CHAOS! BLP website six weeks later: “Mia Amor Mottley, Political Leader of BLP”

Opposition Leader Owen Arthur still not mentioned on Barbados Labour Party website!

Eight days after Barbados Free Press broke the news that the BLP website still proclaims deposed leader Mia Mottley as “Political Leader of BLP”, everything remains the same…

The “real” leader of the Opposition, former Prime Minister Owen Arthur, is not mentioned on the Barbados Labour Party’s official website – and deposed leader Mia Mottley still welcomes visitors as “Political Leader of BLP”.

This is almost six weeks after Owen Arthur led a coup that deposed then-Opposition Leader Mia Mottley and over a week after Barbados Free Press exposed the battle over the BLP’s website.

On November 17, 2010, Barbados Free Press received an anonymous email indicating that the people in charge of the BLP website are refusing to give up the password to Owen Arthur’s team.

It looks like the stand-off continues. How embarrassing! Yet… how indicative of the reality of turmoil within the Barbados Labour Party.

Hey… BLP… Who’s yo daddy?

Or is it “Who’s yo’ mommy?”

When you sort out who is the leader of the BLP, please let Barbados know!

(Hey… BLP… Sucks to be you!)

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55 responses to “CHAOS! BLP website six weeks later: “Mia Amor Mottley, Political Leader of BLP”

  1. BAFBFP

    Owing Arthur looks the part of just another tired old man. I will vote for a vibrant bisexual any day before I vote for a tired old man … wah you say …?

  2. Well one could say she may have more balls than him ?

  3. Scrupie

    Look under the lime tree and see that all de young limes falling off de tree and leaving de ripe ones still on the branches, even in hurricane season.
    A masterful ,reasoned and well balanced presentation by Mr Arthur. Thank God that he is still here among us to offer alternatives and remedies to help rescue Barbados economic position. Ye who has ears to hear, hearken if ye want to.

  4. My Name Is Not Sylvan...

    BFP this article about the website cannot change the blows that Owen put in the budget this afternoon. It cannot change the fact that this DLP government has lost sight of the vision of Errol Barrow. It cannot change the fact that Owen was able to read from the DLP manifesto and past budget proposals and higlight a long list of promises and policies that have never been implemented.

    This government has lost its way, the BLP under either Mia or Owen would be far better than this pathetic excuse for a government that we currently have.

  5. Cuddear

    The BLP is not in power and their website really should not matter to you. What should matter to you and the DLP supporters is getting the country back on the right path, instead of detracting about a silly website.
    Be wise enough and take some of Owen’s advice in the best interest of Barbados rather than waste time trying to blindside your readers about a website.
    Come on!

  6. Tell me Why

    BFP. This is a non-issue. Focus on current issues and stop the side tracking.

  7. David G. Brooks

    Scrupie & My Name Is Not Sylvan…

    Well said.

    The part about the web site, well obviously the webmaster or person(s) who have access are being childish or it is considered NOT that important right now.

  8. David G. Brooks

    Cuddear & Tell me Why …

    Again, well said … BFP have you got the point yet?

  9. David G. Brooks

    Suggestion:

    As I know you would choke at the fact the Owen has the country’s confidence, the stay with the DLP and their broken promises, like Transparency Legislation, but I suppose now that David Thompson has passed on then all bets are off … you should be just as worried as the rest of the country.

  10. Who is in charge of the BLP?

    The internet is a major method of communicating an organisation’s message. It is vital that the BLP repossess its website and blog because the message being communicated is that the party is in disarray and did not have the foresight to make sure the assets of the party belong to the party and stay in the party’s control.

    If we were talking about a BLP-owned radio station that was still broadcasting Mottley as leader I wonder if some of the commenters here would be as smug. They are smug because they don’t realize the power of the internet and the damage that is being done. They have also forgotten that the internet reaches a worldwide audience as well as the local audience.

    The local newspapers know it’s happening but they don’t want to indicate that the internet is important so they are ignoring what should be a front page story.

    This public fight over the BLP website is only a sign. Are there other things happening too that are not as visible? Are there fights over bank accounts or computers and other hard assets?

    It is six or seven weeks since Owen Arthur was made leader and the official website of the Barbados Labour Party still proclaims Mia Mottley as leader.

