Peter Wickham: “BLP and Owen Arthur…Created A Climate Of Oppression…”

Peter Wickham Says What He Thinks And The Nation Actually Prints It!

Although I firmly believe that the BLP and Owen Arthur served this country well, I am also convinced that more recently they created a climate of oppression (as was the case in 1986) that made people like me uncomfortable…

To be sure, this is not intended to be a partisan statement on my part, but is instead an indication that I now agree with a comment that was made by a member of the CBC staff to me recently. He said: “I prefer to err on the side of the BLP, since I have always found that the Dems are less vindictive.”

Peter Wickham in the Nation News article: Climate of Oppression

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Barbados News Media Is Like An Abused Woman…

Friends, did you ever know an abused woman who had forgotten what it was like to live with a man who didn’t belittle or hit her? Did you ever know a woman who was always afraid of not pleasing her man?

Barbados and the Barbados media are like an abused woman who has just been set free from a brute of a husband.

Oh, the marriage started out just fine, but as the years went by a dark side of the BLP and Owen Arthur came to the forefront. The news media became afraid to print the truth. They started self-censoring and some of the so-called “journalists” even threw their lot in with the apparent victors – Prime Minister Arthur and the BLP.

Now that BLP government has gone down in flames and the Barbados news media has been exposed as having zero credibility, there will be a period before journalists truly accept the fact that they gained much freedom on the day that the BLP was tossed by voters – no thanks to the lapdog news media itself, of course.

Albert Brandford & The “Inbred” Insult To Prime Minister Thompson

In a second piece in the Nation News, this time a letter to the editor, Peter Wickham points out that no journalist would have dared to attack Owen Arthur the way that Albert Brandford recently used the word “inbred” in an attack against Prime Minister David Thompson.

Once again, Peter Wickham’s letter highlights that things have changed under the new government, and he criticizes the Nation News for its conduct during the recent election – but this is only a start at what is needed. (See The Nation News: Unfortunate words by Nation’s Brandford)

The Barbados News Media Must Declare Itself Guilty As The First Step To Gaining Credibility With The Public

If the Barbados news media think that they can now hold their heads up and instantly regain their credibility with the public, they will be sorely disappointed. Even if they now provide effective and balanced journalism in respect of the new government – that proves nothing. As Peter Wickham’s friend pointed out, the DLP are less vindictive than the BLP, and I believe that the current government will not seek to retaliate against its critics in the news media: at least not for the first term because they do not wish to be tarred with the same brush as the previous BLP government.

There needs to be a whole lot more of public mea maxima culpa introspection by the Barbados media.

That the Nation News would publish Peter Wickham’s article and his letter to the editor is a small, positive, sign – but it is nothing compared with what the Bajan public deserves.

So here is a place for the Nation News to start on the path to recovery of its credibility…

Let’s see if The Nation has the decency and courage to investigate the Ronja Juman story – because every day that the newspaper refuses to acknowledge the need for a public enquiry on the Juman matter is further proof that the Bajan news media cannot be trusted by citizens.

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49 responses to “Peter Wickham: “BLP and Owen Arthur…Created A Climate Of Oppression…”

  1. reality check

    “Although I firmly believe that the BLP and Owen Arthur served this country well, I am also convinced that more recently they created a climate of oppression (as was the case in 1986) that made people like me uncomfortable”

    Does this man ever have to listen to what he writes? Maybe he should have to have it played back to him like waterboarding at Guantanamo.

    How can we have no accountability, transparency, incredible “tiefing”, travesties of justice time after time, well known victimizations, early morning alcohol induced cuss outs, astronomical debt and then have someone say the leader served the country well?

    Owen Arthurs regime may have started on the right foot but he soon became the worst abuser of power that Barbados has ever seen. Full stop.

  2. Victor Callender

    Owen Arthur became radically power hungry when he attempted to make Barbados a one party state. Mr Arthur was filled with vengeance when as a BLP back bencher and one of the “Three Blind mice” he could not earn a respectable living in Barbados. Henry Forde’s graciousness or lack of judgement, and the malfeasance of Lloyd Erskine Sandiford catapulted Arthur into power. Mr Arthur tasting the sweetness of power, never again wanted to be without the ultimate aphrodisiac. Hence, Arthur corrupted his political base with the poison of over indulgence and “The holier than thou syndrome.” It took the wisdom of the bajan populace to turn back perhaps one of the most contemptible and outrageous stints of power in recent Barbados history.

