Lawless Construction Continues At Vaucluse Barbados – Illegal Track Now Being Paved

From the desk of Ursula Goodenough

Dear Media

We regret we have had to return to you with more bad news. We hoped it was over.

The scheduled Independence car racing at Vaucluse did not come off as planned. Word has it, but this is unconfirmed, that the authorities found a way to prevent them from going ahead with it. The residents of Dukes and St. Thomas do sincerely wish that the regrettable incidents and the illegal activities at Vaucluse could have been prevented from happening in their community, and wish the Bushy Park meet success this coming next weekend as the alternate venue, the venue where it should have been scheduled in the first place.

Regrettably we have had to record and post 2 further YouTube videos of further illegal activity. The application that seems to have been ignored by the developers was to retain a dirt track. Unfortunately, the track is no longer going to be dirt, as they have been paving it as fast as they possibly can.

PAVING!!! WATCH THIS FROM TODAY!!! of unapproved site in contravention of Town Planning and the Prime Minister’s instructions. Barbados: Dec 4 2007

We have observed an October 30 2007 hearing with the owners/developers present, at Ministry of Finance, where selected objectors gave testimony, where the Prime Minister himself (though not present) was given time to receive opinion from his Permanent Secretary, and to make an informed decision on whether to retain a dirt track. However, with the situation as it now stands, in order to now consider a dirt track we will have to remove the top layer of approximately 2 feet of compacted-rolled marl, now paved with tar and marl, rolled with the heavy roller. Developers have gone straight through this procedure and engineered themselves a racetrack against all commands, instructions and laws.

Another sad day in Barbados, a beautiful island where neither the law nor respect for residents rights seem to have meaning… to people such as these.

Roadworks: November 26 2007

And furthermore, in discussions between ourselves and none other than the Prime Minister of Barbados, we have discovered the following:
The residents said NO
Member of Parliament Cynthia Forde said NO
The Chief Town Planner said NO
The Prime Minister of Barbados also said NO!

Today we are calling the media to please…PLEASE… investigate and discover on what basis the developer/owner says YES and can go ahead while awaiting the opinion and word of The Prime Minister of Barbados??

We want to also call on our representatives in Parliament, knowing that one day soon we shall overcome, to deny the owners/developers licences for liquor, to deny facilitation through the Royal Barbados Police Force; to find some way to shut down and prevent this illegal cancer in our beautiful, peaceful St. Thomas… as a demonstration that too many wrongs will never become a right in the fair land of Barbados… no matter how much land or money someone has.

We may not have money or power, but we have posted our evidence on youtube for all to see. Barbados, today we show you a part of ourselves, an ugly armpit part, but a part nonetheless.

Say ‘no’ to lawlessness in Barbados.
Say ‘no’ to the Makavellian principle of ‘you can’t stop me’ and ‘might is right’. Is the high and mighty owner truly right and correct today?.
Say ‘no’ to an island where bad people really believe that “some are more equal than others”.
Maintain the principles of fairness and please protect the rights of the innocent. Help keep Barbados on the straight path of righteousness.

We thank you for your support and help, whether it be on the blogs, whether it be in the news rooms, the TV Station, or within the corridors of our proud, upstanding Ministries.

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62 responses to “Lawless Construction Continues At Vaucluse Barbados – Illegal Track Now Being Paved

  1. peltdownman

    Can we but hope that the government is waiting for him to spend all this money, and then tell him to undo it? I remember well the late Prime Minister “Tom” Adams insisting that the Pavilion Court building be restored and refusing demolition after it just “happened” to burn down. It’s time to turn the screws on these arrogant individuals.

  2. peltdownman

    I see that the Friends of Motorsport have a thoughtful and erudite supporter’s group.

  3. Boar

    Why is it that whenever a dump is in someones backyard they complain, yet they still need to throw away garbage and have it taken to a dump? Barbados needs this, car racing and motorsports have taken over cricket, sugar cane, and all the things that were in swing for the people of the age that are protesting . If they were building a golf course they would love it whether it was illegal or not

  4. peltdownman

    Bore
    Barbados needs motorsports like I need a hole in the head. But if you insist that it is a handy foreign exchange earner (and no one has given concrete evidence that it is a sustantial f/e earner), then it should be in an area where it causes minimum disruption to people’s lives. This has nothing to do with age, it has everything to do with respecting other people’s rights, and the law of the land. I suspect that you are of the age that such prinicples are alien to you. As for golf courses, they are also a disaster waiting to happen as water becomes more and more scarce. They exist as an excuse for real estate development, and though I can’t speak for the residents of Dukes, if I lived in such an area, I would also object to a golf course.

