Dear Barbados Free Press,
We were just coming of a train just outside London and we found a box of documents relating to “Due Diligence” of a company or companies called Harlequin, they appear to be developing resorts in the Caribbean so we feel this is probably a good place to show what we found, especially for anyone out there who might be interested in investing in Harlequin.
There are many files to upload so please bear with us.
This is a 70 page redacted interim intelligence report from Regulatory Legal Solicitors, it makes for pretty grim reading, we did not redact it, the documents are exactly as we found them on the train.
This is an interesting witness statement from Jim Baker contained in the due diligence documents apparently left on the train, by a guy who resembled Simon Terry, but it was dark so we could not be sure.
Seems to be a lot of people suing Dave and Carol Ames in the Courts in the UK, wonder why this was in the Due Diligence, Seems like Jim is saying that Harlequin are worth nothing.
Yours very truly,
Anonymous!
Editor’s Note
Okay, okay… we’re a little behind on things. Might have had a couple of lost nights in the tradition of Dick Van Dyke. (Loved him in Mary Poppins, nevermind the worst phony cockney accent in film history!) The “found on London train” comments and documents were all sent using one of those anonymous proxies, so we really have no way to tell who sent them to us or from what country.
We’ll upload the documents when we can below. We’ll do a few now and get to the rest in the morning right here…
Found on a Train
May 21, 2014 at 10:51 pm
The following are six of many claims against Harlequin companies and Mr. Dave Ames personally, part of the claim is for misrepresentation, to the simple folk out there, that means lying. Now Ames in his claim in California denies he lied, well folks tomorrow we shall show six judgments which go with these claims which kinda suggest that the Judge also believed that Ames had engaged in misrepresentation, or the act of lying. Lets hope the folks at wordpress and Barbados free press pass these claims and judgments to their legal teams if required.
Judgments and Encumbrances tomorrow.
https://anonfiles.com/file/829ab9e478424a5dd40dbeb6c5429785
2011-05 SVGHCV2011-0248.PDF
1400711829379.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/b31153bcb3ab9036286378615c131c02
2012-03-09 SVGHCV2012-0082.PDF (702kB)
1400711899224.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/1d6a4ac97cf9aa9f63d6f717ec20ece1
2012-03-09 SVGHCV2012-0083.PDF (668kB)
1400711947474.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/aa25cdc13a0ad4ea541f68e323ca8559
2012-03-09 SVGHCV2012-0084.PDF (886kB)
1400712031289.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/d9f2da80430ccd97e01f9ad298deb831
2012-03-09 SVGHCV2012-0085.PDF (587kB)
1400712093263.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/87377c412ec4d8526c5d051734976bc5
2012-03-23 SVGHCV2012-0104.PDF (1MB)
1400712148480.pdf
UPDATE 22 / MAY / 2014
JUDGMENTS AND INCUMBERANCES BFP, WORDPRESS, AUTOMATIC INC please feel free to use these documents as evidence in the hearing in California tomorrow.
See link below for PDF’s of some of the judgments obtained.
https://anonfiles.com/file/7513fa8dc2f6948371ac032344cf3271
Ray.zip (4MB)
1400758649592.zip
Now see link below for PDF’s of some of the Incumberances obtained.
https://anonfiles.com/file/b379cb3062bd6de0c219587607dbb267
Ray 1.rar (5MB)
1400760203234.rar
We have been informed by reliable sources in St. Vincent that Mr. Ames has taken issue with the Incumberances, sources state that he feels they have not been registered or some such nonsense
The Incumberances are clearly marked with an official stamp, stating : ORIGINAL DOCUMENT LODGED AT THE REGISTRY HIGH COURT ST VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES.
However we have taken some extra precautions on the matter and will be able to update all with the good news for those with Incumberances later tonight or tomorrow morning.
I think the judgments alone tell the story, we fail to see how Ames can have any justification in his statements that he has not lied or engaged in mis-representations in light of these and other judgments.
May 22, 2014 at 3:10 pm
Publication of Due Diligence / Executive Summary
INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED – PLEASE COMPLETE SURVEY BY 12 noon – 23rd MAY 2014
https ://app.icontact DOT com/icp/sub/survey/start?
token=c1c640682ce5d3b7c6c6c289d47685d0&sid=303388&cid=152652 – SURVEY LINK
May 23, 2014 at 10:22 pm
We were just coming of a train just outside London and we found a box of documents relating to ” Due Diligence” of a company or companies called Harlequin, they appear to be developing resorts in the Caribbean so we feel this is probably a good place to show what we found, especially for anyone out there who might be interested in investing in Harlequin.
There are many files to upload so please bear with us.
https://anonfiles.com/file/351d18d270fae8b8a5c7eff47a338fdb
InterimExecutiveSummary230514final.pdf (244kB)
1400883643451.pdf
WITNESS STATEMENT OF JIM BAKER IN UK HIGH COURT
May 23, 2014 at 10:34 pm
This is an interesting witness statement from Jim Baker contained in the due diligence documents apparently left on the train, by a guy who resembled Simon Terry, but it was dark so we could not be sure.
Seems to be a lot of people suing Dave and Carol Ames in the Courts in the UK, wonder why this was in the Due Diligence, Seems like Jim is saying that Harlequin are worth nothing.
https://anonfiles.com/file/47fadd21967bd8aa58bad9e0d7a2e71e
witnessstatementfinalon16414.pdf
1400884146486.pdf
Loads more to come. Will not have it all up tonight. But from now on we will put a title on each post.
DUE DILIGENCE 3 SITE PLAN WITH VERY BIZARRE DOCUMENT PROPERTY PATH NAME.
May 23, 2014 at 10:48 pm
We found this in the document properties, of the site plan, how bizarre, wonder if RL have these documents, maybe they can have a look at the document properties, The path name says it all.
I:\BACKTOFUCKUP1-SITE\Site Survey\LOT PLAN_29 03 2011_REV14_Management ROAD MAP (1)
https://anonfiles.com/file/9eba3e582cbc82a791ec1335c084fe17
SitePlan.pdf (3MB)
1400885041689.pdf
DUE DILIGENCE 4 THE FOUR JUDGMENTS AGAINST HARLEQUIN RDC’S ???????????
May 23, 2014 at 10:54 pm
It gets better and better and we have hundreds of documents to go. jeez
This one is from Ames telling a company called Regulatory Legal how any judgments are against his RDC’s??????
Anyway look at the disclaimer in the letter from Ames, lol Jesus you cant make this shit up.
https://anonfiles.com/file/11f2f6af61863b07d93fc0b018d3b3d9
LetterfromHarlequinJudgements.pdf (434kB)
1400885455124.pdf
DUE DILIGENCE 5 THE INTERIM RL INTELLIGENCE REPORT, MAKES GRIM READING EVEN WITH THE REDACTIONS, OUCH
May 23, 2014 at 11:09 pm
This is a 70 page redacted interim intelligence report from Regulatory Legal Solicitors, it makes for pretty grim reading, we did not redact it, the documents are exactly as we found them on the train.
https://anonfiles.com/file/891a31ecf7464e00c9d4225308992021
INTERIMDUEDILIGENCEREPORTMAY2014.pdf (6MB)
1400886396233.pdf
DUE DILIGENCE 6 DUE DILIGENCE QUESTIONS TO HARLEQUIN BY RL AND ANSWERS FROM HARLEQUIN
May 23, 2014 at 11:22 pm
These are questions Regulatory Legal asked Harlequin about the title to the land, we just LOOOOOVE some of the answers.
https://anonfiles.com/file/74acfcda3024d0dc73f553bb9dddbdc9
Freeholdduediligence13.03.14 (1).pdf (184kB)
1400887154976.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/733e28ba8dbfe76d01d45a60beecf08c
FreeholdDueDiligenceQuestionnaireResponses.pdf (213kB)
1400887221150.pdf
DUE DILIGENCE 7 THE COMMISSIONS TO THE AGENTS, PLEASE NOTE HMSSE IS MISSING FROM THIS LIST.
May 24, 2014 at 12:19 am
This forms part of what they call the due diligence left on the train,
The following link is to the list of agents and the commissions they obtained.
I THINK THIS DOCUMENT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
https://anonfiles.com/file/32603eb7a19c8d986100dbce382618db
AgentsCommissionsPaid.pdf (335kB)
1400890541494.pdf
DUE DILIGENCE 8 A LIST OF SOME OF THE COMPANIES DUE TO BE STRUCK OFF, MORE TO FOLLOW……..
May 24, 2014 at 1:02 am
Ames, I’ve got banks lining up to give me money mate,
HELLO WE DON’T THINK SO YOU DELUDED SICKO YOU, THE FOLLOWING IS A LIST OF COMPANIES FACING BEING STRUCK OFF FOR FAILING IN THEIR STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, MORE TO FOLLOW………….
https://anonfiles.com/file/3c6459991b97c58ed8419f4546fdd805
doc30518820140305105346 Default.pdf (115kB)
1400892656716.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/bd468da46c2e070fe3c7edc0411f87a8
doc30518920140305105402 Default.pdf (134kB)
1400892714556.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/3e5d4cf57db3b0cd6ee5918832bdc456
doc30519020140305105414 Default.pdf (112kB)
1400892744967.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/b52a02ef16c2c3b2337060b2e5328013
doc30519120140305105441 Default.pdf (111kB)
1400892797466.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/56c578c906266ffdf700a3de296ac574
doc30519220140305105507 Default.pdf (122kB)
1400892836758.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/8616f954aa680b9d4234f2126376a15e
HarlequinAirLtd Default.pdf (273kB)
1400892879643.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/0df355eefe45e36dfd7154b12a809943
HarlequinBoutiqueHotelLtd Default.pdf (288kB)
1400892918175.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/ee5df51eac4b312f43891e6b7e49d8ad
HarlequinResortsStLuciaLtd Default.pdf (238kB)
1400892974649.pdf
https://anonfiles.com/file/640304bf92747f3b8eba880a43922523
NightJarLimited Default.pdf (303kB)
1400893027288.pdf
DUE DILIGENCE 9 DUE DILIGENCE BARBADOS
May 24, 2014 at 1:28 am
DUE DILIGENCE REPORT BARBADOS
WE NOTE THAT OUR OLD FRIENDS DAVID PATRICK CAMPION AND GARETH KEVIN RONAN ALONG WITH DAVID EDWARD AMES ARE DIRECTORS OF HARLEQUIN BOUTIQUE HOTEL LTD. SO THESE GENTLEMEN ASIDE FROM AMES WERE A LITTLE MORE THAN PAID EMPLOYEES, I SEE THEY ARE NOW OF INTEREST TO THOSE SHINING A LIGHT ON MR. AND MRS. AMES.
ANYONE WITH A CONTRACT IN THIS COMPANIES NAME SHOULD CONSIDER GOING AFTER ALL 3 GENTLEMEN, WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH DETAILS OF MR. RONAN’S CURRENT WHEREABOUTS SOON.
https://anonfiles.com/file/3f65abf552a14260d0279f3a01607078
duediligencereportBarbados2.pdf (103kB)
1400894430997.pdf
Anonymous
May 24, 2014 at 6:45 am
Big thank you for the details. The 70 page intelligence report is the nail in the coffin – insolvent companies, no building plan, no finance. Curtains
There’s a hole in my bucket dear Dave
May 24, 2014 at 7:41 am
Mr. Ames you have a leak. Rats leaving a sinking ship, as stated your legal team are not stupid 😉
Just imagine if they had a little chat with the boys in blue to cut a deal?
Brandle
May 24, 2014 at 8:08 am
What about Page 46 and the injunction ?
What else is Ames hiding ?
DUE DILIGENCE PART 10 THE FILED ACCOUNTS AND INCOMPETENCE OR WORSE WHOLESALE CORUPTION AMONGST THE ORGANS OF THE STATE OF ST. VINCENT POSSIBLY?
May 25, 2014 at 1:06 pm
On the 24th day of February 2014 the Deputy Registrar of Companies in St. Vincent issued not one but two strike off notices for Harlequin Property (SVG) Ltd.
See (A) and (B) below.
Both are still publicly available or were until the publication of this post.
(A) https://anonfiles.com/file/3c6459991b97c58ed8419f4546fdd805
doc30518820140305105346 Default.pdf (115kB)
1400892656716-2.pdf
(B) https://anonfiles.com/file/bd468da46c2e070fe3c7edc0411f87a8
doc30518920140305105402 Default.pdf (134kB)
1400892714556-2.pdf
The Strike off notice (A) states that Harlequin Property (SVG) Ltd is in default of its obligations in respect of;
(1) The failure to file Certificates of Solvency / Financial Statements for the period April 30th 2011-2013.
The Strike of notice (B) states that Harlequin Property (SVG) Ltd is in default of its obligations in respect of;
(1) The failure to file annual Returns for the years 2006-2012.
(2) The failure to file Certificates of Solvency / Financial Statements for the period 2006-2012.
Both Strike off notices appear to be inaccurate, but we do not believe this to be a mistake. We take a closer look.
On the 19th of December 2012 Mr. Sam Commissiong*** filed three annual returns for Harlequin Property (SVG) Ltd for the years 2009,2010 and 2011.
See (C), (D) and (E) below.
These returns were Registered with the Commercial Intellectual Property Office in St. Vincent on the 29th of January 2013.
(C) https://anonfiles.com/file/dfe5d65aa3c40e3d515b5e3989f77fca
HPSVG RETURNS FOR YEAR END DEC31 2009.pdf (331kB)
1400976625931.pdf
(D) https://anonfiles.com/file/0a85d04cdc236b3beffd5f65a4f01908
HPSVG ANNUAL RETURN FOR DEC31 2010.pdf (331kB)
1400976686729.pdf
(E) https://anonfiles.com/file/6a61059bb4e9b1e3cede5f0321c28e21
(C) HPSVG ANNUAL RETURN FOR DEC 31 2011.pdf (332kB)
1401022171666.pdf
*** (More on this guy later and the fact that the Hon Rene Baptiste, CMG, President St.Vincent and the Grenadines Bar Association has swept the allegations of perjury against Sam Commissiong under the carpet,)
At section (9) of the Annual Returns, under the heading “Financial Statements”, Sam Commissiong has stated the following,
That the assets of the company exceed $2,000,000.00
And
That “NO” Financial statements have been filed for the company in respect of the reporting period.
SVG Companies Act 1994, section 154 requires any company which has assets over EC$2m to have the accounts audited.
See
Click to access svg_co_act.pdf
for a copy of the Act. s 154 refers back to s 149, which is the section that deals with auditors.
On the 28th of December 2012 Harlequin filed “Unaudited” Financial Statements in St. Vincent for Harlequin Property (SVG) Ltd. for the financial years ending 30th April 2009, 30th April 2010 and 30th April 2011,
see (F,G and H below),
These accounts were registered by the Commercial and Intellectual Property Office in St. Vincent on the 2nd of January 2013. It has to be noted that the “Unaudited” Accounts for 2008 for Harlequin Property SVG Ltd have “NOT” been filed or more importantly had not been filed as of the 2nd of January 2013.
(F) https://anonfiles.com/file/f52fb74d56a5f595107a0a9f380c6eca
2009 Accounts HPSVG.pdf (1MB)
1401021032180.pdf
(G) https://anonfiles.com/file/265afabacadc12f33df8e11a3cfc4203
2010 Accounts HPSVG.pdf (1MB)
1401021086800.pdf
(H) https://anonfiles.com/file/4a12240c12a610ba0a3d69264ae92376
2011 Accounts HPSVG.pdf (1MB)
1401021138214.pdf
The law in St. Vincent however requires that the Accounts to be filed are audited if the companies assets exceed EC $ 2,000,000.00 (Two Million Dollars) see Act sections 149-154 in the PDF above.
The accounts that Harlequin have filed are “not audited”, so a question has to be asked as to why the CIPO accepted the Harlequin Accounts.
The Accounts are also to be accompanied by Certificates of Solvency, the accounts that Harlequin filed do not have these.
The Law also states the accounts have to be filed chronologically, yet the 2008 “Unaudited” accounts were never filed.
Can Jim Baker the accountant for Harlequin explain this?
We have issues and we raise very serious questions as to the filing of the returns accounts and Certificates of Status.
Let us go back to the filing of the annual returns by Mr. Commissiong.
(1) These were filed with the Commercial Intellectual Property Office in St. Vincent on the 19th of December 2012, stating as in above that the accounts had not been filed, yet nine days later the “Unaudited” accounts get filed.
Sam Commissiong can therefore state with conviction that he has done nothing wrong, by clearly stating that the accounts were not filed on the date that he filed the returns.
But what was the hurry to file the returns just nine days ahead of filing the “Unaudited” accounts, and over the Christmas Holiday period. Commissiong was late by 3,2 and 1 year respectively in filing the returns, so what was the rush?
Sam Commissiong knew that if he filed the annual returns after the filing of the “Unaudited accounts” he still would have had to state At section (9) of the Annual Returns, under the heading “Financial Statements”, section (d) That “NO” Financial statements have been filed for the company in respect of the reporting period.
Sam Commission understands the law in St. Vincent requires the Harlequin Property (SVG) Accounts to be audited. The filed accounts were not.
Had the date of the submittal of the Annual returns post dated the date of the submittal of the “Unaudited accounts” it would have put beyond doubt that the accounts filed by Harlequin Property (SVG) Ltd, were not valid.
What is also interesting to note is that it took the Commercial and Intellectual Property Office in St. Vincent 40, forty days to register the annual returns, again they were filed on the 19th of December 2012 and registered on the 28th of January 2013.
Yet the “unaudited” accounts were filed with the Commercial and Intellectual Property Office on Friday the 28th of December 2012 and registered the following working day that being Tuesday the 2nd of January 2013.
Apparently the accounts were not checked against the annual returns, which had they been, would have clearly shown that the “unaudited” accounts should not have been filed.
Again refer to section (9) of the Annual Returns, under the heading “Financial Statements”, Sam Commissiong has stated the following,
“That the assets of the company exceed $2,000,000.00” meaning that under St. Vincent company law the accounts for the company need to be audited.
Of course the Commercial and Intellectual Property Office in St. Vincent will state that they did not have any registered Annual Returns for Harlequin Property (SVG) Ltd on the date the “unaudited” accounts were filed and thus this they believe will exonerate them from any wrong doing.
But how can they explain that they registered accounts for 2009, 2010 and 2011 yet had not received any accounts for 2008, as is required under St. Vincent company law.
And then we have the very strange circumstances surrounding the issuing of the two “Certificates of status for Harlequin Property SVG issued on the 24th of February 2014. We wonder what phone calls were made that day?
If all the above happened in the UK or any other normal country there would be a major investigation into what appears to be massive incompetence or worse corruption on the part of organs of the state.
But we are talking about St. Vincent where the Government have stated that Buccament Bay is of “National Importance”.
But maybe Comrade Ralph should consider this as he enters his election months, Ames is being investigated for Fraudulent Activities in excess of EC$ 1,817,556,000.00 One Billion, Eight hundred and Seventeen Million, Five Hundred and Fifty Six Thousand EC Dollars, the amount that his so called “INVESTORS” have lost.
What kind of a legacy will this be for Comrade Ralph even more so that the integrity of organs of the State of St. Vincent are now being brought into question.
Will it really have been worth bending the laws of St. Vincent for a bent little conman from Essex. Will this instill confidence amongst future overseas investors and investment in St. Vincent, and will this not give the opposition and opponents of your regime huge ammunition against you in this your election year.
Unless you distance yourself from the little conman, you too Mr. Gosalves will become another victim of the Toxic Toad.
Barbados Free Press 
Might I respectfully suggest that the links to the documents be shortened using TinyURL.com or similar. They could then be opened or downloaded far quicker than ‘copy and paste.’
A bit quiet on this one then?
The calm before the storm …………………
Ames will be dead man walking when this falls over.
Funny RL have a secure forum for clients, yet when they asked for a vote on whether the Harlequin management should be retained or not they open the vote to all,
They are seeking a mandate, question is a mandate amongst whom?
Why not keep the vote to their clients?
RL have tweeted that they are shocked at the level of support for Harlequin Management, well what do you expect when you allow an open vote,
@ Rigged.
You know little, but assume a lot.
I am just stating fact and asking a question,
What a problem little legs has, sorry correction. What a problem the Ames family have along with the management of Harlequin.
They are shitting bricks 😉
Dave Ames has no need to shit bricks, he has done nothing wrong.
If the working class ‘keep up with the Jones’s merchants’ paid their balances or were credit worthy we would not be in this mess.
Go run along and buy some self help books, morons.
All like to slag off Ames, have any one of you lost your money?
Richard Ingham, just received a spelling lesson on the RL site.
Dyslexic twat.
Richard its not speltted lik thiz
pshycologist
It’s correct spelling is psychologist 🙂
@Richard Ingham, technically speaking I haven’ lost my money yet, but gave it up a long time ago.
So what are you saying Richard? Out of the 6000 “investors” there is not one hundred cash buyers? Or are you skirting over the deception of promised mortgages by the man that has done nothing wrong. Maybe it’s nothing to do with credit worthiness maybe it’s to do with the fact that Ames is a liar and they don’t trust him to lose anymore of their money.
De DA DE DA. Spelling police alert. Nothing to say but my English is dam good!
It’s a very sore point Mr. Ingham dyslexia. I’m not aware this illness makes people into the most objectionable person possible.
When he wakes up to the fact Ames, his ‘mate’ has stiffed him we will all have the last laugh.
Just having fun with the greedy investors that saw a deal too good to be true then blame everyone else when they lose their cash.
I could put my spell check on if it would make you happy,
Put your trust in RL and Gareth will make it all better!
Slipper Wearing Spaz the Spell Checker Salesman – Pay up and complete on your Cabana and stop breaking your contract, maybe if you got of your arse instead of claiming benefits you may be able to pay the balance?
before people start talking about breaking the terms of contracts isn’t it worth reminding ourselves of the contractual completion dates for these projects?
the great Mr Ames couldn’t complete projects as the greedy peasant investors did not cough up their balances so the cash was bound to run out
Does anyone know when the Crozier lawsuit picks up again. My
money is still on them bringing the whole caboodle down…
According to i-witness-news svg water restrictions between evening and
morning have been instituted between Buccament and Calliagua, (this
includes all of Kingstown). I wonder if the “elite” clientele of BB
will be included or if Dr. Gonsalves will give them dispensation even
though they have not paid one red cent in reparation. Politics can
lead to some really twisted logic.
Latest reports say Argyle Airport have failed important compression tests on the runway..It is felt that this will delay opening by several months..late 2015…perhaps 2016? Oh Oh..those darn Vincentians/Cubans/Venezuelans, have caused BB to suffer terrible losses, because by now direct jets should be filling the resort with guests!
Time for some nice music to start the day, what do you think Dave?
Latest update from Harlequin. Read, mark and inwardly digest as you will be tested on this later.
Dear Investor,
In light of recent events, we wish to assure all investors that the Trust will go ahead, although it has become clear that this will have to be pursued without Regulatory Legal’s (“R Legal”) involvement.
As you may have noticed, relations between Harlequin and R legal have deteriorated in recent weeks. Previously our positions seemed to be aligned and the working relationship with them was productive, but unfortunately this is no longer the case.
We have had a year to reorganise our business and work with R Legal in an effort to move matters forward. The business is the strongest it has been for some time and, as you know, we are in advanced discussions with financiers linked with a global hotel management company. I cannot go into it any further at present, but I will, of course, keep you updated as negotiations progress to the extent I am allowed.
As you know, we worked closely with and supported R Legal with regards to the Trust and asked you in good faith to pay £200 plus VAT to them to set the Trust up. To quote from our January 2014 update that was approved by R Legal:
“We strongly recommend that you pay your money to R Legal now to avoid further delay in the
set-up of the Trust and as a show of solidarity……as all entrance fees are refundable if the Trust doesn’t go ahead.”
Harlequin has no doubt whatsoever that R Legal’s latest scare tactic – that the security in St Vincent cannot be granted due to the threat of liquidation – is a purposeful misconstruing of the facts and nothing more than a weak attempt to frighten and manipulate investors. Harlequin has the respect of its advisors and the government in St Vincent and has been assured that the security can be granted and will be perfectly valid. Harlequin will repel any attempts by R Legal to liquidate any of the companies. Liquidation will not come to fruition if most investors join the Trust.
Regrettably, it seems that all R Legal are now focused on is fees from Harlequin’s investors.
Broadly speaking, there appear to be two choices. The first is to proceed with the Trust that R Legal has clearly lost interest in (whether they were interested in the first place is a moot point). If we decide to go down this route, we will cease to engage with R Legal and therefore will expect a barrage of hostility that we will fight with investor support.
When the route transpires, I suggest you write to R Legal demanding the firm returns the £200 plus VAT payments collected from you, as they would have clearly obtained this money under false pretences. An investor has informed us that R Legal has committed to considering refunds. You should also be asking them for confirmation that they are not using the money you have paid for their own ends or to fight redress claims for a few investors.
Harlequin has been in a position for a number of months to proceed with the Trust and it is our intention to shortly send out a fully executed Trust Document and Waiver for you to sign up and join the Trust. We will not be charging for this, as most of the work has been carried out already by us and other lawyers. All we will be charging is the yearly fee of £50 that R Legal was going to charge for the administration and general operation of the Trust. The sum will be paid into a separate Trustee bank account if possible.
With regards to the due diligence, we will supply a truthful, accurate response over the next few weeks, as we have always been prepared to do, and I repeat this was never a condition of the Trust. I am happy to be open with everyone as to the position of the business. The most important aspect to remember is that all of the assets I offered at investor meetings last year will go into the Trust; I have never varied from this or sought to change Harlequin’s position and I view this as key.
Let’s be very clear regarding the two options you have:
Option 1
Sign up to the Trust. We have a hotel management company ready to move forward. We have a number of financial institutions we are working with to develop Harlequin’s projects, which includes the possibility of 70% mortgages to investors. Let’s be extremely clear here, the success of Buccament Bay and blu, St Lucia with the travel companies and holidaymakers is a major attraction for financial institutions to invest in Harlequin.
Trust documents can go out once amended to take account of R Legal’s lack of involvement.
Option 2
This is R Legal’s option but what does this mean for the investor? What R Legal may be looking to do is place Harlequin companies into liquidation as this is the only way they will make money out of their continued involvement. This will mean that every investor is likely to lose virtually everything.
Their plan is to carry out redress claims. It is true that some investors were given bad advice by IFAs but Harlequin cannot be blamed for that. I believe that R Legal is looking for the vast majority of investors to lose everything so they can carry out redress claims for a few investors.
Please don’t be drawn into such a poor choice. R Legal can’t run hotels, can’t build what Harlequin has built and certainly won’t be able to achieve what is necessary going forward. R Legal have come up with precisely no plans to take the business forward.
The above two options are your only choices. You should not be taken in by R Legal because they don’t have the investors’ interests at heart if judged by their recent actions, but we do. Only SIPP investors would have possible redress claims under R Legal whereas cash investors would not. They seem to be looking to damage both the Harlequin business and investments principally for their own financial gain.
Harlequin has tried its best to work in good faith with R Legal and find a way forward, but this spirit of openness is not reciprocated by R Legal at present. R Legal stated that Harlequin could take as long as it wanted to prepare the response to the due diligence; then they said it had to be next week despite acknowledging it will take time to receive information from abroad. R Legal said they would pay for third party solicitor firm Pitmans’ second opinion on the Trust document (this was stated in an R Legal update dated 16th December 2013); then, after the work was carried out, they said they would not. We could provide many more examples.
In conclusion, may I remind you that the situation we are in today has been caused in part by R Legal. They took the now discredited Panorama team over to St Vincent and spread reports about the SFO investigating Harlequin before the investigation became public – this, we believe, forced the SFO’s hand. We tried to work with them for the greater good but sadly this seems to have failed. We are therefore happy to go it alone with our investors, not least as we are in a far stronger position now than we were a year ago.
Best regards,
Dave Ames
Chairman
And RL’s erudite response:
Summarised as “all RL’s fault”.
However :-
We have not received the responses to our interim due diligence report.
* We have not received permission to use James Bakers figures breaking down the spend per resorts.
* We have not received evidence of any finance.
* We have not received the future plan.
* We have not received anything contradicting that Harlequin Management Services (South East) Limited received £200m commission from the £400m invested.
* We know that an investor handed over £100k+ to complete on land which Harlequin has not registered properly.
* We know that other investors have handed money over to complete and as yet have received nothing in return.
* We have not received the accounts for Buccament Bay. We feel that the only monies keeping the resort running is new investor monies (eg capital).
* We have not found any evidence of a “guaranteed” mortgage, even though 90%+ of people cannot complete without one.
* We have not received anything from Harlequin contradicting the statement from James Baker where he says (in the Davies & others case) that the assets of each Resort Development Company are exceeded by the liabilities. Eg balance sheet insolvent.
We admit that Harlequin wanted this to go through with every investor waiving their rights for 5 years.
However, this was to be done based on the security being as set out. It is not. For that reason, we are have sought a mandate to put a counter offer. This we are going to do if we get that mandate.
Harlequin want you to become so desperate you will accept anything. We are here to prevent you from doing that. If we take flak, then so be it.
RL need to bring this to a close now (liquidate). There is just too much in the Ames drivel to spend time divulging it. It’s a mess.
I what I *would* say is the trust was RL’s idea to get the company back in line, as without that, a CVA would not be possible. Without a CVA, the whole lot falls in. Harlequin did not propose the trust; RL did. The fact Harlequin are continuing with it is a bemusement to me – what benefit does a “trust” give investors over, say, creating a central Harlequin company which will have all the inter-company debt, and the investors hold a share depending on their contribution.
I don’t think Ames appreciates the implications of people signing up for the trust. If people sign up, it means they cannot sue him for 5 years; and also say anything bad against Harlequin. Free speech? Build schedule?
The facts, as RL have professionally pointed out:
– Harlequin is insolvent (according to their expert witness)
– The company is being investigated by the SFO, Essex Police & has been subject of several FCA updates recommending investors NOT invest any more money into the group of companies.
– 1000’s of investors have received nothing (and likely will for several years if things continue like this)
– Absolutely no transparency with financial information regarding the company. “Investors” need to know the health of the investment, so action can be taken to improve it.
– Where is the letter of intent Ames had in October last year? Another lie?
This pattern is starting to seem familiar. The “bad guys” are out to get Ames again. Out to give him grief. He’s just trying to run a business you know! Wouldn’t be surprised to see litigation against RL next – defamation, professional negligence etc etc.
I won’t be visiting their hotels. Neither will my family. Or their friends. Or their friends.
The above posts are in very bad taste, Dave Man was in a very serious car accident about 4 hrs ago, and is in a critical condition.
Let’s hope GF has put the £240 in an Escrow account. What will the Lemmings think of this? Of course GF could tell the cash investors how they were going to get redress. That is if he knew.
Respected SVG lawyer say’s do not complete on Buccament Bay Posted by xxxxxx xxxxxx on June 4, 2014 at 9:13pm
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 04/06/2014 18:28:49
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Buccament Bay :
For the attention of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi XXXXX, Please refrain from investing in Buccament Bay. We have several judgments against them.
Sent from my iPad On Jun 4, 2014, at 6:22 AM, “xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com” wrote:
Good Morning xxxxx, Do you have any news?
Regards, xxx xxx
——-Original Message——-
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 01/06/2014 21:28:01
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Buccament Bay : For the attention of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Dear Paul,I will advise on same tomorrow
Sent from my iPad On Jun 1, 2014, at 2:34 PM,
xxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello xxxxxxxxxx, I ‘invested’ in Cabana 105, Buccament Bay, it’s built and ready to complete. I need an independent opinion if this is a sensible choice. Apparently, one person has completed at Buccament Bay, I don’t actually believe that based on Mr. Ames history of telling not the truth.
Based on my findings I find it unlikely that it’s a good idea to complete, no escrow account,questionable title, charges on the land etc. The problem is further compounded trying to find a legal firm who is not compromised or have no authority to advise in SVG.
Williams and Williams seem too close to Harlequin The UK solicitor just act as a go between to Williams and Williams Regulatory Legal have released an interim Due Diligence report and frankly Harlequin, looks insolvent I don’t believe a word Mr. Ames says I hope you can understand my dilemma. Please let me know how much this would cost, I’m not looking for a huge piece of work just your thought and opinion.
Kind regards, xxxxxx
Oooops Paul stirring it above , Paul Walton perhaps?,Fatchett’s legal secretary, very defamatory statements Paul,
We just love these letters, and we especially love the last one 🙂 🙂 😉
So Heritage who ever they are aside from being “Pension Administrators” thieves more like, are basically stating that their client will get a refund once Ames is in funds to do so, listen to this, this is contingent on funds coming in from successful litigation and completions, lol what a fucking joke, successful litigation???????? lol What about all the litigation you have lost you fucking idiot Ames lol,
So much for all the funds obtained through litigation being pumped back into business, oh yeah your business is litigation,
Harlequin, Insolvent??? Absolutely, Heritage????, well they are just ass covering scum……..
Love the address for Heritage, lol who would trust these clowns with their money eh?????
6 Doolittle Mill, Froghall Road, ………………………………………
https ://anonfiles dot com/file/ed93937edfea8770e9986d8f01ae53c4
https ://anonfiles dot com/file/b782aea169848e586591c3870eba0a06
https ://anonfiles dot com/file/a3e1a0d27aa651b022527833c3b30657
Let’s take a vote. Who is surprised that HP and RL have reached a state of deadlock? I can’t imagine there isn’t one person out there that didn’t see this coming.
Would that be the same Paul Walton who approached Panorama initially? The same Paul Walton who was giving a radio interview about HP to the local radio? The same Paul Walton who initially approached RL to get involved? Has Paul Walton been the tail wagging the RL dog? Has GF been played to satisfy a personal vendetta?
Well put AtC.
RL won’t come up with any solutions that benefit anybody but themselves.They are only interested in SIPPs and neglect the cash investors, .No one has any idea what Harlequin will do or not do next they are too slippery for RL and their lapdog Walton to handle.
Walton is just like Broughton, another idiot……. 🙂
I see RL are loosing control. 🙂
https ://anonfiles dot com/file/82ebdf80131d0f707926b9c3b94724ac
Yes very eloquently put. Nice use of the F and C word. Says it all.
Time for some themed music…
Fatchips has a Masonic obligation to Walton – He has no choice.
Oooooohh so we have the HP trolls back. This time the target is, wait for it
SURPRISE
RL
The Guardian has just implemented a Secure Drop system for whistle blowers to safely send them confidential documents. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/guardian-launches-securedrop-whistleblowers-documents
I wonder if they might like to conclude unfinished business?
Simon Terry is the leak.
When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber – Winston Churchill
“Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so few to so many ‘
Well everyone must make their minds up about whether the RL or the HP story has the ring of truth about it. Having copies of documents bearing official government seals does seem to swing it in my mind in favour of RL The counter argument seems to be based on ‘we’re about to do this, we have financiers in the wings…’ Does this really wash without documents to back the story up? It is true to say that we have heard many claims like this in the past and they have all amounted to a row of beans. Any one remember Caldora? What happened to Oasis who were the hoteliers that added so much to the brand?
As I say it is up to everyone to look at the situation and make up their own minds. Would be good to hear the arguments and evidence in favour of both sides of the fence.
Hello anon. My vote is with RL and I am impressed by the hard stance they are now taking against HP. They’re a year too late IMO, but better late than never I suppose. It is time for definite action as things have dragged on for far too long now and if Ames has his way they will drag on further for years to come. His only alternative is to face the music and he won’t want to do that. I think RL will force his hand now and I get a definite sense that we will soon see real action being taken…..finally.
Dave’s new song, is that Bob Lidil singing?
Agreed. But the HP strategy is now to ask investors to jump into the Trust without the DD being complete and if enough people jump then this could keep spin things out longer.
Interesting point about the trust waiver. I understand that this would prevent a trust member from seeking legal redress for a period of 5 years. Presumably this would not preclude an investor taking action against their SIPP adviser who then in turn (or their PI insurer) take action against HP.
Your investors don’t love you anymore Dave…..
Surely in order to join the trust you would need solid legal advice and due diligence? Isn’t that the role RL are trying to play? Are HP saying that the DD won’t be complete because RL are being too demanding and that investors should join the trust regardless? That sounds very irresponsible to me.
RL isn’t being too demanding – they’re asking for the information which investors want anyway.
If the company were publicly traded, they would need to publish financial statements each quarter. They do this because it gives investors a clear indication of the company’s health, which will then reflect their decision to invest or not.
Harlequin’s “smoke and mirrors” strategy is yet another smokescreen. If they had any morality, they’d publish their numbers for everyone to see. As yet, this has not been forthcoming.
Do you really think Harlequin has a financier? David Ames said he had a letter of intent in the meetings in October. A lie. If he had one, he could have sent a scanned image of the letter with important (“confidential”) information blanked out – like how the US government does it.
David Ames said he owned the land, but it’s now apparent there are a multitude of encumbrances on that land, which will make it very difficult to pass title to the people who Harlequin is now demanding money from. Only a fool would proceed without taking legal advice, or seeing the whole picture of Harlequin.
I’m highly surprised Harlequin have not provided an alternative set of DD from Pitmans. This would at least quash any claims RL have that they have not been provided with the correct information.
Amateurs.
Just found the following from last night June 5, 2014 at 6:54 pm, I thought that the RL site was secure so why are RL allowing members disclose posts? What game is really being played????
https ://anonfiles dot com/file/82ebdf80131d0f707926b9c3b94724ac
If the letter of intent was all lies, then why did GF say he had seen it? Are you implying GF tells lies? Heaven forbid.
Why is the web page not available, I cut and paste it, closed the gap between the s and the :// but no joy. Any answers?
Fatchett has led his merry acolytes down a dead end. He is as bad as Ames, now the masses on the RL forum are calling for intervention by the SFO. Lol it’s really a bit late for that now.
You probably forgot to replace the word “dot” with”.”
https://anonfiles.com/file/82ebdf80131d0f707926b9c3b94724ac
Link works fine, looks like Mr. Ingham has been a naughty boy, he is stirring it up here and over on the RL forum, looks like he might be the leak, well well…..
Perhaps the masses want the SFO to investigate GF?
Regarding the supposed e-mails that went between someone called Paul and a solicitor in SVG.on June 5th. It mentions Cabana 105 and is addressed to Paul. According to the Deed of Assignments of Contracts released on here a while ago (the list of purchasers and their date of purchase) Paul does not own 105. 105 is owned by a couple of ladies. (are they that nice couple from Liverpool I wonder?) To me this proves the e-mail trail is fictitious. Just like a lot of the junk on here.
A couple of ladies eh. Sounds like 105 is the cabana to be in!
I met them Sid, scared the shit out of me.
Anyway on a more serious note. Taken from the RL blog.
Jonathan Edward Payne June 4th 2014 at 7.12 pm
Hi Joanne, if its any consolation my wife and I feel exactly the same about wanting everything back that we’ve invested as I’m sure so do a lot of others Not sure what your circumstances are – all I know is that I am paying back £24k over the next 7 years on a loan we took out to finance our deposit ………………………We are hoping there will be a redress option on this site this week that may help up.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors>Jonathan Edward Payne – June 4th at 10.15pm.
Jonathan there will be a redress option.
Well RL you have a redress option for a cash buyer? When are you going to share this with your followers? Always info tomorrow. You sound just like Ralph did with his “all will be revealed tomorrow”
I hope Jonathan is reading this and has his answer. But there again I am not a betting person.
@ Its all in the Sipps 3.25 pm…Could it be that cabana 105 was “sold” to more than one investor? And please do not say that the unit is “owned” by a couple of ladies..its owned by Harlequin (SVG)Ltd and David Ames.That is until the ladies complete the sale and get legal title…until then we shall just call them “possible owners”
“Owned” as in they own the contract. Will that do you. Don’t start this project Orange shit again.
It looks like Ingham is behind the leaks…..
https://anonfiles.com/file/82ebdf80131d0f707926b9c3b94724ac
Mr. Ames is getting copies of the forum posts every day in the format below so he knows exactly whats going on,
To its All in the SIPPs you said this “To me this proves the e-mail trail is fictitious. Just like a lot of the junk on here.”
The page below is from the RL forum.
https://anonfiles.com/file/60aaa0bec31963052fe10a783793f8f4
Shear gold. Sums up the true position of GF and PW.
Does Paul Walton`s contract say he purchased cabana 105…if so, either the story about the two ladies is wrong, or the cabana was sold twice….which of course would be a fraudulent.act.
Or the document could be false.
After reading the downloads I am convinced the only hope for
St Vincent & the Grenadines is a full scale invasion by the
Royal Marines. Man-oh-man that island needs to start all over
from scratch.
Does anyone know how many other investors have bought cabana 105?
From St Vincent I witness news , June 4th.
The Central Water & Sewerage Authority (CWSA) on Wednesday said it is expanding both the areas and hours of water rationing as the continuing drought conditions have reduced to about 30 per cent production at the Dalaway, Majorca and Montreal systems.
The rationing will include all areas between Buccament and Calliaqua, including Kingstown and its environs, Arnos Vale, Belair, Gomea, Dauphine, the Marriaqua valley and some areas in the south-east of the island, the company said.
I wonder if BB resort has back up water supply for guests…if not those plunge pools will come in handy!
5 star service at BB…not really!
From Tripadvisor….”The expresso machines in all rooms weren’t useable as they have no coffee pods… you are expected to use nescafe instant coffee!! Disappointingly at breakfast, again it’s instant coffee”
…”and watch out for some bloke from the drama school wandering around drunk and smoking in your face making comments about you and your family! Clearly unacceptable.”
Not the first time this little problem has been mentioned on TA.
Was there a travel agent/freeloaders trip over half term? Just wondering who’s writing all those glowing reviews.
Woah I’m up for that. Dave I’ve been working so hard for the last year, give me and the family a freebie and we will provide four glowing TA reviews spread out over a month. You don’t have to worry about the coffee we’ll bring our own. Contact me at ivenointegrity@rippedoff.com
“Finally, not to miss the departure tax you pay to the hotel $20 a head!”
Is that a bit odd? I thought it was $EC40 departure tax at the AIRPORT.
OMG a bad review on TA!. Quick quick get some positive ones to push it down.
Perhaps Bequia P has finally visited the hotel?
Bob Storey is back as “it’s all in the SIPPS” …..same pro Harlequin , anti GF stories…thinks he knows everything about cabana ownership at BB….a pitiful character for sure.
Who the hell is Bequia P ?
Sportingman, or BobStorey over on TA forums has an ongoing battle with Bequia P about the disparate reviews of BB on TripAdvisor. His last salvo was that BB has just won an Award from Trip Advisor . This Award is the Award of Excellence which has been given to THOUSANDS of hotels and resorts in the Caribbean. They are only given to places with consistently high reviews. That’s why very investor , who benefits from a freebie trip to BB poster such glowing reviews, many of which are repetitive and seemingly written or scripted by the same PR agent. Did it make it to one of the top Resorts or Hotels in the Caribbean on TA this year. Of course not. But it “won an award”….what a joke!
And the award for business of the year for managing the fantastic sales figure of £400 million goes to the multitude number of complex organisations known as Harlequin Property. Roar and the crowd goes wild.
They also managed a second award for the absolutely amazing achievement of producing £0 profit and £0 returns for investors from the £400 million. Roar and some of the crowd goes wild and wants to string the the little bastard up.
An example of what TA “Certificate of Excellence 2014 Award ” is all about.
A tiny canteen beach shack called Cuzs in Barbados just got that same award ! All he serves are marlin fish sandwiches with or without cheese and egg, at a very low price . They are also delicious and many tourists and locals go there every day for lunch . So I am not saying anything bad about the place or food or service….I just want to put it out there that a TA Award of Excellence that Harlequin boasts about on their blog, and that Sportingman ( Bob Storey) boasts about is really no big thing! Literally thousands are awarded every year to Hotels and resorts in the Caribbean .
Of all the outstanding quality restaurants in Barbados, Cuzs is also ranked number 7 on TA, according to the number of 5 star reviews it received . Another beach shack called Mr Delicious is also in the top rankings on TA restaurants in Barbados …this is a converted bus with basic drinks and eats such as hot dogs and rotis .
TA reviews can be useful, but I for one take their Certificate of Excellence Awards with a big grain of salt, as I do when I read the over the top reviews for BB.
From trip Advisor forums. Apparently some investors are getting returns.
93. Re: Why are reviews re Buccament Bay so disparate?
02 June 2014, 21:40
TracyLondon_UK (26 forum posts)
London, UK
Thank you for quoting me Bequia P. I am an investor with Harlequin who put everything on the line for this investment as did my partner. We are getting our returns and more incl owners holidays each yr so it would be best that if you are not an investor or have not been to BB that you cease to comment on what you seem to know so little about.
As ivesaid before… Please go to BB to appreciate all that it has to offer, namely a fantastic hol resort that is great value for money.
Propaganda at work
94. Re: Why are reviews re Buccament Bay so disparate?
03 June 2014, 13:59
SvgAlan (89 forum posts)
Sheffield, United Kingdom
As an x ifa I feel I should comment on bequia ps post.
At the moment no one has lost there pensions .some investors feel that the monies they invested are at risk and may be worth less than they paid in.the type of investment they entered into is clearly of a higher risk and less liquid than normal fca regulated investments.the investors new this when they entered into the contract.if they didn’t know then they have an issue with the advisers not with harlequin.
As and when the investigations into harlequin are completed if the investors if left out of pocket ,they potentially can get redress if they were wrongly advised.all financial advisers have to carry indemnity insurance against which the client can claim if the advice given was not suitable for a number of reasons.
Having said this, all this is in know way related to the running of the resort .and trying to link the two is only likely to increase the risk of losses to persons that bequia p is so valiantly trying to protect.
Perverse logic to say the least.
Edited: Jun 03, 2014, 9:02 AM
Anon 1:25 What has any of what you just wrote to do with
disparate TA reviews? Talk about “perverse logic”
Looks like the anti HP trolls are skulking about any forum now to fill their day in. Common you lot, no new “revelations” to post. Nothing on a shopping blog to report on?
The proof of completion from Ames, As usual all is not as it seems, here Ames is redefining property sales in the Caribbean.
We just have to wonder “WHAT” independent lawyer would have allowed clause 3 and 4 on page 3 of the attached “Completion” document to remain,
Just surprised that Fatchett has not picked up on this, yet again Fatchett fails to pick up on most things, The Devil is in the detail Garreth ; )
In a nutshell, At 3 above, even if you complete on your “Freehold” property with Ames and Co. you can only resell your property through Ames and co at any time in the future, God only knows what kind of “Commission” Ames and Co. will charge for this…………
At 4 it gets worse, You cannot sell your property for less then you paid for it….. even if the resort is worth a fart in a high wind and you want to cut your losses and run, well sorry mate, you cant.
https://anonfiles.com/file/e771978d1bf00b1e97eeddadbc0f23aa
@anon 2.20
That was part of svgalans post on ta
@Anon 12.29…you mean this admitted Investor Tracy London`s fantastic review of her investment at BB? How honest can this be?
Sitting in the airport waiting to fly back to London after another fantastic week at Buccament Bay.
Everything was still as perfect as on our last few visits.
The villas are incredible. You are surrounded by luxury good quality amenities in the bedroom and bathroom.
The restaurants are superb. Loved Saffron, the boutique indian with the most exquisite dishes, nothing like the indian takeaway at home!
Jacks restaurant is very classy and serves fabulous steaks and sides.
More informal is the Beach Bay for lunches and dinner. Try the sushi at lunchtime especially the tempura shrimp!
Must mention the excellent gym facilities that we both used at 6am daily and the fabulous HQ coffee shop where we ate muffins and macaroons and put all of our hard gym work to waste!!
I think the thing that crowns it all is the staff that are employed there. They all share a passion and a personal pride of the resort and want so much for you to have that “special experience” there.
I have to thank the following staff for being absolutely outstanding… Kirit and Shauna (front office) Brod and Chanelle (breakfast and Bay lunch), our wonderful maids for villa 2004, Creese and Carlisle (our drivers to and from the airpirt) and all the HQ staff for making the perfect Earl Grey tea!
We are already planning our next trip.
Sadly the one downside is the flight from Barbados to Saint Vincent. There were terrible delays (as is quite normal apparantly) and our luggage didnt arrive at the resort untill the next day.
Thanks again everyone for making it another perfect week in paradise. X
Stayed May 2013
@try sky
“anti hp troll” is that a euphemism for pissed off ripped off fraud victim.
Sign seen in the Villas at BBay –
Due to low water pressure please flush twice,
its a long way to Jacks’.
Here’s something interesting from way back in 2009……..
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g147379-i1174-k2263761-o30-Harlequin_Property_Buccament_A_place_in_the_sun-St_Vincent_and_the_Grenadines.html#19637899
47. Re: Harlequin Property – Buccament – A place in the sun
08 December 2009, 19:15
Hi. This is interesting reading for me as I visited Harlequin Head Offices today. Before today when i first found out about the Buccament Bay development and the others they are now proposing (St Lucia, 3 in Dominian Republic, Brazil etc) i was quite impressed and looking forward to my visit today. However, on seeing photos of the properties they have now started to build in Buccament Bay, they looked awful! I would be absolutely distraught if i had invested my money in one of these. They are right on top of a river – and i mean, literally 5 feet from the river. The materials look cheap and it looks like a glorified Butlins! I also was concerned about the fact they have now decided to split this development into 2 phases – to me, reeking of oh, we couldn’t get enough investors initially, so now split into 2 phases – i am a property investor in the UK and am happy to take risks but only calculated ones, and I’m afraid having done my research thoroughly, this does not seem a good one! The prices seem massively inflated so worries about remortgaging at the end, plus of course Mr Ames has to get the investors on board before he can put a spade in the mud – therefore, not enough investors, no buillding will start – hence i suspect why many early investors have seen “delays” for all sorts of reasons. I am not saying these are a dodgy company, but the idea will only work once there are the correct number of investors, and i thinkk in this current climate, Harlequin will struggle to get the investors to build the resorts, hence many people (as it seems already) will be left with invested money doing nothing for many years, with no prospect of getting it back……..
What a shame this talented guy was not allowed to join the BB management team for GBP 10,000 per month..He could have turned things around overnight.
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/11101423.Vince_Cable_and_victims_of_fraudster_eyeing_his_luxury___700_000_home/
@anon 4.35 “pro HP troll” is that a euphemism for happy contented investor. Lol
@Anon 11.47. Am I an owner now in BB now? Wow have you become mystic Meg?
All quiet,
Is robert Storey actually a real person ? I thought perhaps the harlequin team just write drivel under the name of robert storey, in an attempt to drown out any real discussion.
Storey just took a beating on the TA forum.
I now realise what I posted on TA was incorrect and wish to appologise. It is not against house rules for an investor to post about a visit.
Oh Bobby was that painful, you are too easy.
Investor? Surely you mean purchaser, after all it was for freehold property in the contracts wasn’t it. Ergo part owners of the hotel they are posting reviews of. Tut tut
Anon 7.54 if that was aimed at me I do not have a clue what you are prattling on about. Are you sure you are not dribbling on your keyboard?
Who is impersonating Realitychecks here? That stunt has been pulled before when posters have stated facts HP trolls don’t like. On the last two occasions I saw it was BS Bob. Is it him again? Why doesn’t he post it on TA? Oh no he can’t can he because it’s against TA rules so he posts it here like the nasty bitchy little coward he is.
Realitychecks
June 8, 2014 at 7:28 pm
I now realise what I posted on TA was incorrect and wish to appologise. It is not against house rules for an investor to post about a visit.
Part owners of a Hotel or Resort have no right to post reviews of their property on TA. Of course TA would not know which of their reviewers are also owners..How many are there. Anyone’s guess.
Cabana 105 was listed in letters Walton sent to Harlequin, they are on the RL blog – looks like Ames has sold it more than once?
Lets be clear, if the units never complete how do you prove double selling?
Of course………… we have had 1 completion and it;s in the name of Richard Ingham or is it Bob?
Or maybe it could be Tracey London, ‘who put everything on the line for this investment as did my partner. We are getting our returns and more incl owners holidays each yr.’
Or maybe all three of them own Cabana 105. Mind you, for all they know 105 investors could own the same cabana.
@Anon 10.58, Tracy said quite clearly she was an investor and getting a return. TA would have seen this and have allowed her posts to remain. I think TA will know their house rules better that others on here.
Baseldon needs to fact check the TA posts a bit better. Read in the
last two posts that (a) dive facilities were closed due to an insurance
issue and (b) enjoyed reef diving with Indigo. Both guests stayed at
the same time. Its gotta be one or the other……..
@Read the TA rules..The rules are clear….The Tracy, the owner of a cabana, did not say she was an investor when she made her review of BB,otherwise TA might not have published it…that was revealed several months later only on a TA Forum on BB, where she said she was an investor.Understand the difference between a forum and a review?
At Anonymous 7.10 pm…Who said both guests stayed at the same time?..their posts only say that they stayed May 2014.One guest was lucky and the place was open, the other reported that the place was closed when they were at the resort..why would they say so if it were not so? Why the big defense?It wouldn’t be the first time Indigo has closed for a few days, for whatever reason.
TA don’t do anything until it is reported
Anon 7:21 I have nothing to be defensive about. On the other hand
H-trolls just might
Exactly!
@Anon 7.10. I suggest you look at the title at the top of the post. She was giving an honest opinion to the continual biased posts from Beguia P. The lady from Indigo Dive posted an updated and factual response to the report about the injured diver. Are you saying that isn’t allowed because she owns it? Of course she can in the same way that Tracy can give her opinion.
@Read the TA rules. Anonymous 6:33 and 7:10pm
It’s bullshit Robot Story Sportingman posting again innit?
Shill on Bob, everyone is having a right good laugh at your witless posts.
Why don’t you post on TA? Go on you scardy-cat.
BB is the best resort I have ever visited. 6 star pure luxury, It is brilliant best service ever. Honest
@ non Anon no other Anon, not even Anon. TA Not even close, no cigar.
@ Read the TA rules 7 44 pm…Bequia P is not reviewing BB…A review of a property on TA is totally different to comments made on a BB Forum.For example, you can contribute to a discussion on a forum, without ever having stayed at the property being discussed. However, you are not allowed to make a review of a property that you did not visit. Have a cup of tea and relax Bob.
Sportingman, AKA ..FDNRM, AKA… Robert Storey continues to spout crap on TripAdvisor Forum about the disparate reviews of BB on TA..A good and humble servant .
How desperate are RL to get their trust up and running. Now they are claiming that HP are, due to some info from an insurance broker, being refused insurance cover. No proof, no evidence or confirmation from HP. Of course if this is the case then this proves that HP have had insurance all along. Funny how you didn’t post that bit of info Fatchett isn’t it. But now you have confirmed it.
@ It’s all in the SIPPs
Er, no. That’s not what RL said at all. Their update actually reads as follows:
All,
Our market intelligence is very good. We have many IFA firms who assist us. Today, one of our good contacts, told us that the leading financial services network Sesame Bankhall Group ( http://www.sbg.co.uk/Pages/SBG-Home.aspx ) have excluded Harlequin Property investments from their professional insurance at this renewal.
SBG are a leading firm with 11,000 advisers. That is a large slug of the market. What we do know is that insurance underwriters follow each other. This leads to only one conclusion eg advice in relation to Harlequin will soon be in the main uninsured. No cover.
* We have written to all SIPP investors last Friday / this Monday. We will be publishing our redress options for direct investors / re-mortgage investors on the 13th June 2014.
We need investors to focus on redress and the time constraints this news presents. The trust process will be on going with negotiations and more twists and turns. Do not be distracted by the trust and allow your redress claim to be prejudiced. After all, our contact with investors tell us that a significant number simply want their money back.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
What they are talking about is NOT whether or not Harlequin itself carries insurance but whether insurance is/will be available to IFAs and the like. Not the same thing at all. Do try to keep up!
Thomas Levy, does this mean their professional indemnity won’t cover any redress claims? What’s the deal with it in terms of redress?
Yes you are quite right, I thought it was referring to HP insurance directly. Thank you for correcting me.
If an insurance policy is active at the time the activity for which a claim
is made then the insurance is in effect.
@ Anonymous 17:16 & 17:39
The ABI states that PI cover works on a claims made basis – i.e. if a claim is made while cover is in effect, it’s insured. If it’s made after, tough. See https://www.abi.org.uk/Insurance-and-savings/Products/Business-insurance/Liability-insurance/Professional-indemnity-insurance at the “Conditions of your cover” section.
Assuming this is right, any claims regarding duff advice need to be lodged urgently so that they are made when the relevant products are covered. Leave it a few months, and the risk won’t be covered, so any claim will fail.
@ Thomas Levy
You are quite correct. I used to have PI insurance and when I decided I didn’t need it any more because I had ceased to practice, I was told that I had to continue to pay a premium to protect the work that had already been undertaken and completed. Any claim made for previous advice would not be protected by the PI insurance simply because the policy had been in place at the time the advice was given.
Kinda looks like..IFA are gonna be stuffed….continue to pay for insurance, so as covered for HP claims even if they not practising as an ifa…..assuming cover will be offered that is…..or take a chance and lose yr house etc as no insurance
don’t look to good do it, shame for few good ones, and good riddance for the greedy majority who jumped on the gravy train.
Thanks Thomas.
In terms of the SIPP clients, what does this development mean? Basically get your claim in quick? I thought the FSCS was there to provide a fallback if the insurer cops out?
How can the insurer just drop the Harlequin coverage?
@ Anonymous 20:15
It means claims need to be lodged as soon as possible – before the IFA has to renew PI cover. It’s at that point that there is a risk their policy will exclude Harlequin. If Harlequin products are excluded then there will be no insurer to pay out any compensation.
The FSCS is, in effect, cover of the last resort. They’ll step in (up to £85,000 per person) once there is no other avenue left. This means that potential claimants will have had to go after the IFA personally first, I think, before being able to ask the FSCS to pay out. Still, if the IFA has gone bust already, then the FSCS should stump up.
As to what insurers can and can’t do, they are in business to make a profit. No one wants to insure a risk where it’s pretty much guaranteed you’ll have to pay out many, many times the premium taken. That’s just not commercial.
There is one other fly in the ointment, as it were. If I recall correctly, the insurers who covered TailorMade recently declined to admit any Harlequin-related claims. I’m guessing that TM acted outside the areas they were covered for or omitted a material fact when filling in the proposal form. I’d expect more insurers to try to duck claims if at all possible seeing as they’ll be facing perhaps £200 million in potential payouts.
Thomas – the FSCS cover for IFAs in default would be £50k (£85k is for deposits).
@ Anonymous 21.00
Many thanks for that. I stand corrected.
Thomas- Will the indemnity insurance cover cash investors who have used an unregulated financial adviser?
@ PJ
If the advisor carries suitable insurance cover, I presume that a claim could be made. But I’d be very surprised if they did. So the only recourse would be to sue them directly.
Thanks again Thomas!
I’m eager to see how RL play this. I’m waiting to get my SIPP claim sorted out (they’re taking forever). I sincerely hope they get it sorted out
@ Anonymous 06.55
Glad to have helped. Good luck with your claim. I guess the upside is that, having instructed RL, if they’ve missed the boat for lodging the claim. you can always sue them…
@Thomas Levy
RL are right to point this out. Maybe it will finally stop people waiting for Ames to rescue things.
Make a claim.
Have I missed something. Is there talk of a possible redress option for cash buyers?
People have no idea the ‘dark forces’ that are working behind the scenes to bring Harlequin and the Ames family down.
This is a coordinated, international operation, special skills, and contacts are required.
We find it amusing Aimless has no idea what’s going on, and who is pulling the strings.
Sid, don’t hold your breath on that one. It will be too much like hard work for RL. A nice easy £30m for chasing SIPP redress. Yes that will do nicely. Now the other lemmings, sorry cash investors, who gave GF £240 who think they stand a chance of getting a refund, no chance.of course if GF does not have a viable plan for them has £240 been taken by misrepresentation? Perhaps Birmingham plod need to speak to Essex plod?
@ It’s all in the SIPPs
I reckon you’re right. The SIPP redress (and claims against any regulated introducer) is all that RL have ever really wanted. There’s no cash left to pay back anyone – and even if there were, it’s needed as working capital to keep the business going. Unless, that is, everyone wants Blu & BB to close down and kill off the only active hotels.
RL are promising all will be revealed tomorrow (Friday 13th). The noises that RL have made in the past make me suspect what they will “offer” to Harlequin is that a trust takes all the shares in the RDCs (or alternatively some form of golden share) and Dave is told to take a hike.
How could Dave possibly turn down such a reasonable offer?
@Sid
There’s not a lot that can be offered to cash/direct purchasers. At best, they might be able to sue the agent/adviser who sold the product to them, but they are almost guaranteed not to have insurance so all that’s left is whatever assets they have. And there’s a potential claim against the relevant RDC if there’s a liquidation. So maybe 5% recovery in 5-10 years’ time. And that’s on a good day. Don’t forget that there are lots of non-investor claims, such as those from suppliers and other third parties.
Even if the original trust idea went ahead, just what was going to be in the trust? A formal security (i.e. a contractual mortgage/charge that would be unregistered) over some bits of land – the common parts at BB, land in St Lucia, Barbados & Dom Rep plus, in a year or so, H Hotel & Hotel Blu. How much would that actually be worth? All it would do is to prevent the assets being sold, but the trust documents anticipated the trustees merrily subordinating their security to a bank or other financier. The reality would be that the “security” was pretty much useless.
Add to that the question of whether or not it would be valid in the event of a liquidation or challenge by another creditor and you have what our American chums call a “clusterfuck”.
All in all, it’s not a good place to be.
@TL just one thing to consider, HP will not be sitting back waiting for something to happen. You might find that HP will come out with an alternative “trust” plan. This might be for cash investors only as SIPP investors will be off the books, so to speak. Do you think that GF might have taken the £240 off the cash investors under false promises?
Come on folks , if you have given over £30000 or more to this investment, several years ago ,and the chance of recovery of something , however little is even 5%, what’s a piddly £240 more ? Small change….
@ It’s all in the SIPPs
I’d not be at all surprised if Harlequin had something else to counter whatever RL put up. Or, indeed, that the apparent antipathy between RL & HP is simply a staged spat for public consumption.
As to the ethics of RL, if a particular client or group of clients think they have a genuine grievance, there is always the SRA. At the moment I think it’s too early to judge whether RL have oversold things.
You miss the point. RL do not need to do anymore now.
Have you read their terms of business ? 99.9% of clients ticked the non-refundable box.
Stupid Harlequin investors, failing to read again.
@fluttercup, obviously you are the stupid one. It’s not a question of a refund, it’s a question of if the £240 was taken under the premis of a solution for cash investors, but no solution is proposed. RL have said all along when asked the question about possible redress for cash investors that, a solution will be forthcoming. Well that day is nearly upon us. Yes RL do need to do something by tomorrow.
Premice ?
Nope premise lol
Last year Bob Storey was posting as ‘Fatchett does not represent me.’ aka FDNRM and accusing Gareth Fatchett of being an ambulance chaser.
Recently, he’s posting as ‘It’s all in the SIPPs’.
He is a propagandist and stooge for Harlequin and been here for years under different names.
Beware
Wonder who Frankie Usher is? Mystic Meg perhaps? Not even close. However if GF has no redress option for the cash buyers, if he is just interested in the SIPPs redress at £30m, then guess what? That makes him an Ambulance Chaser, pure and simple. Thanks for reminding us.
IaitS – Using your logic that would make DA a lot of things……
pure and simple.
Big deal. Worst case scenario for GF he charges the victims/purchasers for the redress claims. Refunds the £240 to cash claimants. He still in the money. As for ambulance chaser who else was stepping up and coming up with choices for the victims?
Anybody know what happened to the WordPress case. Do I need to run and hide for calling Ames a liar and thief.
We at BFP have heard nothing more. Never received any documents from wordpress or any lawyers.
Thanks BFP. Didn’t think the Toxic toad would get anywhere.
the Russians have a saying, ‘you can’t lie and go forward, you must always come back to the lie’.
SOMEBODY GOING TO JAIL, I DON’T KNOW WHO AND I AM NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHONE, CERTAINLY NOT MR OR MRS AMES……………….BUT SOMEBODY GINE JAIL.
@pink blue yellow. You need to reduce the dose of your medication.
All,
Investors now have a decision to make. Are you going to accept the Harlequin Trust and Security Offer ?
The issue is not the trust, but the assets being offered as security. The due diligence tells you Harlequin will struggle to implement the offer. One of the fundamental changes is that the investors in the trust pay for the cost of implementing the trust (Schedule 1 – Security). No sign of any finance offer, no accounts, no trading accounts at Buccament Bay & no building plan.
This is an offer which investors will be pressured to accept. Investors deserve better.
All,
Those who have read due diligence understand the problems with the security offer. Those who have not read the due diligence have no idea.
Harlequin have decided to push on with the security offer and the trust.
No Accounts
No Financing
No Guaranteed Mortgages
No Development Plan
You are being asked to trust David Ames until 2019.
Interesting Times ..
Latest missive from RL:
All,
Those who have read due diligence understand the problems with the security offer. Those who have not read the due diligence have no idea.
Harlequin have decided to push on with the security offer and the trust.
No Accounts
No Financing
No Guaranteed Mortgages
No Development Plan
You are being asked to trust David Ames until 2019.
Interesting Times ..
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
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Is that just posturing? An agreed/staged “fight”? Or is it real?
And the little legs never thought that little nugget would get out 🙂
It is however only paid on converting the RL bunch to ‘Trust shorty’
The End Times, they are a coming…Apocalypse Now !!!
No financing? GF tells us he has seen evidence of potential financing. Has this now evaporated or selective memory?
£150k? This get out of jail free card is getting expensive
@sipps. So what. When are you going to post something that is worth reading. DA comes up with documents that prove to be bullshit later. We’ll I never, that has never happened before. You post exactly like BS aka 36 aka FDNRM AKA sportingman etc.
Always Sidetrack, sidestep, muddy the water always trying to divert attention away from your master DA.
So you don’t think it’s important that RL said they had seen evidence of re finance but now they say there is no finance. I would call that a pretty important change.
Poor old Dave, up against dark forces.
GF said he’d seen the letter of intent, not financing. The difference is Harlequin has not put forward any concrete financing options (a letter of intent is a far cry from money in the account):
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/letterofintent.asp:
” Unlike wills, letters of intent are often not legal documents”
Harlequin’s position is absurd:
1. No accounts filed for any of the RDC’s in Caribbean
2. No accounts put forward for “investors”
3. No retortion on the Due Diligence document which was “strewn with errors”
4. No mortgages
5. No completions
6. No plan moving forward
7. No building work
The list goes on.
The choice for Harlequin is simple – liquidate or provide a way to make the thing work (demonstrate their commitment to do this)
If Harlequin was a real company, their AGM would have been a riot. The BOD would be sacked & up on charges of professional negligence, and the vultures would be circling for when the house of cards collapses.
If the “Ames family” (including son Dan) have any intention of making this work, they need to do the following:
1. Publish EVERYTHING that has gone on to this point (accounts etc)
2. Detail EVERY institution they’re working with for financing
3. Share their budgets & plans for the new hotels
4. Keep their investors updated with regular meetings
Anything other than this will mean liquidation
What gives RL the right to send me their comments regarding the HP trust proposal? I am on their e mail list as registered for the original RL blog. As I have not paid £240 to see their DD what then gives them the right to try and influence my thoughts on the HP trust when I am not permitted to see their proposals? How desperate are RL?
@ Anonymous 11.19
You can email RL and ask to be taken off the email list. No one is forcing you to read what they say. They have the RIGHT to express a view, and to send it to you as you’ve subscribed to their emails.
And here’s their latest blurb:
All,
Harlequin Offer
We have received the draft documents. The documents are very similar to those drafted by Pitmans.
The “offer” should be considered in the context of the Due Diligence. Anyone considering the offer without understanding the position of Harlequin only has half the story. We have to accept that there are investors who only received the Harlequin output. These people only see one side which is stuffed full with Trip Advisor awards and other “good news”. The reality is very different.
The “Free” Trust
The “free” entry trust issued last night is not free at all. Clause 12 of the draft deed of waiver has the £50 p/a annual fee. Additionally, the clause states :-
“12. The Investor hereby covenants to :
(i) pay such sums as may be reasonably requested by the Trustees of the Deed of Trust in respect of charges incurred for services to or on behalf of the Deed of Trust. ”
Under Schedule 1 of the Trust Deed, the set up of the Security is charged to the Trust Fund. The Trust Fund will need to raise significant funds to pay for the security to be implement.
There is nothing free about this arrangement.
Impartiality
James Baker – Harlequin accountant who is the author of the figures which Harlequin refuse to release to investors. As James Baker acts for Harlequin he owes his professional duty to Harlequin only.
Bob Ladell – The Pro Harlequin Investor Group (PHIG) has its registered office at ELS Solicitors (the solicitors who act for the Ames’s in the Davies freezing order case and Harlequin Property in the Wilkins Kennedy).
Nothing impartial with the trustees. These are “Harlequin” people through and through.
Security – Schedule 1
No H Hotel or Blu. These two elements of security have been removed. The remaining security is offered by companies which are arguably insolvent. This is not our suggestion, but based on statements made by James Baker in his affidavit to the court in the Davies case.
The grants of security if even capable of being made will be challengeable by non joining investors and / or a subsequent liquidation. The costs of implementing the security fall to the Trust Fund (investors). We suspect that the cost of defending the security would also fall to the Trust Fund (investors).
Conclusion
The Harlequin offer will not fly. It will get support from investors who have not seen the due diligence or want to defer dealing with the current issues by pushing matters 5 years into the future. This charade will go until David Ames realises that he cannot get the required level of support for his trust.
At that point, he can either engage with us and our investors sensibly or appoint a liquidator.
Most clients simply want their money back. The proposed trust will not and cannot do this. Why any investor would accept this (other than in desperation) is beyond us.
Our advice is simple. Do not sign up for the Harlequin Trust offer.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
You are missing the point Thomas. The HP proposal is not a document sent to selective people who have paid £240 as is the RL proposal. Sending me information and sending me their opinion is entirey different.
@ Anonymous 11.38
I’m not missing any point. You posited a question. I gave you an answer which is factual. If you don’t want to listen to RL, don’t.
They have sent their views to everyone registered with them. You’re free to act on or ignore that as you see fit, as is everyone else.
RL have their agenda and clearly are angling for whatever support they can get for it. It’s up to you, and anyone else they contact, to take a view as to whether they support RL, HP or see some other route.
@anonymous 11.38 the RL dd information is posted here on BFP? Probably the best thing for you to do is to join the HP Trust and give Ames a chance of taking some more of your money before liquidation, which is inevitable.
Thomas Levy speaks truth – if you don’t like what RL put out, don’t read it.
They have just as much as you or I to express an opinion, and they have. If you want to express your opinion, you should make a website with your name on it, write your opinion of the situation & publish for the world to see. That’s what RL have done, to their credit
Ehm I seem to remember some time ago when there were some comments about GF within 24 hrs he had got a court injunction and extracted an amount of money for his local church choir. And you think I should start a web site under my own name to publish my thoughts? Nah GF has form regarding opinions.
RL’s counter-offer & redress options.
All,
Current Position
We received an overwhelming mandate to make a counter offer to Harlequin. On 12 June 2014 Harlequin issued their draft trust documents. These documents do not fundamentally change the offer originally made by Harlequin. The security package is still the same and the problems remain.
It is inevitable that Harlequin will paint their offer as the only alternative to liquidation. Pressure will be applied to investors to sign up without understanding the current position of Harlequin. Those that have not read the due diligence will have no idea as to what they are been asked to do. Some do not want to know, preferring the sunshine updates to the harsh reality. There are no finance proposals, no business plan, no accounts & no building schedule. Investors are being asked to trust Harlequin until 2019.
Counter Offer
Before we present our counter offer, we feel it correct to set out our argument why Harlequin has failed. Put to one side all the emotion, from a pure investment perspective Harlequin have lost you your money.
Why has Harlequin failed?
In 2008 Wilkins Kennedy reported in a letter that a Colliers valuation of Buccament Bay had a $200m fire sale value. See Wilkins Kennedy letter.
In 2011 BCQS valued Buccament Bay at $240m. This figure was based on Phase 1 being fully open and trading. We know that Blocks 1, 2, & 3 in Phase 1 are not completed. The BCQS valuation of these blocks is £55m. The conversion of £55m to dollars equates to $93m. By deducting the $93m from the $240m you have a net figure of $147m. One other factor is that the BCQS valuation is based on 42 acres, not 19.05 acres registered. This would reduce the valuation.
The Cost of Building
The cost of building Buccament Bay is £111m (BBC Panorama figures). To raise £111m, Harlequin has taken approx. £222m. The 50% commission paid to Harlequin Management Services (South East) Limited means that for every £1 spent on land and building, £1 was paid in commission to HMSSE. £222m is $376m.
Therefore, having spent $376m to pay for Buccament Bay (including HMSSE commission), the value of Buccament Bay based on the 2011 BCQS (less Blocks 1-3) being $147m, a loss of $229m has been made on the project.
This is investment failure on a massive scale. On that basis alone, Mr Ames and his Harlequin team should stand aside.
Land Representations – please review Grid
The enclosed grid sets out the various property representations from 2008 – 2011. Harlequin only have 19.05 acres of registered land at Buccament Bay. This was registered in January 2009. Before that time Harlequin registered no land in St Vincent.
Look at the representations on the acreage. We have 40 acres, 72 acres and between 80-100 acres in 2009 alone. All wrong and all designed to give the impression of greater land holding. Look at our grid and the supporting documents.
The 72 acres of land was confirmed by Harlequin’s own lawyers in July 2009. December 2009 Mr Ames on a You Tube update states that “we now have almost 100 acres”. Harlequin owned and registered 19.05 acres at that point.
In 2011 BCQS (valuers) did another valuation based on an inventory of the Harlequin land (some 42 acres). Once again the whole valuation was based on incorrect land acreage.
The disclosure to us from Harlequin in 2014 totalled 34.54 acres. The supplemental disclosure from Harlequin stated a further 24.3 acres existed (of which 21.73 acres has not been paid in full). A total of approx. 59 acres was disclosed of which only 19.05 acres is registered properly.
Our view is that the land holdings have always been opaque. All the valuations have been used to support the price increases and the general feeling that the investment was going well. The real picture is materially different. The last valuation in 2011 for Phase 1 Buccament Bay is $240,000,000.00. This valuation (based on the BCQS valuation of Phase 1 Buccament Bay in 2011) has been bandied about in all the investor meetings.
What Mr Ames did not tell everyone is that this is a valuation of the whole of Phase 1 including Blocks 1, 2 & 3. It also assumes the whole of Phase 1 is trading normally. Factor this information in and Phase 1 would be valued at $147m ($240m – $93m). We enclose a copy of the valuations of the Block 1, 2 & 3.
Our simple conclusion is that from outset the valuations have been based on incorrect assumptions. All these assumptions act to increase the valuation of the assets. Any investor seeing any of the top line figures in isolation would be re-assured and would believe that the investment was performing well. Looking at all the valuations, the assumptions, the claims on land and price increases together, we believe there is a clear pattern of misrepresentation.
Grid
We enclose our Grid which details:-
The date, source, representation, actual position, use of document and disclosure of the document. The supporting documents are displayed on Valuations & Land on http://www.harlequininvestortrust.ning.com.
Counter Offer
We enclose a copy of the Investor Counter Offer made for our clients.
We are not asking for a waiver.
We are asking for a transfer of shares from the Ames family.
The shares (eg ownership and control) will be held by an Investor Trust.
Investors only will be trustees. Trustees would be elected.
The first task of the Trustees would be to obtain the “missing” information to ascertain whether Harlequin is capable of being saved. This task would be undertaken in 3 months.
The trading of Buccament Bay would continue. David Ames could easily assist in the handover process and we would invite him to do so.
We have asked for Harlequin to return to us by the end of June 2014.
We have advised all our clients to hold firm and not to sign up to the 5 year waiver offered by Harlequin. There is no doubt at all that Harlequin will continue to offer their trust. It is highly unlikely that they will not seek to follow this through.
Our advice will not change one bit. If investors decide to join the Harlequin Trust against our advice, then so be it.
Redress Options
We have published the full options. Please read our redress options letter.
Conclusion
From an investment perspective Harlequin have failed investors. Most investors want their money back. The redress options for all investors are published.
We would urge all investors to hold firm against the inevitable pressure which will come from Harlequin.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
The links referred to by RL:
Harlequin Land & Valuation Grid
Click to access HarlequinLandValuationGrid20082012.pdf
Harlequin – Counter Offer – 13th June 2014
Click to access HarlequinCounterOffer130614.pdf
Redress Options
Click to access RedressOptions.pdf
The Redress Options
Click to access RedressOptions.pdf
Harlequin – Counter Offer – 13th June 2014
Click to access HarlequinCounterOffer130614.pdf
Harlequin Land & Valuation Grid
Click to access HarlequinLandValuationGrid20082012.pdf
The master plan has started.
Any nasty little deals DA has done with the likes of Lidell and StorEy will be overturned by the liquidator or the new investors Trustee’s
They have been tipped off..
Yes the redress options. ” it is unfortunate, but as a firm we cannot run a no win/no fee system with direct claims” So cough up another £1500 and we might get some money back for you.
“Although this firm is prepared to undertake the SIPP claim on a no win/no fee basis, it cannot afford to be responsible for the costs of the first stage of direct claims”
So that’s it, £1500 or you are on your own. I bet the lemmings, sorry investors who coughed up £240 are thrilled about that then.
When this whole sorry mess finally comes to resolution it will be
fascinating to see the “claw back” schedule. Lidell, StorEy, Sean
Ghent,David Campion, Commissiong, and one rather compromised
Caribbean PM.
@The end game etc. you really don’t have a clue what you are on about. Talking out of your arse.
Good to see something happening. Kudos to RL for being proactive (more than can be said for the “Ames Family”).
As a SIPP investor, I’m waiting for my claim to go through. I’m glad to see RL offering this on no win / no fee, and am further pleased they have a method for direct investors to potentially achieve redress.
Will be very interesting to see what “Harlequin” come back with.
Goody for you Anon. Glad to see you are being looked after on your no win/no fee. Fancy chipping in to the £1500 your fellow cash investors will need to find? Think we know the answer to that then.
Sipps any other choices/options for purchasers? Come on surely you must have at least one, cos anything RL come up with is soooooo bad. Yes please enlighten us with your wisdom. Just one better option will do. Or you just chatting shit as usual.
Anon, how would I have a solution for cash buyers? If RL cannot come up with something how could I? But there again I have not taken £240 off investors under the promise of a potential solution, there again if you want to give me £1500 extra then I could give you an answer to your problem of redress. Is that enough shit for you?
Meanwhile your puppet master has taken £30,000 off investors under a promise of fantastic returns, and delivered what exactly?
Change your id back Bobby StorEy. You’re fooling no one.
Now that the World Cup is underway in Brazil does anyone remember the publicity material for Harlequin Brazil? The marketing material explained that the resort would be operational in time to receive guests for the World Cup. Another resounding success brought to you by the TT. Would anyone like to count the marketing promises that they have failed to deliver?
QUOTE:We have selected Bahia as the location for Harlequin Brazil Resort as there is a huge demand for tourist accommodation because it is already an established tourist destination and the favourite place for Brazilians to holiday with its year round climate, pristine beaches, ecological aspect and excellent infrastructure already in place. Brazil will become even more popular as a tourist destination over the next few years as it has been chosen to host the 2014 World Cup. We intend to open our Harlequin Brazil Resort in 2014:UNQUOTE
Anon, instead of being an anti HP troll, what do you think about RL charging £1500 for a “consultation”?
Sipps so you are just chatting shit. You obviously have had no or very little experience when it comes to litigation. You talk about £240 and £1500 as though it is a lot of money. I spent three times that getting my last dodgy tenant evicted.
Harlequin have taken tens of thousands from people. They have no room to moan about £240.00 or £1500.00.
Life is not free.
Fatchett never had a solution for cash investors. He wants to see the back of them, unless they are stupid enough to pay £1500 for a consultation.
How can it be anti-HP trolling to quote their own publicity material. They said it so why should that be an embarrassment?
Why oh why doesn’t the hp supporter (note the singular) ever talk about David Ames, the one person that started all of this?
Come on Sipps. I’ll start with an easy one. Do you consider DA an honest person with integrity? An easy yes or no answer will do.
why is it that the only HP ever talked about is BB….none of the other promised developments have anything to show for the investors money
Its their “Flagship Resort”.
From the latest 4 star TA review of BB…this sort of confirms a previous TA review that mentioned the temporary closure of the water sports activity for a few days…who can they get away with such consideration for guests who were sold a package including water sports?,,,
“There were a few disappointments which we raised with the manager such as the water activities all closing down 5 days into our holiday with a poor explanation, and a lack of organisation generally around some activities and trips ( or lack of with no boat trips) which was a shame when so secluded.”
Selective Yatinkiteasy is back! After being away from this for sooooo long I would have thought you might have learnt a few lessons. Your comments above are taken from the review entitled “amazing family holiday” What a pity you don’t post the whole review rather than pick out the negative parts which suits your biased agenda. Don’t rush back.
As ever, concentating on the really salient info, Bob.
You will never get Robert Storey into an intelligent conversation about the harlequin business model, like dave Ames, , they both struggle to understand business ethics, goals, contracts, KPI’s, credibility, timescale, these are alien concepts, they are completely out of their depth.
if I have under estimated Dave Ames Business acumen, then he clearly had an agenda , I am wondering at what point it stopped being about giving investors a return on their money, and started being about building unprofitable resorts in the Caribbean.
Apparently his son was studying his marketing and management techniques, especially the “off plan” selling technique . See where that got sonny boy….Hope Tyrone is nice.
Bob is such an ass, as has been said by many, that he would not think that yatinkiteasy has been posting all along as one of the Anonymous crowd….just as he, Bob did @9.33pm …however, his sissy style of writing can be easily detected, as well as the content , or lack of sensible argument .
Lol, haHa ha, yawn etc etc… He should stick to what he does best …nothing.
Apropos of the TA review. Having a reef in front of you at BB is
like having a Ferrari with bald tyres. Only BB ain’t no Ferrari, it
is more like a cinquecento. Truly five star and redefining luxury
in the Caribbean –not !!!
You can’t see the reef, the marina is in the way.
Can you see the pirate ship in the marina?
5 months V’s 5 years
If we go with the RL Trust at least we will be able to see what Ames has been doing for good or bad, and report the same.
With the Ames option, he will be allowed to carry on living the pretence of being a international visionary,lying to investors and thinking he is successful.
Tough choice!!!!
@It’s all in the SIPPs
You tit Robert StorEy – AKA Ames lapdog – Your nasty little deal will be unearthed along with the others.
Then what?.
@unethical sales tactics.
There was never a problem with business strategy, because it was never set up as a viable business. It is all smoke and mirrors for a very clever fraud. Ames had funds to employ the best professionals available. He did employ the best on a number of occasions. Ridgeway construction, of course they got sacked after trying to do a proper job, when in reality he just wanted a show piece. Hence the need to find a bit dodgier builder, we all know how that ended. Oasis hotels disappeared when they realised the above. The accountants until one decide to whistle blow. Let’s not forget Carter Ruck to keep it all quiet on the net which worked very well for many years, except on BFP so he employs the trolls to work on here. What has been purchased and built was bait in the fraud. DA also concentrated on the incompetent defence, it is the cover to keep Ames out of jail.
To be blunt his plan is working very well. There are many millions unaccounted for and many investors still believe that the problems are down to Ames incompetence.
How has anyone not found out the TripAdvisor reviews are fake? Every 4 / 5 star review has exactly the same tone “Paradise found” etc.
You can buy reviews on TA for about $20 / $50. You can tell which are fake because I’ve been involved with that world before (article writing). For every genuine post, you have 100 “generic” ones –
The fake reviews will be highly generalized (I.E no specifics). They will write mainly about the general area (st Vincent), using references only garnered from the likes of Wikipedia & other resources.
You’ll typically find the people writing fake reviews will have “real” accounts, and will charge higher fees depending on how “believable” their account is. For example, if someone has a lot of reviews, you’ll think they would be writing from experience, not money. Reviews on these accounts will be worth much more.
Just looking at TripAdvisor’s Buccament Bay page screams FAKE REVIEWS. The only ones posted by genuine people all say the resort is tired & has operational difficulties. These are sadly lost in the sea of fakes – perhaps what DA referred to when he mentioned a “Tactical marketing campaign” to attract more visitors.
RL need to bring this circus to a close.
How has anyone not found out the TripAdvisor reviews are fake? Every 4 / 5 star review has exactly the same tone “Paradise found” etc.
You can buy reviews on TA for about $20 / $50 (http://buytripadvisorreviews.com/buy-tripadvisor-reviews/). You can tell which are fake because I’ve been involved with that world before (article writing). For every genuine post, you have 100 “generic” ones
Maybe DA doesn’t want investors to see the figures, as these fake reviews will be shown to the world? Obviously the least of his worries, but still a big lie
The fake reviews will be highly generalized (I.E no specifics). They will write mainly about the general area (st Vincent), using references only garnered from the likes of Wikipedia & other resources.
You’ll typically find the people writing fake reviews will have “real” accounts, and will charge higher fees depending on how “believable” their account is. For example, if someone has a lot of reviews, you’ll think they would be writing from experience, not money. Reviews on these accounts will be worth much more.
Just looking at TripAdvisor’s Buccament Bay page screams FAKE REVIEWS. The only ones posted by genuine people all say the resort is tired & has operational difficulties. These are sadly lost in the sea of fakes – perhaps what DA referred to when he mentioned a “Tactical marketing campaign” to attract more visitors.
RL need to bring this circus to a close.
And to think that the CEO of TripAdviser is one of the five highest
paid executives in the world per the WSJ. Crime may not pay but
moral laxity sure does…….
I wonder if RL have thought the share transfer idea through. Let’s pretend, for a moment, that Dave Ames will acquiesce. There are costs associated with share transfers as RL should know.
For example, in St Vincent, stamp duty of 6% is due. If the shares are worthless, then there’s no stamp duty. There is though an Alien Landholders Licence fee. This wasn’t paid by Harlequin because Dave became a citizen. Any new owner who isn’t a Vincy national will have to pay it – and it’s roughly 4% of the value of the land as assessed by the government. If the land is worth, say, US$50m, that’s about $2m that will have to be paid by the trustees.
I’m left wondering just where the funding for this is going to come from. Presumably not the impecunious “investors”, so who will stump it up?
Poster @ 8.14 typical tedious post, more fiction than Harry Potter.
You have some cheek Storey. You lying Harlequin SCUM.
Yep more than you know. Is that cheek or cheque. Ha ha ha lol
@RS No title to cabana yet? Lol Lol…Ha Ha Ha..what a twat!
Storey remember the first time I called you lying harlequin scum on here many years ago, when people were still putting their life savings and pensions into this scam. You were so indignant “I’m a real investor just trying to protect my investment”. Well laugh all you want because some of the people who lost everything in those years read this blog. Your full details including address are posted on this blog. In my experience desperate, pissed off people do crazy things. I’m sure your day will come. Toddle pip
Ah bless, is that you Terry? Resurfaced from under your rock? I found the police were very helpful when I started receiving silly telephone calls. Your threats are pathetic especially from an anonymous poster. Keyboard warrior with no guts. Grow some.
Ah Storey you DO remember me. I never went away little man. Phone calls? Please you are small fry and not worth that much effort. Keyboard warrior? Isn’t that was you were before you was outed? If you remember I DID get a refund in ONE payment! Let’s just say Davey boy couldn’t sell anything after not too long. Think on this, there is a reason why Dave has the security that he has. Do you?
Well your English hasn’t improved has it. I have all the security I need, but why are you still on here if you have had a refund. Once a troll always a troll with your “big man” threats.
1st goal. Get refund. Done
2nd goal. Stop anybody else losing money to this fraud. Done
3rd goal. See David Ames where his son is. To come.
Why are you here?
To wind up people like you. And you swallow it hook line and sinker. And no one has actually lost anythink yet, unless RL get their way and get liquidation and you have paid £240.
Robert Storey
nobody has lost anything yet ? I gave over £130,000 in 2008 to Dave Ames, now tell me, what value would you now place on my investment ?,
the hotel rooms are at buccament bay and st lucia, unfortunately , Dave Ames took 8 years and £400,000,000 to complete the first 100
Wound up lol. Mmmm do I. Back to my earlier post, I had you pegged years ago and I got a refund. Usual propaganda it’s somebody else’s fault. Still not mentioning your paymaster I notice.
Yes I got refund also. That makes us sort of similar. Does that make harlequin scum also?
*you
Here is a difference. I can say David Ames is a lying fraudster that has taken people’s savings and pensions. Can you? Come on try it.
I’ll make it easy for you. Say this, David Ames has made some mistakes and is pretty incompetent as a business man.
And let me make it easy for you. “I am Harlequin scum” go on say it, you know you can.
You are a scared old man Bob, about to lose your life saving because you invested in Harlequin. What a silly old fool you are.
Oh and I thought you was at least going to make it a witty side step. Never mind at least you haven’t bad mouthed your boss. Got a party to go to, come on England. I’ll play with you some more when I have time. Fishy fishy
Probably when Erica asked to be removed from the Crozier claim. Now how much did Crozier pay her back from her fee
I do so wonder if Daddy’s Girl Nicola Kelliher nee Ames will be left well-provided for or penniless? What happened to her shareholding in the Harlequin Empire ? She lives in Wandering Australia (and took part in an extremely poor quality reality TV show and consequently married an Oz farmer). Gad you couldn’t make it up about this dreadful family could ya?
Big Load of old-time bulloks Daily MAil shit here if you can be arsed to read it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1132954/Strewth-Georgea-Shane-Aussie-cattleman-strikes-English-beauty-came-stay.html
why do bs 36 fdnrm bob IDs show up in blue today?????
@ Loose Lips 7:58 to assist RL with the Due Diligence and share information on Ames, Mr. Fatchett was there too. Not sure what your point is, Garreth Fatchett spoke with the builder, CLC, CPC, Panorama, Shipleys, The SFO, Wilkins Kennedy, Jim Baker, the CIB, HMRC, Procure It Direct, Marcus James, former employees of Harlequin, Andrew Newman, Grant Thorntons Fraud Section, Agents, IFAs and dozens more people to assist him in his due diligence, Paul Walton was also there much of the time, Paul introduced Garreth as Garreth is a friend of his,
I don’t believe any body is hiding anything here…..
So again I ask what is your point???
And before you ask, I know because he told me, and no I’m not an investor, I am a private investigator employed to trace the assets of Carol, Dave, Dan, Matthew Ames and Nicola Kelliher, amongst others, the family has substantial assets in Dubai, Thailand, Mainland Europe, Australia and the US, on addition to those in the Carubbean and the UK.
The allegation is that these assets were purchased with investor funds, however I was only employed to trace the assets.
Frank Knight you appear to be a breath of fresh air in this never ending
saga. I can only wish that your employers use the information that
you provide wisely………
And he spoke toe also. Like the blue type. Good eh.
@ Frank, you missed the Masonic connection or can’t you mention that?
Bob StorEy, Masons like blue are you one?
Ooh look! There’s a squirrel.
Latest missive from RL:
All,
Period of Reflection
For the next few weeks, the entire focus will be on Harlequin seeking to persuade investors to allow them 5 more years.
We cannot see any progress being made on anything else until this option has been exhausted. We can fully understand why investors do not like the “war of words” between ourselves and Harlequin. This has to stop as it clouds the issue.
We are ready to negotiate with David Ames for a fairer settlement for investors. Being realistic, this cannot happen unless and until the 5 year waiver has been dealt with.
We do not need to release any more information to investors, do any more surveys or provide any further explanation. The facts are all available for investors to make an informed choice. http://www.harlequininvestortrust.ning.com . Our position on the matter is clear.
Redress
Redress is now the only real option for obtaining your money back. The options have all been set out to you. Please review your options carefully. Our team are on hand to help.
We have won cases and we intend to win more. Our objective is to return as much of an investors money back as possible.
Updates
We will allow Harlequin a period to put forward their trust and to persuade investors they should be allowed a further 5 years.
We will not be responding to any future Harlequin update which involves RL. We owe no duty to Harlequin, only to our clients.
Conclusion
We have to pull back from the squabbling as it does no good for anyone. Our only focus now is our clients.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
By RL’s own words, Harlequin is insolvent, Fatchett’s only plan ?????? To try work with Harlequin who are insolvent.
After 18 months of waiting, his solution ………….. Engage a lawyer, ………… Even better a lawyer he recommends …………
No win no fee, just 20% + Vat,
Just one question or is this too embarrassing for RL, is Ames looking to sell the Hotel Blu and the H Hotel?
Maybe Fatchett could answer this question if posed by a client on the RL forum.
