Devout Muslim terrorist attack on Canadian Parliament – is Barbados as vulnerable?

Barbados Parliament

by Nevermind Kurt

by Nevermind Kurt

Early Wednesday morning a Canadian devout Muslim named Michael Zehaf-Bibeau murdered an unarmed soldier standing guard at the war memorial in Canada’s capital city of Ottawa. Zehaf-Bibeau then stormed Parliament with a firearm where thirty or forty shots were fired between the terrorist and security personnel. The Sergeant at Arms, an older gentleman in a largely ceremonial position, shot and killed the Muslim terrorist with a pistol.

Initial news reports claimed that the terrorist was a ‘recent convert’, but it is now emerging that Zehaf-Bibeau had been a Muslim for years and may also hold Libyan citizenship. Police say his father is an immigrant to Canada from Libya, who returned to his native country in 2011 to wage Jihad war.

You can clearly hear the terrorist shouting “Allah Akbar” in a video made during the shooting inside Parliament.

The attack came only two days after a Jihad attack in Quebec where another devout Muslim ran down two Canadian soldiers in a shopping mall parking lot. One soldier died in that attack and the Muslim terrorist was shot to death after crashing his car and coming at police with a knife.

Barbados not immune to Sudden Jihad Syndrome

As we have learned in Barbados, what some call ‘radicalisation’ of Muslim youth is actually nothing more than Muslim teachers accurately instructing children in what the Islamic Koran and Haddiths state. In 2010, a 14 year old girl student from the Barbados Al-Falah Muslim School naively revealed to Barbados Free Press the teaching of values and standards that are totally at odds with our society, saying ““Beheading, chopping off your hands, severe beatings are Islamic rules, nothing wrong in it.” The girl also stated that it was compulsory for girls to wear the Hijab to prevent rape – which is another way of saying what is often true in the Muslim world, that a woman not wearing ‘proper’ clothing is fair game for rape. (2010 article here)

Those values are at odds with our society, but they are also exactly what the Koran states – just as the 14 year old student claimed.

When Christian youths ‘radicalise’, they stop drinking alcohol, pray a whole lot and tend to bore their classmates to death with bible verses. When Muslim youths ‘radicalize’, the result is quite different – and is often accompanied by eruptions of hate and violence from the most intolerant religion in the world.

From what we’ve seen lately, it is impossible to predict which Muslims are likely to explode in Jihad violence. Although most ordinary Muslims probably want to just live their lives, and look after their families, there is no denying that Islamic religion, ideology and law contains the dark seeds of terrorism and Islamic supremacy that all too often grow into murder and violence.

 There is something very wrong with Islam.

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67 responses to “Devout Muslim terrorist attack on Canadian Parliament – is Barbados as vulnerable?

  1. Mr Coco

    Of course your vulnerable. The real question is: will anybody shed tear if a welfare parasite muslim with a case of sudden jihadi syndrome kills off a few blood sucking corrupt lefttard politicians ?

  2. fred

    More people like the author of this piece are finally waking up to the fact that islam is incompatible with modern society by its very nature and teachings. Its not islamophobia, its islamorealism. Barbadians have enough on their plates without having to worry about jihadis committing mayhem on the island in sympathy with their islamic brethren around the world.

  3. MoneyBrain

    Hopefully the idiot politicians in Canada and elsewhere will understand that these “converts” who know nothing about the Quran, should be permitted to go to fight for ISIS and not be stopped. With any luck these fools will die in Iraq/ Syria BUT certainly if they return to Canada should be charged with treason or some such crime against the Nation. Both “converts” that murdered Soldiers in cold blood this week in Canada wanted to be in the ME, so the authorities are responsible for the murders as they failed to charge them with a crime or let them go to the ME.

    Politicians are not very clever and never appreciate how humans really think in their demented way.

  4. Earnest

    @ MoneyBrain – the converts and their violent islamic colleagues know enough about the Quran to quote it extensively in support of the mayhem they commit.

  5. MoneyBrain

    @Earnest
    Most of the Nth Am born “converts” know little BUT the brief Jihadist case. These are sick puppies that are deviants in society searching for “solutions” to failure. They would turn to any “cause”.

  6. Green Monkey

    After I learned about the cold war era plans for Operation Northwoods and the Operation Gladio false flag attacks staged by undercover groups (which pretended to be communists or leftists radicals but were all the time secretly being supplied and run by NATO along with the CIA and MI6 and other European intelligence and security agencies), I’m always suspicious as to who the true instigator of these types of attacks might be. These attacks don’t seem to end up doing the alleged terrorists’ movement much good if any at all, but they do seem to conveniently happen when Western governments are looking to justify to their citizens the need to send more soldiers to fight wars in far away, oil rich countries, depose uncompliant dictatorships, clampdown on traditional freedoms and broaden spying operations against their own citizens.

    Canadian Terror Wave: a Modern-Day Gladio
    by Tony Cartalucci

    It was warned last month after security agencies staged scares in both the US and Australia, that suspects under investigation, being walked through planned terrorist attacks by Western security agencies as part of “sting operations” would inevitably be switched to live terrorist attacks.

    In mid-September A Rochester man, Mufid A. Elfgeeh, was accused by the FBI of attempting to provide material support to ISIS (undercover FBI agents), attempting to kill US soldiers, and possession of firearms and silencers (provided to him by the FBI). The FBI’s own official press release stated (emphasis added):

    According to court records, Elfgeeh attempted to provide material support to ISIS in the form of personnel, namely three individuals, two of whom were cooperating with the FBI. Elfgeeh attempted to assist all three individuals in traveling to Syria to join and fight on behalf of ISIS. Elfgeeh also plotted to shoot and kill members of the United States military who had returned from Iraq. As part of the plan to kill soldiers, Elfgeeh purchased two handguns equipped with firearm silencers and ammunition from a confidential source. The handguns were made inoperable by the FBI before the confidential source gave them to Elfgeeh.

