Prime Minister Arthur Pledges New Anti-Corruption Law, To “Eradicate Corruption, Promote Integrity In Public Life”…. OK Sir, What About That $750k Cheque?

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UPDATE: Promises By Thompson And Arthur Are Worth Nothing – Bajans Demand Real Actions

We don’t believe that either Prime Minister Owen Arthur or Opposition Leader David Thompson are serious about introducing integrity legislation.

We call upon the respective leaders and parties to do the following – which is well within their capabilities…

BLP Government

1/ Formally announce that no election will be held until at least three months AFTER integrity legislation is passed by the current Barbados Government.

2/ On December 3, 2007, introduce integrity legislation – including Conflict of Interest and Freedom of Information provisions – in Parliament and by publishing the legislation in full on the web and in local newspapers and expeditiously proceed with implementing the same.

3/ Immediately bind the BLP government members and candidates to the legislation, whether it has yet been proclaimed into law or not.

DLP Opposition

1/ Formally announce that, if elected, a DLP Government would introduce integrity legislation in Parliament within 30 days and expeditiously proceed with implementing the same.

2/ On December 3, 2007, present the proposed DLP integrity legislation – including Conflict of Interest and Freedom of Information provisions – to the public by publishing the proposed legislation in full on the web and in local newspapers

3/ Immediately bind the DLP members and candidates to the legislation, whether it has yet been proclaimed into law or not.

Original Article…

The Prime Minister was shoveling the horse-poop fast and high on the weekend. Faced with a never-ending public litany of corruption that is seriously threatening his fourth term, Owen Arthur and the BLP have promised yet again to introduce “anti-corruption” legislation.

Later. You know – like after he is elected again.

“Just elect us again and we really promise to introduce anti-corruption legislation this time. Really. Honest.”

Bajans seem to be so willing to be lied to. Whether it is David Thompson or Owen Arthur promising integrity legislation, many folks are willing to say “See… that proves they are serious. They are promising to introduce integrity legislation.”

What is that old saying about a promise being a comfort to a fool?

Both Parties Have Promised Integrity Legislation In Years Gone By

Both Parties Could Have Crafted Integrity Legislation In The Past Year And Presented It To The Public

Barbados Free Press readers are free to believe whatever they want to, but both the DLP and the BLP are johnny-come-lately to the issue of integrity legislation. Both are only mentioning the words “integrity legislation” because there is an election on the way and they know that the public has had enough of corruption.

What a sad state of affairs. Bajans are faced with electing greedy piggies who have been gorging themselves for the last 14 years or thin, hungry piggies who can’t wait for their turn to sink their snouts into the slops.

I don’t believe Owen Arthur.

I don’t believe David Thompson.

Neither have introduced a thing in writing when both could have had legislation all set to go during the past year.

Won’t get fooled again.

If you really must read the Prime Minister’s latest pile of horse dung lie – The Nation News: Prime Minister Knocks Thompson On Hardwood Issue

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71 responses to “Prime Minister Arthur Pledges New Anti-Corruption Law, To “Eradicate Corruption, Promote Integrity In Public Life”…. OK Sir, What About That $750k Cheque?

  1. Anonymous

    You have finally convinced me. There is no reason why we should believe their promises without seeing it in writing.

    December 3rd sounds good enough to me.

  2. anon

    Please ensure that you carry the full extract from the PM’s speech on sunday that deals with the matter and stop with the silly innuendos about the BLP not doing about the matter

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    BFP replies…

    Same tired old promises by the same piggies.

    We’ve got an idea… Why doesn’t the BLP publish their proposed integrity legislation on their blog or website today!

    Oink! Oink!

  3. anon

    the word anything should have been after doing.

  4. Hants

    BFP….there is a fundamental principle in politics.
    When a political party does not keep a promise you Vote against them at the next Election.

    However, if you support a party and want to do more than that, join the party and fight for what is right from within.

    If you don’t believe Owen and you don’t believe David will you be voting PEP?

    This time I believe both of them. Elections coming soon.

  5. BFP

    Hants, you might be happy rolling along with the old model but we’re not. We demand real action and commitment by Thompson – not a “battle of promises”.

    Both Thompson and Arthur have had the opportunity over the past year to produce a workable model of integrity legislation for public inspection. Neither have done so. Both promise to implement such legislation after they are elected… but the legislation could be nothing worthwhile. It could be designed, for instance, with an amnesty or be so toothless as to be merely a sop to public demands.

    Nope… you can believe both of them if you want.

    We say that neither one is serious.

    Certainly Thompson is not serious or he and his party would have been coming into the election with legislation all set to go so the public could make up their minds with all the facts before them.

