Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary Almost Financially Self-Supporting

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A very few BFP commenters (it seems with an agenda to discredit the Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary and donor Peter Allard) posted information that the people of Barbados shouldn’t even want to own the Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary as it is (so they say) a liability, not an asset.

Nevermind the issue of a clean and stable watershed. Nevermind the natural beauty and tourism attraction. Nevermind that the Barbados Government pumps millions of dollars annually into schemes that make the medieval quest to turn lead into gold almost legitimate… the commenters with an agenda declared that the Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary was loosing millions of dollars every year.

Here is what the Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary has to say about those comments…

Dear Barbados Free Press,

Here is some information which may shed some light on recent comments by certain readers of BFP in regard to Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary.

Some of these reader comments are not true. There are many good-hearted and well-meaning people in and out of Government who know
this, and believe that a National Park at Graeme Hall would be a good thing. Here are my responses:

The Allard investment in the Sanctuary is in excess of US $16 million.

Total acreage of the Sanctuary is 34.25 acres. The Offer made in December 2007 included donation of 25 of those acres plus financial and
technical services to improve and manage the Graeme Hall green space in its entirety as a National Park for all Barbadians. The donation
offer represented the largest single philanthropic offer ever made by Peter Allard, or the Allard Family, worldwide.

As this is being written, Mr. Allard is investing nearly Bds $900,000 to install an upgraded Nature Pathway System with an additional 60
interpretive exhibit signs for birds and botanicals, plus additional infrastructure improvements, all of which are designed to last another
20-25 years. He cannot profit from these investments. If he didn’t care, or if he wanted to make as much money as possible from a sale, he
wouldn’t do it. This philanthropic investment, as well as countless others, will never be repaid to Mr. Allard, except in the sense that he
will know he has done the right and ethical thing for the people of Barbados.

Sanctuary operations are rapidly moving toward break-even status. Based on the hard work by Harry Roberts and his staff, break-even
operations are expected within the first quarter of next year (2008).

Mr. Allard has always known that there would be a day when the future of the Sanctuary would need to be assured beyond his lifetime, and for that
reason alone it is best for us and best for the Government and people of Barbados to address how the Sanctuary and surrounding lands can be
protected in perpetuity. It is not in anyone’s best interest to wait for the disposition of the Sanctuary to become an estate issue, as no
one can assure the people of Barbados that Mr. Allard’s heirs would have the long-term interests of Barbados at heart.

Stuart Heaslet
Board Representative
Oversight and Philanthropy
Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary

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66 responses to “Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary Almost Financially Self-Supporting

  1. Anonymous

    I told you they were losing big money. You want to put these loss’s on our backs than OPEN the BOOKS to public scrutiny. We have that right. BFP is always complaining and asking for transparency so you should support this, otherwise it is you who have a hidden agenda.The Bird and Swamp People are so desperate for revenues they are even having jump ups at the bird swamp with the Merrymen. You stated that noise would drive the birds away. Are they gone now ? Are they extinct yet as per that Bird Brain? It’s suppose to break even 1st quarter of 2008. What a joke trying to pull this hoax on us. I stopped believing in Santa Claus a long time ago !
    Mr. Allards finger is stuck in the Bird Swamp bread basket so let it stay there. Why is he so anxious to dump it onto us? If he is worried about what happens after his passing he can easily make provisions in his will to support the Bird swamp. It should not be our obligation to bail out ANY Private Business. Who will be next ?
    In actuality you are turning GOLD into Lead. You, yourself said the GH farmland is priceless and we are suppose to just give it away to The Bird and Swamp People, you DIZZY!!!

  2. joe bloggs

    How can this EVER be a bad investment? Even if it ended up costing the Barbadian taxpayer…at least this is something that will benefit our people for generations to come. Not like some of the disgusting developments which are raping our environment to line the pockets of a select few. How shortsighted can you get? Have you not noticed that the whole world is waking up to the environmental catastrophe which man has created? Soon from now, there won’t be much for tourists to come to Barbados to see except concrete. It’s time we reflect on what we really value in life.

  3. Jason

    Anonymous HAS to be the waterpark developer. Has to be.

    Or Owen Arthur trying to drive down the price of the last piece of open ground in the south so he can build condos.

    Look at the photo and tell me that Allard’s offer of “FREE” was trying to “dump” it on the citizens of Barbados. People would kill for that land.

  4. Jason

    BFP, where is “anonymous” coming from? Where does Matthew Kerins live? Are they the same?

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    BFP Replies…

    Hi Jason

    The IP address for “Anonymous” is indeed near to the New Jersey/New York location of Waterpark Developer Matthew Kerins. Must be a coincidence, huh?

