Barbados Nation News editorial: Freedom of religion in Egypt not worth mentioning

UPDATED: February 4, 2011 Bridgetown

We received the following message from Reyhana Patel, who is a member of the UWI Cave Hill Islamic Society (If she is the same M. Patel. I might be wrong but I thought I saw her at a public meeting)…

“How about posting this link up? This should contradict your Egypt article posted online. I’m willing to schedule a debate last week of March 2011 or first week April 2011?

Obviously, if i don’t hear from you I’m assuming you are unwilling to take part and learn about the Muslim community which proves the point of every Barbadian that the Barbados Free Fress is just out to attack the Muslim community.”

Washington Post – The Egyptian revolution: An interfaith movement

BFP’s original article…

“Christians murdered by Egyptian Muslims? Let’s not spoil the celebration by mentioning that, okay?”

by Nevermind Kurt

The Nation newspaper has joined the myopic mass media celebration of the revolts in Tunisia and Egypt as being staged by people crying for “greater freedom and democracy.”

Says a Nation editorial…

“The freedoms which we take for granted, such as the right to associate in trade unions and political parties, and to exercise our freedom of expression to criticize the head of government and members of cabinet, so long as we keep within the law, are sometimes taken for granted, but these recent events (in Egypt and Tunisia) ought to be a reminder to us that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.”

Freedom of Religion? Freedom from Religion? Not worth mentioning.

Here the dishonest silence of The Nation stands naked and exposed, for there is no mention of freedom of religion in the editorial. The Nation editor knows that there is no freedom of religion in Egypt, and that there will still be no freedom of religion after Mubarak is deposed. If anything, the murders and oppression of Christians and non-Muslims will increase as the Muslim Brotherhood assumes a formal role in government.

But let’s not spoil a good story, okay?

Millions of Christians have fled Islamic repression in Middle East and the exodus increases every year. A few days ago two Christian families were slaughtered in Egypt because they were Christians and for no other reason. Eleven men, women and children were butchered in their homes – but you didn’t read about it in The Nation or the most of the world’s major news media.

On New Years Eve, jihadists detonated a car bomb filled with 100 pounds of explosives and buckets of nails in front of Saints Coptic Orthodox Church in Alexandria, Egypt. As the body parts of 22 Christians decorated the front of the church and roadway, Muslim passersby stepped on the bloody remains and chanted the typical “Allah Akbar”. You can watch the videos if you desire here. (warning, graphic)

The Nation is too busy celebrating the calls for freedom in Egypt and proclaiming a new era is on the horizon to pay attention to the plight of Christians in Egypt.

A new era for sure, but if you are a Christian in Egypt things are about to get much, much worse due to Muslim oppression and intolerance of other religions.

As always you should read the Nation articles at their website here, but we’re printing their entire editorial here because the Nation has proven time and time again that they have no problem erasing history by changing or totally removing articles.

Securing our rights, freedoms

Recent events in the middle east and in particular in Tunisia and in Egypt are brought into our living rooms by the magic of television.

We should all grasp the important lessons which those upheavals have for us as a young democracy building on a long history of parliamentary institutions  and representative and responsible government.

In the latest example, millions of revolting Egyptians are out on the streets calling for the removal of the Mubarak regime and for greater freedom and democracy.

One of the most significant images is that of the poor and the wealthy alike demanding essentially the same thing – greater freedom and the ability to decide their future without the dead cold hand of the state dictating the great decisions in the life of the people.

Mubarak now has little choice since the army is reluctant to fire on the people who seem determined to fight for the removal of restrictions on the fundamental freedoms of Egyptians.

The freedoms which we take for granted, such as the right to associate in trade unions and political parties, and to exercise our freedom of expression to criticize the head of government and members of cabinet, so long as we keep within the law, are sometimes taken for granted, but these recent events ought to be a reminder to us that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Last week we read of a letter received by the prison authorities from the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions concerning the status of Jippy Doyle at Her Majesty’s Prisons at Dodds. The report suggested that acting on the contents of the letter, no date was set for Mr Doyle’s release, though he had served his sentence, but had appealed against conviction to the CCJ.

It is good that this matter has so far been resolved and that Mr Doyle has been released in accordance with the order of the Barbados Court of Appeal. As Sir Richard Cheltenham, Doyle’s lead lawyer pointed out, had Doyle not been released because of reliance upon the letter, it would have had serious implications for the liberty of the subject.

We applaud the stand taken by Sir Richard and his legal associates and wonder how a letter written from anyone, anywhere, could have the effect of disturbing the authority of the Barbados Court of Appeal at all, and especially in a matter involving the liberty of the subject.

Such a suggestion is so contrary to the fundamental principles of our system of governance and freedom that the public needs to be assured that this situation has not arisen in the past. No person or institution in this society has the power to countermand a decision of our courts.

It is these matters against which we must constantly be vigilant, and while this incident may have arisen in good faith and without any malevolent intent, it is still a matter requiring our concern, since the intervention of Sir Richard and the oxygen of publicity must have expedited the resolution of what could have been a clear infringement of Mr Doyle’s fundamental right to liberty as guaranteed to him under our Constitution.

Mr Doyle’s freedom has been secured but this matter must not rest there, for as our law has shown, prisoners too have rights, and this society is entitled to know that our fundamental rights are respected even when imprisoned for breaches of the law.

That is the strength of our system of rights that Egyptians are prepared to risk life and limb to secure.


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18 responses to “Barbados Nation News editorial: Freedom of religion in Egypt not worth mentioning

  1. The man wiv no name!!

    Why then did u invite them to our country! I would love to hing the politician who did dah!!

