More Indications That Barbados Government Will Not Keep Promise To Hold Public Hearings On Integrity Legislation

Folks, we received this anonymous email that we should all treat as rumour – but here goes anyway…

That said, if the information is genuine it is further confirmation that the government intends to ram Integrity Legislation through without the promised public discussion.

Usually governments do this so they can pass some half-hearted or flawed legislation without public scrutiny and then when the laws are found to be full of holes, they say “It is done, stop your complaining.”

And that is exactly what we fear: Integrity Legislation from the Thompson government that has an agenda of not making it too effective. (Neither Thompson nor Mottley want to have to lock up any friends, you know!)

We must remember that last June, Senator Orlando Marville, chairman of the new Governance Advisory Board that is supposed to be creating and implementing ITAL – Integrity, Transparency and Accountability Legislation – promised the following to the citizens of Barbados…

– Three town hall meetings will be held in addition to meetings with the media, the social partners, and other specific stakeholders in August.

– The process and materials will be placed online (Internet)

– Considerable public participation during the discussions in August.

You don’t have to believe us folks. Check out our article and the links to media articles quoting Senator Marville. (see BFP’s Barbados Government Says Integrity, Freedom Of Information and Defamation Laws In A Year Or So – Or Maybe Two Years)

August came and went and we never heard another word about public consultation. Now we get this anonymous email – that once again brags about ITAL coming, but seems to indicate that we, the public, should not participate in the process. According to this DLP insider, Bajans should just shut up and take whatever is imposed upon us by a condescending government…

Dear Gentlemen,

After much back and forth by BFP and BU on the subject of Integrity Legislation and the Freedom of Information Act, I am indeed very pleased to report that a full suite of Legislation is being completed and so far the Cabinet has seen and has approved the New FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT with the drafting of the INTEGRITY LEGISLATION nearly complete.

It is expected that circulation of both of these drafts will done prior to the Christmas break of Parliament and will be passed into law very shortly thereafter.

I trust that this will settle everyone’s nerves and will address the concerns of the people of Barbados, the gov’t of Barbados, the Opposition of Barbados and both BU and BFP.

The DLP promised that they would address these issues and they are doing what is required to make this a reality but on the other hand, as was the case at BFP making a daily issue of it with their silly remarks has done nothing to hasten the pace at which the work of those involved in the drafting of the legislation can perform it has happened at its own pace.

The work was carried by a group of well respected persons and it is hoped that at the end of it all that all the expectations will be served.

Not to be neglected is the new Freedom of Information Act this will present a whole new dimension to journalism and provide for more flexability in their reporting and interviews.

I trust that this will assist in given you some idea as to how far along and how serious the Gov’t is with these new pieces of legislation.

Regards,

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37 responses to “More Indications That Barbados Government Will Not Keep Promise To Hold Public Hearings On Integrity Legislation

  1. bob

    “The work was carried by a group of well respected persons and it is hoped that at the end of it all that all the expectations will be served.”

    BFP….. DO NOT, I repeat…. DO NOT Trust this paragraph. I will be very concerned about who these “Well Respected Persons” are and moreso .. Well respected by WHOM ?

    They cannot all of a sudden over few months of having the Public contribute their views and ideas to ITAL and now …. “I am indeed very pleased to report that a full suite of Legislation is being completed and so far the Cabinet has seen and has approved …… ”
    This is B.S. We the public want to participate in the governance of those that we have elected to manage our affairs and our country …. NOW and in future years to come.

  2. Hants

    Since we have not yet reached the stage of Government by blogging, I suggest we accept that this legislation will be dealt with as suggested in the email.

    I have been reading letters to the Editor in the mainstream newspapers for years. Before the Internet editions, we could buy Barbados papers here in Canada.

    There was no relentless call for Integrity Legislation during the 14 ( fourteen) years the BLP were in power.

    I give credit to the owners of BFP for their tenacity in keeping this issue alive.

    I Hants am prepared to give the Dems 14 months and if both ITAL and FIA follow the Canadian model it will be satisfactory to me.

    BFP did their job.

    Others that doth protest should do so on the steps of Parliament.

    Let the licks begin.

    *****************

    BFP says,

    You may trust Thompson and his people to provide the legislation UNSEEN that is right for the country without any of the PROMISED public input and PROMISED consultation with stakeholders…

    but I don’t trust him to produce his SURPRISE! TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT! legislation.

    I believe that if left alone without TRANSPARENCY DURING THE PROCESS, they will produce legislation that favours themselves, not the interests of Barbados.

