Racist Barbados Member of Parliament at it again

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Gline Clarke plays the race card as Owen Arthur and the BLP approve

Last August BLP Member of Parliament Gline Clarke let the world know that rich whites weren’t welcome in his Barbados.

Quite a stink followed with both BLP and Government spokespeople blathering that Gline didn’t really mean it like that.

Except… he did mean it exactly like that. And… he’s just doubled down on that racist card to let the world know it.

Now Mr. Clarke is complaining that WHITES!!!!  GOOD LORD!!!! THOSE DAMNED WHITES!!!! have been receiving some construction contracts from the Barbados Government.


What’s next? Will the DLP government will be giving contracts to Indian Guyanese and Chinese Cooliemen? Disgusting!

Clarkes’ racist comments are nothing in the grand scheme of things. He builds on a proud tradition started years ago by Barbados politicians who learned that racist comments against whites, Indians and Chinese get votes. It is a sad legacy 50 years on and a sad message to the world that Bajan politicians talk this talk with no repercussions whatsoever. Worse… they truly believe it. They live in a racist world of their own construct where Bajan or not – ‘whites’ are the enemy.

Not even Rihanna telling the whole world that she was bullied in school for being ‘white’ stopped this racist nonsense. There are very few steps between Gline Clarke complaining that the government is giving construction contracts to ‘whites’ and Bajan citizens’ comments that murdered Canadian tourist Terry Schwarzfeld was ‘white trash‘.

It’s all the same.

You know why Gline Clarke talks of the whites? He does it to divert attention from the fact that as Minister of Public Works Clarke lived in a home built on land that was expropriated from private ownership for (ha ha!) ‘public housing’.

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Well done, Mr. Clarke! Winner of the ‘Best racist idiot ambassador for Barbados’ two years in a row…

Nice going Mr. Clarke. Your racist comments really play well on the world stage as Barbados seeks international investors looking for a stable and friendly place to put their cash.

Idiot. Racist idiot.

So sorry, but we have to reprint the entire Nation article here because that paper makes a habit of changing and removing articles to suit changing political agendas. Please read the article at the Nation website at this link…

Clarke:  Black builders left out

FORMER CABINET MINISTER Gline Clarke says that black contractors are suffering in this country and the major contracts from the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) Government are going  to “a certain class of people”.

In a hard-hitting nomination address at St George Secondary School last night, the mber of Parliament for St George North accused the DLP of favouring white contractors.

“We are seeing a Government that is prepared to give every contract to a certain class of people,” he charged.

“I am no racist but I am seeing the Democratic Labour Party giving big contracts to the Whites and we must be prepared to say it.


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79 responses to “Racist Barbados Member of Parliament at it again

  1. Wily Coyote

    It’s time to bring back SLAVERY if not just for MP Gline Clarke so he can fully understand what WHITE TRASH can do to a N_ _ _ _ _.

    If it were not for the White Commercial sector in Barbados the country would have failed years ago under the Black Political sphere as it now exists. Barbados should be ashamed to have an MP like this representing the country.

  2. Moneybrain

    Gline be real careful who you associate with since George Griffith and Owen Arthur look like they got a high dose a white blood. Who is next on the agenda, successful light browns??? and then who?????

    I know it is the old political story that has been practiced for donkey’s years as did Sir Sleepy’s speeches in the Pine for years, use the race card in the poor black areas only. The race card is very dangerous for a nation that depends on white tourists, rich foreign white residents and off-shore money.
    Downright STUPID actually.

  3. just want to know

    Gline Clarke may have uttered the words, but many Barbadians think the same thing, the way they look at you when you walk or work among them. Actions speak louder than words.

  4. 189

    Gline Clarke want to be white so he can get away what the white have done good or bad. If he calls himself black the last name for black is slave , last name for white is slave. Slavery is the condition of a SLAVE. Paid less or nothing for his job.Work is selling you time for equal pay for your hours work , Anything less is slavery.
    Jackass Gline Clarke and others need to know that the BLP and the DLP want to act like the same persons he and other bitch about ,
    Instead of doing it better and learning from the past , But here now to gain from Fraud to get ahead and not serve the people but to rape them with race based statements.
    All looking now for the race vote instead of doing what is right , nothing more than distractions for the crime both parties did Bajans.
    We need to unite with brains and not skin,
    vote for brains not for skin, A good Audit will show up what they both hiding .
    Vote Bajan Free Party.

  5. Terry Wilcock

    Sad, sad man. If you want to see racism brewing up a storm alongside absurd tolerance of those who are allowed to preach hate unhindered, pay a visit to the UK or to be more precise the EU. Sorry my friend, you have no idea, and this type of talk will only damage your country and the perception of a country now rid of cruel times when the wicked practice of real abuse was the norm. Be careful what you wish for !

  6. St George's Dragon

    Construction contracts should be awarded on the basis of price and ability to perform.
    Jada, as that is who this is article is presumably about, is capable of building large projects and doing them well.
    It is unfortunate, but I do not believe there are any Black owned/run companies that can build projects the size of those which Jada and Rotherley are capable of.
    If you give companies projects which are beyond their capability you end up with an Al Barrack situation. He was awarded a job which he just could not handle and look where it got us.

  7. Bystander

    Glyne Clarke and Owen Arthur are no different. Under the BLP white owned businesses flourished well, as they should have done, and few blacks prospered. we need to move the debate to a higher level and look at skills and not just colour.

    However, I note that even though there is not a lot to go around I have seen several black owned construction firms get work in Government.

  8. Andy Smith

    Using the race card as a strategic marker is well versed around the world. It is routinely used at election time in Europe, the United Kingdom, North America and Australia, amongst other places. Blaming ethnic minorities or refugees or any other group for every ill in a country is a tried and tested stratagem. It is the political art of war.

    In France, we see that the far-right Marine Le Pen’s traditional anti-immigrant rant and calls for the preservation of the French identity has served her well in this month’s presidential staging of the elections. In Britain the immigration rules have changed and you will have to scale various obstacles before you can enter that country. The average Barbadian will have to be a professor of medicine or an astrophysicist before they will admit you and even then the rules may well change again for you.

    Mr Gline Clarke is evidently an intelligent man, who must understand the benefits of expressing a view that almost inevitably troubles some Barbadians but not all. No sensible person would want to exclude inward investment into their country because it brings employment and by default prosperity. That is the theory anyway. Courting controversy can be counter-productive but overlooking local concerns can even be more damaging.