    If that isn’t an important sign of chaos within the party, I don’t know what is.

  11. Cuddear

    “If that isn’t an important sign of chaos within the party, I don’t know what is.”
    This country under the DLP has a fiscal crisis, cost of living is out of control, everyone including Freundel Stuart is scrambling for the safe seat in St. John, constituency councils that are duplicating government services and serving as political eavesdrops are wasting government funds, capital projects have come to a complete halt, the new Minister of Finance did not even pass CXC maths, the business sector has lost ALL confidence in the government’s ability to manage a 2 billion dollar economy.
    NOW IS THIS ISN’T AN IMPORTANT SIGN OF CHAOS IN THE GOVERNMENT, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS!

  12. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    @Who Is In Charge Of The BLP

    You want people to look at the BLP website other than at the all but formally repudiated manifesto of 2008.

    You want people to look at the BLP website so they don’t look at all of the policies introduced in 3 budgets that have not been implemented.

    You want people to look at the BLP website so they don’t ask why is a constituency council using taxpayer dollars to put up memorials to road fatalities when it is being done already by an insurance company.

    You want people to look at the BLP website because your government is telling Bajans to pay more in taxes but not cutting any expenditure. All this while Constituency Councils are paying people to walk through their constituency.

    You talk about chaos in the BLP, but don’t want to talk about a government that has lost its way, and does not know after three years in office that people expect you to do more than just talk.

  13. bajan kidd

    Stupse, why ya’ll idiots don’t let that old man rest he bones nuh. LOL I can see that if Owen regain power (however unlikely) He would go the same route as Compton in St. Lucia. You mean to tell me that he is so eager for power that he would dismiss one of his own in such an indecent way. And this is the man some people want back in power. To do what, finish sell off the rest of the land. We in Barbados (and the Caribbean as a whole) need to get away from this ‘charismatic’ leader bullshit, any body who feels that Owen is the savior of this country/economy needs to come again. What you critics should do is ask about the ‘millions’ of taxpayers dollars wasted in cost overruns, missing houses, and lots. Consultants paid nuff nuff money for doing little or nothing. Huge contracts being given out with no tender process. I could go on and on. A lot of people seem to forget that the majority of debt that we are now saddled with came about as a result of the former administration and in times of plenty, and good economic growth. Some people need to wake up and wipe the cold out of their eyes.

  14. Cuddear

    The DLP should call an election now and let the people speak.

  15. John

    Cuddear
    November 24, 2010 at 11:17 am

    NOW IS THIS ISN’T AN IMPORTANT SIGN OF CHAOS IN THE GOVERNMENT, I DON’T KNOW WHAT IS!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Our problems are I agree related to government and over the years both parties have had their shot at running it.

    At the end of each term we hear how the new one has to lay foundations and repair the damage done so even the parties themselves acknowledge neither is any good.

    This is a fact obvious to anyone not beholden to either party.

    Neither one has done a good job.

    Thirty people, (it used to be 28) sitting down in a room and talking will not help the other 269,970 of us.

    I admit they can make our lives hell and often do … but hell is hell, there isn’t anything relative about that place.

    The reality of the situation is that both sets need us to help them and yet somehow the two have worked together and contrived to convince some of us it is the other way.

    It really is very sad how gullible we have become.

    I stopped listening to either set a long time ago.

  16. Cuddear

    “Stupse, why ya’ll idiots don’t let that old man rest he bones nuh. LOL I can see that if Owen regain power (however unlikely) He would go the same route as Compton in St. Lucia.”
    DO YOU MEAN THE SAME ROUTE OF DAVID THOMPSON? ALL OF US WILL DIE, INCLUDING YOU!

    ” You mean to tell me that he is so eager for power that he would dismiss one of his own in such an indecent way. And this is the man some people want back in power. ”
    DID HE DO ANYTHING SO ALARMINGLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT DAVID THOMPSON DID TO CLYDE MASCOLL?

    To do what, finish sell off the rest of the land.
    “80 % OF BARBADIAN OWN THEIR OWN HOMES. MORTGAGES RAISED FROM 39 MILLION IN 1994 WHEN THE BLP TOOK OFFICE TO OVER 1 BILLION DOLLARS WHEN IT LEFT IN 2008. WHO OWNS THE MAJORITY OF THE LAND IN BARBADOS?