    Thompson talks about transparency and wanting to do the right thing about conflicts of interest, but he has zero transparency about his use of borrowed executive jets from people who do business with the government.

    The fact that Thompson is going through this process without transparency… HELL>.. not even an email address where the public could communicate with this so-called “committee” – betrays his inner heart.

    No… we don’t trust the DLP. They said they would adopt a Ministerial Code on the day they took office. That lasted until the rebellion of the piggies… no matter Thompson’s intentions.

    Thompson could have on the day he took office declared a government policy that no government contracts would be issued to companies owned by elected officials or their immediate family.

    That wouldn’t have taken a change in law… nothing except the desire to show some leadership.

    You can blindly trust Thompson all you want, but recent history says we would be wise not to because his Ministers are not backing him in his ITAL promises. Matter ‘a fact, they are damn well angry that he would make such foolish promises a few weeks before the vote.

    And THAT my friend comes so close to the truth that if Thompson is reading this he knows who spoke it.

  3. Hants

    BFP I blindly trust you too until someone proves you wrong.

    You all have enough common sense to realise that the DLP must create ITAL and a FIA that will give them credibility in the next election.

    There will also be some proof of corruption and the BLP have to determine who the sacrificial lambs will be so as to protect the “members of the Political Class”.

    Here is some public input.

    Ministers must declare all assets.

    Ministers must put commercial assets in a Blind Trust. The Canadian model allowed the sons of Paul Martin to run his company while Dad ran the country.That would not be acceptable to BFP.

    BFP please show us your ITAL.

    The must know that the BLP recorded every public meeting and will be using “modern technology” to try to win the next election.

  4. bob

    BFP…. dispite our Canadian Friend, Hantz, Barbadians especially Politicians in opposition have been calling for ITAL using various terminological words to describe “ITAL” over the years and going as far back as I can remmember to the Purchase & Sale of the “North Point Cement Ship” in the 1970’s (Barrow vs Adams). No need to give other examples.. everyone knows them.

  5. bob

    Oh and note… If the citizens do not play an inportant roll in the BIG decisions of our country, things like our country becomming a Republic would have been a done deal. Thanks to Trinidad’s President vs Prime-minister problem … this is what saved us.

  6. Hants

    @ Bob

    I am a Bajan with Canadian citizenship who supports the DLP.

    I also support ITAL and a FIA.

    Those who feel strongly about this issue should write a letter to the PM outlining what you want to see in the ITAL.

    Copy it to BFP.

  7. Jerome Hinds

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080930/ap_on_go_ot/stevens_trial

    After reading the story above….no doubt Owen Arthur and his other BLP thieves will try to leave the precincts of Barbados !

    Alas…….too late Hammie La have already passed on the critical information !!!

    Ha…Ha….Ha…!

  8. Hants

    http://www.cbc.bb/index.pl/article?id=2332702

    “Relief should soon be underway for thousands of City residents who are without potable water and water borne toilet facilities.”

    It is hard to believe this is about Bridgetown and not Port au prince.

    Nobody noticed while they built a Prison.

    Nobody cared while they built a new Highway.

    First world Barbados nuh!

    *********************

    BFP says,

    Hi Hants,

    Old story but it reminded us of a couple we wrote and forgot about.

    I think you’ll like Shona’s interview of PM Arthur (link here)

    and also for a good water story (link here)

  9. Thomas Gresham

    Here is an interesting problem for the Barbados government. Let us say that they pass some effective ITAL. By doing so they serve us all. No question. They serve the DLP’s reputation. Yes. But they serve all voters and tax payers. They serve our democracy. We would and should all congratulate them. I would. But they also serve the BLP.

    They serve the BLP because effective ITAL will make us voters worry less about the corruptability of politicians in the future than in the past. It will mean that rumours and counter rumours about the “other lot” stealing will have less traction. Stories of this sort would need a higher bar of proof than currently, because corruption would be that much harder (though never impossible). Politics will return to what it should be about: Performance. Economic performance, social performance, hard, clear, performance and delivery.

    On the current record, this government will not be returned on the basis of performance and delivery. It has failed to deliver on every promise – including the promise of ITAL. Their economic performance will not easily stand up to the inflation and employment performance of the last administration.