  3. Bimbro

    Yesterday, it was this!

    Barbados can only go forward if no one is left behind.

    Peace

    **************************

    Bimbro

    Only a Bajan could have written this!!!! – by, Royal Rumple, above!!!!

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    Bimbro
    January 30, 2008 at 8:20 am

    Sorry, written by, ‘Rumplestilskin’!!!!

    dese names!!!!

    ***********************************

    Now, today, it’s this!

    “I prefer to err on the side of the BLP, since I have always found that the Dems are less vindictive.”

    by, Peter Wickham

    *****************************

    Perhaps, I’m simply not Barbadian, enough but that second example does n’t make any sense, either! Whilst agreeing with the basic points which he’s making, I do wish that these ‘esteemed’ writers would take more time over expressing their opinions and get it right!!!!

  4. Bimbro

    Here’s another, example!!!! Must be that ‘idiosyncratic, Barbadianspeke’ to which I referred, before!!!!

    ********************************

    There are two levels of accused in our justice system – those who can afford to pay off the victims and those who cannot.

  5. goldenbead

    Why hasn’t the Nation website been updated since Monday? Is that what you are seeing when you log in there or is it a problem on my end with the internet?

    *********

    BFP says,

    The problem is on your end. Hit ‘refresh’ or dump your cookies and get a new one for the Nation

  6. Bajanboy

    I wonder if the DLP is going to investigate DPP Leacock.

  7. Tony Hall

    Reality Check,
    I understand what Peter Wickham is saying. Whether you are a BLP or DLP supporter you must admit that the Owen Arthur administration did well for Barbados but in the 3rd term they became arrogant and oppressive. What I have noticed is that the BLP yardfowls who work in the various agencies tend to have their co-workers living in fear, afraid to speak out. That has always been the problem.

  8. Hants

    I did not believe that journalist were so afraid of Arthur but now we are hearing this from credible sources.

    Now even Arthur’s own BLPites are attacking him notably Truss and Griffith.

    It is profoundly stupid for a Prime Minister or a Government to surpress Press freedom and the only logical reason would be to hide wrongdoing from the public.

    You can sue for slander and defamation in Barbados so there is no reason for honest politicians to fear the press.

    Now we know why the NEW BLP Leader wants to ban blogs.

    BFP…..You should be proud of your success in providing a forum for free speech.

    Note that Peter Wickham used BFP to publish an article when he was not allowed to do so in the Nation.

  9. reality check

    some interesting topics for UWI psychology and sociology classes

    Does the “Stockholm Syndrome” pervade Barbadian life?

    Is willful blindness a necessity in a small society?

    To what extent has the normal checks and balances of a Westminster Parliamentary system
    been eroded by tribal politics where leaders are elevated to King status?

    just asking?

  10. Hants

    http://www.nationnews.com/story/345845391513435.php

    LEAVE VAT!

    The economist noted that the expansionary policies of the former [Owen Arthur] administration had led to “overheating” of the economy, which he said was caused by bunching of capital projects, heavy expenditure on Cricket World Cup and what he termed high levels of “conspicuous consumption”.

    BFP…and fellow bloggers, it is amazing how many “experts” are now attacking the policies of Owen Arthur.
    Is it that these people felt “threatened”or were they “silent” because they were “Included”.

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  12. Time will Tell

    Victor Callender
    January 31, 2008 at 7:16 am

    Owen Arthur became radically power hungry when he attempted to make Barbados a one party state. Mr Arthur was filled with vengeance when as a BLP back bencher and one of the “Three Blind mice” he could not earn a respectable living in Barbados

    Vicky,

    There you go again.

    Pretending to expound on character, judgment and expose incompetence. Do you really take the time to proof read the “hogwash” you propagate. You lack credibility every time you exercise your inability to be objective. So we loss. Fine ! now move on you sorry pathetic bastard.

    You are faced with bigger issues ahead of you. READ THE NEWS. This wretched government of yours, have not the slightest idea where to start; Strategic – Tactical or Premeditated. Why don’t you volunteer some of that intellectual presbyobic nonsense to Thompson.

