What A Surprise! ABC Highway Cost Triples Or More…

To Our Glorious Barbados Highway Planners

According to the CBC News, “issues were not foreseen when the project was in its planning stage” and the work required to complete the ABC Highway is now triple what was planned for.

Apparently the idiots and crooks who tendered, planned, bid and examined the bids on this mega project “forgot” a few little things, so we at Barbados Free Press would like to provide some advice to all the government officials and construction companies who are planning any further highway upgrades in Barbados.

Bear in mind that we have no experience in these matters – but we don’t feel at all unqualified to speak because experience and competence are obviously not part of the government’s criteria for planning and managing hundred million dollar construction projects in Barbados.

A Few Reminders For Our Incompetent Or Crooked Government Highway Planners And Managers

Here are some lessons about what should be foreseen when a highway project is in the planning stage…

1/ There are all kinds of pipes and wires running under the ground and especially where roadways are, so if you dig up an old road or dig for a new road the construction machines make a terrible mess of those pipes and wires under the ground. The lesson is that locating, protecting, moving or replacing these pipes and wires should be factored into the cost when you are planning a new highway.

2/ When the government is creating a legal contract for constructing a new highway, they should have some really smart people to look over the contract before it is signed – so we, the people of Barbados can stop the rape of our public treasury. These smart people should also be honest so they don’t create contracts that benefit their friends or construction companies that they have a share in.

3/ Bidders often deliberately fail to include necessary work in their bids so that a/ their bid is the lowest and they win the contract, and b/ the people of Barbados are given a low cost estimate so they will approve the project. For instance, had we the people of Barbados known that the BLP Government planned to spend triple what we were told constructing the ABC Highway, the people and their honest elected representatives might have stopped this nonsense at the start.

4/ Legal contracts should be designed to penalize construction companies who underbid on a project through incompetence or deception. The present contracts are like manna from Heaven for the construction companies because all liability and responsibility for bidding errors is on the government – which means the people of Barbados. The government people who sign and oversee these contracts on behalf of the people of Barbados are either incompetent or dishonestly receiving kickbacks for their “stupidity”. Government construction contracts should be changed so that we will never again have a situation where bidders can blame the government for things that the construction companies should have foreseen and included in their project costing.

But we’re only ordinary folks here at Barbados Free Press. We don’t drive BMWs – so what could we possibly know?

ABC Project To Cost More

Government will have to pay more than it originally intended for the US $60 million highway widening project.

Notice of this comes from the contractor, 3S Barbados, which says it is because the scope of work has increased.

While the company’s project manager George Siddall declined to say how much the final figure will be, CBC understands that the current scope of work is about three times what it was initially.

Officials of 3S and officials from subcontractors Rayside and C.O. Williams gave a tour and update on the state of the project this afternoon.

It’s just over a year into the road improvement project and much has been done, but several challenges have resulted in delays.

These have often been caused by issues related to water and gas mains as well as power lines.

The issues were not for seen when the project was in its planning stage.

This has hampered the north of the project in particular. This section is being undertaken by Rayside Construction Company.

There is a major power line that runs along the highway that must be re-laid before any work can go on.

As a result of this and other challenges this area of the project is three months behind schedule.

But efforts are being made to get back on track to enable the project to finish as near as possible to its completion date next May.

As a result Rayside Construction has increased its workforce by 20 to 25 percent and is working later hours, up to six and six 30 in the evening, as well as weekends.

But there are some areas that are progressing on schedule and are expected to be completed by the May deadline.

Nevertheless, 3S says if the project goes beyond next May and additional costs are incurred there is provision in the contract for the contractor to recoup the added expenses.

… from the CBC (link here)

Also see our friends over at Barbados Underground who are as surprised about this tripling of costs as we are…

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51 responses to “What A Surprise! ABC Highway Cost Triples Or More…

  1. Hants

    BFP which companies are profitting from these 300% increase in costs?

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    BFP Comments

    Good question Hants!

    And are any of the companies involved in the project owned or in any way associated with any elected or appointed government officials? (Oh… sorry, not allowed to ask, and its not illegal in Barbados for government officials to award contracts to their friends, relatives and even to their own companies!)

