Two Barbadians arrested in mass murder fire.

 

 

 

Updated: September 3, 2012

The end result for the Campus Trendz fire deaths turned out pretty much like we predicted two years ago: murder charge, guilty plea to manslaughter – but no real changes at all.

Bajan daughters and sons still work in downtown death traps with no way out, we still don’t have a Building Code as law and the equipment deficiencies at the Fire Service mean that if Campus Trendz happened again today, the same brave crying raging men who had to use manual sledge hammers to beat through the brick behind Campus Trendz would still be using manual sledge hammers – because it’s all they have.

UPDATED: September 13, 2010 – Murder Charges laid, accused named

Jamar Dewayne Orlando Bynoe, 19, Headley’s Land, Bank Hall (left)

Renaldo Anderson Alleyne, 21, Prescod Bottom, Hindsbury Road. (right)

Both young men are charged with the Murder of six young women at Campus Trendz, wounding with intent and arson in relation to the same happening. (Photos of accused courtesy of Barbados Today unless we hear from them otherwise)

Also charged with earlier petrol bombing of Chicken Galore

Bynoe and Alleyne are charged with aggravated burglary and arson at Chicken Galore at Bank Hall, St Michael, on August 13, 2010 three weeks before the September 3rd Campus Trendz murders.

Here is our original story published September 11, 2010 at 11:33pm Bridgetown time…

Barbados is still a small island with no place to run

Reports on radio and on the website of The Nation indicate that two men from Barbados are “assisting the police with their investigations” as of Saturday afternoon.

If we had to lay a bet on how this came about, we’d say that someone knew something and made a phone call that broke the case. A name, often given anonymously, is all it takes. That’s just our speculation at this point, but as we’ve said before, Barbados is a small island and smaller still if a normal criminal* is on the run after committing a horrific crime. That’s one of the things that helps to make this island relatively safe and much safer than many other countries.

If the two under arrest are the ones who robbed, chopped and then set the Campus Trendz shop on fire, their capture is some small comfort to the families of the six victims and the community – but really just one of the many steps that should happen in the coming months and years.

That’s “many steps that should happen”, but you know how it is here and so do we.

Our predictions for the Campus Trendz murder case…

The first concern now is the fear and hope by every rational person in Barbados that our under-funded, under-trained, under-staffed and less-than-professional police force won’t blow the case (or haven’t already) through mishandling of evidence, lack of professional resources or knowledge – or even (Lord help us) amateurish Keystone Cops actions. That’s always a worry.

“There will be no real inquiry into the other factors that set the stage for six young women to burn to death in the rear of what should have been a safe workplace.”

The next concern is that the public will never be told the truth about the many factors that led to the deaths of our relatives, friends and neighbours. There will be a “sub-justice” clamp on any real facts by the news media so as not to taint the criminal trial of the two accused and that is understandable and normal to an extent.

Sadly though, what is also “normal” (as most thinking Barbadians know) is that after the trial and sentencing, there will be no real inquiry into the other factors that set the stage for six young women to burn to death in the rear of what should have been a safe workplace.

Time works in favour of those who want a nice quiet resolution that focuses entirely on the evil actions of two “youths” as they will probably be called in the press to prepare the public for a soft approach. Remember that only a few months ago the Barbados Advocate called the 25 year old career criminal who murdered Canadian tourist Teresa “Terry” Schwarzfeld a “youth” to prepare us for a plea bargain? (See Murderous 25 year old career criminal described as “Youth”)

There will be lots of political posturing and promises (there already have been), but in three or four years no changes will have taken place.  The victims will have died for nothing and the factors that resulted in their deaths will remain – waiting for the next confluence of circumstance to cause more preventable deaths.

Remember the Arch Cot cave-in deaths of a whole family as they slept over three years ago? Remember the promises for changes, implementation and enforcement of a building code, mapping of caves and full answers about who was responsible and how the deaths happened? Remember all that?

So here’s our predictions for the Campus Trendz robbery and murders of six young women.

1/ Charges laid – probably murder, maybe manslaughter but we’re betting murder for at least one of the accused, based upon turning one against the other if they didn’t both throw petrol bombs.

2/ No trial. After a couple of years, a plea bargain down to Manslaughter, backed up by a public relations campaign by the Director of Public Prosecutions and the Attorney General about why the decision was made etc. Easier for the government to handle the fallout years later than to have a public trial where the authorities lose control.

