Sir Charles Williams “Welcome to our home and Barbados”


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Thanks to an old friend for directing us to this most interesting video profile of Sir Charles O. Williams.

Quote from COW Williams: “I am a poor loser. A good loser is always a loser.”

Narrator: “His voracious land buying has caused concern at the highest level.”

Response from COW Williams: “The Prime Minister made the message very clear… He said (my land buying) was having an impact on the social structure… and I obeyed him like a good obedient boy.”

COW on his ambitions in life: “There were three ambitions I had. A pretty wife, a nice sports fisherman and a fast sports car. I had all and all three cost me a fortune.”

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69 responses to “Sir Charles Williams “Welcome to our home and Barbados”

  1. The man wiv no name!!

    Why do I find this **** such a bore! Maybe it’s cos he seems to can’t stop bragging about his achievement! Yawn!! COW, how about more widely, helping the less fortunate than you. Do that and I’ll have more respect for you!

  2. The man wiv no name!!

    and BTW COW, ‘pretty’ is a matter of opinion. iv seen ur wife and, in my view, she isn’t that pretty! such a bore!!

  3. Anonymous

    This is the reason why we have to stop saying to our children that they should go to school and get a good job. In some instances they end up in jobs they don’t like.

    We need to start teaching our children how to be entrepreneur, and how to invest in stocks, shares and real estate.

    We teach our children to that after the “fine job” then “invest in massive home” and buy a high end vehicle. A home is not an investment unless you have plans of rent some of the rooms in it, or selling it when the market is good.

    It is the reason why our education system is failing many because everyone can’t be a lawyer. Therefore we need to teach our children from primary school level the importance of becoming they own boss.

    Persons argue that it might be a problem having too many businesses, and not enough workers, but doesn’t every business work for someone else?

    Congrats to Sir Williams on his achievements. I have always heard his workers speak highly of him. He treats them relatively well.

  4. rasta man

    Heard that COW wasn’t all that he says he is. It was his first wife that he got most of his money from.

  5. rasta man

    Then when he had got enough ,he dropped her like a hot potato. Maybe in his opinion she wasn’t “PRETTY” enough

  6. John

    What I found most interesting in the clip are the views of the two caves, one at Sandy Lane and the other at Apes Hill.

    While they are beautiful to behold they tell a story of what is under the surface in these locations …… and others around the island.

    Both caves appear in what were once quarry sites. The quarries have been done up beautifully and the caves add to the beauty but they also tell a story.

    They appear to be almost identical in shape.

    There are serious lessons to be learnt about the geology of Barbados in that clip if you look closely.

    Turn off the sound and watch it so you are not distracted when those two views appear.

  7. John

    Ooops … looks like the same cave on closer inspection!!

    The roof is probably thick enough to support a house but a wise thing before building in the area would be to get someone with ground penetrating radar to advise on what is under ground.

  8. HM

    This is from Trevor McDonald’s Secret Caribbean, made for British TV around a year or two ago.

    Family and friends here in the UK were appalled. Barbados being bought, left, right and centre – yet Barbadians do not question a thing. At least the then Prime Minister – David Thompson – opened his mouth.

    Will Barbadians ever wake up?

  9. Apes Hill villa owner

    Cow should thank successive black governments for giving him lots of easy money contracts that make him the sickening geriatric braggart he is like he bugly brother Bizzy. What a travesty of justice BFP why you dont do a story on Elombe Mottley winning a prize from David Commisong Clement Payne movement or that too African for you hehehe there goes a mottlley crew COW, Elombe Elton, Commissiong and Mia oh lawd.

  10. bim

    y r ppl in bim so jealous of da man……..

  11. El Goog

    @bim

    You hit the nail on the head. Rather than see the man for the hard working individual he is and use him as inspiration – i.e. hard work DOES pay off – the narrow minded and ignorant posters on this site can only see fit to insult his family.

    It seems that nowadays, more often than not, I’m embarrassed to be a Bajan.

  12. Nostradamus

    As the narrator said “if you have the money anything is possible in the Caribbean….” even having “proper pork” in your home!

  13. Sickened

    I am appalled that a man would have the nerve to say that he was asked by the PM to stop buying land because he was interfering with the social fabric of a country – and laugh it off!!! What does he want to – buy Barbados?? And what does he want Bajans to do ?? The poor people should all leave and the rich live with him……………I am disgusted!

  14. Politically Tired

    Lot of green eyed monsters about, don’t forget he employs a lot of people.

  15. just want to know

    Jealousy is like a cancer it eats at the very core of the system, and never get anyone anywhere. Why not teach Barbadians to be entrepreneur, stop having more than one family at a time, and save their money. C.O.W empl0y over 500 persons, pays them well and look after them when they are sick, how many employers in Barbados do that? When persons are jealous it’s a terrible thing.

  16. JustSayingBajan

    I am not a fan of CO Williams. Though CO Williams has hired many Black people over the years, he has rarely hired them to do anything other than physical labour or low level office work. To give an example, back in the eighties there was a big write up about him in the Nation or Advocate. The photos in the article told the story of what he is all about.

    The photos showed that the supervisors and managers at the profiled company were all White, except for one young supervisor who appeared to be no more than 18 years old. He appeared to be Indian or mixed race. I thought it was sad that out of all of the Black men who worked for CO Williams over the years and helped him to become rich, he couldn’t find one who he thought could serve as a supervisor. He picked a young non Black man who looked like he had just graduated from high school to supervise Black men two and three times his age and with much more experience.

    The photos showed that all of the people who did physical labour were Black men and that Black women held the low level office jobs, while the higher level office jobs were held by White women. What I found interesting was that there was a White British woman working in the office who boasted that she had never held a job for more than a year. I wondered how a White woman who had never held a job for more than a year could come to Barbados and get a job at CO Williams’ company when there were so many Black Bajans with many years of experience looking for work.