  2. I heard George Siddall say that three times as much work had been undertaken on the road than was originally envisaged or planned.

    I also heard him explain that the power line had to be relaid before work could continue along that stretch.

    But 2+2 does not equal 22.

    The unforesee/overlooked major power line does not of itself explain how the total project cost could triple.

    I thought maybe someone had slilpped in a couple more flyovers, but no mention was made of this.

    We are not being told the whole truth yet. There is much more to this than has been admitted.

  3. well well well

    This is very interesting, has this change in the scope of works included the widening of the Ronald Mapp Higgway from Warrens to Redmans Village? How can the 3s Project Manager say that the scope changed to include Highway 2a when this area was one of the areas air marked for a flyover in the original design, wouldn widening have to take place to acommodate the fly over? With regards to the 69 KV Line it was known that this line existed this is the said line that equipment damaged causing the ilsand wide shut down and blame it on a monkey. This line was supposed to have been placed at the back of the acquisition line at a specific depth, this was not done hence the need for relocation now, why should the tax payers have to foot this bill when BL&P were given specific instructions for the placing of this line?
    Unfortunately my friends we have not heard the last of these increases can 3s’s indicate whether they have submitted rates for the works to be executed and is it true that there are always discrepancies with Public Works as a result of this where the rates continually change from Valuation to Valuation?

    But what can you expect when 3s’s are the ones who provided the funding, did the designs some of which have not yet been finalised even at this late stage, are the ones doing the Traffic Impact Assessment in other words its their entire fatted calf.
    Someone needs to tell John Public where this extra cost is especially in view of the fact that except for the Warrens area no new aquisitions were required hence the usual high cost of land which pushes up the cost of road works was not a factor.
    This whole thing is all the more interesting when one takes into account that the Original MPT Project Manager on this questioned the cost of this project from the start as it had about 50% fat from the beginning, now we are hearing of cost over runs someone wants flogging

  4. Pogo

    Triple the original cost is not gonna get it done. Already some shoddy hidden work has set this back even more than they are telling.

    Word is that now original work will never get finished since most of the money has already changed hands and no more funds.

    And now with the condo collapse due to approved to build on bad foundation who will want to drive on a high up flyover which is probably approved and built by the same clowns?

  5. Reporter

    If all of this BS was not very sad I would get a belly laugh out of it.

    A project starts out at $60 million and is now said to be costing $180 million. And this is not the first time this has happened!

    As a backdrop to all of this madness Mr. Mouthpiece the Right Honorable and King Owen Arhur announces in the press “prices must come down” and that it causes him to be jealous when seeing Bajans go to Trinidad to shop and get lower prices. Lord have mercy if s——it had wings Owen would be a spaceship instead of being a space cadet.

    The taxes in Barbados, the rip offs his Government has condoned by Wholesalers/Retailers in Barbados to starve the masses over the last ten years for which he and his buffoons must take full responsibility for is scandalous. I hereby announce that Owen is the winner of the Barbados “toilet paper wipe” award. When he finishes speaking he need wipe his mouth with toilet paper! And has done so this year alone so often that his lips are growing callouses!

    When are Barbadians going to come to their senses?

    The masses are being treated like the growing of mushrooms by the BLP. They are being kept in the dark and fed a steady diet of BS!

  6. Hants

    It is great when these issues are first raised in mainstream media.

    When BFP and bloggers point out Government misspending, BLP supporters come on here and rant and rave that the Government is blameless.

    Well this is a 300% cost overun so who they going to blame now?

    Barbados has Engineers Architects and Planners,
    the majority of whom have University degrees from the best Universities in the UK,USA and Canada.

    Something is not right in Barbados.

    BFP……. Doan ease up.

  7. ” The extent of underground services that we came across on the project and the conflict of the new roadway with the services, were not really forseen at the time that we were planning the project” Reported comment by Mr. George Siddall, project manager of 3S SRL, in the Sunday Sun, August, 26, 2007.

