Why So Many Black Fatherless Babies? Jesse Jackson: Government Is Responsible – vs – Barack Obama: Fathers Need To Be Responsible

Updated: March 10, 2010

In light of Dan Rather’s recent and unbelievable “watermelon” comments about President Obama, for a few days BFP will repost this July 11, 2008  article about Jessie Jackson’s Obama comments – and the differences between Jackson and Obama on the subject of individual responsibility…

Original article…

Barbados Could Learn A Lesson From The “Cut Off Obama’s Nuts” Fight

A few days ago, Jesse Jackson was caught on an open microphone saying that Presidential Candidate Barack Obama “talked down to black people”. Jackson said “I want to cut his nuts off”. (BFP article here)

Now we know the reason for Jackson’s rage…

It seems that Mr. Obama told a group of his fellow citizens that fathers should be more than one night stands. That men should be more responsible for their own actions and if they did this we wouldn’t have so many unwed black mothers. If black men would be responsible for their children, we wouldn’t have a situation where over 50% of black children grow up without a father.

Mr. Obama also said “Children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime; nine times more likely to drop out of schools, and 20 times more likely to end up in prison.”

Jackson Explains Himself – Outrageous!

In apologising for his outburst, Jesse Jackson stated how his position on black fatherless families differed from Obama’s…

It is the government’s fault!

“My appeal was for the moral content of [Obama's] message to not only deal with the personal and moral responsibility of black males, but to deal with the collective moral responsibility of government and the public policy which would be a corrective action for the lack of good choices that often lead to their irresponsibility.” … Jesse Jackson

“Leaders” Like Jackson Undermine Black Society

Jesse Jackson’s position that it is the government’s fault that so many black people are not sexually responsible and that black men drop babies here and there – wherever black women let them.

Yes sir… according to Jackson, we darkies can’t keep our private parts to ourselves and it is not our fault. It is the government’s fault that we darkies breed so indiscriminately.

And if that sounds racist – it is. Mr. Jackson’s position is inherently racist, but we let him and so many other black leaders get away with telling our people and our young people that their choices in life are not their responsibility because they are black.

If a white person had of made the same comments about black fathers or about wanting to castrate Obama there would have been hell to pay. But we take it from Jesse Jackson because he once cradled a dying Martin Luther King Jr. long ago in Memphis, Tennessee. We take it from other black so-called “leaders” because the mantra of “Guvment’s fault – Guvment fix it” has been drilled into the young people for decades – both in the USA and in Barbados.

Barbados Needs A Barack Obama

On Barbados we have our own Jesse Jacksons who make excuses for all kinds of bad choices by young black people. We have our own Jesse Jacksons who tell our children and our people to lower their expectations for themselves and each other.

Barbados needs more Obamas and fewer Jacksons. Barbados needs fewer leaders who are “baby fathers” themselves.

Further Reading

New York Daily News: Jesse Jackson: Relic

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46 responses to “Why So Many Black Fatherless Babies? Jesse Jackson: Government Is Responsible – vs – Barack Obama: Fathers Need To Be Responsible

  1. Jason

    “Barbados needs fewer leaders who are “baby fathers” themselves.”

    I wonder who BFP is thinking about here? ;-)

  2. 123.456.789.0

    now..how do we reverse this and blame the white man?

    Cave Hill? – over to you!

  3. Bimbro

    We can learn to ignore Jackson, who speaks like he’s an ex-prize-fighter!! Obviously, his brain’s gone, as well!!

  4. Kay

    I am glad that you said people and not just men because while it is often easy to blame the men, the women are just as much at fault. Starting with mothers, some like they only have children to hold on to a man for awhile until another comes along, or for child support. They should be teaching the young to respect themselves and each other.

  5. Beefcake

    The problem with Jesse Jackson is that he is completely envious of Barrack Obama.

    Jackson has run for nomination several times (at least twice) on the Democratic ticket and has fared horribly. Here is the first successful man of colour to achieve what he could not.

    He needs to feel wanted by African-Americans… but is afraid of becoming more irrelevant.