    Many wealthy foreigners will invest in Barbados but certainly not because they are captivated or inspired with love for local people but because they wish to make a return on their capital. The problem with such arrangements is that they appear to be limited to investment opportunities in a few lucrative markets, connected to the tourist industry and particularly in real estate. Land and property appear to do quite well and Barbados, by all accounts, boasts amongst the most expensive land on the planet.

    The concern here is that non-Barbadians, usually wealthy–that’s relative—Europeans and North Americans are able to purchase land and/or property that they then develop. What follows is an exponential rise in the value of this real estate, which forever excludes ownership by local people. On a small strip of land such as Barbados, the ‘indigenous people’ are forced inland and the costal pristine regions become foreign country. Is it any wonder that those like Mr Clarke spot an opportunity and exploit certain local political weaknesses?

    So we see, already, that there are extant areas of concern beyond property and land, but those more basic, that are etched in the consciousness of the people, based on exclusion and how the political classes are able to explain their behaviour and intentions.

    Employing a contractor on the basis of race to the detriment of the local majority is a symptom of confused thinking and it is my contention that Barbadians should have the first claim on the availability of employment on the island. However, it is sometimes necessary to employ people who can do the work and get the job done. That must be the enduring principle.

    And you notice that I did not use the race card once.

  9. what will they think of next

    I hope the Bajan whites now realised that the Barbados Labour Party have no use for them. they would love them to starve.

  10. Anonymous

    “Mr Gline Clarke is evidently an intelligent man”

    I see no such evidence

  11. X

    “Mr Gline Clarke is evidently an intelligent man”

    I’ve seen no such evidence.

  12. Mark fenty

    X, intelligence is one thing, but if one lacks the simple common-sense is said a lot.

  13. Mark fenty

    I think most Barbadians would agree that Mr. Gline Clarke remarks have not place in the contemporary political discourse if found to be true. However, it is important that we do not arbitrarily attribute his comments collective to the BLP.

  14. Mark fenty

    If Black- Racism does exist in Barbados as some sugggests, then this is a sad state of affairs for the infinitesimal island of Barbados. It is within the best interest of our island, that both black and white work together to create a better Barbados, our very survival depends on it. Worse yet, it could never be more truly said, that Racism is a moral disease which eats away at the tapestry of society, undermining its very foundation. So with this being said, we have come to far as a nation, in terms of race-relations, to adhere to such a mindset which aims to keep us in abysmal ignorance.

  15. Mark fenty

    I hope to see a time when Racism, and Bigotry exist only in the pages of the history books.

  16. John

    The problem with politicians and race dates back to the 1960’s.

    It is a matter of record in Hansard long before this guy put it there in relation to the Rally Club. See Patsy Springer’s comments in Parliament at the time of the debate on Integrity legislation way back, covered in Sanka Price’s article in 2006 or 2007.

    The objective of its use is simple.

    To unsettle owners of assets and put assets into play when they decide to leave.

    The problem is that when this happens, the people who employ those assets and the labour to make them work leave.

    They pass into the hands of idiots who convert them into short term money for themselves and their friends with the associated destruction of employment.

    We are watching the collapse of the Barbados economy and this decades old rubbish approach which nets some politicians and their backers a few dollars in the long run is killing us all.

    Gline Clarke is brainwashed by the old guard and is incapable of thinking differently.

    Yet the BLP offers him back to us a candidate, devoid of the ability to think thoughts directed at the betterment of our country and incapable of contributing anything of worth to its progress.

    We are also getting back Noel Lynch I see, similarly indoctrinated and incapable of answering simple questions about his apparent wealth except in racial terms.

    Heaven help us.

  17. robert ross

    Arthur should disown this fella. He is a liability. The position in the UK is quite different….and the current very moderate tightening of controls follows virtually unlimited immigration over 50 years. You know that very well Mr Smith. There is simply no comparison between us and the Brits. Yes, racism does exist here and in the most unlikely places. You find it in the Church. There is one non-retired white priest. Does he have a parish and, if not, why not? Anyone can bid on a contract – black, white – anyone can submit a tender. Or are we saying that contracts are stipulated ‘whites only”? The argument is that white naturalised Barbadians are not Barbadians – and that argument is offensive in itself, as Fenty suggests. ‘Etched in the consciousness of the people’ or not, it’s time we looked to the horizon not the chains of the past. How else do we grow as a people? How long are we gonna cry “Poor Me”?

  18. 111

    I like the way he announces “I’m no racist” before launching into his racism.

    That is class.

  19. John

    Completely deluded and indoctrinated … incapable of contributing meaningfully to progress

  20. Andy Smith

    Thank you Mr Ross.
    I regret to remind you that Barbados, as we know it, was built on race hatred and profit. The sophisticated politician has used race quite well as a tool for years and it would be a mistake to believe that Mr Clarke made his statements as off-the-cuff remarks. No sir. His shock pronouncement was hidden in political machinations and I would firstly ask who else knew about his intended remarks.

    Mr Clarke’s position may have been engineered but however constructed, his comments had purpose. He has hit a nerve and after all, we are now absorbed with aspects of his reasoning. Racism is profound, durable and ever-present and is constant in its impact, although one would be in the majority to impose its harmful effects or have power to do so. Most people, who can be, are racists even if they do not recognise this fact. I personally would not devote my emotional space to hatred because that space is mine for me and the people I love. Notwithstanding, there is nothing wrong with dwelling on the past, as it puts you in protective mode and propels you to be a better person. I understand the Jewish people because they look back to the horrors of the past and have put certain structures in place to stave off any such threat in the future. I know that that is simplistic but my meaning is clear. There is no sense in pretending that the past is not there but one should embrace it and carry on with life.

    In respect of the British situation, you are right that Britain saw significant immigration since the 1960s but that was mostly from its colonies. Britain has now swapped entrants from former colonies for the 350 million residents of Europe. You know full well about the angst of the British people, previously concerned about the impact of asylum seekers but more recently of Eastern Europeans. The latter were/are considered a pool of cheap labour, impacting the availability of work for local people, especially the youth.

    I have already expressed a view about skill sets and we must use those that are most appropriate for our needs, whosoever provides them. The people have to survive.

  21. Capone

    He doesn’t have the brains to come up with any new solutions to carry the country forward.