During a trial the defense lawyers will undoubtedly claim that the accused didn’t mean to kill anyone but set the fire to prevent someone following them – thinking that the girls would make it out the back fire exit. That would raise many of the issues that people want to see raised at an inquest and the authorities don’t want that. Bad for them, bad for the country’s tourism business where so much is based upon image and not reality. Same anywhere, really.

3/ Public Inquest? Not a chance. Not going to happen. No way.

The most common response and ‘solution’ to incidents of mass death in Barbados – whether caused by crime, neglect or lack of proper standards – continues to be political promises for future change made to a population that is conditioned to expect and accept low standards and low performance.

Notes

* Our reference to a “normal criminal” being easy to catch on this island is in contrast to, for instance, a criminal who conducts a professional assassination such as the murder of retired Barbados Immigration Chief and former Assistant Superintendent of Police Kenrick Hutson at his home. That crime remains unsolved.

Photo credit – The Nation: Two suspects nabbed in Tudor Street blaze

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79 responses to “Two Barbadians arrested in mass murder fire.

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  3. whistling frog

    Ya All wanna know what wil happen,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Here lend an ear,,,,,,,If there is really two persons apprehended,,,then they will be in CUSTODY,,,and a WHOLE LOT OF LAWYERS WHO SEEK ,”OPPORTUNITY”, will JUMP,BOUNCE,RICCHOCHET,,,and Eagerly Seek to DEFEND them to their UTMOST RIGHTS,,,,,All the Time Mentally aware of (1)RECOGNITION and(2) What follows $$$$$$$$$……….MEANWHILE,the POOR DECEASED VICTIMS WHO HAVE have unfortunately been in the Wrong Place at the Wrong Time,,,Will HAVE NO ONE TO EAGERLY(IN THE SAME WAY) DEFEND THEIR RIGHTS GIVEN TO THEM BY BEING THE SAME CITIZEN OF BARBADOS!!!!!!!!!!!!UNLESS OF COURSE SOME SAMARITAN LAWYER OR LAWYERS TAKE UP THE MANTLE AND SAY “JUSTICE HERE AND IMMEDIATE JUSTICE IS MORE THAN A NECCESSIATY IN THIS CAUSE”,,,,,,,AND THEN IF THE JURY AND JUDGE ARE TOGETHER AS ONE ,THEN THE LAWS THAT ARE IN OUR BOOKS WILL,AND WILL BE UPHOLDED!!!!!!!

  4. Need glasses

    whistling frog I agree with majority of your rant but please turn off the caps because it makes it hard to read and lots of peoples will not read what you write because of that.

  5. What will they think of next

    Someone over at BU is saying that one or both of the men are from Headleys Land in Bank Hall. We remember the robbery and firebombing at Chicken Galore which is just a stone’s throw away from Headley’s Land Bank Hall.

  6. John

    Great article BFP & sadly true (I agree with Need Glasses too)

    Hind Sight is great when you don’t know there’s a problem to start with. But not in this case, one exit buildings have been allowed for years & are still being built (Worthing next to Chicken Barn).

    Also agree when charges happen, plea bargain down to manslaugter & equivalent to 10 yrs. Just to get a quick conviction.

    With regard to your last point, he was the third person to be found dead in a similar manner – any link?

  7. nevermind Kurt

    Brilliant article BFP.

    For the government it’s all about spin from here on. Keep the spotlight on the accused and off the failings that ultimately killed the women.

  8. West Side Davie

    It is sad but true that the focus of the authorities will be on how to handle the prosecution for political needs instead of the higher goal of delivering justice.

    The authorities need to remember that in seeking an outcome to minimize the damage to our reputation, they weaken the very foundations of our country. Those foundations have served us well but we’re losing them and our reputation.

    Where do we find leaders who will do what is right instead of trying to manipulate the system to produce a result that they think is best? (Best for whom? is the question)

  9. Responder

    Very nice West Side Davie

  10. xkcd

    @ whistling frog
    Could you type any more annoying. I tried to read what you said twice, and had stop.

    What i don’t get, is firemen not wanting to risk their lives to save others…..I’m mean, isn’t that what they are paid to do ? IF all they do is out the coals of a burnt down building, then anyone can do that…What if the central bank starts to burn ?*knock on wood*

  11. John

    John
    September 12, 2010 at 4:55 am
    Great article BFP & sadly true (I agree with Need Glasses too)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Different John!!

