Let’s See The Certificates For The Chinese Workers At The Four Seasons Project!

Barbados Workers Rejected For Lack Of Trade Papers While Chinese Were Hired Without Even A Work Visa!

From the Nation News…

The BWU and Cinnamon 88 – the developers of the (Four Seasons) resort – are locked in a verbal battle with General Secretary Sir Roy Trotman who was upset after more than 60 workers were told they needed certificates in order to work on the plush upscale hotel.

Sir Roy said on Monday between 60 and 75 workers, some of whom were reapplying for work after they had been rejected or had heard nothing about their application, turned up on the construction site.

“It is true that certificates will one day be issued to skilled construction and other workers. But those will be issued based on demonstrated capacity on the actual job. It is untrue and everyone knows it – to say that locals and Caribbean citizens have not been applying for jobs at Black Rock.

“Let us stop playing games with the livelihood of Barbadian and other West Indians as it relates to the Four Seasons Hotel matter. It clearly suits some people to pretend that there is no local or regional labour. We have to ask who, whom will they choose instead, and why?” queried the union boss in a statement.

… read the full article at The Nation News (link here)

Barbados Government Should Be Honest About Those Chinese Side-Deals

For the past three years Barbados Government officials from the Prime Minister on down have been spending an increasing amount of time traveling to and from Communist China. If it isn’t a conference, then its a State Visit or a “courtesy call”. Meanwhile, Chinese companies and imported workers are beginning to pop up everywhere in Barbados. Even the night before our last “Independence” celebration, imported Chinese workers were pouring concrete where the Prime Minister was to speak.

High symbolism in that act, you know.

Our government has obviously made some agreements with the Chinese, but Bajans are still in the dark as to what has been promised and agreed to by whom.

Nothin be free, my friends.

What is happening at the Four Seasons with imported Chinese workers and the denial of jobs to qualified Bajans is merely part of the agreements that the bankrupt Barbados Government reached with the Chinese… because the treasury is empty and the Prime Minister and his gang must now rely upon foreign “charity” to keep us afloat.

But there is no “charity” from foreign countries – there is tit for tat and everything has a price.

The Four Seasons Project is just part of that price.

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41 responses to “Let’s See The Certificates For The Chinese Workers At The Four Seasons Project!

  1. Wishing in Vain

    Until we the taxpayers are told what arrangements were made between Owing and Pemberton and Owing and the President of China we will continue to see these callous acts of total disregard for rules and law and order.
    This type of behaviour is indicative of corrupt politicians who believe that they are above the law but you know what, one day coming soon people will wake and they will rise up.
    Have any of you paid attention to the rapidly growing numbers of foreigners showing up like ants around this island ?
    They are many lurking around Bay st and the south coast many from China and many from Guyana.

  2. Straight talk

    What gets me is the childish attempts to deny, pass blame and evade all sensible questions.

    We all know the reason why, but all parties are afraid to come out and say it.

    Our Prime Minister, his reverend dogsbody, the Chief Immigration Officer, the top Union leader and a hamstrung millionaire developer, all standing outside the headmaster’s office, giggling and jostling , “no, you go first”.

    Pathetic.

  3. Roger Rabbitt

    It appears that both BFP and BU have been hijacked by “the invaders”. Nothing meaningful coming from anyone. Too many issues to discuss and all these people can do is attack others for the sake of attacking?
    Not really surprised as elections are fairly close and the idea behind these attacks is really to scare the electorate into not voting at all or perhaps vote for the incumbent party out of fear.
    The BLP operatives know that a low turn out will favour their side.
    To posters like Wishing in Vain and others, no need to be fretting at this time. Just hang in there and fight the good fight. All will not be lost

  4. Roger Rabbitt

    China has to export their males as there are not enough women in China for them. The Chinese gov’t is pushing their cheap wares to all and sundry and because we are a poor nation we have no choice but to accept the aid that is offered. We have to dance to the tune being played by China. What else can we do after taking their money?

  5. Hello!!

    We need help. Lord, help us.

  6. Wishing in Vain

    This nonsense of these post would have been eliminate before they took hold and each comment removed from this site with any fuss at all, but by leaving them up these idiots feel that they have succeeded in their program to disrupt, I for one feel it necessary to resist from posting if these silly comments are allowed to continue as I do not want my intergity compromised in anyway by association with these stupid rants.

