Financial Fallout Of Cricket World Cup Hits India

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What About All Those Air India Charter Flights That Were Coming To Barbados?

Now that India is out of the Cricket World Cup finals, Indian businesses are taking a heck of a hit – and as this BBC article mentions, it’s not just the travel industry that is out millions.

In Barbados, we will realize a certain level of economic activity just from hosting the finals – but as many Indian businesses are reminding themselves, sponsorship and involvement in mega-events carries significant risks. No one can definitively predict the outcome of an endeavour that involves so many variables.

From the BBC…

The Financial Cost Of India’s Failure

With cricket-crazy India now out of the first round of the World Cup, the financial fallout is starting to become apparent.

India’s exit poses questions about the viability of heavy spending around a team that has not won a competition of note outside the subcontinent since 1985.

“The major stakeholders in the tournament – the television channels and major sponsors – risk losing millions, either in cash or kind, if India go out in the first round,” wrote Sambit Bal, the editor of leading cricket website Cricinfo last week.

“It’s a disaster waiting to happen.”

The disaster has now happened

It is difficult to pin down exactly how much money the television channels, advertisers and travel agents who sold packaged cricket trips to the West Indies have lost, but unofficial estimates say corporates will take a hit of at least $35m.

‘Big flop’

One of those hit by the debacle may be the World Cup’s official broadcaster Sony Entertainment Television…

… continue reading this article at the BBC (link here)

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114 responses to “Financial Fallout Of Cricket World Cup Hits India

  1. Bajanboy

    Well, Barney says the charters are all sold and are still coming, and we all know that Barney always speaks the truth.

  2. Jerome Hinds

    Well Bajanboy you are so right….Barney always stretchhhhhhhh….the TRUTH…!!!

  3. Patrick Porter

    I mentioned this already in one of my posts. I would like to know where the Minister of Tourism gets his facts from, maybe the tooth “fairy”. The Indians are not going to come if the do not have a team in the finals and I can see cancellations of the flights shortly. This is one I would like Lynch to answer. How much is Barbados going to lose through this endevour? Maybe Royalrumble can answer this one sice he is so close to Lynch

  4. Anonymous

    Ha! I get my cheque from VoB and I cool.
    I could retire now, den!

    T’ink I mindin’ wunnuh?

  5. Jerome Hinds

    Remain cool , Lynch , in a few months time life for you will become a living HELL………at Harrison’ s Point in St. Lucy….!!!

  6. Javon Griffith

    Listen up people, how could anyone foresee the fact that India would have been knocked out? Certainly you can’t blame the Hon. Noel Lynch for this CWC shock. No one expected Pakistan to be knocked out either. If the Indians love cricket as much as they claim they do, they will still come.

  7. Fred

    It is my understanding that the Air India flights are no longer coming for CWC, and earlier their was a plan for three South African Airways 747’s to be coming with tourist to Barbados apparently it is now down to one SAA aircraft and that is being positioned (positioned here Lynch means it is coming empty) here to pickup the South African Team to take them back home at the end of the competition.
    Lynch can you tell us anything more re the above or do you have anything to say to clear your name from your lies on Brass Tacks about the number of arrivals to be expected in Barbados for CWC you stated 90,000 when really it is more like 25,000 / 30,000 a long way from 90,000? and anything to say to clear your tarnished name regarding the numbers to be staying on ships let me remind you stated 75,000, when are the 28 ships the size of the Carnival Destiny coming in? and finally do you have anything to say to clear your tarnished name regarding the loan that you blatanly said you knew nothing about but is on the BIS site clearly stating that it was borrowed from the Bank of Nova Scotia

  8. Fred

    It is difficult to pin down exactly how much money the television channels, advertisers and travel agents who sold packaged cricket trips to the West Indies have lost, but unofficial estimates say corporates will take a hit of at least $35m.
    This is $ 70 mill Barbados dollars folks a lota money Barney lynch anything to lie to us with?

  9. concerned

    Javon Griffith
    I think the problem is that many people with common sense who looked at similar past events in other countries felt that there needed to be extreme caution with World Cup spending by the Governments involved and they said so. In particular there needed to be strict controls in place. This did not seem to happen in Barbados. I cannot speak about the other islands.

    I agree that no one can predict how this will turn out but if a Government was seen to be acting responsibly while spending tax payers’ money then taxpayers would feel more comfortable and reassured.

    People started to worry when the location at Kensington was chosen as it is in the middle of town, has limited parking and required a lot of money being spent up front to move several large businesses and private households.

    We can only hope for the best.

  10. Patrick Porter

    Javon Griffith

    No he could not have foreseen the knock out of India. But he could have made plans for that to happen, in any business you plan for the future, It seems to me that his Government only plans for the present. Just like the selling of our land to foreginers. They need the quick dollar to fill the pockets quickly, so if they get kicked out they will be rich and can then laugh at the rest of us. I don’t know who you are but I wish you would stop defending such and incompetent as the Minister. His brain level is that of a jackass and he does what his master Owing tells him.

  11. Lady Anon

    JG…you might be a young’un…but, please note that the BLP is famous for the superficial…like painting a chattel house that is termite ridden. It looks good from far, but far from good.

    That is the way Bim is right now…all the construction, road works, beautification of Bridgetown…OMG it looks so good…but all now we catching we tail…social services at an all time low, food expensive, can’t even afford rent far less a house.

    I am not saying that these things were not needed…far from it…but not at the expense of the basic needs of the every day Bajan/citizen/resident.

  12. william duguid

    If your article above is to be believed and $35M was spent on travel packages. That sounds like a whole lot Indian supporters were coming and still have committed funds for their expected travel.

    Sounds like a whole lot of tourists were coming just from India.

  13. william duguid

    From the numbers it looks like 4,000 Indians were expected and they now expect just a few cancellations.

    “But Sotc, one India-based travel agency which has booked over 500 packages -60% of them sponsored by companies – priced between $7600 and $ 13,000 say it does not expect many cancellations. ”

    This from the same article.

  14. Michele

    People because this Javone might be young that doesn’t mean you should be stupid.

    The state of Barbados is plain to see, I am young a bit of a hot head but I’m not stupid.