  5. Anonymous

    Sell the swamp TO THE TRINIS!

  6. Anonymous

    Sometimes the truth hurts !! I certainly don’t advise killing anybody like one of your bloggers suggest but people will pay good money for the gh farmland that benefits ALL people, not just the Bird People or the people on the Graeme Hall Ridge who by the way are having a dengue fever outbreak.

    I see that BFP has no advertising, sells no merchandising items so I would like to ask you one thing. Do you live on air and eat sand for dinner. Who supports this blog financially ? George Soros supports the radical left wing website called Move On .ORG. Therefore, who gives you money to espouse their hidden agenda using you as their puppets of tearing our government apart. The present Government has given the great majority of us the greatest properity we have ever known !

    It is very clear that your baseless attacks on Government institutions, Ministries, public and elected officials are officious. It is pure charactor assasinatin on public individuals which breed a cynicism in government that hurts the Nation as a whole.

    I suggest you print what was on BBC World News recently. It was news on a well known independent Berlin, German based anti-corruption Agency called ” Transparency Internation “. Barbados achieved a great distinction as being the most honest for lack of corruption among public officials and politicians. We were ranked # ONE for the Caribbean region. Number 24 on a world wide basis out of 169 countries. We were right behind the industrialized nations. We owe our leaders a standing ovation for their silent diligence and honesty. Now you can ban me from your blog since I am certainly not on your page. After Owen Arthur is re-elected I will send you some engraved BFP Crying Towels. Of course they will be beach towel size since cry babies tears are profuse.

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    BFP Replies to anonymous who asks “Who Supports This Blog Financially”

    BFP Replies

    WordPress is free and you can start your own blog in 15 minutes by going to WordPress.com

    There are six of us at BFP – Marcus, Shona, Robert, Cliverton, George and Auntie Moses. Not everybody posts every day. Usually one or two volunteer for Spam and Comment Moderation although George is our rock in this area.

    We would LOVE to do this for a living but as you can appreciate a revenue-generation model for BFP would be a bad idea even if it could be self-supporting. The reason that we often don’t post for 24 hours or that no one moderates comments for a day is that we all have day jobs (or night jobs if we’re talking Marcus).

    Government supporters initially claimed that we were DLP funded until we started taking the opposition to task. Then they were lost because the one thing they just can’t have is the truth – we’re only a bunch of p’d off citizens who would like our elites to stop stealing from us.

    Our attacks on corruption do not hurt the nation as a whole, the corruption hurts the nation as a whole.

    Now anonymous, please tell us about that $750,000 “campaign donation” that the Prime Minister deposited into his PERSONAL bank account and never even told his party about until Thompson mentioned it in Parliament…

    And, oh yes, is it OK that a Minister of Government approved a land expropriation and then ended up building his house on it?

    Over to you anonymous…

  7. Roger Rabbitt

    Freedom to speak does not mean freedom to abuse that right or priviledge and it is time that the IP address be banned for that anonymous. He spouts nothing but venom.

  8. BFP

    BFP Replies to anonymous who asks “Who Supports This Blog Financially”

    BFP Replies

    WordPress is free and you can start your own blog in 15 minutes by going to WordPress.com

    There are six of us at BFP – Marcus, Shona, Robert, Cliverton, George and Auntie Moses. Not everybody posts every day. Usually one or two volunteer for Spam and Comment Moderation although George is our rock in this area.

    We would LOVE to do this for a living but as you can appreciate a revenue-generation model for BFP would be a bad idea even if it could be self-supporting. The reason that we often don’t post for 24 hours or that no one moderates comments for a day is that we all have day jobs (or night jobs if we’re talking Marcus).

    Government supporters initially claimed that we were DLP funded until we started taking the opposition to task. Then they were lost because the one thing they just can’t have is the truth – we’re only a bunch of p’d off citizens who would like our elites to stop stealing from us.

    Our attacks on corruption do not hurt the nation as a whole, the corruption hurts the nation as a whole.

    Now anonymous, please tell us about that $750,000 “campaign donation” that the Prime Minister deposited into his PERSONAL bank account and never even told his party about until Thompson mentioned it in Parliament…

    And, oh yes, is it OK that a Minister of Government approved a land expropriation and then ended up building his house on it?

    Over to you anonymous…

  9. Bless you BFP for confirming that “anonymous” is either Kerins himself or one of his toadies.

    Now we can safely disregard any of his biased nonsens as we know he has a crooked financial agenda involved, trying hard to pollute our precious environment with his promotion of a Coney Island style water park for his personal gain.

    It is wonderful news that the Nature Sanctuary will soon be self-sustaining. Of course break-even on expenses is a far cry from earning a decent income on an investment of US$16myn. That vast sum is Mr Allard’s donation to the wellbeing of Barbadians, for which, I trust we shall be grateful in perpetuity.

