The Muslim vision of the future for all Barbadian women

We were happy to see the girls and women of the Alfalah Muslim School out on the weekend helping to clean up Long Beach.

Their veils, dress and close supervision are not the norm in Barbados – but will be the norm for all Barbadian women if the Muslim vision for the future of Barbados becomes reality.

Photo credit – The Nation: All hands on deck!

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121 responses to “The Muslim vision of the future for all Barbadian women

  1. TWWIFOS

    Right out of the Glen Beck school of journalism – scare & divide.

    It’s clear that the people who your trying to vilify were trying to make Barbados a better place to live in today – while this absurd post was meant to do just the opposite.

  2. Independent observer

    How dare the free press print an article that is 100% factual.

    These women are not portrayed as “villains” by the free press. The free press states the truth that this is how Muslims see women’s fashion if Sharia law is normal in Barbados.

    Muslim women are not villains. They are victims and oppressed.

  3. TWWIFOS

    You miss the point. The women are most definitely not the villains. The villains are whoever decided this post would be good for Barbados. It serves no purpose except to try and scare and divide people. Everyone knows that Sharia law will never come to Barbados – it will take too much paperwork! LOL :-}

  4. Ordinary Person

    For these women, Sharia law is already here in Barbados and their clothing shows it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-Nisa,_34

  5. TWWIFOS

    That may be true, but that’s no excuse for trying to scare Bajans into thinking that “it might happen to them one day” – even though we all know the chances of that happening are zero. This is not how responsible journalists are supposed to act. This blog is turning into a cheap imitation of Fox news.

  6. fair comment

    The tie-heads march down the streets in Christ Church every Easter to the water with their beautiful outfits and faces fully shown, full of joy.

    Turkey has Muslim women in traditional garb but most are in colorful outfits with the face showing.

    China bound women’s feet 100 years ago to keep them in their place. Should this be allowed now?

    The photo speaks for itself ! Women are chattels and Sharia Law upholds this tenet.

  7. who me?

    The photo may speak for itself but somehow I don’t think it says there is a “Muslim vision” for all of Barbados.

    Only BFP could take an article about a group of citizens helping in an environmental clean up and use it as a base for a bigoted, twisted, unfactual, scare mongering story.

    Glenn would be so proud of you BFP.

  8. passin thru

    who me? sounds a little naive. Yes, there is a Muslim vision for Barbados and the rest of the world. It’s called the “Reestablishment of the Caliphate worldwide” and it is the basis for the global jihad currently taking place. Those who wish to see Islam rule the world are Islamists.

    Not all Islamists, in fact not many, use terror to advance their vision of combined religion and political systems. Rather, most Islamist progress is of the nature of a “stealth jihad” where the host society is made to gradually adapt to Muslim values and standards.

    A good example of this adaptation is in Britain and Canada where Muslims are allowed to practice polygamy and multiple wives can each receive welfare even when co-habitating with the sole husband. Polygamy is illegal in Canada and Britain except for Muslims in which case it is de facto legal.

    Recent history especially in Europe shows that Stealth Jihad proceeds step by step until certain population demographics are reached. At that time there is pressure, sometimes backed by increasing violence, for non-Muslims to conform to Muslim standards such as modest dress and head coverings for females past puberty.

    For this reason today in certain urban sections of Paris and many other communities in France, non-Muslim women wear headscarves to avoid harassment when in public. This phenomena of Christian and other non-Muslim women wearing head coverings to avoid harassment is also happening in The Netherlands.

    I see no reason to believe that the same thing would not happen in Barbados if the Muslim demographic exceeded a certain percentage. There is nothing racist or anti-muslim in my comments or in BFP’s article. It is merely the recitation of facts, recent history and current social conditions, all of which is verifiable with a few minutes of research.

  9. Behind the Veil

    If Muslim women are chattels then I guess they would be home cleaning their husbands, fathers, brothers, sons houses not on Long Beach cleaning up so that bikini clad, half naked women and men can sunbathe and frolic in a clean surrounding.
    What absurdity you people put out!
    I guess “stealth jihad” is also practice by those numerous bajan men who have a wife at home and several deputies outside with children. What certain population demographics are they hoping to achieve?

  10. TWWIFOS

    PassinThru: Sorry, but your conspiracy theory does not hold up in the real world. I wonder how many Muslims you actually know, or have as friends? Most of the ones that’s I’ve talked to could care less about Sharia law. They are more concerned with the same things that most people are thinking about. Getting a good job, sending their kids to college or just putting food on the table. Most American Muslims that I know are happy to just assimilate into society and live their lives. They are not looking to “take over” anything.

    This is the problem I have with all these anti Muslim posts. They take a very small “extreme” part of Islam and lump all 1.5 billion Muslims into it. The scary monsters with the funny clothes are going to take over the world one day – unless we do something about it. This is insanity and no good will come out of it. This type of divisive, hate filled rhetoric must stay out of Barbados. Don’t wait till it gets here to stop it, cause once it’s here it ain’t going away.

  11. passing through south

    i was waiting for this to come up on bfp since it was in the nation and i could guarantee that only bfp would have it up.It is often said that members of the muslim community do not take part in activities to help out in certain area in Barbados but most of the time they do take part it is not highlighted in the press.However when it is highlighted comments like the one on bfp always come to light, and is always expected,yet when they r comments about whites in bim,bfp does not go down that road.A group of ppl practicing their religion coming out to help in a cause in bim and then when they see comments like what is written here,can you blame them if they fail to take part any longer.Always use the same words don;t you,muslims want to take over bim and in still shariah law to show and bring up hatred towards these ppl so that the focus would be off the whites in bim

  12. Glenda W.

    Women in my circle think of oppression when we see the burka. Some countries have outlawed the full covering and with good reason. It’s about women’s rights, individual freedom and gender equality. These concepts are foreign to the Islam I know.

  13. passing through south

    what is the muslim vision of barbados?pls elaborate in great detail and bring fwd proof and i don;t mean proof of muslims doing this and that in other parts of the world but i mean of proof locally. if you;re comparing muslims here to other parts of the world then maybe you can compare christians all over where the priest are luring young males to have sexual relations with them among many other things which go on in other religions besides islam.

  14. passing through south

    @ Glenda W…… question to you… you stated that ” women in your circle see it as an oppression when you see the burka” would you care to elaborate when you said such a thing.Also when women of the bretheren faith cover their hair, do you see it as oppression as well? have you ever asked the women who wear burka if they r oppressed or if it takes away their freedom?when women cover up like the muslim women cover up it is seen as oppression but when women are clad in the skimpiest of bikinis and are used to promote every thing from clothes to other products used on a daily basis in this world,then is that not seen as oppression of women as well?

  15. Islam has bloody borders

    Muslims are engaging in violent jihad in so many countries I can’t count with beheadings of teachers in Thailand, burning Christian churches in Indonesia, acid attacks on Coptic Christians in Egypt, kidnapping and forced conversions of Hindus in Pakistan and India.

    Here is one of thousands of stories, this one about a Christian man burned to death in March of this year in Pakistan. His crime? Failing to renounce his religion. It is a gruesome story but only one of thousands of religious murders by Muslims in the past few years.

    http://www.nowpublic.com/world/pakistan-muslims-burn-christian-man-policeman-rapes-his-wife

    passing through south, twwifos and other muslims would better benefit the world and Islam by spending their efforts trying to convince violent muslims not to murder, than to try and convince non-muslims that the religious murders aren’t happening.

  16. TWWIFOS

    IHBB:

    I am NOT a Muslim.

    This is a perfect example of what I’m talking about. Blaming everyone for what the most extreme elements are doing. This logic only leads to more violence.

  17. passing through south

    typical response as expected on bfp from ppl like Islam has Bloody Borders.Can you go and read back the title at the top.Can you come with arguements or a point of view relatiing to the heading given above instead of jumping all around the world.It is suggested in the article above that muslims in Barbados have an agenda.Pls come forward and show some sort basis for this suggestion instead of putting a pic of bajans born and bred here and just practising thier religion yet cominng out to help for the good of Barbados as a whole.

  18. I In Town Long

    Only a website that has an anti-Islam sidebar would promote this foolishness. Oh shoot ! I generated another comment for them . That makes it about 20 comments. By far the most in recent posts. I am further surprised that nine mike mike hasnt appeared as yet.

  19. runner

    @ in town.. nine mike–bfp’s negroman– is guarding the airport to be sure that the muslims show their face on air canada flights

  20. fair comment

    Pray tell what religious group doesn’t want converts to their cause?

    Is this photo really an issue of freedom of religion showing converts doing good community work or a medieval concept of the subjugation of women long since banned in more enlightened, educated and democratic societies?

  21. HM

    Anyone who thinks that Shariah law could ‘never’ happen in Barbados is naive. In Britain, it started off as equal rights as for other minority groups. Want to know how it is now? Demands, demands, demands.

    Demands for Shariah law, demands for women to be allowed to give evidence while completely covered. Demands for women to be able to teach while completely covered, demands for women to give evidence in court while completely covered, demands for girls to be completely covered while attending school and college, demands for giant Mosques and demands to be allowed to issue calls to prayer, demands for Halal meat in public places, demands for separate swimming sessions in public sporting venues….

    It is not unusual to find people that do not even want to mix with the local population and don’t want their wives to learn English (even after living in the UK for decades!)

    When I was at school we used to say a Christian prayer first thing in the morning. Think they do that now? Do you in Barbados do this anymore?

    Now, we cannot even be sure when we buy any meat (from fast food places, schools, supermarkets etc.) that it is not Halal – i.e. where Muslim prayers are recited before the animal is slaughtered.

    Think it could not happen in Barbados? Think again.

  22. island shopper

    @hm.. is there shariah law in uk? if ur answer is yeah then in which part of the uk?

  23. Timbus

    Barbados Free Press should know better. This article is does nothing to help Barbados move forward as progressive thinking Nation.