  12. Ugh

    I am really disturbed by the trend of trying to classify Arch Cot and the deaths of these young ladies as having no commonalities. Does that make sense? In the end of the day on both I see negligence on the part of the relevant agencies.

  13. HAHA

    since when are the Barbados Police unprofessional now?

  14. Facts

    We need to give the police praise.

    By the way, we have a very professonal Force.

    Most murder cases are solved.

    Hats off the the RBPF.

  15. south coast

    Well done RBPF

  16. Tired of BFP

    Don’t you know that plea bargaining is not a feature of our legal system. This is not Canada or the United States.

    What a load of hogwash.

    Agree we need to urge the politicians to bring the building code onto the statute books, but I am soooo tired of BFP pulling down everything about Barbados. Don’t know why you all ever came here really?

  17. Let’s hope the police have the ‘correct’ two and that this isn’t another of their usual ’round-up’ of Tom, Dick and Harry.

  18. Congratulations?

    The “well done RBPF” is premature. Did one of the accused turn himself in with a lawyer? Did someone place a call naming a suspect? That’s hardly grounds for praise for the RBPF. If the two in custody are the same two that set the chicken shop ablaze, we should be asking why didn’t the police catch them before they went on to murder those six women.

    Too early for praise and the praise that has been given is knee-jerk, ill-thought and will perhaps later be seen as completely inappropriate.

  19. Facts

    I agree Cherrylang; I do hope the two they have are the perpetrators. If they don’t, this means that there are 2 murderers out there who will do it again (that’s why we need the death penalty).

    However, if we do have the correct ones – please give the police their dues.

  20. Thought

    I understand that there may have been outside assistance by foreign investigators in this case and they may have been responsible for capturing these two. Has anyone else heard of this?

    I am very interested to hear the statement that is to be released by police.

  21. 38

    Well done RBPF …what?
    As usual they waited for info to come to them, the way it usually works
    and then they act.
    Normal sleuthing procedure in Bim.
    Waiting for info to come in

  22. J

    Dear BFP:

    I am sure that you know that Canada does not have death penalty and has not executed anyone since 1948, and yet Canada’s murder rate is significantly lower than Barbados’

    How do you account for this?

  23. Sayed

    man you people continually show off your lack of ‘know’ and spew any nonsense that comes to your mind simply because you do not know.

    Yes the police sat back and waited in a room for calls.

    The average Barbadian really is a stupid unintelligent person, and incapable of serious discourse.

  24. Belcart

    To Sayed

    Who is the average Barbadian? If what you are saying is correct that means that a very large percentage of the population is unintelligent. I am surprised that we are still around!!

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  26. Anonymous

    Those six beautiful young ladies died for nothing… I don’t need to wait 3 or 4 years to see that. They died because those guys who had the same educational opportunities as every other Barbadian child, chose to do evil. They had the chance to go to school, get a good primary, secondary and tertiary education. And now my hard earned taxes and the taxes of their victims’ families will support their evil, sorry and pathetic behinds when they get to Dodds for many years to come.

  27. Politically Tired

    I am real glad they got these two, (like most people I hope they are the correct two).
    I heard they were seen by a member of the public who thought they resembled the photo & photo-fit released to the public, & he/she contacted the police who surrounded the house etc etc & found them with more of these ‘bombs’ .
    If they are found guilty I really hope they hang, if they don’t I feel there will be riots & they won’t last long in jail anyway.

  28. TownRats!

    Kids. 19 and 21.
    Both Bajan, not outsiders as we first thought.

    What sort of upbringing and education did these kids have/not-have?
    What made them so? Violent “action” movies?
    Video games in the Mall?

    Where did they go to school?
    With who? with your kids?

    6 charges of murder, ea. man! – Well done fellas!

    Before they are hung, though
    psychoanalysis of these two might teach us much
    about how to avoid creation of anti-social monsters
    for a better Barbadian future.

  29. Bajan public

    The police force has done it again!

    Great job fellas.

    Nuff respect

  30. Patience

    I am thankful that we have the two suspects in custody and my concern now turns to the other shoe that Must be dropped…six times.

    I pray for the families and by extension my country as we must now have multiple funeral services…

    I dont want us to become numb or accustomed to this…ever!!

  31. Sayed

    well, BFP calls the police force unprofessional.