  13. Anonymous

    Hants, no fair. Dr. Michael Howard was the only one to voice a different opinion on the way things were being done by the previous gov’t during its tenure.
    But it does seem as though people are crawling out of the woodwork all of a sudden. I think they all mean well since we all do have to live here.

  14. sharky

    All the Griffiths and Truss are not real men they are nice ,for not speaking out before. All of them kept silent because they all wanted a piece of owen’s pie.SHAME on all the BLP yardfowls

  15. sharky

    I really mean mice not nice.sorry

  16. Rumplestilskin

    ”But it does seem as though people are crawling out of the woodwork all of a sudden”

    You noticed it too , huh?

    As Margaret Thatcher noted ‘It’s a funny old world’ or some such.

    One can be king one day and the punching bag the next.

    Because people ask for what they want to hear one day, ignore the naysayers, but when things get rough, the prince charming becomes the wicked wizard.

    Some only fool themselves.

    Reality is always there, but is open to interpretation.

    It’s just that some ‘interpret’ different than others.

    Peace.

  17. Victor Callender

    Time will Tell
    January 31, 2008 at 8:32 pm
    Victor Callender
    January 31, 2008 at 7:16 am

    Owen Arthur became radically power hungry when he attempted to make Barbados a one party state. Mr Arthur was filled with vengeance when as a BLP back bencher and one of the “Three Blind mice” he could not earn a respectable living in Barbados

    Vicky,

    There you go again.

    Pretending to expound on character, judgment and expose incompetence. Do you really take the time to proof read the “hogwash” you propagate. You lack credibility every time you exercise your inability to be objective. So we loss. Fine ! now move on you sorry pathetic bastard.

    You are faced with bigger issues ahead of you. READ THE NEWS. This wretched government of yours, have not the slightest idea where to start; Strategic – Tactical or Premeditated. Why don’t you volunteer some of that intellectual presbyobic nonsense to Thompson.

    Time will Tell or whoever you are, you are a migrant from commonsense. You attempt to wear your education on your sleeve, but you are probably blessed with paper intellect, but pigmy commonsense. Istead of trying to surveil these blogs masquerading as some pseudo intellectual, you should offer temperance and intellectual discretion. Although I would like to engage you in some intellectual tapestry, I have neither the time nor the patience for your mental midgetry. I would rather spend time in useful dialogue, with folks who have something to say. It’s people like you that promote a good argument for legalize abortion, and Dr Jack kevorkian. If someone would have aborted you, the insidious nonsense you write would not clog these blogs.

  18. Anonymous

    Victor, those were some harsh things to say about someone you do not know. Cool it.

  19. Victor Callender

    Anonymous
    February 1, 2008 at 2:03 am
    Victor, those were some harsh things to say about someone you do not know. Cool it.

    Don’t tell me to cool it. I never go to a gun fight with an ice pick. Someone attempts to bastardise me as this nom de plume “Time will Tell” did requires my verbal retaliation. Having been an ex- Us Army guy, I never saw a fight that I did not want to get involved in(Smile).

  20. Time will Tell

    Victor Callender
    February 1, 2008 at 3:50 am said…….

    (1) migrant from commonsense
    (2) wear your education on your sleeve
    (3) paper intellect
    (4) pigmy commonsense
    (5) your mental midgetry
    (6) legalize abortion
    (7) Dr Jack kevorkian

    Your Summation;

    Istead of trying to surveil these blogs , you should offer temperance and intellectual discretion. Although I would like to engage you in some intellectual tapestry, I have neither the time nor the patience for.

    I would rather spend time in useful dialogue, with folks who have something to say.

    Time will Tell. said…….
    My Summation. and I quote,

    “Pretending to expound on character, judgment and expose incompetence. Do you really take the time to proof read the “hogwash” you propagate. You lack credibility every time you exercise your inability to be objective. So we loss. Fine ! now move on you sorry pathetic bastard”

    There you have it ….That’s my point….

    “If you think education is expensive, try ignorance”
    Derek Bok

    Keep talking……

    Time will Tell…..Esq

  21. Bimbro

    Victor Callender
    February 1, 2008 at 3:50 am
    Anonymous
    February 1, 2008 at 2:03 am
    Victor, those were some harsh things to say about someone you do not know. Cool it.