    The above reported remarks by one Mr. Siddall really make a mockery and farce of sound road building planning and management techniques and their interweaving financial fabric in Barbados. Such an utterance is enough to warrant immediate investigations of this Operation Freeflow project by the Public Accounts Committee of the Parliament of Barbados, and by the Auditor General of Barbados, both of whom have recently been given greater power and authority by the Parliament of Barbados to, in their respective roles, undertake investigations of all Public Accounts of the Government of Barbados, and the financial affairs of government ministries, departments, statutory bodies and other government controlled entities, respectively.

    We call upon the people of Barbados to realize the enormity of the complications of this utterance and agitate for and ensure there comes about the quick dismissal of both Mr. Siddall and 3S SRL, the latter being the main contractors, from any further undertaking of this otherwise important ABC road expansion project, and their replacement by another suitable local road building contractor, and as the main contractor. For, this utterance is certainly demonstrative of evidence of the gross and reckless mismanagement involved in many aspects of the project, esp. by this BLP government and 3S SRL. We in the People’s Democratic Congress (PDC) totally condemn and reject any gross and reckless mismanagement associated with this project. The vast majority of people of Barbados must also do the same!! Certainly, a self-incriminating utterance of such collassal, egregious and damned proportions does show that so far there is a lot that is so wrong with this road expansion project, and that is not casually observable, to think about it.

    From the start, we in PDC were NEVER in agreement with the initial, estimated cost given by 3S SRL of this project, esp. when taking into consideration the history of cost overruns associated with many public projects of this scale, and when considering plans for the construction of flyovers, which themselves will be totally unnecessary and useless as remedies to traffic congestion, in particularly, sub/urban areas of Barbados during peak rush hours. To realize that the initial estimated cost of this project was a mammoth US $ 60 million a little over a year ago , and to now read in the said Sunday Sun, that the estimated cost of this project when it comes to an end will be a gigantic albatrossic US $ 180 million, with about 2 years more left before its completion, is so staggering as is indeed mind shattering. All kinds of statements by members of the public of Barbados questioning the integrity and honesty of this BLP Government and the main and sub contractors will quite understandably be asked of them, as well, as many answers as possible must be made as forthcoming as possible of this BLP Government, 3S SRL and relevant others. This process of criticizing these garguantuan figures and the project and its relatives, must be certainly be oriented around the efforts of the Public Accounts Committee and the Auditor General, who must let the people of Barbados know the extent of what these economic pillagers, 3S SRL and relevant others, have mainly been about, so that we the people would be determined to take the most appropriate action, esp.at election time.

    Whereas we strongly believe that there are aspects of this project, like the Jersey barriers, that were apparently claimed by Mr. Siddall to NOT have been factored into the original planning and designing and costing of the project, but which would have later in fact been seen to be included in the ongoing, present planning, designing, executing and costing of the project, but whose financial cost should have been rationalized and minimized as much as possible, we strongly believe ,too, that it is totally unforgivable and down right stupid of the government and 3S SRL to NOT have seen included into the same original planning, designing, and costing processes provisions for the fullest extent of utility and gas lines in the very prominent Warrens area and other areas, given that the equipment, technology, expertise and labour are available in Barbados to at any time assist in any ascertaining of such from the outset as it is right now at this time. Verily, this Operation Freeflow project shall in the foreseeable future constitute one of the most expensive public projects ever undertaken by any government in the history of modern Barbados. It shall indeed continue to be a massive drain on the public purse of the country until it finishes.