How many ‘squillions’ of dollars is the H hotel derelict building site worth? Has it turned a profit? Nah! Which harebrained-executive at Harlequin thought buying a tired hotel during a financial downturn only to then demolish it was a good idea? How much did the ‘investors’/HP lose on this particular project? The site is an eyesore and it’s embarrassing for Barbados. And who’s going to clear up the mess??? I bet it’s not HP!!!!!
Ames has a cash buyer for Blu and H and Fatchett knows who the buyer is. Ames is fire-selling these two assets.
Over on the RL forum many are now considering joining the Ames trust and running their redress options in parallel, however the Ames trust document prevents them from doing this and Fatchett has failed to bring this to the attention of the masses.
The harlequin business is a success, the Ames family have profited well, they increased their assets, swelled their bank accounts, and regularly holidayed in the caribbean, paid for by the pensioners, buyers and investors in the UK,
@Oh Look
– It’s 15% + vat
– Fatchett doesn’t say the companies are “insolvent”. He references James Baker, whose provided evidence essentially said David Ames’ shareholdings in the RDC’s were worth nothing. We all know this is not the case (BB is worth $30 – $50m), but documented evidence states it is.
In my head, Ames cannot sell H or Blu – what happens to the people who “invested” into those resorts? I heard they have financing options for them, but I’m not sure.
I think the term “blind leading the blind” is apt for Harlequin. Giving them 5 more years is perfect for Ames, not for their “investors”. RL are providing a very generous olive branch to those who want to forget the whole issue & move on with their lives.
If people still believe in the Ames family to deliver the goods, it will be a good idea to join the Harlequin trust. However, the key word here is “trust”. The Ames family have proven time & time again to be not only inept, but morally corrupt (firstly by taking pensioners’ money, but also from a lack of progress).
RL’s offer is fair & just. They have done a lot to iron out the problems with Harlequin, but have come up against amateurs. The way to fix the situation with RL, from Harlequin’s perspective, is to release a detailed set of accounts, to keep investors informed. If this is not forthcoming, how can RL recommend working with Harlequin?
The current situation does not surprise. It’s yet another company trying to bring Harlequin down, right? If that’s the case, let the SIPPs jump ship and work with the “loyal investor base” Ames is apparently so passionate about…
@Oh Look
Something else – RL sent a letter to all SIPP investors, inviting them to join the protected site “for free”.
This, of course, would be paid out of the awarded monies (you owe them £200 + VAT if the case is won) – so if you’re an investor and wish to engage RL, you will get access to the site for “free”
@Oh Look
– It’s 15% + vat
– Fatchett doesn’t say the companies are “insolvent”. He references James Baker, whose provided evidence essentially said David Ames’ shareholdings in the RDC’s were worth nothing. We all know this is not the case (BB is worth $30 – $50m), but documented evidence states it is.
COMMENT; IF THE COMPANY IS UNABLE TO PAY ITS DEBTS AS THEY BECOME DUE, THEN THE COMPANY/COMPANIES IS/ARE INSOLVENT.
In my head, Ames cannot sell H or Blu – what happens to the people who “invested” into those resorts? I heard they have financing options for them, but I’m not sure.
COMMENT; YOU APPEAR TO BE ASKING AMES TO HAVE MORALS, AS AMES HAS STATED QUITE CLEARLY, THE MONEY YOU INVEST IN ONE RESORT CAN BE USED FOR A NUMBER OF UNRELATED PURPOSES, THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP AMES FROM LIQUIDATING ANY ASSET AND DOING AS HE WISHES WITH THE MONEY.
I think the term “blind leading the blind” is apt for Harlequin. Giving them 5 more years is perfect for Ames, not for their “investors”. RL are providing a very generous olive branch to those who want to forget the whole issue & move on with their lives.
COMMENT; WHAT OLIVE BRANCH. INVESTORS HAVE LOST EVERYTHING, SO WHAT HAS RL OFFERED THAT REVERSES THIS ????
If people still believe in the Ames family to deliver the goods, it will be a good idea to join the Harlequin trust. However, the key word here is “trust”. The Ames family have proven time & time again to be not only inept, but morally corrupt (firstly by taking pensioners’ money, but also from a lack of progress).
COMMENT; TOTALLY AGREE.
RL’s offer is fair & just. They have done a lot to iron out the problems with Harlequin, but have come up against amateurs. The way to fix the situation with RL, from Harlequin’s perspective, is to release a detailed set of accounts, to keep investors informed. If this is not forthcoming, how can RL recommend working with Harlequin?
COMMENT; AGREED BUT THE ACCOUNTS NEED TO AUDITED, FUTURE EXPENDITURE ACCOUNTED FOR, THE ISSUES PERTAINING TO LAND TITLE ATTENDED TO ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ……………….
The current situation does not surprise. It’s yet another company trying to bring Harlequin down, right? If that’s the case, let the SIPPs jump ship and work with the “loyal investor base” Ames is apparently so passionate about…
COMMENT; HARLEQUIN AS A BUSINESS HAS FAILED, THEY ARE TRADING INSOLVENTLY, THERE IS NO WORKABLE PLAN B,C,D,E,F,………….. AND THE COMPANY SHOULD AND WILL FACE LIQUIDATION. IT WILL TAKE A TINY NUMBER OF INVESTORS NO MORE THAN 20 TO ISSUE STAT DEMANDS AND THIS WILL BE ENOUGH TO COLLAPSE THE BUSINESS. ADD TO THIS THE NON INVESTOR CREDITORS. FURTHERMORE THE ONGOING DEBACLE BETWEEN RL AND HARLEQUIN DOES NOTHING TO INSTILL CONFIDENCE IN A WORKABLE AND VIABLE CVA.
COMMENT; WHAT OLIVE BRANCH. INVESTORS HAVE LOST EVERYTHING, SO WHAT HAS RL OFFERED THAT REVERSES THIS ????
Probably the crux of the matter. I have a different opinion but will not post, as it’s not the issue
I meant RL has provided some investors with hope. They’ve reversed nothing, but have contributed to progress with some important aspects (transparency of land ownership, showing the Ames family for who they really are etc)
I don’t know Ames personally; neither did the IFA’s who sold his property apparently. I wouldn’t trust him, but that doesn’t stop others from doing so
‘Ames has a cash buyer for Blu and H and Fatchett knows who the buyer is.’
No one’s going to buy any of this failed venture at the going rate. News of HP, RL et al and the specious valuation of the assets is derided all over the tourism and commercial property markets.
With BB: None of you seems to have considered the political and economic state of affairs in SVG and how it affects the future of your involvement and investments. What will be the outcome of the SVG election? Is the Argyle airport going to be finished? Will airlines have confidence in landing and refuelling there?
Indeed has anyone undertaken recent research to establish how current local politics and economics will affect any of the HP locations? Will the island governments have confidence in Harlequin? Is there really a market for the type of resort envisaged by HP and the RL clients anymore? Where is the infrastructure going to come from to support the developments? Perhaps one should also ask the question, ‘Was there ever a market for this type of resort in the region in the first place?
This vital information has been omitted from the recent Due Diligence. Why is that?
Eddie, Ames is off loading Blu and H for less than he originally paid for them.
Anonymous June 15, 2014 at 2:42 pm ‘I don’t know Ames personally; neither did the IFA’s who sold his property apparently. I wouldn’t trust him, but that doesn’t stop others from doing so.
Sorry but you are mistaken there. The IFAs were ‘thick as thieves’ with Dave Ames & Co and regularly partied with him and the Harlequin sales teams. To big themselves up, they often posted photos of themselves posing with DA at Harlequin sales conventions on their websites and FB pages. It is unsurprising that many of their websites featuring those images have now been removed from the internet. All SCUM together, as has already been said before.
Harlequin proudly proclaimed that they paid one million pounds for one of their parties.
Click to access OPP_08.09_p14.pdf
Whose money was spent on that jolly jovial piss up? ONE MILLION POUNDS ON A PARTY! FFS!
Ta for the info, In The Know. Care to let us know for how much then? Do you know who gets to benefit from the assets? And do the Joint Administrators at Shipleys know about this?
H in Barbados is now worth less than when Ames bought it . He bought it as small, but functioning and popular Hotel with ocean frontage and a nice pool . . He partially knocked it down and there is now a monstrosity with steel bars sticking out of of empty rooms… An eyesore . Anyone buying it would be faced with the cost of knocking it down and starting from scratch, except for the shell of a prefab concrete structure by Inotech . I would say land value, plus value of Innotech structure, less demolishing cost of crap that H studio left is the value of that property. Lucky to get US $ 3 million for it now.
@Lizzard
I stand corrected
Oh how times have changed for Harlequin 🙂 I’m glad RL have offered redress options to investors
The IFA’s who sold knowing the thing was shaky will be found out soon enough. Leopards don’t change their spots, they’ll turn up in solar panel, boilers or some other scam next
E Lizard could be 3 million US for H and 4 million US for Blu.
When it gets out who the purchaser is, well my oh my, RL will have a little explaining to do……….
Regulatory Legal are now also sending letters to Harlequin SIPP clients who have not paid the £200 + Vat letting them join their website for free as long as they give the SIPP Redress work to RL. Silly boys, desperate boys.
Shipleys have no interest in the Caribbean co’s . HMSSE is a wholly separate business,
It was Pre-Conco not Inotech.
@ Anon 4:37pm
The IFAs knew all along. They sold the properties for the high commissions they received. Many of them are now millionaires. However that doesn’t help those investors who have lost everything but…
Here’s news of some of the SCUM BAGS, hopefully the first of many:
‘The Financial Conduct Authority has told two advisers banned and fined for inappropriate advice in relation to self-invested pension transfers involving esoteric assets including Harlequin Property, to hand close to £500,000 in penalties to the industry compensation scheme. In two final notices, published today (17 April),[2014] Andrew Rees and Timothy Hughes, partners at now defunct 1 Stop Financial Services, were banned by the FCA, but were told…’
read more here http://www.ftadviser.com/2014/04/17/regulation/regulators/fca-redirects-fines-for-banned-advisers-to-fscs-Y6Dkxz6rKIjbh2r6w0g7WN/article.html
‘Shipleys have no interest in the Caribbean co’s . HMSSE is a wholly separate business…’
Ah! you’re right there In the Know. Just wondered if they would follow any trails. I assume they don’t have the funds to do that.
@ EL2
I’d have thought Shipleys would be very interested. Among the debtors of HMSSE, according to their report last year, were Harlequin Boutique Hotel (St Lucia) Ltd (presumably the owner of Blu) and Harlequin Boutique Hotd Ltd (Barbados) (which, I guess, owns H). The former owes HMSSE £3.8m and the latter nearly £1m.
If the assets are being sold, then those companies will be in funds and I’d have thought the administrators would very much expect payment. If, on the other hand, the shares in the companies are being sold, Dave Ames gets to pocket the cash, but the debt will still be with the companies. I suspect any new owner would be less than happy with being saddled with that.
There’s also the question of what happens to the poor mugs (sorry, “investors”) who bought units in these two delightful edifices. Around 75-80 units were sold in each, so that will leave a debt of maybe £2-£4m in each one (depending on the size of the deposits) for cash back to the purchasers.
I’d be staggered if anyone else would want to take that on, and so I’d expect the assets to be sold rather than the shares in the companies.
If Dave tries to pocket the cash rather than paying off the creditors of each company (the purchasers, HMSSE and any local suppliers, including Preconco, though I have no sympathy for Mark Maloney), that would be outright theft. Obviously, he’d never do anything that dastardly and will make sure the creditors are sorted out.
Who said he’s selling those hotels?
dose anyone want to take a bet on when buccbay reviewers will post their next raving looney review. . and take it up to 530.? trip adviser is laughable. who believes it ????????????
Thomas, Eddy good points, yes if Ames had morals he would notify Shipleys of the sale, but I bet he won’t , again a poster asks how I know, Dave told me and I think Garreth Fatchett knows…………. 😉 I’ve been told the guys doing the deal were/are Fatchett’s clients. But heh wtf do I know, let’s just believe what we want to hear eh?
Fatchett fucked up simple,
“Fatchett fucked up simple”
I don’t think so – I love the work RL have done
Ames has a strong record of telling the truth, and never over-exaggerating on any claim, so I’m eagerly awaiting the news of the sale
So RL want the squabbling to stop. Does that mean they have no more documents to disclose that were “left on the train” Perhaps RL have overplayed their hand?
‘Shipleys have no interest in the Caribbean co’s . HMSSE is a wholly separate business…’
On the contrary those Caribbean companies owe HMSSE £86 million pounds including £30m owed by Harlequin Developments and £22m owed by Harlequin Property SVG. That’s a lotta money. Let’s hope Shipleys have a closer eye on those assets than previously discussed.
source: http://www.professionaladviser.com/ifaonline/news/2278486/harlequin-owed-gbp86m-by-its-caribbean-development-arms
The senior management at Harlequin are singing like canaries, whatever will Ames think about that.
When the money stops, so does the loyalty.
Not long before he joins his son.
@The trains left the station
Tactics, all about tactics.
The alternative trust document from RL
Harlequin Investor Trust – Counter Offer draft – click on link
All,
For your information, we enclose a copy of the Deed of Trust which would form part of the counter offer.
1. The trust does not require any waiver from investors
2. The trust would be created over the shares of the Harlequin Resort Development Companies.
3. There would need to be an agreement with the investors who hold the £2m+ freezing order in the Davies case. This would only be pursued once the counter offer has been accepted. The current freezing order is against the personal assets of David & Carol Ames. It is in place until trial of the Davies matter.
4. Clause 2 is radically different as it obligates David & Carol Ames to resign as directors of the relevant RDC’s etc.
5. Trustees would be investor only.
6. The trust would not need to involve the security of the land. The shares would give ownership and control of the Harlequin RDC’s. Therefore, by implication, the trust would own any land assets.
Timetable
* We expect the Harlequin version of the trust with 5 year waiver to be issued. Administratively, the paperwork would take at least until the end of July 2014 to be dealt with.
* During this period, we find it highly unlikely that David & Carol Ames will accept the investor counter offer.
* If the Harlequin version of the trust proceeds then, the counter offer will not happen.
* If investors reject the Harlequin trust, then the counter offer will then come into play.
Conclusion
Remember, the first role of the trust will be to understand what position Harlequin is actually in.
We have posted the trust document on the Counter Offer page for record.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
One obvious oddity is that the list of RDCs is incomplete. It doesn’t include all of the Harlequin companies that sold properties (Brazil, for example, doesn’t feature). Perhaps the intention is simply to get any companies that might own real estate.
Some of the companies listed owe large amounts to HMSSE. Without the acquiescence of Shipleys, there’s a huge chunk of debt owed from day 1. Who’d want to be a director of such a glorious can of worms, or even a trustee, eh?
The non-development companies, such as HH&R (both the UK variant and the original one in Grand Cayman) are excluded. If these are owed money from any RDC, that debt will still be there and could give the Ames the whip hand, as it were.
HP(SVG) is a litigant in several cases, either as claimant/plaintiff or as defendant. The trust will not alter this. The trustees and/or directors will need to deal with all the consequences of this.
The operating company for BB doesn’t seem to be included. The purchasers will still, therefore, need to reach some agreement with the rump of Harlequin if they want to complete on a unit. The same holds for any other resort, if and when it’s actually built.
From an initial reading, this looks like a FUBAR.
Regarding the RL Harlequin Investor Trust document just received, Item 5, Power to Exclude Beneficiaries: “The trustees shall have the power in their absolute discretion to exclude any Beneficiary as a beneficiary of the trust that Beneficiary fails to pay all or any pary of the sums due under clause 9 of the Deed of Waiver” Where is clause 9 of the Deed of Waiver?
in no particular order, but as far as I know –
Property Marketing companies
Builders
Architects
CGI Modelers
Water garden designers
Regional Airlines
Ship builders
Accountants
Hoteliers
Restauranteurs
Hotel management companies
Travel agents
Property development management
Solicitors
Mortgage brokers
all professionals with whom Ames and HP have either fallen out, or thought that he and HP could do a better job in house. And now HP are setting up their own Trust…
5:13 – You forgot the weeping fisherman on Bequia…
Went to RL this afternoon. They have a list of investors who will not join the trust. 3100 was the number the administrator told me.
I went to find out my redress options and asked a few other questions. Nice office.
They were clearly getting exasperated dealing with DA. My feeling is that they know they have the numbers to stop any Harlequin plan. They seemed relaxed about it all.
Met GF wandering round. He had just been for a run ! Seemed friendly enough.
Dave Ames little Empire is crumbling, his marriage on the rocks, son in prison, daughter in law filing for divorce, Mrs. Ames health is suffering, freezing order on his personal assets, heading for bankruptcy for the third time.
I suspect the whole family will end up in jail.
What a horrible situation for a family to be in.
@was it worth it
What a horrible situation for a family to be in.
Sure that was not a consideration when they all embarked on the money making “we will never be caught” scam started
Still sure Mrs A will receive good medical care inside….
Bob Ladell has the person who completed on Buccament Bay.
At least you all know.
* Was Pah! iphone’s
Richard Ingrham is have a hissy fit on the RL blog, has he actually realized Ames has shafted him. 😉
Some people are so thick – he deserves it.
I can’t think of a better person apart from Bob Story who I would laugh when they lose their money and whatever dignity they had.
PHIG (Bob Ladell’s Harlequin tribute band) have issued a missive to the mugs http://api.ning.com/files/p5H7N8Ot6oNWErguY2EhGG6r-Rsjnw7nfjgIBPclEnR5cAA81c*nXgFNL9oLdLSQqr14ZqxTqQVG*zKbRfrf5TFCWNgtdirv/PHIGCounterOfferComment.pdf
RL is clearly evil. BB is brilliant. So is Blu. Hooray. They are proof of £400 million being sagely spent. Warren Buffett has signed up to investment management lessons from Dave.
Additional rooms are being made available in the local nuthouse for anyone dim enough to believe this drivel. Psst – I have a slightly used bridge I can do you a good deal on. Wink, wink.
@WGA……
Surely you mean ‘integrity’. LOL
I’m feelin’ just an incy wincy bit of Schadenfreude here too!
Lovely day for it.
PHIG = BULLSHIT
No substance at all.
Removing a company’s owner does *not* mean it will go into liquidation “within hours”. You know what does? £86m of debt.
@What goes around, and its going around very nicely at the moment thank you.
cos Dave Ames told me so
therefore it must be all right
Zzzzzzzzz
I have just read the phig report, it seems to be written by the harlequin propaganda machine and dave ames.
Dave ames is not perfect, that is like saying harold shipman needed to work on his bedside manner.
Do not worry my SIPP operator told me that before they will enter into any trust they will need to see finance.
That’s Dave’s effort finished then.
I was told by my SIPP company once bitten an all that.
RL will get their pound of flesh – with interest.
BO..
@ ATGING
It’s glisters, not glitters.
@ AZ
Nice hat tip to the same play.
I will letter of halve it with you….
Bill S – Unless you mean a possessive it is its without the apostrophe.
@ Anonymous 8.15 pm
I suggest you go back to school, you ignorant moron. “Its” is the possessive form. “It’s” is an abbreviation of “it is”. And so, the educated among us see that things are the exact opposite of what you say.
RL have banked £1m + and Bob is jealous. God bless PHIG.
Bob better stick to tree hugging.
He has 39 followers.
20 of them are Harlequin. 🙂
SVG land registry documents requested – palms have been greased.
Just read Bob L and Colin F’s letter. Good God, it’s illiterate. How can anyone take it seriously?
Is Bob L the one married to Dave’s sister?
@PHIG Report – funnier than the Dandy comic
June 17, 2014 at 7:19 pm
I have just read the phig report, it seems to be written by the harlequin propaganda machine and dave ames.
Dave ames is not perfect, that is like saying harold shipman needed to work on his bedside manner.
Very funny. Made me spew my coffee!
RL’s latest epistle
All,
Legal Surgeries
We are going to announce how we intend to run these in the next few days. We have been told by Harlequin that they intend to offer their trust to investors. We see little merit in running Legal Surgeries unless and until the Harlequin offer is made. There is little point talking about what may or may not happen.
Counter Offer
There is no way we will get a response (other than “no”) unless and until the Ames / PHIG trust is rejected. We will wait until the final Harlequin offer is made before setting out the alternative offer in more detail. We reject the notion that voting “no” or removing Mr Ames guarantees liquidation. Our view is that liquidation is equally as likely if 5 more years is granted.
Irrespective of the result, there are both investor creditors and non investor creditors who will use insolvency proceedings to get repaid. These people will not be appeased by the offer of 5 more years.
SIPP Operators
We have supplied the major SIPP operators with access to our due diligence. We do not act for the SIPP operators, but know from speaking to them that before they will even consider the trust, they will need to see :-
(a) finance offered
(b) accounts brought up to date
(c) the unregistered land rectified
3400 out of the 6000 (many of which we act for) need their SIPP operator to agree to the Ames / PHIG trust. Without the full support of SIPPs then the Ames / PHIG offer will fail.
Remember, part of the redress claims against SIPP operators relates to their lack of due diligence in the outset. This time around, the SIPP operators have due diligence to consider which is both relevant and fresh. If they were to proceed blindly with the Ames / PHIG offer, we would be asking the question as to why they have disregarded material facts for the second time.
All the major SIPPs are in “defence” mode with their insurers dictating their actions. As the insurers have the liability, we do not see them wanting to exacerbate matters. This is a massive hurdle for the Ames / PHIG offer to get across. Appealing to investors via SIPP is irrelevant. The decision is with the legal owner (the SIPP operator).
The Counter Offer involves a change of control (share transfer) and does not need the SIPP providers to agree. Therefore, the counter offer does not have the same hurdle to go across.
Ames / PHIG Offer & Redress Claims
Our view is that the way the offer is put could damage an investors ability to claim redress. We say this because :-
(a) investors are on notice that Harlequin has serious structural problems.
(b) by signing a waiver investors are demonstrating that they are prepared to take the very high risk strategy the Ames / PHIG offer entails.
(c) this overt demonstration of risk taking would act to defeat the argument that the investor was not a taker of high risk.
(d) additionally, signing into an offer which defers right for 5 years could prevent a valid redress claim being calculated. At present Harlequin investments have a £1 value for redress calculations. The whole Ames / PHIG thrust is that they will deliver value across 5 years. How do you calculate redress if you have signed up ?
Conclusion
This is not just about “Ames / PHIG v Counter Offer”. It is about the fundamental question as to whether you believe Harlequin can deliver you a return. The redress claims are delivering returns already.
Proceed with caution.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Well well, the “we are going to stop the squabbling” statement by RL didnt last long did it? They just cannot help themselves can they. Why not admit the inevitable and get on with trying to get redress for the SIPP investors and stop playing your stupid games RL. Its obvious that is where your interest is. Of course you may once have wanted to represent the cash investors but one little problem for you. You dont have the up front funding and cannot get any financial backing can you.
@Its all in the SIPPs
Harlequin will fail as there is no earthly way in which the SIPP operators will go with Dave / Bob. None.
Did you know RL have acted for most of the SIPP operators or their insurers in the past ?
Wheels within wheels. Dave loses.
“All the major SIPPs are in “defence” mode with their insurers dictating their actions.” – and have been since early March, as I posted at the time. And don’t think that the insurers won’t be very aggressive in pursuing their own interests above all else now that they know just what a mess this is!
@Empire built on sand, perhaps DA is happy for RL to go for redress against the SIPP operators. That way 3000? Investors are not his responsibility any more.
Yes, maybe, BUT aggressive well-financed insurance companies will
be seeking redress for 3000 policies. And don’t think for one second
that they won’t.
These are not policies. These are worthless contracts against companies in the middle of nowhere.
It matters not to RL. They do not care and nor will the investors who get their money back.
Harlequin’s new update is a complete joke
They think people are going to sign the waiver without any due diligence (esp finance)? Some will…. but Jesus Christ. Thank God for RL.
The Brethern, Brethren all, have a pincer movement against Ames and Harlequin; it’s simply not possible to survive.
Cash investors are knackered because they told lies on the finance agreement – home improvements .
If I gave SIPP transfer advice I would worry.
If I sold Harlequin I would worry – especially if I had assets.
Roll up, roll up! Join the Super Harlequin Investor Trust.
From: Harlequin Hotels & Resorts <no-reply@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com
Date: 18 June 2014 ***** BST
To****************
Subject: Investor Trust Registration Days next week
Reply-To: <no-reply@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com
Investor Trust Registration Days
Prefer to sign in person? Got questions? Come along next week and sign up for the Trust!
Dear Investors,
I am delighted to confirm that the Trust documentation will be signed by the Trustees this week. At that point the Harlequin Investor Trust will be operational and we will start the process of transferring assets into the Trust, which will provide valuable security for Harlequin investments – but only for investors who sign up.
The Trust documentation, which includes the signed Deed of Trust and template Deed of Waiver, will be emailed to you soon, at which point we urge you to fill in the details required on the Deed of Waiver and either email or print and post it back to us as soon as possible. Once we have your signed Deed of Waiver, your entry into the Trust is confirmed.
However, I understand that some investors may have questions or simply prefer to do things face-to-face, which is why we are holding Trust Registration Days in venues across England next week, where you can better understand the intention of the Trust, enter into a Deed of Waiver in person, and ask me and members of the team any questions you may have about the Trust.
Each Trust Registration Day will run from 10am to 8pm. Investors are free to come along whenever they can between those hours.
IMPORTANT: If you attend a Trust Registration Day, please ensure you fill in and bring the form provided at the link below and also bring a copy of your contract if possible to enable us to verify your Harlequin investment.
Print and fill in this form if you attend a Trust Registration Day.
The venues are as follows:
London – Monday 23rd June
Grange Holborn Hotel
50 – 60 Southampton Row
London
WC1B 4AR
Room: Perseus B
Manchester – Thursday 26th June
Manchester Airport Marriott Hotel
Hale Road
Hale Barns
Manchester
WA15 8XW
Room: Stable Room
Birmingham – Friday 27th June
Novotel Birmingham Airport
West Midlands
B26 3QL
Room: Concorde Suite
We look forward to seeing you next week.
Yours sincerely,
Dave Ames
Chairman, Harlequin Hotels and Resorts
Is Vaseline supplied at the Trust Sign UP sessions?
Wow..another 5 star TA review of Buccament Bay by a First Time reviewer who claims this is his 5th trip there. The review is so general in comment that it could be applied to pretty much any place in the world,.wonder what the going rate is these days for 5 star reviews?
@ Anon 7:27pm
Yes yet another risible review. Report it to Trip Advisor.
It’s about time TA did a cull of the fake reviews again.
Would that be the one by Clansman 337. 1st review only given BB 2 stars. Yes def a anti HP troll. What is the going rate for a2 star review these days?
dont know how much the going rate is for placing fake reviews on t advisor but Dave must know. i bet bob storey\spotman will change his I id and be back quick as a flash to tell us how it can or cant be done. or give us a lecture about spelling, or the plod, or hopefully he’ll just shill out in the garden with his lidl wine box and go zzzzzz
Reviews on TA go for anything between $20 – $50 (depending on account “believability”). Just Google “buy tripadvisor reviews” – here are some of the results:
http://real-tripadvisor-reviews.com/
http://buytripadvisorreviews.com/buy-tripadvisor-reviews/
http://www.reviewbullet.com/buy-hotel-reviews/
They’re just a variant of article writing – a popular type of “freelance” work where people in countries like the Philippines will write generic English articles for consumption by people in the US, UK etc.
Tripadvisor reviews just need “believable” account All of the 5* reviews of BB are in this bracket – highly generalized & written under the same tone – “Family Holiday Destination” etc. It’s all fake
Take your pick. Small change for HP
http://buytripadvisorreviewsdotcom
http://real-tripadvisor-reviewsdotcom
I’m looking at Dave & Co’s ‘Investor Trust Registration Days’ document.
How many times was the term ‘Deed of Waiver’ mentioned in that document? All muddled up with the term Deed of Trust. Just love this one:
‘Once we have your signed Deed of Waiver, your entry into the Trust is confirmed.’
What rot.
“Deed of waiver” is a fraudulent, I mean freudian slip. You are waiving your pension, life savings and rights away.
That has got to be one of the worst posts for spelling and grammar seen on here for a long time. And it’s Aldi not Lidl dick head.
Looks like the suspected fake review no 530 has been removed by TA …..perhaps they are beginning to see a trend that is obvious to others.
@Bob Storey, or as Think of him “BS” … Do you think “seen on here” is good grammar?
Who is Bob Storey? It’s better grammar than “or as Think of him” What sort of stupid sentence is that? Get back to school.
Obviously the” I” was inadvertently omitted, whereas the statement”seen on here” was made deliberately, and is common gutter English.
Bob the dick head!
Now now Anon, getting a bit techy aren’t we. And was using a capital for Think in the middle of the sentence inadvertently added? Is that not just common gutter grammar? Lol. Two mistakes from someone who thinks that “seen on here” is incorrect. Perhaps it should have been saw on here? I’ll let you chose as you are so knowledgable about English. NOT
RL’s thoughts on different outcomes/scenarios
1. Ames gets 90+ of investors to sign up.
Chances – limited
Why ? – SIPP operators will not sign up. On our records a significant number of direct or re-mortgage investors will not sign up either.
2. Ames gets 50% of investors to sign up.
Chances – good
Why ?- No SIPP operators will sign up, but direct (and re-mortgage) investors will sign up as an alternative to liquidation.
3. Ames gets less than 50% of investors to sign up
Chances – high
Why ? – No SIPP operators will sign up, nor will those in our client bank. The threat of the impending liquidation will not be enough to persuade people.
In scenario (2) & (3) Ames’s trust will not work. He will not be able to obtain finance. The “no” faction includes investors who hold statutory demands who will seek to liquidate the company.
In scenario (1) Ames’s trust will work. His threat is that some of those holding statutory demands go after him anyway. He will have to pay them off or liquidate.
1. Remember – the majority of SIPP operators have already told us “no”. We do not see SIPP operators going it alone.
2. Many re-mortgage investors are out of pocket due to missed finance payments. Why would they vote for 5 more years of the same ?
3. Direct investors are Ames’s most fertile territory.
4. PHIG – 50 investors max.
Left of Field Issues
1. SFO
2. FCA
3. Shipleys and the Insolvency Service – £86m HMSSE debt
4. Davies & Co case
5. Unknown creditors
Mr Ames has an uphill battle. However, what he does have is the ability to scare people into doing anything to avoid liquidation.
It will be interesting to see how many people turn up [to the Super Harlequin Investor Trust meetings next week]. We will send some people to keep an eye.
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A few items have been omitted from the “Left of Field” list. Inter alia:
The ICE/O’Halloran litigation. The Irish case is under appeal. There’s been no movement on the cases in SVG or Barbados. O’Halloran has a substantial counterclaim against Harlequin. Ames stated publicly that he sold off ICE group plant & machinery in clear breach of court orders. Big if, but if O’Halloran wins against Harlequin, the damages could easily be enough to bring them down.
Local creditors – unpaid staff, suppliers. There seem to be many of these, and some have filed suit against Harlequin.
Decided cases, such as Caldwell. With judgement in their favour, all they need to do is to enforce this.
US authorities – Harlequin sold properties in the US, claiming they were suitable for 401K plans. It wouldn’t take too many complaints to the DoJ or FBI for action to be taken. The UK/US extradition treaty could easily see some individuals being carted off to a supermax jail for a few years pending trial.
Added to the above direct investors will not be ripped off for another £1500 for a consultation. HP trust would be the best way for them.
@It`s all in the SIPPs…thanks for that Bob!
“Seen here”…not “seen on here”..Dick head.
Techy techy. Now how about the capital T in think? Think you are treading water now, don’t you. Your pathetic attempt at being a school teacher has resulted in a 2-1 win for me. RESULT! Get in!
That was my result, not yours.
@It’s all in the SIPPs
if you have sold harlequin you are * ucked
if you DA will look after you , you are *ucked
Either way you are a sad *unt
Meanwhile, over on TA it looks like Jase82 wasn’t at all impressed with the Harlequin experience at Buccament Bay.
Money stolen from bank account”
First I would just like to congratulate the team on the site. They done a fantastic job and me and my wife had an amazing first year anniversary. The facilities were second to none, the food was great and the resort was to die for.
However, its with regret that all that has been tainted when you have stolen £91.97 by taking money out of our account without our permission. We are both let down by this, and cant believe this is the behaviour of a supposedly 5 star resort. We contacted them to find out what the money was taken out for as we had already settled the bill in advance and no damage was done to the villa. They informed us it was for a spa treatment that had already been paid and im still waiting for a response from them. I would have thought they would have contacted us in advance to clear the matter up in advance, but instead they took the funds out of our account without permission, which ultimately is theft. As a result ive had to pass this on to Associate of British Travel Agents
Stayed June 2014, travelled as a couple
Tut tut tut, seems the real reports are surfacing on TA now
When will RL bring this circus to a close?
RL want this to stumble along for another year or so. This gives them time to deal with redress claims against IFAs and SIPPs.
Whether Shipleys will play ball come October remains to be seen.
More salvoes in the phoney war between RL and Harlequin
Email 1
Dear Agent,
At 11am on Tuesday 24th June, Harlequin is hosting an Agents’ Meeting in central London and we sincerely hope you can attend.
Dave Ames and members of the Harlequin team will be there to discuss the Trust, redress, and the business going forward, but please be aware that the meeting is strictly agents only.
If you would like to attend, please email us ASAP at openday@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com so we can determine the size of venue to book. We will be in touch again shortly to confirm the address.
Regards,
Harlequin
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Email 2
Dear Investor,
We are pleased to see that R Legal has seen sense and swapped public and private threats – which Harlequin does not believe could be carried out – for contrition and a promise to adopt a more professional approach by ditching attempts to obstruct the Trust, such as giving the impression that attacking Harlequin will be of benefit to investors.
We hope for the sake of investors it is genuine. Misinformation and scare tactics for marketing purposes are not in investors’ best interests and serve only to cause unnecessary distractions and distress. Alas, it only took a few days for R Legal to relapse into scare tactics (more on this below), but hopefully they will do better going forward.
Please take a moment to read this important update.
Response to the Trust documentation
We have been delighted by the excellent response to the Deed of Trust document we circulated last week. The Trust will be signed this week and we hope to have the first few thousand entrants registered before the end of June. Please look out for the Trust documents in your inbox this weekend.
It is clear that investors understand that standing together and supporting Harlequin’s future is in the best interests of all concerned – all, that is, except those with a vested interest in seeing Harlequin fail.
Whilst the majority of investors seek returns on their investment, we also appreciate that certain investors are seeking refunds or resales. The best way to realise a refund or resale is for Harlequin to establish the Trust, acquire finance to accelerate development, and finalise more completions. When those circumstances are realised, and we are confident they will be, we will seek to facilitate the desired results of all types of investor.
Key developments
It is regrettable that investors have had to endure the “update war” of recent weeks, which is equally tiresome for the Harlequin team. It is also a shame that it distracts from positive and significant developments that continue behind the scenes. These include:
* Leading Global 5 Star Hotel Management Company: The company has visited the projects, documents have been drawn up, and detailed positive discussions are ongoing this week regarding their interest in Buccament Bay Resort and other projects.
* Finance: The success of Buccament Bay Resort as an established multi-award-winning hotel has had an extremely positive impact on financiers that is even beyond our expectations. We are working with an experienced team of fundraisers and now have a range of banks and private financiers also engaged in discussions with Harlequin.
* $70m Professional Negligence Claim: Notably, Wilkins Kennedy has delayed the service of their defence, which is now expected at the end of June. The effect of a multi-million pound settlement on Harlequin’s projects and your investments has been completely overlooked by those trying to undermine Harlequin. The latest attacks we are experiencing are tantamount to the underhand Harlecon attack for which we achieved success through the courts. We will succeed here, too.
The above are all matters that our detractors have no knowledge of. No doubt if they did, they would seek to interfere. It is for that reason and others – not least confidentiality – that we cannot disclose specific information, but, with investor support, the future certainly looks very positive.
Offers and retractions
Last weekend, after an investor backlash both inside and outside their group, R Legal withdrew its original counter offer.
The unworkable and unrealistic proposal was insulting to Harlequin and investors not just due to its arrogance, naivety and clear lack of preparation and detail, but also because R Legal does not have a mandate to put forward a power-grabbing offer to Harlequin. It is estimated they “represent” less than 1/5th of the investor base and many of them are either disaffected or investors who only became classed as “clients” when they paid R Legal to enter the Trust. R Legal is currently in discussions with a number of investors regarding refunds.
We are not surprised to hear that there has also been a furious reaction to R Legal asking for additional fees from investors. To remind you, the Harlequin Trust is FREE to enter and will only cost £50 + VAT per year for the period it exists, as set out in the Deed of Trust.
Redress scare tactics
Despite spending the last several months urging investors to join the Trust and submit redress claims side-by-side, R Legal has suddenly changed its stance to claim it must be redress alone. Redress, of course, provides R Legal with huge commission payments and the Trust no longer earns them a penny now that they have stopped receiving the £200 + VAT fees.
Redress claims are separate to the Trust and it is not for Harlequin to push you in one direction or the other, but it is important for investors in this position to understand that there are options available. Harlequin has been presented with attractive alternative redress options that confirm our position that the Trust can easily co-exist alongside redress if an investor would also like to pursue that route. Therefore it is clear that redress can take place without seeking to make Harlequin and the Trust fail.
We understand that a number of people have tried without success to obtain details on R Legal’s “successful” Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) test case – a matter that our external lawyers are also looking into. It is not known if the case even has any relevance to Harlequin, so we would ask that R Legal release the details of the case as soon as possible.
The R Legal position regarding the Trust is a ‘chicken and egg’ situation. If investors seek to go against Harlequin and the Trust by following R Legal advice, the Trust will have difficulty in succeeding. One of the reasons for this is that financiers want unity amongst investors to give them the confidence to invest. If investors enter into the Trust and a majority is achieved, the Trust WILL succeed and we believe the Harlequin investment will have a bright future.
Thank you for your support.
Best regards,
Dave Ames
Chairman, Harlequin Hotels & Resorts
Looks like it’s 15 Love to Ames, but will it be Game Set and Match 😉 “On Completion” of this grudge match, Let’s “Stay Well” tuned folks, to see if Harlequin has 7 Million lives, or will it be a “Blu” day for investors, as it is for our galant but alas defeated heroes in Brazil.
Wonder if Ames ever intended to build a Liverpool Soccer School in Uruguay ??????? Maybe Ames could employ Suarez as his ambassador.
Insider, I am pleased Mr Ames is happy. However I further applaud RL as without them, there would be no hope. I can’t wait to just leave this mess behind and get on with redress
Looks like Ames has “cashed” in on the idea of a trust …. The man certainly has balls but will he be serving up another fault filled concept .
I don’t believe it !!!!
Andy Townsend and Michael Miserables to “Complete” hat trick?????
Safran to open in BLU? could it be that the “Owners” of BLU will be promoting the culinary delights from their native country, one may just need to Stay Well clear of those Seven deadly sins.
Let’s not be shy and ”cash in” on a dirty little cabana deal.
I have a sudden uncontrollable urge to do something really dodgy.
Beware Mr Ames, the Ides of MARCH !
RL have just been out played. Fatchett must be rueing the day he took the call from Paul Walton. Why not just disappear into the sunset with your list of SIPP investors and let the big boys sort out the rest.
“We are not surprised to hear that there has also been a furious reaction to R Legal asking for additional fees from investors. To remind you, the Harlequin Trust is FREE to enter and will only cost £50 + VAT per year for the period it exists, as set out in the Deed of Trust.”
did I hear you correctly dave ames, I gave you £80,000 for a cabana that was to be completed in 2008 , with 100% finance, and 8 years later you are asking investors for the 70%, and my cabana is not even started. and you believe it is disgusting for RL to ask for more funds on top of their £250, and you want an extra £50. Do you not see, in 8 years, I have had nothing but false hope, false promises, and fairytales
now shove it up your arse ( will have to remove dan dalligan, robert storey , sunny stenning or richard Ingham first )
Jealousy is not pretty to see.
@ 8:13
What a spiteful remark.
Almost as spiteful as your ID, troll.
The majority of “investors ” in Harlequin never saw that the various projects were too good to be true. They were sold as “no risk”, high return investments with guaranteed this and that … And the investors fell for it , hook , line and sinker.
Now , after some 8 years of unfulfilled promises, they are being promised by the same architect of the dream, to trust and follow him , in order to save their investment. This is one of the most incredible stories I have seen being played out in the Caribbean. It is only going to get worse.
Ooh – look at us. We’re the chosen ones!
RL have another pop at Harlequin: http://api.ning.com/files/Ug6ORo4NSNSPEbWYOD7aGR1ZuJYpy*PWgV4SnZgbfR36Ka5TrHgwFCLByCfMTjWMV1Ty59pW6AVxhFCI995oVKaWl7NXTuMN/HarlequinInvestorTrustupdate20.6.14.pdf
Can someone explain why HP need a sign up of 90% yet RL only need “a majority”. Just give it up RL just get on with your SIPP redress and butt out of anything else. You know you cannot pursue the cash option because you don’t have the finance to do it so stop trying to influence something you have no further interest in.
@6.11am the word is deluded you fecking dimwit .piss of Ames you deluded bankrupt . Perhaps I will adopt the stenning method of dealing with dissenters . A taser in the hand is worth two in the bush.
@ThomasLevy
Ames cannot get 90% as RL have approx. 3500 clients.
SIPPs hold 3400 people.
Redress is very alluring when you can get your money back. Why would you trust David Ames to return your funds ?
RL will sit back now and wait. They know, Dave knows that finance is not going to happen while the war is on going.
@ Shylock
What I find curious is that RL put an apparently arbitrary figure on the numbers needed; they have given no rationale for 90%. I wonder whether they accept that 90% would be needed for their own version to be successful?
In any event, I really can’t see any external financier being willing to put cash into a business which (a) seems to be insolvent and (b) would fail even the most basic due diligence. Far more sensible, one would have thought, would be for any interested party simply to stand back, wait for this all to go pop, and then fund a pre-pack. That way, they get the assets they want with management of their choice and no awkward creditors hanging around.
RL have fewer than 1000 paid up clients.
In the Know –
RL have just under 3500 investors. I know because I had a meeting with RL about my direct claim. There is a whiteboard with the numbers on in their Harlequin project team room.
They have 2000 or so SIPP claims.
The general view was “Ames is an idiot who will lose out whatever happens.”
Oddly, GF (who I met for 5 minutes) was more generous about Ames.
He doesn’t but whatever, Would of course be interesting to see if RL would confirm how many investors paid them the £ 200 + Vat.
It would be even more interesting if DA would confirm what happened to £400 million.
RL do not need to disclose anything. They can tell each client what they paid, but the cumulative amount is not a matter for anyone other than RL.
Shilly Bob is so transparent.
We love having a good laugh at you and your nasty chums at the Basildon bunker.
The Ames family are finished, but it will have nothing to do directly with his investors, they just indirectly provided the ammunition for the gun pointed directly at Dave’s head, the trigger man? Well Dave and Carol know well who that is. See when you lie, you need to be consistent, otherwise one day those lies will catch up with you, and depending on who you lie about will dictate the severity of the repercussion.
The investors have no clout, a look at the RL forum just demonstrates how in affective they truly are.
Dave Ames has stated that he is taking Wilkins Kennedy to court, Wilkins Kennedy have till the end of June to file a defence, then they will apply for security for costs in that case, which they will win in all probability, Ames will have to find the cash to put into court to cover this, if he fails, then his case collapses and Wilkins Kennedy will apply for a default judgement as to costs, they will then give Ames and his companies 21 days to pay up or they will apply to have his companies wound up.
Even if Ames finds the cash to cover the security for costs, he then faces the discovery process, and that is the nail in his coffin, Wilkins Kennedy know exactly what to ask for, they have much of the damning information already.
And this is just the start of Ames’s woes, there is far worse to come,
And this is just the start of Ames’s woes, there is far worse to come,
the more the better
@Anon 10.03 sheer fantasy.
We shall find out very shortly whether this is fantasy or not, the defence has to be filed next week. The fantasy however appears to be the Ames family claims for 70 million.
There are some overseas investors with deep pockets just waiting for this to fall over.
Measures have been take to ensure it will.
it’s really that simple. 😉
A week ago Gareth Fatchett said he’d leave Harlequin and the trust alone but he still won’t stop going on and on.
How many more times can he say he has nothing more to say but still repeat the same crap anyway?
It makes him look stupid and desperate.
@Rlcsu
You seem to have misspelt Dave Ames’s name as Gareth Fatchett. It was definitely DA that I gave money to. You also forgot to mention for how many many many years he has been repeating the same crap.
@Rlcsu..AKA ..FDNRM, AKA Bob Storey,.you just can`t help having a go at GF, can you?
FAQs
– more holes that a sieve !
Odd how bending the truth is so natural to some.
Here’s the FAQ. It’s smellier than overripe Gorgonzola.
From: Harlequin Hotels & Resorts <no-reply@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com
Date: 21 June 2014
To: ***************
Subject: Harlequin Trust: Frequently Asked Questions
Reply-To: <no-reply@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com
Investors' Frequently Asked Questions Regarding the Trust
Dear Investors & Agents,
In order to help clarify some matters pertaining to the Trust, we put together this FAQ based on the queries we hear most often from investors and agents.
We hope you find the below helpful. Please do get in touch if there is anything we have not covered. You can call the office on 01268 24 24 60, Monday to Friday from 9am to 5.30pm.
Does Harlequin own the land it is providing as security for the Trust?
Yes, Harlequin owns all of the land that is set out in the Deed of Trust as security for the Trust.
Can investors enter into the Trust AND pursue redress?
Yes. Harlequin has been presented with attractive alternative redress options that confirm our position that the Trust can easily co-exist alongside redress if an investor would also like to pursue that route.
R Legal agreed and publically stated numerous times that the Trust and redress can co-exist; it was only very recently when the firm ceased being involved in the Trust that they conveniently changed their opinion.
If I want to pursue redress, do I have to use R Legal?
No, there are other options available. Please contact the Pro-Harlequin Investors Group (PHIG) for more information on: do-give@phig.org.uk
The same results can be achieved by others without behaving in an unnecessarily destructive and threatening manner towards the business, investors and other parties.
I only want a refund. Why should I care about joining the Trust?
As well as securing your investment, the Trust is also designed to enable Harlequin to receive an injection of funding that would get the business where it wants to be in terms of opening more hotels and completing on properties.
When Harlequin is in an improved financial position, which we are confident will happen following entry into the Trust, Harlequin hopes to satisfy all investor demands to the extent it is able, whether that be completion or exit from the investment.
What happens after the five year waiver period if Harlequin hasn’t raised finance or achieved its Trust objectives?
This is a matter for the Trustees to decide in the best interests of the beneficiaries. Depending on how the objectives of the Trust are proceeding, there is an option to extend the waiver period or cancel the Trust. The contract will remain in force for the period. Harlequin is confident it will be in an improved financial position at that time, which will give the investment a far better chance of success.
What happens if I do not enter the Trust?
Your investment will be unsecured, meanwhile thousands of others are expected to be secured at a minimal cost of an annual £50 administration fee. It will also assist our detractors in their aim to force Harlequin into liquidation for their own personal gain.
What if I don’t trust Dave Ames anymore?
If an investor is dubious for any reason, it is important that they remember that the Trust also prevents Dave Ames from any unsanctioned use of Harlequin’s assets. When the land assets are entered into the Trust, Dave Ames cannot sell, trade, mortgage or modify them without first receiving the independent Trustees’ approval.
Why is the $70m professional negligence claim against Wilkins Kennedy so important?
There are two key reasons: (1) it establishes that Harlequin was truthful and correct in its claims and assertions in how it has been wronged, which will do a great deal to rebuild the company’s reputation following negative PR campaigns; and (2) the injection of tens of millions in funds will have a hugely significant impact on Harlequin’s ability to deliver investments and strengthen the resort development companies for the future.
Following the successes of the fraudulent misrepresentation case and defamation settlement, which were necessary prior to the issue of this claim, Harlequin is extremely confident of success. If our detractors are allowed to succeed and liquidation occurs, the case would not continue and investors would not benefit from the windfall.
When will Dave Ames tell us who the hotel management company is?
Negotiations with the company are confidential and sensitive, which is why it is not appropriate to reveal the company’s identity against their wishes. However, all will be revealed once contracts are in place. Disclosure of the identity of the hotel management company will sadly result in the company being bombarded by the usual suspects, so as a result they have requested their identity remain anonymous.
Is there finance coming?
We believe so. We are confident that funding will be available to Harlequin shortly after the Trust is entered into. Dave Ames is in talks with a number of finance providers, including banks, regarding a range of options for funding, but it will not be until the Trust is established and successful that these options can become a reality.
If Harlequin opens more hotels, won’t it be too much for Dave Ames to run?
Dave Ames has always stated that the plan is to involve a prominent luxury hotel management company to run most of its resorts.
Why are H, Barbados and blu, St Lucia excluded from the Trust?
Harlequin is in the process of negotiating with financiers to enable the completion of H, Barbados and blu, St Lucia. The combined property total of the two properties relates to around 2% of the total properties sold by Harlequin. Rather than enter the two properties into the Trust only for the assets to be removed once a finance package is agreed and incur costs in doing so, we think it is sensible to exclude the properties from the Trust at the outset.
You would have to be thicker than a thick plank to fall for that.
Matters not, he won’t get the numbers on any front.
The RL update about the tort of deceit will have the agents arse going “50p,20p,50p”. Serves them right.
Same old same old. Especially tailored for the more deluded/desperate amongst the “investors”.
@Anon 3.53 you poor deluded fool. Do you honestly think no one else on here could have negative opinions of GF? Nice try, but not even close.
fraudulent misrepesentation is a criminal act ?
Do a search on google, you will see harlequin continued to sell buccament bay units through its network of agents with guaranteed buybacks and “defined exit strategies” in late 2012, just before going bankrupt..
these types of deals were offered by multiple agents. Harlequin had regular training events for its agents, training them how to sell the harlequin product. Dave Ames was not only fully aware of what was going on, he was coordinating it, and his locked up for fraud son fully approved of these sales tactics
Harlequin Property have just released this exciting new exit strategy of a Guaranteed 3 or 5 year BUY-BACK option for new investors from September 2012 …
HARLEQUIN PROPERTY GUARANTEED BUY-BACK OPTION*
Excellent news for new investors, Harlequin are offering investors a 3 or 5 year buy-back guarantee, for property sales over £150,000 (from main list price)
3 Year buy-back option – Example*
Marquis Estate – one bedroom ground floor Hillside apartment …
Current list price £210,000 (August 2012)
✔ 30% deposit – £63,000
✔ 3 years later HQ will buy back the apartment at (est.) £252,000
✔ Guaranteed buy back 30% = £75,600
Profit over the 3 years = £12,600 circa. 6.6%
The Fraud Act 2006 is well worth reading. It’s not very long. The fun bit, as far as some people might be concerned, is section 2.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/crossheading/fraud
I wonder what sort of contract Investors received when investing in a property with a “guaranteed buyback”, I wonder if it offered the same amount of protection offered to investors all those years earlier, when investing in the “100% finance scheme”.
Tort of deceit is going to be fun.
RL will be attending the agents meeting by proxy. It will be recorded.
Dave “after chucking you to RL , I am truly sorry. Please help me save me, er I mean Harlequin . That will deflect the claims …. honest”
The attending agents are going to be targeted. Of course, Dave will stand shoulder to shoulder with you all….
WTF is “An Attractive” redress option??????? Could someone please put the Ames family out of our misery…………….. Please …………
And WTF is this about contacting Bob Ladell about redress options, Bob I am Ames’s brother in law Ladell……….
@anonymous
What incredibly passes for sanity and reasonableness in the dodgy world of David Ames. He seems to think his ramblings make sense and that people will believe him. Only the desperate and deluded.
Will be interesting to see what happens in 12 / 24 months.
Even if Ames pulls off getting “Harlequin” financed & building again, he’ll just open himself up to 1,000’s of lawsuits through misrepresentation etc, not to mention SFO. Seems like he’s done a good move on RL by setting up his own trust; but you can’t destroy the facts – he’s taken 1,000’s of people to the cleaners through false promises & dodgy dealings.
The FAQ is “strewn with errors”:
Is there finance coming?
We believe so. We are confident that funding will be available to Harlequin shortly after the Trust is entered into
I am saving this for future reference. As with everything Harlequin, this will likely either be an outright lie, or will be twisted so much that it will not represent reality one iota
For the record, I don’t believe RL have been overly “confrontational”; they have been representing their clients, which is what solicitors are paid to do.
Although I have no personal issues with the Ames family, if they succeed, I feel so much anger & resentment towards how they’ve handled this whole thing that I can’t imagine they’ll get away scott-free.
The reason they constantly get all these “anonymous negative & defamatory” “PR campaigns” is because they make incredible promises up front, sucker people into buying their “investments” through appearing to be legitimate (mainly through paying celebrities & holding expensive “launch” parties), and consequently under-delivering. It’s the SAME STORY every fucking time – even their customers on TripAdvisor say the same; all sizzle, no steak.
Even now, Harlequin are playing the same tricks. No specifics (like where the £400m has gone); just speculative & generalized promises to hook the desperate buyers. The reason Harlequin is a charade is because if you weigh up the FACTS, they’ve taken £400m; built 100 cabanas in Buccament Bay, bought Blu & that’s it. They haven’t even registered the land properly.
Even Bob Storey has to see the light some day (respect Bob, I am not insulting you here). David Ames has spent the money so unwisely that Harlequin are unable to fulfil their obligations to 99% of their investors. Even if it’s true that 1 person has title in BB, that’s 1 person out of 6000+ who invested in good faith.
So whether they get this trust going is actually just another smokescreen for what’s really happened – that David Ames has built his own assets with the money of “investors”. Even with the trust, if Ames sold Buccament Bay tomorrow, he’s the only shareholder of that RDC, so he’ll be the one who pockets the proceeds. The “trust” just puts security on the land – doesn’t stop the transfer of ownership to someone else. Think about that one.
I’m especially interested to see what their “attractive” alternative redress option is. Redress is for the “investors” who were duped into handing money with the promise of deadlines & a hugely successful company; and who just want their money back.
Unless it involves share allocation or PLC, I don’t see any reasonable way to achieve “redress” in the immediate future for investors, unless by suing an insurer / SIPP / IFA
I simply cannot understand how the SFO has not moved against Dave Ames yet. There has been clear misrepresentation from day 1. Dave Ames has tried to gloss over the 100% finance scam by blaming the economy and HIS choice of developers / accountants etc.
But we can find no shortage of misrepresentation to the present day, even on video Dave Ames tried to convince invesors that external finance.
was not needed. At the first investors meeting, he suggested that repayments of loans could resume…. really Dave ? … and with what money would they be paid.
Robert Storey, what do you have to say on the matter of misrepresentation and legal care of duty ?
RL know where the “missing” £50m has gone. They are simply choosing not to say anything because it’s far more fun to keep the forumites in suspense.
It would also show that the £400m taken by HP is a bit of an understatement.
Perhaps they’re keeping that bit quiet to use as leverage with HP/Ames.
Which is worse —a forumite or a morphodite ??
FFS I’m not a lawyer. I have no opinion because I don’t know the legal issues. Now if you asked me the merits of 442 vs 433 then that might be a reasonable question.
Forumites & morphodites are all equal in the eyes of Harlequin, as long as you have money to invest ( throw away ), they’ll find the right solution for you ( them )
Robert Storey,
so as long as you are not a qualified expert within a field, you do not comment, For future reference, what fields are you actually qualified in and so are able to comment on ?.
@joining Matt soon. What a ridiculous comment. I’m an investor which is good enough.
@JMS
I have no idea why the SFO think that this it is acceptable to let this shambles roll on. I suppose there are a few options;
1. It takes a seriously long time to gather the evidence sufficient for them to decide whether a prosecution will stick (they have had their fingers burned before in this respect). I suppose the multi-jurisdictional nature of this case and the frankly shambolic record keeping makes it a tough job to follow the trail.
2. They have gathered all the evidence and decided there is not case to answer. This is unlikely because they would take it down from their website if this was the case.
3. They really don’t care about protecting the public and will finish this in their own good time. Possibly they are understaffed
Any other suggestions?
@ BS Bobby – Well being an investor seems to be good enough for you to be an expert in everything that supports the HP story and a complete dumbass in every other field of enquiry. How convenient for you to bleat your ignorance in matters that might actually cast some doubt on the claims being made by HP
RL will use their statutory demand clients to take Ames out.
They all waited for the trust and the due diligence. They have nothing to wait for now.
4. They may be waiting to see what happens RE finance. They may want to assure the “investors” whos investment is in real jeopardy; hence waiting for the dust to settle before launching their case.
Remember, when / if the SFO acts, it will put Harlequin in the spotlight, which will generally have an adverse affect in the short term; relatively good effect in the long term. Once finance is in place, it will give the company breathing space to help the investors for the long term, whereas without it, the whole house of cards will collapse
@Anon pathetic. I did not say I did not know about every other line of enquiry, only legal matters. Reading is obviously not your strong point is it.
“Ex. Law #265: “If a herdsman, to whose care cattle or sheep have been entrusted, be guilty of fraud and make false returns of the natural increase, or sell them for money, then shall he be convicted and pay the owner ten times the loss”
At a loss why the possibility of finance is still discussed as an option. It is patently ridiculous to consider for a millisecond that any institution would touch this with a very long barge pole. As stated before, any body who wants BB just wait for the liquidation and buy without any complications.
why should investors even care about financing ?
their contracts are void, they have no legal claim over new hotel rooms
that are built on the resort.
‘I did not say I did not know about every other line of enquiry, only legal matters. Reading is obviously not your strong point is it.’
Writing is not your strong point Shilly Bob is it?
makes
If you are going to bore us all with your childish criticism then at least try and get your own comments correct. What a muppet. Troll. Hahaha lol
And you may want to review your use of the apostrophe. Put down your Guardian newspaper, stop thinking about your prep school matron and concentrate on adding something to the thread. Perhaps being spanked as a child contributed to your life as a useless troll.
What’s your excuse Bob!
The world would be a far, far better place if RS heeded his own
advice.
Don’t read the Guardian and never had dreams about a prep school matron. Mind you I am not that moronic to pick up people on grammar or spelling. I don’t consider myself to be that superior.
Can you find a hobby ? Jacking off comes to mind.
That obviously comes to your mind. Guess you are sexually oppressed if that’s what you are thinking of.
Left hand, I Pad, right hand, old tommy.Trolling in between. You are a sad case Bob.
Funny that you thought the jacking off comment was directed to you Bob,,,you were not named in that post. Ha Ha Ha ..Lol Lol..
Ooh Bob the fearless keyboard warrior has been to Lidl and necked a box of Lambrusco.
Shilly boy.
Yes spelling has improved. Well done.
Oh dear Anon 6.52. No your moron it did not come to my mind, it was a comment aimed at the mind of the poster. A tad too subtle for you to comprehend. Hahaha lol lol.
This thread has once again become the “Bob and Everyone Else
Against Me Show”. Seems nothing has changed much from last summer…
I’m beginning to think that the UK authorities are a lot of sadistic teasers.
Yep it was all sensible on here until Anon 3.53 decided to bring me into it. All the fault of the army of Anonymous posters on here.
Glad you agree that the posts about misrepresentation and the ridiculous notion of finance etc are sensible.
Robert,
In business , the figures tell you how you are doing.
The harlequin business model ( dave’s dream )
9000 hotel rooms in 4 – 5 years,
Investors enjoy 4 weeks vacation
High capital appreciation
guaranteed returns
guaranteed buybacks.
Investors deposits returned.
thousands of jobs created
loans paid by harlequin
guaranteed finance
the reality ( our nightmare )
400 million spent
100 hotel rooms built in 8 years
Buccament Bay reportedly unprofitable
multiple litigation cases
Harlequin & Dave Ames reputation in tatters.
Misrepresentation
No duty of care
timescales proved to be unrealistic & not viable.
reckless spending
Total lack of due diligence
Total lack of accountability
finance accounts not up to date
no proof of finance.
Investors left with loans they cannot afford.
Pensioners facing uncertain future.
Some Investors losing homes
Complete lack of transparency.
Poor choice of developer, staff & accountants.
Agents that sold investment, abandoned their clients.
Harlequin asking for more money from investors, they
want £50 from us, so we are entitled to own a fraction
of the resort that we paid for.
Robert , do you have anything to say, of any value ?
As I said, but you chose to ignor, I had no involvement in this discussion until Anon 3.53, decided to confuse a poster with me. So you really could have saved your monologue above or directed it at someone who might be interested in your nightmare. I am not.
Spent the last 2 hours reading all posts on this thread and now have no idea what my name is or which side of the fence I sit…….#confused.com
So long as your spelling and grammar are spot on then you should be ok. That’s all that interests some people.
Well Bob, you just wrote (9:43) you have no interest in the nightmare in which
case begs the question — so what are you doing here?
Well Anon try reading. How many more times do I have to refer you back to the post of 3.53!!!!! FFS
So what does GF have to do with the nightmare?
Answer – Nothing
Dave Ames and only Dave Ames is responsible.
So Robert,
I am confused, you participate avidly in virtually every harlequin related forum , but don’t want to be drawn into discussions about the Harlequin investment. Why are you here ?
Is it to fill a void in your life, is getting into petty squabbles the nearest thing you have to a relationship.
Not since david Icke, have i seen someone make such a spectacle of themselves, You are spending hours participating in discussions about topics you openly admit you do not understand, are not qualified to talk about, and have absolutely no interest in.
I have seen you on the RL Forum, with your pal ingham, jumping on people that talk negatively about harlequin, and constantly berating people for not adding value, while you spend hours, days, months writing drivel, that does nothing but get people’s backs up.
you are then surprised when they do not respond positively do your pointless comments.
Were you up early, off to do your paper round? No wonder you are confused. You have not “seen” me on the RL forum. You cannot “see” someone who participates in a forum. Again your monologue is both inaccurate and silly. Yes you certainly are confused, and it’s all of your own making.
Poor old silly old Bob – he has lost the plot along with his money.
Haha if only you knew the truth. I have lost exactly nothing. Lol
On the day of the first Super Harlequin Investor Trust sign-up meeting, RL remove digit and send out letters.
All,
We have written to both David Ames & Bob Ladell to seek clarifications, so we can advise our clients on the Harlequin trust proposal.
If you require the “repayment” option, please email harlequin@regulatorylegal.co.uk with the subject “Repayment”.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Links follow
1st RL letter
Letter to David Ames – 23.6.14 http://api.ning.com/files/Y-6c8O6EPx8YJcQY69KrzD0MogoziacfV9kcUOrWvjzZtXyuSUeQfWgfE3H7wfoF-VmKjhcifglNBbuVFs-zxfDMfegPwjWp/LettertoDavidAmes23614.pdf
2nd RL letter
Letter to Bob Ladell, PHIG 23.6.14 http://api.ning.com/files/Y-6c8O6EPx*ocTUJtfFpMMlv46qYN0BYmSXn8IArUINhfQdbPyiWCZLVvVDBLk2Olveu1iOac45Wsp0vV7C1hmJjnzE-7oNq/LettertoBobLadell23614.pdf
And finally
The RL update http://api.ning.com/files/Y-6c8O6EPx**CFpNFICrIh79EuTN7ksIirCYdqsKBoTCohi*SGGdLhsw6f1nu41ki*UtENSj9llSj401BaMc39sxuIAcXuqd/Update23614.pdf
RL do have a nerve. Perhaps they would like to know the details of everyone’s completion details.
@ It’s all in the SIPPs
RL aren’t asking for details, simply confirmation of whether the deal on offer to Bob Ladell is preferential/non-standard. That’s a very big difference.
What RL say is:
PHIG received monies from sales agents in late 2013 to find a “solution” for them. Effectively, PHIG acted for sales agents; and
Bob Ladell is completing at Buccament Bay. In itself, there is nothing wrong with this. However, we understand that the completion terms offered by Harlequin are preferential.
In this context, it does seem hard to understand how Bob Ladell from PHIG could act independently on behalf of investors. We have made these points to Mr Ames as the trust document gives the trustees wide powers over investors’ rights.
That seems a reasonable position if Bob L’s position is to represent the investors. He needs to be whiter than white, with no conflict of interest.
And what has this got to do with RL exactly?
BS Bob,
Why are you posting as It’s all in the SIPPs AND Robot Storey?
‘Haha if only you knew the truth. I have lost exactly nothing. Lol ‘
So what ARE you doing here then?
What’s it got to do with you. If fact what exactly is your point. Even when I don’t post anything you still post about me. What are YOU doing on here?
It has everything to do with RL – they are responsible for the people who want truthful answers from Harlequin, as to make an “informed decision” on what to do
As confusing as RL’s position can seem, it’s my opinion they provide a proxy between investors & Harlequin. If Harlequin are going to promise all the outlandish claims, such as “repayments” (which I’ve not seen before), I’d certainly want as much information up front as possible before signing 5 years of my life away
God save the investors who sign with Ames based on these promises. He’s not put forward ANY finance options, nor budgeted the £400m. Big promises always seem to wash away cold facts, so let’s see how it goes
No what they are trying to do is protect their client base. They cannot represent the cash investors, but cannot stand the thought to lose them to their opposition.
Answer the question Bobby Bullshit.
@anonymous
“They cannot represent the cash investors, but cannot stand the thought to lose them to their opposition.” HP is not opposition to RL. One is allegedly a property company and the other is a solicitor. RL is in a no lose position and HP are in a no win position. It’s all irrelevant, liquidation is inevitable.
Roll on November. Or maybe October.
You’ve got a point there Anoun 1:28pm
I wonder what Shipley’s have to say about these shenanigans?
Bob Lidil is after money from whoever will pay him, why does anyone need a bee keeper anyway?
Bob can move trees and work with nature – worry not investors!!!!
How much management talk can that man come out with, what a total load of utter bollocks. 😉
HP see no problem putting out updates that any idiot should be able to see through. They know that their investors have a proven track record of believing anything and everything they say.
It is that suckers list that RL have been desperate to acquire.
Anonymous – RL have the SIPP list. They are not bothered about any other list.
Looks like others are seeing the light now.
YEAH YEAH YEAH RL are the bad people in this fiasco. At least somebody is going to recover some of their money from this FRAUD. Pretty much every cash investor was screwed the moment they handed over their cash.
YEAH YEAH YEAH, RL have not been totally up front about what they are able to achieve for their suckers, sorry clients. They were constantly asked what their plan was for the cash investors but constantly evaded the question. They had no plan except, give us another £1500 and we will give you a consultation. Naughty naughty.
@It’s all in the SIPPs
Yes they have woken up to the fact Harlequin is going bust and Ames will meet his son.:)
No plan? Who says you. Eg. non registered advisor. I can think of one now that lives in Belfast got property in Scotland. Got assets to go after. How would you find that out and go after them without paying for it? What would your advice and options be for cash investors?
@anonymous
That’s not true. The updates on the RL site says people can come for a chat for free.
RL are a business, much like any other. I would not want to pay anymore, but then again, by spending nothing, I do not expect anything.
@anonymous 5.49
Was that it? Your total solution for cash investors was to take a dig and run away. You don’t have to be too bright to figure out what the options available are for cash investors. The most obvious is for HP to deliver what they were contracted to do. Not possible, they simply don’t have the cash and even if they were successful with litigation it is a small fraction of what is required. External finance is pure fantasy, always was. Otherwise DA would have never needed “investors money”.
What options does that leave?
No you got that wrong Anoun – the agents are going to get sued and get chucked out of their houses.
I have started action against mine, he will feel the pain 😉
He has assets – confirmed, I’m getting in first ho ho ho
I don’t care if he ends up on the street, I have money I will take him to the cleaners. He has assets not no cash to fight me.
taking a leaf out of bully boys Ames’s book.
@AB
I was just giving one option and replying to an HP troll. Torte deceit against the advisor(salesman) has the best chance of recovery providing they have some assets of course. Go get him and screw him! He wasn’t thinking of you when he was spending his commission. The unregistered “advisor” who moved to Belfast took 160k in commissions.
@AB – Congratulations for doing what should have been done
several years ago. Good luck and God Bless.
Ames made a very big mistake some years ago, and will live to regret taking on the wrong people, 😉 has it dawned on anyone that Ames and his now semi functional wife will be going on 69-70 when the initial 5 year period is up in his proposed trust,
So who will carry the torch, the idiot Dan Ames, the guy who is afraid of his own shadow, Matt Ames on his release from Prison or that rather simple daughter of the Ames’s, all the siblings being an example of what inbreeding does.
Yeah sure banks are lining up to bail out this wholly dysfunctional inbred family,
DA is 61?
DA was born in 1951 he apparently was also 61 Two Years ago?
My agent is trying the old sympathy card, saying he relied on information Harlequin gave him – shame that will cost him his home.
i wonder how long it will be before the toxic tool turns on the agents and claims he never sold it?
My agent said Ames has already mentioned this albeit in jest.
Ames and his family are a waste of skin.
Good luck to anyone thinking of suing using the tort of deceit avenue, you’ll need it; and deep pockets. It is one of the hardest type of case to win. It is not a breach of any specific law but a breach of common law and you will have to prove that the other party deliberately lied about a specific fact and will either have had to have been documented at the time or in front of independent witnesses.
It is the “fact” aspect that is most difficult, anything that could be construed as an opinion doesn’t count so if an agent said things like “you can’t lose” or Dave Ames is a successful businessman or any other subjective statement it won’t count. It would have to be something like “Dave Ames has never been a bankrupt” i.e. something that is a matter of record.
Anyone who thinks they have a good chance pursuing this avenue should ask RL to take on the case on a No Win No Fee basis. Lawyers never take difficult cases on NWNF so it’s one way to gauge your chances. Don’t misunderstand me, the agents need to be brought to book but spending loads of money to get nowhere isn’t the way to do it.
I have deep pockets. I will make my agent pay and suffer.
20 years on , how self regulation failed the maxwell pensioners
http://www.pensionsworld.co.uk/pw/article/20-years-on-how-self-regulation-failed-the-maxwell-pensioners-12314001
and what about the harlequin pensioners ?
It was noted that you could get compensation when your train was late, but nothing when a person lost their pension.
Initial government response was summarised as “we cannot legislate to eliminate fraud or compensate the victims”. Our reaction could be summarised as “the system of pension protection you introduced gave the keys to the burglar”
Dave Ames, is the modern day Robert Maxwell, I suggest If it was not for the late intervention of the financial authorities, many more pensioners would now be suffering.
Harlequin pensioners will fare better as many invested through SIPPs, and are also covered by the FSCS / FOS.
Dave has to do a deal.
My RL contact tells me they have £50m+ of repayment requests ready to go.
Which financier would put money into an insolvent company with £50m being formally demanded ?
That’s right…. no one.
@ Kraven.
The only investment is the one when an offer is made to the liquidator.The plan is in motion.
S&F
I went along today, Ames got a right stuffing from the agents.
Brethren All,
The plan is moving along well.
We have the pre-pack offer ready to go.
As every con artist knows, you can only con a dishonest or a greedy person. Just being naive isn’t enough.
The dishonest target thinks he is “in on the game” the greedy person can see nothing but the rewards being offered.
Don’t know why I am posting that on here after skimming through the posts on Harlequin over the last year or so; just seems apt somehow..
@KST
I would be happy to meet, sorry to part, comrade.
The Ames plan?
Hi Angela… Paul (see other comments above here) is right, a pre-pack is where a company’s assets are pre-packaged and a deal agreed to sell the business/assets (and therefore shedding liabilities) prior to putting it into administration. This usually happens very quickly and saves the risks and costs of a trading administration. HMSSE have been in a trading administration for some time now though, so you couldn’t really call it a pre-pack. Doesn’t mean a deal wasn’t agreed beforehand, subject to certain things happening. which haven’t happened yet, but that’s hard to discover. My explanation above is more to do with developer loans and how they work, and a ‘heads up’ to anyone who thinks an outside investor and building the resorts is the answer to their problems. It could actually be the start of another, worse. nightmare!! So it’s not really anything to do with HMSSE directly. However, the RDC’s (Resort Development Companies), which own the land and contracts, could be pre-packed and their assets sold off quickly prior to administration/liquidation. I haven’t seen the posts on the other forum, but perhaps it’s the RDC’s they are referring to rather than HMSSE Ltd. Any buyer would want the 5yr waiver though to be able to build the properties and enforce the ‘developer loan’ compound interest per my post which would net many, many more millions from investors.
My explanation isn’t just a possibility… it’s a fact, based on the contracts. The only question mark is what would be the interest rate for developer loans and how long would they take between laying the slab and completing on the property. Even at an interest rate of 2% that would add £20k to the cost over 8mths. Times that by 9000 contracts and there’s an extra £180m. At 5% it’s an extra £450m in ‘income’ – more than has been taken from investors already.
Hope that helps! 🙂
You will all be mighty surprised when you know who and where pre-pack meetings have been taking place.
Never in a million years could you guess.
All I will say is that English is not their mother tongue.
Guinness will be on tap.
Fcuk No way, the Irish builder is going after BB?
Ames would drop dead if that happened.
Well, now the proverbial cat is out of the bag, are we saying Ames has done a pre-pack deal with the Irish builder?
😉
It would seem that the time has come for a significant decision to be made, by all of us, the investors.
For a long time (nearly a year), The Trust option has been publicly stated and promoted by all parties as the only option available to ‘protect’ our investment. And, indeed, to deliver it, albeit later than originally planned.
This has not been done before in an unbiased manner and is your opportunity to make your views known, individually, rather than in a group meeting where you may or may not have time for your views to be stated.
It now appears that Regulatory Legal are no longer of this same view – redress being stated as their only option (15/06/2014). Their ‘Counter Offer’ (13/06/2014) is no more than a re-statement of the Trust as presented by them and Harlequin and supported by PHIG in Q4 2013 – with the exception of the removal of Dave Ames. That removal can only have one outcome – the collapse of Harlequin and all our investments. This is a complete contradiction to their last statement prior to the release of the ‘Counter Offer’, that their offer was not liquidation. That statement can’t have been true.
PHIG still believe that that the best way of securing our investment is to build the resorts. This is the best chance of delivering far more than any other option. We have discussed other options with various professionals including legal, accountants, builders / developers. All of them have stated that the only real way any developer makes money for itself and its investors is to build.
PHIG has stated many times that \“There is just one source of funds to enable everyone to achieve their objectives, whether that is to obtain a refund and exit the projects or to achieve the income stream originally sought :- The successful completion and long term operation of all Harlequin resorts\”.
We firmly believe this remains the case.
Even if all the Caribbean assets were available right now to be placed in the Trust, they alone just cannot return all the monies invested, even if they were sold at a profitable market rate. By placing the assets that are available into the Trust, they will be ring fenced and protected from creditors for the benefit of those who choose to enter the Trust as beneficiaries. It offers a better total security than the zero any of us have now. By graciously accepting the available assets and then working WITH Harlequin we can gradually bring further assets into the Trust as they are registered and able to be settled.
Taking any approach of “Alternative Options” that are in any way aggressive or damaging to the Company are directly causing damage to all investors, including those taking action. By working WITH Harlequin to enhance our investment, that value has a chance of steadily increasing to the full expected value.
However, whilst offering some security, the purpose of the Trust is not to repay our investments. It is intended as a means of securing external funding to enable the development and completion of the resorts.
So, we are seeking to obtain a clear understanding of the views of the majority of the investors, rather than making any assumptions at this critical time.
Consequently, we are hosting an online questionnaire to establish this understanding. It is short and straightforward, but we do need ALL Harlequin Investors to respond. We also ask that you provide minimal details so that you can be validated as an investor, because we want an honest result from investors, that is not skewed by multiple responses from one or more investors, or from anyone that is not an investor.
All responses from genuine Harlequin investors will be counted – not some subset only available to a select few – and the questionnaire will be held open until at least 06-07-2014.
The primary aims of the the Pro Harlequin Investors’ Group are:
Work with Harlequin companies worldwide to help, wherever possible, to ensure the project meets all published objectives
Present a united response to all negative press and action by individuals and minority groups
Take independent action to address / redress unfounded and inaccurate press reporting in all media, newspapers and TV
Engage constructively with regulatory bodies, the SIPP companies and IFAs to regain their support
You will be asked for your name, email address, post code and at least one location that you have invested in.
If you share our aims above and wish to support Harlequin, you may join the PHIG membership at the same time by selecting yes below. If not, your details will only be used to validate you as a genuine investor.
The special deal Bob, the independent Bob, brother in law Bob, Bob do anything for a ‘Bob’ Bob, Agents paying Bob, Bob the £500 million valuation Bob. Bob the nob Bob
What a great bet ‘Bob’ is LOL
ho ho ho to all the people, including RL, who questioned whether Bob Ladell could be a trustee of the HP trust, they conveniently forgot that GF was, or is, going to be a trustee of the RL trust!! some very short memories out there!
Its all a joke..there will be no Trust..none.
Here comes part 3 of the scam and Ames exit strategy as posted on here 2 years ago.
Anon, can you explain the strategy to us?
All,
Stalemate / Negotiations / Settlement
It is clear that the clash of words on the updates is no benefit to anyone. We are equally responsible as everyone else for this. It is causing confusion, which at such an important time is counter productive.
Investors are split into two camps, those who are prepared to waive their rights for 5 years and those who are not. Those who are not, are in the main RL clients. RL clients are not “bad” because they want repayment or have been offered a refund and want to obtain it. The promised new finance will help these clients to be repaid and allow everyone else to move on with the next 5 year phase. That sounds equitable to us.
We have asked investors who want repayment to email us on harlequin@regulatorylegal.co.uk . We will be sending a factsheet next week to those who have emailed us.
Join the trust
If you want to join the next 5 year phase, please join the trust as soon as possible. This will leave the balance seeking repayment via the new finance. There needs to be a quantifiable sum for any financier to work with. The sooner we are at this figure, the better.
Timescale
July 2014 is the month which will make or break Harlequin. We are committed to negotiating for a fair solution for our clients. We will make ourselves available to investors, agents etc to explain our position. More importantly, our team will be ready to engage with Harlequin as soon as they reach the conclusion that compromise is the only way.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
The latest in the game of wiff-waff.
All,
Stalemate / Negotiations / Settlement
It is clear that the clash of words on the updates is no benefit to anyone. We are equally responsible as everyone else for this. It is causing confusion, which at such an important time is counter productive.
Investors are split into two camps, those who are prepared to waive their rights for 5 years and those who are not. Those who are not, are in the main RL clients. RL clients are not “bad” because they want repayment or have been offered a refund and want to obtain it. The promised new finance will help these clients to be repaid and allow everyone else to move on with the next 5 year phase. That sounds equitable to us.
We have asked investors who want repayment to email us on harlequin@regulatorylegal.co.uk . We will be sending a factsheet next week to those who have emailed us.
Join the trust
If you want to join the next 5 year phase, please join the trust as soon as possible. This will leave the balance seeking repayment via the new finance. There needs to be a quantifiable sum for any financier to work with. The sooner we are at this figure, the better.
Timescale
July 2014 is the month which will make or break Harlequin. We are committed to negotiating for a fair solution for our clients. We will make ourselves available to investors, agents etc to explain our position. More importantly, our team will be ready to engage with Harlequin as soon as they reach the conclusion that compromise is the only way.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
All,
Stalemate / Negotiations / Settlement
It is clear that the clash of words on the updates is no benefit to anyone. We are equally responsible as everyone else for this. It is causing confusion, which at such an important time is counter productive.
Investors are split into two camps, those who are prepared to waive their rights for 5 years and those who are not. Those who are not, are in the main RL clients. RL clients are not “bad” because they want repayment or have been offered a refund and want to obtain it. The promised new finance will help these clients to be repaid and allow everyone else to move on with the next 5 year phase. That sounds equitable to us.
We have asked investors who want repayment to email us on harlequin@regulatorylegal.co.uk . We will be sending a factsheet next week to those who have emailed us.
Join the trust
If you want to join the next 5 year phase, please join the trust as soon as possible. This will leave the balance seeking repayment via the new finance. There needs to be a quantifiable sum for any financier to work with. The sooner we are at this figure, the better.
Timescale
July 2014 is the month which will make or break Harlequin. We are committed to negotiating for a fair solution for our clients. We will make ourselves available to investors, agents etc to explain our position. More importantly, our team will be ready to engage with Harlequin as soon as they reach the conclusion that compromise is the only way.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Time for some nice music
Brethren,
RL hold the cards. They have repayment demands (replace the word repayment for Statutory shortly) for a huge amount of people.
When I spoke to their office, they told me that the harlequin@ inbox was so full it could not accept new mail. That’ll be thousands of people then.
No financier can touch this. It is toxic. At some point, someone at Harlequin will have to tell Dave its time to compromise. Dave’s error is doing this after he has not got the numbers for his trust. RL will exploit this.
After some of the updates, RL will look to take his trousers down.
S&F,
Bro Boaz
So we have 3 posters who post the same crap from RL. Any comment on the RL communication at all? How about, why are RL being so conciliatory now? Do RL now realise there is new finance coming?
RL are now paying particular attention to the consequences of their advice to clients.
Long gone are the days of the RL “Trust or Bust” campaign. They’re no longer quite so quick to ridicule those not choosing to join the trust as “choosing to do nothing and forcing Harlequin into liquidation”.
Those of us who’ve been following this for years (myself since 2006, I’m happy to say) are fully aware of the mounting background evidence gathered by media and authorities. Actually, enough had been gathered years ago to shut this scam down and to have left a bigger pool of money to share out amongst investors.
How come Ames the Bastard is allowed to carry on spending the investors money to keep the business afloat? Why aren’t investors assets now frozen?
RL believe there could be finance yes because Dave said it, furthermore Dave said that as soon as finance is available he will commence refunds, So RL have said fine, they have about £50-60 million worth of clients looking for refunds, and RL are currently compiling the list for Ames to give to his financiers so they can pay the clients back as promised. 🙂 😉
Good God….Stop the madness
Anon @ 10:25pm
IMO RL have not made any concession to the “trust or bust” mantra. They’ve put forward their own “counter offer”, which is a trust; Harlequin have chosen to do their own.
I see all their current rhetoric as sarcasm. Who in the right mind will use fresh investment money to pay off other investors? That’s a ponzi scheme. I think RL are being rather tongue-in-cheek about compiling an “orderly list”, as they are essentially saying:
“Oh! You have finance? You sure? Oh! You can offer “repayments”? Okay – here’s our list of people who want a repayment. If you don’t got the goods, we’ll use “our” redress route, which will probably mean liquidation”
The “tone” of their recent updates is very weighted towards being sarcastic in my opinion
@Bro Boaz
We are taking drastic steps. We have seen the light.
S&F
The light is the only true way. You are to be commended.
The revulsion felt by the brethren towards Ames, who is a Cowan to masonry is palpable. Please prepare the petard on which to hoist Mr Ames.
RL’s newest outpouring:
All,
Sometimes we have to spell things out thereby giving away our negotiation position. This happens to be one of these times.
1. We want radical amendment to the existing trust to make it deal with those wanting repayment.
2. We do not believe Harlequin can undo the land title / solvency issues unilaterally. They need an agreement from all investors to do this.
3. If you are convinced at the PHIG / Harlequin stance, please join the trust. It would be against our advice, but so be it.
4. If you want to be in the repayment category, then do not join the trust.
5. If you are unsure, do nothing yet.
There would be nothing to stop Harlequin (1) financier (2) and (3) repayment investors from reaching terms. If this happens then the number of investors joining the trust will increase substantially. We will change our advice to recommend all investors join if such a deal can be made.
To do this, we have to deal with the “elephant in the room” eg those people wanting to exit. Harlequin’s current approach ignores these people. They have offered a “take it or leave it” deal. This has been done on the basis that agents and scared investors will sign up. This has not happened. Investors are a little more savvy than that.
Harlequin have to deal with the people wanting repayment. Every update has made it clear that finance is nearly there. Well, if this is true, then bringing the financier to the table should not be an issue. If this is sales hype, then it will not happen.
Those who sign up will soon realise they have waived their rights for 5 year, for nothing. Imagine the backlash then. Fortunately, we will avoid this backlash as we have told people not to do it.
It is simply wrong to ignore people who have legitimate reason to be repaid. These people are not doing anything wrong at all. They are asking for the contract they signed to be honoured. Nothing more. Does anyone think Ames will not seek to enforce the 5 year waiver or the gagging clause ? Contracts have to be observed by all (or by no one).
Harlequin have bodged settlements in the past. One client we met yesterday invested £60k approx and has received £2k back. Why should they write off £58k to keep PHIG, “we love Dave” investors happy ? No, they should seek to be repaid as they have acted in good faith.
Harlequin will end up in liquidation is this is issue is not dealt with. At present, it is not. However, putting the slanging match to one side, those with the power are those who have not opted in to the Harlequin trust. It is now the time to use that power wisely or accept that the Harlequin story has finished.
Have a good weekend.
Chris Corney, Walton, and Fatcett are all senior Freemasons, this is fact.
Chris Corney wears one of Masonic rings – I have seen it.
They are working against investors, pulling strings to bring down Harlequin. I think the authorities could be involved too.
Freemasons are greedy evil people.
Sadly, the all stick together – I happen to know some of the above comments hide Masonic secret phrases.
They want Harlequin to fail so other mason can buy it off fellow brothers.
After reading the DD report that RL have published, I don`t understand how they could entertain or suggest Investors have any dealings at all with Harlequin, even if their is a “radical amendment to the existing Trust”.
RL “it is clear the clash of words on the updates is helping no one” Then just shut the f**k up! Again another statement from RL. For gods sake Fatchett, is this coming from your muppets or you? Yes we have seen the video recording from your minions ands it’s embarresing.
It’s time that Ames was shut up, he stole 400 million from yes admittedly gullible stupid and in the most part greedy investors. But it’s time Ames was shut up. An illiterate ignorant thief, like his wife and son,
Stop whining you bunch of thicko’s, sign the trust then shut the *uck up
Give Ames a chance at leat he has the balls to face investors who should have paid the 70% balance in the first place.
not one have you lost money yet have you?
like old washerwomen, shut ya gob
washerwomen
this is the term used by my agent when myself and many other investors started to question the harlequin business model. Simply a bunch of washer women that don’t understand property investment !!!!!,
nobody has lost their money, ?
so, I paid £130,000, for 3 contracts,
how much will you give me for the contracts whatthefuss. ?…
do you a deal, you buy them for £100,000, and sell them for £130,000
and you can keep the £30,000 profit. If I have not lost any money, they should actually be worth more than I paid all those years ago, taking inflation into account.
even if I wanted to raise 70%, to give to the convicted fraudster’s father and his unstable wife.there is no property to raise a mortgage on…
WTF, is the continuing problems with the airport going to have a negative impact, seem to remember Dave stating before the development could not be expanded before the opening of the airport.
I see that the Punch and Judy show continues, can’t believe that it hasn’t reached some kind of conclusion yet. A contact in Bim who has worked as project manager and QS on a number of high profile residential and commercial contracts (all successfully completed I might add) tells me that there is no interest in financing new developments from overseas investors as the travel market remains depressed in the Caribbean.
I’m amazed that no investors seem to have bothered to go out there and find out exactly what is happening in the business at the moment. The DD doesn’t seem to have much to offer on the state of the business that HP are trying to market too, as ever the stupidity of the ‘build it and they will come’ mentality is all pervasive.
SIPP investors looking for redress through insurance claims may get a nasty shock once the loss adjusters examine the cases too.
@whatthefuss
Please can you explain where the Harlequin business will be in 5 years even if 100% join the trust?
The facts remain that only a fraction of Buccament Bay has been constructed with £400m. To get the ball rolling again, Harlequin need a major injection of capital (£50m – £80m) to cover building alone. This is discounting the “guaranteed virtual mortgages” offered to every investor, the refunds / repayments & ongoing operating costs.
Even if *you* think the investors are a “bunch of thickos”, they have entered into contracts which, in my opinion, have been mis sold & misrepresented. Case in point being the availability of the so-sought-after “guaranteed / virtual mortgage”. The reason you haven’t received your 70% is because Harlequin have not fulfilled their part of the bargain on two fronts – the majority of units have not been constructed & there is currently no finance available for investors to take ownership. If you didn’t promise virtual mortgages, you’d have never convinced any of the hard-working investors to put money into the company. That’s why some people have multiple contracts.
I have yet to see *any* projections, budgets, forecasts; or ANY accounts for that matter. I have not seen any numbers for the operating assets, apart from the Tailormade numbers which appeared on here, and certainly have not seen any fact-based financial forecasting which you’d expect from any company looking to raise the type of money Harlequin is seeking.
I highly doubt the existence of a “financier”. The hotel management company might be a PR win, but will provide minimal value to enhance the value of the investments in the long term, and there, as ever, is nothing being said by Harlequin itself.
Bottom line – the management isn’t up to the job, and, it’s my opinion, that they misrepresented their offering, a criminal offence http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/2
Now @whatthefuss, can you please enlighten us as to how “big balls” Ames plans to fix his mess? I’d like specific details please. Like how you plan to register the land properly?
Richard Ingham, you are a bigger cu*t than your bum chum Ames.
@BBaywatch, so now you have a QS mate who knows all about investment banking. What an asset he must be knowing all about the world of investment. And your statement about no investor has been to find out what is happening is beyond belief. As usual scatter gun statements with no thought.
@ Anonymous 5:17pm
Limb b of clause 2 is a surprisingly low hurdle. It doesn’t require that the person knows the representation to be false, only that they know it might be false. I am sure that this could be made to stick. So when a certain person standing in front of a camera at Buccament Bay on 26 January 2012 said words to the effect of “behind the cameraman the marina is coming along well” this could easily be shown to be misrepresentation because, in fact, it was not.
It could be argued that the intent of that video was to encourage people to invest and the person making the statement could gain financially through them doing so.
sorry 26 January 2010 not 2012
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/video/bbupdate_20100126.php
And how about this one?
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/video/buccbay.php
This was from 18 May 2009 where the Chairman clearly says that they now have almost 100 acres of land. can anyone confirm whether this statement was true then and whether it is true now?
Davd Ames, you need to watch this video to remind yourself why people trusted you with their pensions, homes and life savings. Here’s a clue, it was not so you could spend 400 million and 8 years building an unprofitable resort. The best line is, people often forget, its not about how you put your money in, its how you get your money out, and how you get the incomes and the profits you are looking for
people forget that do they dave, you certainly forgot
( try pressing the captions button, the translation is nearly as funny as Daves explaination of the business model)
Dave ames certainly fooled a lot of people, and not just us ‘greedy investors’.
@Harlequin Business Model, which trust will you be joining. How about a bit of forward thinking advice rather than showing us your collection of old videos.
Anonymous
June 28, 2014 at 6:29 pm
do I detect the one handed iPad typist? – I think I do!
With a reaction like that I think that I can be confident that I’m right yet again.
There not my collection of videos,, they are harlequin’s. I will not be joining any trust., As far as forward thinking. , I honestly do not have a solution to solve the damage harlequin has done to it’s investors lives. Harlequin is a cancer, and I dont have the cure.
What solutions do you have then anonymous ? With no budget, huge debts, zero credibility and questions over the profitability of the resorts, not an easy one is it.
BBaywatch, well you have not been right about anything else in the past so I would not be sure about that. Do you not think it is a bit odd that a QS should have an insight into the inner workings of investment banking?
@ BS Bob at 8.24pm
I don’t agree at all. BBaywatch has added a rare element of sanity and calm business sense to these proceedings. Certainly so when compared to the ridiculous rubbish some spout in here.
Such as the statement “I am amazed no investors have been out to find out for themselves” Yes I’m sure that is absolutely true isn’t it.
By the way who is BS Bob?
@ Anonymous Bosch……thanks, I can see clearly now
Actually anonymous, I would question why we should be giving more money to harlequin. This business model has so far proved to be a complete disaster, there are far more viable investments out there
BS Bob is Sportingman on Trip Advisor, on BFP, He is , or has been FDNRM, 36, Bob Storey, and of course Anonymous…however his writing style and stupid comments give him away all the time.
He usually ends his “comment” with a question. Usually a stupid one. Easy as hell to spot this sad loser.
@Harlequin Business Model….thanks for this reminder…what a salesman! Give him credit , Davie can freaking sell…Trader Vics VP , Oasis VP, Pat Cash (can you call two tennis courts an Academy, really?. The wife of the PM of St Vincent (who was allegedly awarded the “contract” for decor of BB)
So , no Oasis, no Trader Vics, two Tennis courts for Cash to come for a week or two for free every year,Great success…Champagne for everyone..in plastic please.
You see even when I don’t comment on this blog I get to be the centre of attention. Some would call it an unhealthy fixation, I would just call you “anonymous” an anonymous troll. Now troll off and try and annoy someone else, because to me you are just a no mark.
He gets cross when he’s been rumbled
But I think we have to agree with him that any fixation with BS Bob is unhealthy, almost by definition.
Robert Storey, you are the centre of attention because people are jealous of your intelligence, good looks, the quality of your comments , your consistency, your compassion and are amazed how you can make money from your investment, whilst they have nothing.
