Tie that rascally 7 year old to the masthead and flog the tar out of her!
‘An doan forget to use a well-oiled whip… Aye Captain!
We haven’t seen a good flogging in weeks – days anyway.
You find the darndest stuff online. We have no idea where this comes from or what “Human Rights Committee” this is talking about, but the name “Louis Tull” is mentioned as heading the Barbados delegation to the “committee”…
21 March 2007 — The delegation of Barbados faced a flurry of questions from experts of the Human Rights Committee on its legal stance on the death penalty, corporal punishment, the criminalization of homosexuality and police brutality in the island nation, as it presented its third periodic report on progress in implementing the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
Experts critiqued everything from the scarcity of statistics on police brutality and prevention methods to the accepted practice of flogging children in public schools, as well as the lack of a national human rights commission. Several experts urged the delegation to ban the death penalty on humanitarian grounds. One expert noted a strong “founding fathers” approach on law of treaties in Barbados and the tendency to allow public opinion to dictate human rights policy, regardless of whether it was just.
Louis Tull, who headed the delegation, said Barbados had a long-standing and consistent tradition of resolute commitment to promote, protect and respect human rights and fundamental freedoms. Noting that some of the Committee members had said at Barbados’ oral hearing on 24 March 2005 that “Barbados has nothing to hide,” he urged the Committee not to adopt a “punitive approach” in its deliberations, nor to distort Barbados’ record by focusing solely on certain laws –- notably the death penalty law – which were prohibited by the Covenant but reflected the cultural and societal mores of the Barbadian people…
… continue reading this article online at The American Patriot (link here)
20 Comments
March 22, 2007 at 2:04 pm
It hasn’t worked in Canada, our murder rate is spiraling. Three murders in Toronto over the weekend. All they get is a slap on the wrist and let out to do it again
Offenders repeat 43% of the time
It is time for other nations to get their houses in order before telling others what to do. Had a recent case here where some teenagers beat another teenager to death one got 7 days in jail because he was under 17. What about the family of the poor boy that was beaten to death, do we not consider them and all the boy was doing was walking his girlfriend home. He had an Ipod that they wanted
Average time spent in jail for murder in Canada is 10 years and realeased back into the community, to do it all over again. They are finally people calling dor the tighten of the laws in this country and it looks like the Government will do something about it
I am not saying that in all cases the death penality is the answer, but in violent homicides it should be.
Also with DNA testing today you can be almost 100% sure who the culprit was
The bid countries like to dictate to the smaller ones as the think that we are backwards, but let me tell you Barbados as small as it is had a great many things to offer that the big ones don’t
March 22, 2007 at 2:52 pm
It never did me any harm, and as a matter of fact it taught me to listen and respect my elders. Ask Addie Ford about his floggings at Lodge School with me and several others. Again as in my first comment we should not be dictated too by others
March 22, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Do they actually still flog in Barbados though?
March 22, 2007 at 3:51 pm
That report is a reprint from the report posted at the United Nations site:
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2007/hrct688.doc.htm
March 22, 2007 at 3:57 pm
If my child does something that deserves a cut-a**, I will cut his a**. Let any human rights individual tell me not too. If I don’t, and he becomes, god forbid, a delinquent can I blame the human rights people because they did not let me cut his a**? No, but they will call me an ineffective parent.
March 22, 2007 at 7:57 pm
What is a “Human Rights Expert”?
March 22, 2007 at 8:24 pm
“the tendency to allow public opinion to dictate human rights policy, regardless of whether it was just………..”
So these people have put themselves as the arbiters of what is “just” and what is not. Who are they? Where do they come from, and what do we know about each of them and their own record? Perhaps someone should whisper to them that Barbados is a democracy, which used to mean that government acted on the will of the people, whilst protecting those with minority opinions. The word “just” is totally subjective, therefore everybody has a different idea as to what is “just”. As for public opinion in Barbados, if it really dictated what should happen over the death penalty, the gallows would be worn out by now. The increase in crime, delinquency and general disobedience of the law world-wide can almost exactly be correlated with the onset of “human rights” activism.
March 22, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Peltdown Man- Sadly you are living the past.
In today’s global village small nations like Barbados can, and are, dictated to by world bodies such as the United Nations Organisation, Amnesty International, and the like. We can ignore them at our peril, because if they gang up on a common cause, such as preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons, trade sanctions can be imposed which will strangle all but the largest nations.
This is not to compare flogging with nuclear proliferation, but look how British groups dare to call for the end of the death penalty here. It is none of their business, but because their bleeding hearts tell them it is inhumane, they feel entitled to tell us what to do. They could even boycott us as a tourist destination if they had a mind to.
No nation can today follow a policy of Isolation, and we have to walk a tightrope in the face of “public opinion.” We can drag our feet, that’s all.
March 22, 2007 at 9:48 pm
bystander
That is the problem, we give in to their wishes, even though they have no clue about Barbados. I say to hell with them and let us live the way we want. Sick and tired of these do gooders talking c**p all the time. If we listened to some of the things our parents told us the world would be a better palce. We have the same problem in Canada and it has lead to the downfall of our scoiety, kids running rampant and without control. Kids taking parents and teachers to court over trivial things. Example:
A child of 13 took his parents to court because he was not allowed out after 10 pm, he won and now parents have to let their children go out until whenever they want. As a result, the preverts are just waiting for them and when little Johnny and Jane is molested then the society is up in arms, but it is too late then.
I say stick with our principles and to hell with groups like Amnesty International etc. I certainly don’t want barbados going down the road that Canada has, for the sake of our kids, let us keep it the way it is
March 22, 2007 at 11:14 pm
*Sacasm begins here*
Yes Barbados must turn around and follow the ways of the country where the kids kill the parents…. Shoot down the school and where the parents & teachers become diciplined by the children…
Yes, that will make human rights experts very happy.