    We also continue to rightly argue and will continue to do so until most Barbadians become aware of it that TAXATION is the primary basis for this wild and reckless spending by governments of Barbados over the years. If these public and private sector individuals and entities that are charged with spending the money value of the people had to spend their own money value on projects like this, we in PDC could bet that projects like this would be far better devised, costed and executed, and money value far better allocated to these projects than is the case right now. But, mainly, as a reason of it being money value that is either borrowed by the government – but which will eventually have to be repaid, nevertheless – with foolish interest attached – and by way of the government’s stealing more money from the relevant people and entities in order to repay such borrowed monies, or as a resaon of it being money that is stolen by the government from the relevant people and entities, that is used to finance these public projects, there is little care or value for how such money is spent. In response to such, we say that in addition to a PDC Government Abolishing ALL TAXATION in Barbados, that such a government shall lead the way in the establishment of A Committee of the People’s Legislature of Barbados that shall be given the power and authority by such a legislature to stop or suspend such public projects that see their expenditures increasing astronomically and without justification, so that serious investigations can be carried out with a view to making sure that the best management is carried out of the lands, resources and money value of the people of Barbados. Indeed!!

  8. Andrew

    Questions:

    1) Is Mr Siddall elected by the people of Barbados?

    If not, how come he is making announcements that should be made by Mr Glyne Clarke or Mr Owen Arthur?

    11) How long did the Government think they could hide this development?

    111) Shouldn’t 3S be 3$ or three times the dollars??

  9. gentle jim

    Based on this alone the Minister of Transport & Works or whatever Glyne Clarke is called should be asked to or do the honourable thing and RESIGN.
    Please do not hold your breath though

  10. Lady Anon

    I confused.

    The 3S man stated that the scope of works is greater than what was expected because there is now road widening included in the project. But he also stated (or it is stated somewhere else) that the road had to be widened to four lanes so that the inner lanes can be closed off to build the flyovers.

    If the 3S man was to build the flyovers, and the cost was US$60 million dollars, would not the road widening be a given?

  11. yatinkinkiteasy

    Rayside and Cow are draging this thing out forever!…the portion leading from Grahame Hall to the old Garfield Sobers Roundabout has seen little or no change in over two months!…Lets give it to the Chinese…at least they will work..there appears to be little or 0 workers on the job any day, any time.Corruption or people who simply dont know what they are doing…in any case, a horrible waste of taxpayers money…Elections anyone?

  12. YUM YUM I like it!

    Andrew

    I like your points and I especially like your counting scale 1, 11 then 111! Maybe that is the same counting scale that the road-builders are using to calculate their expenses!

    Joking aside, I am perplexed why it has been 3s that has had to announce this news to the nation. Let us not be quick to blame 3s, as they are an international company with experience of building major infrastructure in far more challenging places than Barbados. They obviously did not have a cast-iron costing for the project at the start and that is not their fault. It is the responsibility of whomever hired them to ensure that they stick within a certain budget frame-work (what does the contract say??). Who hired them, I forget?

    Quite what a PDC government would do, does not interest anyone save a few like-minded ‘angry young men’ as they will never and should never have a chance to govern. With such lunatic concepts as ‘immediately firing 3s’ or ‘abolishing all taxation’ they should stick to playing video games to vent their frustrations.

  13. Bush tea

    Yum Yum…
    “Joking aside, I am perplexed why it has been 3s that has had to announce this news to the nation. Let us not be quick to blame 3s, as they are an international company with experience of building major infrastructure in far more challenging places than Barbados. They obviously did not have a cast-iron costing for the project at the start and that is not their fault. It is the responsibility of whomever hired them to ensure that they stick within a certain budget frame-work (what does the contract say??). Who hired them, I forget?”

    You know something that no one else does…??
    what is this experience that 3s has? pray tell us..
    who besides them came up with the cost?
    As far as we know two men hired them – Gline and Owen… which of them is an engineer?
    But bizzy recommends them- and he is one – i wonder if he would tell us???

  14. YUM YUM I like it!

    Bush Tea

    Hello again

    IF the construction company 3s was under contract to complete the project for a set fee and there was a system of penalties in place for late completion then it would not be possible for them to either increase their budget or delay without impinging upon their own profit margins. I am quite sure that the contract that they have with the gubbermint is NOT so well constructed!

    Builders are builders after all! If you want a job done quickly then do it on ‘price’, any mug knows that! Give them an hourly rate and they’ll make a career out of completing a garden wall!

    3s have been involved in major infrastructure (roads, bridges etc.) projects in Latin America, South America and Africa. I only know that much and cannot further elaborate.