I am blown away by the value you bring to this forum, and eagerly await your next comment. I just hope a Russian football club owner is following robert Storey, because I know he will be beating down Dave Ame’s door, with an open cheque book, desperate to invest in harlequin and the Ames family, and we will soon be having our loans paid and be enjoying 4 weeks vacation in one of harlequin’s top destinations. sitting back, enjoying our high monthly income and capital appreciation, reminiscing about the trivialities we currently concern ourselves with.
@HBM you see you have been rumbled. No one knows what I look like. However I can fully concur with your other observations. Humbly yours.
You look like Gilbert Gottfried – worse yet, you even sound like him.
Actually he does look a bit like GG, though BS is grey haired and fat
FAT!! Im like a frigging racing snake.!
FOR ANY INVESTOR HAVING SERIOUS CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT HARLEQUIN’S TRUST, DO ***NOT*** JOIN.
You are required to waiver your rights for 5 years in order to let Harlequin fix the blunders they caused. The sheer desperation of the following email should sum up the company for you. Being blunt – if you have to resort to signing legal documents “by email”, the situation really is untenable.
For the record, RL have *NEVER* recommended investors join Harlequin’s trust. NEVER would they let an investor join something without seeing real due diligence (accounting). Harlequin’s trust is nothing more than a ploy to cover their tracks. If you have questions, ask RLegal – http://harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk/
DO NOT JOIN THE HARLEQUIN TRUST.
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Harlequin’s latest:
“Join The Trust: simply fill in the enclosed document”
Dear All,
Join the Trust via email
In order to make it a lot easier for investors to join the Harlequin Investor Trust, we have prepared the Deed of Waiver as a secure Word document, into which investors can simply type their details, save it and email it back to us.
To enter the Trust, investors must fill in the Deed of Waiver and have it signed by a witness. To sign the document, we suggest entering your initials.
Please download the Deed of Waiver from the link below and fill in the sections on pages 6 and 7. You can only type into the highlighted sections you need to fill in.
Download the Deed of Waiver document
Once you have finished filling it in, please ensure you save the document and kindly email it back to us at: trust@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com
Regulatory Legal tells investors “join the Trust”, stops “update war”
Following our update on Wednesday, we are pleased to see that Regulatory Legal has publically agreed to cease the “update war” and given the green light for their database to join the Trust if they wish to.
There is one Trust for all investors
Harlequin understands there are investors with different goals, views and allegiances, but only Harlequin can provide the security for a Trust to secure your investment and this is the only Trust available. Therefore any pretenses or discussions about possible alternatives are irrelevant and unproductive.
Whatever “camp” you are in, whomever you like or dislike, only by joining the Harlequin Investment Trust can you receive security to protect against loss.
Whether you wish to complete on your investment or receive a refund, joining the Trust will enable Harlequin to acquire funding, accelerate development, and strengthen the business so it can strive to provide the desired results for every kind of investor.
Deadlines
Going forward, timescales will be determined by Harlequin and the Trustees as appropriate. We urge investors to sign up to the Deed of Waiver as soon as possible because the sooner all investors do so, the sooner all investments can be secured and Harlequin can continue its restructuring process.
However, we will advise when and if a deadline for entering the Trust by way of the Deed of Waiver has been set. The lack of a definitive deadline is due to the fact a significant number of investors do not receive Harlequin’s emails for various reasons, so we will require time to identify and reach them by post.
If you have any questions, please contact us on 01268 24 24 60 and one of the team will gladly assist.
Regards,
Harlequin
FOR ANY INVESTOR HAVING SERIOUS CONSIDERATIONS ABOUT HARLEQUIN’S TRUST, DO ***NOT*** JOIN.
You are required to waiver your rights for 5 years in order to let Harlequin fix the blunders they caused. The sheer desperation of the following email should sum up the company for you. Being blunt – if you have to resort to signing legal documents “by email”, the situation really is untenable; precarious at best.
For the record, RL have *NEVER* recommended investors join Harlequin’s trust. NEVER would they let an investor join something without seeing real due diligence (accounting). Harlequin’s trust is nothing more than a ploy to cover their tracks. If you have questions, ask RLegal
DO NOT JOIN THE HARLEQUIN TRUST.
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Harlequin’s latest:
“Join The Trust: simply fill in the enclosed document”
Dear All,
Join the Trust via email
In order to make it a lot easier for investors to join the Harlequin Investor Trust, we have prepared the Deed of Waiver as a secure Word document, into which investors can simply type their details, save it and email it back to us.
To enter the Trust, investors must fill in the Deed of Waiver and have it signed by a witness. To sign the document, we suggest entering your initials.
Please download the Deed of Waiver from the link below and fill in the sections on pages 6 and 7. You can only type into the highlighted sections you need to fill in.
Download the Deed of Waiver document
Once you have finished filling it in, please ensure you save the document and kindly email it back to us at: trust [at] harlequinhotelsandresorts [dot] com
Regulatory Legal tells investors “join the Trust”, stops “update war”
Following our update on Wednesday, we are pleased to see that Regulatory Legal has publically agreed to cease the “update war” and given the green light for their database to join the Trust if they wish to.
There is one Trust for all investors
Harlequin understands there are investors with different goals, views and allegiances, but only Harlequin can provide the security for a Trust to secure your investment and this is the only Trust available. Therefore any pretenses or discussions about possible alternatives are irrelevant and unproductive.
Whatever “camp” you are in, whomever you like or dislike, only by joining the Harlequin Investment Trust can you receive security to protect against loss.
Whether you wish to complete on your investment or receive a refund, joining the Trust will enable Harlequin to acquire funding, accelerate development, and strengthen the business so it can strive to provide the desired results for every kind of investor.
Deadlines
Going forward, timescales will be determined by Harlequin and the Trustees as appropriate. We urge investors to sign up to the Deed of Waiver as soon as possible because the sooner all investors do so, the sooner all investments can be secured and Harlequin can continue its restructuring process.
However, we will advise when and if a deadline for entering the Trust by way of the Deed of Waiver has been set. The lack of a definitive deadline is due to the fact a significant number of investors do not receive Harlequin’s emails for various reasons, so we will require time to identify and reach them by post.
If you have any questions, please contact us on 01268 24 24 60 and one of the team will gladly assist.
Regards,
Harlequin
You all need to sign you dipshits, or we wont get finance and it will be your own fault, thicko retards. deserve what you get.
@whatsthefuss
Again, a very insightful contribution.
Please can you answer my previous comment addressed to you? You may also wish to give investors an indication of what “finance” you would be referring?
There has been absolutely no mention of a specific financier. This means they don’t exist. If that is the case, investors will be signing up for nothing, hence they should NOT join.
If you could kindly detail the plans for Harlequin & details of the financier. We don’t need to know names, just something like terms, or perhaps how much capital they are looking to invest.
Thanks!
@whatthefuss
Finance, anybody who has a bank account and has got a loan or ever attempted to get a loan knows that finance is totally ludicrous. DA used your money because he couldn’t get finance in the first place! You are either a total retard, that desperate your brain has melted or a DA puppet.
I’ll make it simple.
I buy a house worth £200 million. To buy it I borrow £400 million from the bank by misrepresenting its worth. A few years later I need some more money so I go to different bank please lend me some money, I have my honesty, integrity and negative equity of £200 million as collateral.
Getting it yet! Finance is not reality.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/section/2
Whatever “camp” you are in, whomever you like or dislike, only by joining the Harlequin Investment Trust can you receive security to protect against loss.
really Dave, isn’t that like fitting a smoke detector, after your home has burnt down.
I am also left wondering Dave, without a legally binding contract, what am I legally entitled to ? Even though you used my pension to help build 100 cabanas, I have nothing to show for it , why would I believe an external financier would give me a % of the new development.
@Feeling Desperate 11.25, is the first part of your post your own comment, or one from R (we are not going to engage in a war of words) L?
@Robert
My own – RL seem to have said “do as you please” and are doing the real work of getting investors their money back
The Brethren know that the numbers will not arrive.
The next month will be stage managed. Very much like the junior deacon taking his place with the senior deacon prior to the first parambulation !
I believe Harlequin will be raised above the current situation, providing they see the light.
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@ OLmG,itnhftws —–what the hello are you talking about ?
What about the dicks who tried to sue DA with a freezing order that worked well, LOL ……hope you have deep pockets because he is going to run this until you retards run out of money.
And you thought it was a good move – for who? Crozier….
@whatthefuss. Crozier!! Seriously old news. You need to catch up we are way past that. We are redress and couple of trusts at least since then. Lol
I thought you was an investor, doesn’t that make you one of the retards? Or are you just a third rate troll.
Ding dong. RL calling…
Odd that this was sent to non-clients and yet claims privilege. Ho well.
LEGALLY PRIVILEGED
We are at a point where we need to deal with matters by negotiation. We can see from the number of clients that have confirmed to us that they have not joined (or will not be joining) Harlequin’s trust that there needs to be a compromise.
This update gives the options for all investors. You will see that we have categorised investors into three groups :-
(a) restructure
(b) redress
(c) repayment
You do not need to take any action unless you require repayment. See note.
Updates
We do not intend to issue any further updates about negotiations. Any without prejudice negotiations are best dealt with privately.
Negotiation
We have suggested to Harlequin that formal negotiations needs to commence as soon as possible to seek a solution for all the different categories of investors. We strongly feel that without compromise, liquidation is inevitable.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Click to access CounterOfferUpdate30thJune2014withoptions.pdf
The forum closes as dark forces meet to discuss the next steps……
The meetings of the Brethren never take place in the open.
Brother, is the lodge properly tiled ?
By a brother of this degree, without the inner door, invested with the proper implement of his office
Why I will never be a Mason.
Ans: They seem to have a totally childish sense of humor/gravitas….
Sadly folks, Ames has pulled a master stroke, it’s got nothing to do with Masons, RL’s secure site was not very secure and Ames has threatened RL with defamation which sadly under UK law can indeed be done.
RL as the host of the forum are culpable in a defamation case under UK law, so now Fatchett has no option but to dance to Ames’s merry tune.
I suspect the SRA will be inundated with complaints about the conduct of Mr. Fatchett in this mess, and let’s not forget that the purchasers of the H hotel and the Hotel Blu were also clients of RL.
Conflicted ????? I leave that up to you to judge.
Anon,
RL have not been threatened by Ames. RL took it down as they are preparing the final part of their take down plan. They have also moved into redress /repayment phase. Trust is irrelevant to them, so endless moans about it serve no purpose.
If your a Harlequin person you would know this to be true due to your diary commitments in the next few weeks.
RL will block the H & Blu swerve.
@ 9:56
absolute rubbish
where do you get this tripe from?
Ames has been shown up to be a liar again and again.
What does Pouah! mean ?
Have you not heard of Google?
What does Google mean?
@Final Act. “Trust is irrelevant to them” . So what did the lemmings, sorry clients, pay £240 for? If that is the case they have spent a lot of time and energy on something which is “irrelevant”.
@anonymous 5.23. Dumbass, for DD to get a true picture of the Harlequin scheme/scam. It became irrelevant when the DD showed up the realities of how much had been taken from the what you call “lemmings” by DAVID AMES.
I can confirm that Dave Ames is seeking to pursue RL and a number of others including Paul Walton for defamation, and for the release of confidential information, the closing of the RL forum was not a planned orchestrated move but rather a knee jerk reaction to the threat of litigation by Ames.
And yes whilst Ames is most definitely a consistent and consummate liar he has after all stated that the RL DD is factually inaccurate therefore Ames is mad enough to believe that he is NOT lying,
Unfortunately for RL and Paul Walton et al under UK law they will have to prove that Ames is lying, Ames under UK law does not have to prove that he is not lying and there in lies the problem for Fatchett and Walton.
To prove that Ames is lying to a court of law is both a costly and time consuming affair, question has to be asked whether Fatchett and Walton et al can afford to go the distance.
What is most certain is that Fatchett is now in an unenviable position where he either maintains his previous public stance or should as a matter of course bow out of the dog fight.
He cannot represent clients using the clandestine methods laid out in his latest update, all his latest update and sudden forum closure did is to add fuel to those who have somewhat doubted the impartiality and integrity of RL and Fatchett.
Not. GF is well ahead of any DA’s very predictable defamation attempt.
RL have already got plenty of evidence from multiple sources to prove in a UK court that David Ames is a liar.
It has been proven time and time again here on the BFP blog….
Wot a larf – We should have had a sweepstake on when DA would start defamation proceedings against RL!
Entirely predictable as previously suggested, however time has passed since the actions against Singing Pig et al and so has the law. There is significantly more protection for publishers (and with the ever blurring lines between print and digital media who can say that a forum is not publishing?), particularly in the area of a defence in the public interest.
“Under the new law bodies trading for profit will be asked to show that the words complained of caused, or are likely to cause, serious financial loss.”
“A public interest defence for journalism is introduced into statute for the first time and abolishes the Reynolds defence. Defendants will be asked to show that they “reasonably believed that publication was in the public interest” to be able to use the defence”
source Press Gazette
There is also the background of the use of libel law in defence of serious serial criminals such as Saville and the role that barristers played in preventing him from being brought to justice. In interview with The Guardian Dominic Carman acknowledged very honestly that the role played by his father in suppressing press investigation of Saville had not been in the public interest. Thankfully that culture has now largely gone and the changes to the Defamation Act enshrine greater freedom for those intent on shedding light on wrong doing.
GF has not got the money to defend the case. He could not get financial backing for the redress claims for cash investors. Hence the “we cannot pursue this on a no win no fee basis” of course he could ask his favourite choir for his money back.
As I cannot access the new RL forum then I am not party to what is being said. If it is anything like the old forum then I am not surprised that some sort of litigation is not happening. It was unregulated, frankly quite nasty and aggressive at times and full of posters who just forum hopped between BFP and there, repeating some of the ridiculous comments word for word. Paul Walton, the head attack dog, deserves everything that gets thrown at him. IMO
Ames will not be around long enough for any deformation case against anyone, don’t make me laugh, or I will have a little accident in my undies.
Some are missing the point here, Ames is a litigious animal, let’s take the Wilkins Kennedy claim, Ames is claiming for losses he and his companies suffered as a result of the alleged wrong doing by Wilkins Kennedy, yet Ames has produced valuations to RL which clearly demonstrate that no loss has occurred, to try and ascribe reasons for Ames’s actions is pointless.
However RL have dealt with the matter terribly, of that there is no doubt.
Let’s not forget the RL trust did not differ too much from the Ames trust, RL were stating that investors could join the trust and seek redress in tandem with the trust option.
RL are now resiling themselves from this option by stating that those who join the Ames trust whilst at the same time pursuing redress claims may find the redress option difficult given the acceptance that the trust itself is high risk.
The trust option whether the RL version or the Ames version was always going to be high risk.
And whilst I am no fan of Ames, Fatchett appears to have been bumbling along in the belief that Ames was always going to act on good faith.
Ames has Fatchett by the balls, and Fatchett has no option but to comply with Ames,
There will be no winners from this, but investors could have valid claims against Fatchett now too,
Fatchett,Walton & Corny are Freemason’s, most senior judges are Freemason’s, so are senior Police officers.
Dave Ames is not a Freemason despite his poor attempt at Photoshop on Youtube pretending to be so.
If Ames attempts any action against senior mason like Fatchett & Walton it will simply be blocked.
How could Ames afford to take legal action? Mr. Corny would be most interested in that – wheels with wheels……
So if I were an investor in HP and happy with my investment, could I now sue GF for potentially trying to destroy my investment by allowing anti HP rhetoric on his blog?
if you could prove that the business model was robust then yes you could,
It will be easier for Ames to do this, especially given his claims that the RL DD is flawed.
If Ames produces evidence that discredits some of the RL DD then the flood gates could open with claims against him by investors,
Fatchett is desperately trying to wriggle of this particular hook and mitigate potential damage done.
What Fatchett should be doing is maintaining an aggressive stance against Ames.
But the other problem is that Fatchett is conflicted, his former clients are those who are offering to purchase Blu and the H Hotel, indeed they could still be his clients.
How come Ames has the money to sue for libel?
@anonymous your posts are like Harlequins sales brochures. Full of misinformation, rubbish and lies.
“However RL have dealt with the matter terribly, of that there is no doubt.”
Ermm who says. Your opinion!!
“Let’s not forget the RL trust did not differ too much from the Ames trust, RL were stating that investors could join the trust and seek redress in tandem with the trust option.”
There was never going to be an RL trust unless the INVESTORS saw satisfactory due diligence. Any planning of the RL trust was dependent on this. This was not forthcoming because DA wouldn’t release full information(not surprising). Hence no RL trust. BIG difference.
“If you could prove the business model was robust” ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS!!!!!! Any possibility that you were anything but an HP troll went out the window right there.
The rest of your posts are pure fantasy. Ames got GF by the balls etc.
If you are going to try and troll intelligently on this at least don’t talk ridiculously, unbelievable crap.
“There was never going to be an RL trust unless the INVESTORS saw satisfactory due diligence. Any planning of the RL trust was dependent on this. This was not forthcoming because DA wouldn’t release full information(not surprising). Hence no RL trust”.
Well that was a waste of £240 then wasn’t it.
Did anybody seriously think the trust would happen? Really?
@anonymous
Tut tut what did we say about posting rubbish. Ok. Hands up all investors who really knew for a fact the reality of the position of their investment with harlequin before RL due diligence(I know Sid a few of us figured it out a long time ago). Who do you think was going to pay for all that work anonymous? What nobody! Work for free? If so i have a nightmare back garden to clear, having a skip delivered Friday. Could you call round and give us a hand. Free beers and bbq
@Anon 4.23, and what did we say about reading posts before jumping in with both feet. The point that Anon 2.45 was making that the DD was never going to be any good because DA (in his opinion) would not supply full information. If that was going to happen then what was the point. Never mind work for free. How about million quid in the back pocket to go into a process which was doomed from the beginning? How about I quote you a grand to do the garden, which you pay up front, but then I don’t turn up. Deal?
Doh. Having to go thorough the legal process. How about £400 million and I deliver you fuck all b
Well anyone who had handed over money to DA, received nothing and then shelled out another £240 for something that was leaked onto BF need to question their grey matter. Why are the cash investors on a NWNF basis? Because it doesn’t pay. Fatchett has his £1m, now the next stage is the SIPP redress action for another £35m.
£240 a lot of money for a solicitors fee? You obviously don’t get out much. The brakes on my motor cost more than that yesterday.
The rest, so what! You talk like running a LEGITIMATE business and making a profit is dodgy. Pray please tell me what other options/choices HP investors/fraud victims had. Why don’t we discuss the £200 million taken by DA and his agents. Wouldn’t you agree that the moment investors signed on the dotted line their “investment” lost 50% of its value? Do you think if “investors” we’re aware of that FACT they would have signed?
Most of the SFO have been police officers, it necessarily follows some will be Freemasons.
Ames can’t win.
You are way off. They are all born again Muslims. Muhammad (May peace be upon him) is protecting them.
It is dodgy if it is done under false pretences. RL should have come out with their true objectives from the start. The trust was a front to get the investor base from HP. The SIPP investors were then filtered out for special attention for redress claims. The cash investors can swivel. Glad you got your brakes done before you go over the cliff with the other lemmings. You think it’s the sign of a LEGITIMATE business to leak documents onto BFP under “look what I found on a train” and then repost that information back onto the RL blog under a shock/horror, look what I’ve found to whip up an almost religious fervour?
Does anyone still think that washed up old chuffs who ponce about in blue aprons have any meaningful influence on modern institutions? Of course they might like to think they can still pull strings but come on…
No answer on other choices for “investors” ? Or wether “investors” would have signed if they knew the truth? Who said RL leaked documents onto BFP? Is that opinion or fact.
Ok let’s be logical. Cash handed over to DA by different categories of lemmings(as you call them, I prefer fraud victims). The money has gone to various companies and countries. The end result, assets spread around the world hard to trace and take account of. The number 1 question every “investor” asks how do I get my money back. HOW?
Sipps obvious route. Recovering monies from FCA, IFA,s etc
How, and more importantly from who, would cash investors recover funds from? Over to you it’s not a trick question.
@Next, let me ask you this, what is the heading at the top of this thread? Who else had the DD information? Do you think that HP leaked the documents? If so why. My reference to lemmings is not referring to the original HP investor as you infer, it is to the investors who have slavishly followed GF like the new messiah. I don’t have the answer to recovery for cash investors, but there again I haven’t taken money on the pretence that I have. How many times was the question asked on the RL blog with no answer. The answer will be later was written so many times by RL.
The Wilkins Kennedy defence has been filed, and wow what a defence it is. So we have Wilkins Kennedy now claiming that Harlequin is nothing more then an elaborate fraud, and their claims that Ames and Harlequin were insolvent as far back as 2009, and apparently they have the documents to back this up and as per finance they deal with this too, and they claim there never was any nor never could have been.
And they claim that Ames and his Caribbean lawyer lied through their teeth in the Irish case, it’s all getting very heated,
Funny that RL went off line just as the WK defence came out,
The Echo in Basildon will be running this story. 😉 😉
Oh yeah Wilkins Kennedy are applying for security for costs.
Just logged on here after a long lay off and can see the Harlequin mob in full speed trying to ”sell ” their trust and get Ames off the hook for another 5 years.
So much respect has got to go to RL for backing toady into a little corner.
It was the best £240 I have ever spent. I got a lot more for my money than the £65000 I spent with Ames, all that got me was a nice glossy brochure and 7 years of complete bullish*t.
I never believed the trust was going to work but I gladly paid the £240 to see Ames exposed.
Well if that’s the WK defence it’s pretty crap. Any mention of Mr MacDonald having a foot in both the Irish builder and HP camps? Doesn’t the claim go back to 2006? Looks pretty lame to me, but will wait for the full defence to come out. Security of costs will be no problem for DA.
Also WK were retained until May 2010. So they were representing a company that was insolvent in 2009. Well that’s good for their reputation.
Newman was acting for the Harlequin group until May 2010 as a tax planner. Tax planning for an insolvent company. You could make this up.
Typical HP troll. Divert attention from DA and won’t answer direct questions about HP. Yes of course I see the light now. You are right RL are the real fraudsters. Without them on the scene everybody would know the truth and everybody would be recovering their investment. Maybe the above posts answers your questions.
Ops and there was me thinking it wasnt a trick question. Dont ask the questions if you dont like an OPINION back. I’m not a clever lawyer, thats why I havnt got £1m in my back pocket. Glad you see the light now, because you obviously have your head up your arse.
If WK are claiming that Harlequin was insolvent in 2009, they are admitting that their audit of the 2009 accounts (signed off in January 2010 with a clean opinion) was negligent. That would be a bit of an own goal as it pretty much proves Harlequin’s case for them.
I therefore rather doubt that the synopsis of the defence as given above is genuine. It reads more like a load of wishful thinking.
So you are capable of blind criticism on RL but alas no answers. Any opinions on DA or HP? Do think David Ames is a fraudster or just a lying incompetent businessman?
1 Wilkins Kennedy only audited the HMSSE accounts, and to year end April 2009.
2. Wilkins Kennedy refer to the solvency position of the RDC’s in their defence.
Wilkins Kennedy were not auditors for the RDC’s.
I’m glad DA can afford the security for costs, lol
That raises the obvious question — were there ever auditors for the
RDC’s..
The year end of HMMSE is March. The last accounts WK signed off were for the year to 31 March 2009. The audit report is unqualified and is dated 14 January 2010.
If the RDCs were trading insolvently, that should have raised issues with regard to the ability of HMSSE to continue as a going concern. That is not mentioned in the accounts. There is also no mention that any of the intercompany debt (around £2.8 million) might not be recoverable.
How very odd.
Dave, Carol and Sam Commissiong all lied in the Irish case, or was it that they told the truth in Ireland and lied in the CLC Case???? Or did they lie to CLC and tell the truth to RL?
And there is more, lots more, did Ames’s expert witnesses lie in Ireland or lie later in the UK in the CLC case and / or to Gareth Fatchett ????????
What is certain is Ames and his good wife lied, as did Commissiong and a few expert witnesses, the question though is whom did they lie to and for what purpose,?
I await the publication of the Wilkins Kennedy defence with great interest, will the defence expose more of the bullshit from the Ames clan.
It is apparent to all but the most loyal Harlequin supporters that Ames is finished,
The auditors for Harlequin Property SVG Ltd, was a guy called Floyd Patterson, who worked for a company called PLF now called BDO, he refused to sign off any accounts post April 2007 for Harlequin Property SVG Ltd. due to concerns over the solvency of Harlequin Property SVG Ltd.
Floyd might be worth a call, his office number is +1784 456 2300
His email is floyd dot patterson at bdo.vc
ITK – could your initials be KP?
Ames sacked the first contractor Ridgeview, an excellent 1st rate contracting company because he owed them a lot of money and could not afford to pay them for what he required.
The Irish Contractor is the company behind the takeover of Buccament Bay, but their attempts at taking over the assets will be opposed by many.
Dave Ames is a thief, a bully, but a coward to boot.
If/when DA is indicted/arrested will Ridgeview be unmuzzled.
Was the non-disclosure SVG or UK?
Dave is claiming to have 80% support for his trust via his hired cretin Dan Dalligan.
That is the funniest thing I have heard all day.
Dalligan is claiming SFO have dropped inquiry into Harlequin.
@next, the question is ” is that a trick question?”
@Anonymous Bosch
Then why is Freemasonry full with powerful people who swear to help each other?
Walton, Fatchett, WK, Chris Corney, are all Mason’s they are trying to bring Harlequin down for their own gain.
Fatchett has been involved in hotel management previously – he want Buccament Bay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_conspiracy_theories
In reality Dave Ames is a failure as a business man, he has destroyed many lives, yet claims his business model is a successful one, or will be if his investors agree to join a trust and give him an unlimited (remember the waiver can be extended indefinetly with out consulting the investors) amount of time in which to attempt to raise finance.
Ok look at it this way, if Ames had gone to a bank and raised 400 million, then turned around to the bank and refused to pay them their interest, furthermore suggesting to the bank, that unless they undertook not to pursue him for their money for a min period of 5 years that their money would be lost, do you seriously think that the bank would not foreclose on him?
Ok some on here would disagree….
And has it been lost on investors that Ames got (in many cases) investors to borrow money for him, yes that is exactly what he got investors to do, he got investors to borrow money from their banks, and got investors to willingly hand the money over to him at no risk to him, even having the audacity to charge interest to investors or admin fees should the same investors have wanted to resell their properties.
And yes Ames is pursuing Walton and Fatchett over what Ames considers to be private and confidential emails sent by Katherine Wooller / Manderfield that were reproduced on the RL forum by Walton.
Ames has without doubt forced Fatchett into a corner on this, and those who sing Fatchett’s praises should consider forcing Fatchett to continue to take a far more aggressive stance against the Bandit from Basildon as opposed to Fatchet’s capitulation at the hands of Ames, and there is no other word for it, Fatchett has panicked and capitulated, this is not some grand plan on his part, Harlequin is beyond being saved, and the realisation of this fact has suddenly dawned on Fatchett.
I doubt they are worried, Ames is on borrowed time.
@LFF in my experience most members seem to be middle to low ranking local business men that like to think they have influence over all sorts of things. But in reality they don’t. The world has moved on but they haven’t.
I have been informed that the RL forum exists, but only to the exalted few.
Rl have a dark forum. This forum is only for Masonic access, your lodge number is entered, then you are asked a series of masonic passwords and phrases.
There is without doubt a cohesive planned take down of Ames. This site has one objective, to bring together Freemasons , with one common goal – to bring Ames and Harlequin crashing down.
The end of July is a special date.
IG please be quiet
It’s not a “masonic” conspiracy
The facts are that Harlequin has spent the £400m from investor deposits, have 6000+ contracts with 70% owing (after completing units), and will be basing their financing discussions on this. If all investors remain with Harlequin, and the company builds all the promised property, the income would be ~£700m or something from completions alone (room rates, etc would be extra income)
If Ames can pull that off, it will be a big deal. That’s what he’ll be clinging to.
The problem you have is Ames has constantly lied & bullied his way to do this. The underlying resentment, anger, conspiracy theories & general negative sentiment in Harlequin is all down to his ineptitude in operating a transparent company.
Whether Fatchett has fucked up or not, the truth is most of Ames’ “investors” / victims were mis-sold into parting with their cash. Ames was painted as a multi-millionaire who’s done this stuff before, and has everything under control. The truth is the company didn’t even own all the land it claimed. That could be construed as misrepresentation (a fraudulent offence http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/contents)
The problem for many investors is they just want out. They don’t care about Ames’ hare-brained schemes. They don’t care the world is against Harlequin. They don’t care that his fraudulent son is locked up in jail using Harlequin’s business model. They don’t care that Harlequin “just need 5 more years”. If you need 5 more years, redraw the contracts; see who’ll commit to the mortgages again, considering the “virtual mortgages” are not available now… again, COULD be seen as misrepresentation.
Ames has no choice but to drag this out. Investors don’t want that – so just cut the bullshit and tell everyone how it is. Harlequin is stuck for finance (why didn’t they have backers BEFORE selling properties), are working on getting their company to a point to attract further funding… but what most investors have not considered is the finance will be provided on the provision of them completing (IE paying the 70% balance).
Best option is for RL to stay strong & get all the SIPP investors out. My thoughts & prayers are with Fatchett & team. If it wasn’t for him & RL, Ames would be in jail already.
Gary Player Resorts
One of our clients asked for a response from Gary Player Design as to their involvement in Harlequin.
“Thank you for your email.
Gary Player and Gary Player Design have no knowledge of, or involvement with, Harlequin’s business, investor activities, or development projects. In 2008, we were engaged to design a golf course and brand a hotel for Harlequin at Marquis Estates, but Harlequin delayed the bulk of the project work many times. While delays are not unusual in the golf course design business, we regularly pushed Harlequin to understand the cause of its delays and their expectations for our golf course design work. Gary Player Design has no ownership, development or management position in Marquis Estates, and Harlequin never finished the design project. We do not know what Harlequin has done in any other aspect of its business.
Regards
Scott Ferrell
President
Gary Player Design”
What about the other sponsors? is that bullshit too?
@IG
Why don’t we all ask them?
“Garry Player and Garry Player designs have no knowledge of, or involvement with Harlequin’s business, investor activities or development projects”
Then follows “in 2008 we were engaged to design a golf course and brand a hotel for Marquis estates”
So you have no knowledge of of the golf course you were asked to design?
And RL are asking HP for clarification of the involvement of Gary Player.
I suggest RL ask Garry Player what his companies involvement was because they obviously don’t have a clue!
Perhaps Mr Player and co could comment on this http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/video/garyplayer.php
This must be from a different Gary Player
http://garyplayer.com/news/news_detail/the_first_ever_gary_player_golf_hotel/
Or this one http://garyplayer.com/news/news_detail/harlequin_agent_reserves_first_gary_player_hillside_villa/
Or maybe this one http://garyplayer.com/news/news_detail/presenting_the_marquis_estate/
Mr Player, you say it’s about “giving something back”. How about refunding the $millions you’ve taken in fees then. That would be a start.
I wonder if Phil Spencer’s memory is as selective as Gary Player’s? Good investment Phil? You plonker.
And how about that intellectual giant, Andy Townsend. That Harlequin gig was a nice little earner for him and his brother, Mike.
Will Liverpool FC and the gorgeous Pat Cash now start running away from Harlequin? It could be awkward for Patty-boy seeing as his manager was the first one to complete on a unit at Buccament.
All the videos from Basildon confirm is that Gary Player was very interested in the project, but nothing came of it because Harlequin never developed the property. Same for Trader Vic..same for Oasis..As for the Pat Cash Tennis Academy..what a joke..two Tennis Courts ..two?
Really? That would be news to Harlequin. Have a look at http://www.harlequinhotelsandresorts.com/news/e_newsletters/oct11/e_news_oct11_issue2.asp The second paragraph of The Marquis Estate update states
“Following meetings held in June with architects from HKS Design and Gary Player Group, the final plans are being amended for final conceptual design for Phase 1, which includes: Gary Player Hotel; Gary Player Villas; Gary Player Golf Course; and the Beach Club. ”
So who was lying? Gary Player or Harlequin? Cos both can’t be right.
http://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/Article/Player-hotel-for-St-Lucia-resort/1572/Default.aspx?Keywords=Harlequin%20Hotels%20&%20Resorts#.U7QbgfmSxR4
More Bullshit from Gary Player, Scott Ferrell and Ken Constanzo of Gary Player.
The co-branded project will be developed and designed by Player Real Estate along with Harlequin. “Our long global history of being involved with the finest golf resort developments in the world will be brought to bear on this project,” said Ken Costanzo, president of Player Real Estate. “Additionally, we are organising a team of world class designers, hotel operators, and other professional partner firms to support us in the development of the Gary Player Golf Hotel in St Lucia.”
I don’t see much inconsistency in what Gary Player says.
Reading between the lines, it looks as though Harlequin told them they wanted to do joint developments with them, including a Gary Player hotel at Marquis. Harlequin then actually only appointed GP to design a golf course, paid them a little bit of money for doing the initial part of the job and shamelessly used the Gary Player name on many of their developments.
I think GP are trying to say that they acted as a design consultant only and were not a business partner.
Looks to me as though Gary Player got burned like lots of other innocent contractors, suppliers and consultants.
more Player Bullshit on http invest5star wordpress dot com/
On stage on both Monday and Tuesday we heard Gary Player talking about his own vision for the golf courses he and The Gary Player Group are developing on selected Harlequin resorts. Gary said, “I was stunned with the beauty of the location when I first visited St Lucia. This will be a pedigree development and a championship golf course which will ultimately provide a solid foundation for what will become one of the Caribbean’s most treasured and sought after developments and I am proud to be part of this exciting project”.
Gary came across as a thoroughly nice guy and when his charming wife said Grace before dinner on Monday evening, it was impossible not to be impressed with the sincerity of her message. Gary told us how he likes to get completely involved with projects and the people he works with. Rolling his sleeves up and even shifting earth on site! He talked about his excitement at creating the very first Gary Player boutique hotel. It was announced also, to ensure that the Gary Player hotel and villas at St Lucia present a truly luxurious standard they will be run by The West Paces Hotel Group. West Paces Group manages select independent properties and also operates Capella Hotels and Solis Resorts. For more information go to www westpaceshotels com Gary also expressed his excitement about the vision which he is helping Dave create in St Lucia when he asked the audience ‘Where in the world can you go on holiday and play on a championship, Gary Player golf course, play tennis at a Pat Cash tennis academy and enjoy football at a Liverpool football club influenced football academy?
http://www.worldgolf.com/newswire/browse/59455-Gary-Player-Group-and-Harlequin-Hotels-Resorts-Formally-Announce-Ground-Breaking-Ventur
http://harlequinhotelsandresorts.wordpress.com/2012/02/13/marquis-estate-gary-player-golf-interview/
The terrain appears stunningly similar to the Buccament topography.
Is it any wonder potential flood planes are undeveloped?
Gary Player in Oman?????? Working with that nutter Ameless ?????????
Was Gary Player that desperate for cash??????? Ken Constanzo says yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
http://holidayplace.co.uk/news/details/102879/harlequin-hotels-and-resorts-exploring-opportunities-in-oman
Looks like Fatchett has come out shooting from the hip again. Instead of carrying out a bit of simple research, as per above, his first thought is “I can get Ames on this for misrepresentation” Still what do you expect for £240, a decent background check?
This is one of many things that the dark site will come up with.
Fidelity fidelity fidelity.
Private information on anybody in the country could normally be accessed very rapidly through endless permutations of Masonic contacts – police, magistrates, solicitors, bank managers, Post Office staff, [very useful in supplying copies of a man’s mail, and especially if you say the “target” is a sex offender – Julian Assange comes to mind [1]], doctors, government employee, bosses of firms and nationalised industries etc., and a dossier of personal data could be built up on anybody very quickly.
When the major facts of an individual’s life were known, areas of vulnerability would become apparent. Perhaps he is in financial difficulties; perhaps he has some social vice – if married he might retain a mistress or have proclivity for visiting prostitutes; perhaps there is something in his past he wishes keep buried, some guilty secret, a criminal offence [easily obtainable through Freemason police of doubtful virtue], or other blemish on his character: all these and more could be discovered via the wide-ranging Masons network of 600,000 contacts [2] [this number has perhaps increased by at least a third since this article was originally written in 1984, though it’s normally accepted by the UGLE that there are 400,000 members in the UK, though as I say, I believe the figure to be much higher. Perhaps Knight was also referring to other Freemasons further abroad, or other affiliations such as the Rotarians, Odd Fellows etc.], a great many of whom were disposed to do favours for one another because that had been their prime motives for joining.
Even decent Masons could often be conned into providing information on the basis that: “Brother Smith needs this to help the person involved”. The adversary would even sometimes be described as a fellow Mason to the Brother from whom information was sought perhaps someone with access to his bank manager or employer.
The good Mason would not go to the lengths of checking with Freemasons Hall whether or not this was so. The “target” was presented as a “Brother” in distress by a fellow Freemason, especially a fellow Lodge member that would be enough for any upright member of the Craft.
Sometimes this information gathering process – often involving a long chain of Masonic contacts all over the country and possibly abroad – would be unnecessary. Enough would be known in advance about the adversary to initiate any desired action against him. I asked how this action might be taken. “Solicitors are very good at it” said Christopher. “Get your man involved in something legal – it need not be serious – and you have him”
Palmer, Arnold Daniel (1929- ) – Simply an outstanding professional golfer, Arnold Palmer was born in Pennsylvania and for years set the example to make golf a ‘gentleman’s’ sport. He was the first golf star to appear during the television-age and, as such, became the sport’s earliest trailblazer, followed by Gary Player (S.A.) and Jack Nicklaus (U.S.A.). Palmer won the PGA Tour Lifetime Achievement Award in 1998. Palmer’s and Players lodge is Loyalhanna Lodge No.275 in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.
Strange, today is the Wednesday after the week of Harlequin Trust meetings.
I would have expected to hear from Harlequin by now, spreading the “Good News” that thousands of investors personally attended the meetings to sign up to the trust and more importantly the Deed of Waiver.
Maybe they will announce it tomorrow… or the day after… or… never.
327 investors have signed up, Mr. Ames is on holiday after taking this very badly.
He is not on holiday. He is in SVG sorting out land registry issues.
Such as Petit Nevis ?? Could Mr Campion be with him ??
It’s funny how all this rubbish about Masons, the Irish builder, Wilkins Kennedy or in this case Gary Player always seems to come out whenever something critical is about to happen in the Harlequin saga.
Could Player have been told to distance himself from Harlequin, by some boss mason? Seems weird to me?
The same land issues he told investors last week were not issues 🙂
Anonymous @ July 2, 2014 at 5:37 pm
And you would know Bob!
Ames has dropped the wordpress case, or so I’ve been informed, by Vinny
Does that mean we can start calling him nasty names again…
Conned, Bob who?
Dear All,
Thank you to everyone who has signed up for the Trust so far. We are receiving a steady flow of completed Deed of Waiver forms, plus many positive calls and emails with questions and comments.
The same questions tend to arise, so please refer to our updated FAQ further down this message for clarification on some matters.
Join the Trust Today
Enter the Trust now by filling in the Deed of Waiver (download links are provided below) and having it signed by a witness.
There are two options available. You can fill in the form electronically in Word format or print it from PDF format and fill it in manually.
Please download the Deed of Waiver from one of the links below and fill in the sections on pages 6 and 7.
Download the Deed of Waiver document in Word format
Download the Deed of Waiver document in PDF format
Once you have completed the form, please email it back to us at: trust@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com
If you have any questions, please contact us on 01268 24 24 60 and we will gladly assist.
Frequently Asked Questions
Why should I sign the Deed of Waiver?
By signing the Deed of Waiver, you benefit from joining the Trust. Harlequin intends to place assets capable of registration as set out in the Trust documentation into the trust to help securitise the position of investors. This will give Harlequin the ability to raise finance and recommence construction. In the worst case scenario that Harlequin fails, investors will have security held by the Trust.
The key exceptions to the Trust assets are the completion properties at Buccament Bay Resort, which are in the process of being conveyed, and H, Barbados and blu, St Lucia, which are the next part of the restructuring process. We are close to raising funding for H and blu, so to include them in the Trust and then remove them would be counter-productive and costly.
Why is the company name not written on the Deed of Waiver agreement?
Each development has its own Resort Development Company. The Deed of Waiver agreement is between each investor and the specific Resort Development Company or Companies where they have invested. Creating unique Deed of Waiver forms for each investor would be very time consuming and potentially costly, therefore Harlequin has left it blank and will complete that part of the form for you upon receipt. Alternatively, you can fill it in yourself. The company details will be on your contract.
I have investments in more than one development/I am a joint investor. How many Waivers should I complete?
It is preferable that you complete a Deed of Waiver for each development you have invested in, but you may use one Waiver if necessary.
If more than one person is named on the investment(s), please complete one Waiver per investor.
Is there an alternative Trust?
No.
Do I have options?
Investors will always have options but we would like to stress that the alternative options being marketed by Regulatory Legal (“R Legal”) have no security to offer and ultimately rely on liquidating Harlequin so that investors can reclaim pennies in the pound. This will not provide investors with protection and only really benefits R Legal.
What if I already paid £200 + VAT to join the Trust when R Legal was involved? Do I need to sign up again?
Yes, you are required to sign up for this Trust separately.
We understand a lot of investors are requesting refunds from R Legal, which are being resisted despite R Legal confirming in December 2013 that the fees were refundable. However, some investors have informed us that R Legal are now offering 60% refunds, with 40% being withheld because they performed some of the work promised.
Who will manage the Trust and make important decisions on behalf of investors?
The Trustees will manage the Trust and make key decisions for the benefit of the investment. The initial Trustees are expected to be Bob Ladell of Pro-Harlequin Investors Group (“PHIG”) and Jim Baker of Baker Clarke Chartered Accountants, who has extensive experience in the operation and management of Trusts.
Can I apply to be a Trustee?
Yes. We are looking for investors with the right experience and knowledge to come forward and join in the operation of the Trust. If you are interested, please contact Pro-Harlequin Investors’ Group on: do-give@phig.org.uk
Other than security, what is the benefit of joining the Trust?
Financial institutions want to see unity amongst investors as a pre-requisite to lending. If this can be achieved by way of the Trust, Harlequin will gain momentum and start to deliver on promises. Not engaging and not signing up will significantly hinder Harlequin’s chances of raising finance.
When is my investment protected?
Once the Trust is formally set up with security transferred as set out in the Trust documentation, your investment will be as secure as it can be. Please therefore do not delay as this would put your investment at risk.
Why should I wait five years?
We have financiers interested in lending now to develop the projects, but they all need security, which the Trust achieves. We are now working alongside a global project management company to oversee the building work and are in discussions to develop multiple projects. We feel confident that this is achievable now the world economies are strengthening.
What if I want redress/my money back?
If you are going for redress or want your money back, it is in your interests to still secure the money you have invested by signing up to the Trust. If you fall into the redress category and R Legal tell you that redress cannot be achieved alongside the Trust, please speak to PHIG as they have a route where both can be pursued alongside each other for the good of the investment and your claim.
Who put the Trust documents together?
This Trust was put together in the interest of investors and approved by a London law firm, Pitmans, whom were instructed by R Legal at the time but unfortunately have not received payment despite R Legal taking many £200 + VAT payments from investors. The Trust was also signed off by a prominent barristers chambers and various related legal representatives.
When will I see the Due Diligence Response?
A due diligence response to R Legal’s inaccurate report will be shared by PHIG once we receive input from Caribbean solicitors. We anticipate this will happen within days.
Yet again, the ceasefire did not last
In another instance of desperate negative PR tactics and a curious failure to ask Harlequin a question without first sharing it with their entire database, R Legal has shared an email from Gary Player Design stating that the company currently has no involvement with Harlequin. As everybody knows, Harlequin is not currently building and The Marquis Estate has not opened, so it is hardly headline-grabbing.
To clarify the situation, the email clearly states that an agreement was in place and, as is known to be the case, the development has been delayed due to external factors. As a consequence, the agreement is on hold. Once funding is received and development recommences, Harlequin will seek to return to an arrangement.
Harlequin regrets and resents that investors are being used as pawns by R Legal. Please contact us if you have any concerns or questions and we will be happy to help.
We hope you have found this update useful.
Regards,
Harlequin
A plan is in motion to bring Ames and Harlequin down. it will happen and very soon.
I think you are away with the fairies.
The Irish builder is paying for Nikki Crozier freezing order.
WK have asked for £4million security of costs from Ames, they work with
the Irish builder.
If he finds it, Crozier will ask where from….
The Irish builder is working with Walton and Fatchitt…..
The SFO investigation, is headed up by a Freemason
Chris Corny is a Freemason.
Ames has real problems.
“Non Refundable” on pink form
“Non Refundable” on RL tofb
Just read mine. No refunds there. Ames is prodding RL with a stick.
RL turn forum off, go quiet. What’s happening ? RL do not seem the sort to back off.
Gary Player has become the latest in a long list of entities to be tainted by the toxic turd. But there was no need for Gary Player Group to lie,
In 2008 when the Player Group did their (dodgy) deal with Ames, Player Group Real Estate were in serious financial trouble.
Indeed Ken Constanzo (Head of Player Real Estate) left Player in 2009 and guess what? Yeah he started selling Harlequin products.
RL will not back down, a message has been sent out to their ‘special’ friends, aka the Masons.
When a Mason is in ‘distress’ they call on others to help; this request for help can not be ignore by follow Masons.
This ‘card’ is only used in extreme circumstances, and must me agreed by Grand Lodge.
We are at that stage now. The next couple of weeks will be very tough for Mr. Ames.
S&F
DVICE FOR VICTIMS OF FREEMASONRY (or the layman’s guide to evil)…. VICTIMS UNITE
Fact…. It only takes one lower Mason to put you on the Freemason’s Lifetime Register Of Revenge. Did anyone ever say to you “I’ll make sure you never work again” ? Or perhaps one of your family members is on the Masonic Revenge Register and nobody knows why things go wrong. Did you ever have a Mason as a partner? Are you suffering in silence? We can help you to expose this evil.
1…. EXPOSE, EXPOSE, EXPOSE THIS EXTREME EVIL FREEMASONRY
Fact…. Freemasons never let go, they will persecute until death. I have seen this with my own eyes for the last 28 years and I have gathered plenty of evidence on how they work. I am writing this now as I get my daily dose of “psychological grind you down”. I have overwhelming proof as you will read soon. I am a member/supporter of several victims groups who all have evidence of the Evil Freemasons (Destroyers Of Society) You must see http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm
2…. Buy a triple carbonated book and use it as daily diary. Put the other two copies into separate safe houses of people you can trust. (or copy onto CD/DVD to all). Don’t live to regret this advice.
Fact…. Don’t try to hide from them. Technology is amazing now, we pay for it and the Masons get to abuse it. They also have a brilliant network of eyes and ears, local Masons, pub landlords, taxi drivers, curtain twitchers, dog-walkers and of course the Freemason Gangstalkers (organised harassment)
3…. Keep your carbonated diary of dates, times and details of events and gather as much info
as possible. Make it safe as soon as you can. Join us or start your own group.
Fact…. When a Mason turns his foot (in a certain way) in court, that’s his way of letting the Masonic judge that he is your pseudo brother and you know the rest. Have a look at ex-top Mason Bill Schnoebelen’s brilliant expose of Masonic truth. It’s more than 2 hours long. Download it for free at
video.google.com/videopla…7389038944
4…. Log all phone calls (good or bad, they can all be traced). Keep dates, times, phone numbers and nature of call (or record the calls) Masons love to hide and have cowardly fun, we can prove this.
Fact…. Freemasonry is an international money making scam. Brainwash for money/power. Regardless of the codswallop they would have you believe. Masons are Masters Of Misinformation.
5…. Gather evidence using Video or DVD-cam, digital camera, handheld voice recorder, etc. You can connect hidden cameras to your hard drive for 24/7 coverage (very inexpensive) Try putting your video-cam on your vehicle dashboard (hide/box it) and later keep all vehicles on record, you will be very surprised at the results. Also carry your small voice recorder, this is useful for taking notes or when talking to your enemy, etc. Remember, this evil uses a lot of cars during their persecution. (Lots More)
Fact…. If you want to know which night of the week that they have their corruption/persecution meetings, just get online and put the name of your local Masonic Lodge into the search engines and there you have it. You can now document them, their vehicle, their job, their accomplices and so on. The website also gives you all the Masonic officers names, etc, etc…. See http://www.indymedia.org.uk/
6…. Set them up…. Switch off your cellphone and try this…. Your cellphone/mobile phone is your 24/7 electronic tag, I have proved this lots of times by going somewhere rural with a friend and a video cam. Switch on your phone and make a normal call to someone close to you, then switch your phone off and wait with your video-cam at the ready. IMPORTANT always try to get a good close up of their face and don’t forget the date, time and nature of incident. More to follow from Open Society (not secret society)
7…. If you can afford it, put a tracker on their vehicle and that will reveal everything about them. It will also reveal their corrupt accomplices, vehicles, jobs, contacts, etc, etc…. IMPROVISE & EXPOSE
Fact…. Not one Mason can tell you what happens to their membership fees. (except the corrupt ones)
More to follow….
DVICE FOR VICTIMS OF FREEMASONRY (or the layman’s guide to evil)…. VICTIMS UNITE
Fact…. It only takes one lower Mason to put you on the Freemason’s Lifetime Register Of Revenge. Did anyone ever say to you “I’ll make sure you never work again” ? Or perhaps one of your family members is on the Masonic Revenge Register and nobody knows why things go wrong. Did you ever have a Mason as a partner? Are you suffering in silence? We can help you to expose this evil.
1…. EXPOSE, EXPOSE, EXPOSE THIS EXTREME EVIL FREEMASONRY
Fact…. Freemasons never let go, they will persecute until death. I have seen this with my own eyes for the last 28 years and I have gathered plenty of evidence on how they work. I am writing this now as I get my daily dose of “psychological grind you down”. I have overwhelming proof as you will read soon. I am a member/supporter of several victims groups who all have evidence of the Evil Freemasons (Destroyers Of Society)
Please google ‘masonic registry of revenge’
This is what Ames has been put on
Fact…. Do not get involved in litigation of any kind, you must be mad if you think justice will be done. Yes I have read the occasional rare victory, that’s just part of the controlled media to fool the public.
11…. Don’t let them get to you, just ignore them. These calculated/deranged Masons only get pleasure from a reaction. It’s about time we done a role reversal here, they deserve it. Evil Freemasonry is responsible for a trillion, trillion crimes against the planet and all of it’s species. All in the name of money/greed/power/selfishness (report to follow)…. Why is there no Masonic register?
It looks like convicted conman Matthew Ames’ property is still on the market.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-46450352.html?premiumA=true
Prison tend to cause divorce and when the proceeds of crime kick in…….
Will Mummy& Daddy be next??
Look just like a Chav’s house
For who the bell tolls – Are you jealous?
I bet you wish you had a £780k house rather than a worthless investment
That house is truly chavtastic. The swimming pool looks so inviting!
The Secretary of State has a caution over the property. Sale proceeds will be confiscated under the Proceeds of Crime Act.
Fatty Matty will be looking at bankruptcy. If Mummy and Daddy aren’t around to give him a job, who’s going to employ a convicted fraudster? Maybe Gary Player will give him a job. Matty has lots of experience driving a golf buggy. They’d work so well together.
Gary Player are up to their necks on this, Gary Player was warned about Ames, yet needed the cash, Scott’s bullshit letter to RL and Ames’s bullshit response last night is an attempt at fudging the situation, dark (k) nights and days ahead for Mr. Player who’s business was bailed out in 2008 by investors money, HARLEQUIN investors.
A sad day when even Gary Player gets infected by that bastard Ames, but when this gets out and it will, Gary Player will be tainted, good man Ames, your only ability is to expose greed and corruption on a massive scale.
Shame on you Mr. Player, shame on you.
I love the bit about “Additional wooded plot…. to be confirmed”. Does that mean Little Ames owns the whole of the land, or just part of it. Echoes of Buccament Bay.
On reflection, perhaps he has already sold the “wooded plot” to an investor in Forestry for LIfe. Or possibly sold it to several of them, telling each of them they have sole title.
Maybe the additional wooded plot (tbc) was to be home to a Gary Player Signature Golf Course (TM)?
I’ve a feeling Matt ‘annexed’ that wooded plot (tbc) at the bottom of the garden.
Maybe he was growing trees for the Forestry of life
🙂
The house looks Groovy baby – shagtastic!!
@For whom the bell tolls
Prison tend to cause divorce and when the proceeds of crime kick in…….
Amanda Ames has to protect her share in the property. Although I’d like to ask if she knew where the money was coming from?
A Signature Gary Player Golf Course to be built on the Marquis Estate
http://www.thevoiceslu.com/features/2011/october/22_10_11/A_Signature_Gary.htm
Gary Player must be ruing the day he ever got involved with Harlequin and Dave Ames. Still, it’s amazing what other people’s cash can buy.
From the same article
“Harlequin’s commitment to St. Lucia is further demonstrated by the planned launch of a major airline called Harlequin Air”
Two clapped-out Piper Navajo Chieftans originally registered in 1980 constitute a “major airline”!
I guess they are slowly rotting somewhere with the engines and airframe off insurance, unmaintained and rapidly dropping in value. Or maybe the’ve been sold. Who knows.
And the god that is Gary Player even gave an interview to Channel 4, specifically mentioning the Marquis Estate. I wonder how much he got for that plug?
http://www.channel4.com/4homes/on-tv/a-place-in-the-sun/a-place-in-the-sun-extras/issue65-gary-player
Is that the same Gary Player who knew nothing about any connection with HP in the statement earlier in this thread? That would be the same statement that Fatchett was going to ask HP for clarification? Any wonder why his utterances are not taken seriously?
That would be the same Gary Player who features on the cover of Issue 5 of HP’s own newsletter – along with the Great Visionary and Pat “I’ll Do Anything For” Cash.
That’s the same Gary Player who hosted a “Golf Tournament” at The Grove on behalf of Harlequin Hotels & Resorts. And the same Scott Ferrell who penned the latter RL refer to features in the same newsletter. Some people have very short memories.
Click to access Harlequin%20Newsletter%20no5%20-%20Sept%2009.pdf
Dear Gary Player and Scott Ferrell, do you guys remember Ken Constanzo, you should, he managed “Player Real Estate” for you, you both might also recall that Mr. Constanzo was under pressure, the Player Real Estate business was not fairing too well back in late 2007 – 2008.
Scott / Gary do you guys remember an Alan Bell or a Simon Taylor????? To remind you, it was these two gentlemen from Harlequin that paid you close to 1 million dollars of investors money.
Gary / Scott, do you both recall the extensive due diligence you carried out into Ames and Harlequin?????? You can’t cause you carried out none.
Gary / Scott can you tell us what happened Mr. Constanzo in early 2009?
After you guys dumped his ass???? When he went to sell Harlequin Properties in the US,
Scott were you ever contacted over concerns about Harlequin????
Scott over this side of the pond we would call you a liar, a fucking liar, and Mr. I am such a great guy Gary Player, well you have been helping and assisting Ames in his bullshit business, a business that has cost thousands of investors their life savings,
Yet you invited Carol and Dave to stay with you at your home, you and your entourage entertained Dave and his crack whore wife, you had no problem doing this, because Ames had given you quite a bit of money…………,
But it was not his money, Gary who introduced West Paces, Scott any idea, it was not you or Gary by any chance?????
No course not, your letter to RL is very clear, you and Gar ( do you mind if we call you Gar, Gary) had nothing to do with Ames, 🙂 🙂
Hope you guys start feeling the heat now, you guys are no better then Ames, especially you Ferrit sorry Ferrill, you lying piece of scum.
The SIPP Providers are revolting!
All,
Court Proceedings in annual management charges
The bulk of our pension based clients should not be in a SIPP. The arrangement was never suitable for them. Many face the spectre of annual management charges for many years into the future. Where the SIPP has a cash account, that will ultimately run out, leading the SIPP member to be personally liable for the fees.
Our redress claims will deal with the suitability element. The SIPP operators need to reach a compromise in relation to annual fees. This is not part of the standard redress process as it will involve litigation (if compromise cannot be reached). If you look at this matter, the original claim was approx. £700.00 and turns into £3200.00 when court and Sheriff costs are added. We will be writing to all SIPP investors in July 2014 setting out the issues and inviting them to join us in this process.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
And the claim form: http://api.ning.com/files/yO1JdgjIDGbd3eLFXDWj5pWQM*zyT8ISnMbnLrN5AS6Flx4ltnU8AMy0CnJph127T4ST*50vD4Gs6xxFeJLnmC8L7VS4qmNP/GuardianAnnualFeesClaimRedacted.pdf
Just out of interest does anyone know where RL have actually achieved redress and repayment in any case, anywhere? Or are investors sucked into RL on the promise of repayments based on ongoing cases which have not got to fruition yet?
Just out of interest, you can always spot a BS Bob Storey post.
BS, – just bullshit Bob, still happy with your investment LOL
Jesus, I don’t comment on here for days and you still have a fixation with me. Get a life you stalkers.And my investment is fine thank you. Your comments are just Aldi news. Lol
That was a quick response from Shilly Bob Storyteller. He sure has a fixation with this thread.
Whatever happened to that trust, Dave? Another “deadline” that just zoomed by. You really must be a Douglas Adams fan.
http://www.professionaladviser.com/ifaonline/news/2320077/harlequin-investor-trust-to-be-established-by-jan-2014
There’s my alter ego, Mr Name, posting messages on the old RL Forum, all commenting on stuff on this site.
Nick: if you’re that interested, why not post on here. You have no audience where you are.
No fixation, just enjoy reading the latest wacky posts on here. Ames suing Fatchett, Fatchett unable to check out if statements from Gary Player are correct or not, the laughable WK defence. The list goes on and on.
Lidl all be fine by the morning after I finish the Aldi winebox
LOL
Fatchett is in trouble, his own fault for pussy footing around Ames, now SIPP providers are suing investors for their money and are winning, c’mon Fatchett enforce your stat demands……,
Hope your PI insurance is upto date 🙂 🙂
He can always ask for a top up on the £240 for the insurance premiums.
Garreth mate, you were warned about Ames, you really thought he needed you, the guy is deranged, he watches what others do then try’s to emulate them, the man is a prized prick and all you have done is succeeded in allowing this crap to continue.
It’s time you stopped dancing around the problem, take 100 of your clients and issue a stat demand against HP SVG, that will scare the living shit out of him.
That is the only way you will bring the rabid dog to heal.
And that is what Ames is, just a sick, dangerous rabid dog.
Garreth pull the trigger and put investors out of their misery by putting down the little prick from Basildon. Bet you really chuffed with your other little mate Simon Terry now, 😉 😉
Confused … whats the big issue with Sipp providers suing,, Win the redress and you get it all back anyway…. suing for a 500 quid annual charge is least of investors worries…. My Sipp provider has mine on hold until sorted… Think this is another RL scare monger tactic
Deluded – scare tactic or not, it’s not a good place to be.
My RL “source” tells me that the Ames refund push has resulted in less than 50 requests. RL routinely say “no” when the pink form is signed, which it is in 99% of cases.
Read what you are given to sign and don’t bleat if you don’t ! Investors, don’t you just love ’em !
RL have over a million pink reasons to love investors.
Just read about Gary Player, what a disgrace that man and his employee Scott Ferrill is, and what about Cashless Pat, another disgrace, I have written to CNN about cash, I think others should do too.
I have been informed that Harlequin senior management told me the SFO investigation is over.
They will now be in very serious trouble.
So, who do we believe?
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress/harlequin-property.aspx
Your post above does not make sense. “I have been informed that HP senior management told me” ?? Who do we believe? Well not you for a start.
Trebles all round – I will NEVER sign that trust with Ames.. the guy continues to amaze me the lies one man can spout off… In regard to the Sipp charges and RL say they are suing non payments … Let them try, they dont really have much of a case .. If like me you have no more pension because your greedy agent took it all and have no savings … They will normally just wait until it is all resolved with redress… As for RL I have a lot of respect but hey ? A trust campain making a tidy sum, getting all contacts off data base, redress commission will be worth a fortune…. and now their angle is Sipp companies suing …. No more questionares no more trust no more forms – Just so what you are supposed to be good at ? my stat demmand is waiting
Guardian have sued and they won…. And the Sheriff confiscated the goods, so stating that they can try is odd, not only have they tried they have succeeded, and there is nothing Fatchett and Co. can do about it.
All Fatchett succeeded in doing is buying time for Ames,
ENFORCE THE STAT DEMANDS NOW that’s if you have any Fatchett.
@deluded
https://www.gov.uk/your-rights-bailiffs/what-you-can-do-when-a-bailiff-visits
Fatchett shouldn’t do anything right now.
RL should wait for Harlequin to run its course. This trust shambles will pass soon enough – Ames will then present his “finance”, and thus enter the next phase of the scheme.
The victims will then be free to claim they never wanted to be part of this ordeal, providing RL with a more robust case. A previous commenter on here is 100% correct – Ames just emulates others.
As for Harlequin providing repayments / refunds. If you take that as seriously as the other bullshit Ames has come out with, it’s not a surprise many are in such a precarious position. Never in hell will Ames be able to use financier’s cash to pay off investors who want a refund; it ALL has to go into building.
Only after buildings have been completed on would Harlequin even be able to consider refunds. Even then, the question remains as to where THAT money will come from, as most of the investors have absolutely no chance of raising a mortgage; which was promised at time of sale (misrepresentation).
So if you think about the Harlequin model logically – that extra finance has to come in to get building started again; when people complete on those units, they will be paying Harlequin with “fresh” money – that can be used to pay back the victims. The issue is where do the completing victims get their money from?
Well nothing yet in the Basildon Echo about the WK defence documents. Bit slow off the mark on this one.
I hope the SFO make a move and put Harlequin out of our misery….. it’s just letting Ames take money of people without escrow accounts to do with what the F**k he likes
That’s just wrong, plain and simple..
If there are people who are determined to give Harlequin more money, let them. The FSA and FCA have issued warnings. It is well known that Harlequin is under investigation by the SFO and the Essex Police. If, against that backdrop, there are people stupid enough to hand over cash without it being in escrow and it all goes tits up, then tough. You can’t legislate against stupid.
The SFO’s role is to investigate suspected serious fraud and, where appropriate, prosecute. It is not there to protect morons from the consequences of their own actions.
There’s no urgency for the SFO to move. They need to gather as much evidence as they can before acting. If they were to act in a precipitate manner they would be open, rightly, to considerable criticism and possibly being sued (see Tchenguiz & Kaupthing). The money that was paid over to Harlequin has gone, long ago. Whatever is paid over now is just marginal. There’s no real impact if they arrest anyone now or defer things for another four or five months.
Also, there’s a good chance that some of the Great Visionary’s acolytes are turning on him. Those who are bright enough (Simon Terry and Katharine Manderfield, perhaps?) might well be looking to do some form of deal with the SFO. That again argues for the SFO not acting just yet. Allied to that is the constant stream of drivel and likely untruths coming out that simply digs the hole deeper and deeper. They might just be giving someone enough rope.
Rats leaving a sinking or is that stinking ship
There is only one silly old duffer on here. And it’s not me!!
Yes, you are Bob. 😉
When you actually wake up and find Ames has lost your £150,000………………..
You don’t have a pot to piss in it will serve you right for being such a nasty little old man.
Hahaha lol you know naff all so stop guessing. Let’s have a laugh, tell me again about the WK defence.
In the Know, July 1, 9.09 – suggests that Floyd Patterson, accountant for Harlequin St Vincent, should be emailed or telephoned (details given), presumably to ask him if he really did audit tHarlequin accounts OR may be something else.
Thomas Levy Huly 3, 4.54 suggests SIPPS companies are making claims against somebody, but the details are blacked out.
Anonymous July 3, 5.23 suggests RL’s successes at redress are a bit like BB completions – more a matter of imagination. Bit of Ames wishful thinking, I surmise. RL’s got more successes that BB has completions.
Nick Name doesn’t like audiences, but enjoys a bit of stirring.
Anonymous, July 4, 11.36 suggests that even repayments from Harlequin would depend on new money coming in. Does this CONFIRM IT IS A PONZI SCHEME?
Thomas Levy July 4, 2.18, suggests that if the SFO moved too quickly, Ames might get off.
Bob’s too old to see a return, daft old duffer 😉
Just in case anyone suggests that only “one handed ipad typists” get caught by Ponzi schemes, here’s a list of folk that were done by Bernard Madoff. There are some quite illustrious names on it …..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_investors_in_Bernard_L._Madoff_Securities
No Mr Name, I did not suggest RL successes are a bit like BB completions etc. I asked a question which actually no one has answered yet.
Now what did Mr Fatchett give me £100 for. Something about a return I believe. Keep up muppet.
Would that be the same “Nick Name” that GF allowed onto his RL blog to stir things up? Known as Paddy O’Name.
I seem to remember it was for tyres Bobit, because you were so skint you have to resort to cheap boxed of wine and begging for some new re moulds.
Fish and chips tonight ‘Bob’
No one put re moulds on a Range Rover.
The range rover on lease was one of the assets that the administrators said wasn’t worth sending back when Harlequin got into difficulties. So SOMEONE got to keep a two year old car for nothing it appears!!
Keep making it up Nick (second hand rumours) Name. Arse, talk out of, own, rearrange to suit.
Sister-in-law or part time llama farmer? Does Ames wear loose fitting wellies? Do you know any Welsh jokes?
Bob, how’s your returns 😉
You will have snuffed it, before you get a return.
Ames himself said that returns were paid three months in arrears. Has Bob got something so serious that he won’t last 3 months?
Why do Saesneg llama farmers wear loose fitting wellies?
RL’s successes? Yeah. (Look in your flipping letter.) They already have Harlequin successes from the FOS and others against financial institutions. They have successes with crowds and solo claims…..
Did Mr Punch’s dog bite Harlequin? Because “Toby” has written an article about getting FOS claims delivered.
http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/practice/practice-management/enforcing-financial-ombudsman-decisions/5041981.article
If you had invested in a scheme, and were SUPPOSEDLY lucky enough to get your investment back, but later discovered thousands of people had lost their pensions, life savings & homes, causing relationship breakups, poverty , worry , anxiety , family breakdowns, potential suicides etc, and you knew the scheme was promoted.through misrepresentation and dubious sales tactics.
would you
1. keep quiet
2. Openly support the victims of the Ponzi scheme
3. Spend your days mocking other’s that had lost money, verbally abuse victims , openly support the instigators of the Ponzi scheme & be shocked when you were not given a warm reception.
What flipping letter would that be? So confirm then please how much money RL have actually recovered.
WWYDo?
4. Hound the perpetrators til they returned the money
5. Develop trolling skills, so that the agents and employees involved will find it very hard to work/do business (a squalid use of a perfectly good expression) again?
6. Ridicule for the rest of time the originator of the scheme and his close rellies/associates..
You need more imagination WWYDo?
How do you get the blue ink Anonymous?
Don’t know. Wasn’t me, mate. Try asking in the kennel of the Commedia dell’Arte. (And we know where to find one of those for £780,000, don’t we?)
Llama turds floating in the swimming pool.
7. Try and use the misfortune of others to line your own pockets. ( I think it’s called ambulance chasing)?
8. Claim a huge success, blame everyone else but yourself, sue your former accountants & admit no responsibility?
9. Claim to be an accountant and a tax planner, while really working hand in hand with an Irish builder who built nowt.
Meanwhile back in reality – latest reviews confirm that the units still need maintenance and refurbishment. Most sensibly managed hotels will temporarily close during the next few weeks to attend to such matters but either there is no money to carry them out or HP are desperate for income – probably both – so guests can continue to look forward to threadbare loungers, dodgy decking and faulty electronic devices.
Investors being asked to complete on their purchases might pause to consider that they are no longer buying new units, at the very least these have had several years of use, been flooded and generally suffered from the effects of a tropical climate. Would you buy property with such a record without a survey?
And once you have taken ownership who is then responsible for the schedule of dilapidations and renewal of those expensive appliances? I can see that anyone signing up to the HP Trust will, in five years time, be looking for the recovery of 100% of their investment as opposed to the 30% currently due. Will a 10% return from liquidation now look like a missed opportunity in five years time – I wonder?
Talking of reality, the latest review on trip advisor, dated 3 days ago, gave a glowing 5* report. In the interest of a fair post of the review the lack of hot water and problems with the coffee machine was mentioned. Of course it would be possible to pick out selective negatives from all reviews on trip advisor, not that anyone on here would be that biased of course. Lol
And from a TA Forum on Buccament bay..
Jul 03, 2014, 1:26 PM
You obviously have read all the latest reviews I stand by mine ! It was a beautiful beachfront setting but was very tired and ok if you get it cheap we paid top dollar and so expected better I personally would go somewhere more accessible with better facilities and not looking so run down it needs major investment but the choice is yours good luck jane
Anyone thank thinks Buccament Bay is 5*, clearly have never been to a ‘proper’ 5 * resort.
Maybe, they just have low standards.
I suspect having one son in jail for fraud and having been bankrupt twice, one may have low standards.
Furthermore, surround yourself with uneducated morons and you can get the general gist of how some could think of it as 5*
Arlecchino, the servant responsible for cleaning up llama turds = DAme (he can play it in a dress if he wants)
Il Dottore, the educated employee = STealth Bomber – prepare for a nice bit of lex talionis and bring your own tabs (somebody’s nicked £400 million from the dressing up box fund and the touring company can’t afford to buy replacements)
Pantalone, one of the 23 = B MW – does the Mrs put it about on the back seat of a Beemer?
Still auditioning for Scarramuccia?
Perhaps the freemasons can help?
Ames is absolutely devastated that investors aren’t supporting him.
He actually thinks there is a conspiracy against Harlequin & his family.
He told me in confidence it’s the Freemasons.
10. Claim to have done work you haven’t done. I think there’s probably evidence that you COULDN’T have done it.
11. Leave misleading documents on the tables of the buffet car, to encourage buyers to believe something false is reality.
C’mon you guys! Join in back on the old forum.
Anonymous,5.57, If it were done by 4000 individual, complete strangers living the entire length of the UK plus a sprinkling all the way to Australia, would that count as a conspiracy?
Or would they have to get together in some way to make a conspiracy?
If the latter, Ames is away with the fairies!
I see that Ames’ poodle took a break from bashing his iPad to rapid respond – how sad can you be? As usual the mangy old mutt completely misses the point I was making, regardless of what rating is given, reviewers continue to point out various issues that require attention and maintenance. This has been going on for quite a while now, so clearly nothing is being done about it and property ownership in the tropics is high maintenance. Problems don’t fix themselves, nor are they one – offs, electronics don’t last that long and fabrics and woodwork deteriorate as you look at them. Of course a properly managed profitable hotel makes provision and plans in advance – not the Harlequin way of course. Ignore problems, big up on the marketing and sue anyway who has the temerity to point out the obvious.
Of course I’m sure that this will all have been pointed out to investors considering completion – or maybe not?
Sadly, some people still think it’s a good idea to complete on a resort that will go bankrupt soon.
Unfortunately BBaywatch your comments will prove to be just more hot air when the hotel management company is revealed. Now wouldn’t you like to know who that is. A clue, it’s not Nicki Beach. Now trot on and try and find some more trivia to dig up.
Would that be in the real world or the fantasy world the toxic turd lives in?
Harlequin is over, the deluded one will end up in prison.
Cash investors have lost their money – dead simple.
Imagine dave ames trying to pitch the harlequin business model on dragons den.
well, it’s like this in it, we wanted to have 9000 hotel rooms completed by now, with our investors enjoying 4 weeks vacation, and not only make our investors money, return their deposits but share the profits with the local local communities.
well, despite only completing 100 hotel rooms, being under investigation by the SFO, being in numerous legal battles, owning millions, our flagship resort being in need or repair and upgrade and making a loss,, in my mind and the mind of investment experts , such as Rob Storey , Dan Dalligan, Matt Ames, ,Sunny Stenning, the harlequin business model just works,
we are looking for a billion, or two…. tell you the truth, fulfillment is not really my thing, but anyway, and we’ll throw in a cabana at St Lucia,and you will be enjoying the same security and peace of mind that our investors currently enjoy, and if it all go wrong, for a small fee, you can join our ”trust”
any questions ?
BBaywatch July 6th 11.49, Eenterresting …. my Mrs chatters occasionally to a Harlequin acquaintance (the sort of people you say to on holiday “do drop in if you’re passing” and spend the rest of your life hoping they won’t). THERE WAS NO MENTION OF REPLACEMENT AND REPAIRS WHEN THEY WERE CONTEMPLATING COMPLETION.
Did they ask a question regarding repairs? Don’t forget that the rental payment is based on a deduction for a management fee and maintenance.
Dragon’s Den, 11.38, That’s the whole point Dragon’s Den, the REAL Harlequin model DOES WORK. Replace “flagship resort” with “Black Piglet Sweatshop Laundry”, the future workplace for all those pensioner “investors”. Replace “guaranteed mortgages” with “guaranteed stuffing by Harlequin” and it works like a dream. Ames, agents and employees live the high life , while responsible savers work til they drop.
I honestly wonder if Mr Ames is suffering from some form of mental illness.
Here is a piece about paranoid schizophrenia: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_schizophrenia
Check this paragraph:
“One criterion for separating paranoid schizophrenia from other types is delusion. A delusion is a belief that is held strong even when evidence shows otherwise. Some common delusions associated with paranoid schizophrenia include, “believing that the government is monitoring every move you make, or that a co-worker is poisoning your lunch”.[4] These beliefs are irrational, and can cause the person holding them to behave abnormally. Another frequent type of delusion is a delusion of grandeur, or the “fixed, false belief that one possesses superior qualities such as genius, fame, omnipotence, or wealth”.”
They’re a bit dozy and I think the repairs were covered by the maintenance fee deducted from the 10% rental. I’m sure they said the deduction for maintenance was much higher than the 1-2% Harlequin talked about for years, during those dull old meetings.
St George’s Dragon, 12.56, Ames probably has the delusion of grandeur … “fixed, false belief that one possesses superior qualities such as genius, fame, omnipotence, or wealth”.. Genius, No. Fame, soon will have, when his scheme gets all over the national press. Omnipotence, no; being god in a tacky little resort, on an island nobody’s heard of, doesn’t cut the mustard. Wealth, only temporarily, til it’s returned to its rightful owners.
“the belief that you can fly, that you’re famous, or that you have a relationship with a famous person”.. Surely the CAA never gave HIM a licence? Pigs and warthogs all fly. The latter deposits turds in swimming pools near Benfleet (throttle back, fly as low and slow as you can and DUMP!). Famous, soon will be if there’s a big court case in London. Relationships with famous people …. Well I hardly know where to start.Gary Player, Pat Cash, Andy Townsend, some old theatrical bod associated with Les Mis, all those politicians of Caribbean Islands …
I wonder how much HE PAID TO GET ALL THOSE FAMOUS FRIENDS? USING OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY, OF COURSE!!!
You still haven’t answered the question “Why do English llama farmers wear loose-fitting wellies?”
@anonymous 10:12am
It doesn’t matter who the management company is – it won’t solve the fundamental issues with the Harlequin business plan.
Harlequin’s “plan” was to use the 30% upfront deposit to create assets which would then be leveraged to aid in the next waves of development. Unfortunately, much of the precious time & resources required to make this a reality was squandered on planes, commissions and all other “expenses”, leaving a measly sum for building.
The problem you have is even if you get your management company, what then? You still have to build the resorts. When you’ve built the resorts, you have to find a way for the 1000’s of victims to pay the remaining 70%, which was sold as a “guaranteed mortgage”.
The fact remains that you currently have a black hole in your plans. You’ve already persuaded people to part with their savings & pensions, so if they need to complete to even get a hint of the promised returns, they’re going to have to raise extra capital. Can you suggest where this will come from, if the virtual mortgages are not there? Of course it won’t be the hotel management company, right?
So if you win the litigation with WK, get money from your completions, find finance from another party, what’s the plan going forward? 5 year targets? Financial budgets / forecasts? Oh sorry I forgot. You don’t have them.
I sincerely hope the management company knows what they’re in for. Either the litigation has worked in covering up Ames’ ineptitude, or they genuinely think they can make a go of BB. If the latter, good on them. Hope they don’t mind getting sued in about 5 years. If the former, I feel sick that someone can abuse the justice system to the point of proliferating something which is clearly flawed
Come all o’ you agents, commission whores
Uncle Dave, ‘im indoors
Got himself a great big con
Way down yonder in Basildon
Get over there, get a share o’ the cash
Whoopee you’ll all have a bash
And it’s 1, 2, 3, what are we paying for?
Don’t ask me, I haven’t a clue.
Next stop is Garapu’
And it’s 5, 6, 7,
Open up the pearly gates
There ain’t no time to wonder which shite
Forgot to buy the goddam site.
Come all o’ you inhouse legal boys
Time to profit – one o’ life’s joys
Contracts to draft that’ll never be signed
And legitimate plots are hard to find.
But just hope and pray the SRA
Say you did it OK.
And it’s 1, 2, 3 what are we paying for?
A cabana at Buccament Bay
Already rotting away
And it’s 5, 6, 7
Open up the pearly gates
There ain’t no time to wonder which turd
Claimed it unencumbered
Come all o’ you family, got the genes
And the ways and the means
To find yourselves at the top of a scheme
Almost as good as Charles Ponzi’s dream
Just hope and pray a few more can be fussed
To join your worthless Trust
And it’s 1, 2, 3 what are we paying for?
Repayment, claims and redress
To get outta this terrible mess
And it’s 5, 6, 7
Open up the pearly gates
Not long now to see ’em all beat
And turned out on the street.
What has HP got to do with a village in Oxfordshire?
Good of the poodle to confirm that BB needs management…
So, a new management company – isn’t that a bit like slamming the stable door after the horse has bolted? Will it last longer than Oasis? Will they insist on repairs and dilapidations being completed before taking over? How much will they charge – or what kind of interest will be ceded to them?
Read any of the hotel forums and you will soon realise that there are plenty of management companies looking to take on distressed hotels – but on terms that are not likely to favour anyone as far down the food chain as the investors are.
Showing your youth Anonymous, 2.42.
What would EYE do? July 5, 11.50 Number 5)
Some parodies of the Fixin’ to Die Rag are preserved on the website of Country Joe Macdonald.
I think contributions to significant sites endure.
Now all I need to do is polish it up and include unambiguously named verses about Harlequin agents and employees and SUBMIT it.
Anonymous 2:42
Oi Poodle Brain aka Bob BS – it’s Woodstock New York.
Just out of interest BBaywatch, have you visited BB recently, if at all? What a pity you have to add silly derogatory comments to your posts.
Irony, yes you idiot, it’s called sarcasm. Perhaps a bit too subtle for you. Who is Bob BS?
Bob BS Storey’s been caught out yet again.
Keep some of the Winalot for Toby!
Baywatch, 3.23. So even if Harlequin can find a hotel management company, you’re saying there’d be nothing left for the people who’d bought property there? That makes the trust look really dangerous.
The beach is covered in dog shit. Have a look on the RL blog.
When someone was on holiday there, it was human shit being pumped just by the beach.
Are we back to the Irish builder not connecting the plumbing again?
Anonymous
July 6, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Nah not really Bob. You can’t blame it on the plumbers.
We are back to Dave Ames who has no experience whatsoever of opening or running a B&B, let alone launching a hotel resort.
No experience? BB has been open for 3 years now. Experienced a hurricane, the worst flood for years and has kept open, even through the summer months when many hotels close. No of course he no experience.
His customers are skewed to English families, with children. I think he counts English half term and school holidays as high season. Give the kids a serious overdose of UV and they’ll glow in the disco.
‘No of course he no experience.’
Yep Bob absolutely right there with ya on that one about Dave & HP. Agree with ya poodle
yap yap yap yap
Who is this Bob you keep referring to in your very childish IDs. Why not ask your mother if you can start to wear long trousers.
So after being out all day I thought I’d log on to BFP. And unbelievably people with a sad existence are STILL posting about me. So very very sad.
Bob, your stupidity and ridiculous defense of Harlequin, Ames and Buccament Bay are so obvious that being “Anonymous” really does not work for you.
I have not a clue what you are on about. Off now.
Yes, you have you old fool.
You silly old duffer Bob, what about the member of staff that got killed?, the driver that nearly died and the suicides?
Get back on your box of wine you silly old git.
What goes around…..
Bob porn site
http://real-tripadvisor-reviews.com/
Is there a legal danger of a Harlequin employee also being a director of one of the firms of agents? If there was, I think I know how they got round it. Replace the Harlequin employee director with a future husband (before they were wed).
In the top 40 of commision takers.
Yes, this is known to the people who need to know. 😉
Yet another victim of the toxic turd.
What happens when Ames gets someone to count up the trust member and he find out he has less than 500?
Even the deluded dwarf must then understand he has huge problems……
Was the member of staff that got killed actually working at the time? The answer is no. Even her husband said it had nothing to do with HP.
@the dim reaper (aka twat) You disgusting low life. To try and use the tragic death of some one to make a point, but not even get the facts correct is below contempt. You should hang your head in shame at trying to blame Harlequin for the tragic death of the employee. Just so you know the correct facts read below the statement from the persons husband.
“Small earlier told journalist Jerry George that he was told that his wife was swept away as she and two of her co-workers made their way home from work.
He said one of Joselle’s co-workers said that they walked to the edge of the road because of the flooding and the road gave way.
Two of them fell over and Joselle was washed away.
They incident took place outside the resort, where two vehicles remained partly submerged under water on Wednesday.”
As you say “what goes around….”
Low life scum.
Dave’s attack mouse took the bait 😉
Glad to see you can use a death as something to smile about. Don’t over stretch your one remaining brain cell.
Bob is a hypocrite. And is using the death of the BB worker to carp on and on trying to score points in his feeble defence of Harlequin is truly repugnant!
I suggest you read the pathetic post from the Dim Reaper above. My posts are the truth. Yours are just trying to score pathetic points with no regard to the content. How many IDs? About the same as you I guess.
Dim Reaper July 6th, 9.58. Joselle’s sad death is covered on another thread of this newspaper. I didn’t hear about the driver, who nearly died. Did he drive one of the mini buses at BB? Now James (such a kind and straight forward man) knows about the suicides.
I think there have been pensioners and savers, who’ve lost all their money, threatening suicide?
Then Ameses, employees and agents should consider themselves very lucky that most of this takes place in England. Loads of public diapprobation but f*** all time in jail for precipitating suicides.
@look it up!! Obviously the last post is not mine. That’s why I don’t post as Robert Storey very often now. Sad sad people out there.
Yes Robert. But for every soft bastard who commits suicide there are thousands who won’t, so they won’t affect the diviing up of the trust much. Oh, I forgot. SO FEW HAVE SIGNED UP TO THE TRUST THAT A COUPLE OF DEATHS WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE TO WHAT EACH OF THEM GETS.
D’yer think I care?
TOP 50 FIRM Wilkins Kennedy has dismissed claims of impropriety over its role and those of a partner and former employee in the construction of a luxury resort in the Caribbean by a client.
Harlequin Property and Harlequin Hotels & Resorts is seeking damages of $68m (£40.4m) for losses arising out of an alleged breach of fiduciary duties and breach of contract, or alternatively breach of common law duties of care, in failing to perform its duties with reasonable skill and care.
Further reading
Harlequin Group files High Court claim against Wilkins Kennedy
Wilkins Kennedy denies all the allegations against it. It argues in its defence submission to the High Court – seen by Accountancy Age – no duty was owed “not to act for a third party where there was a potential or actual conflict of interest”, nor to inform Harlequin Property of information gained from a different client, in particular because of the obligation to respect the duty of confidentiality to each client.
In its original claim, Harlequin held Wilkins Kennedy was engaged to, among other functions, “hold detailed discussions with regard to Harlequin Property’s plans and requirements for the Buccament Bay project”, and “visit the Caribbean area to hold various discussions with the local government, professionals and staff at Harlequin Property”.
Its role, the firm counters, was to provide “professional services in relation to financial matters including advising on taxation and seeking external finance”. To Harlequin’s knowledge, Wilkins Kennedy said, it was not capable of carrying out quantity surveying or any other work which could be characterised as construction management “given that it is a firm of chartered accountants, auditors and tax advisers”.
The suggestion that Wilkins Kennedy carried out any construction-related services on the Buccament Bay project is “entirely unmeritorious”, it said in its defence.
“Further… the contention that Harlequin Property can have relied on the defendant to provide such services is, likewise, ill-founded and is denied,” it added.
‘No code of conduct breach’
No engagement letter was drawn up for the work, something Harlequin suggested breaches the ICAEW’s Code of Conduct. Wilkins Kennedy, however, denies it “owed an absolute obligation to Harlequin property to provide an engagement letter… and in any event it is denied that a failure to provide a letter of retainer is a breach of any obligation to Harlequin Property”.
The case was brought by two claimants: Harlequin Property and Harlequin Hotels & Resorts, which is the overarching company. Wilkins Kennedy claims it was only engaged by the former, and as such contests Harlequin Hotels & Resorts “should be struck out”.
Wilkins Kennedy also denies the $68m claim due to value of the work completed, and as such Harlequin Property has not suffered any loss.
Harlequin has found itself at the heart of several legal battles in recent years, including a Serious Fraud Office investigation, which is still ongoing. This latest claim follows a case heard in Ireland in August 2013 concerning the misappropriation funds, which saw Harlequin win more than $2m in damages from Padraig O’Halloran, a former ICE Group contractor for its Buccament Bay resort.
Those funds were supposed to be used for the construction of the resort, but instead O’Halloran was found guilty in the Irish High Court of using funds intended for the procurement of materials and construction of the complex for lavish personal ends, including a wedding, a private jet and a racecourse.
During that hearing, the court heard then-Wilkins Kennedy employee Jeremy Newman and current partner Martin MacDonald had allegedly aided and abetted O’Halloran in his deception of Harlequin.
Harlequin’s claim states the relationship “was inappropriate and a breach of fiduciary duty and Wilkins Kennedy did not tell the claimants”.
The case continues.
Bullshit Bobit come on attack WK are not guilty
DD + LT July 7 1.07. Is this the long waited for WK defence? I was expecting something a good deal blacker to Harlequin.
There are plenty of laughs and that makes up for it.
Of course “inform Harlequin Property of information gained from a different client, in particular because of the obligation to respect the duty of confidentiality to each client.” isn’t really a part of Ames’s thought processes.
“Now I’ll hire you to do a few sums for me and as my commision for giving you the business …, I expect you to tell me all my competitiors’ weak points.”
“To Harlequin’s knowledge, Wilkins Kennedy said, it was not capable of carrying out quantity surveying or any other work which could be characterised as construction management “given that it is a firm of chartered accountants, auditors and tax advisers”.
“We’ , ‘e does me sums for me, so ‘e can te’ me ‘ow many bricks I’w need to bui’d BB.”
One of the big laughs in this is that the first time a QS was mentioned was when an expert was needed for the Irish case and the QS had to do the calculations retrospectively!
I love to hear Artsies in full flow – “entirely unmeritorious” is delightful understatement in relation to expecting the accountants to provide construction related services. A TINY LESSON FOR DUFFER DAVE – CHECK THE SHOES, MATE. IF THEY’RE CLEAN AND SHINEY, THEY’RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO BEING ANYWHERE NEAR A BUILDING SITE.
The master of “don’t let’s write a contract, let’s vary it as we go along” is accusing WK of not writing a letter of engagement. Oooooh! DOUBLE STANDARDS DUFFER DAVE.
HHR should be struck out in every sense of the word and I know 4-6,000 who are willing to join in. Now, if I walk the pug and the lurcher down to the vets, because the pug has a cough, is the vet supposed to treat the lurcher tied up outside, or just the pug, who’s gone into the surgery?
I do hope the mention of Jeremy Newman gives him the chance to tell all about the silencing of Harlecon.
Appendix 1 page 40, read and learn. WK are toast.
from the latest TA review –
(I) “would avoid times when specialist people are on resort promoting the various partnerships that Buccament have.”
How very curious, who are these ‘specialist people’ and what exactly are they doing that would prompt an otherwise satisfied guest to avoid them?
@ BS Bob. Would you care to reproduce Appendix 1 page 40 and explain how this renders WK toast?
Also if you are going to post under multiple names then you really must try harder to change your style. Phrases like “trot off” and “why not ask your mother if you can start to wear long trousers” are certainly yours. You don’t need a PhD in textual criticism to determine that much. You almost fooled me by looking up the spelling of “wear” in the dictionary because under most of your posts you would, of course, have written “where”. Well don’t but must try harder.
*Well done but must try harder!
I wonder whether, in the interests of balance, RL will put a copy of the WK defence on their website. It could be instructive for the acolytes to see just what is being said about the Great Visionary.
Thomas Levy 3.14. Yes please, Im dying to know what is in it.
Isn’t it just hilarious when a so called expert (definition of expert, ex is a has been, spert (spurt) is a drip under pressure) on the English language and textual knowledge gets something so wrong on something so simple. Now trot off, pull down your short pants and sit in the corner on your potty. Ha ha lol
@Anon 3.02. Do some work yourself you lazy git. The answer is no. Perhaps you don’t know where/wear/ware to find it.
From the latest TA review –
(I)”would avoid times when specialist people are on resort promoting the various partnerships that Buccament have.”
What on earth is going on that would make an otherwise satisfied guest say that I wonder? Snouts in the trough by the sound of things.
Oh Bobit, you’re such a snappy little lap dog, bore off 😉
Mr. Ames has a problem. He has a woefully inadequate response to ‘his’ trust.
Whatever will he do next?
Maybe, replace Bob Lidel, with Bob box of wine?
I wonder if Karen realises that Bob BS posts his tripe 24/7 on BFP ?
I think his next move has to be taking legal action against BS for wholly inadequate trolling services.
Lol it’s so funny when the trolls run out of ideas. They fall for it every time. No arguments, no thoughts, no interesting points, just personal attacks and trolling. Hahaha lol
really strange comment in the latest review
avoid times when specialist people are on resort promoting the various partnerships that Buccament have.
what’s that all about
Yeah, that’s right Storey. Your posts are always so full of key facts, analysis and general wisdom that we hang on your every word!
Troll troll troll troll.getting to be a tetchy troll now. Have you worked out why your anonymous ID is in blue yet.
Troll troll troll troll.
Have you found page 40 yet troll? Just a bit too difficult for you is it. Now where/wear/ware is it? Troll on.
Bobby – You forgot – weigher –
Had a look at the WK case document I CAN find. WK were retained by Harlequin between 2006 and 2010 and one of the things they charged for during the period, 14.4 on page 5 was providing financial information for potential financiers.
For a sizeable chunk of this time and I’m sure BS will correct me if I’m wrong,,Ames was selling under the banner of “having no borrowings”, SO WHY WOULD HE NEED TO GIVE FINANCIERS CASH FLOW FORECASTS?
LOOKS AS IF AMES WAS LYING TO THE PEOPLE HE WAS SELLING TO.
Lidl or Aldi 5.19, 1)He’d send a minnion out to buy a couple of reams of whatever colour paper the Trust acceptance was supposed to be written on.
2) get a team of monkeys (aka Harlequin employees) to fill in the forms with names like Charlie Chimp, Brian Bonobo and Leonard Lemur.
3) Stuff them in his briefcase, ready for meetings with any financier.
@Ames is gonna tell porkies!
Please don’t insult chimps they are much more intelligent than any Harlequin employee.
Soon to be out of work …. deep joy
Could it have been for the 70% mortgages?
Robert Storey 7.08 It’s the colour of the livery of those clapped out old Pipers. Don’t tell me you’ve got an ATPL? Funny how “clapped out” and “has been ” can be used to describe anyhing associated with Harlequin.
Wonder if I can fit that into one of the more aggressive verses (being kept hidden on my computer til they’re no longer actionable)?
@ Ames has been telling porkies!
The Great Visionary was being utterly truthful. If you look through the bills in that appendix there is no mention of WK actually succeeding in getting finance. Harlequin therefore had no borrowings because no one was mad enough to lend to them! Apart from their “investors” of course who lent (uhum, “invested”) £400m.
I’d have thought the more interesting question for WK and Harlequin is at what point they had worked out that there was no financing available. Was that why the Great Visionary had to keep on selling, trying to get in enough cash to build a bit of one of the resorts? It does look that way.
Now, seeing as WK say they were closely involved in monitoring construction budgets, doing cash flows, accounts and so on, they surely must have realised that with less than 50p in every £1 taken in by HMSSE actually being spent on land and construction, there was a problem. Without external funding, ripping that much cash out of a business that by 2009 was already well behind its own delivery dates, actually building much of anything was just wishful thinking; the development needed every penny that could be found – yet more got splurged on huge marketing events, buying planes, designing uniforms: anything but actually building anything.