  5. De Boar and Co.
    If car racing has taken over cricket how come all UWI is architecturally influenced and designed around cricket? How come we spent 150M on Kensington? How come Hilary Beckles talks about cricket and the social development in the West Indies? How come we see the schools on the sports news each day with bat and ball? Where did you go to school?

    But case in point, someone is trying to justify a need for the creation of something that was unauthorised and illegal. And Barbados thneeds this, do we?

    We need this way like we need open dope-pedalling on the streets and on the mini-buses. We need this like we need drag racers by the 12 dozen on our soon to open brand-new double-laned carriage-ways.

    What model criminals we have here, and someone has the gall to tell us.. you..we..need..this?? This is a crime against innocent people!

    You applied to us via Town Hall, and we objected. We sent a petition. You did not respond or fulfill. Every Governmental agency in Barbados has said ‘no’ to Vaucluse, but your people went and still did it.

  6. frankology

    If car racing has taken over cricket how come all UWI is architecturally influenced and designed around cricket? How come we spent 150M on Kensington? How come Hilary Beckles talks about cricket and the social development in the West Indies? How come we see the schools on the sports news each day with bat and ball? Where did you go to school?
    ………………………………………………………………………………
    Your argument is just as weak as your submissions.
    That is the same thing we are trying to ram into your head. We are using our taxpayers money to prop cricket, golf and other sports, but it is the private sector that is keeping motorsports alive. By the way, if the Prime Minister is against the motor course and he is the final link to the TCP. How come he is not putting a halt to proceedings. The reason is simple. Once you have made an application, the TCP cannot give out any enforcement order(s). Once no solid structure has been constructed, it is totally legal.

    Since you are always with the video, did you take any buildings that were shaking during the earthquake?

  7. peltdownman

    The application was for retention of a dirt track. Please tell me, Frankology if a paved road is not a solid structure. That would be a reach, even for you.

  8. frankology

    Thanks for acknowledging your name, now acknowledge your profession as a professor of Microbiology and stop fooling the public that you are a poor resident from Dukes. Also give the reason for your constant protest.
    These are facts that we need to get from you, you did say and I did see that another application is within the TPD for construction of Club House and other infrastructures. Based on your comment, you are comfortable with cricket and golf but you hate motorsports. Williams, Cozier et al can allow the entire Vaucluse to run to ruins and assist you with the devaluation of your property, also assist in making the area bushy to accommodate unsavoury characters, these acts will make you happy, I believe.

  9. U. Goodenough

    Yes we are weak, but our submissions are strong. We are not arguing. We are telling the general public what is happening up there

    You/they are ramming an illegal racetrack down innocent peoples’ throats via a bunch of legal-technical interpretations, which we do not accept.

    We accept your interpretation that we are at a point in time when we have entered the legal realm, and we look forward to a champion in the highest of places. We do not accpt your interpretation, nor do we think that ‘they’ are entitled to liquor licences of facilitation by the Royal Barbados Police Force.

    We do not understand why, if yours are correct interpretations
    1) There was application for a dirt track at TCPO
    2) Second application for change of use
    3) There was a Town Hall Meeting along with EIA, etc, etc, etc.

    If there was no need for these legally, why did they happen? For fun and recreation and to spend money needlessly?

    But if it is cricket I can debate you and win vs motorsport, and defend the parish. Cricket is our National game; a game where the West Indies has a proud tradition that only quite recently has been compromised (probably temporarily, we’ll see). Many of our cricketers are engaged overseas. Cricket is a sport that has legacy of the poor WI’s triumph against the odds. That is why UWI and the intellectuals chose it as our social model- to develop the mentality of our true social success. We have cricket up here at many grounds many weekends- it does not disturb us.

    Motorsports is a consumptive, expensive loud, anti-social, polluting sport, but that is only a closeby neighbourly type of perspective, speaking from Dukes.

    This track denigrates us in St.Thomas, and it denigrates our rights. And this venue is now fully tarnished by the criminality of its attempted establishment.

    Who will pay for the drop in residents’ land values?
    Who will pay for the loss of residents’ peaceful neighbourhood?