    Total waste of time.

    In this economic climate is that the best he can do? Why doesn’t he talk about Greenland and the millions thrown away there. I am more interested in having someone locked up over that than hearing the same race crap all the time.
    Total idiot. There are intelligent people living in Barbados and his comments reflect how small minded and brain dead he is.

  22. Duppy Lizard

    Whenever elections come around you can bet yuh botom dollar that the proverbial race card close by…When yuh really aint got one diddly doop to offer the “Masses”, man look to that Ace card.., de scapegoat of all scapegoats,,Whitey,,,Heh!Heh! Yuh all can dun fuhget about dem Upper Middle Class and Upper Class Blacks who wid there Edducayion live High in dem Terraces,Sandy Lane homes,,Gated communities,,etc., etc., and who really dont vote(But dem bettuh get orf of dem behinds and do so) who ent no different from whitey (a miniscule minority) trying to further themselves by de same edducation,filling Exec jobs,being Doctors,Owning businesses,,and who will be also villified in the long run of things.

  23. “White people”,Indians,Chinese,Jamaicans,Guyanese,St.Lucians and so many others ! Unfortunately we forget that it is impossible to go anywhere in this world and not find a Bajan …many of our own relatives… settled,living and working among these very people in their own countries.

  24. robert ross

    @ Andy Smith

    ” The past…..Embrace it and carry on wih life”…exactly – you assimilate it and then move forward…..for it no longer controls you. The ‘past’ for the Jews is an ever present reality, a seemingly ‘eternal now’, and so I reject that analogy. There is nothing wrong with recognising past mistakes.. and learning from them….but ‘dwelling’ on them? So that they strangle your thought processes? Your speech? Your conduct? Your perception of others? Surely not.

    The UK – yes from the former colonies and earlier than the 1960’s…and still – as well as asylum seekers and from Europe. But the analogy is still false. There is nowhere in Bim which approximates to any city in the UK or even humble little town..nowhere where any of us can walk and say, if we wanted, “Is this REALLY Bim?”..There is no meaningful possibility of ‘race riots’….there are no Nationalist parties of the SAME order.

    I accept your point about. prior knowledge – how effective is it as a political contrivance now do you think? – but question – not deny – your remark about what we know about origins…”built on race hatred” . You would need to explore that one with me. But yes, I agree it still simmers here though we pretend it doesn’t and, in a way, it’s the nastier for that. But then we are a nation of ‘pretenders’ in so many different ways. ‘We are all racists’…maybe in one way or another by which I mean we all have prejudices sometimes rooted in experience and sometimes not….the ‘hunchback’ model of looking at the world. And, yes, it’s good that we can talk about it irrespective of the colour of our skin. It’s a metwand of ‘growing up’.

    I appreciate the sophistication of your analysis. It’s a sort of whispering.

  25. victor

    It’s time to introduce stricter rules about land ownership in Barbados, simple as that, Higher taxes on purchase and sale of property to non-Bajans, keep an eagle eye on corporate purchases. Don’t exclude the diaspora, they have contributed so much whilst working away for heavens sake stop selling the island off to foreigners, what ever colour they be and don’t bring colour into it for those who have been Bajans for generations and may be white or half white like the Rhiannas of this world. It’s not rocket science to allow foreigners to buy short leases as the Ducal estates do in London, where you get a 30 year lease and at the end, renegotiate at the owner’s pleasure. Too expensive? So sorry, goodbye. But I don’t trust the Barbados government to handle such an arrangement without screwing up as hands reach towards pockets.

  26. robert ross

    I always distrust analyses which are “as simple as that’.

  27. Brudah-Bim

    I disagree with the poster. As a sovereign nation, Barbados is within EVERY RIGHT to restrict parties who aren’t seen as members of the nation. As a SOVEREIGNTY, WE ARE IN EVERY RIGHT TO ALLOW OUR CITIZENS TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE NATION’S SWATH OF EUROPEAN AND “INDO-CARIBBEAN” IMMIGRANTS that are poised to permeate throughout our borders.

    What you are worrying about is an example of the cynicism implaced by external parties in order to place this ‘need’ for “political correctness” particularly when it is especially essential to domestic affairs. It is only used but to hinder Barbadians from being able to SUFFICIENTLY ACT WITHIN THEIR OWN RIGHT BY ESTABLISHING THEIR VOICE THROUGH POLITICAL AGENCY. IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT AFTER ALL. If Europeans and other nations can act within their own rights then so can we.

    I must also stress that it is CRITICAL that Bajans maintain this sense of conservatism (though not to a level of extremism) in order to facilitate an environment which would ultimately lead to the Bajan government to act within its own interests, and to preemptively safeguard & preserve the future of Barbados as the nation it currently is (population wise). You forget that not all 166 Square miles of Bim cannot fit all these squandering foreigners by recklessly giving them citizenship.

    What needs to be stressed is that Barbados must move towards securing and establishing a solid stake in a future that will be GUARANTEED TO FUTURE BAJANS OF TODAY’S MAJORITY; but also allows for there to be flexibility in terms of provisions of rights to foreigners. But at the end of the day, Barbados is for an shall remain for Bajans ONLY!!!

  28. Andy Smith

    The analogy in respect of the situation in another country has no exact (true) resonance with Barbados and I give you that Mr Ross. But there are some similarities based on discontent and this rests in the failure of the state to address emotional and material poverty. As a construct, Marxism, having been discredited in many ways, still points us to an understanding of the consequences for a society that fails to recognise particular concerns in its midst, e.g. the Arab spring or the political crisis in Jamaica, most evident at election time.

    Some countries have race riots but such a thing is inconceivable in Barbados. However, what we have are extremes of wealth and poverty in Barbados and that invariably leads people, especially young people, to take the view that they have no stake in society. Such a situation means that individuals can fail to make rational decisions because of disenfranchisement, not so much because they cannot physically vote but because they believe it has no impact.

    Barbados is a small country and we must be careful about isolation. However, people must be allowed to express their views (freedom of speech) responsibly, without censorship. Although I am not certain, Mr Clarke may well be expressing a sentiment, albeit poorly, of his constituency or political masters even.

  29. BadBob

    To the attention of the editor:
    Gline Clarke is black?
    Why wasn’t I informed of that?
    So much for expecting to be kept informed!
    I am canceling my subscription.