    Don’t tell me to cool it. I never go to a gun fight with an ice pick. Someone attempts to bastardise me as this nom de plume “Time will Tell” did requires my verbal retaliation. Having been an ex- Us Army guy, I never saw a fight that I did not want to get involved in(Smile).

    *************************************

    Well, Victor, from the harshess of your abuse I had to wonder if you were n’t Arthur, himself!!

    So, what makes YOU such an authority, more than Vicky?!!!!

  22. Rumplestilskin

    ”Whether you are a BLP or DLP supporter you must admit that the Owen Arthur administration did well for Barbados”

    But, they have also put us in a debt hole right before a major recession.

    One can always borrow and spend to paint things over, but the underlying economic earnings from internal industry, form exports, from services, are what count.

    As it is, much of the last five years was borrowing above our heads. Now we have little ‘borrow-ability’ left just when we need the capability the most, as a last resort.

    Not so clever.

    Peace.

  23. Rumplestilskin

    And by the way, this is NOT hindsight. Check this blog and you will see the warnings from well over a year ago.

    *************

    BFP says,

    Yup, Rump…

    We are in serious trouble. We haven’t seen anything yet… 2009 is going to be the year all them chickens need a place to roost and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    And the joke is… Mia and her gang who did the deed will sit smuggly in Parliament and say “Everyting be fine when we were the gov’mnt”

  24. Bimbro

    Rumple, this, also, is n’t so clever, from you!!!!

    “form exports”,

    ****************************

    How about taking your time and reading over what you’ve written before submitting it!! I’m tired of having to read something 4 times before I can decipher what the **** it is some of you guys are going-on, about!!!!

    And who said anything about a recession!! If you were a responsible citizen that’s the last word you should ever wish to utter!!!!

  25. Anonymous

    I get so fed up when I hear people who you expect to excercise some degree of logic or even plain common sense like peter wickham and others keep repeating this mantra :”that owen arthur did good for this country”.

    Where is the evidence of it.

    Are bajans so guillible?

    Are we really like sheep that we believe anything someone with a title and who can string some words together – say?

    Just last night news on CBC shows us the destruction wrought by Owen Arthur.
    He filled up every ministry with consultants who had contributed nothing,there was no job description, no sustantive contract,no report prepared,but yet they all got fat pay cheques at the end of the month.

    Taxpayers monies mind you.

    Owen presided over hundreds of millions of dollars cost over runs and the DLP government is still finding out more .g the new Crab Hill police station,St Leonard Shool etc – and you tell me ‘he ran this country well?’

    What about the oppression and the suppression of the media and simple bajans who could not speak out about the ills in society?

    What about the countless persons who were denied jobs or were denied the opportunity to get contracts or even be allowed to bid on contracts?

    What about those civil servants who were passed over though they were qualified for the job,and the job given to a BLP yardfowl who was brought in at high pay yet didnot have a clue about what the job entailed?

    Look I am going to get off this topic becuase this only causing me to see red when I hear bajans repeating the crap I read above that:”we must agree that arthur did a lot of good for this country.”

    That’s probably why Mia did not include hin in her shadow cabinet,she probaly had enough of his good deeds.

  26. Time will Tell

    Victor Callender
    January 31, 2008 at 7:16 am

    Wrote……..

    Henry Forde’s graciousness or lack of judgement, and the malfeasance of Lloyd Erskine Sandiford catapulted Arthur into power. Mr Arthur tasting the sweetness of power, never again wanted to be without the ultimate aphrodisiac.
    ***************************************

    I have read this crap (9) nine times, over and over and over and over again.

    Can someone gifted in the art of braille, deafmutism, retardation or demurral behavior slowly explain this to me ???????????

    I have not been privilege enough to attend the “ex- Us Army guy” School of Inteligência.

    But I’m working on it.

    Last night I slept at a Holiday Inn!!!!!!!!!!

    Time will Tell……Esq

  27. Anonymous

    A bit off topic but I note Kellman get a pick. I like this move by Thompson no ministry but recognition of Kellman senior parliamentary background.