    It was warned that only an inoperable firearm stood between Elfgeeh’s arrest and his successful execution of deadly plans hatched by him and his undercover FBI handlers. This script, written by the FBI to entrap Elfgeeh, would be followed almost to the letter in live attacks subsequently carried out in Canada resulting in the death of two Canadian soldiers. Conveniently, both suspects are now dead and little chance remains of ascertaining the truth of who they were in contact with and how they carried out their deadly attacks.

    With both suspects having been on both US and Canadian watch lists – it is very likely undercover agents were involved in either one or both cases. While many possibilities exist, Western security agencies should be among the first suspects considered as potential collaborators.

    snip

    In addition to Operation Northwoods, the public must also consider NATO’s Operation Gladio, and its larger “stay behind” networks established after World War II across Europe and at the center of multiple grisly assassinations, mass shootings, and terrorist bombings designed to demonize the Soviet Union as well as criminalize and crush support for left-leaning political parties growing in popularity in Western Europe. It would be determined that NATO’s own covert militant groups were killing innocent Western Europeans in order to effect a “strategy of tension” used to instill fear, obedience, and control over Western populations.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/canadian-terror-wave-a-modern-day-gladio/5409455

  7. Anonymous

    @greenmonkey is there ever a case where 1+1 = 2?

  8. Anonymous

    @greenmonkey
    “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

  9. Green Monkey

    @greenmonkey
    “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

    The third way is to assume that government intelligence agencies, even in democracies, don’t engage in illegal psy-ops and organizing false flag type events to manipulate public opinion. There is nothing like the belief that a country has come under an unjustified and unprovoked attack by a fanatical enemy to get its citizens angry and worked up to support a war against the designated enemy and/or to be willing to give up their established civil rights so the government can “keep them safe” from the fanatical terrorists.

    Regarding the cold war false flag terror attacks carried out in Europe by the Operation Gladio operatives, one of the terrorists who was finally caught, tried and jailed was the Italian Vincenzo Vinciguerra:

    “During his trial, Vincenzo Vinciguerra revealed that, in addition to discrediting left wing political groups, there had been a second, even darker aim behind the bombings, namely to inculcate a climate of fear among the general populace. This was known as the ‘strategy of tension’ which was intended to generate a pervasive sense of fear which would encourage the population to appeal to the state for protection.

    Vincenzo Vinciguerra claimed during his trial:

    ‘You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public to turn to the State to ask for greater security.’

    In a BBC documentary Gladio, he described the aim as to ‘destabilise in order to stabilise’… ‘To create tension within the country to promote conservative, reactionary social and political tendencies.’

    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Operation_Gladio

  10. Green Monkey

    @greenmonkey is there ever a case where 1+1 = 2?

    Indeed it seems an increasingly rare event where you can assume that because the media talking heads or government sources assure you that it’s a case where 1+1 = 2, you can just take their word for it. Maybe they’ve left out out some missing numbers from their equation, so once you start plugging in those missing numbers and do the addition, you begin to realize that whatever the answer might be, it certainly isn’t 2.

    Did you know that it was reported in July that 42% of Bostonians did not believe the government/media theory regarding the circumstances of the Boston bombing attacks?

    http://whowhatwhy.com/?s=boston+bombing+carjacking

  11. MistaBlack

    This is will continue to have a devastating effect on our persons and economies 5 trillion and counting.

    At what point do we consider a strategy that is more than just a military response?

    The US fought its longest war in Afghanistan and the enemy is stronger than ever.

  12. Anonymous

    @greenmonkey… What do you use to discern the real from the made up/false flags ? If its the websites you refer to, what makes you believe them and not others ? For every website you provide i can provide 10 that say the opposite, to which you can provide another 10 that say the opposite and so forth…

    If you can give me a sober answer to the above i would very much like it and in your own words if possible.

    Thanks

  13. MistaBlack

    “There is something very wrong with Islam.”

    This is a shallow article whose sole purpose in the last sentence above. There is nothing know here. Islam goes back 1400 years. Groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda are a new phenomena going back no more than 20 years.

    If the religion is to blame, why didn’t these groups exist 20 years ago?

  14. Cycles

    A devout Muslim! A blasted crackhead who was easily manipulated. A person looking for an excuse to create mayhem. A person fighting for people who probably don’t like him. A person who was not tolerated by the true practioners of Islam. All this guy and the one before him did was endanger the lives of the innocent. He died. No milk and honey and virgins for him. He brought dishonour to his family
    They should just round up all of these guys put them on a plane and send them to Syria or Iraq and give them to ISIS. Not a rational idea but it sure beats arresting them and putting them in prison. Forget three meals a day. Put them on the front lines with bullets hurtling toward them. Not like a video game. Certainly, not like the way it was described to them.
    Hunt them down because nobody is safe with them around. One must be forceful because these guys are not rational.
    Others will learn from the methods use to indoctrinate them and that is what is so damn frigtening.

  15. D Oracle.

    The most difficult person to stop is one man who is prepared to give his life in exchange for achieving his goal. Secret services around the world stay awake at night worrying about such a man.

  16. MoneyBrain

    @D Oracle
    Very true.
    However, as this week in Canada shows we had the info but the Politicians and so called “Leaders” TOTALLY FAILED to act expediently on the excellent intel. These misfits made it very clear they were NUTTERS and should have been put away or sent to ISIS on a ONE WAY Ticket.