    Recent photographs that I have seen show that things have not changed at CO Williams’ companies. After all of these years, he still doesn’t seem to think that Black people are competent enough to serve as supervisors or managers. Either that or, like many White Bajans, he just doesn’t want to be in the company of Black folks beyond a certain level.

    In recent years, he seems to have gotten caught up in trying to live the life of a British aristocrat. He dumped his wife of many decades and married a British woman who supposedly is a distant relative of the British Royal Family. He was knighted by the Queen of England and rumour has it got pissed off because a Bajan did not address him as “Sir Charles” after he was knighted. He is into playing polo now. For a while he seemed driven to turn all of Barbados into a playground for the rich and famous. He went too far when he tried to force some Black Bajans who had been living on land next to one of his housing developments to move, so he could expand the development for rich White foreigners. I think that was the turning point, the point where it became clear that his allegiance is with White people no matter where they are from and not with Black Bajans. The Prime Minister knew Black folks were going to be up in arms and told “Sir Charles” that enough was enough.

    I know the usual subjects will say I am green with envy, but I am not, lol. The fact is that CO Williams was going down a path to causing Barbados to become recolonised, with wealthy foreign born Whites and others (He said once that Trinidadians had bought many of the lots at one of his developments) owning most of the land and with Black Barbadians not being able to own land and being forced to squat wherever they could. I wonder if the house that fell into the cave at Arch Cot would have been built on that spot if the owner of the property could have afforded a better piece of land elsewhere? Neighbors said nobody had ever built on that spot until shortly before the cave in.

    There is an old saying, “Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.” I am not that old. In my lifetime, I saw poor Black Bajans from my grandparents’ generation living in poverty. During my parents generation and my generation, Blacks started to make social and financial gains. Now, because people like CO Williams decided to make Barbados a place for the rich and famous without giving much thought to the repercussions for poor Blacks, I see the next generation of Black Bajans being tossed right back into the situation Blacks from my grandparents’ generation were in. They will have to choose between migrating to foreign countries, which are becoming increasingly hostile to immigrants, or stay in Barbados and live in one of the tiny, cramped, unsightly “housing projects” that the government is building for Black Bajans. The U.S. government is tearing down many of the housing projects that they built years ago, because they became drug and crime infested hell holes. I see no reason why the Bajan versions won’t suffer the same fate.

    Many Bajans, like the ones ranting about Bajans being envious of CO Williams, have forgotten the past. They will continue to support him as he and his offspring help to bring in and set up their new masters.

    PS,
    Don’t waste your time engaging in name calling with me. I will laugh at your comments.

  17. JustSayingBajan

    Oops! sorry about the length of my previous comment.

  18. Tre

    Any black Bajan who sold land to COW on the buying spree he boasting about should be drawn and quartered the govertnment should consider where necessary to compulsorily acquire any land this selfish greedy cow bought .Without doubt in that land buying spree racism involved. Just Want To Know its the workers helping to make COW rich not other way around COW workers scrunting.

  19. Micah

    The laws of Barbados must have allowed Cow to buy all the land that he wished to buy, once he had the money. If there was concern that he had too much land and wanted to get more, then change the laws. To change the laws means politicians need to go to Parliament and vote to do so. If that didn’t happen, then don’t blame him for wanting to achieve a certain level of financial and personal success and going out and doing it.

  20. BFP

    Hi Micah,

    Robert here. I agree with you 100%, but you have to understand that here in Barbados we don’t do things by changing the law for everyone. We decide what we want to do and then change the law to suit our decision – and sometimes our decision is based only upon what we want to happen for one person.

    That’s why we changed the law for our new Chief Justice. We wanted to have something happen for ONE PERSON and that’s what we did.

    Sometimes though we want a specific outcome for one person and we don’t want to bother to change the law so we just have the PM warn them. That’s what happened to COW.

  21. BFP

    Hi JustSayingBajan,

    Never apologize for the length of your argument or the passion. We may disagree with each other on this or any topic, but as long as we talk civil without name calling or degenerating into threats or wild-eyed racist comments, what the hell.

    Point I’d like to bring up and I don’t know the answer off the top of my head and I’m too lazy to look right now because I’m heading out the door: Wasn’t the home that fell into the cave built some decades ago? You say it was recently built and I don’t think that is the case. Marcus or Clive or anybody, can you comment on this issue?

    Thankyou,
    Robert

  22. Neil Hutchinson

    ….@HM & Apes Hill Villa Owner……I would prefer a Barbadian buying Barbados/property in Barbados any day over a foreigner…not that I have anything personal against foreigners as my wife is one…but we need to support our own…..and what is wrong with a Barbadian reinvesting his money in Barbados….would you prefer he took it elsewhere???….really!

  23. Politically Tired

    JustSayingBajan supervisors at C.O.Williams are about 50/50 black & white, my ‘other half’ has worked there for 24 years so supposed that’s fairly accurate ( the other half is not a supervisor & of the very much darker shade!)

  24. 61

    {JustSayingBajan
    April 30, 2011 at 11:08 pm
    Oops! sorry about the length of my previous comment.}

    Is nothing to be sorry for jsb every word you say is true and every Bajan white fully backs the COWilliams set up. I like you am not a fan of CO Williams though you should know the man got black ass lickers at every turn. The feature you speak of in the eighties was done by one Al Gilkes there was a feature around 2002 or so in the Nation produced by that jackass Mike Williams nowadays he calls himself Mike Will he’s COw pr the late Ikel Tafari commented then that every single one of CO Williams numerous companies was headed by white people in a 95% black country where the lion share of CO. Williams riches is derived from black taxpayers. It speaks volumes about what this old arrogant whiteman thinks about blacks. This utter racist bullcrap could only happen in Barbados.