The longer the delays, the more interest had to be paid on the second mortgages many “investors” had taken out, the more overhead was racking up and so, at the margin, less and less was available to spend on the building. The problems that, at least in the early years, were probably manageable rapidly became uncontrollable. More sales were needed just to keep the sales and marketing machine going. Building became a sort of optional extra. I’d guess that’s why H and Blu were bought – Harlequin reckoned they could get away with a quick lick of paint, some new furnishings and furniture and there’d be a nice, quick turnaround, proving that everything really was OK. Great idea, except that H Barbados turned out to be an unmitigated disaster and Blu cost them far too much.
One would have thought that anyone with half a brain could see that the plan wasn’t working. Without significant external finance to enable at least one resort to be completed pdq, it just became a huge game of musical chairs.
WK boast a corporate finance arm. Presumably they were involved in trying to get finance. If they were, and if they saw it just wasn’t possible, did WK say anything to Harlequin? If not, why not? If they did, I wonder when they told the Great Visionary that his vision was more of a mirage?
Robert Storey 7.56 You mean telling lies for 70% mortgages? Don’t be daft. Harlequin agents and employees would tell lies to get an unravelled paper clip.
Thomas Levy 8.07. Thank you Thomas for your insight and clear analysis. As i see it, the interesting question is when did it tip over from a doable set of resorts to a ponzi scheme?
1) While they had Ridgeview insisting on proper building standards, proper BB was still on the cards. Ames’d have to have bought the ransom strips and sorted out the titles. He’s a real one handed ipad typist not to have sorted those out.
2) if the commisions had been more in line with averages for successful developers (and paid in stages), more money would have been available for building.
3) energy and focus diverted from building resorts to endless worrying about his name and litigation. I hope the man has learnt in the last few months that what he achieves is is worth a million bits of chit chat on the internet. WHATEVER PEOPLE CALL YOU ON THE INTERNET, DAVE, JUST DOESN’T MATTER..
4) From early on, i realised the first resort was going to take money from the second and third BUT WOULD REPAY IT, AS SOON AS THE FIRST WAS UP AND RUNNING, followed by the second and third….
5)There was too much money wasted in flash ways The Grove, Wembley launch, corporate boxes at Wembley, sponsoring Port Vale, F+M hampers for the polo boys …..
6) there’s something rather pathetic about Ames’s personality that he devoted so much money and effort on trying to pass himself off as one of the upper middles – something he’d never have achieved in 1000 lifetimes. If he’d made Harlequin work, he’d have earnt real respect from everyone and nobody would’ve cared he’d once been a bit of a barrow boy. He could’ve entered as a right the places he wasted millions getting into short term..
While we’re throwing suggestions into the ring – I suggest the loss of Ridgeview, the enormous commisions (all paid upfront!), and something in Ames’s personality, a kind of lack of self confidence, that made him grab the the goodies before he earnt them. Also he has a nasty streak of putting people down, probably associated with his own lack of self confidence.
If Ames had focused on opening and running the resorts, he as well as the purchasers (“investors”) could have enjoyed an awful lot of money.
How did Ames get mortgages on his own properties if he has been bankrupt twice?
Its just not true.
I have to take issue with one point above regarding the question of litigation. DA decided to take on the Harlecon site, which then showed that Newman was running this site while he was still being employed by WK to run the tax affairs for HP. If DA had not taken this on then Newmans duplicity would not have been revealed.
Here’s one of the two bankruptcy notices for the Great One https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/L-55248-UN060
Bob, stop being a dimwitted parrot it’s boring now. Ames shafted you and me.
You were told to shut it do so.
Well I certainly know that this is not Richard Ingham posting above. No one has ever told me to shut up, nor will they.
And here’s the other one https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/53577/page/1749
Storey, you really are dense. Harlecon went up in late 2011. WK had ceased acting in mid-2010. You know this because it’s in the appendix from which you quoted earlier.
Do try to keep up!
Baz Bomber Ames had the same address for the bankruptcy in ’93 as the one in ’98. Don’t know what can be read into this. Was it rented accommodation?
Slimchops 9.20. Does this mean there was no conflict of interest (WK acting for Harlequin and setting upm Harlecon at the same time)?
Yes you are right, I got my dates wrong. I am quite happy to stand corrected when wrong!
Nick (may I be so informal?)
It’s a cheap & nasty 3-bed semi in a crap part of Wickford. The house is still owned by Dave and Carol and is rented out. It was the family home before they had enough cash to by Bluebell Villas.
Richard Ingham 9.10 A St Vincent parrot?. They’re sweeties and very rare.
Mr Storey – thank you. It’s nice to have at least one of decent behaviour on here.
Nick…Name
You’d need to ask a lawyer whether libelling an ex-client was a conflict of interest. My gut feeling is it’s not, but the site used, according to the claim from Harlequin, a load of confidential info, and that’s an absolute no-no if they got that from Harlequin.
Baz Bomber – Of course you may, it’s a pleasure to be on nick name terms and i’ve already taken the liberty.. So it’s where they’ll go back to, if purchasers are able to have Bluebell palace liquidated (to get their money back)?
And I think we know where the cash to buy Bluebell palace came from.
So we’re back on the old merry go round – if the cash is the proceeds of crime, they won’t be allowed to keep it.
Why do English llama farmers wear loose fitting wellies?
He may not be a llama farmer much longer and i’d like an answer please. C’mon you guys. You’re bright enough for this.
@Slimchops – Not if its true……..
I thought Ridgeview were accused by Ames of misappropriating money too???????
Any news on the Irish appeal, Ames referred to this as pushing water up a hill, I presume this was before Commissiong was caught lying ref his evidence in Ireland and the CLC case, 😉 Now I wonder who else might have been telling porkie pies in the Irish case, 😉 😉
God forbid that some others may have told some porkie pies, could it be a case of pushing water down hill perhaps,
But if Ames says he was robbed well it must be so, so who am I to doubt what Ames says.
Anyway I’m sure that all the bases have been covered by Ames for the appeal 😉
There is also a nasty rumour circulating that Carol Ames is seeking a divorce from Dave, and Dan’s wife is contemplating a similar course of action, why would people spread such rumours,
And what about this for bizarreness, last Friday Hefin Rees rocked up in court in St. Vincent to bring a motion before the court that a consent order previously agreed between Ames and Ray Caldwell should be struck out.
The consent order was in place to pay Mr. Caldwell his monies back over a period of months, Ames consented to do this and as per usual failed to honor the agreement, but instead of Mr. Caldwell challenging the consent order we have Ames through his pet poodle barrister Rees challenging his own consent order.
Needless to say the Judge also found the Ames action to be bizarre and threw out the action awarding a wasted costs order to Mr. Caldwell.
And in respect of the application in California to force WordPress to reveal the identity of the Anonymous bloggers on this site including my good self ;), well surprise surprise Ames and his gorgeous wife lost that application too.
Ames was also summonsed by an SVG appointed bailiff to appear before the SVG courts in respect of his non compliance with respect to court orders made against him, his wife and his companies.
But heh, why believe a word I say, those Harlequin lemons will say it’s all false anyway 😉
In that case believe what you want ;), but I know Ames is finished, and I’m not alone in knowing this.
@Anonymous 9.47
Yes it is. There’s a defence – public interest – but you have to prove to a judge that what you did was reasonable in all the circumstances. Then there is the total breach of their own professional rules, which is another shitstorm to deal with.
Slimchops 9.44. thanks for the advice. I don’t think I’ll bother your BMI 25+ cousin right now. Nite nite
Nick
I doubt they’ll have anything to go back to if the claimants in the Davies action win. They’re claiming around £2.5m plus costs. The report from Dave’s own accountant says none of his companies is worth anything, so all that’s left is the real estate they own personally. Knock off the mortgages and there might be around £1.5m of equity.
Still, there must be a stash somewhere. Ah, yes. It’s with the farmer’s wife in Oz. The winery there must be worth a few bob… And he’s merrily taking cash from cretins who are “completing” without using an escrow account and that has to generate a few pennies. Any money on this not being declared to HMRC?
I am an investor in Harlequin and will be joining the Harlequin trust, in a call I had with Mr. Ames he convinced me that he would win the case against Wilkins Kennedy, he explained that as part of the agreement in the Harlecon case, Wilkins Kennedy paid all of Harlequins legal costs, this according to Mr. Ames demonstrated that Wilkins Kennedy admitted liability for their part in the defamation, so I can see the case is all but over for Wilkins Kennedy.
Furthermore Mr. Ames pointed out that he had total trust in Wilkins Kennedy but had discovered that they had produced false accounts in order to substantiate the extortionate fees they were charging, this led to the issues identified by BDO.
Mr. Ames as a result has made an official complaint to the ICAEW on the conduct of Wilkins Kennedy.
Mr. Ames also assured me that the FCA were more than happy with his business model and that they went so far as to suggest that it was not Mr. Ames or his companies that was the target of an FCA investigation but instead it is Wilkins Kennedy.
In addition he has categorically stated that the SFO investigation into him and his companies is now over and the target of the SFO investigation is Wilkins Kennedy and a number of unscrupulous agents including Hawkproperty.
I hope this assists those with concerns about Harlequin and anyone in doubt should consider calling Mr. Ames, I found him to be a decent and honourable individual.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
@Slimchops, let’s not forget that Newman has already been forced to apologise his actions in the libel case.
Mr Storey: have you read the “apology”. All it says is that he didn’t suggest, or mean to suggest, that Harlequin actually was a fraud. His defence said it *may* be. Doesn’t actually sound like much of an apology to me, but then that’s just my opinion.
For the avoidance of doubt the actual wording used is:
“Mr Newman has admitted that he set up and operated the website and regrets his actions in doing so. He did not intend to suggest, and has not asserted in these proceedings, that the business operated by Harlequin was in fact a fraudulent scheme.
Mr Newman apologises for the offence and upset that the website caused to the Ames family.”
I reckon I’d regret saying what he did seeing as it cost him loads of cash – what do you reckon, £300k on lawyers’ fees? That would be enough to make anyone regret something!
Curiously, it doesn’t say he actually wrote anything on the site – just that he operated it.
Content Investor – join- you sound dumb enough.
It’s the FSCS.
You are a silly, silly person.
check the SFO site, unless its a fake they are still investigating..
Bob, you are so tedious, what do you actually thing you are achieving?
I’m a bit confused, if that Ames the person or a company Ames had went bust, or both?
@content investor
Looooong sigh. In short David Ames is a liar and almost every thing you posted is not true. If you believe what he as told you when there is evidence to the contrary, then you sir are a fool.
It was I who deformed the Ames family Bob, because I am the Deformer 😉 yet even though Ames and his Crack Whore of a Wife knew that I was the Deformer they never sued me.
Why cause Ames is a spineless, ignorant, fuckwit, and as for his crack whore wife come amateur poet ( and she knows it) well she is just an inbred, duck egg chewing single cell organism.
And what about twinkle toes Dan, the brain dead ex post office paper clip purchaser who’s wife’s family thought their daughter was too good for him. Dan the byproduct of the Ames inbreeding experiment,
And last but not least the whore daughter Nicola, who cries to Mummy every week cause she can’t stand being married to a guy 16 years her senior who uses her just to produce kids……..
The inbreeding does not stop with the Ames family, just look at big titted Woller, Manglefield, or whatever that thieving whore is called, she managed to produce her very own one armed bandit 😉 Isn’t that right Manglefield, you fraud. ;). 😉
Remember I am the Deformer. 😉 😉 😉
Gosh —–This is getting good again !
One of the best written comments on here,
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The Great Visionary was being utterly truthful. If you look through the bills in that appendix there is no mention of WK actually succeeding in getting finance. Harlequin therefore had no borrowings because no one was mad enough to lend to them! Apart from their “investors” of course who lent (uhum, “invested”) £400m.
I’d have thought the more interesting question for WK and Harlequin is at what point they had worked out that there was no financing available. Was that why the Great Visionary had to keep on selling, trying to get in enough cash to build a bit of one of the resorts? It does look that way.
Now, seeing as WK say they were closely involved in monitoring construction budgets, doing cash flows, accounts and so on, they surely must have realised that with less than 50p in every £1 taken in by HMSSE actually being spent on land and construction, there was a problem. Without external funding, ripping that much cash out of a business that by 2009 was already well behind its own delivery dates, actually building much of anything was just wishful thinking; the development needed every penny that could be found – yet more got splurged on huge marketing events, buying planes, designing uniforms: anything but actually building anything.
The longer the delays, the more interest had to be paid on the second mortgages many “investors” had taken out, the more overhead was racking up and so, at the margin, less and less was available to spend on the building. The problems that, at least in the early years, were probably manageable rapidly became uncontrollable. More sales were needed just to keep the sales and marketing machine going. Building became a sort of optional extra. I’d guess that’s why H and Blu were bought – Harlequin reckoned they could get away with a quick lick of paint, some new furnishings and furniture and there’d be a nice, quick turnaround, proving that everything really was OK. Great idea, except that H Barbados turned out to be an unmitigated disaster and Blu cost them far too much.
One would have thought that anyone with half a brain could see that the plan wasn’t working. Without significant external finance to enable at least one resort to be completed pdq, it just became a huge game of musical chairs.
WK boast a corporate finance arm. Presumably they were involved in trying to get finance. If they were, and if they saw it just wasn’t possible, did WK say anything to Harlequin? If not, why not? If they did, I wonder when they told the Great Visionary that his vision was more of a mirage?
@Anon 10.42, does your one brain cell not understand that there are others who post on here apart from me? What do you “thing” you are achieving by trying to relate every comment on here to me.
Same for “I am the deformer, you are just sick.
@Nick Name – you are right in most of what you say but one correction if I may.
“4) From early on, i realised the first resort was going to take money from the second and third BUT WOULD REPAY IT, AS SOON AS THE FIRST WAS UP AND RUNNING, followed by the second and third….”
This was never viable simply because of the location chosen for the first resort. A 1200 unit (genuine) 5 star luxury hotel in St Vincent will never ever be possible, certainly not at BB. A 100 unit hotel might have been viable and a 1200 unit 3 star cf Dom Rep could be possible in the future. Before the poodle yaps up, the international airport, or lack of one, is an irrelevance – one of the least of the inherent problems.
Thomas Levy is absolutely right to point out that the purchase of the two existing hotels might have been a ‘get out of jail’ card, but as ever, delusions of grandeur scuppered that. If HP had started in the Dom Rep there was just the slightest chance that they could have introduced a new brand to the Caribbean successfully, but that of course ignores the site chosen in DR and the reasons why BB was purchased – and that is another whole tin of worms.
An aside on BB – who are the ‘specialist people’ promoting the ‘various partnerships’ who have been staying at BB and what did they do that so offended an otherwise satisfied guest that they were moved to comment that they would avoid going there again if they were present?
Harlequin:
The longer the delays, the more interest had to be paid on the second mortgages many “investors” had taken out, the more overhead was racking up and so, at the margin, less and less was available to spend on the building. The problems that, at least in the early years, were probably manageable rapidly became uncontrollable. More sales were needed just to keep the sales and marketing machine going. Building became a sort of optional extra. I’d guess that’s why H and Blu were bought – Harlequin reckoned they could get away with a quick lick of paint, some new furnishings and furniture and there’d be a nice, quick turnaround, proving that everything really was OK. Great idea, except that H Barbados turned out to be an unmitigated disaster and Blu cost them far too much.
Madoff:
Concerns about Madoff’s business surfaced as early as 1999, when financial analyst Harry Markopolos informed the SEC that he believed it was legally and mathematically impossible to achieve the gains Madoff claimed to deliver. According to Markopolos, he knew within five minutes that Madoff’s numbers did not add up, and it took four hours of failed attempts to replicate them to conclude that Madoff was a fraud.[69] He was ignored by the Boston SEC in 2000 and 2001, as well as by Meaghan Cheung at the New York SEC in 2005 and 2007 when he presented further evidence. He has since published a book, No One Would Listen, about the frustrating efforts he and his team made over a ten-year period to alert the government, the industry, and the press about the Madoff fraud.
Ponzi:
Since the scheme requires a continual stream of investments to fund higher returns, once investment slows down, the scheme collapses as the promoter starts having problems paying the promised returns (the higher the returns, the greater the risk of the Ponzi scheme collapsing). Such liquidity crises often trigger panics, as more people start asking for their money, similar to a bank run.
Couple of snippets for you, direct from the bunker.
Ames has still got a couple of people on the payroll, Bob Storey is still getting his 10% return, for trolling 24/7
Bob Lidell, not only is getting £120,000 pa for being a Trustee, he is splitting any referral money from the ‘Harlequin’ redress solicitor.
I’m sure this has been made clear to you all? just like the 60% of the Trust money from RL, laddel demanded.
But then there are always people stupid enough to believe Harlequin is great and it’s always someone else’s fault.
Baz Bomber July 7, 10.00 and Content Investor 10.10. what does it take to persuade contended investors (“cretins”) to telephone 01384 889900 during office hours, to have a chat with one of the RL team. I’m worried that they JUST DON’T KNOW THAT THEY ARE THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD.
CI there are too many periods for which the the phantom account eater appears to have gobbled them up, so they are no longer available..
CI look at Slimchops, 10.25. Newman said Harlequin MAY BE a fraud.(and that was in an apology)
I am the Deformer July 7, 10.47
The extra verses are coming along nicely. This bit fits the twiddly bits of the rag rather well.
“5, 6, 7 open up the pearly gates
Don’t have to work, ain’t it rum
Wilfie Manglefield’s stay at home mum.”
Not even close. Lol
Nick, whether you like it or not, there will always be a hard core of purchasers who will continue to believe the statements made by Harlequin. It’s a classic symptom of people facing total loss – denial. They won’t/don’t want to see that there is anything wrong. If they did they’d have to accept that they’ll get a tiny fraction back of what they put in if they bought for cash. That corpus of purchasers is what RL will find it difficult, if not impossible, to get on board.
That said, as far as Harlequin’s future is concerned, they are a minority. The bulk of contracts are held through SIPPs. Every SIPP purchaser has been told that there is a problem with Harlequin – if nothing else, being told that your stunningly profitable, low risk investment is only worth £1 will have rung alarm bells in all but the most intellectually challenged. SIPP purchasers, to the extent that they personally have not engaged with RL, will be represented indirectly given that RL are in dialogue with the providers.
CI is, I suspect, a parody designed to elicit exactly the sort of responses that came forth.
@Robert Storey
What is your reasoning for defending Ames? your investment has gone, wake up for Gods sake, you stupid, stupid old man.
That’s ageism. Lol
Madoff 8.32 Madoff. It appears Madoff got an extra 9 years of operating, before the authorities took note of what Harry Markopolis told them. Madoff had more than a veneer of respecability as he’d been chairman of NASDAQ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoff_investment_scandal
Ames started in 2006, so using the 9 year rule, he’s coming up to the end of his time.
Ponzi. Harlequin entered the phase of not being able to produce the expected returns (not paying the interest on loans taken out) last year, so that is a measure of how far Harlequin has unravelled.
Nick’s just a thicko literal, I understand CI is a parody (It’s my life’s work, damn it!). They may be a minority in Harlequin’s future; they’re still facing sh1t.
The following 8.56 It’s ourageous that Bob the brother-in-law is getting £120,000. Is this coming from the £400 million Ames says he can’t afford to pay back? Does Bob get the whole of 10% on his “completion” FAMILY DO GET SPECIAL DEALS.
Hope Bob goes down the same path as Madoff’s brother and Terry, who was responsible for compliance, does too.
I don’t understand what is the referral money from From the Harlequin redress solicitor. I didn’t know Harlequin had a redress solicitor nor did I know he was getting referral money. (Sounds awfully like commision whoring – it really pollutes everything Dave touches)
60% of the trust money from RL has been mentioned before and I didn’t understand it that time.
Woodstock’s just being rude, because I don’t share his musical skills
Nick 10.32 Ponzi schemes and commision whoring are synergistic. They need each other to survive. Dave could have sold a few unbuilt cabanas around Essex, but he’d never have sold enough to get the rake offs he wanted, just selling in his own locality. He needed a substantial team of unscrupulous people (often with a history of multi level marketing) who would say ANYTHING – to get a large commision.
For all the jokes about freemasonry on this site, the secret web behind Harlequin is the web of commision sellers AND THEY KEEP REAPPEARING TOGETHER. They don’t just coincide at Dave’s Harlequin (the sit down lunch and black tie dinner at The Grove were attended by the secret web).
The people who actually paid for it (those who’d made down payments on properties had to eat with their fingers standing up, the next day).
On another site, somebody said you could wrap shit in satin and it reamained shit. An apt comment about the first (posh?) day at the Grove launch.
The really posh day was, of course, the scramble on the second day, BECAUSE AT LEAST THEY WERE RUBBING SHOULDERS WITH PEOPLE YOU’D WANT TO KNOW.
Nick, I’m really surprised you are swallowing the propaganda put on here. Bob Ladell DA bother in law? Special deals for completions? Bob Ladell is the person who has completed? Take every accusation with a pinch of salt.
Basildon Bomber – So a bankrupt double glazing salesman DA liviing in a 3 bed semi on an estate suddenly – has money to live in a mansion in the country…. Really .. Rot in hell you scumbag..
Yes, paid for by the likes of us, even Bob & Bob.
Must be an age thing.They seem happy.
BS, are you stuck in a 80’s time warp like, busy body Bob
Robert Storey 11.44. I notice you skate around the £120,000 and the other money sharing I don’t understand, so I take it those are true
Deluded 12.27. So if the date Ames bought the B luebell mansion is after he started taking in deposits for Harlequin property, does that mean Bluebell really belongs to the people who paid for it?
Yes, that’s why a judge gave a freezing order on it. What a shame his nice son, the one done for fraud, has his house on the market…… proceeds of crime act 😉
What a shame they all could be homeless without a pot to piss in 😉
The thing is Ames changed the name of the Runwell house so you lot couldn’t trace it easily. I’ll be back later with some timeline info.
Meanwhile, let’s have a look at the non-trading and dissolved companies that Carol Ann Ames was involved with:
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/907027732
Are you referring to the Chavtastic Matt Ames tacky pad Marimba….
And here is some info about Dave and Carol Ames’ luxurious residence in Essex, Bluebell Wood (latest value £1.7m), but formally known as Oakwood on Brock Hill. Runwell
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/bluebell-wood/brock-hill/runwell/wickford/ss11-7pb/28599460
It depends on his mortgage, if he has a ‘massive one’ (titter titter, school boy humor) 😉
Then it means nothing, if the freezing order goes the whole way and CLC win he will have SFA.
Deep joy if that happens.
@nick name. Don’t assume that anything that I don’t say is incorrect, by default must be right. I only comment on posts which I know are incorrect.
So BS you only comment on incorrect statements. Would you care to comment on this one?
It is a matter of public record that Mr Ames is a failed businessman
Can anyone decipher Robert Storey’s latest diatribe?
‘Don’t assume that anything that I don’t say is incorrect, by default must be right. I only comment on posts which I know are incorrect.’
Which public record is that then?
Troll troll troll obviously the poster above you did. Troll troll trolling along.
The Bankruptcy notices published in the London Gazette
Anonymous Bosch
And his son who also managed to get nabbed and convicted of fraud.
He was a director of Harlequin, says it all?
As Storey has gone silent on this one I don’t think even he can put a positive spin on a bankruptcy notice. No doubt he is straining every brain cell to think up some way of telling us that it is a mark of a business genius. He needs to watch out though because he might divert the attention of those brain cells that tell his body to breathe.
Actually though DABFMABFCABF… Wasn’t it the other son (the one that hasn’t yet been put in prison as a convicted fraudster) that was a director?
And which bankruptcy notices are those? I have not gone quiet on anything. Driving and typing is not recommended. I guess my brain cells give me the advantage over your one brain cell. You do write some rubbish.
Casa Blue blue bella 2.17. Doh! there was me thinking it was so he could fit the plaques he bought at the carboot sale on to the gate posts.
The notices which the Basildon Bomber linked to in his/her posts yesterday evening around 9pm
Anonymous Bosch 7.14. Which is why someone mentioned Dan’s hideous pad earlier on (because if he’s defined a fraudster, it’ll be up for sale). Any fittings I can sell on to the Sunday morning tat brigade?
B*gger off Fred! This is not the small ads of the Basildon Echo.
Does anyone know how many of the purchasers in Jamaica are clients of RL? The old site didn’t mention much about Jamaica at all. I wonder why?
Anonymous bosch. 7.20 Yeah those are the records that show he was able to keep the St Cleres? house. How was he able to do that? Were the kids under age?
Nick – have a look at http://79.170.44.101/hawkproperty.co.uk/featured-developments
One of the directors should be very familiar to anyone who’s seen a Harlequin presentation. It’ll be a wee bit difficult for the Great Visionary to claim it had nothing to do with him.
But Dave said the FSCS loved Harlequin
http://www.ftadviser.com/2014/07/08/opinion/blogs/fos-decision-on-harlequin-must-be-tip-of-iceberg-cHAyySXUfj3zkcqhvptF2O/article-1.html
He was declared bankrupt twice. So what is your point? Wasn’t Richard Branson declared bankrupt? Your pathetic attempt to trip me up has proved to be just silly. Being declared bankrupt does not make you a failed business man, it means you have had a business that failed.
Bullshit Bob, name a business deluded toxic turd had that was successful.
You’re such a mammary gland Bob
Yes Bob it makes him wonderful.
The trolls are out in force tonight. Troll troll troll troll
POLDWWDTMT. Please don’t be so disrespectful to women’s anatomy by comparing it to BS Bob
Basildon bomber 7.35. And two of these directors have another agency (in the one hundred thousands). I thought they were trying to cut out Tim nice but Dim ( maybe he’s not so nice and not so dim)
Ruth has just peered over my shoulder and thinks a girlfriend of hers has been screwed by one of the non-Tim directors. Every time she heard the name mentioned, that is the other half of Harlington near Thiefrow, she thought she was hearing a surname spelt with an E.
The name of the other company is laughably inappropriate (keep it all for yourself more like).
Bernie “I’m greater than Dave”
Ah yes. Caring for Elves, with a strong estuary twang.
By all accounts, Farmer Tim is a good egg. He and the brassy blonde are an odd couple though.
Something in this Masonic stuff 7.38. Norse’s comment 4.58, 8th July seems apposite. These schemes are proliferating if my telephone and emails are any measure. They seem to be marked by nebulous overlapping of the same old people, trotting out the same old lines.
It’s fascinating that you’ve found this Hawk one, because my Mrs found an old email, where one individual had CLAIMED TO HAVE SOLD 10 UNITS IN JAMAICA HIMSELF and a tatty attachment, claiming all the cheapest units SOLD OUT! Nothing to do with Hawk at all – completely different source.
Wouldn’t it be quaint if all of these purchasers turned out NOT to be RL’s clients?
It did look very pretty. http://investments.whitehousepropertygroup.co.uk/jamaica-harlequin.html
Baz Bomber 8.25. I don’t think I’ve ever heard Caring for Elves. I don’t think I’ve heard H + Harlington, but Ruth has heard him spoken of. Thanks for the character judge reassurance about the good egg. Nobody wants to be a complete ipad typist about judging character. I agree they’re an odd. couple. She’s all mouth AND trousers.
Baz Bomber 8.48. Yes it is a lovely long beach site. And the selling telephone numbers were Redditch and Cannock, so the Midlands seems to have been ahead of the game with this one.
Caring for Elves – ‘elfcare. As Glenda Slagg would say: gedditt??!!??!!
Baz Bomber 9.01. I understand elfcare as in the NHS but am too stuck in Queens, NY, to to geddit.
This has to be the prize winning STUPID comment of the Year…the brain that processed this thought is in need of a lobotomy….
“Being declared bankrupt does not make you a failed business man, it means you have had a business that failed.”
Business fail for many reasons. Some of the most famous business men in the world have been declared bankrupt. You can be declared bankrupt because the bank have pulled your credit for instance. Donald Trump was declared bankrupt. The stupid comment is the one that shows no understanding of business, I.e the one above. Yet another troll comment. Troll troll troll.
Bankruptcy is the state if being unable to ever pay back the debt you owe to creditors, thus reaching a legal compromise as to the payback of the liabilities you’ve taken out:
“A legal proceeding involving a person or business that is unable to repay outstanding debts. The bankruptcy process begins with a petition filed by the debtor (most common) or on behalf of creditors (less common). All of the debtor’s assets are measured and evaluated, whereupon the assets are used to repay a portion of outstanding debt. Upon the successful completion of bankruptcy proceedings, the debtor is relieved of the debt obligations incurred prior to filing for bankruptcy. ”
I would say that going into bankruptcy means you’ve not fulfilled your responsibilities as a businessman, as to get into a position where you’re UNABLE to pay back the debt could be argued as reckless, irresponsible, or perhaps naive.
I do appreciate that for people like Trump, who have to undertake capital-intensive projects, bankruptcy “comes with the territory”, but for someone like Ames who has no track record in the property development world, and based all their credit worthiness on the back of a scheme which used others for leverage, I think it’s a rather reckless endeavour.
And for the person who said Ames has experience running hotels – I’d like to see any REAL awards he’s won in the travel industry. TripAdvisor does not count
Walt Disney was declared bankrupt in 1920. However he then went into partnership with a mouse and the rest, as they say is history. I wonder how much experience he had in animation before he started that little enterprise.
And, correct me if I’m wrong, wasn’t Harlequin marketed to potential investors on the back of business successes enjoyed by the genius Ames? Which historic successes were these? Please can someone confirm whether this is correct?
Henry Ford was a twice declared bankrupt before he founded a little enterprise putting engines and gearboxes together and calling it a car. Obviously no future in that one eh!
So BS is using Donald Trump, Richard Branson and Walt Disney as business comparators. Who next? Bernie Madoff perhaps?
Oh Henry Ford, silly me
I’m sure that business school text books will be written about the Harlequin empire someday in the future Bob, but probably not for the reasons you have in mind.
Bob you really are a sad old fool, carry on defending your hero it’s amusing.
Any one that thinks Ames is a success is a complete cock.
Robert, all respect, but be careful using those historic examples out of context.
Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Donald Trump, Richard Branson all had a LEGITIMATE reason to leverage – what they were building required the capital to do so. A common thread with all of your examples is that each of those figures actually created an asset people loved & wanted to come back to time & time again.
The problem you’re addressing is the same question of good vs bad debt. Bad debt buys things which don’t contribute to an asset in the long term; cars, planes, uniforms, lavish marketing events. Good debt is when you leverage assets which will appreciate in value over time; property, buildings, land, skillset, people, idea implementation, etc.
Harlequin’s model could have worked IF they committed their finances to the building & running of resorts. This is the fundamental driver of value in their asset base. The marketing etc was just getting victims through the door, and should not have been used so heavily. Consequently, Harlequin now have a disparity between their potential asset base & their liabilities (£400m, at least £200m of which is “dead money”).
When you refer to bankruptcy with your examples, they used it to build something bigger than they could otherwise. Harlequin had the chance to do this, and now have a run-down resort, a couple of crappy B&B’s & a lot of unregistered land. So in the question of whether bankruptcy is a good / bad thing for Ames, it’s most certainly bad; as it’s not worth the assets he’s built.
I don’t have a reference (although I have read), that in the early 90’s, he created a “plastic leisure furniture” distribution company, had a “double glazing” business, both of which had to be liquidated. There is no problem with this, but if you take my explanation above, you’ll see that he constantly used “bad debt” – never building any substantial asset base. It’s the same with Harlequin – the asset which needed the most investment was the building; which has been cast aside in favour of commissions & marketing.
And for the record, Richard Branson has never been declared bankrupt.
Like I say he is a failed wannabe businessman. It runs in the family.
For the record Richard Branson has been bankrupt twice. In fact he has had 14 companies go bust. What out of interest did Abraham Lincoln build that people wanted to go back to time and time again?
Bob, I stand corrected RE Branson, sorry.
I still stand by my comments, especially the sentiment.
Accepted sir.
Robert are you seriously suggesting by your Abe Lincoln remark
rough hewn log cabins on the beach at BB?
No Mark Twain. He was a bankrupt also.
Looks like Fatchett has had his knuckles rapped by Bob Lidell in his two letters. Very good point about a breakdown of where the money has been spent regarding the £240 charged by RL.
Good and bad debt!
I heard with my own ears Ames say that he’d sold a business for millions and had bought the land for the resorts. It was said in the kind of tone that suggested he had plenty left over (from buying the land for the resorts). (Sounds like NO debt)
I interpretted, but Ames didn’t say explicitly that the value of the land would increase when developed and that this was what he was in it for. ( Would have been good debt, if there’d been any)
It was NEVER either suggested or said explicitly (by any of Ames, agents or employees) that the 30% deposits, PAID TO BUILD THE FIRST 30% OF THE PROPERTIES, WAS BEING SPENT ON LAND. (Sly use of language to suggest there was no debt)
Spending the building money on deposits so large (all paid upfront) endangered the building project (if Ames had had any contingency reserves, he wouldn’t have had to sack Ridgeview). (Bad debt)
Spending more of it on massively conspicuous consumption demonstrates that Harlequin was primarily about redistributing pensioners savings to Dave’s cronies in the commision whoring web….And about making a pathetic, short-legged man look important. (Waste of time, meglomaniacal debt)
You are a talentless Help-Youselfer, Dave and you’ve done it on such a garguantuan scale, because you surrounded yourself with those who are devoid of talent beyond Help-Yourselfing. (Stain on society debt)
Anonymous 11.01, Firstly, £40 of it was VAT. Secondly, it has been spent finding information for purchasers of property that was not delivered.
LASTLY, IT HAS REVEALED LIES IN THE SELLING SET UP.
Robert Storey 9.26. People didn’t go back to Lincoln Time after time. He served only one term as president. They didn’t go back to the ballot box for him again even once.
Yes you are right. It is difficult to re elect a dead person.
Bob Lidel must have 1980’s management spokeGF to death!!!
Really must have done some blue sky thinking 😉
Where did Bob buy that wig? Truly awful
Ha, touché Robert! But apart from that, what did you think of the play Mrs Lincoln?!
It’s made from woven owl feathers.
Syrup of PHIGS!!!
@Bob the bung, that is brilliant! I tip my badger fur hat to you.
The trust was always ‘toupee’ or not ‘toupee’
That’s me all done, picked all the low hanging fruit 😉
The thing with people like Bob is they’re always hair today but gone tomorrow.
Looks like a parting of the ways if you think he is on the fringe
I think she was dead against going.
If he’s not careful he will have the rug pulled from under him.
This thread is making me want to curl up and dye.
Never expected to get that letter.
“to work together in achieving a common goal of saving the investment since April 2013.”. NICE IDEA IF THERE’D BEEN ANYTHING MATERIAL LEFT TO SAVE.
“in our independent opinion, the severe detriment of investors.” YOU? INDEPENDENT? OF WHOM???
“to assist Harlequin succeed in the delivery of sound investments.” TO DELIVER SOUND INVESTMENTS, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING TO DELIVER.
“There are no paid partners or staff” SO THERE ARE SOME UNPAID PARTNERS? PARTNERS NORMALLY SHARE PROFITS, DON’T THEY? (See toupee Bob’s rug 1.25 above)
Page 2) The whole concept of agent/investor is an interesting one. I wonder what the ratio of commision/”investment” was for each of the agent/investors?
Page 3) “This would be helpful” TO WHOM? It isn’t a solicitor’s job to be helpful to anybody but his clients.
Page 3) Qu 1-2. Answering these to YOU sounds like a good way of losing clients en masse. The answer to 2) is the business of only RL and the individual client..
Page 3) Qu 3. That’s so easy even I can answer it. Clients of RL have already been told the answer to this. Non-clients do not need to know RL’s thinking
“Many investors are demanding the truth and transparency from Harlequin, which we feel confident will be forthcoming”. HOW MUCH LONGER WILL IT TAKE? THE LONGER I HAVE TO WAIT THE LESS CONFIDENCE I HAVE IN ANYTHING HARLEQUIN SAYS.
Qu 4-5 are not your business.
Qu 6) Another easy one. WHERE RL’S ACCOUNTANTS CAN ACCESS THEM TO FILE THE FIRM’S ACCOUNTS. A LESSON THE VARIOUS HARLEQUIN COMPANIES COULD LEARN.
7-10 are none of your business. THE FIRST TIME YOU EVER NEED KNOW I’M A CLIENT OF RL IS WHEN I TAKE ACTION. IF YOU WANT TO RUN A FORUM, RUN IT. DON’T ASK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE’S.
YOU MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. WHAT TAKES PLACE BETWEEN A SOLICITOR AND HIS CLIENT IS CONFIDENTIAL.
Orange Form Agreement. The DD was late for everybody, including RL’s clients. What’s the big deal, it’s available to RL’s clients now.
WHAT ON EARTH ARE 60% FEES DUE TO PHIG FROM RL ON A WEEKLY BASIS.????? RL’S clients have paid fees to RL. why should any of that money go to phig.???
Who are the 121 investors and what fees are they requesting 100% return of? I hope this isn’t a retrospective attempt of some people not to pay for the DD after they’ve seen it.
“Investors”, who don’t like the DD should complain to the one responsible for such a shabby state of affairs, not the one who uncovered it.
Anyone got a copy of the letter you’re alluding to? Would be interesting to see – anonfiles will be good if you can spare a few mins!! Thanks guys
Nick Name 2.04. Isn’t your last line wrong? I thought solicitors should keep client’s infrmation confidential, unless it were criminal? Might some solicitors be in trouble with the SRA (or worse) if they failed to report criminal activities of client/employer?
PHIG
To
Today at
Dear Fellow Investors
Please see attached our responses to the Regulatory Legal letters of 23rd June, sent via e-mail to their sector of the Harlequin database. There were 3 letters to :-
Investors
Harlequin
PHIG / Bob Ladell
In the letters to investors and Harlequin they made direct statements, in an accusatory manner, about PHIG and Bob Ladell regarding monies received from agents and also completion on preferential terms at Buccament Bay. In the letter to PHIG / Bob Ladell the points were raised in a more conciliatory, enquiry based, manner as they should have been as a private, not public, letter. If you have not seen them and wish to do so, we would be pleased to forward them to you so that you to place the matter in context.
We deplore both statements as they have no basis whatever and are consequently mischievous and defamatory.
We have taken our time, as we usually do, in compiling responses which are now attached for you to see. Please take your time in reading them thoroughly and draw your own conclusions.
Please also consider the questions we ask of Reg Legal in our response and make your views known to them on mail@harlequininvestorgroup.co.uk with copy to do-give@phig.org.uk
May we also take this opportunity to draw your attention to our questionnaire on http://www.United2Succeed.org.uk Trust tab, Investor Questionnaire, if you have not already completed it. Many thanks for your assistance in doing so.
We continue to work closely with Harlequin and its advisors in the interests of all investors for a successful outcome for all of us and will not be dissuaded from that objective.
United to Succeed
Bob Ladell & Colin Fairbairn
http://www.United2Succeed.org.uk
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The 60% Bob demanded from RL must be for a new periwig, the PHIG-WIG as it’s know in certain circles was very popular in the early 70’s with the ‘man on man’ community. 😉
He needs a change of image being a trustee – who has been ‘thrust’ upon us…… no pun intended urrg!!
Oh dear more news about harlequin – come on Bob start the PR campaign….
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2354405/fos-uncovers-more-bad-harlequin-advice
Wow, I wonder who the solicitor is – maybe it’s the one Bob PHIGWIG is getting a bung off….
The one he brought along to he recent meetings….
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2354405/fos-uncovers-more-bad-harlequin-advice
I wonder who the law firm was?
Not the one Bob, is after a cut from, that he will share with Ames?
Can that be correct?
Sorry for the duplication, It was all this talk of trusts, thrusts,and wigs got me all of a dither.
Bob Lidil if a rock star
http://en.musicplayon.com/play?v=478661
What has a cut price supermarket got to do with a blog about HP? Or do you mean Ladell?
I hope the 60% commision? and 100% refund isn’t being used to buy advice from another solicitor, while RL’s clients are paying for the DD.
BS Bob talk of Harlequin in the same breath as Walt Disney – Spot on mate .. Micky Mouse
So the dwarf is wanting to sell the trust with a Q&A conference call at 2 pm this Friday, This sounds like fun.
Who needs a conference call – just show the finance and all will be well 😉 Oh wait. There is no finance
Bob before Harlequin 3.24. So wild in those days. Nowadays, silver leather trousers are street wear.
Now for some more outfits that thankfully have been consigned to the back of the wardrobe of history.
@Deluded troll troll troll on. Just got out of school?
Yup Mickey Mouse is wearing a Dave Ames watch ……..
Bob, the master of….39 investors
A conference call to sell the trust? Hair wigo again!
It is all quite hairlarious !!
There are some significant dates in the Masonic calender, especially around the 2nd (B) 15th (0)
B O. Is that another jibe at Bob? If it is it’s a very clever one. We were stuck on wigs.
When one looks critically at the membership of the Scottish Rite’s 33rd Degree, it would seem to most people that it’s the most unlikely group one would ever find out plotting to take over the world. Of course, conjecture and imagination are amazing things and any similarities between truth and the claim of world-dominating 33rd Degree Masons are often deliberately blurred by Masonic detractors. Tossing away mounds of provable and visible evidence that 33rds are not really different than any average grouping of senior and involved members of an organization, they’ll instead concentrate on a single thing that they feel others will agree supports their theories.
Hi Bob (Storey). A quick question for you….how close are you to Bob the 80’s woodland man? I assume you must know him through your mutual support of HP? I’d be interested to know how genuine his motives are in supporting investors or if he is just lining his pockets….or at least trying to.
@Anon.
What has a cut price supermarket got to do with a blog about HP? Or do you mean Ladell?
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Yep that’s him, I prefer to call him Lidel, after all they sell syrup and PHIGS
Is this a wig too?
Does look like ‘BOB’
No, that’s not a wig. He was much younger then so had no need for one. This was filmed in the 70’s…..10 years before the male pattern kicked in.
I’ve always thought…
OLmG…9.18 Are we all going to stick knives between Ames’s shoulder blades ? And which ides is it? July? And is the 2nd on lammas?
From Trentmum63, on Trip Advisor…”“Not as good as last year…”
Reviewed today NEW
I have put off writing this review. However, I have now steeled myself to give an honest and fair review. We went to BB Easter 2013 and were blown away. So much so that we booked for Easter 2014. Having had our specific choice of Villa confirmed by our agent, on arrival we were shown to a different villa completely. So it was a disappointing start although we were moved two days later into the Villa we wanted. We were aware of the problems over Christmas with the flood, and the extensive damage to the resort. Apart from a couple of restaurants being closed, there was very little sign of the devastation that had been caused. So, well done to Harlequin for getting the resort back to normal. We had a good holiday – but just not as good as last year. We had, in the first villa, intermittent hot water, which despite two or three visits from maintenance, was not solved. The second Villa didn’t have this problem thankfully. Perhaps because we had been to the resort before, we were aware of a dip in standards. For example, there were no coffee pods in the room for the Lavazza coffee machine – only Nescafé instant coffee sachets. Last year, we had a tray of coffee pods, giving us a range of coffee styles. We requested some from reception and literally got two at a time. The complimentary boat trip which ran twice a week last year, was down to once a week. In 2013 the food served on board was exquisite, fantastic canapés, and endless beers and wine. This time around there was one plate of what looked like chicken nuggets, and a bowl of ketchup. This was so far from the standards set last year. The food generally in the resort was good, we didn’t have any complaints. There was a barbecue every day at lunch, with a buffet of salads etc. Last year, there was a daily a la carte lunch menu, but although we occasionally saw one given to a guest who requested it, we weren’t offered the option. However the BBQ was good, so we weren’t too worried. I think the problem for me was that I was comparing it to the previous time, and it just didn’t live up the high standards we had experienced in 2013. We got the distinct impression that there was a bit of cost cutting and penny pinching going on, which is fine and sensible, but not if it then reduces the quality of the resort to the point that returning clients such as us, don’t go back. Another example of the costcutting is that in the gym last year, there were fridges full of bottled water, and ice cold flannels. This year, a water dispenser and paper cones (hard to use if you’re on a treadmill etc) and only two or three cold flannels even first thing in the morning. It is such a long journey to St V from the UK that I don’t think we would make the journey again if the standards remain as they are now. The resort last year was exceptional, and this year was good – and I wouldn’t make such a huge journey just for ‘good’.
Stayed April 2014, traveled with family
The reality of BB is it’s in the middle of nowhere, not much to do, and half of it is a building site, nothing special whatsoever.
The rest of the Island, to use DA own words is ”Third World”
DD and the laughable trust 8.04. Sounds as if it would be difficult for the trust to be worth enough to even begin to cover the £400 million of deposits. So what is the point of the trust APART FROM GETTING DAFT DAVE 5 YEARS WITHOUT BEING SUED?
The date 29:7:2014, this is one of the ways Freemason’s communicate.
2+9 = 11
1+1= 2
2+7 = 9
20+14 = 24 +9 =43
4×3= 12
12/4 = 3
3 symbolic as in the 3rd degree of Freemasonry
In Masonic lodges there are three degrees of membership; the first is called Entered Apprentice, the second Fellowcraft, and the third is master mason. When a candidate receives the third degree in a Masonic lodge, he is subjected to some activities that involve an interrogation and it is more physically challenging than the first two degrees. It is this interrogation that was the source of the name of the UK police force’s interrogation technique. That is referred to in an of Everybody’s Magazine:
“From time to time a prisoner… claims to have had the Third Degree administered to him.”
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20+14 =24+9 =43 …….is this some sort of new math?
It’s Math’s …….not math.
Sorry about the typo, Mason’s can add up hey!!
20+14= 34 + 9 = 43.
So what you’re saying is that Masons are in fact primary school math’s teachers?
I hope someone shuts Ames down, don’t care if it the Mormon’s, Mason’s or the Girls guides.
It’ll probably be GFAS (George Formby Appreciation Society) that finally pull the plug on the whole thing. They don’t f@ck about that lot.
The latest five star review of Buccament Bay resort (1st review although registered at TA since 2007)..is so predicable it is almost hilarious.
Every single comment could have been written by anyone who has read a couple dozen posts, and not actually stayed at the place.Come to think of it, that`s probably what it is.
Also predicable is that it follows immediately after a somewhat critical and negative review.PR team still hard at work?
Veiled in allegory 8.37. No wonder it’s a secret society. I can’t tell where the numbers come from. Can we look forward to some excitement on 29th July, this year?
Read those letters from Bob Liddall. I don’t want to read pages, which don’t concern me. Whatever he writes to RL has no impact on me at all. I wish the man would learn the meaning of Unsubscribe Button.
Woodland ‘Bob’ the wig, please note he did not take fees from agents they were donations!!
Come on Bob, tell us what your special Dave deal is 😉 maybe that is a donation too 🙂
Funny how all the trustees are Ames’s yes men.
Bob, the valuer what was it £500,000,000 for BB, and people think he would be good add adding!
I bet is Bob with this mason stuff.
Is £500,000,000 master masonic maths?
Yes. When you run it through the masonic calculator you end up with the magic masonic number 3. So by this calculation, BB would be worth £3. Maybe there is some truth in it after all!
Anonymous 2.01 I think you’ve sussed out Fantastic holiday. If you click on her avatar, you can see her contributions (rather sparse for 7 years on TA). One is for Bequia. It puts Jacks Bar and restaurant on Princess Margaret Beach, Bequia. Jacks bar and restaurant is on BB resort on St Vincent, which is an entirely different island. She admits to being 65+, so may be she’s just senile
Can the masonic calculator be operated in reverse? I’ve got a £1 coin, two twenty pences, a five and 5 pennies. If i run them through the masonic calculator in reverse, will I get an easy £250,000,000?
Come to think of it, there’s an easier way ….Way down yonder in Basildon
I don’t think the Freemason’s would have mathematical Bob syrup of PHIGS and Deluded Dave and his fanciful magical mystery tour.
Really, can you see either of them having a mate as a Mason, who ‘proposes’ them them, and someone else to ‘second’ them.
They don’t have any mates!
I have had enough of this rubbish about Freemasons. They do lots of good work for charity, unlike Harlequin; they try to help people.
I’m a retired senior police officer and a proud Freemason. I have met Gareth Fatchett and Paul Walton at the investor meetings, there are Freemasons, they get my vote and support.
This Bob Ladell chap and Ames are not Freemasons.
Only Dave Ames could lie and pretend to be a Freemason – it’s pathetic.
@Nit Pick….there is a Jack`s Bar and Restaurant on Princess Margaret Beach, Bequia.
Yes and we all know about Freemasons in the police. And the judiciary. Bent as nine bob notes.
Apologies to Fantastic holiday.Nit well and truly picked!
Well if that’s what’s needed to take Ames down….I’m up for that.
For too long people have not stood up to the toxic turd
Well if your statment is true the toxic turd is well and truly f***ed
Yes and we all know about Freemasons in the police. And the judiciary. Bent as nine bob notes.
more fakery on TA I see.
and desperation from the Harlequin trolls.
See the Carpet cleaning trolls are out again…helps take the interest away from negative Harlequin comments I suppose…good job Basildon boys.
Cleaning carpets, is that their next job lol
Who is that horrible bitch Sonia at Harlequin? she just told me if I don’t join the trust I will lose my investment and all her family a job.
Sounded like a right bitch, correct is a right bitch
At least she’s being honest.
Sonia Stenning has been causing problems for the trust idea since its inception in late 2013. Ignore her. And her sons Vinnie & Sonny – all of them have lied & will be brought to justice for their crimes.
The trust won’t “save” any investment.
All it does is prevent ownership of the trust’s land being transferred to someone else, in the case of a fire sale etc. It does not stop Harlequin going into liquidation, or the sale of the land not in the trust (IE “sold” units), or the company which owns all the land (RDC, of which Ames is the only share holder).
Don’t join the trust. You’ll be better saving yourself the headache
“All” her family do not work there.
@ OCS
So her family have been on the gravy train funded by investors for years and it might just be coming to its final destination. How sad for her. I wonder who much money she and her cronies have syphoned out of people’s pension funds? People who now face a future of financial insecurity because of parasites. Roll on justice.
* how much money
On behalf of Regulatory Legal we would like to thank the Stenning family for get all the investors to sign the non-refundable statement on the pink forms.
Have a nice weekend. PS – we don’t need Dave anymore.
The old cow needs a tummy tuck, old tart.
Fanny tuck more likely ………..
Piss flaps like John Wayne’s saddlebags
@Ariel, bit of onside information there?
* inside. Bleeding spell check.
Another way of getting YOUR money back?https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-28268499
A farmer described as the leader of a gang that organised and ran a “sophisticated” fuel and VAT tax fraud has been jailed.
Michael Wilmot, 72, from Osgodby, near Market Rasen, was described in court as the “controller” of the gang which evaded millions in duty and tax.
HM Revenue and Customs inspectors found he had supplied rebated fuel, known as red diesel, to 35 HGV firms.
bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-lincolnshire-28268499
A farmer described as the leader of a gang that organised and ran a “sophisticated” fuel and VAT tax fraud has been jailed.
Michael Wilmot, 72, from Osgodby, near Market Rasen, was described in court as the “controller” of the gang which evaded millions in duty and tax.
HM Revenue and Customs inspectors found he had supplied rebated fuel, known as red diesel, to 35 HGV firms.
A farmer described as the leader of a gang that organised and ran a “sophisticated” fuel and VAT tax fraud has been jailed.
Michael Wilmot, 72, from Osgodby, near Market Rasen, was described in court as the “controller” of the gang which evaded millions in duty and tax.
HM Revenue and Customs inspectors found he had supplied rebated fuel, known as red diesel, to 35 HGV firms.
Is this three different farmers, or the same one?
Can Piper Chieftains be adapted to use diesel? Taxi up to the hedge and start trimming it. I understand hedge trimming is a legitimate use for red diesel …..and if the Pipers aren’t flying any more, Dave could start a gardening business
Don’t think you can start a business behind bars, let alone when you get out?
Is the farmer mentioned above the only person we’ve heard of who’s evaded millions in duty or tax? Not just VAT, but may be a different sort of tax?
The carpet cleaning trolls have taken over the “recent comments ” section…
BFP can you block and delete all of those comments that are obviously posted to provide a smokescreen to anything Harlequin related?
How many times has a “carpet cleaning troll” posted on this thread exactly? How are the “carpet cleaning trolls” related in any way to this thread? Idiot.
@ Anonymous 12.20
I believe the point that Anonymous 11.41 was making was in relation to the number of spam comments clogging up the “Recent Comments” section at the top of the page. When the Harlequin thread gets quite old, as this one has, the easiest way to access it is to use the latest Harlequin comment in that list. If there is a long list of spam in “Recent Comments”, there is occasionally no Harlequin comment in the list.
I wouldn’t be so quick to accuse Anonymoue 11.41 of being an idiot, Bob.
@St Georges….Bob is too thick to understand what was stated at 11.41 …..nowhere was it said that the carpet cleaning comments were posted on THIS thread.
In fact, the smokescreen technique is to post meaningless comments on many other threads, none of which have anything to do with Harlequin.
The aim is to draw readers away from threads like this, and this :Harlequin fraudster: Matthew Ames jailed 40 months in fake carbon credits scam, and this: Harlequin’s Matthew Ames guilty of ponzi scheme fraud. Will father David Ames be next?, and this :SVG High Court Registrar resigns suddenly – rumours flying about Harlequin connection…
Come on Bob, you forgot to zip up your fly last time you had a leak and it has affected your reasoning.
I am going to suggest that the recent influx of carpet cleaning spam messages has nothing to do with harlequin, or anything else on this website, A carpet company is simply trying to get links from forums in order to improve their SEO rankings. There are automated systems that will do this, and just spam every forum they can put links in. A giveaway is the choice of names and if you click on the posters name, it will link to one of the carpet companies online properties, youtube videos etc.
Try clicking on “Harlequin Ponzi Scheme” highlighted in blue at the top.
more bad news for Harlequin?
http://is.gd/AiNhky
Ames has got a very nasty shock coming his way very soon 🙂
Double cell?
Ames will be in jail soon enough.
Ever wondered why he didn’t want to give up his shares? That will leave him completely exposed with no hope of escape.
Because in his little mind he actually owns BB and the hotels.
Well said Harlequin Ponzi Scheme. Why the comments are deemed relevant to being a Harlequin smoke screen is on the verge of fantasy. So Anon 12.59 and SGD read theist of 1.01 and learn.
@BBaywatch, In a word No. I am surprised you have highlighted the activities of a convicted fraud. That would be mr Drummond of course.
Piss off Bob.
Eh no. Does it not occur to your pee brain that others post on here? Obviously not.
Anonymous 5.31. Have you clicked on Blue HPS 1.01? I think that’s a photo of someone else.
Anonymous 5:31 would you care to provide more details about the supposed fraud conviction of Mr Drummond? I seem to recall that he successfully defended himself against some vexatious civil litigant. I am not aware that a nation state decided the criminal evidence against him was sufficiently strong that they saw fit to prosecute and secure a conviction – unlike others of course who are currently detained at Her Majesty’s pleasure.
The article was written by Andrew Drummond, on his own blog. A convicted fraudster trying to write an article about someone who has been convicted of nothing. That’s like Ed Balls trying to tell us how to budget for the weekly shop.
@ Anonymous 5.23
I know. Check my post of 12.39 and try Googling spam to find out what it means.
Well, looks like I got it right once again, Thai turkey coming home to roost. It’s the kind of story the press might like too.
@ Anon Bosch
Will these do you
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fandrew-drummond-watch.blogspot.com%2F&ei=DNfCU9fzCq3A7AaLroHoCQ&usg=AFQjCNHfzuZlo2X3ZqDolgi36xil7f3e5g
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CD4QFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.andrewdrummondanddrewnoyes.com%2Fandrew-drummond-sentenced–to-thai-prison.php&ei=DNfCU9fzCq3A7AaLroHoCQ&usg=AFQjCNFBT1O1oaRs0JFHbYg6QfOyTixGfA
@ Anonumous 6.47pm
Could you be a little more clear please. Are you saying that Andrew Drummond has been convicted (ie found guilty in a criminal court) of fraud?
Ive just put the links up here. It seems they are taking a long time to load. Not my words, but that of the press etc.
As SGD quotes, use Google, its all there.
Ok. So I take it that you have backed down from asserting that Andrew Drummond has been convicted in a criminal court.
never said he had been convicted in a criminal court. They are your words.
No but he has, “Andrew Drummond convicted; sentenced to prison” He received 4 months in a Thai prison for violating the Thailand Computer Crimes Act in order to cause harm to individuals.
@ Anonymous 7.27
Well if you are the same poster as 5.31 then you used the word “convicted”.
Let’s be precise about the words we use please. Conviction occurs at the end of a criminal trial in which a nation state gathers criminal evidence against a person, brings that person to trial before a jury who decide that, beyond reasonable doubt, the person is guilty of committing a crime. The judge then passes a sentence and the person becomes convicted.
If one person mounts a civil claim against another then this is heard in a civil court and the judge uses the lesser burden of proof (that on the balance of probabilities one has a stronger claim than the other) to determine which party has the stronger claim. The judge can then order damages from one party to the other but nobody walks away convicted of anything let alone a crime.
Is that clear now?
So was Andrew Drummond convicted, and sentenced to prison, in a criminal court or a civil court for breaking the Thai Computer crimes act?
I don’t know. You tell me. Was the conviction you allege appealed? Was the sentence served?
Why not ask BBaywatch if the article he posted a link to is accurate? Why was it followed on the same page by Drummond begging for money? Funny how some articles are accepted without question, especially the anti HP ones.
Matt Ames was convicted Bobit.
Following your bosses business model.
Can one of you experts help me? Who’s more responsible? The “businessman” or the directors of the company that took huge commissions? Or are all in it neck deep?
The great visionary surrounds himself with people that tell him how great he is, how great the business model is, and how the rest of the world is responsible for any shortcomings.
@Harlequin Ponzi Scheme
Yes, and he pays them double the going rate for kissing his arse.
So was it Drummond that took people’s money for non existent properties in Thailand?
No. Only a w@nk stain could do such a thing.
As ever the HP apologists attack the messenger and ignore the news. So let’s just consider the the substance of the issue –
“At the centre of the controversy was Briton Richard Haughton, who in Pattaya reached the heady heights of being President of the Pattaya-Jomtien Rotary Club. He started Harlequin (Thailand) in a fanfare of publicity with United Kingdom Harlequin Property supremo David Ames offering the condos as retirement homes and as sure fire investments.
But most of their projects for which they took money never even got off plan. And people buying from Haughton, who broke away and started TPME Co Ltd, Thai Property and Media Exhibitions, did not know that the company they were paying did not even own the properties. Cheques were paid in the name Harlequin and TPME – but the company which actually owned the property was called Headland Holdings, and run by a Thai woman and two of Haughton’s subordinates Nicholas Pearce and Paul Salisbury.”
I expect that there will be denials that HP UK and DA were involved in this but…
oh, one more thing, wasn’t the HP rebuttal of the DD due last Friday?
No BBaywatch, you miss the point. You (again) selectively quote from Andrew Drummonds own blog an article written by him in which, for instance he describes Kanokrat Booth as ” fearless” That would be the same person that Drummond had a “special” relationship. The same person who was featured on YouTube making threats with a knife. Evidently Drummond is quoted he did not know what the word “pimp” ment. And you want to quote this convicted prisoner?
Doesn’t look good for Harlequin and Dave.
Quoting Bbaywatch above 8.05. “At the centre of the controversy was Briton Richard Haughton, who in Pattaya reached the heady heights of being President of the Pattaya-Jomtien Rotary Club. He started Harlequin (Thailand) in a fanfare of publicity with United Kingdom Harlequin Property supremo David Ames offering the condos as retirement homes and as sure fire investments.”
Can anyone tell me what date approximately? What years did this happen?
Is this where the millions came from that was used to buy the land in the Caribbean?
Anyone got a link to the HP DD rebuttal?
I’d love to see how they spun it!
And this YouTube video has Ames telling potential investors that they can expect capital and revenue income from their Harlequin Property Thailand investment at essentially no risk.
From HARLEQUIN MANAGEMENT SERVICES
( SOUTH EAST) LIMITED
Company Number: 04205220
May 2013
JOINT ADMINISTRATORS’ REPORT
Page 8 of 13
‘Dubai/Thailand Properties
In addition to the Dubai property detailed above, the Company also held an interest in a number of other properties located in Dubai and Thailand. Please note that a number of these properties were disposed PRIOR [my caps] to the Administration. The Joint Administrators are trying to ascertain whether there are any further recoveries to be made in this matter.’
Let’s hope they have there eye on the ball.
e.Anonymous 11.37. I heard some gossip abot HP saying the DD was “strewn with errors” but I haven’t a link to it. Perhaps someone else can help. I’m sure the expression STREWN WITH ERRORS will have another use, but I can’t quite put my finger on where that might be
Thai Property disposal 11.38. Are the administrators responsible for collecting the assets? Would they be blamed if they let the company they are administering hide assets away?
The administrator’s legal duty is to ensure that any debts owed to the company are repaid so that any creditors can be paid. They can’t sit around in the knowledge that someone owes the company money and not claim it.
All eyes on Shitleys lol
It looks as if some money may be due from a firm with a G***-not-much-cop-as-a-player-these-Days identitiy…”Whoopee, we’re all gonna die!”.
If you’ve got a business meeting at Coatbridge, be sure to stay at the Days Inn at Hamilton Services (just a short drive to the office) for a luxury overnight. Days Inn is what passes for luxury at Harlequin.
The main agent informed my ‘sub agent’ Harlequin simply don’t have the numbers for the Trust – no finance will be forthcoming.
#end game.
It looks as if Shitleys are going to have to look in Dubai and Thailand. Great video Anonymous Bosch 11.38, Thanks.
Down the Crapper 8.22. Will there now be negotiations, redrafting the “Trust”, with RL deciding what goes into it?
Revisit the RL offer of the 13th June 2014. That is the only other option available other than liquidation.
The trust does not have the traction needed to pull it off. Sad and a little desperate organising conference calls for investors.
Things are coming to an end.
Thanks Patience, will do.
Dear All,
Dave Ames will be holding two conference calls on Tuesday 15th July in order to discuss the Trust with any Harlequin agents or investors who have further questions.
The times available are 12 noon and 4.00pm. Calls will last approximately 30 minutes and please note that places are limited.
If you would like to request to take part in the call, please click here to email Karen and state your name, address, whether you are an investor or an agent, and which time slot you would prefer. If there is availability, you will receive an email with the conference call details in due course.
More conference calls will be confirmed at a later date, so there will be other opportunities if you cannot make either of tomorrow’s calls.
Dave Ames looks forward to speaking with some of you and clarifying matters.
Regards,
Harlequin
Poor old Dave…….conference calls are not easy when people are rational; this has all the ingredients of a huge cock up 😉
I will record it just like NFF
Looks like the slow wheels of justice in Thailand are at least turning in favour of the scammed investors:
http://www.expatsblog.com/news/2702146008/pattaya-condo-scam-victims-win-at-court
Yes please Little Blue Book. And let the rest of us listen?
Anonymous Bosch 6.04 Great News! When are the authorities in the UK going to catch up with the Thais? And does the Thailand scam predate Harlequin in the Caribbean (so Dave can’t pretend he didn’t know what would happen to Harlequin)?
Thailand predates the Caribbean sales. There was also Australia, Oman, Dubai, Jamaica, to name just a few others. This started round about 2005 or 2006. HP exhibited at A Place in the Sun and World Travel Market (huge fancy stands). I’ll get the dates later.
WIll get back later. Have to work.
What about the sale of Dubai properties…….. Can I mention that?
Thanks TPD 10.09. It is so cheering to know that there are extra examples of similar schemes, because for every extra one, it makes it harder to suggest (to a lay person) that the Harlequin Caribbean scheme was a genuine business that just got “out of hand”.
As for WHERE DID THE MONEY GO? Here’s an idea for somewhere the Thailand money DIDN’T go – the proposed resorts in the Caribbean.
So does that mean there were 2 (or perhaps more) completely independent schemes? Each of them leaving property purchasers with huge losses in their wake.? Thanks for taking time from your busy schedule to tell the rest of us this.
It figures, just as conman Matt Ames copied Daddies scheme, Ames copied another conman’s scheme?
Just been told another one on Ames legal team are about to leave.
Which Ames legal team member ?
Visited the Merricks site this weekend. what a sad scene! The two show villas that were constructed (but not finished) have been totally vandalized and stripped of anything that had value, and could be removed, including the copper guttering on the roofs. doors, windows, toilets, everything…gone..even the large water tanks that one would need a large truck to haul away, gone. Of course, all building materials on the site have long since been looted, but the vandals have now stripped the buildings themselves. Wild grass grows everywhere, and the unfinished pools have collected water that is now full of black water, mosquitoes and frogs.
This is truly a demonstration of failure…failure to even protect the two show villas that were built with millions of investors money.
Redefining Luxury in the Caribbean is the phrase i think to describe it.
Dan Abrams, he will be leaving end of July.
@ DNJ
Are you seriously suggesting he has that much talent? You must be having a larff!
Spy in the Camp 4.36. Is this why end of July has a significant date for Dave, using the masonic calculator? Is it because he’s going to lose his solicitor, who keeps what goes on in Harlequin at least a little bedded in reality?
It’s the ides of July today…..Wasn’t something going to happen?
Dave Ames, you are one dirty , dillusional scammer, the only people that believe that support your ponzi scheme are either simpletons or on your payroll…. or both.
@Brutus
I’ve been asking the same question every 30/31 days since March.
HPS 6.33. There’s certainly an estury twang on this one and I think it’s different from the one Glenda identified.
Look at the thumbs. They do more dancing than a principal at the Bolshoi.
Any news worth sharing from the conference calls today?
Off to work for Daddy 😉
How good is your source on Dan Abrahams ? He’s young, why would he want to waste his career ?
Patience 7.19. Has he still got one? Can a solicitor still practice after working in a place like Harlequin has turned out to be?
Simon Terry did, however only as a low life ‘consultant solicitor’ AKA can’t get a proper job.;)
Oooops, The Great Visionary does not know yet!!
Abrams did blame God for the flood at BB – poor young fool!
Mightn’t things change for solicitors who used to work at Harlequin, if the P-word started to be used to describe the set up there?
Ames is really showing signs of acute stress, forgetful, confused, irritable,lack of concentration….. the list goes on.
He has recently been to the doctors……….
@ Spy in the Camp
Is this the start of a feeble defence perhaps?
@ BIGTD July 15 9.54am
I’m not sure of the dates of the Thai TV appearance but he mentions seven Caribbean hotels. I suspect that the Thai projects date back to the early days. Someone remarked in the past that the cabanas in the Caribbean have a Far East appearance and that maybe the designs were for another market. The questions that spring to mind about include;
Who initiated the projects? HP?
At what point did HP hand it all over to Haughton and do a runner?
If it was clear that the “business model” wasn’t working in Thailand was it not negligent to replicate it in the Caribbean?
Were the only ever on board to market a “project” that Haughton was running so they simply took a cut of the sales but never owned anything?
What happened to the proceeds of the project?
What about the Australian project that was marketed as “sold out” on internet sites?
Can anyone shed light on any of these because I certainly don’t know the answers.
The conference call with Ames never happened.
@Anonymous Bosch
contact Essex Police and SFO.
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress/harlequin-property.aspx
It’s their job to investigate Harlequin.
Anonymous Bosch 6.46. Thanks for shedding light on a new aspect of Harlequin for me. With all the thousands of people involved with their schemes, THERE MUST BE SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO CAN HELP UNRAVEL THE SITUATION. Even if you know only a little bit, please contribute it.
@ A Spy in the camp 9.01 and AB 6.46. This has been successful in the past. Mental problems developing at a critical time in the legal process …. One who got off lightly even appears to have had a subsequent recovery from Alzheimers!!!! Betcha wish yer sick Granny could have that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Saunders
I particularly like the quote just over half way down the page ‘A DTI report described him as a man who did “unjustifiable favours for friends and himself”.’
Doesn’t that fit rather well for someone else we know? Do you think Dave did his agents, employees and his family unjustifiable favours?
@ A spy in he camp 8.29. No conference call? I wonder why. Not enough people asked for a slot to justify holding the call? Or perhaps no one in the office knows how to set one up Hahahaha.
Imagine if they had actually taken place – chaos, imagine it!! LOL
Not necessarily, if they had been seeded with agents, employees and family. If they allocated say 3/4 of the spaces to As, Es and Fs, it might be an opportunity to persuade a few waverers to sign up for the trust.
conference call ??
It’s so Eighties-management-speak.
Now, who does that remind one of?
clue: Carol Ames’ BobL trust truss trees
Skype anyone?
No of course not! That can’t possibly happen, because you might just see when Dave speaks the ‘troof’ his facial tics, stammering and speech impediments are getting worse by the day. Never good to camera Dave, were you?
Has Dave still got the pimpled-lardy-youths in the front office to back him up (seeing as there is no back office left). And WHO pays their wages?
Ah, the King of management buzz words, the walking wig Mr Lidle. I’ve never had the pleasure of speaking to Dave’s PA, Mrs Ames 😉
Let me make this clear, is his ‘tic for a lie.
Or – Lets be very clear about this
@ scam
The Essex Police and SFO have trawled the internet for all the evidence by now and I know that people have sent them internet material that people had downloaded but which had been hoovered off the live sites before the investigation began. I’m sure they will have used their legal privilege to interview WK and BDO, banks, lawyers etc. That’s why the investigation takes so long I’m guessing. Building a cast iron case takes time.
Talking about tics. Watch the videos and look out for nose touching and then see what the psychologists tell you about that.
@AB 3.24. The link isn’t working. Such a shame, I was looking forward to seeing Dave’s tics and twitches.
Try this one just after 8 minutes in;
Or check out the nose touching in this one;
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/video/bbupdate_20100126.php
Another one of Ames team leaves Vinny Stennings….. so I’m told.
Look what I just found on a train. LOL
It seems that Gareth Fatchett has been swinging both ways, so to speak.
GF made a great play about the compensation he was pursuing regarding the Keydata case, bringing together hundreds of investors in claiming compensation. Very well you may think.
However up to 2003 GF was a director, which he resigned, in a company called Proact Financial. Em no problem so far.
However Proact Financial is on a FSCS hit list of IFAs that have been named as companies that the FSCS are pursuing for funds that have been paid out for the failed Keydata investment.
Here is the link.http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/fscs-hitlist-advisers-keydata-liabilities-revealed/a546692
Total outstanding£142,313
Here is a comment from the bottom of the blog:
Gordon Hay
Nov 29, 2011 at 10:51
“Well no surprises the serial offender AWD are top of the charts and they still claim to have not set aside any reserves to pay this ? V worrying for clients and staff.
More interesting, is Proact Financial @ £142k not in some way connected to one of the solicitors who was championing the claims from clients of N&P ?”
Well one might think that as GF resigned in 2003 then “its nowt to do with me gov”
However closer inspection of the “files on the train” reveal the name of one of the current shareholders in Proact Financial, is a Gayle Elizabeth Ditchburn. Who is Gayle Elizabeth Ditchburn? Why no other than Gareth Fatchetts wife, its her maiden name.
Also it seems that Proact Financial has slipped in a new trading address on Company Check..
1 Haggley Court South, The Waterfront, Brierley Hill, DYS 1XE. Now all you followers of everything RL will recognise that as the new address of RL,Mr Fatchetts company. Starting to see the company connection here?
Of course all the above may be quite innocent, but I’m sure that Mr Fatchett would welcome the opportunity to clarify why a company that he was a director, and his wife is a shareholder is being pursued by the FSCS for monies that was paid out in compensation to his own clients. Muddy waters or what?
And of course the Harlequin claimants money is secure and ring fenced against anything being slipped between one company and another. Especially as the company, Harlequin Investors Ltd, of which Mr Fatchett is the only director, have not filed any accounts yet. Whats a million between friends?
@AB. Thanks so much for the links. The second one, 26th Jan 2010 is funny, because one of the episodes of nose touching coincided with Dave talking about the apartment block being finished by 1st July 2010. I don’t think it’s open to visitors yet.
£400 million missing 😉
Is that Dave’s nose growing tee hee!!
And the psychology
http://cogsci.stackexchange.com/questions/3408/deception-and-nose-touching-does-it-work-for-things-that-are-about-to-be-said
Shake + Vac. I don’t understand the significance of this post, especially as it’s dated Nove 2011. Time for a joke I think.
I have seen Ames use these strange signs
Nick Name, the date is irrelevant. Its the implication of the perceived double values and secrecy. The Harlequin investors have paid £1m to RL and now there is a new company set up with one director and no accounts yet. You dont think this is all a bit, er questionable?
And the logic goes that if RL is dodgy then Harlequin are pure as the driven snow?
Now, now Mr Dalligan, last time you were naughty it cost Dave a few Bob 😉
Fatchitt and Walton are Freemason and that’s why they keep letting Ames off the hook.
All show. Ames outranks them.
Unlike most things on BFP the last statement is true – why do you think Ames is bullet proof!!!
RL are dodgy, yawn…… so predictable.
Looks like Matt Ames got off real easy…this Fraudster got 8 years for @ million Pound Fraud…
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/local_news/basildon/11333934.__2m_trickster_jailed/
2 million pound fraud.
@S + V 7.09. Actually I don’t.
Is £240 x however many clients/contracts = £1 million? You’re allowed to say it if you think it and I don’t know it.
My understanding is that the £240 (or a different figure for some people) was paid for work associated with getting the DD and various meetings with Ames to try to thrash out a solution RL could recommend to their clients. (The last step didn’t work.). It included an element of profit.
I perceive the £1 million (if it is) as fee money, that rightly belongs in the firm’s accounts to spend on getting the DD and associated running costs of the firm .
I have confidence that £240 was enormously good value, given the quantity of info revealed in the DD and that each client got it so cheaply, because RL got economies of scale.
If S + V is suggesting that part of the money is going to pay damages for an earlier case, that may be true, especially of the profit element of the £240s. I don’t have a problem with how RL spends its profits, BECAUSE THEY HAVE DELIVERED THE GOODS AS FAR AS £240-WORTH OF DD IS CONCERNED. (RL has also explained that Harlequin won’t allow RL to release the data that slotted into the DD would make sense of the situation – not strictly part of S + V’s complaint).
Until Iread your post, I’d no idea RL had set up a new company called Harlequin Investors (too new for public to see accounts yet). What follows is pure speculation. They might have done it in the run up to forming a “trust”, they could recommend to their clients, if Ames had been prepared to include in it enough assets. A pure guess on my part that the company was set up in advance so that it could have been presented as a heavy gun if needed. (And so far it appears not to have been.) Perhaps a case of “instead of your trust and your trustees, we’ll put it in our company with our director”. If that stage had been reached, I have confidence that RL would have told the clients what had been arranged.
If there’d been any assets going I’d have felt much safer with them in a company with GF as director that a trust with Bob Lidell as trustee. Until people can see the accounts, there’s no evidence that any sum has been put into this company.
I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU EXPECT THE £240s TO BE RING FENCED. IN MY VIEW, THE £240s BELONG IN RL’S ORDINARY ACCOUNT (to spend how they choose).
I operate from the position that I don’t need to know every thought that crosses my solicitor’s mind. Once I have established that the firm delivers what it agrees to and I have confidence that they are looking after my interests (getting the result nearest to my first choice at a good price), I AM HAPPY. AND THEY CAN SPEND THEIR PROFITS HOWEVER THEY PLEASE.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RL AND HARLEQUIN IS THAT RL TOOK A FEE AND DELIVERED WHAT IT SAID IT WOULD. HARLEQUIN TOOK DEPOSITS FOR BUILDING 30% OF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PROPERTIES, WHICH IT HAS FAILED TO DO. HARLEQUIN HAS ALSO FAILED TO COME UP WITH THE GUARANTEED MORTGAGES (EVEN THE VIRTUAL MORTGAGES IN AMES’S 10 MINUTE NOSE RUBBING VIDEO). HARLEQUIN SIMPLY DIVERTED TOO MUCH MONEY AWAY FROM THE PROJECT TO LET IT BE VIABLE.
One of the differences between how RL and Harlequin handle profits, is that RL takes a profit after it has done the work (or at least set aside the money to do the work) it has been paid for. Harlequin took such big commissions BEFORE the work was done, that there wasn’t enough money left to do the work.
I see the new Harlequin Investor company as a complete red herring.
Small point -Keydata did not start until 2005/6.
GF left Proact Financial in 2003.
Don’t let facts get in the way.
Oh Gareth shut up!
You have been found out
You used information you gained from clients to form you DD without their permission did you not
Anonymous 8.38. A few days ago, the topic of the possibility the Newman? had used info from Harlequin on his blog Harlecon? was raised. And somebody said it was a complete no-no to use info from the clients against them …
Are you revisiting this Anonymous? And are you talking about Keydata/Proact Financial or Harlequin?
Someone mentioned a “red-herring”. For the past several days most
postings have been “red-herrings”. ALL that matters is…….
–What did Dave Ames do and when did he do it.–
@Anonymous 9.07. Are we back to dating the videos and what he said on them? Or perhaps you know significant things DA did rather than just said? And perhaps these are earlier than people like me realise?
Practice, you are completely missing the point.
Proact financial financial have moved to the same address as RL.
Mrs Fatchett is a shareholder in Proact.
Proact have been chased by the FSCS for the compensation money they paid out for the bad investment advice they gave to Keydata clients. (have they paid it yet?)
GF represented those clients to get compensation from the FSCS.
Would not want those facts to get in the way would we?
Nick Name, no need to keep shouting.
Will Dan Dalligan be able to keep up the repayments on his Range Rover now DA kicked him out?
Poor little pot bellied Dan.
Been collecting anything for the ‘laundry’ recently 😉
Jesus try and keep up, the RR went about 12 months ago!
Did someone mention an ex in sex?
Pity the little tummy remains.
Daniel Dalligan in a spot of bother…
Click to access fatchett-v-dalligan-order-04-03-13.pdf
Here is where some of the investors’ money went. Where are they now?
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/launch/gallery.php
Desperate Dan(s) will both have been tainted by the toxic toad, both are are the radar of several authorities & they know it.
Leaving harlequin won’t change that.
£240 each seems like a very reasonable fee for a firm of solicitors to charge for an extensive and time consuming due diligence investigation into a complex organisation with operations in a range of global jurisdictions. No doubt the quantum fees covered the thousands of professional man hours that went into the exercise along with significant disbursements and an element of profit (as you would expect with any functioning business).
On the other hand Harlequin spent £1m on a party:
“Investors flock to Harlequin’s £1m celebrity launch party
Harlequin Hotels and Resorts has launched its newest Caribbean development, the Marquis Estate in St Lucia, with a two-day event that, at an estimated cost of around £1 million, was one of the most expensive the industry has ever seen.
Sports star partners Gary Player and Pat Cash were among the 2,000 attendees, as were the Prime Minister of St Lucia, Stephenson King, and the Prime Minister of St Vincent and the Grenadines, Ralph Gonsalves.
“This was a very exciting and gratifying event,” said Dave Ames, Harlequin Hotels and Resorts’ chairman. “Harlequin has become one of the leading developers in the Caribbean and this special event was a celebration of our achievements to date and the perfect platform to showcase our exciting new projects to the travel industry and media.”
To Ames he thinks that £1million of a ‘do’ is just what business people do, someone should tell him fizzy wine is not Champagne, nor should it be served in plastic glasses. 😉
Good that progress is being made by RL – I am happy to see they are starting the process of litigation to help the victims.
In regards to Harlequin / RL’s past work – let’s take a tally of what’s happened and where.
RL performed the DD for clients to get their trust sorted. Admittedly, it was a rather grey area as to what they would to exactly, but as they’re a practising firm of solicitors (who have insurance & other overheads), you have to expect them to earn an income somewhere. The £200 (£40 is for VAT) is, in my opinion, a completely reasonable figure for the work they performed. Now they’ve taken this work & are using it in their litigation. Good times.
Harlequin took in £400m from victims to build a series of resorts. The resorts looked beautiful on paper… pity they didn’t live up to that expectation in real life. Only now are we beginning to see the persistent story of Harlequin – constant misappropriation of funds, from legitimate projects to harebrained schemes. Constant fictitious progress reports
& a compulsion to lie to its victims.
Out of the 6000 investors, 0 have a return. Zilch.
This will soon go down as one of the biggest property scams this country has ever seen.
I wonder how Ames will cope with all the worlds press and the cameras in his face with his ugly mug splashed around the world when he gets nicked.
What do people expect for £240? go down to your local solicitor and tell them you want to take action against Harlequin – £240 will get you one hour if you are lucky.
@rats leaving a sinking ship. I bet you believe in Santa clause and fairies also. Wrong again. So boring the anti HP trolling.
How predictable that the RL apologists come out in force rather than face up to the unethical dealings of RL. Just waiting for the Gareth Fatchett headline that he can walk on water. Lol
Just sent my yellow form back to RL.
And Harlequin are ethical best laugh I’ve had since Matt Ames got nicked.
Can I mention the SFO 😉
What’s the yellow form for? I missed that one.
https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/harlequin-house-of-cards-continues-to-fall/#comments
RL are taking on the SIPP companies over the DD and annual charges, good on em!
Why is Harlequin getting so fixated by securing external finance? By the Chairman’s own explanation, the business model does not require it because they will hand over all the keys to the owners on 1 July 2010 and the revenue generated by the resort will more than fund the repayments. Is Harlequin actually trying to tell the world that their business model doesn’t work?
The DD they done, you know, when they got paid a million quid for it…. in commissions 😉
@Anonymous Bosch
That’s naughty Mr. Ames said all the ‘financiers’ he speaks to love the Harlequin business model, so much so none of them wish to invest in the toxic toad.
Maybe, one day it will dawn on him, he is the problem.
Mrs Ames is worried about being able to buy some new shiny white teeth now things are a little tight.
She is really worried about that nasty freezing order and her divorce.
Yeah, that’s about as accurate as Dan Ds range rover and Vinny Stenning leaving. What are you going to make up next? Troll.
Christ, is this thing still running? This house of cards is being held up with some pretty strong glue. I can’t wait for it to crumble so we can all move on. We all know collapse is inevitable. Why drag it out any longer? Nobody wins.
Hello Sid,
Don’t worry remember the Masonic calender?
Sid, so you are quite happy to lose whatever money you have invested?
Will people stop wittering on about the Freemasons doing this that or the other. Posts like this have been going on about this for well over a year and nothing has been done so I can only conclude they are a bunch of powerless old ******* or the are uninterested in the woes of Harlequin; quite probably both.
29 July will come and it will go. A new date will emerge as the big one to watch out for. It’s all a bit like the kind of people who constantly predict the end of the world is nigh.
For everyone’s benefit, just stop posting and give us all a break.
It’s rumoured that all the Ames wives are currently petitioning for divorce. Carol, Amanda, and Mrs Postman Pat too. Now, why is that?
It couldn’t possibly be anything to do with attempting to lay claim on half of the jointly-owned marital assets ie properties.
Nah surely not.
March 2009 link to Port Vale and Bill Bratt given green light to hold investment talks [with Harlequin]
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Port-Vale-Bratt-given-green-light-hold-investment-talks/story-12498225-detail/story.html
‘Company chairman and owner David Ames already had strong links to football as a former youth development officer at Southend United.
His son and company director, Daniel, is a former professional who once played for the Shrimpers at Vale Park in a reserve-team clash.
Bratt added: “Harlequin want to find further investment for the club from other sources.’
Yeah I bet.
De Vorce Wife. 7.27. Whether or not the rumours are true, if the divorced wives claim half the assets, does that keep their halves out of a compensation pot? If the whole house was found to be bought with “improperly acquired” money, would it be confiscated in its entirety? Thanks in advance for your expert help.
@Anon 6:58, no I’m not happy to lose the best part of £200k, In fact I’m pretty pissed about it, but it’s out of my hands so I don’t really have a choice.
ROYGBIV
no idea mate,
I would have thought it would be up to what the judge says in court.
Children have to be considered though and the mother might be able to claim more than half of the assets ie the marital home.
Does Postman Dan (or may be his soon-to-be ex Missus) own a swanky finca in Mallorca?
I can’t see how CA can benefit from a divorce. As director she is first in line for the clink before her hubby. She has legal duties and responsibilities and it won’t wash in a court of law if she tries to plead ignorance.
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Looks to me like the Ames family are a pretty dysfunctional bunch, they do say the love of money is the route to all evil or something like that.
After all it was Gods fault for causing BB to flood according to the in house boy solicitor Dan Abrams
Thanks AB….that made everything perfectly clear.
David Ames: What a success that man is, great family unit, bankrupt twice, hated the world over, ridiculed in equal measure.
Thanks AB 5.54. I wonder if your last paragraph is the reason CA didn’t appear to do much round the office. I wonder if the intention was to let one of Dan x 3 to carry the can for mummy.
Either don’t work too hard or enjoy your trip to the Eastern Hemispere!
ROYGBIV.
A director can’t evade responsibility by claiming that they didn’t know what was going on. They are statutorily required to be fully informed about the business and their signature appears on the financial returns as a confirmation that they are in control of the business. If this goes to Court then it will be Carol and Dan in the dock not the Chairman.
Ignorance is no defense, the old women if easy game – she has no idea what’s going on.
She is basically Dave Ames PA, she has no say what goes on.
Can anyone clarify if Dave Ames is subject to an order disqualifying him from being a director? If so, when does that expire? If so, does anyone know if his duties for HMSSE Ltd were allowed by a Court?
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I was told by my agent ( who was pro Harlequin) that Ames has not got anywhere near the numbers for the trust to work. The offer of finance is not really all it’s made out to be – nothing firm.
He recons that any finance company is going to wait until Harlequin goes bust then buy it for next to nothing.
Ames has run out of options
My agent worked for TM.
@Junket July 2009,17th 7.05.Great set of photos. In16 and 17, they got a sit down lunch, 18. This was followed by a black tie dinner 77 and 78. When the first day’s group had to watch a presentation, they got seats, 167.
On the second day, the people who ACTUALLY PAID for the junket had to stand to watch the presentation, 107 and 109. They were given stand up nibbles but neither lunch nor dinner.
Most of the photos show Dave with an insincere grin, but on one he shares what looks like a knowing glance with someone also photographed in best bib and tucker.
Dim Reaper, your agent is so right!
“Nigel and Karen Griffin, Directors of Alexander James Properties Worldwide, one of Harlequin Properties most successful agents”, to quote the Gary Player site, were the first to buy a Gary Player hillside villa at the Marquis Estate http://garyplayer.com/news/news_detail/harlequin_agent_reserves_first_gary_player_hillside_villa/
They feature on the selection of photos at the launch at the Grove. According to the list of commissions paid to agents, they did pretty well out of Harlequin. £1,686,300 of doing well. That puts them comfortably in the top 20 “earners”.
My agent mentioned the growing number of agents that are ‘turning’ on Ames, for a couple of reasons, he lied to them , some invested, and to be honest (my agents quote)
” The little shit has washed his hands of us, and he would shaft us all if it would save his skin, so we may as well turn whistle blower”
The curse of Harlequin strikes again http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28368669
Port Vale face being wound up. For those with long memories, Port Vale was the football club the Great Visionary supported with purchaser funds a few years ago.
Meanwhile PM Gonsalves is having both hysterics and hissy-fits
over “internet crazies” on the i-witness-news svg blog. I wonder
who will turn on whom first when the Harlequin/BB ponzi scheme
starts showing the obvious corruption in the local press. They both have such an amazing command of the English language it should prove
fascinating.
@Baz Bomber 4.13. Sounds entirely deserved to me. They gave the awful Ameses opportunities for self promotion, by letting Dan present the cups. They enjoyed spending other people’s pensions on crap standard football. High time they were wound up.
And Nick, don’t forget that ghastly “photo-op” with the Bratts, their local MP, the Great Visionary and his delightful wife at the House of Commons. Horrible bunch the lot of ’em.
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/news_detail.php?NewsID=26
Hi Baz! There is something truly pathetic about spending several hundred thousand of other people’s money to get an invitation to lunch at the P of W. Was the photo taken at that round place, between the Ls and Cs, where the news reports are made?
Poor MP! She thought she was taking the new MyBloodyEgotism to lunch and got landed with the Ameses as well.
Hey Baz, let’s get the A10s out and turd bomb a few swimming pools!
Warthogs over Wickford has quite a nice ring to it.
I may have to change my posting name.
Yes please. I love it!
@BB 1.29. Nigel and Karen Griffin sound easily impressed. Fancy describing meeting an old retired sportsman as “MOMENTOUS”. When you factor in the gossip that his business was going down the tubes, perhaps they were grateful he wasn’t on a zimmer frame. I suppose the deposit on the villa being such a small fraction of their commissions might have cheered them up a bit.
I met the Griffins a couple of times. They were very annoyed that I didn’t want to buy any Harlequin properties through them. I now know why.
Karen always looked as though she had been poured into her dress and had forgotten to say “when”.
I guess when the highlight of your life to date has been going on one of the many drunken agents’ inspection tours with the Great Visionary, meeting even a washed-up has-been would be quite memorable.
I wonder whether they really believed the CGIs that the intellectually challenged Simon Taylor had had done of the sun setting over the sea at the Marquis?
Let me make this clear…I would like to thank those investors who sent me cash for completions, I don’t have an escrow account but, I was happy to spend it.
Finance is still at an advanced stage, but it’s so commercially sensitive even I don’t know.
I have a plan but, but it’s so commercially sensitive even I don’t know.
Garet Fatchips DD report is strewn with errors but, but it’s so commercially sensitive even I don’t know.
I just eeeer dont know.
There’s one in those photos at the Grove that not only forgot to say when, while being poured into the dress … she also forgot to say when to the surgeon!
Joking apart, there’s something in the HMSSE DD that makes sense with the first day of the Grove and makes me quetion whether there was ever room for 9000 proprties at 5* density. I dare say there is enough land to accommodate 9000 at Butlin’s density (no insult to Butlins intended). There’s something in the DD that tends to invert the Harlequin business model. The first day at the Grove (who was there and why) is a concrete example.. Keep on Warthogging.
What about the million quid Ames spent on security? Now that is surly a sign of mental illness?
A delusion of grandeur is the fixed, false belief that one possesses superior qualities such as genius, fame, omnipotence, or wealth. It is most often a symptom of schizophrenia, but can also be a symptom found in psychotic or bipolar disorders, as well as dementia (such as Alzheimer’s).
People with a delusion of grandeur often have the conviction of having some great but unrecognized talent or insight. They may also believe they have made some important discovery that others don’t understand or appreciate.
Less commonly, the individual may have the delusion of having a special relationship with a prominent person (such as being an adviser to the President). Or the person may believe that actually are a very prominent and important person, in which case the actual person may be regarded as an imposter.
Grandiose delusions may have religious content, such as the person believes he or she has received a special message from God or another deity.
Sometimes, in popular language, this disorder may be known as “megalomania,” but is more accurately referred to as narcissistic personality disorder if it is a core component of a person’s personality and identity. In such disorders, the person has a greatly out-of-proportion sense of their own worth and value in the world. People with this issue can also sometimes have a taste for the finer, more extravagant things in life.
Sometimes drug use or abuse can intensify or bring on episodes of delusion of grandeur. People who take phencyclidine (PCP) or amphetamines are especially at risk. People who are high and experience a delusion of grandeur may be at increased risk for physically harmful behavior. For instance, if you believe you are capable of flying after taking PCP, and try to jump off a 10-story building based upon that false belief, you may be at serious risk of death.
A delusion of grandeur is the fixed, false belief that one possesses superior qualities such as genius, fame, omnipotence, or wealth. It is most often a symptom of schizophrenia, but can also be a symptom found in psychotic or bipolar disorders, as well as dementia (such as Alzheimer’s).
People with a delusion of grandeur often have the conviction of having some great but unrecognized talent or insight. They may also believe they have made some important discovery that others don’t understand or appreciate.
Less commonly, the individual may have the delusion of having a special relationship with a prominent person (such as being an adviser to the President). Or the person may believe that actually are a very prominent and important person, in which case the actual person may be regarded as an imposter.
Grandiose delusions may have religious content, such as the person believes he or she has received a special message from God or another deity.
Sometimes, in popular language, this disorder may be known as “megalomania,” but is more accurately referred to as narcissistic personality disorder if it is a core component of a person’s personality and identity. In such disorders, the person has a greatly out-of-proportion sense of their own worth and value in the world. People with this issue can also sometimes have a taste for the finer, more extravagant things in life.
Like spending £400 million and building F ***k All
Bloody hell, how many conditions can one man have?
people with paranoid personality disorder are generally characterized by having a long-standing pattern of pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others. A person with paranoid personality disorder will nearly always believe that other people’s motives are suspect or even malevolent.
Individuals with this disorder assume that other people will exploit, harm, or deceive them, even if no evidence exists to support this expectation. While it is fairly normal for everyone to have some degree of paranoia about certain situations in their lives , people with paranoid personality disorder take this to an extreme — it pervades virtually every professional and personal relationship they have.
