Barbados Association Of Professional Engineers’ Report Part Of A New Cultural Demand For Accountability, Transparency

A media release and a damning report by the Barbados Association of Professional Engineers would not have happened a year ago.

That is the assessment of two of the professional engineers who spoke with Barbados Free Press and provided BFP with two different draft reports last week – well before the “official” media release yesterday.

As mentioned in BFP’s October 6, 2007 story Secret Report: Barbados Association Of Professional Engineers “Grave Concern About Public Safety Of Flyovers And ABC Highway Expansion”, the association yesterday released a statement that, while focusing on the project, is in fact as hard-hitting a condemnation of the Barbados government’s mismanagement, incompetence and corruption as we have seen from a non-partisan professional association.

Here are the final words of the statement…

These queries simply serve to underscore the primary concern BAPE has held from the inception of this project, namely the absence of a technical and economic feasibility study preceding the project.

Perhaps the time has arrived when designs for significant public project be made easily accessible (e.g. via the Internet) for critical review prior to their construction. The environmental and social impact studies for these projects should be made similarly available.

BAPE is mindful of its obligation to highlight issues which it believes present a potential threat to public safety. The design of all projects, particularly large, public infrastructure projects, should be critically reviewed before construction starts.

One likely outcome of the failure to ensure the project has been planned using sound technical and financial principles is an increase in cost beyond the planned budget, when deficiencies must be corrected, or additional work is forced to be added to the scope.

Roger Blackman
President – BAPE
http://www.bape.org

BAPE Executive Are National Heroes

Every citizen of Barbados knows what courage, determination and sense of duty that it took for the BAPE to produce such a public statement. From our sources we are aware of the incredible pressures that the BAPE was under as government attempted all weekend to have the media release gutted.

In our oppressive culture where there is a well-founded fear of reprisal from the government, more and more citizens are speaking out with the best interests of our country and our fellow citizens in mind.

While there is no doubt that the recent rise of citizen journalism on the internet has accelerated this process, the simple truth is that the vast majority of Bajans are so sick and tired of government corruption that the floodgates are cracking. Our culture is changing. Citizens always knew there was corruption, but they are now finding the courage and the outrage to demand transparency and accountability of public officials.

Make no mistake: this is a huge cultural change. Elected and appointed public officials ignore it at their peril.

The Nation News reported on the BAPE’s statement with the article BAPE Fear. The article has been (of course) toned down somewhat and is short on detail.

You really owe it to Barbados, yourself and the courageous folks at the Barbados Association of Professional Engineers to go to their website, download the PDF and to read their report in full. (BAPE website link here. PDF Report link here)

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70 responses to “Barbados Association Of Professional Engineers’ Report Part Of A New Cultural Demand For Accountability, Transparency

  1. Frankology

    It is a known fact that Government has entered a BOLT (Build, operate, lease and transfer) through a Memorandum of Understanding with the contractor responsible for the Highway. It is a fact that this will be a 25-year transaction. We know as a simple man on the street that any lease arrangement between two entities must be cemented with some sort of signing. We know that you will not sign on a blank paper and give the landlord authority to fill in the dollars after the your signing.
    Now let us get down to reality. We hear of triple cost totaling $360 million, we hear of the Minister’s statement of around $240 million. We have not heard of the yearly repayment to the operator or if this yearly payment will surpass the maximum figure of $360 million. Remember, if this Memorandum of Understanding do not stipulate that the cost will not increase, then the operator has all right to increase repayment down the road. Now, if the Memorandum of Understanding stated that the operator will be the OWNER of the highway until it is transfer to the other party, which is the Government of Barbados. We are assured that all repairs or litigations will be the sole responsibility of the Operator.

  2. BFP

    Frankology…

    The Bajan people are not “assured” of anything!

    Crooks are building the highway, so why do you think they will repair it?

    Are you saying that the government is off the hook of any litigations because the paper company that is building the highway indemnified Barbados?

    Please!… Produce the written agreement that your fanciful words are based upon.

  3. BFP

    Oh…. we see…

    Everything is secret. No contract shall be seen by the public who have to pay for it all.

    Please stop with your polite assurances that our children’s interests are being looked after and we don’t have to be concerned.

    “Assured” What a joke.

  4. Wishing in Vain

    The only thing that we are assured of is massive debts and wholesale corruption.
    That will leave our children and maybe their childrens in debt while the likes of Nicholls, Owing, Bannister have their bank accounts grown thru their corrupt actions.

  5. Frankology

    Dear BFP
    I was just explaining how the bolt arrangement is set up with the highway and prison. I am against any BOLT arrangement; what I was trying to show Barbadians that we might be paying more that the $360 million. You seems not to understand that I am totally against the flyovers; and you will see in all of my posts I have been condemning the scope of work, the lack of tendering, the no-show of an Impact Study and most of all the suspension of the flyovers. So I would appreciate your explanation of your statement.

    ******************

    Hi Frankology

    We certainly can’t dispute all of the above. What set George off was your statement that Bajans are “assured” that some paper company apparently set up for this one project will look after the road. Simply put… none of us have any idea what is in the contract or agreements between government and??? We don’t even know who the contracts are with!

    So, our apologies if George came on too strong, for he did not give you credit for your very detailed and excellent comments in the past.

    But that’s George for you!

    Marcus

  6. YUM YUM I like it!

    BFP

    “Crooks are building the highway, so why do you think they will repair it?”

    This statement is one step too far, if you are referring to 3S! (If you are referring to the BLP then you could be right)

    ONE director of 3S is ALLEGED to have been involved in a conspiracy to defraud. He has NOT been convicted. To call Mr Danos a crook is to pre-empt justice. Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

    I am tired of these people (AL, BFP, WIV) using him as a scapegoat and as a stick to beat the BLP with. This shows a lack of integrity in those whose opinions I usually admire.

    Please stop the witch hunt against Danos. It serves only to make YOU look foolish. These statements are truly slanderous and libelous.

    It is the responsiblity of BFP to raise itself above the level of the gutter press.

    Anonimity should not mean that you can say just anything!!!

    *****************************

    BFP Comments

    Hi YYILI

    The Crooks are the government officials, elected and appointed, who gave the go-ahead on a third of a billion dollar project with a firm that hadn’t built a thing in its existence, with a director already under a cloud and with so much secrecy and no transparency.

    At a certain point, incompetence becomes criminal. We think that 3S has shown as a company that it is a “crook” by not having its director step down. The whole thing stinks of corruption and 3S is at the center of the corruption.

    Sooooo many companies. Sooooo many hundreds of millions of dollars… all flowing to a brand new company that hasn’t proven itself at all.

    Name one project that 3S has done prior to this third of a billion dollar scandal!

    Yup… 3S walks like a duck and talks like a duck – and we’ll say it again.

    The senior personnel at 3S are part of a criminal conspiracy with crooked members of the Barbados Government.

    Easy enough to disprove that statement… just open the contract documents and the books – including all subcontractor and supplier transactions – to public scrutiny. Post them on the internet.

  7. iRobot

    BFP…

    May I humbly suggest that the editors at BFP begin signing their comments to comments? (e.g. “Marcus”, “George”, et al.) It would be useful to know who “BFP” is for any particular comment (even if only aliases), so that we (your readers) can apply a heuristical perspective to same.

    Please continue fighting the good fight…

    *******************

    bfp george comments

    heuristical is a ten dollar world for sure. had to look it up. We talk about this and it happens sometimes. Problem is we all want to hang together and we don’t want them be able to say “so and so wrote this”. Sometimes we work together on a article too.

    We will talk about it at the next drinkup, i mean “management meeting”

    george

  8. gentle jim

    I would like to add my congrats to BAPE
    It seems that some Bajans do have a backbone.
    However I doubt that it will change anything
    The road will still cost $ 360 million (US PROBABLY) to build.