    Javone is singing the BLP song and it seems to me that because he thinks these people are gods he must get something for singing it.

    Who knows maybe this Barney fella gave him the job he has now as he seem to be just as out of touch as he.

  15. Lady Anon

    Michelle…I don’t believe that Javone is stupid…there is a difference between ignorant and stupid.

    And before people get up in arms…

    “ignorant – lacking knowledge or awareness in general.”

    “stupid – lacking intelligence or common sense.”

  16. You are a lot of Jokers

    Duguid, Honestly it is difficult to believe anything that you and the rest of you lot say, you are a lot of compulsive liars and seem to be getting more chronic with each passing day that you are waiting to get swept out of the doors of parliment and then return to the real world of work and not making your living stealing from the taxpayers of this island and cutting deals for kick backs from the various projects going on in this island, ask your leader Owing how much he collected so far from the Jail (where he and a few more of your cabinet should be sent to) the Slot Machine Deal with he and Hallam Nicholls and the proposed West Coast Sewage Treatment project better yet dont ask because you will be surprised and want to get into the act as well and we can’t afford too much more corruption at this time.
    Ever heard about cancellations and this is exactly what is taking place.
    Yesterday when they surveyed the Indian public see cricketcheck.com they asked where they likely to watching any of the cricket the minor total of
    75 % said they would not be and had no further wishes to watch it, you tell me how that will translate to arrivals into BGI.

  17. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid, welcome back to the BFP site!

    Since Brasstacks Sunday programme of 2007 – 03 -25 the lack of HONESTY AND INTEGRITY from the Minister of Tourism have left Barbadians PUZZLED….!!

    Since you pride yourself as BEING an honest person……help us to understand…WHY

    Minister of Tourism , Noel Lynch..

    1. CLAIM to be a God – send for Tourism…..and YET after 7 years as Minister he CLAIM on a Tourism – related radio programme HE does not have any INFO on GEMS…??

    2. CLAIM no money was paid to Carnival Destiny…while the Sunday Sun of 2007- 03 – 25 on page 43A STATES that Carnival Destiny has been contracted…??

    3. In addition, a Bill to secure the payment of funds to secure the services of the same Carnival Destiny was DEBATED in the Parliament of Barbados….??

    william duguid, may I REMIND you that you have DISPLAYED a KNACK for producing
    ” COPIED “extracts from HANSARD……!!!

    Therefore, questions 2 & 3 should be EASY pickings for you…..!!!

  18. Puzzled

    Of all the arrogance of Lynch
    . Ellis should not be the one apologising to him, he should be the one apologizing to the people of B’dos for lying so boldly. Do Owing and his band of merry tiefing men think that bajans are so stuuupid that we believe everything they throw at us?

  19. william duguid

    Sorry to offend you my friend.
    I was just pointing out what was said further down in the article. I too believe that there will be cancellations but would you consider that this could be balanced by new bookings from the countries that are going forward.

    With respect to the Tourism matters this a gurantee should they not be able to get the expected number of people on the cruise ship.

    No money should be paid if they can get the number on the ship. I am told the ship is 80% sold. It is like being a gurantor for a friend for a loan. Once your friend can pay you do not have a problem.

  20. william duguid

    sorry comment gone awaiting moderation.

  21. william duguid

    From CBC
    The Barbados Tourism Authority is borrowing nearly US $15 million to lease a cruise ship for World Cup Cricket 2007 and government is being asked to guarantee the loan.

    Mike Goddard reports that a resolution to this effect is before Parliament and is expected to be debated during tomorrow’s session of the House of Assembly.

    According to the measure, the BTA plans to lease the ship Carnival Destiny from Carnival Cruise Lines to provide additional accommodation for the ICC Cricket World Cup 2007.

    The loan for this BTA project is coming from the Bank of Nova Scotia and government is being asked to guarantee the principal sum and interest.

    Now I know some people see the BTA as Government but it is a separate entity which is using this opportunity to do two things. 1 House the excess numbers of people expected and 2 Make a profit and foreign exchange on providing this accomadation.
    The trick is to get it as full as possible.

    Now I am told we have approximately 6,000 rooms.

    If 15,000 people come it may be difficult to house this number of people in this number of rooms bearing in mind that a portion of your visitors unrelated to cricket will be using a portion of those 6,000 rooms.

    I appreciate that there is some risk involved but based on the nubers from previous tours it appears reasonable.

  22. william duguid

    again comment awaiting moderation.

  23. Peltdown Man

    William Duguid
    the $35 million mentioned in the article wasn’t for visitor cancellations, but total estimated corporate losses in India, including TV, advertizing, etc. Best to get the facts right, I reckon.
    However, I’m sorry but I detect more than a little schadenfreude in some of the mails. We sincerely hope that the Indians still come, and everyone else planning the trip. The alternative would be nothing to crow about, it would be a disaster for everyone.

  24. You are a lot of Jokers

    He says 60% sold on Sunday and you say 80 % today just typical of the chronic sickness of liars we have become used to, come on man which one is it? It is likely to be none sold if it was being booked for the Indians as we understand that it was. What about these 25- 40 ft containers of supplies, are we collecting anything in duties etc from the largest cruise ship company in the world or has he worked a back hander to cover this as well? will this be the money he needs to finish the garden?

  25. Wishing in Vain

    Duguid what are we to make of your ministers numbers with arrivals for the period he stated at being 90,000 and 75,000 on cruise ships is he on drugs or just stupid as ever or lying to fool us the idots for putting you lot in power again?

  26. william duguid

    Dear Pelt Down,

    In the article it says 4,000 tourists were expected. It also says a package is approximately 10,000. (7,000-13,000)

    I beleives that is $40,000,000.
    This is unrelated to the corporate sponsorship.
    All from the quoted article.

  27. Wishing in Vain

    And this fellow MP of yours came to the people on the radio station on Sunday and blatantly denied knowing anything about this loan?
    His creditability is shot trust me people are not as ignorant as you polticians feel that we are and we take great insult to people telling us lies as you all are doing in the belief that we are fooled.