    The government’s excuse for non-performance comes in repeated claims of untold debts and deficits. Every international economist or statistician I know scoffs at this attempt to befuddle the Barbadian public with a continuous state of new allegations but never progress on past allegations. Barbados complies with the IMF statisitical standards. The statistics released internationally under these standards have shown no backward revision of far greater debt and deficits as yet and I will wager than they never will.

    ITAL will improve our politics. It will raise our standards and narrow our focus. The irony is that were it to do so, and the public focused on performance and delivery they would boot out the very government that delivered the ITAL. Maybe DLP strategists know this. Maybe that is why they are delaying ITAL on one hand, while on the other trying to shock us with ever more horrifying stories of what went on in the past without it.

  10. Hants

    BFP let us keep these humanitarian issues in the mix.

    No Barbadian should be badin at de stan pipe in 2008.
    The DLP has an opportunity to change this.

  11. Thomas Gresham

    A thousand apologies for the repeated post, though the first one has an unfinished sentence I was working on, so read the one above instead.

  12. Eye95

    I lend my fullest and most sincere support to ITAL and FIA.

    I am of the view that at least it will protect the reputation of decent; law-abiding Barbadians from gossip and those who wilfully set out to defame and without just cause – reduce the character of a person – to his/her disadvantage.

    As a deterrant, might I suggest a fine of $500,000 or 25 years in JAIL, for anyone found guilty of malicious gossip; the promotion thereof or the wilful attempt to defame without just cause.

    It should be provided that where the truth is told and a person becomes unpopular, then his/her character has only been reduced to what it really ought to be.

    The promotion of “malicious gossip” should be defined as: “having information but opting not to pass it to the lawful authorities and the spreading or rumours or making false allegations – solely for purposes of profiteering or gain, whether financial or other.”

    Example. With ITAL as described, Prime Minister Thompson would be liable for his statement that: “millions are stashed in foreign bank account.” (Impeach or resignation, especially in circumstances where he cannot show credible cause) In this regard, the legislation should be retroactive to April 1, 2008 to cover the 2008-2009 Estimates Debate.

    Now! Once that loophole has been plug, (the introduction of ITAL as suggested) operative and this DLP Government – will have to produce, since ITAL will become an “efficiency promotion strategy.” It will also minimise the impact of distraction tactics and blame.

    The DLP will therefore have extremely serious challenges if it ever passes this legislation the way it ought to, beacuse “cammie tudor big lie politics,” would be a thing of the pass.

    Secondly, hartley henry would no longer be useful as a priciple politcal adviser and the taxpayers will save $156,000.

  13. Eye95

    BFP,

    Is something wrong with the comment on ITAL and FIA. Should I amend and re-submit?

  14. Sang Lee

    Jerome Hinds: “After reading the story above….no doubt Owen Arthur and his other BLP thieves will try to leave the precincts of Barbados !”

    Is that the same reason why YOU left the precincts of Barbados?

  15. Emorej Sdnih Ssakcaj

    Jerome Hinds: “After reading the story above….no doubt Owen Arthur and his other BLP thieves will try to leave the precincts of Barbados !”

    Is that the same reason why YOU left the precincts of Barbados?

  16. Jerome Hinds

    Emorej Sdnih Ssakcaj
    October 1, 2008 at 11:39 am
    Jerome Hinds: “After reading the story above….no doubt Owen Arthur and his other BLP thieves will try to leave the precincts of Barbados !”

    Is that the same reason why YOU left the precincts of Barbados?
    ***********************************

    Sorry …….mate !

    I am not leaving as yet……..I will be around to sign the document which will admit those BLP thieves to a life at Dodds !

    The information at hand……gine mek them puke !

  17. Eye95

    Look!

    Itegrity legislation does not help the DLP. It merely puts it under additional pressure. This holier than thou approach is pure deceit.

    Were one to apply a fraction of intelligence, it would be seen that there is a fundamental disconnect between: “ITAL and the DLP’s fatted calf philosophy.”

    How can you expect to pass ITAL and FIA without national consultation, especially after promising good governance?

    Isn’t good governace “participatory democracy?”

    Here is what the DLP said on page 46 of its 2008 manifesto:

    Good governance has 8 characters:
    (1) participatory
    (2) consensus oriented
    (3) accountable to the electorate
    (4) transparent in all its decision-making
    (5) responsive to the needs of voters
    (6) effective and efficient
    (7) equitable and inclusive
    (8) follow the rule of law.

    But on all all counts thus far, the DLP has failed. Did it follow the rule of law as regards its wild allegation about: “millions stashed in foreign accounts?

