Author Ayann Hirsi Ali Argues With Fox News’ Colmes & Guts Him Like Fish
On February 6, 2007 Ayaan Hirsi Ali went on Fox News Hannity & Colmes to talk about her book Infidel. (Ed: For background on Ali, see BFP’s article Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s Biography: Infidel)
I wrote out what she said and here it is. You can clic on the picture or here and watch her tell the truth about what is “radical” and what is “normal” in the Koran.
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Colmes: The new Fox News Channel documentary “Radical Islam: Terror In Its Own Words” takes viewers inside the world of Muslim terrorists waging war against the West. Joining us now the author of Infidel, Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Thank you very much for being here with us.
You say you renounced your faith after nine eleven?
Colmes: Is that correct? Why must those who misuse the faith because they are radicals, and may not even be observing the faith as its meant to be observed, dictate your own faith?
Ali: I’m afraid that’s not the truth. I’m afraid the Islamic faith has not gone through the reformation and through enlightenment and that it is the faith – that is as it is. I, after Bin Laden, after nine eleven I started to download the documents of Bin Laden and I started to hold them up against the Koran and Hadith…
Colmes: But is that true Islam?
Ali: Yes. I was shocked to discover that was true Islam.
But that doesn’t have to mean the end of Islam. What Muslims can do is not renounce Islam like I have done. I mean that was just for private reasons, but what they can do is acknowledge that what Bin Laden is saying is correct, but that belongs to the seventh and eighth century and not in the twenty-first century.
Colmes: But at one point four billion people, I mean I find it very pessimistic, around that number who practice Islam in the world today. Are you suggesting that all those people are radicals or believe what Bin Laden claims Islam is? Don’t most of those people want a peaceful world?
Ali: I’m not saying that all of them are radicals. I’m saying Muslims are varied, but I’m saying that Islam has as its basic tenants, um, elements that are not compatible with liberal democracy – and that if you want to wage war against non-Muslims, in this case the West, that you will find enough ammunition within Islam. But Muslims are varied and can be presuaded otherwise…
Hannity: This is an amazing book. You’re at risk. You feel your life is at risk having written this book.
Ali: Yes. Not only this book. It was at risk before I wrote it…
Hannity: Right, why? Why?
Ali: Because I have left the faith. You see, I have become an apostate. In Islam you cannot, unlike Catholicism and Judaism say ‘I no longer want to believe what’s in the Koran. I no longer want to follow the prophet Mohamed.’ If you do that, somebody is apt to think…
Ali: The reason is from the Koran that by killing me, he will surely go to Heaven.
Hannity: I want you to explain… Your life is fascinating, in the short a period of time we have, you, and what you lived under yourself. When you grew up and living under, growing up in Islam.
Ali: I lived in a tribal society, in a clan society. I lived… Islam was, I mean my religion was in every, you know, it was not just like the Catholics going to church on Sunday, but it was there every day, every day, every minute. And it is what I would … call it a Medieval society if you compare it to, for example, the United States.
Hannity: And more particularly, you have been outspoken for women’s rights. Explain.
Ali: Women, Muslim women are not allowed, not all of them of course, but most of them – they don’t own their bodies. They are forced into marriage or persuaded into marriage. Not sent to school or removed early on from school, undergo female genital mutilation, which in itself is not an Islamic practice but many Muslims practice. Its just not the same, as I describe in the book, the same as living in…
Hannity: Well, the book is phenominal and it really is an eye-opener and I congratulate you on the courage to speak out…
Colmes: Thanks very much for being with us tonight. Thanks for your time… (video ends)