  25. John

    Politically Tired
    April 30, 2011 at 8:17 pm
    Lot of green eyed monsters about, don’t forget he employs a lot of people.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    “Never Enough” is “Never Enough” for the simple reason that the actual economic activity of construction can never get enough land, …. never get enough water …. never get enough imports ……. just never be satisfied.

    I believe Sir Cow adopts the phrase as his own and changes its meaning because that is what the economic activity in which he is involved requires.

    The employment of the many Bajans is predicated on this.

    Once a project ends another needs to start otherwise layoffs ensue.

    The thinking more suits a large land mass with large natural resources, land and water but even China where there are enormous undeveloped resources is being bitten by unbridled development.

    A small fragile coral island like Barbados rapidly becomes a China Shop into which a Bull is introduced.

    “Never Enough”, the name on the fising boat denotes to me the owner can’t get enough of the sea, … fishing and relaxing.

    I could be wrong.

    I know the name of another fishing boat that perhaps still operates out of the Bridgetown fishing complex. It isn’t nearly as fast as “Never Enough” and far less fancy.

    It is called “Time Will Tell”!!

    Wonder what the owner meant by that phrase when he/she chose it to name the boat.

    Perhaps Sir COW can diversify his construction operations to China where I am told there is a building boom because sooner rather than later “Time Will Tell” in Barbados.

  26. Karl Watson

    Despite John’s attempt to divert our interest with his comment on the cave(s), it is quite apparent that any discussion on race elicits a range of opinions. The importance of race, real or imagined in human society is a given, even though the anthropologists/scientists tell us that in reality there is just one human race, homo sapiens and that’s it. However, about 99% of us would disagree. Thirty years of teaching history at university taught me that the one topic that was guaranteed to draw responses from everyone in a class, even the most introverted wallflower, was race. Because it is a topic that stirs emotions, most public discussions are subject to unsubstantiated generalizations.
    In the clip shown, two such generalizations are made. One, that Sir Charles Williams owns most of the land in Barbados. Secondly, most if not all Barbadian whites are descendants of slaveowners.
    From the comments made, one could similarly extract other examples of generalizations.
    To quote Bacon: “What is truth said doubting Pilate, and would not stay for an answer.” But let us see if we can get any answers to the following questions.
    Of the 106,00 acres of Barbadian land, how many does Sir Charles own? I do not know the answer, but I would certainly be curious to find out.
    Of the total number of employees of the extended Williams conglomerate, we need the following precise data for an informed discussion: what percentage are “white” and what percentage are”black”…and from there, the corollary, what are the corresponding percentages for management. Since comparison is a valid technique for any science based enquiry, it would be illuminating to find out the comparable statistics for other large employers, say the Civil Service or any major “black” owned company.
    Regarding slave ownership, historical statistics show that over the period of slavery, thirty five percent of Barbadian whites owned no slaves and another forty percent owned less than five slaves. We remain so enthralled by the rich white man, poor black man syndrome that we often forget that the majority of Barbadian whites were dirt poor until the late nineteen sixties and seventies, when numbers of them were drawn into the expanding middle class. But the mythology of the homogeneous, rich white Barbadian is so pervasive, that we frequently see/hear the common errors/misconceptions exhibited by the commentators on this thread and elsewhere. There is much academic work still to be done on the social pathology of race in Barbados and to explain why it is that the generalized view is that race assumes greater prominence and generates greater interest in this island. The perceptions we know, the reality still eludes us.

  27. JustSayingBajan

    Robert, regarding the Arch Cot situation,

    Something that I read led me to believe the house was recently built. If anyone knows otherwise, please correct me.

  28. John

    Karl Watson

    Of the total number of employees of the extended Williams conglomerate, we need the following precise data for an informed discussion: what percentage are “white” and what percentage are”black”…and from there, the corollary, what are the corresponding percentages for management. Since comparison is a valid technique for any science based enquiry, it would be illuminating to find out the comparable statistics for other large employers, say the Civil Service or any major “black” owned company.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    This is impossible to answer with any precision without interviewing each employee with the extended Williams conglomerate and each employee in the Civil Service to ask them if they consider themselves to be “black” or “white” since may Bajans are a mixture!!!!

    Scientific discovery on the issue of race will not work in Barbados since the race construct in Barbados is not based on science.

    With regard to slave ownership in the 1817 returns about 10% of the total number of slave owners (about 6000) were classified as FN or FM …. that is to say Free Negro or Free Mulatto.

    Sarah Ann Gill, our National hero … or heroine …. was one such FM owning slaves.

    About 600 people of colour owned slaves.

    On the other hand, the existence (or not) of a cave and the load its roof will bear is nowhere as complex and unanswerable. It is a matter of simple observation and measurement.

    Where the difficulty arises is when the cave is hidden underground and can’t be seen without the use of specialised equipment.

  29. JustSayingBajan

    Karl Watson,

    This is a blog. Most of the people who comment here are Black “every day” Bajans who use this site to express our feelings to each other or about each other and others in Bajan society and elsewhere. Most of us are not university professors and are not trying to have very high level discourse with each other, though I try to make reasonably intelligent comments. We are not going to do major research before making each comment to make sure everything we say is plausible. We mostly voice our opinions here. Those who object to our opinions can do research and collect data and publish it here for everyone to see.

    We use this site to vent, because we are unable to express ourselves freely in the colonial era minded Bajan mainstream media, which protects prominent people like CO Williams. When Bajans mention the names of prominent people like CO Williams on “Down to Brasstacks” on VOB, they are cut off. When we write comments about them on mainstream media websites, on the rare occasion when anything is written about them, the comments are not published. The blogs are the only places we Black Bajans can go to, to voice our opinions freely.

