Barbados Prime Minister Arthur and BLP General Secretary Dr. William Duguid – Standup Comedians Supreme!

Monty Python could not have done any better…

After 12 years of the BLP in power, and 12 years of failing to introduce any Conflict of Interest or public integrity legislation – despite a majority government – Dr. William Duguid, the General Secretary of the Barbados Labour Party, had this to say about the recent arrest of former Trinidad & Tobago Prime Minister Basdeo Panday…

BLP general secretary Dr William Duguid said his party held to the highest ideals and principles and believed the greatest of integrity should come with serving at the highest level.

He said it was not about what the country could do for politicians, but what they could do for the country.

"This is what we hold dear to in the BLP and we are appalled to see that others do not hold dear to that as well."

As a guess, I have no doubt that Dr. Duguid's favourite Monty Python episodes would have to be The Upper Class Twit Olympics and the Dead Parrot.

Prime Minister Owen Arthur Also Does Comedy Routine About Panday Conviction…

Oh my…this is just tooooo much! We have tears rolling down our cheeks. Shona is hyper-ventilating. Clive is practically on the floor…

Will somebody PLEASE sign these guys up for the BBC Comedy Hour?

The Prime Minister of Barbados says that he never introduced Integrity Legislation because Barbadian Politicians On All Sides Have Been Honest….

"It is one of those things that have been on the backburner. Quite frankly, it has gone on the backburner . . . . Not being facetious, the kind of corruption you hear about in other places, I don't truly believe is the case in Barbados.

"There are people who have become wealthy, whether in politics, but very often those are people who are not part of the Government.

"I am not offering an excuse here, but the edge has gone off it because our system works too, and I believe that by and large the Barbadian politicians on all sides have been honest.

"I can't swear because I'm dealing with human nature, but I think you will find that most former ministers are not people who accumulate wealth through politics.

"Most former prime ministers of Barbados, I must tell you – prime ministers of Barbados as a class – have not been wealthy people, either in office or out of office.

"The Barbadian people can't say that their leaders have 'dipped in', that is true. They live modest lives, and have lived in a way that would suggest to the public that there is no 'gouging' by themselves for personal gain.

"And those kinds of things have taken the edge off (integrity legislation), and you are right that we will have to look at it again. Because anything that can make the system work can only but give the population the comfort that if people stray, that they will have to be held accountable. I think it could only be to the good.

"I don't want to get into instant policy, I haven't discussed it with my colleagues. I think this is going to stimulate interest in matters such as these. It will help politicians too, you know, because you live always under a cloud of suspicion, and if people were made to know what our circumstances are, a lot of that cloud would evaporate," Arthur said. From The Nation News.

"I don't want to get into instant policy, I haven't discussed it with my colleagues…"

Oh no, Mr. Prime Minister, we wouldn't want you to get into INSTANT POLICY. Perhaps another 12 years will be necessary to think about it just a little more? Sure. We understand.

We Call Upon Prime Minister Owen Arthur To Reveal All Offshore Bank Accounts and Assets.

Publicly. Right now, Mister Prime Minister. Or sit down and shut up about integrity.

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32 responses to “Barbados Prime Minister Arthur and BLP General Secretary Dr. William Duguid – Standup Comedians Supreme!

  1. Jane Goddard

    This might be a good place to start.
    Transparency International TI, National Integrity Systems Questionnaire, Caribbean Composite Study 2004 – see Barbados is on page 76

    Click to access carib_compos_q.pdf

  2. Pingback: Barbados Free Press » Blog Archive » Barbados Labour Party To Introduce Integrity Legislation By 1976

  3. John

    There is no excuse for politicians in Barbados to now claim that drafting of integrity legislation will take time.

    The good thing about CSME, thanks to our PM, is that we can use the legislation verbatim from Trinidad. We know it works!!

    Unfortunately they released Mr. Panday on bail. Perhaps the legislation needs to be improved to put into effect what the Chinese do when they release their Pandays, a satellite location collar and full innoculations.

    http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/bigpic.jsp?cap=panda&id=3

    (Sorry, feeble attempt at a joke, could not resist the coincidence of the anniversary of the release of Mr. Panday with the release into the wild of a Giant Panda!! )

  4. John

    Sorry, just my luck the link won’t work properly. Here is some of the text.