  17. Anonymous

    @mistablack, if its not the religion, can you tell us what it could be/is?

  18. Dompey

    D Oracle

    Those words reeks with truth and a historical precedence. Several years ago embarked on a quest to discover any and everything about Nelson Mandela. And it so happened that I was in the public library one afternoon and this middle-age man who spoke with a distiction African accent, had within hands a copy of Nelson Mandela’s autobiography entitled: (The Long Walk to Freedom). And I must say without fear of contrdiction, that the content of the book moved me to an outpouring of tears. Because in one of the passage of that well written the book, Nelson Mandel utter these reverbrating words: ” PENALTY WILL NOT DETER A MAN, WHEN HIS CONSCIENCE HAS BEEN AROUSED.

  19. MoneyBrain

    Here is a little history. Including how the term ‘Leatherneck’ came to be.
    Most Americans are unaware of the fact that over two hundred years ago, the United States had declared war on Islam, and Thomas Jefferson led the charge!
    At the height of the eighteenth century, Muslim pirates were the terror of the Mediterranean and a large area of the North Atlantic. They attacked every ship in sight, and held the crews for exorbitant ransoms. Those taken hostage were subjected to barbaric treatment and wrote heart breaking letters home, begging their government and family members to pay whatever their Mohammedan captors demanded.

    These extortionists of the high seas represented the Islamic nations of Tripoli, Tunis, Morocco, and Algiers – collectively referred to as the Barbary Coast – and presented a dangerous and Unprovoked threat to the new American Republic.
    Before the Revolutionary War, U.S. merchant ships had been under the protection of Great Britain. When the U.S. declared its independence and entered into war, the ships of the United States were protected by France. However, once the war was won, America had to protect its own fleets. Thus, the birth of the U.S. Navy.
    Beginning in 1784, seventeen years before he would become president, Thomas Jefferson became America’s Minister to France. That same year, the U.S. Congress sought to appease its Muslim adversaries by following in the footsteps of European nations who paid bribes to the Barbary States, rather than engaging them in war.

    In July of 1785, Algerian pirates captured American ships, and the Day of Algiers demanded an unheard-of ransom of $60,000. It was a plain and simple case of extortion, and Thomas Jefferson was vehemently opposed to any further payments. Instead, he proposed to Congress the formation of a coalition of allied nations who together could force the Islamic states into peace. A disinterested Congress decided to pay the ransom.

    In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli’s ambassador to Great Britain to ask by what right his nation attacked American ships and enslaved American citizens, and why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.

    The two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam “was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

    Despite this stunning admission of premeditated violence on non-Muslim nations,as well as the objections of many notable American leaders, including George Washington, who warned that caving in was both wrong and would only further embolden the enemy, for the following fifteen years, the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to over twenty percent of the United States government annual revenues in 1800.

    Jefferson was disgusted. Shortly after his being sworn in as the third President of the United States in 1801, the Pasha of Tripoli sent him a note demanding the immediate payment of $225,000 plus $25,000 a year for every year forthcoming. That changed everything.

    Jefferson let the Pasha know, in no uncertain terms, what he could do with his demand. The Pasha responded by cutting down the flagpole at the American consulate and declared war on the United States. Tunis, Morocco, and Algiers immediately followed suit.

    Jefferson, until now, had been against America raising a naval force for anything beyond coastal defense, but having watched his nation be cowed by Islamicthuggery for long enough, decided that it was finally time to meet force with force.

    He dispatched a squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean and taught the Muslim of the Barbary Coast a lesson he hoped they would never forget. Congress authorized Jefferson to empower U.S. ships to seize all vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli and to “cause to be done all other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war would justify”.

    When Algiers and Tunis, who were both accustomed to American cowardice and acquiescence, saw the newly independent United States had both the will and the might to strike back, they quickly abandoned their allegiance to Tripoli.
    The war with Tripoli lasted for four more years, and raged up again in 1815. The bravery of the U.S. Marine Corps in these wars led to the line “to the shores of Tripoli” in the Marine Hymn, They would forever be known as “leathernecks” for the leather collars of their uniforms, designed to prevent their heads from being cut off by the Muslim scimitars when boarding enemy ships.

    Islam, and what its Barbary followers justified doing in the name of their prophet and their god, disturbed Jefferson quite deeply. America had a tradition of religious tolerance, the fact that Jefferson, himself, had co-authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen. A religion based on supremacism, whose holy book not only condoned but mandated violence against unbelievers was unacceptable to him. His greatest fear was that someday this brand of Islam would return and pose an even greater threat to the United States.

    This should bother every American. That the Islams have brought about women-only classes and swimming times at taxpayer-funded universities and public pools; that Christians, Jews, and Hindus have been banned from serving on juries where Muslim defendants are being judged, Piggy banks and Porky Pig tissue dispensers have been banned from workplaces because they offend Islamist sensibilities. Ice cream has been discontinued at certain Burger King locations because the picture on the wrapper looks similar to the Arabic script for Allah, public schools are pulling pork from their menus, on and on in the news papers….

    It’s death by a thousand cuts, or inch-by-inch as some refer to it, and most Americans have no idea that this battle is being waged every day across America. By not fighting back, by allowing groups to obfuscate what is really happening, and not insisting that the Islamists adapt to our own culture, the United States is cutting its own throat with a politically correct knife, and helping to further the Islamists agenda. Sadly, it appears that today’s America would rather be politically
    correct than victorious.
    Any doubts, just Google Thomas Jefferson vs the Muslim World
    Happy Remembering!