    We form our opinions by observing things in society. When Johan Bjerkhamn, the son of a prominent White man who had 40 guns in his home, killed his son, we noticed the mainstream media that puts poor Black people’s business out for everyone to see every day did not want to cover the story. The blogs were very slow to cover it also. We also noticed that the police would not go into his hospital room to question him and allowed him to flee the country on a private jet without being questioned. Now Mr. Watson, you know that if a Black Bajan had killed his or her child, he or she would have been hauled off to jail immediately and not allowed to have his or her attorneys dictate what the police would and would not do. We who comment on the blogs don’t feel the need to do research to find out what percentage of Black parents get away with killing their children compared to what percentage of White parents get away with it. We know what was and is still at play in that story.

    Jane Shattuck, the White American wife of Greg Hoyos, let the readers of her blog know that her brother-in-law, Patrick Hoyos, was able to call up the Attorney General, Adriel Brathwaite, and get her name placed on a list of “cleared” people at the Grantley Adams airport, because she was unhappy with the way Bajan immigration officers treated her. We who comment on blogs don’t feel compelled to do research to find out how many Whites compared to how many Blacks are able to get the Attorney General to have their names placed on a “cleared” list. We know the Attorney General would not grant a request from a poor Black Bajan to have his or her name placed on a “cleared” list at the Grantley Adams airport.

    You can use all of the academic lingo you want, Mr. Watson, but we who comment on the blogs know what is up in Barbados.

  30. Karl Watson

    Dear Just Saying Bajan,
    You have made my essential point very clear and far more succinctly than I did. We think “we know” but the sad truth is that most of the time “we” surmise, guess, repeat gossip or invent half truths…almost always under the cloak of anonymity. Like you, I value the existing blogs as they provide a welcome opportunity for many of us, regardless of class or race, to communicate/vent. What I find distasteful, is the frequency with which venom, hate and downright nasty comments are introduced into the discourse.
    I agree that in most societies, ours included, the rich, the powerful are often allowed to get away with things, though sometimes people are scapegoated to administer lessons ..e.g. the Mark Goodridge fiasco which was headlined in pretty one sided fashion for three days running in one of our local papers. The commentary in the blogs on that occasion represents a goldmine for sociologists which will be used one day.
    Now, I don’t “know” this and perhaps you can tell me: Would a poor “white” Barbadian be accorded the same treatment as a rich “black” Barbadian? Would not the class differential/ability to wield influence kick in here? Food for thought!

  31. JustSayingBajan

    Karl Watson,

    As I mentioned on another thread weeks ago, I think it is sad that CO Williams and his brother, who devote a great deal of time to building new homes and structures for wealthy foreigners, don’t seem to be interested in helping to preserve historic sites in Barbados. I saw in the video that CO Williams has preserved the home he lives in, but there are many other buildings that could be saved.

    As the President of the Barbados National Trust, Mr. Watson, I think you should try to get some funds from wealthy people like the Williams brothers to try to save some historic sites. Honestly, it is starting to get kind of annoying watching members of the BNB show up after- the- fact to complain about demolished properties.

    CO Williams’ British wife who probably has never done anything for Barbados stands to inherit much of Barbados when he dies. I don’t see why you couldn’t try to get a few dollars, dollars that were made off of the physical labour of Blacks, from him before she makes out like a bandit.

    Keep reading and contributing to this blog, Mr. Watson. In order to maintain a reasonable level of discourse (We are not shooting for the level you are accustomed to in academia), it is important that a diverse group of people comment on the issues.

  32. JustSayingBajan

    Karl Watson,

    I was typing my last comment at the same time you were typing yours, so if it looks like I have dismissed what you said, I have not. I did not see your latest comment until I submitted mine. I will respond to your latest comment later, because I am on my way out. I also want to look into the Mark Goodridge case, because I am not familiar with that case.

  33. conundrum

    It must have posed a real dilemna for the previous PM of Barbados having to tell a senior citizen masquerading as a blind ambitious young adolescent, some things he should already have been sensitive to.

    On the one hand, COW is self made and he and his staff and his partners create jobs and real value for Barbados.

    On the other hand, David Thompson’s financial bagman like Duprey and Parris were picking the pockets of Clico policy and shareholders with over inflated Ponzi schemes using associated unregulated shell companies. The only thing created by their actions was wanton theft and destruction of a company that was built over decades.

    COW needs to recognize that his unsatiated lust for land and power can only be recognized in a larger pond and follow through on his threat. A foreigner buying and owning land in China for polo fields and golf courses would be a real challenge.

    https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/sir-charles-cow-williams-whines-im-not-investing-in-barbados-anymore/

    Time will tell

  34. John

    conundrum
    May 1, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    COW needs to recognize that his unsatiated lust for land and power can only be recognized in a larger pond and follow through on his threat. A foreigner buying and owning land in China for polo fields and golf courses would be a real challenge.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Bingo,

    That will be the real test of the man and his portrayal of himself.

    My gut is it ain’t goin happen …… don’t mind all the words and posturing!!

    Meanwhile here in Barbados, we are stuck with a Bull in a China Shop.

  35. John

    On a somewhat unrelated note, the Doppler Radar picture if believed by any one would probably not have indicated the flods we had this morning.

    It does not seem to have changed for it seems like eons.

    I am not even going to put in the link.

    The Guadelope Radar shows there is worse to come.

    Tonight should be interesting.

    http://www.meteo.fr/temps/domtom/antilles/pack-public/animation/animMOSAIC2.html

    I guess the 1 in a 100 year rainfall consideration which engineers consider when designing for construction may need to be relooked!!