    Meantime we must keep up the pressure on the politicians who may stand to gain from Caribbean Splash or the sale or development of the other large areas presently used by Ministry of Agriculture. We must hang tight for our National Park.

  10. Anonymous

    Thank you for your clarity which I appreciate. If any public figure does a improper transaction than he should be taken to task by the facts not innuendo.
    As to Greengage, his facts are very much like himself, ” COCKEYED “.
    As to the Bird sanctuary tourist venue’s financial troubles, bad business decisions always end up being donations. It is the owners problem not the public’s. It is a very nice place and I hope it stays that way but not at our expense. Private business should eat their own loss’s and not put it onto our backs. The government is smart not putting this lead weight on us. If it were a Harrison Cave which has broad appeal than ok. There cash registers go Ka-ching Ka-ching for all our benefit.

  11. Jason

    Anonymous says “If any public figure does a improper transaction than he should be taken to task by the facts not innuendo.”

    FACT IS that the PM deposited a $750,000 cheque “campaign donation” that was made out to him personally into his own personal bank account and not the BLP’s bank account.

    That is a fact.

    It is also a fact that none of the reporters have the balls to ask him about it or mention it outside of Parliament because the little dictator would have them fired.

    Far as Gline Clarke goes, he built the house on expropriated land. Doctor Duguid right in this blog said it was for his outside woman and confirmed that it was Clarke.

    The land had previously been expropriated by government for “public housing”. The cabinet that approved the expropriation would happen to be the same cabinet of which Mr. Clarke is a government minister.

    That is fact.

  12. Anonymous

    To BFP: If you are right about being in the top 100 blogs world wide than you have a good platform for generating revenues. Please understand, it is not a crime to generate revenue for one’s labors. It would be wise to hire an advertising marketer to sell space on your website to the air and hotel industry first. Although I strongly disagree with most of your views it certainly does not pollute my mind for a good business model which you have. You can even contract out merchandising such as hats, shirts etc.. If you find it distasteful making money than give it to a charity.

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    BFP Replies

    Nothing wrong with making honest money. We can’t go to a revenue model because the government would then know who we are and unethically use their power to attack our families. That is the way it is done ’round here.

  13. Anonymous (no longer) says:
    “Private enterprise should eat their own losses, not put in onto our backs” in referring to Graeme Hall Nature Sanctuary.

    When have they ever done, or suggested, doing this?

    Money-grubbing free enterprise may be OK in certain circumstances, but not at the expense of our nation’s environment.

    Kerins clearly comes from the slums and sets his standards by them. It seems he has never known the pleasures of natural environment, poor feller. But don’t let him try and impose his gutter values on us.

  14. Anonymous

    We fall on different sides of the fence but if that were to happen I would be immediately on your side of the fence. You don’t mess or harm individuals family which are sacosanct. They would be a uproar !!
    As to business, what about a offshore company with nominee names.

  15. Anonymous

    You are flogging a dead horse Greengage !! The National Park was D.O.A. in the beginning. It is simply not economic or cost effective for the general benefit of the total population. Regardles of whether a water park is there or not the land will be eventually developed. Read the tea leaves which are quite obvious. I believe the bird sanctuary in the end will remain in tact which is 90% of the issue. The ducks will be waddling and the cranes a swooping to the tunes of The Merrymen for the future. Have no fear.

  16. Surely, the Greame Hall nature sanctuary (not the body corporate) and its immeadiate environs must at all costs be preserved perpetually as some of the few remaining natural wetlands of Barbados, as some of the last remaining natural habitats for many birds, fish, other animals and various forms of flora that live in Barbados, and as some of the few elegant examples of the precious little ecological bio-diversity that the country has to offer.

    That Mr Allard, reportedly a Canadian, has been so magnanimous and philantropic in his outlook and activity that he, and, of course, others, could have and did so feel the inescapable need to substantially transform much of that region from being a environmental wasteland, and an almost forgotten area threatened by many dumped pollutants and by physical encroachments which suggested lack of consideration for its potential ecological significance, to a pictureque and thrilling and awe-inspiring nature-based showpiece eminently idealising how man and nature can sometimes work in harmony for the betterment of ourselves, and how private and public interests can work magnificently to achieve certain environmental objectives, must mean that great and long-lasting praises must go to this man and those others who have worked assidiously over the recent years to make this region an wonderful attraction for locals and visitors alike, and to painstakingly help raise the environmental consciousness of Barbadians and visitors alike. No doubt he and they have been somewhat successful in both regard!!