    No transparency there.

    Just more of the same.

    Oink Oink!

  6. Wishing in Vain

    Here we go again harking and sounding like a bad broken record BFP, I assume that those of BFP must have had a deep insight into the thinkings and workings of the DLP adminstration and their Manifesto!!!!

  7. West Side Davie

    Why shouldn’t we expect both parties to produce their anticorruption law before the election? I like the idea. It is the partisans who are sounding like broken records, not the citizens who are crying that they have had enough.

    Actions = good.
    Promises = nothing

  8. Anonymous

    I don’t belief them blp or dlp. same bunch. I don’t belief them.

  9. Hants

    BFP…..why is the focus on Thompson?

    The BLP can ENACT legislation BEFORE the next Election.

    The father of First world Barbados and Prime Minister for Life(according to Royalrumble…Syllie),has the Power and can move heaven and earth to enact Integrity Legislation.

    Is that not better than anything Thompson can produce?

  10. Anonymous

    If the BLP were serious then they would show themselves to be.

  11. Red Lake Lassie

    DLP supporters have problems when Barbados Free Press holds the opposition to account in the same way they do for the government. This girl for one agrees with BFP that the DLP should have produced its promised legislation to the public. The issue of integrity is so important that I want to see what Thompson intends before I decide to believe him. Or not.

    Wait 6 months for legislation after electing a DLP government? Nonsense! They should be ready to introduce the legislation now. This is nonsense and this girl is not falling for it.

  12. akabozik

    BFP is not “focusing on Thompson” like Hants say. BFP is equal between Arthur and Thompson. Hants think that Thompson should be held to a lower standard because he is not the PM, but he can show us his legislation anytime. He don’t.

  13. reality check

    their promises, even in writing aren’t worth the paper or loopholes they are printed on.

    Aside from that fact, Owen will have to lie from the get go or give away his assets back to his friends offshore.

    This will occur just shortly after the fairy princess turns the both of them into men of integrity and conviction.

  14. Wishing in Vain

    It seems to me that the blp and Owing are corrupt and lacking in direction, we see that Mr David Thompson speaks of the reform of the civil service on Saturday night and on Sunday Owing puts it in his speech!!!
    Just as we have been saying if the DLP displays too much of its programs the blp will snatch them and claim them as theirs.
    Is this the action of a progressive party or the actions defunct, rambling and corrupt group of loafers?

  15. Anonymous

    Thompson and Arthur don’t have any integrity legislation because they haven’t bothered to create it yet.

    Their promises are not promises to introduce something that is already created and known, their “promises” are only that promise to get to work after they get the keys to the treasury.

  16. Hants

    Plain and simple.

    The present BLP majority Government of Barbados can ENACT Integrity legislation before the next election.

    Promises spoken or written are not enforceable.

    The BLP has an opportunity to get thousands of votes by…
    Enacting Integrity Legislation.

  17. Show Me!

    SHOW ME, MR. THOMPSON!

    SHOW ME, MR. ARTHUR!

    Show me the law you will pass.

  18. Show Me!

    The BLP would get my vote only if the legislation is passed before the election.

  19. Littleboy

    BFP
    DLP will not reveal any speciics until election is called!!!
    Last time around, Owen and c0mpany withdrew their first manifesto after the DLP issued its flyers. Do not expect them to be tricked again.
    David made an announcement in Toronto on saturday last and Owen copied it on sunday.
    A few months ago the same thing happened with the housing proposals.

  20. Hants

    Show Me…..I respect your position even though I am a non resident, non voting, DLP supporter.

  21. Wishing in Vain

    If I were a gambler I would place my bets on getting Integrity Legislation enacted with the DLP and not expect the blp to something like this seeing how they have been in power, wealth and control for nearly 15 years and not a move or word in that direction so why now try to fool the citizens of this good land with this load of nonsense?

  22. Yardbroom

    A strange logic is at work here, a Government with an overwhelming majority in Parliament, who has the power, and “can enact” legislation, if it so wishes, is being compared with an opposition party as equals, in terms of enacting Legislation for perceived corruption.

    If it was not so silly, it would be laughable.

    Common sense – which has taken a holiday – is being asked to stand on its head.

    Simply because it is Integrity Legislation, the principle of Parliamentary Democratic Government, seems to have been jettisoned in an effort to make points. There is passion on this issue, because of the perception of large scale corruption – I understand that – but that should never be allowed to stop us thinking clearly.

    We can box ourselves into a silly corner.