  20. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    Thanks for your brief introduction of American History with respect to Islam, but I have one question to beg of you sire: specifically, when did North Africa constituted the entire people who represent the face of Islam? If as you have claimed that Thomas Jefferson led the charged on the war on Islam? Why wasn’t this war prosecuted on a global scale? Now, wasn’t Islam on the mainland of Africa prior to the first century?

  21. D Oracle.

    Dompey, your description of my words as “reeks” is an incorrect pejorative…if you check its meaning, I’m sure you’ll agree and amend.

  22. Dompey

    D Oracle

    I understand the concept of Malapropism quite well and has been accused of such. However, the force of a word does not necessarily depends on it conventional usage, but the context in which it is applied. Do you agree?

  23. Dompey

    D Oracle

    Would you have prefer I lay before your consideration the words:

    1) Infused
    2) Interlaced
    3) Interwoven
    Instead of Reeks?

    Reeks: by contemporary definition means: To emit a strong offensive odor, a stench.

    Now, I used the word Reeks in the above context to indicated that your words were Impregnated with truth.

  24. Dompey

    D Oracle

    Here is my final point on this issue. When said that your words Reeks with Truth, Truth employed in this context, took away the negative connotation associated with the word Reeks. Do you not agree?

  25. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    You have the unmitigated gall to referenced Thomas Jefferson name in a conversation involving morality. When Thomas Jefferson who had been planter by profession, owned hundreds of African American. At the age of twenty-one Jefferson inherited 5,000 acres of land and fifty-two slaves by his father’s wiil. So in my estimation, Jefferson was in no moral position to level a standard of moral correctability at Islam, when he himself was guilty of one of the most egregious and atrocious injustices known to mankind.

  26. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    Now, with all due respect sir, could you not have chosen someone who is qualified on the moral-level to make your case against Islam? Must I question your thought-process at the time you decided to referenced this questionable historical figure?

  27. MistaBlack

    “Islam, and what its Barbary followers justified doing in the name of their prophet and their god, disturbed Jefferson quite deeply. America had a tradition of religious tolerance, the fact that Jefferson, himself, had co-authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen.”

    In fact that is some of the most revisionist folktale I have read in some time. Jefferson was a walking hypocrite for all the reasons Mr. Dompey stated. Here is his hypocrisy he left us the oldest quran in the nation. The discussion around religious freedom and no religious test centered around the possibility of a Muslim president, read “Jefferson’s Quran” by noted scholar Denise A. Spellberg.

    “That the Islams have brought about women-only classes and swimming times at taxpayer-funded universities and public pools…”

    You are an alarmist of hate!

    All over NYC there are pools that are segregated even some NYC parks dept. pools offer segregated sessions to satisfy the Orthodox Jewish community. One such pool is the St. John pool, Crown Heights, Brooklyn.

    “That Christians, Jews, and Hindus have been banned from serving on juries where Muslim defendants are being judged”

    Cite it! What orifice did you yank that from?

  28. MistaBlack

    Jefferson represents the same duplicity that exist today, the ability to pontificate about the rights of man while eviscerating all of them.

  29. MoneyBrain

    @Dompey
    Since Islam SANCTIONED Slavery and indeed Muslims were among the first and major slave owners in Africa especially focused on Zanzibar and East Africa, that does NOT appear to be a variable in this context. (unfortunate as that fact maybe)

  30. MistaBlack

    Since Christianity SANCTIONED Slavery and indeed Christians captured Africans converted them by force, consequently enslaved their fellow Christians as property with no rights to life or liberty until death, that does NOT appear to be a variable in this context.(unfortunate as that fact may be)

  31. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    This you may not have known, but the Five Civilized Tribes ( a name given to them by the White man because of their European socialization): the Cherokees, Choclaws, Chickasaws, Creeks and the Seminoles Native American Indians owned some 4,346 African American Slaves among themseves.

    So in view of this reality, I wouldn’t have used any of them to make a case for moral- correctness because their hands were stained with an unpardonable injustice.

    Nevertheless, the leading protagonist in your argument Thomas Jefferson, was in no position moral or otherwise, to demand a standard of moral-correctitude of Islam because he himself being guilty of some of the moral- indiscretions he directed at Islam. And finally, there is this misconception in the secular world, that the Christian Church was silent on the issue of European-Economic-Slavery, when Quakers and Puritans like John Brown of Connecticut made the ultimate sacrifice by given of his life for his objection to this evil institution.

  32. MoneyBrain

    As U gents may or may not know Barbados was a major sanctuary for Quakers and that is the main reason one part of my family ventured there.

    We all should know that PEOPLE of many different types SANCTIONED slavery INCLUDING BLACK and BROWN of Africa and African decent. It was WRONG regardless but one lesson is that humans can justify what suits them!

    I wish no harm to Muslims!
    Jihadist types will have to desist or DIE! Are they true Muslims?

    Are they just dwelling in the past and pissed because Europeans were able to defend Europe in 1492 Spain and in 1682 at the gates of Vienna?
    The major problem in the ME is the hate between the Sunni’s and the Shia!
    When this really blows watch out!

  33. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    Now with your compositional eloquence expresed so remarkably above, I must then ask the rhetorical- question: whose side are you on? And I ask that question with the thought in mind that for every argument an equal argument is opposed. Now, correct me if I appear simple -minded and in want of understanding, but in my estimation, you have constructed an argument predicated on the premise that seeks to point to Islam immoral conduct, throughout Northern Africa. But the same argument can also be constructed for Europe/ Christianity economic exploits/endeavors throughout Africa and the Americans.