    Journalist call it: “HANGING BY INUENDO” That is done in a banana republic where there are kangaroo courts.

    Is the DLP responsive to the needs of the electorate? Seventy per cent (70%) of respondents in a Nation newspaper poll do not think so.

    Did the DLP release cost of living; employment and economic statistics willingly, despite promising FIA?

    Are Barbadians being invited to comment on the rumoured – draft ITAL and FIA Bill?

    There is no way the DLP can be said to be effective and efficient , especially when it has cause a meltdown in the Barbados economy and it is crystal clear, that the DLP does not know what it is doing.

    I have demonstrated beyond doubt that even when you apply the very standards set by the DLP to guage it credibility and performce – the DLP is coming up very short. Barbadians are therefore being “short changed.”

    But what can we do! Absolutely nothing!! We can either, “like it or lump it.” This is Barrow country. The DLP owns Barbados and can do whatever they like, whenever they want. The DLP said that it is “beholden to no one.”

    IF INTEGRITY LEGISLATION IS IMPLEMENTED THE WAY IT OUGHT TO BE, THE DLP WOULD HAVE TO RESIGN, IMMEDIATELY.

    Listen to the apoligists!!!

  18. Thomas Gresham

    I think Freedom of Information is a good thing. When I was in the UK I once sat on an advisory panel of the UK government on the implementation of the FOI. That process made me realise that while FoI is a force for good governance, to do it properly and give real freedom of information is also a little expensive. Often information is expensive to retrieve in a useable way, and once you start charging for access you destroy access. Beware.

    One of the earliest forms of FoI, are the IMF’s statistical standards. These were implemented after the Asian Financial Crisis of 1997-98. There was a belief – one that I do not share – that the crisis could have been moderated if only local and international investors were aware of the size of short-term external debt held by local corporates. The point is that we signed up to comply with these standards on the methodology, user-frendliness and frequency of economic data and by 2005, when the IMF conducted their Financial Sector Assessment (FSAP) they did not, as they might well have done, suggest that our data methodology and releases were not in compliance with the codes. (Check out the Central Bank of Barbados website (centralbank.org.bb/) which is free and now has far more up to date data on the Barbados economy than was readly available 10 years ago. There has been evolutionary change on data releases at the CBB, but we have had this quality of information for the past couple of years.)

    It would appear the this government is in breach of the commitment and spirit of the code to maintain certainty and predictability on the timing and frequency of economic data releases. The government has also been playing politics with treatment of data (whether private PFI contracts are on or off balance sheet). This does not bode well for the implementation of FoI.

    I believe we need an independent statistical service, with a board composed of people who may be aligned to both political parties but know something about statistics, former auditors, university statistical experts and external statistical experts. They would begin by making sure our economic data is credible and then they will look at non-economic data that may fall under FoI. In the UK there has been a big call by the public on health and education data. This is generally a good thing, though it is not only expensive but it has also led to a over-focus on league tables of a few key statistics on schools and hospitals that do not always tell the full picture. Beware again.

    The government likes to insult the civil service on data and pour scorn and skepticism on its own data as if they are in opposition, but they have proposed nothing serious to fix the problems they cite, because then they will lose another thing that they like to spend time on instead of governing. Good, independent, statistics is key to good governance, otherwise we will get seduced by the illusory worlds our politicians live in.

  19. Hants

    BFP

    I am thinking you could change your name to BFPBLP Press.

    eye95 and Thomas Gresham in control.

  20. Tell me Why

    I am not leaving as yet……..I will be around to sign the document which will admit those BLP thieves to a life at Dodds !
    ………………………………………………………………………………….
    You all are making mock sport regarding Governance. Do tell me how you could be one of the decision makers of the country and come on the blog and speak about policy, even going overboard and talking about you signing documents of corruption before getting the case lodged. You all talk too much. Peace.

  21. Tell me Why

    I am thinking you could change your name to BFPBLP Press.
    ………………………………………………………………………………….
    Come on Hants, you know that operatives of any opposition usually have field days promoting ills of society. You must realise that prior to elections, DLP operatives including you, had the blogs heavy with your posting. Don’t talk about 181, alias VIW in the reversed, he was cutting and pasting every speech, every cock fight, every historical piece from the party’s archives and placing them on the blogs. So you have no alternatives but to relax and analyse the comments. How’s the weather in Canada land?

  22. Tell me Why

    I also learnt recently from a former blp cabinet member that mottley has taken on the role as the blogger as eye95
    ………………………………………………………………………………….
    Opps,181 aka VIW, you surely cannot change your stripes. Your language of being informed my some source is blaring in your statement. Would you jump now to 383?