    Suppose the BLP says we will enact Integrity Legislation next Parliament, and so does the DLP. Then the question is who do you believe. Is that how the election should be decided. The BLP can do that “now,” they are in Government the DLP cannot, it cannot therefore at this juncture be a question of equals.

    Suppose both BLP and DLP give an undertaking through a form of written words for Integrity Legislation, what then?

    Suppose the BLP says before the next election we will enact Integrity Legislation, does that mean the perception of mass corruption that exist now, will be forgotten, and does not matter?

    Some of us are in danger of writing words, but not working through the logic of what we are writing.

    In a situation of this kind, the BLP and the DLP cannot be treated as equals in terms of Legislative conduct or omission, to suggest so is to blame the Opposition Party, for the perceived omissions and conduct of a Government, with an overwhelming majority – that surely cannot be common sense.

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    BFP comments

    Given that both parties have promised integrity legislation in the past and then not delivered when placed into power, AND given that for both parties this is an election issue – not foundational to the party’s philosophy, voters have a right to declare that they want to see the legislation prior to voting.

    If YOU or Thompson and Arthur want to argue that voters have no right to ask to see such legislation prior to the election, we’ll just have to disagree.

    But BFP will continue to demand to see such legislation prior to the election.

  23. Sargeant

    BFP, for the record Thompson said within six months of being elected, not six months after. I think that your argument that Thompson had enough time to propose legislation is invalid, could you tell me the last time that any legislation proposed by an opposition party has ever been adopted in B’dos. Gov’ts tends not to support any proposals from their political opponents. Opposition MPs can’t even get the roads fixed in their constituences, in some countries private members bill may be passed but these are exceptions. Thompson was never a PM but Arthur is and had ample time to bring forward this legislation why wait until the eve of another election to propose same when his party has been in power for 13 years?

    I see that the PM has also promised to appoint temporary officers to the Civil Service after three years, I’m sure that the union must be happy about that after all haven’t they been agitating for this for some years and by the way didn’t Thompson make a similar promise prior to Arthur’s ? albeit his promise is to appoint temporary officers after two years.

    I am all in favour of legislation relating to integrity and conflict of interest, however I would have to see any proposed bill before commenting. If this legislation is enacted without tough enforcement tools and checks and balances where does that leave us? Isn’t the Auditor General conferred with powers of investigation and reporting to Parliament of inappropriate spending in Gov’t departments, when last have you seen a meaning ful report?

    Forget all the rhetoric when elections are called I would like to see the leaders debate on tv, that way they can defend their proposals and records before a national audience, however this is only a pipe dream as that calls for impartial/independent journalists to moderate and I don’t think that you can find any in B’dos.

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    BFP Comments

    BFP continues to demand to see legislation prior to the election.

  24. anon

    dont we already have a form of integrity legislation in the Prevention of Corruption Act

  25. Adrian Hinds

    dont we already have a form of integrity legislation in the Prevention of Corruption Act
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    We do but given what the DPP seems caught up in, nothing can come of it.

  26. Jerome Hinds

    BFP,

    I expressed to you before that your ranting & raving on this issue has long gone past being nonsensical .

    Go back and read your headline to the article above…..do you feel satisfied that proper ventilation have been given by the PM on that $ 750,000.00 cheque ?

    But yet you rushed to publish a story about Dominica’s PM being accused for purchase expensive parcels of land on a PM’s salary !

    Did Owen Arthur salary up to the time ( May 2003 ) that this $ 750,000.00 cheque was depoisted in his private account…..able to support this sum of money ?

    But such is of no interest to. you….only David Thompson’s views on Intergrity legislation !

    Oh…..how brilliant !

  27. Jerome Hinds

    deposited

  28. Show Me!

    Jerome Hinds is telling a fib.

    BFP has been critical of the PM and his corrupt government moreso than any other Bajan media. Did the DLP expect a free ride from BFP with nothing more than promises?

    I want to see the legislation from both parties before I vote because there is real integrity legislation and there is watered-down fake legislation.

    The DLP’s position is that there should be no debate prior to the election about what makes for effective integrity legislation. I’ve been burned enough by listening to people say “trust us, we’re different”.

    SHOW ME if you wnat ma vote.

    DLP getting arrogant that they deserve ma vote only on a promise. Arrogant because they think they are the only choice. Arrogant because they expect to be elected because they are the only other choice besides the government.

    Arrogance is what I here from Hinds and the DLP

  29. Jerome Hinds

    Show Me!
    October 29th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
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    Not so fast !

    Let Owen publish the anti – price gouging legislation first !

    A few weeks ago he said it cannot work !

    Now yesterday…..with his back against the wall he says it is coming in a six point plan !

    A few months ago Owen said no to Integrity Legislation !