  9. Adrian Loveridge

    YUM YUM I Like it!

    Fair comments Mr (ms) Yum Yum…

    As you seem to be in the know. Is Mr Danos defending the action taken againist him by Mabey and Johnson and who is/are his legal counsel?

  10. YUM YUM I like it!

    Actually I correct myself in the above comment.

    “These statements are truly slanderous and libelous”

    The comments are either one or the other, but since I am not sure if a blog constitutes speech or a written publication in legal terms we’ll leave it as it is!

    Anyhow, you get my gist.

  11. YUM YUM I like it!

    BFP

    I understand and respect your reply.

    BUT

    “We think that 3S has shown as a company that it is a “crook” by not having its director step down”

    The notion that a company can be called a crook is plainly ridiculous. Companies exist to make profit for their shareholders. They are bound by the laws of the land in which they operate.

    Why should Jonathan Danos step down as a director of 3S? If there was a law saying that all persons ALLEGED to have committed a crime cannot be company directors then fair enough, but THERE IS NOT! (There wouldn’t be many directors around!)

    3S is merely a symptom and not the disease itself!

    You are skirting on the very edge of losing your credibility with this sort of nonsense.

    AND

    Starting to sound like a rumshop drunk.

    Keep it reasoned
    Keep it focussed
    Keep it centred on fact!

    ***************************

    BFP replies

    If a rumshop drunk is appalled that a third of a billion dollar secret (ie: not available for public scrutiny) contract was awarded to a brand new company that hadn’t built a thing before – by a group of elected officials who have proven themselves time and time again to be corrupt, that rumshop drunk is certainly more perceptive than some folks.

    How much corruption will it take before you accept the reality of this government? As to a company not being able to be called a “crook” – can we say “VECO”? It is apparent that 3S was established for the sole purpose of obtaining a lucrative Barbados government contract where NO BIDS WERE INVOLVED.

    FACT: A third of a billion dollar contract just handed to five guys and a paper corporation with zero track record. No bidding necessary. Secret contract. Issued by a few people with power and no accountability under law.

    Uh huh.

    And while you mention it, do any elected or appointed government officials have any shares or interest, directly or indirectly in 3S or any of the subcontractors or suppliers? Perhaps 3S could issue such a public statement as it would go a long way to support the position that you are taking.

    About Danos stepping down… Especially considering the nature of the charges being made against Danos, it causes his current company to be placed under a cloud and undermines his current leadership. Honourable leaders have long understood that stonewalling or saying “wait years for the court process” is often not acceptable when serious allegations are made.

    Nope. The whole thing stinks big time.

  12. Anonymous

    BFP

    If you look at the BAPE website how could you say that BAPE would not have released such a statement prior to last year?

    Have you seen the other articles FROM BEFORE THE PROJECT condeming the proposal?
    Even the Nation archives cary a number of letters and articles from BAPE on this and other issues.
    Some are actually propethic…

    I am PROUD of BAPE.

    …and by the way, i like george bad bad. dat man got SPIRIT…. he from bay land?!?

  13. YUM YUM I like it!

    AL

    Sorry I don’t know this.

    As you have probably read in my previous comments I am convinced that the Mabey and Johnson action is motivated by spite and sour grapes after 3s stole the Barbados contract from under their noses.

    I am convinced (lets be real) that kickbacks, bribes etc have been a part of M&J’s protocol for years all over the developing world (this does not mean I condone it!). I think that Danos just got framed for what would usually go on, PROBABLY with the full knowledge of M&J.
    *********************
    And, to answer a criticism posed by B-F-P:
    “brand new company that hasn’t proven itself at all”
    All companies will perform according to the skills base that they employ.
    All companies have to start somewhere (this seems like a pretty good launching pad to me!).
    I wonder if you would say the same of a brand new private hospital, employing only the best surgeons and medical staff available and the best equipment etc… “Oh! I don’t want my surgery here they have no track record of doing operations”

    How do YOU know who is behind 3S, what their skills are and what collectively they have achieved in the past?

    You don’t!

    ****************************

    BFP Comments…

    “How do YOU know who is behind 3S, what their skills are and what collectively they have achieved in the past? You don’t!”

    GOOD POINT, YYILI… there is zero transparency on this third of a billion dollar project.

    You are also correct that bribes and kickbacks have been part of M&J’s corporate culture for years (like we said, some companies are crooks) and that Danos probably brought that corrupt crooked culture to his new company.

    Certainly the Barbados government crooks embrace that same corrupt culture.

    The difference between your position Yum Yum, and ours is that we refuse to accept it anymore.

    You find the corruption to be a side issue, and not a fundamental impediment to our society and our economy.

    We will just have to continue to disagree.

  14. Corruption at its finest

    As was posted on the BLP blog -:

    Folks it is time to fast forward to Barbados the year is 2007 and we have the blp in power and in rampant control of our purse strings.

    Now how does something that happened in the 60’s and 70’s have any bearing on life in Barbados in 2007 ?

    Nevertheless these things appear meaningless when we start to look at what we have taking place in Barbados in 2007, when each and every project undertaken by this admistration has failed to come in on budget and on time, when we have the PRISON the 3S , DANOS the road works project being overbudget by three times the orginal budget and with much talk making the rounds that there is corruption involved in all these projects, then we have the fiasco that is Hardwood Holdings sending so many mixed signals and having so many questions being asked of them, that it leaves you wanting to know what really is going on in Barbados in 2007.

    This is made even more painful by the fact that not a single minister of gov’t has been prepared to sit down in front of the press and fully explain this perceived corruption in all these wayward projects, it maybe a very worthwhile exercise to be HONEST with the taxpayers every so often.

    May I suggest to you that Mr Mascoll does not represent himself well in front of the press on these matters and he should not be the one used as bullet fodder, this will do more harm than good to the honesty of your party.

    It is high time that we the citizens are brought up to speed on these issues that we are paying for, we want to know if the cost overun was a cost overrun of rather just part of a ploy as DANOS did in Jamaica with his bridge changing price as it developed and his JAMAICA KICKBACK AGREEMENT?

    The Prison why was contract awarded to VECO when local contractors who played a vital role in getting these prisoners relocated to their various locations, in your time of need these local companies stepped up to the plate and served you well and worked 24/7 to provide you and your gov’t with secure facilities for these inmates but when the time right for the awarding of the said prison contract VECO was given it on a platter, where were they when the emergency arose to rehouse the inmates ?

    There is also a lot of rumour making the rounds something about the locals apparently being told that unless a certain party was paid a commission they would not get the work.

    They are many that can confirm the truth of this story about a commission being demanded no lesser a mortal than Sir Charles Williams can attest to this but then again he choose to side with those that were willing to pay Nicholls, Bannister and Owing this commision.

    Can you please also address this cloudy area of concern.

  15. BFP

    BFP Comments…

    “How do YOU know who is behind 3S, what their skills are and what collectively they have achieved in the past? You don’t!”

    GOOD POINT, YYILI… there is zero transparency on this third of a billion dollar project.

    You are also correct that bribes and kickbacks have been part of M&J’s corporate culture for years (like we said, some companies are crooks) and that Danos probably brought that corrupt crooked culture to his new company.

    Certainly the Barbados government crooks embrace that same corrupt culture.

    The difference between your position Yum Yum, and ours is that we refuse to accept it anymore.

    You find the corruption to be a side issue, and not a fundamental impediment to our society and our economy.

    We will just have to continue to disagree.