    Put a cricket pitch there. We’ll play too. But we will not tolerate an illegal race track. We do not accept any race track whatsoever, dirt or otherwise.

  10. Yardbroom

    Some commentators here, have sought to confuse the issue with untruths masquerading as facts. eg …”once no solid structure has been completed, it is totally legal.”

    To take that point literally, it would mean that it would be legal to tarmac 1000 acres of land in the Barbados country side, and because no building was being constructed it would be legal.

    That logic beggars belief.

    The Town and Country Planning Act, Cap. 240, defines development as “The carrying out of building, engineering, mining or other operations in, on over or under any land, the making of any material change in use of any building or other land or the subdivision of land.”

    It could not be clearer, have a position that is a right, but to say it is “legal” on the evidence you have submitted – I will leave that to others.

  11. Waterboy

    Yardbroom, It has already been pointed out to Frankology that this is “development” as defined by the Act Cap.240, but he keeps on suggesting that there needs to be a building to constitute “development”.

    Frankology, I think it is too late because Vaucluse already “run to ruin” by the great agricultural experts who own it. You really think they interested in agriculture?

  12. frankology

    People have the impression that plantations should be the main source of our agricultural production, but these owners are not ploughing hard earned dollars to prop up this sector. It would be easier for these owners to let the land run to ruin and use the plantation as a loss to recoup taxes and to offset other business shortfalls.

  13. frankology

    The Town and Country Planning Act, Cap. 240, defines development as “The carrying out of building, engineering, mining or other operations in, on over or under any land, the making of any material change in use of any building or other land or the subdivision of land.”
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    The land is not being sub-divided, change of use refer to being of a permanent nature, not of a temporary basis; and spectators, vehicles are mobile. Vaucluse is still a private entity. Another thing, the validity of the residents confirming the PM is against the race-course, he just need a pen to stop it.

  14. Paradox

    “Another sad day in Barbados, a beautiful Island where neither the law nor respect for residents rights seem to have meaning…..to people such as these.”
    Money my friend!

  15. frankology

    You have exposed yourself to being bias and using TPD non-issue as your plank to fool the public due to your dislike of motor sports. Yes! I believe in democracy, but I will not allow you to deceive our people with high-end untruths. If you have a 20% backing of the residents, you can use some of millions to bring a ‘court injunction’ or maybe ‘a class action suit’ to satisfy your ‘personal’ challenges.

    UG:
    That is why UWI and the intellectuals chose it as our social model- to develop the mentality of our true social success. We have cricket up here at many grounds many weekends- it does not disturb us.
    ………………………………………………………………………………….
    The amount of money spent on this sport (cricket) is outrageous. The National Sports Council receives millions of dollars in subvention to maintain grounds. Motor sports received NONE.

    UG:
    1) There was application for a dirt track at TCPO
    2) Second application for change of use
    3) There was a Town Hall Meeting along with EIA, etc, etc, etc.
    ……………………………………………………………………………..
    Applications are necessary for a major involvement, but the facts are: None have been denied as you are trying to fool the public.
    Town Hall Meetings were held, less than fifteen of the residents attended with only the Caucasian race who are against this track. What about the other people (blacks and whites) who have no problem with the track.

    UG:
    That is why UWI and the intellectuals chose it as our social model- to develop the mentality of our true social success.
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    Out of all the Universities in the West Indies, Cave Hill is the only one that is raping the economy of taxpayer’s money. Check the amount of money being spent on cricket, what about football, netball, basketball and other outdoor sports that are being neglected. The UWI should be focusing on academics, not cricket. No wonder Sir Hilary receive a knighthood, was it for wasting Universities funds in the wrong direction?

    UG:
    Motor sports is a consumptive, expensive loud, anti-social, polluting sport,
    ……………………………………………………………………………….
    It is the only sports were racial barriers are eased; the whites and blacks eat and drink from the same basket. Comradie is of a higher social influence than that forced down by the intellects at UWI and even your selfish anti-motor sports groupings.

    UG:
    How come we see the schools on the sports news each day with bat and ball? Where did you go to school?
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    We have to blame the media for its bias reporting, especially CBC. Check with the various cricket programs even if no cricket is being played.
    Go by any school (kindergarten to tertiary) and ask anyone about cars vs cricketers and you will understand the passion for motor sports.

