Prime Minister Thompson’s Plan For Integrity In Barbados Government: Group Studies, Talk and More Talk – That’s It!

Well, That Should Leave The DLP A Couple Of Free Years To Feed At The Trough!

It is happening folks.

After ignoring integrity issues for two full years of Thompson’s leadership, then grabbing some fine words from the internet a few weeks before the vote – it seems that the DLP commitment to integrity initiatives involves a whole lotta talk and zero action.

The DLP could have been studying and consulting and writing legislation for two years IF integrity legislation was really at the core of their political platform. They said they would adopt their published Ministerial Code immediately upon forming the government… and they did not.

Now as the promised “100 days” deadline for integrity legislation, freedom of information laws and conflict of interest rules approaches, the Barbados DLP Government says they are going to form a group and talk.

That’s it.

No draft legislation. No rules adopted that would control the behaviour of Ministers. (Right now, it is perfectly legal for a Government Minister to receive gifts from people and corporations that sign million dollar contracts with the same Government Minister! BFP story here)

And no transparency or rules governing the Prime Minister’s use of private business jets provided by corporations who profit from government contracts! (Darling… Let’s go shopping in Miami. Leroy has a Gulfstream that just “happens” to be on a training flight to West Palm Beach this weekend and we can stay at his place for free!)

We’re not inventing the wheel, folks. There are a dozen different integrity legislation models out there that have been vetted in courts and the real world for a decade or more. Any one of them would be fine in the interim, but the DLP are obviously none to anxious to implement rules now that they have their fingers on the vault keys.

OK, we’ll not say too much more about this until the magic 100 days on April 15th.

Mek or break time, Mr. Prime Minister.

from the Lapdog Nation News…

Governance Unit Soon

A GOVERNANCE UNIT will soon be launched in Barbados.

Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office Senator Maxine McClean, said Cabinet had pproved the establishment of the a board to facilitate the work.

McClean, who has responsibility for the unit, was speaking at the launch of the 50th anniversary celebrations of the Government Information Service (GIS) at the Dining Club, Manor Lodge on Monday.

She said the Governance Unit will be responsible for such things as public consultation on the drafting and implementation of laws for, among other things, freedom of information and asset disclosure by ministers and other public officials.

It will also include: “A range of legislation to ensure that Barbadians not only hear Governments speak about transparency and integrity, but that the country develops an approach to doing business, whether its the public sector or the private sector where integrity and accountability are primary considerations.”

Specific to the GIS, McClean said it continued to have an important role to play in arming citizens with information so that their voices could be heard on matters that affected their lives through Government and other action.

Noting that the information landscape and public expectation had changed in the past 50 years, and that the demand for information was insatiable, McClean praised the contribution of the late Oliver Jackman, who was the first information officer.

Yesterday was also a chance to present winner of the slogan competition, Felton Ince, and runners-up Joy Springer, Carol George-Austin and Ronnie Yearwood with their prizes. (original story link here)

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57 responses to “Prime Minister Thompson’s Plan For Integrity In Barbados Government: Group Studies, Talk and More Talk – That’s It!

  1. Centipede

    As you said “There are a dozen different integrity legislation models out there that have been vetted in courts and the real world for a decade or more.”

    It would hardly be a mind-boggling problem to examine these legislations and formulate an appropriate one.

  2. BFP

    BFP says,

    That’s right, Centipede. We could even adopt a model very quickly and sunset it for 2 years while we tweak a more specific “made in Barbados” solution.

    But nope, the piggies want to operate for another few years without any rules at all.

    Oink oink oink.

  3. akabozik

    I KNEW IT. I knew it would be more of the same. I hoped and held my nose and voted DLP but in my heart I KNEW IT!

  4. West Side Davie

    Time for a new party. This system of giving one group of crooks a chance and then the other is not working.

  5. Time will Tell

    I find it truly offensive, absurd, deceitful and downright DLP ish to build a movement around the need for Transparency, Integrity and Accountability and renege so early in this administration. 14 years in the wilderness has thought them NOTHING.

    The people of Barbados clearly voted for a new approach. And King David promised.

    David Thompson has never been a trusted man and will never be. He has single-handedly divided the party along loyalty lines, ostracize anyone who challenges his authority and build a group of “yes men” to champion his cause.