  15. John

    I hope that the escalation in costs will not turn out to be occasioned by the discovery of underground voids which won’t support the weight of the flyovers.

    We know what happened in Warrens already with the VAT building (an extra $50Million) and the collapse under the BS&T building while under construction.

    We have long past the point where increased construction will follow the law of dimishing returns.

    Mitigating the effects of uncontrolled construction will nullify any benefits to be had from the construction.

    …. and if voids exist in the Warrens area which cost us so dearly when we go to build on them, what happens to the sewage which can easily flow through them?

    What comes to mind is the old Bajan saying about Monkey handling gun.

    Every decision taken unilaterally by one man simply because he can has the capability to haunt each and every one of us for decades to come.

    I do not think that TCP decisions are being taken in any informed way ……. and I know they are not taken to conform to any plan!!

    Sadly, the only “vision” both parties seem able to articulate is the one which involves more houses.

    … and yet old time Bajans understood what could and could not be done … and had actually documented it!!

  16. TheWatcher

    The announcment by 3S Ltd came as no shock to me regarding this project.
    It seems like our domestic contractors have learnt or are quickly learning from their foreign counterparts on how to under-bid projects and then announce cost over-runs during the course of the project.
    All I will say about this is: Contractors need to be held to the bid amount legally. When this is NOT done, they need to either;

    1. Complete the work in the scope of the contract out of pocket.

    2. Go to jail for fraud.

    That’s it. No lolly-gagging, and bush beating. Greed and stupidity are freternal twins and when you see one, the other one has to be somewhere closeby. Even in the shadows.
    I do not know who 3S is, and don’t care. But when I see certain types making claims about monies and how they should be spent, my suspicions and beliefs about them cannot be calmed.

    Jail them and their CEO or make them pay to finish this project themselves.

  17. YUM YUM I like it

    That’ll sure get the project completed, by putting the contractors in jail – good idea. NOT

  18. whatever

    elections coming up…someone gotta fund the campaign!

  19. Bashy

    To those who mentioned at this sad time the possibility of the flyovers disappearing into a void.
    This will not happen 3S did a complete seismic study plus drilling of the area prior to commencement of the work for this very reason.
    The void of misinformation is another matter.

  20. Straight talk

    Come out all guns blazing BFP!

    The flyover story is blowing wide open on BU and needs the widest participation possible.

    You can even postpone the money laundering story, if Jerome OKs it, for this could be the clincher.

  21. Wishing in Vain

    This is a biggie very big, it ties in everything I have been saying for so long about the procurement processes used by Nicholls, Bannister and company these fellows are using know crokks in all of these BOLT contracts and others, this work should be halted now, no doubt in my mind about this course of action and Owing should be asked to resign now.

    Check this one out:

    http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2007/1094.html

    Guess who is a diector of 3S
    This is a biggie the Person Danos in this action is the same person from 3 S and he is charged with corruption for work undertaken in Jamaica in what they described as the Jamaica kickback scheme.
    No wonder our road building cost have jumped from $ 60 million to $ 180 million I say stop the work now.

  22. passin thru

    Wishing in Vain… I don’t have enough knowledge of the background about what you talkin bout.

    Please explain in detail for the slo peoples like me!

    Thanking you kindly!

    😉

  23. This is great

    Read the info on the website and you learn

  24. BFP- Is it really unavoidable to have an inane two-letter comment “ok” as that currently above by Anonymous, appear under Recent Comments as a “comment”?

    Can you not install a filter so that only sentences of ten words, or so, clog up the valuable space by which we try and keep track of genuine comments?

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    BFP Replies

    Good suggestion. Haven’t got a handle on how common the problem is.

    Cliverton? Wat say?

    george

  25. Anonymous

    Surely this must hit at the heart of this corruption in Barbados !!!!
    Anyone feels that Mr Arthur will do the decent thing and step down as there is no one that can tell me that he and company were not aware of the type of company they were linking with..

  26. Wishing in Vain

    First let me express my sincere thanks to those at BU and OOPS! for fantastic investigative work to get to the root of this corrupt dishonest action.