  30. what will they think of next

    It is clear to everyone that the Barbados Labour Party is no longer afraid to let the whole world know that they have a deep hatred for Bajan white people.
    The Barbados Labour Party would like all White Bajans to just dry up and blow away.
    If I were a white Bajan I would be very afraid. These constant attacks on Bajan whites in Barbados by the Barbados Labour Party, reminds how the genocide in Rwanda started.

  31. robert ross

    @ BB “recklessly giving them citizenship”…you’ve been away too long.

    @ Andy Smith

    ’emotional poverty”

    I’m very ready to concede the concept. But how do you address it? By stirring up race hatred? By appealing to the dark part of ourselves or the best? By being BB or Andy Smith? Or even RR? By being Beckles and writing ‘history’? Or Commissiong? By not speaking in slogans? By printing T shirts? By being the voice of the Church? By using events to advantage – as with Garcia? By arguing again and again that our Bail laws are being subverted again and again by black magistrates? By burning the office of the Bar Association? By writing books of poetry? By creating jobs? By the creation of a third force? By writing blogs?

    Well – feel free to explore this one with me too

  32. rastaman

    Maybe the white ones are the ones who agree to the kickbacks?

  33. robert ross

    @ BB

    A future “guaranteed to today’s majority”. OK…so minorities count for nothing? Not even minority citizens in terms of colour? BB – you are from the dark ages, a fossil, and you speak (on this one) in slogans and from the wrong orifice. But tell me – is a white artisan, poet, potter of less value than a black when both are citizens? And both born here? And do we have ‘good citizens’ (ius soli) and ‘bad citizens’ (simply ius)? Does Caricom count for nothing? And the preciousness of all our hearts? Does it matter who creates jobs so long as they are created on a level field? Is it worse to build and create than separate and destroy? Do the hands of the divine rest on some or all in Bim?

  34. Mark Fenty

    @ “Andy Smith”

    Andy your compositional eloquence is somewhat lacking in validity, and veracity. Because there is something seriously wrong with dwelling on the past, if the past evokes emotionals with causes dissention in the masses. Now, don’t misconstrue what I’m say here, because I do agree to some extent, that people of African descent should study daily to understand they history, and in process this would allow them to understand themselves much better, do you agree?

    My friend, someone wrote these encouraging words, and I must say it has left and immovable imprint upon my conscience. ( “The past with its good and evil lives in the present, what men, and women did some three hundred years ago, has shaped our lives today, and we by our action will shape tomorrow’s world.”) Friend, our present generation has what it takes to ameliorate our human condition, but we have allowed ignorance, indoctrination, and the wrong thinking to derail our effort to achieve this reality.

    Let us not prosecute our history in such away that it evokes those emotions in us that is so easily inflame. I wish some people of African descent could take a life lesson from the (“Nelson Mandela”). Because despite his struggles, hardships, sacrifice, and suffering he still founded it in his heart to forgive those who wrongfully imprison him for some twenty seven years. That is the kind of example we should be set for the young (“black boys”), and (“black-girls”), not hatred, intolerance bigotry, and race-bashing .
    Finally, someone said that, “What goes in the human mind has the power to change how think, what we believe, and ultimately how we behave”. Our children, black, white, brown, and yellow are the only future the human race has, let’s teach them well.

  35. Backfire, den?

    “I hope the Bajan Whites now realised that the Barbados Labour Party have no use for them.
    they would love them to starve.

    Like if the white vote is any big deal in this teacup nation.
    The whites can’t make any decisive swing one way or another!

  36. Brudah-Bim

    @ Fenty You forget that one cannot sufficiently “move forward” without PROPERLY learning from what the past has brought him.

    @RObert Ross
    “BB – you are from the dark ages, a fossil, and you speak (on this one) in slogans and from the wrong orifice. But tell me – is a white artisan, poet, potter of less value than a black when both are citizens? And both born here? ”

    Mind you I was talking about keeping Bim for BAJANS. I never said BLACK BAJANS! White Bajans too have a stake in the nation’s future; I was never preaching that we should “get rid” of them either. All I am saying is that Bim is in EVERY RIGHT to limit who she grants citizenship to FOR MANY LEGITIMATE REASONS. What I am advocating for is essentially for there to be TIGHTER RESTRICTIONS ON IMMIGRATION,while at the same time being flexible enough to grant some rights and agency to foreigners here as “guest workers” and “Permanent residents”.

    That is where I am coming from Mr. Ross, the “Jus Sanguinis” Standpoint. And if that has proven to be a little too “archaic” for you, then I suggest that you kiss your identity as a BAJAN goodbye for it would no longer be relevant in a society now overrun by FOREIGNERS who risk squandering ofF the nations few and hard earned resources WITHOUT BOTHERING TO learn ANYTHING ABOUT BIM.

    Creating a plutocratic society in which the Foreigner gets his way by grant of his dollar and the Bajan citizen is made to be a servant in their OWN country. OH WAIT, THAT’s ALREADY CURRENTLY HAPPENING TODAY ISN’T OUR BELOVED BIM THRU OUR “TOURISM” & “OFFSHORE BANKING”, ISN’t IT?!

    In other words, I place more emphasis on the nation’s Black component because despite being the majority we as a people HAVE MADE NO REAL SIGNIFICANT STRIDES THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE MADE BARBADOS LOOK & FUNCTION COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TODAY! Its just too convenient that the majority of the nation hasn’t even really established an environment in which the citizens are focused on accruing wealth for the long term for future generations to come enjoy as opposed to “Living for the next day”. What we are is a fringe society in which “getting by” is accepted as the MONIKER for ADEQUACY. This in effect has made us subject to being open to exploitation by external parties and their influence through our nation’s inabilitiy to have the capacity to move preemptively and strategically.

    Mind you white Bajans are typically sitting on a secured bed, to which they could always easily flock out the Rock. Not to mention that you also forgot to ask which demographic in Bim owns the Majority of the country’s wealth??!

  37. Mark Fenty

    @ “Andy Smith”
    Andy, even in the United State of America with its pseudo liberty, equality, and freedom of speech, there is a price to be pay if one ventures outside periphery of prescribed law. The Supreme Court has ruled that speech with causes an immediate and present danger is illegal. Try threatening any member of Congress or the House of Representatives, and see how free your speech it. So in essence free-speech comes with some responsibilities, if not we would abuse it every day. As I have said, speech which goes beyond the frontier of constitutional protection is illegal.