    As I predicted in January, I again reiterate my assumption that, real trouble will develop within this Government unlike any we have ever seen. It will diminish Barbados to a shameful point. Simply put. A party without honor, integrity and truth cannot stand.

    The felonious errors already made in 2 months are stunning. Greenland dump double-talk, Hartley Henry’s appointment, Guarantee reductions in the cost of animal feed at governments expense, Corporate jet travels are just the beginning.

    Again, the more things change, the more they remain the same. Well done bajans!

    Only Time will Tell

  6. passin thru

    Soooooooeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

    Soooooooeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

    Here Piggy, Piggy, Piggy! Here Piggy, Pig!

    Sooooooooooooeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

    What a fine piggy you are DAVID THOMPSON

  7. Linchh

    BFP said:

    (Right now, it is perfectly legal for a Government Minister to receive gifts from people and corporations that sign million dollar contracts with the same Government Minister! BFP story here)

    Clearly this cannot be true. Although it is antiquated, there is existing legislation aimed at preventing corruption. Further, BFP’s approach seem to imply that unless there is a specific legal framework there is no basis for doing what is right.

    What does BFP say to the following:
    “Once I was alive apart from law: but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life, and I died. I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death.” Romans 7: 9-10 (NIV).

  8. Hants

    RUNNING A CONSTITUENCY OFFICE is expensive business, with one Member of Parliament (MP) revealing that last year alone he spent as much as $150 000 on matters related to his constituency.

    That admission came from former Cabinet minister and St Andrew MP George Payne, who was speaking during the Estimates Debate in the House of Assembly yesterday.

  9. BFP

    BFP says…

    With respect, Linchh YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG.

    Under the existing laws one would have to prove that the gift was given to receive a benefit or consideration and that such benefit or consideration was received.

    Modern integrity legislation and conflict of interest laws make the receiving of the gift the offense without placing an onus to “prove” that a specific benefit was received by the giver or that the receiver provided that benefit.

    That is why the current piggies at the trough don’t want effective integrity legislation.

  10. BFP

    In other words, under current laws when Leroy Paris or others who do business with the government provide Prime Minister David Thompson with $40,000 of private jet time as a “gift”, there is no requirement for the PM to reveal the gift and no prohibition against him accepting it.

    Similarly, if the head of our solid waste management unit purchases a used Mercedes for say, $1000.00, from a company that has a multi-million dollar contract to build the Greenland Dump, there is no offense and no requirement for him to reveal the benefit.

    But the reality is that if our elected or appointed government officials are allowed to receive gifts from people who do business with the government, it is CORRUPT.

  11. Hants

    Ahhh. the impatience of youth.

    BFP… sooner or later you will get your wish.

    ITAL is coming. It might take longer than you want but it is coming.

    A promise must be kept and it is the intention of the DLP Government to fulfill their promises even if a bit tardy in some cases.

    In addition to hammering away at the DLP you could start some serious examination of how the Recession in the USA and rising Oil prices are going to affect Barbados.
    Brasstacks seems to be “focusing” on the “Guyanese in Barbados” issue.

  12. Donald Duck, Esq

    BFP

    On a point of clarification. I refer to your opening remarks where you said the integrity legislation was promised within 100 days f the dlp being in power.

    You should refer to the dlp manifesto where it is stated that such legislation was to be introduced immediately. I realise that immediately is within the 100 days but the manifesto distinguishes between those promises for things to be done immediately and those to be done in 100 days. See attached summary of such measures

    IMMEDIATE ACTION

    Labour rights legislation ( page 36)

    A new DLP government will move to immediately enact a comprehensive national Labour Rights legislative compendium which will include the following:

     A Full Employment Rights Act
     An Alternative Disputes Settlement and Arbitration Committee
     A Sexual Harassment in the Workplace Act
     National minimum wages legislation
     Legislation fully recognizing Trade Unions.

    Approval of capital account transactions (page 25)

    Immediately review the current Central Bank procedures for approving capital account transactions with a view to simplifying and speeding up the approval (or denial) process for restricted transactions.

    Port charges (page 33)

    The DLP pledges to immediately re-examine the Port charges with a view to significantly reducing these to manufacturers as they consider them to be a burdensome cost. They say that tonnage dues are charged twice; – on raw materials when imported and again on finished products when being exported.