  36. John

    Hopefully it will bypass Bim.

  37. John

    Man … the Guadeloupe radar shows that is exactly what happened.

    Amazing.

    It is at times like these that Bajans claim that God is one of us.

    Would be nice if the Barbados radar were working so we could see a bit further but for now, it looks as though we might be in the clear.

  38. dedawgster

    Just Saying Bajan you write as an intelligent, educated man…what a pity your intelligence and education is suppressed by your ego and pride when you state “We are not going to do major research before making each comment to make sure everything we say is plausible. We mostly voice our opinions here. Those who object to our opinions can do research and collect data and publish it here for everyone to see.” Your preference for a preferred outcome derived from emotional biases has reduced you to an ordinary bozo…and when you state “we”, please be advised you would never speak for me and those people I know. We depend upon our spokespeople having a data base of verified fact before venturing an opinion. But hey, its a democracy and you are entitled to do as you have done in writing and make an ass of yourself.

  39. Rubbert

    @John ‘Would be nice if the Barbados radar were working so we could see a bit further but for now’

    Cuh dear, for the Barbados radar to work we will need a commission of enquiry, a board to discuss next steps, a BOLT contract paying millions to an offshore company, an engineer to assess it, a second ‘foreign’ engineer to assess it again, a sub-contractor to do the actual work that the offshore company was contracted to do, a team of workmen, a voting on additional monies by Parliament for the cost overrun and finally it will be working……after four years, at which time that particular system will be obsolete and we will need to start the process over again, by another government etc etc…..

  40. rasta man

    @rubbert.: I just love it . too true.

  41. JustSayingBajan

    Dedawgster,

    There is a time and a place for everything. The Barbados Free Press is not the place to come to if you are looking for people with databases full of verified facts. THIS IS A BLOG!!! This is a place where ordinary citizens come to voice our OPINIONS about topics the people who run the blog should have researched. If you want to see spokespeople with databases of verified facts, you should go to a university and sit in an auditorium and listen to historians, psychologists, or other professionals speak. Another thing you can do is watch a TV news roundtable show on which guests armed with verified facts are assembled.

    I said in my comment that we will not do MAJOR research. That does not mean that one should not take some time to read up on the topic at hand. For example, Karl Watson mentioned the Mark Goodridge case. I am not familiar with that case, so I have opted to wait until I read up on it to comment on it.

    Anyway, it is being reported that Osama Bin Laden is dead, so I am going to log out and go and watch the news. I expect the reporters on the news to have verified facts, because the TV station is not a blog.

  42. dimwit

    Interesting that the Nation on Sunday May 1st. ran an entire section (24 pages in all) on a certain black company – Everson R. Elcock & Co, Ltd.,
    On the leading page is a full photograph of almost 60 employees – all black, not one white or pretend white face in the crowd. In the ensuing pages only black faces appear.
    I wonder what JustSayingBajan has to say. Or is it only white owned companies who should hire employees of different ethnic backgrounds?

  43. MANJAK

    Re. Karl Watson/Dedawgster
    Here I am very much with you.
    Because BFP is a blog site open for varied opinions does not give one licence not to think before posting pig ignorant unsubstantiated bilge, gossip and tosh. The so called citizen journalism can be entertaining and enlightening but it can also be an avenue where the homophobic, the racists the misogynistic the conspiracy theorists and peddlers of trash congregate to spout their rambling ill informed nonsense. Words do have consequences.
    Are we to take the unhinged Tea Party/Fox News/Sarah Palin ludicrous utterances seriously……………it may come as a surprise but many do and the consequences can be deadly as was recently demonstrated in Texas.
    Cow Williams/Bizzy Williams are not rich and powerful men in Barbados because they are in possession of any specific or special intellectual ability but because they are of that tiny white ethnic group who have always held economic and social pre eminence. Firstly in colonial times and now consolidated in the post independence era in alliance with the brown and black Bajan middle class, Syrian and Indian capital.
    This new and growing alliance is one not now of colour only but of class, though I believe the white component is still dominant. They have been helped uncritically by a succession of black political clowns of both parties brown nosing, sycophantic shufflealongs, tugging at their forelocks with one hand and the other outstretched for the inevitable kickback and bribe.
    Sometime ago David Comissiong of the Peoples Empowerment Party/PEP inquired of Cow Williams as to the black directors of his companies, I may very much be wrong but so far I do not know of any response from him. His silence may well be demonstrative of his attitude to politicians, his employees and Barbados.

    PS Cow’s white pet pig it appears is of of more value to him than any broken down Bajan heritage building. Must be rather depressing Karl, must it not.

  44. Measurement

    It is amazing how some measure success. With free education some bajans waste it and then blame others for their non-achievements. There are some of us who have taken the risk and lost lots of money, ate biscuits and corn beef while others party their life away and run to the fast food and other restaurants. Success comes through sacrifice not spending $500.00 on a cropover costume for one day.

    So if Sir Charles has sacrificed and now in his old age is very successful booyah to you who he doesn’t appeal to. Go back to your partying and fast spending. In ten years tell me if you are any better off.

    Don’t be fooled there are a lot of black bajans who have money, they just don’t flaunt it like some who don’t have it. $1,700.00 for the latest blackberry????. In Debt for a new Kia Cerato?? Im going to spend $200.00 and still get calls and $15,000.00 on a car with spare change in my pocket! Get my drift and when my business starts to thrive in about 10 to 15 years I will then spend on luxury when I can afford it CASH no CREDIT!!

  45. rasta man

    @measurement.: I assume you are being sarcastic.If not, good for you.Hope you will be alive in 10 to 15 years to enjoy it all.