  6. Kay

    JJ has foot in mouth disease. This is a perfect example, he opens his mouth and his foot drops straight in.

  7. reality check

    What a refreshing change!!!

    A politician that doesn’t blame others and doesn’t use others to leverage his or her power from the dispossessed.

    Its called leadership.

    How things have changed, at least in the US.

  8. Local lady

    I applaud Senator Obama for his comments and it’s also a subject that Bill Cosby has been bringing to the public attention for a number of years. However, raising children with both parents as part of a family unit is something that all of us can commit to and for which we should all be responsible, for the sake of our children’s future – irrespective of race or creed.

  9. Bimbro

    The problem with ‘raising children with both parents as part of a family unit’ is that BOTH parents have to desire this which, very often is n’t the case. Men are n’t ALWAYS the guilty party.

  10. Inkwell

    On this subject, check out the op-ed article written this morning in the New York Times by Charles Blow here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/12/opinion/12blow.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin

    The stats provided by the US Census Bureau surely indicate a failing in us blacks as a race that needs to be addressed.

    I ask the question. Is this failing innate in our psyche as a race or is it the legacy of slavery?

    ******************

    BFP says,

    As far as I am concerned it is all about absent fathers, and single uneducated girls having more single uneducated girls having more single uneducated girls… all trying to raise young men on their own without a caring educated father.

  11. Thomas Gresham

    I think it is a legacy of slavery. The problem is less severe in many countries in Africa. But while that can help to understand the problem it does not excuse it. We have to create our own different and better legacies. We will only cast off the legacy of slavery if we no longer use it to protect ourselves form individual responsibility.

    However much we must applaud the single parent who does his or her best, the circumstances that contribute to single parenthood, like early child birth for one, should be discouraged. But whatever society and government may do to help, we each have individual responsibilities in this area. I think Obama – one of the most intelligent politicians I have ever come across – is right to raise the issue of individual responsibility. I am tempted to say, “yes we can”, but that would be corny.

  12. anon

    This kind of bulls**t misrepresentation of Jackson’s position is the reason why I don’t read this blog more.

    Jackson is wrong on many counts, but “blaming the government” is not one of them.

    You should be ashamed!

    *********************

    BFP says,

    But…. you still do read this blog anymore! :-)

  13. B A F BFP

    Kay makes sense. Women are just as much to blame. And JJ could have gone further and include the media, that irresponsible collective of egomaniacs, whether news or entertainment contributing to the plight of the ‘minority’ males. Obamma is a ‘gifted’ academic and orator (with looks), he struck the jackpot at birth irrespective of where he was born, not so for the overwhelming majority of other males of any colour.

  14. Inkwell

    Having come to the conclusion that this failing is the legacy of slavery, we can also conclude that the negro race is collectively suffering from a form of PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder).

    When this is diagnosed in modern day patients, they are given psychiatric treatment, but the black race has never been given any such treatment since the abolition of slavery. The fact that this is impractical does not negate its validity.

    The effect of “non treatment” is further exacerbated by the fact that elements of the original “stress” still afflict large sections of the black race to this day.

    It is easy to say “Get over it”, but the doing is far from easy without help or a smoothing of the way. Maybe we should be congratulating ourselves for doing as well as we have.

    ******************

    BFP says,

    I am of the opinion that this “PTSD” was almost licked in the 1950’s and 1960’s with strong black families and communities. This business of no fathers is a relatively new social development in North American urban black culture. Many believe that the extending of welfare benefits to unwed mothers in the 1960’s rather than relying upon orphanages and extended family (which had been the case up to that time) was probably the most destructive blow ever given to the traditional two parent family structure.

    See… I was awake at least one day in class!

    Cliverton

  15. Inkwell

    Well, make up your mind, BFP. You are in fact agreeing with Jesse Jackson…It’s the Guv’ment’s fault.

    Your reply should of course be “Touche”.

  16. BFP

    Not touche as far as Jackson is concerned… because he believes in more welfare, more support and more government programmes… His position is that there are never enough programmes and money going from the government.

    Welfare has become slavery. Welfare has destroyed black families (and families in general) and changed the values of blacks for the worse.