    Kellman has to produce or shut up. If his running of George Pilgrim election bid is anything to go by I dont expect much from Kellman.
    We will continue to hear his non stop, egotistical self praise and how Barbados can only develop if St.Lucy develops , new airport for St.Lucy ad naseum. Go ahead Kellman we are watching you. Seal that fishing deal. Show us how good you say you are.

    Reading my old election papers I read Barney Lynch call Kellman the biggest political clown in the house. You get the last laugh Kellman. You in he out.

  28. Time will Tell

    The following article represents my ongoing disdain for the heedless chatter within the ranks of the DLP camp. With this new “Key role for Kellman” how better to prove my previous contentions that they are neither ready, armed or experienced in anything other than verbal abuse.

    Kellman’s appointment to such a vital and magnanimous undertaking is tantamount to the myopic-ness that lies ahead.

    Where is experience and judgment when we most need it. Only, TIME WILL TELL….sic
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    Laying Tracks for Bajan Goutis to Run
    Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2008

    By Stephen Kangal
    January 15, 2008

    It must be a source of enormous embarrassment to us in T&T that the Manning Administration should spend our taxpayers money to jointly sponsor in collaboration with the United Nations Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf a seminar. It will outline the procedures for the delimitation of the maritime boundaries of the extended continental shelf (Newsday 14 Jan., p. 15) between national and international jurisdiction located beyond 200 nautical miles (limits of the Exclusive Economic Zone). This is a clear case of stupid T&T paying for the laying of tracks for smart Bajan agoutis to run on.

    I am submitting again, as I have done regularly on the media post 11 April 2006, without fear of any contradiction whatsoever that resulting from the Award of the Ad Hoc Arbitral Tribunal and not the Permanent Court of Arbitration in the Hague as stated, handed down on 11 April 2006, T&T no longer exercises any rights over resources of an extended continental shelf in any part of the maritime areas appertaining to T&T by the law of the sea. Why this Seminar in T&T therefore?

    Accordingly providing and paying for the holding of a platform at the Crown Plaza for the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf beyond 200 miles to assist inter alia, T&T to submit a potential claim to be ratified by this Commission relating to extended continental shelf claims is an exercise in futility if not propaganda and sheer stupidity from a T&T perspective. This seminar is violates our national interest.

    I can understand why potential extended continental states such as Barbados, Guyana, Suriname etc will want to attend the seminar at T&T expense. But T&T is not in the category of states capable of making any potential continental shelf claim beyond 200 miles.

    Former Attorney-General John Jeremie in his Senate Statement of the day that the judgment was released bequeathed us a legacy of deception and deliberate misrepresentation when he misled the Senate. He deceived us into believing until today that the Tribunal had allocated to us a high seas corridor to the Atlantic, continental shelf rights beyond 200 nautical miles and had ruled in T&T’s favour in the dispute.

    Whatever extended continental shelf rights (beyond 200 miles) we possessed and exercised jurisdiction and control over for more than twenty four years based on the provisions of the 1990 T&T/ Venezuela Delimitation Agreement ( up to the terminal Point 22 of that Agreement was 300 nautical miles from T&T) were taken away from us arbitrarily by the contaminated Judgment issued by the said Arbitral Tribunal.

    Accordingly T&T is now both shelf-locked and zone-locked by Barbados to the North and Venezuela to the South because at no point can it ever extend its maritime claims beyond 200 nautical miles.

    What the Seminar will in fact succeed in achieving is to provide Barbados with all the technical and legal expertise and information that will now enable that country to develop and submit to the UN Commission on The Limits of the Continental Shelf a very strong and irrefutable claim designed to exercise control over hydrocarbon-bearing submarine areas that were formerly clearly under the maritime jurisdiction and control of T&T.

    Geologically speaking Barbados’ continental shelf (coral formation) stops or breaks very near to its coasts (the natural prolongation principle). Barbados suffers from what the Tribunal would term “a fundamental natural geological discontinuity” that separates the coral continental shelf of Barbados from the sedimentary measures of Venezuela and Trinidad and Tobago.

    The submarine areas that Barbados will be targeting in its claim to the UN Commission is in fact and from a geological viewpoint the continuation of the natural sedimentary prolongation (continental shelf) of both Venezuela and T&T and not of Barbados. So that the Government of T&T is paying money to host a Seminar at the Crowne Plaza to enable technocrats from Barbados to consolidate, strengthen and perform the final rites in their case for taking over our extended shelf resources (Hydrocarbons and metallic nodules) and legitimately claiming them as its own maritime patrimony.
    Shades of the Sparrow calypso.

