FCA / MP’s onside.
Instructions
1. Download the documents relevant to you. If you are a DIRECT INVESTOR download the files below.
FCA letter for DIRECT INVESTOR
MP letter for DIRECT INVESTORS
2. If you are a SIPP INVESTOR download the files below.
FCA letter for SIPP INVESTORS
MP letter for SIPP INVESTORS
SIPP provider letter for SIPP INVESTORS
3. Obtain your MP’s name using :-
http://www.theyworkforyou.com
4. Ensure you complete your name, your address, the date, the amount you invested and where you have a SIPP, the provider name. DO NOT FORGET TO PERSONALISE THE RED WORDS TO YOURSELF!
Why would you do this ?
1. We need the regulatory authorities “onside” with the Harlequin Investor Trust.
2. There is a significant public interest in Harlequin Property. Therefore, the matter is already engaged at a “public interest” level.
3. MP’s can be very helpful in lobbying HM Treasury, the FCA and any other interested parties.
4. Both investors and Harlequin itself will benefit from the interested regulatory authorities being proactive. This will only happen if investors engage to ask for their help.
5. This type of campaign has been utilised before ? Yes
(CF Arch Cru funds / Norwich & Peterborough Building Society – sale of Keydata investments / Alpha Bank – Cypriot property sales / Arck LLP – Cape Verde investments).
6. Is the effort worth it ? Yes.
CF Arch Cru funds – £54m Capita Payment Scheme established to benefit investors.
Norwich & Peterborough Building Society – £53m payment scheme for Keydata investors
Alpha Bank – establishment of All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG).
Arck LLP – MP’s raised matters in Parliament in relation to Yorkshire Bank’s handling of the matter. Two scheme promoters have been charged by SFO. See link – SFO – Arck LLP Press Release
In conclusion, the effort is certainly worth it.
Please take 10 minutes to help yourself and your fellow investors.
We would be very grateful if you could email harlequin@regulatorylegal.co.uk to confirm you have sent your letters.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
I like the idea of investors writing to MP’s, SIPP companies and FCA.
Another good move RL
If you are an investor do two things:
1. Call Harlequin and ask about the Trust, Sonia the sh1t stirrer
2. Write to your MP’s SIPP companies and FCA
3. Shipleys – ask them what’s going on
Harlequin are not playing fair.
Bob Ladell the snake is behind this.
@Lord Haw-Haw – I think that you should double-check who you are
posting as. Seems you are rah rah’ing for yourself.
Erica Broughton’s attacks on our leader, have prompted a distress call to all Fellow Mason’s in the surrounding area to desist in using her ironing services.
So mote it be.
PTDC.
A slight correction. There has been a instruction to report back via the know channels the activities of this family.
@I must level with you
I have a report:for the good of Freemasonary.
I deliver each day:To the Broughton’s hovel.
66 cream cakes
178 pies
122 Cornish pasties
66 chocolate eclairs
234 Meat & Potato pies
No Law UGLE ( United Grand Lodge Of England)
It’s in the names – hidden in plain sight, again.
Walton – No Law
Paul – UL
Gareth – GE
You may think I’m mad, but I’ve been putting all this together, I will expose them all.
Mr Broughton being made redundant. Coincidence ?
No, his employer is Provincial Rank.
One for all and all for one.
I totally get this now.
Fact; Masons are possessed, period. Next time you talk to a suspected Mason, just ask “Are you possessed by the Masons?”, they do not like this, watch their body language. Here’s another important fact about Mason’s human rights. The Masons want to use the human rights laws to protect them from giving us a public register of Masons ? ARE THEY SERIOUS ?, what about the extensive damage they are doing 24/7/365 Do you seriously think this evil cares about human rights? Fact; Freemasonry infects everything it comes into contact with. Checkout http://www.freemasonrywatch.org for lots more expose on this criminal network. EB
I know it’s not the ‘done thing’ but what is that Apron James Shaw uses on the RL Blog?
Mine is just a light blue color (I’m just recently become a MM)
I don’t believe all this rubbish on here.
@Erica cooks Paddys socks.
Firstly you are obviously naive enough to think that every post attributed to me is from me. How silly. Any foul language was from Imposters. No one has told me not to post on here. Your post is not only discussing it is so wide of the mark. You know absolutely nothing. However I post under my true ID unlike a keyboard warrior like you. Give me a call if you can crawl from under your stone. You are a disgusting excuses for a human being.
@A New MM
It’s the apron for a PAGDC. You’ll find the detail in the BoC.
Das Vergissmeinnicht
Past Assistant Grand Director Of Ceremonies – that’s Grand lodge of England – that’s like the boss of all Lodges in England – the one where the Duke Of Kent goes? The Royal Family?
Is that correct?
Correct; except, as you should know if you really are an MM, it’s UGLE, not Grand lodge of England (good to see the lessons of the Second Degree have been well learned). And UGLE doesn’t just cover England.
In most cases, it is simply bestowed as a past rank rather than active – recognition of a lot of hard work in the Bro’s Province.
It’s been a very grey day today.
I have been digging up trees and smearing honey over myself, whilst planting my root firmly in Sonia’s unruly sod.
Is Bob the knicker sniffer a mason?
Das Vergissmeinnicht
Sorry about that, but it’s a very important position, it covers the World OMG!
Yes I am real, but very green behind the ears, no offence intended to any of any lodge anywhere.
@ A New MM. If it were an active rank, I’d agree that it’s important. As a past rank, and not one that has ever been held by the Bro as active, it is not, IMHO, “an important position”. It is an honorific, no more.
Bob and Bob fighting over Sonia’s rancid fish pastie!
Might be the free dinner Bob was so upset he never got!
It is now obvious I am an obsessive stalker and need help. Can the Masons help me?
Bob is it acceptable to lick your 90 year old mother in laws Velcro pussy or is it a bit of a grey area?
Who stole Bob’s subscriptions ?
Bob, when asked at the London meeting regarding subscriptions said he wanted a vey nominal £5-£10 per month, hang on I said that’s £11-22,000 per month…… for what a sycophantic blog ran from the offices of Harlequins solicitors.
Not on your Nelly I said:)
The other Bob (Storey) seems to have made himself as despised
on the RL site as he has here. Good going there Roberto!
That makes two Bob the Knobs
Will Ebenezer Ames send Mrs Broughton a turkey for Christmas? With there being no bread winner, due to Masonic interference.
Or maybe some Legal documents?
Ebenezer
Wait until the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come visits…
Did masons invest? if not was it possible they were told what was likely to happen? If they did invest how happy are they now? And if masons were employed how do they feel now investigations into there actions are ongoing? If this is a grand masonic plot please tell me how this all works out as I dont get it ,mind you I never did understand how it was going to work as a business
very good point @ Cold light of day
The Masons are investing so they have a place to send poorly Military Masons.
And to protect Bro. WM Ames.
All,
Tailormade FSCS Applications
If you are have received advice from Tailormade Independent Limited “TM” then we would like to hear from you. We have received confirmation from the FSCS that we can start to process the application.
You will be aware that some of the products involved are unregulated (Harlequin / Green Oil etc). Therefore, care needs to be taken with these applications.
We have significant experience with FSCS matters. What we want to do as an initial stage is order the relevant FSCS forms and assess the evidence. There is little point waiting for the Investor Trust to be dealt with when this option is now open to investors. We understand that up to 1500 may be eligible in this matter.
We are going to run this process in tandem with the Pink Forms. If you are a Tailormade client, please email Jess Barnett on jess.barnett@regulatorylegal.co.uk with your name and address details. We can then commence as part of our Blue Form process.
Banking
We are now banking cheques following our announcement on the 2nd December 2013.
Advice Line
Our advice line is now closed following our marathon session in November 2013.
Harlequin Pink Forms
We discount the PHIG forms as the vast majority of pink forms we do not hold are with Harlequin. In simple terms, the pink forms collectively gives us the mandate to proceed. What they do not do is pay for the due diligence exercise. Therefore, there will need to be some resolution of this issue before the due diligence exercise starts in January 2014.
The suggestions are we appoint another law firm alongside RL. However, then we get to the issue of who will take responsibility for the advice. Most of the law firms we know who are independent, experience and technically able to deal with the issues surrounding the Harlequin Investor Trust would want RL to lead this. After all, this matter is very high profile and coming to it cold would involve a very large catching up process.
Harlequin are not going to be able to provide independent advice. To be fair, they have never said they would be providing such advice. PHIG are very clear that they will not be providing any advice. PHIG lawyers ELS act for Harlequin. Therefore, neither of these parties are best placed to give the independent advice needed.
When people vary their contract, they will be giving up rights. The offer from Harlequin will involve the granting of security. It cannot be a sensible proposal to allow investor to sign up without knowing why they are doing it. Indeed, the FCA update of June 2013 is very clear on the need for independent advice.
We are going to work toward a sensible solution to this problem with Harlequin. At the moment, the Harlequin pink forms are “parked”. RL receives a spreadsheet of names from Harlequin. All very well, but they are no use to us in that format. Names are not going to fund the valuations and 3rd party advice we need to implement the security arrangement.
When we send out the Deed of Waiver and the advice pack, we will not be sending to non-payers. This will leave a situation where the Harlequin Pink Forms are unable to access the trust. The Deed of Waiver would then need to be issued by another party. That other party (if they are a solicitors practice) will want to be able to provide the advice so an informed choice can be made. This will not be for free. Therefore, it is going to make sense to resolve this situation to avoid their being problems as the documents are produced for investors.
For now, we are hoping that the “free” Pink Forms realise the situation and drop into the advice process set out in our letter of the 28th October 2013. We continue to receive large volume of calls and late joiners. It seems to us that when people ring us we tell them about the fee, Harlequin appear to make the matter sound “free”. Given that choice, it is no wonder some investors are opting for this option. For the reasons set out above, the free option is not really the whole story. However, if people want to sign their rights away without advice and produce their own document to do so, then so be it.
We want to keep everything on track. However, this problem needs to be solved sooner rather than later. We will seek to work with Harlequin in the same level headed was as we have done before. Hopefully, a pragmatic solution will be found.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
I did read a post a few days back that said that TM were going to be in trouble, looks like it was true, more will follow.
Why only TM being highlighted. They were a main player but there were loads of other main players that were regulated and to date have not been named. Why not??? Perhaps RL could do a template for data subject access request that ALL harlequin investors whether SIPP/ Cash/ mortgage can fill in and send to their advisor/ IFA /fs company who recommended/advised on this and also the SIPP company . they can then get full documentation factfind/ r4r/ dd/ etc etc relating to their investment and have all the paperwork to give to RL for assessing. just a thought…
The SAR what would that prove? If they are appointed to act for you they will kick their arse anyway.
Sonia Stennings, Bob Ladell – what do they have in common?
They both attempted to derail the Trust and failed.
Plus Ames shafted them both 🙂
Does anyone know if there has been any movement on the
court cases in the islands. Those to me have the ability to put
the kabash on any “rescue plan” with or without a trust. Only
time will tell.
The court cases in the island are stuck in the system – even to a blind person it’s easy to see that something is influencing the process that prevents the cases from being addressed
Interesting that a PM who fumes and rants about slavery in the past
appears to be protecting the worst form of neocolonialism. Money talks.
an observation.You can have the most legally binding agreement but unless you trust the people you have that agreement with it will never work.Some of the best arrangements I have made were on a handshake.And I am not talking masonic handshakes here,and by the way the power they hold is a lot less than some may think .most no longer feel threatened by these wizards ,the world has moved on.I ask ,how can you deal with these people ,they abuse investors allegedly via third parties as they deal with these same investors legal reps.I think its time to face the truth ,its over
Will the fat lady ever sing…..it ain’t over until entities like RL can
pick the bones clean from naive investors. Then its over.
They are nasty
http://www.rense.com/general77/freem.
All lies?
http://lawfulrebellionstalbans.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/ruined-by-corrupt-freemasonry-police.html
And more lies?
http://www.mega.nu/ampp/www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm
All the above is just some crazy types, like a certain Woman who runs a ironing service from home (badly) In the North West of England.
That ain’t the fat lady I was referring to.
I firmly believe that TailorMade have been targeted by Masons, Walton & Fatchett are Masons.
Don’t take a genius, few words in the right ear, TM are History.
WHO IS NEXT?
All,
In the week ahead the following is going to happen :-
1. The trust drafting meeting will take place. Harlequin want the trust set up prior to Christmas. We will work toward this with them.
2. A standard letter for SIPPs is going to be produced so you can formally ask them to pay the Harlequin Investor Trust fee.
3. We are going to seek a resolution of the Harlequin Pink Forms issue which has caused heat on the forum in the last few days. We will struggle to make the trust work if we cannot bring all investors into the trust on an equal footing. We have closed the thread on this as some of the comments were becoming too personal. We do not want a forum like BFP.
4. We will continue our lobbying to help bring both political and regulatory pressure to bear where needed. We need all the help we can get to pull this off. If you have not sent your letter, please do so as soon as possible. The “MP/FCA campaign” tab has all the model letters. Feel free to personalise them. Key thing is that they get sent.
Other Options
Over 2 weeks have elapsed since the meeting of the 20th November 2013. At that meeting the fabled “other options” were suggested. Since that date nothing has been published or proposed. Therefore, as we move forward one further “objection” standing in the way, has seemingly removed itself.
The “do nothing” recommendation certainly slowed the Pink Form process. However, as this approach now equates to “get nothing” then it has no real relevance on going.
Conclusion
The missing pink forms are the greatest current threat to the Investor Trust. We need a sensible workable resolution to this. We will keep our powder dry as we seek the path of sensible diplomacy toward a resolution.
Well as they say it’s not what you know 😉
I emailed my MP last night, he replied today, extract below.
I now intend to write to the Treasury Minister and to the Financial Services Authority.
Then we will meet up – can’t get better than that!!!
I bet he was one of them Free loading Freemasons??
Tell the truth…… come on ….
James my MP appears to be more updated then yours. My MP is going to contact the FCA.
Not sure how you can contact the FSA.
@Masonic intervention – no matter what I say, you and the rest of the
anti-Masonic brigade will believe what you want anyway 🙂
Anonymous
December 6, 2013 at 4:26 pm
If he was a Mason he could 😉
I totally bet it was one of these lot, tried hiding away from me tick, tick I am gathering data and will expose the freemason behind Harlequin scam.
I KNOW Simon Terry and Ames are masons, look at this the link and be disgusted.
No wonder that Fatchett want people to contact them – all of them are totally in on the whole thing, they made my husband loose his job and i have lots of proof of all of the wrong doing. I cant get but i will a solicitor to take my case on because it a fact to become a solicitor you must be a mason, even have women masons – ha, you did not know that well i do.
look at this all the proof you need,this just gets Ames off
http://fallingmasonry.info/masonic-mps.html
Whoever started all the Masonic crap somehow managed to give it
legs. However it doesn’t change the fact that Ames is a latter day snake
oil salesman in the best tradition. Now that the RL acolytes have started
(AT LAST) to contact their MPs maybe, and this is iffy, there may be some
sort of rational untangling of the whole sordid affair. Absolutely no one
is going to win.
The masons are all over this.
The mad woman is cracking. We intend to use our influence to keep pushing.
All,
MP Letters
Thank you for your commitment in this matter. Hundreds of people have made the effort to send their letters to the Financial Conduct Authority / MP’s / SIPPs. If you have not done so, please take the time this weekend.
The initial responses suggest that MP’s will involve HM Treasury. HM Treasury will be mindful of the tax loss which would be created by the loss of investment returns / pension pots. After all, the bottom line effect of a collapse would be people suffering less income, which would then be helped to an extent via the taxation system. This cost would be significant over the lifetime of the investor population.