    Now that the whole country is concerned about corruption…..Owen says he ready to implement such legislation !

    Before he implement such get him to tell the country about :

    GEMS ! QEH ! CBC ! GREENLAND ! WARRENS BUILDING ! UDC ! HARDWOOD !

    Show Me!

    These are no……FIBS !

    THESE ARE REALLLLL…….!

  30. Wishing in Vain

    The entire operation of the blp is built around flair and exciting talk, really what is needed is a good clean out of closet of the blp if they were honest with themselves Owing is the director, composer, lead singer, drum man, the piano man because he wants to have the control of the money projects to redirect funding to his St.Peters Development committee to the tune of multi million, but also to because of the limitations of his appointed ministers, look at them, Lynch, Marshall, Payne, Toppin, Lashley, Edghill, Mottley, Walcott, Eastmond they are either non functioning or stopped functioning a long time ago.
    Why would we even be so careless to elect those like Eastmond,Lashley, Toppin,Mottley, Marshall who have all been put out to pasture by Owing what are we to want them to idle for another 5 years not this time!!!
    They need to have 30 elected officials in the house that will put the peoples business ahead of their own business needs and the only method to make this a reality is to elect the DLP in large numbers, vote for the DLP from 6.00 am until 6.00 pm on the day of the election.

  31. Jerome Hinds

    The DLP position has always been and will remain on this issue…..that such declaration of Assets legislation will be adopted .

    First, by the DLP candidates once they have all been duly nominated to contest the elections for the various constituencies.

    No elections have been called as yet……so it is Owen Arthur who HOLDING up the DLP on this on !

    Secondly, within 6 – 12 months of been in office the DLP will implement major Integrity Legislation after wide consultation with all stakeholders.

    I believe that those calling for the adoption of such legislation are aware that Integrity Legislation INVOLVES both Private & public sector individuals .

    For example, our Governor of the Central Bank, Head of our Security Exchange etc must be included in any aspect of our Integrity Legislation rules . The same extends to our judiciary and Head of Private Sector agencies.

    If this was not the case…….chances are that such legislation would have been adopted long time ago.

    The FEAR Owen Arthur has is this……if he wishes to receive more $ 750,000.00 cheques how to do this and avoid detection by our Central Bank…..if Integrity Legislation Laws are in place….!

    For those doubting THOMASES…..how do you think Basdeo Panday was caught….????

    Lawerence Duprey ( CL FINANCIAL Group )
    $ 100,000.00 plus ” gift ” to Panday was not DISCLOSED to the T & T Integrity Commission by Basdeo Panday…..but because Integrity Legislation often includes persons in the Private sector……Lawerence Duprey ( CL FINANCIAL Group ) “gift ” to Panday was NOTED…..!

    In the absence of Integrity Legislation…..how do we know who gave Owen that $ 750,000.00 cheque ?

    Unless Owen tells us…..but remember he is REAL……SAVVY !

  32. tigeral

    It seems the constitution of Barbados allow for private citizens bringing forth bills in Parliament. (apparently the old Mutual co. did some time ago).
    maybe BFP blog can put together the legislation they would like to see and see if they can get a sponsor. It would be a brave politician to go against a fair and properly thought out draft.
    2 million readers? powerful constituency!!

  33. Anonymous

    Show Me!

    ” Arrogance is what I here from Hinds and the DLP ”

    ” Jerome Hinds is telling a fib. ”

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    Not so fast !

    Back up a bit !

    Owen said a few months back that Price Controls were USELESS !

    Elections around the corner he says Price Controls will be put in a 6 point plan !

    Owen said that his Ministers & himself are HONEST…no need for Integrity Legislation Laws !

    With the $ 750,000.00 CHEQUE & HARDWOOD…..Owen says he is ready to implement Integrity Legislation !

    Show Me!

    YESSSSS…..ARROGANCE…..on Owen’s part…..!

    NOOOOO….FIBS….on Jerome Hinds’ part…..!

  34. reality check

    Integrity Legislation is not rocket science. There are many countries with good solid integrity legislation such as the recent legislation passed in Canada,

    It would take the DLP about 10 minutes to download it and a weekend for their members to go over it and decide what fits and what doesn’t.

    This would take the DLP being proactive and involve a leadership element.

    Don’t hold your breath.