    We in Barbados (and the Caribbean as a whole) need to get away from this ‘charismatic’ leader bullshit, any body who feels that Owen is the savior of this country/economy needs to come again.

    AGREED WITH YOU 100%. THAT IS WHY MAXINE MCCLEAN SHOULD NOT HAVE PARADED A CORPSE UP AND DOWN BARBADOS TO GAIN PEOPLE’S SYMPATHY. IT WAS ALL POLITICAL PROPAGANDA. MAY THE LATE PM REST IN PEACE!

    What you critics should do is ask about the ‘millions’ of taxpayers dollars wasted in cost overruns, missing houses, and lots. Consultants paid nuff nuff money for doing little or nothing. Huge contracts being given out with no tender process. I could go on and on.
    I AGREE WITH YOU. PROVE ALL THIS AND PUT THE THIEVES IN JAIL. UNTIL SUCH TIME, THIS IS POLITICAL PROPAGANDA. YOU MAY ALSO WISH TO EXPLAIN, WHILE YOU’RE AT IT, THE CONSULTANCY FEES THAT DAVID THOMPSON PAID TO HARTLEY HENRY, FOR DOING WHAT…NOBODY KNOWS…
    HOWEVER, HE WAS SMART ENOUGH TO CALL IT QUITS BEFORE FREUNDEL STUART FIRED HIM. MAY HE TOO REST IN PEACE AND SAVE US ALL.

    A lot of people seem to forget that the majority of debt that we are now saddled with came about as a result of the former administration and in times of plenty, and good economic growth.
    THERE’S GOOD DEBT AND THERE’S BAD DEBT. THE DLP IS BORROWING TO PAY SALARIES AND RUN CONSTITUENCY COUNCILS.
    ARE YOU NOT BENEFITING FROM THE FATTED CALF POLICY DEAR?

    Some people need to wake up and wipe the cold out of their eyes.
    I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU HERE. THE DLP ASKED FOR A CHANCE, THE ELECTORATE GAVE IT TO THEM AND THEY’VE PROVEN THEMSELVES. NOW IT’S TIME TO CALL AN ELECTION AND LET US SPEAK AGAIN.

  17. John

    Cuddear
    November 24, 2010 at 12:00 pm
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    What you critics should do is ask about the ‘millions’ of taxpayers dollars wasted in cost overruns, missing houses, and lots. Consultants paid nuff nuff money for doing little or nothing. Huge contracts being given out with no tender process. I could go on and on.
    I AGREE WITH YOU. PROVE ALL THIS AND PUT THE THIEVES IN JAIL. UNTIL SUCH TIME, THIS IS POLITICAL PROPAGANDA.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    $50 million plus into Greenland despite technical advice to the contrary.

    Result : not a pound of garbage delivered.

    Who has eyes to see let them see.

    Guess we critics are blessed with the sense of sight.

    Open your eyes and maybe you will see too.

  18. John

    … that $50 million could have gone a long way today!!!

  19. Cuddear

    Hi John

    What about the fiasco of the St. Joseph hospital, the unfinished Sherbourne Conference Center (oop, the SIR Lloyd Sandiford Centre or whatever the hell it’s now called).
    Cost overruns for the BCC project, the list can go on and on and on.
    The point is that under the BLP administration from 1994-2008, this country experienced the longest period of sustained economic growth in its history as both a colony and an independent nation.
    FACT, FACT, FACT!
    The facts speaks for themselves and this was under the stewardship of Owen Seymour Arthur. FACT, FACT, FACT!
    Disprove it.

  20. John

    Cuddear
    November 24, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    Hi John

    What about the fiasco of the St. Joseph hospital, the unfinished Sherbourne Conference Center (oop, the SIR Lloyd Sandiford Centre or whatever the hell it’s now called).
    Cost overruns for the BCC project, the list can go on and on and on.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We agree … neither one is any good!!