The other key issue is to ensure that the Investor Trust process is not interfered with or damaged by those with agendas. There is always a need for reflection, analysis and contemplation. However, not at the expense of doing nothing and taking no action. The regulatory authorities are clearly watching this matter closely. We spoke to the Financial Conduct Authority to urge them to speak to the various SIPP providers and to ensure that investor interests were paramount in their mind. Parties connected to Harlequin or to their prior distribution are not independent. This is a concern of the regulator as can be seen from their June 2013 Update.
SIPP
To date many of the SIPP’s (subject to some paperwork) will agree to pay for the trust fees. Those that have sought to be clever by asking RL to act for them (Guardian / Curtis Banks) are simply delaying the inevitable. RL acts for investors, it is not going to fall into the trap of acting for the SIPPs and then being unable to seek redress for investors. We do not need the £240 from SIPP’s that desperately that we then lose the investor right to seek redress through us. Also, without stating the obvious, we cannot do this as we have already intimated claims to SIPPs. We cannot and will not do an about turn on our clients.
Narrowing
The “other options” and “let’s form a committee” camps seem to have melted away. This is helpful as it allows investors and ourselves to focus on the main event. We have been watching the corporate status (using live tracking) of those seeking to propose alternatives. Most investors are already aware that one of these businesses is in liquidation, the other is seeking to dissolve itself at Companies House. In simple terms, these businesses are ridding themselves of their investors and their responsibilities to them. That has not stopped them from using their database of investor contacts and providing updates and information. Being able to create confusion without responsibility is neither in the interest of investors, nor is it morally right.
Pink Forms
The Pink Form wrinkle will hopefully be resolved prior to Christmas. We have a split between RL / Harlequin of about 50/50 in terms of Pink Forms. The good thing is that we have between us the mandate we need to proceed. The bad news is that 50% of this mandate has no contributed to the due diligence exercise etc. We are told that this has occurred because many investors did not want RL. In part, this is correct. However, the feedback we have on our website and our investor clients is that the overriding decision factor is the “free” nature of the Harlequin Pink Forms. The irony being that the Pink Forms are actually the RL Pink Forms which relate to our letter of the 28th October 2013. There has been some investor unhappiness about the message being given by Harlequin staff. We have raised this with Harlequin. If (as is being suggested) a very negative anti RL script is being used, then there is little wonder we have a division in the investor ranks. Why such an approach is being used is beyond us. We thought we were working toward a solution, not creating further division.
Those we have responded to us are entirely clear on costs. Those who feel they are getting as “free” entry are going to need to be educated that this is simply not the case. This inequity between investors needs to be solved. It cannot be left to fester.
Some of the comments on our website have been personal and we have moved to close down those threads. We have raised matters with Harlequin and have been assured more than once that no “swerves” are being planned.
To be really clear, if anything resembling a “swerve” happens, many of our clients will simply turn their back on this “rescue” process. The proverbial last straw etc. As the “redress” option for many will give them a quicker solution than backing Harlequin over a 3-5 year, many will simply turn to the line of least resistance.
Our hope is that this last (but very fundamental wrinkle) can be ironed out. David Ames is away until late next week. In reality, this means the regular communication between Gareth Fatchett and David Ames will not happen again until late next week. Until that time, we counsel calm. Let’s see whether we can achieve a workable solution which deals with all serious points of view.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
What an extremely clever move.
1. Government involvement, all will feel the pressure
2. No credibility to other options
3. The pink form issue needs sorting.
Very very interesting tactics – RL in a position of almost total control.
The irony is that the Sales Team at Harlequin are part of the masonic plan.
History shows us that by using divide and rule tactics objectives can be achieved.
W Bro Ames & Bro Fatchett (or the IPM / Junior Warden) have created this division to focus minds on the Pink Forms and the money.
The non masons then look for the compromise and seek the light. The light will come pre-Christmas when the Investor Trust will be created.
The non payers (the scroungers) will not want to pay £240. This will make the trust fail. RL will refuse to act. All other law firms will shun the project after we alert them.
Therefore, the reason Harlequin will fail is because investors are too mean to fund their own rescue.
W Bro Ames cannot be blamed for this. The Redress forms will then flow to RL.
Hidden in Plain SIght
Important Alert – The masonic P45 has been issued to JB.
The black ball has been applied.
You total B*****ds I will expose all you Masons, we have been studying it all AND I TOTALLY KNOW what you have been doing. I will expose my husband’s boss for what he is tick tock… coming for you and you will be totally exposed.
I have been rejected by some law firms because they are all masons even the women- I have proof and I will prove it what they all been up to.
I have written to the Pope because ALL masons are Cof E and worship goats the mark of the devil, yes its true – THEY ARE DEVIL WORSHIPERS
All I ever wanted to do is save investors and my husband’s pension, all those poor people at BB who will lose their jobs and after Ames has been secretly pumping sewerage into the bay at night killing off all the wind life for 100s of years disgusting.
I will prove with evidence that the masons have been involved with Ames from the very start have no doubt about that
Tick tock coming after you – dangerous woman yes – that me and you will know.
Erica, you crazy old coot – shut up.
Erica is not relevant now. Paddy knows this and is frantically trying to access the masonic web.
As a catholic he has no chance.
Paddy – W Bro Ames has powerful backup.
Paddy is not relevant now. Erica knows this and is frantically trying to access the masonic power base.
Many have tried all have failed.
As a Fatty, a Common Northerner she has no chance.
Erica – W Bro Ames has powerful backup, its Worldwide, not just Wigan.
Truly scary………….. why is this never been expose to the authorities?
has anyone on here ever been involved with DD? one of the lines of which is ,Do you know of any likely litigation or legal action against the company or yourself if you intend to remain a director. Bit tricky ,even for a mason .but I forgot every ones a masons .bit like the army that promoted everyone to corporal to prevent a rebellion ,
And just as futile
Prediction –
1 – Ames has taken off for parts unknown
(Heavy odds that its “festung-buccament”)
2 – A slew of MP’s have been contacted – presumably all three parties
3 – It is now political folks and there will be tripartite jockeying to obtain
maximum gain – which means the investors actually don’t count
that much anymore. It’ll be which political party can milk it the most.
4 – When elections are due next year in SVG the current government is
going to have to do some fast talking.
5 – SVG is about the dumbest place Ames could seek refuge in.
Ames is in Buccament Bay, attempting to negotiate extended credit terms for water and electricity services.
Fatchett continues to push the trust although to what purpose no one really knows. Was it all a ruse to get his hands on those coveted Blue Redress forms? It appears so.
And to date Fatchett cannot state with absolute conviction what assets will be held by the trust. He cannot or more importantly he is unwilling to state at this stage that the assets being proposed for the trust are those parts of Buccament Bay with the least value.
Many of Fatchett’s pink slips are from clients who’s pensions are held in trust by Guardian and others. Therefore those pink slips are all but useless for the purposes of the trust.
It also appears that Mr. Fatchett may very well be conflicted. Not only representing SIPP clients who’s very funds are held by those he is now choosing to seek legal redress from.
But Fatchett also represents 7 Capital. A firm who have expressed an interest in acquiring some of the assets from Harlequin.
Is this why Fatchett has encouraged purchasers to engage with their local MP’s. Surely Fatchett fully understands that MP’s are precluded from intervening in a criminal investigation. And Harlequin and the Ames family are being investigated for matters which are criminal in nature.
Fatchett is encouraging purchasers to engage with the FCA, the same FCA which is also looking into the activities of Harlequin and the Ames family.
And Fatchett tells purchasers to lobby their MP’s in the hope that HM Treasury will intervene. Intervene on the basis of the loss of tax revenue which Fatchett is falsely alluding to. If purchasers choose to pay taxes where their investments are located then there will be little or nothing accruing to HMRC.
However Fatchett has also stated that the properties were mis-sold through the SIPP process, and as a result HM Treasury through HMRC could benefit to the tune of in excess of £100 million if indeed Fatchett’s claims of mis-selling with respect to SIPP’s is upheld.
In this economic climate it is hard not to see why HMRC will not pursue purchasers with SIPP contracts for the heavy penalties due in respect of this mis-selling. HMRC are not known for their leniency in pursuing individuals for monies owing.
Fatchett alluded to the fact that he did not think HMRC would pursue purchasers, however he never produced any evidence from HMRC to back up his allusion. He could have asked HMRC to undertake not to pursue purchasers, but even Fatchett knew this would have been an act of folly on his part.
Fatchett has encouraged purchasers to shine a huge spotlight on Harlequin and the Ames family. But to what end? Such actions will do nothing to assist the many 1000’s of purchasers seeking a solution.
Instead Fatchett’s encouragement of the masses to rise up and highlight the many issues pertaining to Harlequin may very well be the catalyst that speeds up the inevitable demise of Harlequin.
This would suit Fatchett’s agenda and indeed extract him from the very big hole he currently finds himself in with respect to Harlequin and their apparent ability at being the proverbial tale wagging this dog.
How will Fatchett deal with the due diligence ?it must have been blatantly obvious to him that this hurdle was one that could never be surmounted.
Fatchett recently stated that the trust was to proceed. What did he mean by this. Proceed? Or proceed to the due diligence stage?
He stated he banked all the cheques / funds. Stated he had a mandate if you include all the Harlequin held pink slips, which to date he has not seen nor has he been paid for. And how many of the RL or Harlequin pink slips are from SIPP purchasers. Fatchett does not say.
Fatchett does understand that without the support of the SIPP trustees that many of his pink slips are not worth the paper they are written on.
Fatchett is conflicted with respect to the trust, SIPP’s and the redress options. He knows he can only have one slice of this particular cake. The most obvious slice being the redress option. Indeed that is what RL are geared up to do.
So what does the future hold.
Lets us not kid ourselves. Fatchett is no saint, nor a candidate for a knighthood as some on the RL forum would like us to believe. £200 per contract to establish a trust is mere peanuts. Fatchett is after the redress claims. The trust was just a tool used by Fatchett to get access to the purchaser data base. Fatchett has no long term interest in the trust. But he has a massive interest in the Blue Forms. Fatchett will make millions from the redress claims.
Ames believes the trust is his get out of jail card. As a businessman Ames is finished. But he will attempt to use the trust as his quasi fan club, demonstrating to the authorities that he has the support of all his purchasers and thus pleading that as a result of their support no crime was committed.
SIPP purchasers will obtain redress, but much of the recouped funding will end up in the coffers of RL and more importantly in the coffers of HMRC, as a result of the fines they will most certainly impose on purchasers as a result of investing in a non compliant investment.
Mortgage Purchasers, Trust or no trust have lost everything. If the trust succeeded and Harlequin were to complete the construction of all properties, as a result of the contract waivers, Harlequin would once units are completed demand the 70% completion money from purchasers. If the purchasers were not in a position to complete at this stage using their own funds Harlequin would fore close on the contracts and purchasers would loose their deposits.
Mortgage payments for purchasers will never recommence.
And as a result of the five year waiver purchasers would be time barred under UK law from taking any action for breach of contract against Harlequin. Why else are Harlequin seeking a 5 year waiver.
Cash buyers would be in the same position if they were unable to provide the 70% completion monies.
Winners; RL, Garreth Fatchet and 7 Capital.
Loosers; Ames, Harlequin and the Purchasers.
It is no wonder Harlequin are nervous about RL and the trust. If a spotlight is shone on Ames by more authorities, what he has done will finally be properly investigated and jail it will be. Some of the things he has done in the Caribbean have not come to light, although someone briefly mentioned someone owning a company into which some assets have been moved for Ames. This has been going on for years and not just by Ames. It would be great to get everything properly investigated and justice carried out. Sorry for the investors, the money was gone many years ago, this is all a waste of time you will find out – once you go through DD stage, trust will stop.
Anon 5:01 – “…someone owning a company into which some assets
have been moved for Ames”
Could that company be Argo design-studio and those assets materials
imported into BGI under the cloak of being for H-Hotel? Who really
knows except the perps. There must be dozens of illegal actions
yet to be discovered.
@Let us with all reverance call on the Great Architect of the …
That plan, albeit cunning and slightly unfair does have certain merits that appeal to me..
@Anonymous
December 8, 2013 at 5:01 am
And what would they be? What have you done about it? You don’t give details why would that be……………. perhaps you have none.
Anonymous
December 8, 2013 at 3:42 am
Was that not always going to be the case
Winners; RL, Garreth Fatchet, SIPP investors and Masons
Loosers; Ames, Harlequin and Cash Purchasers who committed mortgage fraud lets not forget – THE FAT IRISH BUILDER
The Trust will work. Ames needs it too.
This caused problems for the Irish builder.
With the Trust set up Paddy’s claim is difficult because Ames (HP) assets will be in a Trust.
CPC has his personal assets
Nothing left for the pot licker, It must hurt being out witted by Ames.
Mind you what they say about the Irish being stupid……… 🙂
7 Capital are not our clients. They are Brothers.
So mote it be ….
Katherine – you are right.
Ames gets his trust, RL get the redress claims, many investors get money back and / or security.
Irish Builder is bankrupted.
Not quite the scenario hoped for by Paddy and Big E.
All Part of the master plan.
Master Plan = MP’s letters
Freemasons can Assist = FCA
Hidden in plain sight.
Nothing from the Scottish fag & the little baldy one? Yet another silenced by the Fraternal Brotherhood?
Bring it on….
Andy Dunlop has been told. Shut up or your application to dissolve will become messy.
He is stupid, but not that stupid.
Dunlop will have his inner-tube ripped out at the root 🙂
Tailormade ( under Masonic investigation) have been troublesome, they will feel the full force of the Brotherhood.
So mote is be.
There are lot’s of retired Freemasons in Florida. They need a place to relax, and have lodge meetings in the Caribbean – BB is ideal.
Dr.Ralph Gonsalves has just completed his 2nd degree;he is keen to impress Senior Brethren.
Ames proposed him, Fatchett seconded him.
Ever wondered why Ingham ( an architect ) and Ames frequently meet in Miami?
Correct to plan the building of a Masonic Temple, but with American specification – at BB
Fattchett didn’t need to go to Buccement Bay, that was for the initiation ceremony of Ralph Gonsalves.
It all makes perfect sense.
Makes sense to me. The masons are clearly teeing up the assets. Fatchett will make the process happen aided by the CPC lawyer.
Ames does not have this under control with the above brethren.
Chris Corney is a mason, how do i know? well I have seen his ring and its one of those that turn round. Totally got him now, more to follow tick tock
http://masonicgiftware.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=23
If you study the picture of Walton in the paper, it’s all to do with Freemasonary.
1. Blue shirt
2. Gold and Blue watch
3. The Masonic Archway in the background ( coincidence no way) An Arch way in an Office??
4. The sign of a distressed Mason, the way he holds the documents, actually means something more sinister.
5. Royal ARCH MASONS – the 7th degree
6. Seven Capital, Fatchetts clients
7. a forget me not plant in the background? another Masonic sign.
I am totally convinced that this is one huge conspiracy, involving Masons and Ames – I will totaly prove all the links and expose them for what they are pension thieves – all of them, even the Government are into it.
FTGOF – Certain to be one of the more unusual lodges – membership
open to a Roman Catholic avowed socialist who is seeking repatriation
for slavery. (Wasn’t Thomas Jefferson both a Mason and a slave-owner?)
E Rica you are one crazy woman, go take your medication 🙂
If I am so mad why is Cliff Jones former director of Harlequin, showing on linkedin he is a Mason?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cliff-jones-cpo-ppo-cp-team-medic/2a/513/143
All this talk of ‘The Report’ ‘A report’ did we ever see the famous ‘Walton report on Buccament Bay’ No, I will tell you why.
It’s another Masonic term in the initiation ceremonies, so this was all totally made up – there never ever was a report.
Walton went on Masonic business Regulatory illegal needed to get the communication out to other Mason to join up with them – the word Report is a well know Masonic secret word.