    Integrity legislation (page 48)

    Immediately introduce integrity legislation requiring

     a declaration of assets by public officials,
     a Code of Conduct for Ministers,
     a new Freedom of Information law,
     amendments to the Defamation laws and
     new constitutional provisions to rationalize the powers of the Prime Minister.

    Health issues (page 11)

    A new DLP Government will immediately embark on a health promotion campaign to sensitize the public to the dangers of unhealthy lifestyles

    ISSUES TO BE DEALT WITH IN FIRST 100 DAYS

    Don’t forget the DLP promises to do the following in the first 100 days

     Introduce the Agriculture Protection Act that will require a 2/3 majority of both houses of parliament for a change of use of land from agriculture.

     Remove VAT from building materials on houses valued up to $400,000.
     convene a National Consultation on Education

  13. fool me once

    The Yes and No Government of Barbados.

    Yes, Ministers will declare their assets. No- they won’t.

    That turnaround took 2 months.

    No Dump, Yes Dump- That 180 degree turnaround took two weeks..

    Yes, Integrity and transparency legislation in 100 days.

    No, now it will take a committee 1,000,000 days to get nothing done.

    Thompy, the ink is not even dry on the ballots and you are no longer the leader we looked up to, just an example for all those who work for you to help themselves to the fatted calf which just happens to be our money, our future, our country.

    Shame

  14. Andrew

    Hants

    How come George Payne now knows how expensive it is to run a constituency office.

    I never heard him complaining when his friend Owen was in power.

  15. littleboy

    Two weeks ago Mia Mottley asked about the cost /gift of the private jet to T&T, and David Thompson gave the answer IN PARLIAMENT.
    Obviously that did not reach BFP ears!!!
    For God’s sake the DLP has been in office for LESS THAN 90 DAYS!!!
    EASE UP AND ALLOW THEM TO FUNCTION!!!!!
    It surely takes TIME to implement projects. Any person with a modicum of governmental (Common??)sense should know that.
    We all have our agendas, but fairness demands that the DLP be allowed to put their boards and other governmental agencies in order first.
    The estimates alone took several working hours. Human beings; not machines make up governments, including the DLP!!!
    BE FAIR (if you know the meaning of the word)!!!
    By persisting with this line of “reasoning” (???) you are demonstrating that you are no better than the Nation and Advocate that you constantly criticize about their lack of balance

  16. Hants

    Littleboy think on this.

    BFP is being fair in demanding that DLP keep the promises they made within the timelines set out by the Manifesto and as stated by the PM and other candidates.

    The DLP made promises with timelines attached and BFP cannot be faulted for asking them to keep their promises.

    I Hants have been begging and pleading with BFP to give the Dems “some slack” and will continue to beg them to give the Dems more time because I really believe what they promised.

    You cannot fault the youngsters at BFP for being agressive in their pursuit of ITAL because BFP helped expose the transgressions of the previous BLP misadministrators.

    The DLP promised and they will deliver.

    Now littleboy, a little single malt scotch or a Banks beer would calm you down.

  17. BFP

    Littleboy said “Two weeks ago Mia Mottley asked about the cost /gift of the private jet to T&T, and David Thompson gave the answer IN PARLIAMENT…”

    ************

    BFP Says,

    Really? Thompson gave the answer in Parliament about the private jet trips to New York City and Trinidad? Great! Where can I find his answer? Who owned the jets? Who paid for them? What was the cost? Are the receipts available for public inspection under freedom of information?

    This is great news!

    So… let’s have the answers to those questions if everything is transparent and known littleboy.

  18. Jerome Hinds

    BFP,

    In light of your last posting……when are you guys going on your sabbatical ?

    You are due one now after nearly 3 years in existence !

    I suggest you take LONG LEAVE……until 2013 !

  19. littleboy

    Please check hansard for the answer.
    Also, remember that there are executive jet services which are provided at the Grantley Adams Airport which in the “down time” can be sourced at the same cost as a regular flight. Ask Sir Charles.
    ……………………….
    Hants
    I am like Owen…only drink “local spirits” with the occasional Vodka (smile)
    ……………………………..
    BFP
    All I ask for is reseanobleness, and certainly the setting up of a “governance unit” is a step in the right direction.
    You must be aware that legislation must be passed in order for “integrity legislation” to become LAW.
    Be reasonable, PLEASE!!!!