    Finally
    UG:
    The residents said NO
    Member of Parliament Cynthia Forde said NO
    The Chief Town Planner said NO
    The Prime Minister of Barbados also said NO!
    ………………………………………………………………………………
    Can you supply concrete evident to the public by written or verbal regarding these statements?
    You are so smart since no legal recourse have been formulated to deal with blogging that you can state openly those ‘never-say-so- statements to concrete your lies of the above people saying “NO”.

    Why then in your “letter to the editor” in the Nation, you never mentioned of TCP’s denial or the statement from Hon Cynthia Forde? Being financial strong, why can you and your friends take out ‘a paid advertisement’ and state your case using the TCP’s issue, the PM and Representative ‘saying NO’ issue, and your anti-social and negative statements for the whole of Barbados to read. We know that you will get immediate responses.

    We realise that you do not like the sport, but do not use the blogs for your lies. No Government agency or Government representative will openly response to your postings.

    I will only participate in this blog again when I see documents or responses from the people you have used as your planks.

  16. U. Goodenough

    You’re insane.

  17. Wishing in Vain

    I will only participate in this blog again when I see documents or responses from the people you have used as your planks.

    Wow could you really be speaking the truth for once?

    Please do not threaten put it into action or will your neutrality prevent you from doing such?

  18. Thistle

    “I will not allow you …”??? Who do you think you are to “allow” or “not allow” a citizen their right? I think U. Goodenough is correct – you’re insane.

  19. peltdownman

    AT LAST!!!!! Frankology uses the race card. Always a sure bet when an argument is being lost.

  20. peltdownman

    “I will not allow you” sounds awfully similar in meaning to “the Friends of Motorsport must be obeyed”.

  21. U. Goodenough

    The criminal mind will try to justify illegal acts.

    We have been fighting this illegal occurrence for 2 years now. Still we are not yet tired. These are home lands we are defending. Our lands are not 1000 acres but they are the extent of what we, the residents, own.

    The blogs allowed the public an awareness towards the illegality of what these particular law-breakers are doing.

    Surely going outside the law will not be rewarded in Barbados? If that were to be so couldn’t (and wouldn’t) everyone follow suit?

    ****************************

    BFP comments

    UG said “Surely going outside the law will not be rewarded in Barbados? If that were to be so couldn’t (and wouldn’t) everyone follow suit?”

    You nailed it, UG! That is what has happened to our country. Robert always says “leadership is top down” and in Barbados this corrupt leadership is reaping what it has sowed.

    george

  22. frankology

    Peltdownman. Have you done any checking with the TPD, or any Government agencies regarding the lady statements, or you check reading statements from the lady. I keep saying that it is only car racing that affecting the lady. She is allergic to fast moving vehicles. She do not mind the unsavory characters with cricket, she hates car racing.

  23. peltdownman

    As I mentioned once in a previous blog, if Cozier gets away with this, it will be open season for haphazard and unplanned development. Imagine a person being prevented from carrying out work by TCP. He can only retort that Cozier did it, and got away with it. It will be planning anarchy. Do we seriously imagine that the new owners of Barbados Farms, whoever they may be, will be able to put the bulldozers through the fields and plantations while awaiting planning permission? Such a suggestion is a joke.

  24. frankology

    Do we seriously imagine that the new owners of Barbados Farms, whoever they may be, will be able to put the bulldozers through the fields and plantations while awaiting planning permission?
    …………………………………………………………………………………
    If you are going to construct houses and lay down roads with utilities, that will be a change of use. In its present form, if the race course becomes a liability, the return to agriculture will still be there since the infrastructure have not be compromised.

  25. frankology

    I made a statement and gave alternatives. (see below)

    I will not allow you to deceive our people with high-end untruths. If you have a 20% backing of the residents, you can use some of millions to bring a ‘court injunction’ or maybe ‘a class action suit’ to satisfy your ‘personal’ challenges.

    You took five words from my statement and came up with a stupid assumption.

    “I will not allow you …”??? Who do you think you are to “allow” or “not allow” a citizen their right? I think U. Goodenough is correct – you’re insane.

    If you break down all the posts by Ursula Goodenough, you will see that her only peeve is motor sports, Williams, Cozier et al. Maybe, the owners can construct a cricket or golf grounds to satisfy the good lady.

    I promise the partisan political writers, that if The Hon. David Thompson and the DLP wins the Government that this race course will get full backing. Not because who owns it, but due to the popularity of the sport that will fit in with sports tourism.

  26. Wishing in Vain

    if The Hon. David Thompson and the DLP wins the Government that this race course will get full backing.