  46. @ Rastaman

    Thats why I started at age 18 and used free education to qualify myself, so I go my own profession,,, I am 27 now,,, used the money from that to buy 5 acres of land and farming it… .. By the way I don’t have a mortgage.. Got my own home, wife who works with me and two children…….. no mortgage on the house, car or land…:).. My $200.00 phone still works as well as my $15,000.00 car and farm vehicles. BTW i’m putting in solar and wind power to get light and power off my back.

    What age are you.? How is your bank account? And who are you going to work for in the morning? Are you afraid you won’t make thirty years of work to pay your mortgage?

    So I hope you are around in 10 to 15 to watch me and my family enjoy it.. Dread..;)

  47. dimwit

    Once again the proverbial white wool is being used to cover eyes of unsuccessful,unambitious,lethargic,gimme gimme,you owe me etc., black Nouveau Riche wannabees.Sandy Lane estates are owned by approximately 40+% blacks and the remaining by Expatriots and the handfull so called white ex slave masters,,,,,,,,,the government is 99.99999% black and government jobs are 99.9998% black occupied,,,,Bank posts are all 99.9999% occupied by blacks,,,,,,,BHTI is 99.95555% black,,,,,,,,etc.,,, etc.,,,,highly sought after land along the coast of North,South,East and West are owned by blacks,,,who readily sell out to foreign interest for future development that will in turn restrict their movemen,that will in turn be blamed on white suppression,,,,and on and on the road goes,,,,how do I know,,,Because I dont allow no Radical,trouble stirring,boulder on the shoulder,retrogadial thinking yardduck try to program my mental state of process.

  48. HM

    There are coastal towns in some parts of Britain where such a high proportion of houses have been sold as holiday homes that young local people are priced out of the market and have to move away. Barbados is a tiny island with one of the highest population densities in the world, yet it is going down this path and many of you cannot even see it. Where are your grand-children going to move to? High rise buildings like those in New York or into the sea? A lot of western countries are now making it much harder for people to emigrate to their countries.

    A lot of property in Barbados eventually ends up in the hands of foreign owners – individuals or consortia – and is unlikely to ever return to Barbadian hands again.

  49. Harry

    @HM
    There are very distinct Real Estate markets in Barbados.
    West Coast high-end millionaire properties are not really going to be of any interest to the average Bajan.
    Low income housing and housing areas are equally not likely to be of much interest to anybody investing from overseas.
    The biggest problem is the middle ground and, to my mind, forget COW Williams – it is the returning nationals, Bajan Brits and Yankees, who are allowing realtors to price the local middle-class out of decent, affordable housing in good areas. They earn more money overseas than can ever be earned locally and are quite happy to buy land in middle class developments and leave it undeveloped for years and years, waiting on their retirement
    (And yes, they are Bajan like the rest of us, so whether you think that is a problem is up to you. Fact is they are quite a force in the market.)

  50. J. Payne

    @Harry. [Quote] it is the returning nationals, Bajan Brits and Yankees, who are allowing realtors to price the local middle-class out of decent, affordable housing in good areas. They earn more money overseas than can ever be earned locally and are quite happy to buy land in middle class developments and leave it undeveloped for years and years, waiting on their retirement
    (And yes, they are Bajan like the rest of us, so whether you think that is a problem is up to you. Fact is they are quite a force in the market.) [ end quote]
    I think Barbados’ land law is to blame also. The Barbados government makes it more burdensome than its worth to rent out land. If you’re overseas and you let more than (what is it these days 3 houses?) building on your land the government will try to declare it a tenentry and take it from you and give to the people renting from you. Then sometimes, the people give you all kind of hassle and stop paying rent and you have a next tough time getting people evicted or trying to get the court make them move. At the end of the day renting land in Barbados is a hassle filled exercise that most people would rather not put up with from the jump start…
    With all the squatters rights nonsense it is easier to let the land sit idle and let someone put their sheep or old cow to eat grass and keep it from growing tall…

  51. JustSayingBajan

    Karl Watson,

    I tried to find information on that Mark Goodridge case you mentioned. All I could come up with are a couple of Barbados Free Press articles, one titled, “Barbados Lawyer Wanted for Beating of Teen – Thoughts of Racial Tension, White Privilege, and Black Attitudes,” dated October 16, 2006, and another titled, “The Strange Disappearing Court Cases of Barbados – And How the News Media Keeps Silent, dated January 30, 2008. The October 16, 2006, article references a Nation newspaper article. It is impossible to tell from the Nation’s article what really happened in the case. In the 2008 article, Barbados Free Press asks the questions, “What happened at trial? Was there a trial… or just a backroom deal?

    I have no clue what the outcome of that case was or if it is still going on. You said in a previous post, “We think “we know” but the sad truth is that most of the time “we” surmise, guess, repeat gossip or invent half truths.” What else can one do with that case but surmise, guess, repeat gossip or invent half truths? The mainstream media has opted not to tell the public details of the case.

    In a previous post you said, “Sometimes people are scapegoated to administer lessons ..e.g. the Mark Goodridge fiasco.” Perhaps you know the outcome of the case. Please tell us if you know. It is your opinion that the case was a fiasco. That is what this blog is all about. People voicing their opinions. You did not have to collect any data or facts to form your opinion. Now if only people like Manjak and Dedawgster would get the simple point that blogs are places where people go to chat and voice their opinions and should not have to act as if they are presenting a research paper each time they comment.

    Regarding your question, “Would a poor “white” Barbadian be accorded the same treatment as a rich “black” Barbadian? Would not the class differential/ability to wield influence kick in here? There has not been any precedence that I know of for me to give an answer on that. I have never seen a case in which a poor White Barbadian challenged a rich Black Barbadian in any situation. I have seen many cases in which poor Black Barbadians have gone up against wealthy White Barbadians and foreigners, so I can speak with more confidence about that scenario. Time will tell what would happen in the scenario you brought up.