  28. Wishing in Vain

    I would like to see the Indians that have
    US $ 10,000.00 per person to do this trip with and secondly what part of this cost do you really believe is getting to the bank in Barbados????? by the time the travel agencies commission the airline tickets come out Lynch’s commission and whatever else they can add into it comes out we will be seeing the small end of the money.
    And how does it help the restaurant owners if these people are being provided food and drink and entertainment on the ship????
    Not even the likeyhood of taking in a cultural show or a drink at the waterfront Bar.

  29. william duguid

    Please do not underestimate Indian tourists. There are thousands of very wealthy people in India who are able to travel where ever they wish.

    You could quite easily say this about any ship that comes into Barbados not only for this event but any time and yet years of experience shows that although all is provided on board people still use the oppourtunity to visit other attractions on shore.

  30. Patrick Porter

    William duguid

    They are six people from Canada of Indian descent, who have cancelled their plans to visit the Caribbean, due to the knock out of India. They had reserved hotel rooms and were quite happy to pay the 3 day cancelltion fee, that is 6 people I know personally. So I guess we will have to hold our breaths and wait and see. I have sent and e-mail to Air India and asked if they will be flying to the Caribbean for the CWC, I should have my answer tomorrow morning, when I get it I will post it. I have a cannection at Air India

  31. Wishing in Vain

    Typical poltician Bulls__t baffles brains

  32. william duguid

    Wishing in Vain

    It is obvious that you are a reasonably educated person. Do you not think that it is reasonable to try to use a floating hotel to house additional tourists expecting 15-20 thousand if you only have 6000 rooms some being used by visitors unrelated to cwc .

  33. Wishing in Vain

    And we will be having hotel rooms empty??? meanwhile your figures are those concocted by Lynch are we to take him serious after his bout of lying as we found him out to be doing????

  34. Wishing in Vain

    How will you think about it when we will have hotel rooms empty and cruise ships taking guest away from hotels that they would have stayed in had the ships not been there how can there be a shortage of hotel rooms when for the same period of the finals we have west coast hotels showing
    45 % occupancy this is a St .James very nice hotel as well ????

  35. Devil's Advocate

    On a different note…has anyone been following the Glendairy inquest?

    From what I have heard in testimony so far,Colonel Nurse sounds a lot like our PM.

    Ridiculing his staff like they were nothing,one even sain she felt he placed her on the same level as the inmates.

    I always had a fear of military people heading institutions with civilian staff.

  36. william duguid

    It would appear that the high end hotels will have some challenges. As alot of the visitors hope to be housed in low to medium rate accomadation.

    This is where one would expect that their regular high end tourist would continue their regular patronage.

  37. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid, says ,

    ” The trick is to get it as full as possible. ”
    —————————————————————
    william duguid, nice try…..that’s a BIG trick…!!

    Answer me this :

    1. Who appoints the BTA board…??

    2. Where does the BTA gets it funds to advertise Barbados abroad….??

    So HOW could you CLAIM the BTA and Government to be SEPARATE and DISTINCT….??

    If this is not TRUE…..deny it…

    On the 9th of March ,2006 , the Cabinet AUTHORISED :-

    1. the BTA to spearhead the effort to conclude negotiations with a commercial cruise line company for the most cost effective option that can be made available to Barbados to secure cruise ship accomodation for CWC 2007; AND

    2. the Ministry of Finance to issue a letter of credit, a letter of comfort or some other form of PAYMENT accepatable to the ship’s owner to secure the vessel or Barbados.

    Now tell Barbadians…..is the Ministry of Finance within the BTA…….or part of the GOVERNMENT of Barbados…..???

    So how COULD you lie and say it is the BTA and NOT the Government of Barbados…..??

    FORGET the LIES and Come Again….!!!

  38. no name

    duguid you back..I ask you about Trever Prescod racial statement on Esther Sukoo Byer..a lowdown comment that cast aspersions on you too cause you and her look like family. You got a response yet?

  39. Wishing in Vain

    Even if the high end resume holidays their stay will be at half the cost and in the lead up period the hotels have suffered badly because these regular vistors have avoided Bdos during this period of CWC becuse in most instances when they attempted to book rooms cricket logistics had rooms blocked off even if they were not filling these rooms.
    If every high end visitor returned to Bdos after CWC the revenue loss will still be very painful.

  40. anon

    the resolution to guarantee the borrowing of funds to lease the carnoval ship is at the attached e-mail address

    http://barbadosparliament.com/htmlarea/uploaded/File/Resolutions/Resolution_ICC_World_Cup_2007_$14,772,000.pdf

  41. william duguid

    So Jerome by your question who appoints the Board you have already agreed that the BTA is run by a board and not the Government.

    Those appointed are reasonably free to run the BTA in what they think are its best interest. I even remember significant political catastrophes on the DLP as it relates to the very same board hoe it is comprised and what it does.
    Some would agrue that this was the beginning of the end for the last DLP administration.

  42. william duguid

    That should be HOW and not hoe

  43. Wishing in Vain

    Duguid and you point??????
    Did Lynch know or did he not know is the question about or was he in another world in??? He acted as if there was no loan we are confused!!!!

  44. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid,

    Your attempt to LIE your way out of a situation LEAVES no DOUBT in one’s MIND which end of your anatomy……….your BRAIN functions from…!!

    The government of Barbados APPOINTS / DISAPPOINTS with respect to the BTA….!!

    So a moojin like you CANNOT confuse anybody that understand the WORKINGS of the Government of Barbados….!!!

    Since you WANT to ARGUE that the BTA is a law unto itself……how come Billie Miller as Minister at the time DECLARED to Barbados that the CABINET of Barbados was putting Earlyn Shuffler and his 3 man team to head the BTA…!!!

    I am sure you recall those 3 men who got the MEGA – Six salaries….!!!

    Tell us now that the BTA …..mek that DECISION and not the Government of Barbados…..!!!

  45. Straight talk

    Dear William,
    Stop digging the hole.
    Go to a darkened room, lie down.
    Put your feet above your head.
    And scream ARRRRRGHH!!
    Then you will get the true Bajan’s feeling of impotence in this sea of smoke and mirrors.