    Its a shame. Islam is a respected religion, especially to those who accept its teachings. It should not be made a mockery of.

  24. Heading West

    Just goes to show how misguided some people are in barbados and how they take something positive and turn it into a negative.Goes to show how bfp has a personal vendetta against muslims, and like their true colours throughout history have once again proven that some things never change but as the saying goes what goes around comes around if it isn’t happening already.

  25. Cat Woman

    I’ve been noticing that lately there’s been a lot of media attention being paid to the Muslim community in Barbados….almost like a media blitz!!!! Is this picture in the Sunday Nation supposed to foster goodwill between Muslims and Bajans? I for one am not comfortable with the way these women are required to cover-up in such a drastic way. No where in the Koran does it say that Muslim women need to be subjected to so harsh a dress code and in this hot weather to boot….a head scarf is all that’s required. This is a male-dominated religious culture that is happening among us, and in our society, it goes against everything that women have fought for and achieved over the last century. I feel for these women and I don’t believe for one second that this is the way of life they would choose for themselves if they had the right to choose. This is just the tip of the iceberg as to what we will see unfold here on this island if we continue to be “politically correct”. I don’t intend to have my West Indian culture over-run by these mad people. You show this picture to anyone outside of Barbados and they would never dream that it was taken in Barbados. Bajans better pay more attention to what’s going on in their country if they don’t want to lose their culture.

  26. Chicago

    Heading west: Many people do not see the full burka as “something positive”, myself included.

    For many women the full burka is as much a symbol of oppression and control as the swastika was when it flew over all europe save Britain. Symbols are important in any ideological struggle. Islam is not only a religion, it is a political system and a full way of life where every part of a person’s life is regulated and controlled often with harsh penalties. Thus the symbolism of the burka is powerful.

  27. Muslim agenda

    “Something is happening and I don’t know what it is… do you Mr Jones?” …lyrics from a Bob Dylan song.

    HM said: “Anyone who thinks that Shariah law could ‘never’ happen in Barbados is naive. In Britain, it started off as equal rights as for other minority groups. Want to know how it is now? Demands, demands, demands.” etc etc

    That person’s comments has made the most sense of all .. based on my personal knowledge of what is happening in Canada and Europe. The pressure by the Muslims is getting worse daily in those countries .. as their Muslim populations grow through legal and illegal immigration and high birth rates.

    A month ago I met an Anglican vicar from London whose church and school is NOW in a growing Muslim area. His stories confirm the fears most have of the Muslim agenda. He said:
    “The area was mostly West Indian – Jamaican mostly – before. Now the Muslim people have moved in and buying up blocks. On their “border” they have a mosque. It was zoned to have two stories… now they have built a six-story minaret and no one, including the government, dares to tell them to take it down.

    On Fridays they block the streets and close off traffic for their “prayers”. (They also do this in New York, I heard and saw in pictures). They are a law on themselves and practice Sharia law within their community. Secrecy and suppression is maintained, and even the police do not know what is really going on in their communities. The vicar said that they went to his church school and wanted special treatment and made demands for separate facilities – like washrooms, and separate use of the swimming pool etc – which were denied. They were told to go elsewhere for their education.

    What blew my mind was when the vicar said that when he walked down the street – the demarcation line between the Muslims and the Jamaicans, to see his Anglican parishioners, dressed in his vicar’s collar the Muslims took offense to that. Yes they did.. they said he must not walk there dressed in his collar. Can you believe that? In the UK… these Muslims are telling him what to do in his country with his Christian Anglican religion. They ask for freedom of religion and able to wear their burkas and turbans and whatever but then they want to stop others in other religions from wearing what they desire.. it is a one-way street for them.

    He said that there is tension between the Muslims and the Jamaicans, as they expand into a previously Caribbean area. However, he said that the Muslims fear the Jamaicans….. they know how far they can go with them… before all hell would break out.. so there is a simmering truce.

    I notice that there is a growing evidence of Muslims here, especially those in burkas. I see them (like the Indians as well), as merchants and business persons milking the economy… and not really being part of its social structure. These people do not respect “black people”, although they fear the ones who stand up to them.

    It is not a question of Muslim baiting. Keep your eyes open and observe. Why in two issues of the Nation – this Monday and Tuesday – there are Muslims featured in pictures? What connection does this have to the Muslim “businessman” caught with a container of marijuana … a person who has made regular shipments from the same shipper in the past. Look out! Be aware!!

  28. Chicago

    To island shopper about Sharia Law courts established in the UK.

    It is true, and the decisions they make are enforced by the UK law enforcement.

    The enforcement of Muslim laws by the overall UK law enforcement and judicial system is the key that makes Sharia law real in the UK.

    True, the UK regular justice system and police would not enforce some of Sharia law such as stoning or cutting off hands etc. However in child custody matters and other important decisions where the Muslim law is so different from UK law in that it favours males, the regular UK justice system will enforce a registered decision.

    Thus it can be seen that Sharia law (or rather parts of it) is the law in throughout the UK.

    Muslim women who go to the regular UK courts for a divorce are often pressured into agreeing to Sharia court where the laws favour men.

    Open your eyes, island shopper. Open your eyes.

    Ref: Revealed: UK’s first official sharia courts

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4749183.ece

    ISLAMIC law has been officially adopted in Britain, with sharia courts given powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.

    The government has quietly sanctioned the powers for sharia judges to rule on cases ranging from divorce and financial disputes to those involving domestic violence.

    Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system, through the county courts or High Court.

    Previously, the rulings of sharia courts in Britain could not be enforced, and depended on voluntary compliance among Muslims.

    It has now emerged that sharia courts with these powers have been set up in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Manchester with the network’s headquarters in Nuneaton, Warwickshire. Two more courts are being planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.

    Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.

    Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

    Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

    Siddiqi said: “We realised that under the Arbitration Act we can make rulings which can be enforced by county and high courts. The act allows disputes to be resolved using alternatives like tribunals. This method is called alternative dispute resolution, which for Muslims is what the sharia courts are.”

    The disclosure that Muslim courts have legal powers in Britain comes seven months after Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury, was pilloried for suggesting that the establishment of sharia in the future “seems unavoidable” in Britain.

    In July, the head of the judiciary, the lord chief justice, Lord Phillips, further stoked controversy when he said that sharia could be used to settle marital and financial disputes.

    In fact, Muslim tribunal courts started passing sharia judgments in August 2007. They have dealt with more than 100 cases that range from Muslim divorce and inheritance to nuisance neighbours.

    It has also emerged that tribunal courts have settled six cases of domestic violence between married couples, working in tandem with the police investigations.

    Siddiqi said he expected the courts to handle a greater number of “smaller” criminal cases in coming years as more Muslim clients approach them. “All we are doing is regulating community affairs in these cases,” said Siddiqi, chairman of the governing council of the tribunal.

    Jewish Beth Din courts operate under the same provision in the Arbitration Act and resolve civil cases, ranging from divorce to business disputes. They have existed in Britain for more than 100 years, and previously operated under a precursor to the act.

    Politicians and church leaders expressed concerns that this could mark the beginnings of a “parallel legal system” based on sharia for some British Muslims.

    Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “If it is true that these tribunals are passing binding decisions in the areas of family and criminal law, I would like to know which courts are enforcing them because I would consider such action unlawful. British law is absolute and must remain so.”

    Douglas Murray, the director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, said: “I think it’s appalling. I don’t think arbitration that is done by sharia should ever be endorsed or enforced by the British state.”

    There are concerns that women who agree to go to tribunal courts are getting worse deals because Islamic law favours men.

    Siddiqi said that in a recent inheritance dispute handled by the court in Nuneaton, the estate of a Midlands man was divided between three daughters and two sons.

    The judges on the panel gave the sons twice as much as the daughters, in accordance with sharia. Had the family gone to a normal British court, the daughters would have got equal amounts.

    In the six cases of domestic violence, Siddiqi said the judges ordered the husbands to take anger management classes and mentoring from community elders. There was no further punishment.

    In each case, the women subsequently withdrew the complaints they had lodged with the police and the police stopped their investigations.

    Siddiqi said that in the domestic violence cases, the advantage was that marriages were saved and couples given a second chance.

    Inayat Bunglawala, assistant secretary-general of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: “The MCB supports these tribunals. If the Jewish courts are allowed to flourish, so must the sharia ones.”

  29. jane

    The burqa and hijab are not symbols of piety, they’re slave cloths, nothing to be proud of. They’re shackle cloths, something to be cast aside in rejection of the female slavery which is Sharia. Wife beating, polygamy, pedophilia, baby thighing, honor killings, mutilations, slavery, killing non-muslims…and goodness knows if westerners knew of the real perversions of islam they would vomit. You name a perversion, and I mean every last one you can think of, and islam celebrates it. Go to crossmuslims and learn about the koran, sharia, jihad and hadiths. Brace yourself.

  30. Heading West

    To Jane , name these real perversions of islam you talk of.As u have mentioned about honour killings, wife beatings etc do you think all muslims practise these acts.I’m sure by using common sense you would realise that in each group there are certains numbers that give that group a bad name.And the so called “christians” are not any role models by any means.Priests that molest young boys,pastors that instead of leading his flock towards god instead leads them to his bedroom , so called christians that turn “holy” on a sunday and once church finishes , it’s “let it all loose” time.Adultery,alcohol abuse,partying , stealing other women’s husbands,backbiting etc etc and the list goes on and on without ending.

  31. Cat Woman

    Heading West….this issue is not so cut and dry as you make it out to be. This is not about comparing other religions and citing shortcomings. This is about a religious culture….and the word culture is what’s important here. What we’re seeing among us is a group of Muslim extremists who do not fit into our culture and they don’t want to.

    They’re setting up their own communities and have built schools which foster their own culture and beliefs all within the confines of this country we call Barbados. This move disallows the integration or sharing of cultures between us…..and cleaning up a beach or laying silver dollars on a pavement is not what I consider integration and acceptance of Bajan culture. That’s a bunch of PR crap designed to make Bajans feel that they are contributing. They’re not contributing to anything…they’re takers and that’s what they do regardless of where they go in the world.