  16. Wishing in Vain

    I support BFP 100 % on this DANOS 3S nonsense, the sole purpose of the creation of 3S was to carry out their mission of rape on these third world countries with the help of people that are just as dishonest as themselves in the form of Owing, Nicholls, Bannister and Steven Hobson who is a know scam artist, ask the question who brought Danos to Barbados to meet Bizzy and Owing the same Hobson crook these people have conspired to rob and rape the taxpayers of this island by millions of dollars and no side stepping the issue will get it to go away.
    They have been dishonest in their dealings on this matter and their dealings with Hardwood Holdings and until they wakeup and face the firing squad they are going no where fast.

  17. John

    “This is made even more painful by the fact that not a single minister of gov’t has been prepared to sit down in front of the press and fully explain this perceived corruption in all these wayward projects, it maybe a very worthwhile exercise to be HONEST with the taxpayers every so often.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Think back to the early 1990’s and the problems the DLP creatred/faced in its headlong plunge out of office.

    There is a difference between now and then.

    Then, there were individuals in the party who took positions, sometimes comical, maybe out of self interest, but there was no doubt about where they stood.

    Here we appear to have a right old mess and there is not even one member of the ruling party who stands tall and calls a spade a spade.

    … then again, …. maybe we don’t have a right old mess so maybe I am expecting too much!!

    Where is the individual in each of our MPs …. the individual who actually has a position … the individual who is not controlled from GHQ?

    Each is keeping quiet hoping this mess will blow over, but I don’t think it is going to.

  18. Frankology

    Yum Yum, you’re gonna hate dis! But you asked and answered the questions.

    Do you read to see if your post has substance before posting? Your statement confirms that the hospital is employing only the best surgeons and medical staff…. That is a statement of fact. You also admit it. Do we have the curriculum vitae of the top officials of 3S or any past performance of work accomplished that we can substantiate their experience? No
    Next item “How do YOU know who is behind 3S, what their skills are and what collectively they have achieved in the past?
    That is simply what we have been butting our heads to achieve and people like you with in-house information refusing inform the Barbadian public.

  19. Wishing in Vain

    And we thought that you were kidding us, the most comical aspect of this is that the clowns at the blp have them linked to their website, now what picture does that paint for you?
    Birds of a feather flock together my mother would say.

    September 27th, 2007
    The Sad Demise of Barbados Free Press
    Filthy stinking BFP pig.

    Today is the day you will SUFFER.

    Sweet Slaughterhouse September!!!!

    We will OBLITERATE that stinking blog!!!!
    October 7th, 2007
    BFPE launches STING OPERATION against BFP and BU
    We at Barbados Free Press Exposed have stepped up our campaign against Barbados Free Press and Barbados Underground with an ongoing STING OPERATION which aims to publicly expose the identity of the persons running the Barbados Free Press and Barbados Underground blogs.

    Once publicly identified, the operators of BFP and BU, and possibly some of the commentators on those blogs, can then have DEFAMATION SUITS brought against them in the law courts of Barbados.

    The price of a big mouth can cost as much as $60,000 nowadays, as the following news report shows. Starcom Network should be able to survive such a payment…. but we doubt that BFP or BU can do the same. In fact, we doubt that their quality of life will remain the same after they have been publicly exposed.

    We therefore advise visitors to those blogs, for their own protection, to exercise due care with any comments they may leave there.

    BFPE.

  20. YUM YUM I like it!

    “The difference between your position Yum Yum, and ours is that we refuse to accept it anymore.”

    Actually, I agree with you on the abhorent nature of corruption.

    I just don’t want you to lose all your hard-fought credibility making statements which are devoid of the facts and based on theories and allegations.

    Otherwise BFP will start looking like the National Enquirer rather than a serious news and information media.

    That’s all.

    Night Night from me!

    *********************

    BFP says….

    Everything we said is factual, Yum Yum… but we agree it is time to stop the back and forth.

    As Auntie Moses used to say to Shona as part of a bed time poem… “Nighty nighty, don’t let the bedbugs bite!”

    I forget the rest, but we should have Shona write it down before it is forgotten.

    It starts with something like “Lookee here. Lookee there.”

    Can’t remember the rest. Can any of our readers help out?

  21. Hants

    It just occured to me that BFP and DLP supporters come under attack in most cases for asking reasonable questions and stating facts.

    Who pleaded guilty to bribing officials in Alaska?
    The founder of VECO.

    Who has been charged with fraud in a court in England. A “principle of 3S.

    Which companies have contracts with the Barbados Government and have declared cost overruns exceeding 200%.

    Both VECO and 3S.

    BFP did not make this up and neither did I.

  22. iRobot

    BFP…

    Really? A ten dollar word? Does that mean I’m rich? Seriously though… you all need to read The Economist more….

    The fact that your Editorial Board like to hang out together doesn’t mean that each of you can not take ownership of what’s written at any point in time. In the case where it’s a Board position, you can use the handle “BFP.EB”, “Editorial Board”, etc. which will indicate to your readers that you all take responsibility for a particular block of language.

    And while I’m spending my valuable time here, may I ask just who the “they” are that George at BFP spoke to at some point in time in response to my posting of 6:31pm? Are “They” the Government? Are “They” the foreign spies? Are “They” the “Little Green Men”? Are “They” the voices in your head?

    In my (and I know others’) mind, an author who is not willing to stand behind their words is not worthy of having others consider same.

    Consider this.

    ********************************

    BFP Comments

    We are not willing to have agents of the government come for us in the middle of the night without warrant. We are not willing to have the bank refuse to renew our mortgages.

    All of that would happen as you well know if our identities became known.

    Now, where did that $750,000 in the Prime Minister’s personal bank account come from? And where did it go?

  23. Party's over

    “Everything we said is factual”

    Mmmmm…..well let’s think…

    Calling 3s a ‘crooked’ company when only one individual within that company is alleged to have committed a crime is at best an allegation (as YUM YUM indicates).

    It seems to some the word ‘fact’ is open to interpretation.

  24. Rumplestilskin

    The ‘Acid Test’ has got to be the following two questions:

    Why were there not publicised competitive tenders for such a large project and the reasons for awarding to the 3S?

    Why was there such a rush by the Government to sign for the project, before adequate environmental impacts, tender comparisons, traffic flow analyses and publication of the decision?

    Those two questions are significant and should lead to some interesting answers, answers which are critical to an understanding of the whole project rationale.

    Finally, when can we, the citizens of the Nation, expect both an analysis of the project rationale and financial statements, including detailed budgeting, actual costs to date and expected costs to completion.

    Along with the information to be made public should also come an INDEPENDENT analysis of the project from qualified and respected engineers.

    No less than the above information is satisfactory, when dealing with such a large project involving major public funds and major debt repayments.

    It should not be a question of why does the public need this information, it should be a matter of ‘of course the public REQUIRES this information’.

    Representatives of the people, by the people, for the people.

    That is the true definition of Government.

  25. Not the Editor

    yyili

    have you ever encountered a crooked individual or company. Does it not loook, smelll and feeel lite the BLP, 3s and VECO, Harwood etc.

  26. John

    The “desal” plant I suspect …… is suspect!!

  27. YUM YUM I like it!

    Couldn’t sleep

    Had to comment on this:

    “Everything we said is factual”

    Mmmmmm…..

    Calling 3s ‘crooked’ is:

    1) An opinion
    2) An allegation
    3) An accusation
    4) A supposition
    5) An assumption

    What it is most certainly NOT, is a fact!

    I support what you are trying to do but question THESE methods.

    ps I have no inside knowledge.

    *************

    BFP Comments

    6/ A conclusion based upon available facts.

  28. YUM YUM I like it!

    Frankology

    That is funny when you see it that way I suppose!

    🙂

    I was simply trying to illustrate that the fact that a company has no track record is no certain indication of incompitence.

    That’s all.

    If the 3s had only the best surgeons/nurses and medical equipment then THAT would be a certain indication of poor expectations for the road project!!!

