Attention Barbados Offshore Investors and Transparency International – Corruption Stories Being Hidden By Barbados Media & Government

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Barbados Journalist David Ellis Threatened By Government For Reading Email Questioning Minister’s Assets (photo above)

Barbados Media Concealing Corruption Stories From International Audience

Barbados Has No Laws Against Government Corruption & Conflicts Of Interest

Barbados Media & Journalists Live In Fear Of Government Wrath & Reprisals

A brave Barbadian journalist named David Ellis is being threatened and punished because he dared to read a citizen’s email on the air asking a Government Minister to account for personal wealth that seems out of proportion with the Minister’s annual earnings in Barbados government service.

In the next few days Barbados Free Press will try to find time to comment in detail upon the story of how Brass Tacks radio show journalist David Ellis is being pummeled by government and abandoned by his own Voice of Barbados organisation and the rest of the frightened lapdog Barbados media.

For now, the international investment community and watchdog agencies like Transparency International, Reporters Without Borders and anti-money-laundering agencies in the United States and the U.K. should be aware of the following…

1 – Barbados Minister of Tourism Noel Lynch walked out of the Brass Tacks radio talk show last Sunday (March 25th) when host/journalist asked about his personal wealth. In the days prior to the call-in show, the Minister dictated to the media who would and would not be allowed to speak to him. As a result of an article published here at BFP, the embarrassed Minister and the radio station allowed a tourism pundit to speak on the show. The Minister was caught on air lying about a $15 million dollar government liability and stormed off the show when the issue of his wealth came up. (See our story Barbados Tourism Minister Flees Radio Talk Show Over Question Of Personal Assets And Integrity Legislation)

2 – The Voice of Barbados radio broadcast was immediately pulled off the internet so international audiences could not receive it.

3 – The Barbados media generally does not report stories of political corruption or potential corruption to the Barbados audience and never to the international audience on the internet. One newspaper, The Barbados Advocate, even purges all online stories every few weeks, apparently so the historical record of what government officials said or did will not exist.

4 – Barbados journalists live in fear of government wrath – so much so that it can be said that the Government of Barbados controls the professional media in our country. Since the incident with Minister Lynch, some Barbadian journalists have published opinion pieces essentially admitting that they are fearful of government and the nation’s outrageously one-sided libel laws.

5 – Deputy Prime Minister Mia Mottley called for restrictions and censorship of radio & TV call-in shows and blogs. (See our article Barbados Deputy Prime Minister Says Internet Blogs “Marginalize…Parliament” – Calls For Regulation of Blogs, Call-In Shows On Radio, Television)

6 – Prime Minister Owen Arthur admitted openly in parliament to what amounts to money laundering of “political donations” through his personal bank account – and the Barbados media never said one word about it until after this blog published the details a week later. Even then, Barbados journalists remain too frightened to ask the Prime Minister about the $750,000 dollar cheque he admitted that he deposited into his personal bank account. (See our story Nation News Falls Into Our Trap Over Prime Minister’s Money Laundering)

7 – Barbados Minister Of Public Works Gline Clarke lives on land expropriated by government… and the Barbados media has never said one word about the fact that powerful Government Ministers like Mr. Clarke do not have to declare their assets or explain how it is that, as a Member of the Cabinet that approves the expropriation of privately-owned lands, a Minister of Government comes to live upon a choice building lot that was forceably taken from an owner – using the full power of the Government. Barbados Free Press even published photos of the Minister’s home and Mercedes Benz on expropriated land and not one journalist dared to ask about it.

Investors Beware! Barbados Lapdog Media Puts The Government Ahead Of Public Duty

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The Nation News Ignores The Real Question – Where Did Minister Lynch Get His Millions?

In a full 2-page spread today that can only be described as a total capitulation to government pressure, the Nation News ignores the important issue of Where Did Minister Lynch Get His Millions?

The article is called The Big Question. Should Press Be Allowed To Dig Into Public Figures’ Private Affairs?

Since when is it private when a member of government exhibits far more wealth than is reasonable considering his salary? Minister Lynch dispenses millions upon millions of dollars with no tenders or accountability and the public is not allowed to ask where he got his millions?

That is an interesting position by The Nation News.

Barbados Media Lives In Fear

In the article (copied below), journalist Roy Morris gives some indication of the constraints and fear under which Bajan journalists operate, but former Nation News editor and head lapdog Harold Hoyte rolls over and does “good doggy” tricks in support of Minister Lynch – calling Brass Tacks journalist David Ellis “reckless” for daring to ask the Minister to account for his wealth. Hoyte even calls Minister Lynch “accountable” when he knows that there are no Conflict of Interest, Transparency, Freedom of Information or Accountability laws in Barbados.

Robert Best talks about how journalists become “pariah” if they ask embarrassing questions (editor’s note: Questions like… How is it that you had nothing before being elected and now you are a millionaire? ! ) while former DLP MP Branford Taitt rightly says “… a question about a minister’s financial circumstances is legitimate.”

Retired MP Sir Henry Forde poo-pooed the whole thing – once again ignoring questions of public accountability.

We will now show the setup of The Nation News 2 page spread so you can judge for yourself whether or not the Barbados media is intimidated by the government. Touch the photos to view the full size scans, or read the text from the Nation News website below…

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As Published In The Nation News online…

The big question

by ROY R. MORRIS

YOU MAY NOT AGREE with what he says from time to time, but no fair-minded or reasonable person can claim that Minister of Tourism Noel Lynch is ever afraid to defend any stance he or his party takes.

In fact, more than a few practising journalists can confirm that you don’t have to initiate a conversation with Lynch when he feels strongly about a matter.

He is known to be very proactive in letting you know how he feels.

This is in stark contrast to a number of his colleagues. Note here that identifying this approach as one of Lynch’s personality highlights is intended neither as a criticism nor support of his approach. It is merely aimed at setting the stage for discussion of last weekend’s episode on Starcom Network’s Sunday Brass Tacks programme when Lynch objected to a question sent to the studio by email and read on air by host David Ellis.

The email, which questioned Lynch’s accumulation of assets, was deemed by the minister to be “as disrespectful as you can get”.

The minister ended the programme by walking out of the studio.

Lawyers have since concluded that innuendo contained in the email was sufficient that the minister could possibly successfully sue the station for defamation. The law is clear on the issue of redress where a defamation occurs, and there is therefore no need to consider that here.

However, the critical question is one which dominated discussion all around the country long before defamation entered the picture. It is: Was questioning the minister on the subject out of place in that forum?

Put in a broader context: Is there ever a time when questioning a public figure, on any matter that a journalist may deem to be in the public’s interest, is out of place – even rude?

This is also asked in the context of a growing tendency among public figures to call Press conferences, attend official functions, and state up front that they will only entertain questions of a particular nature; or conversely, will not take questions on a specific subject. This can be viewed as a proactive way of avoiding questions on a controversial matter.

And to widen the discussion further, would it be inappropriate, for example, question the Minister of Finance about a fiscal policy announcement if a journalist made contact with him after a funeral of a constituent?

What if it were a matter about his personal conduct and the opportunity presented itself while he was addressing a major financial subject?