    A crowd looks on as Xiang Xiang, a 4-year-old male panda raised at the Wolong Giant Panda Research Center, is released to the wild at Dengshenggou in Wolong, in southwest China’s Sichuan Province Friday April 28, 2006. It is the first time a panda raised in captivity has been released into the wild in China. Xiang Xiang will be tracked by a global positioning device attached to a collar. (AP Photo/Color China Photo) ** CHINA OUT **

    The story is in the Nation of the 29th April, 2006 at page 13. It says in the nation he has been a number of innoculations and a full physical checkup.

  5. william duguid

    I am not familiar with the Monty Python episodes you suggest should be my favorites but I do know that Integrity legislation was brought to the parliament by a BLP administration and rejected by the then DLP opposition.

  6. John

    William

    How did that happen?

    What was the vote and who opposed it?

    Lets have the scoundrels.

  7. ross

    William,
    “Integrity legislation was brought to the parliament by a BLP administration and rejected by the then DLP opposition”.
    You’re joking, right?
    REJECT integrity legislation? So that is the end of the story.

    The only reason for anyone to reject integrity legislation is that they have something to hide.

  8. william duguid

    In the parliament which preceded the 1976 elections, on the urging of the then Opposition Leader J.M.G.M. Adams, a select committee of the House was agreed to, but because of lack of participation by the then governing Democratic Labour Party (DLP) MPs, the committee was not able to assemble a quorum.

    That committee died a natural death with the prorogation of that Parliament.

    Check NationNews.com April 27th 2006

  9. william duguid

    Another interesting aspect to your blog site which you have posted is that you believe that you should remain annonymous to be able to speak freely on this site in response to a question posted by Adrian about who owns this site. Do you not think that with the greatest view on integrity the public should know who owns and operates this site in the same way that the public may want integrity legislation for public officials. Would it not show that you at (BFP) are prepared to stand up to the same standards as those you profess should be implemented. We are not asking for the networth of you and all your family. Just a simple truthful name or names.

  10. ross

    William,
    You’re joking again, right?
    What do you need names for? You want addresses and car numbers, too? You think people stupid?
    There is no correlation between integrity legislation and the owner of a blog site.
    Integrity legislation is a serious thing.
    Then again, it looks like this site is a serious thing too.
    BFP keep up the good work.

  11. John

    So William,

    Your first statement was incorrect, the DLP was not in opposition, the BLP was. It seemed impossiple that a government in power could be diverted from its earnestly held belief in the pursuit of a principle by an opposition so I had to ask.

    I guess you are telling me in an oblique way it was those DLP scoundrels who were to blame back then. Correct me if I am wrong.

    So remind me how the committee died a natural death after Parliament was pro-ROGUEd.?

    Who were the rogues after 1976 who let that happen and diverted the BLP from its earnestly held belief in the pursuit of a principle?

  12. william duguid

    Those DLP Rogues

  13. william duguid

    Have a look at this blog I setup and tell me what you think.
    http://labour-party.blogspot.com/

  14. william duguid

    Absolutely right John after I read the blog I reserched it further. I guess I thought the BLP was in power because it is rare for the opposition to even get a bill to parliament so I thought it was when we were in opposition . You must excuse me but I was just 9 at the time.

  15. william duguid

    Sorry i thought it was when we were in Government but infact we were in opposition at the time

  16. John

    Spoken like a true politician.

    Guess you must be the real McCoy.

    Ok, lets try and work out what really happened over the past 30 odd years.

    There was a good article in the Nation on the last Sunday in April I think.

    Names are named.

    I will look for it at home when I get a chance and see what it said about the DLP’s action 1971-76 and then the BLP’s actions after.

    I think it is a good place to start.

    Of course it will be mild but nonetheless its a good start.

    I tried to find the article on line at Nation News but unfortunately for some reason it just wasn’t there.

    Looks like I will have to do some typing to get in the various quotes.

    See if you can find yours and we’ll figure out what happened logically using this as a start.

    I lived and watched Tom Adams cut Errol Barrow and the DLP to shreds. I remember the North Point, the mysterious cheques, the Duffus Commission and so on.