  29. Wishing in Vain

    I want to start a quiz and the first question to the nearest million can you guess how much Owing has stolen from us the taxpayers of this island, and a bonus question will be how much he , Bannister and Nicholls have combined to steal from us?
    The truth will be given right after they call the elections and the new Prime Minister Mr David Thompson sets about tracing his Owing’s corruption paper trail, the Cayman bank accounts will be eventually revealed in the fullnest of time.
    I do not fear the destruction of his paper trail because in his arrogance he will not clean out his office as this will conceding defeat to early, but Mr Thompson be at GOV’T HEADQUARTERS AT MIDNIGHT ONCE THE ELECTION RESULT BECOMES CLEAR then he may try to start the process of destroying his paper file, put a full lock down on computers everything that he has for commnication, halt the crime right away.

  30. Wishing in Vain

    The three questions that Adrian Loveridge asks have absoultely no bearing on the building of the flyovers. His continual hounding of Mr Danos a man he does not know and has done him no wrong does him no credit at all.
    Simply because he is charged and is guilty as charged for fraud with taxpayers monies yet this dishonest bastard is in bed with COW, BIZZY, OWING,BANNISTER, NICHOLLS AND HOBSON these people have closed ranks to create a most dishonest grouping of people, when this lot are finished with us the treasury will be broke and we will be the ones asked to prop it up and at what expense?
    This is not like stealing a thousand or two this is stealing in multi millions there in lies the real difference.

  31. Wishing in Vain

    http://www.vob929.com/downloads/battsrock_schematic.pdf

    From what I am seeing in this proposal is that no longer will cars be allowed to drive along the road with the view of the stretch of sea on its side but will now terminate at the bottom of the road with what looks like much less public area for we bajans to use and enjoy, is this what Owing has done to us Barbadians ?
    Sold our beach front lands off to the highest bidder, this could never be a real solution to this problem this is a sell out nothing less nothing more a complete sell out, how can you compare the beautiful drive along the coast line to what they have proposed a road and a turning area, why do we have to give up our rights to the beauty and the access to this lovely area?
    When I listened to Richard Gill on the call in show the other day I withheld my comments but having seen the scam that Pemberton and Patterson have pulled over Owing I am dumbfounded and very dissapointed, I take it that this is not yet passed and that this group of clowns are purely trying this on for fit to test the waters to see if they can get it pass the citizens of this island.
    This is a real disgrace to the average Barbadian that a developer can come here with bags of cash and have Owing and cabinet change and prevent Barbadians from enjoying their scenic drive along the beautiful coast line of Batts Rock, this should never be, this is a disgraceful act of greed and corruption on Owing’s part.

  32. Wishing in Vain

    October 10th, 2007
    BLP SCANDALS JUST WILL NOT GO AWAY
    The questions that David Thompson has asked about the Hardwood Housing Factory Inc. need answers from Owen Arthur without delay. Information on this company should be at the finger-tips of all members of the Cabinet since it is a new company which, we are now told, is government-owned. The look of bewilderment which comes over members of the Barbados Labour Party whenever the word “Hardwood” is mentioned suggests that there are even questions at the highest levels of government about the operations of this new supposedly governmental entity.

    It is known, for certain, that two members of this government know the full details – and many more than were raised by the Opposition Leader – in relation to Hardwood. And they must be made accountable. For example, since when was it the policy of Enterprise Growth Fund Limited to invest over 90% of the equity in a company? Are there any other companies given such a facility? Also, if the company was always to be government-owned why go through the Enterprise Growth Fund Limited? Why not establish it the same way in which Barbados Tourism Investment Inc., Barbados Agricultural Management Company, Hotels & Resorts Limited and so on were established?

    The last week has been spent exposing the cracks, fissures and weaknesses of the government’s attempts to belatedly establish and maintain integrity in public life. It can’t be good enough for the government – even if it is on its last legs – to come to the public at the eleventh hour and under pressure to put into the public domain things that could have been said long ago unless they have something to hide.

    But there is more: Owen Arthur sought to give the public the impression that the Public Accounts Committee was doing no work. Just two months ago, that Committee, which includes senior Ministers of government including Reggie Farley, Lynette Eastmond, Erskine Griffith, Trevor Prescod and Kerrie Symmonds, laid a Report in parliament which had to be written for the sorry period when Clyde Mascoll was Leader of the Opposition. So the idea that the Committee has not reported is simply not true.

    We wonder what those senior Ministers were saying and feeling on Sunday in Christ Church as Owen Arthur was berating the Committee in public? We wonder whether they did not want to stand up and be counted and let the Prime Minister know that Hardwood has laid no financial reports which can be examined!

    The information on Hardwood is clear. Owen Arthur must answer some questions about the four pavilions, the land at Four Hill, St. Peter, the lease-back of equipment, the treatment of workers, the employment of illegal workers and the breaches of the Factories Act. These questions become even more relevant now that it has been publicly stated that Hardwood is a government-owned company. Does the Prime Minister condone these practices? We hope not. And that is why an investigation is appropriate.

    There is now a long list of issues which the public has to judge this government on. Only this week the Barbados Association of Professional Engineers raised their concerns about the flyover project. Will the government heed their concerns or will it rush ahead with this already over-priced project?

    David Thompson has already said that the next election will be the flyover election in which there will be much “election fat” from the project. But added to this is the Veco/Prison scandal, the Greenland expenditure, the NHC building scandal, the scandal over the Gems Hotels, the Urban Development Commission scandals, the golden showers at Silver Sands and so many, many others.

    All of the money wasted in these projects could have gone to improving health and the QEH, paying civil servants on time, improving education and rural roads, poverty alleviation and the like. Instead of this, there is a small clique of beneficiaries who have continued – without being elected – to make decisions.

    We thank those members of the Barbados Labour Party – who care more about Barbados than any party – and who are saying enough is enough and who have been willing to assist us in this cause.

    On Sunday night at Deacons Corner, you will hear more!

  33. Wishing in Vain

    Just when we thought it could get no worst here we go again.

    Jonathon Danos’s Former Employer, Mabey’s & Johnson Suspended From Flyover Project~Accused Of Using Poor Quality Steel, What Steel Are We Using On The Barbados Flyover Project Mr. Danos?
    October 10th, 2007 · 2 Comments
    British contractor suspended over Iloilo flyover project

    By David Israel Sinay
    Visayas Bureau
    Last updated 04:20pm (Mla time) 10/10/2007

    ILOILO CITY, Philippines — The Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) has suspended the British contractor of a flyover project in Iloilo City due to alleged discrepancies in some portions of the project, its central office has said.

    The DPWH reached the decision after it found out that the contractor for the P400-million project, Mabey and Johnson Ltd., failed to comply with the project’s specifications, including the required strength of reinforced bars of the piers, said Rolando Asis, DPWH regional director.

    The piers hold the columns supporting the flyover structure.

    Asis said that the contractor failed to meet the requirement of the flyover’s tensile strength and yielding point of “Grade 60.”

    READ MORE: Inquirer Philippine

    We read of a report from Hill-Carnes, the engineering company contracted by 3S Barbados, to carry out geological work on the integrity of the foundation of the flyovers and 4 lane highway. How convenient it seems that for months Barbadians have been clamoring for information and at this late hour the snippets of information is starting to slowly roll-out. Lets get down to brasstacks: Barbadians want to see a copy of the report Hill-Carnes, and NOW!

    Bizzy Williams please confirm the grade steel you intend to use in the piers on the Barbados flyovers, Barbadians want to know, NOW!

    Question, Questions, Questions, Barbadians want Answers, Answers, Answers.