Some years ago when United States President Bill Clinton was in Barbados having major talks with regional leaders, a member of the American Press corps fired a question at him about the then on-going scandal about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. While it raised eyebrows here it was taken as par for the course in the United States for a very simple reason:

The US has long, as a result of numerous rulings by that country’s Supreme Court, created clear definitions of who are public figures and who are private people. The court has made it absolutely clear that people like Clinton and Lynch, in their jurisdiction, would be classified as all-purpose public figures – “persons who occupy persuasive power and influence in the nation or in a community, persons who are usually exposed to constant media attention”.

Such a person is fair game wherever he or she is — laws on defamation notwithstanding.

The Commonwealth approach, however, tends to be much more conservative.

I come down on the American side: Once a question is respectfully framed, and you are cognisant of the circumstances surrounding the reason for a public figure [not just politicians] being there – if the matter is of public interest, the question should be asked. It is up to the public figure to decide if or how he will answer it. And for that he or she too should be respected. My only fault with the Lynch/Ellis affair is that the question was not properly, or perhaps fairly, framed.

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When queries cross the line

HAROLD HOYTE: As a journalist I am relieved that my colleague David Ellis, a man of ability, experience and savvy, had the decency to publicly apologise to his radio guest Minister Noel Lynch.

Some other journalists are wrongly of the view that all politicians are fair game and we have the right to ask anything of any of them at any time, and if they don’t answer, that they should be ridiculed for appearing to avoid the truth.

We have to abide by our own set of high standards of conduct.

The facts are that Mr Lynch went on the programme as Minister of Tourism to explain special outcomes related to Cricket World Cup and his ministry. This is a matter of public interest and he is to be applauded for his accessibility, since not all of his colleagues are inclined to have the same sense of public accountability.

As a guest of Ellis, Lynch had the right to expect reasonable professional courtesies from his host. And this would have included not startling him with a rude question that bore no relation to the issue being discussed, framed in a highly insulting manner.

In my view, the language and the nature of the question crossed the line.

It was out of place to surprise Lynch with a speculative personal question (and one certainly not connected with the World Cup) which raised a matter that may have questioned his integrity, was not relevant to any matter under discussion or to be discussed, and which was not supported by even the flimsiest piece of hard data or information.

Journalists play an important role which shapes public opinion. When we carry out such an important mandate, we must do it with every aspect of responsibility. Since we can impact the good name of people in public life, we cannot be reckless with our words or be barren of accurate information in pursuing our line of questioning or comments.

In real estate, the big phrase is “location, location, location”. In journalism it is “substantiate, substantiate, substantiate”.

By coming out of nowhere to embarrass Lynch with an irrelevant, suggestive and personal question meant that Ellis fell far short of his own heretofore high sense of vocational dignity.

Respect, Mr Ellis, is a two-way street.

If journalists want respect they must be prepared to warrant it through professional conduct.

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Branford Taitt: There is a boundary

Former Democratic Labour Party MP Branford Taitt, who has attracted much controversy during his years in the House of Assembly, believes that “a legitimate question can be unfair when asked in certain circumstances”.

“There is a boundary within which a public figure has a personal soul which must not be trammelled by the Press,” Taitt said, giving as an example a reporter encroaching on a personal event such as a funeral.

“Had I been Ellis, I would have asked the question, but I would have phrased it differently. And had I been Lynch I would also have responded differently, particularly because when you go on a radio call-in programme you have to be prepared for anything, any type of question . . . but on the face of it a question about a minister’s financial circumstances is legitimate.”

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Sir Henry Forde: Do not take pot shots

Another retired veteran MP, and respected attorney-at-law, Sir Henry Forde, believes he would have handled the question differently, but noted that Lynch’s response might have been a reflection of his experience.

Sir Henry recalled an incident soon after he was first elected to the House when he was questioned about rumours that he was born in the almshouse.

“My answer . . . was, as my mother said, if you were born in the almshouse and you have got to this stage, you know how many mothers would be proud of you? I went on to say, ‘Well anyhow, for the record, I was born at a home in Water Street . . . and I did not even have the privilege of going to the almshouse here there was public care.”

Sir Henry added on the Lynch episode: “If I was there I probably would not have walked out . . . but my way of dealing with that would have been to say, Mr Ellis, the question is a very interesting one but it comes from a person with a warped mind . . . .

“Because you are a public figure you are always there for questions, but it depends on the nature of the questions and how the questions are framed . . . . Although there has been a swing toward allowing people to go after public figures . . . the courts have made it absolutely clear that freedom of speech does not mean that you can just take pot shots at people . . . .

“[Some] people thought the question was offensive . . . . A lot of people have not interpreted it as a complimentary question . . . . Noel got angry and walked out . . . . Different people would have dealt with it differently.”

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Is it a need-to-know basis?

ROBERT BEST: Journalists in our part of the world have to choose our ground carefully when putting questions to people in public life. For a start, the wider public itself, even when talking about the right to know, does not always agree about what it should know.

Because of this tendency, we will find that what in some democratic countries will come over as merely routine questions, will strike many Barbadians as being in bad taste, even if not grounds for a lawsuit.

It is hard to imagine, for example, that a journalist in Barbados daring to question a public figure about his sex life would find favour with his countrymen even when such questions might be making the rounds on the cocktail circuit. It is just not done here, but is accepted in other jurisdictions to the extent that certain revelations can cause resignations by those in high office.

At the same time, the politicians, aware of how the public thinks on certain matters, do not rush to provide certain information on matters which would be regarded as “of public interest” in other countries.

It can reach the point where because of political association or party preference, a journalist can find he or she is treated like a pariah because of a tendency “to be always asking embarrassing questions”.

We do not stop to think why the question might appear to be embarrassing. In order to survive as journalists, many in the profession soon get the message and become conduits for public relations exercises and stop right there.

… read the article online at The Nation News (link here)

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89 responses to “Attention Barbados Offshore Investors and Transparency International – Corruption Stories Being Hidden By Barbados Media & Government

  1. Jerome Hinds

    To BFP and my fellow bloggers,

    After reading the reaction of persons on pages 12 & 13 in the Weekend Nation of 2007 – 03 – 30 please read the article on the link below and get a deeper appreciation of the challenges invovled in the establishment of Integrity Legislation.

    We must remember also, most of these politicians went to universities together and they network well….!!!!

    http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/19990628/cleisure/c5.html

  2. Jerome Hinds

    BFP,

    Only your money laundering article can SAVE the day…..!!

    Please release it….!!

    This SHIFTING around in the crease we are witnessing on this Lynch ISSUE is a subtle attempt to NEGATE the impact of your story…!!

    Can BFP publish their information and FORCE the Nation News to come back to earth…??

    Then BFP would not have to comment……

    The Nation News Ignores The Real Question – Where Did Minister Lynch Get His Millions?

  3. John

    “Quick Henry, the Flit”

    These were the words used in an ad campaign for Flit. They were coined by one Dr. Seuss of Cat in the Hat and Green Eggs and Ham fame.

    His words seem very applicable today.

    http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dsads/index.shtml

  4. akabozik

    Make ’em sweat BFP!

    What was in that trash you took from the dumps? Who has an account at the Scotia Bank? Which Scotia Bank?

    OOOOOOOHHHHHHH!

    Them govment ministers be bangin their heads off the walls right now!

  5. pogo

    Much hoopla and ado fussin’ and meowlin’ with none of the news dealing with the real story.

    If a solid journalist- and there are few better day in and day out for our country than Mr. Ellis- gets pummelled for asking a question that is on everyone’s minds then how the little people with no voice ever get an answer?