    Also, some four months ago some of the members of our party did tour this sanctuary, and how very delighted and impressed they were by it and what they observed – the spacious and well kept parking facilities, some well manicured and grassed areas, the expanse of the water and the trees that drank from it, the meretricious fish in it, the winding boardwalk(s) to facilitate movement to certain parts of the sanctuary deemed accessible to the public, the interpretative and instructive written information about the sanctuary’s flora and fauna as detailed on signboards and which are so strategically placed at various points in the publicly accessible parts of the sanctuary, the quaint information booth/the bird lookout and the lovely emporium, the beautiful and exotic birds in the aviaries, among other things.

    And of course the knowledge of the guides at the Sanctuary and their friendliness as well as members of the public coming together and interacting and being happy and excited about the occasion and the facility itself made the tour more than educational and enjoyable for our members!!

    So therefore why must there be so many seemingly unending controversies surrounding this beautiful sanctuary and its environs, from talk about investors who wish, or wished, to place a water park so perilously close to this region, to issues related to other land developers who wish to acquire or who have already acquired lands in the vicinity of the swamp and wish to or are already building upon those lands; and from issues concerning who will own the sanctuary if the present alleged for sale bid of the Sanctuary and its properties is certified, and what will be done with it thereafter, to some prattle and stuttering action on the part of some concerning whether this sanctuary and its immediate environs should be central to a wider, designated Greame Hall National Park region??

    Finally, why there are so many public and private controversies surrounding this sanctuary and its environs must substantially have to do with the fact that Ms. Liz Thompson and this BLP Government really do not have any serious and coherent environmental policy for the protection and sound development of this natural habitat and its environs, and one that involves the distinct possibility of this truly prized piece of Barbadian territory and wetlands becoming held in trust by the government of this country, esp. if it is likely to get into the wrong hands, and one that places the environmental and ecological importance of this sanctuary, of this habitat, of these wetlands and their preservation to Barbados far above other assumed financial, material and other importances. A newly elected PDC Government shall surely swiftly correct these glaring environmntal and policy deficiencies related to the sanctuary and its environs.

    BFP, Keep the good work up of helping to inform many Barbadians on many political, social, business, environmental scores, whether locally, regionally and internationally!!

  17. Anonymous

    nasty swamp ,,,,get rid of it and build some houses

  18. Anonymal

    Anonymous has the narrow mindset of a typical developer who does not understand basic social health requirements of progressive urban nations.

    It was a good thing people like him were not allowed to “develop” the lands at Central Park, Hyde Park, Griffith Park, Stanley Park, and many

    He says, “It (the Graeme Hall National Park) is simply not economic or cost effective for the general benefit of the total population.”

    Anonymous is not too bright, but he is loud. For him it is only about money.

    Notice how he has backed off from the pro-waterpark argument.

    Notice how he insists that “development” is the only practical option for the last remaining usable recreational green space on the South Coast.

    Notice how he avoids the fact that the Sanctuary is within protected wetlands, and that the buffer lands and potential National Park recreational lands are outside the Sanctuary and RAMSAR boundaries.

    Maybe he has another deal cooking with Barbados, maybe with the owner of Simpson Motors who can help him massage a more secret government-funded deal that would help him pay off his waterpark loss.

  19. DFX

    I am the 1st to admit I am hard on Mr. Allard of the Kingsland issue and the lawsuit filed in Canada, but; the GHNP is a whole different issue! I think the GHNP is a wonderful gift that he has given the island and I respect him for that. It would be a dark day for us if they ever converted it into condos. I’m sure that with Uncle Harry (he would kill me for calling him that now) at the helm it will not only break even but make big money next year.

    So “anonymous” keep your water park, I’ll stick with my nasty swamp and mosquitoes.

    DFX

  20. Anonymous

    yall and this swamp talk just makes me laugh a nasty swamp with nothing to it and we need land for housing jeez yall r a bunch of ignorant ***************************************************************************************

    From BFP Auntie Moses…

    Comment edited for foul language. This commenter’s IP has been banned.

  21. Anonymous

    oh yeah water park is still a possibility

  22. Anonymous

    protected wetlands hahahahahaha get rid of them

  23. DFX

    Ya know I was just remembering when as a youngster they used to have camps at the old Yoga Centre. They would take us over to the swamp at least once during the camp. To this day I can still remember walking along the bank of the swamp and how funny it felt to be walking and what looked like solid ground that was “springy” when you stepped on it.
    I can remember the camp guide telling us how the insects laid their eggs on the water or at the edge of the plants and that the fish ate the insects and the eggs and the birds and us people ate the fish. That was 30 nuf years ago and I still remember and cherish those days, it was an education that no school book could give me. Now it has been developed but with respect to Mother Nature I think it is an invaluable educational tool for our youth.
    There are more important things than money!