  34. MoneyBrain

    @Dompey
    My point IS that humans are inherently EVIL and always look to divide and conquer, eg
    1Black vs white
    2 Christians vs Muslims
    3 richer vs poorer

    So it is no surprise to me that black Christian Bim is lead by richer black peeps that care mainly about their Personal NET WORTH ENHANCEMENT Plan and NOT about the improvement of the People’s standard of living!
    All the division is conducted my those who want to play MIND GAMES for their personal SELF AGGRANDISEMENT.

  35. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    Your prognosticatory analysis of the differences between the Sunni and Shia is indicative of a prevasive Western mindset. Now, who would have thought that the Americans and the English would have been such good friends today? Of course you’re cognizant of the fact that the British burn the White House to the ground in the War of 1812? So why can you believe that Shia and Sunni cloud possibly resolve they differences in the not to distant future.

  36. Dompey

    No Moneybrain, but rather, for every Good that comes into the world, there is a corresponding Evil: wrong right, evil good, hate love, peace war, life death etc. And if humankind is incapable of do right, what sense does it make trying? Now, I am using your premise as a basis for justifying evil.

  37. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    Please excuse my above mistakes because my attention was fixed elsewhere when last wrote my response. What I really meant to say is this: if mankind is incapable of doing right, what sense does it make trying to do so. As you will know, there is a moral conscience which resides within the Soul of man and it speaks to him regarding wrong and right. This same moral conscience lived in the hearts of those men who knew that its was wrong to enslaved another human being for the sake of material gain. So therefore, if we adhere to the above premise, as way of justifiable basis our wrongings, we might as well not call people on their Sins because of they incapacity to do right.

  38. Robert Storey

    These Muslims should be sent back to their own bloody country country, we have the same problems in the UK.The main reason them lot come over is to claim our benefits then go off and join some Jihad bunch from bongo bongo land.

  39. Dompey

    Robert

    I am quite sure third and fourth generations of Muslims were born and bred in the UK? So in that respect, the UK is obviously their home, one would think.

  40. Robert Storey

    @Dopey.

    They can stay if they stop wearing those burkas and join the C of E, if not send em back.

    Most of the bloody immigrants come over from France claiming some rubbish about asylum, they should be left in the boats with no food or water. Then sent back.

    Look what’s happened in Yorkshire with the sexual abuse? grooming British girls.

  41. MoneyBrain

    TOO many are not faithful to Allah!
    Never forget my Hstel days in London inmid1970 had some Pak muslim friends who drunk serious alcohol and wanted all the girls. HYowevr, when a beautiful Pak girl came into the Hostel they sure did not want me to say hi far less. HYPOCRITICAL BASTARDS!

  42. MoneyBrain

    Dompey
    “Leaders” dont care bout people, just about $$$$$$$$ and the highlife.

    Pass the champagne Froon!!! says Stinky!

  43. Dompey

    Robert Storey

    I can tell from your emotion discharged that you feel quite passionate about immigration in the UK. But your bigotry and nationalism leaves something to be desired.

    United States of America is often viewed by many throughout the world as a land of an immigrant population.

    And upon deeper analysis, intelligence minds would have to concluded that the engine which fuels the American way of life is weaved within her immigrant population. And it was because of the American inclusionist spirit, that one of the author of the American Constitution, Sir Alexander Hamilton, who by the way was born in Nevis in the Caribbean, was given the equal opportunity to realized his full potention! And finally, I believe that open-mindedness, tolerance and inclusiveness it what the world is in want of.

  44. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    I often caution the anti-intellectual Bush Tea, to be circumspect with respect to utilizing an Absolute in describing any situation because it does a desservice to those persons who not party to such conduct. I have two questions for you Moneybrain: what was Abraham Lincoln, as well as John F. Kennedy motivation for going into politics? In Kennedy’s case, it could have been money because he was a very wealthy man.

  45. Robert Storey

    The problem as I see it, all these types want to come to England, even my favorite fish and chip shop is run by bloody foreigners. Canada, has a very strict USA immigration policy that the UK should adopt.

  46. Dompey

    Robert

    I hope you’re not one of those person who are resistant to change and whether you like it or not, change is the only constant in this life. Robert, gone are the days of restrictive immigration policies and the widespreading trade protectionism of the past. Guess what Robert: we now have a new global economy in the contemporary context of the phrase; A new global village; coupled a super-information highway.

  47. MoneyBrain

    Dompey
    JFK wanted POWER, plain and simple. He did try to help black peeps to some degree, which was good, but that family had problems with early deaths for a reason.Reaping what they sew!
    The patriarch was NOT a pleasant man at all, a bastard to say the least. He was involved in dastardly activities and so badly wanted JFK to become Pres that he sold out to the Chicago mafia and then never even mentioned it to his sons who went after the mafia with a vengeance not knowing that they had threatened and cajoled to attain the JFK victory in the key state which made all the difference at the margin.

  48. MoneyBrain

    Dompey
    In the UK the muslims cause much trouble and have unemployment problems. How come, racism? NO the same brown peeps that are Hindus dont have anywhere near the same negative profile! Loads of darker peeps do well in the UK including many from Bim.

  49. robert ross

    Dompey

    You speak of the “inclusionist spirit”. It’s a wonderful ideal. But do you think moslems understand it, accept it and practice it? What of, eg, ‘join us or you’re dead’?

  50. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    “Learders dont care bout people just bout money and highlife”

    And I am telling you that this is an incorrect assumption, especially when one traversed the landscape of American politics.