  46. BK

    Mr. Duguig lets cut to the chase. If the BTA board commits to borrowing 15 million with a government guarantee as collateral what it means simple is that it is a liability which central government is obligated to reflect in its current financials until the loan is repaid by the BTA. Whether it the BTA is a board is immaterial. I think we are all getting bogged down in semantics because the reality is that if the BTA can’t pay the GoB guarantee will be called.

  47. Wishing in Vain

    So stupid these people are defending the indefensible a pack of clowns.
    It will be a great day when they are outside on their a___es, without the people of this country to steal from.
    I have not heard a whisper from Owing re his ministers silly season comments?????

  48. Jerome Hinds

    Hello Fellow Bloggers,

    If we thought Lynch was bad……then read the 4th paragraph of the link below and see how TERRIBLE Duguid is…..!!!

    http://barbadosparliament.com/htmlarea/uploaded/File/Resolutions/Resolution_ICC

    Dr. Duguid……GOOD at DOCTORING the TRUTH…..contends that it is the BTA that borrowed the MONEY for Carnival Destiny….NOT….the Government of Barbados of which he is apart (ing) or is it…??? a part…?? apartSot iu

  49. True Native

    Jerome Hinds:
    I clicked on the link and up comes a page saying NOT FOUND. You ran him off, or what?

  50. Wishing in Vain

    It seems to me that he must be of the same ilk as Lynch for him to be defending him in this matter.

  51. Patrick Porter

    William Duguid

    I have just called 5 smaller hotels in Barbados at a very high long distance cost to find out they have plenty of rooms over the CWC period. So I ask again where are you gettting your figures from, and these are South Coast Hotels, I did not call any of the Gems properties as I already know their answer. Please answer my question? Are the hotels full or not full?Is the cruise ship that we are paying for full or not? The numbers seem to me to have been pulled out fo the air

  52. Straight talk

    I’d love to read it, jerome.
    But it’s 404’d

  53. Wishing in Vain

    Patrick I called west coast properties earlier today to find out that a five star property is booked at
    45 % occupancy and these people talking a load of crap

  54. Jerome Hinds

    Hello Fellow Bloggers,

    If we thought Lynch was bad……then read the 4th paragraph of the link below and see how TERRIBLE Duguid is…..!!!

    http://barbadosparliament.com/htmlarea/uploaded/File/Resolutions/Resolution_ICC

    Dr. Duguid……GOOD at DOCTORING the TRUTH…..contends that it is the BTA that borrowed the MONEY for Carnival Destiny….NOT….the Government of Barbados of which he is apart (ing) or is it…??? a part…??

    —————————————————————

    Hi Friends,

    I am resending again. If it fails click on the link in anon posting just above on this same page.

    I got the link from there.

  55. Jerome Hinds

    Thanks for providing the link also, xyz.

  56. william duguid

    It is obvious I can not win with you guys.
    I tried to give reasonable answers to your questions but it seems that you guys are not prepared to listen.

  57. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid, your last posting should have READ….UNREASONABLE lies to your questions…!!

    Answer the question….was BILLIE MILLER correct in DECLARING that the Cabinet of Barbados took the DECISION to put the Shuffler 3 man-team in place……???

  58. Wishing in Vain

    Duguid you want us to listen to your nonsense and your distorted numbers and your distorted reasoning in support of your fellow MP???
    Come on call a spade a spade and try not to distort the spade when will you lot ever tell the truth???
    You and Lynch have lied thru your teeth on this issue but I must ask do you choose to lie as you are doing in support of that Lynch ??? can you not think logically and be real and try to be honest for once in your life and put politics out of the way for truth and honesty.
    You know I would now have to look at you in a different light when you come asking for a vote very shortly as I will now rate you like all the others in your party as dishonest and untrustworthy and will find it hard to believe anything you have to say to me because of your willingness to support this lie as has been told by Lynch.
    What is this that Jerome has on you as above another blatant lie????

  59. Patrick Porter

    William duguid

    Have the guts to admit you are wrong. You can’t be wrong and strong, CWC is a big flop, I wonder how you are going to tell the public?
    Please answer this question? or are you too chicken

  60. william duguid

    The shuffler matter was before my time and I have no information on it.

  61. william duguid

    Let us wait till after the final before we pass judgement.

  62. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid, who appointed the current Chairman of the National Petroleum Corporation (NPC)….!!

    A government Minister or a Board member…???

    How the hell can the BTA board……..DICTATE to the Government of Barbados or the Minister for that matter…..!!!!

    Nitwick……!!!

  63. Wishing in Vain

    You sound almost as sick as Lynch sounded on Sunday with his I did not research that so I don’t know line, this equtes to I am not touching that hot one.
    Heard that Lynch is suing VOB are you sharing in the proceeds for your reelection bid???

  64. Wishing in Vain

    equates

  65. Wishing in Vain

    Will you have left office by this time?

  66. william duguid

    Wishing in Vain,

    It would appear or certainly you give the impression that you may be a constituent of Ch Ch West.

    From all of your posts on this site I think that you have made your mind up already irrrespective of whether I come calling for a vote or not or anything I could possibly say on this Blog.

  67. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid , says,
    March 28th, 2007 at 1:27 am
    ” The shuffler matter was before my time and I have no information on it. ”
    ——————————————————————–
    When did you become a member of the BLP….???

    The SHUFFLER matter arose after 1994….!!

    For a man who can post COPIED documents on the BLP blog ” ridiculing ” Velzo and others….WE know you LYING by saying you do not have any information….!!

    Lie ’bout these too…..!!

    william duguid, who appointed the current Chairman of the National Petroleum Corporation (NPC)….!!

    A government Minister or a Board member…???

    How the hell can the BTA board……..DICTATE to the Government of Barbados or the Minister for that matter…..!!!!

    Nitwick……!!!

  68. william duguid

    The boards of statutory corporations are appointed by the Minster Responsible for that corporation.

    That does not mean that the Minister controls the board or all of its decisions.

  69. william duguid

    I was away form Barbados during that time studying.

  70. Wishing in Vain

    Actually I considered you a sensible and a real person until today when I realised that you would back lies and untruths as you have with such vigour that it made me think that you are not what I thought you were you are no different to any of the others that you rub shoulders with in the house my advice is to try a little honesty and sincerity sometimes it works and please hold off on the lying as the truth always comes to the fore.
    You have dissapointed me in a very big way I really thought that you were an honest person but you are as much a liar as the rest of them.