Just like cautious, on the level, squared off, see I know lots tick tock mason in the dock!!
I’m will expose you all. Devil Worshiping pension thieves….. you lot have totally had it.
Erica…understand you are upset,but you going about things all wrong girl….masons do look after their brothers…..but they also dont condone and support theft and fraud……it may not look like anything is happening, but it is, it deffo is and all DA is doing is grabbing hold of other people to keep him afloat….when it all sinks there will a lot of people who have backed the wrong horse in the thinkoing of a quick buck
gather your evidence, but dont let it rule your life and crack you…justice will be served rest assured
Do we know who is the most senior mason mixed up in all this? Is it Fatchett, Ames, Walton or Ingham?
Ingham must be most senior as Erica says that Greater Manchester Police would not investigate him because he was a senior mason
Why do you think MP’s are involved? I will tell you why because they are all Masons, like solicitors, all of them – they are all turning against the SIPP companies who are not masons – Guardian is run by a woman, so they totally try to bully us disgusting tick tock watch the clock – you will be named and shamed.
Has everyone gone daft? After all this post-to-post non stop
Masonic B.S I am beginning to wish Bob Storey would come back.
Bob Storey is a totally horrible little man – he too has been bullied by the Masons to keep off this site, nobody else could stop him… could they be honest? See proved it, he is being controled.
Won’t keep me away you all will be exposed.
Harlequin and quite possibly Fatchett are delighted that the BFP site has been hijacked and that the posts are now in the most part comprised off utterly meaningless and unintelligent ramblings on masonic conspiracy theories.
This suits both the agenda of Harlequin and Ames. Anything to stifle debate on the very important events currently unfolding.
Investors should consider the following questions for RL. These questions should now be asked of RL as we fear that investors will be seeking answers from RL in the future when they find themselves in an even bigger pickle then they currently are.
(1). What are the actual assets being offered as security. Fatchett is banking cheques in order to fund the valuation of these assets, so now it is time to state what these assets are.
(2). How does RL propose to accept SIPP purchasers into the trust without the consent of the SIPP Trustees?
(2 A). If the SIPP Trustees do not support the trust, where does that leave SIPP clients?
(2 C). How many of the Harlequin pink slips have been sent in by SIPP Holders.
(3) RL have stated the Trust is to proceed, and are now banking cheques. Are purchasers now to understand that the trust is now going ahead or proceeding as stated by RL despite the Due Diligence process not having been undertaken?
(4) Can RL confirm that now they have commenced banking cheques, that in the event the trust does not proceed that the £200 + VAT will not be refunded.
(5). Given that purchasers are funding the due diligence, will RL tell those purchasers who they propose to use to carry out the valuations.?
(6). In the past RL stated that the trust could only succeed if 25% of purchasers providing pink slips, (some of which are SIPP Purchasers) With a futher possible 13% from Harlequin (unpaid).
(b) 62% of purchasers / investors have not opted to join the trust.
(7). RL in the past stated that they were provided with evidence that 3rd party funding was being made available to Harlequin. Now on the RL site they are stating that third party funding may be forthcoming.
RL state they cannot go into the details of this financing due to a non disclosure agreement. Not withstanding this can RL state that they have seen documentation which guarantee’s 3rd party funding should the trust succeed and do they believe this funding will be sufficient to allow Harlequin complete as per the contractual commitments.
(8). Can RL clarify the position as to the time bar issue on taking action against Harlequin for defaulting on the contracts. Harlequin are looking for waiver of 5 years, will RL confirm what affect this 5 year waiver has on potential future action against Harlequin with respect to contracts now in default.
(9). RL are asking purchasers to waive contractual rights in lieu of a trust. What will happen to Harlequin and the trust if or when Ames gets arrested and possibly charged by the Serious Fraud Office.
These are some basic questions.
We expect the usual attacks in the morning when the Harlequin mob rise. The trust, Ames believes will be his get out of jail free card, literally.
Correction Question 6 should have stated the following; RL previously stated that support for the trust would have to be < 75 % for RL to have a mandate currently only 25% of purchasers have remitted pink slips and a possible further 13% from Harlequin leaving 62% of purchasers who have not opted for the trust. Why then do RL claim they now have a mandate.
Anon
December 9, 2013 at 3:00 am
Should I say Paddy?
I believe you are behind this Masonic conspiracy crap. Let me explain, you don’t want the Trust to go ahead, it will cock up whatever plans you have for suing Ames, mainly because the main assets will be protected .
You need a way of disturbing investors, so using a logical approach of claiming Gareth Fattchett is a Freemason, embroiled in some crazy Masonic conspiracy -This suits your plans. It’s just another way of placing doubt in investors minds
You throw enough mud at the wall some stick? Wrong.
I have proudly been involved in Freemasonry for many years, some would say at a senior rank and I can honestly say we do look after each other, but no more or less than any good friend would. more importantly we do a lot of charity work, that’s why Mr Ames will not be a Mason.
You have unhinged people like Masonic Bullies – It’s terrible the level you will stoop to – but not surprising.
I have been subjected to all sorts, so its not in my head, this is totally proof.
1. my post is being looked at
2 my bins have not been emptied
3. my bank asked me to pay off my overdraft
4. my car is been followed by a blue car
5. the police won’t take me seriously
6. people call my home phone, just checking if im home
7. law firms wont take me seriously
you cant tell me this is not linked and i am not unhinged, you prick, just leave me alone, i will add you to my list masonic devil worshiper.
These questions were posted on BFP. We are aware of the identity of the poster who also contacted us this morning. We answer the questions below. Some we cannot answer as we have not started our process as yet.
As follows :-
(1). What are the actual assets being offered as security. Fatchett is banking cheques in order to fund the valuation of these assets, so now it is time to state what these assets are. WE INTEND TO EXAMINE THE NATURE AND QUALITY OF THE ASSETS WHEN WE UNDERTAKEN THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS. WE HAVE LAND DOCUMENTS ALREADY. HOWEVER, WE NEED TO LOCAL LAW ADVICE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AN ACCURATE PICTURE. OUR ADVICE WILL BE BASED ON FACTS.
(2). How does RL propose to accept SIPP purchasers into the trust without the consent of the SIPP Trustees? SIPP TRUSTEES IN SOME CASES WANT ADVICE CONFIRMING THE POSITION. WE WILL PROVIDE THIS. WE HAVE REQUESTED THE FCA TO ASSIST IN THE MATTER. WE DO NOT FEEL SIPP TRUSTEES WILL REJECT THE TRUST. SOME HAVE ALREADY AGREED IT.
(2 A). If the SIPP Trustees do not support the trust, where does that leave SIPP clients? IF WE HAVE ANY SERIOUS PROBLEMS WE WILL ASK THE FCA TO INTERVENE. AFTER THAT, WE CAN GO TO THE HIGH COURT AND SEEK A DECLARATION. IN OUR MIND ACADEMIC AS THE SIPP PROVIDERS WILL PLAY BALL (ALBEIT RELUCTANTLY)
(2 C). How many of the Harlequin pink slips have been sent in by SIPP Holders. MATTER FOR HARLEQUIN
(3) RL have stated the Trust is to proceed, and are now banking cheques. Are purchasers now to understand that the trust is now going ahead or proceeding as stated by RL despite the Due Diligence process not having been undertaken? THE TRUST IS PROCEEDING. THE DUE DILIGENCE WILL FOLLOW THE TRUST SET UP. AFTER THAT INVESTORS WILL BE INVITED TO JOIN IT. THIS WILL REQUIRE THE DEED OF WAIVER AND ADVICE FROM RL. AN INFORMED DECISION IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED.
(4) Can RL confirm that now they have commenced banking cheques, that in the event the trust does not proceed that the £200 + VAT will not be refunded. YES. AT THIS POINT WE ARE NOW NON REFUNDABLE.
(5). Given that purchasers are funding the due diligence, will RL tell those purchasers who they propose to use to carry out the valuations.? YES, WHEN WE INSTRUCT, WE WILL PROVIDE THE PARTY NAMES.
(6). In the past RL stated that the trust could only succeed if 25% of purchasers providing pink slips, (some of which are SIPP Purchasers) With a futher possible 13% from Harlequin (unpaid). NOT CORRECT
(b) 62% of purchasers / investors have not opted to join the trust. NOT CORRECT
(7). RL in the past stated that they were provided with evidence that 3rd party funding was being made available to Harlequin. Now on the RL site they are stating that third party funding may be forthcoming. WE HAVE SEEN A LETTER OF INTENT FROM THE 3RD PARTY. WE KNOW WHO THE 3RD PARTY IS. WE DO NOT ACT FOR THE 3RD PARTY. WE HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THE NEGOTIATIONS NOR SHOULD WE. FINANCING IS A MATTER FOR HARLEQUIN.
RL state they cannot go into the details of this financing due to a non disclosure agreement. Not withstanding this can RL state that they have seen documentation which guarantee’s 3rd party funding should the trust succeed and do they believe this funding will be sufficient to allow Harlequin complete as per the contractual commitments. THE LETTER OF INTENT DOCUMENT WOULD NEVER ACT AS A GUARANTEE. THE FINANCIERS AT THIS POINT CANNOT INVEST INTO HARLEQUIN DUE TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE INVESTOR BASE. THEREFORE, THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHETHER FINANCING WILL PROCEED. THESE ARE QUESTIONS WHICH SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO HARLEQUIN NOT RL.
(8). Can RL clarify the position as to the time bar issue on taking action against Harlequin for defaulting on the contracts. Harlequin are looking for waiver of 5 years, will RL confirm what affect this 5 year waiver has on potential future action against Harlequin with respect to contracts now in default. THE WAIVER WILL POSTPONE THE ABILITY FOR INVESTORS TO BRING ACTIONS.
(9). RL are asking purchasers to waive contractual rights in lieu of a trust. What will happen to Harlequin and the trust if or when Ames gets arrested and possibly charged by the Serious Fraud Office. NOT A MATTER WE CAN COMMENT ON. THE SFO INVESTIGATION IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THIS MATTER WHICH IS ENTIRELY AIMED AT SECURING THE ASSETS FOR INVESTORS.
Do you think the redundancy was a coincidence ?
So mote it be.
To be honest I have not posted on here for several months, but feel I have to set the record straight. My husband was not made redundant the firm my husband worked for was relocating and my husband did not want to commute to the new location so decided to leave the company and found a new job. Three people were told that he was made redundant.
As far as I am aware the Masons do a lot for charity in most communities.
I am well aware of who is posting as me and refuse to stoop to their level at this moment in time.
I wish the bloody Mason’s would have a go at Bob the nob, he is the W4nker who caused this cock up.
I bet the Fat Mick paid him, after his subscription (scam) sorry ploy for his PHIG blog never got off the ground…….. was that the masons fault too 🙂
What about the people in the firm? The boss of the firm? The Bank? PAYE? Fellow employees? Neighbors? The job center? The Postman? Your legal advisers? The police? ………………. have a think about that.
Could the relocation be an instruction?
The list of people who report back when requested to do so you could NEVER imagine.
So mote it be.
Erica it is easy to understand why you have not posted here in a couple
of months. I sincerely hope that you and those who took the Crozier
path prevail. For me the RL “trust” is doomed without a forensic audit
of Harlequin from day one and everyone know that that simply will not
happen. If it did it is an one way ticket to prison for DA.
Erica, all I will say is those you think of as friends are not – You are being manipulated somewhat chronically. They are all nice to your face but in reality they are against you.
LATEST NEWS – Buccament Bay would make excellent
repatriation camp for ousted D.R. Haitian community…
Masons horrified…Gonsalves struck dumb
Masonic Codes; Trees, yes, the names/types of trees are very symbolic to the Masons. The weather and trees linked in the same sentence, denotes a cry for help.
Birds are very prominent in the Masonic Codes. The Owl, Eagle, Peregrine Falcon, Robin, Blackbirds Bees are used as a ”I am a Mason” help me!
Have a look and make your own mind up
As an (increasingly) infrequent viewer of this ongoing disaster it does amuse that there is this rather touching faith in UK MP’s being able to intervene in any positive way. The very idea that any of them (post expenses scandals) would want to be in any way associated with a soon to be revealed ponzi scheme is too ludicrous for words. Never rattle the cage when a pig has its snout in the trough – the dearly elected won’t want to be linked to this. As for being a force to bring justice? – well they have done b…..er all about the HSBC and other financial scandals so why bother with this one?
Also slightly worried by the continuing poor use of grammar and spelling in the RL posts – while a degree of license with the English language might be expected from a one handed iPad user wacking one off, you do hope that anyone within close proximity to framing binding legal documents might have a little more respect (and understanding) of just why precise usage is important. Oh well they do say that education standards are slipping in the UK – meh?
Lots of chat starting on TA about the opening of the glorious new airport – it will open in 2015 of course – just in time for the dear leaders election drive. Just what service there will be through it remains highly speculative, but a great opportunity for a party and photo op!
@ A View from your (*) hole.
Wacking one off, please is that how you speak in the Caribbean tut tut?
Give me middle England rather than your crime riddled dirty little Islands with poor medical facilities.
Oh dear me, is that the best you can do? About as effective as the Test team in OZ! Like them you just embarrass yourself.
@ Laughing in you face
No. But it’s all the energy I decided to give you.
Bob Laddel is a bee keeping busybody, unfortunately, he now thinks he is Queen Bee. 😉
He buzzed around the PHIG, investors told him to buzz off with his subs.
He buzzed around IFA’s and SIPP companies, he bored them to death with his silly 8o’s management talk Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The ‘other options’ amounted to sweet buzz all!
Whatever will he think of next?
Maybe he will spring a Honey trap?
Aleister Crowley: Father of Modern Satanism
The most disturbing example of someone being recruited out of Freemasonry into more bizarre occult orders is that of 33rd degree Mason, Aleister Crowley. During his lifetime, Crowley was proclaimed by the press as the most wicked man alive.
Crowley’s perverted life left a string of casualties among those who were foolish enough to get close to this evil man. Crowley’s first wife, Rose entered an insane asylum in 1911; his second wife, Maria entered an asylum in 1931, two years after her marriage to Crowley.
In a locked room with only Crowley and his son present, Crowley performed a ritual in which his son died. . . . On a London street in 1934, a nineteen-year-old girl rushed up to him and declared that she wanted to have his baby. Crowley took her to bed. She, too, later entered an asylum.
Anton LaVey, the High Priest of the Church of Satan states:
“…Masonic orders have contained the most influential men in many governments, and virtually every occult order has many Masonic roots. (3)
Freemasonry is not just an occult secret society. Freemasonry has served for over two hundred years as a fertile recruiting ground for other occult orders. Men who have come together to practice Masonry have many times down through the years formed other organizations to plunge even deeper into the occult.
A interview with Bob Laddel, ”The early years”
I have to say the mason ploy is very clever and effective ,its saying to investors.its not nice what has happened to you ,we are on your side,but you are against the masons so just give up.so sorry.its the masons you cant beat them.very clever indeed
BFP ….please do everyone a favor and kill this thread. It has gotten( on purpose) totally ridiculous and a waste of time with all the Masons postings . It’s all crap and totally irelevant to the topic . It’s just a diversion and smokescreen from Harlequin and Ames being a total failure in their Caribbeam building projects. Total failure.
Lets just take the word ‘Reg Legal’ Now replace the letters with the corresponding letter of the alphabet A=1 B=2 etc.
Reg becomes 1+8+5+7=21 2+1 = 3
Legal becomes 12+5+7+1+12 now change the formula slightly 1+2+5+7+1+1+2 = 18/6 = 3
33 degree.
Coincidence I don’t think so.
Anon – you must realise that the game is up.
You have nowhere to go to speak against the brethren.
Give it up
Erica – you cannot beat us.
Ever wonder why certain people are close to you ?
Do not give us the relocation nonsense. The Brethren have acted.