    So out with it, Owen Arthur and cabinet ministers. You got way way more now than when you was elected. Where did it come from?

    We just want to know since we elected you and now you want us to vote for you again.

    If you have an explanation let’s hear it but don’t treat us like stupids who cannot see what is going on. Don’t act spoiled brat and stomp out. Just answer.

  6. Jupiter

    Agree with you dey Pogo.

    BFP

    Yuh mek muh proud wid dat last post.

    I agree with allyuh say.

    I know dat is de appetiser and de main course to come soon.

    Jerome boy dis gwine be sweeter dan yuh satday pudding and souse.

  7. Jane

    National Integrity Systems
    Transparency International
    Questionnaires
    Caribbean Composite Study 2004

    Barbados section starts on page 76

    http://ww1.transparency.org/activities/nat_integ_systems/dnld/carib_compos_q.pdf

  8. Warrior

    #
    Warrior
    March 30th, 2007 at 9:45 pm

    A PUBLIC FIGURE HAS NO PERSONAL LIFE. If you choose to enter into the public domain, then your life comes under a microscope.

    Have these “pieca pop-stick poppets” no common sense at all. If they want to utterly destroy this country, they can try but know that the kid gloves are off and they are under public scrutiny – close public scrutiny – now more than ever. Owen – get ready for the rapture, cause heaven and earth has just moved, and that ain’t the Kensington Oval.

    I wonder if the PM getting any of those early morning like between 2:00am and 6:00 am calls that he is so famous for delivering. I wonder how it feels now that he is on the receiving end.

  9. Warrior

    Sorry all I posted this in another totally irrelevant section so I just moved it over here. Again my apologies.

  10. reality check

    Harold Hoyte starts with the assumption that these are all honourable men and we shouldn’t cross the line and ask tough questons that impugn their character.

    A society that does not demand the highest level of integrity and accountability from its elected officials and instead expects theft of public monies
    and abuse of power deserves the worst.

    Theft of the Public Trust and Treasury is what Barbados has been getting for years. Harold is part of the problem and not the solution.

  11. Adrian Loveridge

    There were so many blatant untruths in the 25th March programme uttered by Noel Lynch, it surely must either cast doubt on his ability and knowledge of the tourism industry or whether he was deliberately misleading the public.

    1) No Loan (categorically) to charter Carnival Destiny.

    2) Only 500 luxury villa rooms.

    3) 90,000 visitors for CWC Final week.

    4) 75,000 cruise ship passengers.

    5) ‘Adrian, you did not mention that the statistics quoted were for 2004’ (which I did).

    Every person with a blink of an understanding of our tourism industry knows these statements to be absolutely false.
    Every single fact I quoted can be verified with the Barbados Statistical Service, CTO or BTA.

    I must assume that Minister has the same accessibility.

    Now, whether we choose to believe the Minister on other matters, that has to be a judgement call.

  12. Cartel buster

    Click on that site a couple of posts ago from Kathy.

    If true page 76 onwards shows there is a large void when it comes to disclosure by politicians, compared to other countries.

    Let’s keep our country clean.

  13. Jane

    If we understand clearly where our problems and weaknesses lie then we will know how to arrive at a solution.

  14. Cartel buster

    By the way, suppression of freedom of speech is exemplified by the threats of punishment and libel.

    As the wave continues to build, so will the freedom of speech.

    Let freedom reign!

  15. Economix

    Over the last twelve years, the cost of living (as evidenced by supermarket prices) has steadily risen and risen.
    It continues to spiral ever-upward!
    On several occasions, I have characterized it as “an economic Black Hole”.

    The public (and the public purse) have been plundered to make a select few rich.
    Guess who? – no prizes.

    Why do I spend as little as possible, when here in Barbados?
    Because I know I’m paying Top Dollar for mid-dollar ‘value’ !
    i.e. Grade A prices paid, for Grade B goods and Grade C services!

    My purse strings magically loosen, when I’m abroad,
    but the moment I hit back on Grantley Adams tarmac, they equally-magically snap shut!

  16. Cartel buster

    Oh Jane, so sorry.

  17. Cartel buster

    Yes economix, though I don’t agree with you on that one, I don’t fault you for saving. But does that solve the foreign exchange leakage problems?

  18. C-thruGlass.

    Looking forward to a vastly-different Transparency Int’l. perceived corruption index, when TI compiles their 2007 rankings.

    For too long Barbados has curiously held a position around mid-20s in those rankings…HOW I don’t know! (24 on the 2006 list!)
    We must be Masters at Bull-Shirting!!

    But all that has to change, and I ‘fear’ that this website has done a lot.
    Want to see Barbados somewhere in the ’07 rankings, around position 60.

    Trinidad is currently at position 79, so that’ll give you an idea where we should stand… a bit less that that, let’s say in the 50-60 range.
    okay..45, my final offer.

    What the heck are we doing, soaring with Eagles,
    up at TWENTY FOUR ???

  19. Cartel buster

    It’s not where you are, but where you’re going. There’s time to make this right, but we have to act now!

  20. Jerome Hinds

    I remind readers again about this systematic suppression of the press in BARBADOS under this BLP government…….the ZIMBABWE we HEAR and SEE today did not GET there overnight….!!

    Some Commonality between the 2 countries…..???

    1. Black led countries whose LEADERSHIP
    believes POWER must be retained by all cost…!!

    2. A systematic WEAKENING of the opposition
    parties….a.k.a Politricks of Inclusion….!!!

    3. Systematic CONTROLLING of the tax payer
    funded MEDIA…!!

    4. A LEADER who CALLS and intimidates private
    and public citizens…..in the PUBLIC and
    PRIVATE domain…!!

    5. Both LEADERS wish to REMAIN in POWER
    until DEATH do US….PART….!!

    ( Remember it is ” Everyone WANTS to get to HEAVEN….BUT……no one WANTS to DIE )

    ( Remember they see themselves so POWERFUL…that they will MOVE..HEAVEN & EARTH)

    5. One of these LEADERS cannot wait to install a
    REPUBLIC…..to FULLY complete the
    SUPPRESSION…!!!

    Barbadians are WE prepared to put a stop to these WARNING signs….?

    Citizens you have the POWER to make a CHANGE….!

  21. Voter

    looks more and more like they’ll be out next time
    when are elections?
    Like the paralels with Zimbabwe,Jerome
    I think you’re spot on! although Bajans en want to hear that

  22. hard ears

    I tell wunna all aready dat wunna gine bring wunnaselves in real trouble but ya wun hear

  23. Jerome Hinds

    Voter
    March 30th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
    looks more and more like they’ll be out next time
    when are elections?
    Like the paralels with Zimbabwe,Jerome
    I think you’re spot on! although Bajans en want to hear that
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    Voter,

    I agree with you. We have to SAVE the SOUL of OUR fair land….!!

    WE saw for the past 13 years where the BLP is taking us…it is time EXERCISE our DEMOCRATIC right and let the DEMS…bring us back on COURSE….!!!

    And like Black Stalin sang years ago….” If the NEW set of MANAGERS we bring in NOT…..WORKING…….then FIRE them too….!!

    The VOTER must always be RIGHT…!!!

  24. Hants

    Since Barbadians pay taxes and these taxes are used to pay Government Ministers,and these Ministers direct the spending of the Taxpayer’s money, do we not have a right to know the personal assets of the people who can influence the spending of our money.