    I’ll go one step further and say that extremism breeds terrorism and the Caribbean is now a prime target for terrorism by extremist Muslims since hotels house Americans, British, Europeans and other foreigners. The U.S., England and other European countries have made it more difficult for terrorists to carry out their mass murders because of the national security policies that have been initiated there. How soon do you think it will be before they turn their attention to easier targets in the Caribbean. You might say this is fear mongering or intolerance or racism but it’s a reality that can happen if extremists are given a free hand to do as they please within Barbados and other countries in our region. I guess, like everything else in Barbados, something bad has to happen before we sit up and take notice and appropriate action.

  32. yatinkiteasy

    Glad to see the French have voted to outlaw the Burka…
    I saw one at Pricesmart, and wonder what good is the photo ID that everyone is supposed to show upon entering.They even go into banks dressed like this, when normal people cant wear a motorcycle helmet. Go figure.
    If anyone is interested, take a look at this website..”Islam, The Religion of Peace”

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

  33. Mathilde

    I feel like fainting from empathy looking at this photo, must be SO HOT 😦 If I had to dress up like that my man better supply me with air conditioning 24/7 or he would’nt be able to come within 5 feet of me before getting swamped by B.O. BARF!

  34. Porky

    Islam is Truly Satanic

    Christian girl aged 21/2 raped then left to die for the greater glory of Allah.

    For some reason the BBC didn’t report this story, probably to avoid damaging Community Cohesion.

    “Baby Neeha, at the age of 21/2, was raped by the son of her father’s employer and left to die by the roadside, he said. No one was arrested for the crime.

    These horrific events took place because her father, who was Christian, refused to give in to pressure from his Muslim employer to convert to Islam,” El Shafie said.

    The family went underground in Pakistan to hide from Muslim extremists who were seeking revenge for their non-conversion, he said.

    “The family has lived for years in hiding and in constant fear of being discovered by the employer’s family or Islamic extremists,” El Shafie said. “We are thrilled that she’s finally in Canada.”

    For those of us seeking a better understanding Islam, there are a few points to note:

    The rapist wasn’t prosecuted, because according to Islamic law he hadn’t committed any crime. The ‘prophet’ Mohammed was a child-rapist, and Mohammed is the perfect man and role model for all Muslims. Also, rape is a legitimate weapon of Jihad, especially against children, as we saw in the Beslan school attack.

    Not only had the rapist not committed any crime, but his action was actually commendable from the Islamic point of view, because spreading Islam (by whatever means may be necessary) is the greatest good which justifies ANY action. The system of morality (if it can be called that) in Islam is totally different from that in any other religion.

    This attack also shows a common Islamic trait of getting at Christians by attacking children and other vulnerable people (as at Beslan and in the ‘Street Jihad’ intifada by young Muslim men).

    No compulsion in religion
    The fate of baby Neeha should make us wary of Muslims who tell us that the Koran says there should be ‘no compulsion in religion’. Yes the Koran does say that, but the statement is null and void, as the Muslim propagandists (but not the gullible infidels) very well know.

    The Koran is full of contradictions, and later violent verses (such as ‘Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them’) abrogate (cancel out) the earlier peaceful ones.

    The early peaceful verses were written when Mohammed was trying to recruit his fellow citizens of Mecca to join his cult. But he didn’t have much success among the people he’d grown up with, because they knew he was a nutjob.

    So he moved to Medina and adopted a different strategy of recruiting criminals and psychopaths by promising them lots of rape, murder and pillage in the service of Allah. This worked perfectly and gave us the version of Islam we see in action in the world today.

    Quoting abrogated parts of the Koran to deceive the infidels is one of the tactics of taqiyya (lying and deception in the cause of Islam).

    As I said before, increasing the power of Islam justifies ANY action, which includes lying as well as rape, murder and anything else you can think of.

    Consequently, Jens Orback is living in fluffy-bunny-land if he thinks that if we are nice to the jihadists when they’re in the minority, they’ll be nice to us when we’re in the minority.

    IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, STOP ISLAM!

    Otherwise there will be many thousands of baby Neehas and other violated kuffar children as Islam spreads throughout Europe, as the following links demonstrate…
    http://crombouke.blogspot.com/

  35. Mathilde

    p.s. the burqa is NOT Islamocentric. It originated in Saudi Arabia and no where in the Koran does it say that women should cover every last inch of their bodies. This is a cultural thing rather than a religious thing, the only problem is that more and more muslims are turning to extremes in these times.

  36. Good looking woman with a smile

    Mathilde: The burqa may not have been Islamocentric hundreds of years ago.

    IT IS NOW.

    Female genital mutilation may not have been Islamocentrice hundreds of years ago.

    IT IS NOW.

    FREEDOM NOW for our Muslim sisters in captivity.

  37. I Choose

    Wow! so much ado about something that a group of young women did out of their sense of duty for keeping our environment clean!!
    thanks for speaking out for us “oppressed” women. thanks for telling me what I should or should not be comfortable wearing! for all your information out there: I DRESS LIKE THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO!!!
    Do you women who let it all hang out not oppressed too? by society’s demands for you to conform to what is the ‘norm’ in fashion?? I am offended when you refer to me as chattel!! I am happy, I am comfortable with myself. and NO I AM NOT HOT!
    Those of us that went were of school age. Less than 16 years. At least you don’t have to worry about the length of our skirts or the tightness of our uniforms or what we are doing on a ZR van or mini-bus with a man twice our age or even the same age as us!!! At least with us, you don’t have to worry about unwanted preganancies, or unprotected sex!!!
    We were just trying to do our part in helping the environment. (By the way, would you like to know how many used condoms were found discarded on the same beach????) To those of you who gave us your support and were fair in your comments, I thank you. May God Bless you and Barbados!

  38. Heading West

    To “I Choose” , very good reply

    To Cat Woman , u say “This is not about comparing other religions and citing shortcomings.” So please tell me what are u doing when u criticise islam , u can give but u can’t take the heat when it’s thrown on ur side?Did i list anything false about christianity and its so called “christians”.Please also tell me how the muslims in barbados are extremists, i haven’t seen any muslims carry out terrorist acts in barbados , last i checked it was two barbadian youths that bombed campus trends and killed 6 women.Sounds to me like a case of “the pot calling the kettle black .”And for your information not all muslims in barbados are migrants , majority are born and bred barbadians and have every right to practise their religion just like how others in bim practise theirs.

  39. yatinkiteasy

    What was the religion of ALL of the 16 Hijackers that killed 3000 people on 911?
    No need to say more.

  40. I In Town Long

    What was the religion of Bush n Blair, who as a direct result of illegally invading 2 countries caused the deaths of millions of people(and counting still)? It seems to me the value of blood of some soils is greater than on others.
    There is more to be said.
    p.s. These two are not your regular go church once a week ‘christians’. They are devoted christians.

  41. I'm offended.

    Deeply offended by this photo in the newspaper.
    There will be riots in the streets because such an offense has been committed and maybe even a fatwah issued.Someone’s head must roll for causing us such offense, here in christian Barbados.

    All 19 hijackers were Saudis. They’re not nice people.

  42. 465246725-2364-F

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country,
    they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority,
    and not as a threat to other citizens.
    This is the case in:

    United States — Muslim 0.6%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1.8%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups,
    often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
    This is happening in:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
    For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food,
    thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.
    They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves –
    – along with threats for failure to comply.
    This is occurring in:

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them
    to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
    The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase
    lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.
    In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings.
    Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats,
    such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.
    Such tensions are seen daily,
    particularly in Muslim sections in:

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations,
    sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues,
    such as in:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks,
    and ongoing militia warfare,
    such as in:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions
    (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide),
    use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels,
    such as in:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing,
    and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim,
    such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace.
    Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim,
    the brainwashing Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word,
    such as in:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 100%

    ——————————————

    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, because in these 100% states
    the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred,
    and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

  43. piggy malone

    Anyone who believes that the chance of Muslim domination in Barbados or any other country is ZERO is not living in the real world. The practice of Stealth Jihad is taking place while most of us are focused on the dramatic suicide bombings and beheading of Westerners. Those atrocities are the exceptions that prove the rule. Once a “peaceful” majority of Muslims has taken control, as has happened in districts in the UK, Canada, etc, the extremists among the Islamic society will quickly takeover and it will be Goodnight Irene for Christianity and the western way of life. Fortunately our God does not sleep.
    But we must protect our Christian principles. How can it be an insult for a Christian top speak negatively about the Koran and acceptable for a Muslim to tell a Christian minister not to wear his collar?
    I say Oink! Oink! to them!

  44. island shopper

    maybe you guys should go back and read about the 16 supposedly saudi hijackers who still happen to be alive

  45. J

    Jane wrote “You name a perversion, and I mean every last one you can think of, and islam celebrates it.”

    Dear Jane. YOU LIE..

    None of the Abrahamic faiths “celebrate” perversions. NONE.

    But some people who call themselves, Christians, or Jews or Muslims do break the rules of their faiths and do sin. HUMAN BEINGS SIN. It does not mean that the religion “celebrates” sin.

    You know that that is not true.

    That said I congratulate the women for going out to do some good commmunity work.

    And maybe some women cover their bodies because they feel more comforable doing so.

    Don’t many Christian women also dress modestly? Don’t many of us insist that our daughters and wives dress modestly?

    Don’t we send children home from school for immodest dress?

    I wasn’t so long ago that Christian women in this Barbados wore ankle length dresses and sleeves which reached at least below the elbows and they wore hats too.

    Didn’t ALL our grandmothers wear hats to church?

    How soon we forget.

    And of course Barabdos Free Press is irresponsible AS USUAL.

  46. J

    I in town long wrote “p.s. These two are not your regular go church once a week ‘christians’. They are devoted christians.”

    Really? I thought that like most politicians these 2 did not believe in anything or anybody except power and money.