Individuals with Paranoid Personality Disorder are generally difficult to get along with and often have problems with close relationships. Their excessive suspiciousness and hostility may be expressed in overt argumentativeness, in recurrent complaining, or by quiet, apparently hostile aloofness. Because they are hypervigilant for potential threats, they may act in a guarded, secretive, or devious manner and appear to be “cold” and lacking in tender feelings.
Their combative and suspicious nature may elicit a hostile response in others, which then serves to confirm their original expectations.
Or spending a million quid on non existent security threats
I wonder if Sean Ghent fanned the flames of his disturbed boss to enrich himself – never, Dave get ripped off 🙂
Apparently there is a recording of the recent Harlequin Trust Roadshow floating around. That would make interesting listening for those not able to attend. Does anyone have a copy they could link to?
It is quite apparent that SVG is falling apart and with it Buccament
Bay.
I was not worthy of recording someone commented on the RL site, but that’s gone (thankfully)
Ames is mad, simple.
At some point in the future he will lose his home because of the freezing order and he will go to prison.
Then we party!
Look no further for crazy people than ones who think Ames will get finance.
He wouldn’t even get a wonga loan 😉
Anonymous 18 July 4.21 pm
The thing with Ralph is that he’s clever and articulate. He has PhD from Manchester in Government, a bachelor’s degree in Economics and is a barrister. He dumbs down his language for local consumption, pitching it at the level he knows the electorate will understand and using the vernacular where appropriate.
Where the target audience is a more international one, Ralph is quite capable of using normal English.
The same cannot be said of the bumbling, mumbling, stumbling Great Visionary.
What a sterling job the Ames family have done.
Carpet –
RL being quiet is because they sense the end is near. If so, they want to be away from the Harlequin PR blame games.
RL are in this for the redress, so why get involved in a side show.
Lets all wish Gareth has a nice long three week holiday he so deserves it
I’m told that The Great Visionary tried to do a deal with Marathon Man this week. They both thought it was a lovely was to settle matters. Marathon Man’s clients turned out to be not quite as gormless as he had hoped.
Perhaps he’ll have to dust off those stat demands he didn’t do anything with, get them reissued and then enforced before someone gets sufficiently annoyed to report him to the SRA.
Lovely way, even.
Warthogs – you mushroom !
@White horse July 18, 11.06. please try to get a copy of this. It would make great viewing.
Warthogs over Wickford, 11.04. Baz, if there’s any glide stretching and spinning into a turd filled pool, it’ll be the great visionary, because he’s running out of options. What a smelly old joy to behold!
I wish people wouldn’t keep calling Ames mad. It has been used as a defence before, especially Alzheimers – ask deadly ernest.
RL’s final email before the holidays. Maybe.
All,
Discussions
We continue to engage with Harlequin to seek a resolution for our clients. There are a number of different (strongly held) points of view in this matter. All of these views needs to be accommodated. Unless and until this happens,the position is one of stalemate.
In order to make the Harlequin / PHIG offered trust viable – 90%+ of investors are needed to join. The numbers are nowhere near this figure. The figures would rise significantly, if our clients could be accommodated.
We will hold our discussion quietly and report back when appropriate. Although emotions are high and tempers can get frayed, venting via Updates is not productive.
Practical Matters
1. We have seen a significant number of (mostly direct or re-mortgage) investors in the last 8 weeks. We are completely full with forward going appointments and have decided to take no further appointments until the start of September 2014.
2. We have issued our letter to SIPP investors in relation to (a) the annual management charges levied by SIPP operators and (b) the original due diligence undertaken. This letter was posted at the start of this week and should have now been received by everyone. If not, please email sally.haslam at regulatorylegal.co.uk .
3. We have received a significant number of repayment forms from investors. We have communicated the extent of these requests to Harlequin as part of our discussions.
4. We continue to receive both winning adjudications and other “out of court” settlements. We have enough redress clients to create a separate group in this regard. Details will be given shortly.
August 2014
1. August 2014 is our holiday period. The courts close and many of our staff our not in the office. Unless something major happens, we do not intend to issue updates during this period. We are sure that investors would like a month off from Harlequin related issues. We certainly would !
Legal Surgeries
We will be running Legal Surgeries in September 2014. We will be sending a letter in mid / late August 2014 with booking details.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
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It’s odd how they insist Harlequin need 90% support for their trust, but refuse to accept that the same should apply to any RL trust.
Gareth Fatchett is going away on a ‘Masonic break’ he needs to revise for his new position in UGLE.
If you divide 3 into 9 = 3 – its just Masonic code.
3 3 highest rank of a mason – Fatchip and fatty Walton boreemasons 33 degree Freemasons
@ Warthogs over Wickford 1.56. Your very last bit, is it about dividing and ruling? – must appeal to Masons. Little subgroups that don’t know what the others are doing …..
ROYGBIV I suspect there is some truth in the divide/rule suggestion. It has bugger all to do with Freemasonry though and is much more rooted in RL working out how to manage a diverse set of client interests, I’d think. The redress claims have always been what they were after. There are insurers behind the IFAs, at least at the moment. I do wonder how many renewals will have Harlequin excluded from the policies? That will make redress much harder as then there’s only the IFA’s assets to go for plus a limited FSCS claim.
Cash purchasers and remortgage types are far harder for them to deal with, particularly as it seems many of the mortgage applications were, to put it mildly, being economic with the truth. All they really have to go for is whatever can be raised by selling off Harlequin’s assets – unless there really is a financier who is willing to throw money at a problem like that.
@Warthogs over Wickford
You mean mortgage fraud; yes that would be difficult to deal with !!!!
Anyone would borrowed money to invest is very stupid or very greedy.
Never borrow money to invest; never invest what you can’t afford to lose.
Never borrow money to invest? That’s would be the housing market screwed then.
I trust you are one of the stupid ones?
Thanks WoW, sounds like bad news for remortgage/cash buyers.
It is, they have redress option, unless its a cell.
Yes I borrowed money to buy my house. Did you pay cash or do you rent?
Imagine if you were daft once and committed fraud, then handed over tens of thousands to Chris Corny and his woman.
That would be REALLY STUPID!
I bought my house cash, from commission, only a year; and its not in my name before you start salivating.
Set me up for life thank you very much.
The 90% figure in the RL update is a guess. RL know that Ames has nowhere near enough people.
RL also know that if they are patient, they will get their reward.
Once Harlequin goes, redress will be the only option left. OK, RL will get some competition, but they are in the box seat for the majority.
RL know which agents have been “helpful” and which agents have been less so. I would not want to be on the “bad” list.
By shutting up RL do not give Ames the PR angle. Shrewd thinking.
GF appears to be having August off ! He clearly does not believe much will happen in the month.
Roll on September !
@Investors crims? I must refer the Hon Gentleman to the rather splendid observation by the Rt Hon Francis Urquhart.
Fraud if fraud.People should take responsibility for their own actions
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/obtaining_mortgage_fraud/
People in glass houses 😉
What if the agents or people close to these ‘fraudsters’ tipped off the lenders?
They have the details.
I would put nothing passed these lot
Harlequin sued investors for the balances?
David Ames is looking to get an investor to take on the contracts of the resorts, then they will demand the balances, meanwhile those muppets who signed up to his trust are stuffed.
Ask yourself why the hotels are not in the trust – simple they ‘belong’ to Ames, he has a sale agreed on them, he will trouser the cash.
You don’t actually think any of this is for the benefit of investors ? When has that ever been the case?
what if
are you saying that harlequin and the agents had evidence that it’s clients were obtaining finance unlawfully…… and did nothing about it ?.
Harlequin sued investors for the balances?
hilarious,
more chance of harlequin completing 9000 hotel rooms in 5 years.
If you have committed mortgage it’s your own fault. it’s a bit rich trying to sue Ames – for misrepresentation when you committed fraud.
I have been contacted by a claims company, via text asking me if I wish to use them on ‘no win no fee’ basis regarding Harlequin.
When I spoke with them they said PHIG gave them my contact details. I not did agree to this.
They, got very evasive when I asked if they had paid PHIG anything for the contact details or would be paying them in the future.
Is there anything PHIG won’t do for money?
Kettle calling the pot,
I lost my pension after investing ,, not sure how that constitutes mortgage fraud ? Its quite difficult obtaining a mortgage, in the caribbean, with harlequin under investigation by the SFO, particularly when is no hotel room to actually raise a mortgage on. LOL. 9000 purchases, 100 completed hotel rooms…. you do the maths.
does Dave console himself in the belief that nearly everyone that invested committed fraud, and so that justifies him taking a 400 million interest free loan under false representation, with no means of returning that money, or fulfilling his part of the deal.
. Firstly, many people invested with cash and through their sipp. and secondly, people invested through his creation, the 100% finance scheme, does he really think he can now accuse those all those investors of fraud and just walk away ?
Dave and his agents profited from the money raised by investors, if they have evidence fraud was committed, and allowed this practice to continue, the words aiding and abetting spring to mind.
Why am I not surprised by Bob Lidell he is Dave Ames brother in law after all…..
KISS
Any news on Robert Storey ?
What news would you like?
They do look very similar
Bob Ladell the brother in law….
Don’t forget the “news” on BB. Another 5* rating by an independent reviewer. Posted 3 days ago. Toodle pip.
You are a sad old fool Bob. Did the 5* rating mention the £400 million gone missing? Or no finance? or the SFO?
Bob knocks one out over this
go over to Tripdvisor
and mention it then! They need shaking up.
The TA reviews and various “awards” that BB has “won” are really rather irrelevant to the underlying mess.
According to Harlequin’s own figures, they’ve spent over £11 million on land at BB and £100 million on construction. That’s right, £100 million. There are what, 100 or so cabanas available and a couple of restaurants. That is some seriously expensive real estate.
According to the former general manager of BB, Mark Sawkins, BB was losing US$1m a month. In the absence of any more recent (and audited) figures, that’s the best information available as to the viability of the place.
I’d reckon that pretty much anyone could spend that much on a limited project and make it look wonderful. Prop it up to the tune of US$12 million a year and, if you can’t give customers an incredible experience while staying there, you really are monumentally incompetent.
Bob missed this part of the 5 star review…”The only problem we encountered was the Mosquitos… We had to have our room sprayed whilst at dinner as one night we were all eaten alive. Spraying the room worked though so I would recommend asking for this or taking your own spray and coils. ”
Mosquito Bay=Buccament Bay
It takes only one bite to contract chikungunya…..I wonder what the
gestation time is.
Oh dear oh dear. The trolls are out in force. So easy to feed a the trolls lol
Looks more like you were well fed Bob. Ha ha ha , lol , toodle pip.
Robert Story sits on his loo and scrolls
Dreaming of cabana income and a Rolls
Casting contempt at any and all
Who don’t review Buccament in awe
Yet it is he who truly is the King of Trolls
No you numpty, don’t you think I deliberately put up the TA review just to get the trolls trolling? Hook line and sinker. Ha haha lol
@rs
“I have met the enemy and it is me”…..Pogo
Ay Bob the lap dog, what happened to the Amles trust 😉
Let’s face it without me on here some of you would have nothing to moan about all day. You remind me of my fish in the pond, throw a bit of food in and they all come to the surface together in a feeding frenzy, they don’t know why they do it but it gives them satisfaction. What’s the memory retention of a fish? About 5 seconds, just like the trolls on here. They don’t know why they do it but it seems a good idea. Lol. Must go and feed the trolls, ups sorry fish, again.
Dave Ames had had several meeting with insolvency practitioners last week, the finance crashed and burned (again) he has run out of options now. He is considering what’s best for him.
Troll troll troll trolling along. Game set and match, absolute rubbish.
Lets see Robert, you just carry on believing your hero Dave.
Yes of course DA is going to walk away from a potential settlement re WK. Yes of course he is isn’t he.
OF LIFE
Robert
On this forum you have constantly bragged of your property that you have purchased from Harlequin.
However the truth is that you have over 100 properties.
You have claimed that you have been receiving your 10 per cent rental income when you have actually been receiving 100 per cent.
robert storey quote of the day
Let’s face it without me on here some of you would have nothing to moan about all day.
Actually Robert, 99% + of the 6000 investors that have lost a total of £400 million to the great visionary Dave Ames have plenty to be upset about.
Anonymous, what are you babbling on about.
Holkham – fancy that !
Running claims management without authorisation !
Bob and Dave really know how to pick them !
A highly reputable top 25 accountancy firm against an international property company with virtually no property that’s partly in administration, being investigated by the SFO and the Essex Police and with no accounts having been filed in the Caribbean for over 7 years (quite apart from anthing else) — yeah, I think I know which horse I’d back on that one.
Notwithstanding this, the sums of money being bandied about for the case are laughable; the law is generally speaking realistic, and expecting to receive the sort of figures mentioned is fairly bizarre. Wasn’t the case against the builder supposed to provide the mythical funds to make this all work?
That’s why an experienced QC has taken the case on. Yep he doesn’t think it’s got a chance lol
“Lawyer accepts large fee to do a job shocker”
Are these not linked to a company that SOLD HARLEQUIN PRODUCTS?
Some religious zealot Rev. God squad
Don’t tell me they are independent – just like Bob ‘give me some donation’ ladell.
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/09006276/HOLKHAM-COMPENSATION
Keep up, not on a NWNF basis they don’t.
And guess who sold Harlequin …..
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/08223564/POWERSCOURT-HOLKHAM-LIMITED/companies-house-docs#other-documents
I wonder if they are making any ‘donations’ to PHIG.
Yes, Bob only takes donations from agents and anyone else.
But, never a special special deal from a relation.
Robert Storey,
what the 6000 investors want to know is how Dave is going to build the other 8900 hotel rooms, having spent 400 million completing just 100 hotel , failing that, they want to know how dave is going to repay the money he took, through false representation.
I want to meet you one day robert, I want find out what sort of person spends his day mocking others that have had their lives devastated by the actions of Dave and carol ames.
It’s all hokum 😉
@and what if, yeah right, hiding behind an anonymous ID? Yes of course you want to meet me. Funny how I did not post on here on ages then someone asked about me. I don’t mock investors, I mock the trolls on here who just post rubbish and lies to cause disruption.
NWNF Bob? Is that all totally in place just like the finance and the marina and all the resorts and the repayments and the massive profits? Or is that just something else that you’ve taken on face value like some peculiar gullible simpleton?
I sometimes can’t work out which is worse; whether you’re peddling your strange line because in reality you’re petrified about the consequences of the idiocy that led you to this point and are stubbornly Canute style trying to deny what’s happened, or if you actually genuinely believe half of the nonsense that you spout (which on a human level is really sobering).
– Robert Storey
Don’t you think it ridiculous that you can spout – “hiding behind an
anonymous ID” – as if that was not you until you were outed by
Erica (Bless Her Heart)? How many phony ID’s did you post under
until your very limited way of expression and writing became too
obvious.?
ps – I remain “anonymous” because unlike you I am smart enough to !!!
Yes anonymous 1 it’s NWNF. Whatever you want to believe the papers have been served. Where is your PROOF that it is not NWNF? Only a gullible simpleton would post something without proof. So where is YOUR proof.
Anonymous 2 (yes there are lots of them) interesting, so you are saying Ralph was Erica? Erica was using phoney IDs then? No you are not “smart enough” you have no guts.
And that’s your “proof” that it’s NWNF is it Bob? With such searing levels of analysis, it’s not difficult to see how you’ve been hooked in here.
Oh and, PS it’s a fundamental rule of science that it’s only possible to prove what does exist, not what doesn’t — ergo, the burden of proof would be on you in this instance (though I suspect we’ll be waiting a while).
No anonymous, I like others, have been told it’s NWNF. Now who told you it isn’t? Of course as the consensus of opinion is that DA has no money, how is he funding a QC in a very costly court case? Answers on a postcard. As a fundamental rule of science can you prove that the funds to pursue this case do exist?
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Have I got this right?
Halkham Powercourt sold Harlequin ‘investments’ correct?
Halkham Compensation is a new company, with no experience, started 23/4/14 now set up to claim compensation for mis-selling Harlequin?
The very same people who attended the recent Harlequin Trust meetings?
Oh, forgot the are not regulated by the Ministry of Justice…..
Bet they all get a cut, scum.
Has Dave given Phil Spencer his money back yet?
Another victim of the toxic turd?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1169915/Location-Location-Location-star-Phil-Spencers-property-firm-went-bust-owing-500-000.html
Ames the cancer
@The return of sneaky bob
That man is a twat, he gets a special deal, gets paid from ames, sides with the agents, now involved with a bunch of twats that sold it in the first place.
Bob you twat how much of a kick back – ooops sorry donation will you get you cum bucket.
Bob you are scum
I have been considering the vexed question of just where the £400 million went. My best guess, based on the information available, is:
Buying land and building stuff (1) 145,655,000
Losses at Buccament Bay and Blu (2) 35,000,000
Planes (3) 1,000,000
Litigation (4) 10,000,000
Dubai/Thailand properties (5) 2,600,000
Interest payments (6) 40,000,000
(1) From the “Panorama” schedule
(2) Mark Sawkins said BB was running at a loss of US$1 million a month. It has been open since August 2010 – roughly four years or US$48 million. That would give a loss of around £30 million. I think it is reasonable to assume that there has been a loss at Blu seeing as the rates that have been advertised for it are not high – say £5 million.
(3) There are two Piper Chieftans of vintage around 1980. The market price a couple of years ago probably isn’t that much different from what it is now – between US$200,000 and $300,000. Harlequin’s websites say that they were extensively refurbished, and there will have been crew costs, registration fees and hangarage to pay – all up, say £1 million.
(4) The litigation costs for the case against the Irish builder are set out in the papers for the case against Wilkins Kennedy. That’s around £6.2 million. We know there has been other litigation – against the Guardian, Singing Pig, DLA Piper, the libel case and various purchasers trying to get their money back. An overall cost of £10 million is probably reasonable.
(5) This is how much is shown in the initial report by Shipleys.
(6) Many of the non-SIPP purchasers had interest payments paid by Harlequin up until about 18 months ago. The payment of these did not come from HMSSE as there is no amount for interest payments shown in that company’s accounts. The interest payments therefore have to have come from the non-commission cash – the stuff that was supposed to be spent on building things.
All up this comes to a bit over £234 million. Seeing as Harlequin took 50% of sales as commission, that would mean that actual sales were around £470 million – rather a lot more than we have been led to believe.
So there’s no “missing” £50 million as some have suggested. Instead there’s an extra £70 million in sales that need to be explained. I wonder if that’s how much was sold in the USA? I don’t recall any US agent being mentioned in the commission schedule that RL produced.
Why bother, it’s all guess work.
@finger in the air, or are you up Dave arse.
We better ask Bob, the great valuation expert where the cash has gone he is apparently intelligent and values BB at £500,000,0000
So Bob, your proof that the case is NWNF is in fact just that “that’s what you’ve been told”? Thanks for the clarification — explains a lot.
Oh and any confusion about how much money there is is a consequence of the litany of unfiled accounts in the Caribbean and confusion here.
@Location,Location 9.59 and Bankruptcy 10.07.
Bankruptcy, What makes Phil Spencer a victim?
Location. So you’ve put up a video of a man who has a job on tele talking about property…. Is there any evidence he has knowledge of what he talks about? Or is he perhaps a self publicist who’s making a nice living out off inadequate skills.
Phil Spencer opens his presentation by saying he is starting his trip at Merricks resort. Cut to shots of Phil Spencer at locations in an at least part finished resort, including bar, swimming pool and lounge
Around 0.20 to 0.30 Spencer describes the Merricks as 70 acres with FULL PLANNING PERMISSION.
Anyone checking the DD in the Merricks section.can find a document that suggests the planning permission is only outline. And that it will run out pretty soon.
Phil Spencer may know things about planning permission that I can’t understand and if he has, I accept his knowledge.
Until I know, I pose the question “DID PHIL SPENCER ACCEPT PAYMENT FOR FUDGING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN full and outline planning permission?”
He doesn’t look like a victim to me. He looks like a man that okayed misleading cuts in the film that suggested Merricks was far more finished than it is (bar, swimming pool and lounge already built).
If he took money for misleading people, I reckon he’s unsuitable material to be making those property tele programmes.
Thomas Levy,
Don’t forget the huge dividends that were paid personally to the Ames family ( Matt, Dan and Nicola included) in addition to personal loans made to the Ames.
Believe it or not Harlequin Management Services (South East) Limited did actually file some annual accounts. You can get documents Mar 2002—Mar 2011 at Duedil.com.
For damning evidence look under Shareholder Funds, Directors Emoluments, and most interestingly Dividends Payable (£1,460,000 in 2010 and £870k in 2011 just for example) but you can go way back to 2002 when turnover was a mere £55k pre tax profit was a pathetic £2,613. You can add up all the dividend paid out over the years if you like.
Wages for the year FYE Mar 2011 were a staggering £4,472,584 and for FYE Mar 2010 £3,210,040. That’s a lot of money, yet the info available on Duedil informs us that only 20-49 people where employed.
Going further back to the year of the big Launch in July 2009, turnover was £35,384,256, but cost of sales was an eye-watering £27,166,449. Pre-tax profit for FYE 2010 was only £1,784,802 but the directors Carol and Dan allowed Shareholder Funds of £692,478 and Dividends Payable £1,460,000 to be paid out.
Looks like HMSSE didn’t pay their tax too often either.
No wonder BDO LLP resigned in 2013 stating. “We have not been given significant information by the directors to enable us to ascertain whether or not appropriate progress has been made.”
https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2013/04/02/bdo-quits-as-harlequin-property-auditors-says-harlequin-directors-failed-to-provide-information-to-bdo/
And your explanation that it isn’t NWNF? You don’t seem to have one do you. That explains even more. “I don’t agree with what you are saying, but I cannot prove it” you should get a long way with that philosophy.
Just a point on the analysis by TL, arnt you missing a large chunk of money, what about the running costs of Basildon, salaries etc?
My explanation that it isn’t NWNF Bob, is that there is a pretty comprehensive track record here of saying things that turn out to be not entirely true (but appear to still be swallowed by brain dead fools like you) — interest payments have stopped because of a banking error, we’ll build lots of resorts, there’s a brand new marina just over there, finance is just around the corner…I could go on.
@Redefining 5* deceitfulness, @Robert Storey
I have copies of the accounts for HMSSE. The “turnover” is the 15% commission that was taken up-front from the deposits. The dividends and remuneration paid to the Ameses is therefore already accounted for, as are the other overheads for the UK operation.
The cost of sales will mainly be the commissions paid to agents/staff. That was around 10% (i.e. 2/3rds) of the 15% taken by HMSSE.
Phil Spencer, Cash, Towner and others endorsed the Harlequin brand because they are paid to. Simple as that. Also look at the free holidays Ames gave to journalists, travel agents, soap actors and sports teams to stay at BB in return for publicity.
Do I recall that Phil was taken on a trip round the Caribbean with Mike W and his lovely wife Kim of Invest 5 Star? They produced a very nice video from their trip extolling all the good things about investing in Harlequin so I am thinking they must have taken a professional camera team too. I’m also wondering who paid for that jolly holiday?
Mike & Kim W earned millions out of Harlequin. Where are they now?
Thomas Levy – excellent breakdown, thank you.
In all honesty, I don’t know why you’re spending your time doing that. Surely you have more profitable activities to pursue?
The state of the Harlequin mess is irrevocable. It’s laughable, yet cringe worthy to think these amateurs are running around with people’s savings, debt & pensions. “Impotent” springs to mind to describe the state of affair, with all eyes on RL to get the SIPPs out of the mess once and for all
@anon, yes keep up the personal silly comments. Can you explain how DA can afford a top QC when he has no money. If you cannot answer in a civil manor then I suggest you don’t bother.
Redefining 5* deceitfulness
One thing that does really jump out comparing the accounts audited by Wilkins Kennedy to those done by BDO is the level of disclosure, particularly on related party transactions. The BDO accounts mention the Dubai and Thailand properties, for example, but the Wilkins Kennedy ones don’t.
Is there a simple explanation for this beyond the obvious one?
Well Bob, the figures that DA seems to have pulled are listed above, so start with that. Also, as I said before, no one knows what (or how much) is exactly where because they haven’t declared it or filed accounts in the Caribbean for years. They appear to still be finding enough money to chuck you a bit.
ROYGBIV 5.59. I wonder how many of those clapped out old has beens associated with Harlequin were in financial difficulties? As well as Gary Player and Phil Spencer, about both of whom there is gossip of financial difficulties…..What about the football man , in a black shirt (estury twang) and Pat Cash (Oz, so his accent doesn’t count) – any gossip of failing businesses?
Was is just a case of Ames “buying” knowing “famous” people? Only a pathetic, inadequate nonentity like Ames could think that works. Or did he use other people’s money to manipulate the so called “famous”.
Bob & Bob are so far up Ames arse you can see two sets of feet hanging out. What a pair of pathetic excuses for men.
@Nick Name, Ames used our money to make himself feel important after being bankrupt twice and living in a nasty little terrace up to his late 50’s hardly an achievement is it?
Pathetic little dysfunctional man
WELCOME BACK ANGELA…
@Redefining The Ponzi Scheme?
I do indeed, which is why I don’t post here that often. This was simply an intellectual exercise to see if I could find the “missing” £50 million – no more than that.
I agree that this thing is just one huge mess. It is worrying that the authorities have let it run on for so long. It may well inspire others to try to ape the “model”.
@Anon, you just cannot help yourself can you. If he has that sort of spare cash how come Crazier has not got any redress for her clients. What does “chuck you a bit mean” do you have some sort of proof or is that something you have heard? Perhaps it’s something that you have taken on face value like a gullible simpleton. Lol
Angela, who the f**k are you. Do I know you? Then keep your stupid comments to yourself.
Angela redefining trolling.
Calling Ames a “Pathetic little dysfunctional man” seems pretty
spot on to me but it certainly elicited a typical/vicious response from
Robert Storey…I wonder why.
Robert Storey, it’s a free forum,
at one end of the scale, we have bright individuals, capable of writing intelligently written observations regarding the harlequin ponzi scheme, basing there arguments on sound investment principles, ethics, good business practices and referring to facts, where possible, though this is difficult given the lack of transparency.
at the other end of the scale, we have mindless morons, that only have the intelligence to argue with other mindless morons. Let me look for your intelligently written observation,
oh dear.
@Oh dear. so where would you put the comment “Bob & Bob are so far up Ames arse you can see two sets of feet hanging out. What a pair of pathetic excuses for men.” Would that be a comment from a “bright individual capable of writing intelligently written articles” or “mindless moron” Now let me think about that. Yes “Oh dear” just about sums it up doesn’t it?
@Anon, in your pathetic groveling to Erica you did not confirm that Erica was in fact Ralph. Would you care to put the record straight on that?
Robert – I’m more interested in the message, not the messenger.
@Anon let me remind you:
“as if that was not you until you were outed by
Erica (Bless Her Heart)? ”
Ralph
August 14, 2013 at 2:36 pm
FDNRM – you have antagonised and stirred behind a veil of anonymity on this site for too long.
You clearly think that we have no factual information so how about we kill 2 birds with 1 stone?
FDNRM is a 64 year old man by the name of Bob Storey who lives in Nuneaton
Well you need to get the message right then dont you? it would “appear to still be swallowed by brain dead fools like you” Lol
Barbados and St Vincent are currently on the southern edge
of the probability window for Tropical Depression #2. It’ll be a day
or two before the actual path is known.
“@Oh dear. so where would you put the comment “Bob & Bob are so far up Ames arse you can see two sets of feet hanging out. What a pair of pathetic excuses for men”
believe it or not Bob, as one of the many thousands of investors cheated out a substantial amount of money by harlequin, I feel no love towards anyone that openly supports Harlequin or their ponzi scheme.
I find this comment very amusing,
@Angela, Ames is pathetic, common and rude. Does he really think being on hand shaking terms with a few clapped out old has beens off the telly makes him important?
Just take a look at the photos. What an assembly of how not to do it!!! Wrong shirts, wrong ties, badly fitting suits and badly fitting artificial tits.
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/launch/gallery.php
Bob, you drove to RL to show them that you were being chucked a bit. You were quite vocal about it on here — or had you forgotten? I know that you slightly adorably like to call it your ‘return’, but in the absence of any published performance figures, it’s not really that is it? And besides, were it a proper return, everyone would also be getting what they’re contractually entitled to.
I have no idea why he hasn’t given any to Crozier, what a strange thing to say — maybe you should ask him. Interesting that you seem to be suggesting that all things being equal, he should be giving it to her.
Is it true PHIG have entered the claims management business ? It’s tailormade for a twitcher .
I hear the claims are going to a higher authority
Yes, PHAG are in partnership with TailorMade directors and Holkham Compensation.
3 way split.
It’s disgusting these lot still try to line their own pockets after putting people in this position.
It’s lucky some people have more scruples that the aforementioned twats.
@Anon you are now starting to look really stupid. Of course I have not forgotten I drove to RL, not to prove I was “chucked a bit” (your words) but it was part of a legally binding contract. If you cannot accept that then that is your problem. And how do you know that others are not getting what they are entitled to? You don’t, but here’s a clue, try and find Tracy London and what she has to say.
You cannot even get it right who “outed” me on this forum, so there is not much chance of you getting anything else right.
At least your language has improved so there is some hope of you getting your facts correct.
Bob, nobody cares about you, and your silly box of wine fueled rants – shut up you old twit. How is your return now you lap dog.
So Bob, if you’re entitled to get what you presume yourself entitled to as part of a “legally binding contract”, what about those people who are now entitled to full refunds under the terms of similar contracts? Should they be getting them? What about the interest payments that they were promised? Them too? I know that they are not getting them, because they have been forced to seek lawyers to fight their corner — you alluded to Crozier earlier, so of course you know this too (and yes, I know that she personally isn’t a lawyer). It’s interesting that you acknowledge the “legally binding” nature of these things so subjectively.
I can assure you that it is not your gift to pass judgement on who is, or isn’t stupid — not by a long shot (though fortunately, I suspect that anyone reading this will have worked out for themselves who the stupid one was a while ago).
-10:45
Touche’ …my friend touche’
this is my understanding of what happened to erica, she invested in Brazil, the development never even went ahead, but dave decided to keep her deposit and spend it anyway, because this is how dave conducts business.
Because Erica decided to speak out against harlequin and not hide behind anonymous name, she and members of her family were subjected to the most vile and disgusting online bully campaign,. This went far beyond what most decent people view as acceptable behaviour.
are you surprised bob, having witnessed this cruel and disgusting online attacks, that investors, already feeling low, having been cheated out of substantial amounts of money by your hero, choose to remain anonymous.
how would you like members of family bullied and victimized online , Robert storey is just a name ,, I challenge you to reveal your true identity and let people discuss you and members of your family online.
would you want your wife subjected to this online bullying Bob ?
or am I right in thinking you are single,
More bad advice re Harlequin –
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2354405/fos-uncovers-more-bad-harlequin-advice
leading to spike in claims and “It is the chickens coming home to roost in terms of some advisers having arranged some highly questionable investments”
Harlequin is synonymous with bad investment is seems.
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/feature/2355204/whats-behind-the-spike-in-sipp-advice-claims
@oh dear, I suggest you brush up on your history. I had to go to the police because of silent telephone calls. You are so wide of the mark. But why should you bother to get things accurate. Erica received part of her investment in Brazil back. Erica is the one who posted my telephone number on this forum. Saint Erica my arse.
@Angela, if no one cares about me, why have you crawled out of the woodwork and started being a troll on here.
@Anon. I suggest you read your earlier posts regarding “brain dead fool” etc. looks like you give it out but cannot take it eh. is it the stupid one who gets a return. Yep I am the stupid one.
What a disgrace PHIG really is.
Why hasn’t this circus been closed down?
PHIG’s “letters” were a deplorable mix of condescending nonsense & Nazi-level propaganda. Unqualified to give any advice, why has Ladel felt the need to poke his nose into what’s going on?
The victims of this mess are now given even more grief by the same vultures who got them into it, offering “compensation”. Will the regulators not step in and close it down already?
Ladel, is nothing more than a busy body, and frankly is a waste of skin. stuck in the 80’s is so, so apt for him and his silly wig.
SO ….rip off loads of investors , accuse agents of lying to obtain sales , deny all knowledge of everything then get your mates to set up a dodgy claims company without the involvement of the ministry of justice ( just of no importance those silly little regulations ) and get the list of Tailormade ( yup the ones you accused of lying to obtain sales )contact everyone, offer them a claims management service £95 quid plus 15 % commission .
genius bloody genius
RL are planning on having a go at a couple of firms of UK solicitors who were, apparently, giving title reports on Harlequin. Oops.
All,
Repayment Requests
Thank you for sending us your forms with your request for repayment from Harlequin. We will send a further update directly to those investors who have responded to us next week.
Birchall Blackburn Solicitors – Professional Negligence Claim
We have received copies of the “Report on Title” document which a number of investors received prior to their investment into Harlequin. If you instructed Birchall Blackburn (or Grace & Co), then please be in contact. Very simply, we are looking at the accuracy of the document in the context of professional negligence.
If you instructed either of these two solicitors practices, please email gareth.fatchett @ regulatorylegal.co.uk
SIPP Operators – Annual Management Charges / Due Diligence Claim
Thank you for returning your “Yellow Forms”. We intend to issue the Pre Action Protocol Letters in the first week of September 2014. Remember, we can only include you on the Letter of Claim if you have sent us the “Yellow Form”.
Of all the claims, this claim is the most important as it is seeking a resolution to the yearly annual management charges. If you have not received the letter, please email sally.haslam @ regulatorylegal.co.uk .
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Good on RL, they just keep coming and coming.
The day the toxic turd double crossed RL he will regret for many years.
@5* July 22, 6.31. I think old fish bucket with flaps an A10 would envy has a use ….. speaking of which, interested in a trip to Larkhill, Warthogs? An artillery exercise, flattening places displaying execrable taste.
Are you planning on demolishing Stonehenge then Nick?
I see Matt Ames left a roll of bog paper on the side of the bidet in his Essex home Chez Marimba (£700k was it?) prior to being detained at Her Majesty’s pleasure.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html/svr/2705?prop=46450352&sale=31629530&country=england
Maybe, he used to do daddies ‘washing’ or was that cissy boy Dan 😉
Warthogs over Wickford, 2.34. Where’s your pride in culchrlerritidge? The Preseli blues are okay. They even attract grockles, increasing the intellectual and ethical average of the local population.
The thing is Bob, in the absence of published audited accounts — or any operating accounts, in fact — it’s not actually a return, in fact, it’s simply a matter of you giving a load of money to someone, then being given a small percentage of that same money back periodically. Something that you seem to be happy about, which is bewildering.
I note that you chose to ignore the questions about everyone else’s legal entitlements. How telling.
The thing is anonymous you ignor the point regarding Saint Erica. How telling that is. Now I understand you are bewildered, easy to understand that, but why you should be bewildered about me is, let’s say bewildering. Let me give you a little tip, I am a very happy bunny, so don’t worry your little head about me any more. Did you find Tracy London?
anyone that bullies women and their daughters online are disgusting cowards, perhaps if you had a wife, girlfriend or daughter, you would recognise that Robert.
I don’t know anything about Erica Bob, I didn’t write any of that (though for what it’s worth, from what I could see the way that she was treated is an abject disgrace). I’m delighted to see that you are so demonstrably short of meaningful answers though, it shows you up for what you are and demonstrates to anyone looking on the total absurdity of your opinion.
And why on earth should I know who Tracey London is? Is that even a real name?
That you would describe yourself as a “happy bunny” given what’s going on around you confirms what a total imbecile you must be. I’m not worried about you though Bob, In truth I couldn’t give a shit about you — I’m just keen that you are consistently seen to demonstrate the level of subservient denial and utter, utterignorance necessary to blindly stumble on here believing that everything’s okay. You appear to labour under the illusion that by describing things as you allegedly see them, that makes it so — fortunately life doesn’t work like that (certainly not on a public website). I’m fairly confident that a straw poll would prove that you’ve done nothing here but contribute to the ongoing damage being done to the Harlequin brand.
@oh dear, I tried to point you in the right direction before, but you were too lazy to do some research on earlier posts on this site. Perhaps you think disgusting remarks about my mother and mother in law are ok? Now be a good Dear and troll off. Your comments are incorrect and just plain wrong. For your information anything I have posted about Erica is correct and I have never posted about her daughter. Now troll off.
@Anon 6.10. Well my advice to you is stop posting about me. If my comments are so insignificant why do you seem to have a fixation about me. Stalker comes to mind. If you bothered about finding out the truth then Tracy London should be of interest to you. I see no point in carrying on with this, especially as you have resorted to type with your silly silly personal comments. If you don’t give a shit about me then prove it and naff off.
you are so gullible robert, you are like the fish in the garden, throw you some food, and you get into a frenzy, you cant remember why, what is the recall of a fish, oh yes 5 seconds.
you need to read you posts robert, you seem to be on the edge of a nervous breakdown, you seem to think that everyone on this forum is here to stalk you. you are a very sick man robert, you need help. If you are happy with your investment, and think everything is OK, go and enjoy time with your wife, because I worry , any profit you believe you are getting will be short lived, make hay while the sun shines.
Troll troll troll so now I have a wife? Troll on
well robert, you stated you have a mother in law, which kind of indicates you have a wife,?
just to remind you
Perhaps you think disgusting remarks about my mother and mother in law are ok?
Still trolling. You obviously have no knowledge of the uk marriage laws. Troll troll troll lol
robert, you really seem to struggle with understanding english, if you read my post again you will note that I never even suggested you wrote vile comments about erica or her daughter, I just pointed out that after investors witnessed this online assisination, they may be reluctant to reveal their identity. I also never stated that abusing your mother or ‘mother in law’ was OK.
you completely missed the point, then quickly reverted to repeating the word troll and the belief that people are here, not to discuss being cheated out of 400 million, but to stalk you.
you really need help robert,
the’ mother in law’ is the mother of your ‘civil partner’ ?
my original presumption was correct then ?
Who cares
Which parts are “just plain wrong” Bob?
I’m not going anywhere — you expect people to disappear just cos you told them to? Doesn’t work like that Bob. You made a little announcement that you were off a while ago — what happened to that?
Oh and just saying “troll” doesn’t make it so, it just makes you look strange, desperate and totally incapable of rational reason.
If Tracey London is so significant Bob, perhaps you’d like to regale us with verifiable details, rather than just strange oblique references.
shes a mouthpiece for harlequin on tripadvisor
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/members-forums/TracyLondon_UK
“You only have to call Dave Ames for reassurance. We have done so in the past and met up a day later feeling fully reassured”
oh dear 5.58 I disagree. Some women deserve online criticism. consider an image in the grove gallery, that may appeal to freemasons and it’s not 33. Not a million miles from 33, but not actually 33. How many Harlequin purchasers have been impoverished to keep these c*nts in luxury? What’s the old one worth in a port? 10p a shag and 10p a bugger? Get down to Tilbury and start keeping yourself, instead of living a life of luxury off other people’s savings, filthy old fish bucket. I helped pay for your food, you disgusting old specimen. Flaps like barn doors?
Has she got false teeth? Are BJs with false teeth worth anything? My Mrs still has her own, so I don’t know anything about false teeth BJs.
Perhaps Dave can find a niche market for BJs from old hags. He sells just about any old crap, why not BJs with false teeth? Haha.
Damaging the Harlequin brand? Displaying c*nts like these does enough of that you old fool!
@ TracyLondon_UK. So the owner you have so much respect for is the one who failed to buy the land the effing resort is sited on?
See Anon, a bit of effort and it’s amazing what you can find. Now read through the posts to the bit which will show how wrong you are. Go on put a bit of effort in.
@Anon 7.54 still trolling .
Another mouthpiece for harlequin on tripadvisor is sportingman aka Robert Storey.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/members-forums/sportingman
Why not go and spend some time with your husband bob, and stop making a fool of yourself on the forum.
Poster of 8.54 funny I thought( as did Ralph) I lived in nuneaton. Cannot get anything right can you lol
Oh dear, who care (still)
No, not trolling Bob, asking straightforward questions that for some reason you refuse to answer. How, in any respect, is that trolling?
Your point re Tracey London is just that a person using that handle posts on TA? Is that it? Are you serious? Is it so remarkable to find a single other person as deluded as you that it is somehow worthy of note?
Your silly personal comments is trolling. Again you just cannot help yourself. You obviously just cannot read through Tracey’s posts to answer your own comment. Even in your opinion Tracy is deluded. Your bitterness clouds any reasonable response from you. Your not really a very nice person are you.
I read through all of Tracey’s posts, and can’t see that it contributes anything. Taken on face value, it’s simply a single person who claims to feel fine — so of the alleged 4000 investors, that’s two of you (and given that you admit to be getting money in what appears to be a unique arrangement — whilst no one else appears to be — it’s not exactly comparing like for like.
I can read through it Bob, I’m just a bit surprised that you think that’s an observation that has any value.
Not bitterness Bob, just reason. Thinking that it’s fine to spout off about getting a “return” whilst other people are worried about losing their homes because they’re not even getting their loan interest repayments and actively attempting to attract other people into this to risk their money too isn’t the behavious of a very nice person either.
How tiresom, 21st February 2014. Read and learn. So not so unique. Perhaps you can show me where I have “spouted off” about getting a return. You are the one who has brought this up, not me .
That’s it Bob? That’s genuinely what you were alluding to? The fact that one, single other person on the entire internet mentions a quarterly payment (which they haven’t actually received at the time of posting)? Bloody hell, you keep clutching at those straws Bob.
And you have spouted off about the return: You were the one who decided to drive to RL to prove it and made sure everyone knew it, and to mention that you were entitled to it as part of your “legally binding contract” and that you’re a “happy bunny.” It’s true that you used to mention it more — but then as circumstances develop, perhaps that seems inappropriate even to you.
Bob is a loser who does not know that he has lost. It is useless to reason with him. When this is all over, at least we can have a laugh at Bob the butt hole.
You filled in your profile on tripadvisor Bob
Surely you know where you live?
methinks you sound rather desperate (or drunk) in your retorts these days.
But it’s proved you wrong anonymous hasn’t it. Perhaps you should phone up HP and ask how many people who have paid their completion monies are getting a return. Go on do a bit of research rather just post the same cynical crap. I drove to RL to get my £100, see some of us just keep making money while someone like you just keeps losing it. Lol now I suggest you direct your bile somewhere else, I really am not interested any more in your inane rantings. Toodle pip.
yeah like you’ll get the ‘troof’ from Harlequin
Robert,
Can I ask some questions? Doesn’t matter if you don’t want to answer, but I am interested to know why you keep posting under your name to anonymous posters
You may feel offended or insulted by this personal communication, but I’ll ask anyway, as I’d love to work out what triggers your responses:
1. Out of all the things which have happened with Harlequin, how do you feel so confident you’ll receive a return? Money aside, what makes you feel confident in the management of the company, considering everything I will list below?
2. If you’re so confident Harlequin is “right” and everyone on here is a “troll”, can you answer as to how the business is performing & therefore, when your promised returns will start hitting your account?
3. If the Harlequin model is such a good idea, can you determine when & where they will begin the building process again? As the building process is where the real value lies, it would make sense to start it again… so when would you hope that will happen?
4. Do you agree with Bob Ladell & David Ames’ “valuation” of Buccament Bay & other properties as “£500,000,000”?
5. Do you feel confident the Harlequin management can deliver the promised units, considering the circumstances & that Matthew Ames (who admitted under oath that his ponzi scheme was based on Ames Sr’s business model)?
*******
Harlequin’s “bad” list:
* they lied to victims who were having interest paid by them (still got that “banking error” apparently)
* they sold property on land they didn’t own
* they did not fulfil refund requests to victims who were awarded them, even by courts in some cases
* they have fallen out / had disagreements with almost every “contractor” they’ve worked with in the past, the latest being Regulatory Legal
* David Ames has constantly alluded to “finance” coming, although no-one has actually proven its existence
* HMSSE’s administration has shown that approx 50% of the £400m *meant* for building has been flitted away on commissions & other “sales & marketing” expenses. Leaving a paltry sum to build 100 cabanas with
* Harlequin needs $millions to get building proceeding again. The only visible signs of this money coming forward will be
* PHIG are now causing untold complications by offering their own redress, as to compete with the “monopoly” that RL holds. I wouldn’t class “compensation” / “redress” as a “monopoly” – I’d class solicitation as a professional service of which the rewards are directly proportional to the invested time, energy & skill of the solicitor
* Harlequin are now trying to offer the “trust” on their own. Without any legal training.
I define people as trolls who just want to continually post personal comments. It’s not what they say, it’s the way they say it. Just read the posts above, I could list some of the inane comments from “anonymous” but I suggest you do it. I’d rather not comment on your other points/questions although they are well put. Regardless of my thoughts which you have asked for, they will be subject to comments from the trolling section on this forum. However items 1. & 2 are outdated.
Robert
Watch out for that knock out punch.
Still waiting for the knock from Essex plod lol
Bob, Harlequin made Erica ill.
Harlequin has turned you into a silly, embarrassing old man, no wonder your wife is sick of it.
Ames took your money, chucked you a few quid back – you would have been better spending your own money rather than waiting for Ames to throw you a few crumbs, when he deems fit.
You will possible snuff it before you get it all back – more fool you.
Harlequin will go bust then you can start trolling how is was a few nasty investors who asked for their money back.
You stupid irrelevant old fool.
Time for some soothing music just for Dave Ames
And above you have a perfect example of a troll. Is that Erica’s daughter, Steph? That would be the same Erica who posted my e mail address on BFP then. Now my wife is sick of it. You know that do you Steph? Typical troll, let’s just make it up shall we. You stupid irrelevant woman. ( it’s easy this trolling) lol
Bob, yes I do know your wife is sick of it, sick of your obsession defending Ames.
You’re a toothless lap dog of Ames, 35 post on Tripadvisor defending Buccament Bay – and you have been once, on a cruise?
Did you see the pictures on the RL site – No, of course not. To use one of your sayings just bore off toodle pip 😉
Keep on trolling Steph. Why are you even on here? If you are Erica’s daughter then Erica got her money back from Brazil and has been paid off by Crozier. Funny how you did not deny she posted my e mail on here. Selective memory loss perhaps. Bore off and Toodle pip are 2 sayings troll.
Its a free forum bully boy bob.
Yes, hence your saying of bore off. Of course not like Saint Erica’s forum where anyone who disagreed with her was banned with no explanation. That would be bully girl Erica then.
Bob Storey , you are a fecking mushroom, don’t you get it yet “kept in the dark and fed on bullshit “
if you are getting a penny from AMES it would do you good to remember that its someone else’s penny and the second he doesn’t need you more you are flushed away like a used shit wipe
Loving it ha ha lol. (So is my wife Steph) ha ha ha
You are such a hypocrite Bob, you stalked the partners of Jeremy Newman and Martin MacDonald through their social media and posted creepy messages about their whereabouts on BFP implying you would pay them a visit. You also posted the Newmans’ personal details on here. You are one very nasty piece of work Storey.
I think he is mental unwell.
no I think he is fully compos mentis
he is plain nasty
Loving it. Suggest you go back the postings of Ralph and his cohorts. Did I post anything relating to the following.
1 address
2 telephone numbers
3 e mail addresses
4 family names
5 Pictures of my house (although it wasn’t) lol
6 make any malicious telephone calls, when challenged the caller said “it must have been the wife” double lol on that one.
7 make discussing remarks about 91 and 82 year old women
By the way Martin MacDonald doesn’t have a partner.
I would have not the slightest reason for paying them a visit.
Just make it up as you go along. No proof of your accusations
Keep on digging. The hole of your stupidity is getting deeper. Lol
In all honestly Robert you will have to admit that your 12:56 post
has NOTHING to do with the Harlequin Ponzi Scheme.
In all honesty very few posts on here have anything to do with HP, particularly the post of 12.38. What do you think of that one
To be fair Bob, you do appear to be profiting from an investment ‘scheme’ that is damaging thousands of lives, and you do appear to be the only one. So you can’t be surprised that you get the attention that you do. All I will say is what ever is going on will all become clear one day….it always does.
The significant word there Sid is “appear”
Bob, when this whole things goes tits up, and it will. I for one will be pleased you lost your money – you deserve to.
You sick retarded old fool.
Still here Steph. 4 posts and everyone about me. That’s sort of hero worship. Why not ask your mother for my e mail and you can contact me directly? Perhaps a little one to one chat? Go on you know you want to. Of course that is only if you have something sensible to say which on your current rantings would be very surprising.
No reply Bob? You do upset me 😉 The money has gone.
Ames lies – simple. To you, your chum Ingham, everyone.
Nice use of the word “retard” Steph. Shows class that.
Why bother with Bob end of the day he is just an investor like everyone else . he hit lucky and volunteered to do a job on here for a few quid …cant really blame him .
More of a worry is theres only a couple of months left before Shipleys close down the companies .
Steph makes a good deal more sense than you Bob. And she shows a lot more classs too. If you had any credibility Bob, you’d answer the eloquent and legitimate questions above — you don’t, so you won’t.
And as to the question of why bother with him, it’s simple: Bob’s been on here to try and obfuscate matters and distract honest attention from what’s really going on for ages. His whole platform has been to unconditionally deny that there are any issues, and consistently assist in making scapegoats of a whole litany of individuals and companies as crass and feeble excuses for the ongoing woeful failures. He’s attempted to convince people not to take the action that they were perfectly entitled to take thus exposing them to huge unnecessary risks (assuming that anyone’s thick enough to believe him), entirely to serve his own selfish, blinkered, ignorant and desperate ends — and to me, that makes him scum.
Some nice music
And another groovy tune
I don’t think BS Bob was motivated totally by the payments he was receiving. I reckon he held the naive view that he could maintain a good name for the company if he pushed out positive news all the time. So really this was about protecting his investment by posting good news and making light of the halo of crap that followed the company.
Mellow music…
Yes Anon, anyone with your limited vocabulary would think someone who calls someone a retard is class. You two are made for each other. Any way off out tonight so don’t don’t bother pontificating any more with your pearls of wisdom. Yawn
Robert would you care to parse…”any way off out tonight”. It matters not
how vast ones vocabulary is if one can’t make sense.
If you don’t understand the expression any way off out tonight then you are a bit up your own arse mate.
Even I understand that.
Making as much sense as usual, Bob — why would me saying that Steph has more class than you mean that I have a limited vocabulary?
As before, you don’t get to tell anyone else what to do or when to stop doing it — I would agree though that your repeated refusal to actually answer any meaningful questions, and instead to conduct yourself like a five year old is a bit embarrassing, so yes “yawn”.
Again you demonstrate quote how brainless it’s necessary to be to go along with all this unfalteringly.
lets not forget this poor guy. one of the 1000’s Ames had over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDZdfSGxuIA
“Quote” ??
Is that the retard that Steph was referring to?
Anon 6:48 …you make me ashamed of my name.
Why id PHIG recommending a company NOT registered with the MOJ?
Silly me more ‘donations’
Naughty, Naughty Bob and Harlequin
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Report them I say!!!
Thanks for showing Patrick’s video, RL done well, 6.44. As an extra treat, Youtube provide a link to Ames’s 10 minute video of the Harlequin business model.
@RL done well!
Patrick the arrogant twat? He was advised many many times not to touch Harlequin with a bargepole. But he knew better and was determined to be the first person with cerebral palsy to be a property millionaire. Well, he fucked up big time. Just because he’s a crip doesn’t mean he deserves any special favours.
Dear Investors
We hope you are enjoying the summer weather and let’s hope it continues throughout the holiday
period.
We understand that many of you will have seen various updates from Harlequin and others but
now feel that it is important to let you know what PHIG has been doing to try and ensure the
success of all our investments. Over the last year we have had many meetings and discussions
with Harlequin and other 3rd parties and feel that our consistent and persistent approach has had a
significant direct and indirect benefit to all investors and Harlequin.
It is great to relay some of the positives we are now hearing from Harlequin: –
• More investors are now in the process of completing at Buccament Bay Resort;
• Buccament Bay Resort occupancy figures are rising and additional cabanas are being
completed due to visitor demand;
• With the opening of Argyle International airport, an additional 400 rooms will be needed in
St Vincent and the Grenadines; Buccament Bay will provide the majority of the additional
rooms;
• blu, St Lucia numbers are rising and more rooms have been upgraded to cater for travel
agent demand;
• PHIG has observed a general trend away from an aggressive minority wishing to see
Harlequin fail to a more supportive environment for Harlequin to succeed;
• Discussions continue with third party funders and leading hoteliers who are interested in
building out and managing ALL the Harlequin resorts.
The Harlequin Investor Trust
We continue to see the Trust as a mechanism to support Harlequin in gaining necessary finance by
demonstrating unity amongst investors and allowing additional time to develop the resorts without
the massive damage that would be caused by legal action. In return the investor receives some
security to underpin their investment. In addition, Harlequin waives their right to sue investors for
any funds owing.
This is of course a complex arrangement and those of you who attended the recent Investor Trust
Days will have received more detail and had the opportunity to ask questions. If you didn’t manage
to attend these sessions and require further information, please get in touch with us and we will
endeavour to address your concerns.
We do believe the Trust is a sincere offer from Harlequin and is in the best interests of investors.
With Bob Ladell and Jim Baker as the interim Trustees, we believe investors’ interests will be
properly represented.
It is vital for investors to support the Harlequin Investor Trust (HIT), to show unity and allow
Harlequin to sign agreements with the third party funders and hotel management groups without
the threat of legal action from minority parties. We understand that many investors have already
signed the waiver and many more are steadily doing so. If you have not already signed and intend
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Please download the Deed of Waiver from one of the links below and fill in the sections on pages 6
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Please be aware we cannot give you advice.
Compromise
PHIG Members had the foresight to understand the position in April 2013, hence the creation of
PHIG under the strap line of being “United to Succeed” – which we must be.
There is just one way out of these difficulties and that is to attract new money and re-start
construction works in order to obtain the one source of monies large enough to satisfy everyone’s
wants: guest revenues.
We have tested this assertion time and again with our professional advisors and most importantly
by way of discussion with other developers. All are abundantly clear that any developer, and its
investors will only be in a position to make a profit and produce investment returns once the
planned build is delivered, even if late.
As such we are delighted to hear Regulatory Legal are calling for compromise and urge them to
support their words with action.
Members of PHIG have demonstrated their willingness to compromise by joining PHIG and not
seeking legal action against Harlequin. Those Members have understood that hitting out at
Harlequin is only a self- damaging exercise.
• We call upon all other investors to join us and support the resort build out to achieve guest
revenues and equity uplift. Register here http://www.United2Succeed.org.uk – My Account /
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• We call upon Regulatory Legal to unconditionally withdraw their Due Diligence Report,
which we believe is incomplete and likely to mislead together with their advice to investors
that they can depend upon it for investment decisions, as a precursor to a tenable dialogue
with Harlequin and PHIG.
Compensation Options
Much has been said over the last year about taking action to receive compensation for bad advice
from Agents and/or SIPP Companies. We do not in any way profess to be experts in this field.
What we have noted is that many of you feel uneasy about the firms operating in this area and
offering to advise you and help you claim. Given this concern we have sought an organisation that,
we believe, you can feel comfortable with.
Holkham Compensation Ltd has a team of experts who specialise in this area. We have met with
the owners and discussed the issues surrounding our investments. We believe they possess the capability and method to support those Harlequin investors seeking compensation without
damaging the investments of others. If you wish to find out more about compensation, please click
on the link http://www.holkhamcompensation.com or call Holkham directly on 01223 967656.
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Richard Ingham is back I see. One sick man.
Yes a really innocent investor. Not
How do you know that Steph, got a PI to tap his phone now?
@Robert Storey 12.56. Who are the 91 and 82 year old women?
Make sure you look at the youtube video RL done well posted at 6.44. You seem to have quite perverse priorities caring more about old women who’ve enjoyed using other people’s savings than those whose savings have been taken.
I take the view that until ALL the money has been paid back to those wanting it (and I know you’d rather have your cute little bits of whatever Dave throws you) ……until all the money’s paid back, those who’ve been enjoying it had better start earning. I don’t perceive a lot of intellectual talent in the business, so what’s left to rent? The Cs and As.
Just how much can be “clawed-back” from a burger flipper?
@Cripslot 7.17. check the dates please. Sussex Patrick’s video was posted in March 13 and he said he invested 3 years earlier – 2010? Was the business already earmarked as failing as early as that? I wonder how much selling has taken place since the business was identified as failing? And whether it was legitimate?
I don’t seek special treatment for disabled purchasers; I seek fair treatment for ALL purchasers.
Who’s the burger flipper Anon, 7.42? I saw some claws in the grove gallery on a woman who might think she looks younger than she is. Wrists and hands are a dead give-away and if arthritis deformaties are visible, you’ve lost the battle sweetie.
I’ll drive past Patrick the retards house (it’s ok for me to use the word retard) and take a photo. I’m good at that.
@Roygbiv
Have a look at old threads on Propertytribes. He was warned and was fucking rude to those trying to help. The gormless shit deserves what he got.
Red flags have been raised about Harlequin since at least 2008. Anyone who put money into it without doing a bit of basic research is, candidly, a total and utter fuckwit. That they now bleat that the authorities should have saved them from their own greed and/or stupidity is unbelievable.
Robert
What does it cost to employ a bodyguard?
Bob,
What do you think of PHIG and Ames promoting a company that is not authorized?
I doubt you will reply too tricky ?
Keith,
Ames spent over 1 million on security, because he was scared of the Irish builder.
@Cripslot. thanks I’ve found some, but not the old ones. I wonder why there was so much selling after 2008, if red flags were raised then?
@ Keith Freeman – Thats’ easy. you can get a gorilla for a bunch of bananas and a handful of peanuts. More talent costs more.
I wonder why the costs of a body guard have any relevance to this thread. Building holiday resorts is hardly a high risk occupation for violent attacks. Any money spent on body guards sounds like an awful waste of money. Making a nonentity look grand?
@Steph That’s ridiculous. I thought you had to building at least motorway bridges, to be able to give someone concrete overshoes!!!
Hands up everyone who’s ever had a disagreement with a builder? Keep your hands up, if you thought it necessary to employ a bodyguard….. All hands go down. Someone’s been watching too much television…..
Make inferiority complex Ames look inportant lol 😉
@Roygbiv
My reply is stuck in BFP’s moderation queue. I’ll try again.
I think Harlequin’s attack dogs – Rather-F***ed – got them to take down a lot of posts that were critical of the flimflam man. There were – the last time I looked – some comments from the mods giving a feel for what they had said to Patrick and his reaction. A more radical approach was taken to the late and slightly lamented Singing Pig.
Greed is a great motivator. 10% of the full price on a no-recourse basis sounds like a massive incentive to sell. Some of the more “ethical” – or at least not as greedy – agents like Barrisford & Bird got out early. Even Marcus James – Harlequin’s biggest agent – dumped them in 2011. I ‘d guess they saw the writing on the wall and tried to put as much distance between them and Harlequin as possible.
Before 2009 Harlequin were selling to cash/remortgage buyers. After then a large proportion of sales were to SIPPs. That’s about the same time as they fell out with DLA Piper and took on Simon Terry as their in house lawyer. I doubt that’s much of a coincidence. It’s also the same time that the contracts were changed, guaranteed mortgages suddenly became subject to status/finance and the Investor Guidelines were issued.
All up I’d say DLA Piper told Ames he was screwed on his advertising and what he was doing was if not actually criminal as close as you could get without being lifted. So the paperwork got changed and some agents felt a distinct chill in the air.
Bodyguards had nothing to do with Paddy. Ames borrowed from/laundered for the wrong people. When he realised he couldn’t pay and broken kneecaps were a likely result – guess what. He’ll get his and I’d guess he’s hoping that he doesn’t get shimmed in the nick.
Back at home, hope you can understand that Anon.
Is that some sort of implied threat Keith Freeman?
Steph, what do you think about driving past someones house to take a picture of their house and car, an Audi? I doubt you will reply, too embarasing.
Bob, you’ve been asked quite a lot of questions above that you’ve chosen to ignore so why do you think you have a right to expect answers from anyone else to yours?
@Crispi, 10.01. this’ll probably be delayed too – may drop off the bottom of the pile altogether. My jaw doesn’t often make contact with the top surface of my feet and it has just now. I had a passing understanding of some of the background. Words being tightened up for the Sipps people and so on.
What makes my jaw drop to new lows is BORROWING!???.
Why on earth would a man who’s taken in £400 million need to borrow for? And as for LAUNDERING!?? What part of the Harlequin business model does that fall into? Anything to do with one of the cash crops in SVG?
Somebody’s made some rude, snobbish comments about Ames family and cohorts being laughably inept socially – not the sort of people one would want to be seen with……but spending OUR money to protect his grubby little kneecaps. That is the pits of cowardice. Must be difficult to pass himself off as a man ….. Bullies and cowards often go together don’t they? Somebody bullies him and he bullies his customers … ?
Roygbiv – Seems to me that your are coming from all over the place…
Anon you are thick It’s probably just your stupid questions I ignore because it’s you. Can you understand that.
Nice use of the word think Bob. Shows class that.
And you acknowledged that some of the questions above were “well put” and then chose not to answer them.
I’ll ignore the extraordinarily specious logic that you’ve used above, incidentally — I usually do, or we’d be here all day (basically, you don’t make much sense a lot of the time).
Just feeding my fish and it made me think of you. Now do you notice how the word “think” is used in a sentence. You seem to think ( used again in context) and thick ( as applied to you are the same word) Perhaps I should have used the word retard to describe you. Even you cannot get that wrong. Or there again.
Robert
Contact your double partner.
Ah I forgot, that is not possible.
Bob, answer the question – what do you think about PHIG and Harlequin promoting a company that is not regulated by the MOJ?
About signing Trust’s that won’t stand up legally – ever wondered why the Harlequin ‘legal team’ did not attend any meeting, could have been ‘comprimised’
@Roygbiv
Let’s just say that Matt Ames used to run with a very very iffy crowd in the East End. The very dodgy side of the Ironworks fans. Not all their income was legit. Daddy’s blossoming property empire wasn’t subject to any regulation – none of that pesky anti-money laundering reporting rubbish proper estate agents and lawyers have to put up with. Oh no.
Ever wonder whether the “resales” were kosher? Dodgy cash comes in, the unit gets resold, the original purchase price is refunded less a bit of an admin fee and the cash gets transformed into a nice shiny UK bank transfer, fully legitimised.
So nice to know Harlequin won’t sue investors if they sign the trust.
The Harlequin Investor Trust
We continue to see the Trust as a mechanism to support Harlequin in gaining necessary finance by
demonstrating unity amongst investors and allowing additional time to develop the resorts without
the massive damage that would be caused by legal action. In return the investor receives some
security to underpin their investment. In addition, Harlequin waives their right to sue investors for
any funds owing.
Holkham Compensation Ltd has a team of experts who specialise in this area. We have met with
the owners and discussed the issues surrounding our investments. We believe they possess the capability and method to support those Harlequin investors seeking compensation without
damaging the investments of others. If you wish to find out more about compensation, please click
on the link http://www.holkhamcompensation.com or call Holkham directly on 01223 967656.
Only problem is, they are not a law firm, not regulated or authorised by the MOJ.
And Bob Lidell is a trustee – nothing to worry about have we?
Cripslot, 8.09. Please would you extend my eddication. What are Ironworks fans? Probably not afficionados of early industrialisation? Thanks a lot.
Cripslot, July 24, 10.01. Is there a realistic chance someone could double kneecap a short legged person in jail? It shines a new light on short sentences. A few years inside, followed by rest of life outside as a crip. There would be some justice in that, for all those damaged lives.
Could Keith Freeman try and explain what his ramblings are about.
I prefer the option whereby Ames loses his assets, his family, ends up a penniless pauper in a grotty council flat.
Ditto for his dysfunctional family.
Oh and Bob Storey and Bob Ladell discover Ames double crossed them also. 🙂
@Roygbiv
It’s a nickname for West Ham United FC.
@Nick Name
If Ames is placed in the general prison population and isn’t sectioned, I’d guess yes.
The Wilkins Kennedy Defence has arrived. Long to short, it’s calling the Great Visionary a deluded liar. https://anonfiles dot com/file/499b313401460208e7387fd2dc234f5f
Who cares what you think Angela.
How gives a flying Fcuk about you tossers
Anyone using Apple MacBook having trouble downloading the
anonfile?
So page 4 of the submission WK say they are only a firm of “accountants, auditors and tax advisors” yet the MacDonald letter of the 2nd June 2010 he says they will no longer be assist in Planning permission and project finance, liaising with the builder re construction costs (and we all know how that went) and monitoring the construction budget.
Seems to me that WK had a bit of an identity crisis.
I note several Masonic terms in the defense. Harlequin won’t win.
Does anyone remember voting for ‘the intelligent Bob’ as our great savior, or the one trick pony James Baker?
So WK are upset by the language used in the claim. “Insinuating the that the defendant firm was linked to or involved in wrongful conduct” That’s because they were your employees/partner.
The problem being complained of, Mr Storey, is that there are specific rules relating to how allegations of fraud or deceit are pleaded. It rather looks as though the mendacious Welshman may have overstepped the mark.
And I think Harlequin is a dead duck . The W.k defense is two words ” prove it” and Ames can’t .
I wonder how the net will close ……….
I wish I could get to be a “partner” in a top 25 company by being just an accountant. His bi op on the WK site has been pared to the bone.
Phew !!! I’m so relieved Harlequin won’t sue me for the balance according to wiggy Bob – if I sign the trust.
I’m so glad Bob Lidell ( the trustee) is intelligent enough to recommend we put our faith in an untrained, unregulated, and not authorised Claims management Company.(CMC)
They have been going for ages……. well two months. They must have won ermm…….. well err nothing.
I can see the attraction (for agents) because these toothless God fearing CMC said ‘they’ will not sue the agents 😉
Never fear as always Bob has his ‘donations’ to look after.
Why did WK invoice for “assisting with the review of building budgets at BB”
Waits for anonymous to finish work and deny everything.
Where are the invoice copies in the defence document ?
Q.What sort of idiots would recommend a CMC with no authority?
A. Bob & Dave…..daft as a brush.
Come on Bob, defend your bum chum?
Old fish eyes
Invoice is in the submission documents
And plenty of Ammo for the Irish Appeal, oh yes the very same Appeal that Ames has publicly stated is not going ahead.
It’s back to the back seat for the investors, they will see the square root of nought from this. Tis a funny old world.
And this is getting jolly interesting. If you are WK or ICE Group. Pity Ames will be gone by October. No possible CVA now.
Wonder what time the ranting of Anonymous will start tonight. He usually starts about 5.30, unless he gets home early on a Friday. Been nice and civil on here so far. Wonder if he car shares with Angela and steph, same type of linguistic garbage.
Aye you stupid old duffer Bob, you must admit it looking like curtains – sorry silly me banks are just queuing up to give a twice bankrupt, SFO suspect, and insolvent company with no accounts loads of finance.
And BB is worth £500 million yawn….
What option will Ames take to put Harlequin out of its misery?
So the WK document is out at last ….. Funny how it mentions Harlequin hotels and resorts. In the old days, when most Harlequin emails came from Harlequin Propertry, sporadically a few came out from Hotels and resorts. I wonder why Harlequin bothered to sow confusion over a period of some years? Did the purchasers have a relationship with this company, or that company ….?
Hmm … well having trawled through the WK defence, if it is to be taken as fact, it would seem that Ames is a lying bastard.
Well I never.
But we already know that. There’s a 10 minute video, in which Ames claims the land owned at BBay is 100 acres …
And a whiff of perjury in the Irish case.
Well I never.
I will watch with interest to see what becomes of that whiff following judicial scrutiny.
Harlequin hotels and Resorts UK ltd, incorporated May 2009.seems to have acquired the database of Harlequin Property ….. Is one company supposed to give another company its database, without permission?
@Anon – Reasons unknown. Whiff? My guess is more like a stench of corruption.
The latest ungrammatical drivel from Marathon Man
All,
Our client is a grandmother in semi-retirement. She is a nice woman who does not want to think badly of anyone. She is deemed a “bad” person by Harlequin and PHIG because she wants her money back. She is one of the minority who want to “destroy” Harlequin.
Our client is beyond a normal agreement. She signed a refund agreement. The agreement is explicitly clear that she can have her money back. Of course, she has not received her money back and is anxious to know when this could happen.
After all, she settled for a lot less than she invested, just so she could receive some of her money. Our client’s financial security is in part linked to Harlequin. She does not want to blame her agent as she tell us he is a decent person with a family.
Our client cannot sign the Harlequin trust. If she does, she loses her right to a refund (even a reduced refund). Our client does not want to be any trouble. She simply wants Harlequin to honour their agreement.
The legal advice is that she should enforce the agreement. However, our client is very mindful that she is being painted as a “bad” person. This labelling hurts her as much as the lack of financial security she now faces.
PHIG, Harlequin and those investors who have signed up for the proposed trust, need to recognise that their labelling of people as “bad” for wanting what they were promised is the tactic of a bully.
Our client is both offended and hurt by this labelling. However, she is morally strong enough not to let it detract her from what she needs to do.
The conclusion of this update is that unless and until Harlequin accommodate these clients, there will be no progress at all. It does not matter what is said. No financier will touch Harlequin while investors hold live claims. We could fast forward to any of the remaining months in 2014 and finance will continue to be “nearly there”.
The only light at the end of the tunnel is that Harlequin and ourselves are talking to seek a solution. Any more swipes at our clients and our firm for being “bad” will as good as put an end to our efforts in that regard. You cannot negotiate in these circumstances.
Our client is one of many who will stand resolutely behind what they were promised. If this brings Harlequin down, then so be it. If us and our clients are labelled at “bad”, why not behave in such a way ?
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
She should take all her sleeping tablets and die in her sleep the moaning old fucka
I point completely proven by the ever reliable Mr Ingham . Harlequin are a set of dirty bullies with no balls .
They’ve always acted like bullies though. From the very beginning. Very easy when you have millions of pounds worth of investors money to spend on litigation.
Simon Terry was one big threatening bastard when dealing with investors seeking refunds which were contractually due.
Mr and Mrs Ames were like bulldogs (or Staffs) chewing wasps. The biggest, ugliest of them being Mrs Ames (aka the Honey Monster). Mr Ames, in all fairness, is probably more of a Pug.
And finally they have been shown for the pathetic scum they are . Well the lady ( loose term) who didn’t need the banks should put her fat deformed hand in her pocket and pay back
Warthogs 7.37 .Baz here’s an idea you might like to share with the “nice granny” client. Suggest she looks at the people who are calling her bad. If it’s agents and people who’ve joined up to the waiver and trust, suggest she asks herself if the opinions of those without the guts to stand up to Ames really matter. She might like to consider it a badge of honour to be labelled bad by people whose opinion doesn’t really matter. She’d be joining Paul Walton – a man of strength and integrity. I’d rather know one like Paul than 50 who’ve signed the waiver.
Nick
What makes you think I have any ability to share ideas with a client of RL more than you can?
WHAT?? 50 have signed the waiver??
I never imagined there would be that many left so stupid.
I do actually think that the SFO will pounce after Harlequin set up their trust. The two Harlequin emails I have seen desperately coaxing investors to join the trust appeared fraudulently deceptive to me.
But to be honest, I’m not legally qualified, so that’s just an expression of my opinion based on my interpretation of the publications I’ve read on social media (just covering my poor arse in case Harlequin try once again to sue me in California – TWATS).
I’m amazed that Towelling is still allowed to practice…..He must be the kiss of death in any practice. Welcome to our firm; our partners are Messrs Upright, Respectable and Towelling. Upright and Respectable have had competant and blameless careers upholding the law … and errrr Towelling, well he’s the one that presided over a nasty piece of work re-allocating £250 million …. I’m sure you’ll have confidence in our practice ..
Sound of door slamming “No thanks.”
Anon RU welcome back twat lol
Warthogs. I don’t Baz, but from your description, it sounded as if you might have met her. I’ve never met Paul, but I know I’d be damn pleased to. I thought you might at least have had contact on a (nother) forum
I never went away, Storey. How’s the wife?
Nick
The bit from “All” to “Regulatory Legal Solicitors” inclusive is a copy of an email from RL this evening. RL wrote it, including the grammatical errors. I have no idea who their client is.
I’d guess Paul W is one of the main reasons for RL pulling the plug on the new forum. He was making some quite strong claims about Harlequin’s honesty or otherwise. Seeing as RL would be held liable for those comments as the publisher and Paul’s refusal to tone things down, they were left with a choice of banning him or shutting the whole thing.
I like the quote that Ames recognised it was in HP’s interest to delay completion….
How exactly was it in the interests of people who’d taken out loans to make deposits on property?
Wonderful thank you.
Oh my word, Mr Ingham, you really are feeling troubled aren’t you! Hilarious!
Sleep tight, don’t let the Harlequin Ladybirds bite!
(I am truly loving your display of mindless fury, I secretly hope you lay awake for hours, tossing, turning, cursing, consumed by it 😀 )
Night night lovely.
@Anon – Reason Unknown
What would I have to be worried about apart from you half wits falling for the Walton Fatchett comedy duo hook line and sinker?
I sleep without worry or conscience every night!
Life couldn’t be better presently!
Oh, please, please tell us, Mr Ingham, how much have you invested in Harlequin?
I am sorry, I don’t mean to piss myself laughing, just ignore me.
How much?
I have invested less than 5% of my net worth, not enough to worry about!
Some investments win, some investments lose, I take the over all picture!
How much did you invest? Were you a greedy fucker that borrowed to invest then cry to the authorities when your greed got you in a mess or blame others because your greed meant you did no DD
Sorry to hear of your incontinence problem of pant pissing, hopefully it’s something like cancer causing it – now that would be really funny!
Sweet dreams pissy pants!
@Anon – Reason Unknown – aka Pissy Pants!
What do people think of wet pissy pants getting satisfaction from those of you who have lost money??
Depends?? Do you get them on prescription?
The latest drivel from RL must make the poor sops who have invested £240 in RL wonder if the lunatic has taken over the asylum. This from a trained legal brain who said that the war of words would stop. She is a nice woman who wants to destroy Harlequin? Yet she does not think badly of Harlequin? Oh please who writes this crap,
Oh my, Ingham, your language just gets more and more hysterical.
Years and years ago, I got every single penny of my investment back plus £30K legal fees.
But I’m not allowed to talk about it 😀
Night night darling x x
I met Richard Ingham in Warrington and he isn’t what I expected.
I asked him why he was supportive of Hsrlequin if he had lost money, I didn’t get a straight answer, but knew from the conversation he was not supporting them for no reason.
This puzzled me so I did some digging from my contacts at Harlequin, all now departed.
It would appear that Mr Ingham did business with David Ames on Dubai, and he still owes David Ames a significant amount of money from those dealings (money on excess of what Ingham invested on Harlequin) but now refuses to pay until Harlequin is resolved.
So Mr Ingham can you confirm or deny if you owe David Ames a significant sum of money in excess of what you invested and that’s the reason why you are so uncaring whether Harlequin stands or falls???
BFP – I could be wrong but didn’t you ban Ingham 12-18 months ago.
His nastiness has not abated.
So. Surprise surprise, Ingham is not only a foul mouthed bastard, he is also complicit in the Harlequin Ponzi Scheme?
Like I said to you before, Ingham – sleep tight, you sleezy bastard. Why don’t you practice sleeping in a cell.
@ Anonymous
Ingham was banned from here, he isn’t the person who is posting, it’s somebody is using his name.
As for Anon – Reasons Unknown, don’t lie that you got a refund plus £30k just to stop your embarrassment at being conned by Ames, I went through that stage too, but we are on this together don’t act smug and lie to make yourself sound wise.
Richard Ingham hasn’t lost any money. Until (if) HP is liquidated no one has “lost” money. And I would agree Anon RU has fallen into the trap of starting a war with some one using a false ID. This is not RI posting on here.
^^^ BS Bob^^^
we can always spot your posts
Richard,
The enemy is at the gates. You will never complete, nor will Bob PHIG or Bob Storey.
Ask your mate Dave. He will tell you what’s actually happening.
Which post would that be? You don’t think someone is impersonation Anon RU do you?
Only just got up so you are wrong again FID. You really should go and see a doctor about your obsession.
http://www.citywire.co.uk/money/regulator-berates-sipp-firms-over-failings/a762735?re=29970&ea=335004&utm_source=BulkEmail_Money_Weekly&utm_medium=BulkEmail_Money_Weekly&utm_campaign=BulkEmail_Money_Weekly
Anonymous
July 26, 2014 at 8:35 am
BS Bob the word you were looking for is ‘impersonating’.
OK?
@anon 9.10 – professional adviser dot com relates this directly to Harlequin –
“The Financial Ombudsman Service (FOS) has uncovered two more cases where self-invested personal pension (SIPP) investors in troubled unregulated overseas property scheme Harlequin received poor advice.”
in a related story – “Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) chief executive Mark Neale is “increasingly concerned” by the rising number of claims the service is receiving that are linked to advice to move pensions into risky assets held in self invested personal pensions (SIPPS).”
Harlequin continues to be synonymous with bad advice and losses in SIPP investments.
How many people that invest ‘only’ 5% of their wealth live in the suburbs of York in a very average semi? Drive an average car…. more rubbish from the great keyboard warrior.
The day Harlequin falls, and cash investor BS and RI lose their cash I wonder if the will still lick Ames arse?
Your stalking again Steph. I would have thought that a whit Audi, remember the one that you photographed would have been out of your league. Of course one has to ask how anyone who lives in a house worth about £125k could afford to invest in the DR and Brazil. Must be a lot of cash in ironing.
It’s white not whit…..
You have no idea where I live or who I am….. tick tock……
Anyone can rent a car and pretend it’s theirs 😉 most people could afford a lease….
All show.
Of course Steff, but there again you seem to think that mr Ingham is Mr Ingham on here. More fool you for being so gullible.
Bob Lidell, what a bit tough guy he is bulling old ladies!
Ames, not surprised as he did try and sell his mother in laws house – whilst she was living in it!
*Bullying, but you get the gist, what nice guys they are.
Steph, no so much a keyboard warrior, more an ironing board wus
I knew you would correct me Richard,…… such fun. 😉
It’s a very average new build, £65k rented car on the driveway, you don’t own anything else,
Ames sold ‘your’ property in Dubai when you could not raise the deposit…. be sure your sins will find you out.
Walter Mitty Ingham…… always tell it’s you from the dyslexia.
As for the car, and I know the car you refer to, if 2 £65k cars on the drive is average” then let me be average.”
You assume its not the real ingham????…………. but presume its the “real” Steph?????
Average, is relative.
Ingham is claiming his investment of £210k is 5% of his net worth, hilarious – now a millionaire!!!
A millionaire living on a very normal estate with rented cars, that’s the best laugh I’ve had…………… even if it’s not Ingham it’s sooooooooooooo funny.
Walter Mitty irrelevant Ingham. 😉
If it’s the real disgusting Ingham or not does it matter? He is just some women hating bully and a totally irrelevant little man.
@Away with the mother in law, 2.57. Where did the money come from to buy Ames’s mother in law a house? If it came from depositers on Harlequin property, of course it should be sold, to pay people back their deposits…. Why should she have a house to live in, while the depositers are being made homeless.
Talk about damaging the Harlequin brand – giving the old woman a house, while those that peid for it are made homeless.
The return of Richard Ingham, the racist, woman hating, homophobic, vile, horrible, excuse of for a man, who like abusing crippled people.
The old saying bird of a feather flock together could not be more apt.
You share a lot in common with a certain security operative who like blabbing to the press.
Also,a little simple old man who thinks he is actually a successful businessman – again certain parallels can be drawn from this.
Goodness me!!! I almost forgotten, your’re a millionaire .;) who lives on an estate…..
In fairness to Mr Ghent (English Defence League security ) Ms Mills didnt have a leg to stand on
Mr Dring Houses Ingham however is just a pathetic little bully who mortgaged his house to buy into the Harlequin dream .
@And tonight Matthew……….
No, no, no, Mr. Dyslexic Dring Houses only used 5% of his fantasy fund.
I agree with the rest 😉
I don’t think it is Inghan posting on here he always used the name WhatstheFuss, never his real name, he hasn’t been on in here in months as far as I know but as soon as anyone uses vile language it’s him everyone assumes, I think it’s somebody winding up the Erica/ /Steph brigade for fun!
I never assume who anyone is from tneir ID on here.
Going through the WK defence last night it’s apparent that the battle for Ames’s assets will be between Ames, the ICE Group and the Liquidators, there will be nothing left for investors.
It looks like WK want to replay the Irish Case in the UK, this will of course assist the Irish Builder in his appeal.
Sadly for investors there will be nothing left for them.
Ames would have to win the case against WK which is now most doubtful especially if there is any truth to the assertions made in the WK defence.
It must also be noted that it is WK’s insurers who are handling the defence, and their current hard line stance in the wording of the defence indicates that they have no appetitive to settle with Ames.
Ames is relying on the Irish Judgement which now appears to have been given against a backdrop of massive contempt on the part of Ames and his cronies.
Two major points to note, one Sam Commissioning changed his evidence in the UK from that given in Ireland, and two Ames has produced a valuation for Buccament Bay conducted in 2011 that showed the resort worth USD $250 Million so it will be next to near impossible for him to show demonstrable loss in the WK case.
Of course it’s easy to win cases when your legal team including barrister is bent. But that too will become apparent in the ongoing WK action.
Somehow I feel that Ames went a step too far with the litigation against WK.
Good old Angela, trolling away like a good un. In the meantime Angela what do you think about the WK defence submission? Although a suspect it might just be a teeny bit too difficult for you to comprehend. Although I think it is becoming clear what your connection to Steph is now.
Ps – thanks for the Pink Money
Millionaires row (not) bit low rent for millionaires 🙂
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E8466&sortType=1&numberOfPropertiesPerPage=10
@Steph, I know Ames is hardly a straight business man but you stated he sold Inghams Dubai property because he couldn’t afford the deposit. How can that be possible? How could Ames sell something not even a deposit had been paid on.
Secondly I think the the figure you think he has invested is inflated, he told me it was over one hundred thousand but less than £200k and wasn’t a mortgage but wished it was!
Where do you get your facts from because they are not very reliable!!
EB (Enormous Belly), I’m not sure what your trying to prove here, but even if you have the right area for Ingham, there’s a big range of prices. Nothing less than £155k but a lot £500k to £700k, you could buy the whole of Windsor Road for £155k.
What is it with your infatuation with Ingham is? Worry about yourself, stop sitting outside his house taking photos, emailing him, complaining to the police over made up stalking when it’s you.
It’s embarrassing for a 50 year old woman, take you and your morbidly obese daughter to Weightwatchers and do something productive
Steph and Erica just have big bones but I’m sure they have a lovely bubbly personality
What’s richard ingham’s company called?
Erica and Steph just have bad fattitudes
Ingham doesn’t have a company according to the fatty flappy mother and daughter combo!
Leave me out of this.
Looks like BFP had a bit of a clean up last night. Not before time IMO.
Mr. Ingham the bully, does not like it when he is outed living in a very average house, with his chubby wife and rented cars.
Borrowing money to invest is very silly.
Typical bully, like to give it, but can’t take it…
I’m sure if the fatty combo want to they could find lots of information on his company 😉 and customers.
Richard, we seen your wife at our comfort eating club, she said she is not happy about you taking a re mortgage out to invest.
@Robert Storey.
What’s be removed looks the same to me?
I don’t think mine was the last post at 9.45 last night. If I remember rightly there were a lot more using my name as an ID but not from me.
BFP now have a serious problem. You only have to look at another thread on here.
Due to the moronic element on here I will no longer be posting under my real name. I will be just like others on here and post under an anonymous ID. So don’t bother trying to impersonate me any more. You will just have to get your kicks with a copy of playboy now.
http://www.citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/sfo-moves-to-calm-harlequin-investors-over-ongoing-probe/a764088?ref=new-model-adviser-todays-news-list
And from the SFO.
http://www.sfo.gov.uk/our-work/our-cases/case-progress/harlequin-property.aspx
All,
I removed the links as in seems to delay posting.
This is our weekly update. Much has happened this week. Next week could easily be as eventful, if not more.
Lead Decision in SIPP based claims – Good news for Harlequin investors
We are instructed by the majority of investors in the Sustainable Growth Group (“SGG”) matter. SGG was subject to an intervention by the Serious Fraud Office in 2012. A number of parties are subject to criminal charges.
The investment was predominantly SIPP invested. We have run three distinct claims in this matter :-
(a) advisory – where investor received advice to transfer their pension (to re-invest via a SIPP into SGG).
(b) SIPP – where we allege that the SIPP operator did not undertake their duties properly.
(c) where we allege that the trustee did not hold the assets properly.
We have obtained winning judgments in (a) & (b) which will certainly assist us with our Harlequin redress claims. Remember, if you have a SIPP, it would be advisable to run both the suitability and SIPP claim together.
Court Litigation – GLO
The SIPP claim looks to us like it needs to be run via a court based Group Litigation Order (“GLO”). A GLO requires a lead firm of solicitors. Representation will need to be undertaken by either barristers or solicitor advocates. Claims Management Companies are not entitled to undertake “reserved legal activities”. This process is going to be time consuming and expensive. However, we have the commitment of No5 Chambers (barristers) and our own firm to resource this matter on a “No Win / No Fee” basis.
The media reported the SIPP based lead case with SGG. This is exactly what we need in terms of the Harlequin based SIPP claims.
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2357312/lawyer-declares-berkeley-burke-ruling-a-game-changer-for-sipp-providers
Opt In – protect your position
We sent “Yellow Form” to all SIPP investors about 2 weeks ago. This form allows us to add your name (and SIPP details) to the Civil Procedure Rules – Pre Action Protocol Letter of Claim which will be issued in September 2014. If you have a SIPP and do not have our pack, please call our SIPP team on 01384 889900.
Knowledge is Power
We have winning judgments on Harlequin, esoteric investments in SIPP etc, We know what we are looking for in terms of running these claims. Our factual and legal matrix is tight enough to spot both “winning” and “losing” cases.
We know that although our process will take 9-12 months, that will be much quicker than the general Harlequin position. Therefore, we cannot see any reason why an investor would not seek redress.
Agent Claims – “the guaranteed mortgage” promise
The recent Court of Appeal case of ECO3 Capital Limited [2013] EWCA Civ 413 sets out the essential ingredients in the “tort of deceit”. It is well worth a read. Basically, the ingredients are :-
(i) the defendant makes a false representation to the claimant
(ii) the defendant knows or is reckless as to whether the representation is true
(iii) the defendant intends that the claimant should act in reliance upon it.
(iv) the claimant does act in reliance and suffers loss.
In the context of the “Guaranteed Mortgages”, would not every direct investor place reliance on this representation ?
The question is whether the agent knew or was reckless ?
The advantage of the tort of deceit is that it is personal (eg it can go through a company / LLP).
SFO investigation at an end ?
We have received reports from some of our clients that the SFO investigation is at an end. The article below suggests that this is not the case.
Trust Proposal
We continue to discuss with Harlequin ways of making their trust proposal acceptable to the majority of investors. We do not wish to say too much more at this stage as negotiations are at a delicate stage.
From our own perspective, we will have more clarity very shortly as events unfold. We will be issuing our position statement at the end of the week.
Repayment Forms
Thank you for sending the forms into us. We have received a significant number of requests (1500+) Harlequin understand very clearly that they need to make provision for those who wish to be repaid. The negotiations are looking at ways of achieving this so that every investor has an option. Without dealing with all parties, there will be no financing and by implication, no Harlequin.
Wilkins Kennedy Defence
We posted the defence . Looks to us very much like Wilkins Kennedy are going to fight the claim hard. If this runs to trial, we do not see a court date before the end of 2015 / early 2016. Every investor should review the defence because it provides balance to the Harlequin position.
Conclusion
Much is going on in the background. Only ourselves and Harlequin are involved in these discussions. We are all trying to be pragmatic and seek a solution. However, we have to be realistic that there is still much to do.
And last week the SFO were forced to pay a huge compensation amount for the wrongful prosecution of someone. No wonder they are going softly softly.
Roll up roll up…… a new show in town…… Halk Con
Don’t listen to RL, go with PHIG and sign up with a company that has been going for a couple of months, they are unregulated, no history of winning anything – never fear though!!!!!!
They have God on their side, Okay, well a Rev something or other, and it’s a without profits organisation……. but this is the best…….. they ‘promise’ no to sue the agents…. I wonder why agents will ‘recommend them?’
Bob, will receive a donation? We all know he does not take fees – just donations 😉
That was to Vincent Tchenguiz. They settled for £3 million which is a lot less than Mr Tchenguiz was claiming. He’s still going after Grant Thornton who gave the information to the SFO that led to the cock-up.
Curiously Grant Thornton acted for Harlequin in Ireland and have been chummying up to RL in a bid to be appointed liquidators as and when the Harlequin mess finally collapses.
Conflict of interest GT? Of course not.
Fatties Fan Club – you have a similar obsession with food as you do Ingham, is it psychological?
By the way Erica, Steph and John, your well beyond Comfort Eating Club, you need to get in touch with the Sky show, Obese – A year to save my life, then again with a bit of luck it will be full booked.
@Fatties Fan Club, how would you know how Ingham buys his cars, where or what he lives in? I for one don’t care so why do you? To my knowledge he has never said what house he lives in?
He has stated previously he has no mortgage redress because he invested cash, but I am a mortgage investor so are you saying I’m dumb?
Secondly because you fail to wind Ingham up you try to slag his wife off, who you have never even met! Yes Ingham crucifies Erica and Steph, the difference being Mrs Ingham never posts on here, the mother daughter combo are never off this forum!
So suddenly RL can fund on a No win/ no fee basis. Wonder how the cash investors feel about that.
@ Conned,The real Erica and Steph do not post on here,Please do not believe everything you read on here
@ Anonymous, of course it’s those two idiots posting its obvious, it’s Ingham who I don’t think is posting here.
@SFO confirm… Thanks for the update from the SFO stating that their investigation continues. This of course makes Content Investor’s post on 7 July complete rubbish. Either it is another pro-HP troll that tells porkies or s/he was telling the truth and the porkies were being told by someone else.
“Mr. Ames also assured me that the FCA were more than happy with his business model and that they went so far as to suggest that it was not Mr. Ames or his companies that was the target of an FCA investigation but instead it is Wilkins Kennedy.
In addition he has categorically stated that the SFO investigation into him and his companies is now over and the target of the SFO investigation is Wilkins Kennedy and a number of unscrupulous agents including Hawkproperty.”
It’s easy enough to run the number plates to find out if a car leased, it’s also easy to get copies of contracts, that show what type of investor you are.
let’s not forget many people who worked for Harlequin took copies of information prior to leaving, they need a few quid now.
I did hear the Irishman is well connected……..
Mr. Ingham had no problem abusing Mrs Broughton, to the point of hysteria.
However, dare mention Mr & Mrs Average Ingham and borrowed money to invest….. you upset his ego.
As for his rather large wife……
He deserves to get some flack, nasty, nasty man.
To the point of Manchester Police telling her to calm down. Taking a picture of someone’s house and car is seriously freaky. That is serious stalking by the Broughton clan.
So is bullying women and insulting the chosen business venture, that’s seriously devious behavior.
It does explain a lot, If Ingham has borrowed the £100k (or whatever the amount is) Ames has shafted him like all investors, now he feels extra stupid for supporting him with all of his nasty horrible alter ego’s.
What’s it like Dick to finally accept you have backed the wrong horse?
You won’t get a penny back, and that Dick, it makes me very happy.
Karma has a funny old way of working out.
@DGIIYCTI Ingham isn’t a remortgage investor or he would have a claim through RL, he’s a cash investor but what does it matter to anybody?
What does it matter how he affords 2 £65k cars, I don’t, they are expensive to buy or lease either way.
As for wife, I met her at Wembley and she was a small woman only about 5ft tall and average build but pregnant, very nice lady, so in all you don’t really have a clue what your talking about do you?
Carry on making up stories trying to wind somebody up with rubbish by using the excuse he did it to you!
The Broughtons are obsessive stalkers in my opinion and ill
@Karma; it’s well documented by the shit stirrers on here Ingham owes money to Ames from a previous business arrangement in 2004 than what he invested, although not connected Ingham is refusing to pay Ames, that will end in a big fall out, he won’t be supporting Ames then I’m guessing!
Ok… All this petty name calling and slagging matches proves nothing and just entices the Troll’s to do their worst.
I have just one serious question to ask and it would be nice to get an honest answer… If there is one??
After RL posted their due diligence, Ames & Harlequin complained that it was unbalanced and incorrect and Harlequin wanted some time to issue their version of due diligence.
We are now fast approaching August and NOTHING re due diligence has come out of the Harlequin???
Apart from the obvious (Ames lying AGAIN) anyone any ideas as to why???
Ingham is a mortgage investor ,not that it’s so important because he is another shafted idiot . Don’t care if his wife is fat or thin for sure she is a deviant or she wouldn’t be with such a foul individual .