    Are you not getting besides yourself in attempting to speak as if you were Mr Thompson and the gov’t, you ought to review your writings before making them public, you are in no position to say what or what not Mr Thompson would do when he forms the next gov’t you are out of place.

  27. peltdownman

    “I will only participate in this blog again when I see documents or responses from the people you have used as your planks.”
    ___________________________________Now who’s lying, Frankology?
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    The only tourism that goes with motor sports in Barbados is the movement of drunk drivers from one part of the country to another. I accept that tourists might watch the event, but by far the majority are the ones that are here already.

    Please note that I did not state that buildings would be involved on Barbados Farms property, just the use of bulldozers. It simply would not be allowed. It is a total joke to think that the racetrack can be returned to agriculture once paved, though I would love to see Cozier forced to do it.

  28. frankology

    The only tourism that goes with motor sports in Barbados is the movement of drunk drivers from one part of the country to another. I accept that tourists might watch the event, but by far the majority are the ones that are here already.
    …………………………………………………………………………………
    Based on your statement, I can see that you are not familiar with the power of motor spots.
    Take for instant the Rally Carnival, we will have 10 cars coming in to race, each car usually bring in 10 – 15 people the least, these people stay at hotels or guest houses which are paid for in cash, these people will stay at least two weeks, these people purchase items and food, and yes – (drinks), these people rent cars to move around, not our MP vehicles, these people party hard… You now see what is sports tourism. Shame on you for your lack of economics.

    By the way, who make up the most spectators during cricket.. . .the locals or tourists?

  29. frankology

    I would love to see Cozier forced to do it.
    …………………………………………………………………………………
    No laws is in place demanding a plantation owner to use land only for agricultural use.

  30. peltdownman

    Frankology
    each car usually bring (sic) in 10 – 15 people the least.
    _______________________________
    I accept that the few that do come will party hard – hasn’t that been said all along? They party hard and rent cars – that says it all. So, the sports tourism that my lousy economics fails to register is 150 people?! And for this, the rights of the residents of Dukes and surrounding areas are to be sacrificed? This is getting sicker by the minute.

  31. U. Goodenough

    It is real people’s welfare we are talking about in these communities.

    When will the taking be sufficient? When every shred of dignity is lost? When good or meaningful or right has been redefined as evil, shallow or illegal?

    We will become one and the same. The person in the poison, or vice versa; the cancer in the barbados.

    It has no money, it has value by far and away greater.

    See our future.

  32. frankology

    The evolution visionary, I love your book, deal with microbiology, but do not try controlling Barbadians. It is a different ball game.

  33. Anonymous

    I cannot think of many other places in Barbados where a motor sports home would inconvenience less people.

  34. U. Goodenough

    The I.

    I cannot think about a more established place than the venue where it is occurring this very weekend.

    I do think the criminal mind will try to justify illegal actions.

  35. U. Goodenough

    The Ancient story to the Child

    Evil Magician: (turns Villagers to stone)

    Princess: Stop! You can’t do that!

    Evil Magician: Hahahahaha! I already have! And if you don’t do as I say I’ll keep them like that forever!

    Camera pans to the statues.

    etc?

  36. peltdownman

    Anonymous
    In a real democracy the state makes sure that the needs of minorities and individuals are taken care of. This means that if a highway or a new airport runway are constructed, those who are inconvenienced are compensated in some way. Plus the fact that such things that affect even a small number of people are subject to public enquiries, and multiple environmental impact assessments. Therefore, in some cases, homeowners affected by a new runway or highway will receive substantial grants to soundproof their homes, for example. In the case of Barbados, such is not possible because of the climate, so this has to be taken into consideration. There is a process, and in the case of Vaucluse, it has not been followed.

    Frankology
    “do not try controlling Barbadians. It is a different ball game.”
    _________________________________
    There is nothing that I have seen on this matter that even implies controlling people, except from motor racing sympathisers who want to control the protesters. Different ballgame from what, by the way? Different from controlling sheep? Look in a mirror – it will help you define the word “smug”.

  37. frankology

    As a public service, I have copied a press release printed by the Nation from the one and only Ursula Goodenough.

    You will see that she never mentioned anything about TPD although she stated that enforcement orders were given to the owners of Vaucluse Raceways.