  20. passin thru

    Is Hansard available online? Last I saw Hansard was 6 months behind.

    What was Thompson’s answer? Was he speaking of the New York jet trip too? If littleboy knows the answer and is not just shining us on, he should tell.

  21. Linchh

    BFP said:
    Under the existing laws one would have to prove that the gift was given to receive a benefit or consideration and that such benefit or consideration was received.
    ******************************************************
    In other words, under current laws when Leroy Paris or others who do business with the government provide Prime Minister David Thompson with $40,000 of private jet time as a “gift”, there is no requirement for the PM to reveal the gift and no prohibition against him accepting it.
    **************************************************
    This is a lot of cockeyed nonsense that clearly reflects a basic lack of understanding of what legislation governing integrity in public life is all about. And, BTW, BFP how about my quotation from St. Paul?

  22. BFP

    *****************

    BFP says to Linchh

    Really? You mean that such gifts are already prohibited? That a Minister cannot accept a gift from anyone who is doing business with the government? Fantastic!

    Please quote the law and section number verbatim.

  23. passin thru

    BFP, don’t you get it? When David Thompson was talking about passing integrity legislation he didn’t know that it was already passed. He should have listed to Linchh !!!!

    Linchh you are such a joker!

  24. Paradox

    When the present Prime Minister promised to pass Integrity legislation in 100 days, did he say, “Read my lips?”

  25. samizdat

    Lynchh

    You say:

    “Although it is antiquated, there is existing legislation aimed at preventing corruption. Further, BFP’s approach seem to imply that unless there is a specific legal framework there is no basis for doing what is right.”

    Then you quote from Romans.

    In a nutshell, this is your point:

    .

    You’re funny, my friend. A real comedian.

    I’ve noticed you like quotations, so here’s one for you to source and contextualize; it illustrates your attitude perfectly:

    “All is for the best in the best of possible worlds”.

    (Hint: it’s from a book that famously satirizes and highlights the dangers of irresponsible optimism.)

  26. samizdat

    Hmm. Strange.

    For some reason a key part of my post got deleted.

    Here it is again –

    “In a nutshell, this is your point:

    Anti-corruption legislation already exists, but we don’t actually need it since Bible-quoting Christians can safely be relied upon to do the right thing.”

  27. Linchh

    I believe that the passage which I quote, below, was included in one of the documents that David Thompson made available as part of the IIPL initiative that he presented to interested persons. BFP seemed, initially to be more concerned with finding out who authored the documents that analysing their intrinsic content.

    “It will be seen, therefore, that the enactment of integrity legislation is not intended as an imposition of standards and values on public officials, but rather as serving to flesh out those ethical values that we already hold. Thus, it can be accepted that the basic components of a system of public integrity must include:

    legislation which identifies the duties and responsibilities of public officials;

    agencies which establish policies and procedures to implement this legislation; and

    agencies which can investigate complaints about administrative decisions and maladministration.”

    BFP has laboured over what “immediately introduce” means when applied to the subject of IIPL legislation, but anyone with a smattering of commonsense will understand that the real emphasis must be on “introduce”, but then again pedants, of which the BFP discussion is replete may wish, also, to parse “introduce”.

    And to Samizdat, I ask only that you remember that I have already explained that LINCHH has no connection with Barney, blarney, or Muscle Mary. Further, I do not consider that Wikipedia is a proper substitute for reading Voltaire.

    Finally to all who regard me as a Joker, I say that some card games require a full deck, whch some of BFP’s contributors do not seem to have.

  28. BFP

    To Linchh

    Don’t LIE!

    We have been after Thompson to immediately introduce the Ministerial Code that he promised to immediately introduce.

    The Integrity Legislation is something else that he promised in a 100 day time frame.

    Don’t LIE!

    If you intend to continue to tell the same LIE every time you appear on BFP, you will be forcing us to refute you each and every time… and that is causing a lot of work for us.

    It would be much simpler to put you on permanent moderation so we get a look at what you are writing before you post the SAME LIE here again.