    I wouldn’t call either of them devout.

    Not by a long. long stretch.

  47. Porky

    Muslims don’t give a Damn Shit about the environment,just look at their country who are garbage bins at open sky.
    The arrogance of these people never ceases to amaze me. Can anyone explain the benefits of muslim immigration? I would feel so much better if I could find just one positive aspect of muslim immigration to the West. What productive, beneficial contributions do muslims make to the countries they invade?
    I could list a hundred negative effects caused by muslims and their incongruous religion, but not a single positive comes to mind. Whenever a muslim makes the news, it’s not for heroism, philanthropy, scientific discovery, academic achievement, or technological innovation. Muslims make the news for plotting terrorism, enacting terrorism, honor killings, hate screeds, rape and vandalism, graft and corruption, welfare fraud, and grievance theater.
    Islam is a serial murderer of entire cultures and peoples. This is what Islam has done throughout its entire history. Those whom it does not destroy, it enslaves and impoverishes. Islam is the enemy. Islam must be destroyed.

  48. david

    i have been studying islam for the past 6 mths it is the only religon that makes sense . The quran is a wonderful book that agrees totally with science i am planning on becoming muslim next week. Who are the women that are really treated as chattel those are the number of half naked women in barbados that need more than one man to survive financially. Most women in barbados are prositutes these are the ‘chattles’ of this world

  49. Doatish

    I seriously thought I had stumbled on a yahoo story yahoo, what with all the yahoo written here…then I realised the image was taken in Barbados, and the persons featured here are likely to be Barbadian.
    Every religion has its draw backs; if I were one to engage in rhetoric, I would share some examples but in an audience like this, I rather believe it suffices to say; like a writer said elsewhere, that it appears to be open season on Muslims.

  50. 3

    if its open season on muslims guess who worked on deserving it? islam is a religion hiding an oppressive political system

  51. BFP

    Hello Porky

    Marcus here from BFP.

    Although I believe that Islam has many foundational problems and that the values and standards as expressed in the Koran will continue to spawn violence for the foreseeable future, I’d like you to think about the millions and millions of folks who are caught up in Islam through no decision of their own.

    Remember that people are people and the vast majority of Muslims under ordinary circumstances are decent folks like everyone else just trying to make their way in life, love and be loved and want desperately to avoid trouble with anyone – especially the authorities both religious and political although they amount to the same thing under Islam. Millions and millions (hundreds of millions? who knows?) of Muslims would probably leave or ignore their religion were it not for the fact that leaving or ignoring Islam is dangerous – sometimes fatally so. Islam is a political system, an entire way of life, not just a religion. For the most part it has been, and still is, imposed upon its “followers” through the built in threats and controls and religious “leaders”.

    Many of the victims of Islamist violence are Muslims themselves who don’t toe the line.

    We should remember that when we talk about “all Muslims” this or that.

    My argument is with Islamists and Muslim supremacists – who wish to impose their nazi-like control over the world, and use all forms of jihad (violent and non-violent) to advance their cause.

    The world’s problem is that Islam needs reform, but one of the big obstacles is that the Koran is said by Muslims to have been delivered straight from Allah in the language of Allah and is “perfect”. The Koran is not mutable or easily “culturally interpreted” or “translated” to soften it as the Christian Bibles and scriptures have been softened. Considering what the Koran says, that inability is problematic and I don’t foresee any large scale Islamic Reformation on the horizon.

    Still, in all that we must remember that people are people.

    For all our faults, Western civilization including Barbados allows people to progress and develop as individuals with freedom and dignity. This is not true of Muslim-majority countries. Consider the single fact that about 50% of Muslims are women and they are denied equality and freedoms on the basis of their gender.

    We must stand fast to the values that built our societies. Where Islamic law and standards come into conflict with our laws and standards, we cannot excuse or allow Islamic values to stand equal with our laws and standards. Western societies like Barbados have been more than accommodating to Muslim demands, but the demands never stop.

    So the battle continues on all fronts to resist Islamists – but we must remember that people are people, for that thought probably holds some of the answers we need to retain the freedoms in Western societies that took so long to achieve.

  52. I In Town Long

    @ J, read this link about Blair and then tell me he doesnt call himself a devout christian..
    http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/44123-blair-god-told-me-go.html

    About Bush, here is an article….
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/02/usa.religion
    If you dont care to read it, here is a quote from the article……
    “Bush said to James Robinson: ‘I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can’t explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen… I know it won’t be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.’ ”

    I have nothing further to say about the two biggest terrorists of this century.

  53. J

    david wrote “Most women in barbados are prositutes”

    Dear David: You know that this is a LIE.

  54. J

    Fear I in town long. Just because Blair and Bush have said that they are Christian doesn’t make them so. Just remember that not everyone who says “Lord, Lord” shall enter into the Kingdom or beaven

  55. WHY am I depressed?

    Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel ,
    “Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land.”

    Nearly 75 years ago (when Welfare was introduced) William Lyon Mackenzie King said,
    “Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a Camel, this is the Promised Land.”

    Now Harper has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of Camels,
    and mortgaged the Promised Land!

    I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars,
    lost jobs, savings, retirement funds, etc. . .
    I called Lifeline.
    Got a call center in Pakistan of all places

    “I told them I was suicidal.
    They got all excited and asked me
    if I could drive a truck…

    What?!

  56. add

    whoever wrote this article is anti semitic and racist

  57. Those of you who think these women are oppressed, that Islam is a violent religion and the other nonsense I found in the above comments are examples of the type of ignorance that prevails in our world today. Like millions of others around the world you have allowed yourself to be manipulated by the media, you believe blindly what the media says and portrays. You are unnecessarily destroying a religion and a people.
    My best friend is a young Muslim girl, she wears the hijab, she prays, and of all the people I know, she derserves the most respect.
    She serves Barbados, perhaps more than any of you. She volunteers at the hospital, partakes in campaigns againt AIDS, she was one of the most proactive females in Secondary School, constanstly encouraging those younger than her to take part in various wholesome competitions, she puts aside money EVERY WEEK for charity (for those in Barbados who live in poverty)….and my list can go on.
    She is a Muslim woman, who wears the hijab and she is my friend. There are many others like her, in fact millions, before you decide to post nonsense go out explore, the REAL world, not the world you see on television, online or in newspapers, understand other people and cultures and you’ll realize that underneath it all they are just people like you and me, who are seeking a purpose in this world.
    For those of you who are interested, yes i go to Church but i do not consider myself a Christian…..however, when i am ready to commit myself to a religion i will consider Islam because never have i met anyone so heart-warming, generous, intelligent, or life-changing as my best friend, who is a Muslim and who wears the hijab!

  58. huh?

    The author of the article is anti semitic? I don’t think so:

    Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is prejudice against or hostility towards Jews, often rooted in hatred of their ethnic background, culture, and/or religion. In its extreme form, it “attributes to the Jews an exceptional position among all other civilizations, defames them as an inferior group and denies their being part of the nation[s]” in which they reside.[1] A person who practices antisemitism is called an “antisemite.”

    Racist?

    HUH?

    Where in the article does it say a thing about race?

    add, You sure is stupids!

  59. huh?

    Underneath it all, I’m happy your best friend is a Muslim girl and so devoted to the community.

    I don’t understand how that means that “the media” stories about the massacre in Mumbai, or the beheadings in Indonesia or the London transit bombings or the Madrid train bombings or the 1000 Buddhist teachers killed on the Malaysia border in the last 3 years did not happen.

    If you get my point.

  60. Yes..blame the media

    for a totalitarian political system now exposed for what it is..a wolf in religious clothing

    That old fashioned shifting-the-blame approach is not working..so come again?

    All over the world now we see media-against, media-for and media-neutral.most intelligentsia have long learned to compare the output of all three while paying attention to various eyebrow-raising factors. those of us with decent comprehension skills and little gullibility remaining can easily sort out wheat from chaff.
    its not like we still blindly believe everything seen in print just because someone made the investment to commit ink to paper.
    those days are long gone.we know propaganda when we see it,but thanks for yours anyhow,

  61. I In Town Long

    @ depressed , you made me laugh today. thank you.

  62. add

    to huh?
    anti-semitic include muslim as well u would have to be an idiot not to know that because u are using oxford dictionary and not true definition of what semitic means.

  63. add

    As for racism i know who wrote this article and he is a racist as well

  64. truth

    All i can say is im saddened by this article …..thought the author would be more intelligent but i guess the plantation owners freed us physically but we are still mentally enslave and the most dangerous thing they have enslaved us with was christianity . The muslims at least have the guts in palestine and other places to stand up to these colonial thugs

  65. whistling frog

    All that glitters is not gold ,
    Why these women on the beach in their garb
    No one will ever be told
    Maybe its some sort of manipulation
    Of some other well thought determination
    Only the true God knows well
    Only time will ever tell!

  66. Cat Woman

    Heading West….frankly speaking, I DO NOT CARE what you think. I have rights too, and I’m exercising my rights to speak about how I feel about living with EXTREMIST Muslims…note the word I use EXTREMIST. I’m a West Indian and I choose to live in a region that promotes my culture. These people need to go and live in places that promote theirs.

  67. Sigh

    Cat Woman you’re as ignorant as they come.
    These woman born right hay so.
    If you’re black u should get your ignorant self back to Africa! if you’re white then get the hell out of Barbados!!!

  68. Cat Woman

    Sigh…I think you’re the ignorant one because if a Muslim born in Barbados has rights, then a black or white person born in Barbados has the same rights. I think you need to find out who you are before you start telling people of West Indian culture that they should go back to Africa or Europe. What an ass!!!!

  69. Anonymouse Not By Choice

    Hmmmm………is it possible that these Muslim women just chose to protect themselves from the searing Barbados sun? If nothing else, they can be accused of cultivating and maintaining a cultural desire for fair skin?