    Thousands of cases and investigations go on and are on going. Sometimes you hear about corrupt officers and sometimes officers act unprofessional, it does not make the entire force and staff unprofessional or inept.

    If that were the case, with the kind of criminals we have in our society already, we would be worst than T&T Guyana and Jamaica.

    The fact that we are not lends proof to the fact that policing standards are still intact in Barbados, but can only so much against the back drop of the decay of mandatory social values.

    I thought better of BFP, and thought that they were more than just an angry mob on a street corner yacking off without facts.

  32. RRRicky

    Sayed, you should read the list at this article:

    https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/dear-commissioner-dottin-about-those-internet-rumours-of-barbados-police-corruption-and-incompetence…/

    and then say the RBPF is up to professional standards.

    The worst incident in my opinion is when the police officers didn’t know the law well enough to enter a gated community to answer a woman’s call for help. It wasn’t only the first officers responding to the call, it was a series of higher ups for four days that stood by and did nothing. I cannot think of a better illustration of unprofessional buffoonery than that.

  33. John

    I may be in a minority here but the girls died because there was no fire exit & only one exit. This the real crime. it was still a horrendous death but cannot be laid only at the feet of the two charged. Charges have to be laid at the authorities responsible for allowing these buildings to operate – for years – & are still being built!!!!

    Unless intent can be proved, they should be charged with manslaughter not murder.

    Deepest sympathies to all those affected.

  34. WSD

    John is right that the authorities (and don’t forget about the landlord and the business owner if they are not the same) who let the business operate as a firetrap. They are criminals too, but I don’t believe it takes away from the murder charge. That is a legal question for the jury and court, but don’t expect to see any charges laid about the no fire exit.

    Is there an actual law that was broken about the no fire exit? Can anyone answer that please?

  35. John

    John
    September 14, 2010 at 4:18 am
    I may be in a minority here but the girls died because there was no fire exit & only one exit. This the real crime. it was still a horrendous death but cannot be laid only at the feet of the two charged. Charges have to be laid at the authorities responsible for allowing these buildings to operate – for years – & are still being built!!!!

    Unless intent can be proved, they should be charged with manslaughter not murder.

    Deepest sympathies to all those affected.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Again …. a different John!!

    Tricky when there are two and they have different view points.

    This John’s feeling is if the perpetrators arrived at the scene with a petrol bomb, they intended to do what they did.

    Murder it is.

    The girls are dead because of the fire, not because of the lack of the fire exit.

    ….. however, I am not for the death penalty.

    Used to be on the fence where this was concerned.

    The system has serious flaws and I would not like to be the judge who condemns them to death based on what is presented to me.

    How can I expect it of someone else?

    Life imprisonment leaves the way open for the right thing to happen later, if indeed the wrong thing happened in their trial.

    By the other John’s argument, if the perpetrators did not mean to kill the girls or whoever was there (commit murder) they would have gone earlier and dug an exit so they could escape the fire.

    The perpetrators committed the real crime.

    However, it also exposed the flaws which exist in the system and speak volumes to the shabby attitudes towards life and limb in Barbados.

    … and yes, the owners and authorities are responsible for the lack of fire exits.

    … and yes, this crime took place on the other side of the road from the main guard ……. an example of how bold the criminals have become in Barbados.

    Two crimes exist.

    One took place the night the girls died and the other, days, months, years before that fateful night.

    Both require a trial, in one case, with known perpetrators.

    On the brighter side, it was a tonic to witness the observance of the moments of silence on Friday.

    I would like to think the observance was also for Barbados and the abhorrence of the depths to which it has slid.

    In the midst of horror there is always hope ….. learnt that from Colin Hudson.

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  37. BFP

    Hello John and John,

    Can you fellows please sort it out yourselves please? We can’t because IP numbers keep switching etc.

    One John has been coming here for years and it seems unfair that he would have to change his handle at this point. Can the new John please add something to his name to differentiate himself from the old John?

    Thanks!

    Robert

  38. Whip Lash

    Just 3 brief comments…

    1) I thought the Commissioner was quite articulate and lucid at the press conference. Quite unlike so may other Govt spokespeople and even politicians who can hardly express themselves .

    2) Those ‘journalists’ who asked questions… most of them… are they primary school students? One of them asked the Commissioner if all the other unsolved cases would be pursued with the same alacrity. The Commissioner asked to give a specific case… the ‘journalist’ could not give a single one. ? ? ?