  38. Mark Fenty

    Black fire den, I thought I had made that perfectly clear.

  39. rastaman

    Oh dear,based on the comments of the PM ,seems we are saddled with this DLP Govt for another year. God help us.

  40. Mark Fenty

    @”Bruddah Bim”
    Bruddha Bim, I believe you have misconstrued what I’ve said earlier. I do agree that in order for one to understand the future better, that he or she must first understand his or her the past. As their say, the present lies deep in the past. Now, this was my argument, “I said that there is some thing seriously wrong with dwelling on the past, if the past evokes emotions which causes dissention in the masses. However, as far as I’m concern, there is nothing wrong with recalling past, if it is a reminder of that which is positive, and aim at uplift the human condition.

  41. Andy Smith

    Messieurs Ross and Fenty, I think that it is important that we do not pretend that our history has no validity and should be forgotten. Nelson Mandela’s arrival, if I may put it that way, was in no small measure based on his ability to reflect and understand the human condition. We need to deal with these issues.
    Understanding the past is a good barometer for shaping the future and I am not advocating harming anyone’s prospects. But let me go on to address something which continues to trouble me, as I read the various contributors here.
    The freedom to be able to discuss testing issues has purchase and is a good thing. When I read comments posted on BFP, I am struck by the various undercurrents in the thinking of the authors. There appears to be so much anger although the situation is not entirely devoid of hope.
    What is concerning, however, is the ‘literary violence’ relating to a section of the community. I have seen this behaviour before and I have already given mention to it in respect of other societies. It may well serve a purpose and it is right for the individual to express a view. Nonetheless, I am almost confused by the lack of appreciation of how Barbadian society is polarised. Today I am having cause for reflection and what has to be understood is the impact of the relationship between who manages Barbados and who controls its economy. No disrespect is meant to anyone here by these comments.
    Whatever bias we hold, we must be realists. The political process may be important to the majority and that is as it should be. This does not mean that heavyweight voting or non-voting economic players will not be able to impact policy, regardless of who governs Barbados.
    I must tell you that I am having no part of abusing or disadvantaging people along racial lines because I think that we must adhere to moral, legal and international norms. However, there is no get out clause regarding addressing local concerns.

  42. robert ross

    @ Andy Smith

    I wonder how true it is to say ‘Bajan society is polarised’. If so, in what way precisely? Sure you find polarisation when it comes to DLP/BLP. You may also find it when you consider the Alexandra School debacle. But with Clico? So far as race is concerned, though I grant it’s an undercurrent, even a latent state of mind – I really don’t believe it’s a confrontational issue in quite the way you seem to suggest – though it persists in commentators, so-called intellectuals, those who’ve left and suffer from an excess of nostalgia and, as with this post, some politicians who cynically grub for votes by appealing to the darker side of ordinary people.. If you find ‘literary violence’ here excessive, please go spend some time on BU…where I was once warned that BFP is for whites! And yes, you will find anger even here. And why not? You see, most of us don’t give a fig for the colour of a man’s skin and feel that for anyone to try to make political capital out of it is tribal to the point of barbarity.

    @ BB
    If we explored the issue of blood, I think you would have difficulty; but I’m glad to see that by ‘guarantees for the majority’ you don’t mean what you seemed to. But you know, you do seem to think that citizenship grows on trees…..which is why I say you’ve been away too long.. As for the way so many spend their lives – as you say, for tomorrow – is that any different from anywhere else? You really can’t blame ‘Joe Soap’ the migrant for that. It’s all a very fine balance this business of doing ‘Best by Bim”.

  43. what will they think of next

    Backfire, den?
    ” if the white vote is any big deal in this teacup nation.
    The whites can’t make any decisive swing one way or another!”
    That is what you and the Barbados Labour Party fooling your selves with?
    A broke pocket Party cant win any elections in Barbados. You need the white dollar for finance! Jokebird.

  44. Brudah-Bim

    @ Robert Ross
    “But you know, you do seem to think that citizenship grows on trees…..”

    Are you sure you read my piece right? Ask me what Bim needs to do in terms of redrafting her immigration policy and you would call me an extremist. Here’s what I believe SHOULD BE the immigration policies of Barbados:

    [BIRTH RITE] – Bajan citizenship will follow the Jus Sanguinis precedent in that Bajan citizenship WILL NOT be granted on the basis of birth within the country, but rather through at least one parental link (regardless if it maybe maternal or paternal).

    [Naturalization Process] – Eligibility for Bajan citizenship through naturalization can be achieved after following a series of steps. The Government of Barbados reserves the right to automatically deny applicants the right to citizenship if found to have any records of a criminal history. The naturalization process could be broken down in three blocks; Worker’s Status, Permanent Resident, and Citizenship Exam:

    ~GUEST WORKER STATUS: Applicants for citizenship must enter the country on a work visa, or “guest worker” status and must be able to provide evidence that they have an already established Employer’s connection to sustain a livelihood. Guest Worker visas expire on an annual basis, and can be automatically updated for FREE if a CARICOM resident. All other parties are expected to pay a standard flat-rate fee for a 5 year worker’s Visa.

    ~PERMANENT RESIDENT: To qualify as a permanent resident, parties are expected to have resided in Barbados under “Guest Worker’s” status for a total of at least 10 YEARS before being eligible for P.R. status. Parties are also expected to provide records indicating that they paid their taxes, had an established employer’s connection, and they are also expected to have evidence of being able to pay debts as well as rent-bills.

    Permanent Residency has three classifications with context to a “Three Star System”. A “Single Star” Resident has successfully fulfilled all qualifications needed to qualify for P.R. Status but does not own any land, assets or significant bonds in Barbados; nor do they have a Bajan citizen as a spouse and/or children with that spouse. A “Double Star” resident has successfully completed all necessary qualifications; is a Spouse of a Bajan citizen and/or has children with a Bajan citizen, but does own property or assets in Barbados. A “Triple Star” resident has successfully completed all necessary qualifications; May or may not have a Bajan citizen as a Spouse, and owns property, assets, and significant bonds/stocks within Barbados. A “Triple Star” resident also has the opportunity to vote though only on a COMMUNAL/COMMUNITY level affairs (not Parish or National affairs).