  23. Tell me Why

    THE BLP WERE A CORRUPT BUNCH AND THE SENSIBLE ELECTORATE EVICTED THEM FROM OFFICE.
    ………………………………………………………………………………….
    Ok, we acknowledged that party had corruption. But were are the facts to prosecute the guilty. This is the fundamental problem that I have been trying to shove into your virgin brain. Stop the talking, get the facts and presto the guilty ones will have a changed of address at Dodds all-inclusive hotel. However, what you must do is create a better standard of living for our masses or you might be singing the one-term blues. Get it brother!!!!

  24. Eye95

    How can the DLP promise “change,” “good governance” and “integrity,” yet pay hartley henry $156,000 to curse Opposition Leader, Miss Mia Mottley – week after week?

    After all these years, the DLP is still adament that the only useful purpose Barbadian women serve is to vote, “fry fishcakes” and “clear/clean” tables?

    Is that the reason why the DLP has placed women and the middle class – under such unnecessary economic pressure?

    My friends, that is precisely the reason why the DLP has taken delight in placing 3000 workers – mostly females – on the breadline, thereby causing dysfunctional families?

    The hate of Barbadian women by this “tired DLP Outfit” – best explains why Ronal Jones refers to Barbadian women as: “THE UNDER BELLY OF OUR SOCIETY, WHO SELL THEIR BODIES TO PAY BILLS.”

    Ronald Jones would not deny having said that, neither will he offer an apology for having said so.

    The DLP is anti-women (Thompson’s flawed economic policies hurt women most)

    The DLP is anti- union (the DLP took the union off the QEH Board)

    The DLP is anti-worker (3000 have so far been forced on the bread-line by the DLP, which will now give public servants the smallest pay increase possible)

  25. bob

    ITAL really needs to be implemented into our economic systems and as soon as practical. After reading from tonnes of contributors those for and those against I can honestly say there is a real need.
    Eye 95 talked about imposing a 500,000 Fine with a 25 year Jail term. He also talked about Character ruination by false accusations etc…. some good notes but I’ll throw this senario out to you all and patiently await your comments / opinions.

    eg.. You apply to Town & Country for building Permission…. or ….. to your Bank for a business Loan,…. For work Permits .. whatever lets use the Bank Loan
    Enter you for a loan… Bank representative greets you, listens to your plans, your needs etc… and expresses his/her ability to willingly work to help you. And so you are told what information is required and you are making notes as you are chatting. A new appointment is then arranged to present that information and you are now told that it has to go through the Credit Risk division… call me next week. One week later you call the officer and another appointment is schedules for the following week. The following week you arrive only to learn that you need to produce more information and so you take notes once again. Another meeting is then scheduled and some two weeks later you get together with the bank’s officer to go through the additional information and the meeting ends with the officer promising to get back to you within a few days. Well another week passes and you attempt to reach the officer and for several days he is unavailable and your return telephone calls remain unanswered. Of course you are becoming frustrated and talk with your friends some who advise you that you have to offer a gift or payment to the officer in order to get through, but you are really not that kind of person so you keep trying to contact the officer. Finally you get him on the telephone several weeks later and he apoligises for not returning your call and informs you that he is looking out for your best interest. He then schedules yet another meeting for yet another week away and at this new meeting this guy is now requesting that you provide him with another set of information.. this time “Projections”. Twelve weeks have now elapsed since you’ve started and though you have provided all that has been requested this officer does not seem to be satisfied… he continues to always want more. You have provided your business plan, Collateral, and lots of other information and all WITHOUT success.
    —-Tell me this…. What do you think is now going through this Customer ‘s mind ?
    —-What if the in the case where the customer only wanted a temporary overdraft extension … ?
    —-What if it took several years, say 6, to get Town & Country to approve building Plans?
    —-What if you wanted a Government house to live in?
    —-What when you needed to have the courts decide on the repayments of monied due to you ?
    How do you think … the people feel and what do you think their solutions or options will be ?

  26. 282

    BFP SAYS

    EVERY Comment ever made by this writer under this IP and identity has been removed from the blog.

    This is because it is our old abuser who continues to return under different names and IPs.