    3) The Commissioner is observing the trend of criminality has it’s roots in societal behavior and goings on…. from the time BDS became ‘independent’ and the ‘colonial masters’ were replaced by locals… there was an immediate drop in discipline and accountability. Nowadays, in the public service and elsewhere — there is almost none.

    We have a situation where it seems you can do what you want… but you don’t get called to account. Unless it something like — didn’t renew your driving licence — that sort of thing.

    Then there is the ‘official’ stamp given to lewd behavior in public (kadoument;) the fact that everything undertaken – lectures, sports programs, various projects and so on … are all WELL DONE, all the violence and immorality you see on TV daily… and on and on. All this impacts on the minds of the public — most of whom seem incapable of thinking for themselves…

    Should I continue the distribe ?

    Will there be a turn around any time soon? I’d like to hear ‘members of the BFP household! ! ! !’ on this… Thank you

  39. Facts

    DEATH PENALTY

    There are those who infer that the death penalty would not reduce murder. Where are your stats. to justify?

    In anycase, the death penalty is the punishment for the type of crime perpetrated -Life for life!

    Please be adivised that in places where the death penalty is strictly inforced, the murder rate is extremely low. For example: Sinapore, China, etc.
    So how can one say that capital punishment is not a deterrent to murder?

  40. Sayed

    Ricky I have seen that ‘list’.

    Again it is full of implied and inherited facts. After making the trip through probably several thousand mouths with things being added and subtracted, nothing in that list is concrete except for the basic facts.

    Let’s take Vaughn for example, the only fact there is that he was charged. The reason for the discontinuing of the charge may have come about as a result of

    1) politics: someone high in politics may have made it impossible for further prosecution.

    2) free mason lodge connections. Don’t say it doesn’t happen because it does. Often people connected with lodges or politicians escape prosecution on many things, or even thorough investigation.

    Again most of the things listed in that compilation is based on serious spin either intended or intended by hundreds of different individuals.

    And the reason why BFP could never be a professional news paper is because these are the sort of things you cannot print without hard facts.

    Otherwise it’s all just libel.

    BFP does have a part to play in that it may expose certain things from time to time. But BFP can never ever get to the true cause of the result of lack of result of any of these stories.

    And in the end BFP is just another web blog which users should read and not be influenced 100 % by it either way. To do so is dangerous and irresponsible.

    It would also show persons will believe almost anything they read, especially when they do not have cause to believe otherwise.

  41. Facts

    @Whiplash,

    I think the “drop in discipline” and accepted established societal values as a whole is related to the Western world’s changes in the value system.
    At the forefront would be Uncle Sam.

    Blaming independence from Britain as the root of our problems, I think is farfetched imaginative thinking.
    Look at Britain; she’s worst!

  42. Sayed

    Ricky again, reading further heh….

    the gated community situation. Imagine you are a police officer, who one day wishes to be promoted. In small Barbados, with one police force and no others to join, you try your best not to offend people.

    Now imagine offending a social elite. A lodge elite, a government elite, by hoping over that gate and barging into his house. Kiss your ‘career’ bye bye.

    Now I agree it shouldn’t be like that, but it is and there’s nothing anyone will ever be able to do about it.

    So you have to censure out society, our government and our prevalent nepotism BEFORE you censure the police for that action. or police officer as the case may be.

    think about it. nepotism is dangerous and we’ll never be rid of it.

  43. Sayed

    To respond to the BFP querying about how the trial will run.

    A manslaughter guilty plea might be better in everyone’s interest.

    1) where in Barbados could they get a fair trial?
    2) unless you put persons who cannot hear or see on the jury and I am sure even they know what is going on with this case.
    3) the law in Barbados regards to murder is very weak, its still under common law. It is difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. You cannot plead guilty to murder, there must be a trial, but you can plead guilty to manslaughter and the maximum penalty is life in prison.

    I will not go into the discussion of whether they deserve a fair trial and all that nonsense, I am trying as best as possible to show you an objective view.

    Instead of throwing out an opinionated impassioned and flawed flurry of words inflamed with anger and lacking knowledge of police happenings. We are all educated and we are all capable of better thinking, but too often we let our emotions rule us and lash out, and it’s a syndrome and it’s ordinary and common, and someone must be lashed. Usually it is the police.

    Section 3 subsection 1 of the offences against the person act has this to say about murder.