    Now let’s not deflect from the basic premise of your agrument sir. You have made an Absolute assumption about the forces which gives rise to the psychological apparatus of the modern era politician, and an assumption which falls short of the truth.

    In the case of John F. Kennedy, you have gotten it wrong and your attempts to bark off Kennedy’s life-story does very little to help your case because your talking to one who is well read, and has read the Warren Commission on the Kennedy assessination a little over thirty years ago. So the morale of the story is, there anything you can me about John F. Kennedy and his family that I don’t already know because was and still is a Big Fan. Here is another question for you Moneybrain: was FDR, Harry Truman and Ronald Reagan, motivated by money and the highlife as you seems to suggested?

  51. Dompey

    Ross

    To answer your question I must addess this one to you: have you any close friends who are true Muslims? Well, I have three good friends who are Muslims from different parts of the world. And I have also been in close association with the Black Muslims here from the Nation of Islam, and I have found them all to be very inclusive and generous people. That is my presonal experience and I quite sure some have found their experiences quite different from that of mine. I hope I have answered your question Ross?

  52. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    If you’re trying to say that the Barbadian politician is motivated by money and what the highlife entails in Barbados, than perhaps you’re correct in your assumption. Now, I hope your cognizant of the fact that Barbados still happens to be a third world country where many of its politicians comes from humble beginnings. So one ought to anticipate this kind of conduct on the part Barbadian politician because let’s face it, if the necessary checks and balances aren’t in place to prevent such conduct on the part of the Barbadian politician, is will presist into perpetuality.

  53. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    Take Ronald Reagan for example: he neither cared for the Highlife nor did he too much cared for the excess of powere. He had had a tasted of it prior to his presidency! Reagan had and the public record can validate this fact, a fixed obsession in his desire to rid the world of totalitarianism. And that is why he accumulated more national debt than all the presidents before him combined.

  54. MoneyBrain

    @Dompey
    JFK went to bars in Washington and met sluts( although he had a beautiful wife / kids) that he brought back to the WH and a couple of them turned out to be East European Secret Agents!

    JFK had to go in a “coup d’etat” as his sexual desires, treatment of certain industry sectors eg Iron/steel, action with Castro and the Chicago Mafia et al meant that he created very powerful enemies. Your knowledge of the Warren Commission is close to useless since that report had in plenty nuff fiction!

    You tell me you are well read but you DONT PROVE that!

  55. MoneyBrain

    @Dompey
    Barry O has know made Reagan’s Nat Debt look like a lil mocksport!

  56. Robert Storey

    @Dompey 11.12, I suggest you read my latest post on the Harlequin thread. Someone has been using my ID to post racist comments, some which BFP have removed. I will not be using my real name as an ID anymore. At least your response to the above post was a measured reply and not a hysterical one so credit there. If my name appears on this thread again it is not me so please ignore it.

  57. Dompey

    Moneybrain

    So you’re in the business of judging the book by its cover now? The book dealt in detail with all the major players like: Mafia boss Sam Giancana, Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby and Fidel Castro and the Soviet connection etc.

  58. MoneyBrain

    @Dompey
    LOADS of FICTION!

    Support your case nuh?

  59. Green Monkey

    @greenmonkey… What do you use to discern the real from the made up/false flags ? If its the websites you refer to, what makes you believe them and not others ? For every website you provide i can provide 10 that say the opposite, to which you can provide another 10 that say the opposite and so forth…

    If you can give me a sober answer to the above i would very much like it and in your own words if possible.

    You can only look at all the various opinions and arguments pro or con and decide in the light of past history and known participation by many countries (including Western democracies) in past false flag events and psy-war operations and consider whatever strategic interests might be in play (e.g. control of energy and mineral resources, control of strategic pipeline routes, implementation of a global US hegemonic rule as per the influential US neoconservative’s Pax Americana agenda,economic need to maintain the US dollar as the world reserve currency for oil sales) which explanations pro or con false-flag make the most sense to you.

    Most people are handicapped out of the gate, because past false flag operations are not as a rule reported or discussed much in the mainstream media, so many remain entirely unaware that even NATO countries and intelligence agencies could stage false flag operations or that the highest levels of the Pentagon (Joint Chiefs of Staff) would plan false flag events as in Operation Northwoods hoping to use them to justify an invasion of Cuba. Therefore they have a knee-jerk rejection to any suggestion that a “democracy like ours” would purposely allow or stage attacks on its own people or its allies to manipulate public opinion or artificially create a causus belli before even looking at the evidence.

    Governments Admit They Carry Out False Flag Terror
    http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2010/02/governments-have-admitted-that-they.html

  60. Green Monkey

    The “Double Government” Secret Gets Out
    By Russ Baker

    You know something is going on when the cautious Boston Globe publishes not one, but two, pieces dealing with the “double government.”

    This cryptic phrase encapsulates a serious claim about the American body politic: That a permanent and largely unaccountable bureaucracy keeps on doing what it wants to do, no matter who the voters elect to the White House.

    Both of the Globe articles refer to “National Security and Double Government,” a book by Michael J. Glennon, professor of international law at Tufts University. From the descriptions of its contents (we haven’t read the book yet, but we will—and perhaps excerpt), the author is talking, with due academic caution, about an out-of-control security/military apparatus.

    The fact that the Globe thinks this book is important enough to warrant not one but two analytical pieces is significant, because Boston was the scene of the mysterious Boston Marathon Bombing.

    In the aftermath of that tragedy, the national security apparatus and its allies in the media, academia and corporate America (including, significantly, the Globe itself) rushed to discourage us from looking deeper at what happened—while at the same time the nat-sec folks used the event to further expand their influence at the expense of civil liberties.