  21. Cuddear

    Hi John

    What about the fiasco of the St. Joseph hospital, the unfinished Sherbourne Conference Center (oop, the SIR Lloyd Sandiford Centre or whatever the hell it’s now called).
    Cost overruns for the BCC project, the list can go on and on and on.
    The point is that under the BLP administration from 1994-2008, this country experienced the longest period of sustained economic growth in its history as both a colony and an independent nation.
    FACT, FACT, FACT!
    The facts speak for themselves and this was under the stewardship of Owen Seymour Arthur. FACT, FACT, FACT!
    Disprove it.

  22. Cuddear

    “We agree … neither one is any good!!”
    Then maybe an alternative party should emerge…
    What about the NDP under Richie Hayne or the PEP under Commissiong?
    Maybe we should hand back the reins to the Anglican or Catholic Church.

    The voice of the people is the voice of God.

  23. John

    Cuddear
    November 24, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    The voice of the people is the voice of God
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Check Wikipedia!!!

    Another early reference to the expression is in a letter from Alcuin to Charlemagne in 798, although it is believed to have been in earlier use.[3] The full quotation from Alcuin reads:

    Nec audiendi qui solent dicere, Vox populi, vox Dei, quum tumultuositas vulgi semper insaniae proxima sit.[4]

    English translation:

    And those people should not be listened to who keep saying the voice of the people is the voice of God, since the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness.[5]

  24. bajan kidd

    @ cuddear
    Wait a minute, weren’t we / aren’t we, in a global recession, the biggest in history(according to the technocrats and such). Countries with economies greater than ours have collapsed. When Owen had the economy growing was it a recession then? Stupse.

    You said : the voice of the people is the voice of God, what rubbish, wonder which bible you get that from.

    God ordains leaders whether in the church or in the country and if GOD wants owen to lead this country again nothing can stop HIS (GODS)will.

    For the record what Thompson did to Mascoll, can never be compared to Owen and Mia, Owen doesn’t have the class and decency of such a man as the late Prime Minister David J.H Thompson. If Mascoll did keep quit where do you think he would be right now.

    And of course everyone has to die, not being insensitive. If Owen wants the stresses of running a country in this time of his life good fuh he, we need to stop hanging on to the pants hem of leaders and make way for new ones to grow. Don’t support Mia, but sorry for her situation.

  25. John

    Cuddear
    November 24, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Hi John

    The point is that under the BLP administration from 1994-2008, this country experienced the longest period of sustained economic growth in its history as both a colony and an independent nation.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Go to the Economic and Social report of 2005 and look at appendix 28 about the extraction of water.

    It stagnated in 1995/96 … as predicted in 1978.

    I say an economy cannot grow without that growing!!!

    I believe that one economic indicator is sometimes trumped by another not so obvious one, in this case water!!

  26. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    Bajan Kidd,

    Let’s not kid ourselves here. Because there is a recession this DLP government and it’s apologists seem to think that it is a good reason to excusing themselves from having any responsibility for anything to do with the economy.

    In response to your non point, I would ask you to study how Owen Arthur managed the post 2001 recession. He never said, “Well there’s a recession, I can’t do anything” he held public consultations with the Social Partners. Out of the consultations an agenda for action was developed. Then that agenda was IMPLEMENTED.

    Unlike Mr. Arthur, this Government cannot even implement it’s own policies far less it’s promises. Peter Boos is in the paper publicly lamenting how this Government is lacking when it comes to implementation.

    This pathetic excuse for a Government, still has not understood that the people of Barbados entrusted them with responsibility for their lives. That responsibility is not excused because there is a recession, or because one man got sick or because things didn’t go as planned.

    If they understood that they would not take three years to begin to have a “white paper” on the most important sector of the economy. (that is 3 years to talk about developing a plan)

    Nor would they spend taxpayer dollars on paying people to walk around constituencies.

    Nor would they waffle on three years into their administration trying to blame everyone else for what goes wrong. “The BLP did this”, “The recession did that”, “The UK did this”

    What did the DLP do?

  27. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    John,

    does your economic data tell you who removed the BWA’s capital works fund to the consolidated fund?

    From that one decision many of today’s water problems flow…….

  28. John

    Where the stagnation in water supply in 1995/96 is concerned, it doesn’t matter who removed the Capital works fund to the consolidated fund.

    That fund would probably have been directed at water distribution.

    What matters is that the water resources available to be tapped are limited and that limit was reached in 1995/96 as predicted in the Water Resources study of 1978.