    Where a person kills another in the course or furtherance of some other offence, the killing shall not amount to murder unless done with the same malice aforethought, express or implied, as is required for a klling to amount to murder when not done in the course or furtherance of another offence.

    That is to say, that if you kill someone while robbing them, you will not be guilty of murder, unless all the conditions to prove murder are present, as with a case of murder itself.

    the points to prove murder are (and this is from memory)

    any person of with sound memory at the age of discretion who unlawfully kills another under the queens peace with malice aforethought expressed or implied and death occurring within a year and a day.

    so break down
    points needed to prove
    sound memory (i.e. are you competent)
    age of discretion (answerable to law age in Barbados is 11)
    unlawful kill (some killings can be lawful i.e. self defense)
    queens peace (meaning not at a time of war)
    malice aforethought expressed or implied ( meaning did you plan it before hand, either in the way you committed or not.)
    death occurring within a year and a day. so if you die two years from now I can’t have murdered you 🙂

    So examining the case at hand. Was their intent to rob or kill? They robbed the store. They and their lawyers will argue that they only went their to rob the store. The presence of an incendiary device does not imply intent to murder, since incendiary devices are made to burn, therefore arson.

    Therefore as you can see under our laws it is extremely difficult to prove murder. That is why in most murder cases in Barbados, the persons plead guilty or get found guilty of manslaughter.

    it is not the polices’ fault. It is a lack of proper legislation. We are using a common law interpretation of murder from who knows how long ago.

    was this helpful at all?

  44. Knight of the Long Knives

    Very well said and illuminating Sayed. Thank you!

  45. North star

    I just need to get an opinion on a situation i encountered recently. My best friend has been having problems with her ex boyfriend for years, she has complained to the police on several occasions, she came home and found him in her house, she even had to go to a lawyer in order for him to return a house key.

    One night, he called her cell and she quickly brushed him off (as usual) as she was entertaining a male friend. She left the male friend in the front house to go and put some laundry in the machine which is in the yard area just outside her backdoor. Upon opening the back door her ex boyfriend pushes her away and storms inside the house damages a piece of furniture and has an altercation with the male friend she was entertaining to the point that he had to seek medical attention. The police were summoned and can you believe the police who arrived said he remembers coming to the house some years before and also informed her that the ex boyfriend cannot be charged with trespassing, only the male can charge the ex with assault!!!

    Just wanted to hear your valuable opinions

  46. Sayed

    Opinions are worth nothing in this case. The law and its application are what is worth anything. I need to get one of these word press things and start giving people free advice.

    Going by the facts you have which are sketchy at best, I can apply this to that situation.

    He can be charged with trespassing, I do not even have to quote the trespass to property reform act.
    She can give a statement.

    Assuming she owns/rents the house, and he is not accustomed to coming there. Facts sketchy, story sounds odd, why does he still have her number? Do they have children together? Etc etc, your friend might not even give YOU the full facts because she might be encouraging the boyfriends behavior. But that is pure speculation on my part, but it does sound funny.

    Secondly he could even be charged for burglary.

    Watch:

    Section 24 subsection 1 and 2 of the theft act

    burglary:

    any person who:

    enters any building as a trespasser with intent to commit an offence or

    having entered any building as a trespasser
    subsection 2 clause a:

    inflicts any bodily harm on any person in the building (the boyfriend)

    clause e: unlawfully damages or destroys the building or anything in the building.

    guilty of burglary.

    So the police have many options. Trespess or burglary depending on any aggravating factors as mentioned above.

  47. J

    I was surprised to see the statement from John, because the John who is usually on here is generally a sensible person even if I do not always agree with him.

    Now I see that the old John has identified his views and I am thankful.

    New Johnn please find a name for yourself.

  48. J

    Don’t ever pay a lawyer to ask anybody to return a key. They may have made copies of the key, and where are you then?

    Call a locksmith or a carpenter to change the lock. They are cheaper, more effective and more deserving than lawyers for this task.

    In fact whenever you change boyfriend or husband you should call the locksmith.

  49. Sayed

    hey, since we are derailing this present discussion I have made a wordpress blog for people who want advice.

    Advice on legal or other troubling matters concerning the law.

    No details of you or anyone is needed, just brief facts about your situation.

    What qualifies me to help? I am an experienced police officer, with a love for the community and a wish to assit people in need of help and thereby improve the image of the force in the process by helping this growing online community. And show you there is lots to be proud of with the Barbados Police.