  71. william duguid

    Dear Wishing in Vain

    I have told no lies here as that is not my intention or purpose. I do not call people names I just try to give a perspective on the issues as I see them.

    What issue do you consider a lie and I will try to clarify it.

  72. Wishing in Vain

    The board of Tourism, the bookings the status of the industry re arrival figures, the status of CWC. Remember this -: How will you think about it when we will have hotel rooms empty and cruise ships taking guest away from hotels that they would have stayed in had the ships not been there how can there be a shortage of hotel rooms when for the same period of the finals we have west coast hotels showing
    45 % occupancy this is a St .James very nice hotel as well ????
    YES REALLY THEY HAVE A 45 % BOOKING STATUS AND WE HAVE SHIPS IN PORT RAPING THE COUNTRY what concessions have been granted to them?
    While on the matter of CWC why did Owing increase by 100 % the Slot machines onto the island to be operated by Americans Washington and Johnson from Black entertainment TV fame with Hallam Nicholls brokering the deal for he and Owing?

  73. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid , SAYS ON ,
    March 28th, 2007 at 1:39 am

    ” The boards of statutory corporations are appointed by the Minster Responsible for that corporation. ”
    —————————————————————

    Well, well……………around the world in 80 DAYS…..!!!

    With regards to the BTA and the cruise ship Carnival Destiny…….was it the BTA board or the Government of Barbados that borrowed the money….???

    Go back up on this page and read the link from Parliament…………paragraph 4….!!

    Yuh Nitwick….!!!

    That’s name calling….!!!

    We never heard you DEFENDED Terry Ally and Harold Hoyte against yuh BOSS…..name – calling….!!!

    Chastise he FIRST……before WISHING in VAIN….!!!

  74. william duguid

    I am quite sure Mr. Hoyte is quite capable of defending himself.

  75. william duguid

    Again the BTA borrowed money and the Government guranteed the loan.

  76. Jerome Hinds

    william duguid , says on ,
    March 28th, 2007 at 1:27 am

    ” The shuffler matter was before my time and I have no information on it. ”
    ——————————————————————
    That sentence DEMONSTRATES what an INTERNECINE character you and the BLP gang are…..!!!

    1. After all Billie Miller still alive…..!!!

    2. You have BLP colleagues in Parliament who were around at the time….including yourself…!!!

    3. Being away studying does NOT excuse you….!!

    4. You chose to come and defend Noel Lynch on Tourism….so you must KNOW about what you
    ” speak “…!!

    Yet, you come with this lame – duck ” GEMMED ” induced comment….I have no information on it.

    Just like Noel Lynch did on Sunday….with regards to the GEMS project…!!!

  77. De Orginal

    Ahh William Dugid, How nice of you to appear I have one question for you and it has to do with accountability, integrity and transparency. What is the stance of your party who is the current government and have been the government for the past 12 years plus on integrity legislation? Looking forward to your response. The people of Barbados wish to know??

  78. Jerome Hinds

    anon, says on ,
    March 27th, 2007 at 11:37 pm

    the resolution to guarantee the borrowing of funds to lease the carnoval ship is at the attached e-mail address

    http://barbadosparliament.com/htmlarea/uploaded/File/Resolutions/Resolution_ICC_World_Cup_2007_$14,772,000.pdf
    ————————————————————–

    Hello Fellow Bloggers,

    If we thought Lynch was bad……then read the 4th paragraph of anon link above and see how TERRIBLE Duguid is…..!!!

    Dr. Duguid……GOOD at DOCTORING the TRUTH…..contends that it is the BTA that borrowed the MONEY for Carnival Destiny….NOT….the Government of Barbados of which he is apart (ing) or is it…??? a part…??

  79. La De Da

    Why don’t we all look at the BIG PICTURE, and that is in the end, BARBADOS will get exposure that can not be bought for all the amounts that everybody is now “nit picking” about. The benefits will last for years, and we will all forget about these arguments and “move on”.

  80. Wishing in Vain

    Fair comment La De Da but it is very difficult to overlook when a minister can blatanly lie after lie and then he expects not to be questioned, his usage of race in this discussion shows to what level we have fallen in this country.

  81. Adrian Loveridge

    Oh! Doctor Duguid…

    Why on earth did you try and defend your colleague on clearly issues that you either do not understand or are totally indefensible?

    Barbados actually has around 8,000 rooms if you include registered hotels, guest houses, apartments, villas and unregistered rooms plus home accommodation.

    Therefore to accommodate the ‘90,000 visitors that will be here for the cricket final week’ that Minister Lynch stated on Brass Tacks Sunday we would need 45,000 rooms.

    Minister Lynch also stated that there would be ‘75,000 cruise ship passengers’ which is effectively 28 times the capacity of Carnival Destiny if it were full (which it isn’t).

    Go to the GIS website ‘Million Dollar Money Resolutions for Parliament’ and you will see ‘the BTA is borrowing the money to lease cruise liner. Carnival Destiny’
    and
    ‘Prime Minister Owen Arthur will move the passing of a Resolution to the the guarantee by Government for repayment by the BTA of the principal and interest in respect of a US$14,772,000 LOAN from the Bank of Nova Scotia’.

    Especially note the words LOAN, BORROWING
    and Bank of NOVA SCOTIA.

    If it were a guarantee, then Government simply could have provided a guarantee.

    Minister Lynch ‘categorically’ denied (his words) that there was any loan by Government to charter Carnival Destiny.

    I have a verbatim recording of the programme and
    there is absolutely no question that Minister Lynch totally misled the public regarding this loan.

    On the subject of the Air India charters, as Minister Lynch lied about Carnival Destiny, can you assure the Barbadian taxpayer excactly what exposure they have in terms of marketing support and subsidies for these flights?

    Meanwhile, before you loose any further credibility I strongly suggest that you stay away from J. Walker Whisky as it seems to foster dissolutional thoughts!

  82. Adrian Loveridge

    The Indian cancellations have been pouring in.
    Yes! We might be able to keep the non-refundable deposit but that is not the point.