  35. Wishing in Vain

    Tell me about one single project that Mottley has been involved with that he has managed successfully?
    EDUTECH ? PRISON ? BURNING DOWN OF THE PRISON ? THE VISA FIASCO OF CWC ? THE FIASCO OF THE WHOLE SECURITY OF CWC ? MINISTRY OF CULTURE ? THE CBC SCAM ?
    Have you gotten my point as yet not one ministry that he has abused has he done anything uplifting for the department, Noeless Lynch we have not forgotten you, your turn will come sooner rather than later.
    He too must be considered a failure of major proportions having failed in every ministry he has had the misfortune to oversee.
    Next we will address the stewardship or lack thereof of other members of this sick adminstration.

  36. Show Me!

    DLP’s position is not good enough. Must “consult with stakeholders”

    What kind of bullsh*t is that?

    Why haven’t they done this consulting all last year? Why haven’t they put rules in place for their own people?

    Bullsh*t! Tired of so much bs.

  37. Adrian Hinds

    Hant i agree with you, I agree with Show me also. Heck i even agree with BFP for making demands of the DLP in this regard.

    Never one to give a short answer when the correct one is needed. 😀 😀

    The truth is that the BLP is the party that first made overtones to institute integrity legislation, which the DLP staunchly opposed. So it stand to good reason that “show me” approach makes more sense, the BLP had 13 years, and complete control of parliament to pass the relevant laws. They should NOT be allowed to make a promise to enact the law in the next constituted parliament after elections, when they are the power brokers in the CURRENT one. The DLP shouldn’t be given a pass either, but remember a promise is nothing more than than that. The list is long of pre-election promises and very short on post-election implimentation. So i join “SHOWME” in his/her approach. If the DLP is elected i will stand with ” SHOWME” and demand that they enact the relevant legislation, and stand ready to vote in the next election on that single issue, and if they enact it great but i will not be rewarding them for so doing either. It is simply the right thing to do and no kudos and or rewards should be expected, in fact i think public service and the current high price we pay the political class for the little that do, should go without any accolades and or awards, their current pay should be enough.

  38. Wishing in Vain

    How does this call come down to Integrity Legislation versus blatant and obvious levels of corruption and kickbacks in all these projects conducted by Owing and company.
    What are we suggesting that as we have it in the absence of Integrity Legislation it is ok for Owing to steal as he has done but we will not vote in the the DLP until they enact Integrity Legislation?
    Well give them the chance to gain power and do the job and enact it!!!

  39. james

    It is hard to express how much I enjoy it when Barbados Free Press manages to really irritate both hard core DLP and BLP supporters on this issue. The BLP have more to prove in my book since they’ve had 10 years and done nothing but the Dems are still passing up one sure-fire opportunity to attract the undecided vote. It’s simple people: publish a clear piece of integrity legislation good to go before the election, add firm commitments on timing (not 6 months after elections, lets’s call it 60 days) and get everyone running on the ticket to declare their assets pre-election and you’ve got my vote. Anything less is a sham. And if Wishing In Vain writes one more rambling defence of the half-hearted treatment of integrity legislation by Thompson, I will get into the Extra Old even earlier than usual.

  40. Hants

    The DLP cannot ENACT legislation.
    The BLP can ENACT Legislation.
    End of story.
    Get it?

  41. reality check

    oh we get it!

    They can still introduce it into Parliament even if they haven’t got enough votes at the moment!!!

  42. james

    Hants, you’re absolutely right but it’s the beginning of the story, not the end. The DLP could introduce integrity legislation and can you imagine the implications if the BLP voted against it. Now THAT would be the end of the story – for the B’s at least. Regardless of whether the D’s are in power, there’s a bunch of things they could and should do to demonstrate a commitment other than quite frankly pathetic, vague promises.

  43. james

    Ah, sorry Hants, I did start on the Extra Old too early. I see what you mean.

  44. Bush tea

    BFP
    Your intransigence on this matter is nothing less than impressive. Like a pit bull in heat. (imho)

    OK – I for one, am prepared to work with you on this matter…. But I have one concern

    Should not the PEOPLE of Barbados outline what laws THEY want these parties to enact? Your call for this legislation is all well and good, but if the OFFICIALS who are charged with ENFORCING the law themselves are suspect (as we know can happen) we are back to square one.

    How about some of our bloggers doing some research to find the different approaches taken by other countries who have this legislation, and helping us to understand the various possibilities.

    I am not happy to leave it to the ‘accused’ to design the court system themselves. Obviously they would look for the most accommodating model for their own ends.

    If we can decide on a model that we the people like, then we can INSIST that this is what we WANT enacted OR ELSE…

  45. Jane

    To Bush Tea

    If we study the National Integrity Systems Questionnaire Caribbean Composite Study 2004 prepared by Transparency International, it is quite clear where our weaknesses lie.