    Previous Stories

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    Clyde Mascoll Needs Only Three Minutes To Do Damage Control On 3S Barbados SRL

    Nation Newspaper Finally Awakes From A Deep Slumber By Publishing The 3S Barbados SRL, Jonathan Danos Story ~ Can They Stay Awake?

    The Truth, The Whole Truth And Nothing But The Truth About The Operations Free Flow Project In Barbados. Will It Ever Be Told?

    Operations Free Flow Should Be Stopped NOW Pending A Further Geo-technical Study Media Houses In Barbados In Collusion With Government To Suppress News, Press Freedom Under Threat ~ The Voices Of The People Must Be Heard

    Gline Clarke And Rihanna Tell Their Supporters To “Shut Up And Drive”
    OPERATION Free Flow, Barbados Road Network Infrastructure Improvement Project (Flyover Project) To Triple In Cost From USD60 Million To USD180 Million~Gline Clarke And The Government Of Barbados Owe Barbadians A Big Explanation

    ABC Highway Cost Triples Or More

    Categories: 3s Structural Steel Solutions · Barbados · Barbados Government · Barbados News · Construction

    Wishing in Vain // Oct 10th 2007 at 9:29 am

    Another day another scam in our faces , why does it seem that everything these people touch is dishonest and bastardly?
    Why is there not a single project been able to be completed on time and within budget?
    I put it to you that this is all part of the bigger picture to swindle the taxpayers out of their hard earned cash and redirect it to the pockets of our masters.
    I am still awaiting news on what Owing collected to reroute the Batts Rock road that now deprives citizens from the lovely drive along the beach to a new restricted area?

  34. Wishing in Vain

    Just when you thought that it could get no worst look what pops up for all to see, we have a fraud working for one that is also carrying out dishonest acts that will cost us peoples lives.
    No wonder Danos and Mabey and Johnson worked so well together they are all frauds with a mission to rape us.

  35. iRobot

    BFP…

    Ah, the true sign of a delusional paranoid… “They’re going to come and get me. And you know it’s true!”

    For the record, I do not know this is true. You haven’t convinced me. And I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t tell me what I know.

  36. OWING BANNISTER NICHOLLS

    To the hand to mouth idiot Royaljackass,
    Mr Thompson that you are so taken with can and will continue to ask the hard questions of your leadership or lack thereof of course there is major corruption in every project that this adminstration has taken on and you ask why well because it is their method of extracting monies from the taxpayers to their personal bank accounts I have tried to keep it in simple terms as I know this is where your small brain functions.
    He Arthur has been involved in every kickback arrangement that has taken place in this island in the last 14 years he is red handed crook just as Hallam Nicholls and Glyne Bannister are as well.
    Stop shoving your head in the sand you idiot and tell us the taxpayers where the F____ money has gone to with the PRISON that is three times over budget being built by a company that is know and charged for bribing politicians,because you refused to award it to the local contractors because they refused to pay Owing, Nicholls and Bannister the 7 % commission that they requested I assume you see nothing illegal in this request either, or the dishonest bastard Danos being awarded the road works project all the while he is facing fraud charges in the UK, meanwhile they casually reveal that the price now increases to a whopping $ 360 million taxpayers dollars,or what about the Warrens building cost overruns there $ 5 million and counting by the time that the courts are finished with them it could well exceed $ 125 million, what about the Baths that Liz Thompsons husband built no cost over runs there are they?
    Then we have the fiasco of Macolls Hardwood that he is shafting everyone with they collect $ 2 million of our taxpayers monies and and the equipment that they purchase with this $ 2 million is brought in the Managing Director’s name not Hardwood name but the Director’s name who in turn least the same equipment back to them at Hardwood, let me remind you this is all our money that these Rats are sharing out among themselves and their friends.
    The Prime Minister the AG and the DPM have many things to face up to and address, this lot must rate as simply the most corrupt lot of scamps ever collected in the house of assembly, this lot have single handly raped this countries treasury to the point of no return.
    You see my friend many of us are not so loyal to any party to stick our heads in the sand and ignore the dishonesty that is this BLP party, I have voted for he BLP on 3 occassions but not this time, your first two terms you did offer some hope but sadly you have become too corrupt for your own good and the extent of your stealing is at an all time high, lord help us please.
    Why would you feel this way is beyond me-:
    Let me say now that the PM does not have to answer any questions from the lil boy Thompson.
    Why maybe because he is unable to come out and speak truthfully about any subfect because they all implicate him in some form of corruption or the other.
    He nor none of them have even attempted to speak on the issue of the corrupt company VECO getting the triple costing Prison, the triple costing Prison with another charged before the courts, with a paper company of 5 persons employed with a $ 360 million contract, does it not alert you that they must have steal in there, they have said nothing about Hardwood other than Arthur pulling a sham the other night with boxes, how can Mr Thompson take the matter to the PAC when Hardwood has not filed any accounts todate?

  37. My major concern over the alledged cost over-runs, coruption and mis-management relates to the lack of transparency.

    I see nothing from the Opposition benches or from BFP site that would make me conclude that the allegations are without merit. Notwithstanding that, the Government has a duty to the public to explain why the additional costs on the various Government projects. As a taxpayer I find it insulting that this Government does not think it fit to provide explanations on the costs of Kensington Oval, ABC Highway Project, Warrens Building; the BIDC Building at Newton; and many other public financed projects.

    Secondly, it is reprehensible that Arthur has created so many different companies under the Companies Act, albeit owned by Government, but with little accountability to the taxpayers.

    The public has a right to know what is happening with their money.

    The more Arthur talks, the more I am convinced that he has something to hide. I am afraid of the untold damage to our island should the level of coruption ever be exposed.

  38. YUM YUM I like it!

    Dear BFP

    Re. My comment October 10th, 2007 at 1:30 am

    You added :

    “6/ A conclusion based upon available facts.”

    Since you seem incapable of accepting valid criticism gracefully I am forced to continue to argue on a silly point which I should by now have forgotten.

    I am forced to correct this as follows:

    6/ An innaccurate and prejudicial conclusion based on scantily available facts

    My contention is that BFP’s editorial should not contain sweeping statements that could well be wrong in the extreme. Since not one person at 3S has been convicted of anything (to our knowledge) where does the ‘crook’ thing come from? (Danos could well be cleared of any wrong doing. He may well successfully sue Mabey & Johnson to the tune of several million. He may well have only got involved in the case to try to save colleagues/friends etc.. After all he does have an MBE, and they don’t give those to just any Tom, Dick or Jonathan! We simply do not know! Time will tell.)

    Are the 22 opposition MDC party members who are being charged in Zimbabwe also ‘crooks’? For that matter, is anyone who is accused of a crime instantly a crook. What do we need a court system
    for? Charges are sometimes trumped up, motivated by revenge or envy…etc..

    Its just not so punchy to write:

    “A company containing a director who is alleged to have committed a crime is building the highway….”

    It may all seem like semantics, but it IS important that the BFP editorial remains relatively neutral.

    Commentators like WIV can continue to get over-exited by a few unconnected morcels of information, adding up 2 plus 2 and getting 22, but editorial is different.

    Can you accept that?

    *****************************

    BFP Comments

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on what constitutes a “crook”, YYILI.

    Perhaps the main point is… in a society where public information is so closely controlled and corruption is so rampant, it is only natural that citizens have to base their conclusions on less information than one would normally like to have.

    Let me ask you this, YYILI…

    Is there anything about 3S that strikes you as unusual or unacceptable in the least?

  39. YUM YUM I like it!

    Pied Piper makes a very interesting point about corruption.

    Are we ready for the true extent of corruption to be revealed?

    What would be the repercussions?

    What is the cost of implementing transparency and integrity legislation / open tendering?

    Would it cost more than the government are stealing?