  52. hey JustSayingBajan
    don’t lump all white folk in there, I’m what you would consider white (I’m actually a mutt of many hues but purebreds don’t see that) and I know alot of all-white people who can’t afford to buy land or home for their young families, including, sadly, me. If he has any allegiance its to the super rich, white, black or polka-dot…

  53. JustSayingBajan

    A little while ago on the news on VOB (12:35 p.m.) I heard Ralph “Bizzy” Williams say that though agricultural land is protected, there is still land available that could be sold to bring in foreign exchange. He said foreign exchange is what keeps the economy going. He said that people shouldn’t get upset if Trinidadians build manufacturing plants on land and sell the properties to Bajans for less than what Bajans could purchase them for in Barbados and create employment for Trinidadians.

    My question to Bizzy Williams is, “Why is land in Barbados so expensive?” He and his brother and their offspring are the main people who have been selling multi million dollar properties to wealthy foreigners. How can he now complain about land being too expensive?

    CO and Bizzy Williams have offspring who work in the construction, real estate, and interior decorating businesses. They want to keep selling land to keep money flowing into their offspring’s hands. They couldn’t care less if future generations of Black Bajans are landless. They only care about themselves.

    It infuriates me that the Black government of Barbados continues to listen to these “blankety blanks” and continues to sell off land that future generations of Bajans, who are overwhelmingly Black, will need to live on. I see cramped housing projects and all of the problems that come with them (crime, drugs, misery) on the horizon for Black Bajans if the Black government of Barbados does not do something to stop the nonsense. The Black people who will live in the housing projects will be the maids, nannies, and chauffers of the foreigners who will purchase the land the Williams’ brothers say needs to be sold for foreign exchange.

    That is my opinion. I am not going to do any research to determine the probability of that happening. Those who want facts and data can do research themselves.

    P.S.
    I think a lot of the flooding that is occurring in Barbados is the result of too much concrete on the island. I don’t recall so much flooding occurring in the past when the country was more rural. Someone on “Down to Brasstacks” voiced the same opinion today. I have no evidence that this is true. It is my opinion. Someone with more scientific knowledge can refute what I said if they want to.

  54. John

    Concrete could explain some ……

    …… but if you build a housing development in “Swampy Town” St. Lucy …. hey ….. don’t be surprised if the residents get flooded out occasionally although St. Lucy is a dry parish.

    …parts of Sunset Crest are built in a former cane ground called Swampy Ground!! Major gully systems discharge there.

    So occasionally parts of Sunset Crest and its environs floods … hey …. any old time Bajan from the area could have told the residents that. That’s why Sandy Lane is built on high ground.

    Similarly, if you build a housing development near a road called “Water Street” don’t be surprised either … or near a cane piece that was called Horse Pond …. or by a plantation that was called Water Grove.

    That’s the story of Wotton Housing Development. The land on which the development is built floods when the rain falls because it always did. A housing development won’t miraculously stop it.

    Wells will not stop the flooding. They may delay the onset or quicken the disappearance of standing water after the rainfall. But in between the land will flood … period.

    Bajans do not understand their own land today like their ancestors at one time did.

    The rush to make a dollar blinds many.

    Work stopped on plantations when rain fell not only because Bajans did not want to get wet but also because it was dangerous and added to the wear and tear on equipment and livestock.

    Everything became harder or more dangerous.

    In the Scotland District for example I have read old newspaper reports of individuals being washed away.

    So, in heavy rain, Bajans being at one time highly logical and sensible people, stayed put in whatever houses they had built for themselves.

    You can bet as humble as they might have been, they were built well out of harm’s way.

    Government has spent millions on the water course to the West of the Globe Cinema where people live nowadays but look at maps 50 years ago and you will see people never considered building in that location.

    Those millions were spent to avoid flooding.

    Who would consider developing around the Belle Gully for housing? Remember the girl who nearly got washed away and the images of the water.

    Today we chuckle at the old timers who avoided rain …. but I am sure thay are rolling on the ground laughing at us when they see the misery we endure in parts of the island they would avoid when the rain falls.

    Think Greenland!!

    Top brains were going to put a landfill there!!!

    Old timers from down that side could have told them don’t pelt away money!!!

  55. John

    … in fact, the old timers did.

    … but, if the GOB has $50 million plus to build a landfill, …. hey…. people will move the earth just to please.

  56. J. Payne

    @John. It used to be when development in Barbados was done, an accompanying consideration for drainage was taken into account. Rain water was not just passed on for other areas to deal with it. After Tomas passed, I took a walk and wound up talking with some older persons in Wildey area. According to them the Garfield Sobers Roundabout has several deep 200 foot wells to be able to handle all of the surface water of the area. The wells allow the rain coming off BET Hill and all around there to run off the surface quickly and down into these deep channels underground… According to these individuals one of the wells claimed a life so there is indeed an element of risk in doing them but if the highway was put in with no consideration of how that new road and it’s water might affect the surrounding area then things around there would be bad.

  57. John

    Here is an anology.

    Take a large bucket of water and throw it into an empty bathtub.

    The drain is the well, the bathtub the land.

    The rate at which the water in the tub subsides is proportional to the diameter of the drain.

    The diameter of the bucket is several times the diameter of the drain.

    Similarly, six or twelve foot diameter wells cannot deal with heavy rains if the catchment area directing the water towards them is great.

    Eventually the flood water will subside but until it does, the land is flooded.

    Wells don’t stop floods!!

  58. HM

    @ Harry

    West Coast high-end millionaire properties may not be of any interest to the average Bajan but they will certainly have a knock on effect on land prices overall.

