Last Sunday we told you how Adrian Loveridge had sent a letter to the Editor of the Barbados Advocate about the truth behind the origin of the Intimate Hotels group – and the Barbados Advocate refused to publish his letter. (See Why Won’t Our Barbados Newspapers Print The Truth?)
Today The Nation News printed Adrian’s letter and it looks like it was unedited. (See The Nation News: The Truth Behind Intimate Hotels)
Good Doggy, Nation News!
If we could only rely upon The Nation News to print the truth in more substantive matters…
Barbados Free Press 
Well its always good to see Adrian putting his spin on things. Question to be answered . Was the “Intimate Hotels” he speaks about May Hinds starting, the same as the SHBI model, or was that an underfunded Caribbean model?
Adrian has a right to be a bit miffed over the issue as we all recall the Payne he went through, but I am not sure he is 100% right on this one. Adrian has been well publicised on his support of the forming of the Small Hotels group and it is unfortunate that impediments were invented to exclude him from the grouping.
May Hinds to her credit is a giant in Caribbean Tourism and my intent is not to discredit her excellent work but to simply get facts correct.
??
TRUTH: Agreement with fact or reality.
SPIN: ‘a sometimes pejorative term signifying a heavily biased portrayal in one’s own favour of an event or situation’.
The techniques of ‘spin’ include:
Selectively presenting facts and quotes that support one’s position (cherry picking).
Non-denial denial.
Phrasing in a way that assumes unproven truths.
Europemisms to disguise or promote one’s agenda.
Ambiguity.
Rejecting the validity of hypotheticals.
etc,etc, etc.
Truth or spin Mr/Ms ??
I felt it was important that the person that actually conceptulised the idea, got the credit, not someone that entered the tourism industry for the first time in the same year that the Intimate Hotels brochure was launched.
I am not sure you have addressed the issue, and personally I think spin is quite appropriate.
RESULTANTLY?
Whatever the truth may be about the origins of Intimate Hotels, fast ball or googly, I have learned that a word I would have challenged in Scrabble actually exists in one dictionary, even though it must be exceedingly rarely used.
Common folk like me would use “As a result”, but I can appreciate creative word usage when actually coming out with a factual story.
??
What IS the issue you are raising?
I am from now on going to to call you INNUENDO.
You question what I say, as if my comments are not factual but don’t actually clarify which ones you think are incorrect.
‘simply get facts correct’
Which ones are not?
Adrian forget about the clown, the facts must be hurting and hurting badly hence its groaning.
You keep your good work up.
Ever heard from Noless Lynch where he got those millions from to buy that plantation house ?
Thought he may have confided in you and told you it was pay back from the two payments made to Carnival for the US $ 5 million and US $ 15 million that they slipped back hand to him.
Any further news on the scam at the board of tourism in London featuring Petra Roach ?
RESULTANTLY is right up there with BURGLARISED and ORIENTATED.
The word, in case you never went to school
is BURGLE.
I burgle your house, you burgle, he or she burgles.
No-one ever burglarised a house(except in USA)
The word is ORIENTED…not orientated(except in America!)
Only the Americans, those officially in charge of destroying the English language,
can come up with words like DE-PLANE for disembarking a Boeing.
or using SOMEWHAT(of an idiot?)
where they should really be using SOMETHING of an idiot,definAtely…oops sorry that should be definItely.
– stuff like that.
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Then of course we have the Bajan problems.
Announcing the total and absolute death of WHERE, which has now been entirely replaced by WHUH-PART,
which has now been replaced by ‘PART.
And so we can come up with quaint island questions like… Whuh-part de body did?
which in real English translates to Where was the person?
Whuh-part? Maaaan he did in de pan-cyart!
(he was in the wheelbarrow)
Dear oh DEAR!
Thanks Wishing in Vain..
No idea what the mortgage would be on that beautiful planation house and the monthly repayments!
I expect many of the St. Michael South constituents are green with envy.
I sure am!