    As we cannot prevent his return under different names and IPs, we have now implemented a policy that when he comes and abuses the blog and is discovered (and he always makes the same abuse sooner or later) we will eliminate all past comments under that IP and identity.

    thank you.

    george

    **********************************************

  27. Tell me Why

    181, 282, VIW in reverse and the evasive “you know who”. Are you in love with Mia? Did she reject your advances? Hope you don’t call her name in your sleep? You’re simply pathetic without any pride.

  28. Eye95

    @ bob,

    Sir you sound like a reasonable person who genuinely wants to advance this debate.

    The United Nations Convention against corruption not only speaks about politicians but “politically exposed persons.”

    The persons who offers and accept bribes.

    The old Barbados law: The Prevention of Corruption Act, carries a small “insignicant” penalty where public officers accepts gifts for services rendered.

    We need tough laws and honest persons at all levels of society. There must also be greater promotion of respect for the rule of law.

    How would you feel if you are at the bank; standing in the line for a hour and someone enters ahead of you and is served.

    Ask the Dems hammie has been given a big pick. That may not be corruption, but is certainly cause for concern

    My point! Respect, enforcement and vigilance.

  29. Adrian Hinds

    The work was carried by a group of well respected persons and it is hoped that at the end of it all that all the expectations will be served.

    What! no politicians wher involved?

    @Thomas Gresham
    Two questions
    1: Isn’t nine month a bit premature to call the current government a failure?

    2: Has the IMF changed it often times repeated call for better reporting from the Barbados government?

  30. reality check

    the existing elite have been using the legal system and their judge friends for years to stifle free speech by issuing defamation writs for years without merit but rather to intimidate any kind of honest comment.

    Look no further than the Noel Lynch legal “shake down” when someone asked him a tough question on the radio talk show that he didn’t like. Had ITAL been in place he could have referred the questioner to his filed declaration and stated exactly how he made his millions of Dollars.

    Make no mistake about it. ITAL and FIA legislation is only the first step. After that, it requires honest lawyers and judges in exercising fair and equitable decisions based on FULL AND ACCURATE disclosure as well as an understanding that in politics, politicians should have a thicker skin than the average citizen and that the matter should be only elevated to embroil the legal system when the accusation is very serious.

    If in fact Eye95 is the bully MIA, as one blogger suggested then this would explain the wish for higher legal penalties and a continuation of abuse of the legal system every time a person perceives an injustice.

    Lawyers who have nothing better to do than issue writs and manipulate the system to their advantage to stifle freedom of expression and gain a political advantage, really shouldn’t be allowed to practice law.

    Bob–the whole issue of honesty and integrity needs to
    be reintroduced into Barbadian society. The system has become so rotten that every person in their daily dealings needs to ask how they would like to be treated in a similar circumstances. The concept of do unto others as you would have them do unto you has been supplanted by deceit, manipulation and greed.

  31. Eye95

    The DLP has given Hamilton Lashley a job. He now has two.

    No such luck for those 3000 who are on the breadline as a result of the flawed economic policies of Prime Minister Thompson. Others will follow.

    Prime Minister Thompson stated publicly that “hammie will not starve” Tough luck for Barbadians, especially the middle class from Forte George Heighs, who are crying out for Mr. Thompson’s high cost of living and excessive taxation.

    Why should hammie care! His poverty has again be alleviated.

  32. Adrian Hinds

    @reality check
    Bob–the whole issue of honesty and integrity needs to
    be reintroduced into Barbadian society. The system has become so rotten that every person in their daily dealings needs to ask how they would like to be treated in a similar circumstances. The concept of do unto others as you would have them do unto you has been supplanted by deceit, manipulation and greed.
    ===================================

    Indeed, from the top including the political class, the lawyer class, and the Economic THEORY class, on down, to those who find it necessary to be part of the Praedial larceny class.

    ….We are all familiar with the rumors about deceit, manipulation and greed among the political class, we have seen evidence of deceit, manipulation, greed, allegations and proof of theft among the Lawyer class. The Praedial larceny class is an often told story, even as recent as this week, they struck, stealing cassava plants from a farm.

    The Economic class is one that we have not paid much attention to, and I suggest, it is because they often times use language and concepts i.e. tools of the THEORY to bamboozle those not schooled in the subject.

    Case in point. We have a contributor who sets out to demonstrate that there is NO evidence of debt and deficits in the way and in the amonts as PM Thompson recently said was the case. The contributor goes on laying the ground work to bolster their position against the claim, by citing their “associations with all the economist and statisticians that they know,….