    The attached Map V shows the terminal point 11 (200 nautical miles from T&T) of the TT/Barbados Maritime Boundary fixed by the Arbitral Tribunal.

    TT/Barbados Maritime Boundary fixed by the Arbitral Tribunal

    http://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/selfnews/viewnews.cgi?newsid1200374965,1391,.shtml

  29. frankology

    I am hoping Kellman receive monetary rewards instead of paper talk. It look that Kellman is not welcomed in Parliament, thus the reason of giving him something to do far from the Lower House.

    I am not in favour of this last minute “pork barrel’ scenario dished out to a ‘four time parliamentarian’.

  30. Bajan to de Bone

    Much as I like Kelly, I’m afraid I have to agree with frankology on this one.

    First thing being electable (4 times in Kelly’s case) does not make one a good negotiator. In the case of the fishing agreement my understanding is that the only think holding it up now are (more) reports of fishing stock counts requested by the Tobagonians. So I don’t know how much negotiating there is left to do.

    Maritime delimitation is another matter. This is a highly technical matter and although our other Caribbean neighbours are not likely to be as hostile as Trinidad given the landmark UNCLOS ruling in Barbados’ favour and they may go with the median line approach successfully argued by Mia Mottley and Sir Henry Forde in the Trinidad case, I can’t help but wonder whether Kelly is not being set up.

    I wish Kelly well. God don’t like ugly.

  31. Sargeant

    Ezra Alleyne in his column today accused the CBC of news censorship. Wherever did they get that idea?

  32. Time will Tell

    The anticipated negotiations between Barbados and Trinidad will be thee most important bilateral issue within Caricom. One must cleverly admit, the BLP outwitted Trinidad & Tobago into arbitration which resulted in the establishment of Barbados’s demarcation line, in order to take full advantage of the economic continental shelf.

    Thank You Owen.
    Vision – Leadership – Strategic and Tactical astuteness at work.

    (Stop talking in class and pay attention Victor)

    This precedent was fuel by the speculation that large deposits of both natural gas (Hydrocarbons and metallic nodules) and carbon deposits were within our reach. Covertly and brilliantly masked as, defining our maritime fishing boundaries.

    The very thought that our nations most singular economic future prospect lies within such imminent negotiations, one must distressingly ask . Denis Kellman ?

    To paraphrase Bajan to de Bone and Frankology ” I can’t help but wonder whether Kelly is not being set up”

    However this ends, only Time will Tell.

  33. Sargeant

    In today’s Nation there is an article by Tony Best where one of the officials at UWI denies a connection between the University and the CHAPO poll. The Vice Chancellor Mr. Nigel Harris says “What they are doing, they are doing as an independent entity. Certainly, we have to separate these endeavours from the university. Our university officially, absolutely does not (get involved in polling). As a matter of policy, I certainly would not want the university as a university to be involved in any politics or political polling or other political activity.”
    In the lead up to the election when the results of the poll was the subject of much speculation and the relationship between the principals of CHAPO and the UWI was in the news we didn’t hear one word from UWI nada, not a pip. If the University was so concerned why didn’t they provide this information earlier? They now have the audacity to attempt to wash their hands off the whole affair. Bajans always pride themselves on their intelligence and common sense yet the people who are supposed to be the leaders in the country who control the reins of gov’t, industry and education i.e. the politicians, the businessmen and the academics think that we are a bunch of idiots.

  34. Anon

    There is no mention of George Belle’s name in the story. Tony Best covering up for his BLP comrade. Belle is the real big culprit not Boxhill. I believe Boxhill was used. It was Belle who arrogantly told us CHAPO was a university project.
    Belle was all over televsion with cranky Frank Alleyne telling us why his reverse swing poll was credible. Belle and Frank Alleyne two jokers masquerading as academics. I wont be surprised if those two names surface in the plethora of consultants Owen the dictator recruited.

  35. Rumplestilskin

    Bimbro noted ”And who said anything about a recession!! If you were a responsible citizen that’s the last word you should ever wish to utter!!!!”