    And then there is B.E.T. that has taught a generation of young black women that it is ok to dress and act like a whore.

    There are many factors assaulting young people from many sides, but in the end we as individuals make our choices. We are responsible.

    It is a lesson that Jackson forgot if he ever knew it at all.

  17. Inkwell

    Jackson’s heart is in the right place, but sometimes, unfortunately, he gets his ass and his mouth mixed up.

  18. Centipede

    There is always an evasion… a ‘reason,’ it’s the governments fault, society’s fault, “my great grand father was beaten up by a white plantation owner,” ad infinitum, etc.

  19. Bimbro

    Black people are lost, it’s as simple as that, or at least, afro caribbeans and afro americans. False vanity has addled our brains to what’s truly important in life!! There was a wonderful, historical series about the Jews on British tv many years ago, called ‘The Lost Tribe’. The title can equally well, if not more so, be applied to ‘our people’!!

    From Rastas to Ballheads to dirty-dancing, it’s plain for all to see!!!!

  20. Bimbro

    BFP says,

    As far as I am concerned it is all about absent fathers, and single uneducated girls having more single uneducated girls having more single uneducated girls… all trying to raise young men on their own without a caring educated father.

    ************************

    BFP, you hope to become the govt., one day, so what would be your solution to the problem?

  21. B A F BFP

    I wid BFP. Can you imagine that? And I wid Kay too.
    Please remember the experience of the Aboriginal children in Canada and Australia up to very recently, when they were taken from their parents and relocated to boarding homes and homes of White families for assimilation. Invariably that meant to be trained as domestics. Similar things must have taken place in New Zealand, South America and the US. But the point is that ‘New World’ Governments can be blamed and are to be blamed for a great deal of the plight that minorities find themselves in. It is known now that addictive drugs were imported into the ghettos in the 60’s and 70’s via the CIA in an effort to target and disrupt Black families. Heck, NA Indians were fed a constant diet of cheap liquor to keep their males happy while the rest of the world moved on.

  22. I Wid BFP

    Remember the Aboriginal children in Canada and Australia up to very recently, when they were taken from their parents and relocated to boarding schools and homes of settler families for assimilation? The word ‘assimilation’ is translation for training as domestics. Similar things must have taken place in New Zealand, South America and the US. ‘New World’ Governments can be blamed and are to be blamed for a great deal of the plight that minorities find themselves in. It is known now that addictive drugs were imported into the ghettos in the 60’s and 70’s via the CIA in an effort to target and disrupt Black families. Heck, NA Indians were fed a constant diet of cheap liquor to keep their males happy while the rest of the world moved on.

    So wid BFP. Imagine that… Kay mekkin’ sense too.

  23. J

    It seems to me that there are so many black fatherless babies because a lot of black men do not much like black children (especially they do not seem to like black boys)

    Take note that if the mother of a black man’s child is white he is much less likely to desert the mother and child.

    Is this a legacy of slavery?

    Yes it is.

    But if we though that self awareness was important then we would insist that our children study history at least until the end of secondary school.

    Instead we permit them to stop studying history at age 13.

  24. anon

    Jesse is just demonstrating his irrelevancy. His politics, based on “it’s somebody else’s fault” with a healthy dose of race baiting thrown in, is part of the problem, not the solution.

  25. Bimbro

    Hi again, BFP, am I being too, optimistic to hope for a reply to my perfectly, reasonable question?!!!

  26. BFP

    Firstly, we don’t hope to be a government some day. That is for others. We hope to inspire – or if necessary drag the current government kicking and screaming to implement ITAL.

    The solution to the ongoing mess and inadequate socialization of children by single mothers is…

    You breed ‘em. You feed ‘em.

    Can’t feed ‘em? Then we the society will look after the children in orphanages and in that way break the cycle that is self-perpetuating as we see more and more single mothers.

    We’ve stated that before… cut all welfare for unwed mothers. Stop the cycle of despair and poverty. Save the children from their uneducated 16 year old baby-mothers.

  27. Bimbro

    We’ve stated that before… cut all welfare for unwed mothers. Stop the cycle of despair and poverty. Save the children from their uneducated 16 year old baby-mothers.