    If a guest does not arrive, then he/she does not take a taxi from the airport, hire a rental car, eat in one of our many restaurants, visits one of our attractions, takes an island tour, does any shopping, etc. etc.

    Get the picture?

    Did everybody, yesterday, see all the empty seats at the Sir Viv Richards Stadium in Antigua even though it was a national holiday!

  83. Jerome Hinds

    La De Da
    March 28th, 2007 at 4:40 am
    Why don’t we all look at the BIG PICTURE, and that is in the end, BARBADOS will get exposure that can not be bought for all the amounts that everybody is now “nit picking” about. The benefits will last for years, and we will all forget about these arguments and “move on”.
    ————————————————————

    La De Da, we heard the SAME abouit the World Golf Championships…….4 months later hoteliers STILL experiencing low OCCUPANCY…..!!!

    With BARNEY……hoodwinking…..the numbers never ADD up….!!!

  84. Jerome Hinds

    Right on the noney, Adrian Loveridge !

  85. Jerome Hinds

    noney SHOULD have been money.

  86. william duguid

    Bharat Army still coming
    Published on: 3/28/07.

    BELIEVE IT OR NOT, the Bharat Army (from India) is still coming, but they’re not happy about it at all.

    Despite their team not making it past the first round of the Cricket World Cup 2007, at least 6 000 Indian fans are still expected in the Caribbean, albeit “reluctantly”.

    This is according to Suranjan Cooray, manager of Travel and Tours Anywhere and business manager for the Barmy Army (England) and Bharat Army. He said while the failure of the Indian team had basically eliminated the last-minute bookings they had been expecting, those who had already booked would be coming.

    “People are upset because they [the team] have failed. We have about 6 000 people, but they are coming reluctantly. They are going to be slightly deflated. Generally the Indian market books very late. We would have had a lot of bookings from America and Britain this week, but that didn’t happen.

    “The people who have booked already, they are the ones who are coming,” Cooray said in an interview with the MIDWEEK NATION.

  87. John

    William

    Anything can happen and things can turn around and Tomorrow is always a lovely day. I sincerely believe this.

    Sometimes it is difficult and today it is kind of difficult when looking at the picture of the stands at the WI v Australia Match yesterday.

    Maybe the point that is being missed by all the hoopla of CWC and the visitors/lack thereof is that West Indians may very well not be interested in cricket as they used to be.

    Can you imagine what that means?

    We have just spent $300 million or whatever on CWC. We have a spanking new Kensington, the 3 W’s ground is pristine and all is right with the world.

    Only problem is, the long term use of the investment by the same people in whose name the investment was made may be reduced by that possible lack of interest. This ultimately will be the determining factor in deciding whether the money was well spent.

    Perhaps that is the pessimist in me and today WI will blitz Australia and West Indians will start to give a damn about cricket, like we used to.

    6000 Indian Tourists vs long term use and improvement in standards by West Indian Cricketers and people, this I think is the question.

    I know what it is to be engrossed in a cricket match and cricket in general. I am not sensing that from people with whom I come into contact.

    For myself, I no longer have the emotional investment in WI cricket that I used to. I still love the game, but it is so different now.

  88. Jupiter

    John I too ask was it worth it to spend 300 million dollars on cricket world cup when:

    1)Young people don’t seem as interested in the game

    2)The QEH,the police,the old age pensioners,Agriculture etc etc needs money injected into them.

    Chris Dehring – the caribbean newest billionaire must be smiling all the way to the bank.

  89. John

    Jupiter

    Do you realise that the investment in the 3W’s oval is at a campus which has probably 70% female enrollment?

    Don’t get me wrong, it is beautiful, and probably the right thing to do. But it has always bothered me about its long term use.

    Maybe we need to be seeing the plans on how the facilities will be utilised after world cup. The possibility exists that we will use them well and prepare our cricketers to once more play the game and win at the highest level.

    The optimist in me says this is possible.

    The realist in me says, where are the plans and why spend the money without a long term plan?

    Maybe it exists, but I wish people wouldn’t keep it so secret.

  90. Lady Anon

    Mr. Duguid…your excuse of “that was before my time” is a load of hogwash.

    Do you think that in my position as a public servant, if I am required to give an account for something I can use that excuse? No, I will have to do the research, find out what happened and make a report.

    As an elected official, representing the people of your constituency and by extension the people of Barbados, how dare you hide behind that excuse.

    Start earning the salary which we are paying you. So what if it was before your time. Do the research and give us an answer!!!!

  91. Wishing in Vain

    My Congrats must go to Adrian for a very well controlled display of power hitting on Sunday Brass Tacks, for the life of me I do not know where these people like Duguid and Lynch are from when they can lie and lie as they do instead of being honest and face up to the facts as they are, these people have made a point of defending things that are so open to public scrutiny that it makes me wonder what they are doing about the things that we cannot clearly expose in their handling of public matters and public funds they must be having a field day on that front.
    All that I will say to Lynch and Duguid is that both of you are pathetic compulsive liars when you wilfully choose to lie over the loan for Carnival Destiny when it is there for all to see in plain clear text, then you lie about arrival figures, both of you should be ashamed of yourselves, Duguid what does Lynch have on you that would compel you to join him in his lying escapades are you both cut from the same cloth and of the same ilk????

  92. Wishing in Vain

    Are we at all likely to hear anything from Owing on these matters or is he too shell shocked from his battle with David Thompson to face the press again???

  93. ??

    Anyone seen todays Nation page 3A, Bharat Army still coming

  94. Wishing in Vain

    Tell me who dictates to the Nation the political powers my friend and they publish what they are allowed to publish and never to much so to rock the boat.
    I have also seen in the Nation today where they have the tickets on EBay what is that telling you???

  95. ??

    Adrian L, where is the evidence of the Indian Cancellations Pouring in, what is your proof. My checks indicate some small cancellations but nothing dramatic at the moment. Stop trying to sensationalise an issue with fiction.

    No one could have predicted the Pakistani and Indian teams early departure from CWC2007, yes it is a disappointment and yes we will see some cancellations but really CWC starts in Barbados on April 11, not before and all in tourism knew this and from my checks bookings are quite healthy for the period.