    ~CITIZENSHIP EXAM: To qualify for the citizenship exam, applicants must be a Permanent Resident of Barbados approximately 8-9 YEARS (as well as submit the appropriate proof of residence as a guest worker, employment, and tax payments) before being qualified to take the exam. Applicants are subject to a background-screening and are subject to paying a standardized fee before being able to take the exam. The exam will measure the Applicant’s ability and capacity to converse and articulate themselves in English as well as test their extensive knowledge of Bajan history, culture, Government, politics, economy, and society.

    Applicants who fail the exam are subject to a 5-year waiting period and are subject to a re-processing of a background check before being eligible to re-take the exam.

    [Marriage] – Citizenship isn’t given immediately after marriage to a Bajan citizen. Rather, the spouse of a non-citizen is automatically eligible for a “Double Star” Permanent Residency Status. Parties must be able to provide proof that they have been married to as well as own assets and have lived with a Bajan citizen for a total of 12 YEARS. Divorce or Separation from a citizen during or after the 12 year duration will result in the automatic revocation of citizenship (but not residency status if children are born to a Bajan citizen).

  45. Brudah-Bim

    @ Robert Ross

    I am certain that this would MOST CERTAINLY change your impression of me thinking that “Citizenship grows on Trees…”; an accusation I find to be EXTREMELY DEPLORABLE If I might say….

    Mr. Ross, You would find that I am an individual so in love with his country that I have come prepared with a chock-full-a Ideas, as they would say here in the U.S. Please do not make such highly charged statements without properly consulting me up front. Only after critical diliberation can one confidently make such assessments, however in your case I would say that it was completely uncalled for.

  46. Brudah-Bim

    @ RR

    Not to mention that I do not follow when you say “You’ve been away tfor too long…”. Exactly what are you getting? If you would care to elaborate….

    I am extremely knowledgeable of what is going on domestically. If you KNEW ME, You would keep in min that at the end of the day my blood ties are too close to Bim for me to simply just ignore. I find myself skyping my cousins, neices, and nephews, as well as my siblings and aunts and uncles on a weekend basis.

    So when you say that “I’ve been away for too long..”, you forget that distance doesn’t necessitate to complete detachment from home. In short Mr. Ross, You can take the Bajan out of Bim, but you can’t take DA ROCK out of the Bajan.

    I believe that we are a resilient people as well as a knowledgeable one, and that so long as we are mindful that we must act within our OWN interests and BE preemptive within our strategic means to move forward.

  47. robert ross

    @ BB

    The point is very simple. You seem to think that citizenship is freely obtainable on a ‘nothing’ and is given on a whim. It isn’t….as I see you now confirm. How then can you say that citizenship is given “recklessly”? But you do seem to backtrack in a number of things you write when confronted with them. By the way, the first stage, beyond work permits, is known as ‘immigrant status’. I think your summary is very ‘dated’.

    I know very well you have ideas. And you know very well, or you should, that I respect them. What I do not respect is the baggage that goes along with them – as I have told you before in another place, and not least because it is unnecessary for both their purpose and fulfilment.

    Of course absence does not entail ignorance. I never said it did.

    You mention qualities and, yes, there are plenty of fine ones. But.do you also want to add ‘narrow minded Pharisaism’ to your list? And in terms of physical characteristics – how about ‘grossly overweight’? When we speak of the ‘poor’ – as I do too – I often wonder about that.

  48. robert ross

    @ BB

    No I’m sorry. I now realise you were explicating a Utopian dream – from your perspective. I should have read you correctly. Sorry. But do you want to add…

    .”Where a citizen leaves Barbados and is absent for 15 years or more, he must annually submit proof that he has contributed to GNP in excess of……$…..else, other than for the purposes of diplomatic protection, he is not entitled to assert that citizenship to the DETRIMENT of any person having immigrant status or citizenship and residing in Barbados for nine months or more annually and whose contribution to GNP is in excess of ….$…… in any free underground blogging device.without good cause, the burden being on him.”?

    In other words, there comes a point in the argument where self-evident sincerity is not enough else we fail to take the glass to ourselves as we do to others.

  49. Brudah-Bim

    @ RR

    Correct me If I’m wrong, but are you suggesting that a Bajan citizen who leaves Bim and has made a fortune outside of Bim that they be relinquished of their citizenship? On the grounds that they haven’t “contributed” to Gross National Product?

    That can be solved by simply making Barbados’ tax laws more stringent for expat Bajans by requiring them to pay despite their foreign residence. By paying taxes, they are exercising their consent to be a citizen thus making not placing their citizenship (and legal ‘health’) in jeopardy. However, if they were to leave Bim and were to not comply with the tax code, then they will be subject to having charges being brought to them for tax evasion upon return to Barbados.

    I think revoking a Bajan’s citizenship on the grounds that they haven’t been actively contributing to the nation’s Gross National Product (which requires for them to be directly involved in the domestic economy in some way) is a bit harsh and can set them up for statelessness; not to mention it may come off a little as persecution on the grounds that they have foreign residence. However making Bajan expats subject to pay Barbadian taxes (as is the case with Switzerland, the U.S., Singapore, Germany, etc.) will ensure (1) securing of government revenue, and (2) proof of allegiance.

    Nonetheless, I do see where you’re coming from.

  50. Brudah-Bim

    ^^@ RR @ Everyone^^

    That was me, I was just on a different window that didn’t have my info saved.

  51. BFP

    Hi Brudah-Bim,

    Clive fixed that for you.


  52. robert ross

    @ BB

    No BB, I wasn’t being serious at all. I was being as potty in my blog as I thought you were in your Utopian dream. Mind I did allow you diplomatic protection. On the ‘closest and most real connection’ principle you might not have got that….err. I don’t know and, actually, I don’t care. Of course you’re Bajan and a very sincere, loving one – my object throughout in crude terms has been to say (1) racism is bad and should be confronted for what it is wherever it appears; (2) that everyone who is here (without prejudice to those who are not) can claim that they are ‘working’ for Bim in one way or another – and some very meaningfully indeed -and once we know there is a level playing field free from corruption. To which I would add that I see no problem with incentives in principle which is why I said somewhere that the business of ‘doing best for Bim’ is a fine one. My working principle is that it is better to create and build than separate and destroy. The first means ‘life’, the second ‘death’. And between those two extremes resurrection is busily working since neither is an absolute.