    Should politicians be paid MORE to stop them from having to t’eif?!

    Would T&I legislation be introduced retrospectrively? (We might not end up with many MPs!!!!)

    Interesting.

  40. YUM YUM I like it!

    “Is there anything about 3S that strikes you as unusual or unacceptable in the least?”

    (I’m not sure if you didn’t wish to ask the more rhetorical “Is there NOTHING about 3s that strikes you as unusual or unacceptable?” so I’ll answer)

    I can fully accept your point that there is SO little information available on this island. We are all playing ‘connect the dots’ with our eyes half-open!

    Of course there ARE irregularities associated with awarding this company the contract for ‘Operation Freeflow’! We’ve been over THAT many times in the last month! (WIV is still going on about it!)

    I firmly believe, though that the focus of your venom should be the government, not 3s.

    To demonise 3s only serves to shift the heat from those who are really at fault:

    The BLP government.

  41. Wishing in Vain

    YYILI, Take off the blinkers my friend and look around.
    Yes I may add 2 and 2 and get 22 according to the word of YYILI, but there is one thing for sure I can also look around and see that the gov’t has awarded the prison contract to VECO which clearly is known to bribe politicians (and do not suggest for a moment that ours are not) over and above a local group of companies that pulled out all the stops to assist this same group of crooks in making accomodations ready for these prisoners in very short order, but this group was neglected because they refused to pay the 7 % commission to Owing, Nicholls and Bannister, these scamps never had any intention of giving out this work locally as this would put a limit to scope of their ability to steal.
    Secondly when I add 2 and 2 and get 22 when I see that this road works project is heaped in dishonesty and corruption not to forget that they have yet again gone into bed with another fraud bearing in mind he has been charged and found guilty of fraud against his parent company, it is just to closely related that in two projects alone we have our gov’t doing underhand deals with dishonest bastards like VECO and DANOS if they are not a corrupt bunch then they are all saints.
    Then when I add 2 and 2 and I get 22 it reminds me that we have this scandal of Hardwood Holdings $ 2 million of my taxpayers money lent to this company with the director owning the equipment and he is leasing it back to Hardwood at greatly increased cost, this is yet again an amazing feat, then he molest three women in the office and attempts to fire them for not doing what he wanted to do with them he is one nastything. Then we have Tony Hoyos sitting as chairman of hardwood and granting a loan to himself from the BEGFL (our taxpayers monies once again).
    And you want to malign us for saying these people have got to be the most dishonest bastards to ever grace the halls of Cabinet or the House of Assembly?
    Give me a break with dishonesty as this is I trust that there is a whole wing awaiting them at Harrisons, no we are not mixing them with the hardened criminals this bunch will teach too many new tricks.

  42. Wishing in Vain

    Engineers want info on lights
    Published on: 10/11/07.

    THE BARBADOS ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS (BAPE)

    is calling for full disclosure on the street lighting to be used at the end of the Operation Freeflow road-widening project being undertaken by 3S Barbados SRL.

    In a Press release on Monday, BAPE also called for an analysis to determine what impact, if any, the choice of street lights would have on maintenance and operating costs.

    BAPE said 3S SRL should also give details on windspeed and loads used in the design of lighting poles and their supports.

    The association charged that the original 75 millimetre and 100 metre conduits for street lighting were removed and replaced with 50 millimetre conduits.

    “The larger conduits in the original design would have permitted some redundancy in the cabling installed and therefore improved reliability of the street lights.

    “A failure of one cable would not result in all lights failing at the same time. BAPE is very concerned that the smaller conduits may not permit this level of redundancy.”

    Additionally, BAPE has urged officials of 3S to provide information on the street lighting design and mitigation measures in place to address this concern.

  43. Inkwell

    “Then we have Tony Hoyos sitting as chairman of hardwood and granting a loan to himself from the BEGFL”
    *************************

    Somebody, (BFP clearly does not intend to do it) should correct the ignorance demonstrated in this comment, but perhaps the innuendo contained continues to serve the general purpose.

    Even after a broad hint in a previous post, the commentator continues to show that he does not understand what he is pontificating about.

  44. Anonymous

    YUM YUM

    It is time for you to drop this position of defending 3S…

    It takes TWO to arrange these scams. The reason that these contracts do not go to HONEST professional companies is organisations like 3S and VECO who come in (or are brought in) to offer their illegal services.
    This practice not only cheats taxpayers, but also discourages the development of honest local businesses.
    You have no problem with Companies that are willing to pay bribes, pay kickbacks, and enter underhand arrangements to fleece taxpayers?
    What 3S what?!!
    Don’t disappoint me YUM YUM

    I take your point that it is Government that mostly lets us down… but don’t make 3S to be anything less than criminal co-conspirators…

  45. Wishing in Vain

    Inkwell In your effort to blindly support this gang of bastards and crooks are willing to neglect the truth and the facts?
    Is Tony Hoyos not the chairman of Hardwood Holdings?
    And does he not sit on the board of EGFL which lent $ 2 million of our taxpayers monies to this company?
    Is this not strange to you?
    And is it not strange to you that a struggling company as they said that we can have the managing director owning this equipment in his name (having been purchased with the same funds loaned from EGFL) and leasing it back to the company that received the load in the first place for the pricely sum of $ 44,000.00 per month?

  46. Wishing in Vain

    Anonymous, Well said my friend, the only reason that 3S and VECO are part of the program is that the Bannister, Nicholls, Hobson and Arthur know only to well that these companies are frauds and will pay bribe money hence the type that they have attracted, this is no accident and it no mistake, this is a very well calculated plan to defraud us the taxpayers of this island.

  47. Wishing in Vain

    Tell me why is it that purely by accident that the gov’t of this island just manages to select two compaines to do work for them and one company is before the courts for fraud and corruption and the other is before the courts for bribery and corruption?
    This is a very poor refelction of the ones we have elected to do the job for us, it would suggest to me that our gov’t is dishonest and doing fraudulent and dishonest things as well, there is little to say otherwise.

  48. mosquito

    Thought everyone would be interested in this.

    I am sure that you were delighted to read the announcement by vice President of Hillis Carnes David Buddemeyer yesterday.

    ‘THE RESULTS FROM THESE TESTS ALLOWED FOR THE DESIGN OF EASH FLYOVER TO MATCH THE CORRESPONDING SOIL CONDITIONS MAKING THEM ENTIRELY SAFE AND ENSURING THE LONGELEVITY OF EACH STRAUCTURE.’

    Additionally he complimented 3S barbados for having the geo – technical research done as a precautionary measure.

    In fact many other companies are now flowing the lead of 3S and are employing geo technical research prior to building projects.

    One wonders why BAPE in its collective wisdom hasnt made this recomendation to all its members?

  49. mosquito

    BFP
    If you pride yourself on intergrity why are you blocking my posts?

  50. Anonymous

    mu posts still being blocked or Still awaiting moderation?????????

    ***********************

    BFP Replies

    Patience please.

  51. YUM YUM I like it!

    Wishing in Vain

    I’m blinkered, you’re blinkered, we’re all blinkered. That is the problem!

    Inkwell

    I think you are getting my drift.

    It asks the question:

    Is it correct to be inaccurate and tell falsehoods when the overall purpose of the message is good?

    Is this not what you are (in part) accusing the BLP government (and others) of doing??

    Anonymous

    I am NOT defending 3s.

    If you think that then plainly you are misunderstanding my position.

    However you are right that I should drop this subject.

    Dropped (Even though I am sure that BFP will cut in with a sneaky final word!)

    ***********************

    BFP Replies…

    “final word” 🙂

  52. Wishing in Vain

    DPWH 6 to take over completion of Infante flyover
    This was confirmed yesterday by Mayor Jerry Treñas after he met with Director Emil Sadain of Project Management Office (PMO) of the DPWH central office last Friday.