  96. Patrick Porter

    willian duguid
    As I said I sent an e-mail to Air India last night and have back the response and I quote
    “The Air India flights are still on, but with India out of the finals, the chance of cancellation grows with time”
    So Mr. Duguid, your flights may not arrive after all. Well what are you going to do then

  97. Wishing in Vain

    What do you think is going on here-:
    Dear all,
    It appears that there are several tickets up for sale and not much demand for them (similar case on ebay).
    Not sure about everyone else, but instead of wasting these tickets we could send them to local charities on the islands, so some under privileged people / organisations can benefit from these.
    I have already sent my spare ones to:
    Guyana:
    http://www.dharmshala.org/
    Antigua:
    http://www.amazinggracefoundation.org/
    We did somethig similar in South Africa, where unused tickets were being collected in large numbers to be distributed to kids in the Townships.
    Thanks
    S

  98. Wishing in Vain

    Well tell me how wonderful the arrangements and planning has gone for CWC see below an email from someone trying to visit for CWC-:
    Correspondence with cricket logistics – shambolic LETTER WRITTEN TO CRICKET LOGISTICS
    Subject: Transport from Barbados to St Lucia
    What travel arrangements are there for the hundreds who have no way to go to St Lucia from Barbados on the Semi final match days. I have exhausted all options.
    All flights. chartered planes etc full up. We are a group of 7 and looking at the forums in the uk hundreds are with ticket for the match but
    cannot get to St Lucia from Barbados.
    Please treat this as most urgent. If nothing is arranged i am afraid at least our group would be forced to cancel our trip to the West Indies.
    REPLY

    From: “margaret Gibson”
    Kelly Jarrett
    Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:05 PM
    Subject: RE: Cricket Logistics: Transport from Barbados to St Lucia
    Good Day
    It is a difficult situation we find ourselves in – however all the airlines and the various local organizing committees are all working together to try and find a solution to make sure that as many people as possible can come and enjoy a once in a lifetime experience!
    All the regional airlines have come together and put on additional airlift to make sure that all the teams, officials, media can get between venues.
    Air Jamaica have put on special flights between Kingston, St Lucia and Barbados to try and assist people. It is true that a lot of these seats are
    filling up but as far as I know there are still seats on an Air Jamaica flight leaving St Lucia for Barbados after the game on 25 April..there is
    still plenty of accommodation available in St Lucia over the semi final.
    The Barbados tourist board is arranging a special cruise on the Carnival Destiny which covers both the St Lucia semi final and the final – you can
    get more information on this from an Official Travel Agent in your home
    country. These are all listed on http://www.cricketlogistics.com
    Every effort has been made and is being made to try and ensure that the event is a great success.
    With best regards
    Margaret

    MY RESPONSE
    Dear Margaret,
    Completely unacceptable situation. This is a disgrace. We would have never bought the tickets if we were told that there was such inadequate arrangements for such a big event. Your comment ‘All the regional airlines have come together and put on additional airlift to make sure that all the teams, officials, media can get between venues.’ is laughable. That is the very least which has to be done otherwise there would be no cricket matches. AND WHAT ABOUT THE PAYING PUBLIC. WE ARE HUNDREDS OF US IN THE UK WITH TICKETS IN HAND AND WE FEEL DUPED. You made a 30,000 seated stadium in St Lucia and there is a bottleneck in transportation. I am sorry the Maths does no add up.
    Air Jamaica have put on special flights between Kingston, St Lucia and Barbados to try and assist people’ Kudos to Air Jamaica BUT I WANT TO GO TO ST LUCIA FROM BARBADOS. THAT DOES NOT HELP ME NOR HUNDREDS HERE IN THE UK WHO ARE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS ON THE INTERNET FORUMS.
    World cup was alloted to you many years ago. HOW COME YOU ALL DID NOT FORSEE THESE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE INVESTED OUR HARD EARNED MONEY IN FLIGHTS ACCOMODATION AND WHAT HAVE YOU, ONLY TO FIND OURSELVES GETTING SHORT CHANGED AND LEAVING A VERY BITTER EXPERIENCE.
    You all should have never got the world cup in the first place. I have no options left but to cc this mail to all the global sponsors for the cricket world cup and expose the total inadequacy of arrangements to Mr. Sharad Pawar to highlight these issues. I am calling on Mr. Pawar and Mr. Malcolm Speed and Mr. Dehring to ensure that there is a penalty imposed for participating countries for not making any arrangements of sense for people who are travelling thousands of miles to attend this event.
    All this is happening whilst the The International Cricket Council (ICC) has hiked the asking price for global cricket sponsorships to $60-70 million per sponsor for the eight-year period between 2007 and 15, up from the existing $25-30 million per sponsor. Wonder how the sponsors will take it.
    Yours Sincerely,
    XXXXX
    THIS COPY WAS MARKED TO SHARAD PAWAR, MALCOLM SPEED, THE 4 MAIN SPONSORS OF THIS TOURNAMENT, HUTCH, HEROHONDA, LG AND PEPSI – ALL INDIAN SPONSORS AND Mr. DEHRING

  99. Lady Anon

    What about a ferry service? Is it too late to get something organised?

  100. ??

    Are you only now trying to get seats?

    I know there are issues I have friends in St. Lucia who have finals tickets but no airline tickets.

  101. Wishing in Vain

    Cool it, all is well folks so said the minister of tourism.

  102. Adrian Loveridge

    ??
    You are still missing the point.
    Even if Barbados is FULL (every hotel) between 11 and 28th April (forget the semi-finals and the week inbetween for a minute), the loss in revenue is still going to be also impossible to get back from a below normal occuancy rate of four or five weeks of our peak winter season.

    Nice to see that David Ellis, started todays programme with an admission that the loan to charter the Carnival Destiny of US$14,772,000 from Bank of Nova Scota exists and it was proposed in Parliament by the Prime Minister.

    Perhaps Minister Lynch was sleeping or is he now going to deny the PM said it?