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  8. Jeppa

    Did anybody see/hear the Wrong Dishonourable Owing on TV last night saying they have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy on those who break the laws of Barbados?

    Almost broke my neck when I fell off the chair laughing.

    Jeppa

  9. Wishing in Vain

    Jeppa are you suggesting that he has zero tolerance to his own actions and the actions of many of his cronies ?
    How can he have Zero tolerance to anyone breaking the laws of the island when he was instrumental in breaking the immigration laws by allowing Pemberton to allow the Chinese workers to start work without work permits in place ?
    Does this mean that he will repay the proceeds from his share of the theft of the $ 200 million from the prison or will he return the proceeds of the sale for his granting the change of use that closed the sale on the Holders lands ? or will he apologise to members and repay them the proceeds of the cheque that he deposited to his bank account for $ 750,000.00.
    Does this mean that finally we will learn which scam Lynch pulled to get the payback for his million dollar home and the other million to renovate it ?
    Does this mean that those baths that Liz Thompson’s husband erected for mega bucks will be looked into.
    Does this mean that the real reasoning for wanting to move the squatters will be revealed ?
    Does this mean that Owing and Nicholl’s role in the importation of the 2,500 slot machines will be revealed ?
    Or how about carrying Glyne Clarke before the courts for living on gov’t lands and collecting $ 3000.00 issuing taxi or ZR permits ?
    Maybe now we will learn who the ones behind the flyover project ?

  10. YUM YUM I like it!

    ” Zero tolerance” seems to be the governments new buzz phrase. First it was against squatting, now it is crime!

    What better way to guarantee failure than to adopt ‘zero tolerance’?!?

    Maybe they should adopt a ‘zero tolerance’ to bullsh*t and corruption. Oh, I forgot they failed already!

  11. Balmoral Investments Ltd

    someone asked the question

    here is the British Columbia information. Although it is basic and doesn’t tell all, it is better than Barbados.

    incorporated July 28, 1967

    registered office Clark Wilson ( lawyers ) 800-885 West Georgia street Vancouver

    Director Angelo Petraroia 101 Island Highway Victoria B.C.

    officers Dominic, Maria and Angelo Petraroia

    same address

    Does this ring any bells? friends of anyne we know?

  12. CENTIPEDE

    PLEASE HELP ME – I have a question and would appreciate the information: is Owen Arthur the only Prime Minister in the world who does not give a press conference?

  13. Adrian Loveridge

    Balmoral Investments Ltd..

    Is the link a Barbadian registered company called Black-Amiel Management Inc. ?

  14. Straight talk

    Adrian:
    If it is anything to do with Conrad, given his current problems, it will be part of the fire sale, and then only to pay Barbara’s hairdresser!

  15. Straight talk

    While you’re on Adrian , what is your take on the Long Bay timeshare situation?

  16. Yardbroom

    That this situation of illegal Chinese workers has arisen – at The Four Seasons Project – is due in part to the inaction of Sir Roy Trotman. This issue has been a running sore for some time, and Sir Roy has failed to be galvanized in support of Barbadian workers – for which he is paid – as a result their interest has been negleted.

    Some would argue better late now than never, but an issue of such a major concern to Barbados, and its workers in particular, would have been addressed by a “true representative” of Barbadian workers some time ago.

  17. Wishing in Vain

    He is slow to react because he was hoping that this would blow over, it is only when Bizzy felt that he was being undone by these policies that he activated and in doing so Trotman felt obliged to say something but my bet is if Bizzy had not reacted not a word would have been heard from Trotman, he to is on the payroll of Owing and is part of Owing’s politics of inclusion program.
    They have no right here and both Pemberton and Patterson should have been fined and the workers evicted and sent back from where they came.

  18. Wishing in Vain

    in response to Adrian .
    Black-Amiel Management was owned by Lord Black, his wife and Mr. Boultbee, the report alleged. It added that the companies were set up largely for tax purposes.
    A private holding company, Toronto-based Ravelston Corp. Ltd., controlled by Lord Black, also had connections to a couple of offshore entities. According to court filings, Ravelston had a subsidiary in Barbados called Argent News Inc. and another in Bermuda called Sugra Bermuda Ltd.