    DFX

  24. Anonymous

    When I was a youngster people use to go bird shooting at the swamp which fortunately does not happen now.

    I do believe equating The Swamp with Hyde Park, Yellowstone and Central Park is somewhat of a stretch to say the least. I did not see a sewage plant in the middle of Hyde Park etc.. Now that you are incorporated you can raise the funds to buy the Bird Swamp. You have all these environmental agencys world wide that are going to flood you with money as per your comments. If that is a problem go to the supposed 6000 bird people whose viewpoint is for the birds. They should be able to help you.

    If that is a problem you can finally go to that secretive committee called The Friends of Graeme Hall who keep refusing to list their names, WHY ? Most committee’s list their names to show that they support the community. Not this one which leads one to believe it is for nefarious purposes. What I found most amusing was the million dollar plus Olympic Archery facility you plan. I can only assume and imagine it is a sport for one of these secretive committee members. Please tell him to come out of the closet and take a ” bow ” so we may put a apple on his head.

  25. Shrek

    6000 persons have told the Barbados government that the site in question should NOT be used for a waterpark. That is a significant part of the Bajan population, and their names are at government headquarters. 3% of the population have signed this petition.

    The plans for the green space are not finished, but one would not imagine a Coney Island waterpark is included, nor is considered appropriate by the 6000 by their word.

    Respect the 6000 signatures, Barbados Government.

  26. Peltdown Man

    Anonymous

    Private business should eat their own loss’s and not put it onto our backs.
    __________________________________

    Oh good! So Kerins is prepared to buy the land for the proposed waterpark instead of leasing it from the taxpayers, thereby having each and every one of support his profits?

  27. Peltdown Man

    Sorry. That should read “each and everyone of us support his profits?”

  28. Anonymous

    It is better to BUY land than Lease it. Than you ride the appreciation value of the land.

  29. Anonymal

    The Great Logic of Anonymous continues. It appears he would rather see HOUSES around a sewage treatment plant, instead of open space.

    He continues to stand for money, not about the public welfare. Perhaps he should learn from history, and research whether the citizens of New York were required to “buy” Central Park in order to make it happen.

  30. Anonymous

    I care very much about money when people are trying to pick my pockets. That National Park will cost every man woman and child $ 2000.00 each and counting. How on earth will we be able to afford to pay for our archery equipment which runs into the thousands. It prices out 90% of the general population due to cost. The million dollar plus Olympic Archery facility came like a thunderbolt out of the clear blue sky. We can only assume it is a member of the secretive Friends of Graeme Hall committee ( names never published, WHY !! ) Again, I ask that secretive member to come out of hiding and take a bow. A number of people would like to put a apple on your head.

  31. Anonymous

    Hi Shrek, I would like to give you a quick ABC in polling. The polling/petition method that the Secretive Friends of Graeme Hall comittee executed is akin to what you call a Push pol/petition or a Pseudo poll/petition . Here is how it works which is usually done on the internet. You have a website that has a specific interest. In this case it is the Bird Sanctuary. People who have a specific interest in that area are the individuals who usually visit the website. On the website you have 11 pretty pictures and loaded prose to get the response you desire which is easy since they already have that specific interest. After getting those responses you put it into the public domain as if it is the wish’s of the general populace. You do this in order to try and sway the general populace and decision makers to your cause purporting it to be the general populations viewpoint which it is not. In actuality it is not a scientific poll that reflects the general public’s view. It is a poll that is erroneously skewed towards the Bird People whose viewpoint is naturally for the birds.

    I remember when Caribbean Splash did 2 full page middle spread advertisements in The Nation Newspaper and The Advocate newspaper. I had a interest in seeing what there pull would be since CS website address was on it. I know The Nation has a 55,000 Sunday circulation with 196,000 readership as per there rate card. I don’t have The Advocates circulation numbers presently. When the first advertisements ran Caribbean Splash had 74,000 hits on there website. They did another full page middle Sunday spread ad a few months later and had 68,000 hits. Between the first ad and after the second by several months there were over 200,000 hits on there website. If they do the exact same thing such as 11 pictures of there exciting rides and park with instructions to go to there website and click a button if they want a water park in Barbados with a great view and gentle bajan breez off the abc highway at GH. This truly would reflect the general population’s viewpoint. The response would make the 6000 you mention miniscule. Stay tuned .

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    BFP Comments…

    Actually Anonymous, Barbados Free Press put up the Caribbean Splash website too. Perhaps those hits were BFP readers learning more about the enemy.

    The fact that you would know such intimate details of the Caribbean Splash website traffic confirms exactly who you are – not that we needed it. THANKS!