  70. Heading West

    To Cat Woman:-
    U say u have rights, don’t you think the muslims who by the way are also west indians(born and bred) have the same rights and who do you think you are to tell people where they should go and live , if they have to go somewhere else to live then u shud pack ur ass on the next plane and head to hell out as well!And i’m here still waiting on your reply as to how the muslims of barbados are extremists.Do you even know the meaning of the word or are you one of those persons that wasted time in school and instead were joyriding with every zr and minibus man u cud find.You sure are a clever one hahahahha.Wake up and crawl out from your cave!

  71. Cat Woman

    Heading West…I DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING YOU SAY….do you get it this time around or did you fail English comprehension.

  72. island shopper

    ahhahaha cat woman can;t handle the pressure… run away cat woman

  73. Heading West

    To Cat Woman:-

    Me fail english hahahahha, more like u didn’t even grasp the basic concepts of the english language poor girl.

  74. Adam

    Utter nonsense! It’s their vision for themselves not their vision for Barbados. Doesn’t every religious (and non-religious) group have a vision? Muslims have been in Barbados since 1910 but they have never engaged in any attempt to mass-convert non-Muslims. In fact, they rarely participate in politics (in 100 years, they have only been 2 Muslim politicians and neither of them have attempted to “Islamisize” Barbados).
    Whoever runs Barbados Free Press has an issue with Muslims and despite claiming to be a reporter, makes no attempt to discriminate between a mass of over 1,5 Billion people.
    Bigoted and Spine-less fear-mongering!

  75. Heading West

    Adam wrote “Whoever runs Barbados Free Press has an issue with Muslims”

    Only one type of people that still controlling BIM from behind the shadows and although this is the 21st century , some things like controlling the mindset of the people never changes either.Unshackled physically but not mentally.The more people think things change the more they remain the same.

  76. whistling frog

    All those anti muslims,,,,fear not!!!!!!
    Those statements placed here on Barbados Free Press supporting Muslims are obviously from Muslims themselves ,,,,,,,,
    I know within that no One Individual who so lives in this God Given Place called Barbados and with a right mind could ever embrace such a Backward,Intolerant,Obnoxious,Self Centered,Disgusting,Pathetic,Idiotic,Malignant,Destructive religion Named MUSLIM or whatever name they hide under.MAY THEY NEVER GET A HOLD ON THIS ISLAND,,,GOD HEAR MY CALL!!!!!!!!

  77. island shopper

    @whistling frog …. you come out to spit ur hatred but pls inform ur self first that their is no religion call muslims.You may also find it a shocker but many who have posted in support of the muslims are not actually muslims.Just pointing out to the white controlled bfp that they make a good attempt at distracting the blacks and all others from placing their attention against the whites and all the economical power they still control in Barbados but don;t fear,that shall end soon

  78. Heading West

    To Whistling Frog:-

    Are you so intellectually disable that you don’t even know the religion’s rightful name.It’s a pity for people like you that things like intelligence can’t be bought!Why do we want a hold on the island, to do what , convert ppl to become muslims.We don’t need to do that because over the last couple years people willingly have become muslims by seeing the true and rightful ways of islam.So you can go on preaching your hatred , for the more people like you preach your hatred the more people are embracing islam.And don’t worry it’s not people like us that are out to get anyone , it’s always the ones that have maintained that plantocracy ideology all those centuries and are still doing it today.They are the real ones to look out for not us.

  79. BFP

    Whistling frog,

    You would do well to reconsider some of your tone and thoughts. The vast majority of Muslims are born into their religion as you and I were probably born into ours. Our concern and our fears are with the Islamic supremacists and with the foundational “holy” writings, values and standards of the religion that inspire such violence.

    In all our discussions though, we try to remember that people are people, and that millions – perhaps hundreds of millions – of nominal Muslims would leave that political/religious system tomorrow if they could do so without fear of violence against themselves or their loved ones.

    Please consider what I’ve said and tone down your comments about five notches… ok?

    Marcus for BFP

  80. Bajan Muslim

    First time i am reading these comments, i find there is a total misconception about islam, islam is a religion about peace and equality.
    With regards to women covering there bodies, in Barbados all women who wear Burkas do so by their own choice, how can people look down on modesty and uphold immoral dress, beats me.
    I think Barbados society has to take a good look at itself and bring back some morality into it.
    Muslims did not invade any countries, I wonder who did?

  81. Muslims did not invade?

    What kind of nonsense is that you’re spouting?

    Muslims did not invade any countries? Never?

    All women wearing burkas do so at their own choice?

    Islam talks of Equality? What about women not driving, voting or choosing their own mates? What about highways in Saudi Arabia where only muslims can drive?

    Equality for all under Islam? You’re talking nonsense but the worst part is you know it and say it wit a straight face.

  82. ninemikemike

    Ya tink it can’ happen here….?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8038820/British-schools-where-girls-must-wear-the-Islamic-veil.html

    All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.

    Islam is evil, and B’dos is the home of the good. Don’t let it happen.

  83. ninemikemike

    @ Bajan Muslim…

    “islam is a religion about peace and equality.”

    Ya tink we fallin’ fuh dat?

    Tell it to the women stoned to death for being raped, to the one held down by four men while her husband cut off her nose and ears for the crime of wanting to leave his brutality, to Christians in Saudi Arabia, tell it to the girls being genitally mutilated.

    Islam is a stone-age belief system whose deity mohammed the paedophile barbarian (misery be upon him) has commanded his demented followers to exterminate the Jew, and kill the kaffir and any who dare to try to leave this ‘religion of death’.

    Personally I think its practice should be banned in civilised countries for being a clear and present threat to national security.

  84. SuperWoman

    I cannot believe big grown adults made this into an issue…these people were doing something good…that’s the main point here…

    Theres plenty of christians and jews who have entered Islam regardless of what non muslims think of Islam….choke on that….God bless .

  85. ninemikemike

    SuperWoman….“Theres plenty of christians and jews who have entered Islam..”

    That’s the point – they can enter, but they can’t leave. Wake up.

  86. super woman

    To the illiterate person above…they entered Islam because chritianity is flawed and they found the truth in Islam..therefore they wouldnt want to leave….Seriously your reply was silly….God bless you….anyways mr…I’m going on a trip..im going to zante,relax chill…love life…..so wont be able to reply..but do your research…avoid looking stupid…:)…tata

  87. HM

    This is NOT benign. It is dangerous.

    It is all very well to go on about the fact that ‘most’ Muslims are moderate, but the more they talk, the more it becomes clear what their real views are. For example, the common attitude is that unveiled & uncovered women have at best ‘suspect morals’ and at worst are ‘whores’.

    Do you really know what is going on in some of these schools or Mosques? Who is inspecting them? For example, universities here in the UK have had real issues with extremist students and speakers.

    British Universities usually have Christian groups and Muslim groups. Which of these groups has threatened the other when they don’t get their own way? (‘We want the bigger prayer/meeting room’, ‘We want your room…’ etc.) Here’s a clue – it’s not the Christian groups.

    (Let alone – we want your Church)

    Many of the preachers in the Mosques here in the UK have come over from Pakistan and Middle Eastern countries and have very extreme views. There have been so many criminal cases here in the UK where people have been found with documents about how to make explosive devices, photographs and other evidence of them on ‘weapons’ training in Asia (or UK countryside) etc. etc.

    Bajan society is by and large open and honest and TRUSTING. It only takes a few extremists to cause chaos.

    Carry on the way you are and one day you’ll be like us – afraid that you may be blown up one day by some brainwashed (or drugged up) lunatic.

    Think they really have respect for the average Bajan? Think again – they are only interested in people that they can manipulate and use.

  88. Just asking!

    Can anyone name a Muslim woman in Barbados who is in a position of leadership and authority in the Bajan Islamic community?

    Just asking! (to make a point)

  89. GIRL IN THE PICTURE

    On behalf of all the people in the picture(including me)!!!
    To summarize what all you people think about us as muslim women:
    firstly we are not opressed…I dont get why the public feel that muslim women are opressed!!!
    Its just simple…if we as ppl wearin this viel dnt feel we r oppressed y shud ppl who dnt wear it think dis way !!!
    some people frequently ask the question as to why we WEAR THIS N Y SUM PPL WEAR IT N NOT OTHERS!!!the reason we wear it its lyk JUST AS A ROSE PROTECTS ITS BEAUTY BY THORNS…A MUSLIMAH PROTECTS HER BEAUTY BY HIJAAB!!!…..N Y SUM PPL N NOT OTHERS WEAR IT CUZ some ppl feel they r not ready whilst others it may b just cuz they dnt wanna wear it(jus lyk in sum religons sum ppl obey whilst others dnt they r always the storng n the weak)!!!!

    N LASTLY JUS STICK TO THE BARBADOS MUSLIMS STOP THINKIN WHAT THOSE YOU LOT SO THINK DOIN DIS DOIN DAT IN OTHER COUNTRIES!!!
    FORGIVE ME FOR ANY MISTAKES I’VE MADE!!!

  90. WE ARE NOT OPPRESSEDE....

    for those of you who think we are oppressed..here is an article by a muslim woman who wear de hijab..she lives in france where the hijab is banned..

    A VOICE BEHIND A VEIL

    In light of the recent bans being pushed by France, Syria etc., I felt a strong need, as a one of the Women being targeted, to speak up,

    Below is an article that I have compiled, and I pray to Allah Ta’ala that He use it anywhere, and anyhow to enlighten whomever He wills.

    A VOICE BEHIND A VEIL:
    I am a Muslim women. I wear the niqab (face veil).
    I’m one of those to whom the new law in France would apply. I’m one of the ones being discussed by politicians, human rights groups and the media.
    I’m one of those whom many feel the need to liberate.
    I’m one of those you may think is oppressed.
    I’m one of those many of you detest the sight of…
    I’m one of those whom you may believe is uneducated; one of the ones you may think has no voice.
    But I do. So let me speak.