    All Politicians should declare their assets.

    Since Dr.Duguid comes on this board and I consider him to be reasonable person, how about the good Doc leading the way and state his opinion on the declaration of assets and transparency by politicians.

    Any other politicians who come on this blog should do the same.

    Minister Lynch missed a great opportunity to shut up the rumormongers. All he had to do was tell David Ellis that he supports Integrity Legislation and also that he would issue a declaration of his assets when it was a requirement for all politicians in Barbados.

    Minister Lynch should take lessons in anger management.

    Don’t get angry,get even.

  25. bush tea

    In the final analysis, citizens get exactly what they deserve. I recall almost 100% support by Americans for George Bush in the early days of Iraq – I don’t have any time for their belly-aching now.
    Similarly, it is an open secret that Bajan politicians see as their main objective to enrich themselves while in office. Most of us cannot cast the first stone because we are different only for lack of opportunity. If we are dishonest as clerks or managers in the private sector or as a carpenter working for a householder- how do we condemn the Lynches and Clarkes just because they have greener and more public grazings? One sometimes get the impression that what some commentators would like is their own “Operation Free (cash) Flow”

    The only answer is in Integrity legislation – but not just for Politicians – for all persons who are placed in positions of public trust.
    Congrats BFP – you are a voice in the wilderness.

  26. No - Name

    I SAY BOYCOTT THE NATION LIKE WE HAVE BOYCOTTED THE ADVOCATE!!

    And maybe we should boycott VOB and have BFP set up an internet radio where we can really freely express our views and ask any question we wish!

    Harold and Ellis are both loyal BLP supporters. I do not trust either of them when it comes to the BLP.

    If we can’t depend on the press for the truth why should we support them? Both the Nation and the Advocate protect BLP Politicians. Harold knows that his staff complained Vehemently about angry calls from Arthur.

    Fellow bloggers do not underestimate the impact that we have. The BLP does not like free speech. Owen said that people were talking foolishness of the call in programmes and Mia, if she had her way would ban them all.

    When the information on the money laundering comes out we should bombard all Permanent Secretaries, heads of departments, politicians, priests ……everybody in Government with emails on the article. Care must be taken to structure the email in such a way that legal action cannot be taken against the sender.

  27. Jerome Hinds

    David Ellis

    March 22nd, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    StarCom Network thanks you for the promotion of Brass Tacks Sunday.
    Hope that you will all send us your e-mails and your comments so that we can have a meaningful exercise.

    You can also rest assured that Mr. Loveridge will be on the programme from start to finish if he so desires.

    The Minister of Tourism was told of this position from the time we raised the subject with him.

    Thanks again guys and best wishes to all.
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    No – Name, I along with a number of BFP readers supported David Ellis with the posting attributed to him above.

    Unfortunately, many took what he wrote above to MEAN that Lynch and Loveridge would SIT together in the SAME…..STUDIO……!

    In REALITY…..on the day of the programme they were SITTING in the SAME building but NOT the same ROOM…..!!

    So the TRUTH be told….David Ellis and VOB caved in to LYNCH and the BLP demands….!!

    When we read the pages of the Weekend Nation of 2007 – 03 – 30 , including the Editorial, that commented on this ISSUE….WE cannot help but recalling that ” The old people said….If yuh START wrong yuh gine END wrong ”

    David Ellis and VOB probably NEVER heard of or FORGOT that saying….!!

    On the contrary, No – Name, you may be CORRECT when you state….” Harold and Ellis are both loyal BLP supporters. I do not trust either of them when it comes to the BLP.”

    Yes, No – Name , this is SOMETIMES life in FUNNY old Barbados…..!!

  28. Warrior

    On the contrary, No – Name, you may be CORRECT when you state….” Harold and Ellis are both loyal BLP supporters. I do not trust either of them when it comes to the BLP.”
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    If indeed they are both BLP supporters, then I smell a wild goose chase and an attempt to distract the public – with a walk out from the Minister of Tourism from Brass Tacks – away from a much bigger issue. Perhaps a certain cheque???

    The spin zone stops right here!!!!

  29. Jerome Hinds

    Warrior
    March 31st, 2007 at 1:48 am
    On the contrary, No – Name, you may be CORRECT when you state….” Harold and Ellis are both loyal BLP supporters. I do not trust either of them when it comes to the BLP.”
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    If indeed they are both BLP supporters, then I smell a wild goose chase and an attempt to distract the public – with a walk out from the Minister of Tourism from Brass Tacks – away from a much bigger issue. Perhaps a certain cheque???

    The spin zone stops right here!!!!
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    Warrior, that been the case with a CHEQUE likely involved……

    The BFP lead story should be changed to read….

    ” Barbados Tourism Minister FLEECES Radio Talk Show Over Question Of Personal Assets And Integrity Legislation) “……..then FLEES…..!

  30. No - Name

    let us be realistic the Nation will not suddenly change their modus operandi! That combination of Market Vendor ( The most loyal of them all….from back in Tom Adams time…..never mind Tom horned him and hurt him badly), Harold and Ellis are masters at spin docting. Don’t let them distract us,
    We cannot depend on them to help change what is happening in Barbados. For the first time in years VOB/StarCom/Nation is getting competition. …And they are unable to compete because a faceless medium called BFP is attracting over a million hits a month **** and free of cost1
    Many Bajans are tired of the situation in which pandering to the wishes and fancies of big business appears to be more important than catering to the needs of the small man.

    Policies for the small and poor are cosmetic while Shorey, Rodney, Owen, Lynch, Nicholls et al make themselves and the white peoples rich. Poor people living from pay cheque to pay cheque….while Owen accumulate millions in overseas accounts.

    He has ticked us for too long with his politics of inclusion. He used all the former DLP politicians like HAMMY LA….fired him..no shame; …and he will use Clyde as well..

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    Comment by BFP Robert

    Thanks for the kudos No-Name. We’re not quite at a million hits per month 🙂 – but we are currently running at about 1.7 million hits per year… and still skyrocketing.

    Robert

  31. Jerome Hinds

    Hi Folks,

    Well imagine there is no REPUBLIC as yet…..!

    Thank God citizens STILL can express on BFP….because trying to get my posting below on the BLP blog under the article ” Thompson’s Irrelavance ” was DELETED 3 times before I tried a 4th time….!!

    Just not sure if I am succesful in getting it on…!!

    I guess Royalrumble a.k.a Judas, did not REALISE that ALL the copies of the Weekend Nation Friday March 22, 2002 Page 3 were NOT…..BURNT….!!
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    Royalrumble a.k.a Judas,

    To be taken seriously on the issue of Transparency and Integrity you must first tell Barbadians WHERE and WHAT Owen Arthur did with the FBI file he said was on his DESK….!!

    You are so damn STUPID playing SMART but not being CLEVER…..you KNOW there is a CORREALATION between :

    1. The $ 750,000.00 Cheque in Owen ’s personal
    bank Account….!!!

    2. The BFP soon to be RELEASED Money Laundering story….!!!

    3. The Barney Lynch Plantation – poor – boy – story…!!

    Yuh NITWICK…..tell us which one of the ABOVE….involves David Thompson and the DLP…..?

    Royalrumble a.k.a Judas,

    Check the facts :

    Weekend Nation Friday March 22, 2002 Page 3.

    “Informed sources in the United States confirmed yesterday that the report was forwarded to Prime Minister Owen Arthur’s office late last week through the office of the Attorney-General Mia Mottley.”