Don’t tell me she bred with him please
How can Ingham owe money to Ames from 2004 when supposidly he bought a property in Dubai which was supposidly bought with HP money?
@ Anonymous, 6.57. And why was HP money used to buy property in Dubai, when it was supposed to be used to construct resorts in Caribbean and S America?
@And tonight Matthew; I know your wrong with your info but it really doesn’t matter if you think all us mortgage investors are idiots that’s fine, I don’t care how Ingham purchased, what car he drives, if he hates the Broughtons, who he’s married to or if he owes Ames more money than he invested.
I guess in your mind calling all us investors who have been scammed gives you some relief from your own problem.
Whathas this to do with the Harlequin scam?
@Roygbiv – Ingham was involved in some (probably) dodgy business in Dubai prior to Harlequin Property, the debts from back then.
I met Ingham at Warrington, big ugly bloke, he was with Walton a big bald bloke – bit less ugly.
He said it was £180,000 he invested.
Ames has something on Ingham from Dubai, my contacts tell me it’s something his wife would not like to find out 😉 nudge nudge wink wink
@ Sala Lady, it’s a pity the family of fat fuckers from Wigan didn’t do the same DD on Harlequin as they have on Ingham, well apart from they haven’t got any information right on him yet… ………
Steph how many shirts would your mother have to was an iron for a £65k car? And one question isn’t having flappy flabby bingo wings like a dinner lady a hindrance when ironing?
Ames ever considered the possibility of allocating Dubai purchasers money to Dubai?
Course not, silly me. If he had, he might have spents SVG deposits in SVG, St Lucia deposits in St Lucia, Dom Rep deposits in Dom Rep…..
That concept would be almost as ridiculous as NOT SPENDING huge amounts on a body guard.
What a pathetic little piece of cowardice. How could anyone even imagine he were a man? The sooner he gets beaten to a pulp, the better.
@Pea’s in a Pod; why would Ingham be with Walton I thought they had opposing views!
@ Through the Keyhole; tell us more, what were Ames and Ingham up to prior to Harlequin,
Also why does Ingham support Ingham he must be doing it for something?
Ingham does not live 100yards away, from York races – it’s a couple of miles from his £250,000 new build house in Goodwood Grove.
Nothing special – so live in a £250k house and have £130k worth of cars wake up Dick – you have been outed
Ingham was with his mate Sean Ghent at Warrington, a pair of big threatening thugs, both racist nasty nasty, pieces of work, best avoided.
@ Ingham the Idiot, I don’t recall Ingham ever commenting on where he lives or what he has or hasn’t had, not that it’s anyone’s business on here.
I think you need to realise people post under different id’s to provoke
I have no idea, but they were there over a year ago. Maybe he was getting info for Ames or they just met up – don’t trust either of them. They were also talking to that big bloke Shaun Gent? The day HMSSE went bust
What is it that’s in the WK defence that has Ames and his mates in such a tizzy. It must be something very big. 😉 😉 🙂 🙂
@ Ingham the Idiot; if Inghams house is worth £250k then I doubt he’s a £210k re-morgage investor, looks like more duff info
@Roygbv, notice the word “supposidly” in there?
I have it on “good” authority that Richard Ingham does not post on this site anymore” he was banned by the moderators some time ago and does not even read this site anymore. Unfortunately the fake ID of Richard Ingham was swallowed by the trolls on here. RI has never posted on here under his own Name. I would suggest that the stupid tit for tat postings stop, they are all based on lies just to rile gullible readers of this thread. If you don’t believe me that’s your problem, but don’t reply to this post.
@Roygbiv
Harlequin only offered rentals in Dubai, not properties you could buy. http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/rentals/rentals/dubai/dubai.php
@Anonymous 8:03pm if you speak to Ingham then ask him why the police arrested him at 10am last Saturday morning!
And I know that’s true because Dave Ames let it slip at Harlequin!
That’s the stuff bought with the £5 million Ames ‘borrowed’ from HMSSE.
Which part of “don’t reply to this post” is difficult to understand?
@Warthogs, your not up to date, Harlequin wasn’t in existence when Ames and Ingham were up to their tricks Ames was a lowly agent for IFA, Dubai Holdings and Emaaar. This is pre-Harlequin, nobody seems to have know Ames for as long as Ingham they are vey close which is odd because Ingham is more than 20 years his junior.
@Sala lady
Aren’t they just!
I don’t suppose someone like Ingham can have many friends. 😉
He seems to love to be despised full stop, he was banned from the Erica forum, banned by BFP and banned by RL – sort of says a lot for the type of man he is.
How can he complain when he gets found out? After all the nasty things he said, as ‘himself’ on other forums about, well anybody…… excluding his best mate Ames of course!!!
How can he complain if he has been banned doh
@Sala Lady; when I met him in Warrington he seemed a decent bloke, what has he been found out about?
quote “I have it on “good” authority that Richard Ingham does not post on this site anymore” he was banned by the moderators some time ago and does not even read this site anymore”.
LOL “I doubt even richard’s thin, short wife knows what sites he reads”.
If you don’t believe me that’s your problem, but don’t reply to this post.
LOL, if you don’t want people to reply to a comment, you may want to rethink your posting on a public forum strategy, you could try instructing them whether then can reply or not,….. good luck with that bob
The post was put up in good faith to try and clarify the position. To try and stop the very stupid tit for tat comments no one is trying to stop anyone posting anything, just be aware that RI does not post on this site, read the comments or answer them.
Born Yesterday, I think you hope Ingham reads this shite because it gives you some false comfort that your winding him up but you need to realise its a troll posting so you fill the forum with distracting rubbish.
BFP placed a moderators ban on his IP months ago so even if he reads he can’t post.
Whats his wife got to do with anything? I don’t understand
@ Funny that. I don’t suppose they’re mad about the choice of the word scheme. Nor do I imagine they like reference to the basis on which funds were received, applied and what happened to the funds. I expect they dislike reference to questions about the legitimacy of the scheme.
All of which is why I enjoy mentioning it on this blog.
Thanks Warthogs. Any money intended for the Caribbean spent in the Gulf?
@Roygbiv
The accounts for the UK company show around £5million being spent on overseas properties via Harlequin Property (Caribbean) Ltd. That’s the Dubai properties Dave bought with purchasers’ monies, money that should have been spent on building in the Caribbean.
Thanks Warthogs. Yeah. That’s the money Shitleys can only find a tiny part of, isn’t it. Pathetically incompetant all of them and still allowing Harlequin to continue….
And where did / does ingham work Dubai….. no such thing as a coincidence.
The illiterate Ingham, posting to defend himself – priceless. 😉
Born Yesterday, I think you hope Ingham reads this shite because it gives you some false comfort that your winding him up but you need to realise its a troll posting so you fill the forum with distracting rubbish.
BFP placed a moderators ban on his IP months ago so even if he reads he can’t post.
You must be of very low intelligence and extremely gullible to believe an ip ban would stop Ingham from posting. Ingham obviously got a real kick out of abusing people, particularly women online, Wouldnt be surprised if ingham himself is replying.
Just to explain how ingham can post, even if his ip is banned – for those completely lacking imagination :, use a friends / companies / public computer , a mobile device, or buy another computer, as ingham likes to boast, he is not short of cash. And I am sure the more intelligent on the forum could come up with more ways ingham could continue his online bully campaign.
So born yesterday, why does this thread include Whatsthefuss, which was always RI ID and then started posting as Richard Ingham? Why would he use his own name to start an abuse campaign? A bit like you coming out and being identified.
Does it matter if Ingham posts? Or if somebody posts in his name? Warthogs over Wickford used to be Basildon Bomber. At least he said he was going to change hid ID to WoW. Perhaps WoW is entirely different from Baz and I can’t see how it matters.
I have never had so much fun using a fake ID, it certainly livened the forum up for the weekend, but, I’m afraid I am not the genuine Richard Ingham.
Ingham doesn’t abuse women just Steph and Erica Broughton who deserve it as they dish plenty out, plus are you sure they are women?
Ericas facial hair and Adams Apple give me serious concerns.
I have the identity of ‘Mr Ingham’, it’s none other than Dan Daligan.
Remember the sales director of Harlequin who said Fatchett was not a real solicitor? Then Ames paid for the damages?
The Ingham / Erica resurrection was only to deflect interest from the WK defense.
That said, I have been told things are not going at all well regarding the Ames trust and the finance is non existent.
Something else seems to have people rattled in the bunker? Whatever it is my contacts would not/ could not say.
Mrs. Ames is popping so many pills she rattles.
Someone up thread posted a link to the WK defence but the link does not work. Please could you post it again so we can all read it. Thank you in anticipation.
Looks like the Wigan fatties and their fatty fans made an embarrassment of themselves again this weekend attacking Richard Ingham constantly – fooled by an ID Troll, who wanted to detract from WK over the weekend, maybe one day the ton of them may get something right.
Not that it matters as Ingham won’t have read it.
Like BS stated last night (Anonymously) when Ingham was banned from replying on the forum he saw no point reading it, I guess the moderator ban worked in that respect.
Can we get back on topic?
@WK defence papers
Try this
https://anonfiles.com/file/499b313401460208e7387fd2dc234f5f
Thank you WoW
@Leakey squeaky (ex) mole in the bunker, but still have contacts; out of pure self interest, what happened in Dubai with Dave Ames and Richard Ingham that makes them so close to each other?
I can’t believe Richard supports him for fun, I think he goads the Broughtons and Crozier for fun, but what’s the big secret from way back?
Somebody on here yesterday said Inghams wife doesn’t know and he wouldn’t want her to either!
Is it time to get funky ?
Yes go on Leakey squeaky, start another rumour for the bored simpletons sitting at home with nothing to do.if you not know just make something up. Should keep a few people amused for a few days.
Oh and if you are trying to blame your ex work colleague Dan, try and remember is Dalligan. Biggest lol all day.
Stifle it Robert
How odd, Born Yesterday was telling us all how this was a forum open to anyone now you are suggesting censorship. Make your mind up.
Yeah, yeah Ingham ever reads this, he has loads of people that just happen to read this and jump to the defense of him and his chubby other half 😉 who live on a new build estate…. worth about £250k…… sorry millionaires row.
What a load of waffle…… best laff ( as Ingham spells it) I had all day.
Ps – thanks for the pink pound
@Sala Lady; you need to grow up as from what I know you haven’t got too many pennies to deal with, live in a grubby hole and your rather thick around the middle, not to mention in your head.
Why don’t you go and meet up with your fellow ugly fatties, eat yourselves to death and make up some more rubbish to fill this forum with to distract us from what this forum is about?
is Dave finally facing his Waterloo ?
@Anonymous; Maybe Sala Lady should change her name to Salad Dodger, you would need long arms to get around the Sala(d) Dodger, big belly and droopy tits but thinks she’s special, her husbands the same obviously partial to the Asian Cuisine.
I want to know why she has an obsession with Mr & Mrs Ingham who she has never met in her life, thinks shes well and truly caught the bug from her fellow fatty friends!
Yes Salad lady, about as interesting as a limp lettuce leaf.
Sala(d) Dodger Lady, when will you get it in your head Ingham cannot post on here and your trying to wind and insult somebody that cannot use the forum, stop clogging the forum up, its not just your waistline that’s thick in my opinion!
Maybe there are no mirrors in Sala(d) Dodger Lady’s council house?
We will have to wait and see her reply when she get home from her minimum wage job for an update
Well Mr. Ingham, I did not borrow money to invest, i don’t claim to have wealth like you….. 😉
What it is the saying ‘fur coat no nickers?”
Not the sort of house I would think someone who has 2 x £65k cars outside would live?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.94541,-1.108094,3a,90y,255h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s23opljY8nmheucPEX-DLag!2e0!6m1!1e1
I’m perusing my way through the WK defence papers.
£6 Million spent by Harlequin on prosecuting the Irish builder case to win only £600k!
Who were the lucky lawyers on that one?
That’s where more of your money went investors.
@Sala(d) Dodger Lady; your a special kind of stupid because you keep getting told that Ingham is banned from this site and he’s a direct investor, I can’t see why even somebody as dumb as you can’t grasp that.
How much money have you lost Salad Dodger?
Also if you had kept up to speed with things you would know that the person you are obsessed with has 2 offices in his business and stays in York infrequent and his main residence is in the NW, Ingham isn’t a Yorkshireman you fool but you would know that if you had ever spoken to him.
Seems like this time Ames and his legal cronies will come a cropper. Good man Simon Terry you day is finally coming. 😉 as They Say it looks like we got him this time. 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
What a stupid prick Ames is after all, lol. He has just signed his own death warrant in the Wilkins Kennedy action, and I doubt anyone will shed a tear for him or his little bunch of cronies. See you soon you idiot lol.
@Keep up with the jones – who says Ingham has 2 expensive cars because it was him who said it because he can’t post!
You must be one of those fat fuckers from Wigan with an obsession like this, nobody else can have one as bad!
What’s this obsession and how does it comfort you in coping with the money you lost? I think you need mental help with your obsessive tendencies which manifest in Ingham and pork pies!
The relevance to the WK lawyers how much DA spent on the Irish case is ? What exactly?
I can give you some information you may already know. The Ames family The Dalligan family and the Stenning family are all inbreds of each other. They all emigrate from a dirty old gipsy camp that used to be plotted up somewhere in basildon.
I wonder if they will have each others backs when they are all in court?
Richard, you are embarrassing yourself, I must admit if I was playing the big hot shot wealthy tycoon – that house is pretty low rent 😉
@NWWW, I must admit the fat jabbas the Broughtons could never be regarded as whippets, more like warthogs.
Why are you boring us all talking to somebody who doesn’t come on here to read your wind ups? Why is it so difficult to realise Ingham is banned just like you banned him and RL banned him.
Why don’t you post some pictures of his children playing outside the house that your perverted husband took? Might even give PHiG Bob a thrill!
Erica/ Steph can you send us a picture of your house please? Have you had ramps fitted? Extra wide doors? XXXL bath? Reinforced beds? Had the floors strengthened? Must be a massive dwelling to fit a ton and a half of Broughton in it!
Also can you tell us why you joined the Crozier action when you couldn’t afford the fees and costs of just £7k and Crozier paid them on your behalf to get rid of you because your mental! Ha ha ha tooooo funny!
Nobody is interested in your vendetta!
The quality of the Harlequin team is only surpassed by the quality of it’s supporters.
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Where are the Harlequin supporters? I haven’t seen any on here in ages!
I wonder if Gareth Fatchett will get his freezing order tomorrow?
Its amazing how this could be the center of an international property empire. Is there a reason for the wire mesh in front of the window?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/109+Windsor+Rd,+Ashton-in-Makerfield,+Wigan+WN4+9ET/@53.482136,-2.630886,3a,90y,274h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scFjeKb8Z4kZKHAIY97yDnQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x487b0457a0eff90f:0x357f3fb311763d09!6m1!1e1
Anon – 7.46pm
RL are not applying for a freezer tomorrow.
@ICSWBWBBTT; the steel grilles were installed to keep the locals from the windows as they were peering in at all hours watching the mother and daughter walrus show, after fish was thrown to them it was decided enought was enough and precautions were taken.
I see that John has invested in a 2t van to enable him to transport his wife and daughter to and from the pie shop.
The little scruffy house must be like a tardis inside, how do 3 morbidly obese people fit in there? Do they grease the door frames? Have they taken walls down?
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/ashton-in-makerfield/windsor-road/
Inghams cars are worth more than the Broughton fat fuckers house, now that’s low rent!
I think they have been outed, Erica hasn’t a pot to piss in but criticises what others do or don’t have.
More to spend on pies and cakes?
Looks like a place on the Gazza strip. Oh don’t tell me they invested there as well!
I don’t think the trio of fat bastards like to garden much really!
Imagine the state of Erica and Stephs bush!
Number of properties for rent in Windsor Road, 64!! It’s the centre of a social housing estate. Does White Dee live there?
I think it’s more to do with some of the existing residents that nobody wants to move there, would you want to move in the same street as a family of stalkers, who are obsessive and think they are being watched and strip your local grocery store bare like a plague of locusts?
Richard, fat people can diet, poor people can get rich, but you and your ugly wife, will always be ugly.
And keeping up with the Jones – Mr and Mrs Average wanting to be just like Dave.
Richard rent a car 😉
The English are a tribal lot, (in the worst way) It almost wants me to cheer for the top 2%. The Caribbean has been ruin by the invention of the
Jumbo Jet.
Erica you need to stop your obsession with food and Ingham.
You call people dyslexic but can’t spell “irrelevant”, you call people chubby when you and your family are morbidly obese, you criticise a luxury car whilst driving a van, you call people ugly without ever having met them but your daughter has her picture in the local paper and couldn’t make the effort to comb her hair, you live in a scruffy cheap house but criticise others.
You need to stop making an embarrassment, you repeatedly do it and are doing it again, have some respect for yourself please.
Erica, you state fat people can diet, well you and your family clearly can’t diet because you are all seriously obese.
I saw you all at the Warrington meeting when John tried to attack Dave Ames, and all of you a truly disgusting site, fat, greasy, sweaty, dirty looking, ugly (because all your faces are hanging in fat), just a bunch of slobs.
Meanwhile, whilst Richard and Erica fallout – where is Dave Ames? What’s so important he can’t speak to investors?
Cos he is speaking to Fatchett today
But Richard, some people may be happy where they live no matter how humble it appears. It’s called contentment.
However, to pretend you are a cash investor, and live in a big fancy house, and have expensive cars, Do you have poor self worth?
Richard, you are deluded, it’s really a shame 😉
Really, that house is nothing special is it? Some of York is nice but the area you live in is regarded as low rent.
These comments have really got you all upset, typical bully boy, you like to give it but can’t take it.
@Erica; Your not content because you have tried to lose weight and failed, you tried to get rich through Harlequin and have failed, so now your the lowest of the low taking in peoples dirty laundry.
You seem obsessed at whether a fellow investor owns or leases cars, whether he is a cash or mortgage, what value their home is or isn’t worth, investor why? The fact is you couldn’t afford to lease cars and your house is of such low worth you couldn’t raise the sort of capital we are talking here.
To my Ingham hasn’t even posted on here because he is unable to, but you keep answering a troll and clogging the forum, its very boring and you were warned about this 12 months ago by the police, your getting as ill as you were before.
Now be a nice jolly fatty and get some vanish on those skidmarks in the undies that you are scrubbing for somebody of higher social standing today.
Ashton in Makerfield or Central York?
Hmmm, let me see, tough choice?
Don’t think so!
@Erica; Is Richard Ingham a Private Investigator?
Richard, we know it’s you 😉
Erica, I have explained many times now that I am not the real Richard Ingham, I did it to wind you up.
I did not relaid when I did it you were so obsessed and scarred by him.
Rather than continue boring us with your rants why don’t you email Richard directly, I understand you have his email from Paul Walton, that way you will get him to read your comments and we don’t have to tolerate this childish behavior?
No, because I know he reads this and replies.
If someone is “contented” with their life, why would they want to invest in Brazil and the DR? If thats contented then I’m glad I’m not.
Posting as Whatthefuss which is obviously a fake ID is just plain moronic in the context of the posts on here. Why clog up the forum with such crap. AntibHP trolling at its worst.
I’m pleased to announce we have actually have applied for our MOJ authorisation.
Meanwhile, please send your £95 upfront fee to us (so we can pay off PHIG and Tailormade – who want a cut)
Just take notice from your agent who got you in this mess and is having a second bite of the Halkham pie, even though they have yet to win anything.
Also, did I mention Halkham have put it in writing to agents we won’t sue them……
Sounds fine and dandy to me!!
Well Mr Burns, ex TM director needs to pay for the attached somehow.
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/31572622
Surely no one will fall for this Halkham Pie. Why would anyone give up the right to sue, when they have lost their savings? Sounds daft to me. It’s time these people were out of their houses.
Amazing but some investors still believe their agents, so if their agent tells them its a good thing to go with an unregulated company (who give them a few quid) for the referral – they may do it.
That is of course, if they haven’t already been reported to the relevant authorities.
Tailormade spoken to me and said they want to offer Halkham as an alternative and PHIG fully endorse them.
What do you mean they are unregulated, I was under the impression they were a law firm?
Avoid Halkham like the plague.
If they are “unregulated”, they are EXACTLY the same as Harlequin – a group of amateurs who don’t know what they’re doing.
Why would someone so positively “for” Harlequin investors (PHIG) now be offering a way to achieve redress? Doesn’t that suggest the Harlequin model has at LEAST not delivered as it promised, at most FAILED outright?
Anyone who uses a firm of unregulated, untrained, unmanaged cowboys will only have another headache to deal with. Do yourselves a favour and only work with professionals who have a track record of doing exemplary work in the industry.
Harlequin’s downfall was that the people running it had the wrong intentions (rather spending on their own gains than the building of resorts). The glossy brochures, “launch parties”, rhetoric, etc, all painted the picture of a successful company; little did we know it was a mask for the charade that was being perpetuated behind the scenes.
I see no difference with this next phase – do yourselves a favour and stay away from any company who does not have a track record in the industrsty.
** And yes, you bet I’m biased TOWARDS RL. They’ve done more for me in the past 2 months than Harlequin did for 4 years.
You are obviously not a cash investor. Good for you “Jack”
From another Trip Advisor review..read and weep.
“When we asked for the location of the rest rooms it transpired that the water supply had packed up that morning. None of the lavatories could be flushed nor could sinks, showers or hand basins be used for even the most basic necessities. We resorted, as did others, to rinsing our hands in the swimming pools.”
Its called Redefining Luxury in the Caribbean.
Mr Ames seems a little down recently, my remaining contact in the bunker tells me.
Something is driving him to reach for Carols happy pills?
Any ideas?
Yes he is getting depressed about all the bullshit and lies spouted by people who think they are on the inside. Ring any bells.
Looks like the fat fucker duo in Wigan have finally stopped boring us with made up rubbish about Ingham and taken the good advice to contact him directly by email, at least they may get a reply to their obsessive rantings that way too!
Although I think Ingham is a nasty piece of work even I feel sorry for the direct line of bullshit he must be receiving from Erica and Steph
HOTDODGE on Trip Advisor wrote a 5 star report of BB, stayed in July 2014, and states that Indigo Dive is gone! If this is true, thats a real bad knock for the Resort , as Indigo is one of their featured attractions.
Don’t forget the rotten lettuce that is Sala(d) lady. Looks like she has seen the light at last
From the recent reviews over on TA, in no particular order:
‘…there certainly is evidence of some cost cutting and cutbacks.’
…the restaurant is plagued with flies which makes it quite unpleasant.’
‘…Indigo Dive who provided the water sports last year have now gone!’ [I don’t believe this to be true].
‘The food service at the Bay restaurant has been significantly reduced.’
‘if you are coming for the water sports check they [are] on.’
‘we experienced a few problems on the holiday,’
‘The only problem we encountered was the Mosquitos… We had to have our room sprayed whilst at dinner as one night we were all eaten alive.’
‘…intermittent hot water,’
‘there were no coffee pods in the room for the Lavazza coffee machine – only Nescafé instant coffee sachets.’
‘We got the distinct impression that there was a bit of cost cutting and penny pinching going on,’
‘the resort was less than half full. ‘
‘we did not have any hot water from the shower for the whole week it was luke warm at best.’
‘there was very little entertainment in the evenings,’
‘There were a few disappointments which we raised with the manager such as the water activities all closing down 5 days into our holiday with a poor explanation,’
Not according to the indigo dive web site.
or their Facebook
I wonder if shutting up shop was anything to do with not getting paid by HP?
Whatever, they are a very good company and I recommend them. They also provide diving for young children (with mini tanks), which is a great way to introduce kids to the sea life environment.
Penny pinching and cost cutting. No hot water for the whole holiday. Sachets of Nescaff. Somebody else mentioned chicken nuggets!!!
Sad part is that the lack of hot water has been going on since the place opened.
For all that he’s good at spending other people’s money, Ames doesn’t really know what 5* is. So how is he ever going to be able to deliver it?
Rent a car Richard, the last word in redefining keep up with the Jones in Yorkshire.
Oh no sorry his business is worth millions LOL
I have 2 cars on the drive worth £65k each…..
And a property down south…..
And a imaginary place in Dubai on the Golden mile….
I paid 100’s of thousands cash… to invest in Harlequin.
I know Dave.
Richard, you are a very odd individual.
I knew it was too good to be true that the fat slob mother and daughter combo of Stephanie and Erica had seen sense and was keeping off the forum and was persuing her obsession of a fellow investor directly.
Sadly it appears now this is not the case and the 12 hour break was due to their grazing time on pastries and deep fried food and could not be disturbed.
Erica/ Steph contact Richard Ingham directly by email, then he will read it and you may even get a reply but he won’t read it here and can’t reply.
Why will you not email him directly?
The reason that Erica is obsessively stalking me is of pure jealousy.
Not only is she jealous of what I have, and she can only dream, she is jealous because I have been refunded all but a small amount of cash that I invested in Harlequin.
All I am now owed is £10k which it is why it’s such a small percentage of my total assets now!
Erica should be pleased a cash investor like me who invested hundreds of thousands in cash is almost out of this scenario!
Jealousy and obesity are a disease, so take note Erica and Stephanie!
Everything in RL’s DD report was wrong, yet the lack of a rebuttal speaks volumes. Where are Dave’s corrections? The ones that say we didn’t just nick the money, the companies aren’t insolvent, and the SFO and Police aren’t knocking at our door.
Gonna have to have another cupa Joe and wait for that one.
If trip advisor is to be believed, it’ll be a Nescafe instant sachet in a paper cup of Luke warm water. 5 star all the way, Essex style! (would you like boxed milk with that Guv?)
They are gathering data,
Ames can’t do much, with freezing order, no finance, and no money coming in.
Lets just sit back and watch Harlequin die a long lingering death.
Well there is money coming in from the twits who think they are completing on units ……
The escrow account at Barclays …..what no escrow ?……they’ve lied again
Nikki Crozier lies – company house documents just posted say she is a lawyer , when did she qualify?
Someone asked about Dubai and ‘Dick’ Ingham, let’s just say he had a Bill Clinton moment, but it wasn’t with a woman.
Now, imagine if someone who is nasty got hold of the footage……
From Islandangel69, stayed BB July 2014..Trip Advisor review..”The only thing I did not like is there was no water sports, if I was to be there for a longer stay I think I would of gotten bored”
This is the second review this week that mentions no water sports…Is Indigo Dive still there, or just on vacation?
They have not been paid so they left.
David Ames, today on the conference call quoted ‘That he has the finance in place to build out not just Buccament Bay, but all resorts resorts, when pushed he became confused and attempted to change the subject.
He they continued about the same old waffle we have all listened to before, same old same old.
He would be better leaving his solicitors to speak for him, strange why are they giving him the cold shoulder?
Just how long can this little man continue telling barefaced lies?
He won’t for much longer 😉
@ Nowt wrong with whippets, July 28, 11.10. One to warm the cockles…..
I never go the opportunity to join the conference calls as I never had my calls or emails returned by Harlequin. I would be interested in hearing what was said if anyone recorded it and could post a link. Or perhaps if another call is offered someone could record it? I don’t hold out much hope of receiving a invite as I tend to ask awkward questions!
If Dave owes money to some roughish people, how long does anyone think they will wait, before using physical force to collect it?
@ White Horse
Sorry. Can’t record for you or listen. My hearing difficulties make this impossible.
@Redefining Ruff Trade
He may need a body guard, or was that just because he read somewhere that’s what successful businessmen do. 😉
@rrt. You are way behind on the extremely persuasive (don’t take no for an answer we know which school your grand kids go to) debt collectors. They have collected and gone years ago. Hence the security Ames needs.
What ever happened to the silver-tongued Chris Jones of Positive Plus?
The man whose mission statement was “He works with people who share a common cause; working towards financial freedom by creating a true residual incomestreams… [sic]”
This from one of his old websites
“So why is Harlequin different to other developers?”
‘Firstly, the company has NO debt secured against land it owns worldwide. With over a billion dollars of land owned puts the company in an extremely strong position and by choosing to work with private investors rather than with banks and lending institutions, Harlequin have not been affected by the global recession. In fact, Harlequin are employing more people, increasing their construction activities than ever before.’
Chris J claims he has personally invested in HP and further says investing in Harlequin was a ‘no brainer’.
But this link to his YouTube has been set to private.
Yeah right.
You can read more ol’ shite from him who knows best on here too…
http://www.4networking.biz/Members/Details/31344
I don’t know who told everybody about me playing the rusty trombone with a Paki rent boy in Dubai, I gave him an anal cream pie and he returned the favour, I then got my arsehole licked clean by a crippled dwarf.
What’s the problem?
What would have been embarrassing however I could have had a 3 some with the fat fuck MILF/ DILF combo from Wigan, been caught on camera and it made public, I would have been that embarrassed I would have had to leave my position as Sunday School teacher in York Methodist Church.
Dear All,
Bet you cannot wait until we can properly get at the agents.
We need Harlequin to collapse first, so redress is the only real option.
Then we can smash them. Particularly those who “donated” to PHIG.
To be fair, we were going to leave them alone. However, some of them are such snakes, they deserve it.
The “Guaranteed Mortgage” promise is the killer. Any suggestions who we should sue first ?
The Ambulance Chasing Society of Great Britain
Is that the sum total of your contribution to this blog. A blog concerning people’s life’s and a grubby little conman. Nobody cares about Ingham or the Broughtons. Get a grip you are only embarrassing yourself. We have have heard it all before. BORING.
Looks like I have shook of the two stalking hippos from Wigan, eventually given up talking about me after realising my investment is now only £10k with my refund, realised that the low percentage invested is correct and they couldn’t do the maths.
They say it’s been refunded due to arse licking Dave but imagine arselicking the fat Wigan bastards, I bet there’s a pint of arse vinegar between both their cheeks in this weather, looks like malt vinegar but smells and tastes like a decomposing afghani.
They are still struggling with working out whether the cars are bought or leased, trouble is they are company cars and they can’t work the conundrum out.
Anyway, off 100 yards to York racecourse to give the dogs a run then back to my rather comfy, clean, modern home just a mile from York Minster
@ mmmm no water;Your wrong I don’t give a fuck about the Broughtons, the Broughtons give a fuck about me!
She gives a fuck that much she sits outside my in her car eating battered sausage and chips whilst scaring my children, you call it boring I call it an obsession
Everything will grind to a halt now. I am off on holiday and won’t be back for some time. So you are on your own now. Wonder where I can go with a million quid in my back pocket?
@AYDLC 4.12. Sorry to be thick about this topic. If he’s already paid up,why does he need a body guard? Does his stopping paying the body guard coincide with his stopping paying the bills for one? I can believe that he may have thought employing a body guard was what fancy businessmen do. It’s like flooding a dinner with stinking c*nts and imagining it makes a smart night out……A naff little tw*t wouldn’t know a smart night out if he tripped over it.
Is the fact that there is no longer a body guard suggest that he has paid off the rough trasde and no longer needs one? Thanks in advance for helping someone, who really doesn’t understand the ways of scum.
Have a good holiday ambulance! And well deserved recuperation.
MEMBERS of the 19 families whose dead relatives’ estates were plundered by a disgraced Otley solicitor have greeted his imprisonment with quiet satisfaction.
Richard Ingham, known as Rich, has begun a six year prison stretch after being sentenced at Leeds Crown Court on Tuesday.
The court heard how the 40-year-old, a partner in the former law firm Barratt Chamberlain — which had offices in Otley and Ilkley– stole more than £1 million from client accounts between 1993 and 2003.
In one instance Ingham, who pleaded guilty to 19 counts of theft at an earlier hearing, took £40,000 from the estate of a former colleague and partner, Joshua Greenwood — who had left the money to help pay for care for his disabled son.
Mr Greenwood’s widow, Mavis, of Otley travelled to court to see Ingham sentenced.
She said: “He deserves it, I’m sorry. I don’t have a lot to say, it’s hurt me too much.
“It’s dreadful. You put 110 per cent trust in your solicitor and then for them to take advantage is dreadful in my mind, I can’t say what I feel. He didn’t show any remorse, that’s what annoyed me.”
Another Wharfedale victim, who did not want to be identified, was part of a family who had to wait years to receive more than £25,000 from their mother’s estate. Ingham had stolen the money and then struggled to pay it back.
She said: “We were one of the lucky ones, because we did get our money back. He’d ‘borrowed’ it early on after my mother died and it took a long time, maybe six or seven years later, before we got it.
“He’d obviously taken it from somebody else’s account to pay us back, I think that’s what had been happening. I feel sorry for those who lost the money.
“It was the biggest shock when I was told what had been going on. He was always very courteous and my mother had taken him as her solicitor because he’d done it for my auntie and she’d liked the way he did things and thought he was pleasant and trustworthy. I had no reason to think anything else.
“It just shows how easily you can be deceived. I didn’t believe it at first. I’m one of those people who can’t think ill of people but I was amazed and thought ‘what on earth is he doing?’ And in a place like Otley, where everybody knows each other, it’s unbelievable.
“Why did he need to do this? He was with a well established firm and he had a lot of clients.
“The money was from our mother’s terraced house in Otley and some that had been saved, she was a thrifty person but she never had a lot, it wasn’t a big estate, it was just to share out equally between us.”
Referring to Ingham’s jail term, she added: “It will give him food for thought.”
David Dixon, prosecuting, told the court how Ingham, of Croft View, Thirsk withheld thousands from charities, children’s hospitals and individual beneficiaries of deceased clients.
He said Ingham used cash to buy his wife a new Renault Megane car, purchase a house in London for his children, pay their university fees and stone clad his drive. Money was also used to clear personal overdrafts and replace funds in other accounts of estates he had already drained.
Sentencing him, Mr Justice Elias said: “You betrayed the trust of these clients and deceived everybody who relied on you. In some cases those who you have cheated were your close friends and colleagues.”
Referring to the theft from Mr Greenwood’s estate, he added: “That was about the biggest flagrant breach of trust there can be and it beggars belief you could have done that.
“The disgrace you’ve brought upon yourself and the shame you’ve brought upon your family is diabolical.”
Ingham joined the firm in the 1960s and was made a partner in 1971, when he gained the authority to sign cheques. Ingham falsified accounts by writing false details on cheque stubs and then made cheques payable to himself.
He lost the authority to sign cheques when he retired in 2003, but remained as one of the firm’s consultants. The thefts were discovered in June, 2003 when he asked for permission for a transfer to be paid from one of the estates into his account. Staff became suspicious and called police.
Mr Dixon said Ingham had plundered £1,070,167.96p from the estates but used more than £300,000 of his own and beneficiaries’ cash to cover his deception, leaving the net total gained at £703,003.69p.
Mitigating, Michael Taylor said Ingham regretted his actions and had pleaded guilty at the first opportunity. Ingham had paid back most of the cash by selling property and other assets and paying into a restitution fund. He said Ingham blamed high interest rates, his children’s education and taxes for the thefts.
@ingham. You and Broughtons might be obsessed (and a sexual pervert)the rest of us don’t give a shit. You were just a tiny, tiny diversion in the real show of a multi million scam.
@ Diversions; you are right but do you not realise Broughton is posting as Ingham under different Id’s and answering her own posts?
This is how onsessed she is, because of her hatred for Richard Ingham she is playing out to a forum to try to give an impression that she knows Ingham a business, she knows nothing
Richard Ingham is under a moderators ban on here and can’t post, he doesn’t read the forum because he can’t answer. Erica can contact Ingham direct, why do you think she likes to play to an audience?
Erica is back to her mentally ill best, Ingham has mentally broke her and her daughter Stephanie
@ You Judge 19.55. I think there might be a mistaken identity. The Richard Ingham admitted to practice as solicitor in 1968 cannot be 20 years younger than Ames (mentioned previously). Let’s all have a nice holiday.
I’m so flummoxed !!!
@ Nowt wrong with whippets. Here’s the link
h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIPFce7hKEQ
Just close the gap in the http, when you copy and paste in the address bar – too cute for a dog lover to miss.
@ Harlequin scum part 1 5.32. Jones the commission? Thanks for the link. It’s in the first set of quotes, next to his ugly mug.
“He works with people who share a common cause; working towards financial freedom by creating a true residual incomestreams…”
Sounds like a non-native English speaker….
So I suppose the people he shares a common cause with include members of the Ames family, employees of Harlequin and some other ghastly agents. Don’t let’s forget N**** and K**** (he uses old photos on his website), M*** and K** (about as much style as monkeys clutching greasy rags) and mustn’t leave out the woman with out of scale artificial tits…
A billion dollars of land? Where did he get that figure from? We’re looking at agricultural land (albeit with a bit of sea frontage) costing about £1.5 million per acre. Don’t think so.
And don’t you love the guarantees. 30 days free use per year? Did you think Ames would let you and your wife use the room FREE? So quaint!!! 100% finance available (asterisked, but not attached to an asterisk). Isn’t that the dinkiest way to obscure the absence of finance?
This one must be desperate; look at the bottom of the page – he’ll even take a commission on your fuel bills!!!!!
Harlequin
We are funded and we are strong.
We cannot be bullied or threatened.
We are a major problem to you.
Thank all !
I am going to Portugal to stay in my property their.
I am leaving Harlequin “stuck” which is the best place for them in my opinion.
At some point the cash will run out.
@ The Problem.
Harlequin are funded (in Dave’s World)
Harlequin have done nothing wrong (in Dave’s World)
Harlequin don’t have any problems (in Dave’s World)
Harlequin will build out all the resorts and start selling again (in Dave’s World)
I’m so pleased I recorded the call yesterday.
The best bit…Dave Ames advising investors he has finance to build out four resorts.
There is no doubt Erica overstepped the line with Ingham, it made her very poorly indeed. However, that said, the abuse and level of nastiness Ingham gave her was very disturbing, he also continued to attack anyone on the RL forum – he is a very nasty, mentally disturbed man.
I don’t believe its Erica or Ingham writing this rubbish, but Harlequin to distract from the fact Ames is trying to push through an illegal trust, that can and will be overturned.
@Mad as a mad thing – care to share the recording on AnonFiles? Evidence 😉
@Anonymous, I told everyone days ago I wasn’t the genuine Ingham, Erica is that ill though she cannot resist jumping feet first into the forum when she thinks he’s posting, and I couldn’t resist the sport!
She then makes anything up, which is always wildly wrong to try and get revenge on Ingham.
Apparently because Ingham cant reply on here without a lot of effort, such as altering IP addresses, he doesn’t read – no point reading if you cant reply!
Don’t forget Steph and the Sala(d) woman. Another pair of fruit cakes.
Don’t forget Mrs Ingham looks like she ate a few too many cakes.
@Baby Fat; And how would you know having never met Mrs Ingham?
Don’t try and deflect your and your daughters poor self control, that has caused you and your daughter to become morbidly obese, in fact we will have the biggest party ever on here when you final do have your cardiac arrest
Surname INGHAM
Forename(s) RICHARD
Title Mr
Gender Male
Occupation
Date of Birth
Last Known Address 15 The Mount
Leeds
GBR
LS15 7EE
Insolvency Case Details
Case Name RICHARD INGHAM
Court County Court at Leeds
Type Individual Voluntary Arrangement
Number (Information Not Available)
Arrangement Date 21 January 2013
Status Current See Footnote
Harlequin trolls
You are succeeding in making yourselves look like complete dolts.
Do I care, I don’t have a IVA
@ Baby Fat & Mother Fat; that’s useful, it says nothing, tells us nothing, did you write that yourself? Maybe you have the wrong person again?
You seem to get a lot wrong but don’t let it detract from a good story!
Maybe this says more…..
https://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk/eiir/IIRCaseIndivDetail.asp?CaseId=700877289&IndivNo=701969663&Court=LEE&OfficeID=600000127&CaseType=I
@Fat Obsessed & Obese
You are both fat and obsessed Richard! or is that the other half…..next you will be saying its not you that’s in an IVA.
So much big hot shot, living in York 😉
First Ingham lived in Warrington, then you changed that to York, then down south but you didn’t know where, now he lives in Leeds!
Is there one Richard Ingham? Are there multiples? Make your mind up?
Erica/ Steph, stop trying to rake up muck when there isn’t any to rake, you clearly know nothing and in that case your better saying nothing and not posting.
Your coming across as quite desperate and very ill!
You Richard come across as a fantasist. What has Ames got on you?
I think Angela is Erica and Steph answering each other!
What a fat pair of retarded dobbers!
@Angela; I don’t live in York remember!
I now live in Leeds, I was informed of this 10 mins ago, this is because I have a secret address where all my insolvency post is delivered to, I also keep my secret life hidden there of prostitutes and rent boys – remember?
This is beyond stupidity!
How would you know what I was Angela because you have never met me and I keep telling you I’m not the genuine Ingham I’m just pissing you about!
I think Richard is pretending not to be Richard,but defending posts against Richard, because he pretends to have been banned from BFP so he can’t read them anyway! Or is he his wife?
That’s odd….. but hey ho – who cares !!
I’m pretending to be anyone!! Bit sadly I’m plain old Angela / Steff ?and Erica.
And all that pretend IVA information…
@all mixed Up; Who are you talking to? What’s with this constant Ingham thing? Who gives a shit apart from you?
Its an anonymous forum we can all be who we want when we want cant we?
I wonder how many IVA’s there are country wide in the name of Richard Ingham?
Proves nothing and is irrelevant to everybody here – Angela/ Steph/ Erica, whether you are singular or multiple you have managed to kill this forum due to your obsessive posts about an investor, you don’t know, haven’t met, know nothing about. Its just a forum full of shit now.
On the Company Director Check web site there are 4 Richard Inghams. Perhaps you lived in Ireland Richard. This could get very tedious. Which Richard Ingham insolvency will be posted next. Some people really do need to get out more.
Just one in the whole country
Ames In Hebrew it literally means burden, but is actually derived from the eponymous Hebrew prophet Amos. The name may also be a contraction of Ambrose or Eames.
So what news is just about to come out. Thats what usually happens when the annoying perverted harlequin trolls start squawking like a bunch of rabid seagulls.
The fate of Harlequin has already been decided.
Dave is making a fool of himself on the call…….
I wish I had not gone on the call. Dave is poorly.
Any chance of getting a link to any of these calls. I didn’t hear…..
You missed nothing apart from the ramblings of a mad mad, nothing new.
What’s a mad mad? Now who’s rambling?
Summary of an hour and a half of my life i will never get back, Mr. Ames was much more confused and aggressive than ever.
Won’t tell you about the finance.
Can’t tell you who the hotel operator is.
RL tell lies.
Will give his version of the DD but not sure when.
Won’t divulge anything about anything because confidentiality agreements are rubbish, and worthless.
The WK and Irish builder got a few mentions.
No tax outstanding on any land it’s all up to date.
Then later, there was tax to pay????
The hotels now will be in the Trust.
He has lenders and finance for all resorts.
He has met with the FSCS, and they are happy, and say investors must sign the Trust
SIPP Companies, at lease two said they will support the trust, but can’t say who they are!!!
A 1000 people have signed up for the trust
100 completions happening, money spent on building?
Buccament Bay is just breaking even
It was just utter drivel, if people sign the Ames trust, they deserve each other.
Ames must have been taking the wife’s happy pills tonight.
SIPP companies
Heritage will certainly be one. I have seen letters with them getting behind the completions !
No SIPP will dare after the FCA last update !
RL’s newest update:
All,
Time to amend the Harlequin proposal ?
We have set out in this update the need for compromise to take Harlequin forward. The video update sets out the need for amendment of the existing Harlequin proposal.
We make the point that there are three groups of investors :-
(a) those who wish to join or have joined the Harlequin Trust proposal
(b) those who have active litigation with Harlequin
(c) those who do not have active litigation with Harlequin, but wish repayment
The current trust only accommodates those in group (a). Those in group (b) & (c) are outside the trust and unlikely to join.
With such a large number of people in groups (b) & (c), little progress will be made on obtaining finance without a re-shaping of the current proposal. We are committed to a sensible settlement to properly accommodate all groups. However, in order to do so, Harlequin need to enter into negotiations accepting that their current proposal needs to be changed.
We are ready to commit to these negotiations, the moment Harlequin accept that their current proposal will not yield finance. At the start of September 2014, the Harlequin proposal will have had 3 months. We are ready to work hard for the compromise which is needed to move things forward.
FSCS Defaults
The redress side of the Harlequin project will pick up pace from September 2014. The FSCS have defaulted a number of the bigger distributors of Harlequin. This opens up redress options for a significant number of investors.
We have received more positive adjudications, FSCS settlements and out of court payments in the last month. The pace is picking up and we are convinced that any investor with a FSCS / FOS regulated redress option would choose the 6-9 month process in front of the 5 year waiver of Harlequin proposal.
We have nationwide legal surgeries in September & October 2014. These meetings are for investors to meet our solicitors. We will be sending invites our in mid / late August 2014. Please speak to our SIPP team for further information.
Conclusion
August 2014 is going to be a holiday period for many of our staff. The same applies to most investors. We will update you all in late August 2014. Between now and then, our staff remain open to deal with your queries.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
Just to remind you
Harlequin Property 25 July 2014
The SFO investigation into The Harlequin Group continues. We have had several reports from worried investors who have recently received information from other sources to suggest that our investigation is now closed. This is not the case. Due to the complex nature of our investigations and the fact that several overseas jurisdictions are included within the scope of those investigations, it is inevitable that delays in the process of gathering information and evidence will be and have been encountered. It is not possible to issue any more detailed information at this time. Once we are able to issue a further update we will do so.
…and
Investors considering further investment in the Harlequin group of companies should be aware of information provided by the Financial Conduct Authority at
http://www.fca.org.uk/news/investments-made-through-harlequin-group
The video http://vimeo.com/102264086
@SIPPdisaster
That would mean Dave Ames lied to investors, never!!
I think we should all write to the FSCS and ask if they really do insist we must join the trust just like Dave said….
And that even SIPP investors prior to 2009 WILL NOT GET A PENNY BACK?
That’s what the FSCS said to Dave and his legal team it’s all true, Dave said so.
Why do we want reminding about the SFO investigation? This was covered higher in the thread. Are you going to “remind” us every couple of weeks/months/years? Get over yourself and find something useful to write.
Oh and your link to the fca statement is dated June 2013! Really is that the best you can do! To think I got out of bed to read this rubbish.
Because the truth gets lost in all the guff posted by HP trolls. OK?
Looks like you got out of bed the wrong side today BS Bob! Got a Lidl hangover have we?
@Anonymous, it’s good that the SFO is being mentioned more. “Dave” Ames was telling investors it was over not so long ago………. seems the opposite is true?
I’d love to hear one of these calls. I’m really excited to see how much jail time he gets – I’m guessing at least 10 years for the enormity of the crime; however, if the latest “reports” on the phone calls are anything to go by, he could be buying himself even more time. “Hole”, “Deeper” & “Digging” are three words that spring to mind.
Just a pity he didn’t con any real players (banking executives etc) – they’re the reason Bernie Madoff got 150 years. If Ames pissed those guys off, he’d be getting out near his 90th birthday
Did Ingham divulge his investment to the insolvency practitioner 😉
@conned
Idiots ignore the Wigan wobbblies
These are Harlequins new partners Dave mentioned. They don’t hook up with just anyone.
http://www.aecom.com/
There’s nothing to stop you asking the Insolvency Practitioner
Anyone on the call last night must now be convinced Ames is completely insane. I couldn’t listen to him poor old fool has lost the plot completely.
Where did aecom come from?
They look legit, but I’d hate to think they’ll get tainted by the toxic turd? Can you give any more details as to what capacity they’ll be a “partner”?
Lets not forget the family we are dealing with.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2586338/Conman-hired-James-Middleton-promote-bogus-rainforest-protection-scheme-used-swindle-ethical-investors-1-6m-jailed.html
They will be building all the resorts according to Mr.Ames on his call last night. He does not want idiots contacting them.
Does anyone have a recording of last nights storeys?
@NoName – does he have a contract this time? Perhaps some budgets?
Don’t be silly, in the world of Ames, he speaks to the PA it’s as good as they are knocking his door down wanting to build Chavy resorts 😉
And of course the finance is sooooooooooooooooo secret Dave does not even have the name of the company 🙂
Maybe Dave failed on the credit check!!
I cannot see a reputable company like AECOM having anything to do with the tin pot HP companies.
Perhaps what Dave A really means is that Postman Dan and the desperate scumbags left in the Harlequin bunker have maxed out their American Express cards in a futile attempt to keep the good ship Harlequin from sinking.
AE.com Geddit?
I don’t think there are many rats left on this sinking ship apart from Cpt. Ameless – will he go down with the ship?
Don’t forget that the management company will be Nikki Beach. Oh silly me we have had that one. Let’s think of another one to start a rumour then.
at Anonymous 12:26 pm
Feeling better now Bobbie BS?
I have asked for clarity on a number of points Mr. Ames mentioned last night
from the FSCS, SFO and Shipleys.
Poor old Bob, he does not now what to do now Ames has told him again to shut it.
I have it on good authority that DA has never told my mate Bob Storey to “shut it”
Dave Ames told me Bob Storey is an embarrassment and he has told him several times to shut it, he just makes matters worse.
The last time he threatened legal action – its worked.
You must have left the Wigan bunker then
And we have all seen a picture of that lol
Do Mr & Mrs Jones next door know you have entered into an IVA Richard?
AKA Bob Storey
Don’t forget the Richard Ingham in NI? Perhaps he knows the Irish Builder? Perhaps that’s why Erica’s gang have the fixation?
Richard, we know its you posting, we know you are embarrassed about your IVA being made public.
People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
As for calling people fat, have a look at your wife.
you have been totally outed again!
What’s you email and I will send her some slimming tips.
Betty Storey…….
@ Warthogs 6.24. Thanks for the video link. If you have contact with RL the Fatch, please would you thank him for all his efforts for the Harlequin purchasers and wish him a good holiday(away from all of us!!!)
Richard, you are letting them get you going dear boy. tootle pip 😉
@ Warthogs 6.24. Thanks for the video link. If you have contact with RL, please would you thank him for all his efforts for the Harlequin purchasers and wish him a good holiday(away from all of us!!!)
What do they expect? Storey and Ingham have been most foul, now when the tables are turned they are upset poor wee dears.
I have it on good authority that Robert Storey is not in the slightest upset. It’s a sign its Friday night, the anti HP trolls are out after an early doors happy hour. Friday night is pissed night.
You would know Richard
SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK
SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK x 10
Even the most intellectually challenged of investors should by now have realised that David Ames is at best a complete incompetent knobhead. Look at the facts though and the reality is that he is a grubby little conman.
“Anti HP troll” = disgruntled fraud victim
Robert!
I have told you about sneaking off to the toilet with that ipad, I have no idea what you do in there with all that grunting an stuff.
Come out, I have your box of wine ready 😉 and fish and chips.
Good try Richard.
IVA times are tough?
That’s funny I seem to recall the Anonymous twat earlier in this thread who said that Mr Storey was not getting any HP income. That’s the same one who did not believe the WK case is on NWNF. The anti HP trolls don’t know if they are coming or going.
Dick shut up, get Tanya to just eat less.
The trolls have found out how to use tinternent
This will end up involving the police again at this rate!
Oh dear.
Just reading the vile attacks on here is truly disgusting. Given the choice of being overweight or having such dark and disturbing imagery inside my head I know which I would choose. I think psychiatric help is needed by anyone who can even think these things let alone write about them and publish them.
Some people are heading towards the category of sub-human moral degenerates on here and I wish they would crawl away and keep their thoughts to themselves.
No, you got that wrong, Harlequin physically and mentally broken Ames, Ingham & Storey.
Erica knew when to stop.
If she did you didn’t. But we all wish you would!
Richard Ingham is currently in an IVA – that’s not made up
Richard Inghams house is worth about £250k not millions
Richard Ingham has a finance agreement that’s not made up.
Richard Ingham is not wealthy
So, who’s living a lie Dick?
Ames clearly has something on you.
Harlequin Air to start flying next week! Yes get in. Not bad for a company with no money!
Who is Mark Wheatley? Is he the chief ironer. Is he kept caged behind the wire mesh at the front of the ironing mansion? Perhaps he’s Stephs sex slave? Will we ever know?
Just read the Mat Ames link that someone posted.
what fantastic news that the scumbag will be banged up and no doubt his scumbag Daddy Dave will be joining him very soon.
Also fantastic news for Dave that his scrap heap Harlequin plane is up and running.
great timing Dave! just in time for you to scarper off somewhere.
Perhaps he drives the white van down to the take away every day, for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Good to hear Harlequin Air is running – when will they start paying investors back?
Harlequin Air to start flying next week – oh really? And exactly how will a 8 or 9 seater make any kind of material difference to the transport of say 60 guests? (100 rooms at 30% occupancy and 2 to a room)
Mere window dressing – if it does in fact happen.
2/10 for effort Storey
Speak to your God at RL unless you are a cash investor. No money to be made in that is there.
Would you not agree BBaywatch that a 30% occupancy or 30 paying customers, is good going for the low season. Don’t a lot of Caribbean hotels close at this time of the year? The difference will be, no extended waiting times for connecting flights, no lost luggage and cost effective transfers rather than the rip of LIAT prices. Would that not be good? Yes?
Anonymous, you know what else will be good? Refunds! And what else? Finance! And what else? THE TRUTH! Those planes were bought with investors’ deposits. No where in the contracts was it stated that the funds would be used to create an AIRLINE.
And for 30% occupancy – no-one even knows what the occupancy is.
Where is the information coming from about Harlequin Air? I can’t seem to find anything when I search.
but it’s great to know that Oasis are still going to run Las Canas!
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/team/oasis.php
@ABosch..here is something…its sort of funny reading it in mid 2014…
https://harlequinhotelsandresorts.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/harlequin-air/
Harlequin Air e mail sent out at 8.00 this morning. Perhaps AB you are not on the chosen list of recipients, I.e. An investor.
As to the 30% occupancy rate! you have decided to question a statement from our re ident travel expert! BBaywatch? A plague a locusts will be on you for that mate.
Anonymous (Storey?)
August 2, 2014 at 12:54 pm – wrong in just about everything that you say, hotels close in Sept/Oct for refurb and renovation and to give staff a break – not primarily because of lack of business. As we know Harlequin don’t do refurb and renovation and don’t give two hoots for staff welfare. The math on the timing of shuttle flights has been done several times before so I’m not going into that again but I suggest that you find out flight time/turnaround time and then work out how long it will take to transfer all guests on any given day. Yes, those on the final shuttle flight to an international airport will get there quicker but all of those who have had to leave early will be spending their day in an airport terminal.
Remind us again why Harlequin no longer use SVG Air Alliance who operate aircraft with triple the capacity of Harlechav Air and who do have the capability to transfer guests efficiently.
Parading your ignorance in public only makes you look ridiculous.
And the 30% occupancy? You stick by that? And the cost of connecting flights? Is not LIAT considered to be expensive. Give staff a break? No unemployment problem in the hotel trade then? And you are now an expert on HP staff welfare. You are soooo knowledgable about everything?
And let’s remind ourselves just how difficult it is to run even a large airline with economies of scale and turn a profit.
To keep two small aircraft flying safely and pay pilot’s salaries is not going to make the per passenger cost of transfer low. We can then see where this one is heading. Will this not be an overhead that is subtracted before determining the 50:50 room rate share with investors. Take off a hefty slug for the good bill (that was never part of the original marketing because this wasn’t intended to be an AI resort) and how much exactly will be left?
* food bill
Running an airline such as Harlequin Air is a much more expensive proposition than paying Liat or SVG transfers. Just some of the costs:Maintenance, Pilots, Fuel, Insurance, Taxes, National Insurance, Vat, Certification, etc..Not to mention the cost of the planes and their refurbishment.
This was a stupid idea, and impresses no one.
Harlequin Hotels & Resorts is very proud to announce that the Harlequin Air private charter service will begin flying Buccament Bay Resort guests between Barbados and St Vincent by the end of next week (week commencing 4th August 2014).
Harlequin Air will provide inter-island transfers exclusively for clients of Buccament Bay Resort between Barbados and St Vincent; however, we expect to receive permission to also fly to St Lucia within the next two or three weeks.
The airline will be operated by Caribbean Helicopters, who are local experts with 18 years’ experience and a fantastic reputation in the region.
It has taken years of determination through unforeseen setbacks, but Harlequin Air has now received all of the required documents and will begin to show guests and the travel industry yet another way in which Harlequin is redefining luxury in the Caribbean.
A further announcement will be released next week when Harlequin Air officially begins serving guests.
I recorded a meeting with Ames this week, the content is enough to cause him mayhem with the authorities and I have ensured it does.
They all have a copy, furthermore, I understand many investors, including myself have contacted the SFO, FSCS, MOJ and Shiply’s about his ridiculous claims.
I urge you all to do the same.
Visit the Caribbean Helicopters web page. Looks like Harlequin Air got a bit of a reprint. Caribbean Helicopters are now offering an Airplane Charter service. Harlequin Air exclusively for flying Guests to Buccament Bay, lol I don’t think so lol 🙂 🙂
@ Angela 3.07. Are Harlequin ever going to give a real photo? This one looks like a CGI. It’s good to know the pilots have commercial certificates – what a farmer asks for, when someone’s dusting his crops.
I’m less happy to read that all CH operations are on a “day VFR” basis. You’ve been delayed and night is about to fall? “Sorry mate, we don’t do night flights”. You’re midair and the weather deteriorates … “Sorry mate we don’t do instrument flying”.
Short legs conference call this week.
”Buccament Bay is just breaking even”
How will he pay the 10% return to the muppets that are completing and run an airline…..
What a load of tosh.
How boring Richard, run along now and tell your wife to get her big fat arse out of the chair.
How’s the rented cars? the IVA doing? Phew, must be better that going the whole way and declaring yourself bankrupt, like your mate…. only just I expect?
Is it okay to mock your obese wife? Don’t tell me she was pregnant….that’s what they all say. ….
Don’t give it Dick if you can’t take it 😉
Dick, I really know how to get you going don’t I? 😉
How many names do you have now wow! So many.
Only you Dick, would defend yourself, (having no mates to do it for you.)
How would I know where she hails from? But she was not very pretty and very fat.
Your words don’t upset me in the slightest after what you said last time, this is mild amusing too.
Give me your worst we are all sat round having a family ‘laff’ as you spell it…. at your expense. 😉
Anyway Dick, I won, I’m in control so I have decided not to continue. You lost.
Good bye Dick, I won’t be responding because you are an irrelevant very sad and nasty individual.
Poodle pip!
What sort of person spends so much time and energy in filling this forum hostile, nasty comment aimed at Erica ?. While the comments are hurtful, she must draw comfort knowing that anyone that has true contentment and success, would not spend a second of their life writing this drivel .
Or is Dave just trying to deflect attention away from the real issue here. 6000 investors being conned out of 400 million
The net is closing on Ames, lets face it he is the one with mental heath issues.
However, don’t be too surprised if he uses that as his defense when finally he’s finally arrested.
He will use his own recordings of himself to prove he is nuts and can’t be help responsible. I listened to half an hour and that was enough, clearly the man is stark raving bonkers.
Remind you of anyone?
Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a “psychosis” in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.
People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted.
Have a look at http://www.caribbeanhelicopters.com/new/
The plane looks oddly familiar. Have Caribbean Helicopters acquired the wonderful Harlequin “fleet”? It rather looks that way. Or, perhaps, it’s a joint venture where Harlequin supply the kites, CH fly them and can use them for other charter work and Ames stiffs his “investors” when calculating the net room rate.
In the interests of openness and transparency that the Great Visionary has espoused, we’ll never be told.
Whoever is the seriously fucked up individual obsessed with Erica and her daughter. You really really need to go get some professional help. I am not joking. Get a taxi right now ( you are not safe to drive) ask them to take you to the nearest A&E. You need to see the on duty psych. Show them this blog and you will be well cared for. I know and understand that the voices will tell you that what you are posting and thinking are right and normal but the medication will sort that out. Basically YOU ARE FUCKING MENTAL!!
Agree, I think the police or authorities need to be informed, either we have some really sick individuals on this forum, or someone is trying to draw attention away from the ponzi scheme.,but this clearly goes beyond acceptable behaviour.
This is blatant online bullying and needs to be stopped. It could be an attempt to close the forum down, and an excuse to get even with erica, because she had the guts to openly stand up to Dave Ames and harlequin con men.
@ The Truth 7.27. No That’s his c*nt and it’s time the stinking piece took herself out into the streets and started earning back the money she redistributed.
He is a worthless piece of shit with an inadequate pr*ck and should rent his a*se to earn back the money he has “lost”. Lost indeed!!!
@I actually pity the old fool, Ames.
Can you share the recording? Might give me a giggle. I need one!
Message from RL
Thanks for the Pink Money, thanks for putting the unauthorised Holkham up as competition and finally thanks for Bob PHIG being our main detractor.
All these things will make life very comfortable in 2015.
All these these things make life very comfortable now. £1m gives a very good holiday.
Richard, please desist, writing about yourself is disturbing and making you worse.
Nobody could use the word gent and you in the same sentence. Like Ames you seem to love the attention of being ridiculed,
I suspect you had a rather impoverished childhood and the dyslexia made it worse; however please get help you are a very poorly individual.
You use profanities is to hide your dyslexia, it’s not even slightly amusing and totally unnecessary.
It shows a lack of class and dare I say you seem uneducated.
Please get help Richard.
And savings.
@ Fly me to the moon 8.56
@ Collins 11.22. Wrong recording. He wants recordings of ameless babblings for a laugh.
Whoever keeps bleating, “Richard can’t post because he’s banned” is talking nonsense.
He can nip round to his local boozer, login and use their IP address on his iPad and write whatever he likes.
So give it a rest please.
And can someone post the link to the conference call audio file please?
Don’t forget this all kicked off because someone posted as “mr Ingham” obviously an impostor. More fools for the anti HP trolls who actually thought it was Richard Ingham. You have been taken for right mugs.
“Anti HP trolls” what are you babbling on about moron. You need to figure who and what you are supporting. So somebody that says its wrong for Jimmy Saville to molest kids is an “Anti JS troll”. Ames is thieving scumbag helped by a bunch of crooked agents, sounds like you might be one of them.
@Afabot. As you do not seem to have the intelligence to read or the mental capacity to understand I will spell this out for you. I will try and use small words to help you understand. Someone posted as Mr Ingham, it was a false ID. The “Anti HP trolls” ie Steph, Angela and others, did not have the intelligence (sorry had to use a big word there) to realise this, and instead rose to the bait. Indeed some would say it Mr Igham and the witches of 105 are one of the same. Now I don’t know if you have managed to follow this, but you have used the word moron in your post above. I think this is a very apt self description. And how you relate my post to me being an agent defies logic. Perhaps the thought of Jimmy Saville has excited you too much.
@ Anonymous 8:36 am
This is completely ridiculous.
Unfolding before us is a situation that has the potential to be the largest investment scam to ever been inflicted on the UK (and overseas) public and you are worrying yourself over an issue that would hardly move a Police Community Support Officer to hand out an ASBO.
This is disproportionate hysteria which I can only assume is calculated to disgust and distract in equal measure.
this anonymous at 8:36am is a really intelligent person
, this is how intelligent people spend their time,
goading victims of ponzi schemes on forums .
yep, really intelligent 🙂
Anonymous 8:36 and Spelling Police is Robert Storey aka as BS Bob.
He’s been here (and on RL and TA) for some time posting under various guises 36, FDNRM, Sportman he’s even been caught out impersonating other posters. He is here as a mouthpiece for Harlequin (some even claim he is paid by Harlequin), to cause disruption and deflect bad publicity.
He’s a waste of skin.
Why would you take the time to post about someone you class as a waste of skin? Wonder how any IDs you post under? But there again who cares.
Robert Storey has not posted on here for some considerable time.
Gotcha!
Just curious, is this the largest ponzi scheme in UK history ?
With 6000 investors/buyers being defrauded out of 400 million, and the SFO carrying out such an in depth investigation, can we expect to see Carol and Dave spending a long time in prison ?
also, Cannot locate Dan Dalligan profile on linkedin anymore
What do you “think” you have got”? The clap?
I have been told by a well know anti Harlequin antagonist Ames has been set up, along with many of his flunkies in a cordinated sting operation.
One of the 100 people who is ‘completing’ is an ‘informant’ for the authorities, they have all the recordings, emails etc to encourage further investments from gullible investors.
Ames was so greedy, he made mistakes, he insisted his staff contact the ‘fools list’ as it’s referred internally – with one aim get more money in.
for example:
– damming emails
– massive discounts
– claims of escrow accounts
– no money laundering checks
– telephone recordings of Ames and senior management
– Claiming the SFO have dropped the case (that went down well 😉 )
– double selling
He took his eye of the ball, he is out of money.
I’m sure Bob and Richard will jump to the defense of such claims of malfeasance, if they actually understand the meaning of the word.
Do you understand the meaning of entrapment?
I understand the meaning of Ponzi and £400 million gone down the crapper Bob.
Get back to burger flipping Bob.
Only a idiot would think this has not been subject to some ‘entrapment’ as the Americans like to call it.
How can it be entrapment if the information is give freely?
Yes it is time to start crapping your pants all you criminal accomplices. It may take time to get to you lower down in this scam, but get to you the police will. Ames will sell his grandmother when the going gets tough in the police cells.
Anyone listening to his trust calls knows how many lies he can say in an hour, the hotels are in the trust, he has finance for all resorts, the fscs say we all must join the trust, Shipley’s have granted yet another extension – all lies.
These alone will cause him problems, to think the SFO don’t know whats going on is ridiculous; given enough rope Ames will hang himself.
Little wonder Dan Dalligan has left Harlequin is it? Him and the Stenning family are being investigated.
Anon- £1m is a starter fee for RL. The real money is in the redress.
When redress is the only option the agenda will move on.
No need to endlessly analyse the passing of HP. Money back time then !
Dan Dalligan, the epitome of a slimy salesman, until recently could be found on linkedin, though it has been a while since he was ‘redefining investment in the Caribbean’. Wonder how much money he raked in for misleading buyers.
@Criminal Low Life. I doubt whether his gran is still alive. BUT if he was telling the truth, (what a ridiculous idea) his mother died in a hospice in Bosilwon. AND he gave money to the hospice. Guess whose money that was? Our money was spent to commemorate the stinking filthy sewer c*nt that delivered turds.
And of course, the archturd made himself look generous and important.
Every single f*cker that enjoys care at St Likes hospice is living off our savings and pensions, because the filth of Bosilwon will live off anybody as long as it isn’t themselves.
I hope the bitch had a long and nasty death and I hope her son does too.
Amazing how “Mr Inghams ” posts have been deemed discussing about the comments made about the Wigan coven. Yet some of the above are trolling at their worst. Even old women are not safe from the bile on here.
@ Phil Martin was right, 12.13. There is a D****l D*ll*g*n on the company list and this one might be a little bit too old to be the Harlequin reptile. At one time he lived about 4 junctions round the M25 ….. The Dartford crossing would have been a traffic jam in rush hour.
But of course, Harlequin worked flexitime.
The address given is a staggered terraced house, so if it is the right man and he subsequently moved somewhere more expensive … would the new property count as a proceed of crime?
Erica and co. Do not go round there, He may be a perfectly innocent man sharing the name!!! Do not photo his house or any innocent passer by.
@ Anonymous 12.40. Hey old women and some young ones – not letting you off the hook Manglefield – have played a discussing role in this cheating scheme.
Bile is a perfectly clean fluid that emulsifies dietary fats. Harlequin scum isn’t fit to be mentioned in the same sentence. Sewr c*nts are dirty cheating filth.
Bile ” or gall, a bitter tasting, lime green”….” Yes seems an apt description of some of the. Posts on here.
BS Bob, you’re making a comical spectacle of yourself today.
Well done. Please keep it up: we can’t stop laughing at your witless posts.
Why does this one idiot seem to think that posts on here are from Mr Storey. Why does this idiot keep posting under multiple IDs? Of course you could always e mail Mr Storey and I’m sure he will confirm where he has been for the last few days.
Ames really should have checked out who was listening in on his little conference call ……so funny
I don’t know how they kept quiet and listened but I guess they are trained for that very purpose
Does anyone believe anything said by anyone at Harlequin…take this example:This thing of promising much and delivering little or nothing has been join on for over 8 years now.And yet it seems that there are people who still believe them. Amazing!
http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/newsitem.asp?more=business&NewsID=26482
Well the gap between the promises and the reality has been so wide for so many years that I really don’t think anyone with a fully operating brain has taken them seriously.
Some idiots on the call seemed to believe Ames, however could they have been trained to be so? Act a bit dim, aska question then deluded Dave answers?
= puts his foot in it?
Some of those questions did sound like they were being asked to get certain answers?
We should write to the FSCS, Shiply’s and ask them to confirm what Ames said is true or false?
Did they say we must join the Ames Trust?
What SIPP firms are backing investment in Harlequin?
Have Shiply’s granted yet another extension?
It’s just more lies from the toxic turd
And where have the accountants been looking throughout this Harlequin shambles?
Have they been paid to ignore the irregularities in Harlequin, by looking the other way?
Carol it’s medication time
Ignore the last post. Who cares about the minor players in this? They are of no consequence compared to the fact that the SFO have gone to the trouble to tell the world that they are still investigating the Harlequin mess.
If the SFO are still on this after more than a year then it does strongly suggest that there is a case in here of some magnitude.
Sorry, someone posted before me. I was referring to the Mr Dalligan post of 5:15pm.
Every time some dimwit tries to derail this thread by talking trivial crap about irrelevant people then we need to get it straight back to the major issue of exactly how was £400m spent?
Why not ask the SFO, the police and the SRA if there has been a complaint against RL regarding the £240 paid under false pretences. Now that would be interesting.
I think you will find Bob, after signing a contract with RL and them doing what they said, someone doing that would look pretty silly.
Imagine recommending an unregulated firm, called Halkham to seek redress 🙂
Even Dave saying they are regulated on his last rant…. dear me.
@ The long arm of the SFO
It would be of very limited interest given the very tiny amounts involved compared to the main event going on here. It will be a tiny footnote to this whole saga.
I have no idea whether RL are good guys or bad guys in this. Some seem to think that if RL are bad guys then Harlequin must be good. It is possible that they both stink is it not?
@ Another Anon 5.46. £400 million was spent giving a nice life to some filthy scum. Check the photos.
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/launch/gallery.php
And the filth that shared the money should be out earning it to repay it back..
Dan Dalligan was head sales person for harlequin property, this is very relevant, Dave Ames could not implement the ponzi scheme alone.
To the outside world , harlequin wanted to appear to be a legitimate company, with the finance and resources to complete the hotel rooms and give their investors a return for their money.
Dan Dalligan was very much a part of that conspiracy, hiding the truth from new investors : the lack of building work, finances and resources.
I have written to the FCSC asking them if they say we must joint the trust.
Dan Dalligan said he was a director? Even more relevant.
@ Another Anon 5.46.
Have a look at https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2014/05/30/secret-harlequin-resort-legal-documents-found-on-london-train-here-they-are/#comment-1710246 The first block of figures are in £. The whole of the £400m – and then some – can be accounted for.
Interesting story about UK’s biggest ponzi scheme ( march 2012 )
Kautilya Pruthi jailed for more than 14 years ( yep Dave , 14 years )
His victims, who included actor Jerome Flynn and cricketer Darren Gough, were duped out of £115m with some losing homes, pensions and life savings.
“It took a complex and painstaking investigation over several years to blow away all the smoke screens and ensure Pruthi faced justice.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17299967
Largest Ponzi scheme in UK history @ 6.17 Let’s consider what is needed for scheme of this scale Employees in the know, famous names to endorse and lie about? the scheme. I wonder how much of other people’s savings and pensions Townsend, Cash and Player were paid to endorse Harlequin? all of them plus Spencer, I hope they’re all earning on the telly has beens.
The Les Mis cast at the Grove actually included Ames and his daughter if one of the agents can br believed (their song brought tears to his eyes1) Just as well I wasn’t there as I’d have had projectile vomitting.
And you need agents who know a lot of people, whom they can dish up as sacrifices.
All of these people can tell from what they’re paid (and keep quiet about) that something is not right about the scheme.
Harlequin will certainly be one of the largest Ponzi Schemes in World history.
You know what makes it a Ponzi scheme? One simple fact – no finance. I’m not talking about the current spate of “finance” (which has been promised for 5+ years) – I’m talking about the “guaranteed mortgages” alluded to in the much vaunted “investment packages”.
The fact is that 99% of investors would never have touched Harlequin hadn’t the promise of “guaranteed mortgages” been there. That’s how the the scam grew in magnitude – the investment became such an attractive offer to all types of middle (or even low) income investors, who’d never have a hope in hell of getting in on a much larger development (which would require £1m+ cash to go)
The Harlequin Property ponzi scheme is thus:
The mortgages were NEVER there. Even though the “investments” were sold on the provision of them being available, they are STILL no-where to be seen (I mean, you’d expect to see some sort of underwriter for them, or something). This has lead to a problem – as on paper, Harlequin still has to collect 70% of the “investment” after (if) they complete the units, which is probably one of the financial levers the toxic turd thinks he has.
The problem is that as most investors could ONLY complete if the guaranteed mortgages were there, “Dave” has a little problem now. It’s called a CASH FLOW SHORTFALL; even if he secures financing for the hotels (which he won’t), he still has to get the victims to complete.
If he builds the resorts, gets customers through the door and even delivers a return (in this century) – the bottom line is that he’ll never be able to pass title (and a return) onto the scam victims (which is where the returns lies), as the majority cannot “complete”. THAT is the ponzi scheme. The only way to deliver “returns” for victims is to keep promising much larger & larger developments – drawing more & more money into the “projects”, allowing you to feed your initial developments with the fresh money.
Without extra finance, the scheme would only ever be able to build a TINY portion of what was needed; thus causing the ponzi effect – to keep investors quiet & create the illusion of a successful company, spend money on glossy magazines, launch parties & other nonsensical expenses.
Might look good on paper, but when you work out the finances, you begin to see that Harlequin’s business model has a fundamental flaw – where is the money going to come from to support the “returns” to the scam victims, even the initial ones?
Now you may accuse me of being a “greedy Harlequin investor”. Sure, there are people who are greedy, but not I. I was promised a return within 2 years by my IFA, whom I trusted my PENSION to. A pensioner does not want World domination – only part of a successful enterprise, which will provide me with an honest income over the remaining years of my life. You’ll find similar stories with the 3000+ other SIPP investors. Cash investors I do not have any knowledge of
So fundamentally, the situation is thus:
Harlequin IS a ponzi scheme. It always has been & always will be. I mean, would YOU trust someone who’ll blatantly LIE to you with more money? Not I. And that’s the crux of the issue – I bought a return, not some scumbag turd telling me all sorts of mistruths. Ames enjoyed the money he made from the scam; he can pay for it with time like his fraud son Matthew Ames
Thank you RL for all your hard work
@ Thomas Levy 6.26 thanks for the link. and just a reminder that largest Ponzi scheme is also a live link. When pathetic short legs had £400m up front, what on earth was he doing paying interest? Apart from anything else, the proud boast that Harlequin had no borrowings seems to have been a lie too.
I hope the americans can be tracked down i’ve seen at least one youtube presentation by an American, on BB. I hope they extradite shorty and his c*nt, because 14 years is too short a sentence. He could still enjoy life at 75. add on some of the family members, serious agents and Dalligan – they’re worth sending to the states. Dalligan might get out as an old man, ravaged by time in a US jail.
SFO Investigation Continues, you have explained very clearly why the scheme is a ponzi scheme. Though dave continues to talk about finance (,though most doubt this due to his previous history, and because this in not a business model that any sane person would invest in.) What he fails to mention is how finance would actually benefit current investors , with worthless contracts. who have no legal claim over any new development
what are we to believe , that an investment company would give investors a share of the profits ?….. this is not how business is done.
Harlequin have continued the lie since their 100% finance scheme turned out to be a complete farce. Dave has continued to spend our money recklessly.
The supporters of harlequin cannot respond to this, instead they continue their mindless squabbles, because they have nothing of any value to bring to the conversation, and some just seem to draw pleasure from abusing women online, hoping they can do this without being discovered.
@Roygbiv
The interest payments were for the mortgages that many purchasers had taken out – that was the glorious £1,000 now and nothing to pay until completion pitch. The balance of the 30% deposit was funded by a second mortgage on the purchaser’s home, often dressed up (on the application form) as one for home improvements.
The interest payments stopped over a year ago and, despite repeated promises and assurances from Harlequin about banking glitches or similar nonsense, have never restarted.
Richard, the Wigan fatties won, you lost you toss pot.
Thanks Thomas. Patrick put up a youtube of how his payments had stopped. Ames is a disgusting little specimen.
The Wigan fatties won what? The eating competition?
I am now 100% convinced that only Ingham would post the above.
Or could it be his alter ego Katherine?
Richard, as a child were you cruel to little animals and bullied? This would explain a lot.
I just heard from a good source that Dan Dalligan has been taking flying lessons.
Him and devious Dave are planning to use the rust bucket harlequin plane to scarper.
Lets hope they flyover some dangerous airspace.
@ Warthogs o W. C’m on Baz. Let’s do some turd dumping in the A10s
I too have just posted my letter to the FSCS and Shiply’s.
Let’s all wish dan dalligan the best of luck in his new job in Italy .
As a healthcare professional I feel duty bound to report Ingham to proper authorities.
I feel his children could be at risk of some sort of abuse.
He has been reported to the police before, this time it will be the social workers who determine if these posts obsessing over female genitalia are a precursor to something more terrible.
I heard a whisper Dan was keen to leave the country and Italy is one of his favorite places. He also is a keen visitor of Cockspur st, no idea why 😉
It must be a thing with ‘network sales directors’
@LMLTBHC
What’s at Cockspur st?
@ Silly old duffer Bob
See http://www.sfo.gov.uk/contact-us/contact-details.aspx
Thanks WOW!
Can I say I would be surprised if the ‘network sales directors’ attempted a deal with the authorities – no. Would they do a deal I very much doubt it.
Lock them all up and take their assets.
This is not a P**S take, but why is that stupid little toxic turd carrying on?
Anyone who has half an ounce of business acumen can see that it’s over.
Buccament Bay is nothing special, nor SVG, far far from it.
I actually think when he’s charged he will claim he is deranged and unfit to stand trial.
Ditto for Mrs Pug face Ames.
@ Salsa Lady 2.03. The dirty little sh*ts are determined to go on until they’ve spent all our money.
If they have nothing left to repay it, they should be forced out into prostitution to earn it back.
and Anonymous who’s concerned about some children; they shouldn’t be reading this blog
@ redefining sewer female genitalia. Not even capable of understanding the comment made by Anonymous!
@ Silly old duffer Bob
I’d suspect that several of the brighter types at Harlequin have taken advice and are trying to do deals. I can’t see the delightful Simon Terry or the rather pneumatic Katharine Manderfield (Wooller as was) being daft enough to wait for a dawn raid.
The dimmer types, such as Simon Taylor, will have gone into hiding, hoping they’ll be overlooked. For a while, they may well be, but eventually I think all of the little minnows will be rounded up.
The Great Visionary will claim that he’s done nothing wrong, relied on professionals and then blame the agents for going off-script. That would be all fine and dandy were it not for the fact that he was at many of the presentations where the more extreme claims were made and failed to stop them being made – or actually made them himself.
Carol will blame Dave. Gormoid Dan will not know what’s going on and claim he never did.
Things could be rather awkward for the likes of the talentless pratts that are Andy Townsend and Pat Cash. They actively promoted Harlequin and were present at many of the sales presentations. Conspiracy to defraud, anyone?
Any claim by the Great Visionary that he’s bonkers will not stand up to scrutiny. He’s definitely deluded, but what egomaniac isn’t? And he’s no more batty now than he was five years ago when he claimed the marina at Buccament Bay was nearly complete, or that even if external finance couldn’t be found to facilitate the completion mortgages, that was no problem – the resort would be making enough money that Harlequin could self-finance them.
Would that the same same Katharine Manderfield who would brag about how many units she had, whilst looking like she had been dragged through a hedge backwards? The same one who’s big fat belly was bursting out of a skirt 3 sizes too small?
What’s the old hag Stennings and her misfit sons going to do for work now? Funny how DA was always so protective of them….. just like a father.
You silly man, you have no idea what I look like Richard &Bob
Bet the fat git’s not working.
Thank god for that Angela. The image of the Macbeth witches keeps coming to mind. How can Richard and Bob be a silly man? You are a bit thick aren’t you.
At least Angela does not have dyslexia.
You are sick Richard, I pity your wife and children – you need help.
Why do the anti HP trolls think that the comments about Erica are coming from Richard Ingham you only have to look at the list of ex colleagues that she has fallen out with. Paul Walton, GF, the Crazier woman. I bet even Paddy and his gang had enough of her.
Contracts don’t say how a property is financed, only gives the options. You don’t have a clue. Full of bullshit.
@rawc bullshit the finance agreement is with the contract …….. Ask Mr Fatchett I did , bcos I was sick of the shit on here by the troll section little Simon with the twitch
No the finance agreement is a separate contract. Look at your own, there again if you had to ask GF then you would not have a contract. Or maybe GF has give you the details of RI contract? Can of worms you have opened here son.
@ Angela 4.41 God I wish that were true
I have a contract but no finance agreement .i asked the question and got the answer . Can of worms ?.. Why . I am sick to death of the lies and shit on here so the man borrowed money big deal … Why lie about it ? What’s the big shame ? So why play the daddy ? Personally I couldn’t give a shit bring it on …
Ok BFP. Time for a clear out of the sickos. If this was a blog in the Uk the above poor excuses for human beings would be looking at prosecutions. I admire your hands off approach to censorship but how low are you going to let this go. Sort it out.
Yes BFP, there is growing interest in Harlequin and this is one of the few forums where the issues can be debated, could you please remove all those personal and embarrassing posts to allow the proper issues to be highlighted and discussed.
I am appalled at the way we UK citizens are portraying ourselves on a foreign forum, it’s sad that such diversionary tactics are being used to try and mask and hide the facts about a business that has failed abjectly in it’s original objectives.
Totally agree. may be that this thread has just been hijacked by trolls not linked either way to the issue (sadly there are some persons who just get their kicks by trolling and winding up people for the sake of it). after reading all the above abusive and non informative post this would appear to be whats happening. lets get back to some informative info please.
Britannia waves the rules…
Ingham, (the excuse for a man) is sick.
What can’t be disputed is the vile perverted nonsense that’s just covering up a scam.
Ingham is just a totally irrelevant sick fantasist, I suspect to be vile somehow is the only way he can get a stiffy on.
Ingham, does your wife read what you have written?
” I don’t see any victim here” Try 6000 fraud victims trying to get useful information from this blog, unfortunately hijacked by sickos. Wether it is you or Broughtons it doesn’t make it right. I don’t care if Erica asked for it, the rest of us didn’t.
David Ames is a conman and HP was one big planned scam right from the beginning.
@ Anon 9.38. I agree 100% with planned from the start. It isn’t just an old fool and his cronies letting spending get out of control. It’s lying filth right from the beginning.
Those being referred to on here in the most vile and churlish manner are apparently UK citizens, and the comments are a disgusting distraction from the real story bubbling away in the background, that of a business that has failed in the most spectacular fashion imaginable in full view of the authorities. Yet we are being subjected to vile and disgusting comments and some then try to say this may not be emanating from the UK, it is, it is the likes of Stenning, Manderfield, Dalligan, Taylor, Terry and the Ames’s who support any distraction from the matters that lie at the route of the problem that support this vile nonsense, anything to distract from the real issues at hand.
It is sad and disgusting and would not be tolerated in the UK. But heh, when Ames threatened WordPress with litigation all those very brave trolls crawled right back under the rocks they came from and some serious discussion around Harlequin commenced.
-UK Citizen
Brilliant analysis however one small correction –root of the problem- …
You see UK Citizen you assume that all the abusing comments are coming from people associated with HP. That is plainly not true. I suggest you read through the whole of the thread and try not to be so biased in your posting. If you want examples I sure as hell can give them to you. The only difference is that you have names that you try and associate the Postings with whereas the anti HP posters, as you said, crawled away until they thought the coast was clear to reappear.
Yes I’d say it’s a safe bet that most on here are associated with Harlequin in one way or another, had Harlequin been a decent business and Ames been a decent business man well then we would not have most if indeed any negative comments, forums or rhetoric, yet Ames has completely failed in his promises to investors, just last week in one of his calls to investors Ames clearly stated that all investors prior to 2010 will not receive any refunds, Ames also clearly stated that Shippleys had obtained a further extension, well after contacting Shipleys they denied this, so not only has Ames failed all his investors, he is continuing to attempt to miss lead them. Hence the anger, bitterness and resentment towards this liar.
I did not say that those I named were responsible for the posts, I did however point out that all those named benefit from the distraction caused by the vile and churlish posts, and if those named were decent upstanding and honest in their dealings with investors then my posts and indeed this thread and forum would in all probability not exist. But please do not let me prevent some out there from carrying on with the Streisand Effect, could it be that Mr. Ames knows that a full transcript of his conference call to investors is about to appear on BFP shortly and hopes that much of the vile rubbish will be enough to dissuade Investors from reading this post, well fine Mr. Ames we shall pass the recording on to a few of your favourite journalists, and your good friends in the BBC, along with Shippleys, the FCA and FCSC. Thank you for kindly letting us in on the conference call and letting us record it. For those of you who have not heard it, a copy is winging it’s way to the folks on BFP so hopefully it will be up for all to hear and read.
I look forward to hearing the transcript UK Citizen. I suggest everyone effected by the UK’s biggest ponzi scheme or disgusted by the current hate campaign, write to their Member of parliament, local police department, home secretary ,local and national newspapers, Serious Fraud Office, send them a copy of the transcript and a link to this forum , and copy the agent that helped harlequin cheat you out of your life savings, pension or home.
Clearly explain how Dave Ames and his unscrupulous sales team misled you with promises of 100% finance, highly misleading timescales and continued to mislead you to this present day. , and send a link to the youtube video in which Dave Ames actually told investors how his business model would still work without 100% finance.
@ingham Get Help, why would Inghams wife read this rubbis? Ingham himself doesn’t era it so why would his wife.
Why is being abused over weight worse than having lies posted about you about IVAs that don’t exist and having your children photographed walking to school
She deserves abusing and worse
Richard your abuse make me pity you not fear you!
If Ingham continues this filth his wife will get a copy of his perverted rants in thier very average Dringhouse house.
Posting transcript of a telephone call is absolutely meaningless. It proves nothing, and is probably illegal. And who could verify the recording has not been tampered with. Let’s hope the folks at BFP are sure of their position on this.
If winding you up Dick was the motivation, yes I would say the posters have won. 😉
Tootle pip Dyslexic Dick.
Yes, we are fully aware of his business activities.
@Anonymous 7:54AM
On the contrary, any evidence that can be provided will benefit the SFO & other authorities investigating the Ponzi Scheme. Although you’re correct about the legalities of the issue, there’s nothing stopping someone posting a recording, or transcript, of the call anonymously on the likes of anonfiles.
@UKCitizen
Don’t post the transcript to BFP directly, put it on anonfiles.com and recommend that BFP include a link to it in their post. That way, no-one is incriminated if it is illegal. Recording a transcript without permission, I believe, is against the law; linking to an anonymously posted file is not.
The Harlequin Property ponzi scam has been perpetuated by Ames for long enough. The authorities should be getting ready to act very soon.
@UK citizen 1.40 and UK’s biggest Ponzi scheme 5.07.
2 brilliant posts. Wonderful news that you have a recording of the conference call. Hope it comes out soon, because some of the 4-6000 purchasers may already have appointments to see their MPs
With the number of people cheated and the geographical spread, there will be very few constituency MPs that won’t have at least one constituent affected.
Time this dirt was cleared out.
So UK Citizen, you think that most on here are associated with HP. How does that stack up with the post from Dyslexic Fat Cat Worshiper Returns with the statement “yes I would say the posters have won?” That would indicate the majority of posters are anti HP doesn’t it. Which makes your assumption wrong.
Richard Ingham does not own a business, he does not have an LLP called Richard Ingham and Partners – the man is Walter Mitty – why would you lie on linkedin that’s really really sad!!!!
Okay, lets make this simple. He is not a company director, nor is he set up an LLP it’s a very simple check. LLP’s are recorded at companies house.
Richard Ingham and Partners 😉 all in the mind lol
What a fool lol
No, we just like winding him up, always bite don’t you Walter?
Come on Mr Successful, tell us about your big house, £65k cars, and your huge business, house down South, your place in Dubai.
You sad weird little man 😉
Tootle pip Dick
Whether posters are pro or anti HP, most if not all still have some association with Harlequin, either as employees of HP, investors or creditors and certainly does not make my assumption wrong.
@ Anonymous August 5, 2014 at 7:54 am, you state the following;
“Posting transcript of a telephone call is absolutely meaningless. It proves nothing, and is probably illegal. And who could verify the recording has not been tampered with. Let’s hope the folks at BFP are sure of their position on this.”
I think that you will find in this case posting the transcript in an unedited format is not illegal, but that is immaterial in any event, in the interests of the public the transcripts will be made available, they are the the words that came form Mr. Ames’ own mouth so therefore he should have no issue with the wider public being made aware of his statements to investors.
For example he now states that he has developer finance for all his resorts, if this is true is this not good news?. He also states that Shipleys have granted HMSSE a further extension and that HMSSE will exit their administration in December, (Shipleys have denied this however), Mr. Ames also states that the Authorities, including the FSCS are encouraging all investors to join his trust, (Again this seems rather odd), He states he is now in a position to offer developer mortgages (again odd), he states he has one completion at Buccament Bay but there are at least 3 others obtaining their 10% returns despite the fact they have not yet completed.
And there is much more, so if Mr. Ames is using this to try and entice investors to join his trust then why not let everyone in on the information which Mr. Ames is providing.
Looks like Ames shot himself in the foot! Bloody liar.
Once UK journalists listen to some of the absolutely absurd claims being made by Ames well I’d guess that his demise will finally be accelerated.
Glad to see that Aecom a public company is being engaged by Ames in the construction of his resorts, sadly Aecom a US public company are denying this. So is it a different Aecom, no not according to Ames, Aecom who were involved in the construction of the “Freedom Tower” in New York are to begin work on their Most Prestigous Project to date, yes Aecom are to assist Ames in redefining Luxury in the Caribbean. Next Ames will be attributing his ramblings to the potential soaring stock price of Aecom on Wall Street. For the record Aecom have denied any involvement with Ames, or any of his ventures and furthermore thanked us for our enquiry and information we supplied them and will alert all their subsidiary companies to be on the look out for any approaches made by Ames or Harlequin or their associates.
@UK Citizen
Thanks for the updates. Did you contact AECOM directly? Looking forward to your transcripts!
Who has got a Garry Player riverside villa contract?Perhaps Dave Ames could tell us.
So, we have this as a possible scenario:
– Ames is not working with AECom
– He never met the FSCS
– The FSCS did not bless the Ames Trust
– Shipleys did not grant him another extension
Could the following not true?
– Sipps love Harlequin?
– Finance for all the resorts?
I could go on but i’m bored of Ames, he is insane.
And did DA state that the company was Aecom?
Yes we spoke to Aecom, we also spoke to Shipleys LLP, despite Mr. Ames telling us in the conference call on Friday that those in Shipleys with direct responsibility for the administration of HMSSE were on holidays and were thus not available to answer any questions about the administration process and despite Mr. Ames assuring investors that they should email Mr. Ames directly for clarification of the Shipleys LLP administration process, we subsequently contacted Shipleys LLP who emphatically denied there was any extension to the October deadline as set out by them some months ago. And they certainly had made no decisions as to any possible CVA at this juncture.
Mr. Ames was very “confused” on the issue of finance, he stated that he has one completion and any delays to other completions were down to the SVG Government and out of his hands.
He also stated that any investor who invested prior to 2010 could basically swing for a refund and that any legal actions taken by investors who invested prior to 2010 would be met with a very strong and robust defence from his legal team.
Mr. Ames also pointed out that he had yet to loose a court case……….. Which begs the question as to what those judgements against him and his companies were all about in the Caribbean, apparently Mr. Ames is not recognising them.
We have also contacted the FSCS with respect to the claims made by Mr. Ames that the FSCS are fully supportive of investors joining the trust and the alledged claims by Ames that the FSCS have stated that all investors who join the trust will become secured creditors.
The have yet to respond. We have sent copies of the transcripts to the relevant authorities, the Mail, The Guardian and the Echo as well as IFA online etc …………………
Yes at minute 58.04 Mr. Ames refers to Aecom. I have been informed that a copy of the transcript was found on a train out of Basildon this afternoon.
I would imagine a copy was on a train to many interested parties 😉
Funny how this has shut up Storey and the Harlequin trolls…. Love it!
To anyone who wants to be sympathetic to the Broughtons, a couple of little extracts from 2012. Looks like they have property all over the place. Must be very profitable the ironing business. lets hope these properties were were bought legit and not from any tax free benefits.