    I am not Arab, Asian or even African. I am Australian. No, not ‘first generation’, ‘second generation’, or an immigrant. On my mother’s side, I’m of French-Canadian descent, and on my father’s side; British. I grew up as a Christian, and attended church occasionally. I was in the school swim team, and district netball team. I holidayed with my family in the summer on the Gold Coast, and I’m educated. I have a university degree.
    When I was 18 years of age I was introduced to Islam. I studied it, and accepted it a year and a half later. By the time I reached 20, I was wearing the headscarf, and after I married I donned the niqab. Because of my husband? No.
    My husband did not want me to wear it, although his mother and sister do, and out of respect for his wishes I didn’t do so for two years. But I wanted to, and eventually did, and knowing it to be in line with our religion, my husband knew he had no authority to prevent me, and he now greatly admires my strength.

    Then, I wore it because of my father? No. He’s a catholic.
    Because of my brother? Nope, haven’t got one.
    My uncle? He’s an atheist.
    Then because of my son? My eldest is only 8 years old. Then why??
    Because I want to, that’s why.
    And seeing as though my niqab does not hurt anyone, that should be sufficient reason for all of you liberals of a liberal society; I should be able to finish my discussion right here. But although it may be so for any other style of dress, it isn’t enough when it comes to niqaab for some reason. You want more. So I will continue.
    What makes me want to then? Two things: Faith and experience.

    Faith? Yeah, faith. Faith in my Creator , faith in His decisions, faith in Islam. A deep faith.Many wander at the faith of Muslims, at their conviction and their commitment. It’s a faith, that if you are not Muslim, is hard to explain or describe.
    The scripture of Islam, the Qur’an has scientific miracles in it, such that have captivated scientists globally, leading many to accept Islam. Moreover, the Qur’an has not been changed in over a thousand years, since it was revealed; not one letter moved from its place. I dare say there isn’t a religious scripture like it, and this lends a clue as to the root of such faith.

    In the Qur’an, Allah Ta’ala tells us to cover ourselves, ‘so as to be known, but not molested’. So our covering is a protection; a liberation.
    Protection? you ask. Liberation? From what?

    This is where I move on to my second reason for veiling. Like I said, I grew up in a Western secular society, in true Western secular style. I dressed secular, lived secular, and enjoyed all the ‘liberties’ of such a society. Did I feel liberated, free? Suffice to say, we were taught we were, so I never thought to think otherwise. It wasn’t until I became Muslim, and started covering , that I really felt liberated, and realised , before that I wasn’t.
    Yet, time and time again we hear it said that we Muslim women are forced to veil, are oppressed; treated by our men folk as nothing more than ‘objects.’ And that niqab, burqa, hijab; whatever term you use, is a form of ‘imprisonment’.

    But what about the imprisonment of anxiety and depression? What about the imprisonment of anorexia and bulimia?
    What about the imprisonment of frequent rigorous exercise routines?
    What about the imprisonment of always feeling the need to look like the super-model on the cover of Cosmo, or the pop-singer in the music video?
    What about the slavery to fashion?
    What about the entrapment of jealousy??

    How many women waste their hard-earned money, destroy their physical and mental health, expose their bodies to vulnerability, abuse and extortion in order to……in order to what??
    In order to gain approval and praise. Who’s approval and praise? Men’s.
    And yes, it seems even other women too. So it seems non-Muslim women are not only slaves to men, but slaves to society as a whole.

    Before you scream your disagreement, which many of you may do as a knee-jerk reaction to being told you’re also oppressed , stop and think. Look around you, contemplate society today, and its values, its aspirations, its goals, its direction, its past-times, its hobbies….
    What good has it done for women to doff more and more clothing?
    What good has it done for images of uncovered made-up women to be plastered on every billboard and magazine, on the TV, in the movies, and on the net? Has it really brought any good for women?

    The women in the images may aptly feel good about themselves for a while, but what does it mean for every other women?
    Women who look upon these images usually become anxious, jealous, unsure and critical of themselves, or all of these things.

    Many men who view them will become aroused, or even unhappy, less satisfied with the partners they already have. What can, and does this lead to?Cheating, dumping, chastisement, and even harassment of other women, and even children by, men who cannot find a legitimate outlet for their constant arousal.

    And yes, I can hear some of you; ‘then the men must control themselves!’ Frankly speaking that argument is well spent, not to mention futile, as most men are, inherently, only able to react to that, the same way a hungry lion would react if thrown a juicy piece of steak, and told not to eat it….

    Do the uncovered women captured in these images and industries, or parading around, realise or even care how many young girls are starving, purging and stressing themselves trying to mirror their image? No.

    It seems they even take perverse pleasure in it. One barely-dressed singer even boldly and crudely sung recently, ‘Don’t you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?’
    What?!
    What is this women and her ilk saying??
    What are they implying??
    What are they doing to their sisters in humanity??!
    So many poor girls, eroding themselves physically and mentally as they watch with jealousy and anxiety their partners ogle singers like this. Have the same thing occur to these women, these ‘idols’; have their partners swoon over another similarly attired, and witness their reaction! And when their daughters are molested by men they themselves, or women like them, have aroused, will they reflect?
    Will they act?
    Will society act?

    Yeah, we see it reacting: ban the burqa!
    It just amazes me how many women especially, despise my choice of dress. Yet, would they rather their husband’s secretary to be dressed like me or otherwise?
    Would they rather the waitress serving the table at their anniversary dinner, be dressed like me or otherwise?

    Is it me and my sisters who are turning their husband’s head, or attracting their boyfriends??
    Is it me and my sisters who have led their daughters to anorexia, or their sons to pornography?

    Is it me and my sisters whose bodies and faces solicit their husband’s/boyfriend’s attention on every corner? Is it me and my sisters who have aroused that man to rape or harass their sisters?
    Whose mode of ‘dress’ is truly oppressive and harmful to women??

    So now I’ve spoken, and although I am one, I speak on behalf of hundreds. I’ve explained to you that the majority of us have chosen this mode of dress, especially in the West. I have told you that we love it, we want it, and I’ve exemplified for you the inherent good in it.

    So to those of you who really are so concerned about ‘liberating’ me, then you will listen to what I have said, and let me and my sisters be.

  91. Girl In de pic(luv whipcream)

    that article i just post under de name WE ARE NOT OPPRESSEDE….was written by a muslim woman who lives in france and also wears de hijab..i post that article so u can understand that we are not oppressed..cuz i am 1 of dose girls in de pic who went to help clean up. i’ll say once again we are not oppresed we chose to wear it …it is u who are oppressed…going fa now

  92. GirlInThePic#2

    Since my two friends have alread placed their views above^ I will state my own views and hope you people comprehend it.

    First off, we went to the beach for a Geography project DUNDUNDUN!

    Second off it was also to help OUR country ’cause we are Barbadians. Isn’t this a good deed of ours Yes it is.

    Third off, Everyone has five fingers and they are all differnet. This is the reason why some where complete Hijab and some don’t. Every muslim is different so stop comparing us Barbadian muslims to the Pakis .. who rage war all the time and are terrorists. I as a muslim can tell you that NO REAL MUSLIM would ever hurt any innocent lives and if they do, may Allah Ta’ala forgive those brothers and sisters.

    Fourth, have you all forgotten we all came from the same people? Adam and Hawa, known as (Eve)? Or do you just think we are aliens from outer space? Someone said that muslims don’t drive but I can prove you wrong. Women do drive, so that person is a “fail”.

    Fifth, The person called Jane who goes to the site “crossmuslims” wher i talks about things which aren’t true about us, you are seriously misinformed. You know why? Because our beloved prophet whom we LOVE so much more than wealth, family, life, even your husband, mother and father (but not god)! He was a prfect exampe of what ANY PERSON should be like. He was no rapist or pedophile or “nutjob”. He never had sexual intercourse with Aisha (r.a). She remained a chaste woman for her entire life. Those who say he was a pedophile, May Allah Ta’ala forgive you! This is God’s most beloved person and you talked about him in this way, I surely don’t know what punishment awaits those people, but it ain’t good :/.

    Sixth, the people in this picture, these girls (including me) we are only from the ages 14-16.

    We pose no threat to this country, we only wish to live in peace and spread our wonderous religion to those who want to join. We don’t force non-muslims to embrace Islam. So whatever foolishness I read above about “forcing people to accept Islam and muslims are the most perverted etc” is all false. People even mentioned the 9/11 incident. Well…guess what my fellow brother and sisters..NEWS FLASH! we aren’t pakis..we are BARBADIANS, so why do you continue to compare us? Who knows why, only god does. Maybe the media hs corruted your minds already enough. You know once one of my friends got asked “we dont even know wuh wunna does got unduh dah thing! wana cud be hidin guns!” < This is a perfect example of how the media corrupted people's minds to think that all muslims are terrorist. I despise the media tbh.

    Seventh, I've decided to give you people a few pointers on Muslims:

    a) muslims are NOT terrorists ( those who are terrorists ar not muslims, they pretend to be muslims to make us look bad, common knowledge)

    b) Hijab is compulsory on anyone who has reached the age of puberty. Reason being to hide one's beauty so no unfortunate events occur. Eg, rape. It's a form of protection. Did you hear that? Feel it..embrace it! It protects us!

    c) Muslims are suppse to be peaceful and loving. Onc again (NOT TERRORIST)!

    d) The prophet was not a pedophile. Do not make a mockery of what you don't know. That is a sin in EVERY religion. Common knowledge once again.

    e)MUSLIM WOMEN CAN DRIVE! DUHHH (im plannign to getmy license next year, no one is stopping me).

    f)FACT – Did you guys even know that the Government system was etablished by the muslims? Yes it was. After the prophet died there were leaders after him, one was calle Umar and he etalished te governent system for the first time. So what is sooooooooooo wrong about muslims leading for an era once more? What if a muslim became prime minister? What do you think she's going to do? Kick you all out? Enslave you? Make you accept Islam? Kil you? CHop yur heads off? pleaseeeeeeeeee That is all nonsense. Se woud rule like anyone else. She would possibly invite you towards islam but not force you, nor kill you, nor kick you out, nor eat you alive, nor enslave you. I will say it once again, Islam is a religion of Peace. Get that through your thick skulls!