    Within her story, she stated that she/fore parents lived in Dukes for over 100 years. This is a total lie, she could not be living in Barbados over 10 years. She do not live in Dukes, she is not poor. When you start with lies, you will not get results.

    See her autobiography @

    http://www.ascb.org/index.cfm?id=1280&navid=110&tcode=nws3

    and read her press release

    “We are not protesting the existence of a race track. We are protesting the proposed building of a racetrack in, and near, heavily populated, established residential areas.

    There are people with houses on lands adjoining, and close by, who will experience inconvenience, hardship, loss of property values and health challenges.

    St Thomas citizens are patriotic and support tourism. We support the establishment of a race track in another place, but only where communities and residents are safe from its effects.

    We have lived in Dukes Tenantry for over 100 years. So why is it that we should be expected to put up with a set of abusers, who are trying to destroy our peaceful existence?

    We continue to say that Vaucluse is not an appropriate place for a race track. Residents are already there.

    Our rights are important. Why not put itat the end of Grantley Adams runway, or at a location far away from a residential development?

    We won’t accept the proposed noisy night/day racing till 10 p.m., advertised late-night partying, and novice roadster drivers who fly about after drinks on our narrow, hilly roads.

    We won’t accept their plans for a hugely noisy and dusty, polluting double-lane drag strip from Vaucluse Factory to Dukes. We don’t accept their attempts to close our public road.

    * We won’t accept their planned 12 000 patrons, which is the size of Kensington Oval, in our community.

    * We won’t accept their past and future planned obstructions to our passage.

    * We won’t accept their fans’ drunken driving.

    * We know that property values will go down, as will our health and quality of life, and our right to peaceful enjoyment.

    We plead to the powers. We pray to God for deliverance . . . and appeal to the Government to help us and to protect our rights.

    Does the developers’ money give them greater rights than we the villagers? Surely Town Planning will place greater value on our lives and health?

    Their town hall meeting was called and forgotten at Christmas time, when motor sports organisers knew no one could attend. Shame!

    We cannot move. Many of us are very poor, as opposed to the rich landowners we are up against. Let them have a track at their own house, but please not in our front yard! (END)

    Peltdownman. Pick sense from nonsense.

  38. frankology

    Look in a mirror – it will help you define the word “smug”.
    ………………………………………………………………………………
    It could mean ‘self satisfying’ or ‘complacent’ or even ‘arrogant’. One thing I will not do, is to label myself. I am just ‘me’

  39. frankology

    By the way, the Nation’s press release was April 2006.

  40. U. Goodenough

    That autobiography link is a different Ursula Goodenough.

    I Goodenough.
    E. Goodenough.
    Nought Goodenough.
    Oui Goodenough.
    U. Goodenough II.
    All o we is one family.

    We don’t have to check our stories because we always tell the truth.

    Illegal is illegal. We don’t defend or cover up, we have exposed them. It’s all down in the blog now for everyone to read. Thank God blogs exist because without them it is entirely probable no one in Barbados would ever have heard what they are trying to do.

    Spread the word. God bless.

  41. frankology

    We don’t have to check our stories because we always tell the truth.
    …………………………………………………………………………………
    I beseech you to publish your article in any of the two newspapers and include the confirmation by the Prime Minister and the Representative for St. Thomas, also include information on the TPD. This will allow response from the mentioned parties.

  42. frankology

    That autobiography link is a different Ursula Goodenough.
    …………………………………………………………………………………

    http://www.biology.wustl.edu/faculty/FacultyPage.php?IDProf=13

  43. U. Goodenough

    Much too tired this evening to continue to beseech the newspapers. Love you Frank. hugs

    U.

  44. SKIZ

    U. Goodenough,

    “It’s all down in the blog now for everyone to read.”

    …………………………….

    IDIOT.

    It’s all in the blogs and not a damn thing will happen.

    FOOL!

  45. SKIZ

    U. Goodenough,

    Stupid deranged b.i.tch.

    We have your number…. very soon you won’t be a problem anymore.

    B F P E.

  46. U. Goodenough

    Check today’s Nation newspaper. Another parallel.

    1) Young motorsport drag race fans are prepared to continually go outside the law despite what the Royal Barbados Police Force says.

    and

    2) Developers of an illegal track are prepared to go outside the law despite what the authorities say.

    And we shall develop them as policy? We hope not.

    We see a rise in crime. We keep telling everyone that they are teaching the masses that it doesn’t matter. Who listens? Well, the Royal Barbados Police Force for one.