    Perhaps this might be a good place to start. The Barbados study begins on page 75.

    http://www.transparency.org/content/download/1640/8341/file/carib_compos_q.pdf

  46. Bush tea

    Many thanks for that reference Jane…. extremely interesting and revealing reading (just a quick first pass)
    First impression is of a banana republic glibly operating on good faith. Certainly supports BFP’s strong stance on the need for laws and systems to be put in place.
    Now I would like to see what a good model looks like…

  47. Sargeant

    In these blogs sometimes you have to sift through the chaff to get to the wheat and we should all thank Jane for that submission. I note the study was completed in 2004 and I haven’t done a thorough review of the content but the initial reading is very interesting.

    Thanks again Jane

  48. paul sealy

    yeah yeah,right right…same old crap…nothing new to see here..move along..damn shame.

  49. Jerome Hinds

    Good link provided , Jane.

    As I pointed out earlier , Integrity Legislation requires a wholistic approach to governance. There is a wide body of stakeholders……..that goes beyond politicians .

    The DLP has pledged to implement the process, once voted into office.

  50. theNickster

    It says you can sue the government, for the abuse of rights even for the “suspected” abuse (Nice one Jane!). Of course which lawyer will you hire in THAT case?, going up against the big bad DPP himself. We as citizens do have power but its like having to assemble a gun and the BLP are holding the more important pieces. If Thompson wants my vote he’s going to have to make noise where it counts, like making motions in parliament. Even if it gets voted against the publicity will do some damage to the BLP’s facade.

  51. Littleboy

    Anyone game for a bet?
    Arthur will not allow the no-confidence debate against Mascoll, because the Hardwood issue and other infelicities will be brought to light.
    I bet he will call elections before the 30 day deadline?
    Bets anyone???

  52. Wishing in Vain

    http://www.dlpbarbados.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=vie
    w&id=160&Itemid=2

    http://www.dlpbarbados.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=vie
    w&id=161&Itemid=2

    Simply put you look and listen to the four websites above and if after anyone can still vote for that joker ASSCOLL then both that person and ASSCOLL are warped and sick persons.

    He has squirmed and wiggled his way to a point of financial comfort with the assistance of Owing and at the peril and disgust of Mottley and the rest of the party, do you or anyone else really believe that the rest of the party will sit back and allow him to walk over them on his march to financial satisfaction?

    No way will they allow him to do so, I suggest to you that the rest of the blp with maybe just maybe the exception of Owing are waiting and hoping for his demise at the polls there is no way that the rest of them will be satisfied with him overtaking their desire of power.

    More importantly the other factor of the election surely must be the tardiness and general apperance of a tired looking and performing Owing, tired is clearly manifested in his tired and lack lustre speech of Sunday where he adopted Mr David Thompson’s speech of the night before as part of his speech, what does that tell you? it tells me that here is a leader you has dried up of ideas and programs and one who’s blindfolding of John Public is no longer working and as a result he is stuggling to change gears he has been stung by the revelations of that cheque the gross mismanagement of the affairs of the island, the corruption and dishonesty in gov’t which he has been a part of, the affairs of VECO, the PRISON, ROAD WORKS 3 S, DANOS and the KICKBACK AGREEMENT, the lack of pay for the civil servants,the baths,the CWC, the Alleyne affair, the Hammy Lashley affair, the Oval Fiasco all of these are causes for the weakness of Arthur.

    He has overseen a structure where has allowed for wholesale corruption by he and his closest partners like Shorey, Wilkinson, Cox, Bannister, Nicholls and more recently ASSCOLL, they have been allowed a free hand to overcharge or be on the inside of deals only known to the PM.

    A classic example why would the PM send a message out to a land owner asking what his selling price for the land is when told the price, Owings ambassador tells the land owner the Gov’t will pay you double price for the land (cost of $ 8 million) if he agrees to pass back the overpayment of $ 4 million to he Owings account!!

    This is but one example of the nature and the extent and manner of their stealing in this gov’t it has reached a new high and will contiue to grow if it is not addressed and if they are not removed from office and power.

    The Owing Arthur administration has served its time in office the first two terms they did a good job but the flood gates opened wide this term and they have shown themselves to be the most dishonest bastards in politics, with an abundance of infighting and hatred among sitting members and they are being led by a dishonest drunkard who has served his time and is obviously devoid of new ideas that he is now resorting to rehash Mr Thompson’s speeches of the night before, you can do better than this Owing the question is do you still have the will or the reason to do it, my verdict is that he has exhausted his energy on doing his personal money making deals and has extended a lot of effort to keep them out of the public domain but they keep cropping up just like VECO and the Cheque and DANOS all did.