Jesu Cristo !!!! How I wish that these not-on-topic and, pathetic,
(striving to be somehow thought witty) Masonic posts would end.
1. Go after Ames
2. Go after the money
For the attn of; Mr. Garreth Fatchett
C/O Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Birmingham, UK.
Monday 9th December 2013.
Dear sir, this evening you have suggested on the Harlequininvestors site, a site operated by RL, that you are now considering expansion of your brief from that of establishing a trust to now considering a fractional ownership format to allow for a recommencement of sales of the Harlequin Property product.
Given that purchasers and clients alike have had an expectation from you, as has been confirmed by your good self on many occasions, that your primary role was to protect the current investments of purchasers from further depreciation and to protect purchasers interests through the establishment of a trust, one has to ask who has given you a mandate to expand this remit into establishing a mechanism to allow further sales of the Harlequin product.
You stated previously that you would require at least 75% of purchasers to sign up to the trust in order for RL to proceed. Now despite that factual statement by your good selves and based on your own figures as published by RL which demonstrates far less then 50% support for the trust you have decided to proceed anyway.
One very important question which needs to be asked and indeed answered by you is how much of the £200 + vat contributed by purchasers for the establishment of the trust will now be expended on exploring this new option.
Another question which requires an answer is whether this suggestion has come from RL or Ames / Harlequin.
A number of questions were asked earlier of you, and to you and RL’s credit they were answered. However the answers to a number of the questions may need to be revisited in light of the latest post by RL with respect to the idea of fractional ownership.
You have until now explained the route you are prepared to take to bring SIPP trustees to heel on the issue of joining the trust. However now that you are considering fractional ownership and further sales of the Harlequin product as a solution to the mortgage problem, how do you propose to deal with the SIPP trustees.
You should, however be fully aware of the practical and legal difficulties surrounding such a solution. Firstly given the nature of fractional ownership, it would be recognised by the regulatory authorities as a type of collective investment scheme, and would fall under the heading UCIS, thus preventing the majority of current SIPP holders from partaking in the investment.
You claim that you will force the SIPP trustees into submission by going to the UK high court if you feel that is necessary. However now that you are suggesting the possibility that the trust will lead onto some form of fractional ownership you must realise that by law the SIPP trustees will be precluded from engaging with your trust proposals.
The resultant legal threats from RL against the SIPP trustees will now as a result carry no weight with their legal teams.
You have also claimed to have had sight of a letter of intent by some third party financiers with respect to their intention (by virtue of the fact they have provided a letter of intent) to provide funding to Harlequin, you further state that you are aware of the identity of these third party financiers.
If such financiers exist one has to ask why do RL feel it necessary, to now at the 11th hour announce a radical new proposal on fractional ownership as a way to fund the mortgage gap.
Of course you will state that the mortgage issue is separate and distinct from the issue of external finance, so this brings us to the question of why the fractional ownership option is being mooted at such an early stage.
Can we remind you that Harlequin have only completed on some 100 units out of a total of some 6000. It will be at best a number of years before the issue of purchasers needing to come up with the 70% completion monies arises.
You will also be aware that Harlequin and Mr. Ames told us many months ago that in excess of 50% of purchasers on the 100 or so completed properties were in a position to complete.
However on the RL site recently it was stated that no completions had occurred. Would it not now be prudent of RL to ascertain from Harlequin how many purchasers are indeed in a position to complete on the 100 or so properties ?. Are these completions subject to possible litigation given Ames’s promises in the past to provide mortgages ?.
What are the true reasons behind Harlequin’s apparent inability to obtain the completion funding from purchasers for the 100 or so completed properties ?.
Ames opened up these completions to any investors with the cash to complete, regardless of where their initial investment property was located.
We are talking about 1.6% of total properties planned yet it appears that Ames is unable to obtain the 70% completion on this 1.6%. This must be setting off alarm bells even with RL. It certainly would not instil confidence in any proposed financiers.
Is the sudden mooting of fractional ownership a bid to obtain completion funds for the first 100 units ?.
If fractional ownership is being mooted now by RL as a solution to the funding problems, what mandate will RL be seeking from purchasers. Surely nothing less then 100% support will be required ?.
Who will be responsible for drafting all the brand new contracts?.Who will be asked to fund the huge amount of legal work required? Will this responsibility fall on the shoulders of the existing purchasers?. Who will manage the new arrangement ?. Who will pay for a valuation of the individual properties?. How will an accurate valuation on the value of the units be derived at ?. In the absence of any independently audited accounts for the hotel operation?. What fraction of the units will be offered to existing purchasers?.
Are RL suggesting that Harlequin are contemplating the sale of fractional ownership of units as a way to raise construction finance in the event that third party financing will not be available ?.
Can RL set out in the clearest manner how they see the fractional ownership model working with respect to purchasers who have already paid 30% deposits ?.
Will new purchasers be asked to provide the 70% owing ?.
What if the independent RED BOOK valuation values the properties well below the prices they have been sold for ?.
Are existing purchasers being asked to take massive hair cuts whilst new purchasers can come in for a song ?.
If as RL have stated, that they have been given sight of a letter of intent from a third party financier, what other conditions apply in order to allow the draw down of the funds ?. Surely if a letter of intent has indeed been issued, a certain amount of due diligence will have already been conducted on Harlequin. Where is this due diligence and can RL confirm that due diligence by the third party financier has been carried out ?.
In a previous post you were asked about the time bar issue with respect to the waiver being proposed in purchasers contracts. You failed however to either understand the question, or worse still, you may have deliberately skirted around the issue in order to mislead investors.
So we will ask the question in the most simplest terms possible.
If a purchaser waives their rights to sue Harlequin and or the Ames’s for breaches of their contracts for a period of 5 years, will that then preclude them from suing Harlequin and or the Ames family on the conclusion of the 5 year period as a result of the statute of limitations, the time bar issue ?.
Could RL make it absolutely clear what the repercussions are for purchasers who sign 5 year waivers with respect to their contracts ?.
Will purchasers be able to sue Harlequin and or Ames for breaches of their contracts after the 5 years have elapsed or could they be time barred ?.
We are amazed by the sudden options now being mooted by RL. RL have been at pains to point out to all, the complexities associated with the establishment of the trust. Now they are suggesting that the trust could lead onto fractional ownership.
6000 purchasers currently have some 9000 contracts for properties with 100 built. RL have yet to carry out due diligence for the trust and now are suggesting expanding the customer base in order to raise funds. RL have not had sight of audited accounts, no sight of audited occupancy figures, no real idea if the business model works.
Have RL been given sight of all planning permissions ?. Can they state that all of the land in the RDC’s is owned by the respective RDC’s ?.
RL claimed they were acting in the interests of purchasers, they have acknowledged there were many problems associated with Harlequin in the past.
The Serious Fraud Office is currently investigating Harlequin and possibly the Ames family and senior management of Harlequin.
The FCA have issued a number of warnings on Harlequin.
CIB is looking into the activities of the Harlequin operations.
The sales arm for Harlequin HMSSE is in administration.
Many current purchasers are facing extreme financial hardship with some facing bankruptcy.
And even against this back drop RL are now contemplating the idea of seeking new purchasers through fractional ownership in order to bridge the funding gap as a result of difficulties with obtaining completion mortgages.
RL do not even know if the RDC’s as being proposed will be profitable.
It is time that RL explained in simple terms how they see all this working, or indeed why they raised the idea of fractional ownership at this stage.
It does appear that this is yet another curve ball by Harlequin and an indicator that Harlequin are financially on their last legs.
We have appreciated RL’s responses in the past and look forward to their response to this letter.
Open Letter aka Dave Mann
Did anyone ever the you you waffle on? Nobody reads it, save your time matey 🙂
Go and say hello to you ex partner you’re not that far away. What’s up still bitter you missed out on the big payday?
Reasons to be cautious.
– mobile phone bugging
– land line bugging
– surveillance
– accessing your PC
– social media account access
– just about, well, anything!
Why do some people think we don’t know what’s been said or planned?
@ open letter….excellent letter and one that RL will need to answer in full to retain credibility
Still the question how can you take in over £400million, for selling propoerty on land you do not own or have the required afficial consent. Then go on to build only 100 out of sales of 6000 and then actually sell a further 3000 properties which are not yours to sell……and not expect some serious questions
How can this not be fraud…go broke coz you ran the business badly…but to sell things you do not own is absolute fraud….with or without any masonic involvement (assuming there is) this is just too big to avoid the spotlight and jail for DA and his abusive hand in the till cronies
If this was simply a case of not being good at running a business, HP and DA would hand over all the paperwork and accounts for the accountants etc to resolve……now why would he not lat this happen….evidence of fraud…..yes that will be why
@an honest mason…yes 99% are
Is it of your own free-will and accord, you post on here?
Open Letter person – why not post this on the RL site ?
Be open.
They won’t post it because it’s O’ Halloran the Irish builder and / or Dave Mann – Ames ex partner.
Erica’the’crackpot, keeps them all updated from the forum and basically on anything and everything she can. Don’t forget she needs to earn her retainer from them.
I in turn, update the Brotherhood, of what she say’s, spoken or electronically…. pretty funny old world. 🙂
It looks like a few investors on the RL site are beginning to realize that
the Emperor (the Trust) has no clothes on………
what I most desired
yes I come here of my own free will and accord, for which I am properly prepared
I am not an investor or have any connection with anybody or organisation here……I post as a regular visitor to the Caribbean as a man of honour who can see the damage this has done to a lot of people/countries and and disgusted that it has gone on so long. I am equally surprised if the brotherhood are supporting this as whilst we look after our brethren, we do not support crime and fraud
It could be O’ Halloran, Man or even Jesus himself.
The points being raised are very interesting. RL need to explain themselves. It is they who are providing the information. And it is this information which is being analysed.
Ames needs the trust because he believes this will prevent him from being prosecuted.
Ames needs the fractional ownership idea to work because there are no other sources of funds.
A year ago we had the Caldora Harlequin Investment Fund. Then letters of intent from Financiers, now fractional ownership.
Ames is playing Fatchett like a puppet. Fatchett has held himself out as the great saviour of the people.
So now it is time Fatchett explained himself. Many on his site are now beginning to question not only the trust but Fatchett himself.
The trust is not for the purchasers its is for Ames
It seems that Ames and indeed Fatchett will try and block any probes into their current plans. So lets just allow dozens more meaningless masonic related bullshit, in order to clog up this forum.
There are many, many people with an interest in Harlequin who view these posts.
Reg becomes 1+8+5+7=21 2+1 = 3
Legal becomes 12+5+7+1+12 now change the formula slightly 1+2+5+7+1+1+2 = 6/18 = 3
33 degree.
Coincidence?????
It gets worse by the day, the Masonic code hidden in plain sight.
Numbers are pure they can not lie.
Using the same formula A=1 B=2
Buccament
2+22+22+1+13+3+14+21 add the single digits = 26 2/ 6 = 3
Bay
2+1+26 =29 2×9 = 18 now it gets a little more cunning
1+8 = 9
3/9 l Masonic 3 from above gives you 3
33 degree the same as Reg Legal.
Two 33 degree’s – what’s the chance of that being random?
All documents, letters and meaning, are hidden in plain sight to non Masons.
Spooky?
Anonymous
December 10, 2013 at 5:53 pm
Hello Erica 🙂
I spy with my little eye….
should have gone to specsavers as it is not Erica
Again using the simple code again.
Dave Ames
Dave
4+1+23+5 =33
Ames
1+1+3+5+2+0 = 12 1+3 = 3
In Masonic families( usually the case) this simply means the son MUST progress from the 3rd degree to the 33 degree, or bring shame on the family.
Support and protection is guaranteed, by the Brotherhood.
Numbers are pure can’t lie. Yes the numbers do not lie. Some 6000 purchasers. Some 9000 contracts. Some 100 units completed. Some £400 million spent. No money available to build. No money available to carry out valuations.
RL now suggesting pooling ownership which frees up properties to be resold.
Hang on RL there are only 100 properties complete. And why can Ames not get purchasers to complete on these???????????
Anyone wish to hazard a guess????????????
Oh yeah because the bulk of the completed properties have already been paid for in full or as close to it as far back as 2008.
And now because Fatchett is being led by tge nose by Ames, Fatchett the great saviour is clutching at any straw Ames dangles in front of him. See with out the cooperation of Ames, the trust can never get off the ground.
So Ames tells Fatchett he needs to buy into the idea of fractional ownership.
Look at the mess 9000 contracts are in. Now Fatchett thinks that this whizzy idea of fractional ownership will save the day. So Fatchett where will the money still come from to build the resorts? How big a commission will agents or the Ames family be paid for selling these new units. What will happen all the existing SIPP investors?
Why don’t you ask Reg legal yourself, on their blog not here you cock
RL only put the market for contracts out there for discussion and debate. What’s wrong with that ?
It has not escaped them that Harlequin is a mess. Nor has is escaped them that the BFP anti brigade want Harlequin to fail for their own reasons.
@ Can’t Fix Thick People
The beauty about BFP is anyone can make a comment or question the motives of Ames, Harlequin or indeed RL and Mr. Fatchett.
Many interesting but probing questions of RL and Mr. Fatchett have unsurprisingly been removed by RL and Mr. Fatchett on the Harlequininvestors Forum.
There are also no guarantees that the personal details of posters on the Harlequininvestorgroup website are kept confidentially.
We had Mr. Fatchett stating in answering a number of questions put up on this forum the other day that he knew the identity of the author of the questions. Rather odd when it was I who posted that particular post and I remain anonymous.
Possibly what Mr. Fatchett should have said is that he has a very good idea who asked those questions. But he did not. Instead stating as fact that he knew who I was when sadly that is impossible. He may continue to speculate as to my identity.
It is also a rather bizarre notion to believe that the usual suspects, Mr. O’Halloran, Mr. Newman, Wilkins Kennedy, Mrs. Broughton and now Mr. Man are the only people on this planet with an axe to grind with Harlequin.
But Ames and indeed possibly Mr. Fatchett may want everyone to believe that distrust in Ames and Harlequin is being generated by those individuals named above.
We had Mr. Fatchett stating previously that he would need the mandate of 75% + of purchasers before proceeding with the trust.Yet with less then 24% of purchasers signing up to the trust Mr. Fatchett decided to proceed anyway.
Now if that appeared on the RL forum, I guess it would have been removed very shortly afterwards. Remember there is only one option, that being Mr. Fatchett’s option. Those who have asked probing questions of Mr. Fatchett before deciding on the trust have faced threats of legal action. Guardian SIPP springs to mind.
Mr. Ames and Mr. Fatchett fully understand that many many people with an interest in Harlequin follow events on BFP. These include Harlequin Staff, the Ames family, RL, Garreth Fatchett, Purchasers and many others with an interest in Harlequin including IP’s and the UK authorities.
So BFP is a logical, safe and secure conduit for individuals to raise issues and probe the reasoning behind events as they unfold pertaining to Harlequin and RL.
BFP is indeed a safe place for the mentally unstable to talk about things they no nothing about…….. they are watching me……. the bird table made me do it……….. or was it the blue peg? The peg is watching me now….. wait…. the blue planter moved…. the boys in blue are behind it!!!!!!
Help the Masons are coming……..
The mental instability of purchasers if such exists has been caused in the main by the stark reality of the situation they find them selves in. Many have lost their life savings and pensions and some are even facing bankruptcy.
The mental instability of Ames sadly appears to have been a genetically inherited trait.
The mental instability of senior members of Harlequin is as a result of the very real threat that they will eventually be brought to account for their illegal activities and will find their liberty curtailed for some period of time.
The constant references to masonic conspiracies are less as a result of any mental illness on the part of those particular posters but more to do with Harlequin supporters trying to disrupt any reasoned debate on the issues surrounding Harlequin.