Posted by ERICAANDJOHN on Tue May 29, 2012 5:44 am
Hi All,
I invested in Bulgaria several years ago and have been very happy with most of them, we have had land overlooking the GP Golf course for some years now and we were very happy when we first heard of Harlequin Properties as they told us that they would be putting courses in every resort.We invested everything so that it would fund our new life in Bulgaria. Please take a look and remember if it looks to good to be true it usually is, we all have to be more careful when parting with our cash. the truth is trust no-one.
Posted by ERICAANDJOHN on Tue May 29, 2012 11:15 am
We have land in Bulgaria overlooking GP course and also have property in Lesovo and Dobrich we have been through this process before and still we managed to make such a huge mistake we thought that as Gary Player, Pat Cash, Andy Townsend Liverpool Football club was involved that they had done there due diligence and so that we were safe. It just goes to show you never know…..The property we were investing in was the Dominican Republic
Still “loving it” Conned?
@ Bulgarian dreams…. So what? Good luck to them! What the fuck has it to do with me you or anyone else for that matter? Dumbass!
Remind me why this is relevant Bob.
@ conned
They’ll be back with some disgusting comments about the female anatomy or tell us that the fortunes of Harlequin will be transformed by a new towel animal that the chamber maids have learnt to make.
tetchy tetchy Conned. Obviously not “loving it” Nice choice of language by the way. lol
It is as relevant as, lets see, posting someones e mail address on a blog.
I suspect a slight exaggeration on behalf of EB, bit like 2x £65k cars on the drive.
Who cares?
That big fat baldy Masonic shit stirrer Walton has a Bentley and a BMW, with houses all over the UK, Europe and America – As mentioned before the ‘people’ business wink, wink, must be doing well.
Paul,How many people can you ship in a container these days? not many of you lol….
Wallpaper my arse. he is up to no good.
Him and Fatchett are Masons and want to bring Harlequin down because they have set up a CMC and need it to go down the pan.
Gareth is shaggin that Crazier woman.
No, she is shaggin him, with a strap on and ball gag 😉
A slight exaggeration? These are hardened investors. First sign they have screwed up they decide to vent their wrath on anyone who they dont like. Perhaps the fact they went to the SFO was a “slight exaggeration ” also.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/other-sport/tennis/fears-merseyside-pension-funds-after-3009061
Paul Waltons a bit of a porker also
@ Anonymous 3:18pm
“These are hardened investors. First sign they have screwed up they decide to vent their wrath on anyone who they don’t like.”
How in the name of perverted logic can you suggest that the investors screwed up? They were sold a dream investment that was marketed as virtually zero risk. The fact that it turned out to be anything but can hardly be their fault.
OK so you might say they should have done more due diligence at the start and decided not to invest but Harlequin and their agents targeted less sophisticated investors that wouldn’t ask awkward questions. When I asked questions they didn’t want to answer about five years ago I was told to sling my hook.
Masonic signals going on with Walton’s newspaper cutting – look at the archway. The blue watch, the blue shirt, the angle he his holding the papers. It’s a distress sign to other Freemasons.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/5o5.htm
Masons are mad about the colour Blue. This is the dominant colour (Royal Blue) in Freemasonry. Anonymous FMs said look in the front or rear of their gardens and you will find Blue ceramic plant-pots or Blue bird baths/feeders. Or Blue vehicle,
Blue clothes pegs (yes we’ve got it on video) Police (boys in Blue), Blue house numbers at their home or business. Blue background to their business signs or adverts. Blue painted gates and doors. The Masons normally have something Blue (at front/rear of house) that lets other pretend brothers know they are Masons.
Blue items on car dash/rear shelf (no parking ticket). Checkout Blue Blanket. Don’t forget to checkout their vehicle registration, very relevant. Also look for a Rose etched or imprinted on their glass doors. An Owl or Lion or Horned symbols. An arch (Royal Arch Degree) on top of their doors. An arch or half round above their doors in the shape of the sun-rays, i.e. it represents their Masonic Sun-god. Connections to a sports club who’s predominant colour is Blue. These findings do not imply that these are Masons, just connect this and the other Masonic icons, symbols and numbers. If you are not sure, contact us at SF. The other colours the Masons love are Yellow or Gold. Yellow represents the colour of their Sun God, Sun Rays, and Sun Light, etc. Gold is the most noble of metals (more FM tosh). The new chosen colour for English Masonry (instead of their black tie image) is light/dark Blue and Gold. Scotland’s Masons still wear a Black Ties to their meetings.
Erica is now turning her attentions to Paul Walton now, Ingham is off topic!
She cant spout shit about Ingham any longer because she cant find any muck on him and cant think up any lies.
How Erica can call anyone fat is beyond funny, Paul maybe isn’t an athlete but he could fit in one leg of that obese blubbery bitch’s leggings!
Erica likes to wonder what other people have because she is jealous and has fuck all, a sad comfort eating washer woman.
She now is slagging off Ingham, Walton, Storey and Fatchett.
She’s mental but people support her, she has had a week of making up lies and rubbish for a week about Ingham but everybody thinks that’s OK and she’s the victim!
So this is how you can run a Bentley and a BMW, by ripping off your local council.
RAINFORD PARISH COUNCIL
MINUTES OF A MEETING HELD ON MONDAY 22 JULY 2013 COMMENCING AT 7 PM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER AT RAINFORD VILLAGE HALL
33.9 Email from Paul Walton about the reasons Firenze left the offices in the Village Hall and asking for the two weeks rent owing to be waived. Councillor D Nichols had sent an email asking that no-one replied to the email as it was a legal matter.
RESOLVED: THAT THIS MATTER BE DELEGATED TO THE FINANCE, PLANNING & ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE (WHICH WILL MEET IN AUGUST) IN CONSULTATION WITH COUNCILLOR R NICHOLS
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Ames,
Firstly thank you for letting me in to your conference call last Friday.
I believe you will be using the same conference call in number for your calls through out August that being 0844 762 0762 Passcode 52555. I also believe you conduct these calls commencing at 18.00 most days.
Mr. Ames you made some very clear statements about the future of your businesses last Friday, I feel that given your absolute conviction (pardon the pun) that your business is not only robust but that your business model is the envy of not only the UK authorities but of banks and financial institutions world wide, that it is important that your detractors hear for themselves that their investments are safe and that shortly investors will begin to see those much promised returns.
I therefore invite people who do not believe what is being said on here to call in using the numbers above to listen for themselves.
You refer to a Canadian Bank who is looking to provide investors with mortgages, I would just like to make it clear that the bank is not Scotia Bank, as they are not in a position to provide investors with mortgages, I have spoken with them on this subject and they firmly but politely refused to entertain the idea. So I assume you are talking about another Canadian Bank.
I understand that you have many individuals seeking to undermine you and your business, I was one of those, I gave Mr. Fatchett details of your New York bank accounts from which regular large cash withdrawals were made, I gave this information to Mr. Fatchett in good faith but having listened to you explain on the conference call last Friday that Mr. Fatchett is only seeking to bring down your business I realise the error of my ways, further more I was not aware until you pointed this out that Mr. Fatchett broke a number of NDA’s with you.
As you stated you set Mr. Fatchett up by not telling him about land you owned on the other side of the Buccament River, and of course this land you own did not as a result appear in Mr. Fatchett’s due diligence.
As a result I also now understand why you needed to keep the offer you have to sell the Blu Hotel and the H hotel in Barbados for a combined total of 7 million USD under wraps.
You stated last Friday that all of the money you will win in the Wilkins Kennedy Case will be given back to investors, I however would like to take the opportunity to ask you a question, when you said all, did you mean after the first charge on the Wilkins Kennedy winnings which you have offered a large number of investors including the Hartland Group in lieu of cash refunds owed to them.
You seem to be totally confident in winning the Wilkins Kennedy case and put a lot of weight behind your win in Dublin, given your confidence on this matter, I assume that there is no appeal in the Irish Case which would see the judgement over turned.
You also stated on a number of occasions in the conference call that Mr. Newman did NOT apologise to you for the defamation, surely you meant to state that he did apologise as was clearly stated by you in your press release after the defamation case had been settled.
May I also ask whether Mr. Fatchett broke the terms of an NDA with you on the matter of the settlement in the defamation case, where you stated to him that the terms of the settlement were that Wilkins Kennedy and not Mr. Newman would pay your legal costs associated with the defamation case as full and final settlement of the matter as you saw it. Is the fact that Mr. Newman did not have to pay any costs to you coupled with the fact that you now state that Mr. Newman did not apologise for setting up the website anything that should concern investors.?
You stated last Friday that Shipleys LLP had extended the administration process for your wife’s company HMSSE and that those in Shipleys LLP were on holidays so all communication on the matter could be directed through your good self, I’d like to state that the guys in Shipleys now seem to be back from their holidays, so allowing investors contact Shipleys direct will of course take a lot of pressure from you fielding all those queries.
You also stated that Aecom were engaged by your companies in the management of your construction projects going forward, this indeed is fantastic news as they are one of the top firms in the US and are quoted on the US stock exchange,
I fully inderstand why Aecom have made no reference to this 1.6 Billion Dollar contract, I say this in the context of your announcement last Friday that you now have the funds in place to kick off construction of all your resorts simultaneously. For Aecom to announce this project award will see their share price rise considerably as they are a public company, so now I understand the need to ensure absolute secrecy on the matter.
Am I also to assume that the claims being made by Mr. Andrew Newman the former associate of Procure It Direct and Mr. Andy Smith that he has been engaged by you to procure construction items for your resorts as being untrue.
Now that Aecom are on board surely they will be dealing with all these matters on your behalf.
With respect to the issues and questions raised pertaining to the beach at Buccament bay during your conference call, I see you stated that the government have given you the beach unofficialy and that they do not want to finalise this matter with you until after they win the election next year, I now fully understand why you would not want this made public, you would have Mr. Eustace and others in the opposition creating merry hell over the issue of the beach in any election campaign, given that the law requires that ALL beaches in St. Vincent remain public. But it appears that you have done a deal with the current government on the issue of the beach and you seem totally confident that should they be re elected that the deal will go through.
I was disappointed to hear that Virgin Atlantic and British Airways were indirectly delaying the building of further units at Buccament Bay, but fully understand that these are matters out of your control. Let’s hope both Virgin and British Airways come to their senses and sort out direct flights to St. Vincent to allow you continue with your dream and allow investors get the returns promised.
I was also disappointed that aside from the one completion on Buccament Bay that you are not in a position to complete on any more properties, as you stated this is a problem not of your making but that of SVG. I assume you mean the usual Caribbean Government red tape.
I was however delighted to find that the UK government through the FSCS are not only supportive of your business, but actively encouraging investors to sign up to the trust and as you have clearly stated are guaranteeing that investors will become secure creditors in the event of a liquidation of the business, this must be some comfort to all investors. Thank God for the common wealth that allows for the FSCS remit to extend to common wealth countries.
And I am delighted to see you take such an aggressive stance against any investor who invested prior to 2010 if they seek to take action against you in relation to a breach of contract. Given that most of these claims are either time barred or will be shortly it would be a complete waste of your time, and as you so graphically pointed out last Friday, given your massive generosity in establishing the trust any judge as you have clearly stated would throw out an investors claim and force them to join the trust you have so kindly set up.
Well Mr. and Mrs. It looks like we got you all wrong. Best of luck to you, but being the professional business man you are you will not need luck.
I think we need to know what BMW and what Bentley – just to complete the story.
How many properties in the UK does he own?
How many in Europe?
How Many in America?
How many elsewhere?
Bob, you and me had a run in a long time ago on BFP.
If you remember I called you a “Twat” and also put up the Wikipedia meaning of it for you to understand why I called you one.
I’d have thought after all this time you would have changed?
In fact you have… You have become an even bigger TWAT!
Your childish, vile and downright disgusting posts regarding other people who you think is to blame for this mess is pathetic!
Why not for once, have the balls to man up and comment on the real reason why this thread started, which was to help 6000 investors to look for answers as to why having invested over £400 million with Harlequin, its all gone belly up?
Surely that’s not too much to ask Bob?
Are you not intelligent enough to realise a scam when you see one, or are you as suggested on Ames’s payroll? This is just about his level!
You are such a TWAT!!!
That watch is expensive.£25,000 it’s a 18ct ROLEX SUBMARINER with a limited edition dial.
I’m not going to pay my council tax and save up for one.
Nice try Conned. However you are too thick to realise that there are two “conned” on this site, one which posts in blue which takes a certain stance on things, and your “conned” which just likes to attack Mr Storey. I would say that makes you the twat. I fact not just a twat but a troll. The real reason this thread was started? It was by GF to try and bring down HP. Or are you too much of a twat to see that?
Does anyone wonder why Paul Walton is no longer a director of any company? Is that one of the conditions of becoming a trustee on GF trust?
I think we should ask him p_walton@btconnect.com
He has set up a CMC to clear up on the redress claims, its worth millions.
it’s not in their names, but it’s real.
Is that why Ingham is not a director? He was with Walton at Warrington?
http://www.yooying.com/tag/116618LB
Check that out…
Erica, imagine what your haters on this forum would say if you were bankrupt, had engineered the largest ponzi scheme in UK history – causing untold misery to literally thousands of people, were under investigation by the SFO, married to a pint sized delusional madman with a history of failed businesses and bankruptcies… a complete laughing stock, had a son banged up for fraud and your only supporters consisted of the woman hating Richard Ingham and the simpleton, Robert Storey, and your best and only friend was a bottle of pills, to help numb the pain.
Erica has the simpletons Angela and Steph doing the ironing while Erica and John are redefining utopia in……..Bulgaria….!
I wonder what is going on in Ames’s mind right now, his world is imploding and any debate on his demise is being stifled on this forum by a bunch of moronic and plainly vile individuals.
Ok a guy steals 400 million, tells investors pre 2010 to go do one, lies consistently and all we get on here for the most part is attacks on investors who’s only crime was to have invested in this mess.
If Ames was not such a humongous failure, liar and thief to boot, we would never have heard of the Inghams, Broughtons or Waltons of the world.
But he was and is and as a result he sits there every evening with his wife who is just as culpable as he is and they sit and take some pleasure that there are a few idiots left out there who will do their utmost to detract from the main issue.
That being that Ames and his wife and family are complete failures, and have only succeeded in wrecking as many lives as they can in order to protect the lifestyle they built up through lies and deceit.
(an undisturbed forest with unlimited shagging and crapping opportunities)
@ the watch 6.31 Has Dave paid millions to use BB as a backdrop to the seaside watch? It’ll put the lemurs noses out of joint as they were expecting some habitat protection for Madagascan involvement…..
So he is just a manager, what a laff!
Linkedin says, owner of Richard Ingham and partners.
http://companycheck.co.uk/search/results?SearchCompaniesForm%5Bname%5D=richard+ingham+and+partners&yt0=
Telling fibs?
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/richard-ingham/2a/8a9/387
@ A bit thick
Comrade Ralph is opposed to economic citizenship http://www.iwnsvg.com/2014/08/05/gonsalves-remains-opposed-to-economic-citizenship-programme/
Have a look at the photo of the Great Visionary. It is beyond words.
How is lard arse Tanya?
Is it difficult keeping up with the Jones, all those IVA’s, pretending to be the great ”I am”
Sad man Richard….. have you been to spelling lessons tonight?
@a bit thick
Yeah easy to make things up I’m a CEO of a big blue chip company.
I decide to live in a low rent part of York, just to play-down my wealth.
I also have a huge mortgage, because I invested unwisely with Harlequin.
I tell people its £189k cash, makes me feel important 😉
I suppose that after Ashton in Markfield, no 105, Bulgaria would seem a tad up market. Is that why the Bugarians are flooding into the UK, they have clocked the UK citizens going the other way? “Get out the Broughtons are coming”
The person / people that are using the forum as a platform to verbally attack Erica and her family on a daily basis, exactly how has she harmed you – and how does this compare to the damage caused by Dave Ames / Harlequin. ?.
@ Why?
I can tell you why. When little boys get scared or feel threatened they start calling people names in the playground. They use body parts as insults because that’s the level their limited minds operate on.
You can smell the fear in these posts.
I smell the realization that Mr Ingham & Supporter have finally come to terms with the fact Ames has stiffed them and they have no possible means of redress.
Just lash out at anyone – online behind a keyboard,of course.
@Anonymous
August 5, 2014 at 8:24 pm
Wow!
If you can find out so quickly about all the properties Walton has, and amazingly the charges without addresses etc. you must give Nikki Crozier a call now!!!
Such Mystic Meg qualities would be so helpful with the Ames freezing order.
Maybe, you find out where the £400 million has gone?What,t Mr Ames and family have stashed away!!!
Do your super powers work in Thailand and Dubai?
Please call. 😉
Yes, such skills would really be helpful especially when trying to catch a eel covered in baby oil.
Look into my eyes aka Paul Walton.
Take no notice of Erica she’s just posting bullshit and knows nothing.
She’s just making up lies and making a fool of herself.
Because she’s getting nowhere with Ingham she’s goading you!
For any investors that are interested in obtaining a refund from Harlequin they should call Mr. Ames direct on : 07960 958720.
Mr. Ames was discussing the ‘September refund program’ on his recent conference call; this is very exciting news indeed.
If you prefer to email:
DAmes@harlequinhotelsandresorts.com
I feel sure Mr. Ames would appreciate any support investors can give him in this difficult time.
This is Mr. Ames personal mobile number, I hope investors will only call between 9-5pm
I was on the call this is what Ames said. Anyone else hear it?
This was the quote, you see I’m deaf so I recorded it.
”However we will be making announcements during September where we will be announcing things like when the business will be coming together but by the end of the year we should be in the financial position to start looking to be giving people their money back.”
A bit different from the first version.
Erica always says she records things because she’s deaf.
The only disability she has is being obese and stupid, it seems to be passed down genetically too
But, it’s simply not true – lies and false hope. Harlequin won’t last that long.
I matters not if Erica records anything, it’s just a outright lie.
Did Erica take £400 million?
Richard, I think you have a obsession with Erica & it’s getting boring now.
@ Warthogs oW 9.59. Hi Baz it’s been a while, if you’ve been away, hope you had a good holiday.. I seem to recall that one of the excuses for Harlequin not finalising registration of chunks of land at BB, was that Ames was waiting to get citizenship, so that he could pay citizen rather than foreigner stamp duty.
Yet the prime minister, the gentleman responsible for awarding citizenship, says Ames is a citizen already. That seems to destroy the excuse about waiting for citzeship to register land purchases. I’m surprised personal citizenship would have had more influence that the locally incorporated company ……
Perhaps the man from Basildon is just getting tied up in his own lies.
@ Caught in the Act, its not Ingham posting here, his IP addy has been banned by BFP.
Erica likes to post abuse to herself so she can answer it as a victim, don’t fall for it
If things are going so well for Harlequin why are they offering big discounts (30 per cent) for Christmas and New Year?
Dyslexic Dick is back
” his IP addy has been ”
yes we all know its impossible to hide your ip 😉
I wonder what happens to the deposits for the festive booking?
One can learn a lot from a liar’s facial expressions…
@Nick Name
Ames has had St Vincent citizenship for several years. That exempts him and any company he controls from paying Alien Landholder’s Licence fees. It doesn’t give him a waiver on stamp duty. That’s levied at 10% split equally between the buyer and the seller.
I can’t see why if there’s one completion the rest can’t be done. Harlequin would have had to get all the legal clearances done for that one so I guess it’s just another bollocks excuse from the Great Visionary as to why he’s taken cash and delivered bugger all for it.
@ Caught in the Act, you must be either Erica or her sibling to state such a stupid question like why is Erica bullied etc;
Shall we recap what the “victim” as she likes to portray herself has actually done, and then the answer will be clear to all;
(1) Erica Stated that Ingham was a PI employed by Harlequin who was following her and called Greater Manchester Police – This was proven by the police to be untrue.
(2) Erica stated that Ingham lived in Warrington and ran his PI business from Slutcher Lane, Warrington – This was proven by the police to be untrue.
(3) Erica stated to the police that Ingham had been following her in a white car – through vehicle checks through the police computer this was also proven untrue and the car had never been in the area.
(4) Erica stated to the police that Richard Ingham was not Inghams real name and an alias – this was proven by the police to be untrue.
(5) Erica was given a police warning for time and resorce wasting.
(6) Erica was cautioned not to contact Ingham or any of his family personally, by phone or email, as she had been harassing him.
(7) Erica was warned by the police to stop parking outside Inghams house taking photographs which included those of his children.
(8) Erica confronted Inghams children on the way home from primary school, threatened and questioned them leaving them traumatised- a police caution was given to Mrs Broughton for this.
(9) Erica has stated that Ingham has an IVA – the address and date of birth are incorrect and no truth in it.
(10) Erica insults Mrs Ingham although has never met or seen her, she states she is a Canadian Citizen – again untrue.
(11) Erica states that ingham is a CEO of a blue chip company – nobody but Erica has ever stated this.
(12) Erica stated that Ingham does not own a business – not true
(13) Erica has tried to dig dirt on Inghams business and tried to contact clients to damage the business – all unproven lies
(14) Erica has stated that Ingham has a home in the South – only Erica has said this
(15) Erica says Ingham thinks he is living on millionaires row – never said by anyone but Erica
(16) Erica has published details or Inghams cars – these luckily are incorrect
(17) Erica posts abuse to herself on here and then plays the victim – this was proven in the police investigation and admitted.
(18) Erica posts abuse on here about Paul Walton, Gareth Fatchett and Nikki Crozier
(19) Erica has stated that Ingham is a mortgage investor of £210k – again all wrong
Now having considered all the above that has taken place over the last 12 months, you tell me how anyone can support what Erica and Steph Broughton do?
They post lies, mischief, untruths and then play the wounded party
Erica and Steph have managed to get no information right, except in their own deluded minds
Broughthton is the twisted individual but plays the sympathy vote, how people can think she’s the saviour of their investment is beyond belief
Oh dear, Mrs Broughton is a manipulative sick individual isn’t she!
If I was Ingham I would be exactly the same with her
I read on here yesterday, or maybe the day before Ingham was a woman hater from Erica, that coming from a woman that abuses children on their way to/ from school – Low life scumbag the whole family.
I saw the nasty side to them when John tried to assault Ames in Warrington last year
I would have a tad of respect if you owned up to actually being Richard, instead of hiding behind this id.
@Erica lets have the truth about you here so people can decide
Typical nonce
Condolence From: Tanya Ingham
Condolence: Sending our Sympathy to all the family on the loss of your Mother and Grandmother, Maysie. You are in our thoughts and prayers. She will now be watching over you all from Heaven. Tanya and Richard Ingham
http://www.englandfuneralhome.com/book-of-memories/612490/Stewart-Maysie/service-details.php
The best photo of the Great Visionary EVER! https://anonfiles.com/file/a03e79913d96c929bd1ebf6ea8688e87
The eyes of a dead fish stare out from the face of a con man who’s been caught.
Best caption time!
” cor bleedin ‘ell is that the SFO on my beach”
@ Grow a Pair; maybe if Ingham wasn’t banned he could post for himself, but don’t forget this is an anonymous forum!
Glad the well documented truth with the police got aired
Who else would know that level of detail other than Ingham? Who else would give a shit?
Nonce.
I’m so happy that you get to slimey Ames and and his scummy cronies so much. Most of this blog is now about you. Keep it up, loving seeing these dickhead monkeys rattling their cages. So funny listening to their desperation. Dave Ames is a thieving con man.
http:/ / www. companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/firenze-international
Paul Walton wants RL to force Harlequin as close to liquidation as possible so Ames will hand over the keys (and his little black book) to RL’s little group of investors with Walton at the top of the tree. Liquidation will mean anyone can buy the hotels and they can’t take that risk so they need to take it to the brink and offer a way out.
The way Paul Walton sees it is he has experience of owning properties and running a business so clearly he can do better than the man he attacks and calls a failure and con man every day.
Sadly it looks like Paul Walton can’t even run his own small carpet business. It’s only been open a few years but it’s in serious debt and a gnat’s wing away from liquidation!! Look at the link. Who would want him in control?
@ Grow a pair; This must be Erica, she’s rattled, a nonce is what you did with Inghams children, following them, photographing them, intimidating them.
You would be surprised who knows, people talk to each other, but the difference here is these are proven facts with police records to prove them
And a police record to back it up too!
Erica how can you defend what you did?
@ Well done Erica, Erica posting to herself again! You need psychiatric help dear!
What sort of scumbag posts the private message to a person who has died? Lowlife shit.
Oh, now its Pauls turn, full of rubbish and factually incorrect.
Maybe you should get some business advice out of the skiddy removal business in Ashton in Makerfield.
How does she iron with those big bingo wings?
@ Anonymous 1.13pm; the answer is Erica does as well as stalk primary school children etc etc
What a hoot “grow a pair Richard” castigated a poster because he/she thinks an anonymous poster should post in their own name. Oh the irony of it. You absolute twat. How about “grow a pair Richard” you grow a pair?
Well done Erica, we can now add another to your s and Stephs ever growing list of sickness, stalking and illness, she has now achieved number 20!
(1) Erica Stated that Ingham was a PI employed by Harlequin who was following her and called Greater Manchester Police – This was proven by the police to be untrue.
(2) Erica stated that Ingham lived in Warrington and ran his PI business from Slutcher Lane, Warrington – This was proven by the police to be untrue.
(3) Erica stated to the police that Ingham had been following her in a white car – through vehicle checks through the police computer this was also proven untrue and the car had never been in the area.
(4) Erica stated to the police that Richard Ingham was not Inghams real name and an alias – this was proven by the police to be untrue.
(5) Erica was given a police warning for time and resorce wasting.
(6) Erica was cautioned not to contact Ingham or any of his family personally, by phone or email, as she had been harassing him.
(7) Erica was warned by the police to stop parking outside Inghams house taking photographs which included those of his children.
(8) Erica confronted Inghams children on the way home from primary school, threatened and questioned them leaving them traumatised- a police caution was given to Mrs Broughton for this.
(9) Erica has stated that Ingham has an IVA – the address and date of birth are incorrect and no truth in it.
(10) Erica insults Mrs Ingham although has never met or seen her, she states she is a Canadian Citizen – again untrue.
(11) Erica states that ingham is a CEO of a blue chip company – nobody but Erica has ever stated this.
(12) Erica stated that Ingham does not own a business – not true
(13) Erica has tried to dig dirt on Inghams business and tried to contact clients to damage the business – all unproven lies
(14) Erica has stated that Ingham has a home in the South – only Erica has said this
(15) Erica says Ingham thinks he is living on millionaires row – never said by anyone but Erica
(16) Erica has published details or Inghams cars – these luckily are incorrect
(17) Erica posts abuse to herself on here and then plays the victim – this was proven in the police investigation and admitted.
(18) Erica posts abuse on here about Paul Walton, Gareth Fatchett and Nikki Crozier
(19) Erica has stated that Ingham is a mortgage investor of £210k – again all wrong
(20) Posts a private message from a book of condolences that was to a family member.
Erica, just how low can you go, people are seeing the real side of you now!
Well with that track record with the police the Broughtons would fit in well with the Bulgaian social society. Bit of pick pocketing and benefit fiddling should just about do it.
Grow a Pair cant come out as who they are because they are posting and answering their own posts, and we all know who that is don’t we?
The Broughtons by any chance.
How van people support this mother and daughter idiot show?
@Bulgarian High Society, Don’t worry a WPC of Greater Manchester police is reviewing this site due to a complaint, I think Erica may not exactly be heeding the warning she was given
Somebody who publicly posts a private message of condolence to a dead relative must be plain simple.
Its just a step too far Erica, theres nothing lower than that
I don’t know if that’s as low as photographing children, that’s a pervert pure and simple
Smell that fear and desperation. Whoever used the phrase about monkeys rattling their cages got it spot on.
“You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.”
https://anonfiles.com/file/a03e79913d96c929bd1ebf6ea8688e87
“I am not to blame!
It wasn’t me it was Carol, Matt, er… no it was my other son what’s-his name, and the Irish builder, BBC Panorama, Jon Austin, the agents, J Newman and the investors… “
Why oh Why; (probably Erica again) I see nobody frightened of anything on here, why should they be.
I see a desperate fat old lady who is heading for an overdose at this rate
A twisted family who conned you a 2nd time into thinking they were the victim when they were the antagonist
@ Warthogs 12.35. Isn’t he supposed to be in his early 60s? Perhaps some of those untruths are starting to take their toll. I know some people in their early 80s look better than this! Thanks for the photo Wartie.
Crazier takes accountancy lessons from Walton
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/07697014/CPC-WORLDWIDE-LTD
Oh my, Ames failed to get the posts on BFP removed so I guess he and his woman and what few friends they have left begin a vile campaign against Mrs Broughton in the hope that she will somehow get the UK authorities to act to have BFP shut down. Nice one, but wouldn’t it be far better to have the UK authorities shut down Ames. I do suspect that the clock is fast ticking on that score though.
It will be nice to see the toxic Turd his woman and son and co. all incarcerated within the next year. Will also be just and right to see Terry and Rees both struck off and also face incarceration.
If any one deserves this more than Ames it’s Terry and Rees, both of whom have behaved and acted in the most appalling manner possible.
Erica; Your doing number 17 again!
@Anonymous 2;26PM; assuming your not a Broughton, what an idiotic statement to make in your first paragraph!
You think Erica is trolling, posting and answering her own bullshit to help Ames?
No its just that she’s simply fucking stupid a bit like you plus a lot more mental than you!
@ Anonymous 2.26 Perhaps the maid has learnt to fold some new Towelling animals, so towelling has a few uses, also handy to dry the dogs if they go out for a mud bath….
Who’s Rees? I’ve either missed him or forgotten him. I don’t think it’s the tiresome little Welshman moved from Rhondda to Chepstow. Perhaps he thought he was moving somewhere smart….. I feel a Clarkson moment coming on. there’s no such thing as smart W****.
One dead sure give away of an HP supporter is their use of “your” when they mean “you’re”. I think that’s a Key Stage 2 English target. Bless.
@ Anon, Hello Erica,no I think you will find a troll is somebody that fills the forum up with spelling issues.
Its a forum not a fucking English lesson.
If your that intelligent why do you scrub peoples dirty undies for a living? Hiding your talents under a bushel??
No I thought not
Listen to that rattling cage.
I agree it isn’t an English lesson but command of language is a good correlate of intelligence. If the people in charge had a little more going on upstairs they might just have accomplished something of value instead of this sorry mess.
@Roygbiv
He was born in January 1952 so he’s 62. He’s clearly had a hard life.
The family tree of the Great Visionary’s family is online. I guess he thinks he’s royalty! http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/t/o/William-Stokes-Leominster/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0010.html
@ Anon; its a forum, nobody gets hurt when a punctuation is missed off.
People get effected when idiots part outside houses taking photographs, intimidating children, taking photographs of children, wasting police time, when a private message to a dead person is made public, just read the tricks Erica has been up to
That’s what thick fuckers do, so grow up you fucking moron and shove your dictionary up your fucking fat arse you pompous fucking prick.
Now pick the punctuation out of that you fucking out of touch, head up your arse, you condescending fucktard
@Warthog; Have you too much time on your hands, have you caught the Broughton Syndrome?
You will be scrubbing underwear, googling peoples names, photographing children/ houses and posting sections out of remembrance books at funerals.
No, Richard that is not a troll.
You’re the dyslexic troll (TDT) since when do you have children? As in plural just so you follow:
Grammar (Of a word or form) denoting more than one, or (in languages with dual number) more than two:
This is yet another silly little mistake that we can easily check, that’s check not cheque.
Just through I gave yoo a laff 😉
@Anon, lol take that you twat.
I think there is some monkey screaming along with the rattling now.
The word you were looking for was “affected” not “effected”.
In terms of scale though, I don’t really think you can put minor civil offences (if indeed they ever occurred) with something that has the potential for being a massive international fraud case. That would just be silly.
Looks like TDT has a following!
@ Anon; I thought being of a higher intelligence you would realise that its easy to make such statement of that kind when it doesn’t “affect” your family.
As for if they happened or not then they are well documented by Greater Manchester police.
How would you like 3 obese hippos squeezing in a white van, parked outside your house taking photographs?
So what is it with these Harlequin trolls? What are they attempting to conceal and why do they go to such great lengths to disparage posters?
TDT; Hello Erica, still stalking and trolling, wanting people to post in their real names but you stay anonymous?
I think your confused as to what multiple is.
Stephanie is one but has the volume of several, its different. Ingham used the plural.
I have no idea how you have the audacity to come on here after what has been revealed today, but then there’s no accounting for stupid.
Who’s children are you photographing tonight with your weirdo family, the 3 of you are hardly inconspicuous by the way there’s a ton and a half of blubber in that white van!
Maybe you will get some facts right by pure luck yet?
Pig Ignorant; ask Erica, she’s the one posting and replying to herself, she has her own agenda not a HP one.
This forum may as well close, its just got an obese Wigan family on here ranting and making fools of themselves, its not even a good show, its an embarrassment what she has been up to
Don’t get me wrong I would never condone anything of the kind. But I think the scale of offence is so different.
The purpose of this post is to discuss a situation which, if the SFO decide there is a case to answer, could be the largest UK investment fraud ever. And some people are getting hysterical, presumably to distract, about minor civil infringements which I don’t think have ever been the subject of a prosecution. Correct me if I’m wrong.
The fat fuckers stole the children’s packed lunches on the way to school, the Broughtons have no shame the fat bunch of bastards.
Anon; No prosecutions but warnings were issued to the Broughtons by Greater Manchester Police.
In fact I heard today from a reliable source that the WPC who investigated last time is taking screenshots prior to seeing the Broughtons as they were warned not to post or harass again
Anon yes some people are getting hysterical about grammar and spelling. Now you have been classed as a Harlequin troll by PIHT. I bet you are chuffed about that. (Notice the non use of the word your/you’re)
Thomas the Tank lunch boxes, they would be collectors items in Bulgaria.
This gets funnier and funnier. I can almost see you foaming at the mouth whilst rattling the cage door. I’ve been accused twice of being Erica today wrong gender and county desperate dickheads. Nobody gives a fuck what happened with Erica etc two years ago. Keep it up. Don’t forget of course EVERYONE posting on here is Erica.
Just in case you forgot David Ames is a scumbag thief.
Something must be on the offing, it’s a repeatable pattern. When people get something going against Harlequin – the main ‘anti Harlequin bunch’ get a stuffing.
Same old same old 😉
You only have to review this thread to realise who started all this. An imposter posting as Mr Ingham , Anon RU rose to the bait and the Erica tribe, Angela and Steph pitched in. Guess you reap what you sow.
Did the transcript of the conference call ever get posted?
OMG! she may break in and fanny him to death.
I also am Erica and I’m posting from Miami…
(I’m also sure a couple of us (Erica’s) are posting from Canada)…
make of it what you will
Gareth Fatchett is not actually on holiday.
It’s more of a working holiday.
I called RL today they slipped up, he is in the Caribbean.
Fatchett started his Island hopping in the Cayman Islands, then over to Barbados,
They then tried back tracking, blabbing on about that’s someone else who is in the Caribbean. What’s he doing there?
He’s doing the Lord’s work…if your God is money.
Where is Red Button Girl? Is she still ticking and tocking?
Fatchett is in he Caribbean meeting his new legal team, ones that can’t be bought off by Gonzo’s Hench men 😉
We’ll it looks like some mental health retard has no job and nothing to do or Ames has found another paid prick to post with BS.
What an achiever. You pissed Ames off that much he even gets an imposter to slag off an imposter of you. Now that is impressive! I’ve pissed him off myself over the last few years but I couldn’t top that.
Who is BS?
I have a Question?
Someone brought up the subject of liquidity earlier.
Ames took in £400 Million + in deposits, So therefore he has some £400 Million in Liabilities, He claims his asset at Buccament Bay is worth £156 Million,
So his assets are some £244 Million under his liabilities. Ok he has approximately £28 Million to bring in on completions, which leaves him with a £216 million pound shortfall. A deficit.
He has stated in his conference calls that Buccament Bay is not making a profit. The resort however has been open and trading for over three and a half years now. Has it just broken even all this time, or were there or are there still ongoing operational losses??
Ames also stated that Investors were now seeing their 10% returns even though they may not have yet completed on a property. He clearly stated that to date only one completion has occurred, stating that the issues surrounding completions where the fault of SVG and completely out of his hands.
Yet we know that a number of investors have handed over completion monies and are aggrieved that they have not yet received title to their units.
Ames has responded to these investors by stating that the monies that were handed over for completions were used in the normal course of the business. Investors argue that they were told specifically that these completion monies would be held in an escrow account, Ames is denying this point blank and has further stated that these monies have now been expended.
Even though the properties were in St. Vincent the completion monies were lodged into an account at the Barclays Branch in Wickford Essex, operated by the UK company, Harlequin Hotels and Resorts (HHR), (A wholly Separate Entity from the HHR company based in the Cayman Islands).
Has Ames been using this completion money, paid in good faith but apparently very naively by investors to fund the 10% returns Ames claims to be currently making? Whilst I doubt very much that any investor is receiving a genuine guaranteed return, if it is indeed correct then is this not proof that Ames is operating a ponzu scheme?
Apparently Ames’ conference calls are not being cleared by his legal team, unless of course his legal team are seeking to offer Ames up to the authorities on a plate.
Tonight the FSCS responded by stating that they confirm that they have never advised investors to join the Harlequin Trust.
UK Citizen, I suggest you ask GF if he can confirm if anyone is receiving their 10% return. If so then this is proves, according to you, it is not a “ponzu” scheme.
@tithead
Who said he had any of my money. I’m just bored and getting my rocks off seeing how low you can go fuckwit
A lot of you seem very delusional as to whom is posting. I don’t believe for one minute that Erica, Steph or Angela have been posting. I believe it is people trying to detract from what is really going on behind the scenes.
And do you believe that MR Ingham is posting?
@ UK Citizen 8.11 So the excessively naive investors who paid money to complete (money that has now been expended) SHOULD be getting 10% returns, IF Ames is telling the truth..
I wonder how many people are actually getting 10% returns or even any returns at all.
I am on a mission for my masonic brethren. BB will be ours.
Richard Ingham cannot possibly post ,he does not understand how to get around a simple IP address ban , can we now get back on topic, who can sell the most copies of the big issue in one day, Dan Dalligan or Sunny Stenning ?
The General Manager of Buccament Bay Resort Michael Ibrahim resigned as did a number of local staff members, the local staff members have resigned after being left short on wages and salaries over a number of months.
The local staff have filed grievances with their local labour department.
@ fuckwit “Your news is 3 years out of date” 1POST
Look who is talking you slimy coward, you have spent the last week posting HUNDREDS of comments about 2 years out of date. I’d say keep up but you clearly don’t have the mental capacity. Are you really really that fucking numb that you think the only people involved with Harlequin are investors. I’d try and explain but it would probably set you off on a wild cage rattling episode, Erica, tits, gash etc.
Hmm come to think of it you don’t talk about Ames the con man much to say you are an investor.
Not a lot of morals or brains. Aww bless.
Its perfectly normal behavior for someone to defend Ingham on BFP claiming not to be him ( but gets really upset and offensive) when they say he is Mr. Average, not even a company director…. or comment about his fat wife.
Let’s look at some facts.
– Erica, for whatever reason felt concerned enough to call the police about Ingham.
– He is a keyboard warrior, Walter Mitty personality & a bully of women not got the balls to meet face to face.
– Obsessive dyslexic posting, full of profanities about female genitalia
– Remember the abuse he gave some poor guy on the RL and BFP
All in all he is an inadequate uninportant little man
Ah yes Michael Ibrahim was employed by Ames previously and did resign not once but twice, His latest resignation being yesterday. A quick google search of (Michael Ibrahim Buccament Bay) will demonstrate that he is referred to as General Manager for Buccament Bay in numerous Harlequin releases for both 2013 and 2014, indeed Mr. Ibrahim gave an interview with local media over the flooding at Buccament Bay earlier this year.
So not too sure who the real fuck wit is, I will make this very clear however, we are on the case of Ames and his Mrs, and it’s apparent that their cages are being more then rattled.
Can anyone help me out here? Ames said on the resent conference calls
” Most of the Brazil investors had their money back”
How does that work, is he saying he refunded nearly £5 million 😉
Michael Ibrahim LinkedIn. Resort manager Feb 2010 – Nov 2011 Buccament Bay Resort.
Deputy CEO Dec 2012 – present ( 1 year 9 months) ARAC hotels an d resorts.
Looks like he has been running 2 jobs then. Either that or Anon 8.22 deff does not know who the fuckwit is.
Let me be clear, that’s not true I only took £97 million for St Lucia.
I’m not an accountant, or legal man, but call the SFO they said you must sign the Trust or you’ll all get arrested.
2012 we gave back 286 people their money, So please don’t start throwing stones. It wasn’t until we went through all the problems we went through last year that stopped us giving the people their money back. However we will be making announcements during September where we will be announcing things like when the business will be coming together but by the end of the year we should be in the financial position to start looking to be giving people their money back
I see Erica is writing more lies and rubbish about Ingham, it’s as big an addiction now as her pork pie habit.
She says Ingham is irrelevant to her so why is she constantly posting about him? I think he’s anything but irrelevant to the fatty Broughton misfits.
How can Ingham have mentally broken Erica when they have never met in public.
It’s quite an achievement to mentally break somebody from a distance!
@Don’tThrowStones Hope you’ve got your bases covered for when you’re dragged to court for being complicit in this Ponzi Scheme? Vinnie isn’t it?
How can you EVER even consider you’ll be able to “give money back”? Your main asset, Buccament Bay, is not generating a profit, let alone any other part of your business. RL received 1,500 “repayment” requests – if each of those investors invested a median of £50k, you are going to have to find £75,000,000 in fresh money to pay them back with.
How is going to give you that sort of money for REFUNDS?
What difference does “September” make? You’ve been promising finance & refunds for YEARS, and have still neglected the responsibility you owe your investors. Oh, and by the way – how’s the “BANKING GLITCH” which prevents you from paying the interest you owe? I’m all for making it a success, but not with FRAUD CONMAN AMES. He is a liar & a fraud, just like his fraudulent son Matthew Ames.
You know what makes it a fraud? You LIED.
Here’s the definition of fraud for you:
Fraud
“wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.”
How about this definition:
“a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.”
Harlequin are a bunch of liars…
You don’t have access to the finance you promised. You don’t have the “guaranteed mortgages” people NEED to complete. You didn’t own the land. You’ve been squirrelling away money from people’s deposits for YEARS without telling them up front.
Your business NEEDS extra money to BUILD resorts. No way in hell are you going to get any institutional investor giving you money to refund others? That’s even more of a ponzi scheme than the one you operate now
Face it – Harlequin is one of the largest Ponzi Schemes in the World. Rather like the South Sea Bubble (remember that?). How about the Tulip craze?
You run the company well – taking care of inbound calls, investors’ queries, etc; but MY GOD have you fucked up the business. Make the company public, dish out shares to all investors; get the government or another huge company to underwrite the building & get it moving forward as a REAL COMPANY, where everyone has the liberty to either liquidate their investment (walk away), or keep hold of it for the long term.
Right now, your business model has a huge hole in it – called “helping fraud victims find 3x what they ORIGINALLY invested just to ‘complete'”. You need to find a way to make the business profitable & sustainable without dragging more victims down the shitter
Richard, I think it’s the other way round YOU are the damaged, broken one.
It’s a shame for you, why don’t you ask Ames what’s ACTUALLY going on?
It very much appears that Mr. Ibrahim has been double jobbing, or it could be that he was subcontracted out to Buccament Bay by ARAC Hotels and Resorts, ARAC btw is a Saudi Company, was this where Ames was intending to get his finance???? Is ARAC the much talked about Hotel Operator, well regardless if Mr. Ibrahim has resigned and all the above is true well, it looks like Mr. Ames’ little world is definitely imploding very quickly.
http://harlequinhotelsandresorts.wordpress dot com/2013/10/16/fifa-world-cup-visits-buccament-bay-resort/
@Anonymous 8:30pm
Actually, the fact people are receiving returns has NOTHING to do with whether the thing is a ponzi scheme or not.
Let’s look at what a “Ponzi Scheme” is:
From “Investopedia”:
“A fraudulent investing scam promising high rates of return with little risk to investors. The Ponzi scheme generates returns for older investors by acquiring new investors. This scam actually yields the promised returns to earlier investors, as long as there are more new investors. These schemes usually collapse on themselves when the new investments stop. ”
From the SEC:
“A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business.”
Both definitions clearly indicate that early investors will receive a return. However, the part which makes the scam a “Ponzi Scheme” is those returns are paid for by NEW INVESTOR MONEY.
Considering Ames openly admitted that Buccament Bay is not profitable (could be break even), it means that he CANNOT pay returns with it. It’s a scientific fact that if Buccament Bay produces no “surplus” cash (a profit), you cannot “share” it with investors as promised with the contracts.
Therein lies a problem.
If you aren’t generating positive cash flow from your assets, where are those returns coming from? Surely not the “Wilkins Kennedy” case? Surely not from “completion” money? Surely not? That wouldn’t be using NEW INVESTOR FUNDS to provide “returns” for early investors, would it?
You have a very difficult job of sharing with the court why the thing isn’t a ponzi scheme. Whilst I don’t think Ames knowingly created such a mess, it has ALL the hallmarks of a Ponzi:
1. Investor deposits were taken for properties on which land Harlequin did not properly own
2. The “investment” opportunity was presented as “no risk”, “no money down” etc. (high returns, no risk)
3. Harlequin has told countless lies to its investors in order to achieve the time required to pull off the scheme. It’s worked in the most part, but always remember what comes around goes around 😉
4. The “Finance” which people were promised has NEVER been available. Ever.
5. Harlequin still has no concrete plans to proceed. No budgets or forecasts. A total farce.
6. One person owns all the Caribbean companies. If Harlequin topples, who’s going to get any benefits from liquidation? Yep. The majority shareholder (IE NOT the investors)
If you want to make Harlequin a real company, take it public & set out real budgets, forecasts & plans. That way, you’ll be able to actually provide real returns to people from CASH FLOW, not new investors
Click to access xmas-newyear-2013-bbr.pdf
It appears that Mr. Ibrahim may be leading a double life, or could it be that Harlequin were just using his name????
UK Citizen, the photo of Mr. Ibrahim could easily have been photo shopped, according to his linkedin page he is the deputy CEO of ARAC Hotels & Resorts and makes no mention of the fact that he is still associated with the most luxurious hotel resort in the Caribbean, Harlequin Hotels and Resorts, now why would he not want to be seen to be associated with the company that redefines luxury in the Caribbean in the manner in which the great Mr. Ames has done.
The plot thickens here.
Being around a toxic turd can have a career damaging effect. His legal team will very ‘shortly’ fine out.
SW; there goes Erica again posting to somebody she has no interest in and is irrelevant.
Ingham must really be in that empty head of yours, pecking away day and night! He really has got to you!
I don’t know why you bother changing your ID by the way!
Richard, I’m not Erica.
You unfortunately, have managed to redefine trolling 😉
Every post that doesn’t say Ames is great or you are a wealthy, upstanding, successful businessman of York ……you don’t like.
Go and get some help, please.
bit odd how a important managing partner has such time to post filth on here 24/7… like yorkie poo eh? whatthefuss? intheknow? tosser you are ingham
@SW; no of course your not, having an identity crisis.
Keep chatting to somebody who is irrelevant and pretend you don’t care.
I’m not Ingham but it doesn’t seem to matter to you when your reply!
Toodle Pip as Erica would say!
@ Anonymous 14:41am, that’s because it’s not Ingham who is posting, there is more than one person, I have been telling you for a week it’s somebody else.
Ingham is banned from posting.
So as for you saying its odd he has time to post, has it dawned on you now it’s not him?
Your as thick as a bulls cock, no wonder Ames picked your pocket is it?
What a busy time on BFP 🙂
Just so I can get this right; I’m apparently a bald, fat, UK slum landlord, who traffics Eastern European women for the sex trade (prior to being sold on I take them for a ‘test drive’ to ensure ‘road worthiness’) whilst owning properties in Europe and America……I must use all my properties to run my prostitution empire from? Sounds plausible to me?
In my spare time I drive round in either a Bentley or a BMW, with a £25,000 Masonic watch on, I’m of course a senior Freemason. I give secret signs to fellow Brethren via the Liverpool Echo, encouraging them to attack Harlequin. The Liverpool Echo is well know for supporting Freemasons.
I have regular sexy time with Erica, Nikki Crozier or Gareth? Or was it all three at once? It’s difficult to keep track.
I do all this whilst being skint and trying to bring Harlequin down, just so I can run it along with a Claims management company that and Gareth and I set up.
Well what can I say, it’s all true 😉
That said I didn’t take £400 million from investors, and if I did run a CMC with Gareth it would at least authorised with the Ministry Of Justice…..
Not Like the one PHIG and Dave Ames mention in their updates / conference calls.
I bet it feels good to finally come clean and get all that off your chest eh Paul? It must feel as though a huge weight has finally been lifted off your shoulders!
I must say, I’m impressed by your time management. Running a multinational human trafficking and prostitution racket and still finding the time to mess about with Erica and co. is very impressive.
Yes Sid, I feel much better after confession and atonement for my sins.
Must dash, off to drum up a bit of trade at the Lodge 😉
You should do a bomb, all perverted old men.
Finally, we’re getting somewhere. Ingham isn’t posting here, he just has a very vocal and equally as dyslexic fan club that defend his name (and wife) in the same disgusting manner that he would himself if only he could get past that dastardly IP address ban – the one the poster who “isn’t” Richard is at pains to remind us all about, repeatedly, ad nauseam, just in case anyone forgot.
And finally a confession that Paul does use his blue shirt, a 25k watch, and the newspapers to communicate with the lodge. One day technology will improve and new communication techniques will be invented, but until then holding papers at an angle like a semaphore in newspaper photos is the only way.
Will people stop referring to Richard’s IP address ban. All he needs to do is post from an iPhone or Blackberry using a standard 3G connection and that’s it. I can only assume that it is Richard himself that keeps mentioning his ban as some pathetic way of making people think it isn’t him posting.
And what about the £5 million Ames had from Brazil investors, but refunded ‘most of it’ not another little fib surly?
Dave seems like a jolly nice chap!
A certain irony though, If I had my IP address banned by BFP how would any other people on this forum know!!!
Silly Dick
@ £5 million refund MBTDS. Why did the refund go to Brazil investors? Other investors put down their deposits earlier and are still waiting for refunds. How come no one has heard of these refunds? Did you put a dirty little clause that they should keep it secret? Are you afraid it might get out what an inadequate non businessman you are?
Everyone knows already you fool.
It’s simply another lie by the toxic turd.
However, the conference calls have been recorded and passed to the authorities. Apparently by Paul Walton, you missed that in your amusing update Paul 😉
Ames said Brazil investors knew he didn’t own the land! However, I expect they would have thought he would honor the bit in the contract about a refund.
What did he do with the £5 million? It’s not a difficult question is it?
@YCCATBNALAMGUTS. That’s easy to answer. Google Carol Ames Harlequin in the IMAGES page. First 2 pictures show Dave and Carol with a football chief, wife and MP jazzing it up at the palace of Westminster after the Footballing chief got a gong. I think young Dan got into the act on one of them.
All about spending money to make the totally indadequate look important.
What a family of scum, sliding on the coat tails of someone else’s big day. And don’t forget whose money was poured into the footbal team…..Yours and mine of course!
What a record this “successful” businessman had /has…I guess all his assets are in the Caribbean, Dubai, and Thailand.
Company Check UK…Director Overview
David Ames holds 4 appointments at 4 active companies, has resigned from 1 companies and held 6 appointments at 6 dissolved companies. David began their first appointment at the age of 39. Their longest current appointment spans 9 years and 10 months at HARLEQUIN MORTGAGES LIMITED.
The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where David holds a current appointment equals £0, with a combined assets value of £0 and liabilities of £0. Roles associated with David Ames within the recorded businesses include: Director
Paul Walton may have recorded the conference calls and passed them onto the authorities, then again he may not have, but what I can say with absolute certainty is that we did. But does it really matter who did, if what Ames is saying is true then fantastic, nothing to worry about, with all this finance why need a trust in the first place, all is rosy in the garden, well if you are Ames.
Ok Ames has got 8 weeks to get his shit together or Shipleys will pull the plug on HMSSE, Liquidators will be appointed to the company unless Ames can demonstrate to a judge in the UK High Court why this should not happen, hence the frantic calls to investors to join his trust. When the liquidators are appointed they will call in the monies owed through the inter company debt balances, and as Ames has pointed out to us in his conference calls, he is neither a lawyer nor an accountant so his ramblings about the inter company debt situation to his investors on his conference calls are just that.
Then sadly its game over, oh yeah at that point the SFO move in and get their man, woman, son and those senior HMSSE employees either current or past.
Thats the way this story will now end.
Simple question, is Harlequin solvent?
Its common knowledge that Harlequin hasn’t been solvent for years.
Funny how the relevance of the post by anonymous is considered irrelevant by someone who has just brought my and potentially others attention to it, and on reading the post I beg to differ, and even if it was irrelevant why bother highlighting it’s potential irrelevance, that’s what’s called the Striesand Effect folks.
More delightful language by the limited intelligence brigade (pigs in knickers). More monkey screaming and cage rattling.
For the umpteenth time, most people these days have two or three devices they use to connect to the internet and they usually do so using a wide range of WiFi and 3G connections. You get a different IP address everywhere you go so there is no practical way of banning anyone. So please don’t insult anyone’s intelligence by telling us person x or y is banned from posting.
Wasn’t some person banned by BFP for posting under multiple IDs some time ago?
Also if you want to know about Brazil refund ask Erica. She received a refund some time ago.
My oh, my, we are grumpy tonight Richard. How your imaginary life 😉
How glad am I that I chose to put my spare cash in a rental property in London instead of investing in this shower. Enjoying a nice steady 6% revenue return and more capital growth than you can shake a stick at.
Things are seldom what they seem,
Skim milk masquerades as cream;
Highlows pass as patent leather;
Jackdaws strut in peacock’s feathers
…..W.S. Gilbert
This thread has become the Richard Ingham/Erica Broughton
gong-show. Thank God the BFP Webmaster seems to be culling
and removing the most offensive posts overnight. Everyone really
needs to get back on track and that is the Harlequin Ponzi Crime.
@boy I’m glad I never listened etc etc, my 10% return from HP beats your 6 %. I’m a winner and you are………..not.
Getting a little tetchy aren’t you “not” Richard? I would be a little concerned if I “wasn’t” Richard too. Especially when the person who is abusing others on this form (who definitely isn’t Richard) lives in a country with strict anti-harassment laws, and especially when the authorities are taking a keen interest not only in HP in general, but specifically this forum.
“Not” being Richard won’t be a defence will it? Answer me this, how has this forum been reduced to a defend Richard at all costs argument? Is anyone defending Erica from the abuse here? Someone who “isn’t” Richard is typing schoolboy jokes about genitals, the same kind of “jokes” and language Richard would use if only he could get past this impenetrable IP address ban.
Those of us who have read about this fiasco from the start have seen a definite pattern over the years. This forum is usually bombarded with vile, irrelevant smut just as news of more wrongdoing or irregularities with Harlequin emerge. It wasn’t shut down in the past, and it won’t be now.
As much as everyone can’t stand Storey’s constant defence of the indefensible, at least he can communicate without resorting to smut and foul language. We can spot Storey’s “anonymous” posts a mile off, in the same way we can spot posts from someone who most definitely “isn’t” Richard.
One question – How did England ever become a world power?
@ anon 10.03pm
But the 6% revenue return is tiny compared to the capital growth on a real asset that I could sell within days of marketing…
If you are receiving a 10% return on an investment that is only just starting to break even we have to ask what kind of project that is and where the investment return is being drawn from… might that be from other investors?
Another question worth asking is what happens to your investment return and the capital value of the unit if the whole ship goes down. This surely must be a distinct possibility if not a likely outcome.
Harlequin sponsored Port Vale…
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Breaking-News-Shirt-sponsor-set-invest-1-2-million-Port-Vale/story-12491633-detail/story.html
but of course that all ended in tears…
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Port-Vale-sued-Harlequin-Property-125k-loan/story-15244552-detail/story.html
Google Bill Bratt and Dave Ames to see a pic of him and Carol ‘bigging it’ up outside the Houses of Parliament.
Harlequin sponsored Port Vale…
but of course that all ended in tears…
Google ‘Port Vale and Harlequin’ (BFP doesn’t like my links) and look on The Stoke Sentinel which relates the whole sorry saga.
£5K on a Christmas party?
Investors’ cash was thrown all over the place apart from the relatively small amount used to partially build out BB. The £1m two day launch event is enough to make anyone’s eyes water.
@tim nice but dim.”the authorities are taking a keen interest in this forum” best laugh I’ve had for weeks. As someone who has been to the authorities about this forum, believe me they could not give a shit.
Anyone found it yet, must have been a banking error?
Sorry I was referring to the £5 million Brazil money.
Or maybe the Las Canas £90 million Ames took in deposits…..
The toxic turd and his ugly old cow of a whore wife spent this money on whatever they liked.
Some would have been used propping up a failed business venture on that horrible little island.
A fair chunk was given to the family – the very same family who have a convicted fraudster.
The net is truly closing in on this cursed family. Yes they have been truly cursed to bring such misery.
What goes around come around, it always has always will.
Was it really worth it?
A Harlequin spokesman added: “For the avoidance of doubt, Harlequin does not claim the investigation [Serious Fraud Office] has closed. Harlequin strives for honesty and openness with its purchasers . Aside from innocent misunderstandings, Harlequin can only assume third parties wanted the investigation to make headlines again and ensured it would, with several enquires. Harlequin maintains and is firm in its stance it is innocent of the accusations being investigated.”
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/11395824.Harlequin_fraud_probe_continues/
So why did the SFO see the need to issue a statement?
Because several people contacted them to to ask if the investigation had been dropped. Simple really.
Quote “Harlequin strives for honesty and openness with its purchasers”
Well, I just wanted clarification on what a purchaser is, so I checked it online
“someone who pays for goods or service”
I guess 99% + of investors cannot be described as purchasers, because we have not received services or goods in exchange for our 400 million pounds,
Victims of fraud would be much more accurate description.
Harlequin strives for honesty and openness with its purchasers ( Storey & ingham ? ) while undermining, abusing and disrespecting the 6000 victims of fraud.
.
Ask Erica. She always insisted she was a purchaser not an investor.
So Anonymous august 8 at 12:05, did you make an investment / purchase through harlequin, and what have you received in exchange for your investment / payment ? .
How best describes you ? an investor, purchaser , victim of fraud, agent / employee of harlequin , ?
Completions
If it’s your intention to complete on a property on BB, please seek independent legal advice before you hand over any further funds to Harlequin!
Otherwise you might as well chuck your money into the Thames..
How about a poster on BFP? Yes that just about covers it.
What Purchasers?
The post Anonymous 12:05 and 12:46 are from BS Bob Storey. Don’t waste your time on him. He’s here to fill up the thread with misinformation, nonsense and diversion.
What Purchasers?
The post Anonymous 12:05 and 12:46 are from BS Bob Storey. Don’t waste your time on him. He’s here to fill up the thread with misinformation, nonsense and diversion.
So Bob has switched sides now has he ?, and has now recognised the harlequin business model is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme, and is willing to admit that Dave Ames shafted 6000 investors by not providing the goods and service they paid for.
I am so pleased.
Every now and again you think certain posts are from Mr Storey. You really do not have a clue do you. Nice to know you are keeping his profile high on here.
Thankfully, Ames has told his attack poodle Ingham to shut it, and carry on looking for a job.
Storey, was told in no uncertain terms he would never see another penny if his embarrassment continued.
I wonder if he told them the real reason?
Ironic that the people who call Dave a conman, enlist the help of Nikki Crozier, who at best has (had) a conwoman as a sister, or ever could be good old Audrey herself.
http://www.spanishpropertyinsight.com/discussion/forum-topic/does-anyone-remember-audrey-dixon-and-oasis-properties/
So now you cannot decide if Mr Storey was posting earlier, or has been told to shut up. Is that the best you can do “lost their bark” has lost his marbles.
http://www.granalacantplaza.eu/forum/showthread.php?853-AUDREY-DIXON-OASIS/page2
What do you think???
What do you think???
We think you’re barking bonkers Mr Bob Storey!
The British Home Office (Ministerio del Interior) actually got involved in one case, a company called Oasis Properties had been scamming so many people that the Home Office asked the Spanish police to arrest the owner of the company and sling her in jail. In 2004, Audrey Dixon was incarcerated in Malaga for fraud. However, you can’t rely on the British authorities taking an interest in your case. They won’t.
Spain is currently in the shit for its ‘land grab’, its expropriations, its demolitions, rule-changes, land reform, illegal urbanisations and so on. The Spanish seem largely unaware of this self-damage. Unfortunately, no one will bail out the unfortunate victims. They are toast.
http://spanishshilling.blogspot.co.uk/2008_02_01_archive.html
Trip adviser!
7. Re: Merricks Resort – Oh Dear
18 May 2013, 12:52
CPC Worldwide is run by a woman who faces many charges in Spain for running away with 2 million plus euros of ex pats money and is now behind this company. Her real name is Audrey Dixon and she now uses the alias Elizabeth Crozier. Check her out online. This company is meant to be retrieving money fro investors in Harlequin and yet is run by a complete scammer. You investors need to know the truth behind this company. Check her out on google. Former owner of Oasis Spanish Properties. If she ever returns to Spain she faces 11 years in prison.
So easy to change your name but tricky to find out… more to follow.
Yawn
Robert Storey is Sportman on TA
I wonder if he’ll change his yet name again?
Everything being posted about Audrey Dixon “y nombres di negocio”
may be true however isn’t it CPC that has a freezing order on Ames
assets?
Ha ha ha lol just groping in the dark
First Erica , then Steph. Then Angela , then Gareth , then Paul then Nikki , then Chris , add in Jeremy , Ohallran , Wilkins The accountants ………….
Oh toss in the SFO , the government and what do you know ….
Ames is innocent of everything and everyone else is a villan !
Idiotic Crap .
I now realise my previous postings have no relevance to this. I am just a bit stupid really.
Meanwhile expect drunken HP trolls to get back from the pub later and shoot their mouths off on here with disgusting comments.
There you go again BS Bob impersonating another poster and making an ass of yourself. You’ll never admit it, but you’re so crap at it.
No wonder the Nuneaton Police laughed at your complaint.
Yep, looks like you started early then.
I have it on very good authority that the Nuneaton Police passed over the identity of the gutless phone caller, who tried to blame his wife, to Mr Storey. Of course if you require the identity of the caller then contact Mr Storey directly. I’m sure he would share it with you.
It’s just so predictable now , piss flaps , gussets , shit , weight problems , road testing hookers , importing people fraudster a tax dodgers , bent lawyers , bent officials ………..
None of whom ripped off 400 million quid ….THAT IS RESERVED FOR DIRTY DAVE AND KINKY CAROLE ,,…… STILL FUCKING MISS TAMMY FLU ARE YOU .?
Yes, yes, they are all GUILTY.
First Erica , then Steph. Then Angela , then Gareth , then Paul then Nikki , then Chris , add in Jeremy , Ohallran , Wilkins The accountants ………….
GUILTY, of not kissing the toxic turds arse!
No it’s all our fault because we want Buccament Bay as a rest home for Walton he is getting on a bit now.
I just googled the UrbanDictionary…..
“Infactuation —-a stupid way for people to spell infatuation, which is an
actual word, while infatuation is the way an idiot spells infatuation….”
No joke
Freemasons portray themselves as a good charitable fraternity of men. They own the media so they get to say what they want. They have infiltrated all of society. It is nothing less than an international money making scam (same as the crooked pyramid schemes). Did you know that the ninth degree Masons take their vows to kill for Freemasonry ???? some charity. Masons are also the NWO’s foot-soldiers. All secret societies, orders and cults are as one (intertwined) with this evil human virus called “Freemasonry”.
In defence of most Masons, they were conned in the first place. They were led to believe it was a good fraternity of men, then they were hoodwinked and threatened with violence. If they had known this before they joined, nobody would have anywhere near them. Masons are trapped into this extreme evil, they are too scared to talk freely. They have become FM slaves and most have become crooked benefactors.
Freemasons are the invisible terrorists within the local community. They could literally clear up crime in 24 hours with the technology available. We pay for it and they get to abuse it. Did you know that 90% of Taxi
Drivers are Masons. They see, hear and relay all movement and conversation straight back to the Lodge.
Forget worrying about the I.D. cards and eventual Microchip, your mobile phone is your 24/7 electronic tag. They already know your every move and calls since you bought one. Now, don’t get us wrong, we all need security and we do respect the non-Masonic government officials and non-Masonic professional people. Freemasonry is illegal under International Law, Humanitarian Law and Common Sense Law.
Ames promised his mate Gonzo a place in his Lodge in Wickford in return for a passport.
Gonzo got a Masonic passport 🙂
http://fallingmasonry.info/masonic-lords.html
90% of taxi drivers are from Bangladesh. Think they would be allowed in the Masons? Perhaps it’s the Bangladesh lodge?
Lets not leave out the Eastern Star and Amaranth.
Uh oh !!! for a long time now I’ve been getting the ILF part wrong…
Hahahahaha! Ames new photos of his scrap heap plane in the air, is that meant to make everyone happy and joyful ! Hahahahahahahaha! what a sad pathetic fat little prick.
He couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery.
One things for sure is that he monitors this forum and he still can’t get it shut down!
Unlucky Fatty!
A really big thanks for the Pink Money. The irony of Harlequin getting buffoons to sign a “non refundable” pink form is not lost on us. They say, “Harlequin told me is was refundable”. We say, “prove it” . They say, “but that Sonia Stunning told me it was refundable”.
We have 3746 pink forms all signed. Thanks Dave for that and the head start with the SIPPs.
We have made the donation to the Lodge of Fraternity in Birmingham.
So mote it be ..
IF YOU GO TO THE CORPORATE REGISTRY ( CAIPO ) IN BARBADOS AND SEARCH ALL THE FILES WITH THE NAME “HARLEQUIN” YOU WILL FIND WHO THE ATTORNEYS ARE OR WERE.
BEHIND EVERY CRIMINAL CORRUPT SCAM THERE ARE CORRUPT ATTORNEYS WHO FOR FEES WILL SEEK TO LAUNDER THE DIRTY LINEN. YOU WILL ALSO SEE WHO THE DIRECTORS OF HARLEQUIN ARE OR WERE.
THOSE ATTORNEYS HAVE TO KNOW A LOT AND HAVE A LOT OF INFO AVAILABLE FOR THE FRAUD INVESTIGATORS.
LIKEWISE THE AUDITORS IN BARBADOS.
But do you know how to turn off the Caps lock? That would be far more interesting.
So folks, where is the transcript of the DA conference call? Have the folks who were going to send it to the folks at BFP decided that it has no credibility. Have they ” folked off” so to speak.
Many thanks from the Brighton lodge of gayness for the contribution RL
Told you all Masons are perverts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-28691170
Ames is a Freemason, how else could he carry out this operation without inportant contacts?
http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm
Here is your answer;
This is the transcript of a recent telephone conversation. See anyone can do this.
ME: Hi Gareth, hows things going these days.
GF: Very good, just on a bit of a break at the moment so things are a bit quiet.
ME: I need to ask you something Gareth, I paid my 240 quid, but as I’m a cash investor what should I do?
GF:Easy one that. Just send me another £1500 and I will review your situation. No promises though.
(at this stage the phone line is muffled like a hand has been placed over the handset)
GF: No just some mug on the phone wants a chat, Yes Paddy I will have another drink, get one for Paul, I know he’s gagging for it.
GF:Sorry about that, where were we?
ME:So where should I send this other £1500 to?
GF: If you could change it into Euros and post the cash to this address (deleted for security reasons. We would not want any personal details on here would we folks) and then we can arrange an appointment.
ME: OK Gareth. Thanks for the chat, see you soon.
GF: You’re welcome (hand goes over the handset again) Who’s ironing my shirt for tonight?
End of call
Please stop posting my office address on BFP, I’ve had a a constant stream of Eastern Europeans wanting to work in my sex empire.
Yeah anyone can post up a transcript so that’s why we sent the recording along with the transcripts to the papers, just to verify the transcripts,
Now could that be done with the transcript from Gareth ?????
Did you? And what happened to the transcripts being sent to the good folks of BFP. Yes the GF transcripts have been sent to the papers, just like yours have.
Meanwhile, back at home: http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/11395824.Harlequin_fraud_probe_continues/
We provided the documents that we found on the train do yes we are also in the process of making the recordings public, but if Ames is telling the truth in those recordings well then he has nothing to fear.
Indeed his argument is and always has been that he has done nothing wrong and is just a victim in all this.
Ames thinks the law does not apply to him.
You will all get a chance to listen to his ramblings soon and you can all decide for yourselves whether he is telling the truth or not, and soon he will have a chance to tell his story to a judge and jury, will justice be served or will we see a huge miscarriage of justice (at least according to Ames and his Woman) should they be found guilty of criminal acts.
So the Piper is airborne. An unwise choice of registration HAB
Hubristic Ames B*llshit
Hotel Abysmal Buccament
Hairy Antiguan Bucketshop
Reminder Completions on Buccament Bay.
If you intend to complete at Buccament Bay.
It would be to your benefit to check the details with an independant legal lawyer, before you hand over any more funds to Harlequin.
No advice could result in you chucking your money into the Congo.
@ Tesco Tits I love your creativity.
‘ the Problem @6.50. We’ve already had Thanmes and now Congo. Let’s add the Limpopo and even the flipping (inflood) Buccament.
Havoc at Basildon
Humiliation at Buccament (I’m really looking forward to this one)
Do you know what makes me laugh? Everyone he does business with, Ames tries to muzzle them with a non derogatory clause. He might have silenced a few like that, may be 100. But he can’t silence the other 3,900 or so, because he hasn’t anything to trade. The stupid old fool.
Do you think Towelling (not what you’d choose in a solicitor but okay for folding towel animals and cleaning up after dirty dogs…. Do you think he had something to do with the non derogatory clauses? I remember Paul talking about these.
Pathetic little short legs can’t even choose a rottweiler..
Hopelessly Awful Businessman
Hellfire and Brimstone !!!
Hey, Another Bankruptcy
Hamburgers Again Bob?
Buccament Bay will soon be ours.
Harlequin in the Caribbean is finished..Buccament Bay and Blue will continue to dribble along until they too run out of funds, but there will be no more building going on…at all.
Yeah right. Airport near to finishing, BB building work will restart with new finance. Do you really thing the SVG government will let it fail? HAB = happy again boys.
@ Anonymous 4.01 Has the SVG government got £400 million spare? If so, it’s time their bl**dy aid was stopped.
When Cubana de Aviacion becomes the first (and only) airline
to fly into SVG Intnl Arpt perhaps comrade Ralph could get comrade
Raul to start using BB as a camp for the Young Pioneers.
Hardly Accurate Businessmodel.
Explain it to the regulator Dave.
Never mind Luggage In Another Terminal, if you ran that airline it could be called Lies In All Transactions
@Anonymous 4.01pm(AKA Bob Storey) the Govt of SVG is broke..The airport is costing over US$600 million , more than double the stated original amount, and it won`t be ready in 2015. Venezuelan aid has dried up, so the Cuban workers can`t get paid.The SVG Govt will be unable to prevent what will happen at BB next.
And Bob, this new financing that is several years in the works…..has DA provided anymore than just the usual promises? Don`t think so.
From Harlequin Newsletter , Sept 2012……However, at this time I am
pleased to confirm that we have a Letter of Intent from one financial institution that is offering to fund the cost of building a new hotel for Harlequin to operate, and another lender that is on the verge of offering us finance to build in the Dominican Republic
imagine being in the fs industry whether tied / ifa etc and warning the fca regarding this investment as far back as 2008 and from them on. i know there have been numerous advisers who refused to promote/sell this that warned the regulators and NOW if the SIPP redress route is successful all then end up footing the bill whilst the main agents/companies who have profited big time have ceased trading walk away?? think there may be some very hard questions asked ??
@Anon (aka a prat) and there is an election comming up. Planes will be landing in 2015. HP have had no need to build the rest of BB, but now they have. Why do you always think it is Mr Storey who is posting on here? Other posters have opinions you know. Or perhaps you don’t.
Dave met with the FSCS and they love his business model, ever support his Trust.
Harlequin Abject Breakdown
Hypocritical Ames Badfaith
Anon @9.06pm…unmistakably Bob Storey..There is just a way you express yourself that gives it away..you don`t have to put your name “on here”
BTW, dont you have spellcheck on your toilet i pad?
Be a nice boy Bob and go to sleep.
Comming…
A common misspelling of a word that seems so easy to spell that it hurts your brain when it’s actually misspelled in this fashion. Even if you sounded out the word “coming” phonetically, to try and spell it, you would not get anything resembling “comming.”
Can be found most often on internet message boards and “Comments” sections.
The statement that “HP had no need to build the rest of BB but now they have” is such a stupid statement that only BS could have made it.
They sure had the need to build the rest of BB, because hundreds of Investors have contracts that state that they would build a resort of a certain size, and by a certain date….Problem is, as we all know, they simply ran out of building funds as soon as new investors stopped putting deposits down, and they have been incapable of attracting any Bank to finance their building dreams.
Seriously folks ! Name a bank that WOULD finance a Ponzi Scheme…
Harlequin’s Apocryphal Bank
Seriously folks ! Name a bank that WOULD finance a Ponzi Scheme…
JP Morgan Chase
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/07/jpmorgan-settles-with-federal-authorities-in-madoff-case/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
Wow someone who swallowed the Urban Dictionary! It’s an Internet forum, prat, not an English lesson. Now go and do something useful and spank a small boy. That’s what all bully’s do.
I know what you mean Anonymous 6.44am, that Robert Storey is one minute complaining about being picked up on his poor understanding of the English language, and the next minute posting comments like these, its not a surprise he has zero credibility.
June 14, 2014 at 5:04 pm
Well your English hasn’t improved has it. I have all the security I need, but why are you still on here if you have had a refund. Once a troll always a troll with your “big man” threats.
That has got to be one of the worst posts for spelling and grammar seen on here for a long time. And it’s Aldi not Lidl dick head.
June 19, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Who is Bob Storey? It’s better grammar than “or as Think of him” What sort of stupid sentence is that? Get back to school.
Robert Storey
June 22, 2014 at 4:38 pm
And you may want to review your use of the apostrophe. Put down your Guardian newspaper, stop thinking about your prep school matron and concentrate on adding something to the thread. Perhaps being spanked as a child contributed to your life as a useless troll.
Update from RL this morning:
All,
Video Update – 1st August 2014
We would ask all investors to review our video update of the 1st August 2014. We have made it very clear that we are ready to negotiate an amendment to the current Harlequin proposal which would help accommodate the majority of investors.
Alongside those who have simply signed up for the 5 year waiver, there are 3 other groups that will not sign up. Namely :-
1. Those investors with litigation with Harlequin. We estimate around 100 people.
2. Those investors seeking repayments, but not in litigation. We estimate around 3000 people.
3. Those investors who have handed over more money for completions, which have not occurred.
None of these groups have any incentive to sign a 5 year waiver. Logically, this caps the Harlequin sign up population to a maximum of 2000 people out of 6000 people.
No financier will touch Harlequin with new money until this situation is resolved. The trust as currently proposed has had no assets transferred to it. Therefore, those who have signed, have in real terms got no more security than anyone else. What they do have is a clause preventing them from taking part in any future negotiations.
We know that Harlequin Management Services (South East) Limited will more than likely exit administration and be placed into liquidation in late November / early December 2014. We do not see how Shipleys can propose a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) without any financed business plan.
We have explained to Harlequin that they need to deal with the above groups to give themselves a chance. To date, the unilateral approach has not yielded the returns they need. A great deal of effort has been put into “selling” the trust proposal to investors.
Our advice to all those in groups (1-3) is to sign nothing and to wait. Negotiations will have to happen to make the proposal more palatable to those who are currently refusing to sign. Harlequin know exactly how we would re-shape their proposal.
We are more than happy to stand back and allow Harlequin to seek to convince everyone. However, at some point, they will have to admit that they cannot go it alone. Let us hope that Harlequin realise this prior to it being too late.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
The Reg Legal forum is now open
@anon e mouse. Bit of a stalker aren’t you. It’s nothing to do with poor understanding of the English language. This is an Internet forum not a frigging English class. Nothing to say so let’s talk about English shall we. Pathetic.
@Where is my matron?
Only some thicko like Ingham or Storey would write such drivel. You’re both pathetic keyboard warriors.
@ Phil Martin was right 5.56 Thanks for the link. nice comment about it being bankers who commit crimes, not banks. I wonder if the turquoise bank might find itself in the same position…..
Ha ha ha ha lol. “Some thicko? ” It’s pot calling the kettle you moron. That’s the expression. Lol. Now but this post in your little black stalkers book for future reference. Ha ha ha ha lol.
I wonder if Shane Kelliher in Australia realises what he has married into? I wonder if he realises how the mother of his children has helped herself to other peoples savings? How many thousands she has helped ruin? And at least one of them claims to live in Oz.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1132954/Strewth-Georgea-Shane-Aussie-cattleman-strikes-English-beauty-came-stay.html
Robert Storey is so easy to spot, excessive use of the word troll, stalker and most worrying of all…. spanking boys.
He doesn’t like his English to be criticized, but regularly criticizes others,
Its amazing how much time and energy one man can devote to writing drivel and getting into petty squabbles, but the question is why ?
Money ? personality disorder ? No friends ? No life ?
@Anon e mouse. You have just described yourself in the post above. It’s called the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK? in your case, no brain. You think you are having a spat with Mr Storey, how wrong you are. Hahaha.
Richard only you and bob the nob care about spelling or fatness
Its you or it’s you ?
It’s so easy to spot the fucking halfwits, one is obsessed by Erica, the other is just obsessed,
you tried to give me an English lesson and completely fucked it up,
I used the American spelling of the word criticize, If you look again, you will see your mistake, you couldn’t even copy my spelling correctly. what a dumb fuck.
i haven’t laughed so much since I heard Ingham didn’t have the intelligence to get around an IP ban,
Anon e mouse (aka Billy no mates) just do one. No one is interested in your crap spelling lessons, especially when you show yourself up as an expert but keep getting the basics wrong. Now mouse just crawl back into your little hole and nibble a bit of cheese.
Anyway mouse, what do you think about the transcripts of the DA conference call? You have seen them on here? No? Nor me either. They must still be sitting on that train waiting to be “found”
No, they are with the authorities – it serves no purpose to post on here.
I made a query to the FSCS directly about the allegations that Ames said they “support” his trust. Here is what they said:
“At this stage, I can confirm that FSCS has not given any advice to claimants on whether or not they should join the “Harlequin Trust” group. Neither does FSCS have a view on the merits of the group. Furthermore, prior to FSCS being able to confirm its position in respect of claims relating to Harlequin, we do not consider it appropriate to speculate about the potential implications of investors joining the “Harlequin Trust” group, or how that might impact upon any future claim submitted to FSCS.”
The position seems clear – they neither condone, nor deplore, the Harlequin trust. So if it’s true that Ames said they “support” his trust, he is seriously [fraud office] mistaken.
Bob, quick they are saying things about Dave on the nasty RL forum.
Financial Services Compensation Scheme
What the FSCA covers:
http://www.fscs.org.uk/what-we-cover/
@KST “it serves no purpose to post (them) on here” oh you have to be kidding me. The good “Folks” on BFP told you to naff off have they? I think we all smell a rat with this one. Don’t we “folks”
Remember the older posts?
Harleconned
March 3, 2013 at 5:57 pm
I hope carter-ruck get what they deserve too, after protecting this Ponzi scheme for so long. They should hang their heads in shame. We will stand together and fight for what is ours!!
That would depend, would it not, who recorded the call? Maybe the ‘authorities’ where in on the call? The security was pretty poor, have a number and a code, away you go.
It’s a bit dim saying things you know can be checked. You look like a liar and a fool.
Strange his legal team keep away from them?
@UK Citizen 5thAug 1.40, a copy of the transcript is winging its way to the good folks at BFP
5th Aug 2.09 A copy of the transcript is on it’s way to the Echo and IFA Online.
Very strange for 3 of the most vocal publications to be so quiet about a scoop dropping in the laps. What’s the saying ” never try and bullshit a bullshiter”
You have been found out well and proper.
It’s good and proper Bob.
Good and proper/well and proper. The result is exactly the same. Purely semantics.
@ Perhaps recording a phone call wasn’t such a good idea.
August 11, 2014 at 3:12 pm
Oh boy was it a good idea, it was an excellent idea, and who says they are quiet???? Lets see shall we,
Bullshit a bullshitter, love it, Yeah we know Ames is a bullshitter, but lets see who is calling who’s bluff.
Yes let’s. Not like IFA online or the Echo to pass on a bit of juicy info is it?
@anon, before the English teacher prat comes along, only 1 t in bullshiter.
The gob shite deserves what he gets, just like Ingham.
People in glass houses and all that shit..
Either one of them would run a mile if confronted by a real person. totally a waste of skin.
Bob’s not a poor pensioner, he is making a nice income from his Buccament Bay investment !!! It’s the other 6000 investors that are poor(er)
Name the place keyboard coward
@suaddbh, why not give Mr Storey a call, his tel no is on here. I’m sure he would love to meet you. Of course you will shrivel into the background just like the other trolls.
It won’t happen, he will skulk back under his stone.
@ Perhaps recording phone call wasn’t such a good idea 3.44. You’re revealing your transatlantic roots. On this side of the pond, well is an adverb (unless it’s a hole in the ground full of water) and good is an adjective. So that makes well another word for a flooded BB cabana!! ha ha.
@ “Perhaps recording a phone call wasn’t such a good idea.
August 11, 2014 at 4:34 pm
Yes let’s. Not like IFA online or the Echo to pass on a bit of juicy info is it?
@anon, before the English teacher prat comes along, only 1 t in bullshiter.”
Ah Sorry but it is “BULLSHITTER”
dictionary.reference.com/browse/bullshitter
But heh who cares, the right people have the recordings and that is what counts. 🙂 🙂 🙂
Just got something stuck on the bottom of my shoe. Wait it’s the “shrivel up and die” keyboard warrior. Guess he shrivelled up and died. Bless
@ Warthogs over Wickford. Warties, where are you?
There’s a nasty piece in Benfleet been harrassing investors with unwanted phone calls.
Get out the A10s and let’s go turd bomb him!!
Hastily Aimed Bombs
Are we in the eye of the storm? Is all hell about to break loose?
Well Bertha’s passed, so perhaps the next will be CAROL. Then we could break the gender convention and insert DAVE between a couple of women.
There is a cohesive plan to bring Harlequin down. Where do you think Fatchet has been? Why do you think the forum is back up?
Hardly Any Bumspace.
Wherever he’s been the poor muppets who paid £240 paid for it.
GF has been to a music festival. Time for some Harlequin Karaoke. THEY are singing the words, especially the ones that start Whooppee!
Been so long since i was on here, I forgot how to put in the music for Harlequin to sing
@ Anonymous 11.25. You need to get out more. £240 hardly buys a festival ticket these days.
No but £1m gets you a front row seat.
Harlequin Air flight pricing http://www.bvisail.com/destinations/caribbean-yacht-rentals/st-vincent-and-the-grenadines-yacht-charters/new-air-service-st-vincent/
It can take seven people at a time. If BB were full, I can’t see how this crop duster would be able to transfer all the guests who need it, even with a very long working day.
Anonymous August 12, 2014 at 11:25 am
aka Bob Storey the Stooge
Whatever, Bob ‘the poor muppets’ the ones you so facetiously sneer at paid £400m+ plus to Dave Ames for erm… nothing to show.
It will only be a fil in until the new airport comes on stream. Then it might be used for guests to visit other islands by charter
@ WoW
Oh come on. A seven seater could bring all the guests in one trip if the occupancy rates mentioned on TripAdvsior are accurate.
I think you will find that Mr Storey is sneering at the “poor muppets” who paid RL for erm….nothing to show. Some who have reported RL to the SFO, local police and the SRA.
@ Anonymous 13.30
That’s the fabled new airport that won’t open until next year (maybe), that’s years behind schedule and millions over budget? The one that BA and Virgin have yet to commit to using? And even if they do agree, can St Vincent afford the subsidies that the airlines will demand?
Even if guests headed for BB do get to come over on scheduled jets, there’s then an even longer transfer time from the new airport to BB, over increasingly shitty roads. Welcome to paradise!
You’ll have to do better than that Bob.
you are posting nonsense
I suspect there are a lot of SIPP operators who are in need of a change of underwear after the latest Dear CEO letter to them from the FCA: http://www.fca.org.uk/static/documents/dear-ceo-letters/dear-ceo-letter-sipp-operators.pdf
The section outlining due diligence requirements is interesting. I doubt very much if any of the SIPP operators who accepted Harlequin as an investment will be able to satisfy these requirements. They aren’t new – the FSA carried out several “thematic reviews” on SIPP providers and highlighted many of the same problems.
“It can take seven people at a time. If BB were full, I can’t see how this crop duster would be able to transfer all the guests who need it, even with a very long working day.”
It can’t and it won’t be able to transfer all of the guests conveniently. One load will enjoy a quick transfer but everyone else using it will spend hours in terminals – possibly longer than they currently have to wait with LIAT. The maths on the timing has been done several times before – look it up in past threads if you don’t believe me.
“It will only be a fil (sic) in until the new airport comes on stream. Then it might be used for guests to visit other islands by charter”
Except that even if the Argyle airport does open mid 2015 there will still be no crosswind runway and aircraft of this size will frequently be unable to operate in the prevailing conditions.
As I’ve said before, it is pure window dressing, trying to take the spotlight off the underlying problems. If this was really the solution to the transfer problems why did Harlequin not continue with SVG Air Alliance who were capable of handling the volume of traffic and charge a not unreasonable $280 return from Barbados? Undercutting that price with an aircraft with less than half the capacity of a Twin Otter will never be profitable – just like every other aspect of Harlequin’s operations!
@WoW if the generations of humans had taken your view we would all be living in caves. Half full or half empty ? Problems or challenges? Going forward or staying where we are? A good job our leader has a vision, and not the view of someone who flies an A10 in the UK.
@ The views of non St Vincentians are not important
Unless the glass is in a vacuum, it’s always full.
Comrade Ralph is now taking on the mantle of the Great Visionary? How wonderful. Still, he no doubt did extensive due diligence on Dave Ames before giving him a Vincy passport. That due dil being counting used US$100 notes.
It looks likely that Harlequins Trust will fail due to lack of numbers.
“That DD being counting used US$100 notes” unsubstantiated and not proved. Unless you have other information? Nah doubt it.
“The views of non St Vincentians are not important” – I beg to differ, if SVG wants ethical, sustainable and responsible inward investment then I would suggest that non Vincentian’s opinions are indeed worth considering. Vision is all very well, but not enough in itself – dangerously close to the ‘Build it and they will come’ delusion if not backed up with competent delivery of ongoing projects.
Has anyone else noticed how much the Comrade (Ralph) resembles
Tim Curry as Dr Fran-N-Furter?
Oooops — Frank-N-Furter
No, he looks more like Mrs.Ames!!!!
Check the website @WoW put up
“Sports are limited, subject to availability……….”
How true that little spelling is mistake?
*How true is that little spelling mistake?
@ Warthogs 3.23. Hi Warties. I knew I could rely on your return when we needed your expertise on this thread.
The booking firm for the new air service has a US freephone number and quotes a departure tax of $20 Which $s? As I recall the departure tax from SVG is EC$ 40, which is about £8-10 sterling.
If $20 is EC, it doesn’t seem enough to give the SVG government their standard charge. If the $20 is US, that is more like £14 sterling, so who gets the extra?
Sports are limited. Well I’m not interested in parachute jumping over water thanks. Too much tangling. Aerobatics? Ooooh, yes please!!! But I’m not sure the other 6 passengers would want to endure my squashed loops, specially with all their suitcases rattling around in the back. It would certainly add a new dimension to pre-aerobatic flight checks (better add sick bags for the passengers).
Remember the pilots have instructors ratings, so it’s all perfectly safe. Except that the chieftains were really designed for private/charter passenger carrying and I’m not sure the Piper wouldn’t clap her hands, over her head if you pulled a bit too much g. (Aka pulling the wings off.)
Funny that HAB could wind up giving LIAT a good name…if only
by comparison.
Rumour has it that the highly talented Madame Eloise Gonsalves
will be doing the interiors. Lotsa wicker evoking the old PanAm
flying boats from Key West to Havana.
Even if 7 passengers get transfers from Barbados, where does the luggage fit? Another flight?
Yat- In their laps…
@shrivel up and die, did just that. What a gutless twat!
Anonymous 6.49
Have Anyone’s Baggage
@ Yatinkit 7.05. Luggage on another flight happens already. A many houred wait.
@ Anonymous 7.27. Probably just one; the extra space is taken up with tanks of spray muck.. Just sit her well forward, to keep a stable C of G.
First the SFO say that they are still investigating Harlequin and now the FSCS say that Ames’s claims that everything is hunky-dory are balls. The lying turd has been caught yet again.
http://www.fscs.org.uk/news/2014/august/fscs-updates-on-investments-in-3ik7yxf1r/
Strange how IFA online have no report yet regarding the “recorded telephone conversation” Not like Laura Miller to pass up on a HP scoop. There again nothing has been reported about HP for over a year. Has LM and GF stopped talking?
@Idiots.
Well Bob and Richard what does it feel like to know your cash investment is going down the crapper?
Have a nice day 😉
Why don’t you pop over to the RL forum, but you can’t be nasty that would mean we would know who you are 😉
It looks like Ames has caused himself problems with his big gob, love it.
I bet all those recordings have got into the hands of the people who matter.
It looks like Ames was talking porkies about Shipleys as well.
From: Anthony Davidson
Date: 04/08/2014 11:30:34
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Cc: Steve Ryman
Subject: Harlequin Management Services (South East) Limited in Administration
Hi xxxxxxxxxxxx,
I am writing further to your e-mail to Steve Ryman, regarding the above named Company.
I am unsure what you are referring to when you make reference to an extension being afforded to Mr Ames.
The Administrators have, following consent from the creditors, extended the Administration. This has only been done once, for a period of six months from 3 May 2014. The purposes of this extension is to complete further work as Administrator prior to implementing an exit route from Administration and was not something that was granted to Mr Ames.
If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact me.
Kind regards
Anthony Davidson | Principal
For and on behalf of
Shipleys LLP | 10 Orange Street, Haymarket, London, WC2H 7DQ
@Fatty Worshipper; do you laugh at everybody that loses their cash, including yourself? I think everybody realised a long time ago the thing is fucked, why would it dawn on anyone today?
I think you need to be a client of RL to post on their forum, I don’t think Storey is?
If Ingham posts on RL then it will be him but its not him posting on here because he has been banned by BFP
PS; Wheres shrivel Dick? Did you give him Inghams email address?
What are you talking about Anonymous at 9:38 am aka BS Bob Storey? Laura Miller reported only this morning the latest bad news about Harlequin.
FSCS still looking into Harlequin compensation claims
Professional Adviser | 13 Aug 2014 | 10:36
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2360065/fscs-still-looking-into-harlequin-compensation-claims
Oh Dave, you are quoted saying that the FSCS said you must join the Trust! 😉
Looks to me like they are in cahoots, with the Irish builder, WK, the SFO, Fatchet, Walton, Nikki Crozier, Jon Austin,Panorama. Erica Broughton, the Essex police, and of course the Freemasons.
This is truly terrible.
UK Citizen (aka bullshitter) clearly said the recorded telephone conversation was passed to IFA online along with others. Where is it?
It would be advisable for every investor who has joined the Harlequin Trust,
to contact Anthony Davidson at Shipleys LLP and ask what will be the
position of Harlequin on the 3rd November 2014.
The address is;
Anthony Davidson,
Shipleys LLP,
Administrators of Harlequin,
10 Orange street,
Haymarket,
London.
WCSH7DQ
Why, he won’t know until the 3rd Nov. if he knew now he would say so. Do you know anything about insolvency?
Why would anyone want to go onto the RL forum? A bunch of cry babies, looking for someone to blame, being stoked up by Paul Walton hysterical rantings. Much more balanced views on here!
@ Anon 3:37pm
BS Bob, we thought you knew a lot about insolvency.
@ Anonymous 3.55. A spot of irony. Wandering Australia where Nicola Kelliher nee Ames lives has as its motto veritatis simplex oratio est
I wonder if that is why members of her family tie themselves into such knots, when they speak.
The Minister of tourism fo SVG, Ces Makie, says that hotel space is one of the greatest challenges as the airport is expected to increase visitor arrivals. Of course some would say that the airport will not increase the numbers coming to SVG. But there again what would the minister of tourism know.
A bunch of cry babies on the RK, forum or possibly investors who are not so stupid to believe Ames is a lying toxic turd?