We never did get to hear what the Miami based agency (Landry and Kling) were paid in commissions for chartering the Carnival Destiny?
And any other fees for arranging the ‘guarantee’ of 1.2 million cruise ship passengers over three years.
Perhaps it will show up in their annual audited accounts?
I wonder if the Minister or BTA has applied for a refund?
Adrian, The issue since your DLP blinkers seem to be on is simply are you saying the SHBI is the same project conceptualised by May Hinds for the Caribbean Small Hotels.
Your spin is always to promote your love for DLP and absolute hate for BLP .. I perhaps under stand the latter re the Payne you have suffered.. but really do try reading what I have written instead of what you think I have written.
I state again I am a great admirer of May Hinds, and she has do a lot for tourism not only in Barbados but throughoutthe Caribbean, and personally I think she should be better recognised for what she has done……
Can you expand on the Treasures package you were speaking about and how it ties in to the issue of SHBI…..??
That should be and she has done a lot…
sorry for typo
Okay, okay. Enough is enough on this “plantation house”. No matter what anyone thinks about Lynch, the fact is that his house is NOT a plantation house. When he purchased it, it had been on the market for about 2 years, during which the asking price came down substantially. My guess is that it changed hands at about $650,000 – hardly different from most houses spread about the heights and the terraces, and probably a lot cheaper. The house was a modest dwelling, built about 10-15 years ago, and it is in a very nice location overlooking the Scotland District. Following the purchase, the house was extensively re-furbished, but is no more “grand” than hundred of houses you see all over the island. So knock Lynch if you want, but get off this “plantation house” crap, because whoever uses it is damaging their own credibility.
Not that I spring to his defence or nuthin
but next time I’m up G.Farm way, I’m going to take a photo of the Lynch BUNGALOW for you guys!
Believe me, fellas, it IS a bungalow(on about 2-3 acres,
but that hardly ‘a plantation makes’.
Remember Johnny my boy’s calypso I want A plantation ? well I want one too, Peltdown Man you are so well educated as to the cost and when bought etc are you indeed the lawlesss, wreckless, careless, Noless Lynch under cover ?
It is totally open to discussion this the issue of Lynch’s sudden change of financial status and surprisingly sudden claim to a healthy bank account, had he defended and explained how he amassed his wealth to David Ellis these doubts would no longer exist but by having him storm out of the studio like a spoilt child blabbering that if he was a white man none of these questions would have been asked of him is absolute crap, his attempt to use race to justify his stealing is a sick part of his world.
about 2-3 acres I wonder how much an acre is going for nowadays complete with refurbished house and all, I am sure they are many St. Michael South constituents that would be happy to own even two or three thousand sq ft to have a roof over their heads, maybe that is Lynch’s plan to buy the plantation and allow chattel houses to be erected on these lands free of cost as his donation to give back to the people a small part of what he has stolen from the masses.
Very noble and highly commended Lynch, when will the program begin ?
Not to mention it will get your friend Payne and yourself plenty of votes, nothing wrong with that program.
Get a move on with it idiot.
?? a.k.a. Innuendo
Just for the record, I have NEVER been a member of a political party in my entire life.
I agree with your point about May Hinds.
Paul Foster had to wait 50 years, but Dennis Tull gets a Lifetime’s Achievement Award after 14 years in the industry.
The Treasures packages were developed to add value to guest stays. They included components like car rental, Mount Gay Visitor Centre, National Trust sites, dining experiences (dinner at Carambola), Tiami cruise, Atlantis Submarines etc.
We negotiated with the suppliers and agreed a net non-commissionable rate which was placed into an accommodation package.
Guests (especially first time ones) saved money by booking the packages as they received a lot of the experiences they would have tried, but at an overall lower cost.