Fatchett is fast loosing credibility after the debacle of the mandate for the trust.
Where is Fachett does not represent me? Aka 36 . Aka Bob Storey. After spouting crap for over two years…. Now totally silent…..instructed to because DA and Fachett are in bed together…..or not?
Read old posts from RL on Harlequin and wonder how anything good (for investors) could ever come out of this unholy union.
For years now Harlequin has featured prominently on BFP.
In latter months much of the debate surrounding Harlequin has descended into personal attacks and nonsensical postings.
Much of this was appears to have been an attempt to divert attention away from the true facts surrounding Harlequin.
Harlequin for years acted aggressively against anyone who dared to speak out against Harlequin and the Ames family. Engaging the firm of Carter Ruck on a very regular basis and who do not come cheap.
The constant legal threats by Harlequin and Ames against critics of the business model in itself fuelled the increasing scepticism and distrust of Ames and Harlequin amongst a growing number of individuals.
Harlequin would announce new products and update progression of their developments with great fanfare and massive enthusiasm.
But behind all the fantastic PR a very different story was emerging.
We have since discovered that Mr. Ames apparently had no control for years over the development of the resorts, nor any control over construction expenditure on these resorts.
Mr. Ames and his wife apparently concentrated on selling and marketing the properties leaving the responsibility for the construction of the resorts to unconnected third parties and rather bizarrely the management of the construction of the resorts to Wilkins Kennedy Harlequin’s accountants.
We however discovered as a result of the Irish Court case, that Mrs Carol Ames, wife of Dave Ames and the managing director of HMSSE , the primary sales arm for Harlequin’s overseas portfolios had no idea how many purchasers Harlequin had, had no idea how many contracts had been entered into and had no idea how much money her company had turned over.
This was a truly bizarre admission on the part of the managing director of a company which has claimed on many occasions to have sold in excess of £1.3 billion pounds or BDS 4 billion dollars worth of property in the Caribbean. To put this in context this was equivalent to 2.5 times the 2012 Barbados Budget Expenditure.
So what was Mrs. Ames’s role?
In an even more bizarre twist Mrs. Ames stated that Wilkins Kennedy controlled the finances and sales of HMSSE.
We have been told by Harlequin that Mr. Ames was a hugely successful entrepreneur with a raft of successful businesses under his belt. It was then revealed that Mr. Ames had been personally bankrupt twice in the 1990’s.
This in itself is not unheard of. Some successful entrepreneurs have faced bankruptcy before succeeding. However there is nothing available on any of Mr. Ames’s businesses prior to the establishment of the overseas property development company in 2001.
From 2008 Mr. Ames began claiming that individuals and companies engaged by him had been misappropriating money from his companies. The claims continued until Harlequin won a misappropriation claim against one of their contractors in the Irish Civil Courts.
However from 2006 to mid 2010 according to the Ames family, financial control, control of the construction activities and the decision making processes attached to all this had basically been ceded to Wilkins Kennedy and one of their equity partners Mr. Martin MacDonald.
Why was this if Mr. Ames was such a successful business man for the previous 30 years? If what the Ames’s are telling us now is true why did Mr. Ames allow so much control of his international property portfolio rest in the hands of an accountancy firm in the UK.
Mr. Ames expressed concerns as early as 2008 that all was not well with Harlequin yet why did he not act more decisively then. Did he just sit idly back whilst knowing something was amiss?
Mr. Ames has claimed that Wilkins Kennedy have acted negligently towards him and his businesses. Wilkins Kennedy resigned three and a half years ago and to date Harlequin have taken no action against this company.
Indeed neither have Shipley’s LLP the administrators of HMSSE, the company Mrs. Ames claims was basically run and controlled by Wilkins Kennedy.
Harlequin have been unable to obtain construction finance or end mortgages to date for any of their resorts. Were Wilkins Kennedy also given this task and why if so did Mr. Ames not seek secondary independent advice on this issue when it became obvious that third party funding was unavailable.
We have since learned from Garreth Fatchett that the purchaser contracts in their current format are the main stumbling block for Harlequin to be in a position to raise third party finance.
In light of this recent revelation from RL one has to ask why this was not picked up by Wilkins Kennedy in the early stages of their assisting Harlequin in obtaining third party finance.
Harlequin have in recent months intimated that they intend at some point to pursue Wilkins Kennedy for professional negligence but have yet to commence legal action.
The Irish Judge was scathing of the involvement of an equity partner of Wilkins Kennedy in the fraudulent misrepresentation in the Irish case. So the question has to be asked, as to why to date Harlequin have not instigated legal action against Wilkins Kennedy and Mr. MacDonald the equity partner.
A few weeks ago Mr. Garreth Fatchett of Regulatory Legal announced that they were going to support Harlequin in a professional negligence claim against Wilkins Kennedy, but this was followed shortly afterwards by a further statement from Regulatory Legal that they were not going to become involved in anyway with any litigation between Harlequin and Wilkins Kennedy.
Harlequin began legal proceedings against a Mr. Jeremy Newman, Wilkins Kennedy and Mr. MacDonald for their alleged part in operating what Harlequin alleged to be a massively defamatory website called Harlecon.
This culminated in a mediation process being held recently where the settlement was covered by a non disclosure agreement. About four years earlier Harlequin successfully sued the owners of a site called the singing pig in the UK. Why did Harlequin however decide to go down the mediation route with the Harlecon defamation case. Why if they had nothing to hide did they not go to trial. The trial would have given Harlequin a golden opportunity to vindicate themselves very publicly.
The failure of Harlequin to proceed with the defamation litigation has only led to increased speculation that Harlequin had something to hide, which would have come out in the resultant court case, had not the mediation taken place.
It is worth mentioning that both Wilkins Kennedy and Mr. MacDonald denied any involvement in the website and this denial was contained in the agreed statement that was subsequently released.
Oddly enough the attacks on BFP against Wilkins Kennedy, Mr. MacDonald and Mr. Newman ceased soon after the conclusion of the mediation.
If what Mr. and Mrs. Ames are saying is true about the role Wilkins Kennedy played in Harlequin then all Mr. Ames can be accused of is massive naivety, it also demonstrates that Mr. and Mrs. Ames were demonstrably incompetent in their management of their businesses and of purchasers funds.
So why would RL and Mr. Fatchett feel that purchasers interests are being protected by way of a trust with the Ames family still at the helm.
And why are the SFO continuing to investigate Harlequin when all they can be accused of is naivety and incompetency.
Surely the SFO should be concentrating their efforts on the true perpetrators of the events that lead to losses of close to £400 million.
If the Ames family are to be believed surely RL would have a valid redress claim against Wilkins Kennedy.
RL have demonstrated that they have no issues going after the SIPP Trustees and IFA’s, so why not go after the de facto managers of the business Wilkins Kennedy?
All of the above is based on the word of the Ames family. Are they really just a naive family? Did Wilkins Kennedy also tell them to pay huge commissions, did Wilkins Kennedy tell them that there was nothing wrong with the Ames family taking in excess of £20 million from HMSSE ?
It is possible. Or are the Ames family compulsive liars?
The facts as they are now is that Harlequin as a group is insolvent. Purchasers will never see their mortgages paid again. The promised 10% returns will now not happen. The cumulative value of the trust could be as little as 2.5% of original monies invested.
So the question is, if we are to believe the Ames family as in all the above, why is Garreth Fatchett happy to allow basically two naive and incompetent individuals retain control of the companies, further more even entertaining the idea that more new purchasers be sought as part of the fractional ownership plans.
On the other hand if all the above is not true why should purchasers trust a pair of compulsive liars.
@Harlequin back to reality – Mann (with 2 N’s) Pot Licker & Jabba the hut
MEP for short (Mann Erica Paddy)
Boring boring same old, same old.How odd you never mentioned the Irish potato face in this – How many millions did he nick $50?
You Cock 😉
The missing threads – OMG- Phone the SFO NOW!
The Irish builder ripped off Ames, along with possibly many others, because they could. Simple.
Do you actually have a point?
You like Bob the Nob, offer no alternative. Just spent hours trying to be a smart arse.
Post on the RL site, only nutters come on here 😉
I just found this on my PC, some one has has full access to all my files, made copies.
Security Alert: Win33/Rbot
Win33/Rbot is a Trojan that opens a backdoor on the PCs that it infects to allow hackers to gain access. It creates the following file on infected systems:
C:\Windows\System 33\%variable%.exe
In addition to creating this file, it also creates the following registry entries:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
\Run\”Windows Layer” = “%system%\%variable%.exe”
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
\RunServices\”Windows Layer” = “%system%\%variable%.exe”
I should have said regarding the backdoor virus I took action against Harlequin – could it be related – who knows?
All,
We have just under 500 survey returns which is very good. It is clear that this site is very unified behind what we are seeking to achieve. The survey allows us to negotiate with a good feel for the position. The figures are statistically accurate to +/- 5%.
RL has received 89% of the Pink Forms, Harlequin 10.5% and PHIG 0.5%. The result we suspect will be reversed for the people not on this site. This is the issue which stands as the clearest threat to the Harlequin Investor Trust. It is also the issue which divides the mandate between RL Pink Forms and Harlequin Pink Forms. The trust process is viable with both the two groups of Pink Forms. Without a unified process, the trust is a not starter. The meeting on the 13th December 2013 between ourselves and Harlequin is to resolve this point.
73% have written to their MP. We need a final push on this from those people who have not yet taken time to do this.
93% of people are unable to complete without a mortgage facility. The creation of a stable Harlequin and the environment where mortgages can be offered is crucial. These are matters post Trust / re-finance so therefore, not pressing now. However, they will become pressing as without mortgages only 6% of people will be able to complete.
Conclusion
We have one roadblock to clear with the Pink Forms. We cannot and will not allow our clients to have an advice process which is less than independent. We are also not going to entertain a “sign here” process where people do not understand what they are giving up / obtaining. This needs to be done properly or not at all.
We know from speaking to David Ames that we wants to find a resolution behind the Harlequin Pink Form problem. We cannot fund all the disbursements, offer the advice. undertake the due diligence from only our clients. We are also not going to be put in a position where our legal output is shared with those who are not our clients, have not paid etc.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
RL = Ambulance Chaser ….nothing more, nothing less. Clear as day .
Bob Ladde = Pervy Bob
Well it seems like Mr Laddell and Sonia Stenning under the watchful eye of our great visionary have made a right Royal Cock up!
Paddy you may get your way Laddel and Stennings may just have F***ked up the Trust.
gareth , I think if your reading this its time you got on with the redress claims and let the trust go hang , its not working for you for the investors or even for harlequin . Thank you Bob and goodnight
Banking leader ‘Bob The Banker’ has faced shareholders and stated that “we can’t fix this.” The Pink Problem… give me all the money….
Bob The W anker, known also as ‘Bob the nob’, ‘Pervy Bob’ ‘Bee keeping Bob’ ‘Busybody Bob’ ‘Bob the nob nosher’ ‘Bob Bloke stuck in the 80’s’
And simply, Bob, but pronounced in a Black Adder inflection.
Maybe, the Irish builder got to him, just like a certain woman who ran a blog (badly).
It’s down to money; she had a refund and a retainer.
Unfortunately, for her dysfunctional family, the price was her sanity.
RL are going to war. Prepare for the Blue Forms.
RL couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag ……….. Ames got the last laugh -again.
Does this mean I get my £240 back?
The best laugh Ames had was beating Paddy in Court & selling all his assets – That was a real hoot 😉
That’s terrible, fancy selling the assets of someone who stolen investors money!
Dave Ames – Robin Hood of the Caribbean!
Ames knows it’s over now.
RL know its over. Their focus will change soon.
All it takes is one fearless MP…
I have met my Fraternal MP, the Masonic wheels are in motion. This will be mentioned in all the right places.
So mote it be.
It’s getting a tad troublesome, do I need to instigate def com 3366 on certain individuals?
Bob and Sonia sing farewell to Dave as he goes to Jail……and his baby is taken away…….
By jingo I’ve finnaly figured out the master plan!!!
He is going to share a cell with Matt – just to get away from Carol 🙂
Sherley – You’ve been away too long, surely !!
Shhhhhhhh that’s Daves bit on the side………
why would anyone believe anything from the HP lot.? there are various videos on you tube where they are telling blatent lies. there are numerous sales letters/ mail shots/ updates which have all proven totally untrue and ill founded. the latest from shipleys is that they are still (some six+ months later) waiting from H to provide them with information …since the last set of accounts for HMSSE that were filed which are available on web check (that in themselves would have referred the the previous yrs trading) there has been no information in the public on the ins and outs of HMSSE since then. so we have no way of knowing just how much was paid in /out or what the directors took in dividends before deciding to call in shipleys???
Hotline to Shipley’s may need a call to focus minds
Imagine this.
A Worldwide organisation who swear allegiance to help each other. An organisation that has senior people in ALL aspects of life, there is NOBODY they can’t ‘get to’.
Imagine:
The Police, Government, regulatory authorities, the Royal Family, HMRC, your boss or your bosses boss, the council, Customs, Banks, Law Firms, Judges; the list is endless.
Imagine:
If you wronged some of them? What chance would you have? The havoc they would cause? That’s why they literally get away with murder……
This stuff is mild
http://listverse.com/2012/11/21/top-10-scandalous-freemason-secrets/
Message to Mrs Broughton.
We have a back up of your face book account, email (accounts including the spoof ones)
You have been very, very , foolish indeed.
Extract from Stephen Knight’s book; The Brotherhood. – Christopher, a senior Whitehall Civil Servant and Freemason explained that Masonry’s nationwide organisation of men from most walks of life provided one of the most efficient private intelligence networks ever imaginable. Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of Masonic contacts – police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers, Post Office staff, [very useful in supplying copies of a man’s mail, and especially if you say the “target” is a sex offender – Julian Assange comes to mind [1]], doctors, government employee, bosses of firms and nationalised industries etc., and a dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly.
When the major facts of an individual’s life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice – if married he might retain a mistress or have proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence [easily obtainable through Freemason police of doubtful virtue], or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging Masons network of 600,000 contacts [2] [this number has perhaps increased by at least a third since this article was originally written in 1984, though it’s normally accepted by the UGLE that there are 400,000 members in the UK, though as I say, I believe the figure to be much higher. Perhaps Knight was also referring to other Freemasons further abroad, or other affiliations such as the Rotarians, Odd Fellows etc.], a great many of whom were disposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motives for joining.
Even decent Masons could often be conned into providing information on the basis that: “Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved”. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow Mason to the Brother from whom information was sought perhaps someone with access to his bank manager or employer. The good Mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemasons Hall whether or not this was so. The “target” was presented as a “Brother” in distress by a fellow Freemason, especially a fellow Lodge member that would be enough for any upright member of the Craft. Sometimes this information gathering process – often involving a long chain of Masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad – would be unnecessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him. I asked how this action might be taken. “Solicitors are very good at it” said Christopher. “Get your man involved in something legal – it need not be serious – and you have him”. Solicitors, I was told, are past masters at causing endless delays, generating useless paperwork, ignoring instructions, running up immense bills, misleading clients into taking decisions damaging to themselves, [and this I can vouch for, and one of the reasons I dislike and don’t trust many people of the so called ‘legal fraternity’], Masonic police can harass, arrest on false charges, and plant evidence. “A businessman in a small community or person in public office arrested for dealing in child pornography, for indecent exposure, or for trafficking in drugs is at the end of the line”, said Christopher. “He will never work again. Some people have committed suicide after experiences of that kind”.