    But, Bimbro lad, what you want us to do, nuh?

    Hide we heads in de sand and pretend dat dis ain happenin’?

    De Amurcans ony now got a idea dat dem in trouble, tanx to de mortgage crisis and alla dem war money gettin’ spend.

    A responsibul citizen does hide de trute?

    Hex cuse me, but I did tink dat wunna wud see dat de trute shall set we free?

    By de way laddie, what is a responsible citizen, according to a lad residing in the United Kingdom?

    If you let us know that, then I shall be happy to refrain from uttering such stir causing words as the big ‘r’, recession that is, not bajanism.

    Jolly good, don’t you think, laddie?

    Peace

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  37. Time will Tell

    The bilious rancor within the ranks of the BFP bogglers spectacularly unravels minute by minute. It has become fascinating to observe the asinine back pedaling over the last few weeks. Coupled with the perilous refrain “ Bajans aren’t stupid” makes one wonders, “how stupid Bajans really are”. No pun intended.

    With no forethought of the young impressionable minds, you presumptuously fabricate propaganda day after day with no room for fact checking, our even the slightest caution-able question before propagating these lies. What a travesty you perpetuate upon the youth.

    So, to counteract your stupendous nonsense I will openly invite any and all non biased parties to fact-check the following list. Remember the operative word is fact.

    Top 10 Bullshit Stories Count Down

    10 Hardwood Housing Scandal
    9 BLP Candidate Griffith Is Part Of The Abortion Industry
    8 Mottley, Castro, Chavez All Agree – Citizen Free Speech Must Be Stopped
    7 Barbados Supports Communist Domination Of Democratic Taiwan
    6 Environmental Laws In Barbados weak
    5 CHAPO
    4 Barbados’ Credit Rating In Danger
    3 The Hollinger Scandal
    2 Gems of Barbados”
    1 BFP is an Open Intelligence Database

    Question: Anon, Sargeant & Anonymous, are you in anyway related to Victor Callender ?????

    Bajans so gullible? Like hell they are!

    *****************

    BFP says,

    It looks like the BLP just can’t live with defeat. They think if they repeat the same lies over and over again it makes it real.

    Better luck next time BLP… but only if you learn your lessons, and it looks like Time will Tell has not learned his.

    Pity.

  38. Anonymous

    Anon

    You wait and see boy,that consultants list goin’ mek yuh holler fuh murder.

  39. Sargeant

    The good gentleman (I presume that the writer is male) Time Will Tell has included my nom de plume in his list of persons who are filled with bilious rancour. I presume he was referring to my post about the CHAPO poll and the lack of a timely response by UWI to claims that the agency was affiliated with that body. Rather than invite non biased observers to examine the veracity of my statements I would appreciate if he would refute them by publishing the “facts” about this matter.
    My question: At what time prior to the article by Tony Best did UWI confirm that the CHAPO organization was an independent body and was not part of the University?

    Most institutions of higher learning are highly protective of their good name and would do their utmost to preserve it. The principals of UWI (Cave Hill) instead of distancing themselves from CHAPO and preserving the University’s integrity chose political loyalty (perhaps another Knighthood was in the offing). The students at UWI and the taxpayers of B’dos who support that Institution are owed an explanation.

    To Time Will Tell: Today’s word is verbose (look it up before you post)

  40. Time will Tell

    BFP says,

    It looks like the BLP just can’t live with defeat. They think if they repeat the same lies over and over again it makes it real.

    Better luck next time BLP… but only if you learn your lessons, and it looks like Time will Tell has not learned his.

    Pity.

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    Ok. I admit It hurts. However, I respect the free will of the people. After-all this is a one term administration.

    Indeed we’ve learned our lesson. Bet you can’t tell me what that is ?

    Time will Tell

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    BFP Says,

    No, you haven’t learned your lesson – which is integrity, honesty, decency, selfless service putting the country and its citizens first.

    No my friend, that lesson does not come from a single defeat at the polls.

    Nor does it come from witnessing the legal nightmare that is about to happen to the several BLP stalwarts who will have to be held accountable – perhaps even including the former PM and Deputy PM.

    You think that your “lesson” is some mistake in strategy or tactics or communication.

    You still don’t get it.