    St Thomas residents support the law and continue to call for their right to peace.

    We have lived here for centuries. This is just not right, this thing that is happening.

  47. 4morevalves

    You seem to subscribe to a theory that seems to work well in Barbados: ‘Bull$h1t baffles brains’.

    I agree with Frankology’s call. Why, if all these people have said ‘no’ to the track, have you not let the Nation newspaper know this?

    Goodenough, you are a liar. That is about as factual a statement as you’ll ever get on here.

  48. U. Goodenough

    Both CBC and the Nation have DVDs of your group’s illegal actions, as do the various Government Ministries and the MP for St. Thomas.

    Have a nice day, and thanks for reminding us we aren’t finished.

  49. 4morevalves

    My group? Believe me I would proudly state if I had an affiliation with it, but alas, I do not. You’ve been spewing rubbish about DVDs and MPs for months now.

    I want to know why, if you claim even the PM has said no, do you not tell these stories to the media? Maybe because you know the media will check the facts? Does this worry you?

  50. U. Goodenough

    That track was hurriedly built between Oct 3 and Nov 30 without planning permission. We have documented it.

    But there was no race meet there as was scheduled Nov 30 – Dec 2, 2007. The organisers for this event got the word ‘no’, and we pray that it will be ‘no’… forever.

    No events there…..ever. And we also pray that race-car people will be happy to be within the law at the legal venue.

    At Bushy Park- legally allowed to hold race meets- it is time to make plans for race meets to all be there- because St. Thomas residents have objected to the proposal to have them here. So, not a single one. We will work, and we will blog, and we will document, and we will show Barbados what happened. And why lawless developers should never get their way. And how it can- and will- affect societal thinking.

    We thank you for your curse-words and insults above, which give us opportunity to tell everyone the facts… again.

    Even as the Permanent Secretary from the Ministry of Finance and the Minister for St. Thomas came to actual site visit, trucks and machines were working in front of their very faces, feverishly trying to get the work in case it was denied immediately. What an insult us, and to Barbados this thing is.

    How arrogant is that?

    Arrogant people, accustomed to doing without asking.

  51. 4morevalves

    Still no answer to my question regarding telling the media of our Prime Minister denying it? See, I’m not going to drop this point.

    How arrogant are you? Assuming that we have to believe the garbage you talk on this forum. Answer my question, if you have either the guts or facts to!

    And if all these people came to the site, with trucks working ‘before their eyes’, then why has a stop order STILL not been issued?!?

    You try to confuse everyone with all kinds of accusations and fallacies that you’ve dreamed up but never have the decency (or maybe ability) to post the facts behind your claims.

    I’ll say again goodenough: “You are a LIAR!”

  52. U. Goodenough

    I trust ‘you (the lawless side of motor sport in Barbados)’ had a satisfying Independence race meet.

    The residents of St. Thomas look forward to the Barbados Rally Carnival… at Bushy Park where it belongs!

    ‘NO’ to lawless arrogance and disregard of the residents rights to peace and quiet!

  53. 4morevalves

    You assume that I even watch the events there.

    The same way you assumed everyone would believe your “even the PM said no” rubbish.

    Cull your lying ways and stop trying to brainwash everyone into your anti-motorsport mentality.

    And I’m still waiting on my answer. The more you avoid it the more you prove to everyone that it was a falsehood in the first place.

  54. U. Goodenough

    You got it at Independence.

    Death threats already came so kindly cull your ‘cull’. Feeling angry are we?

  55. 4morevalves

    Death threats? Angry? You clearly don’t read people well.

    I’m certain that I am a more level headed person than you.

    And I know different about Independence. You twist the stories to make people believe that there was no race meet because there might some truth to your accusations. But I know different, lass.

  56. U. Goodenough

    An election date has been called. We are worried that we will be victimised after the election, though we will continue to make representation. We tell the truth and we stand firm in our convictions.

    We would like to wish all candidates, regardless of political affiliation, a Merry Christmas and Happy New year, and in times henceforth, win and lose.

    Please check our links from previous posts.

    We are begging all the leaders of, every walk, to consider our plight as residents in the face of a development that has no planning permission, which is under protest, which has disregarded all instructions, and which continues to arrogantly push ahead.

    Re insults and being better than others: St. Thomas residents have no doubt that big-up know-it-alls will ever think they are much more level-headed than any of us could ever be. They use more valves too. To our knowledge few of us have never called for more of those. My two have personally served me well for a lifetime.