    I have been saying for a very long time that the operators such as Nicholls, Bannister and Wilkinson are behind the deals like the oil storage facility, the prison, the flyovers the slot machines and that in none of these operations is there a single ounce of creditibilty to the ones contracted for the jobs.

    Thankfully this revelation today will bear my feelings out once and for all, I have been preaching from the start about the corruption involved in the prison project when those quoting were told to build in a commission for the gang of crooks and if they did not they would not get the contract, and Nicholls was true to his word very true because he Bannister and Owing made a killing on the project to the tune of $ 200 million more than the commission originally requested of the local contractors.

    This a most revealing hard hitting revelation on the status of the way this gov’t operates, not that it surprises me, now that it is there in black and white for all to see, I hope the ones that doubted our calls for honesty before are paying attention now.

  27. Rumplestilskin

    Now THIS is investigative journalism.

    I reiterate that last year we noted that there would be contracts rushed through at the last minute before our election.

    Has it happened? It has in the case of the flyovers, despite protestations to wait and make a more careful assessment of the need for these, from none other than qualified engineers!

    But no, it was rushed through!

    PM-In -Waiting Thompson has to make it clear that we will have full reporting from the Auditor General on this, or he will not be fulfilling his duty.

    Sir Grantley, Errol Barrow, Samuel Jackman Prescod, Charles Duncan O’Neale all genuine builders of Barbados and men of integrity must be rolling in their graves at the travesty of today’s callous mismanagement of our Nation.

    The baton that we received from these great men has been dropped by careless receivers, rather than held as a peice of gold to be cherished and carried to the next generation.

    Some may be willing to sell our Nation’s soul for trinkets, but greater powers will intervene, even if only eventually.

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  29. Neal McElroy

    READ MY WORDS: Glyne Clarke is not the Minister responsible for the Highway expansion. Too much money for him. This project is headed by the Junior Minister of Finance, Mr. Clyde Mascoll.

    When Clarke’s Ministry advised that the project should not start before the entire scope of works was known, the CABINET OF BARBADOS, UNDER THE CHAIRMANSHIP OF THE RT. HONOURABLE OWEN S. ARTHUR took the decision to go ahead.

    The project started without a clear indication of the scope of works; nor was there an independent Quantity Surveyor when the project started.

  30. Wishing in Vain

    Without being a mind reader I think we know exactly why this took place, it is pretty clear for a blind man to see that Owing has masterminded a level of corruption that is second to none.

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  32. shakshak

    ‘A project starts out at $60 million and is now said to be costing $180 million. And this is not the first time this has happened!’

    This figure has appeared out of the air. Who actually said it seeing as the Project manager of 3S ‘declined’ to give a figure.

    Adrain Loveridge on BU I presume.

  33. shakshak

    WIV
    You spend so much time thanking BU one might be forgiven in thinking you write it .
    Never heard that ‘self praise is no recomendation’

  34. shakshak

    Pandora
    Why dont do get back in de box, you dont know nothing about engineering your reckoning is the same.Costs rise while government departments dispute among themselves whose fault nothing is.

  35. All the discussions about the cost of installing flyovers in Barbados should be moot anyway. Barbados does not have the volume of traffic to warrant even the widening of the ABC Highway. There are two major types of traffic bottlenecks in Barbados. The first is at the roundabouts on the ABC and the next is at every traffic light system. The traffic lights are not properly regulated to maintain proper traffic flow. I wrote an article to the major daily but it was never published. If the lights are regulated to correspond to the volume and rate of traffic flow on either side of the intersection, the problem of bottlenecks of backed-up traffic at traffic lights would disappear. The the solution to the roundabout problem would be to replace them with properly regulated and synchronized traffic light systems. A much less costly solution which offers no opportunity for any problems with cost over-runs and kickbacks. Probably the problem is that the solution is too simple

  36. Anonymous

    The actual cost is $ 133 million US and not $ 180 Million US.

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    BFP Comments

    Really? How do we know?

    3S said $180 million. Mascoll said less. Who do you believe and why?