Freemasons can bring about the situation where credit companies and banks withdraw credit facilities from individual clients and tradesmen, said my informant. Bank can foreclose. People who rely on the telephone for their work can be cut off for long periods. Masonic employees of local authorities can arrange for a person’s drains to be inspected and extensive damage to be reported, thus burdening the person with huge repair bills; workmen carrying out the job can find – in reality cause – further damage. Again with regard to legal matters, a fair hearing is hard to get when a man in ordinary circumstances is in financial difficulties. If he is trying to fight a group of unprincipled Freemasons skilled in using the ‘network’ it will be impossible because “Masonic Department of Health and Social Security and Law Society officials can delay applications for Legal Aid endlessly. [3] Employers, if they are Freemasons or not can be given private information about a man who has made himself an enemy of Masonry. At worst he will be dismissed or consistently passed over for promotion”. Christopher added.
“Masonic doctors can also be used. But for some reason doctors seem to be the least corruptible men. Only the fighters have any hope of beating the system once it’s at work against them”, he told me. “Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It’s . . . you see, I … you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of a person’s life. If they give in they go under. If they don’t give in its only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them. – There is no defence against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists”. Christopher – Senior Whitehall Civil Servant and Freemason – Quoted in Stephen Knight’s book: The Brotherhood, 1984.
-Be careful What is your point?
It appears that most of the LOSERS re: HD are masons.
So this has become a blog about Masons..nice work Harlequin!
Fatshit is a liar.
Fatshit stated that the trust would only proceed after due diligence etc.
No due diligence. No idea of value of assets to be held in trust. Yet Fatshit banks cheques and states trust is proceeding.
Fatshit said trust would not proceed if fewer then 75% of purchasers / pink slips were received.
Currently on based on Fatshits figures, Fatshit only has 20% of pink slips.
Even with the claimed 20% pink slips Harlequin claim to have Fatshit only has 40%. Still 35% shy of the mandate Fatshit stated he needed. Still he has now banked the cheques.
Fatshit tells PHIG that seeking independent legal advice at this stage is ill conceived. Fatshit should be reminded of the advice from the FCA.
Fatshit is encouraging investors to join the trust. By virtue of doing this he is encouraging investors to waive their contractual right to pursue Ameless / Harlequin in the future. Investors will be time barred from taking legal action against Ameless / Harlequin in 5 years, but Ameless / Harlequin will be able to pursue mortgage clients for mortgage payments Ameless / Harlequin paid on their behalf.
Fatshit goes on about PHIG and Bob Laddel. PHIG are Harlequin. They operate from ELS offices. Surely Fatshit is not suggesting that ELS are conflicted by representing Harlequin and Purchasers. Why has Fatshit never raised this obvious conflict, because PHIG is Harlequin, there is no conflict.
Fatshit has lied. He has taken monies under false pretences. He has attempted to surreptitiously coerce purchasers into joining a trust by stating that it is the trust or nothing. He continues to maintain that he Fatshit has over whelming support for the trust even though by his own figures he only has 20%.
Fatshit is also asking agents and IFA’s to stump up £200 + vat. Agents and IFA’s received units in lieu of cash. Yet Fatshit is also seeking to sue these same agents.
Fatshit is now running around like a headless chicken. This is not about the trust succeeding its about getting in the wonga.
Fatshit by his own figures banked £360,000 + vat this week.
Fatshit says this is not enough to pay for the due diligence, valuations etc. so he needs the £380,000 + vat from Harlequin. But what if Ameless does not have 1800 pink slips. What if they are not genuine. How many of both Fatshit and Ameless’s pink slips are from SIPP purchasers.
We will never know the truth because Fatshit is demonstrating that he is just as untrustworthy as Ameless.
What we do know, is as of yet no one knows the assets to be held in trust. No one knows the value of these assets. No one knows if external finance will ever be available. No one knows how many purchasers have genuinely signed pink slips. No one knows the occupancy of the resorts. No one knows the accounting of any of the Caribbean companies. No one knows if Ameless will be arrested. No one knows how much Ameless or Harlequin owe creditors in the Caribbean. No one knows what land is owned by Harlequin and what land is owned by Ameless. No one knows how many purchasers there really are. No one knows how many contracts have been written and signed. No one knows the value of all the assets. No one knows …………………….
What we do know. Harlequin are insolvent. Ameless is desperate so too now is Fatshit.
Purchasers are finding making mortgage payments difficult.
Pension funds have been decimated.
Ameless continues to fly first class.
For the love of God can’t some authority in England step in and stop
this ongoing massacre. I always thought Wall Street had a license to
rob but it looks like any snake-oil salesman in the UK can do just
about anything —-and this means both Ames and Fatchett.
fatshit is about etc etc
A lot of serious questions there….I am not anvestor but watching this sorry saga go from bad to disaster.
Here are a couple more questions that never seem to get any answer:
What about the monies taken for Brazil, DR and other locations, where the land is not even owned or planning permission obtained by DA/HP
Why is it the only thing that is being persued is BBay and the only thing being offered is the bits of BBay that cant be sold….how do you sell footpaths etc to recoup your investment…would you buy the assets offered for the trust if you had £400 million?
Why has HP/DA not been forced to hand over acounts/documents or charged with criminal offences for not providing as running a company with no accounts is illegal, especislyy on that had £400 million pass through its hands
A single question direct to Gareth Fachett…..why do you seem to be pandering to look after investers when it does seem obvious that you are assisting Dave Ames…Investors either want their money back (which just is not going to happen….without legal action against people that still have the funds to pay the court awarded payouts, or see Dave Ames and his crew locked up (or even both)Gareth you need to restore faith that you are serious about investors
answers please
not Erica, not The Irish Builder, infact a mere passer by who wonders how a frqud of this size cant be sorted quickly
Anon 9:01 spot on there
Desperate aren’t we Mann Erica Paddy ( MEP) 😉
That’s just too boring to read, strange no mention about that Robbing Ishish fat scrunt? 😉
Ames is having a laugh about Paddy and selling his assets…… Fatchett about making millions…………….;)
Erica is just……………………. well fat 😉 and really has bad breath ;(
Lets not forget why he has P issed his pampers
Fatty it’s over you have lost 😉
More of the same
http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/article/harlequin-wins-fraud-case-against-construction-group/545395
I am Matt Ames.
Fatshit is a liar.
Fatshit stated that the trust would only proceed after due diligence etc.
No due diligence. No idea of value of assets to be held in trust. Yet Fatshit banks cheques and states trust is proceeding.
Fatshit said trust would not proceed if fewer then 75% of purchasers / pink slips were received.
Currently on based on Fatshits figures, Fatshit only has 20% of pink slips.
Even with the claimed 20% pink slips Harlequin claim to have Fatshit only has 40%. Still 35% shy of the mandate Fatshit stated he needed. Still he has now banked the cheques.
Fatshit tells PHIG that seeking independent legal advice at this stage is ill conceived. Fatshit should be reminded of the advice from the FCA.
Fatshit is encouraging investors to join the trust. By virtue of doing this he is encouraging investors to waive their contractual right to pursue Ameless / Harlequin in the future. Investors will be time barred from taking legal action against Ameless / Harlequin in 5 years, but Ameless / Harlequin will be able to pursue mortgage clients for mortgage payments Ameless / Harlequin paid on their behalf.
Fatshit goes on about PHIG and Bob Laddel. PHIG are Harlequin. They operate from ELS offices. Surely Fatshit is not suggesting that ELS are conflicted by representing Harlequin and Purchasers. Why has Fatshit never raised this obvious conflict, because PHIG is Harlequin, there is no conflict.
Fatshit has lied. He has taken monies under false pretences. He has attempted to surreptitiously coerce purchasers into joining a trust by stating that it is the trust or nothing. He continues to maintain that he Fatshit has over whelming support for the trust even though by his own figures he only has 20%.
Fatshit is also asking agents and IFA’s to stump up £200 + vat. Agents and IFA’s received units in lieu of cash. Yet Fatshit is also seeking to sue these same agents.
Fatshit is now running around like a headless chicken. This is not about the trust succeeding its about getting in the wonga.
Fatshit by his own figures banked £360,000 + vat this week.
Fatshit says this is not enough to pay for the due diligence, valuations etc. so he needs the £380,000 + vat from Harlequin. But what if Ameless does not have 1800 pink slips. What if they are not genuine. How many of both Fatshit and Ameless’s pink slips are from SIPP purchasers.
We will never know the truth because Fatshit is demonstrating that he is just as untrustworthy as Ameless.
What we do know, is as of yet no one knows the assets to be held in trust. No one knows the value of these assets. No one knows if external finance will ever be available. No one knows how many purchasers have genuinely signed pink slips. No one knows the occupancy of the resorts. No one knows the accounting of any of the Caribbean companies. No one knows if Ameless will be arrested. No one knows how much Ameless or Harlequin owe creditors in the Caribbean. No one knows what land is owned by Harlequin and what land is owned by Ameless. No one knows how many purchasers there really are. No one knows how many contracts have been written and signed. No one knows the value of all the assets. No one knows …………………….
What we do know. Harlequin are insolvent. Ameless is desperate so too now is Fatshit.
Purchasers are finding making mortgage payments difficult.
Pension funds have been decimated.
Ameless continues to fly first class.
The beauty about BFP is anyone can make a comment or question the motives of Ames, Harlequin or indeed RL and Mr. Fatchett.
Many interesting but probing questions of RL and Mr. Fatchett have unsurprisingly been removed by RL and Mr. Fatchett on the Harlequininvestors Forum.
There are also no guarantees that the personal details of posters on the Harlequininvestorgroup website are kept confidentially.
We had Mr. Fatchett stating in answering a number of questions put up on this forum the other day that he knew the identity of the author of the questions. Rather odd when it was I who posted that particular post and I remain anonymous.
Possibly what Mr. Fatchett should have said is that he has a very good idea who asked those questions. But he did not. Instead stating as fact that he knew who I was when sadly that is impossible. He may continue to speculate as to my identity.
It is also a rather bizarre notion to believe that the usual suspects, Mr. O’Halloran, Mr. Newman, Wilkins Kennedy, Mrs. Broughton and now Mr. Man are the only people on this planet with an axe to grind with Harlequin.
But Ames and indeed possibly Mr. Fatchett may want everyone to believe that distrust in Ames and Harlequin is being generated by those individuals named above.
We had Mr. Fatchett stating previously that he would need the mandate of 75% + of purchasers before proceeding with the trust.Yet with less then 24% of purchasers signing up to the trust Mr. Fatchett decided to proceed anyway.
Now if that appeared on the RL forum, I guess it would have been removed very shortly afterwards. Remember there is only one option, that being Mr. Fatchett’s option. Those who have asked probing questions of Mr. Fatchett before deciding on the trust have faced threats of legal action. Guardian SIPP springs to mind.
Mr. Ames and Mr. Fatchett fully understand that many many people with an interest in Harlequin follow events on BFP. These include Harlequin Staff, the Ames family, RL, Garreth Fatchett, Purchasers and many others with an interest in Harlequin including IP’s and the UK authorities.
So BFP is a logical, safe and secure conduit for individuals to raise issues and probe the reasoning behind events as they unfold pertaining to Harlequin and RL.
more questions….never any answers…Ames is laughing at you all
December 12, 2013 at 9:05 pm
fatshit is about etc etc
A lot of serious questions there….I am not anvestor but watching this sorry saga go from bad to disaster.
Here are a couple more questions that never seem to get any answer:
What about the monies taken for Brazil, DR and other locations, where the land is not even owned or planning permission obtained by DA/HP
Why is it the only thing that is being persued is BBay and the only thing being offered is the bits of BBay that cant be sold….how do you sell footpaths etc to recoup your investment…would you buy the assets offered for the trust if you had £400 million?
Why has HP/DA not been forced to hand over acounts/documents or charged with criminal offences for not providing as running a company with no accounts is illegal, especislyy on that had £400 million pass through its hands
A single question direct to Gareth Fachett…..why do you seem to be pandering to look after investers when it does seem obvious that you are assisting Dave Ames…Investors either want their money back (which just is not going to happen….without legal action against people that still have the funds to pay the court awarded payouts, or see Dave Ames and his crew locked up (or even both)Gareth you need to restore faith that you are serious about investors
answers please
not Erica, not The Irish Builder, infact a mere passer by who wonders how a frqud of this size cant be sorted quickly
Garreth Fatchett will proceed with the trust, no need for due diligence because as we all know the trust would fall over on this alone. Even Fatchett can see this, So he gets the £200, great.
Purchasers are giving up their rights to sue Dave Ames and his companies and Dave Ames will come after purchasers who cannot complete on their properties.
Any purchaser who believes that Dave Ames will not come after them for the interest payments Harlequin have paid on their behalf must be mad and deluded.
Fatchett is setting many purchasers up for a very hard fall.
With thousands of investors about to loose most if not all of their investments we have Paul Walton supporting RL and Mr. Fatchett over on the RL site. Why does Garreth Fatchett not allow purchasers seek independent legal advice on his trust option if they so wish. Another few weeks will make no difference at this stage to the overall financial position of Harlequin. Why is RL most adamant at pushing the process through as quickly as possible now. It is now the Christmas period, why the sudden rush.
Can investors not seek a second opinion? Mr. Walton claims that a QC is happy with the trust so purchasers should be, well why not allow purchasers obtan a second opinion???
Many are now reconsidering the advice as being offered by RL and Garreth Fatchett. Mr. Fatchett stated that he would not go ahead with the trust until he had received a mandate to do so. RL HAVE NOT yet received such a mandate. Purchasers are correct to ask for a refund.
Mr. Fatchett has proceeded to cash cheques ahead of a mandate ahead of a crucial meeting with Ames tomorrow and ahead of any sight of the now 1800 pink slips Harlequin have.
Mr. Fatchett has already called the meeting tomorrow by stating their will not be a problem.
Has Mr. Fatchett called the due diligence also? Probably. He will most likely state the past is the past.
Where the hell is the SFO in this. Mr. Facthett is now acting like Ames, changing the gambit and making it up as he goes along.
feel free to correct me but as i understand it the vast majority of money that HP/HMSSE had was from investors deposits and thus any interest loan repayments were in fact funded by past and present investor deposits. certainly until BB/Blu was active there was no other major income stream??? pls feel free to remove correct this post if this is wrong.. would be interesting to know how many of the current/past harlequin agents/ifa’s/ FS companies etc actually invested themselves and to what degree.. if they thought it was so fantastic an opportunity then presumably they invested all of their pension pots/available income/profit into this venture. ??? Or maybe they earned the commissions but decided that personally it was not for them ???. certainly this is somethings that RL/FCA/FSCS etc should consider. if this was such an amazing opportunity which regulated advisers recommended albeit probably under non advised sale process then surely those advisers would have invested their life savings/ whole pension pot/ all the equity in their homes/ all the cash in the bank– just as they may have advised their clients to do so.
If any investor thinks that this masquerade will end in their favor
they are up a creek without a paddle. If this were a game of poker
there is no option but to call the bluff. Everyone needs to put their
card on the table. Know when it is time to fold.
Anon – 11:38 Absolutely sardonic comment (wish I knew a stronger
adjective). Any and everyone involved with Harlequin is a loser (and
I include myself)……………..
Its about time the SFO called a halt to this madness. GF is fully aware that the SFO are about to move on Harlequin hence the reason he is so anxious to get the £ 200 in.
GF knows full well that any independent solicitor would caution purchasers from moving in such an expeditious manner.
I would urge purchasers to first write to RL and ask GF, who gave him the mandate to proceed with the trust ahead of obtaining a mandate and to request a full reimbursement of monies paid. I would urge all purchasers to formally ask GF why he continues to dissuade purchasers from obtaining a second independent legal opinion.
We will never know whether Ames and his 1800 pink slip purchasers will have contributed to the trust. GF is confident all will be well as a result of tomorrows meeting with Ames. So GF will tell us tomorrow evening that the meeting went very well and all is still on track. GF has totally lost my trust and I know I am not alone.