  103. Wishing in Vain

    Our Tourism industry is taking a battering from overseas see below-:
    Barbados- Hotel Fraud
    I had booked South Gap hotel in July 2006 for April 07 for 15 nights. They issued me a confirmed reservation voucher and deducted 15% of the reservation amount as deposit. When I e-mailed me last week, they changed the rates on me and increased it 65%. I told them about the reservation number & voucher, they had it in the system. But, the manager plead ignorance to rates quoted on the voucher saying the she was not there at the time reservation was issued. It felt almost like someone was putting a gun to my head and saying pay the higher rate or take a hike. We are 2 families travelling and were forced to give up our 2 studios and find a cheaper alternative. I have brought this to Barbados tourism dept, but dont think this will get resolved.
    ++++
    Can imagine you being gutted about that, but to be honest this doesn’t come as any surprise to me…hotel prices have tripled due to WC. At the moment hearing from plenty of people about issues with regards to travel between the different venues etc.
    ++++
    They tried the same thing on our group by escalating prices despite as having an invoice and rental agreement.
    I had contacted Barbados embassy and tourism authority and it was willing to threaten to dercognise their company from all tourism boards and the also said they were willing to investigate this matter with the police. They did not want barbados to have a bad image, specially from a lucrative market like the uk.
    When I communicated this with the villa owner, it worked.

  104. Wishing in Vain

    Where are the jokers like Duguid and Lynch to read these reports as above???
    What we are going to suffer from is the long term damage that this price gouging will do to the way people see the tourism industry and the way that it is run in Barbados when a hotel like Grand Barbados can triple their normal rates for this period I think that is immoral and downright dishonest, but so to is the minister so maybe they are only taking his example.

  105. vortex

    Duguid says he doesn’t call people names? But I heard him call the DLP parliamentarians “Brokeback Mountaineers” in the Budget debate. He was made to withdraw it.

    I thought they should give a break. He tries so hard to be viewed as intelligent and respectable in the face of Kerrie Symmonds’ attempts to destabilise his life!

    Ignore Mr. Duguid because he has been found wanting too many times of this site and in the House.

  106. Chase

    Even if you get an Air Jamaica flight from Barbados to St.Lucia,does this flight land in Castries?
    Last time I was there …Vieux Forte to Rodney bay aint easy.

  107. Patrick Porter

    Wishing in Vain

    When I worked in Barbados, I said many yeaars ago that the hotels in Barbados gouged people. I was told that tourists would always come, look what has happened over the last few years. We need to get our pricing right, and not be seen as the most expensive destination in the Caribbean. The Government is promoting Barbados as a high class destination, but the number of rich who come to Barbados are dropping as time goes by. Barbados needs to revamp it’s whole tourism sector, and I am afraid the present government is not the one to do it, they are out of ideas and use outdated techniques. They are morally bandkrupt and vision bankrupt, so they are not the ones to lead the counry into new tourism markets. It happens in all governments after awhile they get stale and don’t perform, that is why it is good to change them every 2 terms
    Barbados needs that change now

  108. Wishing in Vain

    New Policy Re Comments

    The bulk of this comment was removed because the writer – Wishing In Vain – turned it into a highly innuendo-laced piece speculating on whether or not certain Members of Parliament have sex with their own gender.

    Although we haven’t really been on top of this issue or spoken on this issue before, we are now… because such comments are taking the focus off the stated objectives of this blog. Bajans will talk and gossip – and we let all sorts of things that we don’t personally like slide by in the comments because we don’t want to limit the flow of communication.

    But this theme of “biting” and highly sexual innuendo is changing the mood of the blog and detracting from our work.

    It will stop.

    Marcus

  109. Fred

    New Policy Re Comments

    The bulk of this comment was removed because the writer turned it into a highly innuendo-laced piece speculating on whether or not certain Members of Parliament have sex with their own gender.

    Although we haven’t really been on top of this issue or spoken on this issue before, we are now… because such comments are taking the focus off the stated objectives of this blog. Bajans will talk and gossip – and we let all sorts of things that we don’t personally like slide by in the comments because we don’t want to limit the flow of communication.

    But this theme of “biting” and highly sexual innuendo is changing the mood of the blog and detracting from our work.

    It will stop.

    Marcus

  110. ??

    Adrian, I am not missing the point… you were misleading with your statement on Indian cancellations and should be man enough to admit it. I understand your argument, and do not entirely disagree. What I do not like and will always be critical of is sensationalism to make a point especially when the information is Fiction.
    There are people who swallow everything you say as gospel, and depend on you to get their point across, do not loose their trust to score cheap points.

  111. Adrian Loveridge

    I don’t think I have been misleading at all.
    But don’t take my word for it, why don’t YOU call some of the hotels.

    Try Tamarind, Bougainvillea, Treasure Beach, Turtle Beach and Crystal Cove first.

    Turtle Beach staff are one week on, one week off.

    Also just had a call to say that the Air India charters have been cancelled.
    I have NOT had this re-confirmed but would appreciate BFP readers for their help in confirming this is the situation.

  112. No - Name

    I SAY BOYCOTT THE NATION LIKE WE HAVE BOYCOTTED THE ADVOCATE!!

    And maybe we should boycott VOB and have BFP set up an internet radio where we can really freely express our views and ask any question we wish!

    Harold and Ellis are both loyal BLP supporters. I do not trust either of them when it comes to the BLP.

    If we can’t depend on the press for the truth why should we support them? Both the Nation and the Advocate protect BLP Politicians. Harold knows that his staff complained Vehemently about angry calls from Arthur.

    Fellow bloggers do not underestimate the impact that we have. The BLP does not like free speech. Owen said that people were talking foolishness of the call in programmes and Mia, if she had her way would ban them all.

    When the information on the money laundering comes out we should bombard all Permanent Secretaries, heads of departments, politicians, priests ……everybody in Government with emails on the article. Care must be taken to structure the email in such a way that legal action cannot be taken against the sender.

  113. Patrick Porter

    Adrian Loveridge

    As I said in a previous post I called 5 South Coast Hotels and they have plenty of rooms over the CWC period. I think one Hotel told me that they had more than 50% of their rooms open and I could get summer rates if I booked then and there. Things are not great in the state of Denmark and things stink as well and it ain’t the fish. The Hotels are suffering and there is no doubt about that. So lets wait and see the Ministers response after the CWC