    Dumbo…..!!

  32. Anonymous

    “I guess Royalrumble a.k.a Judas, did not REALISE that ALL the copies of the Weekend Nation Friday March 22, 2002 Page 3 were NOT…..BURNT….!!”

    Maybe they were in a dump somewhere and somebody found them.

  33. henery george

    KEEP up the good work david ellis both the advocate and the nation are in the goverment back pocket, that why they help cover up and do not print certain things against the goverment and the former member christ church west is a shareholder of the nation , Look how unfair owen and the b.l.p are remember some years there was a commision of enquiry of Brandford Taitt and St.Joseph hospital, it has been completed years now and turn over to goverment of barbados and is in the hands of the man that lives at goverment house, they cant let the public know what was said because branford was cleared of any wrong doing that how wicked they are, the longest day have an end wake barbadians you know how to vote next time around.

  34. Patrick Porter

    I have read all of the responses and it makes me really sad to see my Barbados.
    A country, where we used to have freedom of speech, now being murdered by the Owing bandits.
    I remember where you could say anyting about the politicans and no one but no one would threaten you with jail time or suing, you might get some heated responses, but that was all
    Barbados wake up, you are under the heel of a dictatorship
    You have no freedom of the press, no freedom of speech,politicans that are out of control and a group of yes men and women behind the BLP
    Yes, Barbados you are in a dictatorship by all other standards.
    If the people of Barbados give them the 4th term, then all I can say is they get what they deserve
    As some one who lives overseas, I can see what is happening better than those who live within it. I can tell you it is not a pretty picture

  35. Get In The Action

    The point is, how do we effect change beyond the pressure placed by this blog. By their nature politicians will only react to activism by large numbers. Just look at how fast Duguid reacted to the water park and the Friends of Graeme Hall when he realized how many of his constituents had signed that petition.

    Possibly an on-line petition supported by thousands of Barbadians will wake them up to the fact that we want Transparency and Integrity Laws now. That we want the ridiculous libel laws changed and our journalists emboldened once again.
    Any other suggestions?

  36. No - Name

    The BLP used that St. Joseph commision of enquiry to destroy Brandford Taitt politically. It worked because people thought Taitt was dishonest. Now the shoe is on the other foot and the spin doctors are out in full force.
    Note that the PM did not say that the information on Mia was faulse neither did Noel deny he was a millionnnaire.
    VOB and market vendor are in with the Nation and as I said before I am not sure that David Ellis himself is not part of this plot. We will see how he is treated in the future.
    I hope in the future we do not see the nation intruding into the lifes of ordinary citizens. I say again boycott the NATION.

  37. Jupiter

    No Name

    I am with you on that – let’s hit them where it really hurts and boycott the nation newspaper,or else they will see us as a bunch of talkers.

    For one thing,we know the nation doesnot do ‘investigative journalism’,and we know the ‘news stories’ that’s in the papers on a daily basis are the same as what you will hear on VOB and CBC,plus the regional and international news which you can get off the internet.

    So what are you paying these $1.50 and $2.00 and a $1.00 for?

    I know it becomes almost an addiction getting a daily newspaper that it’s almost hard to break,but how many times have we cheusped on going through the papers and find nothing worthwhile in it?

    Time for action people – put your money where your mouth is.

    Don’t forget also starcom network /VOB is owned by the Nation Group of companies/Nationnewspaper,and that Tony Audain who holds an executive position on the BLP is the CHAIRMAN of the Nation,and so was Fred Gollop who is now the President of the senate for the government

    Family ties people..

  38. No - Name

    The Boycott will work! A recent example was Purity Bakery. A call went out to stop buying bread from Purity and sales dropped by over 10%. They called in a Consultant to see how they could increase sales and just this week there was a paid ad in the newspaper from Purity saying among other things”After careful consideration of our present input and other business costs the Mnagement of Purity has taken the decison NOT TO INCREASE THE PRICE of any of the cdompany’s bread products at this time”

    It further said ” We appreciate and understand our customers’ concerns over prices and will do all in our power to maintain the present structure for as long as possib;e”

    It was not clear however whether there was going to be a reduction in the prices they put on recently or whether they were going to maintain the increased prices.
    One way or the other it does not matter to me because I have decided on a permanent boycott. The price increase of the flour could in no way justify the increase made by Purity. It was just another attempt made to juck out we eyes.

    Another increase we have to watch is that related to animal feed.

  39. D'Arts

    Who ever wrote the heading for this topic needs to revisit school, it makes absolutely no sense.

    ***********************

    Comment by Marcus

    Hi D’Arts,

    What would you suggest? We wanted to have search engines pick it up and trackback to Transparency International and various offshore investor forums.

    The issue is as we said – the Barbados media and Government are concealing corruption stories from the international media.

    We would welcome your suggestion for a new title.

    Thanks

    Marcus

  40. Pretender

    Edited by Marcus

    New Policy Re Comments

    The bulk of this comment was removed because the writer turned it into a highly innuendo-laced piece speculating on whether or not certain Members of Parliament have sex with their own gender.

    We don’t have the time or the inclination to go through each comment to edit out a word and phrase here and there, so our readers will have to police themselves or the entire comment will be removed… which is a shame because there are many good ideas that are being tossed aside over these sexual innuendos.

    Although we haven’t really been on top of this issue or spoken on this issue before, we are now… because such comments are taking the focus off the stated objectives of this blog. Bajans will talk and gossip – and we let all sorts of things that we don’t personally like slide by in the comments because we don’t want to limit the flow of communication.

    But this theme of highly sexual innuendo is changing the mood of the blog and detracting from our work.

    It will stop.

    Marcus

  41. Yardbroom

    The waters have become intentionally muddied, as the crabs have started to crawl sideways, in the hope that they will not be seen, but their legs have left a clearly defined imprint in the clay and their heavy claws, grasping public money are still held to their chests.

    We should focus on one thing, the inappropriate use of public funds, or monies inappropriately used, ” corruption”. To deviate from that issue goes off topic. Whilst other issues are important we invite others to indulge in legalise.

    I implore you no to go down that route, hammer away at what the ordinary Barbadian citizen can see before their eyes, and can relate to.

    Barbadians know the truth, they can see it, we must give them credit, they know when to speak, and when to act, and the measures open to them to bring about change.

    Sometimes it is best to state the obvious, we must give a message that Barbadians can understand, we must speak to the ordinary people, what are we speaking for, if we speak not to the people.

  42. Warrior

    I maintain that PUBLIC FIGURES HAVE NO PRIVATE LIVES!!!!.

    If we are talking about intrusions, can we not same the same when Mr. Owen in the midst of Parliament spoke about Irene Sandiford-Garner and her “personal” surgery even to the tune of the amount that was lent to her to pay for the surgery and the nature of that surgery. Several things happen to women and they don’t need it broadcast on national television. It was at that moment that I lost all remaining respect for him.

    Mr. Owen is disrespectful to women on a whole that is why he runs through the nation sewing his seed in every receptacle that will tolerate him, up to and including his ex-personal secretary.

    He has spoken about several others on the floor or Parliament, a supposed place of logical debate to take this country, instead it was reverted to the Fairchild Street Bus stand in the 1960 & 70 era where the market vendors used to fight and cuss one another.

    That is the caliber of people who run this Nation.