    Treñas learned that all the contracts for the on going President’s Bridge program in the different parts of country were suspended after contractor Mabey & Johnson Ltd. failed to follow the project specifications of the bridges as stipulated in the contract.

    It was not immediately known on how many contracts in the Philippines were awarded to Mabey & Johnson Ltd. which is a United Kingdom-based construction firm.

    In Iloilo City, among the discrepancies noted in the project construction are the piers 2, 3, 4 and 5. The contractor likewise has remaining works to do such as the embankment, approaches, concreting of abutment and part of the retaining wall in approaches.

    The Infante flyover is a six-span modular steel bridge supported by board piles, piers and abutments.

    Treñas said the piers have to be upgraded and reinforced. Nevertheless, he was assured by Sadain that it is still safe to use the Infante vehicular flyover as all discrepancies in the original project design will be remedied.

    He said he is primarily concern of the structural design and safety of all the end users of the vehicular flyover.

    When asked on why the discrepancy was only discovered after the vehicular flyover was already 90 percent complete, Treñas said he has no idea on whether those responsible for the project construction checked on the details of the project the way it should be constructed.

    The vehicular flyover here topped the list of high impact projects of the DPWH. The project is being undertaken and supervised by the President’s Bridge Program Office of the Department of Public Works and Highways Central Office. The regional office of the department has no control over the project construction.

    The delay in the completion of the vehicular flyover eventually caused delay in its operation. The city government is looking forward on the assurance made by DPWH officials that the vehicular flyover will be operational by December, said Treñas.
    Other Iloilo News
    Drivers end strike
    Megaworld pays city P9 M transfer tax
    City drivers back traffic experiment

    This was confirmed yesterday by Mayor Jerry Treñas after he met with Director Emil Sadain of Project Management Office (PMO) of the DPWH central office last Friday.

    Treñas learned that all the contracts for the on going President’s Bridge program in the different parts of country were suspended after contractor Mabey & Johnson Ltd. failed to follow the project specifications of the bridges as stipulated in the contract.

    It was not immediately known on how many contracts in the Philippines were awarded to Mabey & Johnson Ltd. which is a United Kingdom-based construction firm.

    In Iloilo City, among the discrepancies noted in the project construction are the piers 2, 3, 4 and 5. The contractor likewise has remaining works to do such as the embankment, approaches, concreting of abutment and part of the retaining wall in approaches.

    The Infante flyover is a six-span modular steel bridge supported by board piles, piers and abutments.

    Treñas said the piers have to be upgraded and reinforced. Nevertheless, he was assured by Sadain that it is still safe to use the Infante vehicular flyover as all discrepancies in the original project design will be remedied.

    He said he is primarily concern of the structural design and safety of all the end users of the vehicular flyover.

    When asked on why the discrepancy was only discovered after the vehicular flyover was already 90 percent complete, Treñas said he has no idea on whether those responsible for the project construction checked on the details of the project the way it should be constructed.

    The vehicular flyover here topped the list of high impact projects of the DPWH. The project is being undertaken and supervised by the President’s Bridge Program Office of the Department of Public Works and Highways Central Office. The regional office of the department has no control over the project construction.

    The delay in the completion of the vehicular flyover eventually caused delay in its operation. The city government is looking forward on the assurance made by DPWH officials that the vehicular flyover will be operational by December, said Treñas.

  53. Jerome Hinds

    Anonymous
    October 11th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
    YUM YUM

    It is time for you to drop this position of defending 3S…

    It takes TWO to arrange these scams. The reason that these contracts do not go to HONEST professional companies is organisations like 3S and VECO who come in (or are brought in) to offer their illegal services.
    This practice not only cheats taxpayers, but also discourages the development of honest local businesses.
    You have no problem with Companies that are willing to pay bribes, pay kickbacks, and enter underhand arrangements to fleece taxpayers?
    What 3S what?!!
    Don’t disappoint me YUM YUM

    I take your point that it is Government that mostly lets us down… but don’t make 3S to be anything less than criminal co-conspirators…

    ******************************************
    Anonymous,

    Your questions are leading some where……!

    This is what the latest IMF report says about this BLP government…..when it comes to such projects .

    ” 20. A number of PPP infrastructure projects have been initiated in recent years,
    without a surrounding framework law. As a result, the process for agreement on such a
    contract is unclear, and while the nature of the contract (e.g. to build a prison or hospital)
    is made public, the exact nature of the financial agreement is unclear, as is the precise
    allocation of risk. PPP arrangements are off-budget. In some cases the difference between
    the PPP arrangement and a bond-financed government investment project is unclear, save
    that under the former, no debt is acknowledged in the government accounts. ”

    The entire document can be accessed through the link below :

    http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2007/cr07338.pdf

  54. Fairplay

    The unprofessional way in which the BAPE has gone about its so called report is a disgrace and has sullied the reputation of that association.
    By sending such a report to the press instead of going through the correct channels it shows itself and the association up as a group of resentful, envious and vindictive persons who only want to embarrass the government.
    Their lack of expertise in the field that they have chosen to critique can only give rise to sad amusement. They have scratched together a pathetic handful of allegations that a first year engineering student would have little trouble in refuting casting only doubts on their own professionalism.

    ***********************

    BFP Replies

    What a joke this comment is. “Going through correct channels” is a euphemism for “keeping everything quiet”.

    The BAPE obviously realizes that its ultimate duty is to professionalism and the protecting the public – not keeping things quiet for the government.

    We support the BAPE fully.

  55. Fairplay

    THE BARBADOS ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS (BAPE)

    is calling for full disclosure on the street lighting to be used at the end of the Operation Freeflow road-widening project being undertaken by 3S Barbados SRL.

    BAPE said 3S SRL should also give details on windspeed and loads used in the design of lighting poles and their supports.

    The association charged that the original 75 millimetre and 100 metre conduits for street lighting were removed and replaced with 50 millimetre conduits.

    “The larger conduits in the original design would have permitted some redundancy in the cabling installed and therefore improved reliability of the street lights.

    “A failure of one cable would not result in all lights failing at the same time. BAPE is very concerned that the smaller conduits may not permit this level of redundancy.”

    More shamefull poppycock from BAPE A public disgrace.

  56. Frankology

    Welcome Fairplay. I am wondering why you are against BAPE enlightening the public about concerns with the erection of the flyovers. I am not an engineer, but I have been preaching about all the wrongs relating to the erection of the flyovers. I agree with all the concerns as reported by the BAPE. The Bermuda Triangle had no right being dug up, Water traveling across the passage of motorists can cause aqua planing, refusal to disclose company’s financial position and the lack of an Impact Study and the late submission of a Geo-technical report shows a lack of construction knowledge. What we are seeing is confusion on the Sobers roundabout and surrounding areas. I would like to know when the levels will be corrected and road reopen. Do we need to go further.

  57. Sargeant

    I don’t know whether there is any corruption associated with this project,however your correspondent YYILI relays that Mr. Danos has an MBE with the implication that he couldn’t be guilty of any improprieties . He may want to rethink that statement. I can think of two examples (Lord Archer and Lord Black) who were the recipient of Royal honours and were subsequently convicted of criminal activity. I am sure that there are many others and your readers can enlighten him.

  58. YUM YUM I like it!

    This is a very interesting article from the estemed ‘Guardian’ newspaper. (i.e not the Trinidad one!)

    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/foi/story/0,9061,1671092,00.html

    “British family firm accused of getting rich by building bridges to nowhere”

    It starts:

    ” little-known family who became one of the richest in Britain have been accused of making excessive profits in an aid project, by building what their critics call “bridges to nowhere”.”

    Make what you will of it!