    I do not think that giving free advice to people would be anything anyone in the force would frown on. This is just simply a different medium. People call the station for advice all the time, but giving good in depth advice can take a lot of time and often there are more pressing matters.

    Plus the advice will remain on the site for all to see for those who might have a similar situation.

    oh the site is

    http://advisorsayed.wordpress.com

  50. Sayed

    I will be giving on advice on what the law says, I will NOT be telling you what to do or what action to take or not to take as the case may be.

    Look at this service as your own personal law library.

  51. @ Whip Lash – Having been present… I too was surprised at the question over “unsolved’s” without substantiation, which is why I cited Mary Holland of May 2001 as an immediate example, having toured that crime scene directly a decade ago. This elicited info from Commissioner Dottin on their solving rate and what Cold Case appears to be doing at the moment.

  52. mac

    I am the John that is probably in a minority but now I am mac, I hope this helps BFP, as I don’t know whether I am the old or the new!!! Hope it’s clearer for all concerned too.

    I agree with Sayed re Where in Barbados will they get a fair trial as currently it is very unlikely.

    As for gated communities he says it’s the way it is & what can you do (domestic violence etc) The police are there to protect or arrest as appropriate & nowhere should be off-limits. Barbados is too small to have no-go zones. The COP should be strong enough to insist the law is upheld every where & for everyone regardless of intimidation

  53. Whip Lash

    Facts…. It is a FACT that when the ‘colonial masters’ left our shores a steady decline in discipline and accountability began. This has nothing to do with any drop of societal values taking place in the Western world.

    Also I did not blame independence from Britain as being the root (or cause) of our problems, the slide simply began then.

    And the state of affairs presently existing in Britain and over by Uncle Sam is no excuse for our waywardness.

  54. reality check

    Sayed

    Thank-you for your reasoned perspective as well as your practical legal blog library resource. This helps all Barbadians get a handle on the right questions, issues and possible outcomes.

    As to government changing legislation to streamline new realities and matters that should have been changed years ago, I am not holding my breath. Barbados has been producing molasses for almost 400 years now.

  55. JG

    Because of some lazy, good-for-nothing criminals in this otherwise beautiful island, I have to live in a house covered in burglar bars. If someone comes in to my home, robs me and throws in an incendiary device – killing me (because I have no way to escape), should my family be the ones responsible for my death????? Come on….how can you blame the landlord? I think the death penalty is far to kind for these two. I say sentence them to life (and I mean LIFE) in prison with HARD LABOUR from dawn till dusk. How many of these lazy men will risk having to spend their life working?

  56. Rumboy

    Reading all the above and most of which is obviously written with more emotion than common sense, the question that I still ask myself is why. Two young men, what would or did lead them to commit a crime like this. Unbelievable.

  57. I wanted to see their faces like any one else but definitely not on the front page

    Not On My Front Page

    No! No! Please no, no, don’t tell me
    Our front page besmeared with the doers of such iniquity
    Their faces should appear only where they belong

    On the crimes’ p ages for doing such a hideous wrong
    Nabbed by the Strong Arm of the law, Dottin got his “boys!”

    Make the front page tell the story of the thing the Nation enjoys
    Yard fowls behind the diabolical act to be charge’

    Folk can rest now the killers no longer at large
    Ruffians snared and will now face
    Our laws toughest arms, police end their chase!
    No! No! Please no, no don’t give place of esteem
    The front page could do without the likes of this evil team

    Put their faces way back in the crimes’ page
    And don’t give any spotlight to this garbage
    Give us the prestige of a Nation getting rid of the no good
    Effective cooperation to frown on evils and show the Pride Of Nationhood

  58. I In Town Long

    Although I will have to double check, I am sure that store has 2 doors at the entrance. Apparently I heard that since it was near closing time (around 7:00pm) one of the doors were closed . That’s what I heard .Dont know if others heard the same thing.
    If they have to implement fire exits, 90% of all small businesses in town will have to shut down.

  59. bajan

    @Sayed, I for one will make full use of the information produced by your wordpress blog. I suspect very useful informative will be found there.

  60. J

    The store has/had 2 doors, both at the front.

  61. John

    I see the charges laid include six counts of murder.

  62. Sayed

    @bajan

    if people post.