    To the extent that the capital works fund included the capital required to develop desalination and so access another water resource, the sea, then it does matter but my bet is that the fund did not inculde that capital as at the time the costs of desalination would have been way way beyond its comprehension.

    Google Singapore water and you will see what I mean about the relation of water to the economy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_resources_of_Singapore

  29. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    John,

    #1 You evade my question, why are you afraid to answer it?

    #2 You statistics are undoubtedly the reason why the BLP very proactively built a desalination plant.

    Your constraint to development was managed, as a government is supposed to do. No doubt our current excuse for a government would have thrown it’s hands in the air and said “we run out of water what you expect us to do?”

  30. John

    The Barbados economy is like a man on a bicycle on a high wire.

    The wire represents water availability.

    If it is reasonably steady, the ends of the balancing pole will vary slightly about a mean.

    If some lunatic twangs the wire the ends of the balancing pole will vary considerably as the man on the bicycle fights to maintain his balance.

    If we use those pole ends to measure the performance of the economy, sometimes they will be really high and other times really low.

    We need to measure at the bicycle and lock up any lunatic (B or D) who goes and twangs the wire.

    One day the man and his bicycle will fall off the wire and it won’t matter where the economy is measured.

  31. John

    My Name Is Not Sylvan
    November 24, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    John,

    #1 You evade my question, why are you afraid to answer it?

    #2 You statistics are undoubtedly the reason why the BLP very proactively built a desalination plant.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    #1. I have answered your question … it doesn’t matter!!

    #2. The desalination plant of which you speak is actually not a desalination plant!!!

    It processes brackish water not sea water.

    As a rough estimate, for every 7 million gallon it could produce, it requires 6 million gallons of fresh water!!

    …. and the BLP did not build it.

    It “facilitated” its construction.

    When you understand that the plant is not a desalination plant you will understand what facilitation means!!

  32. The fissure in the BLP persists with high-handed tactics http://bit.ly/gvSohw

  33. Cuddear

    Maybe John and Bajan Kidd should run for public office let’s see what the voice of the people will say to that.

  34. John

    Maybe Cuddear can agitate within the BLP for more transparency and accountabilty from his leader(s)!!

  35. Cuddear

    There are systems in place. It’s called the vote…

  36. John

    …. and actually listen to the voice of the people!!!

  37. John

    Systems seem to have broken down.

  38. Cuddear

    “Systems seem to have broken down.”

    I couldn’t agree with you more. Tell Freundel to call the elections and let us vote or even choose not to vote.
    Do you see how simple it is? No need for the stress.
    This is a democracy.

  39. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    John,

    Unlike you I can deal in facts not vague impressions or sly innuendos

    To be clear….
    Brackish Water exists on the margins of the aquifer where fresh ground water meets salty sea water. This water is not potable because of the salt content. The DESALINATION plant removes the salt from this water which because it is not as salty as seawater is easier and cheaper to convert to potable water. You do understand that to remove salt from water is called a process of desalination, hence whatever you might say it is a desalination plant.

    Operating Leases by way of BOLT arrangements are nothing sinister or evil as the DLP has tried to imply. They are rapidly discovering that the smear tactics that they used in opposition somehow don’t work when you are in government. Because in Government people hold you to facts and you actually have to do something other than just talk. The evidence of the past three years shows that they don’t seem to have internalised this lesson yet.

    If you want I can go and get a dictionary definition of what “desalination” means. Perhaps it might help you in your confusion.

  40. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    And by the way question 1 does matter. Your reluctance to address it is proof of that.

  41. Liberal

    Try logging on to the Democratic Labour Party website.This is really a non-issue How about focusung on the plight of poor barbadians who now have to struggle like hell to maintain their standard of living once again under a DLP administration.And how about the public servants through the back door salary cuts-no more tax free travel allowances.same ole same ole DLP.

  42. John

    My Name Is Not Sylvan
    November 24, 2010 at 5:58 pm
    John,

    To be clear….
    Brackish Water exists on the margins of the aquifer where fresh ground water meets salty sea water. This water is not potable because of the salt content. The DESALINATION plant removes the salt from this water which because it is not as salty as seawater is easier and cheaper to convert to potable water.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1.Cheaper is the operative word. Profit is the one you really need to understand but you are getting there by degrees.