    Is it not fitting now that we talking about Owens wives and the amount of children he has and the fact that he had them from adulterous relationships.

    Is it not fitting now that we talk about Mr. Barney Rubble and the fact that he has amassed great wealth seemingly out of thin air ******************. He should work some of that magic to get some tourist foreign exchange in the country.

    ****************************************

    Edited by Marcus

    New Policy Re Comments

    The bulk of this comment was removed because the writer turned it into a highly innuendo-laced piece speculating on whether or not certain Members of Parliament have sex with their own gender.

    We don’t have the time or the inclination to go through each comment to edit out a word and phrase here and there, so our readers will have to police themselves or the entire comment will be removed… which is a shame because there are many good ideas that are being tossed aside over these sexual innuendos.

    Although we haven’t really been on top of this issue or spoken on this issue before, we are now… because such comments are taking the focus off the stated objectives of this blog. Bajans will talk and gossip – and we let all sorts of things that we don’t personally like slide by in the comments because we don’t want to limit the flow of communication.

    But this theme of “biting” and highly sexual innuendo is changing the mood of the blog and detracting from our work.

    It will stop.

    Marcus

  43. True Native

    Patrick Porter: “Members of the DLP should show the way forward for Barbados …” This is what I have been calling for too. I have stated that I am willing to give them another chance (at the risk of castigation from others who say both parties are a bunch of crooks, but OFFER US NO ALTERNATIVE!) I don’t envy David Thompson right now because I don’t think he will get FULL cooperation in his efforts. But he must now stand up and be counted.

  44. BFP

    D’Arts said… Who ever wrote the heading for this topic needs to revisit school, it makes absolutely no sense.

    ***********************

    Comment by Marcus

    Hi D’Arts,

    What would you suggest? We wanted to have search engines pick it up and trackback to Transparency International and various offshore investor forums.

    The issue is as we said – the Barbados media and Government are concealing corruption stories from the international media.

    We would welcome your suggestion for a new title.

    Thanks

    Marcus

  45. Warrior

    Marcus -BFP. My sincere apologies. Will stick to the issues from now on.

    Thanks for the heads up.

  46. BFP

    Thank you Warrior

    The great majority of folks are willing to abide by whatever standards our community settles upon.

    As we saw only too clearly when we let all comments be posted, it only takes a few to lead the rest of us downhill before we know what is happening.

    Much like the leadership of this country, don’t you agree?

    😉

  47. Warrior

    Sheepishly… I really do agree. I come cap in hand and ask for forgiveness. It won’t happen again.

    **************

    Comment by Marcus

    No problem at all Warrior. Your opinions always show your wisdom. We wish we had stepped in a little sooner when the trend started, but as our regular readers are aware, Shona and I were dealing with some family issues this week that took all our time. Nothing to worry about friends, just the normal business of living but it took all our time and every dollar we had in the savings account – and more. Oh well, God has still blessed us with good health and our family and friends.

    Marcus

  48. Warrior

    Thanks man. Now I can get back to level headed blogging

  49. Patrick Porter

    Marcus

    The comment you edited was not mine as I was away for a few hours and made no post on this question besides the one I made above it my last comment was at 11:36

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    Comment by Marcus

    Hi Patrick

    Interesting. Perhaps someone used your name then? In any event, I’ll change the name of that edited post so as not to reflect upon you.

    Marcus

  50. True Native

    Marcus, I’m very glad you’ve taken this step because when, some days ago, there was mention of this “biting” thing, I asked the blogger if he/she had actually witnessed it, and if not, they were guilty of scandalising someone. I got castigated for that and was informed that whatever politicians do “in the bushes” must be made public knowledge. There is absolutely no need to go down in the gutter when discussing any issue. We had enough of that in the Tom Adams era. Hope things are going smoothly for you and family now.

  51. Patrick Porter

    Thank you Marcus. I was warned that someone would use my name from a very high person in the leading party. It seems that they are on the trot, maybe I have hit them where it hurts. But I will not bend to them and will keep up the good fight.
    I have already been threatened with death by that party, back in the 86 election, so I am used to their ways

  52. Jupiter

    Patrick Porter

    You are new to this site so you don’t know the hell BFP Marcus and the team and us the readers have been going through with the BLP operatives coming on this site every couple of weeks with some trick or the other to shut down the site,discredit the site with cussin and using regular names like littleboy 56,to trying to find out the identity of the crew and the last one was the multiple postings under different names appearing to back up a position.

    I know BFP must be hitting where it hurts,and I know all 23 of them must be worried and wondering which one of them get ‘outed’ and information on their money laundering coming out in the open now.

    Dey messin dey undies all like now.

  53. Jupiter

    Sorry Patrick

    Forgot to ask you – did you say or mean to say that a senior member of the BLP party said they will be using your name on this blog site?

    Did they call you in canada,email you and can you divulge name or anything further?

  54. Patrick Porter

    Jupiter

    A retired friend of mine who is high up in the BLP called me and warned me. Now I will not reveal his name as he is a long standing friend and I don’t stab friends in the back even if they disagree with me. That’s how I am, but I know like wise he will not stab me in the back, so I respect him for it

  55. vortex

    Those strategies sound very like Sylvan Ignoramus GReenidge at work.

  56. Jupiter

    Thanks Patrick.

    I respect your decision not to call your friend’s name,I was however concerned as to how they got hold of you all the way in canada.

  57. True Native

    Oh, you blind, blind lot! The veil was lifted from my eyes from way back when. Sorry to have to speak in parables, but … go figure! Or else, put a psychologist on this site.

  58. Patrick Porter

    True Native
    You do speak in parables. And I wish you the best. Inform us of your thoughts, so that we might share in your wisdom

  59. Patrick Porter

    Jupiter

    That is the price we pay for not living in a democratic society, but one that is controlled by the PARTY. George Orwells 1984, big brother is watching has come to pass in Barbados

  60. Jerome Hinds

    Questions posed by me to the DLP on their blog and their responses regarding Integrity Legislation.
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    Jerome Hinds

    March 30th, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    ” This incident brings the whole question of transparency and accountability right again to the fore. ”

    ———————————————————-

    DLP after recognising the foregoing what is the DLP philosophical and policy position on Integrity , Transparency and Accountability legislation ?

    Can the public of Barbados get a defintive position from the DLP on this issue before we get to the tail spin of an election Campaign?

    When would a DLP government introduce such legislation ?

    The first 100 days, first term in office ?

    What guarantees can the DLP give the citizens of Barbados that the DLP will implement and uphold such legislation ?

    Have the DLP already begun the process of benchmarking such legislation against what is happening in countries with such legislation ?

    I await your prompt response.
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    dlpbarbados

    March 31st, 2007 at 2:16 am

    Hi Jerome

    The Democratic Labour Party through its political Leader and President has indicated that the party if given the opportunity to form the next government of Barbados will put in place accountability and transparency legislation in place.

    The party has to examine of course the different models across the Commonwealth to adapt that which is most applicable to our situation.
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    Jerome Hinds

    March 31st, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    Thanks for your prompt response.

    My questions:

    Would it be impracticable to ask all current DLP candidates in the upcoming election to DECLARE their interests / assets as the first steps towards such a process….??

    Wouldn’t all DLP candidates sign a Code of Conduct…..??

    How would signing such differ from signing a DECLARATION of assets / interests…??

    The Barbados of 2007 has a more SOPHISTICATED electorate…influenced by Global Politics and Events….!!