WIV
As usual, you don’t let your submissions get clouded by the facts. I was looking for a house at about the time this property was on the market, and I even looked at it myself. Probably one of many who did so, and who now regret not buying it . Secondly, I could be a realtor, or a frequent visitor to the Gregg Farm area, or work for a construction company, or any number of people who know the history of that house. As for the 2-3 acres, that is not unusual, either. Ask anyone with property at Edgehill, St Thomas. This is usually the minimum size of a lot allowed for agricultural land, with one dwelling. Knock Lynch all you like WIV, I hold no brief for him (oh! I could be a lawyer, too!), but get off the plantation house stuff, unless you want to continue to look really foolish.
By the way WIV, it’s spelt “reckless”.
Why are you really concerned that the plantation house image is damaging to his popularity as politician if this is the case I would not worry too much about it as he single handlely done more damage to that with his own egotistic style and pompus ways than I can do to him with a reference to his plantation home.
2 or 3 acres huh hah !!!
Wreck like a ship wreck.
Why are you really concerned that the plantation house image is damaging to his popularity as politician if this is the case I would not worry too much about it as he single handlely done more damage to that with his own egotistic style and pompus ways than I can do to him with a reference to his plantation home.
Adrian aka Mr Fiction,
Are you sure Mr Tull has only been in Tourisn 14 years or is this another case of fiction.
Tull is more hot air than anything else remember him from his days of association with the minibuses.
There are many more deserving of a long service award than Tull but guess that is what political patonage gets for you.
?? a.k.a. innuendo
You are accusing me of exactly what you are doing.
Read CAREFULLY!
Denis Tull acquired Golden Sands In 1988. He was a policeman before, I believe.
He was given a Tourism Lifetime Achievement Award in 2002.
2002 less 1988 = 14.
Fact or fiction, Mr Innuendo?
Mr Fiction I will check that and get back to you. You claim no membership of political party yet you boast having authored their tourism policy for your late friend Mr Morgan…. Maybe not a paid member but guilty by association.
?? a.k.a. Mr Innuendo
Absolutely GUILTY then by both parties.
Don’t forget I chaired a Government (current) Small Hotels Committee and if its guilty by association then I had better declare that Sir Harold St. John was a frequent visitor to both our home and hotel.
We used to talk for hours about tourism.
I don’t suppose you understand the concept of independent thinkers?
Allya- get off Mr Loveridge back, please.
We all agree he would better a better Min of Tourism than Upstart Lynch, but that does not make him a supporter of DLP just so.
He has rightly pointed out Lynch’s shortcomings, and demonstrated his own integrity. He has paid his dues serving in the tourism sector.
I feel it wrong to think he is promoting a political agenda. He is genuinely concerned about our island’s tourism destiny.
Unable to grasp where independant thinker comes into this… you wrote policy…..how do you seperate you involvement? think about it..
We all know that people of different political opinions are friends……. and sometimes its comical how supporters fight while the politicians share an afternoon cocktail.
Deb,
I so not agree.
Dear ??-
Your submission understood despite typo.
sorry about typo…. multi taking does not always work
Did it again multi tasking ….sorry
Does multi-tasking mean that you’re doing something with your other hand?
Peltdown man you seem to be having a meltdown!
Over Estimation…
Some ‘bungalow’ and on 2 or 3 acres.
Now tell me again what would a house (sorry ‘bungalow’) like that be worth set in 2 or 3 acres abutting Apes Hill Golf and Country Club with a view to die for?
$650,000!
That values the land ONLY at $5 per square foot.
Wow! West Coast land prices must have fallen dramatically.
Now lets try $10 a square foot!
Ah! $1.29 million and what was the cost of renovations?
Adrian
How much is your hotel worth now compared with what you paid for it? These comparisons are nonsense in this context, because the argument is that Lynch has so much money that he can buy a “plantation house”. Secondly, Lynch’s property does not abutt and abound Apes Hill Golf and Country Club, but it is near, like many other houses in the Gregg Farm/Apes Hill area. I repeat, that the house was empty for at least two years with no buyers, and although I don’t know the final selling price my guess is that is was about $650,000. Now Lynch is being criticized for having the good sense to see its value. You and I both had the chance to buy it, but we didn’t, did we? So get off it man – from what I have seen you have made several very valid points concerning Lynch and tourism. This is not one of them.