    Let all honest and caring politicians please have empathy for those who have fewer resources than those lawless big-ups, because without this protection we are going to be oppressed.

    Please make Bushy Park the home of Barbados Rally Carnival, and all track events. Please ban all 2008 track activities in St. Thomas, keeping our communities lawful, clean and peaceful!

    Don’t teach the young generation their ways. Show Barbados the right paths!

  57. 4morevalves

    You can preach all you want, oh Ms. Holier-than-thou. It still doesn’t change the fact that you haven’t answered my question. You have done yourself an injustice by ever bringing it up. You have proven yourself a LIAR. You cannot be trusted.

    Retreat to your big house and enjoy opening all your expensive gifts this Christmas. Maybe next year, you’ll resolve not to lie anymore and we can finally get a bit of truth out of you.

  58. U. Goodenough

    No Town Planning permission for application for a DIRT track retention.

    Check this link showing PAVING of track:

    So, let the public decide.

    Thanks Barbados Freepress, from St. Thomas, for giving us the opportunity to show the truth about who we are opposing.

    And by the way congrats to all the struggling petitioners who were upheld after the proposed Graeme Hall waterpark was rejected.

    *******************

    BFP Comments

    Hi UG,

    We’re all doing what we can.

    About the Waterpark… It is a small battle won, but it is not a victory. There is a nefarious plan in the works that makes the waterpark look like a green garden. More on this later, but the PM’s announcement was a lie in many ways. Story to follow by Sunday if we can get it together.

  59. frankology

    Please make Bushy Park the home of Barbados Rally Carnival, and all track events. Please ban all 2008 track activities in St. Thomas, keeping our communities lawful, clean and peaceful!
    ………………………………………………………………………………….
    I was planning to ignore you since you have been singing the same tune, but I couldn’t resist after you make such a statement. Your problem is racing in Vaucluse. You stated repeatedly that the Minister for the area said ‘No’; you stated repeatedly that TPD delivered ‘enforcement orders’, you now proclaiming that the Mr. Arthur also said ‘No’. Now UG, you have the opportunity to deal with an issue by speaking to the DLP representative Haldene Dottin or David Thompson to vent your displeasure of having a race course in your neighbour hood.

    David.
    Can you remember this same Graeme Hall area was mooted to be a Golf Course with a massive Hotel during the eighties. Plans were afoot to remove all the houses in the area for this golf course.

    Friends of Graeme Hall, which fought in a unified manner, unlike like the Vaucluse area where we are only hearing one voice. This Graeme Hall area should be preserved as a Heritage Park and not a Water Park.

  60. More-than-interested-bystander

    I dont often read blogs…usually the input is so narrow-minded that it simply raises blood pressure and accomplishes nothing. The recent “dialogue” between U. Goodenough and 4morevalves is beyond description. No matter what U.G. writes 4mv simply responds by calling her a liar. What kind of foolishness is that? If it is doubted that the vital information was sent to our various media why not go there and check it out? Or the Prime Minister’s office? Of course, they are most likely to deny receipt of any DVDs and then 4mv would have to call them liars too. Has he got the guts to do that? Because others are not answering the foolishness, does that mean they dont care? Not by a long shot…the case of the illegal race track in St Thomas has been fought and won! No gloating just a simple recognition of fact and now it is time to focus on other important aspects of life. Is it possible that that 4morevalves hasnt got a life except through his valves? Maybe his valves need checking.

  61. 4morevalves

    I have no doubts regarding any information being sent to any media outlets. Or to the Prime Minister’s office. Information could have been sent to the Queen for all I care. What I do have a problem with is her claim that everyone has said no. She is a liar. None have said no. And if you can believe her then you are are clearly too naive for your own good.

  62. U. Goodenough

    This horrid, base, but very level-headed (as self described) person now casts aspersions on every department of Government. This is an attempt to politicise this illegal occurrence.

    All politicians and members of all agencies, whether they be incumbent or prospective at the polls, may easily take note of the fact that these people think they can do anything, do it anytime, and are accustomed to doing so.

    No planning permission means ‘NO’ development. They have no permission. We caught them and showed them for what they are- Crooks. And friendly crooks will rally to them if Barbados lets them.

    Merry Christmas to the law-breakers, to their mentees.

    And Merry Christmas to Law Enforcement, who we appealled to for protection, and who listened.