    I wonder if there is anywhere in your studies tat tell you about who brought about the government system..

    g) Oh and we are not perverts…we may think like normals girls and boys but we are not perverted in the way of pedophilia, racism, raping..etc (But apparently some christian priests are?? O.o)

    h) There are different types of muslims(bet you never knew that) I am A Suni muslim – this type of muslim is said to be the better of the others judging on the beliefs. The different muslims have different beliefs about Islam.

    i)If the 9/11 attack was really caused by "muslims" then by my knowledge^ and what I said you should come to know that those couldn't be real muslims, as we would not do anything of the sort. Btw Bush has always had it out for us :/.

    j) Beheading..chopping off your hands, severe beatings,etc. Are strict Islamic rules and these are the things that were done during our prophets time and are continued till this day to follow the tradition, there is nothing wrong in it. These things are done to teach lessons so they won't commit the act ever again. Once in the past a father had to give his OWN son for consumng alcohol (but he was unaware he had drank alcohol tho) a number of lashses which resulted in his death.

    k) If you didn't know, then I will tell you that in the times before many people had accepted Islam because of our prophet's sublime character not by the way of the sword. If only the Christans from before had listened to the prophet, then all of this confusion (this as an example) would not be happening. What a wonderful world this would be..

    If we had all opened our eyes to see…

    Ok i think I made myself clear, thanks for reading this if you did.

    I hope you guys understand some new thins about us 🙂
    I hope I helped.
    I hope I become a great scholar one day.
    I hope Inshallah that next time things won't get out of hand because of our Geography projects ;).

    Bye for now!

  93. girl in the pic #3

    i guess a lotta of the people who are misunderstnding our purpose of this act of partaking in a beach clean up…..was just not sure why we wear the niqaab 4 so deh jus assume the wrngest of possiblities in their minds..honestly none of these GIRLS here were forced to wear it…why??? bcuz they’ve been taught their religion…the true 1 and now the love for islam is instilled in their heart they want to obey its rules…my friend #2 jus like many of us muslims wishes to only portray the best and most correct image of our religion,and as she said the reason 4 dis beach clean up was 4 a geography sba and as a contribution to the barbadian society..as part of a beach clean up.we wish to b treated jus as the other bajans….becuz at the end of the day we are all humans. to those who are saying wrng things…please go and find out more about our religion be4 u assume…as girl #2 said the media has power and can put alot into our heads..whether true or not.

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  95. Be Fair

    Since you guys are so sure.. bring one muslim to me tomorrow that is afraid of leaving islam.
    SERIOUS!

  96. Be Fair

    most of these women who cover themself do this before marriage
    you guys know that? its their choice…
    thats their freedom to do what they want…
    how can they be opressed? go talk to 50 women tht got them face cover up and tell me if any of them wish they ddint have to,

  97. Woman Choice

    Be Fair say “its their choice… thats their freedom to do what they want…”

    You must be a Muslim MAN. LISTEN to wat the girl herself say comments

    “Hijab is compulsory on anyone who has reached the age of puberty. Reason being to hide one’s beauty so no unfortunate events occur. Eg, rape. It’s a form of protection.”

    COMPULSORY!!!

    Not to wear hair covering in Saudi Arabia and see what happen. Not to wear it in some parts of public streets in Paris and see what happen. Not to wear it in some parts of public streets in London an see.

    You a MAN.

  98. Be Fair

    i believe i am a man not a woman lol
    its their choice to follow the religion
    its their choice to believe its compulsory
    its their choice to do what they want.
    if you believe in something you follow it right through.
    you seem not to understand what is meant by “their choice”
    if you think muslim women dont have a choice how comes i see the face of so many of them.
    Its their choice to follow islam and its their choice to cover their face or dont.

  99. Be Fair

    woman choice.. you have not ever travelled outside of barbados have you?
    have you ever associated any part of your life with muslims?

  100. The veil is my choice

    Assalamu Alykum(Peace be upon you) to my fellow Muslims posting here and Peace be upon you also to all my non muslim bajans bros and sis 🙂
    Big up all ya bajans!!!! let’s keep the peace real!! Respect !

    Anyway on a serious note…. I haven’t read most of the replies here as I’m fully aware that with every thing Islamic related always attract negative and Anti Islamic views.Sadly due to the Islamaphobia that is falsely spreading throughout the world via the media.

    I am a born and bred bajan, Born Muslim woman,whose parents are also born and bred bajans 🙂 We grew up here eating flying fish and cou cou,salt bread and fish cakes man I love mauby !! . I went to school here at Westbury primary school and further went on to secondary school. I have many bajan friends,associates and to be honest I love the bajans,you won’t find people like we have here anywhere in the world. Bajans are one of a kind man,we say hello and good morning/eve to every stranger. You get on a bus and people smile at you,your change drop and people help you to pick it up…..bajans are the only one’s who give way to you on the street lolz…you travel the world and you won’t find nicer people than my bajan bro’s and sis May God bless ya all!!!! There is no place like Barbados “Home sweet Home”.

    We are peaceful,loving society (May God keep it this way always).I see no need for this anti religion and negativity being thrown at a minority of people living here.We the Muslims of this country are Humans just like everyone else here.We are law abiding citizens who face the same struggles that most of you face daily,we all wish for a safe and better life.A life of prosperity and peace.

    To get to my point …..As a Muslim Bajan woman who wear the Niqab ( face covering) I would like to speak out on my behalf in defense of what I CHOOSE to wear.

    Prior to wearing it I was a trendy,fashion conscious teenager.I spent to much money on clothing and makeup.I wanted to fit in with society,but what a fit that was *rolls eyes* it caused me to sacrifice my modesty,my shame.It caused me to expose my beauty to a world of strange men,who just “cat called” me and would say all these disgusting things to me as I walked the street or went about my day.I felt exposed !! Though I dress modestly and wore the headscarf I still got lustful gazes staring back at me.

    Is that freedom ? You tell me !! With men telling a 16 year old teenager that’s innocently walking past,what he’ll do to her in the bedroom :0 Where is the shame and lack of decorum?? an you wanna tell me I’m oppressed cos I choose to cover my body and beauty for the one man I CHOOSED to marry?

    I decided to wear the veil at the age of 19. Thank you very much, but it was out of my OWN CHOICE. Neither was I “married” nor did my family force me to wear it.(the day that i wore it no one knew actually).I was one of the first single girls here in my community to don the niqab at that time.

    I attended many classes and used public transit while wearing the niqab. I drive ,go the beach and take part in many activities with my niqab.I feel my veil enhances my identity instead of hiding it. You may ask how so? The niqab has given me the opportunity to express myself without men, in particular, judging me or treating me based on the way I look. I don’t have to worry about looking good for people who see me walking down the street. I choose to be known for my inner voice, my personality and intellect. In the comfort of my home or private gatherings, I confound to a different dress code. I am happy in my own shoes.

    A woman living here can go outside in a bikini. Just as she can choose to be almost fully naked, it only makes sense that I have the right and I CHOOSE to be almost fully covered.

    Peace !

  101. The veil is my choice

    They are many and I say MANY misconceptions amongst the bajan public regarding Muslims and Islam.

    You never know unless you ask,and the many bajans that stop me on the streets as ask me questions relating to my way of dress,I always take the time to answer.

    No need to read twisted stories that are portrayed in the media,approach the many muslims you see that live here,visit the mosques or the Islamic school and have your questions answered and see what Islam is about.

    Do not generalize the majority by a few bad apples…..if so we’ll all be down right stupid as they are always a bad apple amongst the many good ones.

    These beautiful girls brave the hot sun and came out to clean up the beaches that WE all use. At least acknowledge the good and stop the fuss man….

    The got more trouble gine on bout in bim to worry about than a few covered gals cleaning up a beach …..

  102. The veil is my choice

    One more comment I got and I’m gone 🙂

    The niqab is not a threat. Niqab wearing women do not bite. We are not criminals and there hasn’t been a history of niqabis committing crimes.

    So chill if any straight women on here want to see our face we’ll happily show you 🙂 for the men sorrry look at your own women and keep the gaze there.

  103. The veil is my chocie

    So hilarious :p I posted a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng reply defending my niqab that I wear and BFP don’t publish it …what negativity *sigh*

  104. The veil is my chocie

    If anyone want to hear “about the life of a niqabi” from the mouth of a born and bred Muslim bajan woman just gimme a shout ya!! an will explain and let ya all know that I CHOOSE this way to dress and was not forced !! I am not oppressed and ain’t brainwashed either 🙂 …..

    Niqab= face veil…. Muslim woman = Human not alien :p

    BFP why ya aint publish my long comment eh? ya scared to hear the truth .

  105. The veil is my chocie

    Please delete the last 2 comments above since the first post I typed up was published here after all 🙂

  106. LMAO!.

    Alright person above me^ you talk too much xD
    And as a muslim I can say that wearing Purdah/Veil IS COMPULSORY once every girl reaches the age of puberty. Yes it’s your choice to do what you want but i’m just sayin girls..it is Fardh/compulsory.
    It’s like what the other girl said “Everyone has five fingers, but all five are different”. Some choose to listen, some don’t. Case closed.

  107. Sheba

    Hah!! Way to go Ian lad!!!
    Make the browns and blacks argue and fight, then the cream will
    float to the top.
    Atta boy, old ploy, well used!!!!
    The masses are brainless, ain’t???????????

  108. Bajan

    I am disappointed that my country and homeland of Barbados, to which I pledge allegiance to, whose honour I seek to defend and by my living to do credit to it wherever I go.

    Religion (and beliefs) is something which persons hold dear. It is with this attachment that persons use religion as a tool to justify their wrongdoings or biases or prejudices or hates or other socially divising techniques.