    Fair warning Mr. Blind DLP Supporter.

  29. Jerome Hinds

    BFP,

    Many of your contributors are recognising that you ( in some instances ) have a difficulty with DEFINITION & INTERPRETATION !

    In light of your last postings on this subject……when are you guys going on your sabbatical ?

    You are due one now after nearly 3 years in existence !

    I suggest you take LONG LEAVE……until the end of 2013 !

  30. BFP

    The LIE told by Lynchh is…

    “BFP has laboured over what “immediately introduce” means when applied to the subject of IIPL legislation…”

    See… Lynchh is falsely saying that our demand for “immediate” is linked to the legislation.

    Our use of the word “immediate” is linked to the Ministerial Code and is the same word that Thompson used as in “immediately upon forming a government”

    The 100 days was a longer time period for legislation.

    Now quit p’ing us off, Lynchh!

  31. littleboy

    Did anybody notice that BFP did not bend to my request for “reasonableness”? ??
    Are we to assume that being reasonable is outside of their sphere???
    Can we agree then that their agenda is more important than being reasonable???

  32. Anonymous

    You naive lot! You really thought there was going to be a big change after January 15th. – told you so – but that happens when a political party that has been out of power for near a generation (in reletive terms) and targets the young people in their campaign.

    65 days and counting – REMEMBER (he’s a lawyer) he only has to ‘introduce’ it (like as in a draft) not ‘legislate’ it.

  33. Tony Hall

    BFP,
    I know you mean well but you obviously don’t understand the runnings of a government. Integrity legislation is good but it just don’t happen like that. Such has to go through so many channels vis-a-vis technocrats. Drafts and re-drafts have to be done, then the legal eagles have to review and look at potential loopholes, etc. These things take time and because PM Thomspon said set a 100 day time you actually took what he said literally. Come on. Be real!

  34. BFP

    To Tony Hall..

    BFP says,

    We didn’t say 100 days – Thompson and the DLP did. How many days are you willing to give them? 200? 300? 1000?

    When you make up your mind to impose any deadline – even the one given by Thompson – please let us know.

    As to the Ministerial Code, this is NOT legislation. It just has to be adopted by Cabinet and declared. Should take about 10 minutes and Thompson promised it “immediately” upon forming a government.

    Why are you willing to let this slide? How many days will you give Thompson and the DLP?

    If “immediately” was unreasonable, it was Thompson who was being unreasonable, not the citizens who believed in him.

  35. Tell me Why

    Integrity legislation is good but it just don’t happen like that. Such has to go through so many channels vis-a-vis technocrats.
    …………………………………………………………………………………..
    Channels what!!!!!!. Integrity is simple to to be legislated. It mean:
    Don’t put your hand in the cookie jar
    Don’t tek ‘gifts’ from the business you are buying from and ‘hide’
    Don’t order some of you and some for ‘me’ with taxpayers money.
    Don’t say one thing wid one mouth and do the opposite.
    Don’t promise something that you can’t fulfill.
    Don’t take chances wid taxpayers money.
    ……and most of all Shut yuh mout – stop wid de daily TV presentation like you is an actor, stop de criticising cause’ de people taking stock of all yuh mouting and gon pelt dem right back in yuh face, do de work. Keep Barbados movin’.

  36. young one

    so tony hall, what are you saying? that you have to look for the underlying mean to everything that the PM says?

  37. Tell me Why

    Wid Transparency. Plain and simple, let it be ‘see thru’ – not ESAF product. But evaybody should be able to see from the top, bottom and de sides and also be able to have back-ups, –
    tenders, approval, receipts, invoices, payments and audits.
    ….and Presto, everybody will happy, the country will be able say that we have honest workers and politicians.

  38. reality check

    a dutiful civil service would already have draft legislation in front of the minister for their consideration and a fast track proposal ready to go.

    As we all know some of the civil service in Barbados has been complicit in the lethargy and corruption for the past 14 years.

    This is where, as part of the accountability and transparency, the cabinet ( without civil service ) needs to instruct them what has to be done with a time limit and job dismissals if not performed. After all we expect time limits and action points from all levels of the civil service to be implemented in our ITAL.

    If they don’t grab the bulls by the horn they will be finished as a party. The people need to see real and immedaiet change mot more discussion and studies.