    And yet something went horribly wrong after 1976.

    Actions just did not match words. But people tell me it is just politics.

    It happened in 1961 when the DLP swept away the BLP with their new brooms. No doubt the BLP was just as corrupt and arrogant then as the DLP was in 1976.

    I am speaking as a citizen who is not interested in new brooms, old talk …. nothing so.

    I just want to know that my representative is honest and has his or her own beliefs and principles and has earned people’s respect on merit, not because of Party membership.

    We are stuck with the party system but I plan on voting against BLP until DLP or PEP gets in, whereupon I will start voting for which ever other party is in opposition. Might be BLP.

    If along the way I find a representative that meets the basic, simple requirements I have, he/she will get my vote on merit.

    I have no problem with an independent.

  17. BFP

    This is turning into a great discussion folks… and like John, I’d just like an honest man or woman to represent my interests and Barbados over personal interests and gain.

    But until we put the necessary controls and monitoring in place – and criminalize the behaviour we are talking about – good men and women will continue to get into the political system and find themselves corrupted.

    When there are no rules… the ordinary person cannot be strong enough to resist. Let’s fix the system….

    … and, Mr. Prime Minister – let’s have a full disclosure of your foreign assets and bank accounts!

  18. John

    Sanka Price’s article in the Nation on the 30th april, 2006 is entitled:

    “ALL TALK ON INTEGRITY LAW”
    “HEATED HOUSE DEBATES OVER 35 YEARS”

    Here is what he says to begin the piece. Hope I quote him correctly. Apologies Sanka for typos.

    “The integrity of those in public life will be under greater scrutiny as a result of the conviction of Trinidad and Tobago’s former Prime Minister, Basdeo Panday, for making false declarations to Trinidad and Tobago’s Integrity Commission.

    As Prime Minister Owen Arthur said. Panday’s conviction damages the image of Caribbean politicians, and could revive calls for Integrity Legislation here. If these calls do come, it would rekindle an issue that has been raised intermittently for 35 years.

    The history over the introduction of Integrity Legislation in Barbados has been controversial and sparked heated debates in the House of Assembly”.

    This is the article to which I am referring. It takes the reader step by step through the history of Integrity Legislation in Barbados.

    Next 1971-1976!! …… but I need to do some work at the moment.

  19. william duguid

    I was also looking for that article but I could not get it to come up on Nation News. I am sorry you feel that you must always vote for an opposition John and I understand where you are coming from but I tend to be a more pragmatic solution and that means trying to be part of the solution rather than adding to the problem.
    I have problems with Government too. I find it moves way too slow and good oppourtunities are missed.
    I find there is way too much red tape and inertis to get things done and it is rare that even after you move an alternative view in a particular area it is seldom accepted by the establishment until years later when the damage has been done or the oppoutunity gone.

    I think I am an honest poltician. Yes I tow the party line when i have too in public. In private we have very hot arguments and disagreements.
    If I am odds I say nothing in public.

    Sometime it is not easy but at the end of the day I truly do not believe that any of the present members B or D have come to public life without a genuine interest of improving the welfare of the people in their district, because without you simply could not survive.

  20. John

    William

    Do you know there are actually voters who will not vote because of apathy?

    Don’t feel bad about my plight. I am really very comfortable knowing what the purpose of my vote is and being able to articulate it so simply. If you only knew how long it took me to figure it out.

    The only time I could possibly have a problem is when there is more than one representative who meets my requirements.

    I won’t always vote opposition. I just will do so until my representative meets my three basic, simple requirements – honest, principled and sticks to his/her beliefs…. and I need to see/hear evidence.

    Ok ok, I guess that means I will always vote opposition, but I still have hope although it is said ” hope springs eternal in the …..!!”

    I am concerned about your willingness to remain silent.

    Silence means history will not record your contribution.

    Silence means for instance that I can only find three politicians who actually have actually expressed what their view on going to Greenland. These are:

    Sir Henry Forde – Bring it into the open. If there are mistakes, admit them

    George Payne – Environmental Madness

    Liz Thompson – I always knew it was wrong.

    What is your position on Greenland?

    For or against … and why?

    Don’t tell us Greenland will open because Mangrove Pond will close.