  41. samizdat

    If the Bees had got back in, depend on it: UWI wouldn’t be disowning the CHAPO/Boxhill poll. On the contrary, they’d be claiming all the credit.

    And on a related matter, has anyone else noticed how quiet Hilary Beckles is these days?

    He’s probably discovered he’s a born-again Dem.

    Just like that other man of great integrity and principle, The Mighty Gabby…;)

  42. John

    Bajan to de Bone
    February 2, 2008 at 1:29 am
    Much as I like Kelly, I’m afraid I have to agree with frankology on this one.

    First thing being electable (4 times in Kelly’s case) does not make one a good negotiator. In the case of the fishing agreement my understanding is that the only think holding it up now are (more) reports of fishing stock counts requested by the Tobagonians. So I don’t know how much negotiating there is left to do.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Love the photo in today’s nation with Freundel apparently saying to David Thompson that Dennis Kellman only knows about pickled sea cat, not the law of the seas.

    I don’t think any of the politicians are trained negotiators or trained ministers for that matter.

    We gets what we gets.

    However I get the impression Dennis Kellman runs a shop in Half Moon Fort, St. Lucy and he sells fish if the comments I have seen on this blog are correct.

    Assuming he sells fish, it is reasonable to assume he buys fish as well and routinely is faced with issues of supply and demand and making a profit.

    Funny thing about those shopkeepers, they are pretty hardheaded and call a spade a spade. It is difficult to lead them down the garden path where their livelihood is concerned.

    If I were a Trini looking to sweet talk my way past Dennis Kellman I would think again.

    His living appears to be at the source and I would guess he knows when things are not working.

    Dennis Kellman may actually be the perfect supervisor of the whole fishing agreement thing … that is, if a result is actually required.

    Refresh my mind but how long has this fishing agreement negotiation been going on with no result?

    When was the decision which determined the demarcation line?

    Just bears out my point, none of our MPs are trained negotiators or ministers.

    We gets what we gets.

    Somehow my gut instinct is that there will be a result, ….. and quick. I am also prepared to “eat” my words but if all that is required is a commonsense approach to actually get a result, Dennis Kellman is the man!!

    Can’t think of any other MP who fits the bill like him. He negotiates agreements on the supply and demand of fish on a daily basis.

  43. Bimbro

    Rumple, if u knew the possible, effects of a recession – and I have experienced one here in the UK – you would be extremely, reluctant to use the term!!

    The thought alone, would be enough to force you to keep-quiet and pray that it does n’t happen, not encourage it to occur by careless, talk!!!!

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    I think there used to be a race-horse in Bim, named ‘Time Will Tell’!! I’m a mine of important imformation!!!! 🙂

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    BFP Says,

    No, you haven’t learned your lesson – which is integrity, honesty, decency, selfless service putting the country and its citizens first.

    No my friend, that lesson does not come from a single defeat at the polls.

    Nor does it come from witnessing the legal nightmare that is about to happen to the several BLP stalwarts who will have to be held accountable – perhaps even including the former PM and Deputy PM.

    You think that your “lesson” is some mistake in strategy or tactics or communication.

    You still don’t get it.

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    Could n’t have been said, better, Clive and to echo what I stated, yesterday, in another forum, hopefully the bastards won’t see power again in Bim, for a very, long time!!!!

  44. Makaveli

    RECESSION HA!!! if we get lucky.

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  47. Qaasen Ricardo Sealy

    I represented Barbados and competed in the Eight China ZhengZhou International Shaolin Wushu Festival. It was held in Zhengzhou, China. I won two silver medals. One for Taiji Quan (Tai Chi) and one for Yong Chun Quan ( Wing Chun).

    In addition to the martial arts competition, which held a grand opening music ceremony, I visited the largest Shaolin Temple in China, where I saw a wall Muriel of monks who looked like the average Barbadian practicing with Chinese monks over 1000 years ago, the ZhengZhou Museum and Ancient Shang Dynasty Relics. he Shang wer a people who also looked like the average Barbadian. Also, I viewed Chinese health culture practices first hand.
    I have about 4 hours video footage and digital photos of my visit. 243-0125 ( mobile)

  48. BFP

    Hi Qaasen,

    That sounds like it’s worth a story. Do you have a website or any videos posted at YouTube?

    Cliverton for BFP