  19. Adrian Loveridge

    Wishing In Vain..

    the Petraroria family are listed as directors of Balmoral Investments Ltd and they are also named in an investigation into various entities connected with Lord (is he still) Conrad Black.

    Straight Talk..

    Long Beach Club.

    An interesting one.

    Hotel # 26 bits the dust over the last 12 years.

    As you know our little hotel is only a half a mile away from Long Beach. Almost everyday we are repairing or replacing something due to constant salt sea blast, so I know their construction integrity problems.
    But, if as according to media reports they have not even applied for planning permission to expand the hotel before reconstructing, I really don’t know, if or when the could consider re-opening.

    The other thing also in the background, remember
    that all or part of Chancery Lane Swap was sold and outlining planning permission was (I think) granted for a wellness condominium development.

    Could this have any connection?

    Also as you know, Long Beach Club is primarily a timeshare property. How are they going to explain to all those people booked for next winter?

  20. connect the dots

    What is the common denominator between Norwoods, Kingsland and Long Beach?

    The correct answer is Richard Cox who apparently has planning permission in his side pocket.

    Has his 80 year plus lady business partner in Long Beach fully been fully informed of all the deals and various offers?

  21. Anonymous

    adrian town planning permission has been applied for for the rebuilding of long beach hotel go chech for yourselve

  22. Anonymous

    long beach hotel has been sold

  23. Adrian Loveridge

    Anonymous…

    Then the media got it wrong. They stated that planning permission had NOT yet been applied for.
    Who has Long Beach been sold to?

  24. Straight talk

    Sorry about that Adrian, I only asked a simple question about your neighbours and it seems to have opened the cupboard door allowing the skeletons to fall out.

  25. Adrian Loveridge

    No problem Straight Talk…
    We seem to have so many skeletons lurking in cupboards in Barbados.

    Even if Anonymous is right about planning permisson, I cannot see there is sufficient time to demolish/re-build Long Beach Club in time for the all important winter season. That is unless a Chinese company has been contracted.

    Almond Casuarina is a classic example.
    I cannot even imagine having all that capital tied up while they awaited planning permission (remember Ralph Taylor talking about it) and then the protracted construction phase.

    All I know is that it is another lost hotel and 20 more tourism workers out of a job.

  26. Adrian Loveridge

    Long Beach Hotel is currently being advertised for sale by Property Investments Worldwide Ltd, Tropical Complex, Holetown, St. James T 432 4663 and listed on http://www.primelocation.com at an asking price of UK Pounds 3,785,000 (about BDS$15 million).

    It includes 10 acres, 24 junior suites, restaurant, swimming pool and bar.

    ‘The footprint of the buildings and facilities occupy less that 1/4 of the site and the remaining acreage is ideal for a resort developmentof up to 250 rooms’.

    Anyone remember Commonwealth Holiday Inns of Canada?

    By my rough calculations, excluding any value for buildings or goodwill, that would put the value at about BDS$35 a square foot.

    The sale description ends with an interesting note ‘The transaction would be completed by the purchase of shares in 2 BVI corporations’.

    Anyone know which BVI Corporations?

  27. FixWhat?

    “We need help. Lord, help us.”

    Dat can’t work now: we past dat.
    In fact dat’s de reason we in de ca-ca as deep as we is.
    waiting on prayers to work? Ha!
    Is only WE dat can fix our problems, no big man up-in de sky.
    get real

  28. ZeroTolerance, my FOOT!

    Zero Tolerance is bare shirt talk.
    Sounds good, doesn’t it?
    Sounds like copy cat BS to me, a la Geo.Bush bullshirt.

    NOthing gets my goat more than to talk of “Zero Tolerance”, since it’s so entirely impractical.
    That’s why I have ZERO TOLERANCE for the BLP and their BullShiRt.

  29. more

    “What is the common denominator between Norwoods, Kingsland and Long Beach?”

    Connect the dots, you can add Lowthers to your list.

  30. Fergie

    Outline planning permission granted for Chancery Lane swamp for condos?

    Is it possible that permission was granted under the terms of the PROPOSED AND STILL UNAPPROVED 2003 (Amended) National Physical Development Plan?