    Their words thus:

    “The government’s excuse for non-performance comes in repeated claims of untold debts and deficits. Every international economist or statistician I know scoffs at this attempt to befuddle the Barbadian public with a continuous state of new allegations but never progress on past allegations.
    —————-

    The emphasis here suggest a colluding between the author and “all the economist and statisticians they know” on the economy of Barbados and Thompson’s accusation, when it is more likely to be an over the top attempt to once and for all refute the Pm’s claims. The learned Economists and statisticians have spoken according them.
    ———–

    I have spoken in the past about this reverence to the opinions of Economist as they apply their theories to a real situation and use the theoretical results to predict the future. It is not an exact process, nor does it stand on it’s own independent of politics, and or morals, and when it seeks to do so it does not describe reality. We all may have heard how two economist can look at the same problem and come to different opinions on it. They are also susceptible to ideological, and political positions, as the current financial crisis in the USA has demonstrated. We have over 200 economist almost equally divided on the question of the Taxpayer bailout being good or bad.

    The same contributor went on to further suggest that “Barbados complies with the IMF statistical standards” and i do not wish to dispute this, but if the statement was made to bolster their believe that the debt and deficits that PM Thompson spoke about are not accounted for in the IMF consultation reports therefore the PM must be seriously mistaken, I ask the contributor if he has not seen the following as recent as the 2006 contained in IMF Barbados consultation report on page 3

    DATA: The statistical information provided by Barbados is broadly adequate for surveillance
    purposes, but weaknesses remain. In particular, the coverage and transparency of data on public sector
    entities and capital account transactions need to be improved. Barbados participates in the General
    Data Dissemination System (GDDS).

    This has been a consistent entry on these consultation reports since 2000.

  33. Jerome Hinds

    Eye95
    October 1, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    The DLP has given Hamilton Lashley a job. He now has two.

    No such luck for those 3000 who are on the breadline as a result of the flawed economic policies of Prime Minister Thompson. Others will follow.

    Prime Minister Thompson stated publicly that “hammie will not starve” Tough luck for Barbadians, especially the middle class from Forte George Heighs, who are crying out for Mr. Thompson’s high cost of living and excessive taxation.

    Why should hammie care! His poverty has again be alleviated.
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    Why should you be up in arms about the Hon. Hamilton Fitzgerald Lashley……being given another LEGITIMATE opportunity to assist Barbadians in achieving their goals ?

    Eye 95……when you and your TIEFFING BLPites were cutting your backdoor deals…….

    MINUS

    * Public disclosure !
    * Lack of contracts !
    * Lack of budgeting integrity !

    Where was your CROOKED concern ???

    In the case of the Hon. Hamilton Fitzgerald Lashley, His Most DISTINGUISHED and Hon. David Thompson……told Barbadians that MP Lashley will not starve , nor his family or St. Michael South – East constituents .

    Now that is what you call :

    * Transparency , Accountability & SENSITIVITY !

    No wonder the DEMS……are in POWER !!!

    The DEMS fuh de PEOPLE……..and the PEOPLE fuh de DEMS !!!!!

  34. Eye95

    @ Jerome Hinds,

    How much of the taxpayers money parliamentarian and former cabinet minister Hamilton Lashley will be passed, under the guise that he will work with the youth and coordinate summer camp?

    What is wrong with all of those hundreds of Youth Commissioners, Community Development Officera and NCF Cultural Officers?

    It is known that the “paid volunteers” will get $500.00 every two weeks. But, no such luck for those Barbadians who volunteers for World Cup Cricket, which put Barbados on the map.

    They too must now also be paid retroactively, especially since this “so-called DLP of integrity” has set a new precedent that volunteer are to be paid.

    It should not be too difficult for this “so-called government of freedom of information” – to tell the taxpayers, what the bail-out package for Hamilton Lashley will cost them.

    The DLP has the nerve to talk about corruption. But, at a time when it should be fixing the economy, it is instead – using taxpayers money to buy political support.

    The Rt. Excellent E. W Barrow spoke about this years ago. He warned Barbadians about allowing politicaians to bribe them with their own money.

    Here is the DLP’ port barrel politics in full glare:

    (1) So-called free bus rides for school children to incriminate Barbadians that the money is being spent on them.

    (2) Instead, the massive taxes you are paying are being used to buy votes and purchase people like hammie

    (3) The DLP will pass some of that money (yest your taxes) to select people through summer camps; 4H constituency clubs and constituency councils. This is the “fatted calf” being eated, right before your eyes.”