    – See more at: http://whowhatwhy.com/2014/11/03/the-double-government-secret-gets-out/#sthash.gKFOMVkj.dpuf

  61. Green Monkey

    Bonfire Night at the Patsy’s Club, Wherein I Learn the True History of Guido Fawkes
    by Malcolm Pryce

    When we examine into the details supplied to us as to the progress of the affair, we find much of what the conspirators are said to have done is well-nigh incredible, while it is utterly impossible that if they really acted in the manner described, the public authorities should not have had full knowledge of their proceedings—John Gerard, What was the Gunpowder Plot? London, 1897

    snip

    Even more absurd, the very house which contained the entrance to their tunnel, along with all the mining impedimenta that went with it, was not even private or exclusive to them, and had been set aside as a withdrawing room for the very Lords they intended blowing up. It is inconceivable that any of this really happened as described. They were all well known to the authorities as outspoken recusants, and the King’s intelligence department in those days was an even bigger nest of keyhole peeping snoops, sneaks, vipers and underwear-sniffing crooks than the one we have today. The country was awash with their spies and informers. No plot or intrigue ever escaped their attention, largely because they started most of them and like our own intelligence services today they were mighty proficient at discovering their own plots. Written records of the time show clearly that the plot had been known about and under observation for two years prior to its miraculous ‘discovery’. Fawkes and his crew, irrespective of what they had in mind, were being led in their endeavour with the precise intent of this marvellous dramatic last minute escape from doom, whereupon the King would be empowered to enact precisely the sort of legislation he had in mind all along, but now with the full support of the people. As the wags of the time had it, it was amazing how the plots against the king always seemed remarkably convenient in prompting him to do precisely what he wanted to do.’

    ‘So what was the point then?’

    ‘To blame the Jihadists, of course,’ said Lee.

    ‘Jihadists?’

    ‘Oh sorry, I meant Catholics. Wrong century. Silly me.’

    ‘The King passed an act introducing the celebration of November 5th into the Anglican liturgy, and called it the Papist Conspiracy. The wording was sweet: ‘Many malignant papists, Jesuits and seminary priests, much envying the true and free possession of the Gospel by the nation, under the greatest, most learned and most religious monarch who had ever occupied the throne…’

    ‘Note that “much envying the true and free…” that was 17th century for they hate us for our freedoms.’

    http://aberystwythnoir.wordpress.com/2014/11/05/bonfire-night-at-the-patsys-club-wherein-i-learn-the-true-history-of-guido-fawkes/

  62. MoneyBrain

    This is what Islam is really about. I have no problem with this philosophy stated here by a female Doctor in Ottawa.

    A Canadian friend asked me to describe my religion to her. This is how I simply described my simple religion.
    Islam is a very simple religion. Islam includes only 5 simple letters; I, S, L, A, and M.
    Islam means the submission to God (Allah; the most merciful, the most compassionate).
    The Muslim is the one who believes in Islam.
    Islam has been built on 5 – main pillars; as Muslim;
    1. I witness that Allah is one and only one; and Muhammad is Allah’s prophet and the last prophet.
    2. I pray 5- times a day.
    3. I fast the month of Ramadan (29 or 30 days/ year).
    4. I pay Zakat (Kind of alms).
    5. I perform Hajj (pilgrimage) if I can (in terms of health and wealth capabilities).
    According to prophet Muhammad’s definition in different colloquies;
    A Muslim must be;
    1. Clean
    2. Honest
    3. Polite
    4. Peaceful
    5. Tidy and neat
    6. Smart and wise
    7. Not idiot. (Not like the ones we watch them on the CNN and the Fox news).
    8. Supportive to and peaceful with his/ her neighbors.
    9. Gracious with the weak, the young, and the elders.
    10. Generous.
    11. Strong and brave in the right.
    12. Fair and does not accept the injustice.
    13. Rich in terms of moral and wealth (or should seek to be wealthy via the good deed).
    According to the real Islam;
    1. The Muslim believes in all divine religions with no exception.
    2. The Muslim believes in all God’s prophets with no distinctions.
    3. The Muslim believes in God’s angels.
    4. The Muslim believes in the destiny of God.
    5. The Muslim believes in the life, the death, and the life after death (the Heaven).
    According to the real Islam;
    1. There are no differences between males and females in human rights and human duties within a dynamic cyclicality. In simple words; the long life duties = the long life rights in evenness.
    2. There are no differences between the rich and the poor in terms of the allocation of the endowments of life because God is just.
    3. There are no differences among people. All people have equal rights and equal opportunities in life.
    What Jihad means in Islam
    Jihad means “struggle for a good goal”. The Muslim parents struggle to pave the way to a better future for their children. When I study hard; I struggle in life for a better future. When I work hard I struggle in life for a better future.
    The defense when I get attacked to protect my soul, my people, and my homeland is recommended in Islam but attacking and killing peaceful people is considered a heinous crime in Islam and it’s impermissible by all means and cannot be justified under any circumstances.
    What Halal (permissible) or Haram (impermissible/ forbidden) means in Islam
    Everything is halal in Islam unless it’s said obviously in Quraan (The holy book in Islam) and the Sunnah (The prophet’s legacy) that it’s forbidden or it’s limited in numbers or boarders.
    1. Muslims don’t drink wine because it’s said obviously in Quraan that “Don’t touch wine”.
    2. Muslims don’t eat pork because it’s said obviously in Quraan that “Don’t eat pork”.
    3. Muslims cannot have sex outside the marriage wedlock because it’s said obviously in Quraan that ”Do not come near the adultery”.
    and so on.
    Islam is a simple religion that draws a good path for people and they are free to follow that path or to divert from that path. If they follow the path of Islam they are called before God ”Muslims”. If they choose to not to follow that path they are called before God ”Non-Muslims”but no one can judge them but God.
    What Infidels mean in Islam
    Infidels in Islam mean ”the evils” (malefactors). The infidel in Islam doesn’t mean the atheist as it’s wrongly translated to different languages.
    Is Islam a religion of peace?
    To me Islam is a practical religion. It’s not for peace or for violence. It’s just a practical religion that helps the Muslim to have a systematic life from day 1 to the last day in life. A Muslim is not an angel or a devil. A Msulim is just a human-being who follows the path of Islam as much as he/she can.
    I consider myself lucky that I have a system in life as a Muslim woman but I don’t feel that I am better or less than anyone else.
    I am Muslim and I don’t care of those idiots who hijacked my religion. They don’t represent me or my religion.
    I hope if I could describe Islam in simple words to my Canadian friend and I hope if she could perceive it also that simple.
    Ghada Mohamed in Ottawa; October 14th, 2014