  31. de gap

    “The flip side; beyond the DLP propaganda”

    Mon·sieur Pemberton sets the record straight:
    “THE COMPANY CATEGORICALLY DENIES THAT ANY APPLICANTS WERE REQUIRED TO PRODUCE CERTIFICATES AS PROOF OF THEIR SKILL.” ( Sir Roy gets it wrong again)

    “ALL INTERVIEWS ARE CONDUCTED IN THE PRESENCE OF AN OFFICER FROM THE LABOUR DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY IN THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS.” (ingratiatingly obliging by any standard)

    “FROM THE INCEPTION OF THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS IN MID-JUNE A TOTAL OF 200 APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. OF THESE EIGHTY-TWO (82) PEOPLE WERE INTERVIEWED WITH A FURTHER SIXTY-THREE (63) INTERVIEWS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK.” (Monsieur Pemberton don’t bend over too far)

    “FIFTY-FIVE (55) APPLICANTS WERE NOT SHORT-LISTED FOR INTERVIEWS FOR VARIOUS REASONS. FROM THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THE APPLICATION FORMS, THIRTY EIGHT (38) COULD NOT PROVIDE ANY PROOF THAT THEY HAD A LEGAL RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN EMPLOYMENT (This white man like he working for immigration)

    “SEVEN (7) PROVIDED NO CONTACT INFORMATION (what are you going to do with country people?),

    SIX (6) COULD NOT BE CONTACTED ON THE TELEPHONE NUMBERS SUPPLIED (ghetto-fab-u-lous)

    AND THE REMAINING FOUR (4) WERE NOT SHORTLISTED. ONE OF THESE FOUR ADMITTED TO REPEATED ABSENTEEISM AS THE REASON FOR LOSING HIS PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT AND THE OTHER QUIT HIS JOB BECAUSE THE WORK SITE IN CHRIST CHURCH WAS TOO FAR FROM HIS ST. MICHAEL HOME. (neantherals still walk the earth)

    “FORTY-SEVEN (47) PEOPLE, SO FAR, HAVE BEEN PROMISED EMPLOYMENT ONCE THE PROJECT STARTS. CINNAMON 88 WISHES TO RE-ITERATE THAT IT ISNOT ANTI-LOCAL OR ANTI-REGIONAL LABOUR.” (nuff said)

  32. Straight talk

    Right, but not quite right Pemberton.

    More than 50% of those interviewed were ineligible to work here.

    Your words.

    De Gap says 82 interviewed, 47 promised jobs, all under Labour Department supervision.

    Are you saying that the Labour Department has connived with your company to employ illegal workers?

  33. gentle jim

    Wonder if the workers at TGIF are all Bajans???
    Or if not do they have work permits.Wonder also if they will be working like how Cheffete workers have to???

  34. We’re quite happy with the job that Chinese workers have done on the three major projects they’re working on right now in Trinidad. And I should know – one of them is my official residence.

    You might want to make sure, however, that the game of mahjongg isn’t being played at any of the construction sites, as that practice was made illegal a few days ago. See the following for details:

    http://patrickmanning.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/between-me-and-me/
    http://patrickmanning.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/hus-to-blame/

  35. Wishing in Vain

    CSME folks blame everything on it each of Owing stupid decisions and actions.

  36. George

    I heard on a call-in program, a few weeks ago, a Senator stating that the chinese workers came across to barbados from St. Lucia. Etc. Etc. Let me tell him, that for the last six weeks, every Friday, Chinese workers have been arriving on the German airline Condor, between ten and seventeen in number per week and three weeks ago 27 came. And the route:- China/Frankfurt/Barbados. Let the Senator prove me wrong and in Public.

  37. gentle jim

    Maybe we should had gotten the Chinese to build the roads. We might not have to pay 3 times the original figure of US$60 million now projected to US$180 million. This Govt is making sure that if they lose the next election the country will have an enormous debt.to repay
    God help Barbados

  38. Adrian Loveridge

    George…

    Interesting one.
    If they are arriving on Condor, these are the flights subsidised by the BTA (taxpayer).
    They call it ‘marketing support’.

    Will they count as long stay visitor arrivals, so that the Minister can boast of an increased market share from China?