  53. runner

    @ Brudah Bim

    Don’t waste cyber space .. your first utterance : As a SOVEREIGNTY, WE ARE IN EVERY RIGHT TO ALLOW OUR CITIZENS TO DEMONSTRATE THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE NATION’S SWATH OF EUROPEAN AND “INDO-CARIBBEAN” IMMIGRANTS that are poised to permeate throughout our borders ; smacks of racism to the highest order . There is merit in your proposals but to what end ? Some outdated notion of what Barbados society and culture should be . Do you care to see what those “swath of Euros and Indos ” do in Barbados ? Probably not, as you are too busy enjoying the fruits of life in another land which was built on the backs of immigrants of all races.

  54. Mark Fenty

    @ “Andy Smith”
    Andy, I’m quite sure that anyone here with a reasonable amount of
    intelligence, would agree that it is important to examine one’s history, especially if it relates to people of African descent, given our history of slavery. I don’t think that anyone here is disputing that fact, your point is well taken sir. The problem arises when we use disparaging language, which is interlaced with racial -overtones, that causes dormant emotions to erupted causing disunity within the masses.

    I often make references to Nelson Mandela because I admire his love for humanity. (I would also such that everyone here gets a copy his book “Long Walk to Freedom”.) The thing I admire about Nelson Mandela is this. When Steve Biko came into the African National Congress/ANC, he hated the idea that Indians, and whites were in the some of the leadership position, and he wanted them out. So he said, “That it was black struggle, and blacks had to do it alone”. Mandela disagreed, he said that, “South Africa was a land of Blacks whites and Indians, and everyone should play role in the struggle for human right irrespective of race”.
    This is the kind of philosophy we need to adopt in our lives. we have to say to ourselves that, irrespective of the wrongs those have done us. we can still find a place in our heart to forgive them, and move on with our lives.

  55. Mark Fenty

    Runner, I agree that when it comes to immigration that the government should exercise some measure of control to restrict the constant stream. However, it most not be forgotten that at one point in our history, Barbadians where flooding the shores of Guyana, and Trinidad in search of better opportunities for they families. I hope when the economic vicissitudes changes in Barbados for the worse again, that some Barbadians don’t find themselves fleeing the island faster than the race-horses leaving the starting gate at the Garrison Savannah?

  56. Mark Fenty

    Runner, for your information, most Barbadians who live abroad, have a comprehensive understand of the politics, cultures, and current-happenings than those who live on the island. Ask me how, I haven’t the slightest idea.

  57. Mark Fenty

    I think a critical part of black history that is seldom emphasize, is the fact that haven’t for the good-well of the people of European- stock; who scarified life and limb in the quest to correct the injustice of slavery, our struggle for emancipation would have been quite different.
    Just to name few, in the United States John Brown a white man from the states of Connecticut gave his life for this cause. William Wilberforce a British philanthropist gave of his influence, and wealth in the struggle to dismantle the old institution of slavery. so let’s be realistic, many whites did not agree with the immorality of slavery, but because of the status quo some lacked the moral courage to go out on a limb to do the right thing. President Abraham Lincoln held a moderate stand on slavery, but yet he had moral courgare, and testicular fortitude to dismantle this undemocratic social- order which had been the birth- defect in the young Republic.

  58. Anonymous

    @ runner

    You may cal me “Racist” yet Countries like the U.K. and Germany and even the Bloody E.U. have a PLETHORA of political campaigns and parties that advocate for the Far right, often laced with undertones of racism. I will not back down from what I said, and I still posit that as a SOVEREIGNTY THAT WE ARE WITHIN OUR EVERY RIGHT TO IMPLEMENT AN ENACT STATUTES ACCORDING TO THE PRESERVATION OF OUR OWN INTERESTS, EVEN DEMOGRAPHICALLY SPEAKING.

    What you and the others FAIL to see here is that having a tighter immigration system doesn’t necessitate to inflexibility. It ensures that Bajans have a secured foundation of resources readily available for them. As for foreigners an immigrants, the policies that I just proposed enables for there to be MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY but essentially PROTECTS OUR HARD EARNED RESOURCES FOR BAJANS! That is what Europe, America, Canada, Singapore, and other PROSPEROUS AND COMPETITIVE ECONOMIES ARE DOING!

    “Do you care to see what those “swath of Euros and Indos ” do in Barbados ? Probably not, as you are too busy enjoying the fruits of life in another land which was built on the backs of immigrants of all races.”

    Firstly, I was Born here in America to TWO BAJAN PARENTS (before going to primary school IN Bim). Secondly, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF THE U.S. WERE BUILT ON THE BACKS OF SLAVES (WHO DIDN’T VOLUNTARILY EMIGRATE TO AMERICA). The immigrants came much later as an effect of the industrialization “revolution” sparked by the years of industry built from slave labour.

    And I see VERY WELL what those expats are doing, and they’re doing a very good job at it. It is by no means a coincident that the majority of the nation’s economy is in fact in the hands of those respective expatriate communities. This has essentially enabled for these foreigners to establish a plutocratic system in which they squalor off of the revenues that the BLACK MAJORITY of the nation puts into their pockets.

    You don’t want to get me started on having me breakdown what needs to change. You and others who accuse me of being “racist” are foolish in that you feed into this need (fueled by external parties) to be “politically correct”. And it is that same desperate move to uphold this facade that will be the end of the nation. Even SWITZERLAND has acted in their own interests as an effect of the risk of external influences on domestic affairs, and it has worked for that tiny country ever since.


  59. Brudah-Bim

    ^^Again, that was me not being mindful of what window I’m on.^^

  60. robert ross

    @ Anonymous who may be BB

    “We are here and open to do business”…exactly….you don’t need the rest.

  61. robert ross

    @ BFP

    I wonder what the significance is of the logo on the T shirt and tote bag – something we haven’t discussed. The Company is British based. Is there evidence that these items are being used or worn here? I can’t imagine your average racist carrying a tote bag though he might want to sleep in the shirt as also might a white person with a low self-esteem.. It occurs to me that the object is to advertise Bim and to make the point (in a rather sick way) that we are a mixed society..in other words the shirts are meant to be worn by white people – not black – in a jokey sort of way like one with a logo which reads ‘I’m a bum’ or a shirt worn by a black person which says ‘Hey Nigger’ as if speaking affectionately to a brother. In other words, neither the shirt nor the tote bag are racist. The inference is that BFP wants us to consider them so, isn’t it, given that one’s first reaction is one of horror and particularly when conjoined with the subject matter of the post? Or is BFP an agent for the Company? If so, I’ll buy one!