  32. Hants

    The Government of Barbados has a duty of care to protect Natural Environments like Graeme Hall for future generations of Barbadian children.

    We need this Oasis in our developing concrete jungle.

  33. Waterboy

    Anonymous, information just coming to hand, from more than one very reliable source, indicates that Matthew Kerins accompanied by Hallam Nicholls attended a meeting with Ocean Park management.

    Tell us, is or was Hallam Nicholls a “consultant” for Kerins and the Waterpark?

  34. reality check

    good chance Hallam was just protecting his and the PM’s retirement fund and letting Ocean Park know that the ” government of one ” is onside.

  35. Anonymous

    You are flogging a dead horse !! It is just common sense and economic reality. There is no reason to blame me for that. Just reason it for yourself. You are possibly going to lose what would have been the anchor for the National Park which was the Bird Sanctuary. Eventually it could very well end up being a addendum to a large resort or condominium project which will have the financial muscle to keep it protected and proper. NoFurthermore, we know this bird sanctuary business geared to eco-tourism is a financial failure or at least a money losing company. Next question, what is there capitalization. Is it 100% equity or is it burdened with a debt component in there capitalization. If so, what is there debt to equity ratio. If it does have a debt component than it is a joke if you expect to bail out a money losing private business on the backs of the public plus put a sack of yams ( DEBT ) on our backs to boot. There financials should be open to public scrutiny and to financial people who understand creative financial window dressing. I do not accuse but it is best to be safe than sorry.
    Secondly, you are putting the cart before the horse. You are saying give us National Park status First, than we will do dis and dat which is a giant leap of faith. What happens if you cannot do dis and dat ? The public is out about 500 million dollars and in return get rab land for it. You have not quantified any costs in your proposal whatsoever for construction which will put the public in a blind pool that could be a bottomless pit financially. What will be the operating costs ? You nave not even addressed these important issues. Elected officials have a fiduciary responsibility to the public and need to know these end points. Otherwise they cannot make a decision. This juvenile attitude and approach of just a headline with no substance does not make the grade with serious decision makers.

    to be continued..

    BFP: I prefer to think of individuals not as an enemy but only as having a opposing viewpoint amongst each other. Besides, on other issues our viewpoints could be similar. I also appreciate your gentle reminder as to website hits. Therefore, I am deducting 6000 hits from the 211,000 Caribbean Splash received on its website. Please note, GH web only had a YES button and it has to be a even playing field.

  36. BFP Cliverton Not Logged In

    Dear Anonymous Waterpark Supporter from The Northeastern United States…

    The waterpark guy Matthew Kerins IS the enemy of everything that is good about Barbados.

    He tried to bribe his way – sorry, “consult” his way into using our precious land resources for a song and we stopped him.

    Oh yes… he is stopped. It would be political suicide for any politician to support the project any longer.

    And IF the construction starts there will be grandmothers staging sit-ins on the roadway for the CNN cameras. Trust me on that one!

    Your philosophy of money as the most worthy motivation for doing anything with the Graeme Hall National Park is not shared by the majority of Bajans.

    The National Park will take some effort but it will be worth it.

    The water park at Graeme Hall is dead.

  37. BFP Cliverton Not Logged In

    And by the way, anonymous

    Countries don’t build National Parks to make money or even to have them self-supporting.

    Countries build National Parks for reasons that are as foreign to you as the Bajan people are.

  38. Wishing in Vain

    Well said Cliverton very well said.
    ps
    When is that court hearing set for to change the covenants on that property at Dover we really ought to protest that change of use?

  39. peugeot

    i am really amazed at yall that yall would even think of keeping the graeme hall swamp and nature sanctuary .. wat a nasty place a few stupid birds that all want killing and a nasty swamp with a lot of stinking fish that cant be eaten ….. we cant live in swamps or even eat wats in them it has to go we need that precious land for housing

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    BFP comments…

    Yall? Yall?

    Hello American! What’s with using the “we” like you are from ’round here?

  40. peugeot

    hey bfp i was born in and i live in barbados

  41. peugeot

    cliverton the water is not dead it is still in the pipeline u r just a narrow minded thinker ..for the record i dont really like the water park idiea either ,,i think the swamp should go and that land be used for housing or a hotel or something meanfull not a nasty swamp anymore it has to go

  42. peugeot

    water park **

  43. Waterboy

    Waterboy
    August 3rd, 2007 at 12:50 am
    Anonymous, information just coming to hand, from more than one very reliable source, indicates that Matthew Kerins accompanied by Hallam Nicholls attended a meeting with Ocean Park management.

    Tell us, is or was Hallam Nicholls a “consultant” for Kerins and the Waterpark?
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    Anonymous, are you avoiding answering this question?