  2. surprise surprise

    nobody aint invite my grandfather to barbados you idiot. he came here on his own initiative to work. just like our fellow bajans go to other countries to work.

    guess what man wiv no name. i work in an influential position. and i am a muslim. scared?

  3. surprise surprise

    so the coptic priests and nuns who have joined in the protests are fools i take it?

    what about the thousands of muslims who gathered in solidarity to pray with the copts when the church was bombed?

  4. Stockholm Syndrome

    “so the coptic priests and nuns who have joined in the protests are fools i take it?”

    Yes, they are fools. Soon there won’t be any Christians left in Egypt and then there will be peace. Damned Christians and Jews make all the trouble in the Middle East according to the Muslim Brotherhood!

  5. Hi BFP:

    Did Ms Patel state the topic of the debate? I would be happy to discuss Islam, Islamic dacilitated terrorism, any related topic with her.


  6. BFP

    Hi Grenville,

    It just now occurred to me that we didn’t do an article on your new building code course. Had intended to and it slipped down and disappeared. Sorry ’bout that. Will do it up in the next few days. Anything new happening? How many people signed up? Also saw that murder charges were laid re that hotel gas line blast in Mexico, and that was a building code issue. People die all the time because of no standards so we hope you keep pounding your building code drum because it’s needed.

    Miss Patel didn’t say anything more than we posted, but she’s more than welcome to post more on her own or write an article and we’ll publish it for her as a free standing article.


  7. Here’s an intriguing other point – met a Canadian Jew recently and she wants Mubarak to REMAIN in Cairo as El-Baradei is allegedly connected to Hamas? I went to Wikipedia and saw nothing in his profile indicating, in fact, the dude was nominated for a Peace prize in 2005 – can anyone clarify?

  8. See "Arafat"

    Ian, Arafat won the “peace” prize at the same time he was sending his troops to slit Jewish throats. The Nobel Prize means little if anything in this era.

  9. The man wiv no name!!

    ‘surprise, surprise’, only just noticed this: u asked if i was scared? the answer’s yes cos, left to me, i wunt allow any uh wunna widdin a thousand miles uh Bim, let alone to occupy an influential position! i’ve a lot of exp. of ur people n there mere thought of them makes me sick! but, i dunno what wrong wid Bajans. we insist on learning d hard way. as our parents used to say, ‘if u don’t hear u will feel’!! i guess Bajans r still too dim n must feel!!

  10. The man wiv no name!!

    how many blacks r invited to live in Muslim countries, much less Afro Caribbeans, n, how do they treat the blacks who live in the African countries they’ve succeeded in forcing themselves into. Wake up people!!

  11. The man wiv no name!!

    looka, even in Britain duh waking up finally! But it’ll tek d Bajees annuda 100 yrs!!

  12. Hi BPF:

    I just completed the rigorous training of 23 supervisors in Haiti during the past week, and am returning to Barbados today. The photos of the participants, and details of the work that they have been trained to do, will be on Walbrent’s web site hopefully tomorrow, but by Monday the latest. I am overjoyed, almost to the point of tears, to report that following the announcement that their training was completed, all of them were offered employment. Thank you for your interest. But back to the topic under discussion.

    It may be useful to compare the situation with Egypt to Israel’s democratic risks. If Egypt allows free elections, then they risk electing the Muslim Brotherhood, who has already stated their intention to terminate the peace agreement with Israel. It is also likely that they will be a democracy in name only – like Iran.

    If Israel allows the Palestinian refugees from Jordan into Israel, then the Muslims will be the majority population, and their leaders have already stated their intention to turn Israel into an Islamic state. Israel will then be democratic in name only.

    This thing called democracy is more than elections, but rather a way of governing between elections. It appears (based on media coverage) that the vast majority of effort to spread democracy around the world is concentrated on the national elections, and very little meaningful effort is directed to democratic governing principles between elections. The recent (50 years) historical record shows that this approach has created a fertile environment for cultivating despots.



  13. 196

    Fortunately, it would seem that 99.876% of muslims on this side of the Atlantic
    are sufficiently happy with the general lifestyle in the Americas
    that they harbour little if any of the fundamentalist crapola we witness ‘Over There’ in Ye Olde Worlde.
    Let’s try to keep it that way.
    Those who live in primitive backward countries behave in like manner.

    On another point: civilized muslims everywhere owe it to their own religion and perception thereof, to root out and expose the wacko fundamentalist in their midst that MAKES THEM look bad, that makes islam appear wacko!

    Islamic fundamentalism is at least as much a muslim problem
    as it is a Western Civilization problem.

  14. The man wiv no name!!

    That’s right ‘Anonymous’. They’re very civilised indeed, which is why they take all the jobs and give any others to their own people, which is why I ‘welcome’ them to your country, not mine.

  15. Reyhana

    @ me via http: and we can arrange something for March..also think bfp needs to read their emails carefully…I am a previous member of the UWI Islamic society and you couldn’t have seen me at the public meeting because I clearly stated I haven’t been in Barbados for the last three and half years

  16. Rohan Frederick

    BFP it’s about time this come off. There are so much thing happening in Barbados that need to be highlighted.

  17. BFP

    Hi Rohan,

    Nothing “comes off”, it just moves its way to the bottom of the page and then onto the the next page etc. You can continue going backwards in time through all of our 4000+ articles.

  18. lexicon

    I lack enough scope on the issue to really give an objective view, but there is something that I want ot address that is of some concern to me; there seem to be this phenonema of bashing the Muslim community since September 11, 2001. So therefore, I think that it is safe to say that there’re good Muslims and good Chrisitians, bad Muslims and bad Christians. That is only logical where the is a good there must be a corresponding evil.