Once you have requested this information and a refund of your monies and if you are not satisfied with your answer from RL or GF then you should proceed with making a formal complaint to the SRA on the conduct of RL and GF in the manner in which they have continued to move the goal posts in relation to the trust.
I would urge purchasers who have felt threatened and intimidated by GF and RL to report this immediately to the SRA and the authorities including the SFO. RL and GF have made threats openly against anyone they see as being in anyway negative towards the trust.
It is GF and RL who have misled purchasers on the mandate for the trust. It is GF and RL who have announced that the trust is to proceed ahead of any due diligence. It is GF and RL who misled purchasers on the issue of Stat Demands.
More money lost. Shame on you GF. Shame on you for giving so much false hope to purchasers.
So now it looks like I paid the £240 for nothing . I BELIVED i WOULD GET WHAT WAS PROMISED . Seems you cant trust anyone involved with this barsteward.
Now what do I do , asked yesterday for a refund was told NO
Poor Crazy woman.
BROUGHTON: I now sleep for about 3 hours a night. The quality of life, we don’t
Have a life now. I run the investor forum and try and help as many people as I
Possibly can. I’m so scared that anybody does anything silly because there’s an awful
Lot of people out there who are in a really vulnerable position, who are really upset
And don’t know what to do. And until Harlequin turn round and publicly say this is
What we’re doing, this is where we all stand, people aren’t going to sleep, are they?
How did you afford Croziers legal fees Erica? Silly me, forgot the Irish builders handouts. Such a sick ironic twist, supporting a know fraudster for your own personal gain.
The bit of land you like bragging about, Cyprus I believe? How did you pay for that? There I go again, silly me forgot the Irish builders handouts.
So… the Trust is established, Ames is safe from prosecution, HP press investors for completion – and repossess those units where investors cannot complete. The repossessed units are sold via fractional ownership – which enables more units to be finished, completions demanded and then snatched back if the investors cannot complete and… rinse and repeat! The investors never get any cash back as the resorts never make a profit, so are always unable to complete.
As Long Firm scams go it is a corker
Last night the Irish builder thief and his follower, were busy – the Trust being set up really buggers up his ploy.
BB actually you are wrong, the waiver document will stop what you are implying.
I have it on good authority the Trust has the backing of all the right people, so it will happen. Just need to square up a couple of points.
Gullible investors were fooled once and have been fooled again. Where are the authorities to offer protection to these people from themselves, as well as from the crooks who just keep on going?
Knight shows how Masons secretly control every aspect of British society. There are 500,000 Masons in England. Lodges are associated with every local government, police, bank, military unit, hospital, university, church, court and of course Westminster. What passes for politics is basically members of the same Lodge contending for office to decide how to enact the Masonic agenda. Knight documents how Masons give each other preferment in hiring, promotion and business. Non-Masons are continually hassled. It is no understatement to say that the UK is a Masonic tyranny.
The Irish builder allegedly misappropriated US$13m. Ames took in US$700m and there is very little to show for it. Don’t you think the latter is more relevant and the former is not worth dragging out as a deflection all the time?
Without the balancing pink forms, there will be no trust. RL know this and have always said they would refund. Seems entirely fair to me.
‘Employers, if they are Freemasons or not, can be given private information about a man who has made himself an enemy of Masonry. At worst he will be dismissed (if the information is true) or consistently passed over for promotion.’
‘Most people, fighters or not, are beaten in the end, though. It’s . . . you see, I … you finish up not knowing who you can trust. You can get no help because your story sounds so paranoid that you are thought a crank, one of those nuts who think the whole world is a conspiracy against them. It is a strange phenomenon. By setting up a situation that most people will think of as fantasy, these people can poison every part of a person’s life. If they give in they go under. If they don’t give in It’s only putting off the day because if they fight, so much unhappiness will be brought to the people around them that there will likely come a time when even their families turn against them out of desperation. When that happens and they are without friends wherever they look, they become easy meat. The newspapers will not touch them’.
‘There is no defence against an evil which only the victims and the perpetrators know exists.’
@The fourth part of a circle – the square
Unless of course you wanted to spread nasty RL propaganda…… like that busybody Bob the Banker W4nker Laddel
More coincidence?
Gareth Fatchett
Using one of the simpler Masonic codes A=1 B = 2
Gareth
7+1+19+5+21+8 = 34 (add each individual number) 3×4 = 12 1=2 =3
Farchett
6+1+21+3+8+5=21+21 = 86 8×6 = 48 4=8 = 12 1=2 = 3
33 again…………..
The reason the Irish builder is getting dragged into it, is because he want’s to stop the trust as this would disadvantage him.
see that someone is poorly so the meeting to resolve the 1800 missing fees isnt happening ……………….nothing trivial I hope !!!
What a nasty thing to say, mind you we expect it from you the likes of you – people in glass houses……
Lets be clear. The Irish builder is desperate for the Trust to fail – sorry to disappoint but it won’t.
T.S When its your money you can talk till then go forth and multiply !
I PAID MY TRUST FEES AND EXPECT THAT IT FOR SURE IS SERIOUS AND NOT ANOTHER DELAYING TACTIC FROM YOUR MASTER
If a slave is unwilling to go with his new master, he is whipped, or locked up in jail, until he consents to go, and promises not to run away during the year.
Stephen Knight was poisoned and died just two years after publishing “The Brotherhood.” What he said about British society no doubt applies to the whole world: Culture and politics are a charade quietly controlled by these disciples of Lucifer. In other words, mankind is in the thrall of a Satanic cult. Millions are complicit in their own enslavement.
It would not surprise me in the slightest.
so all of the legal people are masons? a brief look and i have found 25 plus convicted,jailed and or struck of,not much protection there then
The would have been sacrificed for senior Masons
Click to access Harlequin.pdf
What a cad.
You just don’t do that to someone who can make like very difficult for you; unless you have a God complex or some real clout.
Gareth’s piles were playing him up.
I fully expect more long winded rubbish from the Irish builder and his fat mistress over the weekend, in a rather futile attempt to stop the Trust.
So, predictable, but nonetheless entertaining.
I bet it was a secret emergency lodge meeting……….
Erica Broughton has done a deal with Ames, spill the beans on O’ Halloran for a no cash completion.
TS glad to see Ames has allowed one of his pet poodles out to play.😜
Sorry to hear that your Lord and Master is unwell. Lets all hope he makes a slow and painful recovery 😂
Jeez all the travel last week between the Caribbean and the Middle East must have been exhausting, not helped by the deadlines imposed on him by his own staff at Buccama Bay and Uncle Ralph and co. And carrying all that cash to Dubai must have been nerve racking. 😫
I doubt the Irish builder gives a flying f*** about the trust. 💤
Look TS the trust is going ahead. Fatchett will assure this will happen. No need for any due diligence, after all the cost of such would only eat into his margins. He got his mandate 20%. Throw in all those forged Pink Slips Davey boy has and wow you got a mandate of 40%.
You probably gave Davey Boy a few pink slips of your own.
The trust will go ahead because Fatchett is as bent as Ames and his mob. But alas for Davey Boy the finance will always allude him. Fatchett says he has seen the finance and we have seen these little 🐷🐷🐷fly.
And this time next year we will have increasing numbers of investors moaning that nothing has happened.
As you know the 🕚 is ticking for Davey Boy. Carol keeps looking out the window waiting for the 🚓to arrive.
Any day now Davey Boy any day now.
TS may I take the opportunity to wish you and the Ames family the most miserable Christmas imaginable and hope the New Year brings you and yours and the Ames family a whole heap of bad luck, hurt and pain.
You sow what you reap my friend. Just think of the misery Ames has heaped on thousands of investors this Christmas.
So TS why don’t you go do one. ☺ 😆
Well, you know what they say; cash is King and that’s why he needed to take a little detour to his banks accounts in Dubai.
Tis the time to be jolly lots of ‘presents’ to drop off to make this whole thing work.
You are a nasty individual – it’s Christmas 😉 Are you not getting a special present from Dave?
Such a shame you being a charmer an all…..
The Irish are all supposed to me charming!
The Trust will happen because Ames needs it to.
Fatchett doesn’t need it to work, he has over 2000 redress claims.
Pressure on Ames.
What is not going to happen is investors being shafted to save a fat Irish builder. That’s out of the question.
S&F
Ha ha Fatty Browton did a deal with Ames for all the dirt on Paddy. Thats a scream. Ames already won his case and sold all Paddys assets so why he need the dirt on him.
Paddy pays Fatty for all the dirt on Ames then Ames pays Fatty for all the dirt on Paddy. Paddy is shagging Fatty. Fatty is shagging Fatchet. Fatchet is shagging Ames. And Ames has shagged EVERYONE ha ha.
No correction Fatty Browton did a deal with Ames and Fatchet for all the inside info on Crozer Lemons claim against Ames. Fatty Browton wants to help Ames and Fatchet fuck Crozer Lemon case up.
Fatty Browton has the tapes ha ha. And the PI and the Bird Table.
The fourth part of a circle _ a square.
You appear to have no issue with investors being shafted to save the Ames family. Which is what has happened. Haircuts and all.
Is saving a conman from Basildon in Essex not out of the question. ?
Bro. Fatchett,will give the Trust his best shot, that’s the UGLE instruction. However, the £100k or so he may earn is peanuts for the bigger prize of redress claims. This is his reward.
In many way it would be better for him if the Trust were to fail.
Regardless he is obligated to help a Brother in distress.
So mote it be
If he is a brother it’s fine.
The committee feels that the link between Cosa Nostra and [Italian] institutions is mostly through the ‘Massoneria’ [freemasonry]… The fundamental terrain on which the link between Cosa Nostra with public officials and private professions was created and reinforced is the Massoneria. The Massoneria bond serves to keep the relationship continuous and organic. The admission of members of Cosa Nostra, even at high levels, in Massoneria is not an occasional or episodical one, but a strategic choice… the Massoneria associations offer the mafia a formidable instrument to extend their own power, to obtain favours and privileges in every field; both for the conclusion of big business and “fixing trials”, as many collaborators with justice have revealed”. (Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry into the phenomenon of mafia and other criminal associations, Report on relations between mafia and politics, p.59, Rome, 1993; quoted in Umberto Santini, “Law Enforcement in Italy and Europe against mafia and organised crime”, p13)
No smoke without fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due
Did the freezing order ever get paid out? or have they settled on the QT?
This one?
Don’t you think it’s odd that Ames sold his property on the Golden Mile to Richard Ingham and now half the cash is missing?
I cannot believe that nobody is kicking up a shit stink about it!
I hear Ingham considers it’s a refund but surely it’s our, the investors cash?
No way! any proof of that?
This needs further investigation, bet that tw@t is a Mason too
Ingham is a mason – he was stood chatting with Paul Walton and Gareth Fatchett most of the day – plus Ingham has known Ames longer than anybody else, they first met in Dubai
Was that in Warrington?- because I seen Walton with some big guy eating lunch? They looked like they know each other for a while – joking away that seems inappropriate to me, given the circumstances.
If there is an “investor” with legal status in Barbados now is the
time to POUNCE….You would be so far ahead of the the game….
Why is this whole thing taking so long to end…..Ames sold the investors some property and has not delivered any of it…to the tune of £400 million theft fraud call it what you like it just gotta be illegal and crooked…throw in most of the property was on land he did not own
Where are the SFO….how much does a scam need to steal before someone goes to jail
Think I might set up a property company sell a load and take lots of dosh as deposit and then say ahh its not me , you see you signed into a deal with offshore corrupt government country property and half your dosh went to advisers and I got the other half now fuck off and stop asking for a refund, I dont have time for this as I have a mistress to look after as well as the wife and in the new year I will need to go visit my son in jail, so dont really have any time for troublesome investors
No smoke – yes that was Richard Ingham you saw with Paul Walton – it’s very odd that Ames Walton Ingham and Fatchett. Get along – I would have thought they wouldn’t have had a lot in common – makes me think there’s something going on. Especially with Ingham purchasing Ames Dubai property!
RL is a another scam….lets see ok if I sue the sipp providers and the ifa, they have lots of money, so I get paid….just need a list of the investors who were misold, ow how can I get this…..brainwave
Do a deal with Dave ames….save his ares from prison and I get the list sue the ifa/sipps and bingo half the investors get their money back, I make loads (maybe even enough to buy a place in SVG) DA gets let off (and he is a masonic brother) and half the investors think I am god
….and the half of the investors who get nothing…..I dont care coz I rich and unlike DA mine cash is legal(ish)
crooks everwhere
Conspiracy theories everywhere !!! First its the masons a group of middle aged golfers with a penchant for G+T, now its the gang of three ,Fatchett , Walton and Ingham daring to laugh over lunch at a meeting ,
The Shipleys £165k is the scandal of the week
Whats up with the 400million ???.
Where are the SFO?
What is happening with the trust?
Will the resorts ever be built ?
Will finance be avaliable if I join the trust?
When does Harlequin get the money from the Irish case?
Will I get any money back if this goes under?
I am on here as well as the R.L site and there is never a straight answer from anyone just a lot of hot air.
Waltons Brother – another Mason – worked overseas 30 years.
Links to the Maktoum family and the Jumeirah Group , worked in Asia – see a pattern? Ames would have loved meeting the rulers of Dubia – imagine him.
Ames worked in Dubai, so did Ingham, Walton’s brother worked in the same location as Ames twice. He insures the Harlequin empire.
Freemasonry is illegal in Dubai, clearly that does not stop the tentacles of corruption spreading.
Paul Walton admitted to being a mason for over 30 years, Fatchett wears a Masonic tie to meetings.
Undeniable EVIDENCE Freemasons are behind this.
Check out this
http://www.thegladstonegroup.org.uk/liverpool-masons/
Group Treasurer Masonic Group – near Waltons home town.
The connection to the ruler of UAE
http://www.nexusadvice.com/en/OurTeam/newsdetail.aspx?News_ID=82&PriMenuID=5&CatID=5&mnu=Cat
Powerful bunch.
And where did Fatchett go on ‘Holiday’ YES DUBAI……could it have been to meet Walton / Ames/ and the Maktuom family?
Are they the real investors?
Why did Sean Ghent go to Dubai with his missus not so long ago? And why did he plaster it all over his Facebook page?
Why would you be looking at Ghent?
This guy worked at head of security and is a Mason
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/cliff-jones-cpo-ppo-cp-team-medic/2a/513/143
One thing has been really bugging me and I can’t shake it off. It’s about agents, in particular TaylorMade ( in Administration) It does not add up to me.
At their peak they made a £227k loss – HOW? Where did the money go? I wonder if its somehow advantageous to close the company down by way of insolvency to hide something more sinister?
We should write to the IP and MP’s to get this looked at in more detail, something just does not add up no pun intended.
Something is not right here.
Ownership
500,000 preference shares were issued during the year. Preference shareholders should get dividends before the ordinary shareholders – its states @ 4% of the nominal value of each share.
Results
The company made a loss of £227k. £186k of this was due to 2 “one off” transactions – a write off of an intercompany balances & a provision for a contract where the supplier went into administration. Basically this is saying, yes, we made a loss, but there were reasons for the scale of the loss – which wouldn’t happen in a usual year. However, there I still c£40k of losses that are not accounted for by these 2 transactions.
The reserves of the company have reduced – as would be expected with the losses, however, the reserves reduced by c£377k meaning a further £150k has been taken from the company – most likely via dividends.
This needs looking at.
Easy answers.
Off shore, backhanders.
The SFO, HMSE and authorities should look at them………Once a company is in ”administration” then it’s rare ”people” bother looking at a defunked company – why would you ? Nothing left (technically)……. in this case they have took all the cash out & hidden it.
AKA know as doing an Ames.
Ingham must have paid Ames the £165,000 in cash why don’t Shipleys ask him for it? It’s purchasers cash. Thick as thieves all of them totally.
I know that law firms are in on this with Ames and helping him, this Masonic stuff defo something going on, some of it you can’t dispute.