    Hallam Nicholls accompanied and sat in on a meeting with Kerins at Ocean Park.

    Tell us, is or was Hallam Nicholls a “consultant” for Kerins and the Waterpark?

    What was he doing at the meeting with Kerins at Ocean Park?

    We await your response.

  44. Wishing in Vain

    Nicholls is the man to get things done with Owing providing the rubber stamp.
    He is friendly with all parties ie Owing, Ralph Johnson and Matthew Kerins so he must be working out some netrual ground for all parties especially after Owing collected from him but cannot deliver his permissions for the erection of a waterpark they must be trying to get Johnson to include him in his plan for his waterpark as he has a plan to do one as well.

  45. Tudor

    Larry stated in another post that his nephew Matthew Kerins did not know Hallam Nicholls. So this information about Nicholls & Kerins at a meeting with OP must be incorrect.

  46. Anonymous

    I am talking about the macro economics of the nat’l park idea only. You can hem and haw all you want but there is absolutely no Financial information whatsoever given out by anybody. Do you really think the decision makers are that stupid !! The Proof is in the Pudding !! Where’s the Pudding, there ain’t no pudding, IT GONE !

    May I ask what is Mr. Allard’s plans for his coveted 10 acres of land directly adjacent to the bird park. Is it for development ? If it is not for development than why not include that land in his proposal to the government. By coincidence of course that acreage is the best piece of property at his business while the rest is swamp. If he does not put a stipulation stating his acreage will never be developed than it is all a charade that does not pass the smell test. In one magic won he gets rid of his financial hemorraging and chains us to it. His land now has a Bird Sanctuatry as a addendum to his property at our expense of absorbing his financial bleeding. Oh and by the way you also have to give away a couple of hundred acres of priceless land but I can keep mine. Really !!! Gee Thanks Alot !!! God forbid if he plans on loading debt onto our backs to boot !!

  47. Waterboy

    Waterboy
    August 3rd, 2007 at 11:16 am
    Waterboy
    August 3rd, 2007 at 12:50 am
    Anonymous, information just coming to hand, from more than one very reliable source, indicates that Matthew Kerins accompanied by Hallam Nicholls attended a meeting with Ocean Park management.

    Tell us, is or was Hallam Nicholls a “consultant” for Kerins and the Waterpark?
    —————————————————————-
    Anonymous, are you avoiding answering this question?

    Hallam Nicholls accompanied and sat in on a meeting with Kerins at Ocean Park.

    Tell us, is or was Hallam Nicholls a “consultant” for Kerins and the Waterpark?

    What was he doing at the meeting with Kerins at Ocean Park?

    We await your response.
    __________________________________

    Come on Anonymous, we await your response to the above.

    Give us your opinion ” about the macro economics of the water park idea ” and Hallam Nicholls role in it.

  48. BFP- Do we really have to put up with “Anonymous” Kerins’ endless futile ravings?

    Hopefully you are correct in thinking that the more rubbish he spews out the more he will alienate the few supporters Caribbean Watersplash may have ever had.

    The only part of Graeme Hall he can rightly be associated with is the Sewage Plant which is the proper place for all the crap he talks.

  49. BFP

    Hi Greengage,

    Don’t worry about anonymous. Sit back and take a look at the big picture…

    The more he talks the clearer it is who he is and what he wants.

    The latest strategy is to attack the intentions of Peter Allard whose only mistake was to not realise how crooked the government was before he gave millions to Barbados.

    What is really at issue are two opposing views about what should be done with the land on this island.

    The government’s view is that every available piece of land should be paved over or built upon with the profits going to the usual suspects.

    The people’s view is that we must protect and maintain natural areas of beauty not only to support our tourist industry, but also as a national treasure for us all.

    Condos vs. parks

    There really aren’t any jobs or money for the country in either choice – with the exception of the long term negative impact on tourism if we pave over all the natural beauty.

  50. Anonymous

    BFP: You said we were losing tourism to Dubai, right. One of there big draws is there water park. Look it up on the net.

    Waterboy: Go to back blogs & you will find your answer. Unfortunately you will be disappointed. I will gladly answer again if you can tell me who are the members of this secretive committee called the Friends of Graeme Hall. In my entire life I have never seen a committee who did not list their names. Why, are they that ashamed or cowardly ?

    You will get no traction by constantly skirting important questions that need to be addressed. Spinning your wheels will get you nowhere.You are in a dreamland so get out from under the ether and face reality. Your plan was D.O.A. from the beginning and now fortunately for the public it is R.I.P. Fortunately, the horse is dead so he will not feel all your flogging. Thank God we have great public spaces that bring 1.6-1.8 million visitors to us each year. It is called beaches, Beaches & BEACHES. Are’nt we lucky.