*Sarcasm ends here*
March 22, 2007 at 11:57 pm
YES we still cut a backside now and then in Barbados!
doesn’t take more than once or twice a year to reinforce some basic self-discipline and control in a young child, so that by age six, you have a child you can take places,
rather than a BRAT Problem Child you’re ashamed of!
Start early with discipline (not talking cut-ass,here, I said discipline)..early, less than a year old.
oh yes, less than a year old.
How so young?
The lil critters soon learn to manipulate and control YOU,
you big silly parental mushball of political correctness,you…and before you know it, you’re in HandBasketLand(heading South).
It’s like handling horses: gotta let them know who’s in control,here.
And it’s not you.
March 23, 2007 at 1:03 am
We like to think we know it all in Barbados, and we all like to believe that because our parents beat us and we turned our (reasonably) OK, that beating our children is important to them turning out right.
The occasional light spanking probably does no harm, but it is unanimously acknowledged by psychiatrists that physical punishment is not the best way to reinforce particular behaviour in children. I believe that to be true.
Where does one draw the line in terms of how much corporal punishment is too much? That is why they should not allow any corporal punishment at all. Parents who rely on corporal punishment to raise their children are poor parents and are inflicting incalculable damage on the psyche of their children.
March 23, 2007 at 11:58 am
Bajan Boy
Would you believe me if I told you that I never hit either one of my kids, left that to my wife. I have a temper and decided never to touch them. My kids have grown up now and have families of their own and are sucessful
But the bit about p
March 23, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Bajan Boy
Would you believe me if I told you that I never hit either one of my kids, left that to my wife. I have a temper and decided never to touch them. My kids have grown up now and have families of their own and are sucessful
But the bit about pschiatrists is bunk, that is why we in Canada are so screwed up with our kids, we listen too much to those so called know it alls
A few years ago they were saying don’t discipline the kids, now the new thing in Canada is a little discipline is necessary. My feeling is leave it to the parents, they are the ones that have to live every day with the kids. IT IS TIME FOR THE GOVERNMENTS TO STAY OUT OF PEOPLES HOMES.
It there is abuse by all means take the necessary steps to protect the child. But not go around telling the kids to call the authorities everytime they get a smack on the bum. See my post above at what has happened in Canada, don’t want the same thing in Barbados
March 23, 2007 at 1:23 pm
If I can’t smack you on the bum when you need a lil correction/enforcement..(for yer own good!)
WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE??
- Not under my roof! ..so find a bridge, muh boh!
March 23, 2007 at 4:58 pm
I think a few licks every now and again work. Since I also grew up in the USA I used to think I could pull-something past the parents every so often. Somehow someway I would forget one detail and I’d get licks. So the next time I’d try to be a bit more cautious and ofcourse somehow I’d get found out and licks again… If there even was—- a third time I’d be super cautious… If I got caught that time and licks again there was no fourth time… Forget it…. Since then I’ve grown up staying away from trouble. If I see trouble coming I go the other way…. Licks made me better off. I don’t have any police records never did drugs so I think I turned out alright.
March 23, 2007 at 6:41 pm
“The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons” Dostoyevsky
March 23, 2007 at 7:33 pm
This is a “goody” and shows us where all this is heading if we’re not careful – from an article whilst surfing in yesterday’s British papers. A baby polar bear was born in captivity at the Berlin Zoo in Germany, but rejected by its mother. The keepers decided to raise it themselves, and one of them even slept the first few nights in the cage with it. Well, the animal rights activists in Germany are saying that the animal is being deprived of its rights, as it should be raised as hunter and killer of its own food. So they want it killed. Yes, really – they want it killed because it has been deprived of its rights.
Don’t know about you, but on that argument, shouldn’t all zoo animals be killed as well, and what about dogs and cats? We keep them as pets, but they were not created that way. Kill ‘em all – that’s the activists’ way.
November 3, 2007 at 12:43 pm
To Spoil The Child ?
At age six I was sent to live at a British boarding school. It was the war years.
There was a listing of school rules on a board, and they were carefully explained to you, and you were warned that if you broke a school rule, you could earn you up to six strokes of the cane. (And I mean, CANE )
My first term, still age six, by the head master, I was given four strokes, once, and then six at another time, for repeating the same offence, climbing too high in certain trees. There were trees, however, you were allowed to climb to the top.
After my second afair with the cane, I paid very special attention to school rules, not wanting to have to place my two hands on the wall, drop my trousers, and hear the ‘dred’ whistle of that long cane tearing down on me again.
Yes, it hurt, and it certainly left ribbings on your backside. The cane was always much more potentialy corrective than long boring detentions or writing lines for hours on end, or being dis-allowed to a ‘once in a blue moon ‘ magician or cinema show.
But we had very kind teachers, in all, and I would never give up those memories, despite the bombs, and hunger, and the cold of winters at that school where I stayed even during holidays, mostly in its summer woods and rivers near by.
Far too many children are little spoiled brats these days. Now wonder so many, even from the very best families, grow up hop heads, interested in little but questionable music, or video games.
Perhaps the world has got so bad without the cane, that children are unsafe to venture outside the home any longer ?
November 3, 2007 at 3:52 pm
It is a mystery to me how a noisy minority of Rights Activists have shouldered their way into society, and now dictate to us on the basis of often phony or unproven theories of “correct upbringing”
How much more evidence does society need that without proper discipline, society at all levels deteriorates into near anarchy?
Physical chastisement, quickly administered and well remembered, is a trivial risk to damaging personality compared to the scourge of shame, scorn, confinement, deprivation of goodies, or other non-physical weapons, such as “Coventry” to which parents and others in authority must resort for discipline when a “hands-off” policy is the law.