I know TM and RL are working with Ames and this is just a way of getting the Government to pay the refunds from the FSCS claims whilst Ames totally keeps all purchasers money.
I further know he will do a sort of like split with Crozier and RL where investors will get very little and them get it all. Corney is a Mason 100% so is Fatchett.
Shipleys could be in on this too because they have done nothing,its been 6 months and they let Ames get off with £165,000, possibly a Masonic IP firm who Ames phoned or one of the other creeps that is involved in this international cover up.
They just try to blame the Irish builder but he was set up by Ames, you know all judges well most are Masons and that’s how Ames got the verdict by telling the judge to find him guilty when he was not guilty, just trying to expose Ames as a conman.
Irrelevant of anything on here but reading this blog for months I have
learned (learnt?) a treasure trove of Elizabethan participles – past and
present. @Hthym…..cTM. Should not it have been “taken all the cash
and hidden it” ?
Ingham didn’t pay cash to Ames for his property he paid a reduced asking price and paid £165k into the Caymen Islands
So Ames just takes cash from any ATM whilst saying he is skint, dead clever no tax nothing……tick tock
Look more proof
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-2353687/Unholy-See-iniquity-Vatican-Bank.html
Who can purchasers trust?
I understand that certain Legal Eagles involved in this con have some interesting sexual proclivities.
And I don’t mean just the homosexual ones.
Dirty Washing – don’t tell me that Gareth has got a fattish and has been tea bagging that fat ugly bitch Steph Broughton?
Touche’ fattish for fetish; but what the heck does tea bagging mean?
Surely not – Steph Broughton is that fat she beeps when reversing even Gareth has some standards!
Tea bagging=shagging
No – Teabagging is making a strong brew with Fussells Milk and 2 lumps. A last resort sexual practice whereby the man lowers his pods into the lady’s mouth!
Classy from the Harlequin trolls again! Abusing a family whose only crime was to ask for a refund they were entitled to.
@Take Ames And Fire
You fool, you believe that! lol
She had her money back plus more, just to shut her up. The woman is sick and only lives to see Harlequin fail.
Don’t fall for that old yarn she spins. She is not short of money.
Maybe she also does very nicely from the Irish builder, a copy of her email accounts would be truly amazing – this would gives a disturbing insight into the state of her mind and the games that she may play…………………….
@Gulliable fools- I’ve never met the lady or her family in my life but I’ve followed BFP in the last year and the abuse she has received from the Harlequin trolls like yourself has been completely vile. From where I’m standing the Harlequin trolls are the sick ones, not her. Oh, and if Harlequin fails it will be because of greed and excess from Ames and his family, not a housewife from Wigan or an Irish builder who was employed with no contract.
You don’t want to meet her especially the husband who is prone to threatening to F****king Kill Ames at investor meetings; he had to be restrained – such common Northern working class behavior. Some people such ruffians.
Common as muck the whole family, doubtful if they have a qualification between them all.
Anon 12:42pm Are you talking about the Ames family there ?
Try adding lying, cheating scum.
Katherine are you always such a snobbish condescending bitch?
Poor show HP trolls.
@Katherine-Investors are frustrated. Ames has siphoned off their hard earned cash, tensions run high in these cases. If I were to go around ripping people off I would expect a threat or two to come my way. An eye for an eye.
If Ames had done this to me, I would have sued him and destroyed him a very long time ago, as well as those who were complicit. The fact that the victims are the more naive and less affluent and connected is how he is not already living in the street waiting for the cops. So strange that he is still at liberty, perhaps the masonic theory has some merit. This is the most open scam ever seen – when this finally does end, authorities will have a lot to answer to as there have been warnings from various sources for 8 years now that this was a scam, and thousands of people could and should have been protected from it and kept their pensions.
@re more twattery from the HP trolls
Only relating to that fat bitch with the bad teeth and acute halitosis. She crossed the line, ‘it’ knows when and how.
– Anon 1:25
Truer words were never spoken. Somehow these idiots think that
an innocent ironing lady and a shifty builder have brought down
Harlequin. Bloody idiocy. Ames and only Ames is responsible for
the loss. Period.
There must be some connected people protecting Ames, how else could it be? Masons are 100% well connected in all walks of life. That can not be disputed – all over the World.
Fatchett, Walton, Walton’s brother in Dubai all Masons – seen the proof. Ames, Fatchett, Walton’s bother and Ghent meet up in Dubai. Ingham buy Ames house and all of a sudden £165k missing.
Work it out.
The investors are the Maktoum family – would explain a lot.
@Gulliable fools “a copy of her email accounts would be truly amazing” A copy of Dave Ames & HP email accounts, I am sure would be even more amazing….revealing even…or maybe a copy of the accounts….now they would give a disturbing insight into the state of the fraud and the scale.
The Maktoum family wouldn’t touch Harlequin with a barge pole Gareth knows who the investor is and publically claims he has checked them out on his forum.If any of you we’re investors you would know this!
It’s more than possible the PI thing was set up to drive Erica mad? She said that the Police were involved, she had evidence about being spied on – and would expose who – then NOTHING? WHY?
The Blog was closed down and she dropped off the face of the Earth.
Maybe they conspired against her, lots of police are masons? Is this why she gave up? Against all of them she never stood a chance – now her husband apparently lost his job?
It really could be related.
Maybe that’s why he was in Dubai? Maybe they what to buy the whole thing and kick out ames?
Anyone who spends $100 million on a wedding could buy Harlequin in a whim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_bin_Rashid_Al_Maktoum
This is not the first time this has been mentioned, to these sand jockey’s it’s pocket change.
Will the insolvency practitioner be able to pursue Ingham for the £165k that he paid to Ames straight to the Caymen Island as part of the payment for the property that was sold on the Golden Mile, Dubai? Or is it an issue between Shipley and Ames? It needs sorting as that property was purchased with investors deposits!!!
Purchaser’s deposits, was the only income Ames had, our money, then Ingham sent it to the Cayman Islands, so Ames keeps it away from the IP.
They both should go to jail if it wasn’t for Masonic interference they would be their now.
Shut up Erica, you gotten your money back; crawl back under your stone.
Idiot Anon @10:17 – “You gotten” is about the worst verb form I’ve
read. Why is it that the vicious and continuous attacks on Erica are
written by such illiterate people? If, as they write, you have received
your money back – bully for you. They are losers – not you.
I note that the RL forum is being locked down over the xmas and new year period since it is heavily censored to ensure consistency of message and they say they can’t monitor it consistently over that period. Presumably whoever does the censoring wants christmas off.
Erica should run it.
Then she could put ‘helpful’ pictures of Dave Ames in prison suits, in addition would also ban anyone, because she can……… 😉
I gotten nothing more than a head ache from HP, Broughton got her money back.
PHIG Bob a Freemason.
http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/index.php/masonic-subjects/lodge-histories/442-lodge-progress-no967
Married to Ames’s wife’s sister.
Independant my ARSE.
These are all Know Masons – all working togeather to rob you all…AGAIN
Fatchet
Ames
Ingham
Corney
Walton & Brother
Ladell
Harlequins solicitors
The other lot they call on like the police, FCA, MP’s, this is just one big cover up to protect Ames and steal purchasers money. I think they will all meet up over Christmas in some secret lodge. Totaly corrupt disgusting bunch.
TICK TOCK
The other thing guess who did all the Harlequin IT stuff and never had a problem getting paid, in cash, yeah it was Bob Ladell.
He bugged all the Harlequin phones for Ames. He helped them find out the Harlecon site that’s why Ames never said how he did find it out.
This is why Ames is going to stick with PHIG, blood ties and a mason – plus he will have done some things that are not lawful – he is a IT person so could get into your PC and steal your data.
The crazy people need to take their medication !
http://www.pimlico-flats.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1838&sid=7f0b82abef470d7caf42591e86c24b9f&start=380
Interesting stuff here – and as predicted last week it looks as if the move to Fractional Ownership is designed to ‘release’ the assets of investors unable to complete and then re sell them – trebles all round!!
Nothing new and it’s only half the picture – much more information on the RL site – but you aren’t a member are you ?
Ames agrees the missing pink must pay!!!!!!!!
Pay for your pink 🙂 That includes you Bob the not so busybody
I never imagined that would happen, poke in the eye for PHIG. No payday from subscriptions Bob, No IFA backhanders, Bob the would be banker is actually a w4nker .
That made my Xmas.
This now only leaves the IFA’s, agents to see sense. They are still investors time to do what they do best – think of themselves.
Join the Trust, what sweet irony.
Spoke with a representative from Shipleys today – he confirmed that Ingham did indeed purchase a property from Ames but the missing £165k was never paid ti David Ames in the Caymen Islands it was paid to Daniel Ames in a bank account in Panama!
Does anybody think Ames could dissapear?
All Bob’s nose has been pushed out……
We expect Harlequin to issue a joint announcement with us in the next few days to deal with the RL Pink Forms which are held by Harlequin.
The meeting today was attended by Harlequin & RL at No5 Chambers in London. The meeting reached agreement on a number of key points, which will (subject to them being carried out) see the Investor Trust proceed properly.
1. Harlequin will ask the 1500 or so Pink Form people to agree to lodge their form with RL and to make the requisite fee payment. This will bring everyone into line with each other. It will also remove the question mark over the disbursement funding which currently exists.
2. Subject to a 3rd party law firm agreeing instructions, a second opinion on the proposed trust document will be obtained. This oversight will be funded as part of the wider disbursement funding by RL.
It is hoped that this unity of purpose between RL & Harlequin will by mid January 2014 regularise the position between all investors. RL will continue to offer hardship cases and discounts where multiple properties are held.
RL & Harlequin are the negotiating parties who between them hold the Pink Form mandate. It is therefore right and proper that they are the parties involved in agreeing this approach.
RL appreciates that by bringing in a second opinion on the trust document this provides the requisite level of comfort. RL are happy to agree to this.
RL made it clear that it was not prepared to work with an unauthorised body who are neither insured or qualified to provide the advice and guidance needed to make the Investor Trust proceed. This sentiment was understood by Harlequin and their compromise to positively recommend the Pink Form investors to join the existing RL group is appreciated. It is also a brave move by Harlequin to bridge the gap and ensure that the Investor Trust is given the best possible chance of success. All investors should welcome this.
3. RL will have a standard SIPP mandate to provide to Harlequin / investors so that monies from SIPP accounts can be used. A little more work will need to be done with some SIPP providers to ensure they are supportive and co-operative vis a vis the investor payment requests. This work is on going.
4. RL have been in contact with the Financial Conduct Authority to ensure the regulator is up to date with the matter.
5. RL continue to meet with various groups of agents / IFA’s and investors to explain why the Investor Trust is the only real viable option.
Conclusion
Harlequin and RL have made the necessary compromises to move matters forward. The position changes by both Harlequin / RL have at times been difficult. However, this has been done for the greater good. It is in that spirit that we urge everyone who has not yet joined the Pink Form process with RL to do so. Harlequin are going to support this approach. Not just a tacit support, but a positive support to get the mandate for the Investor Trust in place and ready to implement the security arrangement.
As a final word of caution, RL is now almost entirely reliant on Harlequin carrying this agreement out. To an extent, RL are also reliant on the goodwill of PHIG / agents / IFA’s & SIPPs. This goodwill may not be willingly given to RL by some. However, if not to RL, to investors, to whom all the above parties owe their goodwill.
Thank you for your continuing support.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Can Shipleys make Dan Ames pay that money back or will they chase Ingham? it’s purchasers cash and totally wrong. IT MUST BE SORTED OUT
Pervy Bob will be absolutely livid, he been out maneuvered by Ames, not that he was never actually taken seriously – just a silly old busybody 😉
The Masonic deal to support each other strengthens.
We bring our fraternal salutations to all users of this site and wish you well.
RL site down due to skiing trip and masonic commitments……
It was good to meet our fraternal brethren today albeit not under UGLE conditions.
Happy to meet………
Bob Black Ball
This is for the good of Freemasonry and the Brotherhood.
The Masonic process has been engaged.
As a peripheral player in this mess known as Harlequin I can honestly say
that I would NEVER trust a law firm (RL) that identifies itself as “Bob’s
sore nose”. What sort of children do they have working there?
Anonymous 10:49
RL are a bit piece player in the masonic ritual being played out in front of your eyes.
They are well supported, well connected and well funded.
They are a front.
The UGLE need a location to send all their American Freemasons to, Buccement Bay will be idea once modifications are made.
Trader Vic’s is going to be a Masonic Lodge.
It’s going to be called The Visionary lodge. or The lodge of (Tracy) Soloman
So Bob, being related to Dave Ames, didn’t help you in the end 😉
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Latest on the grape vine is that the UK authorities are closing down on Dan Ames. Has anyone else been asked to send details of their purchase location? I can’t and Ive been told by police Dan Ames UK company was over selling. He has the Ames funds and is sitting on a multi million pound property with no mortgage at only 35! I was told UK authorities are going after Dan Ames now and Barbados authorities are going to arrest David Ames for not complying with Exchange control regulations on Merricks or H. Seems Dan is over selling in the UK and Dave isn’t declaring the money or sales in the Caribbean! What about their swiss accounts?
John – I would say that is not good news for Campion.
Good it’s about time they did, that is assuming it’d even gotten a grain of truth in it………..
I must admit; this talk about Masonic conspiracy worries me. Ames has basically cocked up £400 million of other people’s money, and NOTHING has happened to him or his family. They all live in houses worth millions, taken from investors.
Could someone in very simple terms explain to me how?
If I had stolen a Xmas turkey from Tesco worth £ 40, I would get nicked?
QT – The Masonic crap is a “red herring”
At least she will have a happy Christmas, the gobby cow finally been shut up – just about the freeking money not investors.
I been refunded about 2 months ago for information.
Let’s hope your information was better than your English………
English is crap info gud, she teld me
Some of you -especially the Islanders- might want to pop over to the
Campion thread on BFP 22 Nov. It is getting interesting.
CHIKUNQUANYA
Better to have us onside than not….
http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/fscs-writes-to-harlequin-promoter-tailormade-s-clients/a724945
Is the trust fee refundable ?????
Ames says yes
Fatchett says no
obviously if it doesn’t proceed I know its payable if it goes ahead
RL is not a charity!
Ames will tell you whatever you want to hear.
RL will put the trust document together for free. The security and due diligence element will need to be paid for.
Only the truly stupid would believe they get something for nothing … erm…
Bob Liddel is next, he has gone one degree too far west.
So mote it be.
Mr Ladell is being observed at the moment. If he continues to disrupt we will take the appropriate action to seek a solution.
O Lord, my God, is there no help for the widow’s son?
RL is saying that they have seen a letter of intent to purchase HD
and that the purchaser has completed DUE DILIGENCE on HD.
Something doesn’t sit right if that is the case because NO audited
books exist. In fact NO BOOKS exist. There are dozens of court
cases languishing in the Islands. In addition several hundred investors
have not responded to RL. As Alice said it just gets curiouser and
curiouser…….
if after DD the purchase of a company goes ahead any cases found proven against that company will be in the lap of any new directors .thats if these cases were uncovered at the DD stage,if not the new company will have to fight the case and if it looses seek redress from the former directors.If DD is showing missing information it wont stop a deal but what do you offer for a company with no books that would show any debt?? ,I can only thing that in such a scenario the selling price would be very low.but who can imagine the above happening??
I think the fat Irishman is panicking, it’s that simple. Expect more of his ravings soon.
The only ones panicking my friend are the Ames family and some senior members of Harlequin. 😜See young Matt has his day in Court on the 6th of Jan. Carol must be beside herself ha ha ha. Stupid old cow. Lol.
Mean while Dave Ames is having a lovely Christmas holiday – some freezing order that must be costing £7-10k his usual destination – Not SVG for sure.
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