  53. Adrian Hinds

    Littleboy
    October 30th, 2007 at 11:04 am
    Anyone game for a bet?
    Arthur will not allow the no-confidence debate against Mascoll, because the Hardwood issue and other infelicities will be brought to light.
    I bet he will call elections before the 30 day deadline?
    Bets anyone???
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    I don’t agree. First ask yourself what is a no-confidence vote? The only time the party whip failed in a no confidence vote was with Sandi. Some people say that that parliament then had members who were willing to vote their conscience, and so the result showed. This current parliament does not have those kind of members, therefore, at the end of the grandstanding, revelations, etc the vote will be strickly along party lines, the people will not be any more informed and Mascoll will be free to spin from the platform as if nothing had been said about Hardwood. Remember we had a no confidence vote brought by Mascoll against Owen i believe and what came of that? Nobody will be afraid of the “No confidence motion” as long as their parliamentary party collegues has their back. The only thing this motion does is bring the hardwood debate out of the public domain into parliament where parliamentary imunity will allow for more fodder. Wait that might be one thing that sinks Mascoll further, but the people can be made to forget. 😀 The BLP will be the wrong move for him, in the medium and long term, he is probably being blinded to this by short-term success.

  54. Adrian Hinds

    theNickster
    October 30th, 2007 at 10:56 am
    It says you can sue the government, for the abuse of rights even for the “suspected” abuse (Nice one Jane!). Of course which lawyer will you hire in THAT case?, going up against the big bad DPP himself. We as citizens do have power but its like having to assemble a gun and the BLP are holding the more important pieces. If Thompson wants my vote he’s going to have to make noise where it counts, like making motions in parliament. Even if it gets voted against the publicity will do some damage to the BLP’s facade.
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    It is interesting what this article says, i have some old emails from a list server conversations between Thompy, Wickham, Elombe Mottley, and a Depeiza person which discuss at lenth these very same things. I can only imagine that if Thompson becomes the PM that he would have a very good understanding of what needs to be done, he discuss it at length back in 1999.

  55. more

    Adrian Hinds says “I can only imagine that if Thompson becomes the PM that he would have a very good understanding of what needs to be done, he discuss it at length back in 1999.”

    He has an understanding NOW, has had this understanding for long time (since 1999 you say), so what is keeping him all this time from presenting at least a draft?

  56. Unapologetic

    BFP…
    I applaud you in your stance of asking both BLP and DLP to put up or shut up. The fact is though, that the only Party which can pass anything before an election is the BLP. Even if Thompson shows you what you want to see, that won’t hold him to passing it into law in 30 days or six months. Fact is, Thompson is in opposition and that means you still have to trust that he is not lying. Fact is though, that you already know what Owen is doing. He is on record saying that Barbados has not had/does not have politicians that need integrity legislation. Yet all of a sudden he is promising to pass some. He is only waiting ’till Thompson speaks, and attempting to backraise DLP stated policies, remember his previous statements on price controls. He said no way.
    Lets face it, it’s either BLP or DLP, there is no Utopia, so work with it or forget it.

  57. Wishing in Vain

    Unapologetic
    Recently the more I am hearing and seeing Arthur the more I am seeing him rehashing Mr Thompson’s ideas and policies.

    More importantly the other factor of the election surely must be the tardiness and general appearance of a tired looking and performing Owing, tired is clearly manifested in his tired and lack lustre speech of Sunday where he adopted Mr David Thompson’s speech of the night before as part of his speech, what does that tell you? it tells me that here is a leader you has dried up of ideas and programs and one who’s blindfolding of John Public is no longer working and as a result he is stuggling to change gears he has been stung by the revelations of that cheque the gross mismanagement of the affairs of the island, the corruption and dishonesty in gov’t which he has been a part of, the affairs of VECO, the PRISON, ROAD WORKS 3 S, DANOS and the KICKBACK AGREEMENT, the lack of pay for the civil servants,the baths,the CWC, the Alleyne affair, the Hammy Lashley affair, the Oval Fiasco all of these are causes for the weakness of Arthur.

  58. Unapologetic

    The thing about perceived corruption is that for politicians to get away with it, they must be aided and abetted by civil servants and others in positions of high office or authority. Integrity legislation will have to have ramifications for more than just MPs, but if it starts with them, then they would have to be the ones to ensure that others below them are called to account.
    Then the political party system is largely based on the corrupt notion of quid pro quo, you scratch my back, and when I call the shots I’ll scratch yours even if it means defrauding the taxpayers.
    It is easy to pass legislation overnight, especially if you want legislation replete with loopholes. It is quite another thing to set out to transform a culture of corruption into one of integrity and honesty.
    Truth be told, there are many Barbadians that benefit from and want the corruption to continue. Their turn at the trough, so to speak. For Thompson to change this is a monumental task and in my view, will put him on par with development contributors such as the late Errol Walton Barrow.
    Owen has spent most of his time on the CSME, and that is his legacy, which to many locals doesn’t count for much.