  63. MistaBlack

    @MoneyBrain
    Excellent post!

  64. Green Monkey

    Following article is by Canadian journalist and author Barrie Zwicker, at one time a mainstream journalist writing for such Canadian newspapers as The Globe and Mail and Toronto Star among others. He also taught journalism for a number of years at Ryerson Polytechnic (now Ryerson University) in Toronto. He has also hosted a program as media critic for the Canadian Cable TV channel Vision TV.

    Canada’s false flag terror: fingerprints of U.S. involvement
    by Barrie Zwicker

    THE “TERRORIST” EVENTS of Wednesday October 22nd in Ottawa and two days earlier in St-Jean-sur-Richelieu bear all the hallmarks of a coordinated cross-border one-two punch false flag operation.

    The first, the left jab hit-and-run killing of a Canadian soldier, would be the psychological softening up for the follow-up right cross, the killing of another Canadian soldier in Ottawa. Together they dazed the public to an extent that even the ostentatiously-iconic murder at the National War Memorial alone might not have achieved.

    The context was within the intensification of the so-called “global war on terror” and in concert with the pro-military Stephen Harper government’s deployment of warplanes supposedly fighting “the terrorists” of the suddenly-emerging “Islamic State.” The first bombing sorties of Canadian F-18s took place hours after the violent acts of supposed “homegrown” and “self-radicalized” supporters of “Islamic jihad.”

    Domestically the second outrage occurred on the very day the government was to introduce legislation giving the RCMP, CSIS and CSEC [CSEC is changing its name (to CSE) so that it can continue to spy – and indeed do more spying abroad – but not have the word “Canada” associated with this spying. “Spy agency CSEC says goodbye to Canada” is the headline over an October 31st Toronto Star story by Tonda MacCharles. (//www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/10/31/spy_agency_csec_says_goodbye_to_canada.html) expanded powers under decreased transparency.

    These coincidences of timing, I submit, are not coincidences at all but quite deliberately planned to maximize the intended impacts: greater public support for a new war in the Middle East, better chances for faster and less-questioned support in Parliament for the increased police and spy powers, and enhanced public approval ratings for the Harper government in the run-up to next year’s general election.

    This article delves deeper into the timing including that the events happened, to the day, as military-intelligence “exercises” were taking place that precisely mirrored the “surprise” events. Other hallmarks include the prior involvement of government agents with both of the supposed jihadists, the fact that both were easy-to-manipulate “human wreckage” and the early “terrorism” branding led by the Prime Minister. Other hallmarks include the unfolding parade of memorable iconic elements and images, the “lone wolf” narratives, the dual role of the media in general to both to reinforce the official narrative and to fail to ask fundamental questions about it.

    Continued at:
    https://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2014/11/08/canadas-false-flag-terror-fingerprints-of-u-s-involvement/

  65. Blackman

    give me a break Green Monkey. According to you everything is a CIA plot. i suppose all 20,000 muslim terror attacks since 9/11 have been organized by the CIA. The suicide bombing in Nigeria yesterday where the Muslim took out 40 or 50 kids at a school. Yes, definitely CIA all over it.

    Get a life.

  66. MistaBlack

    Your ignorance and naivete is only surpassed by your snark. Does Green Monkeys supposition has any historically basis?

  67. Green Monkey

    Rethinking “Conspiracy Theories”
    by Shawn Hamilton

    The terms “conspiracy theorist” and “conspiracy nut” are used frequently to discredit a perceived adversary using emotional rather than logical appeals. It’s important for the sake of true argument that we define the term “conspiracy” and use it appropriately, not as an ad hominem attack on someone whose point of view we don’t share.

    According to my Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary, the word “conspiracy” derives from the Latin “conspirare,” which means literally “to breathe together” in the sense of agreeing to commit a crime. The primary definition is “planning and acting together secretly, especially for a harmful or unlawful purpose, such as murder or treason.”

    It was in this sense that Mark Twain astutely observed, “A conspiracy is nothing but a secret agreement of a number of men for the pursuance of policies which they dare not admit in public.”

    snip

    Unfortunately, too many people smugly chide “conspiracy theories” as if they imagine that such a derisive characterization reflects superior intellect—whether or not they know anything about the issue in question. It’s a pitiful display of ego inflation and intellectual dishonesty, yet it appears to be a common approach preferred by those either short on information and critical thinking skills or harboring a hidden agenda.

    Here are a few examples of past “conspiracy theories” that have been commonly derided but were later determined to be credible:

    Continued here: http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/10/27/rethinking-conspiracy/