  59. Trinbajan

    Please! No one has ever accused the BAPE of being Partisan. Especially with respect to this project. One of BAPE’s senior execs has used BAPE as a personal mouthpiece from the beginning to get back at the Govt for not giving his firm contracts in the past. Partisan… yeah right!

  60. mosquito

    It see I am unblocked now.

    ‘The Bermuda Triangle had no right being dug up,

    It had to be dug up because its roadlevels were wrong and this was a major contrubuting factor to accidents .

    ‘Water traveling across the passage of motorists can cause aqua planing,’

    Aqua-planning for the uninformed is a term applied to describe a condition when water forms a thin layer of water in between the tyre and the tarmac. The car is riding on a film of water. This gives the tyre no grip on terra- firma and leads to a complete loss of control of the car. Skidding in short.

    We are in a tropical country with heavy rainfall.
    There will always be times when a certain amount of water is on the roads.

    Aqua planning is seen everywhere and is agrevated
    by poor tread quality and hardening of tyres.
    Also using local aggregates for road sufaces can make them slippery.

    Yet this has been done for some years why has BAPE not seen fit to address this problem before?

  61. YUM YUM I like it!

    Sargeant

    Thank you for enlightening me on the fact that two individuals who have received Queen’s honours have subsequently been convicted. I am sure there are hundreds of such people!

    Not really the point though!

    I was TRYING to illustrate that there is only a certain amount of information available on this character. There is information which implies good and bad and some which is neutral. To simply take the bad stuff (which is pretty scant anyway) and make sweeping negative statements may be harmful and possibly counterproductive.

    Maybe you have taken the line (or even comment) in isolation and have not seen how it fits into my general argument.

  62. YUM YUM I like it!

    Here’s another one:

    http://www.againstcorruption.org/briberycase.asp?id=823

    This time it is Papua New Guinea

    Same Mabey & Johnson
    Same serious fraud squad

    Also mentioned is ‘kickbacks’ to Saddam Hussein

    Just gets juicier all the time

    Actually this site:

    http://www.againstcorruption.org

    is a great source of info on all things corrupt.

    Actually I’m sure it is on O$A’s favourites list. A good directory of companies there eh? Nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean!

  63. Frankology

    It had to be dug up because its road levels were wrong and this was a major contributing factor to accidents. Mosquito

    If the level where wrong in the first place, then look at the western side that is paved and then look at the above section and you will see it look like the Stadium cycle track. Wait and see when it rains how the water will be traversing to the eastern section.

  64. YUM YUM I like it!

    Trinbajan

    I think you meant to write ‘non-partisan’ not ‘partisan’.

    The BAPE report is important in maintaining the pressure on the government.

    It is interesting from the point of view of the criticisms of the government rather than their engineering critique (IMHO).

    Their motivation for doing this?

    Who cares, its truthful and sincere and is giving the BLP the run-around. So hip hip hooray!!!

    Any more professional association willing to stand up?

    Maybe the doctors???

  65. Inkwell

    On three occasions, WIV has stated that the fact of Tony Hoyos sitting on the Board of the EGFL and Hardwood Housing constitutes corruption.

    October 9th, 2007 at 10:51 am

    “Adrian This political hopscotch, Hoyos is sitting on the board of the EGFL and he is arranging funds to be directed to Hardwood Holdings a company that he sits on the board of, did anyone else know up to yesterday report that the Gov’t (or is it the EGFL) is an owner of Hardwood Holdings I certainly did not know this did you ??”

    When I challenged him, he said:

    October 9th, 2007 at 1:24 pm

    Does HOYOS not sit on both boards?
    And did he not oversee the loan from EGFL to his company Hardwood Holdings ?
    And Is not the EGFL and gov’t not shareholders in Hardwood Holdings?
    What is your issue then ?
    You are willing away the facts of this case that has corruption written all over it.

    Then on October 11th, 2007 at 10:55 am

    “Then we have Tony Hoyos sitting as chairman of hardwood and granting a loan to himself from the BEGFL”

    When I again challenge him, he maligns me by stating:

    “Inkwell In your effort to blindly support this gang of bastards and crooks are willing to neglect the truth and the facts?
    Is Tony Hoyos not the chairman of Hardwood Holdings?
    And does he not sit on the board of EGFL which lent $ 2 million of our taxpayers monies to this company?
    Is this not strange to you?””

    It is not in my place to presume to educate a commentator who clearly knows everything, but someone should tell WIV that Tony Hoyos was appointed to the board of Hardwood Housing BY EGFL to oversee the application to which the substantial investment made in it by EGFL was put. Hoyos represents EFGL on the board of Hardwood Housing. It is not a case of two conflicting directorships.

    To persistently state that Hoyos as a director of EFGL is corruptly lending money to Hardwood Housing, of which he is a director is either ignorant or malicious, take your pick.

  66. Wishing in Vain

    To inkwell sadly you are totally incapable of educating me by trying to spin your utter load of rubbish, Hoyos should resign he has no right sitiing on the board of the lender and the borrower.

    This is nothing more that a feeble attempt to close the door on a matter that you and your party has allowed to nurture and grow to the point it is now a malignant tumor in need of removal.

    The whole issue of Hardwood Holdings is steeped in corruption, dishonesty, stealing and payback to party loyals.

    The Gov’t has given Mascoll, Hoyos et al an open cheque to satisfy their political objective sadly they have done so in a most vile and contemptuous manner in which they have set about their rape of our treasury.

    It is absolutely disgusting that as Hoyos can sit on both the Board of the LENDING agency and also to sit on the board as Chairman of the RECEIVER of this donation from the EGFL to Hardwood Holdings.

    He has not been put there by for any creditable reason the only real reason is to filter back these monies to people like Mascoll and himself and company, This company was setup for a purpose thankfully the purpose has been seen thru and exposed by the leader of the opposition and now people of all walks of life are also questioning the motives and the actions behind EGFL and Hardwood Holdings when the Managing Director can be the owner of the equipment that EGFL lends or (donates is more correct) to Hardwood Holdings the funds to buy this same equipment with but yet he ends up leasing back the company the same equipment that the money has been lend to.

    You must really think people are out of their minds when you roll out your crap.

    In summary Hoyos, Mascoll, MarianoBrowne (let us not forget that he too has a case before the courts pending for dishonesty while at CCB I assume that he is not before the courts because he was such an honest person) they should all step aside and let this issue be fully addressed, they believe that they are all so smart that what they do is above the comprehension of the average man in the street however when it becomes so blatant then it is clear for even a blind man to see stealing, dishonesty, corruption and lying very clearly.

    No amount of smoke screens will quell the call to account, Owing states that Mr Thompson needs to involve the PAC knowing full well that he the PM is the only one with the power to bring them to order because the Leader of the Opposition has nothing to operate on as the accounts are not yet before the house, but Owing is once again stalling and hoping that he will see it die, not this time Owing you created a monster you must address it and deal with it.

    I would also like to ask Owing if this was the deal cut by Mascoll in his switch to your party and if so the $ 2 million that you intented to pay him may not now be such a good investment as he has caused more harm than good but like most of your other ministers like Mottley et al they are merely disposable ministers, wipe your feet on them as you pass thru the doors of your office them throw them into the garbage.

    In summary Hoyos has absolutely no right sitting on both boards as the lender and the borrower, no rights at all it steeps in dishonesty and provides an avenue for gross corruption.

    Furthermore for what reason would a business man like Hoyos want to be involved in these gov’t entities unless he sees that there is room for manipulation.

  67. Inkwell

    WIV

    Even when the truth is put before you you refuse to see. Truly there is none so blind.

    Why don’t you ask someone to explain to you why Hoyos is on the board of Hardwood Housing and how he got there?

  68. Bape is so yesterdays news…