  39. J C

    Easily said than done. Laws have to be made carefully. It would be great to just put that law there. And I hope it come before the year is over.
    Remember even some of our laws can be challenge in a court of law. Remember that during the 2nd term of the BLP Glyne Clarke PLace a Bill to acuired land for a road to the beach in St Peter. Th ereal problem was there was a beach access road that run between Pizza Man Doc and Jordan’s Supermarket behind that same land. To prevent embaristment to government, Liz change it. Laws are funny………but he said he would bring them …. I hope he do or he will have the Faith of Goerge Bush Sr, only 1 term in office as head of state

  40. ROBOT

    reality check seems not to be in touch with reality
    i disagree with his submission and would say that he needs to stop his speculating and come with facts

    i find that we in barbados suffer from loose talk syndrome: we say anything about anybody without having a modicum of evidence except that which exist in our minds. we hear many examples on the call in shows, the rum shop , the street corner, the cocktail parties and even in the house of assembly. people say things about other people which have no connection to the truth and believe these things

  41. Hants

    reality check says
    “fast track proposal ready to go.”

    The only fast track in Barbados is Bushy park.

    Everything else is basically Go as you please.

    Thats what makes Barbados great. People just chillin.

  42. Anonymous

    You cannot just dismiss Civil Servants just like that. Are you crazy – actually their jobs are as secure as crazy glue – that’s why Politicians/Ministers cannot get things done but they get the blame.

    You naive lot at BFP still have not realised that. Its the civil service that has us all by the short & curlies, and they have been so for much, much longer than 14 years so wake up and smell the coffee.

  43. Brutus

    We have enough ineffective or improperly drafted legislation on the books already, so let’s not add another piece. The public needs the opportunity to review and comment on the legislation so that we are sure that it will serve its intended purpose and that the loopholes are plugged. This legislation could be the beginning of a revolution in governance in Barbados so we must get it right.

    We must be careful as well that the rights of public officials and other affected parties are adequately protected .

    Having said that we can not allow them to take several months to bring it to Parliament and get it passed. I suspect that the question of declaration of assets will be a stumbling block. Presumably the intention is that assets will be declared to an appointed body and will be subject to audit. It is doubtful that the public will have access to this information, so many people may be disappointed if that is what they are expecting.

    The Ministerial code already exists and should therefore be instantly brought into effect.

    On a related matter, election returns are now being published showing the amounts spent by election candidates. Much of the spending would have been at party level, so can someone explain to us if and how the costs of a million dollar media campaign by either party get reflected in the election returns of individual candidates?

  44. Time will Tell

    FACT IS STRANGER THAN FICTION.

    All along we assumed that CLICO’s jet provided travel for the PM to both New York and Trinidad. Well I was informed yesterday that Kyffin Simpson, (Simpson Motors) provided the trip to New York and CLICO’s jet to Trinidad.

    Amazingly there were both his legal clients.

    BFP. Your new PM is really TRANSPARENT we can all see right through him……

  45. Maat

    Everyone that voted for the Dems did not care about integrity legislation and many would disagree that it was this promise more than any other that swung the vote.

    We all heard what we wanted to hear in the election campaign. The willing unemployed wanted to hear about employment, the homeless about housing, the sick about health care and so on.

    Us at BFP wanted to hear honesty and integrity. How would we respond if the PM made a public statement saying he made a mistake in promising immediate or 100 day promises, but that he would wish to extend his timeline for a few more months with regard to some or much of what was pledged?.

    On the other hand, what can we do for the next five years if Thompson does that which George Bush has done to US international relations, the US Constitution and the US economy?. Getting the finger is painful.

    Peace

  46. samizdat

    ‘but anyone with a smattering of commonsense will understand that the real emphasis must be on “introduce”, but then again pedants, of which the BFP discussion is replete may wish, also, to parse “introduce”.’

    Hey Linchh, are you a civil servant by any chance?

    I ask because your painfully stiff and convoluted prose style makes you sound something like that guy from ‘Yes Minister’. Like him, you like to play with language (except you’re not very good at it)) in an effort to conceal the truth rather than reveal it.

    (Incidentally, if you must use a fussy word like “replete” in a sentence, do try and use it with the correct preposition next time – ok Sir Humphrey?)