    I guess a little word has to spread around here first 🙂

  63. TheNickster

    People talk about fire exits, what about fire extinguishers? the companies I have worked with were compelled to have extinguishers installed every ten feet or so, if they had access to extinguishers some or all of them might have survived. Yes the guys killed them by causing the act but even if the act never occurred that is still a glaring problem.

    As for “Whip Lash”s desire to return to the good old days of colonial “leadership”, yea things were real quiet when darkies were in there place ….in chains.

  64. Simple observation, over time.

    Ye Olde White British Colonial Masters
    had a most annoying habit.

    They maintained STANDARDS.
    And then came Nov. 1966 -and they and their standards left.

    The self-governing standards that replaced the Brit.Colonial ones were substandard
    and continued to slide.

    I recall a current PM saying some short time ago
    that we Bajans are not an enforcement society.

    And there’s your ludicrous “standards” of today
    -now a far cry from what obtained pre-1967.

    __________________________
    Dum is WE standards,
    how WE chooses to run we country!

    -and eff wunnuh doan like it
    wunnuh cud guh-long frum bout hey
    while things dissolve further!

    We is AFRO-Caribbeans and we LIKE it so.
    Lousy low standards forever!

  65. yatinkiteasy

    I don`t see any resemblance to the arrested youth in the artist`s drawings that Dottin is so proud about. The drawings could be anyone.
    Still, if they helped in the capture of the right people, the drawings served their purpose, however inaccurate they are.

  66. Robert

    @Yuhtinkiteasy

    I think you err on this one.

    The diagram I saw before they were captured, certainly resembles the clear-skinned fellow on the right.
    Let’s give the artist his due.

  67. Sayed

    it is not the artist, even though he is highly skilled.

    you have to remember he can only draw based on what he is being told by witnesses. It’s not something he draws up out of his head.

  68. KENRICK

    Kenrick F. Belgrave Terrorism hit Barbados on September 3, 2010. Six innocent women burned alive in the Trendz store on Tudor Street. The cowardly and sodomist terrorists that perpetrated this despicable act of terrorism upon us must be brought to justice. We …as Bajans must not let this act of terrorism go unchecked. I am holding the Barbados Criminal Investigation Department responsible for results concerning this crime against humanity. Those innocent womem did not deserve to be burned alive. Bajans it could have been anyone one of us caught in that fiery bombing. Bajans anyone who have any information must come forward to the authorities. Time is of the essence, anyone who have any information please go to the Main Guard, call, speak to a Clergy. Trendz is now Barbados’s ground zero. We have to make sure NEVER AGAIN will we allow this terrorist act to happen. Bajans we have to get involved because you could be next. Your son, daughter anybody could be next. Do not let these women deaths be in vain. We can start a reward for the capture and conviction of the sodomist terrorists

  69. Whuh de CID do you, doah?

    Kenrick, I agree with most of your statements
    but do not see how you want to hold the CID responsible for results concerning this crime against humanity.

    The CID will investigate, and lay its findings
    at the foot of the DPP Dir. of Public Prosecutions.

    Mr.Leacock will then prosecute in a court of Law.
    If/when found guilty, sentence will be passed according to what’s in the books, for a crime/s of that nature.

    The convicted will be transported to Dodds.
    Chicken and orange juice daily at our expense
    costs the taxpayer about $50 per prisoner,per day.
    That’s why we pay VAT at supermarket.

    What happens next is the cause for our frustrations
    (and results in public near-mobbings on Wellington St.?)

    This is where smart-ass lawyers working for international agencies like Amnesty
    step in to cuhfuffle our lawful process of carrying out sentence as hand down, upon conviction.

    That’s a long long way away from CID’s investigations and findings/evidence.

    CID can do no more than its assigned job, cuh dear!

  70. rasta man

    Waiting to see who the lawyers will be!!!

  71. Carmen

    I am very suprised at the level of detail in this article and the subsequent discussions on this board. Whatever the evidence may indicate they are ‘innocent until proven guilty’. You should not be permitted to prejudice the outcome of the impending trial with tittle tattle gossip and inuendo. If you care to check the legal procedure this thread breaches their rights to a fair and unbiased trial.

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  75. rastaman

    What happened with Renaldo Alleyne?

  76. BFP

    @ rastaman

    Alleyne was given six life sentences after pleading to manslaughter. Of the other man, there has been no mention that I’ve heard.

    Robert.

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