    This is a “vulgar abuse of taxpayers money,” which should not only attract the attention of Transparency International, but the ire every patriotic Barbadian.

    THIS DLP IS MORE CORRUPT THAN IT “ALLEGED” THE BLP “WAS.”

    Barbadians wake up!!!! The DLP is seeking to buy and bribe you with your own money. At this rate Barbados will have to build two more jails.

    Barbadians, while you are suffering, the DLP is handpicking people to feed at the trough.

    A post is created for Hamilton Lashley just like that, but 3000 persons, some of whom you know, are on the bread-line. Hamilton Lashley now has two jobs.

    See how Hamilton Lashley has been rewarded for saying that Thomposn’s budget was a poor man’s budget?

    The stench of corruption is rising to the sky!!!! Where is the voice of the Bishop; the Church; the Union and the private sector?

    DAY AFTER DAY, IT BECOMES CLEARER, WHY THE DLP IS SO RELUCTANT TO INTRODUCE INTEGRITY LEGISLATION!!!!

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    BFP comments,

    Laying it on a little thick for a supporter of the corrupt BLP, don’t you think?

    But we are enjoying the debate between two corrupt political groups as to which one is the “most” corrupt.

    … Because it reveals a great truth to the people of Barbados. There is no difference between the two gangs of piggies except that one group just had their turn at the trough for 14 years, and now the other group is looking forward to chowing down.

    What we need is a reform movement, and this “who is more corrupt?” debate will start folks thinking again.

    Thanks to the corrupt DLP and BLP piggies! Keep at it – because your job right now is to educate the voters and you’re doing a magnificent job.

  35. Thomas Gresham

    I wait, with baited breath, to see if any of the DLP accusations about the state of the government’s finances and debt are reflected in a revision of our national data.

    Good, credible data is critical for a democracy to function, it helps to stop voters from being seduced by the politicians’ illusion. If the Govenrment believes the data is so bad, instead of forever beating up on the competence and integrity of our civil servants who produce the data, why not propose a new more independent system? Why not have an independent statistics office, with members of the board who are strong statisticians, plus those who are external and therefore more independent of local politics and those representatives of parties to ensure that there is a bi-partisan approach to measurement of our economy. Wonder why plans for this are not well developed? The government has no interest in the accurate measurement of unemployment and inflation as they rise.

    Is the government a failure? It is early days and I hope it recovers. But it has made monumentally bad economic decisions that will cast a long shadow on our economy. The US is trying to deal with an economic recession. Are they following the DLP’s example of raising taxes and lowering subsidies? No, because that is economic folly in a recession. What foolishness, It is the same foolishness that allows Mr Sealy to say that in order to diversify our exposure to the US economic recession we will focus more energy on Canada. Duh? 88% of Canadian exports go to the US. If diversification from the US is the objective you have to focus on Europe, the Middle-East and Latin America.

    The government is also more clearly a failure at fulfilling the promises it made to get elected. Every decision of the government goes completely against the avowed objective of cutting the cost of living. Higher administrative taxes of $104m will raise the cost of living as they get passed on to everyone. The end of $90m of subsidies will raise the cost of living.

    Barrow is one of my heroes. I hope the government wakes up and realises it is in government and starts to govern. Then I will vote to re-elect them. But governing is not as easy or as much fun as opposition. It is hard work. It is not about galivanting on my friend’s plane while ordinary Barbadians struggle with the rise in the cost of living and the impending tourist recession.

  36. Eye95

    Thompson’s boar farm

    Having run old Snowball from the farm, the new boar hog Napoleon (Thompson) changed his mind about the new rules made – not walking on two legs; sleeping in a bed and drinking (the introduction integrity legislation to stamp out “thieving”)

    The temptation was too great. Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. The new piggies to the trough (the Dems) led by the wild boar Napoleon (Thompson) and his pit bull (hartley) started to gouge themselves obese. M

    eanwhile the farm (the economy) started to rundown (recession)

    When real hens (Ronald Jones and Denis Lowe) asked questions, the wild boar Napoleon said that they had misread the very rules (ITAL) he had changed when no one was looking.

    “Oh no! We did not say no sleeping on beds. We said no sleeping on beds with sheets. We are not sleeping on beds with sheets we have taken the sheets off!!!”

    The others (Barbadians) could only look on in amazement as the new hungry piggies trampled themselves to get to the trough, each man to get his fill. They look at man and the animals but could not tell the difference.

    The script is the same but the actors are new. Enters hammie stage right. The corruption continues!!!

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