Chaos in the courts: Bar Association President shouts at Judge for Hearing

How backed up are our Barbados Courts?

“I just want a hearing!” Pilgrim yelled.

“I told you wait,” Acting Chief Magistrate Holder yelled back.

This much…

Courtroom shouting match

A SHOUTING MATCH erupted in a Bridgetown courtroom yesterday.

It was between prominent attorney and president of the Bar Association, Andrew Pilgrim, and Acting Chief Magistrate Deborah Holder arguing about the fate of an accused person who appeared in the District “A” Magistrates’ Court.

“I just want a hearing!” Pilgrim yelled.

“I told you wait,” Acting Chief Magistrate Holder yelled back.

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18 responses to “Chaos in the courts: Bar Association President shouts at Judge for Hearing

  1. just like to know

    I think Andrew Pilgrim need to be put in his place. What has happened to the Barbados Bar Association don’t they punish their members for their bad behaviour in Court? He seem to be having a field with every judge or magistrate he come in contact with, when he doesn’t get what he want.

  2. what will they think of next

    Andrew ought to know better. That is a poor example he is showing to others.
    He owes the Chief Magistrate an apology.

  3. J. Payne

    That’s a shame… Reminds me of the comment by President of Bahamas’ Bar Association.

    http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/headline-Privy-Council-still-needed,-says-Bahamas-Bar-Association-president-6798.html

    Bowe-Darville said Bahamians who suggest abandoning the Privy Council are “treading in very dangerous water.”

    “Criminally, it’s one thing. Civilly, when you’re dealing with financial matters and the economic impact of it, litigants who come before our court, they need that assurance that there is some place of last resort that is independent and seen to be independent,” said Bowe-Darville on Thursday .

    “Litigants who come before us with multi-million-dollar cases and they see us as a great financial center, they need the assurance that the Privy Council is there,” she said.


    If only these people cared about Barbados’ image as much…

  4. 38

    Should Pilgrim let his client suffer meanwhile?

  5. Mobert

    @what whill they think,

    Yes,Pillie should have just said, ;shucks Magistrate, I dont mind waiting ten years like every other litigant, hearing schmearing’

    That would suit y’all, nuh?

  6. blogger

    Pilgrim like the rest of bajan lawyers is a arrogant smug jackass. We have not heard he is thief yet like the rest of the lawyers but you never know. Pligrim thinks he is all that but he overrates himself and should stick to acting as a rasta in B movies.

  7. Anonymous

    You all have short minds. Isn’t this the same A. P who went into self-exile a few years ago? Since then, what has happened to make him change?

  8. The Watcher

    I’m not much of a legal eagle, but one thing I do see eminating from Andrew is his zeal to see the “old boys club” toppled, and some real transparency come to the justice system. What Judges don’t seem to realize is that many of the younger population doesn’t trust the current justice system and that mis-trust cannot lead anywhere good.
    If he is in his rights to have a hearing on behalf of his client, then why shouldn’t he have it?
    What Barbados needs badly is Standards, Regulation and Compliance reviews, across the board. From the Justice system, through the Public Service and down to the fish vendor and farmer. This way people know what to expect, the rules and procedures are clearly documented and when these processes are neglected, people have a path to seek their recourse!
    Barbados will get a serious wake-up call as we seem to be asleep in our folly of estabished status quo’s and hiarachies.
    But keep playing the fool, the fool will soon visit us!

  9. judicial cronyism

    Its a judges duty to clear his or her list and move cases along as in REAL work.

    Instead, these judges have their guaranteed cushy job for life and let things slide and slide.

    Pilgrim should’t have to yell at the judge to get a hearing for his client.

    How and why were these judges appointed and what do they bring to the table besides political favors?

  10. “…With the Barbados Evidence Act lacking sections #72 and #94 which pertain respectively to recording Police Interviews and setting the basis of an Officer’s behaviour and deportment then Civil Liberties of both Citizens & the RBPF remain in jeopardy according to the attorney who’s practised for the last 19 years.
    Barbados is one of the few places in the world which still do not have a Policy nor enact any guidelines of recording Interrogations, whereas St Vincent has far superior legislation and equipment concerning the same situation…” http://bit.ly/lq4BW2

  11. tweedley dum

    All I can say is why the hell the magistrate did not fine him for contempt of court……..Ehhhh………………

  12. EMANATING

    @ The Watcher
    “….but one thing I do see emanating from Andrew is his zeal to topple the old boys’ club” Based on what? Pilgrim’s blasting through the courts?

    What I see emanating is a man with a psychological problem

  13. By the skin on the teeth

    Cases can take ten and fifteen years in Barbados. I don’t blame Mr. Pilgrim. He is doing what a lawyer needs to do when the system is broken. I’d hire him any day to be my lawyer because he will not stand for injustice.

    Good for Mr.Pilgrim. Would there were more like him.

  14. David G. Brooks

    While I don’t condone the behavior, someone needs to stand up to the Magistrates as they seem to behave as if they are the only ones with blood running their veins sometimes … I perceive a VAST difference in how Magistrates conduct court and how a Judge does, I would feel I would get more justice with a Judge than with a Magistrate, and no doubt this is not only my feeling.

    In effect, I see or perceive Magistrates (in general, maybe not all) as being Judge, Jury and Executioner and that to me, does not serve justice, and at times requires one to spend additional money to move up the line in order to get a proper hearing. Thankfully I have never been in this position, and hope I never have to, but just reading the Court News in the local papers, hearing other accounts and spending one day in a magistrates court many years ago for a speeding offense – doing 85km/h on the ABC H/Way 3 weeks for it went from 60 to 80 – and watching how the magistrate conducted court was in my opinion appalling – the phrase “law unto one’s self” seemed apt.

  15. Pieter Pieper

    Some of us have become so accustomed to “waiting”,to hearing “the file can’t be found”,and so many other excuses for time-wasting that we believe that the latter is an acceptable and praiseworthy norm.We will therefore feel that Pilgrim should fall in line and accept the status quo.So often do we hear those whose duty it is to serve the public both in private and public enterprises ,when pushed to render efficient and prompt service, lash out with “buh wait,wuh wrong wid you ? You is a russian? Yuh ain rushin me !”What is one supposed to do when some magistrates are late in starting court,take extended lunches and finish their working day early?How are you supposed to react if it is the fourth or fifth time you have taken time off to show up with your lawyer ?Remember,when lawyers attend court,wait around all day for a case to be called and it is not called or “heard”,lawyers will still charge their clients just for showing up.Magistrates should be held to account and upbraided when and where necessary.Who wants to wait ten years for a case to be heard?

  16. bk

    I back my man Pilly any day, how many other lawyers actually try to help people, especially those of the lower strata of society. Magistrates, judges, lawyers, police, all of them does fcuk around with peoples lives, on a daily basis. Where else in the world does someone wait ten years or more for the dispensation of justice? We in Barbados are quickly sliding down a slippery slope. When people start taking the law into their own hands, or actively seek out those whom they deem to have been a hindrance to their lives, then we will see.

  17. civilsociety

    He should have been thrown in jail for contempt! Who does he think he is talking to a magistrate that way!

  18. Idiot Madman

    Sorry, he probably did not know that the mahistrate was ‘god’.

    But is it possibly true that he could be the next CJ?