Unless you are being paid to support and disrupt, like bullshit Bob or IVA Ingham – you must be a thick as a plank to believe a word the lying little turd says.
Paul Walton, has proved yet again, Ames is a compulsive liar. The authorities will also no doubt know this and have a recording of his lies.
Ames is damaging himself because he is mentally defective – such irony.
@Anonymous 4.19 pm……you forgot this bit of remarkable bullshit from the same Minister, during the tour of the airport….
“We expect that we would have a number of airlines that would begin flying into St. Vincent and the Grenadines when the facility is commissioned. We don’t have the exact names as yet, that discussion is continuing and to see what type of arrangement, because, of course, there are different types of arrangements that can be arrived at,” Minister of Tourism Cecil “Ces” McKie told the media on Thursday, after Cabinet toured the airport, which is scheduled to be completed by year end
.
In other words…”We really don`t have a clue as to what airline is including St Vincent in their plans for 2015. We know for sure that Cubana airlines will be there, as well as Harlequin Air, but unless Ames builds those thousand rooms that he promised, we are screwed!
@ Anonymous 5.21 I hope they are sitting on an expensive airport no one wants to fly to. Then they’ll learn the price of making special deals with an archturd.
Or opens up phase 2. The majority which is built, just need finishing off. So long as the drains are connected that is.
The FT are now joining in and telling porkies about Dave, this is terrible… he seemed such a very nice chap.
http://www.ftadviser.com/2014/08/12/regulation/fscs-update-on-harlequin-hotel-and-resorts-6ZIJobcXOyNiBSjyvXxdAL/article.html
@Anonymous 17.32
What exactly is in Phase 2? Has Harlequin announced this? I ask as, if it’s the balance of the units that have been sold, there are some problems:
(a) To finish off the part-build apartment block (Block 3 as it’s known), Harlequin would need to understand how it’s built – that is, how the thing was engineered. The Irish builder used some weird form of concrete, if I recall correctly. It’s not going to be easy for a new builder to complete it if they don’t know what loading the walls and foundations can take.
(b) the big slab near the beach was supposed to be used for the Waterfront Hotel building (I think that’s what it was called). Again, the Irish builder built this so the same problems that apply to Block 3 also apply here.
(c) From the photos of the part-built villas, little or no maintenance has been done on them in the last few years. They have started rotting. It may well be cheaper to demolish them and start again than to carry out repairs and remedial works.
(d) Harlequin sold around 1,900 units at BB. To build all those out will need more land to be bought, at least another three apartment blocks built (as per the original plans) and, presumably, one hell of a lot of new infrastructure.
Can you see any problem with having such a large number of units and such a small beach? It’s going to be rather crowded if it’s ever built and occupied at a reasonable level. Not that I suspect for one moment that will happen.
Ames was given just enough time and rope to hang himself, this was always the plan.
He had an option to be reasonable, he refused. Now he will be taken down, bit by by and end up in jail along with the other family members.
All,
http://www.fscs.org.uk/news/2014/august/fscs-updates-on-investments-in-3ik7yxf1r/
The update from the FSCS in the last few days was written in the usual civil service non-committal style. However, you do not need to be a genius to read between the lines.
The obvious position from the FSCS would have been to confirm that joining the Harlequin proposed trust would not affect any redress claim. They have not done this and have left the door open to deal with investors who have signed up for the Harlequin Investor Trust differently. That is not to say they will. Just be cautious.
FSCS recommend taking independent legal advice. Currently, we have an unholy alliance of ex agents, Harlequin staff and PHIG telling everyone to “sign up – now!”. None of this group is insured or authorised to provide legal or regulated financial advice.
Wait until the position becomes clear. If, in the future Harlequin no longer exists and you have signed up on the advice of them, you have only have yourself to blame. We doubt the advisers / PHIG will be here to clear up the secondary mess.
Regulatory Legal Solicitors
The beach is full of dog shit and locals. No guests venture there.
It all really is irrelevant.
The real question Is Harlequin trading illegally, being insolvent an all. 😉
@ DA,CA,MA all business failures 5.56. I really hope you know what you’re talking about and this isn’t just wishful thinking.
@ WTBSSqBMT. Can it be demonstrated that the new company HHR has been trading illegally, insolvently? If so, great!!!
If Erica wants a skid mark cleaning business, each female agent and employee has a pair of grubby thighs. Skid marks made by their disgusting wick dippers. Personally, I’d rather clean ovens in a mobile kebab shop and if Erica wants the contract, she should insist on masks, flame guns and asbestos mittens, before she touches anything polluted.
Economic citizenship, Dave Ames and bribery – the allegations continue to haunt Dr Gonsalves. http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v7/wn/newsworld.php?id=1060011
This can’t be true because Dave said the FSCS said we all must join the Trust.
http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/news/fscs-to-investigate-harlequin-compensation-claims/a767145?ref=new-model-adviser-latest-news-list
Someone is gilding the lilly.
@ Warthogs over Wickford, 6.44. Morning Warties, you’re up early. Going somewhere nice?
It’s quite okay that Dr Gonsalves appears to have conflicting policies relating to economic citizenship, because his voters will express what they want when the time is right for them.
I think businessmen have been “done ” in English courts for bribery overseas. I wonder if Dave Ames has crossed a significant threshold here?
A very compelling case has been sent to all the authorities etc. to ensure certain individuals don’t get a special deal for causing disruption.
Just imagine, if a pro Ames supporter(s) got a special deal and it were to be declared null and void by a liquidator?
After paying all those taxes….tut tut. 😉
I don’t think for one moment Mr. Ames would offer something like that do you?
Bye for now xxx
Toodle pip
@ Poo Bay 9.55. Thanks for the link. If you scroll it about 3/4 of the way down, there is a list of links torelated articles on the right hand side. One of them is about the Irish builder, who the judge said helped himself to £1m!!!!!
What an amateur!!! – the Ames family helped themselves to over 200 times as much, may be more.
With such tight financial controls and systems in place by the international man of misery …. Mr Ames – who could blame him!!
When in Rome.
@ Roygbiv
The Panorama team obviously thought there was enough in the story to try to “doorstep” Gonsalves and Ames. I’d guess they must have had some credible evidence to get to that stage seeing as how risk-averse BBC journalism is these days.
@ Redefining Ruff Trade
I wonder how much of that £1.4m awarded by the court Ames has recovered? Didn’t he promise to put all of the proceeds back in to the business?
The bit that I find odd is that he thought it was a sensible thing to spend over £6 million to get that award. If he hasn’t tried to enforce it it makes me wonder just what the hell he was playing at – other than trying to gull his investors again with his nutty conspiracy theories.
Just a distraction from the the main thing. What sort of idiot spends £6 million to recover nothing???
Errrrmm Dave Ames?
The £6m was part of the bigger picture, sprat and mackerel come to mind. THe bigger prize is WK. The winning of the Irish case has laid the foundations for the WK claim.
Yes doorstepping a PM of SVG now that was very clever. As the article quoted above states that many countries such as the US and Canada “sell” citizenship. Even the UK does it. So IF SVG did it, which is denied, then so what.
My God BS Bob you are SO ignorant about local politics.
BS Bob, is just ignorant full stop!
What do you recon about the FSCS lying 😉 about your boss?
Harlequin chairman David Ames is misleading investors into thinking the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) backs a controversial trust he is trying to use to rescue his troubled overseas property scheme – a claim the FSCS denies – information obtained from separate sources suggests.
In a conference call with about 70 Harlequin investors on 31 July, Ames said he and his legal team had met with the FSCS, that it supports the Harlequin trust, and that investors must join it or risk missing out on compensation, according to two sources who were in on the call, including one who kept a transcript.
But when these claims were put to the FSCS, the consumer redress body said it had not advised any claimants on whether or not to join the Harlequin trust group.
If there is a group of people who attack Harlequin we will see them in court, we have never lost a case
It added it does not have a view on the merits of the group, and prior to it being able to confirm its position in respect of claims relating to Harlequin, does not consider it appropriate to speculate about the potential implications of investors joining the trust or how that might impact upon any future claim submitted to FSCS.
A spokesperson for Harlequin suggested Ames’s comments were taken “out of context”.
But excerpts from the transcript of Ames’ call with investors – obtained by Professional Adviser – suggest the Harlequin chairman is attempting to cajole investors who ploughed £400m into Harlequin into joining his trust.
The trust demands that those who sign up waive their right to sue Ames or Harlequin, as well as wait at least another five years in the hope of seeing some of their money returned.
‘The FSCS said you must sign up’
“What I did with my legal team, we went to see the FSCS which handle the redress claim..” the sources claim Ames said. He goes on to say: “[The FSCS] said that even if you’re going through a redress claim you must sign up to a trust.”
And later: “The FSCS made it very clear…you should join because you are then a secured investor, they say it is in your interest to sign up to the trust.”
Ames’ also suggests that investors who put money into Harlequin prior to 2010, whether via a self-invested personal pension (SIPP) or cash, have no right to any compensation at all, telling them he will “see them in court”.
According to the transcript, he states: “Let me tell any SIPP or cash [investors] who bought prior to July 2010 will not get their money back, even if there is a group of people who attack Harlequin we will see them in court, we have never lost a case in court we do everything right so imagine if you have three people who want their money back and 3,500 in a trust you know the judge is going to say your interests are best served by joining the trust.”
He goes on to say: “I asked [the FSCS] about cash investors and they said no [compensation] unless you can prove bad advice as a SIPP investor”.
Ames also claims that two unnamed SIPP companies have agreed to endorse investing in Harlequin. “We are extremely confident that two SIPP providers have already agreed and we got a meeting with them and they said that they would sign up to the trust,” he told investors.
Shocked
One investor who was on the call told Professional Adviser he was shocked by Ames’ claims.
Paul Walton, the company director of an export business who invested £112,000 in Harlequin via his Lifetime SIPP, has written to both the FSCS and the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) – who are investigating Harlequin – following the call to raise his concerns.
The transcript of the call was taken by a different investor, who did not want to be named.
A spokesperson for Harlequin said: “Harlequin has continued to update investors individually and collectively about the current situation regarding all of its companies.
“It is disappointed to learn that private conference calls intended only for investors appear to have been recorded with the sole purpose of taking comments made in good faith by our senior staff out of context.
“Harlequin is happy to advise all of its investors to read the following update from FSCS dated 12th August 2014 to clarify any misconceptions.
“That statement from the FSCS says: “Until FSCS has reached a decision on whether it can accept claims for compensation in relation to Harlequin, it is not able to comment on any implications for investors of signing up to the “Harlequin Investor Trust” for any claim they may make with FSCS.
“Furthermore, we cannot advise or comment on whether investors should sign up to such an arrangement. We suggest that investors consider taking independent legal or professional advice before signing up to the “Harlequin Investor Trust”, to ensure they understand any potential implications for any claim that may be made with FSCS now or in the future.”
Harlequin has been the subject of three regulatory warnngs since January 2013, as well as being under investigation by Essex Police and the SFO, which has also requested the details of advisers who recommended it.
Read the link.
How can the statement be taken out of context baffles me.
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2360319/revealed-harlequin-boss-misleads-investors-about-fscs-support-for-troubled-trust
So the full transcript still not posted on BFP. Why is that then? And shouldn’t it read “Paul Walton, the EX company director?”
“@ Anonymous aka Bob Storey
August 13, 2014 at 9:38 am
Strange how IFA online have no report yet regarding the “recorded telephone conversation” Not like Laura Miller to pass up on a HP scoop. There again nothing has been reported about HP for over a year. Has LM and GF stopped talking?”
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2360319/revealed-harlequin-boss-misleads-investors-about-fscs-support-for-troubled-trust
Oh and the above feature was written by none other than award winning journalist Laura Miller. And reported on both Twitter feeds from RL and LM today.
Basildon Echo seems to be very quiet on the transcripts also. Won’t touch them with a barge pole perhaps?
….. “the end is nigh ! “
Why is RL tweeting “rumour is that General manager at BB has left” ? Care to elaborate RL like which general manager. What the f**k has it got to do with RL? How low can you stoop Fatchett.
All part of the due diligence Bob. BB can’t seem to keep any of its senior management or professional staff. Now why should that be?
The curious thing about the Harlequin response is that it doesn’t say that Ames has been misquoted, just that the quotes are taken out of context. I wonder what context would be required to make the lies and threats right? Oh, there isn’t one, is there? The bullying, lying thug continues to ooze his poison.
Not that anyone is that interested, Anonymous August 14, 2014 at 12:44 pm, but I am a company director in the UK and of a few companies not in the UK.
I even pay tax in America!
Very damaging transcripts, the SFO have them and the recording.
Dammed.
Harlequin Trust.
David Ames does not have sufficient investor numbers to move his Trust forward.Therefore his Trust will fail.
There are several government bodies who are starting to see how Harlequin operates.
Will David Ames change direction?
Imagine if the CIB had a look at HMSSE, that may put a little pressure on Shiplys?
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/cib/index.htm
@ Shipleys all ship shape? 2:21pm
What are you implying? Speak up man…
Oops looks like the old Company Director web site needs updating then. Care to clarify the UK inaccuracies?
@Anon 14.18. Not so long ago it was reported a GM had left BB. But when this claim was investigated the person in question did not appear to even work for HP at BB. So if RL want to be taken seriously with their DD then rather than writing silly comments then they should expect their claims to be challenged. So who was the GM who has left?
Then you must be the most honest pimp on the planet PW!
@ Facts not speculation RL (you sound sooo like Bob BS)
So who was the GM who has left?
Oh, I know. It was that bully boy Matt Ames, his screeching wife and their intimidating nasty kids.
In other words you don’t know do you.
http://companycheck.co.uk/director/912432306/MR-ANTHONY-PAUL-WALTON
Just having a little fun with you Bobbykins
Bob, you daft old twat.
I don’t care if Paul is a pimp, a pervert or a director at least he has stood up to this little robbing little shit – well done!!!
I hope the SFO arrest Ames and his whole family.
You are a pathetic vindictive nasty little man.
Now you start spouting off about RL and a GM who gives a flaying F**k?
I really hope you lose all your f*cking money you old pissy smelling old man.
@ Shipleys shipshape2.21. Thanks for the link, especially that the CIB “delivers free and fair markets”. I wonder what they are going to think about special treatment baggy old c*nt gave her cronies.
@ BB loses managers LR+C. I’m so glad he has a screaching wife. Looks as if someone is at last getting what he deserves.
By the way, how many shrivelled dicks does it take to make one real man? I know 4 isn’t enough – father, couple of sons and a son in law can’t cut the mustard.
@looks like a director to me. Twat, wrong Walton.
Shane Nicola Kelliher Wandering Australia How about a bit of Karaoke?
If you have a suspicious mind, ask where Nicola’s money came from???
This tune, which I thought you’d enjoy cannot be embedded here, so just close the gap in the URL, when you paste it.
htt p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb0Jmy-JYbA
More lies about Harlequin 😉
http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/news/fscs-to-investigate-harlequin-compensation-claims/a767145?ref=new-model-adviser-latest-news-list
Surly this is enough to finish Harlequin off? It’s become a joke now.
It would be very interesting indeed if we were to raise the profile of HMSSE to the CIB.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/complaintformcib.htm
Richard, what you fail to realise, there is network of investors who speak via a secure site whereby documents and plans are freely shared.
Within this group are people who worked for Harlequin,the authorities, some are just investors, but we are many.
Let’s call them :’The Jesters’
This information is compiled then sent to the people who need to know.
You don’t think this latest FSCS thing just happened without co-ordination of interested several parties.
We have a few more tricks up our sleeve. 😉
@ The Jesters
As a vendor who is owed quite a sum how does one
gain access to that secure site?
You need to be ‘invited’ by a member, then for added security another member must vouch for you.
We do not want any impostors joining.
There are special deals ‘Anonymous’ August 14, 2014 at 7:23 pm.
Pat Cash’s manager…… Bob Ladell…..TailorMaid (in liquidation)…. many more.
The best bit they will never complete!!!
If, they manage to slip through the net they will be overturned by the already ‘appointed’ liquidator – lets just say he is a ‘special friend’
You know nothing of ‘our’ facts.
@ Daft Dave and his laughable trust 5.41. Thanks for the link.
I quote the last paragraph below
A spokesman for Harlequin said: ‘Ever since a Harlequin Investment Trust was conceived to provide security to Harlequin investors, we have been [legally] advised and therefore have reason to believe without doubt that the trust and redress are able to co-exist side-by-side.’
This parapgraph might have a useful meaning if the word SUCCESSFUL were inserted between and and redress.
Why are Nikki Crozier, Chris Corney and Fatchet all meeting up in the Caribbean?
The FSCS and the press must have been coordinated to happen all at the same time. By whom?
This must have damaged Harlequin.
The investment could not be damaged anymore you idiot. Harlequin is already insolvent.
This is about revenge. Ames and his family will be left penniless.
3rd of November is Dave’s battle of little big horn!
Time is catching up on Harlequin.The Harlequin circle of lies is increasing and can not be contained.There is no way back for Harlequin.
The actual recording is with the SFO. The one on the RL site is edited.
That’s a bit weird Richard posting about Ames especially as he has YOUR money. Now that’s funny!
Pity he is neither !
And where is the recording on BFP or IFA online or the ECHO. Funny how all the publications where it would be in the public domain have printed, eh jack shit. Now why would that be? And I am talking about the full un abridged transcripts or “taken out of context” is true.
The SFO have the recording that’s ALL that matters.
Dear Dave, Carol and Dan, not forgetting Nicola, we know you read BFP, we know you come on here, now Dave consider this whilst your enjoying your time at Buccament Bay this week,
We are passing the transcripts of your statements to investors to the opposition in SVG, oh yes we will also pass them onto the comrade, yes the ones we recorded, the ones you claim were private between you and your investors. We will give them the recordings, we will,
So let’s see if your claims to investors about the “Crown Lease” rattle some cages on St. Vincent in this their election year shall we……..
Were those claims taken out of context too ???????? Ha ha ha ha ha ha
We are going to crush you, your family and that little empire you built, crush it into a million pieces.
Comrade will not be impressed, cause there you go again dropping the comrade in it, you silly little man.
Carol you do realise you and Davey boy are destined to loose everything, and so too young Danny, and Nicola you’d better start having a few sleepless nights too.
Cause the day of reckoning is fast approaching……. lol ha ha ha ha ha.
We gotcha, we gotcha real good.
And you won’t know what’s about to hit you, but folks (Ames family) hit you, it will, like a freight train, and yes Dave, Carol and Dan, yes you shortly will be at the mercy of a jury, but the way you guys are going, Prison will be a safe haven for you.
Oh to be a fly on the wall when the Comrade sees how you once again have dropped him in the shit, now Davey you know it’s not a good idea to piss off the comrade, ha ha ha ha ha.
Carol start thinking about this, soon you will not see your grand children for a long time, ha ha ha ha ha ha. Carol you are going to loose them all, ha ha ha ha ha ha, so was trying to screw your “Investors” really worth it? Was it Carol? The threats made by your husband to investors who invested prior to 2010, was that worth it?, your going down you silly bitch, and you are going to loose the one thing that means so much to you, yes you silly bitch, you are going to loose your grand children, lol ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Cause they ain’t going to visit you, nope sorry, no there not, nope no.
How’s Matthew, I hear Davey boy refuses to go visit him, shame cause when Matthew gets out he will be gunning for Daddy, lol ha ha ha ha ha.
Carol it’s all falling apart isn’t it? Isn’t it? It is, lol ha ha ha ha, it’s all falling apart, a truly dysfunctional family, that’s your legacy Carol…… Lol ha ha ha ha ha.
So Nicola who you going to cry too going forward???? Mummy and Daddy and both your brothers will be in the slammer, so who you going to cry too eh????
Surely not Shane, given that it is he you cry about, lol ha ha ha ha ha.
Nicola we gotcha family, we do Nicola, we got em finally. Lol ha ha ha ha we got em.
We are in the process of distributing the actual recordings, as we have completed our analysis, and we can see no where, where anything could have been taken out of context. But of course Ames statement on finance may now too have been taken out of context.
And to put this beyond doubt, the SFO update, FSCS updates and recent press coverage has not been coincidental, for the guy who keeps questioning the authenticity of the transcripts on here, keep questioning it, see if we care, we have a very clear recording, yes that is Mr. Ames speaking and we have witnesses to further back this up.
And the recordings will go to all the right people. And they will appear on here too,
https:// anonfiles dot com/file/e81034fed302ed8c0f19328a3bad2f80
Transcripts from RL forum.
@UK Cizizen, “we are in the process of distributing the actual recording” So it’s not done yet then. It’s not been sent to the Echo, IFA online, BFP, the Beano as previously claimed. Now I wonder why that is? So explosive, so damming but has to be posted anonymously on anon files. Not like Paul Walton to be so reticent. Perhaps they should be left on a train.
Now, now, Bob using words like reticent will only confuse you xxx 😉
I find it strange how you can’t manage to explain how dopey Dave’s insane ramblings could be taken out of context?
Rich ‘ard on the other hand manged so elegantly defend it in he unique dyslexic style.
Paul Walton, is either brave, stupid or protected. He is not holding back and making some pretty bold claims about Harlequin.
Ames may hunt him down?
The incorrect use of a semicolon Richard is a dead giveaway; you being a dyslexic dick brain.
Again pretending to be something you’re not, or as you would say your not.
bak tooo skool
Wot a laff xxx
Theres alot …………
Primary school errors Richard.
Dave says….
The FSCS made it very clear, write to them to confirm you should join the Trust.
Yes, Dave we did that, and Shipleys, and the SFO even EACOM.
They said you are full of shit.
Ames: it’s at least 50 acres……
Come on Dave that’s just not true is it?
Ames says:
The Government have given me the beach ”unofficially’ there is an election coming up and they don’t want to give it us yet!!
Imagine the opposition getting a copy of the recording?
Ames:
on Brazil we gave back 286 people their money and it wasn’t until we went through with the problems that we went through last year that stopped us giving people their money back
Dave how many does that leave DaveYou took about £5 miilion in deposits. for Brazil.
£5 million .
Pat Cash’s manager – odd he is not on any of our investors lists.
No copy of any money changing hands.
That would mean the two Hotels, the ones you tried to sell, they are going in the Trust…..
Jesters, thats well documented what about the other 99 people?
Just been looking over transcripts, and this caught my eye, Dave has a plan to give investors their money back, which he will announce in September. I am looking to hearing what it is.
1. Very Big Win on Euro Lottery, ?
2. Print Money ?
3. A redefined , Madoff Style Ponzi Scheme – to pay off the first 6000 victims.
The money has been ‘spent’ Ames does not want anymore completions because he will then have to pay his part of the sales tax.
What has he done with the investors money? They thought was held in an escrow account.
Poor fools.
An escrow account is a temporary pass through account held by a third party during the process of a transaction between two parties.
Definition: An escrow account is a temporary pass through account held by a third party during the process of a transaction between two parties. This is a temporary account as it operates until the completion of a transaction process, which is implemented after all the conditions between the buyer and the seller are settled.
Jesters – He will pay the sales tax out of the completion money?
We have seen no evidence of such provisions – the money has gone.
Jesters, your investors list is a load of bollox. It’s been proved in the past. For Jesters read Ralph etc etc.
DA will get a concession from SVG to waive the sales tax.
@ Anonymous, you appear not to have understood us, yes the recordings are with a large number of people, but plenty more people are going to get the recordings.
The process of distributing the recordings continues in order of priority of course. But you will get to hear them, so relax, chill out for a while. All in good time my friend, all in good time.
You stated the recordings were with BFP , the Echo, IFA online yet none have posted them. Perhaps you are not sure of your legal position on this.
With the IMF looking over the shoulder of de Comrade one does wonder how long he will tolerate the increasingly loose cannon behavior of DA? Elections coming up too, so will the avowed Marxist remember old uncle Karl’s dictum that “all property is theft”? and repatriate it to the state?
This is Dan’s £950k palatial pad in picturesque Downham, in Essex.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=39557605&sale=42291326&country=england
Blimey! nice ain’t it?
Harlequin Warriors- LEARN ABOUT THE MEANING OF JUSTICE.
Mr Storeys personal details have been on this forum for many months. Posted by Erica and her motley crew. Bring it on is what I am sure he will say. Why not phone him up and make an appointment? Saturday or Sunday? Don’t be shy give him a call! You are that thick that you cannot find his details on 192.com? Twat”
I wonder how The Prodigal Son, Matt Ames is getting along now? What wiv the prison food an’ all. It must be doing so much damage to his facial eruptions and enlarging gut.
Will he be sending Mummy Dearest a card for her birthday next week, from his prison cell? Such a step-down from slap-up meals at The Ivy (paid for by You Know Who on the company credit card).
@ Who wants to see where more of investors money went 1.57. So Dan bought it 6th Aug 2009, about 3.5 weeks after the launch at the Grove. I wonder whose money paid for that nice house? Probably the same people who paid for the dresses (and knickers) on the scum on the image under the tree.
http://www.harlequinproperty.co.uk/launch/gallery.php
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It was the illegal obstruction of public access to the beach at Buccament Bay which first caused alarm bells to ring about HP on TA over eight years ago – despite assurances from government to the contrary in the past DA stills seems to believe that he can ride roughshod over a principle of great importance to Caribbean nations. It would be rather appropriate if this issue was the final straw that collapsed the house of cards.
@ BBaywatch 4.27. Hi Baywatch. I don’t dispute what you say and don’t understand how public access to the beach could have happened so long ago and been reported on trip advisor. I don’t think there were any holidays at BB at all til 2010. The Marshall family (no doubt Dave’s favourites) were vaunted as the first visitors in summer 2010.
Tropical tides are very small, so there is not much between high and low water in BB, so there is very little beach.
Thanks for drawing attention to this and I hope trampling roughshod over the locals proves to be Dave’s downfall.
And “jb” who would you be with your non descrpt ID. Believe me I don’t hide from anything. You know nothing, you are nothing.
Just a note for Shivel up and die’ the gutless no show
Ames puts his foot it it again, Good on ya Paul
http://www.professionaladviser.com/professional-adviser/news/2360319/revealed-harlequin-boss-misleads-investors-about-fscs-support-for-troubled-trust
@demented old fool, this was posted yesterday lunchtime, you demented old fool. Hahaha
JB grow up you are just making yourself look stupid. Just give your wife a slap that’s about your level.
@Roygbiv
If you search TA for posts by Saltfish33 you will find lots on interesting information going back to the early days of the HP development saga.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g147379-i1174-k438041-Buccament_Bay-St_Vincent_and_the_Grenadines.html#2613541 is a starting point. Those of us who love SVG were appalled at the proposals and the way that HP appeared to be able to circumvent local planning and traditional requirements. It was obvious from very early stages that this was a scam and could never be completed as advertised. This was long before Harlecon, Singing Pig or any of the other whistle blowers were involved. SVG desperately needs responsible, sustainable investment, not these appalling land rapers and exploiters.
Rich ‘ard I’m just so scared of these words appearing on my screen from the gangster of York, I’ve had to ask the Mrs to wash out me only pair of undies.
Such a scary scary night LOL 😉
Strange Rich ‘ard you never turned up to meet John – ponce nonce.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g147380-i1175-k5790571-o20-Buccament_Bay_Marketing_Running_Way_Ahead_of_Reality_V6-St_Vincent_St_Vincent_and_the_G.html
and
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g147380-i1175-k4465611-Buccament_Bay_Resort_building_work-St_Vincent_St_Vincent_and_the_Grenadines.html
In particular read the post of Markstar who very honestly reports his experiences – and went from being an initially approving guest to the author of a long running discussion under the topic ‘marketing running ahead of reality’.
I may pay you another visit…….. tough guy.
I just gave the wife a slap, as you suggested, and she slapped me back. Bo ho.
Dont you ever try that with me again John or you are dead meat. You will not come with me to a better life in Bulgaria!
Richard, the big tough guy, please stop cos I’m so scared.
Ames quoted a month ago that the DD would be available in two weeks for all to see – Including evidence of insurance of the BB site and the Planes ,,,, Still waiting ??? ……
Richard Walter Mitty is at it again, very sad. Anyway how is the fat one still eating Canadian Cheddar by the truck load.
Harlequin Warriors- Do not forget to forget to inform your investors about the 3rd November 2014.That is when Shipleys will Liquidate Harlequin.
I wonder when Ames will correct RL’s DD ”strewn with errors”
@Tiger tot.
You assume they can survive that long 😉
Well I never, and I thought it was Jeremy Newman or the Irish builder!! Maybe they are ALL working together with the Essex police and the FSCS just to damage Harlequin.,
It all fits perfectly in place now. poor Dave…. he is such a victim…. where did I put my cheque book.
Richard,
You are a bully with delusions of grandeur. You want to be seen as a successful but have only achieved ‘ Mr. Average status’ – you want to be just like Ames, whom you look up to.
I suspect like Ames, you are from ‘working class stock’ Your obvious lack or education and use of profanities is only to mask, badly, I must add your dyslexia.
I also suspect you have been bullied as a child or subjected to some form of sexual abuse.
I would urge you to seek help before these damaging manifestations surface, or your obsessive behavior escalates.
Go to this site.
http://www.mind.org.uk/
Richard, it’s obvious to me that you are the one actually writing these things. You are in need of help.
Richard,
You’re having an imaginary argument. Why are you so certain it’s Erica and her family posting on here? Can’t you see it’s just not normal behavior for a grown man, with a family.
Please seek help, on the above link or via your GP.
Okay,if you think it’s normal carry on.
@ I work within the sector- who you talking to?
It was deff Newman who went to the SFO first. It took 3 attempts before they decided to open an investigation.
Thank goodness for Mr. Newman, they are certainly taking interest now. After 3rd November, life for the Ames family will change forever.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/cib/index.htm
They are investigating HMSSE, that’s why Shiplys will liquidate
.
Can someone post this on the RL site, this will push Ames into a corner.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/complaintformcib.htm
@shrivel up and die, where are you? I’m going out in a bit so why not phone up and make an appointment? I’m waiting!
@Do something- fill this in.
That is the wrong address, correct one below. 🙂
http://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov.uk/complaintformcib.htm
HMSSE are being investigated – worry not.
Thank You
Your complaint has been received.
You will receive an acknowledgement by e-mail directly from our Vetting Section in due course (if you have entered your email address correctly) which will include a reference number and a copy of your complaint.
If you do not receive an acknowledgement , please telephone 020 7596 6100.
Please do not try to re-submit your complaint.
I have sent my complaint to the Insolvency service 🙂
Feel much better now.
Knock knock, who’s there? You ‘ve guessed it, nobody. Haha lol
Where’s PHIG when we need him!!
Just seen a white van outside the house! No it’s the gypsies collecting scrap.
Richard, Ames has not told you the real story has he. The one about HMSSE and solvency issues the poor investors that complete will own something worth pennies. You gullible man.
When the truth comes out you will feel such a twit…..
There will be many questions asked of Harlequin if liquidation takes place on the 3rd of November 2014. David Ames and his talk of new finance coming from every bank that exists to build every resort, will confirm what many investors already know. THERE IS NO FINANCE.
The lock up of directors and senior members of staff will begin shortly afterwards.
Simon Terry won’t escape, he will never work as a solicitor again.
What will Tanya say when she finds out you have been shafted like the rest of us?
The Jokers, its the Ralph gang again! Well you have been wrong on everything so far. BB still open, HP still trading, completions taking place, Sales ledgers still inaccurate. No one charged with anything. Just give it up..
@ Tiger Tot 4.29
@Tiny Tears 4.33
I hope you both are right 100% right.
BB is still trading. Ames has stated that it is breaking even at best. Most of the staff have been laid off and those that remain are short paid and on reduced salaries.
HP still trading, again yes. But HP are not making the interest payments as promised, nor paying out on claims for the contract defaults, HP is trading but doing so insolvently.
HMSSE is in Administration.
HP are selling no properties.
1 confirmed completion after 4 years out of 9000 properties sold.
Yes as far as we are aware no arrests or charges YET.
SFO investigation continues, SFO issue recent update to counter Ames claims that investigation all but over.
Mr and Mrs are still subject of personal freezing orders.
Mr and Mrs facing further criminal action in the coming weeks…
So yeah I’d say that this company is not in the best of health…….
@ anonymous 5.07pm
Firstly, the Title has to be clean so I presume that anyone who has completed has had the Title checked by their lawyer.
Secondly, what good is clean Title to a property on a resort that is owned by someone else, who may not grant access to the property or who may choose not even to operate the resort at all. Exactly how much will said unit be worth marooned in an island of rotting and decaying buildings with no infrastructure to support it?
If you had already paid in full then you may have a point but I certainly wouldn’t be waiting in line to pay a substantial sum of money simply to complete and get Title now.
The Title Deeds need to be checked by a lawyer to make sure the provisions contained properly protect the owner. If they don’t include an obligation on the resort owner and all successors in Title to provide unhindered access to the unit and an obligation to make good the access and provide utilities then frankly having Title would be useless.
Similarly, what obligations does the Title make on the owners of the unit with respect to the resort operator? Presumably it allows the resort operator to make a charge for maintaining the general areas, utilities and access arrangements? If so, is the fee capped or protected in any way. If not then the resort operator could render all properties unsaleable by charging a ridiculous service charge.
Before anyone bleats about the 50:50 room share contract and argues that the upkeep of general areas will be made from the operators 50%, you must realise that this will fall away with the demise of the current operator (assuming that it will be liquidated of course). It will then be a free for all to negotiate new terms with the incoming operator which may be so onerous that any unit owner will end up paying more to the operator than they receive in income. In this case it would certainly not be a good thing to have Title as you will have no choice but to keep paying or throw them back the keys and walk away.
Quite right, they wouldn’t want scruffy units on the site which is why they would make the terms so ruinous for the owners that they walk away and they simply take them off their hands for nothing. If the Title Deeds do not have Annexes that regulate the conduct between the resort owner (and all successors in Title) then nothing will stop this from happening. The unit owner will be entirely over a barrel with no negotiating position.
@ Anonymous 8.06pm
Well that’s some encouragement. Does it regulate the management contract for all successors in Title? Or does it simply regulate the management contract with the existing resort operator? In other words, would a resort company buying the resort from a liquidator be bound to accept the terms of the annexed management agreement?
This might offer some comfort to the unit owners but the downside of this is that it might make the resort commercially unattractive such that the liquidator might not be able to find a company willing to take it on and we are back to the rotting resort with no infrastructure scenario.
In other words you are f****d no matter what.
@ Anonymous 8.10. I dare say they do, but not from Tilbury, where they’re more likely to be en route to bluebell palace. Now what kind of a scam can we set up, involving 35 indians in a container……?
How about slave labour for a rotting holiday camp?
The moment Harlequin is officially declared insolvent, there will be no Buccament Bay.
It will be stripped within hours, LOOTED.
Who could blame the locals?
So if you actually think your unit will be safe your’re pretty dumb.
Why would anyone at this point ‘protect’ BB.
It’s over, for Ames, for cash investors and anyone that works for Harlequin, finished.
We can just hope Mr. Ames and his dysfunctional family goes down with the ship.
The FINANCE DOES NOT EXIST and never will for Harlequin.
But hey, if we could just post a few truly vile comments about the Broughtons’ genitalia then perhaps that would turn around the fortunes of Harlequin and all the bad things will go away.
If we can make up stuff so disgusting that no sane human being should have those kind of thoughts going round in their heads then maybe, just maybe, we can make all the bad things go away really quickly and even attract someone to finance the building work.
Good plan eh Mutley?!
TDR 9:40
Truer words were never written !!!
Ames tried and failed to get the posts on BFP shut down, so now a new tactic is being employed.
The constant vile and disgusting references to a number of individuals and families on this forum who in the most part are probably not contributing to the posts, is being done in the hope that those individuals might take action that will have the negative forums against Harlequin removed.
It would be good of BFP to cull those particular posts as they add nothing to the debate but given there tone can only come from those who still support the Ames family.
-Anon 10:09
I think that your’e wrong. In a large part they have been the reason
it continues to function …
-Idiots
Couldn’t agree more …
there cannot be clean title for any completions. The only piece of land registered properly has many liens in place
I repeat myself. THERE IS NO FINANCE and there will never be for Harlequin. I do not live in FANTASY LAND.
Buccament Bay is not an asset of Harlequin Management Services (South East) Ltd, which traded as Harlequin Property.
Those of you who believe it is are being hoodwinked.
Therefore the liquidators cannot get their hands on BB. That’s why they went after Ames’ properties in Thailand and Dubai. You would also be amazed at how many Harlequin companies there are – I wonder what assets they hide in this web of deception.
And what if BB gets nationalised by the Comrade?
Mr Ingham does not have ‘children’ and the one he has, is not old enough to attend school.
However, given his obsession with female genitalia, I hope it’s not female.
He won’t be very good at helping to spell, thaat wood bee funee
An interesting week, I thought is may be useful to recap on the most salient points.
Ames made claims about the FSCS backing his trust – this has been proved to be a lie.
The claim Shiplys have extended the date for the administration is another lie.
The SFO investigation has not been called off.
There is no finance.
The Harlequin due diligence is still awaited.
Holkham Compensation is not regulated by the Ministry Of Justice, this company was recommended by PHIG and Ames.
The Trust document has been changed to favor Ames & Co.
Still only one completion on Buccament Bay – by Pat Cashes manager.
Harlequin do not own the beach, but claim the Government will give it to them.
What has happened to the alleged completion monies?
The debt to HMSSE is just circular!
I just can’t see how Harlequin is solvent, and therefor could they be trading illegally?
The claims Ames is making seem to be getting more and more bizarre…… I can’t see this being allowed to carry on much longer.
Well done Dave, you managed to damage yourself, when will you learn to keep ya stupid gob shut?
Who cares what is on the RL forum. They are just a bunch of moaning individuals who who regard Walton and Fatchett in god like awe. Perhaps RL should try and get charitable status as a religious sect.
Dave is good Dave is God, we think Dave is a visionary.
My kids still talk about when the Gruffalo and Gruffalo’s Child visited them on their way to school!
The nightmares have still haven’t subsided a year on!
who is writing this, cannot be Richard, he is banned, as his supporter regularly informs us.
I wonder how many children have been effected by the harlequin ponzi scheme ?. We know that victims of fraud suffer not only financial hardship, but emotional stress, leading to divorce, depression, even suicide.
http://www.camagazine.com/archives/print-edition/2013/june-july/regulars/camagazine74231.aspx
Cheating 6000 people out of 400 million will have huge impact on many families, children will suffer.
I see that Dave Believes that people that invested before a certain date are not entitled to any compensation
What a great visionary.
@ How many families have you harmed. Thanks for the link. It may help people who’ve been cheated to read ” the sociopath Next Door” by Martha Stout.(a joke for Erica to go with containers of carry outs)
Another book that might interest people. “No one would listen” by Harry Markopolos
@ Anonymous 11.58. I disagree with your definition of child abuse. Abused children carry bruises that don’t appear to have an accidental cause. The only words they hear from their parents are variations on “You’re not good enough”, including “you’re not good enought to have a life”. And abusive parents say those words throughout life. Long after the child has grown up.
The surrounding adults keep quiet. They are more interested in protecting the “family reputation” than in protecting the child from cruelty. The child isn’t taken into care, because there are no votes in it. The only cruel parents that are locked up are the ones, who actually kill their children.
Allowing the child to get obese is just bad judgement.
Good old Jezza Newman just returned from an overnight business trip to Ireland. Little meet up with Paddy perhaps? Better than a meeting in a tent in the desert though.
@Look who we found on a plane.
No, just easier for me and Gareth, Nikki and Chris, to meet Paudie and Jeremy in Ireland – plus a few more very interesting people.
Much better and cheaper too. 🙂
We all have one goal to take Buccament Bay from Ames and rename it
Paudie’s Peach.
Yes there was a meeting with all the interested parties aside from Ames of course. Also at the meeting was Grant Thornton, a guy called Ian Richardson.
These guys will bring Ames down, that’s why they were meeting…
So whilst many of you talk about the Broughtons and Ingham and fat bodies etc, some real people are meeting to nail the lid firmly on Ames’ coffin and frankly that is what is needed.
So let’s just revert back to engaging in churlish and stupid comments and let the real players get on with their work.
I’m sure Mr. Ames would love to try and stop Newman Hallaran Crozier Walton Corney Fatchett Richardson the SFO and the FSA from meeting up. But sadly he can’t, so let’s now revert back to the main topic of the conversation, sex and obesity, far more interesting for Dave Carol Dan the pair of Simons, Dalligan, tazer Stenning and Co.
@ Anonymous 2.01 Tam Fry appears to focus on obesity as the prime or only form of abuse. He appears not to recognise other forms of abuse. I find the suggestion that abused children should be removed from their parents only as a last resort the pattern of thinking that has characterised the last 60 years at least and has done nothing to improve child welfare.
Who is Hallaran? Do you mean O’Halloran? At least try and get the names right of the so called participants. You really don’t have a clue do you.
If it’s all a load of “fucking” arse then the Great Visionary has nothing to worry about……. Has he??????
So no point in him being bothered about Mr. Hallaran funding the CLC case either is there????…….. After all Ames is the one making all sorts of noises about Mr. Hallaran funding that case……
No nothing to fear from CLC, who cares about the freezing order, or the contempt hearings….. Not Ames not Carol, cause they are just a load of “Fucking” arse…………
Yes Ames and his wife are a total load of “fucking” arse, as are those who spend hours trawling the internet for dirt on anyone aside from those connected with one of the largest potential frauds in UK history.
The SFO investigation is a load of ” fucking” arse too, as is the fact that the FSCS do NOT want investors to join the trust, that too is a load of ” fucking” arse.
Well if I were Ames and his wife and son and others I’d start making plans for the very bleak future you guys are facing, oh yeah that’s a load of ” fucking” arse too.
Another load of ” fucking” arse is the rumour that 9000 investors have lost their investments,
So Dave Carol, no one is meeting to plan your demise, no one…. no one ever has, it’s a load of “fucking” arse……
The only “fucking arse” on here is the twat who trawled the internet to find the addresses of two people and threatened to knock on their door. Where is he. And it’s O’HALLORAN you fucking arse.
Harlequin is going down the pan
with or without the stupid profanity
Oh and by the way if you need BS Bob’s address ask me.
33 Goodwood Grove
Who could that be?
Hi PD and what is it?
What has happened to shrivelled up and died? No knock on the door. What a twat.
Ingham a halfwit wanabe hot shot boss LOL
33 Goodwood Grove, York YO24 1ER
£200k house.
To all the IFAs, AGENTs, HARLEQUIN DIRECTORS and STAFF that have taken part in this FRAUD. Remember that word that i asked you to look up.
It is JUSTICE, AND IT IS ON ITS WAY TO YOU ALL.
Whoever asked above for a cull of Broughton/Ingham posts from this thread was spot on.
Please BFP delete them all as they contribute precisely nothing to the main event of the spending of £400m on building around 100 units in one resort.
@ Tiger Tot. 7.01. More power to your elbow and those bringing justice.
Simply out of curiosity would the NDP be able to hold a political
rally on the beach at Buccament. Doesn’t the law state that ALL
beaches are free & open to ALL citizens.
I mean any post that mentions the Broughtons or Ingham whether posted by them or anyone else. Including this one! I sincerely hope that this post is also hoovered up along with all the other irrelevant ones when BFP get round to editing this thread.
It is completely impossible to ban anyone posting on this website so stop being so infantile by repeating the stupid claim that Ingham is banned. You just sound like a sad loser every time you make such the same ridiculous claim Richard.
I understand why you might be mad but your anger shouldn’t be directed at investors who were not prepared to put up with the shit being handed out to them. Those investors have not been the architects of this sorry mess. If they hadn’t stood up and asked the awkward questions then we would simply be having this conversation in two or three years time when £700m of other people’s money had been pissed up a wall rather than only £400m.
All the other investors who thought it best to let sleeping dogs lie, not rock the boat, in the hope that if the business looked good then some new suckers might come along and be the next layer in the pyramid so that their unit might just get built… Now they are the true cowards in this story.
You see Another Anon, you go and spoil an almost sensible suggestion by personalising it. To say he sounds like a sad loser sounds to me you condone the crap that RI has had to put up with. The Boughtons are lucky that Manchester police aren’t climbing all over them again. The Broughtons have pissed off Crazier, Walton, Fatchett, the Irish builder to name just some.
Well that’s a slightly different story then. You said at 7.27pm that Ingham wasn’t able to post and now you say he can’t be bothered to post.
@ Another Anon, your just another moron and who cares what you think. Ingham doesn’t post on here. Got that? Why should I waste my time on posting stuff about the no mark Broughtons.
That isn’t “unable” to post, that is choosing not to post.
Nobody gives a flying fuck about Ingham or Broughton. Just a distraction by some brain deads.
Wonder if Gonsalves knows that DA said that Harlequin were going to get the beach at BB? That is, if it is true that he made that most ridiculous claim.
I think that BFP, which is Bajan after all, is getting a jolly good kick out
of not culling some of the inanity. It really does show what a boorish
lot the English can be.
While every country in the world has its share of idiots,you cannot define a nation by a few individuals. Dave Ames cheated thousands of investors out of 400 million, he cannot defend his actions through transparency and reasoned debate, instead he has to rely on his shills, spending their days writing abuse and mindless comments, in an attempt to drown out the genuine discussions.
But Dave’s attempts to get the forum closed have failed miserably, like everything else he gets involved with.
The forum also has its share of simpletons, that have little more to do with their lives, then impersonate Ingham.
How are the Harlequin staff today. Make the most of every day. You are all going to jail for FRAUD.
We would be very interested in obtaining a copy of the recording whereby Mr. Ames claims the SVG government have given him the beach.
https://www.facebook.com/arnhimeustace
That fabled recording is here!
https://anonfiles.com/file/ff1b7b5d626d353e1370b8d87bc63141
I would say “enjoy”, but it is painful to listen to the ramblings of Little Legs.
@ Arnhim Eustace supporter. The NDP seems to prefer small to medium sized hotels and villas.
http://www.ndpsvg.org/policies/tourism
And if the foreshore (beach, sometimes under water and sometimes exposed) is very narrow, as it is in the tropics, the value in the foreshore is if someone wants to bring say a pipeline onshore. It represents a ransom strip between the sea nad the land. If BB represents one of the few flattish places, it may be quite desirable.
AECOM, strange they have no record of meeting Ames, or discussing any projects with the toxic tit.
You must join the Trust……………
Due to the FRAUDULENT activates of the Harlequin business over many years. Staff should should be adviced to contact a solicitor now. You may use in house solicitors or i do believe there is a good solicitor on St Vincent.
We never gave another extension!
Holkham Compenstation are not authorised – ask the MOJ
RL signed an NDA, but breached it. It’s all Jeremy Newmans fault.
$70 million claim…
https://anonfiles.com/file/ff1b7b5d626d353e1370b8d87bc63141
It’s good for a laugh, bumbling fool.
Dave still pays 10% return by cheque…all 2 or 3 of them.
Lets be clear….
All the SIPP providers must sign, no matter what your SIPP provider says.
Still no sign of the recording on BFP, The Echo, IFA online , the Dandy. Instead it has been posted by an anonymous person on a secretive blog. No credibility, not worth shit.
Uh oh! Somebody forgot to remove the PDF author!
The phone call transcript was created by Sabina Haque.
It’s quite a unique name so it was easy to find out there’s a Sabina Haque working at CPC Worldwide, Nikki Crozier’s company.
https :// http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sabina-haque/6b/755/a08
It’s almost as if Nikki Crozier and her small band of clients are trying to force Harlequin into liquidation!
Are you stupid Bob? A link to the recording HAS been posted on BFP by Dave the King @11.50am.
Do you deny that the voice on the recording is DA?
Good on CPC, it means she is doing a good job.
No I think Paul Walton doctored it. I don’t believe its Dave.
An anonymous post of a possible recording proves nothing. That could be anyone on the phone……
Ames is being set up here, it’s good attempt but even Ames would never say what is said in the recording…. I know Dave and it’s not him….. He is seeking legal advice on the matter….
It’s wrong and BFP should remove the recording, it’s not genuine….
Paul recorded it? Maybe he sent to the Irish man?
Told you, it’s Paul Walton pretending to be Dave Ames.
He must have put the name Sabina Haque in the PDF knowing it will be found.
Busted, it was me. The voice over, the fake PDF.
Or it could just be intentional. 😉
What difference does it make who typed it who recorded it?
£400 million gone F*ck all to show for it.
It sure sounds like Ames to me…not only the voice, accent,inflections, stammering, etc but the constant use of certain phrases and words that he has used repetitively, as seen and heard on you tube, and in print(Harlequin newsletters etc)
Some of the more popular phrases or words
“Lets be clear
you must understand
obviously
what you must remember
just remember
get your money back
Its not me saying it…its XYZ”
These are but a few examples.
I like how at the end of the recording he does not even know the size of the property he owns at Buccament Bay, his Flagship resort..”Definitely over 50 acres”…yet he is seen on you tube years ago saying they own close to 100 acres.
If he was Pinocchio his nose would be miles long.
Dave Ames claims Gareth Fatchet tells lies!!!
AECOM – pure fantasy!
Bank finance !
Refunds!
Daves new partners!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.aecom.com/
@Anon 12.06 it was stated that a transcript of the recording was going to be published BY BFP, not an anonymous link to an anonymous web site. Anyone who downloads from this Anon site stands a risk of a computer virus. I know it happened to me. Guess Anon 12.06 you are the stupid one. Who is Bob?
By the way my boss Nickki Crazier hired me for my knowledge of Spanish. She seems to think it will come in useful, something to do with a fruit drink called Oasis.
It’s not fair Paul Walton promised me a job in one of his brothels if I transcribed this recording for him.
Now, he said the job offer is closed, and that’s after he had sexy time with me – to road test me.
He seemed a little bit agitated?ed something about a container of ‘stock’ being intercepted at Tilbury docks ????
The audio file was recorded by a Kim Woodford, via windows media player, I have no idea if she is an investor or not.
C’mon I just love this….. If you down load the recording you might get a virus ……… Lol
C’mon Dave admit it you have been caught with your pants around your ankles…….
So the Comrade does not want to rock the boat with respect to the beach in this his election year………
Dave have you planning permission for your restaraunts and pools???? Did not think so, would be very difficult given they are built on the Beach……
Let’s have some fun shall we, oh yes let’s…………
She worked for Harlequin.
@Sabrina Haque…nice try to scare people not to download the recording from anon files because of a possible virus….that’s what antivirus software is for dimwit…I had no problem with the file and can clearly hear someone lying like crazy for over an hour…its quite an incredible thing!
Indeed she did
https://www.facebook.com/public/Kim-Woodford-AkaFry
She was a legal assistant, Dave’s tea maker and not a very good one at that.
Does not did
Thank you Kim Fry, Simon Terry’s former legal assistant……
It’s nice to see that someone in Harlequin has ethics, let’s hope this extends to cooperation with the SFO.
Thank you Kim, thank you very much…..
It would be a damage limitation for her, young lass, newly married, Harlequin is not a good thing to have on her CV.
I’m in a state of shock.
Near the end of the recording when questioned about the beach, did Ames come out with a bigoted racist remark?
” The local colored people make a nice atmosphere on the beach but I can’t stop them coming on it”
Disgusting.
These comments regarding Kim are just so wide of the mark. If you only had any idea of the truth! hahah lol
I have finance.
I will give refunds.
You must sign the Trust cos the bleedin FSCS say so.
Shiplys have given me an extension (not in the trouser department 😉 ).
We will come out of liquidation.,by Xmas.
I own the beach.
Let me be clear.
The SFO investigation is off.
AECOM new partners.
Holkam Compensation are authorised.
Banking errors
DD strewn with errors.
Can I mention the Brazil refunds?
We have paid all the tax in SVG
I own, 20, or was it 50 or 60 acres, bugger pick a figure!
286 refunds given
Brazil investors knew that I did not own the land.
I don’t owe Shipleys anything it’s just circular.
Buccament Bay is insured.
I like this game, shame my people don’t want to play anymore and keep leaving me ;(
He’s good our Dave.
It is plain to me that David Ames and family cannot remain in control of Harlequin. I will stick my neck out and say he will not be a director for too much longer.
Ames own words, “Buccament Bay might break even this year” but Ames is paying returns to Investors, he even signed a few cheques the other day :),
Now Dave where is the money coming from to pay those returns eh??????
And erm it was not RLB who did a Red Book valuation in 2011 it was BCQS, but that is NOT the valuation you used in the Irish Court Case, ah no, the one in the Irish Court Case valued work done, assets and land at about $ 40 million.
Do you have planning permission for the pools and restaraunts, let’s see now, you told the Judge in Ireland you had a Crown Lease, the beach was yours, all above board and legal, so what’s this about the Government in SVG do not want to rock the boat in their election year………
Does Mr. Eustace know about your little deal with the comrade?????
The restaraunts and pools are built on the beach, so hard to see that you have planning permission……
And what’s all the waffle about all the assets going into the trust?????
And coming out again at the request of Bob PHIG your brother in law and Jim Baker the accountant who is about to face some very severe scrutiny…..
They are accounts, JAMES but not as we know them……. 😉 just ask Adele Chalmers your employee and one very very bent acting CFO and Accountant for Harlequin, More on this later ;).
Had any private investigators sniffing about recently ????? If I were a betting man I’d say yup…. 😉
Aecom project managed the building of the Twin Towers ????????
Well firstly and probably most importantly there is only one tower, we are talking about New York aren’t we???
Well if we are, it’s one tower Dave, yes it’s called the freedom tower…. Not twinned with anything…..
And Aecom did NOT project manage it.
Buccament Bay is a flood plain of the Buccament River, but see you completely side stepped the issue of insurance, how convenient…..
Min 50 acres, Sam Commissiong said 76 acres in 2009, Sam and you told the Irish judge it was 32 acres, did I hear a rumour that you had a different figure in the CLC case……
Never lost a case eh?????? So what about the in excess of 30 judgments against you in the Caribbean?????
What defamation case did you win, you got Wilkins Kennedy to pay your costs in the “Arbitration” and are bitching to your investors that Mr. Newman never apologised to you, yet you say you won, how odd…..
So Gareth Fatchett brought the SFO on board????? So why are they still looking at you, and why would any bank or financial institution even consider looking at you whilst you are under a criminal investigation…..
The banks love you because you are so successfull, so why after 4 years is your flag ship resort still only looking at possibly breaking even this year????
So the Terminal building at the SVG international airport is complete, you did state and to be fair to you that they are no waiting for the Runway and the Aprons, you might just agree that these might be considered vital to the operation of an airport anywhere else in the world, but maybe SVG is different…..
You did however forget to mention that construction of the control tower has yet to commence, the procurement and installation of the radar equipment has yet to start and the same applies to the ILS system…………
So now you are breaking into the US market finally, with Delta, US Airways, United, all on Board, this however is exactly what you told us two years ago in 2012, but back then you even announced the opening of your solubrious offices in New York…. Milan, Rome, Paris etc etc…
I’m surprised you have not done a code share with Pan Am, let’s see in 2012 you announced a code share and partnership between Harlequin Air and British Airways…….
Yet you sold Harlequin Air to Caribbean Helicopters ( sorry gave them your aircraft in lieu of fees owed them) a few weeks ago…..
Have you informed Mr. Bernard Purnette that you have paid him the $31 million EC dollars you still owe for land at Buccament Bay, I suggest you get a surveyor to survey the land, oh yeah Wilkins Kennedy are demanding this in their defence……
So all the assets are to be placed in the trust, a trust established under UK law…… Have you informed those who are joining the trust the massive tax implications by putting these assets into a trust????? Or will you spring this on them once they have all signed their little waiver forms……
Investors need to listen carefully to what Ames has said about putting assets in and taking them out of the trust, he has made it abundantly clear that investors will be responsible for the associated charges, so maybe investors need to take independent advice on the Tax Implications urgently 🙂
The only thing Ames probably did not lie about in his conference call is the fact that he was hungry and wanted to go home to have his dinner…
Dave Ames is not a director. Never has been.
However his wife and youngest son are.
@ @TT
Yes he is – of the non-UK companies and of Harlequin Hotels & Resorts (UK) Limited. He’s not a director of record of Harlequin Management Services (South East) Ltd, though it’s a Nap that he’s a shadow director.
Having been a dedicated reader (and occasional poster) to this
thread for the past year and a half two things have become apparent:
(1) I would like to know everything about Peter Binose. & (2) I
totally respect whatever comments Ken Picknell posts
After listening to the telephone call, it just reconfirms that Dave is a very sick, delusional man. To say the harlequin business model is still the same is beyond belief, to be still talking about developers mortgages is laughable.
Dave , you need to get help, seriously. If you pitched your business model on dragons den, explained how you spent 400 million and took 8 years to complete 100 hotel rooms on resort, that by your own words, barely breaks even, they would laugh at you, you are a laughing stock Dave. There is not one credible financial expert in the world, that will openly support your business model, not one.
Dave, you continually use the expression ‘what you got to remember is’
Dave What we remember was the 100% finance lies, your timescales, lies,
your prediction that interest payments would resume, more lies, your son going to prison for fraud- after following your business model, your prediction that the harlequin business worked without the need for external finance, more lies, you telling investors how the SFO had completed the investigation into harlequin … more lies. we could go on and on
Dave, you are continuing to make these promises, and make us believe by joining the trust, and waiving our right to sue harlequin, all the problems will go away,
fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
The best thing about Ingham saga is Dave Ames does not remember him from Dubai; he told me he just keeps calling him, if he fell over him in the street he would’nt recognise him.
He has never met him since Dubai. He just tells him the same old same old and forgets about him….. good old Dave.
Bob Storey, well that’s even worse. Bob actually thinks Dave will look after him no matter what.
That will never happen, really a man who lets his son do time when he could have done a deal to save him……
It is illegal to record a phone call and share the contents with a third party. That applies to the recording and any transcripts.
Sabina Haque and Nikki Crozier will get a nasty surprise very soon.
It’s easy to change the name on a PDF document too.
Bloody hell Paul Walton will be getting sued next because he sent it to the SFO!
There were multiple recordings, here is another recording.
[audio src="https://www.dropbox.com/s/jyo30lt40a5dlah/140101_0004.mp3" /]
Gareth Ward Fatchett has repeatedly told Harlequin investors that redress will be straight forward with the FSCS because RL already have successes.
It is painfully obvious from the latest FSCS statement that even they don’t know if investors can claim redress:
“To pay compensation, FSCS needs to be satisfied that authorised firms which have gone out of business are legally liable for any losses potentially suffered by Harlequin investors. Until FSCS can be satisfied that this is the case, we are not able to confirm whether compensation is due in respect of Harlequin.”
Pay special attention to the part about “authorised firms which have gone out of business”. Most haven’t and Fatchett wants investors to wait around with no security so a special small group can earn him a tidy sum and the rest get nothing.
Really, now come on do you really think I’ve not already done a deal with my ‘brothers’ in the FSCS – it’s just for the camera.
S&F
GF
If Paul Walton changed the name on the document to an unknown assistant at CPC Worldwide then he has got an innocent young woman into a lot of trouble to cover his own ass.
What if, Paul Walton, changed the name on the document, deliberately, with full knowledge of CPC?
What’s to hide- they are Dave Ames words? If he is so daft to lie on an unsecured phone call he is losing the plot big time.
One question, why would he let Walton onto a CC? Maybe Walton is working for Ames?
Paul Walton helped to spread the recording and transcript because he loves the attention but he is not a CPC client and he did not record the call.
You can clearly hear a female voice that is louder and clearer than the rest when she talks in the recording.
So who is that female CPC client? Answers on a postcard please.
It is good to know that H M PRISONS do have vacancies at present.
Especially for TLC and A
On the audio recording DA is questioned about the amount of land owned at BB…he sates that he never said they have 100 acres..but does say that he definitely owns more than 50 acres..
So what was he saying within the first two minutes of this video update in 2009?…That they now own almost 100 Acres.! Its hard to remember what you say when you tell lies.
Ames has lied in the conference call, plain and simple, and apparently he has lied in court too.. Yet Ames and Co would now like to suggest that making the call public is some sort of an illegal act.
So what is the man to do????? Go in front of a judge and explain that some nasty persons recorded his litany of lies and made them public.
Well hang on there a moment Mr. Ames, you yourself stated that you were not getting your message out to the masses, you even state that people do not read emails, so if what you stated is the truth what’s wrong with the recording of the conference call going public.
You said it yourself you want to spread the good news. You now have an even greater opportunity to confirm that everything you said is true.
Let’s start with the beach shall we???? So if Ralph Gonsalves gets re elected you get the beach, so what if the opposition win, do you still get the beach? Can you not see that your statement ref the beach stinks of corruption or was this taken out of context.
The FSCS, now Mr. Ames you have made it abundantly clear that the FSCS have stated, not only to you but to your lawyers that anyone who invested prior to 2010 will not obtain redress, and this includes cash investors.
Now you say this was taken out of context, so now tell us what the context was??? C’mon Dave, we are all ears..
Strangely the FSCS have since denied this… It looks like you were trying to force a large number of investors who invested prior to 2010 into signing a waiver and joining your trust. Now we suspect that this falls under the remit of the UK fraud act, and criminal action against you.
Let’s make this perfectly clear to you, you are in breach of contract in most cases bar possibly 100, and any investor has the right to pursue you in a court of law as a result of your breaches, investors have 6 years from the date of signing of contracts to bring a cause of action against you and or your companies.
Now what was this waffle concerning judges and your trust. You stated that if investors brought a case against you or your companies that a judge would dismiss the case and basically force investors to join your trust. Again you and your Barristers including Mr. No win no fee QC Hefin Rees know this to be absolute rubbish.
No judge would dismiss a valid breach of contract claim just because you have established a trust which protects you from legal action for 5 years plus.
The case would be on the breach of contract and the trust would be an irrelevance, however for anyone bringing such a claim, it would be well worth them bringing to the judges attention the statement made by you Ames reference the judges attitude to any potential claims.
Again You may just have crossed the line here with respect to the fraud act….
Some say you are mad, you are not, far from it, you are bad, dangerous and a mouthy bully but you are not mad, to consider you mad would just give you a defence in any criminal case. No you are not mad, but bad you most certainly are.
You also clearly stated that Shippleys had extended the administration process beyond the November 4th deadline, and that HMSSE would exit administration in December inferring that your family would regain control.
You even invited investors to email you on this matter for confirmation…..
However Shippleys LLP have categorically denied your claims…… All of them.
You have no understanding of the Striesand effect, the more you protest about the recording and leaking of your conference call the deeper the hole you are digging for yourself.
You lied to your investors ………… again……… So live with the consequences of your actions….. No point in threatening who you believe exposed you for the pathetic little con man that you are. No point what so ever.
Dave you stated on your conference call that you had a basically rock solid case against Wilkins Kennedy, that you have the best legal teams and QC’s in the country working on the case and that you will have a settlement from Wilkins Kennedy in the next 12 months anywhere between 60 and 70 million.
You have been offering anyone suing you a first charge on the winnings from the Wilkins Kennedy case.
You are supremely confidant you will win this case…………….. So why not toddle down to your local Barclays Branch in Wickford or better still go to the financiers knocking on your door and give them a first charge on your windfall in return for an advance of $ 20- 30 million,
If the first charge is good enough for your investors then surely given the massive interest and confidence the banks and financial institutions have in your business model they should have no problem in advancing you this money.
And why do you keep stating that you have financiers interested in financing Blu and H hotel, you have been offered some $ 7 million USD to sell these assets, that’s NOT finance. That is a sale, and indeed you are selling the assets for some 50% below the price you originally paid for them.
Go figure ……………
@Anonymous
August 19, 2014 at 1:15 pm
Now come on you’re just taking Mr. Ames out of context 😉 what’s 50 acres or £50 million.
The SFO investigation is over and if you don’t join the trust you will get arrested.
I think recording of Ames, lets call it ‘Taken out of contextgate’ will now be in the hands of:
The SFO
Shiplys
AECOM
The opposition of SVG
The Press
Essex police
The FSCS
The Irish builders legal team
WK legal team
Harlequin legal team ( what’s left)
Any investor on the RL site.
As ‘Little Con Man Exposed’, very eloquently put it what’s the problem with spreading the good news 😉
This thankfully this has damaged Ames, terminally.
Thank you all for spreading the word.
How will this story end for Ames? I think when he loses BB and goes bust for the 3rd time he will have nothing to live for.
@ Vinny talks- not that anybody believes you are Vinny, as your chatting shite,
I didn’t realise Vinny talked anything other than shite, not that we should single him out, all Harlequin staff talk shite.
All,
The forum is online again. Please utilise this resource.
We have received confirmation from Shipleys (who are administrators of Harlequin Management Services (South East) Limited) that they will be making a decision on whether to convert to a liquidation at the end of September 2014. That is one month away.
Time is short now. We need Mr Ames to accept his proposed trust cannot carry the numbers he needs.
Visit Harlequin Investor Trust – Due Diligence Secure Clients Site at: http://harlequininvestortrust.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network
Aye Bob, have you seen what’s going on on the RL site OMG!
I wonder what words of comfort Mr Ames can offer his deluded followers now? Seems strange Shiplys lie to either him or RL.
Maybe, just maybe, Mr Ames has been telling a few pokies himself?
It’s over for him.
The building company Ames refers to, have confirmed they certainly do not have any projects with Harlequin nor plans in the future.
@ Who is Dave Ames?, Don’t you wish you had done this much research & DD into Harlequin prior to sinking your cash into it?
Anon, I sure wish I did rather than paying an agent (so called) to do it for me. Very big mistake that I will never repeat.
Fatchett is doing really well at giving Harlequin time to set up the trust isn’t he? It must’ve been 4 or 5 times now that Fatchett’s said he’ll leave them alone but like a crack whore he can’t keep away from the game for long without a fix.
“I’ll be good now, I promise. Harlequin must be left alone to set up the trust.”
3 days later…
“IT’S FALLING APART! HARLEQUIN CAN’T DO IT!”
Investors are sick of the pathetic games. Stick to your clients and STFU.
It’s strategic. I wouldn’t expect you to understand, Paul does.
You are somewhat behind the times old chap, Paul has been fully paid out. That’s what a little bird told me.
@ Cash investor – unless your a cash investor with title?
I cant see how the demise of HMSSE can effect the Caribbean companies.
You mean ‘the one’ that has title. When Harlequin folds the locals will loot the place.
Anyone who completes in my opinion is dumb. You will end up in the middle of a shanty town.
Harbinger of doom – as explained last week there are people working together from multiple organisations, we have collated information from ex-employees etc so we know everyones status.
@Anonymous 12.51pm
I think an earlier poster made reference to something that was said on the conference call. I didn’t have the stomach to listen to more than half of it so I don’t know if this is accurate but Ames is reported as saying the debt owed by the Caribbean development companies to HMSSE is not important because it’s circular (i.e. it is owed to another Harlequin company). This might be true if Harlequin control all the companies and are used to sloshing other people’s money around the place like it was their own but that situation no longer pertains. With Shipley’s being Administrators of HMSSE they now have a prime responsibility to repay the creditors of HMSSE so any money called in (which it will be) from the Caribbean will be given back to the people who are legally owed money by HMSSE. It will no longer end up in some bank account controlled by Harlequin.
So the demise of HMSSE would most definitely impact on the Caribbean companies. It is quite feasible that the calling in of the debt would cause them all to instantly fall over unless they have a healthy capital reserve sitting around.
Another Anon, how could the Caribbean Companies owe a debt to HMSSE?
HMSSE were just a sales agent nothing else, the money simply passed through them to the Development Company, how could they say the money was owed back to them especially as they say investors do not qualify as a creditor to HMSSE?
The FSCS states that an investor has to prove financial loss to get redress. How does joining the trust negate that precisely?
Gary Fatchett in his infinite stupidity reckons joining the trust will look bad because you’re supporting Harlequin but how does that change whether or not you suffered financial loss? Either you have or you haven’t.
It is so obvious it doesn’t affect redress that for Fatchett not to see it he must be lying or a terrible solicitor.
Confusion is a terrible thing , Ames can have his CVA after all he is the principle creditor of HMSEE ……
All the foreign companies who owe or are owed money belong to him … So he can as usual do as he wishes
Clever little chappie our Dave ……..
@ Anonymous 3.15pm
I think, but will need to go back and look at the historic accounts of HMSSE to be sure, that HMSSE loaned money to the resort development companies.
This will need to be repaid to HMSSE so that Shipley’s can pay any debts that may fall due.
@Anonymous
August 20, 2014 at 1:01
In that case there will be a raft of people fighting off the locals who have been shafted by Ames.
I can’t get rid of the image of Ingham, Ladell and Bob Storey fighting for their cabanas like the old Micheal Cain film!!!
All,
Thanks for the Pink Trust fees.
@ Zulu 6.03. Thanks for the film, Ingham, Ladel and Storey should find a place at Argyll airport (Instrument, Landing System).
With all that glorification of welshness, it might be worth remembering that one who posted as hp wales (Jones the agent?) moved from Pontypridd (was it?) to Chepstow on the back of commissions from Harlequin?
11 VCs = 11 vile cabanas..
Supporters of David Ames need to understand he has no future at Harlequin.
Dave still tells a funny tail when he met Ingham at some investor meeting and couldn’t remember who he was! So much for being intheknow 😉
@ Anonymous 4.58pm
Sorry you’re wrong there. I have now checked the HMSSE accounts dated 31 March 2011 (and I think these are the last ones to have been submitted to Companies House as the accounts are now showing as overdue).
In the breakdown of creditors it shows a little over £15m being owed to HMSSE by the resort development companies. At some point Shipley’s will demand this money that is owed to HMSSE and make any distribution to creditors of the company should there be any.
If the resort development companies don’t have this money then they will fall over too and their assets sold in order to pay their creditors.
-Katherine……If you are the same Katherine that spewed such racial
hatred…etc…etc…when the unfortunate dive instructor was in such
dire straights earlier this year then what are you doing posting
such an ambiguous comment at 8:45 ?
Further to this @Anonymous 4.58pm
The notes accompanying the accounts breaks down the £15m across all the resorts and this shows that, at that time, BB owed HMSSE the lion’s share of the money (a little more than £10m). It isn’t clear to me why this should be the case but it may have something to do with the hefty subsidy that the resort needed to keep it going in the early days.
You see Richard, I remember when you made a big deal about knowing him, when you were :- ‘yorkipoo’ ‘intheknow’ ‘whatsthefuss’ as stated before you’re just one big Walter Mitty character, your big house, your big business, etc
The only think that’s big about you is your mouth and wife.
@Another Anon
The problem is with the likes of Ingham, Dave has somehow managed to convince him, he gets special treatment.
Therefore he believes it, because he feels like his namesake ‘intheknow’
When he finds out DA has stuffed him we will have the last ‘laff’
All,
The http://www.harlequininvestortrust.ning.com forum is online again. Please use it to keep up to date.
HMSSE’s liquidation timetable and the Davis Contempt of Court application are two matters which have implications for investors.
You can also use @risk_warning if you use Twitter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court
The poor fools who are completing.
It looks like the lies of Mr. Little (legs) is under a bit of pressure?
Just imaging if this was a coordinated attack from all the people that had a problem with Ames, ex employees, investors,people who business dealings, a huge list indeed.
You don’t make a contempt of court application out of nothing 😉
It must be time for a ‘all singing all dancing’ Harlequin update denouncing RL and this terrible mistake of a contempt application that has be just been taken out of context.
If they would only have asked Mr Ames would have told them all they needed to know.
Rumour has it that City of London Police is investigating claims R Legal Ltd committed fraud and deception wrt pink form charges and setup of the trust.
Can anyone confirm?
Yes, yes it’s all true…. they will be charged for doing due diligence and charging a very reasonable fee for it.
The FBI and CIA are also ready to pounce.
I’ve been told the police received circa 50 reports from the public.
Freemasons have reached out through their worldwide network to find fellow brothers who have been wronged by Ames.
This will only end one way.
And how will it end?
Also, from Citywire “A Harlequin spokesman said that the company maintains that it is innocent of the accusations and that it did not claim that the SFO investigation has closed.” Did a Harlequin spokesman really say that? Harlequin have said on numerous occasions that the SFO case was closed haven’t they? It’s a very risky strategy to tell those kinds of fibs where the SFO are concerned. Isn’t that involving the SFO in fraud? Genius.
The Solicitors Regulation Authority confirmed with an investor they’re looking at Fatchett’s conduct.
Taking £500k from investors for unnecessary legal work
Oasis, and we’re not talking about the group either 😉
Your Dyslexia.
YAWN!
@ the HP troll. You are SO boring. Is this really all you can up with?
1-0 to Erica.
I just feel the urge to keep posting about THE DAVE AMES CONTEMPT OF COURT APPLICATION.
With the ‘outofcontext gate’ scandal, Shiplys date, the AECOM misunderstanding, and the Brazil refunds and the Holkcum are authorised wiffle waffle – its not been a very good week in camp Ames.
Richard, you must know by now it’s over. I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt you have some business experience. The poor investors that have handed Ames money to complete are beyond help.
Shiplys will liquidate.They are under the watchful eye of many authorities, a CVA is not possible – how Harlequin can’t sell anything!!!!
I don’t know anything about the contempt of court issue can you explain what it’s about? I haven’t read anything about it.
Can you explain please?
I can’t say to much old bean. However have a look at this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court
Little legs has been served with one. He may not be too happy at that.
Join the RL forum the application is on there.
Sorry only kidding, it’s not. But I have a copy.
@Dave Ames Contempt of Court, when did I say things weren’t over? It looks mortally wounded to me but what does my opinion matter?
Fatchett has been collecting data for his next move, its not been a holiday he want’s to damage Harlequin for his own ends.
I do think he is up to no good and it could be to do with that secret society of freemasons – I put the question to him ARE YOU GARETH FATCHETT A FREEMASON
So how does a personal contempt of court case affect Harlequin?
The contempt order just makes Harlequin look worthy of investment its good news. 😉
@ the last five posts
The lunatics have taken over the asylum…
Meanwhile, Harlequin Air is busy whisking guests from Barbados to St Vincent…no more long waits…who needs Liat?
And the good news(unless you are an owner/investor) is that rates at Buccament Bay are approx 50% off of the rates (for October and November) compared to 2012.
The Cuban experts have stated that the crosswinds at the new Argyle Airport are not a problem…nothing to worry about….and we know that Cubans are aviation experts. That should be enough for AA, British Airways, Virgin etc to start scheduling flights to SVG .
Anon 8:33 Don’t forget Pheonix Air.
Ooops..should read Phoenix Air (the one in St Kitts)
@ Anonymous 8.33 C’mon. Cross wind landings are fun. Just crab in and kick off the yaw on the flare! I’d rather take a flight with this guy than AA.
Dave said it’s all rubbish and if you don’t join you will be arrested.
http://www.ftadviser.com/2014/08/22/pensions/sipps/medium-risk-of-fscs-interim-levy-due-to-sipp-complaints-00Fq5Bza6WtDMh7tJ9EB2J/article.html
All,
Read this article carefully.
The position for anyone with a SIPP has to be “wait and see” before even considering joining the trust which Harlequin is proposing.
http://www.ftadviser.com/2014/08/22/pensions/sipps/medium-risk-of-fscs-interim-levy-due-to-sipp-complaints-00Fq5Bza6WtDMh7tJ9EB2J/article.html
The FSCS website has the full update if you wish to read the source material.
As we stand today, no competent adviser should be recommending joining the trust as the position is unclear.
The current trust proposal does not have the support of the majority of investors, the majority of SIPP providers or the FSCS. These parties may not be against, but there is no doubt they are not “for”.
It has been a year since new finance was promised. It appears to us that very little has progressed beyond letter of intent stage.
The end of September 2014 is when Shipleys (as administrators of HMSSE) will need to decide whether there is to be an extension of the administration period beyond 1st November 2014. In order for this to happen, a Company Voluntary Arrangement (“CVA”) would need to be proposed. For that to happen a few things would need to be in place. Namely :-
1. An upheld Terminal Loss Relief claim from HMRC in relation to HMSSE.
2. A deferral arrangement for the RDCs – eg the trust waiver. This would need majority support. There would also need to be settlement of the litigation which threatens the RDCs.
3. A viable offer of finance.
The current Harlequin “go it alone” position will not deliver this. There needs to be a change in favour of investors. The only person who can make this happen is David Ames. He is the sole Director of all the relevant companies.
The conclusion may just be that having tried and on the face of it failed to deliver majority support, David Ames should stand aside. If he remains in sole charge then we fear the worse.
The practical position is that all the other counter parties will seek a settlement. However, all of us can only deal with David Ames. We have to take our hats off to him for the dogged determination with which he pursues his own agenda. However, this pursuit of a losing position, means all investors end up losing.
We have been criticised for being against the current proposal. Some 3 months ago, Mr Ames decided to go it alone. That was a gamble. We just about have time to radically restructure Harlequin to give it the best possible chance of survival.
What we are not going to do is be the scapegoat when things collapse. The history of David Ames being a “victim” is very long. We have no desire to be added to the list.
After all, we did not promote, collect or spend the £400m. Those with any influence need to counsel David Ames.
Be cautious.
Looks like the toxic turd will get his sister and mother out on the street.I really hope so. Chuck the old bat in a home.
Lot’s of interesting things going on the RL site. This whole sorry mess is going to come crashing down, the toxic turd effect will be devastating.
it clearly states to DA & wife that if they disobey this order they would be held in contempt, punishable by jail, fine or their assets seized. It also listed all the properties owned by them inclusive of housing DA’s wife’s mother, and his own sister.
Ames will be really popular with his family when they are living in the Essex equivalent of benefits street
Yes Richard, but Erica has had a refund and you’re still stuck with you finance agreement, what was it close to £200k…… that must hurt 😉
Paul Walton openly claims he has sent a copy of the recordings to the SFO along with emails from Shiplys and the FSCC.
If, Harlequin fails it will be his fault, he is out to damage Harlequin he brought in his bum chum Fatshit.
Ames is fighting for your investment Walton the twat is just damaging it.
He is just a twat
Can someone ask Gary Fatchett precisely how the FSCS maybe, possibly, potentially calling in more money from IFAs for compensation for OLD claims has any impact on the Harlequin trust?
A possible interim levy for old claims has nothing to do with Harlequin. STOP LYING FATCHETT!!
I just felt the need to mention that Ames has been served with a contempt of court application. 🙂
I’m overcome by all this excitement.
The RL update is curious with regard to what they see as essential requirements for a CVA.
The tax refund (the terminal loss relief claim) is, presumably, pretty substantial. We know that HMSSE owes the Revenue around £240,000 in unpaid PAYE/NIC. Any claim for a corporation tax refund would have to be bigger than this before HMRC would pay the company a penny. HMRC has a statutory right of set-off for tax debts and won’t pay anything back while it is owed money.
If the TLR claim is big enough, there could be a refund, but RL are presumably thinking it’s a significant sum of money – say £1m or more. For the TLR claim to generate that sort of refund and cover the money that is owed to HMRC, the losses would need to be in the region of £5m. That would, on the face of it, indicate that HMSSE had been trading insolvently for quite some time. Carol and Dan would be facing some pretty serious questions as to why the company’s accounting records were in such a mess that they did not know this or, if they did, were they trading with intent to defraud creditors? Either way, it would seem that there would be a rather long period of disqualification looming for them.
RL also look as though they are ignoring third-party creditors (those that aren’t other Harlequin entities or purchasers). Companies in Barbados are owed, according to press reports, around $1.5m. There is open litigation – Davis, Wilkins Kennedy, ICE, Canga, Caldwell and others – all of which need dealing with. Local suppliers in the Caribbean and US need to be paid. All it takes is for one of those to succeed in a claim against Ames/Harlequin and the whole lot collapses. No sane financier would put cash into a business facing those threats. It’s far simpler to buy what you want at a bargain price from a liquidator.
RL are also assuming that no UK agency, such as the SFO, FCA, CIB or HMRC will take any action against HMSSE/Ames that would also bring about the demise of this house of cards. The SFO have extensive powers under the Proceeds of Crime Act and could, if they wanted, get receivership orders over any of the Harlequin entities they want, even in the absence of any conviction. HMRC are likely to be taking a very hard look at the conduct of HMSSE and the apparent failure to account for PAYE/NIC on units “given” to staff in lieu of cash commissions. As and when CIB bother reading the conduct report Shipleys have filed on Carol and Dan, disqualification proceedings are likely to follow. Matt was disqualified long before he went to prison. I wonder if his mum and kid brother will follow suit?
What surprise? We find out Harlequin is solvent & it’s all just taken out of context 😉
@ Thomas Levy…”All it takes is for one of those to succeed in a claim
against Ames/Harlequin and the whole lot collapses”…
If the Government of Barbados were not so incredibly inept and paid
attention it has been documented over the past year or so here on BFP
(with photos,etc) that materials invoiced to H-Hotel were actually sent
to Merricks Show Village (full building permits had not been granted yet).
These materials paid not import duty. Subsequently they were
vandalized. My guess is that there may be a couple of private
villas around Sandy Lane that picked up these materials for a song.
All the Government has to do is seize all property at H-Hotel and
the Merricks pursuant to resolution for duties unpaid.
ps – It is my fervent hope that when both properties are owned by
the people of Barbados that the properties are razed and that
public parks are built (but then I’m a dreamer)
Richard every one is not Erica.You seem happy that Ames will do a swerve with your money? How odd.
He is….only a fool would thin – You see Richard you have missed off the K
a kicking K
No Richard, what’s difficult to understand is why you attack anyone but Ames; after all he is the one who took your money, not Walton, not Erica, not me.
Richard, I have no idea if that is what John thinks. You do like to act like a big tough guy, all talk no action, very amusing.
However, I do seem to remember you seemed intimidated by him. You just a bully and a coward.
The Gods must b e crazy !!!
That’s good he won’t mind me calling his wife a fat ugly crack head cock sucking whore then.
The Islands are 100% better off for never having 85% of the posters
as “time-share” semi residents. Talk about dodging a bullet…
Richard, you need to grow up. Nobody is scared of you, you live in your own little world where you think you are someone important, someone tough and scary.
I seek solace in the fact you will lose your money. Hopefully, it will ruin you. it looks to me like you don’t have much to being with.
Now, run along and stop making silly threats – that’s all for now xx Ange
Ames must be shitting himself, especially as some of his staff have turned against him, eh Kim 😉
@ Anonymous 3:12 pm
Agreed. There was quite a lot of material at H and Merricks that has been flogged off, presumably by Ames’s stooge, David Campion and his Argo Development Studio.
Perhaps Mark Maloney will, one day, realise that all of Ames’s promises about future work if he just doesn’t get too shirty about the cash he’s owed are simply so much BS. I doubt it, though.
And we now await the next two dozen posts of crap from the faux Ingham/Broughton posters trying to drown out sensible debate.
Please stop mentioning that bloody contempt application it’s upsetting Mr Ames.
@ Benefits Street 10.32. the time when the whole Ames family, including the old hag that dropped Carol are living in cardboard boxes, not knowing where the next meal is coming from, can’t come soon enough for me. Why should that disgusting specimen of dirt live in an old people’s home. She is part of the team of cheating filth (I think her photo was taken at the Grove) and she shouldn’t be shielded from the consequences. None of the people who paid deposits for real estate are being protected. If the filthy old hag gets a pension, it should be used to pay back those who’ve lost their savings.
@ Strict Caution say RL 9.58 Ames isn’t a “victim” he’s a lying piece of dirt. Is his siter the redhead on the coven photo at the Grove? and is she wife of Ladel the tree hugger, who wants to control the trust assets?
@ Thomas Levy 3.12. I’m a dreamer too. I dream of a combo of force 12 westerlies and spring tides that simply wash Essex clean of its scum. Whoever sited the Thames Barrier knew the filth of Essex wasn’t worth saving.
Could it possibly be that Ames is turning Blu into an R&R camp
for ISIS……anything for money.
@ Anonymous 7:14 pm
There is no missing £50m. That is merely a myth perpetuated by RL to beguile their clients and others daft enough not to be able to think for themselves. If anything, Harlequin have spent/taken rather more than RL’s estimate.
My best guess, based on the information available, is:
Buying land and building stuff (1) £145,655,000
Losses at Buccament Bay and Blu (2) £35,000,000
Planes (3) £1,000,000
Litigation (4) £10,000,000
Dubai/Thailand properties (5) £2,600,000
Interest payments (6) £40,000,000
(1) From the “Panorama” schedule
(2) Mark Sawkins said BB was running at a loss of US$1 million a month. It has been open since August 2010 – roughly four years or US$48 million. That would give a loss of around £30 million. I think it is reasonable to assume that there has been a loss at Blu seeing as the rates that have been advertised for it are not high – say £5 million.
(3) There are two Piper Chieftans of vintage around 1980. The market price a couple of years ago probably isn’t that much different from what it is now – between US$200,000 and $300,000. Harlequin’s websites say that they were extensively refurbished, and there will have been crew costs, registration fees and hangarage to pay – all up, say £1 million.
(4) The litigation costs for the case against the Irish builder are set out in the papers for the case against Wilkins Kennedy. That’s around £6.2 million. We know there has been other litigation – against the Guardian, Singing Pig, DLA Piper, the libel case and various purchasers trying to get their money back. An overall cost of £10 million is probably reasonable.
(5) This is how much is shown in the initial report by Shipleys.
(6) Many of the non-SIPP purchasers had interest payments paid by Harlequin up until about 18 months ago. The payment of these did not come from HMSSE as there is no amount for interest payments shown in that company’s accounts. The interest payments therefore have to have come from the non-commission cash – the stuff that was supposed to be spent on building things.
All up this comes to a bit over £234 million. Seeing as Harlequin took 50% of sales as commission, that would mean that actual sales were around £470 million – rather a lot more than we have been led to believe.
So there’s no “missing” £50 million as some have suggested. Instead there’s an extra £70 million in sales that need to be explained. I wonder if that’s how much was sold in the USA? I don’t recall any US agent being mentioned in the commission schedule that RL produced.
@Thomas Levy
Believe me when I say that I have the upmost respect for you…that
said, and I am an American, things work a bit differently on this side
of the pond. $85-90+ Million dollars “invested in Harlequin” is a
mighty hefty sum. The rules are totally different since 9/11 and an
amount like that would be vetted. (Think terrorism) It’s a funny old world we
are living in these days. What I’m getting at is that if I had “invested”
in Harlequin I would have had any number of eager-beaver Congressmen,
lawyers, 60-Minute reporters etc, etc securing their careers by now.
I was a vendor, I was paid, so I have no dog in this fight.
@ Anonymous 7.14. Whatever the state of my head, at least I’m not f*cked in the arse and that’s what’ll happen to Dave in prison.. I can’t find that photo of Dave looking closer to 80 than 70. He’ll look even worse than that after a few years in jail, being b*ggered by the BIG boys. If anyone can find the link, i’d love to see that picture again.
If the £50m has disappeared in Australia, the good people of Wandering may not be quite so friendly with Shane and Nicola Kelliher ….
@ Thomas Levy 7.14. I think there may have been Americans on the commission list.
Coast to Coast international Realtors sounds a bit US to me.
Chickadee Corp
He doesn’t sound foreign, but Vaughan Taylor USD account seems a bit American
@ Anonymous 7:58 pm
It is a large amount of money. The product was, as you know as a vendor, deliberately not sold as an “investment”, and it was never sold by Harlequin directly. Had it been, there is, as you note, a raft of rules in play that would have had all of those involved wearing DOC jumpsuits by now.
Nonetheless, many units were sold outside the UK. The US market was seen by Ames as being important because of its relative proximity to the Caribbean and much more disposable wealth than most other countries. Ames flew to the US regularly – he still does. Many of Harlequin’s suppliers are based in the US. There is a certain logic in cash being “cleansed” there.
Contacts of mine at a couple of agencies in the US indicate that they are watching developments in the UK rather closely. If the SFO drop the ball on this, Ames and his cohorts will be facing extradition hearings. I have no doubt whatsoever that the Harlequin apologistas on here will decry this as merely being rumour/bollocks/BS. That is their privilege.
No Mr Levy I believe you are correct and zero-target just might be
Dallas, Texas…
@ Roygbiv
Well spotted. I’d overlooked those. Some US sales therefore definitely recorded, but others, such as through Harlequin Investments, are notable by their absence. I wonder why?
Its beginning to seem like people all over the English-speaking world
are sitting back just waiting to pounce…
@ Thomas Levy 8.48. There’s Harlequin resorts Ltd ( Ray Caldwell) Who is Ray? And there’s the strange business of A Harlequin and I don’t remember which one having an office in the same building as the farmer husband of madam up to her neck in it, in the Pape half of Motherwell. The local authority might have offered offices at prices you couldn’t refuse. It still doesn’t make sense that they BOTH opened offices up the M74.
I wonder if they wanted a foothold in the other jurisdiction and I wonder if north of the border contracts are different?
RL probably has seen both kinds and knows where their clients live.
@ Roygbiv
Ray Caldwell is an “investor” who won a series of cases against Dave Ames and Harlequin in SVG a few months ago. Inter alia, he was awarded cautions over the land a BB as part of the judgments. He was also, as you note, an agent and so no doubt did rather well from flogging the same crap of which he now complains. Irony? Perhaps. Schadenfreude? Definitely.
I think the lady to whom you refer is Katharine Manderfield (née Wooller). She is a director of Hawk Properties, a company that took rather a lot in commissions, but was owed some £50,000 when HMSSE went “phut”. Her husband is a farmer in Marlow in Buckinghamshire. By all accounts he’s a very decent chap. It’s sad that their child, Wilfred, has a deformed arm. I hope that he grows up in a caring and supportive environment and learns to cope with his disability in a positive way and does not become embittered by it.
@ Thomas Levy –My God man, that could have been the plot for
a Dickens novel… (2nd paragraph)
ps – I’m kinda getting off on this crap !
@ Anonymous 10:13 pm
Picture it: Marlow, 2020. Mum’s in prison. Dad has fallen on hard times because mum has had confiscation orders that have bankrupted them all. Little Wilf Manderfield pitches up at Christmas asking that evil Mr Corney (for it is he) for a small seasonal donation only to be told by the even more evil step-mum, Nikki, that he, Wilf, is to be the centre-piece of Christmas dinner.
Cue the Chianti and fava beans.
– T. Levy…Please stop.
Lol you have RL tweeting about a contempt hearing and potential jail time for Mr. and Mrs. And yet he continues to believe he can bring Ames to the table.
I wonder how the Ames family are taking these Tweets??? Are RL stirring it???
Let’s face it, RL’s agenda is not well served by proper justice being served on the Ames family.
Given that RL have a number of well heeled clients who have previously expressed an interest in acquiring some of the Caribbean Assets of Harlequin. Their interests would be better served by keeping the GV alive and out of the clink.
A cursory visit to the RL forum clearly demonstrates that RL clients still believe that RL will come to their rescue and will right all the wrongs…..
RL’s due diligence whilst fairly good was lacking in some key areas, the question is did RL leave this out deliberately.
Apparently our cousins across the pond are taking a keen interest in the Ames family,
Which side of the pond ?
RL
I have no idea of the present position with Harlequin.What i do say is,if my current legal position is any good to you- then use it.
Richard, fuck me you baby is fat like your wife Tanya, (should i say nee Flanagan)
Low rent cow, looking at what she likes rugby, and low rent TV – where you live must be posh to her!
Is that you on the beach with those dogs, you fat fucker, funny that fat baby looks a bit young for walking to school.
See we can all play the fat card, but obese babies…. maybe you should get it to walk instead of pushing it round.
I will have me camera ready with a wide angle lense lol
I worry that Ingham has a child and it’s female
He can’t even get a stiffy on lol unless it involves insulting Erica
@ Inpotent dick 5.35 It’s much more fun insulting Ames and his cohorts , especially with innuendo suggesting they are poor performers in the trouser department.
Here’s a laugh for Fatchip (down Erica, there are no fries on this post). I had a snigger at an email received by one of Paul’s online business cronies and guess how Towelling refered to himself on his emails???
LLB (Hons) It smacks a little of desperation that someone might not think he was an LLB? Or might not think he was a (Hons)? Does anyone bloody care?
Time for a competition for email identifiers belonging to insecures …..
The Scene – Buccament Bay Resort
SVG policeman blows his whistle :
PM: Gonsalves -“I’m shocked, shocked to know that a ponzi scheme
has been going on here.”
David Ames -“But you can’t close me down.”
PM: Gonsalves -“Everyone must leave at once”
BB Gen Mngr -“Here is your cut sir”
PM Gonsalves -“Thank you, now out everyone out”
I am back from my villa in Portugal. Anything happened ?
For God`s sake BFP. close this Post down now, its 2700+comments, the last 500 or so are just filth and personal insults with no relevance at all to the topic of the post.
The Harlequin Trolls have succeeded in disrupting and paralyzing any meaningful comments.
Correcto..mundo –The Harlequin Ponzi Crime is the topic at hand !!!
Do you think any of the 6000 investors that were ripped off by Dave Ames and his corrupt company give a shit about one of their biggest supporters, Richard Ingham,
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