    **************

    That’s an amazing, policy statement, BFP. Indeed, mind-shattering in its implications! Must think about that one some more!!

    However, I’m disappointed that u don’t appear interested in entering for mainstream politics. If so, then what was the purpose of the propose party-name, exercise??

  28. Bimbro

    We’ve stated that before… cut all welfare for unwed mothers. Stop the cycle of despair and poverty. Save the children from their uneducated 16 year old baby-mothers.

    ****************

    Interesting post, BFP. So, you think that you’d “stop the cycle of despair and poverty by cutting all welfare to unwed mothers”. Well, who knows, maybe you’re right and possibly, your readers agree with you.

  29. Sargeant

    • BFP: Can’t feed ‘em? Then we the society will look after the children in orphanages and in that way break the cycle that is self-perpetuating as we see more and more single mothers.
    We’ve stated that before… cut all welfare for unwed mothers. Stop the cycle of despair and poverty. Save the children from their uneducated 16 year old baby-mothers.
    Really BFP did you say that to be provocative or is this the result of some Neanderthal thinking? I can see it now the spectre of state run orphanages filled with thousands of children similar to Ceacescue’s Romania and today’s North Korea. How does that help those children, wouldn’t the state funds directed to the mothers not now be directed to help run the orphanages? Would those children be better off? We need to break the cycle that currently prevails but your proposed solution adds nothing to the debate.

    I’ll give you a pass on this as most of your arguments are well thought out but this is puerile

    *****************

    BFP says,

    Really? Perhaps you should consider that the degradation of the black family and families in general is so closely linked to the concept of supporting unwed young mothers financially and allowing them to raise their children without a husband and father. In the past most young unwed mothers gave up their children when they could not support the child. Thus the cycle of children having children was broken.

    Nothing has been so devastating to the family and emasculating of men as the concept that unwed motherhood is worthy of full financial support from society and that fathers are not necessary to properly raise a child.

  30. Hants

    BFP says “cut all welfare for unwed mothers”.

    I have a better idea. As soon as paternity can be established, it should be automatic that the father pays 20% of his income to the court administered collection department.
    There can be no excuse for a father not supporting his child.

    Men have the options of birth control. It is called seeondoms and mastery of urbation.

    Have to be careful with language these days.

    I guess I was lucky BFP did not have the opportunity to put me in an orphanage.
    Yes BFP I am a basstard son of a single mother now deceased.She always showed compassion for those less fortunate.

    I gone. I just “lost it” and may have misunderstood what you are trying to say so I gine for a walk and cool down.

    *********************

    BFP says,

    And I too am a bastard son. Perhaps my experience was different than yours. I don’t mean to upset or hurt Hants. As I say, perhaps my life was quite different than yours.

    In urban America, a 30 year old grandmother is not so unusual. That never used to be and it cannot be anything than destructive for society. Many young girls now choose single motherhood as a career choice because it is financially viable.

    And Hants… why on earth do you assume that a mother is more capable of raising a child than a father? You mirror the prejudice of the courts. Give 50% of the fathers care of the child and send the women out to work and send the father child support.

    Why not?

  31. Sargeant

    BFP

    There are many married women who are raising children alone too, why? Because their husbands have abandoned them. I know in these circumstances the husbands can be sued for child support but it may be difficult to locate them in urban America and if you manage to locate them and they are unemployed you’re still up the creek. Your point about the welfare state contributing to the situation has some validity but the majority of these women would love to have a job rather than depend on the state to feed their children.

    I don’t want to go into all the reasons for the current situation but if we want to have a solution to all these ills we must start with EDUCATION. Education has a way of leveling the playing fields, without an education you can build orphanages ‘till the cows come home and it will not solve the cycle.

  32. Bimbro

    Sargeant:

    don’t want to go into all the reasons for the current situation but if we want to have a solution to all these ills we must start with EDUCATION. Education has a way of leveling the playing fields, without an education you can build orphanages ‘till the cows come home and it will not solve the cycle.

    *****************

    Are you suggesting that these young people don’t receive an education or that they should be given a free, university education?