    Tell us what you believe should happen.

    I’ll take your silence to mean you are at odds with it.

    I’ll get back to the article tomorrow.

    That Sanka Price fellow really did his country a service by articulating the position taken by Parliament on Integrity Legislation over the years.

    I need some sleep.

    You know some time down the road I am going to ask you what is your position on Integrity Legislation ….. just so you know.

  21. william duguid

    In the beginning i was opposed to Greenland however we have been informed after the site was studied for the years that have passed That It will be safe and pose no unexpected burden on the environment, other than what a landfill would ordinarily cause. I now believe that once adequately and properly managed it should provide an alternative to Mangrove where the people have suffered for years.

    Integrity legislation I agree with in principle but like with the consitutution reform I have to see the bill first. If it is just for politicians I can not agree. I believe that all the civil servants customs officers and policemen and the like would all have to surrender annual information on their assets.

  22. John

    Thank you for responding.

    With regards to Greenland, ask CBC for a DVD of the public lecture given by Professor Hans Machel on February 22nd this year and have a look. It is great viewing. It will help you understand how the Scotland District works.

    Perhaps CBC could air it as a public service to Barbadians, your constituents included.

    We may have some common ground on Integrity Legislation. Good.

    One more question before I get back to the article as I promised. It is on the same issue of Integrity Legislation.

    I notice the Chief Justice in Trinidad has been asked to resign. An extract from the Nation of today is given below.

    “On Tuesday Prime Minister Patrick Manning told Sharma to resign or face charges with attempting to interfere in the recent trial of United National Congress (UNC) founder and former prime minister Basdeo Panday.

    A defiant Sharma, however, yesterday protested his innocence of the charges being levelled against him by Chief Magistrate Sherman McNicolls, insisting that he would not be “hounded out of office, or bullied by the Executive into resigning when there is absolutely no justification for doing so”.

    When Our CJ was appointed in 2002 there was uproar as it appeared to most people to be a politically partisan appointment. Most people just accepted they could do nothing in the face of the will of the PM.

    What was your position on the appointment?

  23. ross

    “all the civil servants customs officers and policemen and the like”.
    Does this include the judiciary and the CJ?

  24. william duguid

    Yes Every one in public office would be required to submit to the legislation.
    With respect to the apointment first let me say I know the man well and I consider him to be of the highest morals and values and the best person for the job. Second whether we like it or not we must understand that this is a very small society and our human resource with respect to the appropriately qualified people for such highly specialised positions is not vast.

    I do understand the sentiment but I still think he was the best man for the job at the time and I am not sure that the other possible candidiates would have been able to handle the position that is to say they neede a little more experience.

    How can I get my blog listed on BFP it is http://labourparty.wordpress.com

  25. BFP

    Hello Mr. Duguid

    I’m sure that everyone will welcome a link to your blog in our permanent list – and we have already been talking about this at work. But by our agreement we have to discuss new links at the weekly meeting so I can’t add you before then.

    Expect to see it up late saturday or perhaps Sunday afternoon.

    Robert

  26. william duguid

    Thanks. I am also interested in doing an online poll maybe using your blog I will advertise it . how can this be done.

  27. BFP

    Hi Doc

    Didn’t notice your last comment about an online poll.

    Just tell us when it is up and we will do a little piece about it.

    Cliverton

  28. william duguid

    How Can I email you

  29. william duguid

    barbadosfreepress (At) yahoo.com is this it.
    got it I assume this means @ not (at)

  30. BFP

    Yes, we just use “at” instead of “@” to keep the automatic robots from gathering our email address. They will spam you to death.

  31. BFP

    Hi Doc

    We received something – an email – in the bulk folder about a Barbados Survey… is that yours?

    I thought you would be establishing a survey on your blog. No one will reply to an emailed survey… because such surveys tend to gather email addresses and other information from the host computer.

    There are several survey options that work with WordPress, and then your participants don’t have to worry about trojans etc. and… every visitor to your blog is offered an opportunity to complete a survey on an anonymous basis.

    Cliverton

  32. william duguid

    How does thie work.
    Please send me the info to my email will99@caribsurf.com
    Ps i have tried it on the blog with the other one got 15 responses in 2 days.