    DLP…just think of the Enron and Scooter Libby cases….!

  61. Jerome Hinds

    dlpbarbados

    March 31st, 2007 at 9:24 pm

    Hi Jerome,

    A code of conduct is a voluntary measure, which all candidates in an election can be called upon to sign. This code will simply spell out what is the most decency approach to take in the political arena, re the opponent and the acquisition of resources, among other issues such as the bribing of the electorate. That would be a first step. A more embracing concept would be putting in place Finance Election Laws and Regulations above and beyond those found in the Representation of the Peoples Act.

    A declaration of assets would demand of those persons who are doing such to state their gross worth as well as their liabilities. In some jurisdictions these matters are handled by a Legally Constituted Commission called an Integrity Commission whose job is to police the legislation. In such instances the citizen do not have access to the knowledge to what is declared, The citizens have to rely on the integrity of the Commissioners.

    We firmly believe that there is no turning back from the process of integrity legislation and making Politicians and Public Servants more accountable and transparent in their management of the affairs of state.

    ************************

    BFP Cliverton comments…

    Fine, fine words by the DLP. Same as the fine, fine words by so many over the years – DLP and BLP have both promised integrity legislation over the years at various times.

    Too little, too late.

    To the DLP… Why didn’t you have legislation ready to go two years ago? Like the BLP, you never recently mentioned the words “Conflicts of Interest”, “Integrity Legislation”, “Transparency” until the Barbados Free Press started pushing in January of 2006 – and even then it took you almost a full year.

    Fine, fine words.

    Cliverton

  62. Jupiter

    Unfair cliverton,very unfair

    2 years ago the DLP was then under the leadership of clyde mascoll,who it is quite clear now in hindsight was deliberately doing everything to ensure the BLP got back in,and the dems stayed disunited.

    A new leader coming in – david thompson – had to first stop the hemmoraging,stabilise the party,and then start setting about formulating and putting policies in place.

    I am not a member of the dlp nor certainly the blp,but it is clear to me that sometimes what is being asked of the DLP is a little unfair.

    While it’s fine to keep saying that the dlp should introduce a private member’s bill re integrity legislation else they are all piggy at the trough,I think it serves no purpose other than to confuse some voters who are looking for guidance for you BFP to now say that even though the dlp has agreed to implement integrity legislation – it’s only fine words.

    Last year,the BFP was all enraged because David thompson didnot categorically state he was going to introduce integrity legislation,now that he has said so,you are saying go further introduce a private members’ bill,then let all your MPs and candidates declare their asset – why not ask this of owen and his thieves first and foremost?

    I think in our haste to spread the criticism evenly,we need to remember that only a little over a year ago the dlp party was in disarray with mascoll being the spy on board,and within that short space of time the DLP have consolidated their base and are attracting uncertain voters.

    For me the question is simple – after seeing what owen has done to my country and how he has mortgaged the future of barbadians while he and his friends and family live high off the hog – getting richer and richer,the issue is will I allow this rot to go on,or will I give some young barbadians who have not have their lives tainted by scandal come in and stop the rot.

    By all means demand high standards of the new lot,but always remember while we are pushing the DLP in a corner owen and the BLP are gorging themselves fat on the wealth of this country.

    I put country first rather than personality.

    It matters not to me whether this person looks and sounds like a politician,but whether the person has the interest of barbados at heart.

    *************************

    Comment by Marcus

    Jupiter said “It matters not to me whether this person looks and sounds like a politician,but whether the person has the interest of barbados at heart.”

    There you have it, Jupiter! It seems such a simple thing, doesn’t it?

    And IF these folks had the good of Barbados first and foremost in their hearts, they would have been advocating for a change in the system for the last 12 years.

    They would have said, “My fellow members of Parliament. Here is my statement of assets and income. I pledge to you that I shall never make a decision that uses my power or influence to enrich me or my family. My salary for the next year shall be my MP’s salary, and if there is any other income or increase in my worth, I shall reveal it. I shall not award contracts to friends or family, and I shall not accept any “consulting” fees, nor shall I accept any position after I am no longer in government service that would see me lobbying the government for five years after I leave government service. I now call upon all those in this honourable house to do the same, and further, to bring Integrity and Transparency Legislation before this house for a vote within the next 12 months.”

    Any one of our sitting MPs could have done that. Any of the parties could have done that.

    They did not. They never even said the words until BFP started to rattle their chains.

    Thompson included.

    So… we don’t trust them. You may choose to, but we don’t. We want action and proof now before we give our support or vote for them.

    Marcus

  63. John

    Jupiter
    April 1st, 2007 at 8:57 am
    Unfair cliverton,very unfair

    I can see your point, but as the saying goes, “To whom much is given, much is required”.

    David should not take too long settling in if he knows what’s good for him.

    “Desperate times require desperate measures”.

    It is time to get moving.

    … and yes, we need some fresh blood that meets the requirements you setout.

  64. True Native

    Jupiter/John

    I agree with you both. Here’s something else to think about: vehicle emissions. I was travelling home yesterday, driving up Rock Hall, St. Thomas, and in front of me a car was belching out the most foul, black smoke imaginable. I had to stop in the hill and wait five minutes so I could breathe properly again. I would like David Thompson to do something about that problem preferably BEFORE the Great Event (in June?). So take it away, Thompy, don’t let this lot run with the idea first.

  65. BFP

    Comment by Marcus

    Jupiter said “It matters not to me whether this person looks and sounds like a politician,but whether the person has the interest of barbados at heart.”

    There you have it, Jupiter! It seems such a simple thing, doesn’t it?

    And IF these folks had the good of Barbados first and foremost in their hearts, they would have been advocating for a change in the system for the last 12 years.

    They would have said, “My fellow members of Parliament. Here is my statement of assets and income. I pledge to you that I shall never make a decision that uses my power or influence to enrich me or my family. My salary for the next year shall be my MP’s salary, and if there is any other income or increase in my worth, I shall reveal it. I shall not award contracts to friends or family, and I shall not accept any “consulting” fees, nor shall I accept any position after I am no longer in government service that would see me lobbying the government for five years after I leave government service. I now call upon all those in this honourable house to do the same, and further, to bring Integrity and Transparency Legislation before this house for a vote within the next 12 months.”

    Any one of our sitting MPs could have done that. Any of the parties could have done that.

    They did not. They never even said the words until BFP started to rattle their chains.

    Thompson included.

    So… we don’t trust them. You may choose to, but we don’t. We want action and proof now before we give our support or vote for them.

    Marcus

  66. Jupiter

    BFP Marcus

    I think you are missing my main point.

    During the past 12 years you referred to above when integrity legislation should have been introduced, the Owen Arthur administration was in power.

    During that time the DLP party had just suffered a breakaway faction in the party led by richie haynes,then lost an election under the leadership of Lloyd Sandiford,and at the end of a period of about 3 short years – the mantle of leadership was passed on to David thompson.

    During that first period – owen arthur was paying senior DLP members within the party to spy and give him information (just cast your mind back to what richard sealy,david thompson et al had to say in and out of the house),eventually owen brought these traitors completely within the fold of the BLP party giving them big chunks of ‘the fatted calf’.

    For example,Kerrie simmons,rudy grant,clyde mascoll,johnny tudor,hammie lashley,trevor prescod and on and on.