    To my mind looking at the returning Nationals is to look in the wrong place. I am not one so have no particular axe to grind, but at the end of the day these people are Barbadians and have every right to buy homes in Barbados.

    They are not the ones that have pushed land prices so high. Other countries, with land prices at a more reasonable level also have returning Nationals. At the end of the day, any property they buy will more likely as not stay in the family. Barbadians that have lived abroad also contribute a lot to the economy. Many have struggled whilst living in the UK, USA & Canada and yet they still sent money to their relatives living in Barbados. Their pensions etc. also bring foreign currency into the country.

    There are a lot of foreigners in the same income bracket buying holiday homes all over Barbados. Land sold to foreigners is unlikely to ever return to Barbadian hands again, let alone be rented back to Barbadians.

    Also swathes of land is being sold off – not just in the west coast either – to property investors. Land is being turned into time-shares, closed off estates etc.

    Barbados is a small country but judging by what is going on anyone would think it has land galore like the USA. How many other countries are so free and easy with their land laws?

  59. i love justsayingbajan u keep it real , i was at the beach last sunday saw sum black kids some boys on the jetty behind the boatyard. i saw the onwer everyone knows him mr defritas taking up the black kids ball then takin they picture like they were criminals, it hurt my heart im like i wonder if it was white kids who went on the jetty if he would treat them the same way n take their pictures like criminals, i wondered if that was a black man who own the buisness n took the boys pics if they were white what would happen if he treated them like criminals, its funny double standards in barbados but as the old ppl say time is longer than twine n u can do as much as u like but not as long as u like.

  60. What a load from bajan people who seem to expect the world owes them everything. COW was a poor white bajan ofetn refered to as a red neck by the ignorant bajan who live along side them. He used to fish out of Bathsheba with my dad who owned his own boat until he retired Cow saved his money and took his parents advise to invest his money in land. This man has worked damm hard for what he has unlike some bajans who run when the rain start to fall. Oh and I am a black bajan and my dad still lives in a chattle house. Who made the better choice.

  61. 5

    I am a Barbadian by birth and my ancestors have lived here since the 17th century. Currently I live 7 months in Canada and 5 months here.
    In my opinion, foreigners who are not living here all year round should pay more for land by paying a land purchase premium and higher land taxes. They should also not be allowed to “sit” on land for longer two years without building on it.
    Local Barbadians should pay lower land taxes than foreigners.
    Mr. Williams could make lots of money and oodles of goodwill in this island if he would build affordable, attractive housing for local people. If he is so terrified of losing his land ownership, he could lease the land that the houses are built on. This is done all the time in Canada and some of the housing developments are very beautiful.
    There are some advantages to foreigners owning property here. Some of the obvious ones are – more foreign exchange flows into the island – taxes are paid all year round for services that are only used part of the year – these people tend to eat out more often and buy local arts and crafts more often – this stimulates the economy. Personally, I would never get a foreigner to decorate my house here – the whole idea of a Barbadian home is that it is truly Barbadian, inside and out.
    JB

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  63. Anonymous

    Firstly :NO man is self made !
    Barbadian men only get rich if they have workers! Minimum wage is so low that anyone with the ability to start to round up men to do their work can get rich in Barbados !
    Williams family and Cow’s mother still put a roof over his head and $100 a month is more than most made 60 or 70 years ago, years ago and more than i made my first job 30 years after him !

  64. Just saying Bajan too

    Just saying Bajan seems to have a fixation on race and “Other people’s money.”
    COW is entitled to continue his quest for riches,if that’s what makes him happy.Just saying Bajan is equally entitled to venting on daily blogs but he should realize that he is unlikely to change anything or have any effect whatsoever on COW’s life.If that’s how he wants to spend his time and energy,so be it.Hope he is giving his children a good education and instilling in them the virtues of hard work,ambition,entrepreneurship etc.If not his great grandchildren will be venting on blogs 100 years hence while COW’s will be on their yachts in the harbours of Monaco.
    Get a life and get a therapist,not in that order though!

  65. gonetowork

    I have always been a reader on here and never comment, but i must say, Dont hate on the man for getting somewhere in life, he managed to succeed at what he did and is now living happy. If anyone is upset with that then maybe you should get off your arse and go and make a living instead of complaining about other peoples success. Typical bajans, complain that things to hard, run from the hard work, and blame others for you dont get anywhere in life. I try to work hard to provide for my family and i am sure that is what COW did too, anyone who would not do that should not have born children. my 2 sense

  66. Buddy

    It is such an embarrassment to see some of the comments made here by fellow Bajans. Such blatant ignorance it is no wonder Bajans are the furthest back in the Caribbean. Cow Williams fished with my dad and while he saved his money and invested it, my dad was too fearful to do the same. Cow is a wealthy man and my dad is a poor man. Bajan people are too lazy both mentally to think of ways to elevate themselves and physically to go out and work. Shame on you, you bunch of critical, lazy good for nothing fools. I work my ass off here in the UK and upon return for a rest, always get the ” beggars and the lookers as if I owe you something. Where are you when I am working 18 hour days. Where were you when COW worked 18 hour days.

  67. Mitchie Bell

    He or any other citizen who has the money should be able and permitted,without any government restriction whatsoever, to buy any company,assets or land(real estate)he can afford to buy.The overriding principle here,as in any commercial transaction, is that there is a willing seller and a wiiling buyer,and there should be no restriction.Anything apart from that is pure jealousy and is quite a ridiculous suggestion,

  68. Buddy

    I agree with Mitchie Bell. And to all the jealous Bajan, I am sure COW is staying awake at night worrying about what all you bitter Bajans .NOT.