I don’t know the final selling price my guess is that is was about $650,000.
This statement alone would reveal to me that you really have no idea of the real selling price so it could be as you state $ 650,000.00 or $ 2 million the real issue here is how in heavens name someone working on a ministers salary could afford to make the payments on a value such as this one is, unless he was stealing or received a gift of a large sum of money from some unknown source, lets not beat around the bush we are dealing with a vagabond who has stolen from us the taxpayers same as Arthur , same as Liz Thompson, same as Glyne Clarke, same as Jerome Walcott, same as Mia Mottley, same as Dale Marshall he has learnt the art from the best in the business and has qualified with a distinction in corruption.
Peltdown Man…
We bought our hotel in 1988, not in the last two years, so please be fair.
And are you really saying Gregg Farm does NOT abut Apes Hill Golf and Country Club?
When were you last there?
What about the paddocks and horses?
And you still havn’t answered the question!
Forget the house (sorry ‘bungalow’) for a minute,
$650,000 for two or three acres?
$5 to $7 a square foot for THAT location!
Why didn’t the Government buy it for the housing bank at that price?
Adrian, you and WIV are now sounding desperate. As I said yesterday to WIV, he is not letting his argument be clouded by the facts. Fact – the land in questions was part of Gregg Farm plantation when it was owned by Mr Eric Weekes. He subdivided off two AGRICULTURAL lots of about 3 acres each, one of which was sold to his son. Fact – his son built a house (all that is allowed on an agricultural lot) and lived in it for several years before his family broke up and the property was put on the market. Fact – the original asking price was $850,000. The property remained on the market for a very long time, and the asking price was reduced to move the property. If it was sold for $600,000 or $800,000, this is not out of line for someone on a minister’s salary to be able to afford, ESPECIALLY if he had sold and profited fom another property, which may or may not be the case. Fact – Gregg Farm plantation is owned by C.O. Williams, who bought it from Mr Weekes’s estate. Part of the golf course is, in fact, on Gregg Farm. Fact – Lynch’s sub-divided lot is close to Turner’s Hall – a good distance from any part of the golf course. Fact- you gentlemen (I use the word advisedly) are trying to link the fact that he owns a well-located property close to a golf course to a theory that he has stolen or grafted millions of dollars to buy a “plantation house”. All I am saying is that it is not a plantation house, rather a re-furbished bungalow, and that it was purchased for a price not out of line with upper-middle income properties, and that the fact that it is an agricultural lot means that it cannot currently be developed further, hence the relatively low land value. Now I don’t know if he is a thief, or even if he is rich and how he became rich if that’s the case. I DO know that you cannot use the matter of his house as a reasonable argument to support your cases. Get off it and find some genuine ammunition.
PM
The PROPERTY was gought for $M1.1
sorry! bought
Zulu you run Peltdown. Reading Peltdown and ?? it seems the final politics of inclusion push is on before the bell rings. Lynch boasts publicly he is rich. Lammie Craigg did the same thing. Lynch lifestyle and possesions including Gregg Farm suggests for once he is not lying. Poor people who he purportedly represents are asking where he obtained so much wealth so quickly. I think that is a reasonable question. He has to answer the question or stand condemmed as shady. He has already shown us he is a compulsive liar. By the way Peltdown and ?? maybe you can get us the answer for another simple question; did Owen get interest on the $750,000 he acknowledged receiving and banking on his personal account?
Zulu
Please explain how a property, initially offered for $850,000, empty for 2 years, ends up being sold for $1.1M. Got the evidence?
Shaka, I was only presenting facts to disprove the statements that Lynch has a plantation house. I did not express an opinion on him or any political issue. ?? and WIV are political yardfowls and I do not expect them to worry about facts. Are you the same?