    2.The fresh water from which the salt is removed is supplied from the same catchment that supplies Belle and Codrington and Newmarket.

    3. I recall at the time that the spec for what Bajans call the “desal” plant for concentration of Total Dissolved Solids in the fresh water was 5000ppm vs sea water at 35000ppm. That’s why what happens in Brighton is not desalination and why it is so much cheaper than desalination.

    “Brackish Water exists on the margins of the aquifer where fresh ground water meets salty sea water.” I am not clear on exactly what you mean but, it is a fact that salty sea water can be found as far inland as Constant in what is known as the St. George Valley.

    That means the Belle, Newmarket and Codrington all supply brackish water to householders!!!

    However, their total dissolved solids are all below 500ppm, which is the acceptable WHO level (atleast when I last looked a while ago) at which water is considered potable. I am relying here on memory and trying to avoid digging out the data!!

    The only BWA pumping stations in Barbados that don’t supply brackish water are Bowmanston and Sweet Vale!! (Again, relying on memory but pretty sure that is all). The springs at Codrington and Newcastle also do not supply brackish water.

    All others do!!

    John

  43. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    Jesus wept!

    If I ever met someone who added two and two and got five it was you John…..

    “I am not clear on exactly what you mean but, it is a fact that salty sea water can be found as far inland as Constant in what is known as the St. George Valley.That means the Belle, Newmarket and Codrington all supply brackish water to householders!!! ”

    Actually it doesn’t mean that.

    It means that if you draw out enough fresh water you will eventually get to brackish water.

    On the point of it “not being a desalination plant”….

    I quote from the Desalination Plant’s website:

    “The brackish water reverse osmosis (BWRO) desalination plant in Barbados was installed and commissioned in February 2000, it has a production capacity of 30,000 m3/day (7.9 MGD)”
    “The treated product water meets the World Health Organisation (WHO) water quality standards and has operated trouble free since commissioning. After over ten years of operation the original membranes are still a achieving water quality which meets the water authority’s product water specification requirement of < 250 mg/l TDS."

    So we can surmise that….

    99.999999999999999999999999999% of the world would consider it to be a desalination plant, but you don't.

    No, you John have injected into the discussion a red herring about it "not being a desalination plant" to imply some vague nebulous conspiracy. Like many of the DLP operatives on these blogs, when the facts don't support your argument you flee to innuendo, and "if you only knew what I knew" and things unsaid but implied. You draw red herrings across the trail to draw attention away from your government's ineptitude and into discussions about what is and is not a desalination plant.

    Anything but the facts.

    I deal in fact.

    This Government has lost the vision of the Right Excellent Errol Barrow and hasn't got the first clue how to run this country.

  44. John

    Check the public library and see if you can get the 1978 Water Resources Study.

    Nicky Sealy sent me there in 1987 and I suggest you go too.

    It is in 6 volumes.

    It is volume 5 you want so you can find out about salinity.

    Check figure 5.3.4 Cross Sectional Profile of Coral Formation between Charles Rowe Bridge and New Orleans.

    It will give you the salinity levels of the sheet water under Belle Pumping Station.

    You are confusing pure, fresh and potable water because it is clear you do not understand any of these terms you are using.

    Belle does not produce fresh or pure water, never has, never will!!!!!

    It produces potable water with TDS less than the limit required to meet WHO requirements for potable water.

    The water has a low salinity level which makes it brackish.

    The same goes for all the West Coast Wells, in fact any well in the sheet water area.

    You also do not understand the term brackish.

    As you can see from the wikipedia definition, brackish is an imprecise term.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brackish_water

    Love your leap of faith, but even your statistics are flawed.

    Less than 30% of the world has access to the internet.

    Google World Internet Access Statistics.

    I won’t tell you what they say about statistics.

  45. John

    PS

    You can also try the 1947 Senn Report, also available at the Public Library.

  46. My Name Is Not Sylvan

    John,
    I’m not going to follow your red herring about brackish water, any further.

    First it was about statistics that showed extraction of water had flat lined in 95/96.

    When that argument didn’t deflect attention away from the flailing DLP it became about “whether or not it is or is not a desal plant”

    Now you want to get into a debate about whether water is brackish or not.