    During this time the Nation newspaper and the Advocate had a field day pushing strife between david thompson and clyde mascoll,then strife between david thompson and dennis kellman – every day every week – the DLP’s business was the news – while all this time the BLP was quietly and not so quietly tiefing from the treasury and the public purse.

    Not a word about this however from harold hoyte and the Nation newspaper.

    Then the biggest coup of all:Owen finally believing that now that he had gotten most of what he needed to get from party headquarters – and convinced that he had caused sufficient damage too the party and thrown the DLP in complete disarray – gambled on what he owen clearly thought was the master stroke – that is, to bring mascoll over to his side and put him in the bosom of the party and the cabinet.

    What he didnot count on was the fair mindedness of the bajan populace – who said – enough owen arthur – we are disgusted by you and mascoll – that was a low blow indeed you gave the DLP party.

    So,the die hard party members called again on David thompson to take up the mantle of leadership for the DLP party – and once again leading the party – but this time thompson I’m sure much wiser and more mature – started to rebuild from the tatters the ‘once great’ DLP party.

    To the consternation and horror of the BLP party,thompson’s work started to pay off and we saw a party that now seems re- energised,one that has from all reports brought back to the party ranks the dis – illusioned party members (called by the blp press – as the Arthur dems) – and most importantly of all started to create hope in the hearts of those independents who were looking for an alternative.

    I think therefore, before we just glibly dismiss thompson’s promise to introduce integrity legislation – as just empty since he did nothing for 12 years – I say think on these things (above).

  67. vortex

    What we are interested in here is integrity. Not bashing for the sake of bashing politicians. My advice to David Thompson is simple: he should declare his personal assets before the next election.

    Let’s start there. The public reaction will be favourable. Others will follow – have no doubts about that! And we can then judge them one by one.

    Next he must make good on his promise of integrity legislation, conflict of interest rules, parliamentary declration no assets, the creation of a contractor-general etc.

  68. akabozik

    I side with Marcus that any one of these politicians could have taken leadership about integrity at any time in the last decade.

    If it had been important to the DLP, they could have convened a conference a year ago and instituted it.

    If Thompson does anything more than just promise, I would be willing to give him a chance. but it must be more than a spoken intent. It must be something concrete.

  69. Jerome Hinds

    BFP , Jupiter and other fellow bloggers,

    I share your view for the implementation on Integrity Legislation etc.

    But bear in mind such legislation does not extend to politicians, ministers of government…ONLY…..also must be included are our public servants and judiciary etc.

    A BLP Government in power for 13 years now…who better to get public officers and the judiciary on board….?

    After all it is the BLP over the past 13 years who have been appointing public officers and members of the judiciary….!

    But what do we EXPECT from the BLP when Owen Arthur is on RECORD as saying…No NEED for Integrity Legislation….??

    BFP,

    The NEW and RECONSTITUTED DLP says it will implement such legislation when in office…!

    BFP,

    The BLP says NO to such…!

    The NEW and RECONSTITUTED DLP says WE…will..!

    Give it a CHANCE…!

  70. No - Name

    Marcus and the above bloggers,
    I agree with you..I think the DLP will score significant brownie points if they introduce Integrity Legislation!

    If we do not do something now I fear we will breed the kind of corrupt society that will result in crime similar to Trinidad/Jamaica/Guyana.

    Just now somebody gwine get real vex because they can’t feed themselves because the politicians and big businessmen thiefing all the money and living like gods.

    W

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  74. Rals

    No-Name,
    How do u know that sales at Purity drop by 10%. For your information Purity only put an ad in the newspaper saying that they will not raise their prices because Zephirin was raising theirs. This was based on the question from the Nation. Also, no consultant was hired to increase sales. Where did u get your info from? Not long after Nicholls also raise their prices and no one said anything. It was only a matter of time before Z raise theirs. They only need a jackass back to ride on. It’s a pity that you are not buying any of their products because they have some mouth-watering products that would delight your fancy.

  75. No - Name

    Rals,
    What was May Hinds doing at Purity? Andy, the General Manager told me his sales drop by 10 %.
    Now why would Andy of Purity be concerned about Zephirins if they have such mouth – watering products?

    So de Nation Newspaper called and informed Purity that Zephirins was going to raise prices? I hope Zephirins see this and realise that they can’t trust de nation? WELL ..welll wellll…..see how big business does stay on top …..LAPDOGS

    All of you Zephirins, Purity, Nicholls,,,,ripping off the poor consumers…maybe we should boycott all of you!
    By the way ..how did you get your information? Are you Andy…..?

  76. Rals

    May Hinds is all about service quality. Everyone has to be concern or be aware about the competition. Nation called and asked Andy if he was going to raise his prices and he said that he would know in a few day or words to that effect. They did not informed him since he should have been aware that Z prices was going up. He should have been aware even before the Nation called him.

    No one is ripping aff any one. Haven’t you not notice that biscuits have gone up too? And that is poor people food. What are u going to do? Every thing gone up. Stop eating?Just but the things that you need.

    If I was Andy u would know. I am observant and that is how I got my info.

    You should reconsider your decision and buy one of your informant’s mouth watering Coconut Cakes or Jam Puffs.

  77. True Native

    John: Where have your gone? Don’t tell me the Sicko on this site ran you?

  78. Tudor

    I have also been amused and saddened that people called for a boycott on Purity because of the price increases, but continued to buy their children brand names clothes and expensive footware. In addition to giving them a grantley every monday morning as pocket money to take to school.

  79. John

    True Native

    Thanks, it’s nice to be missed!!

    There are no Sickos on this site, just a whole lot of people who are having a ball being able to say what they want (within reason), get a response and sometimes engage in discussion.

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  81. No - Name

    Rals/Andy,
    You are a liar! …and you are either Andy or a fly on the wall in Andy’s office…since as you stated above that you were able to observe his comments to the Nation Newspaper…..

    You are a liar because Nicholls never raised his prices. In fact recently Nicholls suggested that he did not understand why the question of price increases ever came up because the increases were only targeted at the small packages of flour and not the bags that are usually purchased by the bakers to product bread.

    I maintain the increase in prices in Purity bread was not justifiable. When you look at the amount of bread that is produced with ONE bag of flour and input the increase in flour it is so insignificant that it was Unconscionable for Purity and any other bakery to consider increasing bread. I hope that many other consumers join me in a permanent ban on purity.

    One day coming soon I hope barbadians will wake up and support only those who have their interest.
    Perhaps BFP will be the conduit to a better Barbados in the short and long time.

  82. Rals

    I am not Andy because if I was, you would know because you know you are telling lies just for a conversation. Do you really think that any professional would disclose info about their company?

    If u were aware of what was going on, u would know that Nicholls raised their prces not long after Purity raise theirs. Additionally, u should have read the Nation about Andy’s response like I did. It was big and bold in the newspaper on Thursday, March 30. You are an imbecile to think that you could make bread with only flour. What about the other ingredients that goes into making bread. You knows nothing about what goes on in the international market that affects prices here.

    Sardines uses to sell for .99 and now they have gone up by about 50%. The only one that dont know that prices have risen is you because you like u dont cook nor buy gas. U like u does eat at all dee fast food resturants in town.

  83. Rals

    That was directed at No-Name

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  87. what a shame on you so called leaders, hell fire waiting, burning hotter than ever. remember you are being judge by the evidence and man can not save you so run workers of the devil.be contented with your wages.

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