    As for my Candide quote – come on man, don’t be ashamed. Admit you googled it!

  47. Anonymous

    Civil servants run the country not Ministers (Politicians), right?

    Yes, Minister.

  48. Anonymous

    … but am I (as Prime Mimister) also Minister of the Civil Service, and therefore their boss so what I say goes?

    Yes, Prime Minister,
    (with a knowing smile that you are living in a fool’s paradise)

  49. Anonymous

    Cival servants have been hiding their actions or non-actions (and any unusual dealings) behind the Ministers (Politicians), right?

    Yes, Minister.

  50. Linchh

    BFP
    March 20, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    To Linchh

    Don’t LIE!

    We have been after Thompson to immediately introduce the Ministerial Code that he promised to immediately introduce.

    The Integrity Legislation is something else that he promised in a 100 day time frame.

    Don’t LIE!

    If you intend to continue to tell the same LIE every time you appear on BFP, you will be forcing us to refute you each and every time… and that is causing a lot of work for us.

    It would be much simpler to put you on permanent moderation so we get a look at what you are writing before you post the SAME LIE here again.

    Fair warning Mr. Blind DLP Supporter.
    **************************************************
    BFP, you won’t have to put me on moderation! This will be my final contribution to your blog. It served my purpose for a time, “but I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep”. Incidentally, unlike Robert Frosts’ woods, which were “lovely, dark, and deep”, BFP’s contributions have become unlovely, sinister, but shallow. And you cannot even get my name right!

    And to Samizdat, I shall simply say that I WAS once a civil serpent, but my venom has long gone! Incidentally, when I read Voltaire, your father had probably not yet been born.

    BTW, just because you googled to get the source of my quote of the paraphrase from “Julius Caesar” does not mean that everybody uses internet searches to score brownie points. 36 years ago when I completed a PhD in two years, there was no internet, and one of the tests of a proper researcher was how to identify published sources and use them effectively.

    Just one more point, identities may be assumed for the purpose at hand, but you seem to believe in Santa Claus. So it’s foolish to look for the person behind the words. BTW do you think that my sounding like “Sir Humphrey” was accidental?

    So finally I say, to all, get a life, even if it’s not a good one! Goodbye, good luck (if you can recognise it) and goodnight, nurse!

  51. 41

    Yes, Minister.

  52. Hants

    Linchh says

    “This will be my final contribution to your blog. It served my purpose for a time, “but I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep”.

    Sorry you have made that choice because you were making some valid points.

    BFP appears to comprise mainly of “youngsters who quite rightly are demanding that the DLP keep their promises to the minute of the hour of the day.
    After all they have said about the BLP on this blog since inception, they would lose all credibility if they demanded less from the DLP.

    Those of us who are DLP supporters like myself are inclined to give the Dems time and leeway to implement their promises because we believe in David Thompson,his Ministers and the party.

    Linchh given that you are likely to be at least 36 plus16 plus6 since you got your PHD 36 years ago,
    You can forgive the BFP youngsters for their unrelenting demands that promises made must be kept.

    BFP will become more mellow when they reach our age especially if they continue to hit the likkers on friday nights.

    For now, the enthuiasm of “youth” demanding Integrity and accountability in Government in Barbados is refreshing.

    ******************************

    BFP says,

    We are young, yes. Stupid, no.

    It would be so easy to adopt the Ministerial Code as the DLP promised. Thompson is obviously having problems with his people.

  53. Jerome Hinds

    BFP says,

    We are young, yes. Stupid, no.

    It would be so easy to adopt the Ministerial Code as the DLP promised. Thompson is obviously having problems with his people.
    *************************************************

    And you are having ( and had problems ) with Marcus…….and his not producing the Mone Laundering story !

  54. Hants

    BFP in reply to my comments says,

    “We are young, yes. Stupid, no.”

    I hope you are not implying that I Hants think you are stupid.

    Note that I wrote.

    “For now, the enthuiasm of “youth” demanding Integrity and accountability in Government in Barbados is refreshing.” that was meant to be a compliment.

    I continue to be a BFP and a loyal DLP supporter who will continue to beg BFP to give the Dems a little extra time.

  55. Rumplestilskin

    Integrity? See this youtube analysis:

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