  62. robert ross

    Oh and yes…with 189 ‘Vote for brains not skin’. Vote Barbados FREE party.

  63. BFP

    Hello Robert Ross

    We don’t know anything about the bags and shirts except they came up when we googled “Barbados white trash” to find more on the Terry Schwarzfled murder.

    We presume they were created in response to Barbados Underground’s racist comments about the Canadian tourist who was murdered, but we might be wrong.

    Perhaps the originators of the cafepress products will come forward.

  64. Mark Fenty

    Anonymous, are you advocating an exclusionist doctrine with respect to Barbados Immigration policy, aren’t we all West Indians here my friend? Why abandon our West Indian neighbors in they most vulnerable time of
    need? This kind of thinking undermine the very essence of what it means to be Barbadian, or West Indian for that matter.

  65. Mark Fenty

    As West Indian people we have to think of ourselves as one people, with one common destiny, and what concerns one should concern the rest. I’ve since realized that only abroad, West Indian people truly understand the, true authenticity of what is means to be West Indian. Apart from our: athletics, academics, politics, common history, culinary art, and
    racial physiognomies, nothing else truly connects us as people, if we really think about it fundamentally. In other words, there aren’t a set “vaules”, “ideals”, and “convictions” that cement us together as a people. Unfortunately, for West Indian people, the commonalities that cement us together, are only realized when we interact with each other in far away foreign lands.

  66. Mark Fenty

    As West Indian people we need to unlearn, and relearn what it truly means to be West Indian. We aren’t a group of people living on this out of the way Archipelago, with a disjointed sense of directionality. We are a group of
    people with common aims, common goals, and a common history, aiming to leave an irremovable imprint on the pages of history.

  67. Mark Fenty

    We can abandon our title as Barbadians and integrated under banner of West Indians. We can abandon or title as West Indians and integrated under the banner of Africans. We can abandon our title as Africans and
    integrated under banner of humans beings, you see where I’m going with this? In reality the strongest bond that connects us is our human bond friends, titles are only superficial .

  68. BFP

    Mark said: “Unfortunately, for West Indian people, the commonalities that cement us together, are only realized when we interact with each other in far away foreign lands.”

    How true, Mark.

    I’ve seen that dozens of times everywhere around the world when West Indians are thrown together. Interesting too is that any sort of colour or social status barriers tend to disappear when we meet abroad. It is the most fascinating observation if you think about it at the time!


  69. robert ross

    @ BFP

    Remind me….the fellow pleaded guilty to manslaughter. Yes? Why wasn’t he charged with murder? Was this another plea bargain?

  70. robert ross

    @ BFP

    Following up your feedback on T shirts, last evening I followed up every link I could find on the Terry S murder – both here and on BU to which (as you know) I contribute. There were two fellas, whom you properly name, who were responsible for the nastiness. David did not seek to stop it – and it’s arguable, I suppose, that that was right. Other bloggers were very sympathetic to the family of Terry S and slated the two ‘nasties’. But now, the interesting thing is that certainly one was resident in the US, for which he had no regard. Why is it, I wonder, that it seems to be that it’s these kind of people, from abroad, who often seem to be the most racially conscious? Neither of those people seem to write on BU now – but, of course, as I’m learning, people do seem to operate under different names or change their names.

    Incidentally, was it here on BFP that some time ago you posted the murder case where the family were upset because the DPP had accepted a manslaughter plea and the trial judge had given the fella five years insinuating that there had been elements of provocation and self-defence? I’ve looked for it but can’t find it. It is with that in mind I posted my comment on the case this week.

  71. St George's Dragon

    Yet more racism hits the press today with Sir Roy Trotman’s rant about Diamonds International and “Egyptian Jew” comment. See http://www.nationnews.com/index.php/articles/view/sir-roy-hell-no/
    There is no excuse for this.

  72. Chris

    Roy Trotman is a jackass. The context of his words, even if not the intent, were a racial slur against Jews.

    He should apologise or resign. But he probably will not do either, because he is a jackass!!

    In that event, the matter needs to be reported internaitonally, including the Hague.

  73. Chris

    per the nation quoting Little Man Trotman, “If I have said something that has offended anyone, show me where the offence is; when I see the offence, I am big enough to apologize for it,” he said.

    “I never set out to offend anyone, I never offended anyone, and therefore, there is nothing for me to be bothered about, but people take offence when none is given.”

    Is this jackass for real? He cannot see where he has offended? Tlell that to the many people worldiwde reading about this racial slur from the ‘Union Boss’ in Barbados.

    Bad enough the ratings agencies on our backs, now an idiot has to use racial slurs to make foreign investors run even further.

    One would think a bajan would know better. Bajans work everywhere including alongside Jewish people. Bajans should know that bigotry can attack them too and respect the moral that treating others with respect and dignity is a necessity, not just a moral right.

    But no, no he. Seriously, is he going senile, or just feeling irrelevant?

  74. Chris

    Why Rihanna was right!
    Bajans love to use the XXXX word. Why? Because it is descriptive and apt used in the right circumtance.

    Take Roy Trottie for example. After using racial references, he says there is no need to apologise.
    This is a perfect example of when bajans use the xxxx word. Why?

    It is so descriptive, succinct and to the poiint and when used correctly, poignant.

    So, for those of you living overseas and not understanding what Rihanna was referring to, here it is, a perfecvt example and here are bajan phrases to go with it, to describe:

    1) Stupse, he is a XXXX.



    4) That man is a xxxx!

    5) Yuh XXXX!

    There, an education in bajan terminology and why Rihanna was accurate!

  75. Inverness

    A murdered tourist is called “White Trash” and the comments are still up on the internet on a Barbados Underground blog and Barbadians are happy with that? I’ll spend my tourist dollars elsewhere thank you.

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  78. 37

    ya know if black men and women were more attracted to each other this would not happen , same goes for the white that come to Barbados and corrupt with SEX , mostly Sluts and Big Fat nasty whores!
    Ever young black ooking for white meat to get to N.America and Europe , WHORES! Fix your minds , most Barbadians don’t want to mix , thats ther right , leave people alone!

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