    So let me see if I fully understand this.

    Government is subsidising the transportation of Chinese workers to put Bajans and other Caribbean nationals out of work.

    If I have got it wrong, could someone please explain it to me.

  39. Fred

    Are you aware that the reconstructed Coconut Creek Condos of which Robin Patterson is a major shareholder is suffering from foundation problems as this was built on top of caves and now nearing completion and is collapsing there is a funny connection with Patterson, Coconut Creek and Paradise as Paradise also sits on top of caves.
    Hopefully he did not use inferior quality steel in Coconut Creek as he is using in the Paradise project nor the cheap Chinese workers as he is using at Paradise.

  40. Fred

    I seriously question the standards in place at the Coconut Creek site of which Patterson is a main shareholder and developer, if he is prepared to accept inferior quality steel at the Paradise project has he also accepted lesser quality materials at the Coconut Creek location in his effort to reduce his building cost ?
    I doubt that MrTrotman was kidding when he made it public that the steel imported and being used at Paradise was of an inferior quality to what is expected with the British standards.
    Cost and saving money is the prime concern in a project of this magnitude and scope, and they are doing their best by employing the illegal Chinese workers and using 2 nd grade raw materials steel being but one of them.
    Question is Coconut Creek sinking because of inferior quality products or because this too is being built on a cavern or the two combined?

  41. Yardbroom

    International News: Wednesday 26th Sept 2007

    Beijing police round up and beat African expats, son of Grenada’s Ambassador also beaten.

    ” At least 20 black men, including students, tourists and the son of a Caribbean diplomat, were arrested in a popular nightclub district of Beijing on Friday, several of the group being severely beaten on suspicion of dealing drugs, witnesses said.
    African expatriates in Beijing and witnesses claim the episode revealed a pervasive prejudice toward dark-skinned foreigners in China.
    According to five bystanders, teams of police, dressed in black jumpsuits and reportedly wielding batons and taser guns, cordoned off a street in the popular Sanlitun nightclub district at around midnight and rounded up almost all black men there. Many of the men were beaten.
    The raid took place in front of hundreds of stunned expatriates outside the packed bars and clubs of the neighbourhood, which is popular with Beijing’s burgeoning foreign community.
    ” I saw a guy being beaten by these kids. He wasn’t doing anything. He wasn’t fighting back,” said one witness, a white American college graduate working in Beijing.
    “I have not really ever seen anything so brutal,” said another American. ” there was blood on the streets. They were basically beating up any black person they could find”
    Beijing police yesterday declined to confirm or deny the incident.
    The detainees included 22-year-old Joslyn Whiteman, son of Grenada’s ambassador. One witness said he saw police grab Mr. Whiteman and beat him repeatedly, despite onlookers crying out,”stop! He’s a diplomat!”According to the South China Morning Post, Mr. Whiteman spent the night in a hospital with concussion.
    “Obviously I’m very angry,” the ambassador, the elder Mr. Whiteman, told the Post. “My son was arrested and beaten for no reason…I will be taking this up with the authorties and looking into the matter”
    Chinese investment in developing countries, and especially Africa, has prompted a reverse migration to China to study, work and learn the language. However, many African Immigrants have entered China illegally and work as drug mules, a trade that is highly lucrative but which can bring the death penalty.
    African dealers in Beijing offer a wide range of drugs, from cocaine to ecstasy, to a mostly expat market. Sanlitun was once a dealer’s haven but has been substantially cleaned up by roundups. None, though, approached the scale or violence of that on Friday night, described as “excessive” and “chotic” by witnesses. ” I wasn’t surprised[by the use of violence],” one person said. “I’ve seen this kind of thing happen before, but never against foreigners in front of other foreigners.”
    This latest raid comes as part of the effort to clean up Beijing ahead of next month’s annual meeting of Communist party leaders and the 2008 Olympic Games, based in the city.
    Africans say that living in China in the face of pervasive prejudice can be challenging. When Beijing rolled out the red carpet for more than 40 African heads of state last November, billboards depicting Africans clad in leopard skin underwear, and an indigenous man from Papua New Guinea, plastered the City.”
    Jennifer Brea: Beijing The Guardian London/Manchester