    With no transparency and secret side deals everywhere, how are we supposed to know where and how are money is spent?

  37. bashy

    BFP

    3S said $180 million.

    ‘While the company’s project manager George Siddall declined to say how much the final figure will be, CBC understands that the current scope of work is about three times what it was initially.’

    Actually they did not.

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    BFP Replies

    So how much was it? How Much is it?

    How much for “outside consultants”?

    Do any of the contractors, consulting companies or any other entity that is receiving money for this project have anything to do with any politician or politician’s family member?

    How do we know?

    Let’s see the contract. How is this being paid for? What are the conditions of the sale? Is it a lease? Who guaranteed payment? Was it the government? Why is that not shown in the books?

    Why is everything so secret? Does the Prime Minister have any offshore bank accounts? How about the Transport Minister? Do any members of their families have offshore accounts?

    Where did the $750,000 “campaign donation” to Owen Arthur come from? Why was the cheque made out to him personally and not his party? Why did he accept the cheque with his name on it? Why did he deposit it into his personal bank account? Was the money from any company that had anything to do with any government contract? (In that case, it would be Bajan tax dollars going to fund the BLP campaign through an intermediary company through an overpriced government contract, wouldn’t it?

    We know who you are bashy.

    Pick any question and answer it truthfully – oh, but you couldn’t possibly answer any of those questions truthfully as it would blow the whole scam.

    We know who you are.

  38. bashy

    BFP

    I have no problem at all in answering all your questions truthfully

    ‘So how much was it? How Much is it?’

    How would I know pick any figure you like . Oh sorry you already did .

    How much for “outside consultants”?
    I have no idea you tell me.

    Do any of the contractors, consulting companies or any other entity that is receiving money for this project have anything to do with any politician or politician’s family member?

    I dont know any politicians.

    ‘How do we know?’
    Know what?

    Let’s see the contract. How is this being paid for? What are the conditions of the sale? Is it a lease?

    I dont know.

    Who guaranteed payment? Was it the government? Why is that not shown in the books?

    I dont know

    Why is everything so secret? Does the Prime Minister have any offshore bank accounts? How about the Transport Minister? Do any members of their families have offshore accounts?

    I dont know why dont you ask them?

    Where did the $750,000 “campaign donation” to Owen Arthur come from? Why was the cheque made out to him personally and not his party? Why did he accept the cheque with his name on it? Why did he deposit it into his personal bank account? Was the money from any company that had anything to do with any government contract? (In that case, it would be Bajan tax dollars going to fund the BLP campaign through an intermediary company through an overpriced government contract, wouldn’t it?

    Are these real questions or more imaginative journalism?

    I fear your investigative journalism has gone down the wrong road its now well on the highway of fiction.

  39. Bashy

    Mr K of H

    Your traffic solution ie get rid of roundabouts and install more traffic lights is unfortunately light years past its sell by date.

  40. BLP Foreign Partner?

    They don’t call me ‘BLP foreign partner’ for nothing Bashy. I play that role, the ‘you can’t catch me’ role. That’s the whole point.

    We can feel you thumbing your nose at Barbados. And Barbados doesn’t like it. That’s OUR money, not yours.

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  42. bashy

    Hmmm is this topic closed or what?

  43. more

    Bashy,
    Say what you have to say and stop testing. The topic obviously is not closed. BFP told us every comment was being moderated.

  44. bashy

    Yes but some comments are more moderated than others!

  45. QUESTION

    Darned right about that! Mine is still awaiting moderation, after I asked a question in connection with a smutty comment.

  46. bashy

    If its not closed just wondered are my comments being held for days in moderation.

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    BFP Replies

    Hello Bashy

    It appears that your comments are not being held in moderation, Sometimes the filter throws them into the spam bucket and if we don’t see them they get erased. We’re talking several thousand spam comments per day so it sometimes happens that we miss a few good ones in the bunch. Sorry, but that is what happens occasionally and especially when we are under attack.

    If your comment is lengthy (and many comments are well written major works) you should save them on your PC before hitting the publish button… just in case.

    Clive

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