  33. Anonymous

    Actually Bimbro the young women (and young men) already benefit from a tuition-free university education.

  34. Bimbro

    OMG, thank you Anonymous, I did n’t know, so I wonder what further education they should be given to which Sargeant is alluding.

  35. Kay

    Have you ever watched the “Maury” show on american TV.
    This is not a problem just for black people.
    It is not anything to do with slavery.
    It is an epidemic started after women’s lib and the free love of the 60’s made some women think they could have it all. Wake up and smell the coffee world. There is no such thing as having it all, you have to make sacrifices to get what you want.
    e.g. all those women you think that they can have a career and leave off having children when they are in their forties and financially secure, and then have to resort to I.V.F. and surrogates.
    Raising children calls for sacrifice, if you don’t believe me, go ask the parent that you admire most whether it is your’s or someone else’s.

  36. Bimbro

    Even, David Cameron supports Obama’s castigation of black fathers, so he must be right?!!!!

    It seems that black fathers have a lot to answer for!! I make no comment about black, MOTHERS!!!!

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1428032.ece

  37. Kay

    Do you remember hearing a rhyme growing up that said:-
    Womens faults are many
    Men have only two,
    Everything they say and
    Everything they do.
    Get real.
    Both men and women are responsible.
    And like I keep saying this is not just a black problem, there has been a drop in morals and I still believe it goes back to the 60’s and 70’s.

  38. Bimbro

    Kay, I regret having to say that black and white men have been abrogating their duty where the raising of their children’s concerned, long before the 60s and 70s, I suspect, white men and women, also.

    I contend it’s a matter of education and standards. Any person of any real worth would accept responsibility for their children!!

  39. Kay

    Bimbro, for that matter I believe Socrates once said that he did not have much hope for the world based on how the younger generation in his day was behaving.
    So are we all just blowing everything out of proportion.
    I feel that women are as much at fault and colour has nothing to do with it.
    And don’t get me wrong I am not against women going out to work, but if they have children they have a responsibility to them.
    It amuses me that we claim equality but look at school rules, girls are allowed to wear a pair of earrings, boys are not. In my day girls could not wear them either. But don’t claim equality and then have different rules for different sexes.

  40. Hants

    Kay says “And don’t get me wrong I am not against women going out to work, but if they have children they have a responsibility to them.”

    “Responsibility” should be equally shared by the male “sperm donor” or father.

  41. Kay

    Agreed, but the women choose the “sperm donor”.
    They have a responsibility to find the father who will be the best father he can be, and help him achieve that.

  42. Bimbro

    Thanks, Kay. I think we’re all, more or less, in agreement on this one!!

  43. Licky Lickum

    I think it has to do with everyone moving away from Christianity/religion. Back in the day when most people went to church they were more ethical and family oriented and knew and embraced their responsibilities. Even if men or women ended up with a million children from 10 million different men or women for the most part the chidren still knew both parents.

    My grandfather from my mother side had over 20 children from different women and none of the children nor women ever had anything bad to say bout him cause he was there for all of them.

    As time passed and people moved away from Christianity/religion and lost their moral fabric then all this single parenting really increased. Everybody just wanted to sow their wild oats without having to look back. Women determined they only needed sperm donors and did not need men for nothing else. That is also why lesbianism is so rampant now but that is another topic.

    We need to go back to God if only to get some morals.

  44. Johnny Postle

    What they say, ” Hell has no fury like a woman scorn.” So can somebody tell me when a man is jealous and envious, obviously of President Obama’s successes, what is the saying for that. “Words spewed from the mouth of jealously toots alot of BS

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  46. youngster2012

    We as Black people cannot blame anyone but ourselves. This is serious! It’s a damn shame that our Black boys don’t have their fathers around. And we as Black men walking around with our heads up thinking they are men just because they have ten or twelve kids and don’t take are of them. We should be ashame of ourselves. A man takes care and provides for his children. A man teaches his kids how to respect and live in this world as decent law abiding citizens. It’s the Black man’s fault that our Black boys are in prison, girls are pregnant, single mothers living in poverty. Its the Black man’s fault!!

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