  51. BFP Cliverton Not Logged In

    Hey Matthew…

    Kiss goodbye to your 2 million dollars “consulting fees”. But don’t be upset, you’re not the first foreigner who has been shaken down by the experts!

  52. Waterboy

    Anonymous
    August 3rd, 2007 at 7:03 pm

    Waterboy: Go to back blogs & you will find your answer. Unfortunately you will be disappointed. I will gladly answer again if you can tell me who are the members of this secretive committee called the Friends of Graeme Hall. In my entire life I have never seen a committee who did not list their names. Why, are they that ashamed or cowardly ?
    ————————————————————–
    Anonymous is this what you are referring to as your answer?

    lawrence loughlin
    May 25th, 2007 at 2:40 am
    I guess it is much sooner than I thought
    since Mathew just called me again. He stated to me which I shall parrot to you. ” Mr. Nichols has never attended any of his meetings nor does he have any business interest or involment with said person “. This is a definitive statement. Have a enjoyable weekend.
    https://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/cruise-company-president-the-caribbean-where-one-island-is-pretty-much-like-another/

    Well we now know that this is a lie because Kerins accompanied by Hallam Nicholls did attend a meeting at Ocean Park. Are you denying this?

    Friends of Graeme Hall will need to respond as to who their committe members are. What is for certain is that they have over 6000 citizens who have signed a petition supporting the National Park Initiative. What does Kerins have. The support of Hallam Nicholls?

  53. Anonymous

    Was that your group of peple going over the land off ABC highway 6 weeks ago. They certainly did’nt look like farmers. Things SWEET and keep on flogging that dead horse !!

  54. Anonymous

    stay tuned

  55. Wishing in Vain

    When I set about to ask him point blank if it was not Nicholls that met with and was acting as his facilitator he responded with the nonsense above which is utter crap, but I am gald to see that it is out in the open now and it clearly shows if you have a corruption plan you need Nicholls and Owing on the program, they are two peas in a pod.

  56. Tudor

    With Govt planning to push thru a change of use for the agricultural land at Graeme Hall in Parliment very soon, its not surprising to learn that people were inspecting the site; most likey counting the money to be made!

  57. Anonymous

    The same old prose from a secretive member of The Graeme Hall Ridge gang better know as the The Secretive Friends of Graeme Hall Committee. I guess I would NOT want my name published if I was trying to bilk the general populace out of 100’s of millions of dollars !! Fortunately better heads have prevailed and you ain’t getting a tuppence from us. Sorreeeee!!!

  58. Waterboy

    Tudor, maybe it was Kerins and Hallam Nicholls after they had their meeting with Ocean Park management. Kerins must be pretty upset that even with the support of Hallam Nicholls and after spending 2 million, Ocean Park are the ones likely to get permission for a Water Park. Albeit smaller but most importantly on their own private land.

    Sorreeeee!!! Kerins, no water park on land that belongs to the taxpayers of Barbados.

  59. Anonymous

    You will love CS water park waterboy. Soon come !! Stay tuned but look on the positive side. The secret GH ridge gang whick includes yourself will have freezers brimming with horse meat. Yummy Yummy !!

  60. What is this rubbish Kerins/Anonymous is talking about Friends of Graeme Hall committee being secret?

    We all know that Peter Simmons who lives on Tino Terrace and overlooks the proposed site of Caribbean Splash, is the chairman of Friends of Graeme Hall.

    He has come forward openly several times on this blog with valuable submissions.

    I also recall that Friends of Graeme Hall produced a brochure setting out the rationale for Graeme Hall National Park and I think it was here that all members of the committee, four or five I believe, were named. They included two names of those closely associated with the Nature Sanctuary. No doubt one of our participants has a copy and can cite the other names.

    So stop this “secretive” rubbish, Kerins. Unlike you the Friends of Graeme Hall have always been open and aboveboard.

  61. Anonymous

    Only the committee was stated with no names !! For obvious reasons.

  62. Ace

    I’ve been told by a politician that gov’t. was discussing the idea of changing the land use policy re the agric. lands above GH. He didn’t know, or wouldn’t say what was being envisaged for the area. Frankly, I don’t think it is suitable for a hotel or condos for wealthy foreigners. The nature sanctuary idea is the best for the area.

  63. Tudor

    Ace, I have seen a copy of the resolution which will be debated in Parliment. Unless we act now, this change like the previous changes to the Constitution will be pushed thru before the public is aware that it is happening.

  64. Anonymous

    VIVA LA WATER PARK !!

  65. Thistle

    VIVA LA IDIOTA!!

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