    I’m not biting.

    I know how you DLP people love to use red herrings to shift the argument.

    Doesn’t make your government capable though.

    They still are an inept bumbling excuse for an administration.

  47. John

    My Name Is Not Sylvan
    November 24, 2010 at 11:40 pm

    A library is a treasure trove of facts and for a person who deals in facts I strongly recommend the visit.

    You lack grounding in science but you can learn alot by reading the reports.

    They are produced by a civil engineering firm but are written in plain english.

    Each volume has an executive summary and is directed at one aspect of the public water supply in Barbados.

    At first I was dreading having to read them until I started.

    They are a fascinating record of understanding which should be compulsory reading to any civil servant, Member of Parliament.

    Anyone who wants to claim they deal in facts where water is concerned should also make the effort.

    Nicky Sealy did me a great favour in directing me to them, I am trying to pass on the favour.

  48. John

    Sylvan

    If you really really really want to see how water figures into a real economy, planned and run to that plan, I repeat again, google Singapore Water.

    We are yet to have people in charge of our government who come close to matching the results Singapore gets.

    I am yet to hear any politician, B or D, cogently speak to the water issue we face.

    There is no real plan so the old adage applies to both parties … if you fail to plan, you are planning to fail.

    Some sources attribute it to Benjamin Franklin.

  49. John

    My Name Is Not Sylvan
    November 24, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    This Government has lost the vision of the Right Excellent Errol Barrow and hasn’t got the first clue how to run this country.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    There has never been any long term economic plan or vision by any leader since independence in 1966.

    No Government has ever had a clue, B or D.

    The Right Excellent Errol Walton Barrow did realise there was something about Singapore we could aspire to but never figured out what made that economy tick.

    I spent a day there in 1983.

    An amazing place even then.

    Sorry about not addresing you properly in the above comment but just had an idea and all I could remeber was Sylvan … too lazy to copy and paste this time of night.

    Anyway, I rectified it here.

  50. Adrian Loveridge

    When is a letter NOT a letter?
    Did Dr. William Duguid apologise to the speaker, the members of Parliament, his constituents and the people of Barbados last yesterday?

  51. squidy

    Mr. Loveridge, what are you talking about? What did I miss with Duguid? What happened with a letter?

  52. Hello ADRIAN,

    Dr. Duguid is part of that odious “segment” that finds itself within the bosom of the BLP .

    The sooner my re-invigorated leader Owen Arthur purge the party of such elements , the better it would be for all.

  53. Scrupie

    Nobody is listening or even commenting on A L ove articles. not even being taken seriously by his fellow DLP friends. What a pity! only you hearing your own voice fellow. Need Help? Seek a consultant.

  54. 124

    @Adrian Loveridge
    November 25, 2010 at 9:17 am
    “When is a letter NOT a letter?
    Did Dr. William Duguid apologise to the speaker, the members of Parliament, his constituents and the people of Barbados last yesterday?”

    Mr. Loveridge, did you not notice that charade which took place in the house Wednesday?

    First, the “Honourable Speaker” discriminated by clearly picking on Payne. Clearly a ploy to knock THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BLP off-guard with a silly accusation. I have seen so many of the parliamentarians walk in the House and sat WITHOUT acknowledging the chair, and the speaker said NOTHING, but just out of the blue decided to jump on Payne Wednesday.

    That looked pretty suspicious. He then hurriedly excused himself as soon as Duguid got into mthe stride of his speech. The speaker said he had some business to take care of, but did not return for quite a while. What a long toilet break!

    It seems the ploy here was to loose that “green-verb bulldog” Best on poor Duguid. Best treats the parliamentarians like he is some kind of school master, and he sure did his arranged job in taking care of poor Duguid…… William NEVER got a chance to exp[lain himself or wind up properly. So unfair , this man BEST.

    This is the worst Speaker/Deputy Speaker combination in the history of parliament! Any blind man could see a pre-organised strategy to disrupt the opposition.

  55. BLP site is up & totally changed now, it looks rather primitive compared to before – most segments when clicked on simply say “COMING SOON” & the UK is now spelled as “Britian” in their Calendar

    Their blog is now updated to Dec 2nd, re: impending St John by-election