  59. theNickster

    If the newspaper was accurate in the turn out at the BLP rally/speech/thing, then it tells me there is a long road ahead for us as a nation. I am confounded as to the nature of person(s) who can see so many wrong doings and still support the perpetrator. Slogans and rhetoric? thats the BLP’s campaign? I’m watching people still lap up the drivel, still hearing people defend Owing. I scoff at the notion of a “Party Loyal” are these people blind?, owing surely can’t be paying all of them?

    …..can he?

  60. Avatar Gurl

    oy oy oy….

    Well, if they are blind, they cannot see…and no Lasic ™ surgery is going to make them!

  61. paul sealy

    good point theNickster…unfortunately i was told nearly three quarters of those people in that room aren’t too bright and half don’t have access to the internet so….what do you expect??

  62. Inkwell

    That’s right Paul, them dim witted morons at the BLP conference could be nothing like the crowd of brightest and smartest who attended the Deacons Road meeting.

    If they didn’t have access to the free education you did, what do you expect??

  63. To the point

    I think the pm will call David’s bluff and David will back down from the no confidence motion or he will be mince meet in the house when Owen Arthur finish with him and his pack of coons

  64. To the point

    people, dom you really want to return to those dark days of the Dems, salary cuts and all. The civil servants of this country have it better under the BLP.

  65. Wishing in Vain

    The people are all very ready for a change of gov’t and why do they want this change because your party has gone off track and is no longer effective or caring but more importantly the real reason being the self inflicted damages that they have inflicted with the clearly to be seen corruption and dishonesty while in office.
    Simple as that, they have done what they have wanted to do and that is raping the treasury and it has been exposed and brought to light and the people are annoyed and fustrated with their manner and style!!!

  66. Hants

    “the Prime Minister said that a holistic approach to the issue of corruption would be undertaken by Government either at the end of this term or if re-elected, instead of a knee-jerk response.
    Instead, Arthur noted that the issues of corruption and integrity did not only apply to elected officials, but were necessary across the board, and that any legislation should have both domestic and international validity and application. The Prime Minister admitted that the present corruption legislation was outdated, and said that Government planned to repeal and replace it with a new Act that is based on the United Nations Convention Against Corruption. In the event that it does not reach Parliament in this term, it will be the FIRST order of business of the new Labour Party administration in its fourth term, he pledged.”

    Another “googly” from the PM.

  67. Wishing in Vain

    http://www.dlpbarbados.org/cms/

    When I stated that Arthur is a tired spent example of a Prime Minister and his error to rehash Mr Thompson’s statement of Saturday night with regard to making part time workers of the Civil Service full time workers is yet another example of his tardiness and his tiredness, the site above gives you access to Mr David Thompson’s speech of last Saturday night.

  68. Jerome Hinds

    Hants…..you mean another DOODLE from the PM such crap cannot be described as a GOOGLY !

  69. Wishing in Vain

    I will tell you what Owing certainly has ASSCOLL by the short and curly, Owing must have planned it to include ASSCOLL in one of the blp scams seeing how he ASSCOLL used to describe the scams and dishonest acts that the blp undertook when he was on the otherside,so Owing has skillfully included him in his own act of dishonesty and corruption called HARDWOOD HOLDINGS to show he ASSCOLL and the rest of the island just how easy it is to make him part of their corruption and just how dishonest ASSCOLL really is and how deeply involved with the mess that is HARDWOOD HOLDINGS he is no more pointing fingers now ASSCOLL you are just as dirty as all of them.
    Wishing in Vain // Nov 3rd 2007 at 11:19 am

    I want to know why when the NATION was advised earlier this week that MURRELL was going to be going before the courts on Tuesday that the NATION refused to cover the story?
    Is this really the coverage of the news that we pay for or that we expect?
    I say far from we can do a lot better that this, I am wondering when Roxanne Gibbs asked Hoyte to attempt to do a job to destroy Mr Thompson will now do the sensible thing and have him write a story about Owing See Thru Arthur?

  70. Jerome Hinds

    A BLP party HACK was heard saying today that after questioning Owen about the $ 750,000.00 CHEQUE……. ” his answer was SLOW in forthcoming and lacked CONFIDENCE ” !

    A PATHTETIC tief Owen is !!!!

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