    From my days at school, I can remember hearing that slavery was defended on religion; that the ‘Africans’ were savage because they werent Christian and this was an allowable to do. Even, from the early days of conquering, the Spanish (Bartholeme de las Casas etc) converted the Amerindians to Christianity, thinking this was the right thing to do.
    Then there is also the issue of the Crusades.
    Even the story of Jesus illustrates such religious manipulation with a betrayal by a trusted disciple and crucification by persons of different religious views.

    On the other hand, the Jews were the recipients of the unfortunate onslaught brought on by Adolf Hitler.

    Recently, there is the rampancy of heinous acts of terrorism and mass murder.

    I say all of this to make the points that (1) many of us subscribe to a particular religion; (2) feel strongly about our respective beliefs; and therefore religion can sometimes be used as tool to divide us all.
    Practically and realistically speaking, ALL of us have been put here on this earth; some of us believe that such placement is by a GOD and for a reason (I wont get into that).
    Now, its a fact that many of us have different beliefs (evident in this forum and from various examples throughout time).
    So the question then is: how do we live in a world in which we are placed with persons of different beliefs?
    It is not for us to judge whose belief is right or wrong; we may believe strongly that our belief is the best and right one (and we should because we should not believe in something that we do not ‘believe’ in). Judging is, and as those of us who subsribe to a religion would say, is for a GOD, because he is the judger, he is the forgiving, the merciful, etc. Therefore, in that regard if someone was to judge the religion of another, he would in essence be assuming the position of the Diety in which he believes and this would go beyond the realms of his religious ideology!

    Now, as far as I know neither Islam nor Christianity nor any other established religion promotes violence and inequity so as to justify crusades or terrorisms or slavery of any kind. As far as I am aware Islam forbids suicide and places an emphasis on retribution stressing that on the day of reckoning, the Muslim God will account for all wrongdoings by fellow men, and a man with good deeds may find himself losing it all and taking on the bad deeds of a person he has wronged without forgiveness. Christianity as well promotes ‘loving thy neighbour’ and forgiveness.

    Now, all religions seek to spread, and round up followers. There are Christian missionaries, Muslim missionaries, etc and their goals is to spread what they believe in. I see nothing wrong with persons wanting to save the souls of others- so long as it is done respectfully and without force or duress or intimidation or trickery or deception or through illegal or illgotten methods.

    THIS article illustrates the existence of Muslims in a society placed on this beautiful rock of paradise I (we) call home. We didnt create ourselves, and Muslims, just like other religions can form part of our society. The muslims here are in effect contributing positively to our Barbados, and it bewilders me as to why then so much negative feelings and ventiments are being used here.

    As an alternative, would you prefer to send all Muslims to the Middle East; and while you are doing that send all Jews to Israel; and designate a place for people of different religions; thereby splitting the world and creating worldwide religious apartheid?

    Or do you prefer to eradicate all Muslims from the face of this Earth because your religion or beliefs tell you so (sounds familiar)? And while you ‘re at, you may also eradicate persons of beliefs and views that you do not believe in? Thereby creating anarchy; oppression; and restriction on freedom of religion- which is in effect adverse to our very Constitution; and is complete demolition of the very things our forefathers such as the Honourable Errol Barrow fought for?

    How about, we just live together as a society, acknowledging our differences and living together to build our society; all the while respecting the laws of our land; and the rule of law!
    Barbados is a paradise to me; let us not allow it to be filled with the demons of division and segregation…

  109. WTF?

    Bajan says “It is not for us to judge whose belief is right or wrong; we may believe strongly that our belief is the best and right one (and we should because we should not believe in something that we do not ‘believe’ in).”

    I agree. I don’t judge the man in the story I post below. I think they should let him go and not charge him with anything because what he did was based upon his beliefs and as Bajan says: IT IS NOT FOR US TO JUDGE.

    I say, let the Muslim men beat their wives because we shouldn’t judge.

    Here is the man I don’t want to judge for his religious beliefs:

    “He said it: Imam in Germany recites Qur’an’s wife-beating verse while beating wife

    Yes, Qur’an 4:34 really does say “beat them.” Perhaps if Muslim apologists — professional and amateur — and spokespeople spent less time trying to convince Western audiences that the Qur’an doesn’t really quite say what it says, and focused that same level of effort instead on stopping their coreligionists’ alleged “misunderstandings” (including imams) and “cultural” misconduct, there would be fewer stories like this for us to so rudely report on.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335024/Muslim-imam-Sheikh-Adam-lectures-non-violence-arrested-wife-beating.html

    Muslim imam who lectures on non-violence in Germany is arrested for beating up his wife

    A Muslim imam who lectures on non-violence and advises the German government on interfaith issues has been arrested in Germany for beating up his wife.

    Sheikh Abu Adam, 40, is now on remand in Munich while his wife, 31, is being guarded by police.

    She was allegedly assaulted so badly that she suffered a broken nose and shoulder and numerous cuts and bruises.

    Media reports claimed the woman, who has borne one of his ten children, wanted to live a more ‘western’ lifestyle and was allegedly attacked after telling her husband.

    The police said they received a call from a lawyer hired by the victim.
    Adam is alleged to have shouted a verse from the Koran at his wife as he beat her.

    The line said: ‘Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them.

    ‘As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.’

    The imam is said to have refused to let police officers into his home, but they forced their way past him because they feared the woman’s life was in danger.

    Sheikh Adam is the Egyptian imam of the Darul Quran Mosque in Munich.
    He is facing charges of causing grievous bodily harm and could face a jail term if convicted.

    A week ago, he held a lecture at the city’s Catholic University entitled ‘An Islam which distances itself from violence’.

    He also spoke at a recent conference called ‘meeting Islam in Europe’ and met German justice Sabine Leutheusser Schnarrenberger there.

    Adam was assigned bodyguards on the outside because of his calls for Muslims to reject radical Islam. He is also being guarded while on remand from racist prisoners.

  110. Sheba

    Maybe the imam and the Pastor should meet Chris Brown…rofl!

    Former Pastor Arrested for Brutally Beating his Wife While Wearing a ‘Be Like Jesus’ T-Shirt.
    A former pastor in Floyd County is arrested and charged with assault in what detectives call one of the worse cases of domestic violence they have seen.
    37 year old Alonzo Bradley is accused of torturing his wife for years.
    Wednesday afternoon Bradley’s case was waived to a grand jury.
    Police and domestic violence shelter directors say this case is an example of domestic violence increasing in the big sandy region.
    In the past four years, domestic violence cases nearly doubled in this area.
    37 year old Alonzo Bradley was arrested wearing a “Be Like Jesus” t-shirt.
    Police say he used to be the pastor at the Freedom Pentecostal Church on Conley Fork in Floyd County; but detectives say behind closed doors he tortured his wife for a decade.
    “It’s just a horrendous case. It’s one of the worst assaults we’ve seen on a woman in a long time. Sadistic type injuries to this woman of beating with implements and using instruments to actually burn her with and so forth, so it’s just a terrible situation,” trooper Mike Goble said.

    The woman is now in a safe place.

    Bradley’s attorney did not want to comment.

    This is just one of the hundreds of domestic violence cases in the Big Sandy Region.

    Statistics from the Kentucky Domestic Violence Association show the region is one of the only places in Eastern Kentucky where cases have increased every year since 2006.

    The Sandy Valley Abuse Shelter went from helping 93 people in ’06 to 177 in 2009.

    “I think the numbers have increased, especially with the economy, you know, things have been worse and our numbers have increased,” Elizabeth Fitch, Sandy Valley Abuse Center Program Coordinator.

    Police say the case involving the former pastor shows alleged abuse is happening in all walks of life.

    “It occurs in the richest of families to the very poorest of families,” Trooper Goble said.

    “It’s all about power and control, it has nothing to do with your status in the community,” Elizabeth Fitch said.

    Bradley is being held on a 250-thousand dollar bond. Police say more charges are pending.

    http://blackchristiannews.com/news/2010/03/former-pastor-arrested-for-brutally-beating-his-wife-with-a-be-like-jesus-t-shirt-on.html

  111. No Equivalency

    Sheba is using the false equivalency argument that ignores the direction in the Koran for men to beat their wives under the listed conditions. No such direction exists in the Bible, nor do Christian pastors lecture on the methods of how to beat your wife as is prevalent in Muslim religious literature and television programming.

    Sheba also ignores the “women as property” concept and reality that is propagated by the Koran and widely practiced in the most devout Muslim countries.

  112. Stop squabbling over religions

    Numbers 5:27

    “When he has made her drink the water, then it shall come about, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, that the water which brings a curse will go into her and cause bitterness, and her abdomen will swell and her thigh will waste away, and the woman will become a curse among her people. But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, she will then be free and conceive children. ”

    This guilt is to be borne by WOMAN; nothing about man; Numbers 5;29 and 5:31.

    Deutoronomy 21:13- 22:21
    Woman to be stoned to death if not a Virgin; otherwise to be forced unto rejecting (hating) husband in marriage

    QURAN 4:34

    “Men are (meant to be righteous and kind) guardians of women because God has favored some more than others and because they (i.e. men) spend out of their wealth. (In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband). As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first), (next) separate them in beds (and last) beat them. But if they obey you, then seek nothing against them. Behold, God is most high and great.

  113. abdulwalee

    I’d like all interested parties to listen to this excellent lecture on Muslim Women
    http://www.troid.ca/index.php/women/the-muslim-woman/1521-are-muslim-women-second-class-citizens

  114. Just Ride

    I have no problem with Muslims so dont think ill of my comment, but i would like to know on the topic of security like IDs, Passports etc. if you cover your faces how can we ensure your identity. Is it wrong for countries to ask for the veil to go? If all of us have to do it why not you?

  115. Rastaman

    Excuse me,If you cannot live by the laws of Barbados ,then DO NOT come >

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  117. Anonymous

    Would everyone just grab a cold Banks, or a shot of Mount Gay, and relax..
    And if hungry, eat a juicy pork cutter .